Latest WE8 Screens and Info + Box Cover!

[BazHilder]

How much would those cost?

Yeah but how many extra would they sell if they were included? Not enough to make up the cost of the naming rights I wouldn't think.

[dannyboy20]

Just got this from Konamilk about todays Famitus:

There are some pix of new stadiums, new effects (fire works,smoke), new animation of supporters,new banners in stadium and Latvia team.

[dorval]

so...in the Famitsu magazine newest interview on we8 there'll be pictures of new stadiums,new supporters effects and animations,banner plus the latvia team?
that'd be great!!!can't wait!!

[jamez]

So there is a good chance that Holland and Germany wont have FIFpro licenses? If so i hope that Konami fix the problem of having unlicensed players in the Dutch team, that were licensed at club level. I'm talking about Davids, Seedorf, Stam and van Hooijdonk, whose club teams were licensed in PES3. Therefore 2 versions of these players would crop up in the master league (i saw a Seedorf playing for Milan and another one playing for Celta Vigo at the same time).

[Lami]

i hope those league logos on the box cover arent fake

[jag87]

I do hope that the netherlands have a FIFPro license as it was said before that they would have it.

[Lorenzinho]

i hope those league logos on the box cover arent fake

Dammit, i never thought of that!!!! What if they are??? That'll be so bad...

Dannyboy, or whoever posted the pic of it... D'you think it could be fake?

[Gary G]

It won't be fake, Konami have said that's the official cover, it would be illegal for them to put the logo's on the front cover if they didn't have permission

[Baz]

[Baz]

Does anyone know if there will be fully editable custom leagues on WE8 ? I want to have a league with my mates and cant be bothered recording the results myself ! Sensible Soccer had this option 10 years ago !! The other thing i think they should include is the option to change the sponsors when editing the Kits.

[Lorenzinho]

Thats an informative post... ;) :rolleyes:

EDIT: sorry Baz, thought you had just spammed, my apologies...

[Baz]

Dont worry about it Bonzo ... Just looking for more info on WE8 . I am looking forward to playing it but want more info.... I am an Evertonian and am looking for something to cheer me up at the moment !!!!

[jamez]

Does anyone know if there will be fully editable custom leagues on WE8 ? I want to have a league with my mates and cant be bothered recording the results myself ! Sensible Soccer had this option 10 years ago !! The other thing i think they should include is the option to change the sponsors when editing the Kits.

The bit about sensible soccer is a common complaint about PES/WE. How simple it would be to copy Sensi's custom league and cup options - its not rocket science.

[larsson]

It won't be fake, Konami have said that's the official cover, it would be illegal for them to put the logo's on the front cover if they didn't have permission

Konami have said that WE8 is not coming to the box this year, maybe WE8:International, if there's going to be an international version, next year. It's not very difficult to take a PS2 cover and put some Xbox logos on it, and I don't think it's illegal, eg the French gamesmag which provided the whole fake screens and infos wasn't sued by Konami or anyone.

[dannyboy20]

Basically this is how it is:

Konami have a license for the Eridivisie NV league only (as well as Serie A and La Liga). They are allowed to include the player names, kits and the like for the teams in that division.

But for players outside that division and the national squad, they are under the FIFpro license. Last year Holland were not included in that license but this year they are. Konami have to apply for this license well in advance, so more than likely they applied for it before Holland were inlcluded.

Hope that makes sense.

[larsson]

do you think I'm more or less right with my post above, people keep asking about this topic, and all I can say is what Konami said a couple of months ago, that PES is coming to the xbox, no info about WE8

[Ogopa Djz]

do you think I'm more or less right with my post above, people keep asking about this topic, and all I can say is what Konami said a couple of months ago, that PES is coming to the xbox, no info about WE8

Wait hear me out. Pes is the european release on X-box right? and w11-8 is the american(also jap) release.And knowing that the biggest xbox fans are americans (and i read it on a xbox site) the game called w11-8 was said to be coming the xbox.

Oh Larsson my fault i didn't read your post in the other topic. :D cheers

[Cristiano!]

No famitsu scans yet? :(

[larsson]

WE is the Japanese release. In Europe and the US you get PES. But in the US PES is called WE:International, and is the same like PES. It´s NOT the same game you get in Japan, it´s the same game you get in Europe. Hope that´s clear. I don´t think the Japanese WE will come to the xbox, as Konami said that only PES will come to the box this year and there´s no info about an xbox version so far, with 1 month left to the release, while we have a lot of informations about the PS2 version. So I don´t believe that you get the Japanese WE on the box. I can´t be sure though.

[dannyboy20]

I agree with you larsson. I think the site posted earlier with the XBOX WE8 cover is a fake. I think they're reviewing the PS2 version (which can be seen by clicking the PS2 link on the same site). I think they wrote the info about the PS2 version originally. And assumed PES4/WE8 was the same game on XBOX. So they just copied exactly the same review from the PS2 review they did.

Sorry if that doesn't make sense but thats what I think.

[Alberto Tomba]

Lock this thread :D

Anyway I still can't believe that Konami haven't been able to grab licenses. Are licenses owned exclusively only and not for everyone.I mean if a movie director wanted to have Pepsi being filmed drinken he couldn't because some other guy filmed Pepsi being drank in the same year? I hope I'm making sense here becasue my copy of Football Kingdom isn't .

[t1000v2.0]

Nah the pepsi thing doesnt work like that, and in any case, pepsi will pay the film people to have the pepsi label in the film, its known as product placement, and anyone can secure the right to have a certain product name in a film whatever year it is, no one signs up exclusively to that. The football licensing is different, and until not so long ago, Formula 1 had licensing probs. At one point, Psygnosis were the only game publisher to acquire the FIA licence to make an official F1 game, but they stopped that, and anyone can get hold of the license. Not entirely sure how the FIFA or FIFpro one works, and if its the case that EA have exclusive rights over the full Fifa license, then it means Konami have to find a way round that, like securing individual club, kit and player licences. Not 100% on how it works though, but I think its possibly something like that.

[BazHilder]

Yeah I think you're right, it's like with nhl, nfl, nba games etc they just have to obtain the licence for that organisation which is effectively what konami have done with the 3 leagues they've got cos they can't buy the whole FIFpro licence cos of ea.

[Lorenzinho]

So, just to clear up, the PS2 WE8 cover isn't fake? So we'll still get the 3 licensed leagues?(Does anybody know if its last years license or this years?)

Is it possible that by PES4, we could have the German, French and the EPL licensed?

Who knows... :rolleyes:

[t1000v2.0]

Bonzo, I hope it is the case that for PES4 they can secure a few more licences. But I dont really mind if any others aren't in as long as the get the EPL!!..if they do then it will make my year!

[jackass]

Its still early days, people

[winning fan]

When we can see new screens and info of WE8????????

[Foxhound]

wait for dannyboy to post new screenshots/ info

damn it!! konami, pls get a license for EPL!

[johnny_on]

wait for dannyboy to post new screenshots/ info

damn it!! konami, pls get a license for EPL!

If we all chip in with a pound each do you think we could buy it for them ? How many members ? :)

movie of the new skills please Konami :rolleyes:

[jackass]

In August there will be loads of screens

[larsson]

So, just to clear up, the PS2 WE8 cover isn't fake? So we'll still get the 3 licensed leagues?


Right.

[jag87]

In August there will be loads of screens

I hope not. I think if Konami want to sell the game, they should flood the internet with masses and masses of images in the 2nd last week of July which is in about 10 days time so that the public can see what to expect.

[georginho]

Does anyone remember when the roster list came out for WE7 ?
I'm sure it was before the game was released.
So hopefully the WE8 roster list could be out soon too.

[jamez]

Does anyone remember when the roster list came out for WE7 ?
I'm sure it was before the game was released.
So hopefully the WE8 roster list could be out soon too.

Im sure all this information was released before this point last year. We had videos and everything.

[jag87]

We had videos in the first weekend of June last year.

[huggybear]

soon enough there will be loadza screens for we8. Probz see pes4 screens bout l8 august/early sept. Hope for sooner tho!

[larsson]

Posted by ThomasGOAL on evo:

Confirmation for St. James Park and for The Santiago Bernabeu !!!!

[thebeast2020]

http://news.gameplay.co.uk/newsitem.php?itemid=1089380813

[jag87]

The screenshots used for the boxes are so PES3 lol. If anyone played the original WE7 then they'd remember that the title screen was from PES2...

[.DARK MAN.]

can any one give me
link for vidoe winning eleven 8

*dany boy:is it true the name you give it to us
is it true>>>

man why they wnats horts fan of hollanda?? do you think some day we will see the true name of hollanda if they change color>

for give me
i am bad writing in english

[GateC724]

will there be an english or some kind of european language (i.e. spanish) in we8

[ashmufc]

There will propably not be. But I wish there was.

[GateC724]

so is there sumthing u can can do or get do be able 2 see it in english

[jag87]

so is there sumthing u can can do or get do be able 2 see it in english

A Patch! These questions have all been answered - Please search beforehand.

[bostero]

Anybody knows if there is going to be something that translate the names of the players to english because i'm fed up of changing the names

(i don't think that there will be anything like it but i ask it anyway)

[Lorenzinho]

Its called a patch! Jag's JUST said it in the post before you. Search! Its at the very top of the screen at the right hand side, 3rd button/link from the right.

[Cristiano!]

And considering the first translation patches dont usually begin to surface for a couple of weeks, prepare for the customary period of hazily working through the japanese character menu system and making use of dodgy translation images which usually constitute in headaches and often finding ones self completely lost and smashing your head into the screen while you wait for the patchers to work out the new encryptions and change all the tricky text etc.

Theres no time like the release of a new Winning Eleven :) haha.

[Alberto Tomba]

Guess Konami's being careful. i would be to. they have ALOT of expectations being about the ONLY good game of futbol at all on a console.

[Raven9]

Guess Konami's being careful. i would be to. they have ALOT of expectations being about the ONLY good game of futbol at all on a console.
I totally agree... ;)

[jamez]

Posted by ThomasGOAL on evo:

Confirmation for St. James Park and for The Santiago Bernabeu !!!!

About time too. Hope this is 100% true. Anyone know where this info came from?

[dannyboy20]

It's from the latest Famitsu mag supposedly. Someone Thomas knows asked on a Japanese forum. It's still not 100%, but I think it's probably true. Still waiting for the scans to prove it :(

[.DARK MAN.]

THANK YOU DANYBOY 20
FOT THE NEWS ABOUT WINNING ELEVEN 8

I ALWAYS WAIT YOUR COMMENT
AND TAKE IT TO MY FRIEND IN ARABIC WEB SITE>>>>
THANK YOU
AND ALL OF YOU IN pesinsight

[luszpynskyj]

I have been away for a week in Portugal and I have obviously missed a lot. Thanks Dannyboy for the great screens ;)

[jag87]

As posted by Thomas Goal on Evo-Web!

http://www.web-konami.com/products/km/30/pdf/008-011.pdf

You need adobe acrobat. It has a few introduction image sequences!

[Kluiverte]

Tks a lot Jag, i'm going to study the doc!

[dannyboy20]

A bit more news from the Japanese Famitsu magazine, many thanks to "roteiro" our Japanese friend @ evo-web.

New stadium effects
More animation and realistic appearance with crowd flares and celebrations.
Supporters carry banners with the face of their favourite player on.
When the home team scores, the crowd go wild and start flares and smoke just like in real Seria A games.

[dannyboy20]

Cut the faces out of the PDF file:

http://www.danny18.pwp.blueyonder.co. uk/faces.JPG

[Kluiverte]

Is Giuly the third one? And who's the second one after Buffon? is deco the one who's beside Ronaldinho?

[dannyboy20]

This is what we know so far:

Face 1: Buffon, ?, Guily, Inzaghi, Cafu, Campbell, Ronaldinho, Lampard?

Face 2: Totti, Raul, Beckham, Saviola?, Nedved, Vieri, Desailly, ?, Veron, Pires

[Badgerman]

me and dannyboy shall marry and have lots of childrun.

i wuv you.

[Kluiverte]

This is what we know so far:

Face 1: Buffon, ?, Guily, Inzaghi, Cafu, Campbell, Ronaldinho, Lampard?

Face 2: Totti, Raul, Beckham, Saviola?, Nedved, Vieri, Desailly, ?, Veron, Pires

Yes, Saviola is the one who's beside Beckam

[Harry-Kewell]

Face 2: Totti, Raul, Beckham, Saviola?, Nedved, Vieri, Desailly, ?, Veron, Pires

The guy on the right of Beckham looks like Conceicao, and the player that’s next to Desailly is Ayala I think.

[dannyboy20]

lol Badgerman :D

Phrase posted this on evo-web, looks accurate to me:

Top Row,
Buffon ,Cassano, Giuly, Inzaghi, Dida, Campbell, Ronaldinho, Cannavaro.

Bottom Row,
Totti, Raul, Beckham, Saviola, Nedved, Vieri, Desailly, Desailly, Ayala, Veron, Pires.

[dannyboy20]

New Famitsu scans!!! Thanks to leos @ evo-web. ( gonna cut individual pics out soon)

http://www.cf-network.com/cfan/IMG/jpg/Scan0010.jpg

http://www.cf-network.com/cfan/IMG/jpg/Scan0011.jpg

[dannyboy20]

http://www.danny18.pwp.blueyonder.co. uk/1.jpg

http://www.danny18.pwp.blueyonder.co. uk/2.jpg

http://www.danny18.pwp.blueyonder.co. uk/3.jpg

http://www.danny18.pwp.blueyonder.co. uk/4.jpg

http://www.danny18.pwp.blueyonder.co. uk/5.jpg

[dannyboy20]

http://www.danny18.pwp.blueyonder.co. uk/7.jpg

http://www.danny18.pwp.blueyonder.co. uk/6.jpg

http://www.danny18.pwp.blueyonder.co. uk/8.jpg

http://www.danny18.pwp.blueyonder.co. uk/9.jpg

[joelcool]

does anyone know if u can change the weather in WE 8 like fog, sunny, cloudy, stormy.

[dannyboy20]

New stadiums from the above screens:

westfalenstadion (Dortmund) new:

http://www.danny18.pwp.blueyonder.co. uk/6.jpg
http://www.stadionwelt.de/Stadionwelt-Stadien-Arenen/Stadionguides/1-Bundesliga/Dortmund/umbau200.jpghttp://www.stadionwelt.de/Stadionwelt-Stadien-Arenen/Stadionneubau/Deutschland/Dortmund/Inside_200.jpg

As well as the new ones we already knew about:

St James Park - Newcastle
Parc des Princes - PSG
Stade Velodrome - Marseille
Rasunda Stadion - Sweden
Ennio Tardini - Parma (from WE7:I)
De Kuip - Feyenoord

[jag87]

Good work Dannyboy. But its cheesing me off that Konami are restricted the videos, well not restricting but, well, withholding.

[.DARK MAN.]

did you see the player of spain try to touching the ball

[dannyboy20]

Here's a pic i missed out, i actually thought it was a real picture but its in game! Showing the new smoke/flare effects

http://www.danny18.pwp.blueyonder.co. uk/10.jpg

[H_A_N_S_E_N]

Let's just hope that there will be no damn stutter with all these new flares and stuff. Really hope so, because it would ruin some of the game like it did last time....... What do you guys think?? Cheers

[Alberto Tomba]

i know...VIDEOS! for pete's sake!
I will say this though the stadiums and sky look less arcadey then in previous WE series. which is great. Plus the players models look about that much closer to the opening fmv graphics.

[t1000v2.0]

I have to say its looking incredible, those effects look class....but come on..we need vids! GRRRRRRRRRRR!!!! we'll all have to go march down to konami HQ and demand they release some vids...I mean only a few weeks till release!! come on konami!!!!!

[lateef]

I think you should just shut up and stop worrying.

[Alberto Tomba]

actually i'm more pipin' mad that my swap magic disc doesn't play football kingdom for me or that my football kingdom disc is bad(haven't been successful getting any help either)
But konami has been slow. i think i saw some of the gamelpay while watching that tourney they had to see who wins an advance copy but it was too quick to say it didn't look just like WE7.

[t1000v2.0]

LOL at lateef, yeah dude....my life is gonna end big time if i dont see any vids....what to do....i am so damn worried!!! <sigh>

[Lorenzinho]

Those newest screens are great dannyboy! Anybody else notice Figo and others wearing the Nike Total 90 |||??

EDIT:

Plus at the bottom of the first scan, it only says about the Dutch Eredivisie, nothing else. No Serie A, La Liga. I think that game cover is fake!

[dannyboy20]

It's not fake bonzo. The leagues are already on the official Japanese Sony PS site listed under the licenses of the game. Don't forget, Famitsu are playing with an older version of the game, not the final retail copy.

Plus I doubt Konami will send the WE8 boxes to 1000's of stores in Japan with fake logo's on.

[Lorenzinho]

Ok. I'm just too paranoid. I just dont want to get hyped up and it just be a big let down.

[dannyboy20]

I'm sure we'll all be amazed with the game when it's released :D

[jag87]

When have Konami ever let us down? They always bring results.

[Gary G]

http://www.danny18.pwp.blueyonder.co. uk/4.jpg
http://img45.exs.cx/img45/6929/pes4.gif

:p

St James' looks class there

http://www.danny18.pwp.blueyonder.co. uk/10.jpg

That pic looks so realistic

[BazHilder]

This all looks so awesome, I just can't wait. pes4 isn't for 3 months though.

[dannyboy20]

It looks better quality in the pics I posted a couple pages back Gary :)

http://www.danny18.pwp.blueyonder.co. uk/8.jpg

Bottom one is St James right?

[GE]

WOW !!! just look at the Total 90 III, i hope they have Nike Vapors too, i cant wait

[Gary G]

It certainly is

http://www.danny18.pwp.blueyonder.co. uk/4.jpg
http://www.ukfootballstadiums.co.uk/english/newcastle/photo4.jpg

The roof looks quality

BTW what is the ball they are using below?

http://www.danny18.pwp.blueyonder.co. uk/8.jpg

[dannyboy20]

I'm most impressed with the new smoke and flares effects! How real does this look!

http://www.danny18.pwp.blueyonder.co. uk/10.jpg

And another show of De Kuip:

http://www.danny18.pwp.blueyonder.co. uk/7.jpghttp://home.tiscali.nl/~treffers2/images/kuip.jpg

[jag87]

St James Park looks Tops! Hitman will be happy!

[dannyboy20]

The ball is the Adidas Pelias by the way Garry

[Gary G]

Ok cheers, I think the roteiro looks great in the game,it's good to have different balls available rather than the plain white one

[jag87]

Hope Konami sort the ball out in the game and get a good balance. In WE7, the ball was heavy whilst in WE7i, it varies which is good I suppose. Oh well, lets wait and see!

[ashmufc]

WOW !!! just look at the Total 90 III, i hope they have Nike Vapors too, i cant wait

They look sick man. I agree.

[Punzz]

Does anyone know if the August 5th release date in Asia is for PS2 only?

[Lami]

Does anyone know if the August 5th release date in Asia is for PS2 only?
yea it is PS2 only mate.

[larsson]

Don´t get to excited about the Nikes, there isn´t any info about Nike in the license text, and those shoes were even on the old screenshots so theoretically it should have been in the license text very early. They´re probably fake Nikes like in We6FE

[BazHilder]

So now we know there's at least 2 different balls in the game. Surely the total 90's can't be for real cos it's sponsored by adidas?

[luszpynskyj]

The nike total 90s look like they arnt real but are in the same shape as them, like the total 90 II in PES3, they didnt have nike written on them etc. but they basically looked like them

[ashmufc]

But they do have lisences for quite a few teams and a lot of them are sponsored by nike, ie Barca, Juve and Valencia.

[larsson]

What have licenses for teams to do with licenses for shoes ?
Luszpynskyj you´re right, that´s exactly how they looked in WE6FE.
They look ok on the screens, but compared to the nikes which we know from the patches they´re crap

[ashmufc]

http://img32.exs.cx/img32/2402/we8.jpg

I know its old but I found it on Games Master (UK MAG)

[Cristiano!]

Basically, Fifa sucks and doesnt have a chance but we'll make it sound like there is a rivalry to boost our reader levels.

[ashmufc]

FIFA is going to be shit as usual.

[ezio]

FIFA is going to be shit as usual.

Yep pretty much. They are not even close to one another

[ashmufc]

FIFA 99 was the best FIFA

[jackass]

Yeh FIFA dosent stand a lick at the chance

[Alberto Tomba]

I really liked fifa 2004 when i first got it, but then *thumb goes down* downhill.

[.DARK MAN.]

did you see the player of spain try to touching the ball??? WILL WE SEE THE PLAYER DO IT LIKE MARADONA

DANNYBOY20:
CAN YOU GIVME PIC FOR DIRTY CLOTHER FOR PLAYER IN W8

[dannyboy20]

Dark Man, look at some of the England vs Spain screens. You can see in those.

[jag87]

FIFA 99 was the best FIFA

Yeah it was - it was given 9/10 which is the highest rating for a FIFA game ever and then it didnt even have sponsors on the shirt even when it had the licenses.

[NickSCFC]

http://img26.exs.cx/img26/9818/we8_psp.jpg

[GFK]

Eh?! That graphics?? If thats true I am going to buy a PSP :D :cool:

[NickSCFC]

PSP graphics are basically the same as PS2 graphics in the coversions.

[ashmufc]

Were did you get it from. I dont think its real.

[larsson]

It is real, Konami confirmed WE8 on PSP

[ashmufc]

Were is the conformation. Fuck that is good! But I think htey just took a PS2 screen and put it in. WE8 on PSP will look like that but not as good as that screenie.

[dannyboy20]

All thats been confirmed is the WE series is to be released on the PSP. No screens of the game yet so that is fake :)

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2004/07/12/103,1089627356,28497,0,0.html

^^^ 59 titles confirmed for it, translating that into English it says "Winning Eleven Series" is one of them

[larsson]

yeah of course the screen is fake, it's one of the first WE8 screens with the white ball and the strange scoreboard, but the news is real :)

[Lami]

http://img26.exs.cx/img26/9818/we8_psp.jpg
no shit way! psp in no way wud have such grafix!

[Lorenzinho]

BTW, is the PSP coming out this Christmas coming? If so, im getting it for X-Mas!

[Ogopa Djz]

no shit way! psp in no way wud have such grafix!

Actually its possible. At E3 expo Ken kutaragi claimed the psp to be far stronger than ps1 and a bit weaker than ps2.

[larsson]

Actually its possible. At E3 expo Ken kutaragi claimed the psp to be far stronger than ps1 and a bit weaker than ps2.

correct.

[t1000v2.0]

Yeah the PSP is gonna be shit hot, i hear good things bout it, and graphically its got a good engine, so will be near ps2 graphics if the developers can make the most of it, the bog standard games probably wont look that great though.

[jamez]

So the only things left unknown is the club teams and ML structure, and gameplay vids.

Everything is looking very impressive and promising though. Every few days a new feature is reported, and the stadium list is ever increasing, so this game looks like it will be the biggest advance in the WE/PES series so far.

[Lorenzinho]

I know Jamez. I just convinced a mate who likes FIFA to at least rent pro ev four. He was brickin it when i told him about the licenses as he does not want his beloved FIFA to go downhill.

P.S. It will...(go downhill) {<---rhymes...)

EDIT:
P.S.S. Not that it can go any further downhill!!!

[jamez]

I know Jamez. I just convinced a mate who likes FIFA to at least rent pro ev four. He was brickin it when i told him about the licenses as he does not want his beloved FIFA to go downhill.

P.S. It will...(go downhill) {<---rhymes...)

EDIT:
P.S.S. Not that it can go any further downhill!!!

FIFA has been at sea-level for the last few years. ;)

Most die-hard FIFA fans will never admit that another football game is better. Its just in their nature to be stubborn and go on about licenses and real leagues, even though deep down in their heart they know FIFA is a big turd.

Good luck with the conversion attempt anyway :)

[Eric88]

I'm looking forward to the day Konami announces "There will be online mode in PES4 (PC)" Facts about PES4 look really amazing but without online mode it's, how to say it, for nothing. Of course, playing against AI, which is in PES series at high level, is good, but it can never be compared to playing against human...

[jamez]

Still no official mention of the Bernabeu for WE8 anyone? This would top things off nicely. Glad to see the Westerfalen Stadium - Germany was long overdue another stadium in the game. Is it likely that the Arena auf Schalke will make an appearance, seeing as it hosted the Champions league final?

Also the new screens look good. I couldn't believe how real that shot of the Danish fans setting off the flare looked. Thanks to Dannyboy for digging up all this information.

[jumbo]

Babelfish translation of the latest official WE8 page update:


In master league large reform!
Concept "of growth" was introduced, "the team which lives to make", with

Sale approached on August 5th, ' world soccer winning eleven 8 ' (below ' WE8 '). This time when becomes the 3rd report the players will repeat year and the master league which adopts the system which keeps growing probably will keep conveying focusing on.

* Breaking down マンネリズム with the growth and atrophy of the player!

' The WE ' series, the prayer opposing, rivals victory or defeat, the game whose competition characteristic is high. Because of that as for the players who are registered there is no thing which grows older, as for some top and bottom as for ability of those which are done being always fixed, that did not change even with the master league with the condition. Continuing to win, if it saves the point, how call the large amount player the ど, there is no thing which cannot be bought, if the prayer which gets used to it was designed in such a way that it can gather the strongest member in several years. Inside one time master league becoming strongest, the stripe uninformed, being able to meet the prayer, if it does not sell the possession player in the other team, the other club team which COM operates the tooth had stopped standing in club of the prayer. Because the players do not grow older, if the data is not turned off, the strongest state can be maintained permanently. This while it is delightful thing but, had made that motivation in order to continue to play long is maintained difficult. But ' WE8 ' with the player grows older and keeps retiring. And the player who retires becomes younger several years, later appears in the transfer market as a new member. While being young, acquiring them, unless you forge with practice and the tournament, there is also a possibility of not accomplishing the growth of according to ideal. In that way, the players who were forged are not gathered when it has not become weak and the て is not good. So, the can the strongest team can be made simply, with it does not limit and, also it is difficult to maintain. ' WE8 ' the master league becomes something where weariness does not come easily.

* Which you bring close to the growth curved line of ideal?


The prayer acquires, can verify growth curved line in the growth seat picture concerning the player who has belonged to the my team. If you look at the growth seat, you know that player extends power to some time. Then in order that you bring close to the ideal growth curved line which is shown, before that player reaches to peak, the prayer means to forge with practice and the tournament. When several the material is shown, when stipulated time, you participate in the tournament first, ability rises. Whether or not it has reached to this stipulated time, if you look at the result picture after the playing, it is understood. If the appraisal point has appeared, it is OK. If and the appraisal point is high, furthermore parameter rises. In addition, this time usual フリートレーニング, in the master league has become the treatment, condition adjustment during season. And is possible the fact that it keeps increasing the ability of the player individually with the practice as in challenge training to season off. It probably reaches the point where you know with the actual soccer, feeling of the supervision which produces the young man to the tournament, somewhat? The rearing player of ティタネス and the like which is has stopped being to the previous production due to the fact that concept of growth is introduced into the master league. In addition either the editing player does not become with same war potential, in the transfer market has become the specification which acquires the place where it appears as a new member. There are no times when other club acquires the editing player. In addition, whether or not other club acquires the クラシックス player, it is not ON/OFF, it changes difficulty of the game (* many extent it is difficult) with. The player grows older, ' WE8 ' with, either the クラシックス player is not special existence.

* The transfer market you question, it sows associating, Let's enjoy the team making


It means being plugged, getting near to actual soccer management that concept of growth is introduced. Making the star where other club raises gold open, you buy and also the っ て which it sows calling and (eventually being to retire, you pull directly and stopping cannot put, if), to be possible, to make management fund by the fact that it sells the player who was not brought up well to peak (it can have buying, is but). Forging the young man of the same nationality thoroughly, it is possible to the main force of the team. The strengthening plan such as that all prayers is free. The number of club teams which this time were recorded exceeds 130, the players who do not finish to be settled in club of the master league in the master league mean to overflow suddenly in the transfer market as a player of not yet post. Making the unique team combining the players who from among those are chosen, ' WE8 ' pleasantly it is straw raincoat in one. Because the team which raises can do also permanence retention as a "my best eleven", it probably means that also motivation increases. Also the search function which it is essential to such team making evolved. COM looks at the acquisition possible player, from budget of the holdings and repairs the player whom personality is clear in every place tile such as "quick search" and ace striker is listed up, "talent search" and so on, in the user it has become kind specification. In addition ' WE8 ' with, start system of the master league became 3. As for one in the default team which so far sort, ミナンダ and Castro is on the register begins the "master league member", the cover stuffing in sort of match mode in that team originally is begun with the member who is, the "match mode member", third beginning with the default member, before the season commencing the player can be replaced to the maximum of 3 people, "original team compilation". Attention is original team compilation. True っ white "the FC cosmopolitan" of the flag and the uniform in the base, editing from what freely from team name, it can participate to the master league in the original team. Below overthrowing big club, you probably can taste the feeling on the 克.

* The master league itself is edited?

If the item is purchased with WE-SHOP, it is story, but ' WE8 ' with it can also edit the master league itself. League name can be changed freely besides the fact that, and the D2 D1 all participation register team (as for D2 8 team ×1 leagues, as for D1 16 team ×4 leagues) changing, it can compile league constitution. One by one, in the option file, you think and there is a league of sort. That ' WE8 ' is the master league. The fan of the team of somewhere if, in that team it is begun from present state and, it can also like to challenge to the world in your own sufficient team make the original team. This freedom with, the big framework which guarantees that. We would like to try playing quickly, but ' WE8 ' after completing we will have decided to convey, concerning the information of capture of the master league.



* The publication picture is something which is in the midst of developing, the actual commodity and part there are times when it differs.
In addition being to be times when also various specifications it is modified please acknowledge beforehand.

Master League:

1x D2 and 4x D1 which is the same as in WE7.

Names of Div 1 and Div 2 can be edited. Same with teams that go into certain Divs.

That means, it'll be possible to create 4 real leagues.

:D

[Cristiano!]

Sounds a bit crap really doesnt it. Players retire and then come back as youngsters? I guess they are trying the Champ Man regen type thing.

[dorval]

the regeneration thing it's cool...i kinda like it...it think it will be much more interesting to play the master league with that regeneration thingy...when they come back in youngsters will it be like champ man, i mean with different names?how will we know who they are?

[t1000v2.0]

What?? they come back as youngsters, thats a bit weird...just defeats the purpose of having retirement doesnt it? once they are gone they are gone surely? hmmm strange feature methinks.

[jamez]

I was hoping they would get rid of the league structure in WE7. That 4xDIV1 and 1xDIV2 thing was rubbish. And how does this work if there is now 136 teams?

[The Jodis]

It can't, simple as that!

If they have the licence for Italy, Spain and Dutch leagues, there's 3 taken up out of the 4.

Thats 58 teams, leaving 80 teams to occupy the last top divison league and the D2 league. I doubt that the league feds would allow the licences if Konami were going to put teams from different legues in the same as theirs.

40 teams in each league! :eek: I doubt it!

Surely been a mistake in information there.

[jag87]

Sounds a bit crap really doesnt it. Players retire and then come back as youngsters? I guess they are trying the Champ Man regen type thing.

I think thats pretty Good. Anyone we can play with Raul Ronaldo, Ruud Van Nistelrooy, Totti, Henry Etc. But with WE8, you can play with the team and build for the future. I think Konami have changed the ML In the best way possible!

[Lorenzinho]

True. It means that you cant just go buying all of the best players who are maybe 29, 30 etc. You have to look ahead and buy players at maybe 18+.

[GE]

Is this the ball in the game...???

http://81.17.67.131/products/pds005001407_zoom.jpg

[The Jodis]

Looks like it by Zico holding the ball on the cover, as well as the screen shots that have been realesed.

[jamez]

But the roteiro is in the game as well right?

[Gary G]

Yeah it is, you can see it in the screen below

http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/47/31/ME0000473162_2.jpg

[pazza]

Does anyone know whether this time, the Transfer Mode option will allow Created players to be entered into club teams ? This is the one thing I really want to see or else it's a real pain to update squads when they get a player not in the game...

[jag87]

Konami have updated the wesbite for WE8. Theres a pop up displaying the latest news:

http://www.konamityo.com/newtopics.html - can anyone translate?

[BazHilder]

Names of Div 1 and Div 2 can be edited. Same with teams that go into certain Divs.

That means, it'll be possible to create 4 real leagues.



That's cool, do we know if the team in div.2 will be the same for every league like before? i hope not cos it'd be much better if you can edit them around to be able to have the lesser teams from the same area in the 2nd div.

[Fredrik]

So only 72 of the 138 teams will take part in ML, depending on which you choose? I was hoping it'd be as big as possible... They could've made 1xD3 (8 teams), 4xD2 (16 teams each), 4xD1 (16 teams each). Why don't they make the most of the new amount of teams!?

[larsson]

Crappy idea.
And how can you say that it´s good that a player retires and comes back as a youngster ? It´s bullshit. Where´s the realism in that ? Either create a decent database of young players, so that old retired players don´t appear again in the game, or leave the shit out :mad:

[jamez]

So only 72 of the 138 teams will take part in ML, depending on which you choose? I was hoping it'd be as big as possible... They could've made 1xD3 (8 teams), 4xD2 (16 teams each), 4xD1 (16 teams each). Why don't they make the most of the new amount of teams!?

Agree, whats the point of all these new teams otherwise? Konami really need to start using some common sense and logic.

Crappy idea.
And how can you say that it´s good that a player retires and comes back as a youngster ? It´s bullshit. Where´s the realism in that ? Either create a decent database of young players, so that old retired players don´t appear again in the game, or leave the shit out .

Again, i agree. This is a stupid way of doing things. The database you mentioned is the only realistic way of doing this.

[jumbo]

A database like that? This is not champ manager. It's too late now, I guess you people are just gonna have to live with it. :cool: :p

[larsson]

Yeah, and because it´s not CM they should have leave such shit out
anyway, you´re right, it´s to late now ;)

[dannyboy20]

I wonder if there's an option to stop players retiring and regenerating? I'm pretty sure there will be.

[Lami]

What?? they come back as youngsters, thats a bit weird...just defeats the purpose of having retirement doesnt it? once they are gone they are gone surely? hmmm strange feature methinks.
thats called "Resurrection" lol.

[Cainer]

thing is this sort of thing worked alright in Sensible World of Soccer (nearly failed my A levels cos of that beaut). where after a few years you'd have players like 'Paul Klinsmann' and 'Michael Cantona' who were just youngsters with names made up from the database, using the power of the amiga!!. I presume this is what'll happen in pes4.

It'll be just the same as having random names for the youngsters and more realistic than having players like zidane or whoever playing til they're 40.

[BazHilder]

I hope they aren't gonna re-use the names, that would add a real sense of amateurism to the game. I guess they will have the option to turn off player aging though and that'd stop the youngsters.

Cainer - it's more likely that zidane will play till he's 40 than it is that he and rooney will have a baby together and that their child will become a footballer called wayne zidane.

[larsson]

oh, but you maybe didn´t notice that SWOS has a database which is a "little bit" bigger than WE database...
No realism there to be honest, but I hope danny is right and we can turn this option off.

EDIT: Was a reply to Cainer´s post.

it's more likely that zidane will play till he's 40 than it is that he and rooney will have a baby together and that their child will become a footballer called wayne zidane.

lol :D

[Lami]

Konami have updated the wesbite for WE8. Theres a pop up displaying the latest news:

http://www.konamityo.com/newtopics.html - can anyone translate?
its the same as the last translation made by someone here. nuthn new

[Cristiano!]

Hate people who possess the complete inability to read and re-hash old news confusing everyone in the process.

Read the thread before you start making comments about new news etc. etc.!!

[jumbo]

I guess they will have the option to turn off player aging though and that'd stop the youngsters.

No they won't because that's the main thing of this new ML. They wouldn't be going thru all the trouble with building a ML new system so that people can turn it off.

[ashmufc]

http://www.wearepes.com/~kaiwai/WE8/Visages2.jpg

[jag87]

Hey Ash Bro, didnt someone already post this?

[dorval]

not with the accurate names jag87...i guess..at least i don't recall

[larsson]

I have posted this screenshot in "The Games" forum, however it wasn´t, like dorval said, with names on it.

[jag87]

Ok Thanx Dorval!

[t1000v2.0]

Have konami lost the plot on this? are they seriously bigging up this regenration thing as one of their star features!!!??? anyone feel this is laughable to say the least??

[dorval]

i kinda like the idea of the players regeneration but i wouldn't say it's a star feature...a star feature is probably the licenses for the dutch, spanish and italian teams, the new passing system etc...
they wouldn't release the game in which one of the star features would be the regeneration thingy...imagine a person who's going to buy the game and the back of it says as the main feature:"Regeneration system in master league", the normal reaction of a person who doesn't know the game would be like:"WTF?"

[gerberoo]

i kinda like the idea of the players regeneration but i wouldn't say it's a star feature...a star feature is probably the licenses for the dutch, spanish and italian teams, the new passing system etc...
they wouldn't release the game in which one of the star features would be the regeneration thingy...imagine a person who's going to buy the game and the back of it says as the main feature:"Regeneration system in master league", the normal reaction of a person who doesn't know the game would be like:"WTF?"

that wasnt the point dorval he meant the ml was the star feature and that it being a part of something they are promoting as accurate makes it rediculous. It ruins any kind of simulation having such an unrealistic feature. you should perfect something before throwing it in the game not just give it your best shot and having it half assed. lets face it having the players regenerate as youngsters is an easy way out rather then having to create a system of generating new youngsters

[t1000v2.0]

Yeah, I still dont see how this makes the game any better, if a player reaches a certain age where it is better to retire, then thats it! no come backs. but then you see him back (same appearence? younger looking?) with a messed up name but plays the same...probably sharper as he's younger...a main feature or not, i would still say WTF! I sure hope it can be turned off......sod the regeneration, i rather they spent more time on working out their online capabilities, or license stuff...what a waste of time and effort on something so ridiculous!

[Ogopa Djz]

Yeah, I still dont see how this makes the game any better, if a player reaches a certain age where it is better to retire, then thats it! no come backs. but then you see him back (same appearence? younger looking?) with a messed up name but plays the same...probably sharper as he's younger...a main feature or not, i would still say WTF! I sure hope it can be turned off......sod the regeneration, i rather they spent more time on working out their online capabilities, or license stuff...what a waste of time and effort on something so ridiculous!

Yeah really If they had online included i wouldn't have my doubts about the regen system. But hey it could be the best that happened to w11 ;)

[jumbo]

you peep still don't know how the thing works and you're already writing it off... bad people, bad. >:*)

[larsson]

yeah, it´s a discussion forum, that´s the sense of it

[Lami]

im sure its gona be interesting tho. every series konami had somethin unique in and was all the time impressing. this whole idea about improving players and growth and i duno wat is a good strategy. theyre tryin to make us spend much more time on the ML. even if the regeneration wasnt as good, id still say for everything there is a begining. so im sure latter series would be much improved. as usual ;)

[t1000v2.0]

Yeah takin nothin away from konami as they innovate. Compared to EA the only innovation thye seem to come up with every year is a catchy gimmick system, which everyone knows is pants. So credit to Konami for tryin different things. However I'm not convinced about this regeneration thing...ok so it may turn out to be different to how we imagine it, and it may evenbe ok, but i still have my doubts, we'll have to wait and see.

[dorval]

let's hope it is similar to championship manager...

[99bstatton]

I've been away for a while and i don't really undertand this new 'regeneration' thing.
Could someone please explain to me how it is going to work
Will the new young players have the same names as the retired players?
If they did it would get confusing and wouldn't be a good idea.

[99bstatton]

Sorry about the stupid writing, i didn't realise that my brother had messes it up.

[RonaldoFenomeno]

Hey Dannyboy20 i have a question for ya...

Yo said before there will be banners of the favorite players for the clubs???
Is this Veron?????

http://www.danny18.pwp.blueyonder.co. uk/3.jpg

[Alberto Tomba]

This "regeneration" thing is very very Japanese like. Have you seen any other of their game ideas. Their really qorky. I mean who else would be into a cel shaded surgeon game where you operate on a cut up body? Trying new things is a part of being different. But it's a football game so...I don't like the idea.

[jamez]

Konami will probably put an option in to turn the regeneration option off. In PES3 you could turn off the buy retired players option, and you could adjust the way the transfer market worked. So Konami have given us options in the past so that we can tailor the master league to how we want to play it.

If there is such an option, then i will turn it off if the regen players are just retired players names like Shearer and Figo. For regen to be realistic konami need to include a small database of names and nationalities for new players whose appearances could be created at random by the CPU using the player edit mode. If this is the case then i will look forward to the regeneration of new players in the ML.

[Lorenzinho]

Hey Dannyboy20 i have a question for ya...

Yo said before there will be banners of the favorite players for the clubs???
Is this Veron?????

http://www.danny18.pwp.blueyonder.co. uk/3.jpg

To be honest, it looks a bit like Esteban Cambiasso.

A wee bit!

[jamez]

They still look like the same nonsensical banners as always to me. Celery! Celery!

[Sycamore]

is the master league modus now 2 player?or any new 2 player modes?i think konami should make a modus like master league for 2 players, where u get ur club and can buy new player.

[BazHilder]

To be honest, it looks a bit like Esteban Cambiasso.

A wee bit!

I thought it was Rio Ferdinand actually!

[99bstatton]

I can't get WE8 so I’ll have to wait for PES4 and I was wondering whether PES4 might have more licences than WE8, such as hopefully some Premiership licensed teams.
Do you lot reckon that PES4 will have different features or more licenses?

(Sorry if this question has already been asked somewhere else)

[larsson]

no, EPL won´t be licensed in PES4 for sure.

[99bstatton]

Do you know if there could be any other leagues with a few licences such as the german or french?

[Lorenzinho]

no, EPL won´t be licensed in PES4 for sure.

Hey, larsson, you told me that there was a possibility that it could happen?

Im confused... :confused:

[larsson]

I doubt there will be, but I don´t know. All I know is that there won´t be a licensed EPL.

EDIT: Bonzo show me the post where I did it.

[99bstatton]

But last year, didn't WE7 have less licences on it than PES3?

[larsson]

yes, for 2 teams...

[99bstatton]

So there is a possibility that PES4 could have some more licenses on it...

[Lorenzinho]

Bonzo, I hope it is the case that for PES4 they can secure a few more licences. But I dont really mind if any others aren't in as long as the get the EPL!!..if they do then it will make my year!
Larsson, i apologise. It wasnt you. sorry

Firstly, it wasnt even answered by you! LOL

Secondly, it was t1000v2.0 that answered and said he HOPED that that would be the case

My apologies!

[larsson]

So there is a possibility that PES4 could have some more licenses on it...

Yes, there is a possibility. But I wouldn´t expect a whole new licensed league.

[99bstatton]

Alright, I just hope that if there are a few more teams to get licences, that they are good teams from somewhere around europe, not teams near the bottom of the table somewhere!

[jamez]

On the licensing issue, i just read the list of Dutch teams on this site:

http://www.totalvideogames.com/pages/articles/index.php?article_id=5994

I've checked it out and this list is correct for the 2004-05 season, as Den Bosch and de Grafschaap were promoted last year. Although this list is not 100% certified, it is at least encouraging that we are not going to get all the teams from the previous season like with WE7/PES3. :)

[dannyboy20]

But there's a rumour that it's last years rosters jamez. I posted the list of those teams when it was first announced in Famitsu magazine a couple of weeks ago.

As you can see in the licensing part of konami's site, they have a license for 2003/2004 for one of the other leagues.

[Cristiano!]

Ya so Hasselbaink will still be at Chelsea and shit like that.

[Azzaboy]

Yeah but how long would it take Konami to iinsert new kits and put in new names and stuff?

[dannyboy20]

It's not a case of Konami inserting new kits and new transfers though. It's to do with the law. After they have applied for a license from FIFPro or whoever. They can't change the rosters after they have been approved. They have to do this well in advance too.

[mrtn]

Rosenborg!!!???
Will they ever include in the pes-series!??
I've been waiting since the club-teams first appeared!!!
As someone said, I'd rather want top-teams across europe, than low placed big-league teams!!!
Roooosenbooorg!!!

[Eirik555]

Good point there:) I've also waited long for Rosenborg... Why do they place west Ham, Perugia, Brescia, and others, but not the best team in Scandinavia? Rosenborg has participated in the Champions League every year, but not last year. If that doesn't diserve a place in PES4 then they don't know what there talking about.

[mrtn]

thanks mate!
it's good to hear that someone agree!!!
but there's hope for us now, as many more club-teams will appear in pes4! :)
and yes, they definetly deserve to join the best game ever!!!

If my dream come true, I hope the konami-people have noticed Norway's best player, Ørjan Berg, and give's him the skills he deserve!!!

RBK 4-ever!!!

[Eirik555]

If Konami are a bit clever, then they will put them in.. It will increase the intrest from Scandinavia. Perhaps, Brøndby and fc København from denmark, djurgården from sweden, and Rosenborg from Norway.. Mrtn: Is it a Norwegian PES site..? (I'm from Norway, 1000 kilometer north of Trondheim)

[adams9802]

I re ckon the big teams in England will be lisenced like Italy last year...I don't belive previous stamements about EA buy league lisences..that would be an insane amount of money that even EA doesn' have..

[Fredrik]

No Djurgården, please. They were good last season, but now I'd be surprised if they finished top 5. Malmö and Hammarby are better choices.

[dorval]

i think that instead of scandinavian teams konami should add south american ones!!much nicer...

[jamez]

South American football is corrupt, and they are all a bunch of cheaters. I would rather see some Scandinavian teams. How about Rosenborg, Valarenga, FC Copenhagen, Brondby, AIK Stockholm and IFK Gothenburg?

[dorval]

but those teams don't have good players..look at boca!!---carlos tevez,clemente rodriguez,burdisso,schiavi...r iver--cavenaghi and there's this new one who's very good but i can't recall his name..i'll tell u later---santos---robinho,diego,elano---sao paulo---luis fabiano between others...i don't care if their football is corrupt or if they are cheaters...i just want to play football and they can do it quite well!!!!much better than those scandinavian guys!!!no offense..it's just an opinion..

[larsson]

South American football is corrupt, and they are all a bunch of cheaters. I would rather see some Scandinavian teams. How about Rosenborg, Valarenga, FC Copenhagen, Brondby, AIK Stockholm and IFK Gothenburg?

agree

[mrtn]

South American football is corrupt, and they are all a bunch of cheaters. I would rather see some Scandinavian teams. How about Rosenborg, Valarenga, FC Copenhagen, Brondby, AIK Stockholm and IFK Gothenburg?

I totally agree! thanks!!

Dorval says scandinavian teams don't have good players...hmm...have you ever watched a rosenborg-game? don't think soo...

I can't wait till royal league(top 4 teams from norway, sweden and denmark) starts!!

[jamez]

But there's a rumour that it's last years rosters jamez. I posted the list of those teams when it was first announced in Famitsu magazine a couple of weeks ago.

As you can see in the licensing part of konami's site, they have a license for 2003/2004 for one of the other leagues.

I understand what you are saying about the licenses and applying well in advance, but the screenshots show the Dutch teams in their 2004-05 kits:

http://www.danny18.pwp.blueyonder.co. uk/we810.jpg

Look at the Feyenoord shirt and you can see the sponsor is Fortis, which is their sponsor for the coming season. The other team in the tunnel (the yellow shirt with the diagonal blue stripe) is RKC Waalwijk, and the sponsor on their shirt is also different to last seasons which was VHS or something. Also, the PSV shirt looks different, not like last seasons one.

Is it possible that Konami could have applied for the 2004-05 season license well in advance? Sorry if im making a big deal of this but this whole licensing issue is confusing me. :confused:

[dorval]

ah! another point in favour are the kits....south american kits are more nicer!!lololol

[larsson]

indeed, that argument is a big lol :D
a question: have you actually ever watched a match between 2 scandinavian teams ?

[dorval]

I totally agree! thanks!!

Dorval says scandinavian teams don't have good players...hmm...have you ever watched a rosenborg-game? don't think soo...

I can't wait till royal league(top 4 teams from norway, sweden and denmark) starts!!

hmm...rosenborg was eliminated by team that i support in the uefa cup....which is Benfica...and i must say, with all the respect, that rosenborg didn't play that well...i mean, they can win lots of trophies in Norway but it's very easy up there with the team they have....while boca juniors,santos,river,vasco da gama,penarol,sao paulo,palmeiras,cruzeiro are top teams...even though their football is corrupt :eek:

[RonaldoFenomeno]

I think the license from season 2003/2004 will be in WE8, because the name of the Ere Divisie NL was in the season 2003/2004 named as -->HOLLAND CASINO....

and every year the name changes of the Dutch league, so they don't have the new license for the new season ;)

[larsson]

hmm...rosenborg was eliminated by team that i support in the uefa cup....which is Benfica...and i must say, with all the respect, that rosenborg didn't play that well...i mean, they can win lots of trophies in Norway but it's very easy up there with the team they have....while boca juniors,santos,river,vasco da gama,penarol,sao paulo,palmeiras,cruzeiro are top teams...even though their football is corrupt :eek:

So you have watched one or two games, right ? And rate the whole scandinavian club football after 2 games ? Rosenborg maybe played weak in that game, although I must say that also Benfica isn´t that bad so it´s not a shame to lose against them, but you should know that they (Rosenborg)reached CL quarter finals twice in the last few years, eliminating teams like Milan or Porto. Teams from Norway, Sweden or Denmark regularly reach quarterfinals in the UEFA cup, so their football can´t be that bad, can it ? There are weaker teams than Rosenborg or Brondby in the game, eg Fenerbahce, Spartak Moscow etc. And I wouldn´t say Penarol, Santos or Palmeiras are international top teams, they´re just good in South America.

[mrtn]

go nuno gomes..hehe..we don't like him were I come from!

anyway, you said it's easy to win in norway, well well...
but, that's because rosenborg is the definitive #1!! it doesn't mean that the other clubs play poor...

I still mean, at least Rosenborg, should appear in pes4!!!

yeah...

[dorval]

good one RonaldoFenomeno...lolol now there's no hope...hopefully from season 2003/2004 to 2004/2005 they won't change the name of the dutch league lol----very unlikely

larsson...i guess that question was directed to me,"a question: have you actually ever watched a match between 2 scandinavian teams ?", am i right? lol even if i'm not...let's just say that no...i've never watched a match between 2 scandinavian teams..have you?
and have you ever watched a game between 2 south american teams?lol
i think the game should have teams from all around the world!!problem solved :D
each region of the world, south america, scandinavian, south europe,east europe,UK etc has is own style of play so i guess there's no point in arguing which teams should or shouldn't be in the game...it's a matter of "taste"....i like south american football...you like scandinavian...hey it's just opinions...konami should put them all!!

[mrtn]

So you have watched one or two games, right ? And rate the whole scandinavian club football after 2 games ? Rosenborg maybe played weak in that game, although I must say that also Benfica isn´t that bad so it´s not a shame to lose against them, but you should know that they (Rosenborg)reached CL quarter finals twice in the last few years, eliminating teams like Milan or Porto. Teams from Norway, Sweden or Denmark regularly reach quarterfinals in the UEFA cup, so their football can´t be that bad, can it ? There are weaker teams than Rosenborg or Brondby in the game, eg Fenerbahce, Spartak Moscow etc. And I wouldn´t say Penarol, Santos or Palmeiras are international top teams, they´re just good in South America.

once again, I agree!!!

Remember, rosenborg qualified for chapions league 7 years in a row! it proves something!! unfortunately, in the qualifier last year, they met deportivo(which came to the semi-final the same year), and lost 1-0, after 0-0 in trondheim...

[larsson]

I have watched many South American matches, currently the Copa America, the Copa Libertadores before. And I watched enough matches of Scandinavian teams, however I´m not a fan of Scandinavian football, I´m rating this situation objectively. I´d just prefer European teams instead of South American. Like you said, it´s a matter of taste, but hey, it´s ok to discuss about it normally, I don´t see any arguing here :cool:

[RonaldoFenomeno]

dorval it changes every year.....

so the license will not be from 2004/2005 ;)

i live in Holland i know how it goes here

[Pepe Montoto]

but those teams don't have good players..look at boca!!---carlos tevez,clemente rodriguez,burdisso,schiavi...r iver--cavenaghi and there's this new one who's very good but i can't recall his name..i'll tell u later---santos---robinho,diego,elano---sao paulo---luis fabiano between others...i don't care if their football is corrupt or if they are cheaters...i just want to play football and they can do it quite well!!!!much better than those scandinavian guys!!!no offense..it's just an opinion..

Hey Dorval.
Could you please remind me of how many world cups has any scandinavian national team ever won? What about their clubs at UEFA level?
Do you also think south american teams have always cheated? I mean in the 8 (eight) world cups they've won so far and in all those many intercontinental club team titles?
;)

[larsson]

No one talks about national teams.

[jamez]

I think the license from season 2003/2004 will be in WE8, because the name of the Ere Divisie NL was in the season 2003/2004 named as -->HOLLAND CASINO....

and every year the name changes of the Dutch league, so they don't have the new license for the new season ;)

Actually ive just checked this out. Ere Divisie is the name of the Dutch 1st division, like the Premiership in England or Serie A in Italy. That bit doesn't change. Holland Casinos is the league sponsor for 04/05, just like Barclaycard sponsor the Premiership. So the reason the name of the Dutch league seems to change so often is because of different sponsorship deals.

[jamez]

Do you also think south american teams have always cheated? I mean in the 8 (eight) world cups they've won so far and in all those many intercontinental club team titles?
;)

Yes!

[Pepe Montoto]

Yes!
Lol

[xbox2005]

Amazon.co.uk are reporting a 22nd October release date for PES4 on the Xbox. This would see it go head to head with FIFA Football 2005. Exciting!!

[larsson]

So Maradona´s hand goal wasn´t cheating ? :p
Nevermind, it doesn´t matter, that´s not the point here ;)

[Ogopa Djz]

So Maradona´s hand goal wasn´t cheating ? :p
Nevermind, it doesn´t matter, that´s not the point here ;)

Of course not. How many times do you people have to be told God intervened(sp) okay. It wasn't a deliberate hand ball. jeez next you start saying maradona ended his football career by doing drugs. Blasphemy ;)

EDIT:my fault. :D

[xbox2005]

I this forum not supposed to be for discussing the upcoming PES4/WE8? Not some argument about the Huns getting knocked out by Argentina in Mexico '86.

[larsson]

doh, sorry, I forgot :p

EDIT: This was for Ogopa-Djz

xbox, just shut up, understood ?
Enough of the offtopic now

[xbox2005]

nein.

[Alberto Tomba]

Is it me? but where are the new screens or gameplay movies?

:confused:

[mrtn]

It's u... I'm me...

[larsson]

I doubt there will be gameplay movies available. And there are no new screens, because it´s forbidden in Japan to scan pics from gamemags and upload them. Well it was always forbidden and no one gave a fuck about it. I don´t know why the Japanese gamers now come with "we can´t scan it´s forbidden" :confused:
A friend of me is in Japan right now, he´s looking for some info and screens, but the only things he got was the already known facts from the latest Famitsu magazine. I guess we have to wait till the new one comes out so he can scan some pics and translate the text. The only new info is that the 7 under the WE8 article in the latest Famitsu was not the rating for this game, many people were scared about that because they thought it´s a 7/10 rating for WE8, but it was only some unimportant info.

[larsson]

Another screens, however very bad quality, seems like the mag was photographed with a digicam and not scanned.
http://www.wearepes.com/~kaiwai/WE8/BadScan1.jpg
http://www.wearepes.com/~kaiwai/WE8/BadScan2.jpg
http://www.wearepes.com/~kaiwai/WE8/BadScan3.jpg

You see real kits of Juve, Lazio, Chievo, Lecce (??), Brescia (??), Siena (??), Real, Deportivo, Valencia and Barca on it.

[Alberto Tomba]

Wow at least that's something There's been nothing but all this club and licensing talk. At least you brought it back on topic. I don't think they're going to show any movies because I think too many people would judge it right away and say it looks no differant then a patched game. I'm buying it and my friends grandma is buying it but I can't help wondering if it'll be drastically differant then we7:I. I'll notice the differences though and when i get it expect a full blown expo on it (with video and everything)

[fatsooo25]

one of the kits on the second scan looks like newcastle. maybe its juve or udinesse though but it looks like newcastle to me.

[jag87]

Well theres the proof for the licenses! - 3 Weeks to go and no vids :(

[fatsooo25]

yeh anoying init, they should be trying to really publicise the game, if it improves on anything from the fist game then it will be the greatest football game ever, because pes 3 was when that came out.

[99bstatton]

At least now we can see visual proof of the spanish and italian league licences, even if the pictures are of terrible quality!

[dannyboy20]

Flip Flap move: http://www.wearepes.com/~kaiwai/WE8/GaucheDroite.jpg

Also some info from the scans (thanks to leos @ evo)

* jump trap - in previous games you had to shoot, pass, or clear the ball with a header when you jumped for a high ball, but on WE8 you can trap the ball with your chest when jumping.

soft heel pass - heel pass using the sole of your foot. the thingy zidane always does. (whats this anyone kn0w??)

more polished one on one situations

[dorval]

go nuno gomes..hehe..we don't like him were I come from!

anyway, you said it's easy to win in norway, well well...
but, that's because rosenborg is the definitive #1!! it doesn't mean that the other clubs play poor...

I still mean, at least Rosenborg, should appear in pes4!!!

yeah...

yeah...i must say nuno gomes attitude wasn't the best in that game...but i still like him..he's a great player..but no doubt he was a bit stupid for diving!!!we could've lost the game because of him since he was sent off!!!
and i agree with you...rosenborg is also very good in uefa competitions!they should appear in pes4...
hmm btw what about red star???why aren't they in the game??and lokomotiv moscow??bah..if we were to name all the clubs that should and shouldn't be in the game...it would take ages!!! :cool:

[dorval]

hmm btw...i've just seen the new bad quality screenshots...and in the second one(if i'm not mistaken) there's Chievo Verona...and the kit is from last year!!almost for sure...the blue sleeves with the red thingy...check this out:
http://www.colours-of-football.com/ita/italy10.html

[larsson]

yepp, last season kit

[dorval]

bah....guess that barça,real madrid,valencia etc etc will have last season kits also :(
better than nothing..konami is improving that's the most important thing!

[Lorenzinho]

Oh well, you never know, they could have next seasons licenses for PES4 you just never know. But i'm not really bothered about it being last years, at least its official and looks good! I wont be patching anything!

[dorval]

hmm i guess it's very unlikely to have next season's licenses for PES4....but yeah at least they're official that's very nice!:D

[dannyboy20]

More news (thanks to leos):

The annoying thing in PES3 when you press circle in near you goal and the player clears it automatically has now gone. Circle will pass the ball where you want it to go, Square will clear it.

Better quality pic of Real licensed:

http://www.danny18.pwp.blueyonder.co. uk/real.jpg

[Lorenzinho]

More news (thanks to leos):

The annoying thing in PES3 when you press circle in near you goal and the player clears it automatically has now gone. Circle will pass the ball where you want it to go, Square will clear it.

Better quality pic of Real licensed:

http://www.danny18.pwp.blueyonder.co. uk/real.jpg

Very good news! The kit looks pristine! :cool:
That thing when clearing annoyed the hell out of me as he could have hoofed it up the park but instead, he puts it into Row Z!

I also hope that they get rid of them two annoying goalie bugs:

1: You shake and jitter for a wee while and then concede a goal!

2: Your goalkeeper is in possesion of the ball, you diligently press :x: several times to throw the ball, to find that your keeper does not obey orders and punts it up the park!so much for build up play!

[jamez]

If all these kits are from last year then this is a serious disappointment and commercial suicide from Konami. For the first time FIFA could be a serious option for me (if there is a big improvement in gameplay that is) because this is just beyond a joke.

[Alberto Tomba]

If all these kits are from last year then this is a serious disappointment and commercial suicide from Konami. For the first time FIFA could be a serious option for me (if there is a big improvement in gameplay that is) because this is just beyond a joke.
Kits and licensing matter that much huh? I just make my own team and put myself and my mates in it.
:)

[Harry-Kewell]

If all these kits are from last year then this is a serious disappointment and commercial suicide from Konami.

PES4 is still probably in production, right? So there’s some hope. I wouldn’t get too worried, not at least until the dreaded news is for definite and confirmed.