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Teekay
06-08-2004, 18:52
Bored to talk about Premiership teams? Are you a Juve fan?
Here you can talk about news, matches, rumours, transfers or whatever related to The Bianconeri.

Season's transfers:

In:
Emerson (Roma)
Zebina (Roma)
Kapo (Auxerre)
Imbrahimovic(Ajax)
Mutu (Free)

Out:
Maresca (Fiorentina)
DiVaio (Valencia)
Iuliano (Mallorca)
Tudor (Siena) Loan Deal
Miccoli (fiorentina) Loan Deal
Conte (Retired)

Team:

Goalkeepers
1 Gianluigi Buffon
12 Antonio Chimenti
22 Landry Bonnefoi

Defenders
2 Ciro Ferrara
4 Paolo Montero
5 Igor Tudor
7 Gianluca Pessotto
15 Alessandro Birindelli
21 Lilian Thuram
23 Olivier Kapo
27 Jonathan Zebina
28 Fabio Cannavaro
31 Domenico Criscito
34 Andrea Masiello

Midfielders
3 Alessio Tacchinardi
8 Emerson Ferreira
11 Pavel Nedved
16 Mauro Camoranesi
18 Stephen Appiah
19 Gianluca Zambrotta
20 Manuele Blasi
24 Ruben Olivera
36 Paolo De Ceglie

Forwards
9 Zlatan Ibrahimovic
10 Alessandro Del Piero
17 David Trezeguet
25 Marcelo Zalayeta
30 Adrian Mutu

Juventus Squad:



Coaching Staff:
Head Coach: Fabio Capello
Assistant coach: G. Corradini
3rd Coach: I. Galbiati
Goalkeeping coach: F. Tancredi
Fitness coach: M. Neri
Fitness coach: A. Scanavino

Founded: 1 November, 1887 by students of Ligio D'Azeglio

Stadium: Delle Alpi, built for 1990 World Cup
Seating capacity 71012
Press Seats 200 seats 2nd level, 54 seats 3rd level
Field 105m x 68m
Address Strada di Altessano, Torino


Trophies

Scudetto
1905 1925/26 1930/31 1931/32 1932/33
1933/34 1934/35 1949/50 1951/52 1957/58
1959/60 1960/61 1966/67 1971/72 1972/73
1974/75 1976/77 1977/78 1980/81 1981/82
1983/84 1985/86 1994/95 1996/97 1997/98
2001/02

UEFA Cup
1976-77 1989-90 1992-93

Italian Cup
1937/38 - 1941/42 - 1958/59 - 1959/60 - 1964/65 - 1978/79 - 1982/83 - 1989/90 - 1994/95

Champions League
1984/85 - 1995/96

Cup Winner's Cup
1983/84

Intercontinental Cup
1985 - 1996

Italian League Cup
1995 1997

European Supercup
1985 1997

Sponsors: Nike, Skysport (Championship sponsor), Tamoil (Cup sponsor)
http://www.uefa.com/ml/ImagesContent/Competition/Stadiums/600X400/50139.jpg
Home Ground!! Delle Alpihttp://img62.exs.cx/img62/6901/juventusteam5cf.jpg

Teekay
06-08-2004, 19:39
Next Match: 10th August
Chamions League Preliminaries
Juventus vs. Djurgården (Stockholm, Sweden)

Papa Lazarou
06-08-2004, 20:36
WOO JUVE!

Teekay
06-08-2004, 20:39
erm.. 1987 r u sure bout that??

Sorry, corrected that one. It's 1887 of course. Plz corect any mistakes i have made.
:o

LiamK
06-08-2004, 21:18
Looks like the loan deal for Mutu has fallen through.

Lucky you.

Rasmus
07-08-2004, 16:25
Unfortunately Juve won't get Mutu. Check it on Skysports... But we still have Del piero! :D

Teekay
07-08-2004, 20:37
And Nedved, who's hopely gonna help us win the treble!!! :D

Sycamore
07-08-2004, 20:42
them bought KAPO , nice. for how much?

Teekay
07-08-2004, 20:55
Just found it on Google. It was a free Transfer!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D A Great buy!!!

Rasmus
08-08-2004, 16:28
No doubt about that! Just sad for Auxerre that they have lost their starplayer! By the way, what du you think of the doping-case??? It's so insane, that it continues! If they can't find enough evidences they should just close the case..?

gollan
08-08-2004, 18:34
At last!!! Someone who's a Juve fan and not lazy like me!!! thanks tomiK14.
Aren't you worried that the defense is a bit shakey? I mean Lillian is not getting younger and it showed last season. so is Montero. I hope Leggrotaglie is going to be good. and offcourse that the Prince will not get injured (knock on wood).
Forza Juve!

razor
08-08-2004, 19:02
i thought you should have signe dperrotta. i think he is a great player and would commpletted your midfield making it very balanced. i dont understand why you let davids go last season. he was playing weell for yuou. he was a key player the season before when you reached the champions league final.

Teekay
08-08-2004, 19:17
At last!!! Someone who's a Juve fan and not lazy like me!!! thanks tomiK14.
Aren't you worried that the defense is a bit shakey? I mean Lillian is not getting younger and it showed last season. so is Montero. I hope Leggrotaglie is going to be good. and offcourse that the Prince will not get injured (knock on wood).
Forza Juve!

Cheers mate. Legrottaglie wasn't too good last year. But he seemed confident in an interview. Its true that most of their defenders are old like Thuram, Pessotto, Montero and Ferrara. Though i heard Montero was good in Copa America. But they bought Zebina who I think can play on defense or Midfield. Left back is good, either Zambrotta or Birindelli. And yes they should have bought Perrotta who has been really good in Chievo. But the midfield- Nedved, Emerson/Appiah, Brighi/Kapo, Camoranesi is going to be good I promise!

Juve has a training match Friday against Cesena (Serie B) 20.30
I'll post the results here if I have time. (Cause school starts in Finland, blaah. Good to see friends though)

Teekay
08-08-2004, 19:36
So Juve has a new logo which one do you prefer?

Old one:

http://www.shop.viator.com/graphicslib/2840/SITours/juventus_logo.jpg

New logo:



http://www.juventus.com/fe_images/logo_juve.jpg

I think the new is ok, but i really cannot see the reason for this!

Teekay
09-08-2004, 08:36
No doubt about that! Just sad for Auxerre that they have lost their starplayer! By the way, what du you think of the doping-case??? It's so insane, that it continues! If they can't find enough evidences they should just close the case..?

It's all hell! I remember when I was younger and I was already a Juve supporter and Davids got caught of using doping substabces. I was so Angry! The whole thing bout Juve doctors giving doping to players in the 90's is fucked up! They shold kill that Giraudo guy for this! It's shame that anything like this happens to our Great Club. Also Zizou has given his comments for this case, but none of the former or current players are being charged (Thank God!!!).

Teekay
09-08-2004, 08:53
Here's a list of legendary Bianconeri (Black and white) players:
Roberto Baggio (1991-1995) Matces/Goals 200/115
Roberto Bettega (1970-1983) 326/129
Zbigniew Boniek (1982-1985) 81/13
Liam Brady (1975-1985) 239/34
John Charles (1958-1962) 150/93
Michel Platini (1982-1987) 146/68
Paolo Rossi (1973-1975 and 1981-1985) 138/44
Gaetano Scirea (1975-1988) 552/32
Marco Tardelli (1975-1985) 376/51
Dino Zoff (1972 - 1983) 476/0

If I forgot something post it here!
Don't worry I'll add zizou and Ale when they retire!

Teekay
09-08-2004, 16:03
The Official Club homepage: Juventus.com
Buy Juve merchandise: juveshop.com
Other links coming soon...

(Just updated player list)

Rangers_FC
09-08-2004, 16:29
ryt mate can i here your views on inter go to the link at the bottem
as you sound as if you know alot about italian football like me

Rangers_FC
09-08-2004, 16:42
http://www.inter.it/aas/img/38664.jpg

http://www.inter.it/aas/img/38665.jpg

http://www.inter.it/aas/img/38669.jpg

http://www.inter.it/aas/img/38671.jpg

BIRRA MORETTI: INTER V JUVE PHOTOS

Juventus beat Inter 1-0 in a fast and furious opening Birra Moretti Trophy encounter at the San Nicola which saw four bookings and a sending-off.

David Trezeguet scored the winning goal in 9th minute with a powerful close-range header from Zambrotta's left-wing cross. The Nerazzurri's best chance fell to Marco Materazzi, whose looping far-post header from Veron's right-wing free kick finished on the roof of the Juve goal.

Bianconeri midfielder Mauro Camoranesi was sent off for a second bookable offence on the half hour for a handball in the Inter penalty box.

unfortunatly inter lost

Rangers_FC
09-08-2004, 16:51
Official line ups

INTER: Toldo, J. Zanetti , Cordoba, Materazzi, Pasquale, Veron, Cambiasso, Emre, van der Meyde, Adriano, Cruz
Coach: Roberto Mancini

Juventus: Buffon, Legrottaglie, Montero, Pessotto, Zebina, Camoranesi, Tacchinardi, Emerson, Zambrotta, Del Piero, Trezeguet
Coach: Fabio Capello

Referee: Paparesta

Looks like we both played good teams

Rangers_FC
09-08-2004, 17:54
Mancini

"Whether you win or lose, in this phase of the season when you play these friendly matches the important thing is to keep working so you improve," said Roberto Mancini after the Nerazzurri's two 45-minute Birra Moretti Trophy matches against Juventus and Palermo.

"Sometimes it's better that things don't go too well at this time of the year because you risk thinking you are too good," added the Inter coach. "I saw some good things and some less good things on the pitch today. We will take note of the positive aspects and work to improve the things we did less well.

Let's also take into consideration the fact that it's difficult for the players get the right match tempo in these 45-minute clashes."

Mind you the were only 45 min matchs

Teekay
09-08-2004, 19:43
Well that suits Trezeguet, he's no fitness wonder.
Here's the teams for next years Serie A:
Ancona
Bologna
Brescia
Chievo
Empoli
Inter
Juventus
Lazio
Lecce
Milan
Modena
Parma
Perugia
Reggina
Roma
Sampdoria
Siena
Udinese

Lost seraphim
09-08-2004, 20:14

Teekay
09-08-2004, 20:22
This is from Sports illustrated webpage:

"Juventus, at Sweden's Djurgarden on Tuesday, will be missing reigning European soccer player of the year Pavel Nedved. The Czech midfielder sustained a knee injury at Euro 2004.

That's not all. Another playmaker, Mauro Camoranesi, and defender Mark Iuliano are injured, newly signed French defender Jonathan Zebina is suspended, and Ghanian midfielder Stephen Appiah is at the Olympics.

Juve won the competition in 1996 and has appeared in three finals since.

"We are behind Djurgarden in the preparation of these matches because the start of the Italian season is still far away and our form is questionable," manager Fabio Capello said. "However, I'm 100 percent confident."

Djurgarden is currently eighth in the Swedish standings."

http://cl.cnn.com/ctxtlink/jsp/si-story.jsp?domId=contextualLink s&time=1092079144921&category=sisoccer&url=http://robots.cnnsi.com/2004/soccer/08/09/champions.ap/index.html&desccharcnt=80&site=cnn_sisoccer_dyn_ctxt&origin=si

Teekay
10-08-2004, 08:51
So the games today! What do you think will happen???

gollan
10-08-2004, 09:22
I hope for a 2-0 solid. Miccoli is in great shape, I think Cappelo will let him play. We all know that the key player for Juve is Alex, but in the last 2 years he's been on and off injuries. Hopefully our lack of midfield will not cost us tonight, but I've heard Cappelo saying that the players are in top form right now.

Teekay
10-08-2004, 09:43
It would be important they don't get away goals. 3-0 or something like that would ne fine. I don't think Juve's gonna have a tough time since Djurgården (means Zoo in English) haven't played very well in the Swedeish league. Hope David and Alex could score a few. Maybe Alex could play offensive midfield and Miccoli and David as strikers.

gollan
10-08-2004, 09:53
yeah Fabrizio is in his best form yet. maybe this year will be his breakthrough year. Forze Juve!

Rangers_FC
10-08-2004, 14:06
What do you think the Juve v Djurgarden score will be
Can you also tell me what you think the inter v basle score will be on the inter page
Did you see inter and juve want viera although i think he would have more chance of coming to inter as i think juve could not afford him

Jonny2J
10-08-2004, 14:09
What do you think the Juve v Djurgarden score will be
Can you also tell me what you think the inter v basle score will be on the inter page
Did you see inter and juve want viera although i think he would have more chance of coming to inter as i think juve could not afford himJuve has jus got Emerson and Inter have got Davids so they dont really need Paddy

Rangers_FC
10-08-2004, 14:12
predict the inter score on the inter page its on my sig

Rangers_FC
10-08-2004, 14:23
from http://www.inter.it/en/speciali/maglienike2004/index.html

http://www.inter.it/it/speciali/maglienike2004/immagini/1a.jpg
HOME SHIRT
Black and blue striped V-neck shirt produced using Cool Motion technology for better perspiration control.
Numbers in white.
Black shorts with blue inserts.


http://www.inter.it/it/speciali/maglienike2004/immagini/2a.jpg
AWAY SHIRT
White V-necked shirt with royal blue mesh inserts. Numbers in black.
White shorts with royal blue inserts.


http://www.inter.it/it/speciali/maglienike2004/immagini/cl.jpg
IN EUROPE
This shirt with obsidian blue and black hoops is an homage to the 1997/98 Uefa Cup triumph.
Obsidian blue shorts.


http://www.inter.it/it/speciali/maglienike2004/icone/allenamento.jpg
COACHING STAFF SHIRT
White round-neck shirt with royal blue motifs and mesh inserts in areas of greater perspiration.


Can t get image of training top just now
TRAINING TOP
Black round-neck training top with royal blue motifs and mesh inserts in areas of greater perspiration.

Rangers_FC
10-08-2004, 14:50
Sorry i put the inter tops in the wrong place but ill leave them there for you to view but for the juve fans here are their tops

http://www.juventus.com/Allegati/f_Prima_squadra115720129bc5bd-bcb3-4e1b-b537-c9cfe422b92.jpg

http://www.juventus.com/it/images/foto_juvestore_2.jpg

Rangers_FC
10-08-2004, 14:53
Del Piero turns on doubters

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There is a growing swell of opinion that Alex Del Piero’s career is over, but the Juve man is determined to prove them wrong by winning the Champions’ League.


“I am not worried by criticism,” insisted the Italian international, “and just concentrate on playing football. I hardly even read the newspapers anymore. All that counts is that the club, Coach and teammates have faith in me.”


Pinturicchio has long been a controversial figure among Italian supporters, loved by the Bianconeri faithful but often singled out for insults when the Azzurri struggle at major tournaments.


The latest snub came from his childhood hero and former Juve legend Michel Platini, who noted this week that Del Piero “used to have some qualities.”


“Michel has always been my idol,” said the Juventus captain, “but it’s been a fair few years since I took his poster down off my wall.”


“As for the rest, I am well aware that the press manages to amplify everything, so that a mistake is blown up out of all proportion and a goal turns you into a national hero. Everyone needs to look at football in a more balanced fashion, even though I’m used to this song and dance by now.”


Del Piero was the man who replaced Roberto Baggio in the Juventus Number 10 shirt and was meant to fulfil his role with the Azzurri, but as he nears 30 the player is determined to conquer the trophy that has eluded him since 1996.


“We are concentrated,” he said ahead of tonight’s Champions’ League preliminary round tie with Djurgarden.


“Juventus are not underestimating anyone and if there is someone who considers this match a pure formality then they do not belong in this team. We must seek out and expose their frailties without conceding a precious away goal at the Delle Alpi.”


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Jankulovski waits for Juve

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Talk of Marek Jankulovski’s move to Juventus has been around for six months, but he remains confident the switch will be completed.


“I have faith in my agents and the two clubs,” commented the Czech Republic international.


“I have the feeling that sooner or later an agreement will be reached by all parties. In Italy there is always a lot of talk, but at the end of the day the negotiations do generally reach a conclusion.”


The Udinese midfielder, who can also play as a fullback for his country, is a wanted man following his fine showing in Euro 2004.


Tottenham are putting pressure on the player to attempt a Premiership stint, while Inter are also keeping an eye on him, but he has known for months that Turin was to be his favoured destination.


“Obviously, to play alongside my fellow countryman and good friend Pavel Nedved would be the best that I could hope for. I must have patience.”


“In any case,” added Jankulovski, “I am still an Udinese player and would give my all for this club for the remaining two years of my contract.”

Teekay
10-08-2004, 16:29
I don't think Alex is going to quit soon, maybe in a couple of years time. Before that he propably wans to win something big, like Champions League. Jankulovski could be good player for Juve as hes quite an all-rounder. Interesting to see how this turns out! Zorza Juve! Beat the swedish tonight! results will be here as soon as I can put em'!

Rangers_FC
10-08-2004, 16:33
I don't think Alex is going to quit soon, maybe in a couple of years time. Before that he propably wans to win something big, like Champions League. Jankulovski could be good player for Juve as hes quite an all-rounder. Interesting to see how this turns out! Zorza Juve! Beat the swedish tonight! results will be here as soon as I can put em'!
Del Piero might have missed his chance to win the champions league when they got beat ac

Teekay
10-08-2004, 16:43
Del Piero might have missed his chance to win the champions league when they got beat ac

Not actually, he already won the chapions league in 1996. Final was played against Ajax. Juve might not be the Champions League Winner this year, but in 2005 they will be ready if the team stays together.

Here's Alex's official web page! (still under construction)
www.alessandrodelpiero.com

Rangers_FC
10-08-2004, 16:44
i know i just forgot about that one wasn t thinking
talk in my inter thread

Teekay
10-08-2004, 16:45
News from Juve website (www.juventus.com):

Champions League - 10 Aug 2004 - 10:31 AM

Capello's first time

Tuesday night?s match against Djurgarden is a real premiere: it?s the first time for Capello and Juventus together at the Champions? League and it?s also Fabio Capello?s first time on the black&white bench at the Delle Alpi.
The start is not one of the easiest as the stakes are high. As Capello said: ?All we?ve done so far has been done for this match. I?m confident, the players have achieved a good physical condition. However we must be attentive, particularly on the defense. We cannot concede goals at home; we have to attack, although sensibly, and also have great respect for the opponent?. On paper, Djurgarden of Sweden is not an irresistible opponent but it may as well cause problems: ?They?re a well organized team, like all the Swedish teams are. They?ll play very tight and we?ll have to play fast to create chances to score. Furthermore, we?ll need great concentration on place kicks and loose balls which, due to such tall opponents, may cause the most dangerous occasions.?
He?s given no advance news on the team roster. That is no pre-tactics, it?s just a well justified habit which Capello explains: ?I never give out the team roster the day before the match, not even to the team itself. I used to until I once had to renounce to some player who had fallen ill the night before and I then found it very hard to recover psychologically a player who was already persuaded to sit on the bench and eventually found he would play as first choice. That?s why I now use to give out the roster just before leaving the hotel and go to the stadium.?
The white&black coach has no doubt that whoever is playing is doing great: ?We?re certainly having some major absence. We?re still on a ?works in progress? stage but this is the beginning and I?m sure we?re going to be leaders this season, and we?re starting tomorrow.?

I'm not the only one confident bout tonights game!

btw: Juve just won this small tournament in Italy called Birra Moretti trophy against Inter and Palermo.

gollan
10-08-2004, 17:01
what time does the match begin? hopefully I can get out of the office on time. Oh, where is it broadcasted?

Teekay
10-08-2004, 17:16
It starts 9 pm italian time! It might be possible to watch it from Juve website or at least follow what's going on. I don't know if it is broadcasted in Italian TV.
http://www.juventus.com/uk/news/detailSigleDocument.aspx?lml_l anguage_id=0&trs_id=1372000

Lorenzinho
10-08-2004, 17:33
See the strip Gianluca Zambrotta is wearing in that picture,(the third strip, i think) i cant find it to buy ANYWHERE! Its the nicest one out of the lot, then its the Away strip then the home strip...

My point is...Does anyone know where i can buy it?
I've tried www.juvestore.com, all the shops i can think of but i cant find it.

Thanks in advance...

Teekay
10-08-2004, 19:32
Can't find it anywhere mate... I think they don't heve em' for sale yet. Just check out Juvestore time after time. Hope you get it, it's a cool shirt. :D

Rasmus
11-08-2004, 14:08
Well mates! That was i lame peformance yesterday huh?? Or actually I didn't watch the game, but 2-2 in Turin against a swedish team is not acceptable if you have the ambitions like juve have! And by the way Djurgården were ahead by 2-0... But that's what happens sometimes. Juve must show us what kind of team they are in the second match in Sweden. What if Juve don't qualify to the champions league this year??? What a disaster.. They HAVE to win in Sweden.. :(

50!
11-08-2004, 14:16
They will win in Sweden. Im not a Juve fan but i agree their performance last night was terrible and they were extremely lucky to get away with just a draw.

Teekay
11-08-2004, 15:13
What a game! I can't believe the result! But I'm confident they will win away! Here's the match story from soccernet.com:

Juventus 2-2 Djurgarden: FT Report
Reuters
Sweden's Djurgarden held Juventus to a 2-2 draw in the first leg of their Champions League third qualifying round on Tuesday, stunning the Italian giants in their first match under new manager Fabio Capello.

The Swedish champions took a two-goal lead before French striker David Trezeguet and Brazil midfielder Emerson, on his Juventus debut, dragged the Turin club back into the match.

"I am happy with the result because the way the game was going at one point we were really in a really bad position," Capello told reporters.

The only thing good about besides we didn't lose is that Emerson proved to be a quality transfer.

Djurgarden pressed Juventus from the start, forcing two early corners and a reaction save from goalkeeper Gianluigi Buffon. After 30 minutes Fredrik Stenman struck a shot past Buffon but his effort was ruled offside.

Djurgarden took a shock lead when Andreas Johansson converted a penalty in first-half stoppage time after a foul by Alessio Tacchinardi.

The Swedish side then made it 2-0 four minutes into the second half when Tobias Hysen charged into the penalty area, latched on to a backheeled return pass from Johan Arneng and fired a shot past Buffon.

Juventus, missing injured Czech playmaker Pavel Nedved, pulled a goal back within a minute through Trezeguet, who intercepted a pass and, with Djurgarden's goalkeeper Dembo Tourray diving the wrong way, swivelled to score from close range.

Then Emerson, playing his first game for Juventus since following manager Capello from Roma to the Turin club, met a cross from Ruben Olivera at the far post and powerfully headed home to equalise.

"Now we have go to get our heads right (for the return leg) which won't be easy," Emerson told reporters. "This clearly is not the result we were looking for."

gollan
11-08-2004, 18:57
hopefully everybody is going to be fit in 2 weeks time. we can't afford to lose.
wtf what a bad result I'm pissed off blah. :(

Singh
13-08-2004, 21:42
my favourtie Italian side

gollan
26-08-2004, 07:55
4-1. Great goals - not so much individual efforts, but oliviera was brilliant. Wer'e starting to look pretty good. Trez 1st goal was cool - bouncing off the grass.
Still montero's lack of responsibility is annoying.

gollan
13-09-2004, 10:27
Sesesational opening for the Old Lady!
Juve beat Brescia (away) 3-0 in the first match of the season.
Nedved scored in the first half, Trez and Zlatan (his debut) in the second.
Del Piero was involved in all the goals.
Great start Bianconerri!!!!

AfroJoe
13-09-2004, 13:19
Top of the table on the opening day.

Hopefully it'll stay that way for the whole season now.

Figо10
13-09-2004, 13:56
Being top early has a great effect.

Confidence is there, most teams losing their opener usually don't win the league.

Better continue well, will they be like Asenal, 5 games won outta 5???

gollan
23-09-2004, 09:27
Still top of the league, after the 3-0 victory last night. Del Piero, Zlatan and Trez to score. Great volley by Trez 88th minute. Juve are looking very hungry.
Who knows - but maybe this wll be another great season for the Old Lady.

Rasmus
23-09-2004, 22:46
Nice that I see the Juve thread again. It's been a while! I find it very good that some of you inhere actually like the same club as me!! By the way they haven't had a bad start of this season.. Zlatan and Cannavaro were two damn good signings.!.

SmAaTtAtN
24-09-2004, 21:47
not a bad start?! we are playing good football, about three goals per game, and none conceded so far. emerson and blasi are playing very good in the middle. i think ibrahimovic and trezeguet should start up front. and del piero should be put instead of camoranesi. when he played in midfield, he was exceptional this season. the defense is now more compact, thanks to cannavaro, he's the player we were really looking for

Suger Ray
25-09-2004, 13:00
Cannavaro has been absolutely amazing this season, Emerson has controlled the midfield greatly and Zlatan has done very well, not only 2 goals but assists aswell

Great signings, last season's were quite poor except Miccoli

We are doing great, we should beat Palermo tonight, as Toni is out, combined with our great defense this should mean Palermo wont score

Juve - Palermo: 2-0

SmAaTtAtN
25-09-2004, 15:22
i still cannot understand why we loaned away miccoli. he was the best player in the pre-season.

Rasmus
26-09-2004, 15:23
I totally agree! Miccoli is an outstanding player! He's the new Del Piero. Same technique, free kicks and great striker or playmaker. (He's faster than Del Piero, i know :D) By the way. What the f**k was that yesterday?? 1-1 draw at Delle Alppi is NOT good anough against palermo... But Zlatan scored and continued his great play!

gollan
26-09-2004, 16:20
Yeah. About the match, not Miccoli. Modern strikers need to be bigger, that is no secret. Miccoli has good technique and scores amazing shots, but just like Saviola wasn't good enough due to his size, so is Fabrizio. Not strong enough. Just for comparison - check out Zlatan or Trez. You can't wrestle the ball out of THEM. RVN, Ronaldo, C. Ronaldo - are all very strong physically which is very important in modern football. And why ask about Miccoli and not about Di Vaio? surely he is a better striker... but not as good as Zlatan or Trezeguet. Besides, Juve's problem last year was in the midfield (Davids - which now is solved by emerson) and defense (Cannavaro and Zebina, letting Thuram play CB).

Paul B
29-09-2004, 17:06
Just 6,500 at the Delle Alpi last night. What's that all about?

SmAaTtAtN
29-09-2004, 18:12
Juventus are the most popular team in Italy, but probably the stadium tickets are too high for the common people. let's put it this way, they are in Piemonte, and things aren't cheap there

gollan
31-10-2004, 17:17
What do you say about that? Juve are destroying any opposition in the serie A. 2 goals conceded until now...
Avenging the disgrace from last year in Roma
Thrashing chievo tonight with 3 fantastic goals, the one from Nedved was superb.
I think juve could be the best team in the world right now.
objectively speaking, off course :D

Teekay
07-11-2004, 10:55
phew, I finally got back online last week and now I got my new password to Pesinsight. Thanks to my internet service provider, my connection was fucked up for 3 Months! Well no harm done except I lost all of my files. While I have been away Juve has been doing well! That's great. I continue to update this thread in the future as before.

gollan
07-11-2004, 11:22
Well, TomiK14, don't get me wrong - I really appreciate you starting this wonderful thread, but in all the time that your internet was fucked up Juve hadn't lost a single match....guess I have to talk to your ISP to fuck your connection until the end of the season :D :D :D

What was that last night? we were totally ripped off - no penalty, and Kapo's goal was totally ONSIDE!!!
Hopefully Roma will not lose tonight so Milan will not close down the gap.

Bravoboy
07-11-2004, 11:27
Well, TomiK14, don't get me wrong - I really appreciate you starting this wonderful thread, but in all the time that your internet was fucked up Juve hadn't lost a single match....guess I have to talk to your ISP to fuck your connection until the end of the season :D :D :D

What was that last night? we were totally ripped off - no penalty, and Kapo's goal was totally ONSIDE!!!
Hopefully Roma will not lose tonight so Milan will not close down the gap.

I have to admit that Kapo's goal was onside, but I'm still not too sure about the penalty appeal.

gerrard2k4
08-11-2004, 18:47
GIVE US ENZO BACK!!
i think he would add that bit of team spirit and dogfight to our team that we need when he comes back from his loan period i would like west brom to make a loan offer for the player! hes classic!

Teekay
08-11-2004, 20:21
like Gollan said it seems like I have to go back offline! How unlucky and unfair that last Juve game against Reggina was. Anyway it didn't matter too much, cause' Roma and Milan tied. For once I'm pleased that Roma played well...

gollan
09-11-2004, 09:23
Yeah. And the better news are that Milan didn't play well at all. I think that generally Juve will not drop many points throughout the season, but the loss to Reggina was just a statistic - bad luck (onside goal, no penalty, Reggina's last goal being a flukey deflection). My fear was how are Juve going to handle Milan, Inter and Roma. Well, v. Roma we had our revenge - and I would carefully say that Inter are the tie-kings and Milan are not as good as everyone thought they'll be - they win, but they are not truly convincing (not like last season, anyhow).

Teekay
09-11-2004, 15:07
I think Milan is the worst opponent this season, even if they haven't played very well this season. Inter and Roma keep playing variable games. It wont be good for them when it comes to winning the championship.

Teekay
11-11-2004, 19:31
YES!! Juve gets back to winning games. 1-0 against Fiorentina. Heres the story of the match from www.juventus.com

Serie A - 10 Nov 2004 - 11:13 PM

Bravo Olivera!

In Serie A’s midweek fixture, the Bianconeri get back to victory, after the halt in Reggio Calabria,. Capello’s squad beats Fiorentina at the Delle Alpi thanks to a goal by Olivera on 27’ minutes.

A hard-fought first half with some good scoring occasions for the Bianconeri which they do not take advantage of. The most striking one occurs after 26 minutes: Camoranesi crosses for Del Piero who makes up a beautiful air finish cleared by Lupatelli into the corner (26 mins). The corner is taken by Camoranesi who serves for Ibrahimovic, whose consequent header is wide of target. Capello’s squad is being attacking from the very first minute of the game. After 3 minutes, a cross by Del Piero triggers a fine action followed by Ibrahimovic who assists Nedved. The latter’s shot ends over the the bar. Attempts also from Zambrotta at the edge of the box (13 mins) and Del Piero on a free kick but they still can’t break the tie. Among the Viola, two former Juventus players get into the spotlight: Miccoli on 1’ minute with a finish from a good position but over the bar and Maresca on 10’ minutes, who’s assisted by the very Miccoli and forces Buffon to his first and only save up to the break.
The second half starts with a free kick by Miccoli that ends up into the corner, deflected by the wall. The Bianconeri hit back with Ibrahimovic who clears well but he’s then late in dribbling and the Viola’s defence prevails. Capello replaces the injured Emerson with Olivera and Del Piero with Zalayeta. Fiorentina substitutes Nakata with Jorgensen. After 20 minutes into the second half, Miccoli serves Ujfalusi, whose left-footed effort is drifted wide. Few are the thrills at this stage of the game, until Juventus takes the lead on 27’ minutes: corner by Nedved, Camoranesi touches on and Olivera intercepts the ball and, from close range, doesn’t miss the net. It’s the first goal in Juventus for the Uruguayan, a true revelation at this start of the season. Fiorentina tries to react but attempts by Viali , Jorgensen and Miccoli fail. In the final minutes, the Bianconeri successfully resist to the latest attacks by the Viola and gain the three points.

JUVENTUS – FIORENTINA 1-0

GOALS: 27’ sh Olivera

JUVENTUS: Buffon, Pessotto, Thuram, Cannavaro, Zambrotta, Camoranesi, Emerson (11’sh Olivera), Blasi, Nedved, Ibrahimovic, Del Piero (18’sh Zalayeta) Manager: Capello. Substitues: Chimenti, Ferrara, Montero, Tudor, Kapo, Olivera, Zalayeta.

FIORENTINA: Lupatelli, Ujfalusi (45’sh Fantini), Viali, Delli Carri, Dainelli, Ariatti (33’sh Portillo), Obodo, Chiellini, Maresca, Nakata (15’sh Jorgensen), Miccoli. Manager: Buso. Substitues: Roccati, Di Livio, Savini, Piangerelli.

REFEREE: Farina

YELLOW CARDS: 14’fh Maresca, 20’fh Nedved, 21’fh Delli Carri, 8’sh Del Piero, 43’sh Miccoli, 45’sh Olivera, 48’sh Viali

SPECTATORS: 24.072

So it wasn't a great game if you look at the article, but the most important thing is of course that Juve won.

gollan
12-11-2004, 13:36
Maybe it wasn't a great match, but the fact that Milan only tied is far better news. 6 points ahead.

Teekay
12-11-2004, 16:20
Wow, that is great news! I'm really confident bout' Juve right now, even in the beginning of the season I had my little doubts about how their going to do. But it looks like I was worrying for nothing. :D

gollan
14-11-2004, 17:41
Whoo!
Another victory. This time a 1-0 over Lecce, undoubtly a strong and dangerous opponent. One goal from the prince in the 14th minute was enough. Milan also won, 2-1, 2 goals by the Ukranian goal machine.
Still 6 points ahead.
Next week - Inter here we come!!!

Fab
14-11-2004, 18:09
Whoo!
Another victory. This time a 1-0 over Lecce, undoubtly a strong and dangerous opponent. One goal from the prince in the 14th minute was enough. Milan also won, 2-1, 2 goals by the Ukranian goal machine.
Still 6 points ahead.
Next week - Inter here we come!!!

We are still unbeaten in 16 games and your not gonna stop us trust me ;)

gollan
15-11-2004, 09:56
Well it's good to see someone cares about Serie A around here.
My bet is a tie against Inter - which is not very surprising due to Inter's amazing statistics this season. 10 ties!!! Unbelievable.
Still, Juve is such a great overall team that maybe we can beat Inter. I think the match is in Milan, isn't it?
Anyway, it will be a good one.

Figо10
15-11-2004, 10:51
Sounds like Mancini is bent on keeping Inter's unbeaten run!!!

He must be proud of it to own the only one in the country :)

And I think Zlatan Ibrahimovic has achieved great things at Juve up to now, like having 5 league goals in 9 league games, setting up 2 Champions League winners against Bayern Munich, and playing very well for the team.

Oh, and anyway Juventus are one of only 2 teams to have maximum points from 4 Champions League games. AC, Inter and Juve all had 9 points from 3 games, which I think might signal the return of Italian football this season, remember in 2002-03 we had 3 Serie teams in the semis???

:)

gollan
15-11-2004, 11:34
Yeah. Oh well. Such a big opposite to last season's final stages with Porto, the champions of 1-0 victories and the generally dissapointing last year (with the Euro2004 sulky results). Having said that, 2002-2003 CL final was a total bore between Milan and Juve, but just remember all the other matches in elimination of that Season - unforgettable.
Zlatan's performance is very good, it's a pity that he is a bit unlucky with scoring goals - but overall he contributes to almost all of the team's goals, for example last night's goal by Del Piero and the goal against Bayern which you mentioned.
But my bet for the final four consists at this moment only of 2 teams : Juve and Chelsea. I really can't decide about the other 2. Candidates: Barca, Real, Milan, Inter, Man U, Arsenal. Having said that, I suddenly remembered last year so I should better shut up.

Figо10
15-11-2004, 13:02
Think last year is just a one-time lousy year, so you can continue talking :)

Like now. Monaco are fine but Porto, look at them, think they're gonna be the first defending champions to go out at the group stage, which might seem a surprise to many since they have boosted their squad as well. Semi-finalist Deportivo are last in their group as well and tumbling out.

Yeah 2002-03 was a GRREEEEAAAATTT year for eliminary rounds, like Real vs Man Utd, both legs were superb, as were Real vs Juve and Milan vs Ajax. And Juve-Barca, Inter-Valencia, the draws Fergie accused were fixed, were excellent as well. Maybe AC-Inter wasn't so, but the atmosphere was still fantastic.

Hope there's a repeat this year - No small team in the quarter-finals :D

Fab
15-11-2004, 17:40
Juve have some strange but brilliant record in this years champions league dont they. 4 wins , 4 goals , 0 conceded.
Inter have 3 wins , 10 goals, 2 conceded.

Juve are doing exellent this season i would say, but i have a feeling that when Inter can actually keep there lead and not concede that final goal for the draw, then we could win either the champions league or Serie A.

it is International week isnt it? so no Champions league :o

Figо10
16-11-2004, 01:00
No Champions League this week, think it's next week.

The stars gonna get a break after tons of club games, hope the internationa;s don't wear them down or give them injuries.

Teekay
16-11-2004, 16:41
Next Juventus match is on Friday. Away against Atalanta. Figo was right there are no Champions League games this week. I'm really looking forward to Inter game, it's a big test to both teams.

Rangers_FC
16-11-2004, 16:48
i have a funny feeling we(inter) are going to win 3-1
(Adriano hat-trick)

Gary G
16-11-2004, 16:57
i have a funny feeling we(inter) are going to win 3-1
(Adriano hat-trick)

I've got a funny feeling it will be a draw, resulting in them (Juventus) maintaining their 16-point lead over Inter.

Rangers_FC
16-11-2004, 16:59
r u a inter fan or are u takin the piss

Gary G
16-11-2004, 17:03
r u a inter fan or are u takin the piss


I'm taking the piss, I dislike Inter with a passion. This is mainly due to what happened when we drew 2-2 with them in the San Siro, when their fans threw flares amongst other things at our fans, and also Sergio Conceicao diving all match, the cheating cunt.

gollan
16-11-2004, 17:48
I think that this season's Inter is one of the most exciting teams in the world. It doesn't, however, solve by any way their loser mentality problem. To be more accurate - their DRAWER (:D) mentality.

Figо10
16-11-2004, 18:34
Yeah they're don't play the Italian way anymore - they've got plenty of attacking talents down the pitch in form of Vieri, Martins, Cruz, Adriano, Veron, Davids and van der Meyde.

Mancini has built a great team after he took over, with free transfers of Cambiasso and Davids, and loaning Veron to the Serie A club, which he has done well at so far. They will certainly be challenging for honours in the Champions League, but in the Italian league it seems a doubt.

Their unbeaten run of draws isn't helping them one little bit, and their wins aren't flowing through - gotta work harder to close the huge early-season gap in leaders Juventus or could be out before Christmas :)

gollan
17-11-2004, 08:18
Yeah they're don't play the Italian way anymore - they've got plenty of attacking talents down the pitch in form of Vieri, Martins, Cruz, Adriano, Veron, Davids and van der Meyde.

Mancini has built a great team after he took over, with free transfers of Cambiasso and Davids, and loaning Veron to the Serie A club, which he has done well at so far. They will certainly be challenging for honours in the Champions League, but in the Italian league it seems a doubt.

Their unbeaten run of draws isn't helping them one little bit, and their wins aren't flowing through - gotta work harder to close the huge early-season gap in leaders Juventus or could be out before Christmas :)

To be honest, and not as a Juve die-hard, I must say that the gap in Serie A right now between Milan and Juve and the rest of the teams is probably uncloseable. Do you see Milan or Juve drop so many points? I don't.

Figо10
17-11-2004, 08:29
Milan I'm not sure, but Juve definitely. Juventus are already 6 points ahead and Milan, and how many points are the 3rd-placed team behind Milan??? I won't dare to mention...

Juventus and AC Milan have consistent teams, they would bounce straight back after dropping a few points and won't go on a drought. Of course AC can still catch Juve, but my bet is that the duo of Italian giants would be on the top of the Seire charts this season.

Juventus should win it :)

gollan
17-11-2004, 09:40
Hopefully. The only thing that can change the tides is a result where Juve loses to Milan, thus closing down the gap to only 3 points. That will happen in a month or so.
Got to admit that this weekend - no games in Serie A - will have the Classico focus.

Figо10
17-11-2004, 09:44
I don't see Juventus losing at all, that solitary loss was probably unlucky. They play so consistently and disciplined. They have conceded very few goals, and manage to get one or two each match.

Guessing Juve won't succumb to more than 5 defeats this season.

gollan
17-11-2004, 09:59
Have you seen the match when Juve lost? It was so unlucky. We were robbed of a peno, a late equalizer by Oliviera that was totally onside was ruled offside, and both of Reggina's goals were flukes - one a deflection off Cannavaro that misled Buffon and the other some free kick that was deflected off the wall.
It's true - Juve has the best defense in the world - and that's different to having the best defenders in the world (Milan, IMO). Thruam and Cannavaro used to play in Parma together, and both are world class. Zebina and Zambrotta are very good side backs - but complimet each other. Zebina is originally a center back (played CB for Roma under Cappelo) and is very good at defense, while Zambrotta is actually a left winger, contributing to the offensive side. Add Emerson, who is a natural DMF - calm, great positioning, great defense - and Nedved who always helps with the defense - and there you go.
It's amazing to watch Cappelo's tactics. He is by far the best manager around - zero risks, 100% results guaranteed. Just like Raul for Read - when Alex is around the whole team is better due to the leadership and spirit, and IMO Juve is the best all around team in the world right now, even though they don't have a single "best player" in any given position - maybe Nedved as OMF, but then you must take Zidane into consideration. Oh, one more thing that I forgot - we do have the best - undisputed - goalie, which is also a very important factor.

Figо10
17-11-2004, 10:03
Yeah agree, I didn't watch the match but I can imagine the situation - it was like Spain against South Korea at the World Cup when they were disallowed 3 goals and much more.

But Juve has came back from that defeat, certainly stronger, and maybe, with improved luck for the future :)

Teekay
17-11-2004, 18:47
Yeah agree, I didn't watch the match but I can imagine the situation - it was like Spain against South Korea at the World Cup when they were disallowed 3 goals and much more.

But Juve has came back from that defeat, certainly stronger, and maybe, with improved luck for the future :)

You're absolutely right bout the match. I can't see Juve matches live, (except champions league games) but thats sounds just like what i've heard and read about the game.

Capello seems to be the perfect coach for Juve. I really thought it was a great loss that Lippi quit, but it seems to turn out well, but I think it's too early to say anything about Juve winning champions league or Serie A (As much as I would like to say that :D).

Teekay
20-11-2004, 20:46
Sad news to all the Juve fans. Juve lost 2-0 to Atalanta in a Coppa Italia match. I'm not desperate yet, there is the second leg match to come... :(

SmAaTtAtN
21-11-2004, 00:37
Sad news to all the Juve fans. Juve lost 2-0 to Atalanta in a Coppa Italia match. I'm not desperate yet, there is the second leg match to come... :(

did you actually aspect juve to win the match? we played with our second and third team

Teekay
22-11-2004, 18:17
Yeah I know Juve doesn't focus to Coppa Italia, but I'm always expecting good results when it comes to Juve playing. Enyone remember the champions league match where Arsenal only needed a draw to go through, but Juve won the match (which had no meaning to them) whit their second team.

Teekay
24-11-2004, 06:31
:D :D :D

Another 1-0 victory in Champions League! Here's the story:

Ajax defeated

The match before last of this Champions League’s round, won by the Bianconeri in great advance. Capello’s squad got on the field willing to win against a prestigious side like Ajax who, on the other hand, had few chances to qualify. In front of 6.865 spectators, 300 of which are Dutch, Juventus beats the ‘Lancers’ 1-0 thanks to a goal scored by Zalayeta after 14 minutes into the first half.

Not the game of the year, but we have not yet conceded a goal in this years champions league! Juve are now sure to go through, but Capello says they will still want to win.

The draw for first and second knockout stage will be held in Nyon, on the 17th of December.

Figо10
24-11-2004, 07:03
Juventus really play the Italian way :D

Only 5 goals scored, yet 15 points in the bag, Roma scored the same number but only have 1 point. They're doing well Juve, having not conceding a goal yet, I bet they'll fancy meeting another top club in the second round knockout phase :)

Capello has done relatively well in Turin, as opposed to Lippi as Italian manager. On the contrary, Roma have been falling apart since losing Capello. 3 managers have tried out without much success.

gollan
24-11-2004, 08:02
Juventus really play the Italian way :D

Only 5 goals scored, yet 15 points in the bag, Roma scored the same number but only have 1 point. They're doing well Juve, having not conceding a goal yet, I bet they'll fancy meeting another top club in the second round knockout phase :)

Capello has done relatively well in Turin, as opposed to Lippi as Italian manager. On the contrary, Roma have been falling apart since losing Capello. 3 managers have tried out without much success.

A point to consider regarding preservation of resources.
This doesn't presume to be a speech about economics, but:

1. football players are resources
2. resources can, and do, run out (fatigue, injuries, etc.)
3. in order to survive over a long period of time, resources must be spent wisely.

I presume that nobody watched the Juve-Maccabi Tel Aviv match 2 months ago, but trust me - I've never seen Juve play so gently. The players didn't go for a single, SINGLE tackle through the whole match. They won 1-0. As a dedicated Juve follower, I know that we are one of the most aggressive teams around. The reason - Cappelo wanted the game to be played in a certain pace. A walk in the park pace. There is a big difference between a match like the Milan-Barca match and the match Juve played v. Ajax, for example. Cappelo is very smart - he doesn't take unneccessary risks, he needs to preserve his player - and keep in mind Del Piero and Nedved are injury prone, Zebina is still not 100% OK, he let Cannavaro rest, and so on.
I want my team to go all the way - scudetto and CL - and that's why I don't need any big victories. It's sufficient that the opponent didn't have a single scoring chance to prove to me that we are the best right now - and unlike others - this preservation method can help us stay the best.

Figо10
24-11-2004, 08:53
True. Capello has been playing wise, big victories aren't necessarily needed. 1-0s are good enough. Or from another point of view, Juve hasn't conceded any goals, so that's something to be happy about.

I remember 2 seasons ago when AEK Athens drew all 6 CL games, they drew 3-3 with Real, 0-0 with Rosenborg, 1-1 with Roma etc. Unbeaten yeah, but outta the Champions League.

SmAaTtAtN
24-11-2004, 09:53
can someone tell me something about yesterday's match because i couldn't watch it as my father is a liverpool fan :(

Figо10
24-11-2004, 10:00
Juventus won Ajax 1-0 with a solitary goal from Zalayeta.

Juventus now have 5 wins from 5 :)

SmAaTtAtN
24-11-2004, 10:34
lol very detailed zazaa

that's all i needed to know, thanks m8

Teekay
24-11-2004, 16:46
I'm really not worried about Zlatan or Trezeguet getting injured. Why? Beacause Zalayeta has bee really good this season. Finally he starts to play at a steady level, so we can expect him to play more games in the future.

Figо10
24-11-2004, 16:52
So, no more striker woe for Juventus??? :)

Del Piero might get injured again, he's injury-prone, I'm not sure about Zlatan Ibrahimovic though.

Teekay
24-11-2004, 17:25
I hope Zalayeta continues to stay on top form. Last year we had a problem with strikers. Now we have four world class (Zlatan, Zalayta, Alex and Trezeguet) attackers instead of two. Also as he has shown us many times Nedved can always score important goals. Hope we're not going to have any kinds of problems this season. If someone gets injured, we have a lot of quality players on the bench too. :D

Figо10
24-11-2004, 17:28
Is Zambrotta playing in defence or midfield for Juventus now?

gollan
24-11-2004, 17:28
HAVE to disagree. Zalayeta is not consistent enough. My point of view is that we are lucky to have Zlatan this year, Alex (knock wood) is still in OK health, and David will probably come back to shape in 2 months. I won't be counting on Zalayeta AT ALL.

Teekay
25-11-2004, 14:33
That's true. But Zalayeta has shown good signs this year. If one of these four players injuries it's not bad, but two could be really worrying. The main thing is that Alex is in good health. He doesn't score so many goals nowadays, but he still is the true leader of the team.

Figо10
25-11-2004, 14:51
Capello has ruled him out of the Inter game at the San Siro :confused:


No Inter For Del Piero

Fabio Capello has confirmed that Alessandro Del Piero will not play Sunday night’s game against Inter.
The bianconeri’s captain is not fully fit and his physical condition is not yet at its best and will therefore not be on the pitch at San Siro in the clash against the nerazzurri.

“Del Piero will not play against Inter for sure, because he is not well and must work to be back next week,” stated Capello.

This will probably mean that the Old Lady will once again rely on Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Marcelo Zalayeta to score goals as has been the case in recent weeks.
From www.goal.com.

Strange isn't it??? I say he deserves to play at the San Srio.

Fab
25-11-2004, 15:00
iam not that threatend by Del Piero anyway.
You Juve fans better be expecting a draw from us on the weekend :D

Figо10
25-11-2004, 15:05
:)

Draw king Inter are comin' :D

I won't expect Inter to win, whereas the same can't be said about Juve. A draw is probably the most likely outcome, although I think Juve are gonna chalk up another impressive win.

Lorenzinho
25-11-2004, 15:09
Aha, La Derbi D'Italia. Someone ask Mutu to put a bet on for the game....Forza Juventus!

Teekay
25-11-2004, 15:16
I bet its 0-0, or 1-1 or 1-0 for Juve. No more than 2 goals anyway

Figо10
25-11-2004, 15:21
I'm rather sure it's 1-0 to Juve.

To record Inter's first defeat in Serie A this season :)

Harry-Kewell
25-11-2004, 15:39
Is Adriano injured or something?

He hasn't got his name on the score sheet in Inter's past two games, which is not like him. :eek:

So he must be, surely?

Teekay
25-11-2004, 15:43
I hope he doesn't breake that streak...

Figо10
25-11-2004, 15:49
Adriano's got more goals than Vieri, Martins, Recoba and Cruz combined.

Tells you something about his importance to the team.

Fab
25-11-2004, 15:58
Is Adriano injured or something?

He hasn't got his name on the score sheet in Inter's past two games, which is not like him. :eek:

So he must be, surely?


He was suspended from our last game against Weder bremen. And the game before that was in the TIM cup and he had only just came back from the brazil match against ecuador so Mancini rested him.

Adriano's got more goals than Vieri, Martins, Recoba and Cruz combined.

Tells you something about his importance to the team.

yeh , the match against Weder Bremen yesterday was different on Inters part. They were not playing aswell as we usually do then i was think why that might be :rolleyes:.................... .. Then it popped , Adriano wasnt there.

gollan
25-11-2004, 16:01
My bet is a draw as well, probably a 1-1. But why doesn't he play Alex? I mean, Alex, in 50% form, is better than Macello.

Teekay
26-11-2004, 12:38
Here's why Gollan, short story but anyway: Alessandro Del Piero won’t play against Inter on Sunday night. The captain is still suffering from the muscle pain that halted him last week. This was announced by Fabio Capello during the press conference after the match Juventus-Ajax. (www.juventus.com)

:( Hope his not away for a long time

gollan
26-11-2004, 12:52
I don't remember when was the last time Alex was 100% OK. He always suffers from some sort of injury. That's really annoying because he is such a major contribution to the team. Oh well, we'll have to do without him.

Teekay
26-11-2004, 13:04
It must have been years... It's so sad that he always seems to have a little injury, he's really one of the biggest, if not the biggest, Juve player in the last 15 years.

gollan
26-11-2004, 13:26
Beg to differ there.
Zidane and Baggio are.

Teekay
26-11-2004, 15:15
I remembered these incredible guys, but Alex has been around so long...

Nick Neville
26-11-2004, 15:18
More worryingly he's started singing, with Paulo Di Canio? Does that mean he's Glenn Hoddle or Chris Waddle singing "Diamond Lights"?

Teekay
26-11-2004, 15:58
More worryingly he's started singing, with Paulo Di Canio? Does that mean he's Glenn Hoddle or Chris Waddle singing "Diamond Lights"?

WTF!!!! U must be kiddin' me!?

Fab
26-11-2004, 16:06
Not sure if you have already posted about this excuse me if you have.

Charlton Athletic and Lokomotiv Moscow have been credited with an interest in Mark Iuliano in the Italian press.

The experienced Juventus stopper is out of contract in June and the Bianconeri hierarchy appear reluctant to agree fresh terms with the 31-year-old.

Although he made 18 Serie A appearances last term, Iuliano has not been a regular starter and is believed to be looking at his options as he is free to discuss terms with foreign clubs in January.

Lokomotiv are preparing a three-year offer for the centre back and the length of that proposal would be appealing to the former Salernitana man.

However, Charlton are also rumoured to be keen to offer Iuliano the opportunity to ply his trade in England and a move to London also represents an attractive proposition.

If Iuliano decides to remain in Italy, there will be no shortage of interest in his services.

Reggina, Lazio and Bologna have all been linked with a bid for him in the past.

What do you Juventus fans think of Luliano?

Source: http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=240022&lid=8&cpid=21&title=Iuliano+considering+opti ons

Jonny2J
26-11-2004, 16:14
I remembered these incredible guys, but Alex has been around so long...and apart from 97/98 season has been injury prone, inconsistent and not lived up to the hype whereas Baggio was the king of the Del Alpi and IMO was let go way too early

Figо10
26-11-2004, 16:39
Not sure if you have already posted about this excuse me if you have.

Charlton Athletic and Lokomotiv Moscow have been credited with an interest in Mark Iuliano in the Italian press.

The experienced Juventus stopper is out of contract in June and the Bianconeri hierarchy appear reluctant to agree fresh terms with the 31-year-old.

Although he made 18 Serie A appearances last term, Iuliano has not been a regular starter and is believed to be looking at his options as he is free to discuss terms with foreign clubs in January.

Lokomotiv are preparing a three-year offer for the centre back and the length of that proposal would be appealing to the former Salernitana man.

However, Charlton are also rumoured to be keen to offer Iuliano the opportunity to ply his trade in England and a move to London also represents an attractive proposition.

If Iuliano decides to remain in Italy, there will be no shortage of interest in his services.

Reggina, Lazio and Bologna have all been linked with a bid for him in the past.

What do you Juventus fans think of Luliano?

Source: http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=240022&lid=8&cpid=21&title=Iuliano+considering+opti ons
I don't think Juve need him so much now, they've bought Fabio Cannavaro and have up-and-coming defenders like Zebina and Legrottalie (sp?). Zambrotta can play on either flank at the back, so can Birindelli.

Teekay
26-11-2004, 17:44
I honestly cannot see Iuliano getting much time on the pitch in the future, so they could just let em go...

gollan
26-11-2004, 17:58
And don't forget we've got Pessoto, Montero and Tudor as well.
We have enough old defenders, thank you very much. We all saw that last season.
Bringing Cannavaro (who played CB together with Thuram in Parma) and moving Thruam to CB was brilliant by Cappelo. Thruam is older, 32, and is less effective in the right wing. His experience in defending is still vital. Cannavaro - well, he had a not-so-good season in Inter, but all in all he's a great defender.
Ahh, this year's Juve's defense
What a dream. :)

Teekay
26-11-2004, 18:01
you took the words out of my mouth mate... it's good that we replace old guys with younger talents.

Lorenzinho
26-11-2004, 18:19
I'm not bothered about them only scoring 5 goals. They've conceded none for pete's sake.

Think about it. In a match, you can be solid at the back and not let in any goals. But you're always going to get a couple of chances in a match, and as long as you bag them you're sorted. Juve's finishing has been clinical this season. This was quite visible when they were playing Chievo.
Chievo had numerous chances (for some reason the Defence was off song) and missed all of them. On the other hand, Juventus had very few opportunities and stuck 3 of them in the onion bag...

pier69
26-11-2004, 18:32
i always have this q in my mind , why dun juve sell off their strikers , like zalayeta and trezeguet , and buy torres or adriano or cassano ?

Teekay
26-11-2004, 18:58
Maybe Torres, Adriano and Cassano are not for sale or are very expensive. Torres would be my favourite guy of these players. He's a real talent and he's isn't arrogant, which Adriano and Cassano can be.

Teekay
26-11-2004, 19:19
Feel free to take my avatar, the new Juve logo, oh you already did...

gollan
27-11-2004, 00:02
Hehehe, good one Tomi. :D
Regarding Juve's strikers:
Pardon me?
You know, to me - it's the way I like it. I want people to say to themselves: "Oh, Juve's strikers. There are so many better ones". It's not the issue. Juve don't need no fancy striker like Adriano or Cassano. Sure, they can help. But people keep on forgetting that Trez was Serie A top scorer TWICE. The guy's execution is probably the best there is, and also his invisibility. Del Piero scores from lost situations, and Zlatan - well, the only problem with Zlatan's not scoring gets balanced by the fact that he usually draws out 2-3 of the opponents defenders.

Fab
27-11-2004, 00:05
Maybe Torres, Adriano and Cassano are not for sale or are very expensive. Torres would be my favourite guy of these players. He's a real talent and he's isn't arrogant, which Adriano and Cassano can be.

I agree Cassano is an arrogant person, but i dont see where you get Adriano being arrogant from. I see Adriano's interview's on Italian channel "Rai Due" and he is a very pleasent nice guy, with a smile on his face. Adriano has never said another nasty to know one is a really nice person on and off the field. And if your thinking about the time he hit Caniera, he was provoked by being kicked, pulling his shirt and then a slap to his face, everyone can only take so much.

Give me a reason why you say Adriano can be arrogant?

Fab
27-11-2004, 00:09
http://skysports.planetfootball.com/images/playerpics04_05/football/italy/inter/adriano_turn.jpg
Juventus' star midfielder Pavel Nedved has pinpointed Adriano as the danger when they clash with Internazionale on Sunday.

The Italian giants meet at Giuseppe Meazza this weekend and Nedved wants his colleagues to keep the Brazilian superstar quiet.

Juventus, who currently top Serie A, come into the game in form following their UEFA Champions League win over Ajax while Inter secured a point away to Werder Bremen.

"Adriano is who I fear the most," said Nedved. "His strength is not human. We will have to be really attentive. He's extraterrestrial.

"We won't be complacent due to the difference in the standings between us and Inter. We know they are a strong side, like us and we'll play our normal game."

Inter coach Roberto Mancini is hoping to use the game to bring the Nerazzurri to within 12 points of the summit of the Serie A table.

"We are behind them in the standings and we must try to beat Juve in order to close the gap and play our coming matches with confidence," said Mancini.

"We had the right mentality in the Champions League against Werder Bremen. We'll need to concentrate hard and be very relaxed."

Inter owner Massimo Moratti, who has been critical of the club's defence this season, was happy with the back-line against Werder on Wednesday.

The Nerazzurri supremo was also pleased with the forwards consisting of Christian Vieri, Julio Cruz and Obafemi Martins ahead of the Juve tie.

"The defence played really well and the team deserved the result," said Moratti. "I like Inter this evening. Vieri, Cruz and Martins, also played really well too."

Source: http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=240346&cpid=21&CLID=&lid=8&title=Nedved+pinpoints+Adriano

Scarface
27-11-2004, 00:21
I agree Cassano is an arrogant person, but i dont see where you get Adriano being arrogant from. I see Adriano's interview's on Italian channel "Rai Due" and he is a very pleasent nice guy, with a smile on his face. Adriano has never said another nasty to know one is a really nice person on and off the field. And if your thinking about the time he hit Caniera, he was provoked by being kicked, pulling his shirt and then a slap to his face, everyone can only take so much.

100% agree mate. I have heard Adriano being labelled the 'nicest footballer you will ever meet' and a generally pleasant guy. I think the term 'arrogant' is too widely used these days. Thierry Henry is also labelled it, usually just because of his celebrations. Now, when he scores, he just keeps a straight or moody face to try and hit back at his critics who think he is arrogant when he shows his emotions when he scores. As stupid as it is, expect Adriano to be labelled 'arrogant' etc a whole lot more, it mostly stems from jealousy but sometimes misinterpretation through a celebration rival fans took in the wrong way :rolleyes: . Both Adriano and Henry are really great guys and if anyone actually met them they would see they are far from arrogant, but they can expect abuse when they are the best strikers in the world now.

P.S. On the Adriano/Caneira incident i cannot believe the over-reaction towards it, he was slapped by the little girl, i hardly blame him for in the heat of the moment hitting him. It does not make Adriano a violent player, far from it, his disciplinary record is actually rather good.

Fab
27-11-2004, 01:04
Just some of all the previous results from the two teams meeting on sunday ;)

The First number always being Inter Milan.

Head-to-head results (home matches)

Date Result Scorers

Nov 28 1909 1-0 ENGLER

Mar 12 1911 1-1 M.WINTER

Nov 26 1911 6-1 4 AEBI, 2 BONTADINI

Jan 4 1914 6-1 2 L.CEVENINI III, 2 BAVASTRO, GAMA, A.CEVENINI I

May 17 1914 2-2 2 L.CEVENINI III

May 23 1920 1-0 AEBI

Apr 20 1924 2-2 2 L.CEVENINI III

Feb 7 1927 3-0 2 E.RIVOLTA, L.CEVENINI III

Apr 10 1927 2-1 POWOLNY, CASTELLAZZI

Feb 26 1928 1-0 E.RIVOLTA

May 18 1928 1-4 ZANOTTO

Apr 21 1929 4-2 2 MEAZZA, CONTI, RIVOLTA

Jun 29 1930 2-0 32' VIANI, 67' CONTI

Jan 18 1931 2-3 4' VECCHINA, 11' AUT. VOLLONO, 51' CESARINI, 72'
FERRARI, 83' SERANTONI

Jun 5 1932 2-4 4' MEAZZA, 15' MONTI, 57' FERRARI, 83' FERRARI, 85' ORSI,
90' MARIANI

May 25 1933 2-2 20' VARGLIEN II, 60' MEAZZA, 71' SERNAGIOTTO, 77'
LEVRATTO

Nov 12 1933 3-2 MEAZZA, FRIONE, LEVRATTO

Mar 31 1935 0-0

Nov 17 1935 4-0 10' MASCHERONI, 13' MEAZZA, 72' MEAZZA, 79' MEAZZA

Feb 21 1937 2-0 59' MEAZZA, 67' CAMPATELLI

Nov 14 1937 2-1 55' FERRARIS II, 63' RIG. FONI, 81' FERRARI

Oct 16 1938 5-0 10' CAMPATELLI, 21' FERRARIS II, 61' FROSSI, 69' VALE,
89' DEMARIA

Sep 17 1939 4-0 63' FROSSI, 67' GUARNIERI, 69' FROSSI, 74' GUARNIERI

Nov 10 1940 2-1 4' REBUZZI, 24' COLAUSSI, 49' CANDIANI

Jan 4 1942 4-1 22' QUARIO, 23' COMINELLI, 25' SALVI, 31' SENTIMENTI III,
89' MASCHERONI

Mar 14 1943 3-1 53' MEAZZA, 75' GADDONI, 82' CANDIANI, 90' GADDONI

Nov 18 1945 2-2 30' PIOLA, 40' PENZO, 58' BOREL, 86' PENZO

May 5 1946 1-0 49' PENZO

May 18 1947 0-0

Oct 12 1947 4-2 15' LORENZI, 53' LORENZI, 55' ZAPIRAIN, 60' CAMPATELLI,
69' KINCSES, 88' CERGOLI

Mar 6 1949 1-1 AMADEI, MUCCINELLI

Mar 26 1950 2-4 2 HANSEN, AUT. BERTUCCELLI, PRAEST, MUCCINELLI, AUT.
PAROLA

Dec 3 1950 3-0 2 NYERS, WILKES

Jun 1 1952 3-2 BROCCINI, ARMANO, LORENZI, BONIPERTI, HANSEN

Jan 4 1953 2-0 LORENZI, SKOGLUND

Apr 4 1954 6-0 SKOGLUND, ARMANO, BRIGHENTI, SKOGLUND, BRIGHENTI,
NESTI

Dec 12 1954 1-2 BRONÇE, BONIPERTI, BRIGHENTI

May 13 1956 0-2 COLOMBO, COLOMBO

Oct 14 1956 1-1 RIG. HAMRIN, DORIGO

Mar 16 1958 2-2 LORENZI, SIVORI, RIG. VINCENZI, CHARLES

Dec 7 1958 1-3 CHARLES, BICICLI, NICOLä, SIVORI

Apr 24 1960 0-3 2 SIVORI, BONIPERTI

Dec 8 1960 3-1 CORSO, MORBELLO, FIRMANI, MORA

Feb 4 1962 2-2 BICICLI, HITCHENS, SIVORI, STACCHINI

Dec 9 1962 1-0 JAIR

May 3 1964 1-0 MILANI

Dec 13 1964 1-1 JAIR, MAZZIA

May 8 1966 3-1 2 FACCHETTI, SUAREZ, MAZZIA

Dec 31 1966 1-1 MENICHELLI, MAZZOLA

Apr 28 1968 0-0

Jan 12 1969 1-2 2 ANASTASI, BURGNICH

Mar 1 1970 0-0

Dec 27 1970 2-0 10' CORSO, 67' BONINSEGNA

Jan 2 1972 0-0

Jan 7 1973 0-2 32' ALTAFINI, 85' ANASTASI

Apr 28 1974 0-2 32' BETTEGA, 54' BETTEGA

Dec 1 1974 0-1 72' CAPELLO

Apr 4 1976 1-0 80' BERTINI

May 8 1977 0-2 37' GORI, 63' TARDELLI

Dec 18 1977 0-1 85' TARDELLI

Apr 14 1979 2-1 15' CUCCUREDDU, 55' BARESI, 58' BECCALOSSI

Nov 11 1979 4-0 48' ALTOBELLI, 50' ALTOBELLI, 74' MURARO, 79'
ALTOBELLI

Mar 29 1981 1-0 61' MURARO

Dec 20 1981 0-0

Dec 19 1982 0-0

Apr 29 1984 1-2 24' CABRINI, 37' PLATINI, 45' RIG. ALTOBELLI

Nov 11 1984 4-0 12' RUMMENIGGE, 32' FERRI, 75' COLLOVATI, 88'
RUMMENIGGE

Nov 24 1985 1-1 1' BERGOMI, 52' PLATINI

Mar 15 1987 2-1 42' FANNA, 75' GARLINI, 88' SERENA

Oct 25 1987 2-1 9' SERENA, 51' DE AGOSTINI, 73' SERENA

Dec 18 1988 1-1 20' SERENA, 54' GALIA

Sep 17 1989 2-1 36' MATTHAUS, 46' KLINSMANN, 58' MAROCCHI

Mar 10 1991 2-0 36' MATTHAUS, 49' BATTISTINI

Apr 26 1992 1-3 30' RIG. E 37' BAGGIO, 54' SCHILLACI, 62' FONTOLAN

Oct 25 1992 3-1 39' SOSA, 45' SAMMER, 79' SHALIMOV, 85' MOLLER

Nov 28 1993 2-2 33' SOSA, 55' BAGGIO, 77' MOLLER, 90' RIG. SOSA

Mar 5 1995 0-0

Apr 20 1996 1-2 4' LOMBARDO A., 55' CONTE, 79' GANZ

Mar 9 1997 0-0

Jan 4 1998 1-0 47' DJORKAEFF

Feb 28 1999 0-0

Apr 16 2000 1-2 55' KOVACEVIC, 79' KOVACEVIC, 82' SEEDORF

Dec 3 2000 2-2 6' TREZEGUET, 10' ZIDANE, 12' BLANC, 65' DI BIAGIO

Mar 9 2002 2-2 6° SEEDORF, 13° TREZEGUET, 81° TUDOR, 91° SEEDORF

Oct 19 2002 1-1 88° DEL PIERO, 95° VIERI

Apr 4 2004 3-2 48° STANKOVIC, 6° MARTINS, 26° KILY GONZALEZ, 45°
VIERI, 94° DI VAIO

Nov 28 2004

Figо10
27-11-2004, 04:13
Nice list. Inter are good at home, but Juve should win this well, if not comfortably. Don't think Adriano or other strikers will score against the best defence in the world. And since Juventus' attack should give a=them a sort of goal from somewhere, Juve should win 1-0 at the San Siro.

Even without Del Piero and Trezeguet.

pier69
27-11-2004, 18:55
i am not criticising trezeguet or anything , but you think abt the good money that chelsea is willing to pay for him . and i agree , torres is a very good young player . and for me , adriano , wearing a juve jersey rocks . besides , inter has too many foreign , and adriano is not settling good in inter . so i think that juve should buy torres or adriano.....oh yeah another striker that i was abt to mention is milan baros....what u guys think abt him if he goes to juve ?

Lorenzinho
27-11-2004, 18:58
besides , inter has too many foreign , and adriano is not settling good in inter

Em....What? He's been single handedly keeping Inter alive. And before you say anything, i'm a Juventus fan aswell...

Teekay
28-11-2004, 12:26
:)

Sorry guys, it looks like I attcked Adriano with no reason. Basically I had that Valencia game in mind. I also read his interview in a football magazine and he seemed like a nice guy.

Bout Juves "striker problem" I don't think it even exists now. It would be waste of money to buy a new striker now, and put Zlatan or Trez to bench. Still when Alex retires I would like to see a new talent in his place. Lecce's Bojinov could be good. Of course my favourite would be Eremenko of Lecce as his Finnish.

gollan
28-11-2004, 13:16
My idea of our next striker is obvious: Cassano. Talented, good vibes with Capello and offcourse he will grow up - and I think the team in Juve can help him a lot.

Figо10
28-11-2004, 13:52
I think if Juventus get Cassano, they should let one of the strikers depart. To me 4 strikers in a team is the most appropriate, maybe with one extra youth-teamer. 5 is too many. Look at Real, 3 strikers and they dominate the appearances, and have relegated Morientes to the bench.

Usually only 2 strikers are on the pitch at once so the rotatry of 4 should be enough - a fifth and he would find difficulty making the pitch.

pier69
28-11-2004, 14:05
4 strikers is good , if one of them can play midfield , so they can be a winger .

Figо10
28-11-2004, 14:16
Think Del Piero's excelled in the playmaker's role, Ibrahimovic and Trezeguet are deadly strikers, so that triangle is possible.

SmAaTtAtN
28-11-2004, 14:36
Think Del Piero's excelled in the playmaker's role, Ibrahimovic and Trezeguet are deadly strikers, so that triangle is possible.

i prefer del piero to play as a midfielder. whenever he played as a midfielder with italy and in friendlies he really played good. and don't forget that he was one of the best players a few years ago when he played behing the forwards

gollan
28-11-2004, 14:57
Yeah but Trez and Zlatan are very alike and not very likely to compliment each other. Neither one of them is very pacey, both are excellent ball-keepers, tall, good headers, good at receiving the ball with their back to the goal. True, Trez is a better poacher and has got "invisibility" mode which helped him score many goals (including his signature, amazing steal of the ball off the goalie while getting ready to goal-kick the ball.) Zlatan is better with balance, keeping the ball and causing confusion in the opponents pitch. All in all, they are very similar. A better combination is someone with better passing, who can play better at the wing, etc. It's like Inter playing with Adriano and Vieri - doesn't work too well (didn't say it didn't work at all, though).

Teekay
28-11-2004, 15:21
Great players both of them, but u forgot something Gollan, they're both pretty lazy sometimes. :) SmAaTtAtN, change your avatar to the new Juve logo!

Figо10
28-11-2004, 15:31
Yeah but Trez and Zlatan are very alike and not very likely to compliment each other. Neither one of them is very pacey, both are excellent ball-keepers, tall, good headers, good at receiving the ball with their back to the goal. True, Trez is a better poacher and has got "invisibility" mode which helped him score many goals (including his signature, amazing steal of the ball off the goalie while getting ready to goal-kick the ball.) Zlatan is better with balance, keeping the ball and causing confusion in the opponents pitch. All in all, they are very similar. A better combination is someone with better passing, who can play better at the wing, etc. It's like Inter playing with Adriano and Vieri - doesn't work too well (didn't say it didn't work at all, though).
The few times I've seen Zlatan on highlights, I'm really impressed by his ball control. Seems rather like Alex in some way. He would receive the ball on the wing with Zidnae-like controlling, take it on his feet, do some nifty quick footing, some turns left and right, and finally drag back to get past the marker(s). Then cut in-field and cross or shoot.

Rather like Del Piero who likes to set up chances from crosses, dribbles, and shooting from the wings.

gollan
28-11-2004, 16:47
Nah. Alex and Zlatan are very different. To me you can put Alex in the same category with Raul, Totti, Baggio, Ronaldinho (which at this moment is in a class of his own) - strikers who play behind the strikers, or as a second striker with a-pivot like striker.
Zlatan and Trez are pivots - like Ruud, Adriano, Vieri, Ronaldo (even though he's not that brilliant with his back to the goal). Off course this division is very rough - but you know what I mean.

codename 47
28-11-2004, 16:50
how has del piero done this season ? like raul he was under pressure this season to get back to his best form

gollan
28-11-2004, 16:56
Del Piero - when he played - was very good. The only problem he didn't play much. Like Raul, as the leader of the club, he is always under a lot of pressure. Unlike Raul, Del Piero is in constant war with the press and always finds it neccessary to defend himself. He takes a lot of responsibility for the team and for me he might not be the greatest footballer, but the greatest person who plays great football. Listen to him speak, if you have the chance. Poetry.

gollan
28-11-2004, 21:41
I say what a match! Like most of us predicted - a draw. Nedved, Zlatan, Vieri and Adriano to score in this 2-2 2nd half thriller.
A bit sad that Juve couldn't hold on to the 2-0 lead, but hey - that's Adriano and Vieri there.
A good match and a good result.

SmAaTtAtN
28-11-2004, 22:09
very exciting and wonderful match. i really enjoyed watching juve play like that. pity it ended as a draw. but anyway well done to both teams

Figо10
29-11-2004, 00:13
I never knew Juventus could score 2 goals against Inter, and that Inter strikers will score twice againts Juve's solid defence, but that's just what happen. Credit Inter from bouncing back into the match from 2-0 down, they really did seem slipping out of Serie A already. 1 point may not be enough for Inter, but at least that's better than a defeat.

And they've survived the Juve ordeal - still with their unbeaten run :p

pier69
29-11-2004, 05:13
i watch that match too , i dind't know vieri would score , he's a has-been . and that pavel nedved's goal , it just touched zalayeta's knee and it becomes his goal , wtf . overall , its a nice match

Teekay
29-11-2004, 07:08
Damn, 2-2! Quite many goals, I expected no more than two goals in the whole match. It was a good match though. But this draw didn't do much harm, we're still four points clear from Milan. Most annoying thing was that we had two-nil lead and then Inter came from behind. Thanks to goals by Adriano and Vieiri. Some statistics, Juve has done 25 goals, as many as Inter (most in the league) and conceded only six goals (two yesterday), least in the league.

Figо10
29-11-2004, 07:55
Yeah and Inter have conceded 25, woah.

I didn't expect more than 2 goas either, cos it was a Serie A match. A draw at the San Siro doesn't sound too terrible, but just ask Inter, how many have they got :D And where they are now :p

gollan
29-11-2004, 09:25
Zlatan said after the match that it was a big dissapointment, Cappelo said thay didn't pay enough attention to Vieri and Adriano. I think that from the Inter side - this was a victorious draw.

Teekay
29-11-2004, 13:43
Yeah it surely was a disapointment, i play football myself, and when you get draw or lose after leading 2-0, it's twice as bad. It was good for Inter to get at least a draw, but they really would have needed a victory, which they luckily (to us) didn't get.

gollan
29-11-2004, 13:49
The ones I worry about also play in San Siro but they are not Inter...
The gap between us and the Rossoneri is only 4 points. We have to be extra careful now not to drop any points, as Milan's Crespo is doing a great job while Sheva is out.
Did you see his goal? great performance.

codename 47
29-11-2004, 14:32
yeah crespo is finally starting to hit form for milan after fans started to qquestion his finess.
was it a good game between inter and juve ? i've heard it was supposed to be a cracker

gollan
29-11-2004, 14:36
C R A C K E R

A great match, the 1st half was very defensive, the 2nd one was amazing. A classic Darby D'Italia.

codename 47
29-11-2004, 14:39
people say Serie A isn't as good as it used to be but, but they are still capable of producing a quality match or two

Figо10
29-11-2004, 16:07
In a season???

:D

The English Premiership is simply a league above all the others in the world, every week there are loads of fantasic matches, spectacular goals and the commentary is great as well. In Spain and Italy, there's too much diving and the team play isn't so smooth.

pier69
29-11-2004, 16:28
In a season???

:D

The English Premiership is simply a league above all the others in the world, every week there are loads of fantasic matches, spectacular goals and the commentary is great as well. In Spain and Italy, there's too much diving and the team play isn't so smooth.
i think spain , italy and england play very good football , i dunno abt the diving cuz every footballer dives . dun u think so ?

gollan
29-11-2004, 16:51
Et tu Figo10? You? Man what a dissapointment.
How can you say the EPL is above all others? I mean, I love watching EPL matches, but the class and quality of the players in La Liga and Serie A is better.
Besides, this is not the post for saying this. :D

Teekay
29-11-2004, 18:42
Hah, nothing beats a good old derby, PLAYED IN ITALY. In Italy the matches have true passion and feeling. I'm not saying that Premiership games don't but, it's not like in Italy.

Figо10
30-11-2004, 03:57
Et tu Figo10?

Besides, this is not the post for saying this. :D
What does that mean anyway!!??

Posted there because codename said "Serie A isn't as good as it used to be", my opinion is that that's because of the rise of the Spanish and English Premier Leagues. Spain and Italy do have good players, yup, but the team play is England is just phenomenal, isn't it??? They pass they ball between them so sleekly and skilfully, unlike Spain and Italy where only Barca and Inter do that.

Though I think winning Serie A is harder than the other two.

gollan
30-11-2004, 07:41
What I meant was that there are numerous threads persuming to contain the debate regarding "Which League is the Best". I rate the EPL third, after Italy and Spain. This is a Juve thread, so I only thought that those kind of debates shouldn't be held here - firstly, because this is Juve's turf - like I always show respect for Real in Real's thread. And secondly, because that debate was held, like I said, on other threads.
And lastly, and this is just my opinion, the fact that makes the game in england more fluid is the low level of defense, moreover, I'd say that the passing game in Spain is better than in England regardless of the defense levels.
I agree that Serie A has to be the most competitive league of all 3.

Teekay
01-12-2004, 08:54
The next Serie A match is against Lazio. It's played on Delle Alpi on Sunday 3.00 PM.
Lazio is currently 15th in the league.

gollan
01-12-2004, 13:55
We're gonna break them in half.

pier69
01-12-2004, 15:01
i think it will be another 2-0 type of score , of course , juve will win it

Teekay
01-12-2004, 18:47
We're gonna break them in half.

No doubt... Lazio has been crap this season.
:p

Teekay
02-12-2004, 20:18
Next Champions League Match is against Maccabi Tel Aviv. Match is played on 8th December, in Tel-Aviv. This match has no meaning to Juve, but we are not going to have an easy game in Israel.

To Gollan:
Are you going to see the match Gollan? It's in your home city, right?
Are you a Maccabi or Hapoel fan? Or neither?

If u're going to see the match, I'm so jelous mate!! :P:P

Teekay
02-12-2004, 20:20
Serie A top scorers (thanks to www.soccernet.com):

Top scorers: Serie A 2004/05
Rank Player Goals
1 Vincenzo Montella (Roma) 11
2 Leite Adriano (Inter Milan) 10
3 Andriy Shevchenko (AC Milan) 9
4 Valeri Bojinov (Lecce) 8
5 Mauro Esposito (Cagliari) 7
Francesco Totti (Roma) 7
Christiano Lucarelli (Livorno) 7
8 Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Juventus) 6
Alberto Gilardino (Parma) 6
10 Marcelo Zalayeta (Juventus) 5
Obafemi Martins (Inter Milan) 5
Alessandro Del Piero (Juventus) 5
Mirko Vucinic (Lecce) 5
Arturo Di Napoli (Messina) 5
15 David Di Michele (Udinese) 4
Vincenzo Iaquinta (Udinese) 4
Emiliano Bonazzoli (Reggina) 4
Riccardo Zampagna (Messina) 4
Andrea Caracciolo (Brescia) 4
Fabrizio Miccoli (Fiorentina) 4
Sasa Bjelanovic (Lecce) 4
David Trezeguet (Juventus) 4
23 Alessandro Parisi (Messina) 3
Gianfranco Zola (Cagliari) 3
Antonio Langella (Cagliari) 3
Franco Brienza (Palermo) 3
Luca Toni (Palermo) 3
Nicola Amoruso (Messina) 3
Dejan Stankovic (Inter Milan) 3
Tommaso Rocchi (Lazio) 3
Marco Cassetti (Lecce) 3
Daniele Portanova (Siena) 3
Fernando Couto (Lazio) 3
Marek Jankulovski (Udinese) 3
Giacomo Cipriani (Bologna) 3
Stefano Mauri (Udinese) 3
Pavel Nedved (Juventus) 3
David Suazo (Cagliari) 3
Igor Budan (Atalanta) 3
Marco Marchionni (Parma) 3
Giampaolo Pazzini (Atalanta) 3
Guillermo Giacomazzi (Lecce)

Fab
02-12-2004, 20:27
Serie A top scorers (thanks to www.soccernet.com):

Top scorers: Serie A 2004/05
Rank Player Goals
1 Vincenzo Montella (Roma) 11
2 Leite Adriano (Inter Milan) 10
3 Andriy Shevchenko (AC Milan) 9
4 Valeri Bojinov (Lecce) 8
5 Mauro Esposito (Cagliari) 7
Francesco Totti (Roma) 7
Christiano Lucarelli (Livorno) 7
8 Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Juventus) 6
Alberto Gilardino (Parma) 6
10 Marcelo Zalayeta (Juventus) 5
Obafemi Martins (Inter Milan) 5
Alessandro Del Piero (Juventus) 5
Mirko Vucinic (Lecce) 5
Arturo Di Napoli (Messina) 5
15 David Di Michele (Udinese) 4
Vincenzo Iaquinta (Udinese) 4
Emiliano Bonazzoli (Reggina) 4


Best partnerships from looking at this:

18 - Montella, Totti (Roma)
15 - Adriano, Martins (Inter)
13 - Bojinov, Vucinic (Lecce)

PS. Tomi in your signiture i like the Quote from Scarface ;) "This place is like one big pussy just wainting to be fucked". And in the non swearing version of Scaface he says " this place is like one big chicken just waiting to be plucked" :D

Teekay
02-12-2004, 20:27
Top five in the Italian league:

Table: Italian Serie A
November 28, 2004
Serie A

Games Points
Juventus 13 32
AC Milan 13 28
Udinese 13 22
Cagliari 13 19
Palermo 13 18

Finally it looks tidy enough... :D

Teekay
02-12-2004, 20:38
Best partnerships from looking at this:

18 - Montella, Totti (Juventus)
15 - Adriano, Martins (Inter)
13 - Bojinov, Vucinic (Lecce)

PS. Tomi in your signiture i like the Quote from Scarface ;) "This place is like one big pussy just wainting to be fucked". And in the non swearing version of Scaface he says " this place is like one big chicken just waiting to be plucked" :D

Thanks mate! :D Non swearing version!? HAH, must be hilarious :P. Anyway I changed my sig and I'm planning to make somekid of a scarface sig. Though I'm a newbie with this Picture It! program. Anyway, I'm sick, so I'm not going to school. Have to do something... :D

Teekay
02-12-2004, 20:47
Montella, Totti (Juventus). I wish, U sure mate? ;D

Top Juve Scorers in Serie A:

Zlatan Ibrahimovic 6 goals
Marcelo Zalayeta 5
Alessandro Del Piero 5
David Trezeguet 4
Pavel Nedved 3

Champions League:

Nedved 2

Funny fact:
Zlatan has been offside 23 times in this years champions league, beware Pippo Inzaghi!

gollan
03-12-2004, 15:54
Please no comparison between Zlatan and the little crying girl Pippa.

Of course I'm going to the match, only problem is getting tickets to the Juve side. I hate Maccabi Tel-Aviv and even hate hapoel worst. I support Haifa. :D

I have the feeling that Cappelo is going to come to Israel with a very thin team, so I can't expect a great match. On the other hand - the Juve players' had booked a club for Tuesday night (after the match) and my friend runs that place, so I will probably be there after the match. Try to get my Del Piero Jersey signed.

Teekay
03-12-2004, 15:59
Please no comparison between Zlatan and the little crying girl Pippa.

Of course I'm going to the match, only problem is getting tickets to the Juve side. I hate Maccabi Tel-Aviv and even hate hapoel worst. I support Haifa. :D

I have the feeling that Cappelo is going to come to Israel with a very thin team, so I can't expect a great match. On the other hand - the Juve players' had booked a club for Tuesday night (after the match) and my friend runs that place, so I will probably be there after the match. Try to get my Del Piero Jersey signed.

Sorry, bout the first one mate :D, it's was just so juicy. Maybe your friend who runs the club can get me plane tickets to Israel and a 15 year old kid in the club (Yes, 14 in my username is my jersey number, not my age :P). Anyways sounds you're going to have a fun night. Just don't bring your girlfriend too close to Juve guys.

Fab
03-12-2004, 18:40
Montella, Totti (Juventus). I wish, U sure mate? ;D


Shit!!
Yeh just changed it, bit of a stupid mistake there, Juve would never have such a good partnership :p

Anyway who has been your best two forwards for Juve? Like who worked best together.
Vieri and Boksic?

Teekay
03-12-2004, 19:19
Dunno.... Platini & Boniek was also pretty fine. Juve has usually had the best defence and midfield (In the last decades), not the best strikers. Except Paolo Rossi was great!

pier69
03-12-2004, 20:19
del piero and trez

Teekay
04-12-2004, 18:08
Trez is back on form! Great news! :D

http://www.juventus.com/uk/news/detail.aspx?lml_language_id=0&trs_id=1370000&ID=3467

S-D-P
04-12-2004, 19:17
inter are the draw merchants.

pier69
04-12-2004, 19:18
but we must think abt his form , trez has been injured for quite a long time , i think his form will be bad

Teekay
04-12-2004, 19:53
Yes, in the beginning. But he was good in the early season, so I hope he gets back to his top form quickly.

Fab
04-12-2004, 20:04
inter are the draw merchants.

Not any more, Were winning 2 - 0 so far with Adriano scoring both.

Dam Adriano was close to a hatrick:
'Adriano close to a third goal. The Brazilian nutmegs Eleftheropoulos with a wonderful piece of skill then sees his diagonal shot saved off the line by Zanchi.'

All the live action found here : http://inter.it/aas/partita/mc?L=en&ALEA=207550381&IDPARTITA=3464&SHOW=FORM

EDIT: INTER 3 - 0. ADRIANO HATRICK!!!

Teekay
04-12-2004, 21:06
Good for Inter. Looks like you're (or Adriano) getting on form. Maybe you could challenge Juve now ;)

Fab
04-12-2004, 21:12
Good for Inter. Looks like you're (or Adriano) getting on form. Maybe you could challenge Juve now ;)

haha nice joke. You were lucky to get a draw out of us, we played all over you.

Inter 5 - 0 Messina.
Adriano
Adriano
Adriano
Mihajlovic
Vieri

gollan
05-12-2004, 08:55
haha nice joke. You were lucky to get a draw out of us, we played all over you.


Say what?
Whatever. Let's just say this - you were lucky to draw, you know it, the Inter players know it, and let's just wait a couple of months for the rematch in the Delle Alpi.
Punk. :D

Teekay
05-12-2004, 15:45
Just changed my user name from Tomi_k14 to -Teekay-

gollan
05-12-2004, 17:02
Good news. We won 2-1 v. Lazio. In the 10th minute Lazio scored their first, after Zlatan missed a header in the 5th minute. Not to worry - Oliviera, who opened instead of Nedved (down with the Flu) scored the first after a cross from Camorranesi in the 40th minute. Oliviera was injured and replaced by Kapo, who dribbled past 2 defenders in the 75th minute, and crossed a ball that was deflected by Couto to Zlatan who managed to squeeze the ball in.
Whoo-hoo!
Still 4 points away from the Milanese bastards.

Teekay
05-12-2004, 17:19
Great news! As I guessed we beat those Lazio boys. Shame that this wasn't on the betting forum. It would have been easy points.

Thanks for the quick update Gollan.

SmAaTtAtN
05-12-2004, 17:27
it was a good game. at least we're still 4 points ahead

pier69
05-12-2004, 17:32
i knew kapo is good id rather use him than olievera if im capello

Teekay
07-12-2004, 06:55
I heard rumors Juve targets to get Marek Jankulovski (Udinese) and Rodrigo Taddei (Siena) in January. Whta do you think!?

gollan
07-12-2004, 08:15
Regarding Jankulowski - I've heard that rumor a couple of months ago. Didn't hear anything about Taddei though. BTW, Nedved, Alex and Zlatan are all coming to Tel-Aviv tomorrow. Thruam and Camorranesi will stay in Italy.

Teekay
07-12-2004, 15:37
Yeah I heard it a while ago too, but I posted it with the Taddei thing. Jankulovski could be a good transfer. I'm not sure bout Taddei though, he would be on the bench. Get ready for the game, remember your scarfes and jerseys with you. Shame I can't be there, I'd have this fine Juve flag i bought from Italy last summer. Have a good match mate :D!!!!!!!!

Teekay
08-12-2004, 13:00
Today's the match day! Last game of the CL group stage. Juve plays away against Maccabi Haifa at Tel Aviv. This game doesn't matter to us at all, but I hope it's going to be a good one. I can't see the match from telly, but have good night whoever is going to see it live at the spot... ;). Any predictions? A solid 3-0 would be nice....

gollan
08-12-2004, 14:32
A little correction there Teekay - they play Maccabi TEL AVIV in Tel-Aviv LoL, not Haifa. (which would be like saying they are playing AC Milan in Rome) :D
Anywho, I hope for a result better than 3-0 - even though Del Piero