View Full Version : What are you thinkin of the starter Master league team ?
Thorkelt
18-07-2003, 16:09
Baroja , Burchet, Eddington, Kelsen, Vorlander (german 36 years old)... ? I know you like them..
I want to know who's your favorite player in that team ?
Who's your captain ?
Who's the best scorer ?
Defender ?
And the worst player in this team...
See ya
Thorkelt
Eddington's French Fan
Zygalski
18-07-2003, 16:13
Castello and Huygens as the CFs.
Espina is a star.
Eddington is the best defender
castello and burchet are wicked
Espinas star winger
Matt is best DF
Thorkelt
18-07-2003, 16:18
We are agree with Espinas...
What about Llorga , this famous romanian defender ?
iorga's good but vorlander is good inthe air as he scores from corners more than my front 2.
vorlander and Valery are good at the back
Espinas is good on the wing and scores a few goals aswell
Huygens is prolific although i have no idea why.
Zygalski
18-07-2003, 18:48
Choice of formations?
Modified 3-5-2 with 2DMFs.
Modified 4-4-2 diamond.
Catello and Huygens all the way!!!
One time in PES1 I needed to win the match (don't know why exactly, just want to have a good record for being top of the league or something), Huygens ran down the right wing and crossed from close to the corner flag. Really high and hanging cross. Castello came running into the area and headed into the far post. That was in the 89th minute too. Nice one lads!
And I think itīs one of the worst things in the game, because if I want to play with ManU I want to play with Schloes, Van Nistelrooy and Giggs and not Baroja, Espinas &Co. I hate the default team.
Zygalski
18-07-2003, 20:56
It is strange but it makes the ML more of a challenge.
Does everyone knows how to play a league as a (default) club team? Hope so.
yeah, but it should be optional, especially in WE6FE it's a bad idea
Homer J.
19-07-2003, 09:32
Vorlander is the only player left after I bought 10 players, further I always leave castello in for a long time for he scores easily...
huygens the oranges man is a good partnership with castello.
I personally find Baroja better. Eddington and Espinas are the best players. And i always make Miranda my Captain.
i hope theres an option to play a club league in pes3, just like the international league.
yeah like a super league with out castello and the rest. so you have the original players like van nistelrooy and scholes in their teams. - lets hope so wixon.
fordfocus
07-08-2003, 09:15
either I like the team or not I would agree with zyg. it makes more of a challenge. the best on this team in my opinion is espinas, miranda and matt. the worst is njord
Originally posted by larsson
And I think itīs one of the worst things in the game, because if I want to play with ManU I want to play with Schloes, Van Nistelrooy and Giggs and not Baroja, Espinas &Co. I hate the default team.
In which case, you can play a regular league, and not Master League. What would be the point in starting out with all the best players so that you can coast through the divisions and win everything?
I think Vorlander is great at the back, he always wins the headers. However he has very low stamina. Bird-Sh1t (Burchet on PES1) was very good, as was Castello. But PES2 has made them worse or maybe just because 70 points was the border mark for yellow stats and after playing PES2, it makes them look better.
Cellini is my captain and favourite player. He is great in takles and is always my man to get the first red card. He also has white boots. I like most of the players with white boots. :)
i think matt is good, he seems to have a better shot than most
I used to love matt. he scored one of the best goals I've ever scored, with his left foot aswel :eek: . But then I started noticing a few wayward passes. I chose to ignore because of my like of him. Then I took a look at his passing stats. Very crap. But everything else, he is good I guess.
Originally posted by perles
In which case, you can play a regular league, and not Master League. What would be the point in starting out with all the best players so that you can coast through the divisions and win everything?
I said that I want to play with ManU or Real, and Valery or Baroja or not real players from Real. On the one hand you say you want a realistic game and on the other you say default players are OK. I don't understand your point of view mate. The ML is like the Champions League and there are Beckham, Raul and Figo playing and not Castello or Matt. One of the most unrealistic things in a football game is the lack of original players. I want to start with all original players, the best solution would be to make this optional.
I agree that the option would be cool, however I wouldn't chose to start with the real players. Don't you think it is exciting building up your master league team and having a challenge to get to your final squad?
Yeah, but you could start with a weaker team like Monaco or Hamburg as well and play on extreme and build up a new team with new stars and with the talents you invest your points in. The main thing is that I want real names from the beginning. And I think it also could be a challenge to play with a big team like ManU on extreme, because not everyone is so good that he beats every opponent on extreme 5-0. I played with Real on extreme and I won the ML but it still was a challenge for me although I had a lot of stars. :cool:
Ok. Fair enough. I guess I must be too much of a PES master. :cool:
Thats the only remaining solution :D. I got relegated from first division when I played on extreme with Paris :D
ivanov till i die tremendos shot stopper
whay a guy! SWEET!!!!!!!!!!:)
tottiiii
07-08-2003, 21:33
i will not be playing with them for that long....if i have to ill edit some alright players make them suck....buy them for cheap then fix them....i cant stand playing with the default team....i dont care about it being more a chanllenge....it takes away to the fun for me when i gotta play with those losers
Originally posted by larsson
I said that I want to play with ManU or Real, and Valery or Baroja or not real players from Real. On the one hand you say you want a realistic game and on the other you say default players are OK. I don't understand your point of view mate. The ML is like the Champions League and there are Beckham, Raul and Figo playing and not Castello or Matt. One of the most unrealistic things in a football game is the lack of original players. I want to start with all original players, the best solution would be to make this optional.
If you want to play with real players from Man Utd or Real, then what I was suggesting was that you can play a regular league rather than ML.
I never said "I want a realistic game" nor did I say the counter-view, "the default players are okay" - so it's no wonder you don't understand my point of view "mate".
Neither, it seems, do you understand the point of Master League.
Forget it mate ! Normal league is not the same as ML. And I think you don't understand the point of ML. Because it's like an European League, eg. the Champions League, and the point of that league is that there are only stars playing. If you want to play with the default it's not my problem but don't critise me for my opinion, as you can see in this thread I'm not the only one with such an opinion, and remember mate, I said playing with the stars from the beginning should be optional, so you can still play with Baroja & Co.
Regards
Talk about hypocritical. I play with the default players as long as it takes for me to replace them - <I>that's</I> the point of Master League, that you're creating a 'dream team' to take to the top of the first division and win the cups.
And if you're going to accuse someone of crititicising your opinion, make sure that in the same breath, you're not criticising them of their opinion.
Let's just agree to disagree. Personally, I don't see the point in starting a Master League with the chosen team's players. If I started Division 2 ML with the Man Utd team on Extreme, I'd would simply not lose a league nor cup match. However, having the likes of Vorlander bumbling about makes things a little more interesting.
Having to work your way up, buy the players you want - and if you can't get them, compromise - that's a challenge. If all you want to do is win every game by a dozen goals, then that's your prerogative. You can even slap yourself on the back for being such a great player, too. If you like. Well done.
Ok mate, let's stop this, the point is, I mentioned it before, that you don't have to start with ManU or Milan, you could start e.g. with Hamburg with the original players. This team is almost as weak as the default team, but at least you have original players. And don't forget one thing, not everyone can win every game on extreme with ManU 5-0 like you, I had some troubles with Real to win the championship, actually I won only 2 of my 5 seasons in 1st division, not everyone has the time to play 5 hours a day to became such a good player like you.
in reply to perles's post:
Vorlander and bumbling should not be written or spoken in the same sentence. Vorlander is the king of ML!
I agree with all your other points though. If you want to play with all the original team players there should be a normal league where you can't buy or sell players.
Fair enough. Actually, I know what you mean about Hamburg and stuff. If there was a different set of default players, that would be a welcome change.
I just thought you were some glory-hound who only took pleasure in winning all the time without effort.
It's not about playing the game 5 hours a day, to be honest, it's about the longevity of the game. For example, when the game comes out there seems a rush of people wanting everything unlocked for them ("Muh, can I download an option file with everything already completed") - PES/WE are just about the only games I play, and so spending 40-pounds in November is great value for a game that you're still playing constantly 8 months later.
I just never saw the point in making things easier for me, when the game is upon release truly the best game on any platform ever (as far as I'm concerned) - why not enjoy it to the full.
With regard to my previous post, I must apologise to tarnishing the reputation of the Mighty Vorlander.
I think Vorlander, Cellini, and Castello stay in my ML team longer than the others.
I was just trying to think of a truly awful Default ML player... I've never been too impressed with Eddington, although I know people who rate him.
Yeah, think you got my point, I'm not that guy who downloads option files to get hidden players, although I downloaded Zygalski's option file for WE7 :D, but you know the reasons. I like to unlock everything for myself. And I think it's quite good to lose sometimes, this makes the game so good, that you can still lose 0-3 after 8 months of regular playing. But I don't have to much time to play, so I'm not as good as you are, although I've won the ML on extreme a couple of times. It would be nice to have some good or even average players from the beginning. Couple of weeks ago I couldn't get out of the 3rd division on extreme with Celtic in 5 seasons and I gave up :(
I think we got there in the end. Extreme on PES2, I was in the third division for ages because it was really difficult to get any players at all, and I seem to recall getting hardly any points at all for winning any of my games, so played with most of the default players for ages. Even the people who weren't signed to anyone wouldn't play for me. With one of my teams, I won ML Extreme D1, loads of times, but Celtic always knocked me out of the cup, so I've still never won it.
Seemed slightly easier in WE6:FE, though - only had a couple of seasons in D3 (well, promoted in my second), promoted in my first season in D2, and won the cup and the D1 in my second season at the top level.
Hmm... I think it's started to mean a bit too much to me. Never mind, new season starts this weekend. About time!
I don't care what any of you say Eddington is still the King
Eddington is only the king of shinning the ball out of play on a regular basis.
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