The Hip/Hop Thread [Archive] - Page 2

Kevthedrummer

24-04-2005, 02:01

I was just wondering what everyone thought about talib kweli's recent album. personally i loved it but it doesnt get talked about much not even by the people who know a lot abo hip-hop, which i find surprising. Another thing i was thinking about was kanye's new album. will it be half as good as the college drop-out or will it be a dissapointment.

Yeah I love talib kweli's new one... I haven't got it yet but I heard it at my mate Jemal's house and I think it was track 5 or 6 blew me away!

Gunplay

24-04-2005, 17:04

I think it was track 5 or 6 blew me away!
Track 6 - ''I Try'' Featuring Mary J. Blige, superb track that. Though I thought his album was abit disappointing, and lacked that tough underground hiphop feel to it. Which he made a name for himself due to.

To razor, I think Kanye West will top College Dropout, his style of production is very creative.

Hunter

24-04-2005, 20:37

Sorry if no-one has heard of him and isn't really interested but I was when I read it so I thought this being the Hip/Hop Thread that I might as well post it:

Happenned yesterday.

I'm still in shock. I.E. representer and one of my good friends Kay9ine, was killed today. There are no details on the incident, but word is that the yet to be revealed killer(s) broke into his house, shot Kay9ines mother in the head, and proceeded to kidnap him. His body was later found in the back of a car. His mother is currently still on life support. We wish her the best.

For those who don't know, Kay9ine was also the brother in law of Billboard aka 4Bent (R.I.P.) from Black Wall Street.

We will run a special Kay9ine feature tomorrow. You can also read an interview I conducted with Kay9ine back in 2002, by clicking here. He had his biggest hit in 2002 with Kurupt, called "Extra'd Out" from his album "The 9ine Cocked Back".

Source from: www.theblackwallstreet.com

JoeyM

02-05-2005, 03:50

Gunplay

02-05-2005, 03:55

Wondering if anyone here can recommend me Nas's 2nd best album, I've had Illmatic for a while and I love it, but after hearing his work after that was lackluster I put off buying another of his work until now, I'm thinking either God's Son, or Stillmatic, but that's just from what reviews I've read.
Yes God's Son and Stillmatic, are what I would recommend.
His other stuff has been compared too much to Illmatic which was a masterpiece unable to surpass.

wrigh2uk

03-05-2005, 16:52

^ I Am isn't a bad album either,

you should never try and compare any nas or any other album to masterpieces such as illmatic, like nas said you can't make another illmatic

Alcoholic

06-05-2005, 20:47

^ I Am isn't a bad album either,

you should never try and compare any nas or any other album to masterpieces such as illmatic, like nas said you can't make another illmatic

You cant make another Chronic, Doggystle, All Eyez On Me, Staight Outta Compton or Lethal Injection either.

Gunplay

25-05-2005, 13:29

Most of you lot probably know this, but anyway.
http://img164.echo.cx/img164/3038/jin6yy.jpg
Jin, who's regarded as the first Chinese rapper to ever make it in mainstream music, has just quit. In my opinion he was one of the best freestyle rappers, shame he didn't have the same affect when it came to making songs.

Here is what is meant to be his last ever track it's called ''I Quit'' (http://mp3download.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=bandprofi le.downloadSong&bsid=1025858&song_name=IQuit&fid=4044553)

soliloquay

25-05-2005, 13:33

Gunplay man, who the fuck cares?

Nah really, I'll give him a try. What is freestyle rapping?

Gunplay

25-05-2005, 13:43

Gunplay man, who the fuck cares?

Nah really, I'll give him a try. What is freestyle rapping?
Nice debut post in the Hip Hop thread soliloquay :innocent: .

Don't give him a try for the sake of him quitting. Stick to the ''who the fuck cares'' persona and don't bother posting in here, make a ''Doom Metal'' thread, so I can post a ''who the fuck cares'' there too, it's only fair.

soliloquay

25-05-2005, 13:52

Nice debut post in the Hip Hop thread soliloquay :innocent: .

Don't give him a try for the sake of him quitting. Stick to the ''who the fuck cares'' persona and don't bother posting in here, make a ''Doom Metal'' thread, so I can post a ''who the fuck cares'' there too, it's only fair.

Apart from the fact that the first sentence of my post is totally sarcastic, I don't know anything about rap or hip-hop just because I always find people like you who tell me to go listen to "doom metal". I don't see the point in opening a thread about metal.

Anyway, would you mind answering my first question for me or do I have to wait for someone respectable and friendly?

Gunplay

25-05-2005, 14:01

Apart from the fact that the first sentence of my post is totally sarcastic, I don't know anything about rap or hip-hop just because I always find people like you who tell me to go listen to "doom metal". I don't see the point in opening a thread about metal.

Anyway, would you mind answering my first question for me or do I have to wait for someone respectable and friendly?
Since when was ''who the fuck cares'' sarcastic? If it even was then what shitty sarcasm implemented.

You gave me an ignorant post so I gave you a taste of your own medicine by telling you to go back and listen to your previous musical tastes.

And don't worry I won't weep for your respect. Unfriendly ey? You seem to forget the amount of times I have helped inform you on Hip Hop artists such as M.O.P.

You know it was uncalled for, yet won't admit it.

soliloquay

25-05-2005, 14:05

Since when was ''who the fuck cares'' sarcastic? If it even was then what shitty sarcasm implemented.

You gave me an ignorant post so I gave you a taste of your own medicine by telling you to go back and listen to your previous musical tastes.

And don't worry I won't weep for your respect. Unfriendly ey? You seem to forget the amount of times I have helped inform you on Hip Hop artists such as M.O.P.

You know it was uncalled for, yet won't admit it.

So because you gave me some points on M.O.P., that justifies why you know don't feel like giving me some more information about your genre?

My post was sarcastic. Look at it again, first comes "who the fuck cares?", then comes "nah really, I'll give him a try". See it now?

P.S. that song (I Quit) was not so bad, but i got bored after a while. 7 minutes is too much for me.

Gunplay

25-05-2005, 14:18

So because you gave me some points on M.O.P., that justifies why you know don't feel like giving me some more information about your genre?

My post was sarcastic. Look at it again, first comes "who the fuck cares?", then comes "nah really, I'll give him a try". See it now?

P.S. that song (I Quit) was not so bad, but i got bored after a while. 7 minutes is too much for me.
MOP (http://forum.pesinsight.com/showthread.php?t=21534)
Here is that thread. If you compare my posts to the other informers, it did take alot of time. I was also interacting with you in a pleasant way. Not just lobbing my information at you and fucking off.

And read my post again I never said I don't feel like giving you info, you just gave me the idea you are an ignorant twunt, therefore you don't deserve any information.

''Nah really i'll give him a try'' = ''well....since he's quit, i'll see if he was shite''

Like I said before the sarcasm was rubbish and badly timed.

The song isn't 7 minutes it's just under 3 minutes, you must've kept listening to him talking at the end. No worries link is better now.

soliloquay

25-05-2005, 14:26

MOP (http://forum.pesinsight.com/showthread.php?t=21534)
Here is that thread. If you compare my posts to the other informers, it did take alot of time. I was also interacting with you in a pleasant way. Not just lobbing my information at you and fucking off.

And read my post again I never said I don't feel like giving you info, you just gave me the idea you are an ignorant twunt, therefore you don't deserve any information.

''Nah really i'll give him a try'' = ''well....since he's quit, i'll see if he was shite''

Like I said before the sarcasm was rubbish and badly timed.

The song isn't 7 minutes it's just under 3 minutes, you must've kept listening to him talking at the end. No worries link is better now.

The link was unnecessary. I checked the thread before posting my latter post. I know you helped me willingly, and I appreciated it since I really loved their song Ante Up.

What's that equation thing there? I would never call a rapper shit for the sole reason that I don't hear much rap and I don't know what makes a rapper good, therefore it's not for me to judge. I try to rely on people like you to share their opinions and maybe I could learn something new, but this is what I get.

There is no difference in the outcome between "not deserving information" and "not feeling like giving info". That's your choice. Why should I not deserve the information? Just because my sarcasm was badly timed? Oh no, what a sad bastard I am. Just remain cool and do as you're supposed to do.

I think this argument is not taking place only because of my badly timed sarcasm.

Gunplay

25-05-2005, 14:52

The link was unnecessary. I checked the thread before posting my latter post. I know you helped me willingly, and I appreciated it since I really loved their song Ante Up.

What's that equation thing there? I would never call a rapper shit for the sole reason that I don't hear much rap and I don't know what makes a rapper good, therefore it's not for me to judge. I try to rely on people like you to share their opinions and maybe I could learn something new, but this is what I get.

There is no difference in the outcome between "not deserving information" and "not feeling like giving info". That's your choice. Why should I not deserve the information? Just because my sarcasm was badly timed? Oh no, what a sad bastard I am. Just remain cool and do as you're supposed to do.

I think this argument is not taking place only because of my badly timed sarcasm.

How was the link unnecessary? You said I only made some points and forgot my ''friendlyness''.

If you want to rely on people like me, Jonny2J and others. Then taking the piss out of one of ours decent posts won't cut it.

Yes their is a difference. If I didn't want to give you anything, then that would be plain childish. If you didn't deserve it then their would be a good reason to ala ''taking the piss''. And sarcasm marks how serious a person is in a discussion it is also known as ''taking the piss'' or ''fucking about''. Which you gave me an impression of. It was also badly timed, as in the discussion was not even remotely funny. Maybe you are use to launching random sarcastic posts in the ''Offtopic Forum'' who knows?

No this argument is taking place cause of shite and badly timed sarcasm. Don't even begin to say it is due to your other saga in the Offtopic part of Insight. I hold no grudges.

soliloquay

25-05-2005, 20:36

How was the link unnecessary? You said I only made some points and forgot my ''friendlyness''.

If you want to rely on people like me, Jonny2J and others. Then taking the piss out of one of ours decent posts won't cut it.

Yes their is a difference. If I didn't want to give you anything, then that would be plain childish. If you didn't deserve it then their would be a good reason to ala ''taking the piss''. And sarcasm marks how serious a person is in a discussion it is also known as ''taking the piss'' or ''fucking about''. Which you gave me an impression of. It was also badly timed, as in the discussion was not even remotely funny. Maybe you are use to launching random sarcastic posts in the ''Offtopic Forum'' who knows?

No this argument is taking place cause of shite and badly timed sarcasm. Don't even begin to say it is due to your other saga in the Offtopic part of Insight. I hold no grudges.

We're not going to agree on anything so let's just quit it and not ruin the thread. This fuss is for nothing.

May I please, and willingly, know what freestyle rapping is?

Singh

25-05-2005, 20:44

soliloquay

25-05-2005, 20:48

Freestyle rap is rap is done in the moment at pure free flow, without pre- composed lyrics, and reflecting a direct mapping of the mental state and performing situation of the artist. It is similar in this sense to improvisational music or acting.

See it Gunplay? Didn't take much. Thanks Singh.

How can you see/hear rappers freestyle rapping though? I mean when you listen to songs, everything is pre-composed right?

Gunplay

25-05-2005, 20:52

See it Gunplay? Didn't take much.
Sorry soliloquay, but was that SmAaTtAtN speaking?

Grow up already.

soliloquay

25-05-2005, 20:56

Sorry soliloquay, but was that SmAaTtAtN speaking?

Grow up already.

He went for a walk :rolleyes:. Stop the argument already, moaninho :rolleyes:

Gunplay

25-05-2005, 23:20

He went for a walk :rolleyes:. Stop the argument already, moaninho :rolleyes:
Moaninho? My goodness. I better stop before i'm forced into submission by your snapshot wit.

soliloquay

25-05-2005, 23:28

Moaninho? My goodness. I better stop before i'm forced into submission by your snapshot wit.

At least it managed to end the argument.

Can anybody give me some info on Cyprus Hill. I have some friends who really love them. Any songs I should listen too?

Ogopa Djz

26-05-2005, 01:34

Forget Cypruss hill listen to the The new Common Album "Be".

Gunplay

26-05-2005, 01:36

Forget Cypruss hill listen to the The new Common Album "Be".
I concur.

Can't Wait! (http://216.65.13.9/littlebrother/)

Ogopa Djz

26-05-2005, 02:03

I concur.

Can't Wait! (http://216.65.13.9/littlebrother/)

OH MY Just when you though Hip-Hop was going to the gutta.....
Gotta get a bit more dough if i expect to by all these classic albums.

Edit- I just made that site my homepage. :D

Gunplay

26-05-2005, 02:26

OH MY Just when you though Hip-Hop was going to the gutta.....
Gotta get a bit more dough if i expect to by all these classic albums.

Edit- I just made that site my homepage. :D
Little Brother are class, reminding me of the Blackstar/De La Soul/A Tribe Called Quest days. Except with 9th Wonder producing the bangers :cool: .

Ogopa Djz

26-05-2005, 02:34

Little Brother are class, reminding me of the Blackstar/De La Soul/A Tribe Called Quest days. Except with 9th Wonder producing the bangers :cool: .

Goes to show you can still retain sense of integrity making hip-hop and still make that shit appealing to the mass. Def gonna cope this, Lupe Fiasco's and Joe Buddens( i pray its worth it :( ).

Gunplay

26-05-2005, 02:41

Goes to show you can still retain sense of integrity making hip-hop and still make that shit appealing to the mass.
I agree, though nowadays I don't give a dogs bollocks about the masses. The masses are what declined hip hop music. If the music is appealing to me, I like it, simple as. I weep at those unlike you and me, who need MTV to guide and develop their musical tastes.

Ogopa Djz

26-05-2005, 02:46

I agree, though nowadays I don't give a dogs bollocks about the masses. The masses are what declined hip hop music. If the music is appealing to me, I like it, simple as. I weep at those unlike you and me, who need MTV to guide and develop their musical tastes.

LOL.Would be insanely funny if it wasn't true. Those who depend on MTV (In Gplays words) " to guide and develop their musical taste are deprived of the actual real hip-hop. The only good thing about the masses is they have wallets which contain greenbacks that put food on artists plates, other than that fuck em.

Gunplay

26-05-2005, 02:50

The only good thing about the masses is they have wallets which contain greenbacks that put food on artists plates, other than that fuck em.
Well said, though the wrong kind of artist are getting too much food on their plates, if you ask me. The real artist are the ones starving, who I actually go out and try to support with my greenbacks.

Ogopa Djz

26-05-2005, 02:55

Well said, though the wrong kind of artist are getting too much food on their plates, if you ask me. The real artist are the ones starving, who I actually go out and try to support with my greenbacks.

Nelly, Diddy, 50 yes the list is endless. Yeah looking at the list of authentic artists Talib, Common, Afu Ra, Royce , the very underrated AZ you are oh so right. But would you like Talib if he was earning and getting as much airtime as 50? :rolleyes:

Edit- (Very offtopic)Where have you been. Havent heard from you in a while??

Gunplay

26-05-2005, 03:03

Edit- (Very offtopic)Where have you been. Havent heard from you in a while??
I have been nursing a destroyed arm. Also been overwhelmed by life's working phase.

I'm back though, almost.

Ontopic:
What you think of Jin deciding to quit all of a sudden?

Ogopa Djz

26-05-2005, 03:07

I have been nursing a destroyed arm. Also been overwhelmed by life's working phase.

I'm back though, almost.

Ontopic:
What you think of Jin deciding to quit all of a sudden?

Sudden is an understatment. Just yesterday i was watching him on 106 and Park kill dudes on Freestyle Friday and all of sudden he decides to quit??? Very strange the whole commercial aspect of hip-hop must have got to him. He will be missed, though lets hope his definition of retire is that of Jay-z.....

Ogopa Djz

04-06-2005, 03:31

Yezzur summers here. Cant wait for the new albums dropping.

Lupe Fiasco-Food and Liquor
Joe Budden-The Growth
Little Brother-The Chitlin Circuit
Jae Millz- Back to the Future
Juelz Sanatana-What the Game's Been Missing
Cassidy-Im a Hustla
Peedi Crack-( 6 years in the making might, drop this summer)
Kanye West- Late Registration
Freeway-??????
DMX-?????
Consequence-The Cleaners

Gunplay

04-06-2005, 20:05

Let's not forget Bizarre's Hannicap Circus :laugh: .

Seriously though, Chitlin Circuit 1.5 should be a treat. A good appetiser for their official release of The Minstrel Show come September 2005.

Ogopa Djz

04-06-2005, 21:21

Let's not forget Bizarre's Hannicap Circus :laugh: .

Seriously though, Chitlin Circuit 1.5 should be a treat. A good appetiser for their official release of The Minstrel Show come September 2005.

I could be wrong but i heard Minstrel Show was gonna be a double disk bout 30 joints on there. :ohmy:

Gunplay

04-06-2005, 21:25

I could be wrong but i heard Minstrel Show was gonna be a double disk bout 30 joints on there. :ohmy:
Wow! The amount of 9th Wonder bangers? I hope it's true mate. But who wouldn't? :D

Ogopa Djz

04-06-2005, 21:57

Wow! The amount of 9th Wonder bangers? I hope it's true mate. But who wouldn't? :D

Look. http://www.undergroundhiphop.com/store/detail.asp?Cty=&UPC=6HO12CD

Not the Minstrel Show but wow.

Gunplay

04-06-2005, 22:31

Look. http://www.undergroundhiphop.com/store/detail.asp?Cty=&UPC=6HO12CD

Not the Minstrel Show but wow.
That is class. Though most of that stuff is well dated. Phonte is just quality, I'd recommend anything by him.

simmsm88

05-06-2005, 01:13

GZA is releasing a new album this year aswell on Babygrande. The best wu-tang member lyrically bar-none, I praise Liquid Swordz. I pray that he doesn't fall off like most (if not all) of the other wu emcees.

Ogopa Djz

05-06-2005, 01:23

I pray that he doesn't fall off like most (if not all) of the other wu emcees.

Method man. :(

Ogopa Djz

05-06-2005, 03:38

Can anybody tell me what biggie song this line came from (im a having a brain lapse)

"Picture me being scared of a nigga that breathes the same air as me"

Thanks in advance.

Ogopa Djz

12-06-2005, 05:28

Can anybody tell me what biggie song this line came from (im a having a brain lapse)

"Picture me being scared of a nigga that breathes the same air as me"

Thanks in advance.

Figured it out.

By the way New AZ Album on the way. I heard a few tracks of there and i must say AZ is back. Every Hip-Hop lover should cope that and The Chitlin Circuit 1.5. Yezzur its gonna be a hot suummmaa. :laugh:

simmsm88

15-06-2005, 04:10

Figured it out.

By the way New AZ Album on the way. I heard a few tracks of there and i must say AZ is back. Every Hip-Hop lover should cope that and The Chitlin Circuit 1.5. Yezzur its gonna be a hot suummmaa. :laugh:
Hopefully.

Cormega's been working with premier so I really expect his to be some top shit. He even got KRS-1 to feature on a song.

Here's a rumored tracklisting for Nas's new album - NASDAQ JONES

Source:
http://www.nobodysmiling.com/hiphop/news/84301.php
Word on the street is that the new studio album entitled "NASDAQ Dow Jones" may be released as early as this summer.

Nas is known for dropping albums in the late fall and winter and years apart at times so rumors of the summer relase of a new album may be premature. Heres the new tracklist circulating the internet at this time:

Nas - NASDAQ Dow Jones Album Tracklist unofficial

01. Wake Up New York (Intro)
02. Bullet X
03. What's Good NY
04. We Were Gangstas (featuring Scarface)
05. Mexico
06. QB Savages (featuring Bravehearts)
07. Polo and Guess
08. Unauthorized Biography of KRS-ONE
09. The Nasty One
10. Seed of Sekou
11. Legendary
12. Rebel to America
13. Hallie Selassie
14. Moon (featuring Kelis)
15. Talk of NY - (bonus track)

I already have the Talk of New York song. That leaked a long time ago. It's pretty good but nothing spectactular that will blow you away. I'll upload it some time. I can already tell track 6 is going to be skipper.

Gunplay

15-06-2005, 04:37

The tracklsit is questionable. That track with Scarface better be real. Also I do believe he did mention making an ''Unauthorized Biography of KRS-ONE''.
Who knows?

I seriously can't wait for Kanye West's ''Late Registration''. Lets hope he can match his debut.

The abundance of albums due this summer are promising.

wrigh2uk

16-06-2005, 00:05

^ Ye nas did say the next U.B would be of KRS - One , the wake up show freestyle is ill heard it awhile back, this album should be nice though, apprently eminems releasing aa new album end of Decemeber called the Funeral - double disk

Singh

16-06-2005, 19:55

Happy birthday tupac :)

wrigh2uk

17-06-2005, 13:54

Hey u all saw the new video for Kanye West - Diamonds , gotta be one of the best videos ever, it gives me the same shivers from when i first saw if heavens got a ghetto video, really good video , guess hes takin a guess from the Roots and he ain't doing what they do - trust me check the video out should be on msn videos

pz

Gunplay

23-06-2005, 02:53

Gunplay

15-07-2005, 20:19

It's been a while. Though I have found the future of hiphop music...

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5980/slumvillageelzhi0ad.jpg

wrigh2uk

15-07-2005, 21:53

the slum village guy ?

Gun_Runner

15-07-2005, 21:56

Not particularly a fan of Kanye's rapping-but as a producer hes good...shall take a look at the video though. www.musicvideocodes.com - classic site.

Gunplay

15-07-2005, 22:53

the slum village guy ?
Indeed.

His name is Elzhi, superb rapper.

Gun_Runner

16-07-2005, 01:36

Man, i think its ashame that a lot of good rappers go un-noticed or are underhyped...great example, Common-Ive been listening to some of his material recently and its super! Especially the song I Used To Love H.E.R.....song is off the chain! there are many rappers like that ... AZ, Scarface..

Gunplay

16-07-2005, 14:15

Funny news here:

''The Detroit Free Press reported that Mather’s latest album Encore will be his last release. Insiders told the paper that the rapper has been planning on retiring to concentrate on production and other ventures.''

He should've done this way before his latest album.

Gun_Runner

16-07-2005, 16:40

I think The Marshall Mathers LP & The Eminem Show were his best albums....Encore is far too cheesy to be seen as a great album.

wrigh2uk

17-07-2005, 17:05

Marshal mathers and slim shady died after his second album and eminem took over, and as for him producing , hahaha what must doc dre say when he hears an em beat seriously

Gun_Runner

18-07-2005, 03:44

hes still a great artist and one of my favourite, but seriously man...he has to take a look at himself....hes dropping songs like Just Lose It, Ass Like That....its not even hip-hop anymore.!

codename 47

19-07-2005, 15:36

Anyone heard the latest round of beef between (the) game and G-Unit ?

i recommend going over to mixtapeking.com and look for the latest Game mixtape and he's dissing everyone from G-Unit mainly 50 :cool:
and he refers to them as 'G-U-not'
But so far 50 and company are yet to answer back :mellow:

Gun_Runner

19-07-2005, 16:46

The Game & 50 have fell out before, wonder if its final this time... Yukmouth was saying he wwould never trust Game and saying hes a backstabber and shit like that....read it on a website about rappers' beefs..

Singh

19-07-2005, 16:53

Oh you lot refering to Game 300 bars, mixed by Dj Ski. Olivias a man :laugh: and 50 cent reminds me of spongebob. :D

Gun_Runner

19-07-2005, 16:56

Oh you lot refering to Game 300 bars, mixed by Dj Ski. Olivias a man :laugh: and 50 cent reminds me of spongebob. :D

Game needs 50 Cent in a sense I think....How We Do & Hate It Or Love It had 50 appearing in them and I think that helped them sell....

codename 47

19-07-2005, 19:14

You should see he little booklet of the CD its got the G-Unit crew dressed up as the village people :lol:
Game's also re-done 'hate it or love it' with him basically taking over 50's bits but using the same lyrics but he's twisted them up so he's dissing 50 quite bad :mellow:

One bit is in the lead up to games bit he says 'thats enough of the F****** its time for game :ohmy:

Papa Lazarou

19-07-2005, 19:17

Game's also re-done 'hate it or love it' with him basically taking over 50's bits but using the same lyrics but he's twisted them up so he's dissing 50 quite bad :mellow:

One bit is in the lead up to games bit he says 'thats enough of the F****** its time for game :ohmy:

Ooh he's a hard nut aint he!!

Gun_Runner

19-07-2005, 19:36

Why bother ocming on this thread-you probably dont like hip-hop!

Papa Lazarou

19-07-2005, 19:56

Why bother ocming on this thread-you probably dont like hip-hop!

True i don't! I just was a bit bored

Hunter

19-07-2005, 19:59

300 Bars isn't a bad track, its just too long. I know its 300 Bars but half of it is just irrelevant in terms of a 'Diss' track.

Gun_Runner

19-07-2005, 20:47

True i don't! I just was a bit bored

Why come on and diss on it then, when this is a thread for people who like and want to talk sense about hip-hop....

PS. please change your sig.it looks quite weird n doesnt say much for you.

Gary G

19-07-2005, 20:51

Why come on and diss on it then, when this is a thread for people who like and want to talk sense about hip-hop....

PS. please change your sig.it looks quite weird n doesnt say much for you.

Whoever made his sig also needs to learn how to spell the word 'buy'.

Gun_Runner

19-07-2005, 20:54

What has that got to do with anything? what you on about..

Gary G

19-07-2005, 20:59

What has that got to do with anything? what you on about..

http://img157.echo.cx/img157/4452/covers15nk.png

You mentioned how his sig was weird and doesn't say much for him, and I was just saying it contains a spelling error asewll, which makes it look even worse.

Papa Lazarou

19-07-2005, 21:01

Oh shit i just saw the spelling mistake

im gonna have 2 talk to the guy who made it

Gun_Runner

19-07-2005, 21:03

Aww right Gary G never knew what you were on about there lol...soz my apologies.

Gunplay

25-07-2005, 18:37

Finally Nas has replied to Fiddy. And what a reply it is.

Gun_Runner

25-07-2005, 22:13

Whats the reply?

Gary G

26-07-2005, 01:49

http://lib.store.yahoo.com/lib/mixtapesusa/jiggahittinggirl.gif

Jay-Z dealing with someone who doesn't seem to appreciate his music.

Gun_Runner

26-07-2005, 03:54

That looks like a woman hes hitting, anyway, wonder what that was about?

Gunplay

27-07-2005, 06:44

http://lib.store.yahoo.com/lib/mixtapesusa/jiggahittinggirl.gif

Jay-Z dealing with someone who doesn't seem to appreciate his music.
I'll defend Jay-Z on that one.

Believe me that is a manipulative clip. The woman he is hitting is an employee at Roc-A-Fella Records (his record label) who he regards as family. It was all done in humour. Also in the clip you can see some other fellow laughing, that's Jaz-O the man that discovered Jay-Z, who is enjoying the act. Nobody in the scene seems shocked either.

I remember reading a statement ages ago, by Jay-Z and the lady cancelling out the accusations. The clip is also featured in a Tour documentary released by Jay-Z himself, now I doubt anyone will be stupid enough to do that, had it been a proper assault.

Gun_Runner

27-07-2005, 16:18

the guy at his right is looking at Jay-Z and smiling as if to say...yo dude wtf you doing? he dont look too pleased with Jay, but Gunplay read about it and knows what happened so I guess hes right.

Hunter

27-07-2005, 16:28

All I am saying is that Jay's face looks quite irritated and angry as hes doing it, I can't really see anyone laughing much.

Gunplay

28-07-2005, 01:28

All I am saying is that Jay's face looks quite irritated and angry as hes doing it, I can't really see anyone laughing much.
Why would I defend an assaulter? Especially one that is assaulting a female?

The clip is false, you can keep opposing despite the woman herself supporting Jay-Z instead of sueing him for millions. End of this nonsense, it's old news anyway.

On a more pleasant note. Has anybody heard the collaboration between Talib Kweli and MF Doom on his latest installation? Superb stuff.

Gun_Runner

28-07-2005, 03:35

No, Talib is good talent though, enjoy some of his tracks :D

BTW is Jay-Z marrying Beyonce, or are they already married or what?

Gunplay

28-07-2005, 06:36

BTW is Jay-Z marrying Beyonce, or are they already married or what?
Despite that having nothing to do with hiphop music. I can say that they're not, Beyonce rhymes with Fiancée though.

Gun_Runner

28-07-2005, 12:28

Are they just shagging then or what, coz I've heard rumours they were engaged n all that kinda shit.

Hunter

28-07-2005, 12:50

Are they just shagging then or what, coz I've heard rumours they were engaged n all that kinda shit.

Beyonce rhymes with Fiancée though.
:rolleyes:

Gun_Runner

28-07-2005, 12:53

Oh right..soz I'm always that slow, its in my nature!

simmsm88

29-07-2005, 17:55

On a more pleasant note. Has anybody heard the collaboration between Talib Kweli and MF Doom on his latest installation? Superb stuff.
The whole album is fantastic. Doom is really making a name for himself now. I can't wait to her the Ghosface and Doom album now.

wrigh2uk

29-07-2005, 18:46

anyone of you heard the advance copy of dmx's new album sounds pretty gud frm wat i've heard

Gun_Runner

29-07-2005, 23:11

Nope whats it called?

Gunplay

29-07-2005, 23:58

The whole album is fantastic. Doom is really making a name for himself now. I can't wait to her the Ghosface and Doom album now.
I don't know. I'm not into Doom's persona music stuff. Some tracks he's made have come to my liking for sure. I think he's incredibly overrated though.

Gunplay

30-07-2005, 00:00

anyone of you heard the advance copy of dmx's new album sounds pretty gud frm wat i've heard
Fake.

Papa Lazarou

30-07-2005, 00:03

You guys should listen to some proper music like Kind of Blue by Miles Davis. Now THAT'S an album

Singh

30-07-2005, 00:05

You guys should listen to some proper music like Kind of Blue by Miles Davis. Now THAT'S an album

oh yea miles davis i like the doo bop song.

Gunplay

30-07-2005, 00:14

You guys should listen to some proper music like Kind of Blue by Miles Davis. Now THAT'S an album
Please DO NOT try educate me on some Miles Davis. Don't even go there my friend :cool: .

Papa Lazarou

30-07-2005, 00:23

Please DO NOT try educate me on some Miles Davis. Don't even go there my friend :cool: .

why not??? He's amazing!!

Seriously everyone should check him out

Gunplay

30-07-2005, 00:27

Did you not detect me already being keen with Miles Davis, on my previous post?

wrigh2uk

31-07-2005, 23:03

Fake.

sure its fake

Esir2k4

01-08-2005, 03:46

Anybody here listen to Little Brother or The Away Team. Coz thats some real hiphop. Also Saigon and is one of the realest rappers out there.

50!

01-08-2005, 03:54

why not??? He's amazing!!

Seriously everyone should check him out

Honestly, fuck off.

I am not a hardcore rap fan but I'm partial to some of it and this thread contains some interesting, informative posts at times. Why are you trying to rack up a music debate when there have been so many in the past. If you want to discuss Hip Hop music then post here sensibly, if not fuck off.

Gun_Runner

01-08-2005, 14:18

well said 50! why are people saying the new DMX album is fake or something? did I miss sumit?

gari

02-08-2005, 16:04

Doesanyone here know Pete Philly and Perquite?

Gunplay

02-08-2005, 18:37

Doesanyone here know Pete Philly and Perquite?
Not enough. Care to enlighten me?

Papa Lazarou

02-08-2005, 20:12

Has anyone heard the new Goldie Lookin' Chain song 'Your Missus Is A Nutter' ? It's amazing!! I love that band they are hillarious!!

Hunter

02-08-2005, 21:18

Has anyone heard the new Goldie Lookin' Chain song 'Your Missus Is A Nutter' ? It's amazing!! I love that band they are hillarious!!

This is a Hip Hop Thread. :)

You might consider them Hip Hop but I don't, they are awful to be honest.

Juan gerard

02-08-2005, 21:18

i dont want to insult peoples interests and opinions but what do you like about hip-hop? i really dont like it but im interested in why people do

Gunplay

02-08-2005, 21:46

i dont want to insult peoples interests and opinions but what do you like about hip-hop? i really dont like it but im interested in why people do
The intense kind of aspiration that comes from having little. About holding and rhyming into a microphone. Mixing and scratching. Guns, pain, blood. Desire, desperation, truth, true love. Art, mystery and metaphor. The singularity of voice. The magnificence of ingenious sampling. The glory of a beat created by Dre or Timbaland or-God bless him-DJ Premier of Gangstarr.

gari

02-08-2005, 22:00

Not enough. Care to enlighten me?

Oops sorry for the spelling error,it's Pete Philly & Perquisite they are dutch but have released their english album Mindstate! worldwide.
It's chill hiphop, sometimes even a bit of jazzy. So don't expect Where da hood at kind of rap. There are a lot of relax songs on the album, but also some uptempo beats. Perfect songs when u r blitzed :innocent:

Soms reccomended songs:
Pete Philly & Perquisite -
Insomnia
Hope ft. Talib Kweli!!! everyone respect that man!!
Mindstate
Pussylounge

SObe sureto check out: Pete Philly & Perquisite - album: Mindstate

Gunplay

02-08-2005, 22:02

When was ''Mindstate'' released? This year?

Esir2k4

03-08-2005, 02:05

Litlle Brother- The Minstrel Show. Forget all the other albums. Since my older bro put me on them , i cant stop listening to them. :wub:

gari

03-08-2005, 12:28

When was ''Mindstate'' released? This year?

Yes.

Gunplay

04-08-2005, 16:04

This morning while sorting out a mess. I happened to stumble across one of my favourites albums ever Xzibit's ''Restless''. An underrrated classic. That I would recommend to anybody with even the least of Rap music interest. If you haven't heard it, please do.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8360/xzibit3fq.jpg

The production is flawless. With Dr. Dre, Battlecat, DJ Quik, Rockwilder and Erick Sermon to boast. Exemplifies Westcoast hiphop.
The album is almost 5 years old, when Xzibit was at his peak, sadly today he's descended to a high low.

Level6

04-08-2005, 16:13

Litlle Brother- The Minstrel Show. Forget all the other albums. Since my older bro put me on them , i cant stop listening to them. :wub:

I'm feeling that song, "Ain't nobody"....they've also got a song...can't remeber the name but it's produced by 9'nt wonder.

Gunplay

04-08-2005, 16:17

Ithey've also got a song...can't remeber the name but it's produced by 9'nt wonder.
9th Wonder is a part of Little Brother. All their songs are likely to be produced by him or Khrysis a young producer of great potential.

Level6

04-08-2005, 16:31

9th Wonder is a part of Little Brother. All their songs are likely to be produced by him or Khrysis a young producer of great potential.

Okay.....swear he is the one who also produced for Jay-Z.

Gunplay

04-08-2005, 16:38

Okay.....swear he is the one who also produced for Jay-Z.
Yes. What i'm saying is 9th Wonder is a part of Little Brother. LB consist of 3 people, 2 rappers (Phonte & Big Pooh) and 1 producer (9th Wonder). So saying he produced a track for them is weird. That's what he's meant to do.
He also produces for loads of artists ala Jay-Z's ''Threat''.

Gun_Runner

05-08-2005, 03:20

Did anyone buy Nas - Illmatic the platinum edition(10 years on)(2004)

Few bonus remixed tracks on it....album is a classic, Nas=pure lyrical genius :D

Gunplay

05-08-2005, 09:46

Did anyone buy Nas - Illmatic the platinum edition(10 years on)(2004)
Yes. ''Star Wars'' is class.

Hunter

05-08-2005, 10:56

I too have that album actually, got it for my birthday. Actually my birthday is technically tomorrow but since I'm going away for a bit I got my presents yesterday. :)

Great album, really glad I got it.

Esir2k4

05-08-2005, 11:51

Yes. What i'm saying is 9th Wonder is a part of Little Brother. LB consist of 3 people, 2 rappers (Phonte & Big Pooh) and 1 producer (9th Wonder). So saying he produced a track for them is weird. That's what he's meant to do.
He also produces for loads of artists ala Jay-Z's ''Threat''.

Kyhrsis and 9th are some of my fav producers. Cant wait for that "Triple Play" album (Lil Bro, Away Team and L.E.G.A.C.Y).

Gun_Runner

05-08-2005, 12:50

Yes. ''Star Wars'' is class.

Sure is....love the track.

Level6

05-08-2005, 13:14

50 Mocks Fat Joe, Jadakiss, Game, Nas In 'Piggy Bank' Video

For a record considered to be just a warning shot, 50 Cent's "Piggy Bank" continues to have the largest ripple effect of any rap song this year. Last week Nas finally responded to the cut, and this week 50 issued a video mixtape that includes a full-length clip for the song.

The video is animated and starts with three boys walking down "Beaver Street" when one of them stops at an arcade. The kid is infatuated with a game called "Rapper Knockout," which stars 50 Cent as a ring king beating opponents to a pulp. The video then takes a look inside the video game as 50 squares off against Fat Joe. The animated Joe is afraid to go the ring at first, and gets pummeled when he finally enters.

The same fate holds true for an animated Jadakiss, which Fif imagines dressed up like a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle — complete with Raphael's red mask and a slice of pizza — wearing a belt with a buckle that says "Jada."

Later, 50 depicts Game as a Mr. Potato Head doll with a "Wanksta" headband and Cassidy as a young kid wearing a pink hoodie with "I'm a Hustler" embroidered on it. Cass gets punched in the stomach by two kids. In a separate scene, another kid is seen wearing Superman's tights and cape while running down the street. Instead of the Man of Steel's S, he has a red logo of Nas' name on his chest and is chasing a "Milkshake" truck before jumping at the vehicle and falling flat on his face. "Piggy Bank" is one of 21 videos slated to be included in a special-edition reissue of The Massacre, which is due on September 6 including "Gunz Come Out," in which plenty of heavy artillery will be brandished, and "In My Hood," which shows Fif waking through the neighborhood.

50 has a real video game called "Bulletproof," which has nothing to do with his rap beef, due on November 15. This coming Tuesday 50 will release his autobiography, "From Pieces to Weight." In the meantime, Fif continues to travel the country as part of the Anger Management 3 Tour. He'll perform for the first time at Madison Square Garden in his hometown on Monday and Tuesday.

Gun_Runner

05-08-2005, 15:07

Why is 50 beefing with Cassidy? and why did all the beef start with Nas,Jada & Fat Joe?

and did the Ja Rule beef only start because of the stabbing incident or was there something before that?

Gunplay

05-08-2005, 18:59

50 Mocks Fat Joe, Jadakiss, Game, Nas In 'Piggy Bank' Video

The video is animated and starts with three boys walking down "Beaver Street" when one of them stops at an arcade. The kid is infatuated with a game called "Rapper Knockout," which stars 50 Cent as a ring king beating opponents to a pulp. The video then takes a look inside the video game as 50 squares off against Fat Joe. The animated Joe is afraid to go the ring at first, and gets pummeled when he finally enters.

The same fate holds true for an animated Jadakiss, which Fif imagines dressed up like a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle — complete with Raphael's red mask and a slice of pizza — wearing a belt with a buckle that says "Jada."

Later, 50 depicts Game as a Mr. Potato Head doll with a "Wanksta" headband and Cassidy as a young kid wearing a pink hoodie with "I'm a Hustler" embroidered on it. Cass gets punched in the stomach by two kids. In a separate scene, another kid is seen wearing Superman's tights and cape while running down the street. Instead of the Man of Steel's S, he has a red logo of Nas' name on his chest and is chasing a "Milkshake" truck before jumping at the vehicle and falling flat on his face. "Piggy Bank" is one of 21 videos slated to be included in a special-edition reissue of The Massacre, which is due on September 6 including "Gunz Come Out," in which plenty of heavy artillery will be brandished, and "In My Hood," which shows Fif waking through the neighborhood.

Sounds absolutely hilarious :laugh: .

Level6

05-08-2005, 20:40

Why is 50 beefing with Cassidy?

Cassidy was dissing him on his video B-Boy Stance.

gari

06-08-2005, 23:08

i think jay and nas sohuld stop the beef and make a great lp together!

Magpie4eva

06-08-2005, 23:14

Anyone heard of The Last Emporer, Atmosphere or Immortal Technique?

I think they are all class

Gun_Runner

06-08-2005, 23:22

i think jay and nas sohuld stop the beef and make a great lp together!

Honestly cant see it happening mate ..although yeah it would be good to see!

gari

06-08-2005, 23:37

yeah Nas thinks Jay is too much brag n boast (dirt of your shoulder e.g) while Nas thinks that you should educate and direct youths (I can e.g) evne though they used to be 'friends' (i think, correct if im wrong)

I think Ether is dope by the way:)

Gun_Runner

06-08-2005, 23:38

Ether is definetely 'dope' :D

gari

06-08-2005, 23:41

:P Anyone here know Who Got Gunz ? Fat Joe ans Gangstarr, 1st verse originaly by b.i.g which is the coolest one.

Gunplay

07-08-2005, 00:30

i think jay and nas sohuld stop the beef and make a great lp together!
The fact Jay-Z shagged Nas' ex-wife whilst he was married to her, leading to them divorcing, cancels out any chance of that ever happening.

Anyone heard of The Last Emporer, Atmosphere or Immortal Technique?

I think they are all class
Only Immortal, he's too ignorant for anyone to call him class.

Gun_Runner

07-08-2005, 00:41

who was his ex wife? anyone famous....shit I know nothing lol.

Gunplay

07-08-2005, 00:52

who was his ex wife? anyone famous....shit I know nothing lol.
Some lady called Carmen. She was also judged to have had an affair with the flamboyant famous basketballer, Allen Iverson.

Jay-Z even mentioned it in his freestyle ''Superugly'', a frustrated immediate response to ''Ether'':

''Me and the boy AI got more in common
Than just balling and rhyming get it? More in Carmen
I came in your bentley backseat, skeeted in your jeep
Left condoms on your baby seat''

rondroid

07-08-2005, 13:55

Some lady called Carmen. She was also judged to have had an affair with the flamboyant famous basketballer, Allen Iverson.

Jay-Z even mentioned it in his freestyle ''Superugly'', a frustrated immediate response to ''Ether'':

''Me and the boy AI got more in common
Than just balling and rhyming get it? More in Carmen
I came in your bentley backseat, skeeted in your jeep
Left condoms on your baby seat''
i heard after this song jays mum called him up and told him stop making any more records directed at nas

Level6

08-08-2005, 13:33

Anyone seen 50's new video. The "Outta Control" remix, with Mobb Deep and M.O.P.

They are all wearing t-shirts with "Game Over" written on them lol.

Level6

08-08-2005, 15:26

lol here is the piggybank video by 50 Cent:

http://rapidshare.de/files/3703413/50fullpiggybank.avi.html

EDIT: Link back up

50!

08-08-2005, 16:38

That link doesn't work for me. :(

Gun_Runner

08-08-2005, 16:49

Nor me....Yeh I heard the thing about Allan Iverson & Nas' wife....feel a bit sorry for Nas now lol, how did he find out?

Gunplay

08-08-2005, 17:03

how did he find out?
What do you mean? Jay-Z clearly said it in the song.

Gun_Runner

08-08-2005, 17:05

No I know that, but did Nas know before Jay-Z released the song, or did Jay start the whole beef thing because of that coz weren't they supposed to be 'friends'

Gunplay

08-08-2005, 17:11

No I know that, but did Nas know before Jay-Z released the song, or did Jay start the whole beef thing because of that coz weren't they supposed to be 'friends'
Still confused. Nas did not know until Jay-Z revealed it on the song. Jay-Z started the battle as Nas was the last obstacle blocking him from dominance of the New York rap music scene.

Gun_Runner

08-08-2005, 17:33

Awryt sorry I thought they knew each other before the whole wife thing happened...cheers anyway, but Jay didnt conquer Nas :D

Gunplay

08-08-2005, 17:45

Awryt sorry I thought they knew each other before the whole wife thing happened...cheers anyway, but Jay didnt conquer Nas :D
They did know each other. Very well infact.

http://www.mtv.com/bands/n/nas/news_feature_012102/images/main.jpg

Before the feud.

gari

08-08-2005, 17:51

jay-z sohuld shut the fuck up nas is much better then him only jay is even more commercial.
i bet when nas was married he still fucked ho's

Gunplay

08-08-2005, 18:01

jay-z sohuld shut the fuck up nas is much better then him only jay is even more commercial.
i bet when nas was married he still fucked ho's
:laugh:

Nas is probably better than Jay-Z, but, not much better. Jay-Z is a great rapper, despite his commercial interest.

Level6

08-08-2005, 18:56

Nice to see Nas and Jay-Z chilling there :)

Anyway here is 50 Cent Piggy Bank video on YSI:

s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3TT9R0UYX72IV07HTRZ5 7PE24H

Also to use Rapishare you need to click on free and wait for the timer at the bottom (around 30 seconds) and the file name will come up and then you click on it to download.

Magpie4eva

08-08-2005, 19:23

Anyone seen 50's new video. The "Outta Control" remix, with Mobb Deep and M.O.P.

They are all wearing t-shirts with "Game Over" written on them lol.

Yeah its well funny...The songs good as well!

Esir2k4

09-08-2005, 02:39

jay-z sohuld shut the fuck up nas is much better then him only jay is even more commercial.
i bet when nas was married he still fucked ho's

LOL. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: ......Wait :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :

Henry100

09-08-2005, 02:41

Takeover is better then Ether, no matter what uneducated people say

Esir2k4

09-08-2005, 02:48

Takeover is better then Ether, no matter what uneducated people say

Thank you.

Esir2k4

09-08-2005, 02:50

I know you missin all the - FAAAAAAAME!
But along with celebrity comes bout seventy shots to your frame
Nigga; you a - LAAAAAAAME!
Youse the fag model for Karl Kani/Esco ads
Went from, Nasty Nas to Esco's trash
Had a spark when you started but now you're just garbage
Fell from top ten to not mentioned at all
to your bodyguard's "Oochie Wally" verse better than yours
Matter fact you had the worst flow on the whole fuckin song
but I know - the sun don't shine, then son don't shine
That's why your - LAAAAAAAME! - career come to a end
There's only so long fake thugs can pretend
Nigga; you ain't live it you witnessed it from your folks pad
You scribbled in your notepad and created your life
I showed you your first tec on tour with Large Professor
(Me, that's who!) Then I heard your album bout your tec on the dresser
So yeah I sampled your voice, you was usin it wrong
You made it a hot line, I made it a hot song
And you ain't get a coin nigga you was gettin fucked and
I know who I paid God, Serchlite Publishing
Use your - BRAAAAAAAIN! You said you been in this ten
I've been in it five - smarten up Nas
Four albums in ten years nigga? I can divide
That's one every let's say two, two of them shits was due
One was - NAHHH, the other was "Illmatic"
That's a one hot album every ten year average
And that's so - LAAAAAAAME! Nigga switch up your flow
Your shit is garbage, but you try and kick knowledge?
(Get the fuck outta here) You niggaz gon' learn to respect the king
Don't be the next contestant on that Summer Jam screen
Because you know who (who) did you know what (what)
with you know who (yeah) but just keep that between me and you for now

THE TAKEOVER

Esir2k4

09-08-2005, 02:52

What you think, you gettin girls now 'cause of your looks?
Ne-gro please
You no mustache havin, with whiskers like a rat
Compared to Beans you wack
And your man stabbed Un and made you take the blame
You ass, went from Jaz to hangin with Kane, to Irv, to Big
And, Eminem murdered you on your own shit
You a dick-ridin faggot, you love the attention
Queens niggas run you niggas, ask Russell Simmons
Ha, R-O-C get gunned up and clapped quick
J.J. Evans get gunned up and clapped quick
Your whole damn record label gunned up and clapped quick
Shaun Carter to Jay-Z, damn you on Jaz dick
So little shorty's gettin gunned up and clapped quick
How much of Biggie's rhymes is gon' come out your fat lips?
Wanted to be on every last one of my classics
You pop shit, apologize, nigga, just ask Kiss

ETHER

Henry100

09-08-2005, 03:23

Both each had humerous moments, its just that takeover had the harder hitting personals

"So yeah I sampled your voice, you was usin it wrong
You made it a hot line, I made it a hot song"

^ Like that and..

"Nigga; you ain't live it you witnessed it from your folks pad
You scribbled in your notepad and created your life"

methical

09-08-2005, 15:24

i agree, either is great but the takover is class and puts nas to shame, nas called him ugly but made a good song anyway

i heard the game 300 bar aswell, brilliant mc, that must be really hard to do 300 bars nonstop the way he did

GGG G UNOT

Henry100

09-08-2005, 18:29

^It was pre-written and was probably done after the 1st time Game and 50 fell out

Gunplay

09-08-2005, 19:51

So those who think ''Ether'' is better than ''Takeover'' (like myself) are automatically uneducated, thus lacking knowledge of this music genre?

Pfft!

Both tracks are class, but I felt the Nas' delivery on Ether was just incredible. It catapulted his career, which was on the life support machine at the time.

And don't even try to give me that, ''Jay-Z had more facts'' crap that I hear from some people.

Aren't these facts?

''How much of Biggie's rhymes is gon' come out your fat lips?''
How many phrases has Jigga copied from Biggie?

''went from Jaz to hangin with Kane, to Irv, to Big
And, Eminem murdered you on your own shit''
Jay-Z symbolises himself as an individual, making routes rather than following them, yet he has had various guardians, Jaz-O, Big Daddy Kane, Irv Gotti, Biggie, all made him what he is today.
Also ''Renegade'' one of the greatest rap songs ever, Eminem's participation overshadows that of Jay-Z's.

''Queens niggas run you niggas, ask Russell Simmons''
The founder and owner of Def Jam records at the time was Mr Simmons. Who is from Queensbridge, same Borough as Nasir, so he was basically saying, at the end of the day, you are owned, and not by a random person, but a fellow friend of mine from my area.

Henry100

09-08-2005, 20:20

I didnt say you were uneducated about rap :|

IMO Ether is very overated. Dont get me wrong, i think its an excellent diss record, but takeover was better, again IMO

I wont disagree, Nas came hard on Ether and had that rawness, but I think that Jiggas personals took it

ozzie66

10-08-2005, 12:17

See That is what people dont realise. The automatically think nas killed jay-z on ether without listening to the takeover. Both tracks were almost at the same level, but nas did win it. That is because jay-z chose to diss mobb deep also on the track.

Anyways for people who love the underground hip-hop, look out for a guy called J-Live

Cadbury

10-08-2005, 14:01

I'm not in on the whole hip hop scene, in fact I hate most hip hop songs, but does anyone remember the song "Public Enemy - He Got Game"? Because to be honest it's one of the best songs ever. Just seeing if anyone remembers it, since no-one I know does. :tongue:

methical

10-08-2005, 15:34

i havnt heard that song in years but it is an all time classic, public enemy are great

Gunplay

10-08-2005, 15:36

Gunplay

10-08-2005, 15:40

but nas did win it. That is because jay-z chose to diss mobb deep also on the track.
Jay-Z performed it infront of a sell out crowd at the biggest hiphop event of the year ''Summerjam''.
Nas replied a month later, with all odds against him as Jay-Z left the crowd cheering his name as supreme and the opposite for Nas.

Level6

12-08-2005, 19:29

What did Nas mean when he said he thought 50 a lot......on the MTV Base interview with Trevor Nelson?

Level6

12-08-2005, 21:11

Lloyd Banks, Young Buck Arrested After Anger Management Tour Stop In New York

Lloyd Banks and Young Buck were arrested after police allegedly found weapons in a van carrying the rappers and 11 other people as they were leaving the Anger Management 3 tour in New York this morning (August 9).

Reports stated that police pulled the van over for running a red light on 41st and Eighth Avenue in Manhattan.

Police reportedly found two firearms in the vehicle and subsequently arrested eleven passengers. Police allege they found a loaded .40 caliber and a .357 handgun on one of the passengers. Everyone in the vehicle was charged with weapons offenses.

Manager Sha Money XL confirmed with us that Lloyd Banks and Young Buck were arrested. He declined to comment any further.

"They told the crowd to put their fists in the air and then told the crowd to put up their middle finger," one concert goer told us. "Then they yelled out f**k the police and the crowd shouted it back."

The other men arrested ranged from age 20-41.

The NYPD's Intelligence Unit has spent the last few days checking the streets to see if any violence might be directed towards 50 Cent and G-Unit during their stop in New York.

With heavy police presence, the Anger Management concert went off without a hitch last night and will resume tonight.

Lloyd Banks, Young Buck, Mobb Deep, Olivia, Tony Yayo, M.O.P. 50 Cent, D12, Proof, Obie Trice, Stat Quo, Pitbull, Lil’ Jon and Lil’ Scrappy are also featured on the tour.

Gunplay

16-08-2005, 03:31

Has anybody heard Rising Son, Doc Brown & Yungun's reply to Common's racist remarks on his album?

Basically when I heard the track ''Real People'' by him. I was left scratching my head, unsure of what he meant. As he states:
''Black men walking with white girls on they arms
I be mad at them as if I know they moms
Told to go beyond the surface, a person's a person
When we lessen our women our condition seems to worsen''

Whether that was a straight ignorant pop at interracial relationships, which I believe it was now. Then how stupid and disappointing of Common.

Anyway. The reply to that is awesome, especially Yungun's verse. If you want it, I'll see if I can obtain.

Gun_Runner

16-08-2005, 10:41

Whats it called Gunplay...man you know your hip-hop alright! Common is a great lyricist IMO...I love the track, 'I Used to Love H.E.R'

Henry100

16-08-2005, 16:13

Can I Borrow A Dollar is a Common Sense classic, and I Used To Love H.E.R is also a very, very good track

Level6

16-08-2005, 18:16

Gunplay

17-08-2005, 00:07

I kinda agree with what Common is saying there....
What the? You agree that interracial relationships should be damned? That a person should have a relationship with someone based on the colour of their skin? You too are ignorant and disgust me.

but is Yungun white? going out whith a white lady or something?
Yungun's father is Nigerian, his mother is English. Go figure.

Common was basically insulting the likes of Yungun's father. For ''going beyond the surface''.

How disheartening. Especially from a person who is labelled a ''conscious'' rapper. A great one aswell.

ozzie66

17-08-2005, 02:37

ozzie66

17-08-2005, 02:41

An interview common made describing real people

Prefix Magazine: Can you take a second to describe who some of the people you describe on Be’s “Real People” are? What do they like? What do they do?
Common: Real people is [a] young black dude, 31, got kids, married, working for the … Chicago Transit Authority, maybe have another child by somebody else, taking care of his responsibilities. Real people is the dude who grew up on the South Side or in Birmingham and his mama passed away when he was young. He grew up with his grandmother. He wasn’t really into school -- was artistic -- and then ended up serving a little bit, went to jail for a little bit and got out. He trying to figure out what he wants to do with his life. Real people is the dude that grew up with his father and went away to college. It didn’t work out. He came back home and started hustling a little bit. Real people is the cat that grew up with just his mama and went away to Howard and ended up becoming a doctor. Those are real people to me.

ozzie66

17-08-2005, 02:46

Another explanation:

This whole album I’m either expressing my feelings or people I know who have lived the hustle or lived the blue collar life or lived the life of just trying to make it. I’m expressing their lives. That’s what “Real People” is about. It’s got a real jazzy sample produced by Kanye and it’s the last song we did for the album but man, I love it.

i believe now he his talking about people who have a problem with black men going out with white women and he using the view of the "hater". he is basically saying we schould look beyond the colour and look at the person. And that is why he says we should not lessen women

Hunter

17-08-2005, 12:20

Alcoholic

17-08-2005, 12:26

Finally Nas has replied to Fiddy. And what a reply it is.

Tis not that great. Just claims hes harder so dont start.

Gun_Runner

17-08-2005, 12:39

dont start what Lieutenant....Nas' reply is a good 'un, and Im eager to see what 50 Cent will(if he does) reply to that....I like 50 Cent but his rapping/lyrical skills dont come close to Nas'

Alcoholic

17-08-2005, 12:47

dont start what Lieutenant....Nas' reply is a good 'un, and Im eager to see what 50 Cent will(if he does) reply to that....I like 50 Cent but his rapping/lyrical skills dont come close to Nas'

They all say the same. The delivery is good but the lyrics are unorigional.

Henry100

17-08-2005, 13:20

^ Dont you think they say the same for a reason?

Please dont tell me you find 50 Cent to be original.

'C'mon mayne, you know how I shine' has to be the most common in a 50 Cent verse, and people been shining since 95

Gun_Runner

17-08-2005, 13:25

More hip-hop news :(:(

Eminem has cancelled his European dates for the Anger Management 3 tour ....this is a joke IMO....I was looking forward to seeing him in September but today on the radio I heard he'd cancelled the date's because 'hes tired'....this is very disappointing....the dates arent getting re-scheduled either :(

Im gutted because I saw him the last time he was in the UK and I also saw 50 Cent , I wa slooking forward to seeing them together as the last time 50 Cent missed two dates of the tour and one of them was in Glasgiw where I went!

Alcoholic

17-08-2005, 13:28

Gunplay

17-08-2005, 23:18

Tis not that great. Just claims hes harder so dont start.
Don't start? What exactly can I start?

Or are you voicing an opinion and shutting the door at anyone who tries to oppose it? Don't be so childish.

I thought the reply was good, beats ''Piggybank'' that's for sure. Which is what it is meant to do.

You don't think it's good, 2 opposite opinions, end of.

Gunplay

17-08-2005, 23:23

i believe now he his talking about people who have a problem with black men going out with white women and he using the view of the "hater". he is basically saying we schould look beyond the colour and look at the person. And that is why he says we should not lessen women
Don't defend him, please mate.

None of the evidence you have posted leads to him saying that he didn't mean what he said. I believe he meant it, otherwise why would 3 rappers of interracial heritage take offence? Yungun is a very intelligent rapper, for him to make a song about it is out of his nature. So he must've caught Common's drift.

Gunplay

17-08-2005, 23:42

It's not racism just a something that goes on in black communities especially in America. Basically it means that the majority of black men who have good jobs normally go for white women leaving black women with the black men without jobs. It is a bit of a myth as successful black men do marry black women but it is a bit true.
Like you said ''Myth''. Their are loads of myths like this that are incredibly ignorant, yet have some sense of reality to them.

Here is an example from another angle of the situation:

Within the Black community, the dedication, intelligence, and other qualities that make for success later in life, are not valued by Black women early in life.
So guys that are smart, or work hard, or don’t like to fight are looked upon as “sellouts”, “punks” and “nerds” by most Black women throughout adolescence and young adulthood.
Black women are attracted to 2pac and 50 Cent more than Colin Powell and Robert Johnson. So the type of Black guy that becomes successful in business or any other non-entertainment endeavor, has most likely been shit on by Black women so much before he made it, that he won’t let them jump on the bandwagon after the fact. Obviously, this one doesn’t apply to rappers and ballplayers, cause they are the ones getting all the attention from Black women when they are young.

Akineye

18-08-2005, 00:02

Robert Johnson the bluesman?

Gunplay

18-08-2005, 00:18

Aye. Though he can be considered an entertainer, not one in the spotlight ala rappers.

Akineye

18-08-2005, 00:26

He was adored by black chicks when he was making music lol

Plus if he'd lived longer he would have got the same shine as other blues artists

Gunplay

18-08-2005, 00:40

Plus if he'd lived longer he would have got the same shine as other blues artists
Alright shite example choosing Johnson. Though you do get what I mean, the rich black folks that aren't in the entertainment industry.

Alcoholic

18-08-2005, 08:24

Don't start? What exactly can I start?

Or are you voicing an opinion and shutting the door at anyone who tries to oppose it? Don't be so childish.

I thought the reply was good, beats ''Piggybank'' that's for sure. Which is what it is meant to do.

You don't think it's good, 2 opposite opinions, end of.

Obviously its just an opinion.

And yes it does beat Piggybank but 50 only mentioned Nas in a passing
way, insulted Kelis more than Nas.

Alcoholic

18-08-2005, 15:24

And how is my opinion childish? Just because I didnt put IMO at the end?

Gunplay

18-08-2005, 15:30

You said ''don't start''.

In a ''don't challenge me, I am the king of this planet'' way.

Alcoholic

18-08-2005, 15:49

You said ''don't start''.

In a ''don't challenge me, I am the king of this plant'' way.

I was referring to the Nas reply.

Gunplay

18-08-2005, 16:00

I was referring to the Nas reply.
Likewise.

You just wasted a whole post by stating the obvious. I even quoted you when I called you childish, wishing it had some affect, as you could see what I was referring to, I guess not.

Here is the quote again mate. Seen as you suffer a mild case of amnesia.
Tis not that great. Just claims hes harder so dont start.

Alcoholic

18-08-2005, 16:11

Likewise.

You just wasted a whole post by stating the obvious. I even quoted you when I called you childish, wishing it had some affect, as you could see what I was referring to, I guess not.

Here is the quote again mate. Seen as you suffer a mild case of amnesia.

Why attack me then?

Gunplay

18-08-2005, 16:16

Why attack me then?
I would like you to point out the assault, if their was even any.

And in the future, don't bother posting replies to posts you have not read clearly.

Cheers.

Alcoholic

18-08-2005, 16:27

I would like you to point out the assault, if their was even any.

And in the future, don't bother posting replies to posts you have not read clearly.

Cheers.

It is more of a defensive assault. He is using language to warn 50 off, he is not attacking him as such.

Gunplay

18-08-2005, 16:31

It is more of a defensive assault. He is using language to warn 50 off, he is not attacking him as such.
Now that's much more better than ''don't start''.

Alcoholic

18-08-2005, 17:07

Anyway is it on his new album?

Gun_Runner

18-08-2005, 20:10

What the Nas' 50 cent diss...or Piggy Bank by 50 cent?

Gunplay

19-08-2005, 14:17

http://www3.hmv.co.uk/hmv/Large_Images/HMV/PRERELCDKANYE.JPG

Just had a good listen to Kanye West's ''Late Registration'', and I must say, it is solid. The production is outstanding as expected.

The first track with Maroon 5's Adam Levine is beautiful.

Also I see why Ogopa Djz/Lupez Fiasco used to bang on about Lupe Fiasco, the guy is class on the momentous ''Touch The Sky'', I can't stop playing it.

The beat for ''We Major'' with Nas is crazy, something I've never heard before. Also Nas delivers, outshining Kanye.

Nice to see a re-mastered ''Hey Mama'' on it, sounds better than ever.

Though I would've liked The Game to have been rapping on ''Crack Music'', still an awesome track nonetheless.

Can't wait until 29th!

Level6

20-08-2005, 19:44

I got the new Kanye West Album on Thursday.....it's aiight not as good as the first album but still a good listen.

Gunplay

20-08-2005, 19:49

I got the new Kanye West Album on Thursday.....it's aiight not as good as the first album but still a good listen.
Really? I think it matches the first. Maybe I'm just liking the more soulful mood adopted for the sequel.

Gun_Runner

20-08-2005, 23:37

Dont particularly like Kanye, dont think hes up to much...especially after releasing shit like the Workout Plan.

#1ArsenalFan

21-08-2005, 00:35

I Don't Like Kanye West's style so much

but i must say his 1st album was very good

Gun_Runner is right about Workout Plan

its the most childish song ive ever heard

and people say Kanye can replace Jay-Z what morons

i slander VIBE magazine 100 percent for even suggestin that

Magpie4eva

21-08-2005, 01:13

I am gutted about missing the Eminem concert
Stupid moron with his crappy rehab.

Anyone like The games start from scratch ? Its wicked!

Gunplay

21-08-2005, 02:07

Dont particularly like Kanye, dont think hes up to much...especially after releasing shit like the Workout Plan.
What? Kanye is the most creative and original rapper to date. You say that, then I look at your avatar, and shake my head with disagreement.

As if the likes of Fiddy can even make tracks like ''Diamonds From Sierra Leone''.
If Mr West ain't up to much, then 50 Cent is stuck to the surface and unable to move.

Hunter

21-08-2005, 11:13

What? Kanye is the most creative and original rapper to date. You say that, then I look at your avatar, and shake my head with disagreement.

As if the likes of Fiddy can even make tracks like ''Diamonds From Sierra Leone''.
If Mr West ain't up to much, then 50 Cent is stuck to the surface and unable to move.

:laugh:

This is what Insight is about, tis' great to see posts like this.

But yeah, 'Diamonds From Sierra Leone' was and still is an outstanding song, I don't think one can get bored of it.

Henry100

21-08-2005, 12:37

You should listen to Drive Slow ft. Paul Wall, the sample kanye uses is great, one of my favourite tracks off of Late Registration, along with Touch the Sky and Diamonds from Sierra Leone feat Jay Z (and the video version for that matter)

edit: Kanye is easily one of my favourite artists because he has the ability to be versatile and still make a very good album, unlike other rapper/producers and touches on subjects that not many other famous rappers will because they are too scared of losing that 'gangsta' appeal, which is said. Kanye keeps it real and i respect him for that, i respect this man alot, which cant be said for many others

Gunplay

22-08-2005, 01:57

You should listen to Drive Slow ft. Paul Wall, the sample kanye uses is great, one of my favourite tracks off of Late Registration
At first I was like, what the hell is Kanye doing taking an obvious sample that 2pac used on the well known ''Shorty Wanna Be A Thug''?

Then the concept hits me and I'm baffled. He did it great justice.

Gun_Runner

22-08-2005, 16:27

Diamonds is alryt, but how can you say hes the most creative bla bla bla when he was releasing tracks like The Workout Plan & It All Falls Down.?

btw. thats Jay-Z in my sig.

methical

22-08-2005, 17:15

we can tell by the lips
i wud love 2 c common beef with some1 on aftermath or g unit and put them in there place, common can destroy any of them lyrically

Teekay

22-08-2005, 20:02

Diamonds is alryt, but how can you say hes the most creative bla bla bla when he was releasing tracks like The Workout Plan & It All Falls Down.?

All falls down is brilliant, but workout plan is shite. I've heard the new album, and it's absolutely superb.. ;)

Magpie4eva

22-08-2005, 21:03

I liked Workout Plan. I absolutley love Never Let You Down with Jay-Z

Gun_Runner

22-08-2005, 21:15

The Workout Plan & It All Falls Down arent exactly what I'd call hip-hop, hip-Pop maybe yeh....

and I dont think Common would 'destroy' Eminem in his peak...he may beat him, but not destroy.

Rangers_Fureva

22-08-2005, 21:18

The work out plan is brilliant, well allright:D
As for All falls down that song is brilliant imo.

Magpie4eva

22-08-2005, 22:23

I dont really like All fall downs.

Im loving The game Start from scratch!

Hunter

22-08-2005, 22:34

Diamonds is alryt, but how can you say hes the most creative bla bla bla when he was releasing tracks like The Workout Plan & It All Falls Down.?

btw. thats Jay-Z in my sig.

"Diamonds From Sierra Leone" is a superb track, never thought anything like that would have been made.

And what the hell are you on about, "All Falls Down" is also a good track, and also creative. And it is certainly not Hip-Pop.

yusuf eeli

22-08-2005, 22:50

"Diamonds From Sierra Leone" is a superb track, never thought anything like that would have been made.

One of ma best tracks EVER

And what the hell are you on about, "All Falls Down" is also a good track, and also creative. And it is certainly not Hip-Pop.

Have to say that 'All Falls Down' isn't that great but the new work out plan is pretty good.

Akineye

22-08-2005, 23:25

Kanye West is a terrible rapper.

There's absoloutley nothing to him whatsoever.

Magpie4eva

22-08-2005, 23:28

Check this out...I found some info...I was searching through the net and found this...http://members.aol.com/subseven/tupac.html

Its weird...i mean I know hes dead but these things are true...if u are a fan then you would read the whole thing...Its basicly is Tupac alive??

Elhombrebala

22-08-2005, 23:29

Kanye West is a terrible rapper.

There's absoloutley nothing to him whatsoever.

You gotta be kiddin me. The guy is a great rapper and also a great producer. He already has alot of hits on his name, both as rapper and producer.

Akineye

22-08-2005, 23:45

You gotta be kiddin me. The guy is a great rapper and also a great producer. He already has alot of hits on his name, both as rapper and producer.

'Having hits to your name' doesn't mean a goddamn thing.

Personally I don't like his beats, but it's beyond me how anyone can think he's even a marginally good rapper. He's also an ignorant schmuck too... saying he wants to be remembered for spitting his first song with his jaw wired shut. He wants to go down in history as the mublemouf rapper. I don't think anybody actually takes him serious as a good lyricist except for you apparently.

Oh, and what are these 'hits' he has on his name?

50!

23-08-2005, 00:00

Magpie4eva

23-08-2005, 00:04

I know bout that but this aint it...Its weird how everything is true what this dude said

yusuf eeli

23-08-2005, 00:35

Eric Clyde

23-08-2005, 00:52

Seen it before and it did make me think for a bit but put it this way, seeing is believing.

Gunplay

23-08-2005, 02:01

Kanye West is a terrible rapper.

There's absoloutley nothing to him whatsoever.
Not a terrible rapper, that's harsh. He is average as far as lyrical skills are concerned but come production and making superb music in general, competition is near non-existence (*cough* Dr Dre).

Gunplay

23-08-2005, 02:08

'Having hits to your name' doesn't mean a goddamn thing.

Personally I don't like his beats, but it's beyond me how anyone can think he's even a marginally good rapper. He's also an ignorant schmuck too... saying he wants to be remembered for spitting his first song with his jaw wired shut. He wants to go down in history as the mublemouf rapper.
You've got ''ignorant'' mixed up with ''arrogant'', which every rapper is nowadays.

You sure you don't like his beats at all? That's a first.

Gunplay

23-08-2005, 02:18

Diamonds is alryt, but how can you say hes the most creative bla bla bla when he was releasing tracks like The Workout Plan & It All Falls Down.?
It All Falls Down? Now combine that with your avatar and signature, I really can't take your opinion seriously.

and I dont think Common would 'destroy' Eminem in his peak...he may beat him, but not destroy.
Has someone hacked Gun Runner's account? Really, just piss off.

Common managed to dismantle a charismatic Ice Cube late in his peak. Eminem would be a fucking walk in the park for him.

Akineye

23-08-2005, 09:38

You sure you don't like his beats at all? That's a first.

No but that's just me personally. I can respect him as a producer the same way I can understand why everybody loves an album like Illmatic despite me not liking it personally.

You've got ''ignorant'' mixed up with ''arrogant'', which every rapper is nowadays.

He's also an uneducated moron by all accounts. His arrogance is nauseating because if you wanna be arrogant like that you have to have at least marginal skill.

Gunplay

23-08-2005, 11:20

He's also an uneducated moron by all accounts.
Hence, College Dropout :rolleyes: .

I don't know, haven't detected much of his stupidity in songs.

How many rappers are actually well educated anyway?

Level6

23-08-2005, 11:54

Really? I think it matches the first. Maybe I'm just liking the more soulful mood adopted for the sequel.

Had a good listen during the weekend....i am loving Touch The Sky...Lupoe Fiasco mercs it on that track :D Also Crack music is heavy...don't know why Game doesn't spit some bars on there :unsure: ...Addiction, My Way Home and Bring Me Down are also some quality songs.

Does anybody here know what the meaning of the four skits are suppose to be about.....i was trying to work it out...but couldn't undestand what message Kanye was trying to put across :mellow:

Akineye

23-08-2005, 11:55

Hence, College Dropout :rolleyes: .

I don't know, haven't detected much of his stupidity in songs.

How many rappers are actually well educated anyway?

I'd say that most rappers are at least marginally intelligent. He has absoloutley no education whatsoever and couldn't even graduate from a downtown jig college. Shit... you can go to college three times and get a degree. I'm not saying Kanye West sucks at music because he's a dumbass, but to be that painfully ignorant and talk like he knows what the fuck he's going on about is laughable.

Gunplay

23-08-2005, 12:01

I'd say that most rappers are at least marginally intelligent. He has absoloutley no education whatsoever and couldn't even graduate from a downtown jig college. Shit... you can go to college three times and get a degree. I'm not saying Kanye West sucks at music because he's a dumbass, but to be that painfully ignorant and talk like he knows what the fuck he's going on about is laughable.
I don't think he couldn't graduate. He just didn't and decided to pursue a musical career instead. I think you are being spiteful towards your opinion of him. I don't know what this is triggered by, but okay.
It's not evident that he is a nincompoop.

Gun_Runner

23-08-2005, 12:05

I just dont like him because to me his voice is very annoying after a while, I think he should stick to production as he produced The Game's Dreams and its great.

That tupac link earlier on the page is practically just the same facts as tupacfans.com

Magpie4eva

23-08-2005, 12:05

I wasnt really impressed by all falls down...Ok I liked it after a few times of listening...but he is a brilliaint guy thats why The Game likes him, Jay-z does and loads do

Gunplay

23-08-2005, 12:11

I just dont like him because to me his voice is very annoying after a while,
Have you heard of a guy named 50 Cent? His voice isn't pretty either. Yet he squeezes into your avy.

You have just backpedalled everything you said about Kanye and packaged it into ''his voice is annoying''. Which like your previous arguments of him, can not be taken seriously at all.

Hunter

23-08-2005, 12:27

Have you heard of a guy named 50 Cent? His voice isn't pretty either. Yet he squeezes into your avy.

I was about to say something along the lines of that.

I honestly can't see how someone can dislike Kanye West, I mean if you don't like his music much, fair enough. But theres no reason to dislike him. I watched a program about a year back or around that time on MTV:Base called 'Diary of Kanye West'. This was roughly when "Colledge Dropout" was released, and he went back to his old High School I think it was to give a suprise performance. Was fantastic to watch, all the pupils looked like they were about to slit their wrists due to mass amounts of boredom and then Kanye came rushing out from behind some curtains. The pupils suddenly put their knives back into their bags and came to the front of the stage.