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Kluiverte
18-04-2005, 21:47
I personally like Valdes, this season has been very good for him, as someone has said Barca is the less goaled team in la liga and Valdes has completed great performances during the season.
Anyway i think it's very hard to be a keeper in a great team beacuse people always remember the goals received (Madrid, Chelsea) altouht these goals come from laks on defense.
proud to post my 900th in barca thread . Valdez is a good goal keepers for barcelona and they have that goal keeping position sorted , i see valdez as the second casillas and possibly better than canizares , barcelona is doing really well and i have the confidence to say that the league title is as good as theirs , i respect real madrid giving all they have got to win againts us , but i think it won't have much effect , sorry guys maybe next year
For those of you who don't know, Rio Ferdinand is stalling on a new contract at Manchester United. He is demanding over £100,000 a week which Man Utd are refusing topay him, so he says if they don't offer him the contract he wants he will go, preferably abroad. It says in todays paper that Barca are willing to pay him that much, and are preparing a £20m bid in the summer. What do all you think of this?
Kluiverte
19-04-2005, 17:16
For those of you who don't know, Rio Ferdinand is stalling on a new contract at Manchester United. He is demanding over £100,000 a week which Man Utd are refusing topay him, so he says if they don't offer him the contract he wants he will go, preferably abroad. It says in todays paper that Barca are willing to pay him that much, and are preparing a £20m bid in the summer. What do all you think of this?
Should be great, Puyol + Rio Ferdinand!!! Anyway i think it's very difficult seeing Rio with the Barça shirt, anyway let's see what happens.
It's said that Barca could be interested in Van Nistelrooy too...
Rio Ferdinand is going to Chelsea.
Don't you think it's strange how he suddenly demands a bigger wage packet after seeing Peter Kenyon? Kenyon has obviously offered him a fine deal at Chelsea and hes just trying to milk Man Utd, to see if they have the braun to keep hold of him.
I don't think Ferdinand will go to Chelsea. He said he went to Leeds because he wanted to escape London. I think Man Utd will give in and offer him the money he wants. But it would be awesome to see him and Puyol at Barca.
Kluiverte
19-04-2005, 17:55
It's true that the meeting with Kenyon is very suspicious, that's for sure. And we know who's managing in Chelsea... So i'll bet for Rio in Chelsea but if it don't become maybe Barca has something to say about.
I'd said many times before, but i think that Kompnay is called to be a star and he's very very young, definitely he shoulb be a great signing too.
Kluiverte
20-04-2005, 17:37
The roumors about the possible coming of Van Nistelrooy are increasing, some people in the newspapers are saying that he wants to leave Manchester and has been offered already to several clubs in Europe two of them are Barca and Madrid.
Altought he's a very good striker, with Eto'o, Larsson and Maxi is enough imo.
barca did want nistelrooy to come but that's like 2 seasons ago , i dun think they're interested in him at this moment anymore , they should concentrate at their defence and midfield and strikeforce
Yeah, Ruuuuuuuuud is good but we don't need him he wouldnt fit into how we play. His not great to watch although he does get the goals. And his 29 I think so pier said, concentrate on sorting the defence out
van Nistelrooy is a good player, but Rijkaard likes to play with one up front, and so therefore van Nistelrooy and Eto'o could not both start. Pier and latinomig23 are right- sign a defender to partner Puyol because Oleguer is not good enough yet, but Edmilson or Marquez could step in. The midfield is OK, Marquez, Edmilson and Motta can all play defensively, so can van Bommel if he joins, but he may be played where Xavi and Deco play if they need a rest, are injured or are out of form. A right back is also needed because Belletti can not defend and that's what he's there to do. Get rid of him actually, because even as back up he'll still be too attacking and a liability.
So, sign a centre back and a right back.
belleti is not that bad if u watch him play closely , he can make good strong tackles and provide a good attacking option up front , he can bring the ball up too . he makes blunders yes true , but sometimes , he can easily be man of the match , look at the positive side of the guy , not the negative side .
btw in getting a defender , barcelona should get Juan from leverkusen many of my friends says that he's the cannavaro of brazil
a midfielder , van bommel is good havin van bommel in the middle partnering xavi is good for both defence and offence making deco and ronaldinho available for more attacking.
a striker , by far the most suitable striker for barcelona is fernando torres only 21 and he's captain of atletico madrid or ricardo oliveira who is to me by far very under-rated , should see how good he performs every match , lots of defenders are scared of him
I saw Van Bommel in the game against Lyon he impressed me alot. His taller then I thought so his got a good presence and he isnt afraid to get stuck in and for free his gotta be the player to get.
btw guys , i think eto'o is injured right , our striker is left with maxi lopez , are we able to score ?! i'm not sure if maxi lopez and iniesta can help barca bag goals
Kluiverte
22-04-2005, 10:44
btw guys , i think eto'o is injured right , our striker is left with maxi lopez , are we able to score ?! i'm not sure if maxi lopez and iniesta can help barca bag goals
Tomorrow the docs will inspect Eto'o and will decide if he can play on Sunday against Malaga.
About Maxi, i personally like the way he plays, last day against Getafe he got three clear goal chances and he was working and moving a lot for the team, he's young and i think he'll be a good striker, he has good teachers (Larsson and Eto'o) ;)
Next match is the key imo, if barca wins they just will need three more wins and la liga will go to Barcelona. And Madrid palys tomorrow against Villareal, very good match, Forca Villareal!!
Yeah. I like Maxi as well. Come to think of it, Larsson was great in the beginning of the season, but he's getting old, so it wouldn't hurt to have a youngster with good potential. How about Giuly finally scoring? I can't believe he's not sharp in front of goal, the least to be said.
What about next year? V. Bommel will be good, and that would mean Rafa playing CB, which is very good, but surely we can do with someone better than Belleti.
Cristiano07
22-04-2005, 11:28
i heard davids could make a return back 2 barca. not sure if its true though, and would u want him back though, he is gettin on a bit
of course we want one of the world best defensive mid back , i have a bad feeling that eto'o wont be able to play tomorrow , i think it's gonna be giuly and maxi lopez up front , i hope they bag goal/s
and abt van bommel , if he comes to barca marquez will be a central back , but when edmilson comes back , he will be a bench player , yes he's good but not that good
Ya reckon? Rafa benched for Edmilson? I think the other way around. Or a change of tactics.
yeah , maybe it's gonna be a change of tactitcs like edmilson with be the central defender and rafa be the defensive midfielder , but i said IF van bommel comes to barca , then there's a huge possibility that rafa will be benched , we also need to see edmilson's performances too
It's called "Rich Man's Dillema". I'd love to have both Rafa and Edmilson, it's clear that depth in defense is essential. Oleguer proves that point.
if u guys hate that much belleti , then have puyol take the right full-back position and have both edmilson and rafael marquez in central defence with gio/sylvinho as the left-back ,
belleti is quite versatile he can be a right back or a right midfield or a right wing , ive seen rijkaard put him as a right midfielder a couple of times i think he's not bad at that position
Kluiverte
22-04-2005, 12:39
In my opinion Puyol has to play in the centre of the defense, he's one of the best centerbacks nowadays.
Marquez is playing great and i don't think that he's going to be benched, he can play as center back and as defensive midfielder, the same that Edmilson, so having both let's Rijkaard a great defense.
About Van Bommel, if he finally comes to Barca, i think he'll play in the position of Deco or Xavi as a kind of defensive/ofensive balanced midfielder.
And about Belletti, i love the way he plays...
Morientes19
22-04-2005, 12:41
do you think van bommel will get straight into the team? who will he replace?
And about Belletti, i love the way he plays...
finally a guy who share my opinions
I think we need to get a few defensive players with a bit of presence, we are not the tallest teams. I'd like to see us try get Kompany that guy has amazing potential him and puyol CB's. Belleti's doing a ok job he just hasnt got any competition for the right back position. Gabris been out for a while. So it would be good to maybe sign a right back get some more competition in the team. I also read today in El Mundo Deportivo that ballack has said he would love to go a team like barça! Ok he hasnt been playing well but when he gets back to form his one of the best midfielders around.
Thanks gollan for agreeing with me about Belletti not being good enough. His style of play may be good to watch, but as I have said before, defenders need to defend. And he doesn't do that well enough, but maybe he can play on the right wing.
And I would rather Marquez playing instead of Edmilson whether it being at centre back or central midfield, but unfortunately Edmilson is going to be ahead of Marquez in the pecking order next season. Although I would like Marquez to be centre back and Edmilson in defence with van Bommel on the bench if he joins next season. Not that van Bommel is a bad player, just that he would be much better in the midfield with Marquez, Edmilson or Motta in there defending. In other words, he should play where Xavi and Deco usually play, when they need a rest, are injured or out of form. We might get an idea of where Edmilson will play later this season, because he might be fit for the last two games.
I doubt they'll be acquireing another right back because Gabri will probably be fit by next season.
If Van Bommel comes to play for the team, then you can all be sure that Marquez will be benched, which would be a travesty. But hey, the good news is Rijkaard is going to have plenty of options. Who knows, they might not even sign anyone else. They offered Larsson an extension of his contract as soon as he got injured, so chances of getting another striker are slim.
Just for the record, i've always liked Belleti, but it is undeniably obvious that he is better at attacking than defending. His finishing isn't great, but he is a pretty good winger.
True to all of you that like Belleti's wing abilities, but Yossi and I think alike. A right back has to be, first and foremost, a solid defender. Just out the top of my head, Belleti to be blamed for:
1. The 1st goal vs Chelsea in Camp Nuo
2. Both Zidane's and Ronaldo's goals vs. Madrid (the far corner - HIS corner was uncovered)
I'm sure there are more.
I agree with your second point there gollan. But not the first one. How about the third at Stamford Bridge what Chelsea scored? Joe Cole had the ball in the middle, Duff just ran through on the left with Belletti almost on the touchline with Duff about 20 yards away. In this case, he wasn't too far forward, just way out of position.
I have just read in El Mundo Deportivo, that Van der Vaart has said that he is waiting for barcelona to make an offer for him as they are his dream club. Also Dellas has said that barcelona are interested in his services.
why would barcelona want dellas ?
Dellas had a very good Euro 2004, but I wouldn't be too keen on him at Barcelona. There are also better players available than Van der Vaart.
Van der Vaart use to be class, had alot of promise. Maybe he just needs a change of team, I would welcome him with open arms at barça.
yup , he would be perfect for barcelona's left flank , and ronaldinho will be more free to attack in the middle
True to all of you that like Belleti's wing abilities, but Yossi and I think alike. A right back has to be, first and foremost, a solid defender. Just out the top of my head, Belleti to be blamed for:
1. The 1st goal vs Chelsea in Camp Nuo
2. Both Zidane's and Ronaldo's goals vs. Madrid (the far corner - HIS corner was uncovered)
I'm sure there are more.
Belletti couldn't keep up with Duff as he raced on to Joe Cole's through ball.
Anyway strange to see the huge number of talents rumoured to be heading for Barcelona:
Baros
Tomasson
van der Vaart
Torres
Davids
Ashley Cole
Dacourt
Cassano
Trezeguet
van Nistelrooy
Edu
Solari
Luque...
;)
By the way hopefully Barca will slip up tonight away, preferbaly bring back 0 points, and Real will be withing striking distance of you all :D
Lorenzinho
24-04-2005, 12:44
If Cassano goes to scummy Barca i will eat my hat/kill myself.
Why go to a supremely inconsistent who now look like losing the league to Madrid?
Plus, he's going to Juventus so you can take him off that list...:)
By the way hopefully Barca will slip up tonight away, preferbaly bring back 0 points, and Real will be withing striking distance of you all
In your dreams, bwoy.
If Cassano goes to scummy Barca i will eat my hat/kill myself.
Why go to a supremely inconsistent who now look like losing the league to Madrid?
Plus, he's going to Juventus so you can take him off that list...:)
how do u know he will go to juve ? he said that he's gonna stay in roma right
If Cassano goes to scummy Barca i will eat my hat/kill myself.
Why go to a supremely inconsistent who now look like losing the league to Madrid?
Why do you think Barca are 'scummy'?
And maybe recently the players aren't playing as well as they did before Christmas, but Real are not going to catch up.
And of all those players Figo10 mentioned, why no centre backs? That's what's needed.
fattyronaldo
24-04-2005, 14:51
how are you so sure that madrid are not gonna catch up yossi? well i don;t wanna say too much either, so let time tell.
I'm confident. 3 points clear with a game in hand at the moment- and surely Barca won't slip up now.
I'm confident. 3 points clear with a game in hand at the moment- and surely Barca won't slip up now.
Football's a funny game isn't it.
Thats the good thing about the sport, anything can happen.
But in all honesty I think Barca will just scrape the League win, but thats just my opinion.
Madrid do have a good oppotunity like so you can't fully rule them out yet. It makes it for a more interesting League finish.
I'm confident. 3 points clear with a game in hand at the moment- and surely Barca won't slip up now.
Well, there are still six more games left for them to slip.
It's either they lose 2 or draw 3 and Real would be level on points if they get all their points :cool:
Real still have a 10% chance to win La Liga in my opinion.
Most of the time it's good that anything can happen (like Norwich!) but sometimes it isn't, like Barca at the moment.
And remember Real need to get more points than Barca because of the results between the two.
Most of the time it's good that anything can happen (like Norwich!) but sometimes it isn't, like Barca at the moment.
Well Barca aren't like a Chelsea, Arsenal, Juventus or Milan, they don't have the tough defence and good players to keep on grinding out the results week in week out.
Of course neither do Madrid.
Though right now the pressure's on Barca, who's been top for so much of the season, facing the danger of Real potentially climbing and catching up with them.
Watch out :D
maybe a bit off topic, but this one's for you Yossi - Yossi (the real one) with a kickass hattrick.
So I'm not real? I have a brain, two arms, two legs, etc. so that makes me real as well.
Yeah but I bet you wouldn't score a hattrick in La Liga. :rolleyes: besides after all the commotion from your "school mates" we know that you're really an Owen, so ;).
Where did I say I could? Where did I say it wasn't a great performance by him or the Racing team? And when is everyone going to forget about that?
Yes, well, anyway. We won 0-4.
Motta brings security to the midfield and the defensive line. That guy is such a breath of fresh air at this point. Also, i never thought i'd be disappointed when my team scored, but seeing Oleguer sneak that in, was very painful for me.
Too bad Xavi is missing the next one.
^^^
To Yossi - Never, muhahahahahahaha. :satan:
Yeah, great game, finally Giuly's scoring.
In Yo Face Real Madridians !!! Muaahahahahhaahahahaha
Highway Penguin
25-04-2005, 05:11
In our faces?
Nah, we are the ones who brought back a 12 point, at times more points, difference to a 6 and we are still putting down pressure. At mid season I would have said, infact I did say, that Barca had the league, but as we edge closer to the end, I can see that they are loosing what grip they had. Today's match showed an impressive result, but the match itself was pathetic for Barca. Eto'o, Ronnie, Gio, Belleti, Deco, Xavi, and Iniesta played quite poorly. Giuly's goals were nice, but in my opinion, he was lucky. Gerard and Oleguer both had very lucky goals. Arnau should have been able to collect both. Malaga were playing very well, controlling how the ball moved, etc, until the first goal. After that they seemed to be less attack minded. Though I did see Fernando attack a lot and he was very dangerious.
Malaga should have had atleast 1 penalty, if not 2. Valdes held onto Angel (Pretty sure that was him, though it could have been Juan) after he fumbled the ball in the area. He clearly held onto him.
You got away with a lucky match guys, consider yourselves lucky.
;)
i'll accept that statement if the score was 2-0 or 1-0 , but this is 4-0
Exactly. A lucky match cannot be a 4-0, besides Giuly who couldn't score for shit for such a long time, considering them spec goals he scored for Monaco last year, well it was waiting to happen. I mean, we all know he could nail it, but game after game (and the best example was in the Real match) he kept on missin em sure shots. Well yesterday was a different story.
Besides - you want to talk lucky? How about a supernatural hand guiding Casillas for the past 3 matches or so, blocking amazing shots?
Don't go there (lucky when my opponents win 'em, talent when my team wins it) as we all know that Real is one of the 'luckiest' teams around - ref decisions, debt erasing by the government, supernatural saves and so on.
Better luck next year. (If the owners will have enough sense to keep Lux. If they fire him, and bring yet another manager, then you're in for another dissapointing season IMO)
Kluiverte
25-04-2005, 12:57
In our faces?
Nah, we are the ones who brought back a 12 point, at times more points, difference to a 6 and we are still putting down pressure. At mid season I would have said, infact I did say, that Barca had the league, but as we edge closer to the end, I can see that they are loosing what grip they had. Today's match showed an impressive result, but the match itself was pathetic for Barca. Eto'o, Ronnie, Gio, Belleti, Deco, Xavi, and Iniesta played quite poorly. Giuly's goals were nice, but in my opinion, he was lucky. Gerard and Oleguer both had very lucky goals. Arnau should have been able to collect both. Malaga were playing very well, controlling how the ball moved, etc, until the first goal. After that they seemed to be less attack minded. Though I did see Fernando attack a lot and he was very dangerious.
Malaga should have had atleast 1 penalty, if not 2. Valdes held onto Angel (Pretty sure that was him, though it could have been Juan) after he fumbled the ball in the area. He clearly held onto him.
You got away with a lucky match guys, consider yourselves lucky.
;)
It's a very pathetic opinion, when you win 0-4 there's no much place for luck. Go to see the poor Madrid, they were really LUCKY on Saturday because they played shity.
Just three more wins and the league will come to Barcelona.
It's a very pathetic opinion, when you win 0-4 there's no much place for luck. Go to see the poor Madrid, they were really LUCKY on Saturday because they played shity.
Just three more wins and the league will come to Barcelona.
In my opinion if you win your next game, you're already 98% there.
Barcelona's just so close to the title, they've probably got a hand on the trophy already. Not to say that Real are also prone to slip-ups, and there're only 5 games left!!! :D
You all better win this otherwise... ;)
Kluiverte
25-04-2005, 16:05
In my opinion if you win your next game, you're already 98% there.
Barcelona's just so close to the title, they've probably got a hand on the trophy already. Not to say that Real are also prone to slip-ups, and there're only 5 games left!!! :D
You all better win this otherwise... ;)
Madrid is doing what they've to do; win and wait. They're winning more from the hope than for the football they're playing, but all is in the hands of the Barça players, and they're showing everyone who deserves to win La Liga this year and which is the club in Spain.
They say that's the luck a good team has got to have to become champions.
But you can win 0-4 and be lucky, say if you have got a red card against you.
But I dont see Barca give it away, despite Real's efforts.
Too bad Xavi is missing the next one.
I think the commentators over here got it spot on- it was deliberate. He and Rijkaard thought that the Albacete game next week won't be too difficult (and they're probably right) so he would miss that and not the Valencia or Villarreal games. You could also tell because there was no need for him to stand there blocking a quick free kick on the halfway line when Barca had nearly all the team behind the ball. And he still stood there when the ref told him to move, and he was smiling about it afterwards.
And I think that's sour grapes from highway penguin up there. The first one was poor defending, so maybe has a case, but none of the others were lucky. Ronaldinho spotted Giuly's run from deep for the second, and played an excellent ball for the third. Gerard's goal was just a great header.
Xavi missing the next match for the reasons you mention makes perfect sense.
Ronaldinho spotted Giuly's run from deep for the second, and played an excellent ball for the third. Gerard's goal was just a great header.
So true.
Kluiverte
26-04-2005, 10:45
Xavi looked for the yellow card so he'll be in Valencia.
From www.goal/com:
Van Bommel Nou Camp Switch Already Defined-Report
PSV skipper Mark Van Bommel will almost certainly play for Spanish giants Barcelona next season, Spanish media reports indicate.
It seems that the Dutch midfielder met with Barcelona general manager Txiki Bergiristain last week and signed a pre-contract with the Catalan club.
Van Bommel, who will be available on a free this coming June, will earn around 3 million Euros per season if the deal concretises itself.
The only special request Van Bommel made to Barca, was that they wait until PSV’s Champions League adventure ends, before announcing the deal.
AC Milan, who PSV face this evening in the semifinals of Europe’s prime club competition, were also very interested in gaining Van Bommel’s services.
This must be because of his team's excellent charge to this year's Champions League semi-finals, even though in Milan they are presented their first tough opponents in the knockout stages.
It's a tradition for small clubs to lose all their good players, just as Monaco lost Giuly, Rothen, Morientes and Prso last season, and Ferreira, Carvalho and Deco left defending champions Porto.
If he arrives he'll be ableto play alongside any of Xavi, Marquez, Deco and Gerard in central midfield.
This deal wouldn't come as a surprise to some... ;)
From www.goal/com:
It's a tradition for small clubs to lose all their good players, just as Monaco lost Giuly, Rothen, Morientes and Prso last season, and Ferreira, Carvalho and Deco left defending champions Porto.
It's they way small teams exist, really. They don't have the budget, and they can't refuse the offers.
Kluiverte
26-04-2005, 16:04
That's right, but Van Bommel comes for free as his contract finishes in June so PSV won't get any money.
so he's 100% confirmed coming to barcelona ?
Kluiverte
26-04-2005, 16:15
Don't think 100% altough some press assure that, but maybe he's 80% ;)
so he's 100% confirmed coming to barcelona ?
Well, as the report said, you will soon know after PSV finishes off Milan (or the other way round :D).
Even if it's not confirmed, where can van Bommel go? He doesn't look like he's going to England, neither is he moving to Real Madrid or some Italian club.
Barcelona's probably the likeliest destination, with their rumoured targets from all over Europe and of any nationality.
So yes, it's at least 80% confirmed.
I saw yesterday on the Spanish football programme over here that Barcelona are interested in Ballack again and Gallas. I personally think that van Bommel is as good as Ballack, others will probably disagree, and there is no need or room for both. But Gallas on the other hand would be a good signing, because he could cover at centre back, or play as a full back on either side, hopefully in my opinion replacing Belletti. What do you lot think?
Barcelona smell lol i like your players though ive taken a justing fell to maxi lopez is it seen him on footbal imaginal or somethinl like that a footie programe anywho, and at the time he was still at river plate i think ? and they said he will move to a big european team and guess what he went to barca, i liked his style of play against chelski frighted the defenders and linked up well with the rest of the team.
I saw yesterday on the Spanish football programme over here that Barcelona are interested in Ballack again and Gallas. I personally think that van Bommel is as good as Ballack, others will probably disagree, and there is no need or room for both. But Gallas on the other hand would be a good signing, because he could cover at centre back, or play as a full back on either side, hopefully in my opinion replacing Belletti. What do you lot think?
I hope due to Chelsea already having Terry and Carvalho, that versatile Gallas can move to another club, like Real Madrid, which he is needed at and can play in his favoured position.
He'll be a valuable squad member to any club.
But Gallas on the other hand would be a good signing, because he could cover at centre back, or play as a full back on either side, hopefully in my opinion replacing Belletti.
Well, Puyol can already do that :cool:
Yeah Gallas is a great centre back, I don't think he would wanna come if they said he was gonna play right back, thats the reason his upset at chelsea he wants to play centre back.
Highway Penguin
27-04-2005, 03:08
Exactly. A lucky match cannot be a 4-0, besides Giuly who couldn't score for shit for such a long time, considering them spec goals he scored for Monaco last year, well it was waiting to happen. I mean, we all know he could nail it, but game after game (and the best example was in the Real match) he kept on missin em sure shots. Well yesterday was a different story.
Besides - you want to talk lucky? How about a supernatural hand guiding Casillas for the past 3 matches or so, blocking amazing shots?
Don't go there (lucky when my opponents win 'em, talent when my team wins it) as we all know that Real is one of the 'luckiest' teams around - ref decisions, debt erasing by the government, supernatural saves and so on.
Better luck next year. (If the owners will have enough sense to keep Lux. If they fire him, and bring yet another manager, then you're in for another dissapointing season IMO)
Did you see the goals?
Giuly's goals were nice. The rest were luck. Gerard was 2 feet away from the top of the 18 when he scored. How lucky can you get?? Oleguer's goal happened to drop to the corner and the keeper fumbled it. You were lucky. No way around it. We weren't lucky. Riquelme got a PK. Ronaldo's goal was brilliantly set up by Zizou. Ronnie set up Salgado's goal wonderfully.
You might not agree, but I watched the match and saw a lucky goal after another.
It's a very pathetic opinion, when you win 0-4 there's no much place for luck. Go to see the poor Madrid, they were really LUCKY on Saturday because they played shity.
Just three more wins and the league will come to Barcelona.
Don't insult other's opinions, it's a poor insult.
We may have not played up to par, but it's not like Barca did. More than half of your team was playing poorly.
3 games? We'll see.
;)
but considering that riquelme (villareal key player) wants to let madrid win , thats a poor result
Highway Penguin
27-04-2005, 05:16
What?
Where did you read that?
it's in every football website
Morientes19
27-04-2005, 10:41
Hi los individuos están allí cualquier persona que hable español aquí. ¡Barca ganará el título para seguro, esperanza que no se deslizan para arriba!!!
Kluiverte
27-04-2005, 11:08
Did you see the goals?
Giuly's goals were nice. The rest were luck. Gerard was 2 feet away from the top of the 18 when he scored. How lucky can you get?? Oleguer's goal happened to drop to the corner and the keeper fumbled it. You were lucky. No way around it. We weren't lucky. Riquelme got a PK. Ronaldo's goal was brilliantly set up by Zizou. Ronnie set up Salgado's goal wonderfully.
You might not agree, but I watched the match and saw a lucky goal after another.
Don't insult other's opinions, it's a poor insult.
We may have not played up to par, but it's not like Barca did. More than half of your team was playing poorly.
3 games? We'll see.
;)
I haven't insult anybody, just said that if Barça was lucky then i can't find and adjective to describe how Madrid winned.
I understand that you can be a little disappointed after two years without titles and having the most expensive players in the world, it's a geat failure for Madrid and his prepotence.
Under the pressure of having Madrid at three points, barça winned 0-4, it's a good response to the pressing and surely it dissapointed you a little. Maybe next year... ;)
not much people speak spanish here...
Kluiverte
27-04-2005, 11:13
Yo puedo hablar un poco... ;)
You might not agree, but I watched the match and saw a lucky goal after another.
An alternative definition of Luck = The actual chance that events will take place in spite of statistics predicting otherwise. So if there's a 50\50 chance of something taking place, you really can't say someone was lucky if things happened in a certain way.
Now when you can't know whether what just happened was "luck" or whether it was well inside the statistical "brackets", look at the events preceeding that events.
In our case - Barca winning most of their matches, usually scoring more than once.
Another factor is that if only 1 goal was to be scored, you could say that it was luck. But to have 4 lucky streaks usually means that you have to re-assess your previous evaluation (yours, in that case, that Barca scoring a goal is out of the statistical brackets) and come to the conclusion that probably it was predictable that Barca will score. Maybe not 4, but surely 2.
England winning vs. N. Ireland - not luck
Man U winning vs. Bayern in 99' - luck
:welcome2:
Morientes19
27-04-2005, 11:16
Sé hablar solamente poco también. Todavía estoy aprendiendo la lengua.
Kluiverte
27-04-2005, 11:21
An alternative definition of Luck = The actual chance that events will take place in spite of statistics predicting otherwise. So if there's a 50\50 chance of something taking place, you really can't say someone was lucky if things happened in a certain way.
Now when you can't know whether what just happened was "luck" or whether it was well inside the statistical "brackets", look at the events preceeding that events.
In our case - Barca winning most of their matches, usually scoring more than once.
Another factor is that if only 1 goal was to be scored, you could say that it was luck. But to have 4 lucky streaks usually means that you have to re-assess your previous evaluation (yours, in that case, that Barca scoring a goal is out of the statistical brackets) and come to the conclusion that probably it was predictable that Barca will score. Maybe not 4, but surely 2.
England winning vs. N. Ireland - not luck
Man U winning vs. Bayern in 99' - luck
:welcome2:
Great analysis...great.
Kluiverte
27-04-2005, 11:31
Sky Sports;
"Barcelona have emerged as firm favourites to sign Mark van Bommel, with the talented midfielder reportedly already putting pen-to-paper for the Spanish giants.
The Dutch international is available on a free transfer from PSV Eindhoven, and is expected to make the move to Camp Nou on a three-year deal in the summer.
Catalan press reports claim Barca director of sport Txiki Beguiristain tied up a pre-contract agreement with the 28-year-old whilst on a recent trip to Denmark, leaving Italian giants Milan frustrated in their attempts to snare the PSV skipper.
Van Bommel was on the brink of agreeing to join Real Madrid in December before Jose Antonio Camacho was fired, and it now looks as if he will link up with fellow countryman Frank Rijkaard at Los Cules.
With their UEFA Champions League campaign in full swing, PSV are thought to be reluctant to confirm that their talisman has agreed a deal, although it has long been known that the Dutch international would develop his career away from the Philips Stadion come June.
Barca, currently heading La Liga, have consistently been reluctant to confirm that any prospective deal with the player has been hammered out although it now appears if they have beaten a host of clubs to securing the signature of the in-demand midfielder.
This latest development has also put paid to any lingering hopes that Tottenham held of signing van Bommel, with fellow Dutchman Martin Jol a big admirer of the player's talents."
Yesterday Galliani from Milan said that he thinks that Van Bommel will play in Barça next year, so the sigining of Van Bommel is very near. I think it's a very good signing, he's a really good midfielder we'll be stronger with him in the team. And he comes for free.
Morientes19
27-04-2005, 11:38
he will be a super signing 4 barca. what a freebie!
utilizo un diccionario español ahora, yo quiero aprender español, sea difícil
Morientes19
27-04-2005, 11:48
utilizo uno también. i me toma por siempre para encadenar una oración junto.
Kluiverte
27-04-2005, 12:24
utilizo uno también. i me toma por siempre para encadenar una oración junto.
About your signature... i think it should be better if you put "Nunca caminareis solos" ;)
Morientes19
27-04-2005, 12:35
Does my new one make sense?
Kluiverte
27-04-2005, 12:38
Does my new one make sense?
The first part is ok, but i don't know what the second part means!
Morientes19
27-04-2005, 12:43
I have changed that. hows the 2nd part now?
Kluiverte
27-04-2005, 12:49
That's ok!
Is any of this Spanish needed? The only bit I understood was 'utilizo un diccionario español'.
And Figo10, you're right that Puyol can do that but he is far more influential as a centre back.
1000 th post dedicated to my thread !!! FC Barcelona thread !!! barcelona fans , dun worry cuz barca will bag the league cup forca barca !!!!!!
Barça should pick up another 3 points this weekend against my dads home town Albacete. Could be a potential banana skin. Madrid havent got it to easy this weekend their away to sociedad. Also talk about barcelona step up their interest again for Julio "la Bestia" Baptista, now he would be very welcomed.
Kluiverte
28-04-2005, 12:49
1000 th post dedicated to my thread !!! FC Barcelona thread !!! barcelona fans , dun worry cuz barca will bag the league cup forca barca !!!!!!
Congratulations Pier!
Barça should pick up another 3 points this weekend against my dads home town Albacete. Could be a potential banana skin. Madrid havent got it to easy this weekend their away to sociedad. Also talk about barcelona step up their interest again for Julio "la Bestia" Baptista, now he would be very welcomed.
This weekend la liga would be clear for Barça, it's funny like the major part of Real Sociedad players had admit that they want Barça to win La Liga and that they're super motivated to beat madrid this weekend. ;)
Fuckin' aye! That's it, fellas. Unless there is a major cataclysm or a miracle takes place in Albacete, this year the title will be ours!
I'm really hoping Real loose the next one.
Sociedad are not to be understimated, ye monarchist scum! :)
"the beast" going to barca will be a really good player , he's super versatile and , he's deadly in the air and bags a lot of goals his body is like a tank and he runs people down with it, lots of people say he's not good in brailian league...he can defend really well like an italian but attacks like a brazillian , really good addition to barca
Scarface
28-04-2005, 14:19
FC Barçelona offers 12 million Euros and 3 players for Deportivo La Coruñas Albert Luque. The 27 year old attacker has allready announced his inclination for the catalonian side before he left Mallorca for La Coruña.
According to the spanish newspaper "AS" has Barça made this exceptional offer for Deportivos Superstar Albert Luque. The players of whom Barça would offer three are Riquelme, Saviola, Rochemback, Sergio Garcia and Maxi Lopez.
Luque, who joined Deportivo for 18 million euros from RDC Mallorca, has never made a secret of how much he would like to play for Barçelona.
That sounds a little far-fetched to me, is Luque really worth that much? I wouldn't be surprised if Barca are interested in Luque, but offering the likes of Saviola, Riquelme and Maxi Lopez on top would be ridiculous. AS have outdone themselves yet again :)
The Lecce jewel has also been linked with Milan and Juventus.
Argentinean midfielder, Ledesma, is the latest player to be tipped for a move to Spanish giants Barcelona at the end of the season. The Lecce player shined during this Serie A campaign and helped his side reach a mid-table position.
Barcelona are looking for a central midfielder after confirming in the past weeks that Demetrio Albertini’s contract will not be renewed. However, the Catalan based club will have to watch out from Milan and Juventus who are also after Ledesma.
Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani believes that PSV Eindhoven midfielder Marc van Bommel will join Barcelona.
Reports earlier this week claimed that a deal has now been agreed for the Dutchman to move to Camp Nou on a free transfer this summer.
"I believe that Van Bommel will be a Barcelona player," said Galliani.
"I don’t believe we need him, we already have good players in that area of the pitch."
Barcelona are close to agreeing their first-ever shirt sponsorship deal and the historic £65million agreement will be worth £15m more than Chelsea's new deal.
The Spanish league leaders are poised to complete a five-year deal reported to be worth £13m a season.
Yesterday, Chelsea announced a record sponsorship deal for a Premiership club with Samsung paying the Blues £50m over five years from next season.
Although Barcelona have not revealed the name of their proposed sponsor it is thought that the front-runner is the Chinese government, who will use the deal to promote the 2008 Beijing Olympics.
Once the Olympics have taken place the deal would then be used to highlight the 2010 Asian Games in Guangzhou.
Qatar Airlines are the other main contenders to land the deal.
"We hope to secure the league title and the deal with our sponsors at the same time," said club president Joan Laporta.
"This issue is closer to being resolved day by day. If it happens it will be closed by the end of April or in the first two weeks of May."
Should Barca break with tradition and agree to a shirt sponsorship deal, the Chinese government's bid is likely to win favour with the shareholders, who have voted against doing deals with companies in the past. FIFA announced today the total prize money for the 32 finalists at next year's World Cup finals in Germany has been increased by 38 per cent to £145m.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/sport/football/articles/18185504?source=Evening
Unfortunately it looks like Barca will end up with a shirt sponsor, i'd have liked them to keep to tradition, but if they would be gaining £13m a season, I can understand their decision :eek:
About Baptista- this is what I said on March 17th.
Baptista is a great player, definitely Barca quality, but I don't think he should be a partner for Eto'o. I think his attacking ability is wasted in the midfield three, and he is not a central striker, nor a winger so I would have absolutely no idea how he would fit in to the current tactical system.
I stand by this.
he can become an offensive midfielder , or a central midfielder
Then they should buy a player who is already a central midfielder or an offensive midfielder, instead of converting someone who has strengths in other positions, and these strengths therefore wasted somewhere else.
baptista's position is actually a cmf , he's like the lampard of brazil
But if he plays in central midfield, his attacking ability is wasted. He is one of the best players in La Liga, Barca quality as I said before, but he is not needed. The money would be better spent on a centre back, right back, or both.
But if he plays in central midfield, his attacking ability is wasted. He is one of the best players in La Liga, Barca quality as I said before, but he is not needed. The money would be better spent on a centre back, right back, or both.
Theres no need for a new right back. Centre back, yes.
Belletti is not good enough. His defending is barely relegation battling La Liga team standard, never mind Barcelona standard. Going forward he is good, but he's a defender and therefore should defend like one, because right now he defends like an offensive player.
why do u always like to talk abt belleti , baptista will be a good cmf , he is played out of position now , cuz sevilla played him as a striker , but his actual position is a cmf . this is good for barca if they sign him cuz he is very versatile and can play anywhere , and when eto'o gets injured there also will be a replacement for him
"We hope to secure the league title and the deal with our sponsors at the same time," said club president Joan Laporta.
Laporta is a whore.
Rochemback is on loan to sporting for another year btw.
Kluiverte
29-04-2005, 11:31
Baptista, Van Bommel, Albertini, Edmilson, Motta, Gerard, Marquez, too many defensive midfielders. We need one or two centerbacks. What have failed this season? The defense. So please sign defensive players.
In other terms, the return of Javier Saviola to Barca is very near, he has accepted a reduction in his contract and he surelly will return on June. For me is a great new.
I wouldn't sign too much players this season, the team has shown that they're strong and had played a great football so don't spoil the party with unuseless signings.
buhassan
29-04-2005, 11:55
Baptista, Van Bommel, Albertini, Edmilson, Motta, Gerard, Marquez, too many defensive midfielders. We need one or two centerbacks. What have failed this season? The defense. So please sign defensive players.
In other terms, the return of Javier Saviola to Barca is very near, he has accepted a reduction in his contract and he surelly will return on June. For me is a great new.
I wouldn't sign too much players this season, the team has shown that they're strong and had played a great football so don't spoil the party with unuseless signings.
rumers is that barcelona are intrested in gallas
buhassan
29-04-2005, 11:56
why do u always like to talk abt belleti , baptista will be a good cmf , he is played out of position now , cuz sevilla played him as a striker , but his actual position is a cmf . this is good for barca if they sign him cuz he is very versatile and can play anywhere , and when eto'o gets injured there also will be a replacement for him
maxi lopez??
Kluiverte
29-04-2005, 13:04
rumers is that barcelona are intrested in gallas
Yes, he has admitted that Barca has contacted him, what about him? Is a good defender?
o0oGedo0o
29-04-2005, 13:53
gallas is a great player, i heard they're aiming for van bommel as well
Firstly, I do not always talk about Belletti. Only in 3 conversations have I mentioned him.
Secondly, I agree with Kluiverte and that the defence needs sorting more than any other position but two of those players (Edmilson and Marquez) are top quality centre backs anyway.
Thirdly, Gallas is as good defender, capable of playing anywhere across the backline, even though he only likes playing centre back.
Fourthly, Saviola is a decent striker who I rate very highly but I think Barca should try to sell him and get a lot of money for him because there will already be three good strikers (Eto'o, Maxi and Larsson) competing for one spot next season. And on the subject of strikers, what will happen to Sergio Garcia next season? Will he return, be loaned out again or sold?
Fifthly, on the subject of loans, why is Rochemback going on loan again? This will be the third year he's been loaned out, and his transfer value has dropped every year as it runs out. He should've been sold in the first place or sold now, to get a little bit og money.
Sixthly, on the subject of money, why is a sponsor needed? Barca spent loads last summer, are probably going to spend a lot this summer, and are not in serious financial trouble. The club has enough money to spend on players as it is, without destroying a priceless tradition to get a little bit more.
Ryder Style
29-04-2005, 16:26
Gallas would be a great signing and to partner puyol would give barca a solid back line. I think belleti will improve with experience and v.bronkhorst could be replaced as he doesnt have enough pace. If barca are to challege for champions league next year then they need to have no weak links at the back, as while v.bronkhorst is good going forward he is not a solid defender which is a problem.
I think barca should definetly get a sponsor for thier shirt, fans who complain about this will not be complaining when laporta brings in new players with the money gained from it
Gallas would be a great signing and to partner puyol would give barca a solid back line. I think belleti will improve with experience and v.bronkhorst could be replaced as he doesnt have enough pace. If barca are to challege for champions league next year then they need to have no weak links at the back, as while v.bronkhorst is good going forward he is not a solid defender which is a problem.
I think barca should definetly get a sponsor for thier shirt, fans who complain about this will not be complaining when laporta brings in new players with the money gained from it
I doubt Belletti will improve with experience. He is about mid twenties I believe (if someone will confirm/deny this it would help) and is therefore getting a bit old to change the whole way he plays. I also think van Bronckhorst is not too much of a weak link, because even though he isn't the greatest defensively, he is always in position when the opposition attack down his side, unlike Belletti. I did not bring the Belletti subject up that time Pier.
And like I said Barca have enough money anyway without getting rid of the tradition.
Ryder Style
29-04-2005, 16:39
And like I said Barca have enough money anyway without getting rid of the tradition.
In football you can never have enough money...
You make a good point Jack:Bluebirds/Ryder Style, but I stick by my comment.
Kluiverte
29-04-2005, 17:00
I won't be proud if Barca finally gets an sponsor, but i have to recognize that it will be good for Barca so will become the first on the list of best payed clubs. Apart from that the sponsor will be Beijing 2012 and it's good to sponsorize an Olimpic Games instead of a private company in my opinion. No mention about the huge Chinese market that surely will be opened to FCB, it can represent great sells of merchandising.
About Saviola, don't you think that he could play in the Giuly position? Obviously he's not the prefered striker of Rijkaard apart of having Eto'o, Larsson and Maxi.
Some news says that Ezquerro (from Bilbao) is about signing for Barça, he'd come for free so he finishes his contract this year. If i have to compare him i shoud say he's a kind of Luis Garcia as he plays on the wings and is left footed too.
Ryder Style
29-04-2005, 17:05
You make a good point Jack:Bluebirds/Ryder Style, but I stick by my comment.
Then we will agree to disagree :)
I suppose Kluiverte does have a point. It will bring in tens of millions of euros every year with the actual sponsor and the market over there.
And I don't think signing Ezquerro would be that good. He may be free, but he's about 30, and he wouldn't get a place in the line up hardly ever. He's not even the best player at a mid-table club with Bilbao at the moment. So he would not be a good signing, and it would be better to use some of them millions from the sponsorship deal, which it seems will certainly happen now, on a better, younger player than Ezquerro.
Kluiverte
29-04-2005, 17:39
I suppose Kluiverte does have a point. It will bring in tens of millions of euros every year with the actual sponsor and the market over there.
And I don't think signing Ezquerro would be that good. He may be free, but he's about 30, and he wouldn't get a place in the line up hardly ever. He's not even the best player at a mid-table club with Bilbao at the moment. So he would not be a good signing, and it would be better to use some of them millions from the sponsorship deal, which it seems will certainly happen now, on a better, younger player than Ezquerro.
I agree with you about Ezquerro, anyway Barca needs a winger! The only one now is Giuly and if he gets injured, who's gonna play there? This year Iniesta took the place but obviously he hasn't the specs to play there altough Iniesta is class, he can play better in the place of Xavi or Deco.
Well, with the money coming in from the new sponsor, a decent winger can be afforded. Like I said before, Barca have been linked with Shaun Wright-Phillips, but I have heard nothing about this since, so it seems unlikely now. And what about signing a competent right back and pushing Belletti (yes Pier, him again) forward? With his style of play, he would probably be happier there, but I don't think that would work.
Belleti would be a good winger, but when we get Luis back, he can play in what is now Dinho's position, who in turn could play in the other side, if need be. Was Quaresma sold or traded for Deco, or is he on loan?
Quaresma was sold I think. I think it would have been better for him to be loaned out because he is a good player, and was got rid of permanently because he had one bad season where he was not given an extended run in the team and was injured for some of it.
i think garcia is bought permanently by liverpool . he won't be comin back to barca
Bad news, Maxi Lopez is out for the rest of the season! Broke a bone in his foot. So fingers crossed Eto'o don't pick up any injuries other wise we will be in trouble. Oh and for a winger we should try get robben, in the papers it has said that there has been a bet of a disagrement about him playing. Imagine DINHO ETO'O ROBBEN!
Luis Garcia isnt coming back unfortunatly, but if he was he would play in giulys postition. He was playing there pre season looked brill but hey we have had a great season, so good luck to him at liverpool.
I doubt Robben will leave Chelsea. It's not Mourinho who he has supposedly fallen out with- it's the other players. If it was Mourinho who he'd fallen out with, he probably would go. But I hope the hatred escalates to the point where he wants to leave or Mourinho feels he must get rid of him and Barca can get him. That would be awesome, but it just ain't going to happen.
What happened there? He is their only creative player, and looks like a decent guy.
I wonder...
here's a football fact , robben wasn't interested playing in man utd or chelsea , his dream team is barcelona , so yeah , there's a chance that he might be goin to barcelona
Lorenzinho
01-05-2005, 12:22
Here's another football fact:
Zidane said his dream team was Portsmouth and not Juventus or Real Madrid.
That, of course, isn't true.
So pier, where's the evidence that Robben wants to play for Barca...?
not sure , just heard it somewhere . anyway , do u guys think that rijkaard is a good manager?
codename 47
01-05-2005, 13:07
not sure , just heard it somewhere . anyway , do u guys think that rijkaard is a good manager?
i think he's a decent manager,whats the story with his contract rumours that laporta and co are stalling to offer him one
Rijkaard is a good manager, doing well at the moment, and I think he should be offered a new contract unless something major happens between now and the end of the season. And I think the Robben/Chelsea problem will be resolved shortly, and he won't join Barca.
And I think the Robben/Chelsea problem will be resolved shortly, and he won't join Barca.
Why say it as though its a fact you turd?
I didn't. It says 'I think', so therefore it's an opinion.
A preview and good prediction of Barcelona's game coming up:
(from www.goal.com)
Liga Preview: Barcelona – Albacete
Barcelona welcome a quaking Albacete outfit at the Camp Nou, looking to get points in the bag ahead of some difficult matches.
BACKGROUND
With five rounds to go, three wins is all Barcelona need to win their first League title in six years. But with Valencia (away), Villarreal (home) and Real Sociedad (away) being the final three opponents, a date with relegation elects Albacete couldn’t have come at a better time.
Top teams, at the end of the season, are usually wary of teams fighting to save themselves from the drop. And with good reason too, as many have turned in performances considered beyond them, just to give themselves that hope of survival.
However, seven defeats on the trot, and an eleven point daylight between Albacete and safety, has snuffed out all hopes, something that the Catalans will not mind at all.
The pride of playing against a top team will, however, always be there. Most of Spain will be watching, and even a draw will allow them to hold their heads up and declare that they were not in the first division just to make up the numbers.
Rijkaard’s men would thus be ill advised to count their chickens a little too soon. The media buzz surrounding the possibility of winning the title at the Mestalla in two weeks’ time is another unwelcome distraction. One step at a time, is the call in Rijkaard’s Camp. With title rivals Real Madrid having to contend with Real Sociedad at San Sebastian, it might be a very important step too.
The Catalans will once again have the luxury and simultaneous pressure of knowing how the Merengues fared at San Sebastian on Saturday. Many look upon it as an opportunity to kill the title race should Real fail.
Barcelona have also given short shrift to the stories coming out of Madrid regarding refereeing favours towards them, with Puyol countering: “I’m not interested in what they’re saying, I’m just focused on us. Everyone’s seen how we are playing and I think they’re just looking for an excuse. We should stay out of all that, it’s hard enough being a ref. and I know they always try to do their best.”
LA LIGA FORM GUIDE
Barcelona: WWDLWW. A mini-slump against Betis and Real Madrid seems to be a thing of the past after a 4-0 hammering of Malaga last Sunday. Barcelona have still lost only once at home all season, in all competitions.
Albacete: LLLLLL. No respite, home or away. Need one say more!
TEAM NEWS
Barcelona: The transfer rumours surrounding Barcelona have been no help. It is common knowledge that Rijkaard wants to build a squad with bench strength enough to compete with the likes of Milan and Chelsea, and make it to the end of the season without worries. All and sundry have been linked with Barcelona, perhaps leaving the current squad a little confused.
That is exactly what skipper Puyol had in mind when he came out with his reassurances, that when he was young he used to be affected by rumours regarding players for his position, but just gets on with it now.
On Sunday, the team will be without Xavi, who picked up a fifth yellow against Malaga. However, Marquez returns from suspension, and the midfield is likely to comprise of him, Deco and Iniesta, who will start his fourth game in a row. Eto’o is still not roaring fit, and may again play only some part in the match, giving Maxi another chance to impress. Sylvinho and Van Bronkhost continue their friendly fight for a starting spot.
Albacete: In their most public admission of defeat against relegation, last week, they allowed midfielder David Sanchez, on loan from Barcelona for the season, to move to second division side Alaves, to help the latter in their fight for promotion. Coach Martín Monteagudo is another of many opponents who have admitted Barcelona will surely win the League. He will be without defender Miguel Buades is suspended after seeing red against Valencia.
He does believe his team have a last hurrah left in them, and wants to make things difficult for Barcelona, and take it from there. As with most coaches visiting the Nou Camp, he is likely to start with a defensive line-up, a 4-5-1, with Antonio Pacheco up front on his own.
PLAYERS TO WATCH
Barcelona: Ludovic Guily. The French international has been in fine form since his return from injury, scoring five times in six games, including a brace against Malaga. He looks set to become the first Frenchman to win a League title with Barcelona.
Albacete: Antonio Pacheco. The Uruguayan has scored 10 goals this season, and continues to despite the team’s imminent relegation. If he can get some service from the midfield, he could cause a few problems for the Barcelona defense.
PROBABLE STARTING XIs
Barcelona: 4-3-3. Valdes – Beletti, Puyol, Oleguer, Sylvinho / Gio – Iniesta, Marquez, Deco – Guily, Eto’o / Maxi, Ronaldinho
Albacete: 4-5-1. Valbuena – Santi, Agus, Mingo, Pena – Jaime, Viaud, Alvaro, Redondo, Gonzalez / Mikel – Pacheco
PREDICTION
It might take a while for the first goal to come, but the floodgates should open after that. Barcelona should overwhelm Albacete with plenty to spare.
Barcelona 3 – Albacete 0
I think Barca will do better than their 4-0 win in their last game, with Giuly in sensational form. I guess this game will end 4-0 as well.
Giuly, Eto'o (2) and Ronaldinho to net.
Well we know Maxi isn't going to be there....broke his foot in training.
yupi heard taht i think he fractured his big toe or somethin
I've heard about that, but how did he do it? Was it another player putting too much effort into a training match or just some sort of freak accident?
Here's the goals from the 2-0 win over Albacete:
Eto'o (http://mohsau.footballclips.net/laliga/week34/Barcelona_1-0_Albacete.wmv)
Messi (http://mohsau.footballclips.net/laliga/week34/Barcelona_2-0_Albacete.wmv)
Ronaldinho Skill (http://mohsau.footballclips.net/laliga/week34/ronaldinhoo.wmv)
that trick was phenomenal.... let's see if i can pull that off at 5-a-side on a monday night;)
Messi's goal - Amazing. Ronaldinho's loft pass to Messi to lob it over the keeper. 1st time disallowed wrongfully. 2nd time it worked. Seemed like 2 guys playing co-ed PES. The only difference that in the 1st time Messi half-volleyed the lob.
Good stuff for the youngster.
soliloquay
02-05-2005, 10:12
yeah good goal by messi. eto'o tried the dribble. not bad, but the shot was great. i've already seen that feint ronaldinho did but ronaldinho makes the most simple moves look classier when they're done with his feet
Messi has always looked lively when he has been given a chance to come on this season. And that was a really well taken goal and he deserved it after the first one was wrongly disallowed. He certainly looks one for the future, so it's a good job he has a €100m buy out clause.
Lorenzinho
02-05-2005, 11:22
Farkin hell! Ronaldinho is farkin' amazin...I'd would probably tear all my ligaments trying that, without 3 bloody defenders round me.
buhassan
02-05-2005, 11:32
I doubt Robben will leave Chelsea. It's not Mourinho who he has supposedly fallen out with- it's the other players. If it was Mourinho who he'd fallen out with, he probably would go. But I hope the hatred escalates to the point where he wants to leave or Mourinho feels he must get rid of him and Barca can get him. That would be awesome, but it just ain't going to happen.
no chance.
did u see how he celebrated the title with the players.
i think the media r just makeing up stories.
dont forget robben was out for 2 months and we cant just shove him on the first team he needs some match practise and i support mourinho's decision to put him on the bench against liverpool.
hopefully his condition will improve and he will play against liverpool.
:)
Just a rumour but I read on a website, that if barça were to try get henry they would alos had to add a player. And it said wenger either wants puyol or messi! I really cant see this being true but you never know.
Kluiverte
05-05-2005, 17:05
Barca is near of winning la Liga, we'll have to wait one or two weeks ;).
I'd like to see Robben wearing the barca shirt next year, it would be great.
i dunno , but i have a feeling robben will come to barca in the future or something like that . i support barca and havin henry would be good for the team , sacrificing puyol or messi shouldn't be a problem to me personaly , but i doubt barca will want to sell their captain
Barcelona manager Frank Rijkaard has hinted loan duo Javier Saviola and Juan Roman Riquelme could still have a future in Catalunya.
The pair are currently out on loan to Monaco and Villarreal respectively, however their quality has never been in doubt.
The Camp Nou giants made a host of signings last summer including Henrik Larsson, Ludovic Giuly and Deco and that left little room for Saviola and Riquelme.
However, the duo have performed well away from Barca this term and they could be given a chance to resurrect their careers with the Liga leaders.
"They are players with a lot of talent and it's necessary to value how we want the team to work and what possibilities we have," explained Rijkaard.
"I consider them two very important players in the world of soccer and we cannot discard anything because we are working and considering everything."
Barcelona president Joan Laporta has travelled to China to tie up the club's first-ever shirt sponsorship deal.
The Catalan outfit have never carried a sponsor on their shirt in their 106-year history, but have decided to break with tradition to bolster their finances.
A lucrative five-year deal is now in place with the Government of the People's Republic of China.
Under the terms of the agreement Barca will receive a minimum of €95 million over the five-year period, although the figure could rise depending on the team's success.
Laporta has headed to China along with Barca officials Ferran Soriano and Marc Ingla and is expected to clinch the deal in the near future as they are scheduled to be back in Spain on Saturday.
As part of the deal, Barca could also play a pre-season tour of China in August that would see them earn more revenue.
The Primera outfit are keen to seal the proposed deal as they see it as the perfect way to increase their presence in the lucrative Far East market.
Saw these on Skysports.com. Thoughts?
I've never been a huge fan of either saviola or riquelme. Its good to see them doing well but I just dont think they are anything special, I mean look at the teams they are playing for. No disrespect but they are both in my opinion teams a level below barça. Maybe not 3 years ago but now we need the best, and well these 2 don't fit into that catorgorie. This is my own opinion I'm sure their are plenty of you who disagree. The sponorship deal sounds good, with all the bonuses we could have the biggest sponorship deal in football. Visca Barça!
Cristiano07
05-05-2005, 21:49
i think ur right on requelme but i think sav is ace and seems 2 score a lot
Both are very good players, but can either of them get a regular place in the team? I don't think so.
Cristiano07
05-05-2005, 22:11
prob not, sav would have more chance though, would b great back up 4 when eto'o is out as he score quite regulary
prob not, sav would have more chance though, would b great back up 4 when eto'o is out as he score quite regulary
Good post.
Cristiano07
05-05-2005, 22:14
Twat
Cristiano07
05-05-2005, 22:16
Good post.
TWAT
Cristiano07
05-05-2005, 22:22
Im happy also
The Dubes
05-05-2005, 22:28
Cracky, cut it out. I can feel a ban coming your way :angry: Wouldn't be a minute too soon.
soliloquay
05-05-2005, 22:29
don't ruin one of the biggest threads around!
and why shouldn't riquelme merit a place in the barca squad? he has awesome dribbling and great vision. then again, they have ronaldinho. but saviola is a player to keep as a sub for eto'o. maybe even create a duo
Cristiano07
05-05-2005, 22:31
i agree, saviola would b good back up 4 eto but cant c it working as a partnership
i agree, saviola would b good back up 4 eto but cant c it working as a partnership
Good post :laugh:
Sorry i couldnt resist. I'll stop
Cristiano07
05-05-2005, 22:34
Good post :laugh:
Sorry i couldnt resist. I'll stop
TWAT. i knew u were waiting 4 me 2 put sumthing, ur good
I've never been a huge fan of either saviola or riquelme. Its good to see them doing well but I just dont think they are anything special, I mean look at the teams they are playing for. No disrespect but they are both in my opinion teams a level below barça. Maybe not 3 years ago but now we need the best, and well these 2 don't fit into that catorgorie. This is my own opinion I'm sure their are plenty of you who disagree. The sponorship deal sounds good, with all the bonuses we could have the biggest sponorship deal in football. Visca Barça!
Cant argue about the level of their current teams. but at least in Riquelme's case, he's still playing in the same league as barca and proving himself productive. So if you count him out for something, id hope its more than just the team he is producing for.
TochaMan!
06-05-2005, 02:39
The only way to fit Riquelme in a starter Barca role would be changing Barca's formation. But even this way i dont think it would work, he seems to need the ball in his feet too much to be effective... i dont believe he can make the same transition as the Deco did. But Riquelme skills are unquestionable.
Riquelme won't come back. It's a matter of pride now. Luis Garcia won't come back either. But v. Bommel is coming in, and there are non-stop rumors about strikers joining in.
So YEAH to all Barca fans. Need to be luckier in the CL next year, that's all. The team (save Beletti in his current position) is almost complete.
Ronaldo 9
06-05-2005, 11:36
But even this way i dont think it would work, he seems to need the ball in his feet too much to be effective...
I agree to that, knowing that barca play collectively so no-one holds the ball for too long and that's the exact opposite ofwhat Roman would like to do.
i would like riquelme to come back to barca , he can partner ronaldinho in the offensive midfield position , i dunno why he hates barca so much ...
Solid Foxx
06-05-2005, 16:09
Riquelme is a great player, but I think he needs to play in a team which is built around him, like Villareal. And that won't happen at Barca.
Saviola would be a great stand in for Eto'o but I guess he we will be less than pleased to sit on the bench?
Barca should try to get Gallas or Trabelsi and Fernando Torres.
btw: Isn't there any interest from any club for Torres?
yeah , juventus is one of them , but the transfer rumour died out , i heard that fergie is a big fan of torres too , arsenal wants him too . he's a pretty famous transfer subject
I think he's said he'll stay at Atletico until his contract is up in about 3 years time. He also once said the only other Spanish club he'd play for is Barca, so maybe in the future.
im sure hes [torres] loved and wanted far and wide, but atletico would be hard pressed to replace him i should think
Riquelme is a great player, but I think he needs to play in a team which is built around him, like Villareal. And that won't happen at Barca.
That's precisely it. Villareal will probably make some deal with the Catalans, so as to keep him.
Monaco may be in bad shape these days, but Villareal are a top class team, at the moment.
The thing with the sponsor won't bother me as much as long as the logo is in good taste and not too large, but I have a feeling thats exactly how it's going to be.
Luis Garcia won't come back either. that's cause he's there permanently
im quite puzzled why people say luis garcia is gonna come back , he's trasferred to pool permanently and will not come back to barca
Great goals tonight by Ronnie and Eto'o. Valencia looked like shit. Seems like it's over for Madrid now.
buhassan
09-05-2005, 09:39
does anywon have the barcelona goals against valencia?
I was under the impression that you get Barca TV, buhassan.
Wait till you see Ronaldinho's strike.
buhassan
09-05-2005, 10:07
i'v seen the goals.
i want to download them to my computer
Well it looks like after 5 years finally we will be champions of spain. Its been a horrible 5 years mainly all down to gaspaart and his stupid desicions. Laporta is da shit! What a goal by dinho what a powerful shot but yet he made it look effortless. VISCA BARÇA
Edmilson is fit and training with the team, so he might play next weekend.
I hear that Larsson is also taking part in the training sessions. :)
larrson is fit enough to train ? that's good , i always rate that guy highly
Kluiverte
12-05-2005, 20:09
Really impresive the goal of Dinho last Sunday! We're so near, this saturday i'm going get drunk!!!!
Forca Barca!!!!!
Yep, looks extremely likely that the title is heading back to the Nou Camp this weekend- possibly before the Barca players step on the pitch. Anyway, it doesn't matter what Real do at Sevilla, a win against Levante won't be that difficult judging by their current form.
Kluiverte
13-05-2005, 19:07
I think Barca will be the champion before playing against Levante and they'll win anyway, they want to get the record of points in la Liga and if they win the three last matches they'll get it.
In other terms, is confirmed that Ezquerro and Van Bommel will be playin with Barca next season, that's 100% confirmated.
Ezquerro?! He is a good player at Bilbao, but he's not going to get nowhere near the Barca first team. He's not exactly going to improve as he gets older, he's around the 30 mark anyway. There are better players available, and with the likes of Eto'o, Ronaldinho, Giuly, Iniesta, Maxi, Larsson, Saviola, Riquelme and even Messi are perfectly fine to fight over three positions next season. If there was a need to sign anyone, at least make it a decent player who would be able to get in the team most weeks.
I have no problem with van Bommel though. He will provide excellent cover for Xavi, Deco and Edmilson/Marquez (whichever plays in midfield) and maybe take over if one of them is out of form or injured.
In other news:
Barcelona's historic shirt sponsorship deal to promote the 2008 Olympic Games in Beijing may be in jeopardy after Chinese government officials denied that any negotiations had taken place.
The Catalan club had claimed that they had held positive talks with the Chinese when Joan Laporta led a delegation from Barca to Beijing last week in order to seal an agreement that would mean Barca carrying a logo on their shirts for the first time in their history.
But it is reported that the fact that Barcelona revealed so many details of the proposed €95 million deal may have broken a confidentiality agreement and put any deal at risk.
The Beijing Organising Committee have said on several occasions that they have never spoken to anyone about sponsoring Barca's shirts and now the country's General Administration of Sport and the Chinese Olympic Committee have said the same.
Barca have hit back and said that talks are taking place, but that they can no longer talk about the scheme because of a confidentiality clause with the Chinese.
The confusion is not helped by the fact that since the news broke that the team's shirt would promote the 2008 Olympic Games in Beijing, the International Olympic Committee objected.
According to reports in Spain, the logo will simply be a promotion of Beijing itself, but even that has caused problems with Chinese media finding it difficult to believe that their government would spend such a huge sum just to be associated with a high-profile football club.
From skysports.com.
Also, this thread has been dying a slow death recently, what's up?
YEAH !!!! my prayers are answered !! no sponsorship deal !!! ..... is it confirmed ?
From www.goal.com:
Henry And Baptista Under Discussion At Barca
Spanish daily Marca are reporting that Thierry Henry and Julio Baptista are Barcelona’s major transfer targets for the summer.
President Joan Laporta favours a move for the Frenchman, who he admires greatly as a player, while director Txiki Begiristain prefers Baptista, who has been a revelation since joining Sevilla almost two years ago.
With the free transfer signings of Marc van Bommel and Santiago Ezquerro apparently all but done, Barca would have money in the bank for one of these two megastars.
Arsenal would no doubt be unwilling to let Henry leave, but a large bid for Baptista would surely convince Sevilla to sell.
Zaragoza’s Gabriel Milito remains a target for the centre of the defence.
AgentZero
14-05-2005, 11:42
dinho's goal reminded me of the chelski stunner .... he just stood there and then bang top corner
I don't think the sponsorship deal is completely off just yet- there's just less chance now.
La Louviere goalkeeper Silvio Proto is understood to have rejected an offer from Chelsea amid reports a move to Barcelona is close.
The 21-year-old shot-stopper is regarded as one of the best young keepers in Europe and has attracted the interest of a host of clubs including Arsenal, Manchester United and Bayern Munich, as well as clubs inside Belgium.
Chelsea were believed to have joined the race with current number two Carlo Cudicini tipped to leave Stamford Bridge in the summer.
However, Proto has reportedly rejected a move to West London with Catalan giants Bacelona now deemed to be pole position for his signature.
Barca are on the verge of their first Spanish title in six years, but will look to add one or two fresh faces to their squad in the summer with a goalkeeper to rival current number one Victor Valdes rumoured to be on their wish-list.
Proto confirmed he had been contacted by the Spanish outfit, but insisted a deal was still some way off.
"There are contacts (with Barcelona), but I can't say any more although nothing is signed," the player told La Derniere Heure-Les Sports.
Barca are sure to face a fight if they are to eventually land the custodian, who has three Belgium caps to his name.
La Louviere are looking for a figure of around €650,000 for the player which would be easily accessible for most of his suitors.
Heard about this guy, he's also been linked with Man Utd and Arsenal. Seems good, and would be a great buy for €650,000.
o0oGedo0o
14-05-2005, 14:03
but valdes is good enough why bring in another goalkeeper? i think arsenal are the most needy team of them all cause howard, and cech are also good
Valdes is a good keeper, statistically the best in La Liga, but there is a definite need for a back up. At the moment, the back up is an untested player, Jorquera, who has come through the youth system. If Valdes gets injured, would Jorquera be good enough? Possibly, but possibly not.
YES !! barca is crowned champions after they draw againts levante , levante played wel throughout the match but a late equaliser from samuel eto'o made barca spain's champion . real madrid is held to a 2-2 draw againts sevilla cuz of a late equaliser from julio baptista , thanks
fattyronaldo
15-05-2005, 15:42
congrats, you'll deserved it. but as for valdes being the best keeper in liga i have to say that's not true.
I think Casillas is better. But statiscally the best keeper (the Zamora as it's known) is actually Valdes.
Yeah! Although the last 30 mins were shameful, the season was great. AND Real finish with nothing. Sweet. Eto'o = Pichichi, might even overtake Henry.
Kluiverte
16-05-2005, 20:42
We're the champions!
sing with me ! we are the champions my friend.....there's no place like barcelona , sucha lovely place , sucha lovely place ...
Kluiverte
17-05-2005, 09:16
It was impressive last saturday! More than one milion people receiving the players in Barcelona and a great party at the Camp Nou, great. I think it's the beggining of a great era for Barça, with Ronnie, Eto'o, Deco, Xavi, Puyol, all of them young and talented players.
Don't forget the strenght of the team as there've been a lot of injuries in the beggining of the season.
Yosi wrote;
"Ezquerro?! He is a good player at Bilbao, but he's not going to get nowhere near the Barca first team. He's not exactly going to improve as he gets older, he's around the 30 mark anyway. There are better players available, and with the likes of Eto'o, Ronaldinho, Giuly, Iniesta, Maxi, Larsson, Saviola, Riquelme and even Messi are perfectly fine to fight over three positions next season. If there was a need to sign anyone, at least make it a decent player who would be able to get in the team most weeks.
I have no problem with van Bommel though. He will provide excellent cover for Xavi, Deco and Edmilson/Marquez (whichever plays in midfield) and maybe take over if one of them is out of form or injured."
I think Ezquerro is a good signing, he's been the best player in Bilbao this season, and he comes for free, apart from that he's a declarated barca fan. No mention about Van Bommel, greeeeeeeat signing.
About the sponsorship deal, is very near to be signed with Beijing 2008, as appears on some news, they'll pay 19 milions and can reach 30 milions per season depending on titles winned. That's awesome.
About signing roumors, the next is Sergio Ramos, a very young talented defender from Sevilla, if i'm not wrong he's 18 and he scored a great goal last saturday against Madrid... a premonition? ;)
That kid is a good right back. The goal he scored was an impressive free kick.
AgentZero
18-05-2005, 12:02
sing with me ! we are the champions my friend.....there's no place like barcelona , sucha lovely place , sucha lovely place ...
You seem to have forgotten that Juve has also pretty much secured the scudetto..... :rolleyes:
BTW Van Bommel to barca is he worht it. the Big Fish in small pond analogy comes into mind with this one
Kluiverte
18-05-2005, 12:35
Confirmed by both clubs Barca and PSV, Van Bommel will be barcelonista next three years.
Great.
You seem to have forgotten that Juve has also pretty much secured the scudetto..... :rolleyes:
BTW Van Bommel to barca is he worht it. the Big Fish in small pond analogy comes into mind with this one
oh yeah ! but i dun think the juve guys in the juve thread would welcome me...but im still really happy for them . this is a good year for my most favorite clubs , juve and barca
From www.soccernet.com:
Barca finally sign PSV's Van Bommel
PSV Eindhoven midfielder Mark van Bommel has signed a three-year deal with Barcelona, the Dutch champions said on Wednesday.
Van Bommel: Former PSV captain. (MikeHewitt/GettyImages)
The 28-year-old had said he would leave PSV when his contract expired at the end of the season and was expected to join the Spanish champions.
Dutch international Van Bommel will be officially presented in Barcelona after the Netherlands' World Cup qualifiers against Romania on June 4 and Finland four days later.
Barcelona confirmed the signing on their website saying the deal had been kept quiet until after they had won the Primera Liga. The Catalan club secured their first league title in six years last Saturday.
Van Bommel, an attacking midfielder, will add depth to Barca's midfield linking up with Portugal international Deco and Spain's Xavi.
Frank Rijkaard's side suffered a string of injuries this season which threatened to undermine their title challenge with the versatile Gabri, Edmilson and midfielder Thiago Motta all sidelined with knee ligament problems.
Mexican international Rafael Marquez, who has played much of the season in midfield, will be free to return to his more natural position in defence.
Van Bommel's arrival restores Barca's strong links with the Netherlands as he teams up with compatriots Giovanni van Bronckhorst and coach Rijkaard.
Several Dutch players left Barcelona last season with Patrick Kluivert, Philip Cocu, Michael Reiziger, Marc Overmars, and Edgar Davids all moving to other clubs.
Van Bommel joined PSV in 1999 and helped them to four league titles. He played 169 league matches and scored 46 goals.
Kluiverte
18-05-2005, 19:41
Apart form Van Bommel, Ezquerro is coming as i've said some times before.
Apart from that, today has been revealed that Laporta will offer a 130 milions contract to Ronaldinho for the next 10 seasons, so Ronnie will finish his career in Barcelona with 35 years. Ronaldinho will win arround 13 milions euros per year.
What do you think about that? I'd personally like to see Ronnie wearing the barca shirt for ten years more, he's the boss!
In other terms, Laporta has said that Eto'o is not for sale under any condition.
of course having ronaldinho play for barca afor the next 10 years is a plus he's the world's greatest player and barca won't be the same without him , he's most suited for barcelona
If Ronaldinho's going to get paid €250,000 a week, which is way too much (although saying that if Beckham earns €150,000 a week or whatever it is then Ronaldinho deserves at least €1m) then Barca need that damn sponsorship deal fast!
Kluiverte
20-05-2005, 11:11
If Ronaldinho's going to get paid €250,000 a week, which is way too much (although saying that if Beckham earns €150,000 a week or whatever it is then Ronaldinho deserves at least €1m) then Barca need that damn sponsorship deal fast!
I think it's too much money too...
About Eto'o, he's scored 24 goals if he scores 2 goals more in the wo reamining matches he'll get the golden boat as the best scorer in Europe this season. Hope he'll get.
]Apart form Van Bommel, Ezquerro is coming as i've said some times before.
Apart from that, today has been revealed that Laporta will offer a 130 milions contract to Ronaldinho for the next 10 seasons, so Ronnie will finish his career in Barcelona with 35 years. Ronaldinho will win arround 13 milions euros per year.
What do you think about that? I'd personally like to see Ronnie wearing the barca shirt for ten years more, he's the boss!
In other terms, Laporta has said that Eto'o is not for sale under any condition.
That is the best news i ever heard! He is worth it! He is so worth it! I hope he accepts such a deal.
Of course he'll accept it. No footballer in the world would reject a contract worth that much.
Ronaldo 9
20-05-2005, 16:54
guys I just wanted to ask, is Brcelona's game tomorrow or sunday?
thanx in advance.
Phatmann
20-05-2005, 17:13
guys I just wanted to ask, is Brcelona's game tomorrow or sunday?
thanx in advance.
Barcelonas game is on Sunday (live on Sky Sports 1)
Kluiverte
22-05-2005, 19:00
What do you think about the possible signing of Baptista? I really like this player.
This is the third time the subject of Baptista to Barca has come up, and this is the third time I've said this comment.
Baptista is a great player, definitely Barca quality, but I don't think he should be a partner for Eto'o. I think his attacking ability is wasted in the midfield three, and he is not a central striker, nor a winger so I would have absolutely no idea how he would fit in to the current tactical system.
Noooo cant believe Barca finally signed PSV's Van Bommel. He will do well for barcelona for sure it was clear when reporters kept asking him if your going to barcelona he kept smiling. If only man utd had enough funds to buy such a talented player like Van bommel.
If only man utd had enough funds to buy such a talented player like Van bommel.with it being a free-transfer you'z must be really strapped for cash huh;)
Anyone watch the game against Villareal?
The entire team is back in action. Edmilson, Larsson and Gabri came in the second half.
What about that Forlan scoring a hat trick.
Cunt.
I like the guy, though.
Man United should never have let go of him.
Man U should never have let go of him.
I'd say it was only fair of them to let Forlan go. He didnt see enough of the pitch for either party to justify keeping him there, and Man U certainly isnt short on forwards
i think forlan should just stay in villareal , he has a better future in villareal than in man utd
Harry-Kewell
23-05-2005, 15:51
i think forlan should just stay in villareal , he has a better future in villareal than in man utd
Utd fans are probably thinking that he wasn't given a fair go and they let him go a little prematurely but I don't think lose any sleep over it. They have enough in depth quality up front.
Forlan has done remarkably well in his first season. He's only a goal behind Eto'o and had he been taking the penalties for Villarreal instead of Riquelme he'd be well ahead in the top scorers chart. However, I do think that he'll find it difficult to reproduce the same form next season.
It was definitely a good career move for him, because he was going nowhere at Man Utd, and at Villarreal he gets to play regularly and will next season surely be playing Champions League football. Bad thing is he is only one goal behind Eto'o now in the Pichichi- if Forlan gets it then Eto'o will regret the penalty misses against Villarreal and Sociedad. And good job Valdes didn't play yesterday because he'd have fucked up his great stats in the Zamora listings.
I didnt know van bommel went