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I'll admit his not the worse keeper we have had. But I jsut get nervous when ever one of our players passes it back to him. I don't think his distribution off the ball is great either. Just say we get to a final and its penalties I can't see him being a hero. I don't think I've seen him save a penalty. But anyway I guess I just dislike the guy beacause I jsut don't like his face :rolleyes:
I have seen Valdes saving a penalty and has been close to saving pens a few times. We havent comitted that many fouls inside the box in the past couple of seasons anyway.
I know what you mean about him getting the ball. The Villa incident will haunt him for some time.
Oleguer is very insecure as right back, but he surprised me the other day when he made that run into the box and created a good goal scoring chance.
I still dont think he has the quality to be in this squad. He is one of those that i'm surprised to see playing pro football because he is honestly mediocre. But we all know that the only reason he is in this team is because he must be well connected and is catalan...
I think we are going to sign a new full back and a new CB this summer but i have no idea who. I would love to see Gallas in a Barcelona shirt, or even Kompany who is bound to leave Belgium soon.
Any one see Eto'o goal for Cameroon today. Absolute corker. Almost 25yrds out and he screamed it into the back of the net. Oh yeah, he also set the other goal up as well. Goal of the tournament no doubt.
I was just reading on Marca.com (Daily sports paper) that if we don't get Henry, doubt we will, we will try to sign Forlan. The director of football feels that he would be a good choice. Reasons being, he knows la Liga, was pichichi last year and most probably won't be too fussed at playing second fiddle to Eto'o. We will have to wait and see if their is any truth in this.
Not really keen on the man myself. Injuries and his time at United give me doubts.
Kluiverte
26-01-2006, 14:56
I was just reading on Marca.com (Daily sports paper) that if we don't get Henry, doubt we will, we will try to sign Forlan. The director of football feels that he would be a good choice. Reasons being, he knows la Liga, was pichichi last year and most probably won't be too fussed at playing second fiddle to Eto'o. We will have to wait and see if their is any truth in this.
Not really keen on the man myself. Injuries and his time at United give me doubts.
I've readed it too, not a bad signing imo but i prefer David Villa, he's going to be the best spanish striker in the next years.
About Henry, i've read that Arsenal has done an awesome offer to him, we'll see...
David Villa would be an unrealistic target, he is a regular at Valencia and he wouldn't swap that for a place on the Barca bench. If Forlan would though, he would be a tremendous signing.
So, Zaragoza in the rearranged cup tie tonight, shouldn't pose too much of a problem for yous.
Any team news? I presume Messi was just being rested last weekend.
Puyol i think is rested. Marquez, Oleguer, Bellitti and either Gio or Sylvinho. Midfield will be a weak i think. Probably Edmilson with Iniesta and Giuly. Attack will be Messi, Roni and Larsson. Hey, that aint a weak midfield. But thats what i think the team will be.So i read somewhere. Any ideas what time kick of is? I know its live on sky.
Puyol i think is rested. Marquez, Oleguer, Bellitti and either Gio or Sylvinho. Midfield will be a weak i think. Probably Edmilson with Iniesta and Giuly. Attack will be Messi, Roni and Larsson. Hey, that aint a weak midfield. But thats what i think the team will be.So i read somewhere. Any ideas what time kick of is? I know its live on sky.
Kick-off is 8:00, Sky start their coverage at 7:30.
Tuned in just moments after the 1st Zara goal in the 25th.
Christ are these imposters wearing the Blaugrana colors?
Zara 3 - 0 Barca 33rd
Absolutely scandalous calls by the linesman on two brilliant Ewerton runs on wide open on-goal opportunities. If there is any justice Barca should hold themselves responsible to answer with FIVE goals, at least FOUR, than three.
Larsson brings one back with a header from Gio's cross. But in the initial attack the lob Larsson received when it was broken up by the keeper he I'm quite sure was offside by a yard at least.
3-1 Half time! WTF is going on.
TheBishop
26-01-2006, 20:59
looks like they'll be forked without puyol if he doesnt play against chelsea. although im sure this is just a 1 off. they'll probably get back to 3-3 i reckon
Don't know, but Ewerton is making a hard case for his spot in Brazil. He is decimating Barca and should have 2 more goals in his name.
TochaMan!
26-01-2006, 21:02
Tuned in just moments after the 1st Zara goal in the 25th.
Christ are these imposters wearing the Blaugrana colors?
Zara 3 - 0 Barca 33rd
Amazing result for Zaragoza so far. And 2 goals from my boy Ewerthon! Great move for Zaragoza to hire him, a true good player ;)
He was at Dortmund before..?
I'm very impressed, had not seen much of him before today.
Don Sweey
26-01-2006, 21:09
Yep, he used to be at Dortmund. Good player.
TheBishop
26-01-2006, 21:19
that penalty decision was absolute bollox.3-2
This is a farce. No need to gloss it, the officials are blatantly handing this fixture back to Barcelona.
The penalty just awarded was an outrage if you are a Zara supporter or are neutral and have any notion of justice.
Highway Penguin
26-01-2006, 21:23
What a load of shit. I can't believe that the ref gave Barca a penalty.
Lucky bastards.
What a game this is. I reckon Barca will get another and the final score will be 3-3.
And that last yellow? This really is a laughably obvious display of underhanded shifty dealings.
Highway Penguin
26-01-2006, 21:34
Mhm.
Sub:
Cani -> Sergio Garcia
Celades -> Generelo
Larsson -> Maxi Lopez
Some semblance of fairness at the end, Zara take the first leg 4 - 2.
Really should be 5, 6, or 7 - 1. And that's only from the horrific officiating. There were some great chances blown by Zara and Zara alone that could have turned this into a PES one star scoreline.
Now, Latino Mig, this shows that Valdes is important to the side. Jorquera played like a clown tonight, whereas Valdes would've kept out a couple of those.
Also, Puyol was a major miss tonight, I bet Rijkaard really regrets resting him. The defence kept playing offside time and time again, someone with a brain would've realised that they couldn't keep allowing that to happen.
Wtf, Valdes would of saved at least 2 of them goals. 4-2. Last min pen. Hard call at the Camp Nou. 1 goal yes, but 2 goals is tough.
Don Sweey
26-01-2006, 22:02
Well, nobody posting here but Zaragoza won 4-2, a penalty from Diego Miltio in the final minute of injury time.
EDIT: The above post wasn't there when I was typing :tongue:
Well, there goes our winning streak. I'm not too fussed about this because it was bound to happen and this game is in my opinion the best time for it to occur. Now we just need to set things right by returning the favour next wednesday in the Camp Nou. I wasnt able to watch the game but have just read a quick summary in the barca site and it looks like our defence screwed up big time.
True enough and they can always right this when it goes back to the Camp. Should have seen it Muad, it really was a corrupt bunch calling this one.
The defence was a shambles. I reckon Titus Bramble would have defended better. And as for the 2nd goal...The keeper tried to make the save look spectacular and screwed it up.
TochaMan!
26-01-2006, 23:22
Playing offside defenses against players like Ewerthon is very stupid :mellow: Im so proud of Ewerthon! Finally he is getting some attention! (by the way, did you know my Corinthians was his first club? :happy: )
PS.: for those who dont know he is a little overrated in PES 5 :tongue: buy him now! (im a little too excited today ... )
xD
Ewerthon was lethal today, great showing.
Kluiverte
27-01-2006, 08:11
Call me optimistic but we're gonna win them in the Camp Nou, it has been showed that Puyol is absolutely needed in the team. Three goals in four minutes, awesome... Altought in my opinion there were offside in two of the three goals, anyway my point of view is not so much objective.
They're gonna to react next sunday against Mallorca of that i'm sure,
FORÇA BARÇA!!
Barca have been drawn Real Madrid if they get past Zaragoza.
Kluiverte
27-01-2006, 14:35
Barca have been drawn Real Madrid if they get past Zaragoza.
Yes, if Barça pass to semis we'll face Madrid, it'd be great!
Three goals in four minutes, awesome... Altought in my opinion there were offside in two of the three goals, anyway my point of view is not so much objective.
Come on, the replays shew that they were both onside, surely you can't complain.
it looks like our defence screwed up big time.
Understatement to say the least.
I hope we beat Zaragoza and go through to the next phase for the good of all football lovers. Another Classico in the same year. That would be a blessing.
15 minutes gone in the Mallorca game, and I can make out a few monkey chants directed at Ronaldinho when he gets possession. Spain already has a bad enough reputation when it comes to racism and the Mallorca fans had better shut up before they make it any worse.
EDIT: And now Larsson is a target.
Keyser Soze
29-01-2006, 18:22
15 minutes gone in the Mallorca game, and I can make out a few monkey chants directed at Ronaldinho when he gets possession. Spain already has a bad enough reputation when it comes to racism and the Mallorca fans had better shut up before they make it any worse.
EDIT: And now Larsson is a target.
What a discrace. :(
It is a disgrace I think that the spanish FA need to take harsher actions on the racist incidents.
Rangers_Fureva
29-01-2006, 18:46
Those chants are just pathetic, also Ronnie didn't deserve the yellow card he got. Dirty Mallorca player's acting the fool.
Just nearing half time now and it's 1-0 Barca, Guily brought down a Deco lob(if i recall correctly) and slipped it though the keepers legs with his left foot, nice finish.:cool:
3-0 to Barça, Giuly and Messi 2. Both of Messi's goals were nice. Second one more so. Nice little chip over the rushing out keeper. 12 points ahead of second place.
Rangers_Fureva
29-01-2006, 20:15
Now that takes it to 14 straight wins in La Liga, one more and Real Madrid's record of straight wins will be equalled. Only problem is though, Ronaldinho and Edmilson are suspended for the upcoming game against Atletico, who beat Deportivo yesterday 3-2. Could be a touch match.
Back to tonights game, it was rather sloppy at times but when Messi came on Barca just seemed to barrage Mallorca with attacks. Messi took both his goals perfectly, would have been great if he got a hat trick.
He should of got a hatrick. Missed a sitter.
Rangers_Fureva
29-01-2006, 20:24
Oh yeah, that was a terrible miss! But i suppose he compensated from that when he scored that exellent lob.
Yeah I'm not complaining. I mean if it was 0-0 and he missed that I would have been very dissapointed but he made up for it. Should be interesting next weekend. No Edmilson or Dinho. I think Rijkaard could put Olguer CD with Puyol and put Marquez in Edmilsons posistion. Messi to replace Dinho.
Rangers_Fureva
29-01-2006, 20:39
Yeah I'm not complaining. I mean if it was 0-0 and he missed that I would have been very dissapointed but he made up for it. Should be interesting next weekend. No Edmilson or Dinho. I think Rijkaard could put Olguer CD with Puyol and put Marquez in Edmilsons posistion. Messi to replace Dinho.
Yeah i suspect Messi will get a start. Rijkaard may just keep the defence the same and play Van Bommel in Edmilson's position, then play Iniesta. But whatever team he puts out i reckon it could be a tough game as Atletico are on form right now. Plus we must avenge that loss we had back in September.
Not sure about Van Bommel his too attack minded to play the defensive role. Atleti have a good defense, so I can see us drawing next weekend.
Just watching the Madrid game. 1-1 and Celta and all over them. Makes me laugh, the spanish press were saying that Madrid is back blah blah blah and that Barça were weakening blah blah blah. Madrid are still very weak defensively and if it wasnt for Casillas they would be losing 3-1.
Also just read that one of Espanyol's shareholders says he would do his best to bring Ballack to the club. HA! King of wishful thinking.
-Jamster-
29-01-2006, 21:41
Ballack would never go to such a poor club like Espanyol there a middle of the table side club
Rangers_Fureva
29-01-2006, 21:49
Not sure about Van Bommel his too attack minded to play the defensive role. Atleti have a good defense, so I can see us drawing next weekend.
Just watching the Madrid game. 1-1 and Celta and all over them. Makes me laugh, the spanish press were saying that Madrid is back blah blah blah and that Barça were weakening blah blah blah. Madrid are still very weak defensively and if it wasnt for Casillas they would be losing 3-1.
Also just read that one of Espanyol's shareholders says he would do his best to bring Ballack to the club. HA! King of wishful thinking.
Yeah watching it aswell. Real Madrid are controling the second half now, but in my opinion it should be 2-2. I reckon that shot Cassilas supposidly kept out went in.;)
Twas my initial reaction, but it didn't. They have been bloody lucky though on the whole, very lucky to get three points as Celta have been the better side I reckon.
Yeah I think once is comes of the post it goes in then hits Casillas hand and comes out. Celta were very unlucky. Should of got a point at least. I hope we get through on Wednesday and then Dinho can abuse Cinicho. Beckham was playing right back for alot of the game. I think Cicinho thinks because his got number 11 he should playing right wing :rolleyes:
Cicinho is too attacking even for my taste. We will make him pay dearly for this tendency when they face us. Truth be said, he got them a goal but it's not often that you see a full back so far upfront. It seems wrong somehow.
Although when i play thats exactly what i do. I scored a lovely goal on a counter attack all by myself last night before the game. My team mates pulled the defense apart it's true, and eveytime i faked i was going to pass it to someone i just sprinted forward eating up yards towards the box until i dribbled past the last defender and keeper and scored on an empty goal. Everyone watching couldnt help applauding my mighty effort. Glorious!
That ball, in the Madrid-Celta match, clearly bounced inside so it should have have ended a draw.
I don't see any limits to Messi's future. Seems he always leaves me shaking my head.
Cicinho is too attacking even for my taste. We will make him pay dearly for this tendency when they face us. Truth be said, he got them a goal but it's not often that you see a full back so far upfront. It seems wrong somehow.
Although when i play thats exactly what i do. I scored a lovely goal on a counter attack all by myself last night before the game. My team mates pulled the defense apart it's true, and eveytime i faked i was going to pass it to someone i just sprinted forward eating up yards towards the box until i dribbled past the last defender and keeper and scored on an empty goal. Everyone watching couldnt help applauding my mighty effort. Glorious!
That ball, in the Madrid-Celta match, clearly bounced inside so it should have have ended a draw.
you're a defender ?
Kluiverte
01-02-2006, 14:52
Great match today, if we pass we'll face Madrid on semis...
ronnie2287
01-02-2006, 20:24
I'm confident that we'll play a great game today against Zaragoza and make the semis an absolute nightmare for Madrid. GO BARCA!!!!!!!!!!!
golazo! Who else but Messi boys, a man down Barca with a brave soul respond with a beautiful chipped lead from Deco, Giuly chases it down, and inches before the touchline crosses it to a rising Messi for a flawless header!
I say a man down, but I meant 10 men down such value is Ronnie.
EDIT: Ronnie given a straight red for a barely late tackle that had absolutely no malice in it.. what fuckery that was.. but Barca responds wonderfully
EDIT: That should do it, amazing looping shot to the opposite top corner. Zara congratulations you've received retribution for the comedy officiating of the 1st leg by the absolutely fuck-all dismissal of Ronaldinho in this leg. Both legs were a fucking farce; the officials not the players, dominated this tie.
ronnie2287
01-02-2006, 23:08
golazo! Who else but Messi boys, a man down Barca with a brave soul respond with a beautiful chipped lead from Deco, Giuly chases it down, and inches before the touchline crosses it to a rising Messi for a flawless header!
I say a man down, but I meant 10 men down such value is Ronnie.
EDIT: Ronnie given a straight red for a barely late tackle that had absolutely no malice in it.. what fuckery that was.. but Barca responds wonderfully
EDIT: That should do it, amazing looping shot to the opposite top corner. Zara congratulations you've received retribution for the comedy officiating of the 1st leg by the absolutely fuck-all dismissal of Ronaldinho in this leg. Both legs were a fucking farce; the officials not the players, dominated this tie.
I'm in absolute agreement with ya gadfly. The officials had some kind of hair up their ass from jump start of this tie. That fuckin sucked!
That referee was a complete lunatic. Giving Dinho a straight red and later on in the second half a Zara defender didnt even get a warning for the exact same intentional tackle on Messi.
Oh well. Dinho should not have got a straight red thats for sure. Messi was immense. Their was still 30's to play, who knows if we would of scored.
Kluiverte
02-02-2006, 13:25
The referee ruined the match and ruined the first cup of the season for Barça, Dinho uses to receive between 10-15 faults each match!!!!
Anyway, now we can concentrate our efforts on La Liga and on the Champions League.
Blowing the whistle a good 30 seconds before the end, just as we were mounting a counter attack was very fucking dubious indeed. I think we were refereed out of the competition. I hope i never meet that bastard in the street because i doubt i'll be able to contain myself.
Don Sweey
02-02-2006, 20:24
Blowing the whistle a good 30 seconds before the end, just as we were mounting a counter attack was very fucking dubious indeed. I think we were refereed out of the competition. I hope i never meet that bastard in the street because i doubt i'll be able to contain myself.
Pardon?
You were refereed IN to the competition in the first leg, ffs. The refereeing pretty much balanced out so stop whining.
vanNistelrooy
02-02-2006, 20:27
Surely there must be a rule for "SPOILERS". I know it's been some time since the game was played, but it's only just showing on SS and I already know Barca go out :(
Don Sweey
02-02-2006, 20:29
At least you know when the goals were scored ;)
Pardon?
You were refereed IN to the competition in the first leg, ffs. The refereeing pretty much balanced out so stop whining.
Look, i didnt watch the first leg so i cant comment on that game. What i CAN comment on is this one and it got corrupt refereeing all over it. Balanced refereeing? Then i guess the ref should be on our side the next time we face Chelsea, right? Or that time we got bad refereeing last year against Valencia...i guess they should make it up for us in the next game, yea? Fuck us in one and be good to us in the next one? To balance shit out, yes?
WTF are you talking about, man. Thats complete nonsense.
Oh, and before i forget, i reserve the right to say all i ficken want in this thread about my team, including righteous whining, capisce?
I seen both legs and you only need to travel back a page or so to hear my rants on the lopsided bullshit that went on in the 1st leg for Barca's benefit.
However in the 2nd leg Ronnie's dismissal and countless other examples like Deco receiving an assraping as last man on goal and there was no card, nothing given, etc.. was, if you were fanatic enough to call it out, jealousy or some other agenda driven nonsense. Unbelievable how irresponsibly they went about balancing out the calls across both fixtures. Completely handed the entire tie, overall, to Zara.
Don Sweey
04-02-2006, 12:07
Look, i didnt watch the first leg so i cant comment on that game. What i CAN comment on is this one and it got corrupt refereeing all over it. Balanced refereeing? Then i guess the ref should be on our side the next time we face Chelsea, right? Or that time we got bad refereeing last year against Valencia...i guess they should make it up for us in the next game, yea? Fuck us in one and be good to us in the next one? To balance shit out, yes?
WTF are you talking about, man. Thats complete nonsense.
Oh, and before i forget, i reserve the right to say all i ficken want in this thread about my team, including righteous whining, capisce?
Nice to see you can't be impartial. I dislike arrogant, blind fans greatly. Support a side all you want, but be realistic as well.
As for Chelsea, I don't care what refereeing goes on so long as you knock them out. The better Barcelona's winning margin the happier I'll be.
Kluiverte
04-02-2006, 14:41
The referee was awful, i'm with Muad'Did, anyway Zaragoza did things well, they're a good team.
Now we've to forget that, tomorrow's match will be hard against Atletico de Madrid, Ronnie and Eto'o out of the team...
Wow, nice match there......who will play in the position of Dinho?
Rangers_Fureva
04-02-2006, 15:02
I would imagine Messi would take Ronnie's spot out wide and Larsson to play through the middle. This will certainly be a tough game, hopefully Puyol marks Torres out of the game.
Okay boys, here's a ticket to Liverpool/Chelsea or the Barca match for us North Americans, as it will be blacked out as well:
http://www.football4less.com/schedules/schedules.html
The link doesn't have the schedules for tomorrow up yet, so check it out either late tonight or early tomorrow. I was browsing it last night late and was able to set up my media player for Saturday.
Speaking of that, I am no internet ninja - I can only advise you, when the schedules are up, to click on any stream that has a miniature Windows Media Icon. I haven't the foggiest how any of the others work. If you click on the Windows Media Icons, it should just launch and leave it be til the match begins.
Check FCBarcelona.com for the countdown ticker, it tells you by hours/minutes precisely when the match begins. And I think we're all familliar with the difference in UK/US time.
Nice to see you can't be impartial. I dislike arrogant, blind fans greatly. Support a side all you want, but be realistic as well.
What does me mentioning the obvious nonsensical refereeing that took place have anything to do with my impartiality?
Arrogant and blind!? How dare you! I am the foremost critic of this club in this here thread! :angry:
As for Chelsea, I don't care what refereeing goes on so long as you knock them out. The better Barcelona's winning margin the happier I'll be.
I look forward to knocking them out, specially if that means we will face Milan somewhere along the way! :D
Here is a replay of the tackle, courtesy of Preki, for any of you who have not seen one of the most corrupt calls in the history of the sport. Link (http://www.baqu.neostrada.pl/WWW.FCBARCA.COM/zaragoza/ronnikartka.avi)
Don Sweey
04-02-2006, 21:44
Arrogant and blind!? How dare you! I am the foremost critic of this club in this here thread! :angry:
Well if that is indeed the case then I take it back.
Here is a replay of the tackle, courtesy of Preki, for any of you who have not seen one of the most corrupt calls in the history of the sport.
:shocking:
Nice to see Rijkaard's reaction with a distraught Ronaldinho.
I really dont like to whine about this sort of thing but that referee was on a mission, there is no doubt about it.
Don Sweey
04-02-2006, 22:24
I see your point having watched that.
On GolTV, even the producers and tech people were duped as they assumed a yellow and showed that on the graphic that came on the screen.
The announcers realized it late too, and were incredulous.
It's almost as if they saw the red, the referee held it in plain sight, but as humans we simply said and believed, 'I know I just seen a yellow, not a fucking red now, of course.'
It's water under the bridge now, i suppose, although this card had other repercussions. Namely, his banning from the next liga game for starters, possibly two more i hear. This case will be taken to the courts and the video evidence is irrefutably clear, so hopefully it will only be this one fixture. And what a fixture. We are facing the only team that was able to defeat us this season and now we are weaker than we have been since last season's injury curse...We are misssing Xavi, Dinho, Eto'o, Motta and Belletti.
The only good news is that Kezman and their main leftback will not play due to card accumulation, i think.
Brace yourselves, gents, because we're in for a rough evening.
Oh dear. Didn't see the game but just read the result. 1-3. Thank fuck Eto'o is coming back soon.
uA - 1905
05-02-2006, 20:26
Barca had it coming. They haven't played well this season.
Barca had it coming. They haven't played well this season.
Huh??¿? We aren't playing well at the moment. But this season?¿? Did you not see the Real Vs Barça game. We need to get playing like we did before Xmas, and soon! Before the Chelsea game.
Barca had it coming. They haven't played well this season.
Obviously you haven't been watching La Liga this year. To say Barcelona haven't played well this season is insane.
Nice Dinho clip there Maud, hes such a cool cat.
No way a red card though.
uA - 1905
05-02-2006, 20:53
Huh??¿? We aren't playing well at the moment. But this season?¿? Did you not see the Real Vs Barça game. We need to get playing like we did before Xmas, and soon! Before the Chelsea game.
They did well in the CL, but a lot of close shaves in the league. Barca was saved by individual efforts in some games, but other then that the form is going downhill. Considering Chelsea's form, barca should play much better..
I'm guessing you are joking...
Kluiverte
05-02-2006, 22:42
Barca had it coming. They haven't played well this season.
How many Barca matches have you seen this season? C'mon!
Barca have played more good games than bad. You only had to look at the team selection 2nite to know it was going to be a hard match.
barcelona always have problems with atletico madrid , dunno why. torres is usually the one that gives this problem
Don't lose any sleep over this hiccup. Give them La Liga now, and as soon as Chelsea is left tumbling across the highway, hand Europe to them as well.
Don Sweey
06-02-2006, 07:36
Don't lose any sleep over this hiccup. Give them La Liga now, and as soon as Chelsea is left tumbling across the highway, hand Europe to them as well.
Yep, because Juventus are so obviously weak and couldn't possibly cause an upset :rolleyes:
This defeat wasnt unexpected and i think most of us were already mentallly prepared for it.
I dont want to place blame on anyone for this loss, but if Rijkaard doesnt sign a proper defender next season to take over Oleguer's spot i will lose much respect for him. Oleguer is a clumsy fool and Gabri should do us all a favour and leave.
I watched Chelsea's match last night and i'm not really sweating over our fast approaching encounter but our defensive flanks are weak and that may prove to be our undoing. Oleguer holding Crespo, Drogba or Robben...it's not gonna happen. Any of these players will ridicule him. I would rather have Belletti there because at least he gives good attacking options.
Good news is that Duff picked up some sort of injury last night and Essien was banned from the next couple of CL games for that savage tackle on Hamman.
Couldn't agree more about Gabri. Got to go. And also agree about signing a new defender, one who can play in more then 1 position at the back. We had to loose eventually, at least it wasn't to Real Madrid. Eto'o back and Dinho things are going to improve. Tough game this weekend coming, Valencia away. This is going to be a real test of character. See if we bounce back.
Also pissed of with Espanyol. They didn't turn up for their game against Madrid, made los merengues look good.
Next sundays game will be a test of character against Valencia. Its a 6 pointer. Messi is unavailable as well, muscle strain apparently. 10 days recovery. Lets hope Kluivert does'nt come back to haunt us.
No dinho either, still suspended. I think kluivert is injured so he won't be haunting us.
Yep, because Juventus are so obviously weak and couldn't possibly cause an upset
Yes, and?
Kluiverte
06-02-2006, 20:24
Next match can decide La Liga, it's gonna be hard. Hope the club claim for the red card of Dinho and he finally play against Valencia. Eto'o is back and i'm confident on him... anyway it's gonna be really hard.
Next match can decide La Liga, it's gonna be hard. Hope the club claim for the red card of Dinho and he finally play against Valencia. Eto'o is back and i'm confident on him... anyway it's gonna be really hard.
It's too late to rescind Ronaldinho's red card, as he's already started his suspension.l
Don Sweey
06-02-2006, 21:00
Yes, and?
You've got one hell of a talented side, a talented coach and it all works superbly together. For me, you are, along with Juventus and Chelsea, the strongest side in Europe. What I don't like is when fans get all "we can't beat anyone, just give us the title/European Cup now".
Its never that simple. You just have a better chance than the majority of teams.
Nah I'll never call myself a supporter. I enjoy watching them play as much as anyone though, or more.
Yeah Juve won't just roll over but Chelsea is clearly a more complete side. If Barca manhandle the Blues, Juve might as well change their name to Thermopylae. It'll be valiant, but hopeless.
Valencia vs. Barca, what a game, :rolleyes:
Rumour is Barça are interested in Anton Ferdinand. His on the front cover of 'Mundo Deportivo' I don't know how much truth is in this, but his one for the future. Can play both right back and center back which is useful.
Don Sweey
07-02-2006, 08:00
Nah I'll never call myself a supporter. I enjoy watching them play as much as anyone though, or more.
Yeah Juve won't just roll over but Chelsea is clearly a more complete side. If Barca manhandle the Blues, Juve might as well change their name to Thermopylae. It'll be valiant, but hopeless.
Performances aside though, Juventus are more consistent.
Anyway, let us all hope that Barca give Chelsea a thumping they won't ever forget.
Amen to that.
Although i think that dark times are aproaching. I have a very bad feeling about the Valencia game. :ninja:
Not to rub more salt in the wounds, but those Atletico Madrid goals were pure quality. So was that Kluivert-esque touch by Larsson.
Amen to that.
Although i think that dark times are aproaching. I have a very bad feeling about the Valencia game. :ninja:
First time I've heard you talk about fearness. :tongue:
Valencia haven't lost in ages, and if Valencia do win then they are going to be serious challengers.
Rumour is Barça are interested in Anton Ferdinand. His on the front cover of 'Mundo Deportivo' I don't know how much truth is in this, but his one for the future. Can play both right back and center back which is useful.
I very much doubt this. He is a great young prospect, and may be good enough for Barca one day, but I reckon the whole story is bullshit. And also, he is not a right back.
uA - 1905
07-02-2006, 18:32
How many Barca matches have you seen this season? C'mon!
Oh FFS, I've obviously seen enough games to have such an opinion. I thought it was obvious that Barca was better last year. :shocking:
I don't think so.
Not to rub more salt in the wounds, but those Atletico Madrid goals were pure quality. So was that Kluivert-esque touch by Larsson.
Villa's goal against Depor was pure quality. Both of Torres goals could have been prevented with proper defending. If you look at his goals again you'll see that in both occasions Gabri and Oleguer were marking him...poorly.
Also in the build up to Maxi's goal, Torres gives a through pass to Petrov which Oleguer anticipates but is so friggin slow that the Bulgarian not only caught up with him in miliseconds, he got the ball and sped away with such ease that i started screaming obscenities at the screen.
First time I've heard you talk about fearness. :tongue:
Man, we are missing Ronaldinho, Xavi and Messi. I have faith in the rest of the team but that's just it. It's only faith and they are not gods. Actually, Deco is a football god but there is only so much he can do on his own. :tongue:
you're a defender ?
No. But i defend well so when we dont have proper defenders i play as left or right back because i'm fast. I guess my style of play could be compared to Cicinho's but i favour dmf positions.
:D.
Afterall, you said it, Deco is a football God, Barca should give them a hard time, not the other way around, ;). What do you predict, scoreline?
Sorry to say this, but hopefully 2-1 to Valencia, Villa scoring both. :happy:
Why hopefully?
I think a draw would be a kind result for us at this time but we have good players and if they get it together we can easily win this one.
I never thought i'd say this but i'm glad Eto'o is back in time for this one.
Hoepfully because I didn't want to upset some Barca fans who won't understand my point.
A draw is probably the best result, easily win this? :mellow: I think it will be tougher than the Atletico game. Although, things always change in football.
Will Eto'o play against Valencia Muad?
He comes back on thursday and should be in the line-up.
Possible good news, Ronaldinho could still play this sunday. Tomorrow we will know for certain.
Yes indeed. And i just read that Villa picked up a minor injury in yestreday's training session...
I don't think so.
Villa's goal against Depor was pure quality. Both of Torres goals could have been prevented with proper defending. If you look at his goals again you'll see that in both occasions Gabri and Oleguer were marking him...poorly.
Also in the build up to Maxi's goal, Torres gives a through pass to Petrov which Oleguer anticipates but is so friggin slow that the Bulgarian not only caught up with him in miliseconds, he got the ball and sped away with such ease that i started screaming obscenities at the screen.
Man, we are missing Ronaldinho, Xavi and Messi. I have faith in the rest of the team but that's just it. It's only faith and they are not gods. Actually, Deco is a football god but there is only so much he can do on his own. :tongue:
No. But i defend well so when we dont have proper defenders i play as left or right back because i'm fast. I guess my style of play could be compared to Cicinho's but i favour dmf positions.
The actions leading to those goals were beautiful, and Oleguer should be signed up for vivisection.
Ten Cate and Rijkaard, buy a real defender! :tongue:
Malagacf
08-02-2006, 11:21
i started screaming obscenities at the screen.
Are you on a reality tv show?
Kluiverte
08-02-2006, 18:12
If Ronnie plays the line up should be the following,
---------------------- Valdés -------------------------
--Oleguer------Marquez----------Puyol------------Gio--
---------------------- Edmilson -----------------------
---------Deco------------------------Van Bommel------
-----Giuly--------------Eto'o---------------Ronnie-----
Don Sweey
08-02-2006, 18:53
Don't think its entirely true or will ever happen but Milan are supposedly interested in Rafa Marquez.
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/feb8f.html
Correct, it wouldn't happen. Barca should be looking to strengthen, not weaken, the defence.
Kluiverte
08-02-2006, 20:47
Zaragoza 3 - 1 Madrid on the first half. Zaragoza missing a lot of goal chances...
Just reading the commentry. Very happy to see Zaragoza winning. Diego Milito has a hat-trick.
Seems like Caro has done exactly what Rijkaard did, and is paying the consequences like him too.
I've had to restrain from posting in the Real thread. But 5-1!!
Highway Penguin
08-02-2006, 21:29
Laugh it up. You were knocked out by them too, let us not forget.
Will just have to wait and see what the overall score is over the 2 legs. We made it 5-4. You guys have only got to score 4 goals at home, no problem I mean this is a Real on the up!!
Kluiverte
08-02-2006, 23:46
Laugh it up. You were knocked out by them too, let us not forget.
6-1!!!! Set for Zaragoza!!! What a galactic performance, excellent, Beckham is so handsome...
Shit, Ronaldinho lost his appeal. Apparently he's gonna re-appeal again in the next few hours. Oh yeah, a stunning goal from Ewerthon to make it 6. Almost 7 if the header didn't hit the post. Did you see the Madrid player smash the rebound towards his own goal? Good job Casillas was alert.lmao.
Deco got injured today in training, we'll know tomorrow if he missed the clash. Not looking good.
Barca always manage to hit the injuries just before the Chelsea tie!
Kluiverte
10-02-2006, 10:54
Deco got injured today in training, we'll know tomorrow if he missed the clash. Not looking good.
It's a really bad new, hope he plays on sunday.
Deco hobbled away from Thursday training, but it was merely a precautionary measure and although he will be subjected to further testing on Friday, it is suspected that there is nothing major to worry about.
The Portuguese star hurt himself while taking a shot in training, and ecography was performed on the damaged zone immediately, and doctors judged that there was no major damage. In an official report, it was announced that "the player sprained an isquiotibial muscle in his left leg during Wednesday training".
Further testing will be performed on Friday just in case, and "whatever progress he has made will determine his availability to play on Sunday".Source (http://www.fcbarcelona.com/eng/noticias/noticias/n06020904.shtml)
All is well, fellas. Let's stay calm. :)
Kluiverte
10-02-2006, 20:45
It's confirmed that Dinho won't play against Valencia.
It's a conspiracy, i tell you!
I just read that Deco might not go and it wont be known until tomorrow. If he doesnt then this game is as good as lost.
Messi is definitely missing this one. We're screwed.
They are also missing a few players. Kluiverte, Mista and Marchena. Villa might miss out as well which would leave them without their main strikers!
Don Sweey
10-02-2006, 21:43
They need Aimar to step up to the plate.
I take it Eto'o is back for Barca?
He is indeed. I'm actually overreacting a little. If Deco goes to Mestalla we will still be able to field a strong line-up.
I believe these are the players that are making the trip to Valencia;
Valdes, Oleguer, Marquez, Puyol, Gio, Edmilson, Bommel, Iniesta, Deco, Eto'o, Giuly, Larsson, Maxi, Gabri, Jorquera, Sylvinho.
Valencia also have another dangerous midfielder apart from Aimar, Hugo Viana.
Don Sweey
10-02-2006, 22:03
Do you think Rijkaard will be tempted to play both Eto'o and Larsson? And if so, do you think he'll play two in attack or Larsson right up with Eto'o sitting behind (but closer than is normally the case in the usual formation)?
If Deco cannot make it then i suppose he might be forced to use such a tactic (two upfront) but i doubt it.
I forgot to mention Ezquerro, which will probably be taking over the left flank. If this guy gets it together he can be a great threat but he hasnt done shit all season long.
Personally, i would like to see how an Eto'o and Larsson partnership would work out but i think he will just use the usual 4-3-3 like so;
-------------Valdes---------------
Oleguer---Rafa------Puyol------Gio
-------------Edmilson-------------
------Bommel---------Iniesta------
Giuly----------Eto'o----------Santi
Subs: Jorquera, Larsson, Gabri, Sylvinho, Maxi.
Ezquerro has done nothing all season as he has only been given the rare sub appearance and games which don't matter, i.e. Udinese in the Champions League. It's harsh criticising him for doing nothing when he's not had the chance to do squat.
Also Rijkaard has used both Larsson and Eto'o together in a 4-3-3 in the past, so I don't think that using them both is out of the question.
I know he has used them both before but not with them partnering up-front with midfield back-up. He would still use the same formation with Eto'o on the wing and Larsson in the middle.
I was referring to something of this kind;
--Giuly-----Bommel-----Santi
--------Eto'o----Larsson----
As opposed to this;
------Iniesta-------Bommel----
Eto'o-------Larsson-------Santi
Ezquerro has started in quite a few games and he has had plenty of chances to shine. His finishing has been very poor. We'll see how it goes tomorrow night.
Kluiverte
11-02-2006, 14:38
It's a conspiracy, i tell you!
I just read that Deco might not go and it wont be known until tomorrow. If he doesnt then this game is as good as lost.
Messi is definitely missing this one. We're screwed.
They are also missing a few players. Kluiverte, Mista and Marchena. Villa might miss out as well which would leave them without their main strikers!
I think Ayala is also out of the match.
Apart from that here's the last bad new, Deco is definitely out of the match. It's gonna be hard, really hard. Anyway i have no doubts on FCB, the league will be ours.
Interesting match tonight, Athletic de Bilabo - Madrid.
codename 47
11-02-2006, 17:23
Can't believe ronaldinho ban hasn't been overturned,wasn't a sending off at all
Some of the refereeing performances i've seen from the spanish refs are causing me some concern,from the second leg cup game-barca vs zaragoza to the Espanyol vs depor the other day
Nearly a week to go till the champions league tie,i to let you know i'll be in the barca thread alot more to the build up to the game as i will become a barca supporter for the two games :mellow:
You support Madrid but you want Barca to win? Good on you mate.
Yes good for you, but don't expect me to be cheering Real on against Arsenal. I can't stand to see Real win. Come on you Gunners.
Well my old friend Valdes does it again. Does a hospital ball straight to Villa who then does a nice lob over Valdes making him look like the twat he is.Flipao de mierda. 1-0 first half. Giuly went off injured. We have had a few shots but no great chances. Valencia have had the better chances although we have had more possesion. I just hope we can get something out of this.
Highway Penguin
12-02-2006, 21:21
Shame about Giuly, he was doing well. Belletti is now on for Oleguer, so Rijkaard is obviously trying to go more offensive. You guys really miss Xavi and Ronaldinho.
Rough game...
Fucking Valdes lost us that game. To loose to a goal like that makes it worse. We started to play some good football in the second half when Belletti came on. I'm pleased with our overall preformance I felt a draw would of been a fair result. Things can only get better, Dinho, Messi and Deco will hopefully be back. Puyol is the best defender in the world IMO. That guy is Barça never gives up never surrenders.
There was no cutting edge at all by Barca tonight. Xavi, Deco, Ronaldinho and Messi were all missed badly. No real chances were created besides the Larsson one, which he probably should've scored.
Eto'o needs to be told that he is not a god. He played tonight like he felt he was the best player on the pitch and everyone else- on both teams- were inferior. He was very selfish, and thought that he could run through the whole team. He is the top goalscorer, and he should not play as far deep as he did tonight. Also, he was too reluctant to pass the ball. It was like he thought that the other players would fuck up, and he failed to realise that it was he who was harming the team.
Valencia though were excellent. They were totally un-Spanish like, they were defensively solid and were closing down the Barca players in numbers before they could do anything. They played the counter attack extremely well too, Aimar and Villa looked like scoring way more than Larsson and Eto'o did.
As for Valdes, he may have been the one responsible for losing the game, but you can't be terribly harsh on him. He did make a decent save or two and generally this season has been fairly sound. Coming down too heavily on the lad may have adverse consequences, like destoying his confidence.
I don't really think that Barca deserved anything from the game. Valencia were first to every ball, and looked a yard sharper, and more prepared. I reckon that 1-0 was a fair reflection of the game, in terms of the result and the way the game panned out.
I felt the first half they were the better team. Van Bommel and Edmilson were playing at a very slow pace. We really miss Xavinho. I just don't rate Valdes. He cost us a win against Valencia at the Nou Camp and tonight he lost us the game for being careless. I think with the players we had we did well. With our full team we would of beaten them.
I felt the first half they were the better team. Van Bommel and Edmilson were playing at a very slow pace. We really miss Xavinho. I just don't rate Valdes. He cost us a win against Valencia at the Nou Camp and tonight he lost us the game for being careless. I think with the players we had we did well. With our full team we would of beaten them.
Yeah I am agree with you......but Victor Valdez......what an idiot!
Eto'o needs to be told that he is not a god. He played tonight like he felt he was the best player on the pitch and everyone else- on both teams- were inferior. He was very selfish, and thought that he could run through the whole team. He is the top goalscorer, and he should not play as far deep as he did tonight. Also, he was too reluctant to pass the ball. It was like he thought that the other players would fuck up, and he failed to realise that it was he who was harming the team.
You have just described Eto'o's style of play. He always plays like this, only when Deco, Ronaldinho and Xavi play you don't notice because they have the ball most of the time. Eto'o is a selfish player with an attitude and a superiority complex. He thinks he is the shit, and the truth is that he is a good shot and excellent poacher, but is not a team player. He always kills the plays by holding the ball for an unnecessarily long time. Tonight was a perfect example of what he is like without good service. I say sell the fool to Chelsea and bring in Drogba. Now that's a team player with a good positive attitude.
Ezquerro really disappoints me. I was expecting a lot more from this man.
Puyol was brilliant and so was Marquez.
Edmilson was grand. Rijkaard should always put him in front of Rafa and Puyol.
Iniesta did well but he wasn't getting good support. This kid is very creative and needs someone like Deco or Ronnie for those quick 1-2 plays that he likes to pull every now and then to cut through he middle.
Bommel wasn't into it and Gio showed that he can be a real threat. T'was a good night for him.
Oleguer is worthless so he needs to be sold or given away ASAFP. He is a complete waste of space. The only reason he is in the team is because he is catalan, dirt cheap and well connected. I can't believe fools like him play pro football. Belletti is better by far. He is decent when defending and very good offensively.
Valdes was not under pressure yet he literally passed the ball to Villa. I feel bad for him but that bastard handed them the game.
In all fairness i don't think that Valencia deserve the win because even though we were missing so many key players we still managed to control most of the game. I'm actually happy with tonight's performance.
I feel bad for Betis because they are coming to the Camp Nou next Saturday and will be made an example of. :D
Wonderful. I always knew Villa would score and win the game for Valencia, :happy:
Kluiverte
13-02-2006, 08:58
We could have beaten them yesterday, fucking Valdes... Anyway i'm happy with the team's attitude, they fighted a lot but Valdes let it go to waste.
Wonderful. I always knew Villa would score and win the game for Valencia, :happy:
Yaaay! :rolleyes:
You have just described Eto'o's style of play. He always plays like this, only when Deco, Ronaldinho and Xavi play you don't notice because they have the ball most of the time. Eto'o is a selfish player with an attitude and a superiority complex. He thinks he is the shit, and the truth is that he is a good shot and excellent poacher, but is not a team player. He always kills the plays by holding the ball for an unnecessarily long time. Tonight was a perfect example of what he is like without good service. I say sell the fool to Chelsea and bring in Drogba. Now that's a team player with a good positive attitude.
Ezquerro really disappoints me. I was expecting a lot more from this man.
Puyol was brilliant and so was Marquez.
Edmilson was grand. Rijkaard should always put him in front of Rafa and Puyol.
Iniesta did well but he wasn't getting good support. This kid is very creative and needs someone like Deco or Ronnie for those quick 1-2 plays that he likes to pull every now and then to cut through he middle.
Bommel wasn't into it and Gio showed that he can be a real threat. T'was a good night for him.
Oleguer is worthless so he needs to be sold or given away ASAFP. He is a complete waste of space. The only reason he is in the team is because he is catalan, dirt cheap and well connected. I can't believe fools like him play pro football. Belletti is better by far. He is decent when defending and very good offensively.
Valdes was not under pressure yet he literally passed the ball to Villa. I feel bad for him but that bastard handed them the game.
In all fairness i don't think that Valencia deserve the win because even though we were missing so many key players we still managed to control most of the game. I'm actually happy with tonight's performance.
I feel bad for Betis because they are coming to the Camp Nou next Saturday and will be made an example of. :D
I can't be more agree with you, actually i expected more of Ezquerro and Larsson this 2006 but they are not working properly.
It would be good to sell Eto'o and buy Henry, i can't even imagine Ronnie-Henry-Messi attack ><
Also, Rijkaard should give more minutes to Giuly, he is a good player :\
Belletti is better by far. He is decent when defending and very good offensively.
What!?
I think Belleti is better than oleguer, i preffer when reiziger played tough
reiziger is pretty solid and he's pretty fast too , but i think belleti should be used as a winger or a defensive midfield on the right , rather than being a ful back
Highway Penguin
15-02-2006, 02:24
Oleguer is having a really good season. If you want a defensively stable and offensively capable right back, you've got it in him.
You lot were lucky to get Ezquerro, shame he doesn't play much as he's a really good winger when given the chance. Hopefully he can get out of Barcelona and to a team where they'll use him to his full potential.
Oh on the last game, you were outplayed the first half and part of the 2nd half. Valdes needs to get his stuff straight as he's a pretty sure bet to go to Germany and if he makes stupid little mistakes like that he'll never see the field. Which I wouldn't mind. Only thing I don't like about that guy is how he doesn't think sometimes.
Go work Valencia. La Liga is a three horse race...Are you guys ready to lose to Betis this weekend? ;)
Casillas
15-02-2006, 03:41
Haha, Hala Betis!
What!?
That's right, amigo. I said it, he is a decent defender. Notice the emphasis in decent? Honestly, i prefer having Belleti in that position. He may not be as good as Oleguer defensively (:laugh:) but he makes up for it with good attacking plays.
Oleguer is having a really good season. If you want a defensively stable and offensively capable right back, you've got it in him.
That's complete and utter nonsense. He is one of the most insecure players i have ever seen. He does make the rare dash forward but the rest of the team is always reluctant to give him the ball, which is plain to see. He is 100% one of the weak links in the squad.
You lot were lucky to get Ezquerro, shame he doesn't play much as he's a really good winger when given the chance. Hopefully he can get out of Barcelona and to a team where they'll use him to his full potential.
He has had plenty of chances to shine and even in Bilbao he was mostly a sub as i recall. Besides, no one is saying get rid of Ezquerro. We can apreciate good players unlike other disloyal clubs that have a tendency to sack and sell people because they lose a couple of games...
I'd rather have Belletti at right back then Oleguer. When Belletti came on we looked a different team. We are a team that likes to attack so why stick a player at rightback who doesnt know how to attack. Ok, yes, his better defensively but we all want too see attacking football, so be it if we have to win 4-3. Belletti had a few injuries and run of bad form but after seeing him against Valencia I hope he gets his place back, and keeps Oleguer out of the starting XI FOREVER!
I would rather see Belletti at full back than Oleguer, however I don't think that either of them are close to being world class.
I would rather see Belletti at full back than Oleguer, however I don't think that either of them are close to being world class.
Very true. I just hope this summer we sign someone decent for that position. Hopefully we will show what we are really made of against Betis. 2 loses in the league in a row is more then enough!
A week until the big clash. I'm so excited. I hope its as exciting as last years tie, but this time we take the gold.
I would rather see Belletti at full back than Oleguer, however I don't think that either of them are close to being world class.
Undeniably true.
A week until the big clash. I'm so excited. I hope its as exciting as last years tie, but this time we take the gold.
I think we will, compadre, i think we will.
Good news everyone!(said like the professor from Futurama) Messi is ready and raring to go, but won't play this weekend. Rijkaard is keeping him in his cage until Wednesday. Deco is back and Motta is also back. Not so slighty good news but Ezquerro will probably be in the starting XI due to the fact giuly is injured. Looking forward to seeing Ronaldinho and Eto'o team up again. :w00t
codename 47
16-02-2006, 13:34
Does anyone have any news on Xavi? i know that Raul's nearly fit but i'm wondering if Xavi's likely to be fit before the world cup or before the end of the season?
6 days till the big clash :cool:
He's supposedly ment to be back in may, a month ahead of schedule. I'd still take him to the finals, even if he isn't 100%.
Edit: Some possible bad news guys. Puyol left training early after taking a knock to his left knee, Belletti too had to finish training early due a knock to the back of his knee. I hope they are nothing serious because we will be missing Marquez this weekend due to suspension. Let you know when I hear more.
Other news, Larssons found a new team for next season. His signed a year and a half contract with Helsingborg.
He has had plenty of chances to shine and even in Bilbao he was mostly a sub as i recall. Besides, no one is saying get rid of Ezquerro. We can apreciate good players unlike other disloyal clubs that have a tendency to sack and sell people because they lose a couple of games...
very true, he had several chances in Copa del rey and some Liga games and he has not played well, i hope vs. Betis he'll shine
Highway Penguin
16-02-2006, 22:50
That's complete and utter nonsense. He is one of the most insecure players i have ever seen. He does make the rare dash forward but the rest of the team is always reluctant to give him the ball, which is plain to see. He is 100% one of the weak links in the squad.
He has had plenty of chances to shine and even in Bilbao he was mostly a sub as i recall. Besides, no one is saying get rid of Ezquerro. We can apreciate good players unlike other disloyal clubs that have a tendency to sack and sell people because they lose a couple of games...
He's capable at it, not the best. If you want someone who will get forward and all that jazz, Belletti is definately the guy to go with, but he isn't defensively solid, imo. From what I've seen from Oleguer this year, he's been good. A lot of Barca fans I've talked to think he deserves a call to the NT. I don't think so.
He's had two starts and 9 substitute appearances, according to SkySports. I really don't think that's much of a chance. I don't think there are many players who can come on for 10 minutes and really show you their full potential. Ezquerro was a pretty solid fixture in Athletic Club's starting 11. He scored a bit too. I know no one is saying too, but I think he'd be better off at a club like Villarreal. He'd play more often that's for sure.
PS- Ok. :rolleyes:
Eto'o picked up African player of the year award tonight. Well done to him. First player to win it 3 times.
A lot of Barca fans I've talked to think he deserves a call to the NT. I don't think so.
Aragones invited him along with Xavi, Puyol and Valdes to a meeting the NT squad had before chirstmas i believe...It doesnt mean he is going but there is a chance. Crazy, i know.
Strong possibility that Puyol won't play. Neither is Belletti nor Marquez. So the backline will probably consist of Edmilson and Oleguer with Gio and Gabri on the sides. They have fast wingers and an absolute and shameless diver as forward called Dani.
The way i see it, we'll just have to score more than them...
There were more than 30 players there I believe, so a lot of players from that group will miss out.
Puyol is fit to play, so its just up to Rijkaard whether to play him or not. I personally wouldn't risk him. But then again a back line cosisting of Gio-Edmilson-Oleguer-Gabri is going to leak goals. Will just have to wait and see mañana.
Yep, let's hope if Motta plays, will help defense (i don't like him tough)
Motta is not bad at all. One of the few left from the old days. That guy can really kick it and is strong defensively.
Game starts in four hours.
I'm a big fan of Motta, his not afraid to get stuck in and his tall and strong, we have very few midfielders with his kind of presence. Shame he has had so many injury problems, if he can get playing regulary be great for the team.
Motta is not bad at all. One of the few left from the old days. That guy can really kick it and is strong defensively.
Game starts in four hours.
I am very agree with you.....plus he has a great shoot....
Well, 5-1, a bit of luck tough
I'm happy because they win and some players played very well. However, Valdes did another mistake and you know that Chelsea will take advantage of any mistake.
Motta is a good player, i didn't like before because he liked yellow cards lol
Barca play pretty well......and impressive Victor Valdes and Dinho magic make a great victory for Barca.....the bad was the defense......Oleguer dont play well and Puyol cant do al the job in the defense......hopefully Victor have great reflexes and Betis can score only 1 goal.....I was surprise with Eto´o job.....play an amazing match in the first half, sometimes plying like a right back, covering the bad job of Belleti and then do a great partnership with Dinho in Barca attacks.....for bad luck I cant see play Messi, but he scores a goal......great for Barca, but like the journalists in my country said, Barca need to improve the defense, because vs Chelsea we will lost for a lot of goals......
Scarface
19-02-2006, 03:49
Here's the Messi (http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=MessiBetis.zip) goal, Nedy.
Quite a large file considering it's just one goal, 16mb.
Keyser Soze
19-02-2006, 04:37
Ah, I saw that at the end. Eto'o really wanted a goal tonight, then Messi comes on and instantly scores, although it was good work by Eto'o to carve his way through the two centre backs.
Who were all the scorers tonight? :mellow:
Scarface
19-02-2006, 04:48
Barca:
Larsson
Melli og
Melli og
Ronaldinho
Messi
Betis:
Joaquin
I think it's safe to say, not a good night for Melli.
Both own goals were incredibly bad luck. I like Toni Doblas, he is a great keeper, and i feel really bad for him but the other three goals were quite nice. Specially the first one. The team played wonderfully. I think everyone did well. Valdes made countless saves. Joaquin's cheeky free kick wasnt unstoppable but it was very well placed and unexpected so we can't blame the keeper for letting that in.
Eto'o really surprised me today. He was actually passing the ball and trying to be more part of the play than the end of it. He didn't score any goals but in my opinion this was one of his best performances. He seemed more relaxed, not bent on scoring at all costs, which don't get me wrong is a good thing, just not all the time.
Belletti was also very defensive today. Perhaps due to his recent injury he didn't want to over exert himself or risk being unnecessarily injured again. He made a crucial interception in the second half where he tackled the ball away from the attacker in mid air and from behind.
Deco, inmense.
Ronaldinho, amazing.
Puyol, OMG.
Sylvinho, impressive skills.
Iniesta, hasn't been himself lately but tremendous nontheless.
Larsson, wants to leave a good impression and he will if he keeps this up.
Messi, WTF did he come from? Talk about secret weapons. :D
Edmilson, great DMF and CB. He deserves a spot in the NT.
This is what i am hoping will be the team that Rijkaard fields against Chelsea;
--------------------Valdes------------------
Belleti------Marquez--------Puyol---------Gio
--------------------------------------------
-------------------Edmilson-----------------
---------Bommel--------------Deco---------
Messi----------------------------------Dinho
--------------------Eto'o-------------------
I agree with the team, get Oleguer out! Belletti looked a bit rusty last night but hopefully gives a good performance agaisnt chelsea, not like last year. I love Puyol, best defender in the world. If only we could have 3 more Puyols. I can't wait to see our magic trio against Chelsea.
I'm totally agree with the team, and if is not belleti it could be gabri, it's not that bad.
will anton ferdinand be a good replacement for oleguer ? HELL YEAH !
When comeback the "playman" Xavi Hernandez?
I am really looking forward to the Messi and Del Horno clash. I think Messi will get a yellow and probably a red out of Del Horno. Although i have a feeling that Mourinho will put Gallas on the left.
This is what i am hoping will be the team that Rijkaard fields against Chelsea;
--------------------Valdes------------------
Belleti------Marquez--------Puyol---------Gio
--------------------------------------------
-------------------Edmilson-----------------
---------Bommel--------------Deco---------
Messi----------------------------------Dinho
--------------------Eto'o-------------------
I heard on TV that Rijkaard is planning to play both Motta and Edmilson in a defensive move. I'm not to sure what to make of that, I think the attacking trio may get a little isolated with only Deco supporting them.
I heard on TV that Rijkaard is planning to play both Motta and Edmilson in a defensive move. I'm not to sure what to make of that, I think the attacking trio may get a little isolated with only Deco supporting them.
Might work, Iniesta is a great player but I feel he preforms better when he comes off the bench and I can see him getting muscled out by Chelsea's midfield. And Van Bommel hasn't been playing his best since he came back from his injury so it could be a smart move. And both Edmilson and Motta have attacking abilities. Anyone know what Chelsea's likely lineup will be?
Don Sweey
20-02-2006, 21:03
I'm not so sure the front three will be isolated actually. I think they'll thirve in the formation.
Yes, Motta can be a great threat. He has scored awesome long rangers in the past. If this is indeed the tactic that will be used then i would like to see Deco in the right flank. He might link up well with Messi.
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Kluiverte
21-02-2006, 13:06
Impressive match tomorrow, as some of you say Motta will probably be on the starting eleven what is a great new for me. I don't know why but i'm absolutely confident on the team especially in the ultramotivated Ronaldinho that uses to make his best on the important matches.
It's said that Mourinho is worried about Messi... It'd be the same for me if I was him...
codename 47
21-02-2006, 14:08
What's the likelyhood of Oleguer starting tommorow?
Well he or Belletti will play right back so theres a 50-50 chance.
Good news, Gallas will miss tomorrows game.
I like Gallas and a good challenge but these are good news indeed.
Gonna be a brilliant game, hope Maximus wins tonight.
Lets hope the Barca defense are on form and the Chelsea defense are not.
You have a better chance of beating us now seeing as Billy Gallas is ruled out with injury
Don Sweey
22-02-2006, 11:06
I hope its a good game for Barcelona. I'll be watching with intent tonight and am keen to see them do very well.
codename 47
22-02-2006, 13:39
Come on Barca after madrid's pitiful performance last night a good barca win would cheer me up - as strange as that sounds :huh:
That is strange coming from a Madrid fan.
With Ronaldinho, Eto'oinho and Messinho the Chelsea back 4 are going to have their work cut out. Glad Del Horno is playing and not Gallas. Because he lacks pace and well Messinho has that in abundance.
codename 47
22-02-2006, 19:08
Ronaldinho,Messi and Et'oo start and i think Marquez is back. Oleguer's at right back with Gio at left back
Full teams:
Cech; Ferreira, Terry, Carvalho, Del Horno; Makelele, Gudjohnsen, Lampard, J. Cole, Robben; Crespo.
Valdes; Oleguer, Puyol, Marquez, Gio; Edmilson, Motta, Deco; Messi, Ronaldinho, Eto'o.
Well done Barca!
Where the better team, had more possesion and provided a masterclass at the bridge. Messi tormented chelsea alongside Ronaldhinho and edmilson and Motta provided the steal in the centre of midfield. And the own goal was unlucky.
Though del hornos sending off was a turning point, had he not been sent off the score might of been different. Messi was the star of the show.
ThierryHenry14
22-02-2006, 21:50
well done barca just do it again at home then chelsea will be out well done
Viperized
22-02-2006, 21:53
Well done Barca.
I hope you'll mince the mugs at Nou Camp!
I am really looking forward to the Messi and Del Horno clash. I think Messi will get a yellow and probably a red out of Del Horno. Although i have a feeling that Mourinho will put Gallas on the left.
*clap clap*
This guy is ahead of time! Where do I sign up?
:shocking:
The whole team did well. Defended brilliant for once. Fully deserved the win I feel. 2 away goals could of been more.
Rangers_Fureva
22-02-2006, 22:03
Yes yes yes!!
Have that Chelsea, Barca can handle your shitty pitch!
Havn't seen the game yet, taped it so i'm off to watch it.:cool:
Barca were very lucky, what with the ref and all, but meh.
Well maybe shouldn't of been a straight red but then he didnt get a card for that horrible tackle he did 5 minutes earlier on Messi. We had more chances and tried to play nice football but on a pitch like that what do you expect.
Dragonfly
22-02-2006, 22:20
I think Del Horno should've been sent off. I don't think the challenge was a straight red, but it made up for the other one a few minutes before.
Viperized
22-02-2006, 22:25
Barca were dominating the match. Messi was immense - he was class. He gave trouble to the Chelsea defence each time he got the ball. Flair, skill, pace... he's got it all!
Dragonfly
22-02-2006, 22:28
I never realised Messi was a strong player, especially when he battled with Robben, just before Del Horno's red card.
I think Del Horno should've been sent off. I don't think the challenge was a straight red, but it made up for the other one a few minutes before.
*Nods in agreement*.He got his comeuppance
*clap clap*
This guy is ahead of time! Where do I sign up?
:shocking:
I saw the Del Horno booking coming a week ago. That straight red may not have been fair but it was inevitable. Yossi, how dare you say we were lucky!? We absolutely outplayed them, even before the sending off we had total control of the match. THEY were lucky we didn't score more!
Oleguer's greatest performance EVER!
Haha couldn't agree more about Oleguer. Great fucking performance from him. I just hope he can keep playing like that.
Yeah, but what was he thinking when he gave away the foul which resulted in Chelsea's goal? Robben was going nowhere and he just booted him.
Yossi ssshhhh let him have his moment, poor sod.
Yeah, but what was he thinking when he gave away the foul which resulted in Chelsea's goal? Robben was going nowhere and he just booted him.
Shit like that always happens and he gave plenty of bad decisions in Chelsea's favour.
Yossi ssshhhh let him have his moment, poor sod.
What the fuck is that supposed to mean?
I was referring to Oleguer's lack of brains by fouling him, and he was saying I should let him have his moment of glory.
Don Sweey
22-02-2006, 22:43
Muad, he's talking about letting Oleguer get some praise for once and not briging up his mistake in fouling Robben.
EDIT: Beaten to it
Yes I should really quote, my bad Muad.
Sorry, lads, my bad! I am so euphoric at the moment i can't see or think straight! :happy:
Scarface
22-02-2006, 22:54
Messi was immense - he was class. He gave trouble to the Chelsea defence each time he got the ball. Flair, skill, pace... he's got it all!
He is something else, such a joy to watch.
What a match!!!! Barca I love you!! Barca show a great game, with Messi like Barca star......a pride that this guy is an Argentinian.....Rafa Marquez was inmense too and play a great match with Puyol in the back.....the team play very well in the defense......I really like Edmilson like DMF......Oleguer surprise me with his attacks.....great for Barca......
Very bad the Del Horno attitude......stupid man.....great for the referee that show him the red car......
I hope that Barca show this game in the next match and pass to the next round......
codename 47
23-02-2006, 11:40
Good win for Barca ,thank god rjkaard chose to start messi as he caused chelsea all sorts of problems
But the jobs only half done ,but i think Barca should be strong enough at the Nou camp and i can't see them not scoring there either
Kluiverte
23-02-2006, 14:36
I'm so fucking happy! Yesterday was a great night for us... Happy of looking to the Mourinho's face... bastard.
How proud of FCB I am!
Great game by Barca yesterday. Del Horno is such an idiot :laugh:
Del Horno had one thing on his mind,Stop Messi at all costs. He deserved to walk no question. I just wish that we beat Chelski with 11 v 11 just to shut Jose up.Barca were the best team by far,even before the red card we were dominant. Camp Nou will show Chelski how to play proper football rather than beach football at the bridge.Messi is the boy becoming the main man.
Deco seemed to be playing too leisurely at some point..almost as if toying with their midfielders. :)
The highlight of the eveining was definitely Marquez's left foot cross to Eto'o. I was watching this game in a place packed with people and they all went silent as he kicked it and sent it flying towards the goal. I could not help but yell This is it! and bam! Eto'o comes in flying and beats Cech with that wonderful header. The cheering and screaming that ensued was deafening. :happy:
Marquez's cross, did you at one point think it was too close to the keeper?
i did, then it just curled away directly to Eto'os head.Brill cross and Messi was unlucky with the curler that beat Cech and hit the bar...shame.
messi and edmilson were brilliant again at that match , and surprisingly , oleguer wasn't all taht bad too
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Kluiverte
24-02-2006, 19:58
I just stumbled upon this wonderfull website with great highlight videos of all of Barcelona's fixtures this year. Enjoy! (http://www.fcbarcelonaclan.com/index-video.html)
Execellent website! I've entered into the forum of this website and i've wondered how many french barca supporters there are there.
Visit the videos section, great.
Tough game this weekend. Zaragoza away. Could be tricky. Ronaldinho was a doubt because of a slight injury, but his fine now and should start. If we can play like on wednesday then will be fine I feel.
After wednesday's victory i fear no one. We will prevail this saturday, brothas. I expect a 0-3. That's right, complete blaugrana domination.
Don Sweey
25-02-2006, 11:47
I'm thinking 2-2, but we shall see. I expect Diego Milito to score one.
Kluiverte
25-02-2006, 15:57
After wednesday's victory i fear no one. We will prevail this saturday, brothas. I expect a 3-0. That's right, complete blaugrana domination.
We'll win 1-3 or 2-4, COMPLETE BLAUGRANA DOMINATION!
It certainly hasn't been the complete domination that some of you were cockily predicting.
It all kicked off in the last few minutes though, Samuel Eto'o nearly walked off the pitch due to the disgusting racial chants coming from the terraces. Then Albert Celades denied a certain goal by handling on the line, and was rightly sent off. Ronaldinho converted the penalty to give the Barca the lead.
Larsson has just added to that, 2-0 Barca.
It's all going off at La Romareda. In the past three minutes, Eto'o has stormed off the pitch, only to be persuaded to stay on, Zaragoza had player sent off for a great save, shame he wasn't the keeper, and then Ronaldinho scored the penalty.
Back to the Eto'o incident, it shows that racism in Spain needs to be sorted out, it's getting no better and it's giving the country a bad reputation. Also, when a team has black players playing for them, why do the fans make racist taunts? Senseless.
And while I was typing, Barca just scored a second, and it was created by Eto'o. Hope that shuts the Zaragoza fans.
EDIT: Seems I was beaten to this.
Eto'o might as well just come to Chelsea. He isn't going to get any racial abuse there. Eto'o to Chelsea, Henry to Barca, everyone is happy.
Dragonfly
25-02-2006, 23:43
Eto'o might as well just come to Chelsea. He isn't going to get any racial abuse there. Eto'o to Chelsea, Henry to Barca, everyone is happy.
What, and you think Henry won't get any racial abuse in Spain? Eto'o to join Henry at Arsenal (I wish).
Edmilson was robbed of what could have been a wonderful volley.
Anyway, possesion in the end was 65%-35%. We may not have completely dominated the game but still, we won so i'm certainly not complaining. :happy:
I would rather keep a young Eto'o than a slightly older Henry at Barca. Eto'o has a lot of years ahead of him and he's still learning. The rascist comments towards Eto'o was disgusting.I'm glad he shut them up with the set up,shame he didnt score tho.
How old is Eto'o?
And by the way....I am the 2000th post :D
Hes's 24 if im not mistaken.Congrats on the 2000th post, i missed it by 1.
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