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posts your thoughts and discussion of the world famous FC barcelona , like other club team threads .
GOALKEEPERS
1. VALDÉS
25. JORQUERA
28. RUBEN
DEFENDERS
2. BELLETTI
4. MÁRQUEZ
5. PUYOL
12. BRONCKHORST
15. EDMÍLSON
16. SYLVINHO
19. FERNANDO
23. OLEGUER
32. DAMIA
MIDFIELD PLAYERS
22. DEMETRIO ALBERTINI
3. MOTTA
6. XAVI
10. RONALDINHO
14. EZQUERRO
17. VAN BOMMEL
18. GABRI
20. DECO
24. INIESTA
FORWARDS
7. LARSSON
8. GIULY
9. ETO'O
11. MAXI LOPEZ
30. LEO MESSI
http://www.uefa.com/ml/images/clubphoto/600x400//50080.jpg
FORÇA BARCELONA
what can i say...? they are one of my favourite club team! i hope they could beat chelsea in the UEFA champions league and proof that money is not the way to victory!
Kluiverte
03-02-2005, 11:37
That's good! An official treath for the greatest team ;) good idea Pier69.
What do you think about the game against Chelsea? I think it'll be the most impressive match until now on CL, hope Barça beat them but it will be hard!
One thing Pier69, you've to enclose ALBERTINI (22) and MAXI LOPEZ (11) as new FCB players.
Greetings!
oh yeah , sorry bout that i'ma edit it now , is maxi lopez playin now ?
You missed out Sylvinho too.
He's a defender (left back), wears the number 16 shirt.
I thought you were a Juve fan? ;) Well Barca's my fav spanish team too, so I'll look at this through my fingers. :p
Obviously his avatar tells it all.
Perhaps this thread's for those interested in Barcelona, like most people are. Interesting players, nice play, a lot of stuff to discuss.
Barcelona's my favourite Spanish team too, after Real Madrid :D
-=[101st]=-
03-02-2005, 14:13
nah he is just after the viewing points.. he has seen how popular the Real Madrid thread has been, and highway has earned like 800points via just the views...
I love watching Barca play. The attacking players they have are so exciting, it's great for a neutral to watch.
I think the signing of Albertini is a bit silly, what is he... 34 now?
I'm really looking forward to seeing the Barc avs Chelski game... formidable attack against watertight defence. Should be a great match.
Loathing Chelski as I do, I think I will be completely neutral for that game.
=-']nah he is just after the viewing points.. he has seen how popular the Real Madrid thread has been, and highway has earned like 800points via just the views...
I don't think he's that desperate is he???
800 points are just points, it's the popualrity of the thread that counts. Should be a successful thread this, and not sink into the next pages of the Football Forum after just 2 or 3 days.
Guillermo
03-02-2005, 17:07
Personally, I would say Ludovic Giuly is more of a midfielder than a forward. He plays on the wing or as an offensive midfielder mostly. He was certainly a major part of the Monaco midfield last year, with Rothen, but he's gone to PSG.
I agree too.
Though there are many squads which also list players in their best position, rather than the one they usually play in.
United's team squad shows Cristiano Ronaldo and Ryan Giggs as forwards. Bellion too even though he plays right wing more often.
And Guti is a forward on Real Madrid's squad list.
Guillermo
03-02-2005, 17:27
They do it on PES as well don't they? They count wingers as forwards, that really bugs me.
Barcelona are my favourite Spanish team aswell. I've always thought they were a more "friendly" team in comparison to the multi-million spending, ego-led, racist bunch of Kings and Queens for the "higher class" fans in Madrid.
I seriously hope they hammer Chelsea, can't have them winning the quadruple.
A word about the amazing Samuel Eto'o, I have always thought of him as a good striker whilst at Mallorca and I think it was a good signing when he first joined, but I did not expect him to be notching up goals week in week out, what a phenomenon. Probably more valuable than Ronaldinho so far this season.
=-']nah he is just after the viewing points.. he has seen how popular the Real Madrid thread has been, and highway has earned like 800points via just the views...
u can get points cuz of the views ? i thought u gotta post or gamble to get points , anyway thats cool , i start this thread cuz i have respect to barcelona too , but i can't watch their matches and maybe i can see news and updates here and rumours too , so not only it benefits me , but it also benefits the barcelona fans out there too
mestre dinho
04-02-2005, 18:27
Barcelona has a great squad who is playing very well at the moment..the only think they have to improve is their defence and their reserve squad... but as they play atacking entertaining football, i think that they are OK .... if they start buying players who have big egos the team spirit will go down ...... do FORÇA BARCELONA!!!!!!!!!!
Highway Penguin
05-02-2005, 06:54
Cool stuff.
You guys will be able to take down Chelsea.
I have confidence in you. ;)
Can anyone guess a score line?
Barcelona 1 - 1 Chelsea
Chelsea 3 - 1 Barcelona
That'll be 4-2 on aggregate to Chelski ;)
Casillas
05-02-2005, 11:00
2-0
1-1 for me
Barça 3-1 on aggregate
fattyronaldo
05-02-2005, 11:31
sry but i think chelseas will go thru.
Casillas
05-02-2005, 11:36
well I guess we'll see ;)
good idea for a thread mate, ive always followed barcelona ever since Sir Bob took charge and when Ronaldo was the greatest thing ive ever seen
Massimo Moratti has dismissed claims that have suggested Internazionale could bid for Ronaldinho in the summer.
The Milanese giants have been linked with Barca's talismanic Brazilian in the past few weeks but Moratti is keen to play down such talk.
Ronaldinho has been in scintillating form this term for an exciting Barca side but whilst acknowledging the player's talent, Moratti insists that he is not a target.
''I think in this moment Barcelona haven't the intention to sell him and it isn't in our plans to buy him,'' Moratti told Sky Italia.
''Ronaldinho is really good, of that there is no doubt, but we aren't interested.''
Meanwhile, Moratti has thrown his weight behind the efforts of coach Roberto Mancini, who he believes will deliver silverware if given time and support.
''I still expect the team to deliver good results,'' continued Moratti.
''But I think Inter, especially with Mancini, who is a coach full of courage and ideas, can find this success.
''Anyway, I think we will achieve good things. We will sum up at the end of the season.''
props to skysports.com
Highway Penguin
05-02-2005, 17:15
Funny how a load of Real fans are posting in here. :D
Anyways,
I think we should support our La Liga enemys in all the comps in Europe, except the Liga. Even if it's Barca.
It's important that we win competitions.
Barca 2-1 Chelsea
Chelsea 0-1 Barca
Agr. Barca 3-1 Chelsea
Funny how a load of Real fans are posting in here. :D
Anyways,
I think we should support our La Liga enemys in all the comps in Europe, except the Liga. Even if it's Barca.
It's important that we win competitions.
Barca 2-1 Chelsea
Chelsea 0-1 Barca
Agr. Barca 3-1 Chelsea
Yeah, like two seasons back when Liverpool manager Houllier said he hoped Manchester United progress at the expense or Real Madrid, after his side got thrashed 4-0 at Old Trafford.
Though it wouldn't stop me from guessing Chelsea would beat the top club in the league from Spain.
Casillas
06-02-2005, 01:26
naw man, I really expect Barça to really give it to Chelsea, I can't see it any other way.
I agree.. I think Barca's gonna drop Chelsea.
I'll rate their chances of progressing as:
Chelsea - 60%
Barcelona - 40%
Keeping in mind that Barcelona do excel even at European away matches.
Itachi-san
06-02-2005, 04:50
Barca vs Chelsea eh? this is a battle of the big boys. Two top european clubs duking it out in CL is always a must-watch. my money is probaly on Ronnie's team.
Hah I don't seem to understand why many of you all are thinking this way.
The first leg is at the Nou Camp, and if Barcelona don't win by at least two goals, their chances of progressing after the Stamford Bridge match would be very slim.
AgentZero
07-02-2005, 10:21
Im backing barca, i want to see off this challenge from chelsea to attempt the treble/quadreble and want mourinho off his high horse.....but barca arn't looking to sharp unlike their english counterparts.
Kluiverte
07-02-2005, 11:56
I really hope Barça will defeat Chelsea, but it's going to be hard, anyway here are my predicitons;
Barça 2 - Chelsea 1
Chelsea 1 - Barça 1
I hope!
Greetings.
Kluiverte
07-02-2005, 12:03
FCBARCELONA 0 - ATLETICO DE MADRID 2
First defeat at Camp Nou of the season, it was a really disapointing match. Atletico scored in the first minute and then they just defended, barça tryed once and once again but it was impossible to defeat Atletico. Ronaldinho missed a penalty at minute 70, and Atletico scored by an inexistent penalty in the extra time.
Altough the defeat was hard to accept, i think barça is still the best team in league by now and i think will win La Liga if they keep their way of palying football.
Força Barça!
FCBARCELONA 0 - ATLETICO DE MADRID 2
Atletico scored by an inexistent penalty in the extra time.
and barcelona's penalty wasn't. it was clearly outside the area.
and barcelona's penalty wasn't. it was clearly outside the area.
Well the ref evened it out by giving Atletico a penalty that never was.
Well the ref evened it out by giving Atletico a penalty that never was.
Well even if he hadn't awarded the penalty there would be little chance of Barcelona snatching a late win...
anyway that penalty that ronaldinho took is one of the worst so far in his career
I wouldn't make Ronaldinho the penalty taker if I were Rijkaard.
He isn't neat with his shots, i.e. aiming for the top or bottom corners, he just strikes it either left or right. I would pick Eto'o or Larsson over him.
Nou Camp: Barcelona 1 - 1 Chelsea
Stamford Bridge: Chelsea 2 - 3 Barcelona
Barcelona go through 4-3 on aggregate.
Kluiverte
14-02-2005, 12:02
R.ZARAGOZA 1 - FCBARCELONA 4
Barça won last saturday against Zaragoza and keeps the diference in front of the clasification, great goal of Eto'o,have you seen it? Great passes and fints by Ronaldinho (the greatest) ang Giuly that is playing as good as he did at the begin of the season.
As i said after lossing the last match against Atlético, i'm sure Barça will win la Liga.
Força Barça!!!!
R.ZARAGOZA 1 - FCBARCELONA 4
Barça won last saturday against Zaragoza and keeps the diference in front of the clasification, great goal of Eto'o,have you seen it? Great passes and fints by Ronaldinho (the greatest) ang Giuly that is playing as good as he did at the begin of the season.
Força Barça!!!!
Ironically Barcelona also won the Nou Camp fixture earlier in the season 4-1, with Xavi, Gio and Eto'o (2) getting the goals.
As i said after lossing the last match against Atlético, i'm sure Barça will win la Liga.
Watch out, Real Madrid are breathing right down your necks. Another game without a win and you'll be within striking range of the Galacticos.
did u see etoo play , he's always running and his body movements is like everywhere , no wonder he's the top scorer in the league , i have a fren that plays like him but he lacks the finishing
did u see etoo play , he's always running and his body movements is like everywhere , no wonder he's the top scorer in the league , i have a fren that plays like him but he lacks the finishing
After equalling his league goals tally for the entire of last season, do you think he can be overtaken in the La Liga's scorers chart??
By Ronaldo, Oliviera, Forlan, Maxi etc...
did u see etoo play , he's always running and his body movements is like everywhere , no wonder he's the top scorer in the league , i have a fren that plays like him but he lacks the finishing
Im like that too, but I lack all those thing pretty much except for the finishing ;)
I dont have the stamina yet(luckily its trainable,im working on it)
Leon of Silvren
15-02-2005, 00:26
did u see etoo play , he's always running and his body movements is like everywhere , no wonder he's the top scorer in the league , i have a fren that plays like him but he lacks the finishing
His speed, acceleration and dinamic are amazing, he lacks like you said, definition and instinct, he's indeed a great player but there's too much road for him to become one of the greatest, on the same level of Ronaldo and Sheva.
i am a little bit scared when Eto'O got injured....who is gonna perfrom as good as him as a sub???
there's maxi lopez.....but i doubt he's as good as tevez or any top argentinian strikers , barca should try to buy tevez rather than maxi , anyway i think its a bad move for tevez to go to corinthians rather than have a go in europe or play champion's league football
Kluiverte
15-02-2005, 11:53
Eto'o is one of the greatest already, i'm sure. Just have to see the way he plays each match, not only is really good scorer but he plays a lot for the team, pressing, running all time, making good passes, nobody expected Eto'o to play so awesome as he's playing actually, and he's young!
About Maxi Lopez, we've to wait and see what he can do, I can't comment becuase I haven't seen him playing enough. But an important point is that Barça can change his attack mood by including Maxi in the team, because he's absolutely different than Eto'o. That's good beacuse allows Rijkard to get more alternatives during the match.
Kluiverte
15-02-2005, 11:58
Ironically Barcelona also won the Nou Camp fixture earlier in the season 4-1, with Xavi, Gio and Eto'o (2) getting the goals.
Watch out, Real Madrid are breathing right down your necks. Another game without a win and you'll be within striking range of the Galacticos.
Madrid is who has to watch out, another game without a win and Barça will have 7 points of advantatge.
You're right, Barça have to win every match but if they loose one match, Madrid will aproach, anyway I don't think Madrid is going to win every match, they're lucky and they are playing really really poor.
Luck is a thing every champion needs on a bad day.
Madrid is who has to watch out, another game without a win and Barça will have 7 points of advantatge.
You're right, Barça have to win every match but if they loose one match, Madrid will aproach, anyway I don't think Madrid is going to win every match, they're lucky and they are playing really really poor.
Barca's only just got a better game than Madrid, a dominated 4-1 game. Real are picking up their performances really fast.
Now Real look the more confident of the two. Luxemburgo said even after Osasuna scored and got late into the game that his team wouldn't give up, and Real scored twice in 3 minutes.
Barca are the ones to feel pressured, they've lead with a 13-point lead before, and have lead for long stages of the season. They're everyone's title favourites with Ronaldinho and Samuel Eto'o.
I hope Real keep on winning and to a certain extent, Barca too. I won't want the Galacticos feeling overconfident after 7 good games and they'd moved within 4 points of Barca. If Real played poorly and could still trail Barca by a point, their overconfidence will start to show...
Real Madrid won Osasuna (spelling?) with pure luck....
Barcelona won 4-1 with solid performance!
Yeah I know that, that was once in many matches that Barca deserved their win more than Real did.
But if u judge the Barce match STRICTLY, it should have been 1-1: Eto'O's goal offside, Giuly's goal offside, the own goal with luck...
Nah...its just myself bullshitting
its a match which barca dominate like shit in the first half , and they relaxed a bit in the 2nd half but in the end they still wins
But if u judge the Barce match STRICTLY, it should have been 1-1: Eto'O's goal offside, Giuly's goal offside, the own goal with luck...
The own goal was one of the luckiest I've seen.
The statistics at the time for Barcelona was:
Shots on goal: 0
Goals scored: 1
I've never seen such a thing... :eek:
Kluiverte
15-02-2005, 17:56
But if u judge the Barce match STRICTLY, it should have been 1-1: Eto'O's goal offside, Giuly's goal offside, the own goal with luck...
Nah...its just myself bullshitting
What match did you watched????????
i was just bullshitting! and i had said if u judge the match "STRICTLY"
Leon of Silvren
16-02-2005, 07:20
Real Madrid won Osasuna (spelling?) with pure luck....
Barcelona won 4-1 with solid performance!
It happened only this week, what about the other weeks when Barca was clearly outplayed and yet, they strugged and got some points??.....is incredible how fast people forget things. :rolleyes:
-=[101st]=-
16-02-2005, 07:27
mate.. i wouldn't be saying that like its a good thing for Madrid.. a sign of a great team is when they are out played but take away 3 points.. Barca are a great side.. adn their next CL game should be the final.. not the 1st elimination round... stupid uefa
Leon of Silvren
16-02-2005, 07:42
Where did I say it was a bad or a good thing?? I just said that HE is saying it as it was a bad thing of Real, I was just saying that Barca also did the same thing a couple of times.
And of course I know that a sign of a great team is fighting until the match's over, never give up, Madrid and Barca do this.
Does Madrid??
Maybe in the last match only, and against Roma after being 2-1 down after 20 minutes, two of the rare occasions.
Those teams who never give up are like Manchester United, Juventus etc... Those who play even if they seem like they'll not recover and those who constantly score last minute equalisers or winners.
Leon of Silvren
16-02-2005, 23:13
I do think Madrid does. The fact that they don't get as many equalisers or winners, is a different history, but they do try to get the result.
Kluiverte
21-02-2005, 10:52
Barça 2 - Mallorca 0 / R. Madrid 0 - Athletic 2
Well, we've 7 points advantatge again, i think the league is on Barça's hands, it all depends on ourselves and i think we'll win.
I'm happy with the team and their attitude, yesterday there was a voluntary training and almost all the players went to train, that's a very good attitude from the players.
I'm very excited with the super match of next wednesday against Chelsea, maybe the two best european teams nowadays, it will be great! And really hope we'll win.
I'm very excited with the super match of next wednesday against Chelsea, maybe the two best european teams nowadays, it will be great! And really hope we'll win.
Doubtful, a Barca win.
Chelsea's defence are great wherever they go, be it Stamford Bridge or your intimidating Nou Camp stadium. Their midfield is superb and down the wings they're quick.
Barce better win this at home, they know how difficult it is to get an away goal at Chelsea...
Kluiverte
21-02-2005, 11:32
Doubtful, a Barca win.
Chelsea's defence are great wherever they go, be it Stamford Bridge or your intimidating Nou Camp stadium. Their midfield is superb and down the wings they're quick.
Barce better win this at home, they know how difficult it is to get an away goal at Chelsea...
Yes I know Chelsea's defence is great, but at the same time i think barça's attack is maybe the best in europe nowadays (Eto'o - Ronaldinho - Giuly), i know it's gonna be very very hard but i'm confident with barça.
About the quickly wingers of Chelsea, it's known that Robben is injured and won't play, and i think it's an important ausence.
Hope we can score two goals next wednesday.
Yes I know Chelsea's defence is great, but at the same time i think barça's attack is maybe the best in europe nowadays (Eto'o - Ronaldinho - Giuly), i know it's gonna be very very hard but i'm confident with barça.
About the quickly wingers of Chelsea, it's known that Robben is injured and won't play, and i think it's an important ausence.
Hope we can score two goals next wednesday.
You forgot about Deco...he scored 2 goals in the recent match, which help Barce took 3 points ;)
Kluiverte
21-02-2005, 12:14
You forgot about Deco...he scored 2 goals in the recent match, which help Barce took 3 points ;)
Deco is my favourite player! Maybe he's eclipsed by the great barça stars but he's one of the main causes of the actual Barça status on the Spanish league and on CL.
Deco is my favourite player! Maybe he's eclipsed by the great barça stars but he's one of the main causes of the actual Barça status on the Spanish league and on CL.
I was surprised he didn't follow former teammates Carvalho, Ferreira and former manager Mourinho to Chelsea. Good decision though to move to Barcelona.
so Barce attacking force contains: Ronaldinho, Eto'O, Guily, Deco and Xavi...sometimes Gio too!
It was expected that he would go to Chelski, he almost signed but its a good thing he didn't.
BTW How long will Larsson be out?
so Barce attacking force contains: Ronaldinho, Eto'O, Guily, Deco and Xavi...sometimes Gio too!
And Chelsea's defensive players include Lampard, Smertin, Makelele, Terry, Bridge, Ferreira and Carvalho.
Who do you reckon will come out top?? :D
And Chelsea's defensive players include Lampard, Smertin, Makelele, Terry, Bridge, Ferreira and Carvalho.
Who do you reckon will come out top?? :D
u forgot about Cech....
I hope Barce would come out top...but i dont want to jinx them...since i kinda always jinx the team that i support... :rolleyes:
u forgot about Cech....
I hope Barce would come out top...
I just remembered as well :D
Barca better win this first leg or they're as good as out. Scoring at Stamford Bridge is never easy for any opponents.
And Chelsea's defensive players include Lampard, Smertin, Makelele, Terry, Bridge, Ferreira and Carvalho.
Who do you reckon will come out top?? :Dlampard a defensive player? what on earth are you talking about
lampard a defensive player? what on earth are you talking about
Maybe I shouldn't put it that way.
OK, Lampard has good defensive abilities. How's that?
i reckon Lampard would be a threat for Barce conceding goals though...
I reckon Barca 2 - 1 Chelsea
Eto'o and Ronaldinho to score
Me too.
Barcelona 2 - 1 Chelsea
Giuly__________Lampard
Eto'o
Giuly and Eto'o might just might just outpace Chelsea's defence for once and finish their chances off.
Kluiverte
21-02-2005, 17:33
I don't think Chelsea is going to score in Camp Nou (That's my hope at least!) So I'll bet for a 2 - 0, Goals by Eto'o and Ronaldinho.
A great football night in the Camp Nou!
i expect a 2-0 vistory with eto'o scoring both , i think chelsea will break in nou camp , chelsea is a good team , but only in defense they dun have good attackers at all cuz drogba and robben is out . and ronaldinho and eto'o partnership can break any defense
Kluiverte
22-02-2005, 10:24
i expect a 2-0 vistory with eto'o scoring both , i think chelsea will break in nou camp , chelsea is a good team , but only in defense they dun have good attackers at all cuz drogba and robben is out . and ronaldinho and eto'o partnership can break any defense
Allez Barca and allez Juve!!
Yup, and with regualr leftback Wayne Bridge out of the game, Giuly would have a good time speeding at pace past whoever's playing at leftback for Chelsea tonight :)
buhassan
22-02-2005, 11:49
I thinck chelsea might go for a 0-0 draw in nou camp.
they dont want to have another 1999 when chelsea came over barca 3-1 in stamford bridge and 5-1 down in nou camp + they have one of the best, reckord breaking defence in the world.
go Chelsea!
I dont want to lift my hopes up, although Drogba, Duff are injured and everything seems to go Barce's way...
Yup, and with regualr leftback Wayne Bridge out of the game, Giuly would have a good time speeding at pace past whoever's playing at leftback for Chelsea tonight :)
I can't think of a single player to have sprinted past William Gallas!
Mourinho's also said that Carvalho is the fastest centre back at the club! So that's bad news for Samuel "I see Chelsea's defence as slow" Eto'o.
However Gallas might not play, in which case Ferreira will play left back and Glen Johnson at right back.
Duff should be playing. Drogba's 50/50 - I really hope he plays, he really looked class just before he got injured.
But yeah, I wish all Barcelona fans a good game and but a heart-breaking defeat.
Right, some good and bad news for you Barca fans.
Duff out
Gallas ok
Drogba will probably play
......................Cech.... ...................
Ferreira........JT.........Ric ...........Gallas
........Lampard...Maka...Tiago .............
I'm not sure about the front line, as we've no wingers available. But providing we're sticking with the 4-3-3 with Drogba and Eidur as our strikers, with Joe Cole supporting (unless it's 4-4-2 with Joey Cole in midfield)
..............Eidur........... .....Cole
.................Drogba....... ........
What's Barca's likely formation? And I understand Puyol is a doubt?
Kluiverte
22-02-2005, 18:30
Puyol will play, that's for sure, anyway he'll play even with one leg! :)
The barça formation will probably be that one;
--------------------- Victor Valdés --------------------------------
Belletti------------Puyol--------------Márquez---------- Gio--------
--------------------------Albertini---------------------------------
------Deco-------------------------------------Xavi---------------
----Giuly-----------------------------------------Ronaldinho-------
------------------------ Samuel Eto'o -----------------------------
Lorenzinho
22-02-2005, 18:32
Wait...since when have Barcelona had Dimetrio Albertini?
It's news to me...
Kluiverte
22-02-2005, 18:40
Wait...since when have Barcelona had Dimetrio Albertini?
It's news to me...
From last January I think... Anyway he's a great player!
they bought him in the January transfer window.
Mohanned
23-02-2005, 10:55
Barcelon got him from Lazio in January.
Kluiverte
23-02-2005, 18:54
From Atalanta not from Lazio!
Well played barcelona coming back and winning 2-1, maxi lopez played alright when he came on and got the goal and a assist for Eto.Drogba going off changed it all, he should of gone i reckon. You reckon you can get a goal at chelsea?.
There was a tunnel incident aswell at half time when the teams were coming out, apparently barcelona coach said hello to the ref and mourinho lost it and started shouting you cant do that in rage.Your manager playing mind games? there was probably more to it, but watch this space. Chelsea sent letter to uefa about it moaning. back to back defeats for chelsea.
At half time Drogba stole Anders Frisk's hairdryer. Frisk wasn't happy and sent him off in the second half.
Frisk walks funny because he had a roll of notes stuffed up his jacksie by Riijkard.
Barcelona soar to just behind top-placed Arsenal in 'The LiamK Fucking Cheating Bastards League Table'
Congratulations. We'll fucking hammer you at The Bridge.
Stella Artois
23-02-2005, 23:45
How will you hammer them? Gonna play even more defensively?
Chelsea made Gerrard Houllier's tactic's seem exciting.
How will you hammer them? Gonna play even more defensively?
Yet to grasp intelligent sarcasm I see.
We'll hammer them because Mourinho's team attacks at home European matches. As I know as I've read his autobiography. Defensively away from home, keeping the tie open, then doing the business at home is his Champions League philosophy.
Twice we put long balls over the top and we scored once and should've scored the second time. Their offside trap is a joke and their defence, minus Puyol, is shoddy to say the least. They're not as strong away from home and we have an away goal.
i can see the 'catch' that i had said somewhere in this topic is in the second round...
Stella Artois
24-02-2005, 00:03
So you will be playing route one long ball? How wonderful.
I will be smiling when you go out, knowing the grin of arrogance on your smug face will be wiped away.
No, we'll use through passes and long balls to exploit their blatant defensive weaknesses. I've no doubt it'll be one of a number of attacking ideas. You can't continuously play long balls as it'll become predictable and defendable.
Even if we were to do that, it's called adapting tactics according to opposition weaknesses. Arsenal can't do it as you well know, when they can't pass the ball into the net, rather than have a plan B ready, they just keep trying it unsuccessfully and get frustrated.
Don't criticise a team for planning to exploit weaknessess in opponenets. It's part and parcel of football.
Smug arrogant waah waaah waah. CL is just a bonus. As long as we win the league, I'll be delirious with excitement and my smug arrogant grin will be irremovable. League is the number one priority, and the one trophy Mourinho promised. Forget all the Quadruple rubbish, a media-constructed fantasy so that they can sell more newspapers and find reasons to declare Chelsea's season a failure when the don't win 4 trophies.
Stella Artois
24-02-2005, 00:12
AND IT ONLY COST YOU £200 MILLION POUND TO PUT TOGETHER A TEAM WORTHY OF WINNING ANYTHING!
:rolleyes:
That's the most pathetic and cliched of all your replies. Which says something.
Hold onto your cliches so you can continually echo them like the whingers Arsenal typically are at the end of the season, you won't have any silverware to hold on to.
Stella Artois
24-02-2005, 00:21
You must be tired of trying to tell everyone that you do deserve to be where you are. ;)
As this is a Barcelona thread, and not many give a damn about Chelsea and their negative style of football, I will not waste anymore time arguing with someone who lacks the ability to have a discussion.
Hint: A discussion doesn't begin with one side coming into it believing he is right no matter what.
You've a habit of prematurely ending discussions in a pathetic attempt to try and make it look like you've had the last word.
I have plenty of reasonable discussions with people on this forum, yet you only attract 'boring' and unreasonable discussion. Must be everyone else eh?
I've no reason to tell anyone Chelsea deserve their place in Europes elite. I just have to laugh at the defeatist cliched rubbish spewed out by bitter fans across the world. Generally, as a Chelsea fan, you know you've won the arguement when the other person says 'You're buying the title' 'Hollow victory' etc... etc... You'll of course deny this, but I've already compared Arsenal and Chelsea's surprisingly similar history many a time. I don't need to mention the fact that buying success has been going on since serious money started rolling into football.
But don't let that stop you, or anyone else, from mumbling out the old Chelsea cliches. Believe me, it's not winding any Chelsea fans up, and all intelligent football fans will recognise the stupidity of the accusations.
Stella Artois
24-02-2005, 00:35
Now he is saying I am stupid! Oh the shame.
unlucky for Barce...or Belletti to concede an own goal...
i just found out that Mourinho had an arguement with Rijkaard during the half time of the match....it was about Mourinho fussed over Rijkaard talking with the ref...same as last time where he fuss about Fergeson (spelling) chatting with the ref...
Kluiverte
24-02-2005, 10:56
What a shity match by Chelsea!!!!! They didn't make three consecutive passes! That's the great Chelsea??? That's antifutbol! It was a pity that Barça dindn't score one ot two more goals beacuse they deserved it just because Barça was the only team that tryed to play football, that's the true.
Great attitude for the best team nowadays FORZA BARÇA!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kluiverte
24-02-2005, 11:01
At half time Drogba stole Anders Frisk's hairdryer. Frisk wasn't happy and sent him off in the second half.
Frisk walks funny because he had a roll of notes stuffed up his jacksie by Riijkard.
Barcelona soar to just behind top-placed Arsenal in 'The LiamK Fucking Cheating Bastards League Table'
Congratulations. We'll fucking hammer you at The Bridge.
You have no choice, Chelsea will have to take an attacking attitude and it seems very very difficult, at least yesterday Chelsea played a really shity match, similar to teams like Numancia or Mallorca (the worst teams in La Liga that just come to Camp Nou to defense and try to take profit of the mistakes of Barça). Chelsea played shit and deserved to get more goals.
Yesterday was just one team in the filed, BARÇA.
If Belletti hadn't conceded his own goal, it might well have been 3 or 4 for Barca.
You could see Chelsea were intimidated when they entered the Nou Camp, their passing wasn't accurate, and the players were sometimes slow to react. They still took an undeserved lead though.
They will progress at Stamford Bridge.
some teams just didnt play as well as they should and Chelsea, Arsenal, Leverkuson(spelling), Breman(spelling)...
and Barcelona too....they should have score more! and avoid that own goal!
Why does everyone seem to think if Chelsea played defensively it means they played shit?
Until Drogba was ridiculously sent off, did Barcelona have any real chances to score?
No they didn't. Chelsea however had 2 golden chances, scored one, missed one. It should've been 3 if Joe Cole hadn't been wrongly flagged offside when he was through on goal.
By the time Drogba was sent off, Chelsea had had 2 real chances to score, whereas Barcelona had none. All these statistics about 30 shots on goal are useless. Yes they had 30 shots, but 28 of them were rubbish.
We defended comfortably against you all the time we had 11 men. 60 minutes of pure Barcelona pressure - but what did you have to show for it? A few corners and some terrible shots.
Mourinho was absolutley superb. He knew Barca would attack and he let them attack in completely harmless areas. Did they ever have the ball in our penalty box? Did they ever get a chance to use Eto'o's pace? Did their wingers ever go past Ferreira or Gallas?
But of course, Barcelona played the best by default because they attacked! Ahem.
Nick Neville
24-02-2005, 11:14
Barcelona, other than Ronaldihno, Xavi, Puyol and Eto'o who I admire greatly, are after last night a bunch of diving conning cheats. Maxi Lopez what WAS he thinking with that headband?!?!?!
Roll on Stamford bridge.
Was the own goal Chelsea's golden chance??
I'm sure Duff wasn't thinking of deflecting the ball of Belletti to score when he put that cross in...
Nick Neville
24-02-2005, 11:16
No he'd seen Cole about four yards further across from Belletti (another diver) who was ready to tap in.
Of course it was a golden chance. Duff beats their retarded offside trap, brings the ball down in a Zola-esque fashion, runs into the box where Drogba and Cole were waiting to tap it in.
It was the best chance of the entire game.
So what do you think about Chelsea's chances of progressing??
I reckon they will win 2-0 at Stamford Bridge and go through 3-2 on aggregate.
Nick Neville
24-02-2005, 11:30
I'd like to think Chelsea'll win but Barca will be a threat all the way.
I'd also like to see less love in the tunnel before a big game like that! The amount of hugging and kissing was obscene. It was a Chelsea Barca portuguese love in.
Hopefully at the bridge Chelsea'll win, it'll all turn nasty, and we'll get more hand bags in afterwards!
I honestly think we'll go through.
Eleven against eleven we were magnificent. We let Xavi and Ronaldinho play around with the ball in harmless areas. Cech didn't have a thing to do hardly until we went down to ten men. Whereas we'd scored, should've scored (Drogba), and could've scored (Joe Cole flagged offside). Barcelona didn't have a serious chance until Maxi Lopez' equaliser.
For me, Mourinho won that encounter with ease. Yes Barcelona had a lot of possession - but what did they do with it? Nothing whatsoever. Mourinho knew that Barca's weakness was balls over the top, and we did that 3 times, scored once, should've scored when Drogba missed and then Cole was wrongly ruled offside when he was clean through.
We know we can defend against Barca and stop their attack now (with eleven men), so we'll do that at The Bridge. We also know Barcelona can't defend, so we'll exploit that at The Bridge.
Kluiverte
24-02-2005, 12:04
I honestly think we'll go through.
Eleven against eleven we were magnificent. We let Xavi and Ronaldinho play around with the ball in harmless areas. Cech didn't have a thing to do hardly until we went down to ten men. Whereas we'd scored, should've scored (Drogba), and could've scored (Joe Cole flagged offside). Barcelona didn't have a serious chance until Maxi Lopez' equaliser.
For me, Mourinho won that encounter with ease. Yes Barcelona had a lot of possession - but what did they do with it? Nothing whatsoever. Mourinho knew that Barca's weakness was balls over the top, and we did that 3 times, scored once, should've scored when Drogba missed and then Cole was wrongly ruled offside when he was clean through.
We know we can defend against Barca and stop their attack now (with eleven men), so we'll do that at The Bridge. We also know Barcelona can't defend, so we'll exploit that at The Bridge.
"Eleven against eleven we were magnificient" Are you sure? Did we watch the same match?
"Yes Barcelona had a lot of possession - but what did they do with it?" Win the match?
"We know we can defend against Barca and stop their attack now (with eleven men), so we'll do that at The Bridge" You're right, you know that you can defend, unfortuantely taht's the only thing that Chelsea know how to do right. Maybe Mourinho has to teach his players the way of making three consecutive passes.
"We also know Barcelona can't defend, so we'll exploit that at The Bridge" You also know that Barcelona can win Chelsea and you also know that Barcelona can attack.
Mourinho, would you please try to make your team play football?
That's a pathetic reply.
With eleven men we were brilliant defensively. Did you have a single decent effort on goal while we had eleven men? You had all the possession - but who were the only team to have any real goalscoring chances? Chelsea.
You won the game after Drogba was sent off. Which was a ridiculous decision. Until he was sent off you hadn't had a decent shot on goal all game.
We don't know that Barcelona can attack. We know they can keep possession around our area, but against a solid defence they can't create any real chances (against eleven men). They only won against us after we went down to ten men, eleven against eleven your attack was looking desperate, couldn't create anything whatsoever.
Kluiverte
24-02-2005, 12:42
I'm amazed with your opinions, of course you were brilliant defensively, in fact that was just what Chelsea did, nothing else than defense. If you enjoy watching your team just defending and being dominated it's your choice, i respect.
Real chances of scoring? 31 shoots against 2 shoots on goal. It's enough¿? The match was 0-1 and Chelsea haven't shoot on goal even one time. You can check the match again and you'll see at least two chances of scoring (one by Ronaldinho and another by Eto'o) before the goal by Belletti on own goal.
You can say what you want but people jus saw one team playing football yesterday and it wans't Chelsea.
Solid Foxx
24-02-2005, 16:34
You know what it is, for me football is about trying to score goals and not JUST trying to stop the other team from making them.
So if a team spends almost a whole match with 10 men (or even eleven) on their own half it looks pathetic. Its like the other team is so much better than you are, that all you can do is defend?
I would compare it with the way greece won euro 2004, the result counts. Greece played to their abilitites, oke it was ugly and disgusting football, but they don't have the quality of players to play an other style. And with the quality of players that Chelsea have they shouldn't just have to defend.
And Chelsea probably won't care, but after last night Chelsea lost and Barca gained a lot of sympathisers here in Rotterdam.
Of course it's not just about stopping the other team. Like you say it's a mixture of the two.
Chelsea scored, and stopped Barca scoring (until that stupid sending off). That's football.
Barca's defence is shoddy and their attack is class. So naturally they attack to take the pressure off their dodgy defence. Playing to their strengths.
Chelsea's defence is class, their attack is limited. So we play to our strengths.
Sorry, Chelsea football club is about winning things. To do this you have to play to your strengths. Unfortunately for you, Chelsea is not about entertaining the neutral.
adams9802
24-02-2005, 17:52
s.
Sorry, Chelsea football club is about winning things.
And what have they won I might ask? ;)
And what have they won I might ask? ;)
Ask that question again at the end of the season and then I'll ask u what did Arsenal win
Kluiverte
24-02-2005, 21:05
"Barca's defence is shoddy and their attack is class" Take a look to the Spansih league stadistics and you'll see that Barça is the less scored team in the league, dont' have the greatest defense ( Chelsea and Milan are much better defending) but it's a good defense.
"And Chelsea probably won't care, but after last night Chelsea lost and Barca gained a lot of sympathisers here in Rotterdam" That's good!
AgentZero
24-02-2005, 23:52
what was the deal with Eto'o celebration, was he imitating a monkey again, was he in protest to the racist chants hes been getting?
what was the deal with Eto'o celebration, was he imitating a monkey again, was he in protest to the racist chants hes been getting?
I don't think Eto'o was protesting against anything, just his way of celebrating I suppose.
Kluiverte
25-02-2005, 10:44
I agree with Gay G, Eto'o didn't potest just celebrate the goal.
Apart from that, what do you think about Mourinho and his behaviour before and especially after the match¿? I think that you have to accept in a good way when you win and also when you loose. Mourinho don't know how to afront that defeat and didn't want to seat in front of the barcelona journalists after the match because he'd been too much prepotent with his declarations before the match saying things like "Chelsea it's not gong to loose two consecutive matches", giving the line ups of the two teams the day before and lying about his own line up (he mentioned Gudjonsen and finally played Duff), etc.
So for me Mourinho is a very bad looser, too much prepotent before playing, and not able to accept a defeat in front of everybody. Get hided prepotent!
Maxi Lopez gives me a Batistuta feeling...
I think Mourinho's entitled not to want to speak to the press and lodge an complaint to UEFA if his side were unfairly robbed of a win in the Champions League by an outrageous sending off and seeing Frank Riijkard speaking to the referee at half time.
If you believed the line ups then you're an idiot.
Mourinho does not have to reveal who he is playing until he fills out the little UEFA form an hour before kick off. Barca should think themselves lucky that Mourinho named ten men of his side so Barca could prepare in advance.
ChelseaDave
25-02-2005, 16:36
Mourinho doesn't like to lose whats wrong with that?
It's only when we are robbed of a good result by a shit decision by the referee, who for all we know, was influenced by Frank Rijkaard that he got pissed off. And i don't blame him.
Stella Artois
25-02-2005, 16:56
Haha, when Wenger makes excuses people call him a whinger etc. On the other hand when it is dear old Mr. Mourinho it's because he is a bad loser.
P.S. Unless you actually know what was said between Frisk and Rijkaard it is pointless making bad accusations with no proof.
ChelseaDave
25-02-2005, 16:59
Wenger is in a completely different league from Mourinho when it comes to his post match interviews.
P.S. Unless you actually know what was said between Frisk and Rijkaard it is pointless making bad accusations with no proof.
P.S. Unless you actually know how Roman Abramovich earned his money, we'd appreciate you and all Arsenal and Manchester United whingers not slandering him, and Chelsea as a whole, through claiming the money we are using to build a squad is illegitimate.
However, I can't see that happening somehow.
I don't think Eto'o was protesting against anything, just his way of celebrating I suppose.
I didn't see his celebration against Chelski, but I'm guessing LosGalacticos was reffering to the Barca vs Zaragoza match, where he did a monkey dance in front of the Zaragoza fans after they made monkey noises at him all game.
His reasong for it was quality, he said if somebody pays for a ticket to make monkey noises at him, then he'll act like a moneky.
Unless you actually know how Roman Abramovich earned his money, we'd appreciate you and all Arsenal and Manchester United whingers not slandering him, and Chelsea as a whole, through claiming the money we are using to build a squad is illegitimate.
However legitemately earned it was, it still wasn't legitemately earned by Chelsea FC.
Wasnt it Mourinho who once said that all teams were playing too defensive against his Chelsea?
Hypocrit....
yea he did that comment he made about tottenhams style of play parking a bus in front of the goal or something
I think Mourinho's entitled not to want to speak to the press and lodge an complaint to UEFA if his side were unfairly robbed of a win in the Champions League by an outrageous sending off and seeing Frank Riijkard speaking to the referee at half time.
If you believed the line ups then you're an idiot.
Mourinho does not have to reveal who he is playing until he fills out the little UEFA form an hour before kick off. Barca should think themselves lucky that Mourinho named ten men of his side so Barca could prepare in advance.
Hmm yes,but no one really was surprised with the line up that he played against Barca.
Barca deserved a win, Chelsea played ultra-defensive and were very boring to watch.
Sending Drogba off wasnt really necessary, although he had been very annoying with some dangerous tackles.
But being robbed, no. Its just how they do it these days. Since the FIFA is too conservative to add some electronical devices as an aid for the ref to see things more clear, these things will continue to happen.
There was only one team playing the beautiful game, and it wasnt Chelsea. I do understand why they played so defensively.
A different game is expected in the return, Chelsea have to score so they cant count on that catenaccio-like game they played in Camp Nou.
But its outrageous to say that Rijkaard influenced the ref. Its not Germany(Hoyzer) is it?
Kluiverte
28-02-2005, 10:25
"But its outrageous to say that Rijkaard influenced the ref. Its not Germany(Hoyzer) is it?"
Yes, that was the shitty excuse that Mourinho and Chelsea used to explain their defeat, thay'ven't enough balls to admit their defeat in front of all the journalists. Fucking loosers. UEFA will make them pay a little money for all that s**t.
Kluiverte
28-02-2005, 10:34
NUMANCIA 1 - BARCA 1
A very bad match last saturday in front of Numancia, the field was iced and it was imposible to play football in any way. The best of the match the fact that Marquez (he scored the goal for Barca) is palying better and better each day, he's getting an important player for Barca and i'm happy for that beacuse Marquez is one of my favourite players.
We've one more point of advantatge (8 points) from Madrid that made an shity match against Depor being defeated by 2-0 and playing after Barca draw! They weren't able to win even knowing that their win would give their chances of pressing Barca. Perfect.
Kluiverte
28-02-2005, 16:10
Next match against Espanyol tomorrow at 10.00. Do you think we'll get 11 points advantatge from Madrid? They play against Betis on wednesday at Bernabeu.
If i'm not wrong Belleti and Dinho won't play tomorrow, belletti for sure and dinho is a serious doubt for tomorrow, we'll see.
Ronaldo 9
28-02-2005, 16:57
hey guys
Barca losing was really strange, I mean they had even with the team in the bottom of the list, at least Depor is well known of it's strength when playing gainst giants like barca and real..
hey guys
Barca losing was really strange, I mean they had even with the team in the bottom of the list, at least Depor is well known of it's strength when playing gainst giants like barca and real..
Barca didn't lose, anyway it wasn't a disaster as Real didn't take advantage.
weren't Depor mid-table prior to Staurday's match?
Kluiverte
28-02-2005, 17:09
hey guys
Barca losing was really strange, I mean they had even with the team in the bottom of the list, at least Depor is well known of it's strength when playing gainst giants like barca and real..
Numancia's field "Los Pajaritos" is one of the most difficult fileds to play in winter, just because is placed in the colder zone of Spain duting the winter. Last saturday the field was iced literally and was a hard hard match.
They didn't loose just take a draw, is not good but the Madrid defeat turn it in a good (not excelent) result just beacuse we've one more point on advantatge, now 8.
Betis is always a hard side to play against, but i dont know about Real's condition at the momet(the injuries and absences)
Kluiverte
28-02-2005, 17:21
Betis is always a hard side to play against, but i dont know about Real's condition at the momet(the injuries and absences)
Raul, Zidane, Salgado and Bravo won't play, and i think Madrid is thinking just in the CL match against Juve, because they know they won't win La Liga.
Lorenzinho
28-02-2005, 17:43
barryvs your sig is too wide. Make it thinner.
the champion's league match , barca vs chelsea , barca is really strong and dominating , they attack allot . but i gotta admit , chelsea can win againts barca , cuz the turning point of the match is when drogba was sent off and u can see that chelsea has dropped its morale . if drogba wasnt sent off it could probably a draw , but all in all , it was a fantastic match
First of all, we are going to crush Espanyol, just so they know who is boss in town.
Then we shall proceed to defeat Chelsea, so i can have the satisfaction of seeing the look on Mourinho's face...if he hasnt been 'kicked off' the field by the end of the game.
Ye cocky, presumptuous bastard.
Kluiverte
01-03-2005, 11:09
First of all we are going to crush espanyol just so they know who is boss in town
Then we shall proceed to defeat Chelsea so i can have the satisfaction of seeing the look on maurinho's face...if he hasnt been 'kicked off' the field by the end of the game! Ye cocky, presumptuous bastard!!
Absolutely agree with you, especially in the point of defeating Chelsea just to see Mourinho's face, I respected him mainly beacuse he stayed 5 years in Barcelona, but after the first match i think he's a f****g bastard and i want to see his looser face after being eliminated by Barca.
Kluiverte
01-03-2005, 11:11
the champion's league match , barca vs chelsea , barca is really strong and dominating , they attack allot . but i gotta admit , chelsea can win againts barca , cuz the turning point of the match is when drogba was sent off and u can see that chelsea has dropped its morale . if drogba wasnt sent off it could probably a draw , but all in all , it was a fantastic match
Pier, did you take a look to estadistics of last CL match¿
Ball possesion 68 Barca - 22 Chelsea
Shoots on goal - 32 Barca - 2 Chelsea
...
yeah i know , but did u see chelsea's 10 man defense ? and the only attacking player is drogba (sent off) , duff (gret run) , gallas (shit dribbling but still manage to get up front) and glen johnson (WTF !?) if the score is 1-0 and drgba missed a few chances . barcelona is very god and have lots of chancess, but with 32 shots on goal and 2 goals for barca , it makes u think right , chelsea is a very lucky and a very good defense team , and they could be the one that can beat barca . its like....man u is the only team that can beat arsenal
Oh well, we tied with our neighbours. Last night was a fine example of the quality of Deco, Xavi, Marquez and Roni as offensive midfielders. I said it before and ill say it again; Eto'o is a good striker but he ain't great. I dont think he has the quality to be in this team. The reason he gets so many goals is that he has three midfielding geniouses feeding him passes. I was cursing his selfishness all night long, and dont tell me he had a bad night. All he is good at is that fast break attack. He is shite with balls beyond knee height.
Oleguer must be fucking well connected in catalunian society to play so many games.
What the fuck was Rijkaard thinking letting him play in a right back position.
Young Damia is many times better.
And what about that Belleti!? He is a fine RB. Not great with finishings though.
Pier can you please update the roster and put Damia's(32) name, i think that kid has a good future in the team as RB sub.
Is Messi(30) still in the team? If he is please put his name as well
I have confidence in this team. I'm 100% sure we will defeat Chelsea. I predict a 3-2 score and i will bet all my points on it. :tongue:
Cristiano07
02-03-2005, 11:05
i totally agree wit u.he reminds me of andy cole cause he needs bout 3 chances be4 he scores, howeva, still think hes got lots of potential and will b top quality
damia and messi plays for the reserves , but i'll change the squad anyway
Ronaldo 9
02-03-2005, 11:53
Remember last season when real was ahead then it happened? presenting very bad performance and they let valencia and barca take ahead.. I think that's what happening to barca now.. there's no excuse.. you all said that the field was bad when playing against numancia, now what?
damia and messi plays for the reserves , but i'll change the squad anyway
Good man. They played a few games in the first half of the season though.
Remember last season when real was ahead then it happened? presenting very bad performance and they let valencia and barca take ahead.. I think that's what happening to barca now.. there's no excuse.. you all said that the field was bad when playing against numancia, now what?
Eto'o is what happened. At least we didnt lose, which is always good.
Kluiverte
03-03-2005, 10:34
What a shity match against Espanyol!!!! Hope the players get concentrated and compromised, two consecutive draws! Barça has to react!
This weekend, Goodness willing. I just hope Rijkaard sees the light and doesnt let Oleguer play at all. He is our weakest link. I just wish that for once he sits Eto'o down for the first half and lets Maxi, Roni and Iniesta take care of the offense. I think that would be a great combo. I'm pretty sure Real are not going to win their next match against Valencia, due to their shite defense.
Morientes19
04-03-2005, 09:59
How can he drop etoo he is class and a constant threat. yes he needs alot of chances ie. Andy Cole. I am not sure about maxi, seen him a couple of times (he turned game against Chelsea) but dont think he is same class as etoo.
to me by far eto'o is one of the best striker in year 2005 . his speed and skill and technique is by far the better than any strikers so far in 2005 , best african player ever , iwatched him in mallorca several times b4 and he's really good , but when he comes to barca he's better than ever and magnificient , maybe its cause rijkaard put him as a lone striker and giuly , ronaldinho always feed the ball to him , but thats no excuse , eto'o is still great . i have a feeling that in the world cup , cameroon have a very good chance for the quarters or semis
Morientes19
04-03-2005, 10:32
Maybe cameroon will do okay, they are very physical team. but they cant rely on etoo.
I remember seeing him years ago he was class.
Kluiverte
04-03-2005, 10:42
The last news says that Giuly won't play next match against Osasuna and probably also the CL match against Chelsea. So I think Rijkaard will make Iniesta play on the right wing and Belletti will have a very offensive rol next matches.
Hope we improve our results, as we deserve to win against fucking Espanyol.
cameroon has , kameni ( great goal keeper and young too ) , rigobert song (great defender but under-rated) , bisan lauren , geremi , djemba2 , eto'o and joseph desire job . i think the pairing of job and eto'o is really good
Morientes19
04-03-2005, 10:49
we had song at liverpool he was awful looks good 4 cameroon when they play. Not sure about job looks to light weight in the premiership. not sure of djemba either. what a flop 4 manu.
Kluiverte
04-03-2005, 11:34
I also think that Cameroon has a very good squad, they can do great things being leaded by Samuel Eto`o.
Morientes19
04-03-2005, 11:36
who knows wht cameroon can do in WC. Look at senegal last time. Etoo should shine in WC
we had song at liverpool he was awful looks good 4 cameroon when they play. Not sure about job looks to light weight in the premiership. not sure of djemba either. what a flop 4 manu.
really ? i always thought him to be really good , everytime i see him play for galatasaray , liv , cameroon , and recently the charity match , he's really good
Morientes19
04-03-2005, 11:45
i thought he was a flop at liverpool. but that was under houllier. Everyone says he is good now. I dont know.
Cristiano07
04-03-2005, 11:49
stuff like that happens allthe time, look at poborsky at man u and look at him now
Morientes19
04-03-2005, 12:11
geremi never plays what a waste of talent
Cristiano07
04-03-2005, 12:14
well hes in it 4 the money, he had the chance 2 play every week 4 boro but chose 2 stay and rot on bench
Morientes19
04-03-2005, 12:40
do you think Barca will win CL? I think an italian team will. they are too hard to break down at the back.
Cristiano07
04-03-2005, 12:52
i wud luv 2 c a rematch between barca and milan, cause the group matches were class to watch cause of the contrast in styles
Morientes19
04-03-2005, 12:54
i prefer 2 attacking teams. its awesome to watch
TochaMan!
04-03-2005, 13:06
Barca problem is the lack of rotation of the team. The key players always play and play significant minutes. Xavi and Ronaldinho arent playing at the same level they were playing in the start of the season. For me, who's carrying Barca the last weeks has been Eto'o and Deco. Sure the lack of rotation is a result of the several injurys players of Barca suffered. Edmilson and Larsson would be very helpful in Barca quest for CL and La Liga.
Cristiano07
04-03-2005, 13:10
i agree, if u look at how they were playin at start of season, they were by far the best team. but now i think certain players r burnt out i.e. ronnie, deco etc
Morientes19
04-03-2005, 13:14
saying that after the winter break they came back and looked poor.
Due to increasing pressure, i reckon, specially Dinho. Still smiling and pulling great moves, though.
Gotta love that guy. I'm really looking forward to the next match. I wonder what line up Rijkaard is going to come up with. Any ideas?
I hope it looks something like this:
Belleti-Puyol-Marquez-Silvinho
Xavi-Albertini-Deco
Iniesta-Eto'o-Dinho
Cristiano07
04-03-2005, 22:36
Due to increasing pressure i reckon...specially dinho...still smiling and pulling great moves though.
Gotta luv' that kid! I'm really looking forward to the next match...wonder what line up Rijkaard is going to come up with. Any ideas?
I hope it looks something like this
Belleti-Puyol-Marquez-Silvinho
Xavi-Albertini-Deco
Iniesta-Eto'o-Dinho
Please, pleeeaase Rijkaard, dont let oleguer play!!!!
id say pretty much same, maybe give maxi a little run in the team, he did change the game against chelsea
you cant let maxi play cuz he's argentinian , which mans he's a foreign player , and in the la liga , i dun think u can have more than 3 non-euro player in a team , which barca aready has . gaucho , eto'o and marquez .
Belletti is brazilian, right?
they have european passports mate . belleti , sylvinho , motta , edmilson all have european passports....i think
What passports? Spanish? Are you certain?
How many foreigners allowed in a team?
I think its more than 3.
in the la liga , the maximum number is 3 , i think if u stayed for a long time in europe u are eigible for an european passports . i heard tha carlos and ronaldo are goin to have their european passports this summer
Kluiverte
07-03-2005, 10:40
If I'm not wrong i think that Maxi Lopez has a comunitary passport, because he played last league match against Espanyol and Eto'o, Marquez and Dinho played as well.
Motta, Belletti, Sivinho and Edmilson have the comunitary passport as well.
About la Liga, we've 8 points advantatge again, we winned Osasuna and Madrid get a draw against Valencia, i think we'll win at the end!
Forza Barça!!
is it ? i dunno anything about comunitary passports , can u explain them to me better
Kluiverte
07-03-2005, 11:23
is it ? i dunno anything about comunitary passports , can u explain them to me better
oK Pier! I'll try to explain you!
As you know any european from a country belonged to the CEE can play as a comunitary in any European club belonged to CEE too, so they don't count as foraigners or extracomunitary players as it's said. But for players from other countries figures as extracomunitary players.
Depending on each league, you can have a determinated number of extracomunitary players, in Spain each club can have 3 extracomuntary players on the team and the three of them can play in the same line up.
But extracomunitary players can have an CEE passport by many ways, that depends on the legislation of each country but it normally comes by staying more than 3 years in the country (for example Sylivnho) then they've to request a passport and they normally get it by the goverment in a year more or less. Another way to get the CEE passport is by demostrating that someone on your family has born on an European country, that's the case of Edmilson or Belletti that has european origins by someone in their families, Belletti grandma is from Italy i think, so they can get the CEE passport by demostrating that.
Hope i've put it down clearly!!
Kluiverte
08-03-2005, 10:48
What a good feeling i've today! I hope we'll trash Chelsea tonight and want to see Mourinho's face after loosing the match.
The only thing that i don't like is that Maruqez is not going to play, but we've Gerard or Albertini to play in that position, i think Gerard will be in the line up.
Forza Barca!
Morientes19
08-03-2005, 10:49
i hope barca win. cant stand mourinho-too cocky.
the proof is in the pudding with the man thou thats the irritating thing. he only states the facts that he is the best manager in europe, which i think he prob is. the barca players saying that rijkaard is thats just ludicrous
Morientes19
08-03-2005, 11:00
i think he prob is best mansger in europe, but he is so arrogant, when intised the Liverpool fans he should have got a fine. I think Rijkaard is a v good coach look how he has turned barca around.
Kluiverte
08-03-2005, 11:03
i think he prob is best mansger in europe, but he is so arrogant, when intised the Liverpool fans he should have got a fine. I think Rijkaard is a v good coach look how he has turned barca around.
I agree!
i think he prob is best mansger in europe, but he is so arrogant, when intised the Liverpool fans he should have got a fine. I think Rijkaard is a v good coach look how he has turned barca around.
true, but i still don't think they are the best team in the world or even europe. i think defensively he has certainly improved, but their average goals per game in the primera league is less than 2. i don't think the spanish league is that competitive anymore. i mean real madrid have lost 25% of their games this season and are still second compared to man u who have lost 6%.
Morientes19
08-03-2005, 11:08
I would love liverpool to meet barca in CL (although we would prob get beat) it would be good to see the likes of Ronny and co at anfield. But better not speak 2 early who knows what will happen this week in CL.
Kluiverte
08-03-2005, 11:18
true, but i still don't think they are the best team in the world or even europe. i think defensively he has certainly improved, but their average goals per game in the primera league is less than 2. i don't think the spanish league is that competitive anymore. i mean real madrid have lost 25% of their games this season and are still second compared to man u who have lost 6%.
Nobody is saying that Barca is the best team in Europe or in the world, that gets demostrated by winning titles, and Barca is on the way but still haven't win. Altought Barca played magnificient in the first part of the season, that's true.
About La Liga, you're right, Valencia and Deportivo aren't so strong that season and La Liga is between two teams Barca/Madrid, anyway Barca has 8 points advantatge, i think any team would like to have an advantatge like that in a local league (i think chelsea has 8 points form Manu too...)
thats true. i just think that certain barca players are really makin claims without any evidence to back it up. 8points is a great advantage, but i think its similar to the old rosenborg in norway days. well clear, but in a league that struggles. i think spain has some great players (best in world). maybe i've got it wrong. i guess the number of defeats suffered by top clubs makes it more competitive in essence, but i like u say there aren't as many teams that can challenege (valencia, deportivo, athletico bilbao, betis etc etc) anymore.
Morientes19
08-03-2005, 11:25
i think barca are the most exciting team to watch, they may not score tons of goals but with the likes of ronny and etoo etc they bring games to life
thats what cryuff said wasn't it. they may not win, but at least entertain. sorry johann, i'd prefer to win 1-0!
Cristiano07
08-03-2005, 11:30
barca have got la liga wrapped up now, dont think they're in copa del ray r they. and i cant c em winning champ league, i think they will cum unstuck against an italian team. really hope barca thrash chelsea 2nite and wipe that smile off mourinho's face. but im sure he'll have a cry bout the ref again cause hes such a bad loser
COME ON BARCA!!!!!
Kluiverte
08-03-2005, 11:32
"but i think its similar to the old rosenborg in norway days"
I get the meaning, but it seems a little bit exagerated for me, Barca is getting a local record in spanish league about matches winned and losed, and is performing a very good season, so any team can catch them. So it's a Barca merit. Anyway there're very good teams in Spain, Valencia is waking up again after Rainieri's runaway, Deportivo, Betis, Bilbao, Villareal, R. Sociedad, Sevilla, there're a lot of good players in all these teams.
Morientes19
08-03-2005, 11:37
i hope barca win CL then at least we have all being entertained. I fancy AC Milan 2 lift cup. Sorry barca fans, I want barca to go as far as poss, for the entertainment they provide.
i agree with what u say and maybe my point was a bit right wing. fair dinkum. i'm just sick of tired of hearing how great the spanish league is and how the best teams are in spain. both barca and real and 2nd favourites for their games and there are twice as many english teams in champs league than spain
Cristiano07
08-03-2005, 11:40
so do i, barca play 2 entertain and attack but italian teams play 2 defend and to get results. howeva, if any team can break down italian teams down it barca
Kluiverte
08-03-2005, 12:15
I like english teams a lot, especially Arsenal, Manu and Liverpool, but don't like the way Italian teams play altought they usually win with his defensive way of playing football, anyway i respect all teams and the way they play.
IMO Chelsea has a very "Italian" way of playing football, always looking for the result.
Cristiano07
08-03-2005, 12:19
i wud prefer an attackin team 2 win cl ratha than an italian team. just think back 2 the milan juve final at OT. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
yeah its really borin....i almost slept too , i did and i only saw sheva putting in the penalty lol , and end game
Cristiano07
08-03-2005, 13:10
i was the same completely switched off durin game, then watched keepers cheatin in the shootout
Morientes19
08-03-2005, 13:13
i am not a serie A fan but if that was bad what is Serie A like?
Damn, we lost. We were so close. Ahh well, its all good. It was a valiant stand. We must now regroup and lick our wounds. We still have La Liga.
What was Rijkaard thinking? I knew bad things were going to happen after i saw the starting line-up. Marquez or Albertini's presence would have turned the tide, im sure. Gio had an awful performance.
We were so weak defensively.
i am not a serie A fan but if that was bad what is Serie A like?
the serie A always play with passion , and they always give their all . they will always try to score goals and prevent goals . the players will rather geta red card than let the opposition put in a goal .
Morientes19
09-03-2005, 08:31
in the chelsea game, can anyone explain why Ronaldinho and ferriera swaped shirts at half time?
Kluiverte
09-03-2005, 10:30
What a fuck! I can't believe it, the worst match defensively of all the season, but we were so close! If Iniesta or Eto'o has scored that goal...
Congratulations to Chelsea, i'm fucked up as never before...
Kluiverte
09-03-2005, 11:38
Anyway i'm proud of my team,
FORZA BARCA!
Cristiano07
09-03-2005, 11:57
MY GOD barca, wot happened, so close 2 wiping that smile off mourinho's face. oh well was typically entertainin as barca always r
I think Barca missed Marquez.
Morientes19
09-03-2005, 12:00
yeah what an awesome game. Shame their back 4 isnt as decent as their attack. Whats happened to silvinho and V bronkhorst they both looked awful.
Cristiano07
09-03-2005, 12:02
i think they missed marquez
I think Barca were unlucky.
Cristiano07 is stealing my thoughts. I don't care.
Cristiano07
09-03-2005, 12:04
does any 1 know wot happened in the tunnel after wards with Dinho
I think Rijkaard should sign another defender. Oleguer will be good in a few years.
Eto'o said someone called him a monkey.
Morientes19
09-03-2005, 12:06
i heard Gerard is leaving barca in the summer on a free. He cost them 13mil. He looked awesome at valencia when they reached CL final. Not so good now. Still I would like him at LFC. Any news who will sign him? I thonk he will stay in spain
But I don't know why Dinho wentoff like that.
Gerard won't be too big a miss. Albertini is a better player, and he'll still be there nexy season.
Nick Neville
09-03-2005, 12:09
Eto'o said someone called him a monkey.
Would have thought he'd be used to that in Spain, maybe Luis Aragones got the plane over.
Cristiano07
09-03-2005, 12:10
dont understand why albertini dint start last nite, wud have good 4 em, v experienced
Morientes19
09-03-2005, 12:10
i heard a chelsea steward called etoo a 'monkey', and it all kicked off. Awful scenes
Why don't the Spanish FA deal with racism?
Cristiano07
09-03-2005, 12:12
i dint c eto'o there, just saw Dinho kickin off with loads of stewards round him
Eto'o probably just left. But Dinho's in trouble.
Cristiano07
09-03-2005, 12:15
shame, his 2nd goal was just genius
scottdougall is right- the back four is weak. Except Puyol, of course.
It was great. How did he do that?
Yossi try n put everything into one message
Cristiano07
09-03-2005, 12:17
only he can, no back lift at all, looked stuck under his feet
scottdougall- don't be so sarcastic.
Gotta go lads. Sorry, bye.
Kluiverte
09-03-2005, 16:47
Belleti also played right, bad match for Gio, Oleguer and Gerard (in the first goal it was horrible).
Kluiverte
10-03-2005, 11:37
Next Liga Match;
FCBarcelona - At. Bilbao
It won't be a easy match, but i'm confident on Barca, i think the players will be motivated and will play 100% against Bilbao.
Forza Barca!
forzamilan
10-03-2005, 11:50
Barca still have la liga in their grip... doubt they'll let that slip... Dinho is too damn good to let that happen, Madrid usually take a lot more to recover from defeats such as last nights while Barca spring back with force. Bilbao will be a good match i think
Kluiverte
10-03-2005, 11:52
hope barca will get back 2 winning ways at weekend.
I'm sure about that! I'm confident with player's attitude, thinking about Chelsea match maybe players were a little bit inexperienced (barça is a very young team with a medium age of 24 years) and i think that the defeat will make them learn how to affront important matches from now on.
We'll be there next year and we won't fail that time.
Cristiano07
10-03-2005, 12:09
who knocked barca out of the copa del ray? has any1 herd who they r targetin 4 the summa
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