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To me a sure Juve win, but the odds made me rethink again.
For those of you who think Juventus, instead of Liverpool, sound like more convincing candidates on getting into the semis, bet on the Italians :)
Cristiano07
11-04-2005, 13:09
juve will win and progess into semi's 2 face chelsea, which will b gr8 match
Nick Neville
11-04-2005, 13:11
Lost a stack on Barca Real yesterday, thought I'd do the same with Liverpool!
Morientes19
11-04-2005, 13:15
i am backing liverpool to reach semis.
Cristiano07
11-04-2005, 13:18
i am backing liverpool to reach semis.
u will have 2 play 10 times betta than u did against city. also ive heard gerrard is a doubt, which will b a big blow
Saviola.
11-04-2005, 13:19
It's guna be Juve, cos it's guna b played in Italy, therefore Italian style, Liverpool will not be able to stop Juve from settling this time and Juve will play sweet slow Italian football and caress it into the back of the net...
Morientes19
11-04-2005, 13:20
if gerrard is out we will lose.
Cristiano07
11-04-2005, 13:23
crowd will also play a part. i think sum of ur players will b intimidated and freeze
Morientes19
11-04-2005, 13:25
no i disagree.
codename 47
11-04-2005, 13:28
if gerrard is out we will lose.
watching skysports news and it says gerrard's out with a groin strain so i'll be putting 500 on juve to win for sure now
Morientes19
11-04-2005, 13:56
Steven Gerrard has been ruled out of Wednesday's crucial UEFA Champions League clash with Juventus.
The Liverpool skipper is missing with a groin problem he picked up in Saturday's defeat at Manchester City.
After undergoing tests on the injury the club have revealed that he will not make the trip to Turin.
The news is a massive blow to Liverpool's hopes of qualifying for the semi-finals of Europe's premier competition.
It is likely that Xabi Alonso will be rushed back into action as a replacement for Gerrard with Dietmar Hamann still absent through injury.
Liverpool are hopeful that he will return for the prem clash with spurs.
from sky sports.com
liverpool have no chance now!!!
Scarface
11-04-2005, 13:59
What are the chances of Xabi Alonso returning? Hasn't he been on the bench recently?
Morientes19
11-04-2005, 14:06
i heard liverpool will rush him back now for wednesday
Cristiano07
11-04-2005, 14:13
doesn't matter who plays, juve will b 2 strong
unoriginal
11-04-2005, 15:45
Gerrard ruled out of the match with a groin injurey
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/default.stm
Harry-Kewell
11-04-2005, 18:28
if gerrard is out we will lose.
Did you expect us to lose when we never had Gerrard available for selection in the away game against Deportivo or the home game against Leverkusen? I know we face a stiffer opposition this time round but having Alonso back fills me with optimism. Stats also prove that we can cope well without Stevie G. Of course we're going to miss his presence and persona but I remain defiant. It's going to take a remarkable performance and I'm going to be positive with my presumption. Juventus conceded 3 goals on the weekend, they look vulnerable at the back and if we can score a goal the tie will be as good as won.
Did you expect us to lose when we never had Gerrard available for selection in the away game against Deportivo or the home game against Leverkusen? I know we face a stiffer opposition this time round but having Alonso back fills me with optimism. Stats also prove that we can cope well without Stevie G. Of course we're going to miss his presence and persona but I remain defiant. It's going to take a remarkable performance and I'm going to be positive with my presumption. Juventus conceded 3 goals on the weekend, they look vulnerable at the back and if we can score a goal the tie will be as good as won.
That's the F*ckin spirit, never believe that your team will lose, until it happens. You have to stick with them till the very end. And if Liverpool don't give up and fight like they have never fought before they will have every chance of going through.
Lorenzinho
11-04-2005, 18:50
Double-edged sword my dear friend.
Juventus really showed their team spirit at the weekend to come from behind 3 times.
What happened to Liverpool...?
:)
Mc Clean
11-04-2005, 20:23
juve will win and progess into semi's 2 face chelsea, which will b gr8 match
To early to judge that match mate! :mellow:
Bayern have their 2 quality strikers back and they are brillant at their own home ground you seen what they did to Arsenal :)
Scarface
11-04-2005, 20:50
To early to judge that match mate! :mellow:
Bayern have their 2 quality strikers back and they are brillant at their own home ground you seen what they did to Arsenal :)
Or what Arsenal did to themselves. Bayern weren't special in either legs, Arsenal just defended comically and handed them 3 goals to shoot themselves in the foot, and give themselves too much to do in the 2nd leg. Chelsea should be too strong for Bayern. I think Liverpool have more of a chance than some are giving them credit, they are more than capable of getting a crucial goal, with or without Gerrrard, but having said that, I feel Scott Carson's goalkeeping error may prove costly, and Juve will sneak through with a hard fought 2-0 win, with an inspired performance from Zlatan Ibrahimovic.
Mc Clean
11-04-2005, 20:59
Or what Arsenal did to themselves. Bayern weren't special in either legs, Arsenal just defended comically and handed them 3 goals to shoot themselves in the foot, and give themselves too much to do in the 2nd leg. Chelsea should be too strong for Bayern. I think Liverpool have more of a chance than some are giving them credit, they are more than capable of getting a crucial goal, with or without Gerrrard, but having said that, I feel Scott Carson's goalkeeping error may prove costly, and Juve will sneak through with a hard fought 2-0 win, with an inspired performance from Zlatan Ibrahimovic.
Your right about Gerrard, we beat Bayern Leverkuson withour Gerrard ;)
Highway Penguin
11-04-2005, 23:57
2000 on 'Pool.
Xabi will be back. According to a fan site news article.
I think we'll do fine.
Hold em to a draw.
Those are crazy odds...i would bet some points for 'pool even if i did not support them. But i do. Problem is, ive been watching the first leg game and Juve were very unlucky...Gerrards absence is going to be devastating. But on the bright side, Emmerson and Nedved are not what they used to be, i could see that watching them play. My only worry is Ibrahimovic really...ill never forget the time when he dribbled past 4 defenders and the keeper inside the penalty box and scored...the man is very dangerous. Liverpool have some class players that can do all the difference if they play well, namely Riise, Garcia and the Mighty Baros! I'm pretty sure ill be betting 1000 on the pool...well see after i watch happy hour and highlights of the game on eurosport.
L . F . C
12-04-2005, 11:07
go on www.liverpoolfc.tv, if we need a goal CISSE IS THERE!
Morientes19
12-04-2005, 11:12
i would like to see cisse back, i doubt rafa will risk him.
codename 47
12-04-2005, 12:22
I've heard that he's been included in the squad to play Juve i'll be quite suprised if he does actual play though
He's in the squad, the bbc's sports page have an article on it...
Come on xabi and cisse back that will do us even if we are gettin talked about us gettin slated just go and defend are lives. But come on am just made up we got futher than man u and arsenal who are supposed to be better than us. But am betting on the mighty red men to go past juvge they can't be that good 3 against fiorentina there defensive is looking very fraile lets take the game to them as cappelo said are defense is not to to good at the moment so and vatlan is the worst finisher i have ever seen in my life, the rest of him is good but he cant finish to pick his pay packet up.
Cristiano07
12-04-2005, 14:12
cant c cisse even makin the bench, who is the ideal partnership up front? fernando and cisse i presume
Without Gerard and with poor away form it's imposibile misson for Liverpool to go to semi-final.Del-Piero,Nedved,Trezegue 3:0 !
Morientes19
12-04-2005, 14:15
del p is shit
Cristiano07
12-04-2005, 14:19
so is trez
To early to judge that match mate! :mellow:
Bayern have their 2 quality strikers back and they are brillant at their own home ground you seen what they did to Arsenal :)
You're right.
Bayern still stand a chance of clawing back Chelsea's lead, whereas Liverpool have no chance of progressing after conceding Cannavaro's goal.
Lorenzinho
12-04-2005, 16:00
fluke88 and his merry band of txt spking gumf brothers are quick to point out that Juventus conceded 3. Don't forget that they came back to equalise 3 times. However, Liverpool lost to an under pressure Man City. Double edged sword.
Gerrard out. You all go on and on and on and on and on about how vital he is and that he's the best player in the world yada yada, then when he's missing you start reassuring yourself by saying that you don't need him. Don't talk shit. You do need him.
Oh and Juventus are going through to the semis tomorrow night...:)
Harry-Kewell
12-04-2005, 16:05
Oh and Juventus are going through to the semis tomorrow night...:)
I hope you're wrong. Time will tell. :)
I hope you're wrong. Time will tell. :)
I just have to look at the Juve-Real match to get an idea of what Liverpool can expect when they visit Turin.
I'm going for Juve 3 - 0 'Pool. ;)
or defence needs to be shit hot out there but cisse will whip past there defence like a fucking racing dog (hopefully)even though hes meant to only be playing 20 minutes i think he or xabi could turn the tie our way:)
Lorenzinho
12-04-2005, 16:22
I see Juventus keeping a clean sheet.
Zlatan has finally found out how to finish! His chip against Cejas at the weekend was just sublime. He's finally rounded off his game. He'll be a threat.
2-0 Juventus. Juventus never seem to make it easy for themselves...
I see Juventus keeping a clean sheet.
Zlatan has finally found out how to finish! His chip against Cejas at the weekend was just sublime. He's finally rounded off his game. He'll be a threat.
2-0 Juventus. Juventus never seem to make it easy for themselves...
... To?
Anyway I think Zlatan will score, as will Nedved and perhaps a defensive mid or defender. Trez is out.
Lorenzinho
12-04-2005, 16:33
2-0 to Juventus, of course!
Zlatan is a quality player. Liverpool will be shocked at what Juventus can do at home. Bye bye, Rafa.
I think all for you guys should put up your entire fortune as stake for this bet :)
It's simple the easiest tie of the CL quarters to predict. Even the Milanese derby and Bayern-Chelsea are more difficult.
Don't be influenced negatively by the odds :D
I will figo i will put my points were my heart is and put all of my points on liverpool to win, so i can prove wrong that noob lorenzinho so come on the mighty red men. Juventus champions league your avin a laugh ! And lorenzinho is so quick to say stuff about teams i never ever seen you talk about your team thats if you do support a team so come who do you support then.
Cannon ball
12-04-2005, 17:27
The Stadio delle alpi has been an impregnable fortress this season for juve. Liverpool have to make sure they don't concede early otherwise a second will look very likely. Its a tough one with Liverpool confident and Juventus determined. The champions league has been the only talking point in a disapointing season for the pool.
Lorenzinho
12-04-2005, 17:53
Well, first off fluke88, i'm no a "noob". I've been here just under 2 years longer than you.
I think it's fairly obvious who i support. I'll leave you to dwell on that and let you supreme levels of intelligence (cough) to work that out.
Secondly, you wont prove me wrong. You know i'm right, you're just too afraid to admit it.
Thirdly, i'm actually quite quick to criticise my own team. Check out the official juventus thread.
fluke88 honey, Liverpool are going out. I'm so sorry...:)
Mc Clean
12-04-2005, 19:10
Without Gerard and with poor away form it's imposibile misson for Liverpool to go to semi-final.Del-Piero,Nedved,Trezegue 3:0 !
Trezeguet is injured!! :lol:
and Juventus have a couple of players injured too :)
I'd love Liverpool to go through, but I don't know if they will. This is going to be a struggle for them...They'll need one of their inspired performances again...
soliloquay
12-04-2005, 19:23
6000 on the zebras.
Bye bye, Rafa
Alex"pes"hilty
12-04-2005, 20:35
1-0 Juventus for me.
Just heard Cisse is back and he may play i reckon juventus win BUT 6/1 on liverpool to win surely worth a bet?
Fuck it! Everyone seems to be so sure the Reds are doomed i'm staking 1000 on them!
I watched the first leg game 3 times and after careful consideration i'm pretty sure Liverpool can do this. Juventus where at full strenght in that game and where completely neutralized. Juve's goal was clearly a goal keepin' mistake. All well need is a couple of glorious long balls from Riise and Garcia to an inspired Baros.
Then again it wont hurt to stake some in the other outcomes...its the wise thing to do.
Morientes19
13-04-2005, 09:31
i agree juve were flat in the first leg. I predict a draw in italy. or maybe a liverpool win(i hope)
soliloquay
13-04-2005, 10:21
Juventus where at full strenght in that game and where completely neutralized.
Juve were at full strength? :lol:
the passing was horrible; not even one good pass. cannavaro and thuram were just looking at eachother and letting the players pass. nedved had just come out from an injury and didn't have any match practice. i watch juve's every game, and that wasn't juve at full strength. make sure you know what you're talking about
If you are talking about sheet I must tell you that Liverpool Gk is sheet !
Forza Juve,Juve campione !
Nick Neville
13-04-2005, 11:20
4ckin, c'mon Liverpool!!!! Let's do it, get the game on. I can see Biscuit having the game of his life tonight, Sami being a rock again, Jerzy looking like he can catch, Milan passing, Luis on the run.
If Juve win I'll be gutted, really want the Pool to do this.
make sure you know what you're talking about
I was talking about the squad, smart one...The squad was at full strenght ,unlike Liverpool's, which means their best players where in the pitch...get it? And yes they did play like shit.
soliloquay
13-04-2005, 12:15
I was talking about the squad, smart one...The squad was at full strenght ,unlike Liverpool's, which means their best players where in the pitch...get it? And yes they did play like shit.
well what's the point of having the names on the pitch but the players are somewhere else? hopefully today most of the players will be in good form
Juve's last 4 home games:
1 - 0 Ajax
1 - 0 Tel-Aviv
1 - 0 Bayern
1 - 0 Real Madrid (2-0 aet)
What are the chances of them keeping a clean sheet? :D
5000 on Juve. Forza Bianconeri!!!
davefitz87
13-04-2005, 18:20
8 Juve fans have already been arrested for attcking a liverpool fan in a bar with a baseball bat, guna be murder tonight!
Yea i just heard there was trouble
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4434413.stm
Fans arrested ahead of Reds match
QUARTER-FINAL SECOND LEG
Police have arrested eight Juventus fans ahead of the Champions League quarter-final against Liverpool.
A Liverpool fan was hit on the head with a bat on Tuesday evening at a Turin bar, police confirmed.
The supporter did not go to hospital and will still watch the game in Turin, but the home fans were arrested for violence and possession of arms.
Elsewhere, tempers flared at a hotel when Juventus fans arrived, reportedly carrying bottles and a stick.
Words were exchanged, but no fighting occurred and the Juventus fans ran from the scene when the police arrived
Itachi-san
13-04-2005, 18:41
510 on Juventus. 1 hr left til kick off. Yeah!
Mc Clean
13-04-2005, 18:42
Yea i just heard there was trouble
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4434413.stm
Fans arrested ahead of Reds match
QUARTER-FINAL SECOND LEG
Police have arrested eight Juventus fans ahead of the Champions League quarter-final against Liverpool.
A Liverpool fan was hit on the head with a bat on Tuesday evening at a Turin bar, police confirmed.
The supporter did not go to hospital and will still watch the game in Turin, but the home fans were arrested for violence and possession of arms.
Elsewhere, tempers flared at a hotel when Juventus fans arrived, reportedly carrying bottles and a stick.
Words were exchanged, but no fighting occurred and the Juventus fans ran from the scene when the police arrived
Fucking disgrace!! all italian fans need shot :realmad: :realmad:
I hope Pool kick their ass.
If I came face-to-face with one of their fans, I would bite their nose off!
Itachi-san
13-04-2005, 20:34
Nil - Nil @ half time.
Lorenzinho
13-04-2005, 20:36
Mc Clean, you are a dick! A big floppy donkey dick! Im an Italian fan, do i need shot?
As for the game, Juventus are 100% in control.
davefitz87
13-04-2005, 20:39
Why havnt thy scored then Lorenzinho? The Liverpool defence is controllin the game, not Juve.Whenever the tempo gets goin for Juve our defence slow it down. Guna be a tough second half for both teams
Lorenzinho
13-04-2005, 20:42
Scoring doesnt mean you're in control. If you knew anything about football then you would realise that.
Anyway, out of the two sets of fans on Insight, it seems to me that the Liverpool ones are the ones that would start fighting over there. Italian fans needing shot, kicking Juventus' fans asses. Any Liverpool fans got anymore suggestions...?
davefitz87
13-04-2005, 20:44
Scoring doesnt mean you're in control. If you knew anything about football then you would realise that.
Anyway, out of the two sets of fans on Insight, it seems to me that the Liverpool ones are the ones that would start fighting over there. Italian fans needing shot, kicking Juventus' fans asses. Any Liverpool fans got anymore suggestions...?
............................lo ad.............of.......crap!
marcrulz
13-04-2005, 20:46
juve in control, shud get it 1 or 2-0
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Well played Liverpool. Just hope the fans get our allright.
I put 800 on a draw :) That's 3 bets I've made on this and won them all!
davefitz87
13-04-2005, 21:36
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *points at Lorenzinho*
NNNNNNO!!!! 1000 pts gone! An 'english' team in the final. Chelsea vs. Liverpool, hard to predict....Actually, no. Chelsea vs. Milan in final.
Absolute 'mare :eek:
Juventus 0 - 0 Liverpool FT
Well done Liverpool, I look forward to the semis.
Lorenzinho
13-04-2005, 21:38
Blast. Wont make excuses. We were poor. I was wrong. I'm a good loser.
Congratulations Liverpool, you deserved to win...
EDIT: Davefitz, there is such a thing as a bad winner. I didn'y do that to the Real fans. Congrats for being the smaller man...
They'll get easily knocked out again.
Chelsea have beaten them 3 times this season already.
It's ridiculous. Flares are being thrown all over by the Juve fans. Last night Inter, tonight Juve and a while back a Roma fans were throwing tomahawk cruise missiles at frisk.
They'll get easily knocked out again.
Chelsea have beaten them 3 times this season already.
Arsenal defeated us 3 time and drew once last season, but we still managed to knock them out. I hope your right when you say we will beat L'pool, but you never know in the Champions League........
soliloquay
13-04-2005, 21:44
juve controlled the game well most of the time. all the players played well, except olivera who didn't know what he had to do and unsurprisingly was subsituted with zalayeta who had a very good match. the guy is improving a lot. del piero too is gaining form. didn't even fail a dribble. camoranesi is our top guy in my opinion; excellent control of the ball, good crossing, he just needs to be faster. montero was excellent in defense and so were emerson and zambrotta.
liverpool didn't exploit the few chances they had especially the one-on-one which baros had. overall i didn't expect juve to win after i watched the first half. they were slow and liverpool were not giving them a chance. juve played a lot of high ball which was foolish since liverpool's defenders are much taller.
anyway congratulations for making it to the semi-finals, although it's useless :)
Arsenal defeated us 3 time and drew once last season, but we still managed to knock them out. I hope your right when you say we will beat L'pool, but you never know in the Champions League........
Yeah. Just think of this:
Liverpool knocked Juventus out at the Champions League quarter-final stage.
The incredibleness :D
yusuf eeli
13-04-2005, 21:47
chelsea easily gonna knock out liverpool
The final last year, Monaco vs. Porto. I'd say Piverlool are better than the both of them. Liverpool looked organised and showed good teamwork. They could be in with an outside chance. Think of Greece in Euro 2004.....
chelsea easily gonna knock out liverpool
shush;)
The final last year, Monaco vs. Porto. I'd say Piverlool are better than the both of them. Liverpool looked organised and showed good teamwork. They could be in with an outside chance. Think of Greece in Euro 2004.....
In fact none of last year's semi-finalists, apart from Chelsea, look like decent winners of the trophy.
So this year:
Chelsea vs Liverpool
Milan vs Lyon/PSV (in extra time)
marcrulz
13-04-2005, 21:55
come on liverpool! chelsea hater = me.
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davefitz87
13-04-2005, 21:56
Blast. Wont make excuses. We were poor. I was wrong. I'm a good loser.
Congratulations Liverpool, you deserved to win...
EDIT: Davefitz, there is such a thing as a bad winner. I didn'y do that to the Real fans. Congrats for being the smaller man...
I dont care what you think lornzihno, all i care about is that the team i have supported all my life have over-come the odds(again) and got past one of the best teams in the world!
L . F . C
13-04-2005, 22:05
well........what can i say, we were very lucky, we should have lost, but never the less im just so glad we are through and chelsea are goin out.
All the people who say chelsea have beaten 3 times and this will leave us with know chance, then may i add we outplayed them every single time, and with the team sure to be fit for the next CL match, we'll have no worrys upfront, great centre midfield and garcia is playing ace in the Cl, so I predict a:
Liverpool vs Lyon - Final
Lorenzinho
13-04-2005, 22:09
I hope Liverpool do well. Honestly, i do. Although i really can't see it. If they do beat Chelsea, they'll meet their match in AC Milan...
Congrats Liverpool, promises to be a great semi-final.
They always seem to come on top when every writes them off.
then may i add we outplayed them every single time
That's irrelevant, it's results that win matches, not how good the football is. Chelsea have beaten Liverpool 3 times, there's the facts. People aren't going to see the Carling Cup 2005 Winners: Chelsea Runners-Up: Liverpool. And go "Oh yeah, but Liverpool outplayed them".
Hats off to Liverpool
The more you write them off - the further they progress.
Can't write them off against Chelsea - but many will, myself included.
Great stuff - Two cracking legs ahead.
Itachi-san
13-04-2005, 22:49
Good game from both sides. Liverpool defense was top notch today. Too bad Juve didn't win. I'm looking forward to the Chelsea v Liverpool game. That is going to be a classic.
Well, i was right after all. I just cant believe Liverpool couldnt score one lousy goal...Baros should have nailed that chance. What can i say, they won without Hamman and Gerard...much respect! Sami Hyypia is a fucking star! I dont think ive ever seen a defender make so many headers in one game. He kept Zlatan on a leash all game. And Traore and Finnan came thru as i predicted. I wasnt too happy about the last 2 changes though. Garcia or Baros should have stayed in the pitch just in case.
Its all good though, im left with my initial funds thanks to some smart betting and my favorite english team is thru to the semis. Yeepee!
chelsea easily gonna knock out liverpool
Dozens of people said the same thing about Juve...
Final: Liverpool-AC Milan
Good game from both sides. Liverpool defense was top notch today. Too bad Juve didn't win. I'm looking forward to the Chelsea v Liverpool game. That is going to be a classic.
They have already played each other 3 times this season and know each other inside out.
I'll rather watch Chelsea vs Juventus.
Morientes19
14-04-2005, 08:57
juventus were crap in both legs against liverpool.
[/QUOTE]They always seem to come on top when every writes them off.[/QUOTE]
Kallum my friend you are so right but i think that is the thing that give's us that little extra push for us to win all critism makes the players want to win even more. But also i would like to say YES FUCKIN have that juve fans on here and all the rest of the people who writed us off my middle finger to all of you ha yes LIVERPOOL semi's here we come. Am in :wub: with my club i have supported all my life and will for the rest of my life. And figo o well it's hard look because you can't watch juve - chelski my friend if you have noticed it is chelski - liverpool.
Harry-Kewell
14-04-2005, 10:50
What a performance and what a result. Even though we never got the backing of the so-called experts (pundits, journalists) and from many neutral fans, I knew we could do it. I was confident we would. We made Juventus look like an ordinary side. On paper, nearly all their players would be classified as world class. We have a few, we also have a few good players and some that are just average but we overcame an obstacle, we defied the odds and now we're in the last 4 of the Champions League. :D
Next up is Chelsea. Chelsea fans know that they were lucky on twice of those 3 occasions that they beat us, hopefully now the luck will fall in our favour. Suddenly the injury crisis looks like it's starting to ease up. We should have Gerrard, Hamann, Josemi, a fully fit Alonso and Cisse and possibly Kewell back. More options for the manager and that's a welcomed dilemma, no doubt. Let the good times roll. :cool:
It was profesional display by liverpool over the two legs though juventus never played well in either leg i was sure that liverpool wouldnt lose the match yesterday revenge for liverpool over chelsea?
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