View Full Version : Are FA anti-Arsenal??????
Henry_IS_God
08-09-2003, 10:52
Definity!!!!!!!
Man utd suck!
jimijazz83
09-09-2003, 12:37
Get over it mate, isn't David Dein on the FA's main board? The FA are probably in cahoots with the London media just to get Arsenal in the papers all of the time!
Badgerman
09-09-2003, 18:49
Or are Arsenal Anti-FA?
Shut up you biased little toad.
Or are Arsenal Anti-FA?
I agree. How can Arsene Wenger stand there and say his players are being victimised and that they've done nothing wrong? They were blatent violent conduct, Jeffers, Campbell and Cole would've got a serious kick up the arse if I was Wenger.
elliottume
10-09-2003, 16:43
well said, just because you say "Ididn't see the incident" doesn't mean a thing!
PicturePerfect
11-09-2003, 20:48
The FA are probably in cahoots with the London media just to get Arsenal in the papers all of the time
Yes, because we have such a strong relationship with the media. :rolleyes:
Let's go over the points the media went through this summer.
Leaving out the countless 'Vieira to Madrid' rumours, being the kind people the media are, Ashburton Grove's apparent 'failiure' was the hot-topic this summer.
Pires and Vieira both shipping off to Mediterranean clubs which turned out to be (shock horror) false. Oh, and Henry moving to Chelsea for a few billion.
Arsenal to face relegation because they 'don't have the money to compete'. Yeah, this four game winning streak is really giving life to that.
And let's take a step back to that massively overblown "We will go undefeated this season" quote, shall we?
They were blatent violent conduct, Jeffers, Campbell and Cole would've got a serious kick up the arse if I was Wenger.
Wenger didn't condone what Jeffers or Cole did. He was dissapointed with Jeffers, he admitted that. With Campbell, in my opinion, both Djemba and Sol were at fault. Djemba for his intial high piercing boot - which must have endangered Sol's chances of fatherhood - and Sol for his reaction.
Although I won't go into the depths of conspiracy, I think the FA are definitely inconsistent. It always seems to be Arsenal players being called upon by them which seems strange. If they were harsh but consistent, things would be different. RVN blatantly punched Ljunberg in the stomach May of last year. Any action? Nothing. What about his forearm smash against Lauren in the FA Cup? Nothing. And since he's so damn good at it, how about doing it again to Legwinski of Fulham? It left the player with a black eye and a swollen cheek. Any action taken? No. They're a host of other incidents we could examine but I think you get the gist of it.
Also, it seems we're always brought up for the most minor of offences. How about Bergkamp's alleged 'stomping' of a Blackburn player. If you look at the video closely, he couldn't break an egg with stepping like that.
I think our bad luck in recent years is down to our team not being English enough anymore, really.
Alan Shearer can get away with kicking a player in the head.
David Beckham can get away with elbowing opposition but we get questioned for our player taking his shirt off in a goal celebration.
Inconsistent they are, yes. But to say they are being victimised, no. Are we ever going to see a time where refereeing and the FA are consistent all the time? Not much of a chance of that.
Let's take the example of the Community Shield. Now, this game must have had the most viewers watching a football for a long time after the Summer. It was a particularly high profile game bwtween teh top two Premiership clubs in the curtain raiser to the new season which may have given an indication of how the title would sway this season.
Now, three of Arsenal's players kicked out at Man Utd players. They weren't bad challenges for the ball, but violent after reactions in full view. The FA must take action, for A the severity of the 'challenges' and B to show that violent conduct like this would not be tollerated.
You have to question the Arsenal players. What the hell were they thinking? In such a high profile match. These guys are professionals, and should act like it. They are setting examples to millions of fans around the country. For Wenger to say "I didn't see the incident" or claim that his players are being victimised is rubbish. If you act in that way, you should expect to be punished.
In the case of Bergkamp, he's not exactly a saint is he? I have seen a few of his stamping incidents and would not liked to have been on the receiving end of some of them. That is not to say he is guilty in the incident you recall.
PicturePerfect
11-09-2003, 22:56
Yes, what Jeffers and Cole did was wrong. Did I ever say it wasn't? It was probably pure coincidence that both those men decided to act that way on the day. It was wrong and I never denied that.
One of your points was - "To show that violent conduct like this would not be tollerated."
If we're going to talk about violent conduct being tolerated, how about all those RVN challenges I mentioned above and the kick by Shearer? All in pretty 'high profile' games. Is punching someone in the gut deemed lawful while a kick is a punishable offence? At least take disciplinary action against them both fairly and not single one out.
Definity!!!!!!!
Man utd suck!
If man utd suck, then why doesnt Vieira mind joining united?
PicturePerfect
12-09-2003, 07:44
Bag, he walked into a ttrap mine there. The Man Yoo to Arsenal fan ratio here is like 12:1.
tomo1811
12-09-2003, 10:15
i feel sorry for arsenal, i mean all they do is kick people and elbow people and spit at people and they never get away with it, cum on 50 nred cards under arsene wenger sum things goin on there, i think its poor disapline
for once i back the f.a
yeah, arsenal deserve it, with there crap name
tomo1811
12-09-2003, 11:53
lol, take tht wayne
tomo1811
12-09-2003, 12:00
plus arsenal would rather be a crap team with a good stadium than a good team with a alright stadium
Yes, what Jeffers and Cole did was wrong. Did I ever say it wasn't? It was probably pure coincidence that both those men decided to act that way on the day. It was wrong and I never denied that.
One of your points was - "To show that violent conduct like this would not be tollerated."
If we're going to talk about violent conduct being tolerated, how about all those RVN challenges I mentioned above and the kick by Shearer? All in pretty 'high profile' games. Is punching someone in the gut deemed lawful while a kick is a punishable offence? At least take disciplinary action against them both fairly and not single one out.
I didn't see any of these incidents so I cannot comment on them. But perhaps they have taken note and decided to clamp down on these type of challenges. After all, we're only just into the new season. If an identical challenge was made by a different team and no action was taken then they'd have a case for complaint.
PicturePerfect
13-09-2003, 13:28
I didn't see any of these incidents
Does that sound familiar?
But perhaps they have taken note and decided to clamp down on these type of challenges. After all, we're only just into the new season. If an identical challenge was made by a different team and no action was taken then they'd have a case for complaint.
Even though it's not a case of just this season (since being inconsistent and unfair isn't a new thing) they have still been a few incidents that make you more then question the FA's judgement, Matteo kicked out against Bellamy when Leeds were at home to Newcastle. Hasselbaink took off his shirt against Liverpool and what happened? Nothing.
tomo1811
15-09-2003, 09:27
i cant be arsed to read tht but i agree
tomo1811
15-09-2003, 09:29
Rivaldo is set to quit AC Milan and will join Arsenal when the transfer Window reopens for a free transfer.i was told this from a very reliable source my m8 speo who's dad is a steward at higbury, mind u he was drunk
Badgerman
15-09-2003, 11:57
Erm, Henry_Is_God...
Why'd you PM me with this...
"fu*k u sh*thead , the stick arsenal get is bad especially to arsenal fans (me) arsenal av every right to appeal and speak their minds"
That was totally unexpected, I mean I voiced my opinion (like you but more mature) and you came back with that...
Should've expected that from an arsenal fan...
PicturePerfect
15-09-2003, 14:16
Should've expected that from an arsenal fan...
Stereotypical, no? :rolleyes:
Badgerman
15-09-2003, 15:12
Pretty hard not to be stereotypical when people like that are representing you :P
So you're an Arsenal fan?
In your opinion, did Pires dive?
PicturePerfect
15-09-2003, 15:32
Pretty hard not to be stereotypical when people like that are representing you :P
Ignore him.
So you're an Arsenal fan?
No, I just like sticking up for them. :)
In your opinion, did Pires dive?
I think he probably forced it, yeah. Pretty dodgy penalty and we had to rely on it for a draw. I was saddened we didn't get a goal in the second half but Pompey defended pretty well.
All in all, not a good day for us. Seems internationals weariness creeped in again. Still, it's not a loss. Just a draw. Though four wins and a tie isn't bad, at all.
rebusrahman
15-09-2003, 15:37
How can anyone say that the FA are anti-Arsenal? Because Campbell is being pursued for his poor discipline? Come off it. If anything, the FA will be embarrassed the worse Campbell comes off. After all, he is integral to England (barring Macedonia the game) and he came from the school of excellence. What other reasons are there for this supposed anti-nessness?
Does that sound familiar?
That is exactly my point. Wenger should take note of Steve Bruce. After that Birmingham player (I forget his name - begins with P) got sent off for punching Boa Morte, he said something along the lines of 'you always try to support your players but on this occasion I can't etc etc' None of this "I didn't see the incident" crap.
I'm getting a bit tired of this now. They're in the wrong and should accept their punishment. Wenger should learn when to stand by his players and when to put his hands up and admit they were in the wrong. Saying that Arsenal are getting picked on is a particularly childish response. I remember back when Petit played for them he complained refs were picking on him because he won the World Cup with France
:rolleyes:
Did anyone read about how they were unhappy with Beckham and co for celebrating in front of England fans last match when the fans weren't supposed to be there? That's bloody stupid, as I'm sure they would've been in trouble if they'd celebrated in front of the opposing fans. What did they expect them to do? Good job Becks isn't an Arsenal player... ( :D please don't read into that it's just a joke).
tomo1811
15-09-2003, 19:42
pires was tripped by the same bloke who 'fouled' kevin phillips
I'll have to say, Arsenal break the rules, get punished, and then claim there is a vendetta against them? Pathetic really :rolleyes:
I'll have to say, Arsenal break the rules, get punished, and then claim there is a vendetta against them? Pathetic really :rolleyes:
You've managed to sum up what I was trying to say in one sentence there mate :)
tomo1811
15-09-2003, 20:13
i can sum it up in two words
cheating bastards
Maybe they should bring in some germans, höhö
tomo1811
15-09-2003, 20:33
i find ur signature disturbing aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhh
i find ur signature disturbing aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhh
Mine? It's a work of art :P
Gooner_Harmer
16-09-2003, 08:45
Yes because teams regulary get awarding things at Man U...
Bolton, Leicster and some other teams have awful disciplinary records. But because THEY are not one of the best teams in the country, they are not moaned at.
Face facts. Whenever a bolton player kicks out at the opposition, will he be scrutinized? No. WOuld an Arsenal player. Of course.
tomo1811
16-09-2003, 09:49
i was just been told pires said he didnt dive, two unreliable sources 1 was pires saying he didnt dive well of course he aint gonna say he dived and the person who told me tht abt pires was an arsenal fan arsenal are just trying to get into the press cos there gettin upstaged by cockneys
tomo1811
16-09-2003, 09:52
and another thing isnt weird how arsene wenger misses thing tht his team have commited yet anything against his team was seen without and fault
Henry_IS_God
16-09-2003, 09:55
Pires did not dive!!!!
Only thing pires did tht was bad, was 2 lean his foot in2 him
Pires stumbled afta they collided, he didn't dive, he put is foot out 2 get tripped! lol
Dis is the second time ive seen summat like this!
How much times as van nistrelrooy dived and no1 sed nefin!
cuz their MAN UTD!!!!!!!
Pires did not dive!!!!
Only thing pires did tht was bad, was 2 lean his foot in2 him
Pires stumbled afta they collided,
How do you collide with someone 2 feet away from you? ;)
Henry_IS_God
16-09-2003, 11:28
ermmmmm more like 2 inches m8, well about 4 or 6 actually
lol
henryisgod, u hav a gay laff and pires runs like a duck,
Henry_IS_God
16-09-2003, 17:39
fuk u u ulgy c*** james
big eared twat! pires is a gr8 playa dnt diss!
tomo1811
17-09-2003, 08:06
arsenal were so desperate to keep up with man utd they cheat, pires dived. i give 9.8 it couldnt dun with an exageratted roll
rebusrahman
17-09-2003, 17:02
Pires is a fantastic player and so shouldn't have to dive?
tomo1811
17-09-2003, 21:00
hes admitted doing it b4, he said he dived against valencia, course hes a great player aint he!!!
Henry_IS_God
18-09-2003, 07:40
hes admitted doing it b4, he said he dived against valencia, course hes a great player aint he!!!
Yeah! he is a gr8 player and true sportsmen owns up to anything he does bad!
Ive ardly ever seen Toldo! what a keeper!!!!!!!!!!!!1 (buffon who?)
Lehnmann sucks!!!!!
tomo1811
18-09-2003, 10:08
well tht proves u arent a prober fan , i think lehmans alright
rebusrahman
18-09-2003, 10:21
Defence is the thing that's bad!
Henry_IS_God
18-09-2003, 16:31
How does critising a player make u not a true fan! Lehnmann is good! only wen it doesn't matter tho, it mattered last nite, he shud of saved the second and went too low , too early for da first goal! third well he shud of at least went the right way!!!
Defending was very poor tho! but ya cant expect defending to kept everything away from the goal (by nice tho) but it happens, we let them in on goal 4 times and 3 went in! and tht 1 hit the post!!!!!
tomo1811
18-09-2003, 21:48
he could of dive the right way, um tlking out ya arse marshmellow man
rebusrahman
19-09-2003, 07:26
At least Lehmann had the guts to admit he had cocked up big time. But the question still remains, why didn't Wenger sign a CB?
Badgerman
19-09-2003, 15:53
***AHEM***
Erm, Henry_Is_God...
Why'd you PM me with this...
"fu*k u sh*thead , the stick arsenal get is bad especially to arsenal fans (me) arsenal av every right to appeal and speak their minds"
That was totally unexpected, I mean I voiced my opinion (like you but more mature) and you came back with that...
Should've expected that from an arsenal fan...
Plus you're so biased in your opinions of pires' dive that they're not worth reading...
tomo1811
20-09-2003, 20:02
i know him!! hes so biased towards arsenal!! he wont admit there shit or wrong!! i admit wolves were shit today but in a way unlucky he could never give such and UNBIASED opinion
tomo1811
21-09-2003, 20:55
ive just watched man u v arsenal, i hope arsenal are punished big style by the f.a and its there own fault, vieria kicks out on van nistelrooy for hardly anything then RIGHTFULLY is sent off then keown unsportsman like shouts in the face of van nistelrooy when he misses a peno, then they push him after the final wistle abt 4 or 5 arsenal players and he did nothing, i hope they get points diducted cos there discipline is outa control and you ask the question the fa are anti arsenal, im not suprised wid dispicable behaviour like that
ive just watched man u v arsenal, i hope arsenal are punished big style by the f.a and its there own fault, vieria kicks out on van nistelrooy for hardly anything then RIGHTFULLY is sent off then keown unsportsman like shouts in the face of van nistelrooy when he misses a peno, then they push him after the final wistle abt 4 or 5 arsenal players and he did nothing, i hope they get points diducted cos there discipline is outa control and you ask the question the fa are anti arsenal, im not suprised wid dispicable behaviour like that
I agree. And here's Wenger's response after the game:
Upon being asked if V Nistelrooy had cheated to get Vieira sent off:
"Yes. I think van Nistelrooy does not help himself frankly. He is a great player but his attitude... he is always looking for... looking to dive. He looks a nice boy but on the pitch it is not always fair behaviour. If Patrick had to go off van Nistelrooy should have gone off. He [Vieira] is 100% sure van Nistelrooy caught him [as the United striker went up for a high ball].''
On the penalty incident:
"Keown said he went for the ball. They both went for it and I think it was harsh decision.''
What a load of bull. What the Arsenal players did at the end is bloody disgraceful. He must have missed that incident. Keown caught Van Nistelrooy round the back of his head for christ sake.
I aint read the whole thread but after seeing today's game I think u got the thread name wrong, it should be:
"Are Arsenal Anti-Discipline?"
:D
rebusrahman
22-09-2003, 23:02
Too right Rjs37. Are Arsenal anti-Arsenal? They're going about it the right way to f**k up their season!
Too right Rjs37. Are Arsenal anti-Arsenal? They're going about it the right way to f**k up their season!
Yea, no one is fucking them up except themselves and their manager.
rebusrahman
23-09-2003, 18:59
If their attitude does not change then I hope they win nothing at all this season. Personally, I love to watch the free-flowing attacking football that Arse can put on. But when they act like thugs on a Friday "pint and a fight" night then they deserve all they get...
tomo1811
26-09-2003, 02:43
are arsenal gonna get points diducted cos its the only way they will learn, fines are spare chaged to them points dont have the queens head on
PicturePerfect
26-09-2003, 18:26
That is exactly my point. Wenger should take note of Steve Bruce. After that Birmingham player (I forget his name - begins with P) got sent off for punching Boa Morte, he said something along the lines of 'you always try to support your players but on this occasion I can't etc etc' None of this "I didn't see the incident" crap.
I'm getting a bit tired of this now. They're in the wrong and should accept their punishment. Wenger should learn when to stand by his players and when to put his hands up and admit they were in the wrong. Saying that Arsenal are getting picked on is a particularly childish response. I remember back when Petit played for them he complained refs were picking on him because he won the World Cup with France
:rolleyes:
Did anyone read about how they were unhappy with Beckham and co for celebrating in front of England fans last match when the fans weren't supposed to be there? That's bloody stupid, as I'm sure they would've been in trouble if they'd celebrated in front of the opposing fans. What did they expect them to do? Good job Becks isn't an Arsenal player... ( :D please don't read into that it's just a joke).
So, you haven't seen any of those incidents have you? (RVN, Shearer) Then how do you propose to say the FA aren't inconsistent? It seems you've just drifted away from that argument then and sarted on something else. Okay, fine by me.
Have you seen Wenger's latest comments?
"We over-reacted on the penalty and after the final whistle, and I apologise for that. I'm sorry if we offended anyone and it will not happen again."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/3139798.stm
That looks like apologising to me. Arsenal players were in the wrong and he admitted it. What they did after Sunday's game was silly and not what we need but in no way was it violent. Media outlets and the likes of Sky have propelled it to a new level. We get 6 charges for some shoving, a bit of name-calling, that's all. Whereas a proper BRAWL (http://www.thefa.com/application?origin=template.js p&pageid=maximise&pageName=news&pillar=news&contentId=67301&contentType=1&subContentType=1) which involved managers from both sides involved got - get this - 2 charges. That's not right.
I'm going to echo his opinions on the media. In my mind, he's right.
"I have been in English football for seven years now and I have witnessed situations that were 10 times worse that were not punished. That doesn't mean we were right but it does mean that some people get away with some things they shouldn't get away with. Frankly, it's laughable."
On being asked to explain about his comments on RVN, Wenger said:
"I said what I said and I will defend that. I have heard other managers call our players cheats and they've never had to explain themselves to the FA."
In a way, the incidents with the FA now will shed some light on van Nistelrooy's obvious misdemeanors that have never been punished. They will be used by Arsenal to make a point that the playing fields aren't level. The FA cup game last season saw Ruud take out Martin Keown, then go into a challenge elbow first on Lauren. The night we won the league at Old Trafford, he clearly punched Ljungberg in the stomach.
Arsenal fans have complained to the FA why these incidents have never been looked at and they never have, nor has there ever been a passable explanation as to why they have not been looked at.
Oh, and, on the Steve Bruce situation. Didn't he decide to forget his comments and appeal against the red card on Purse (that's the name of the player) after 'looking at video evidence'?
For those of you who haven't seen the RVN, Freddie incident, which I find surprising since it's around the Net everywhere.
Here it is. (http://www.jazz.nildram.co.uk/LjungbergPunch.wmv)
People should just stop all the nonsense and do what they are good at, Play football. The sage is dragging on a bit now! I would like to see Arsenal be beaten by Newcastle tonight!
tomo1811
27-09-2003, 03:22
yeh it has run its course! i hear on skysports news all day, then henry_is_god all day, i dont wanna hearing it on here now
So, you haven't seen any of those incidents have you? (RVN, Shearer) Then how do you propose to say the FA aren't inconsistent? It seems you've just drifted away from that argument then and sarted on something else. Okay, fine by me.
Have you seen Wenger's latest comments?
"We over-reacted on the penalty and after the final whistle, and I apologise for that. I'm sorry if we offended anyone and it will not happen again."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/3139798.stm
That looks like apologising to me. Arsenal players were in the wrong and he admitted it. What they did after Sunday's game was silly and not what we need but in no way was it violent. Media outlets and the likes of Sky have propelled it to a new level. We get 6 charges for some shoving, a bit of name-calling, that's all. Whereas a proper BRAWL (http://www.thefa.com/application?origin=template.js p&pageid=maximise&pageName=news&pillar=news&contentId=67301&contentType=1&subContentType=1) which involved managers from both sides involved got - get this - 2 charges. That's not right.
I'm going to echo his opinions on the media. In my mind, he's right.
"I have been in English football for seven years now and I have witnessed situations that were 10 times worse that were not punished. That doesn't mean we were right but it does mean that some people get away with some things they shouldn't get away with. Frankly, it's laughable."
On being asked to explain about his comments on RVN, Wenger said:
"I said what I said and I will defend that. I have heard other managers call our players cheats and they've never had to explain themselves to the FA."
In a way, the incidents with the FA now will shed some light on van Nistelrooy's obvious misdemeanors that have never been punished. They will be used by Arsenal to make a point that the playing fields aren't level. The FA cup game last season saw Ruud take out Martin Keown, then go into a challenge elbow first on Lauren. The night we won the league at Old Trafford, he clearly punched Ljungberg in the stomach.
Arsenal fans have complained to the FA why these incidents have never been looked at and they never have, nor has there ever been a passable explanation as to why they have not been looked at.
Oh, and, on the Steve Bruce situation. Didn't he decide to forget his comments and appeal against the red card on Purse (that's the name of the player) after 'looking at video evidence'?
For those of you who haven't seen the RVN, Freddie incident, which I find surprising since it's around the Net everywhere.
Here it is. (http://www.jazz.nildram.co.uk/LjungbergPunch.wmv)
I didn't say the FA weren't inconsistent, I said they weren't picking on Arsenal. The game was watched by probably millions around the world. The FA must take action, as the game did not exactly show the Premiership in the best of light to other people. Are you then making the point that if it was the other way around and it was Man Utd players who had done what the Arsenal players did they wouldn't have been punished?
A lot of the Arsenal fans seem to be concentrating on Van Nistelrooy rather than the acts of their own players. If the FA should have punished VN then fine, but is this in any way defending what the Arsenal players did? It's like saying he got away with it why can't I.
I'd hardly have called it a punch. Yes there was intent to catch hFreddie on the way past and he did catch him. Much the same as Vieira, although he failed to make contact -and lucky he did not.
I don't see Steve Bruce retracting what he said, and I believe his appeal is based on that Purse did not attempt to punch Boa Morte but to retrieve the ball from him.
I agree with Wenger's comments about situations that have gone unpunished. But this still does not make the FA anti-Arsenal.
My argument is that the FA are not Anti-Arsenal, not that the FA are inconsistent. I don't think it's posssible to be 100% consistent where refereeing etc is concerned. What's your argument then? The FA are anti-Arsenal? Or VN should have been punished but wasn't?
BOTTOM LINE - I'm pretty tired of this subject.
PicturePerfect
01-10-2003, 18:45
"Although I won't go into the depths of conspiracy, I think the FA are definitely inconsistent. It always seems to be Arsenal players being called upon by them which seems strange."
Those were my first few sentences in this debate. I've admitted that the theories of the FA conspiring against the club are a little far-fetched but I do believe they are heavily inconsistent and frequently to us. Whether that's just our bad luck or an elaborate scheme waiting to be unmasked, I don't know. And being a fourteen-year-old living in a virtually unknown town, I don't think it's my place to find out. Maybe someone will though, some day.
My argument is questioning why the FA aren't punishing other clubs and players for events similar, identical or worse to what Arsenal are being punished for. It's just unfair and as an Arsenal fan, you get disillusioned. The thoughts of the FA targetting you are inevitable.
Anyway, if I didn't make myself clear enough in my earlier post, I don't condone the actions of the Arsenal players after Sunday's game against Man Utd. Although I believe they were blown way out of proportion, they were silly and unnecessary.
If you're tired of this subject, then fine. Just keep in mind that I've had a sum total of around 6 posts of 62 in this thread showing support for my Arsenal while nearly everyone else has either been slating or opposing the Gunners. There hasn't really been much debate, that's why I kept away from this topic until something new arose, such as the incidents after Sunday's game.
Henry_IS_God
02-10-2003, 13:43
Great reply m8
im with ya all the way!!!!!!!!!!! lol
Whoever sed they hope newcastle beat arsenal then haha u muppet! 3-2 (newcastle only had about 3 attacks, we gotta sort out our defence)
Get Well Soon Campbell ignore the idiots bad mouthing ya!
tomo1811
02-10-2003, 17:37
campbell is not ill u idiot his father died, i think you mean to pass on your condollances
Henry_IS_God
02-10-2003, 18:58
Oh shut up! I was on about his mental state! how would you feel if ur dad died TOMO! no offence lol
tomo1811
03-10-2003, 03:07
wayne wil u leave this subject uve been talking utter bolocks on it for nearly a month and u still havent put a solid case together to prove why the fa are apparantly ant arsenal, i agree theyve been harsh to arsenal but the f.a are nobs anyway they had a go at harry redknap for nothing when he said the ref was poor the same wid curbishley and dave jones the thing with the f.a is tht fifa inpose a rule the f.a will follow to the book and will ignore the factors of common sense perfect example robinsons non peno save from david dunn, my view is tht the f.a arent anti arsenal the f.a are just a bunch of blokes in suits who arent ex players or refs or mangers theyre business men whove been given a rule book and told to abide by it despite the desperation call from the media, managers, players ,FANS like us to use there common sense
I find it funny that the original poster has under his name the fact that he's from Wolverhampton, and also the fact that he's proud of it.
Now, if you were proud of it matey, would you not support Wolves rather than Arsenal?
If it means anything the FA are reviewing the Phillips-Quedrue incident to establish what role Quedrue played in Phillips' sending off, and hopefully dishing out some punishment for him too. Perhaps a sign of improvement from the FA.
I've never been anti-Arsenal. I'm just against that sort of behaviour. I would have reacted the same if it were any other club
Henry_IS_God
03-10-2003, 03:55
Tomo ur anti arsenal 4 a start, i agree wif the fa thing, but u talk shit wen it cums 2 arsenal! leave them alone u diving c**t!
People dnt like arsenal cuz most players r foreign!
Ive liked arsenal all my life they r the reason i watch footie! and i cum from wolves, its not bad 2 support 2 teams u rele like!
PicturePerfect
03-10-2003, 03:59
My 9-year-old cousin supports Real Madrid, Manchester United and David Beckham. :)
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