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SveNGali
09-09-2003, 19:37
Where is he in WE7?
hes not in brazil?
sorry if this is in the wrong forum
Chuck Morris
10-09-2003, 11:05
Was Denilson even at the World Cup? I can't remember him being there.
SveNGali
10-09-2003, 12:57
yes he was. he was a sub and it took 5 people to try to takle the ball from him
Edmundo22
25-09-2003, 00:23
yes he was. he was a sub and it took 5 people to try to takle the ball from him
he's in the Real Betis team in WE7.
Was Denilson even at the World Cup? I can't remember him being there.
Yeah, Denilson came on as a substitute in all 7 of Brazil's matches. The first player ever to do this in the World Cup. He came on really late in the World Cup final, which was disappointing, as he was literally making players fall over themselves.
L . F . C
19-10-2003, 16:55
he really is class
anyone see it in the final when he went to cross then cut back inside and left the german on his arse?
quality :D
SveNGali
26-10-2003, 01:12
he sucks in this game though, his shot power and accuracy is quite poor but dribbling he is just too gr8.
familymahone
28-10-2003, 03:20
Denilson the king of the lollipop as big ron would say - surely one of the most overrated players in the world, good job he isn't unstoppable in the game, Ronaldinho on the other hand ...
denilson has always been a bit crap on pes. suppose its cos his main asset is his unpredictability which cant be accounted for in the game.
Although most of his stat is crappy compared to other Brazillian forwards, his dribbling is one of the bests in the game.
robinho17
28-10-2003, 21:35
denilson is not a scorer..his role in football is to attrack defenders get by a few with his triple stepovers..and open a cut pass or cross to an open man. He is the originator of the triple stepover...and mentor to the new brazilian wonderkid Robinho "also know in brazil 'king if dribbles'.."..christiano ronaldo your good but not as good as Robinho...if you were brazilian then maybe you might be half as good as robinho in dribbles!
familymahone
28-10-2003, 22:43
Dribble god maybe but until he gets kicked up in the air by Dave Unsworthinho he ain't worth worrying about. All style no substance these flamboyant Brazilians unless he has the power of Ronaldo he's going nowhere.
robinho17
29-10-2003, 04:43
who the hell is .dave unsworthinho(english i assume?)dont think he even plays in a 2nd division???...dont get me started on dissing brazilian football...the english invented soccer..brazil perfected it! and dont say crap until you win another 4 world cups..and at the same time beat brazil in the world cup a few times...in which england has never done..also win a few world player of yr awards with your best player! notice any team with brazilian players wins tournaments..example champions league,spanish,world tournaments..cause they are unstopable and produce the most talent. and not to mention the king of soccer and athlete of the century is brazilian ...king pele. if you read a few articles the brazilian ppl have anointed Robinho as pele succesor!
familymahone
29-10-2003, 06:01
And theres me thinking you were Australian. Dave Unsworthinho is without doubt the greatest left back the world has ever seen. Tackles like Beckenbaur, speed of Henry, close control of Zidane, dribbling ability of Georgie Best, header like Gullit and a left foot to die for. I always rated Maradona as the best player ever anyway, head and shoulders above anyone else.
Who the hell is Dave Unsworthinho? Can't find any info about him anywhere? Your created player??????
Then I also have John Doh, the greatest player in history with 99 in all stats, over 2m tall, red pony hair wearing mask and glasses. :)
robinho17
29-10-2003, 20:00
Maradona is great...but pele is god..maradona achievements are no where near in relms of pele...maradona went to 4 world cups and only won once..pele went to 4 world cups won 3..could of won 4 if portugal didnt hack him down..which in nowadays would of lost the whole team through red cards. pele scored over 1200 goals ...maradona is one of a kind, talented yes..but not talented and graceful as pele!..this dave unworthinho...maybe one day he might get to play in the england z team?
familymahone
29-10-2003, 22:56
You gotta remember that Maradona took an average side to the final twice, in 86 his genius virtually won it singlehanded and in 90 that team was awful but he pulled them through. Pele on the other hand played in great Brazil teams climaxing in the 70 win (that team would have won it without him anyway), players like Garrincha, Didi, Vava and all that 1970 team were pure class which helped no end. By the way Dave Unsworth is the big clogging left back at everton, touch of an elephant and speed to match, he's in the game so check him out for a laugh.
robinho17
30-10-2003, 06:13
umm you got some point about maradona playing with a team no where near in the comparison with brazil and taking the title!but you also gotta consider...Pele was only 17 when he won brazil first world cup..and most of the important goals ..including 2 in the final game..watch pele goal in "58"age 17 world cup final..he does a flick in mid air..he seems to stop time time in the box and score."70 world cup final...many great players...but pele was the final piece to the puzzle to an already great team.Pele made the most important plays and goals in that world cup.he the one who passed the all important pass to jairzinho to get past england 1-0..after a very tight game...in the final he..was in every play scoring a goal ....1st scored a goal...and assisted in the next 2 goals!Alberto carlos said himeself" i was the captain, but pele was our leader, and promised we would take the cup"
the only chance maradona would get close to be up with pele..is if he didnt take drugs..and used his full potential!
familymahone
30-10-2003, 19:32
over-rated, 1200 goals? he must have counted the ones he scored in training too. Heh heh. Played with the Classic Brazil team last night for the first time, I have to say I'm well impressed apart from the fact that Garrincha missed an open net from 6 yards - think I need a bit more shooting practise.
robinho17
30-10-2003, 20:17
1200 yeh might seem alot..but dont forget in those days there seldomly players were sent off for foals ..so who knows he could of scored up to 2000 goals. He must be a good player if your actual country places you as a "national treasure" in which none of the big european teams including real madrid were able to get a chance there hands on.
familymahone
30-10-2003, 21:02
Brazillians ain't known for their defending so perhaps that might have had something to do with it too, when games end up 7-4 you know something is wrong. It's like Henrik Larsson playing for Celtic in the Scottish league - he scores up to 50 a season in a poor league where there is only one other quality side. I'm sure if Pele had played in Europe instead of Brazil and the US he wouldn't have scored half that amount of goals, certainly not in Italy anyway where the art of fouling has been taken to new heights.
My opinion is that Pele is god and that Maradona has always been 2nd to Pele.
crossy 123
30-10-2003, 21:29
how do u make denilson
crossy 123
30-10-2003, 21:32
how do you change footballs
You can't make any types of footballs which i think is pretty crap. I see your a new member crossy 123 so welcome to the site.
Crossy123 you can put a badge under your name all u have to do is go and click on user cp in the top right hand corner of the screen and then u click on avater and choose. good luck.
familymahone
30-10-2003, 23:28
Its all a matter of opinion but in pure footballing terms I am in no doubt that Maradona would wipe the floor with Pele when both were in their prime. I don't think there would be any argument if Diego hadn't of snorted his career away or cheated the English out of WC'86. 2 league titles for Napoli who hadn't been heard of before or since swings it for me despite the Mafia rumors that will always plague him. I see Pele as the best player in the old era but in true modern-day football there can be only one.
http://www.diegomaradona.com/ingles/iindex.html
Pele would absolutely kick that drug-taking fat boy(maradona) arse any day when they were in their prime. I don't care what anyone else thinks but Pele would completely spank Maradona's heiny. But there is no dubt of who is the best keeper of all time it is of coarse the one and only Peter Schmeichel he is a ultimate legend.
sdrawkcab
31-10-2003, 02:06
Ronaldo said recently that Pele's goal scoring record was so high because Brazil played crappy teams, winning like 10-0 and stuff.
familymahone
31-10-2003, 03:30
yeah thats what I'm saying, you don't get those sorts of scores in football these days. The formations in those days were 5 forwards and 2 defenders, no one even knew what defending was let alone marking. You have to take everything into context and after the world cup in 1970 things completely changed which is probably why Brazil didn't win the cup again until 1994 despite having some great teams.
robinho17
31-10-2003, 05:30
yeh if you put things into context..yes maybe he might not of scored as many goals in europe...but still considering fouls in those days..you obviously gotta add the goals that might of been..so in the end i think he would of scored 1000 goals no matter what league around the world. in every world cup, exibition matches around the world with santos...no one could touch pele..they would score with huge margins....so it doesnt matta what league he played in..he would of been unstopable. Anways it's like comoaring Don Bradman in cricket..he had an average of (99.6)runs a game..and todays best would be something like tendulkar..(nearly 60)...even though todays game has changed..everyone still knows bradman was the king of the game..no matter what era.the same with football pele was light years above anyone including maradona! to be named athlete of the century comes only once a 100 years..beating the like of mohamad ali,babe ruth, michael jordan..everyone else you name it..and win..means ppl around the world think you were the best at your sport you did above anyone else!
robinho17
31-10-2003, 05:35
Oh yeh..as much as i admire Ronaldo(my favourite european player)..he was wrong for saying those comments...he has been ridiculed in brazil from them...if you read articles from brazil...majority of ppl have relied "he is mainly jealous of pele achievements, knowing pele is 3 times the player he is!pele was the complete player..he was a stricker and score goals, but he was also a playmaker!
sheringham316
31-10-2003, 05:49
I think that george best was my favourite, if only he wasnt such a alcholic. I heard good things about tha portugal "ebusio"(i think thats how you spell it)
My fav keeper of all time is deffintly Peter Schmeichel. HES 10/10 lest hope tim howard can follow his footsteps :D
Yeah Pele might have been one of a kind then , but wtf is he doing now!! I SEE HIM IN THIS ERECTION PROBLEM comercial. Hes went from football to that. SUM LEGEND.
familymahone
31-10-2003, 06:38
You can't add the goals that might have been, if that were the case you may as well just count all the shots he missed as 'might have been' too. It's just plain daft. You shouldn't take those goal figures at face value either as there has never been any evidence to suggest that he scored that amount. I mean the one thing we do know is that if you break those figures down, he has included all his goals for Santos Juniors in the count and probably all his goals for some other Mickey Mouse outfits too. It's a story thats been rumbling on for years and years and it just adds to the myth I suppose. I remember a few years ago Romario saying something similar to Ronaldo and last year 'Big Phil' Scolari had a dig as well so the sun doesn't shine out of his arse as much as he would like you to think it does.
familymahone
31-10-2003, 07:00
how did this become a pele v maradona debate anyway? there is no right or wrong answer and in the end when it comes to the question of who is best between the pair everyone agrees to disagree. Such is the beauty of football. The fat argie is still the best though.
robinho17
31-10-2003, 10:36
yeh pele has done an erection commercial..but that is only part of the multi milliion endorsments he earns..he charges $50,000 an interview...and earns anually around 25 million US....yeh there is much debate who is the best ever,pele,pukas,di stephano,beckenbaur,best, maradona..list goes on...but in the record books it's pele..i dont think anyone on the list has a record such as pele(goals,assists,world cups,clubs cup) ..based on achievement and skill ..i rate beckenbaur next..only cause he was an attacking defender, plus he won the WC..as a player and coach.(a few yrs ago they took an official world wide poll..who was the best ever...Pele was 1st,beckenbaur was 2nd, i think is was maradonna was 3rd or 4th)Players such as romario,ronnie..critisize only cause they are jealous of Pele achievment..ppl will argue how many goals pele really scored..no one will trully know...in 20 years time the ppl will argue the same thing with ronnie,romario how many goals they really scored,...one thing i do know for sure..he scored more then and other brazilian player by a mile!!! in brazil..every young kid wants to be the next pele/garrincha....not ronnie,romario..because he is the king and god/legend of brazil! Pele is the most consistent player..from his 1st WC "58" at 17 he dominated..to his last "70"maradona had only one good WC were he shined..the others..his mentality took over him!he let his country down!same way as beckham done the same at the "98" WC
ps: i was just making an estimation of how many goals pele might of scored in europe based on exibition matches with santos against european teams.. cause he never played full time in europe!well the pretty much official number is around 1200 for santos....any other player you can debate with there numbers also..so for instance romario scored 1000 goals..ppls are gonna say he included his jnr goals also!
sheringham316
31-10-2003, 17:54
yeh pele has done an erection commercial..but that is only part of the multi milliion endorsments he earns..he charges $50,000 an interview
how do u know how much he charges :D :D hehe
robinho17
31-10-2003, 20:28
documentary by this british company aired on tv a few weeks ago.
familymahone
31-10-2003, 22:06
fifty grand for an interview? thats pretty good money, I wonder how much he got for being in Mike Bassett?
yeah thats what I'm saying, you don't get those sorts of scores in football these days. The formations in those days were 5 forwards and 2 defenders, no one even knew what defending was let alone marking. You have to take everything into context and after the world cup in 1970 things completely changed which is probably why Brazil didn't win the cup again until 1994 despite having some great teams.
is it true that in the past era, football is play in this manner?
pardon a young one asking.
CHEERS!
btw i think maradona is the best. he can kick the ball 50yards into the air without moving and kick again.(get what i mean?) during some all stars match
familymahone
01-11-2003, 18:18
yup they had strange positions like inisde left, wing half and all that, seems bizarre these days. football evolved quite a bit after the '70 world cup when the italians and germans especially sorted out their defensive systems opting for a 3-5-2 to squeeze the midfield and reduce the service to the strikers. in 1970 brazil were playing with a 4-2-4 or 4-3-3 with the left winger pushed almost into a forward position with pele often dropping back into a playmaking role. wow that brazil team were something special though and probably the greatest team ever regardless of whether pele is the best individual or not. I will admit that much at least.
ohh i see. from what i seen brazil is the best football nation in the world, without a shadow of doubt. though i cant understand why brazilian league not popular in other parts of the world.. their players are good stuff
robinho17
02-11-2003, 13:22
even though brazil produce the most talent..there league is quite competitive and full of skill..the only reason why it is not poular around the world..is the administrators are corrupt. there has been a famous saying...a man was complaining to god..why do brazil get all the most talented players and win WC's...god replied..dont worry i will also give them the worst administrators!"
Pele king of football(talent A+,skill A+,ambassador to football A+,WC A+, Achievments A+, Mentality B) Maradona (talent A,skill A+, ambassador to football F,WC's C..had the potential to win more..if his mentality was better, achievements C, Mentality C) Last i head the Argentinians just celebrated maradona b-day..he himself was not able to attend the function..because at the moment he is living in cuba..attending a drug rehab centre.
ahh how the great hero has fallen from grace. its robinho still amazing crowd with his skills? there is no media exposure of brazilian league. i want to know more about it, any ideas? url?
robinho17
03-11-2003, 19:44
Well Robinho has not been in that so good a form most of this yr compared to last yr..but in his last 3 games he has scored 5 goals ..he is back to his best...beating 3 defenders with his awesome dribbling and scoring goals. You can check him out at there official website.. www.santosfc.com.br or try www.globo.com ..both site are in portugese..so you will need to translate it ..maybe with google.
MatPhillips
03-11-2003, 21:26
where does this Robinho play...err...robinho?? for what team?
strange i usually know about the up and comers in Brazil, one slipped thru the net!
FamilyMahone, you are taking the P about David Unsworth aren't you? he's not even everton's best defender nevermind anything else!!!!! you seem so serious that i'm now doubting that you were joking
familymahone
03-11-2003, 23:35
davie unsworth is a footballing genius. Unfortunately the Brazilian league is riddled with corruption which is breaking it's back.
Ricardo Teixeira (president of the Brazilian Football Confederation (CBF) and a member of FIFA's executive committee) was said to lived in luxury all at the CBF's expense, he even donated their money to political campaigns!.
Even former national coach Wanderley Luxemburgo was at it by giving caps to loads of players and fixing them up with dodgy passports so they could be sold onto European clubs with him taking a cut of the transfer fee. After investigation it was found he had amassed $9million over 5 years and was done for tax-evasion and money laundering, he got 5 years but won't go to jail until the whole appeals process is finished (which could be years). Bloody ridiculous really, until they sort out that whole mess the league there will continue to stagnate.
Well Robinho has not been in that so good a form most of this yr compared to last yr..but in his last 3 games he has scored 5 goals ..he is back to his best...beating 3 defenders with his awesome dribbling and scoring goals. You can check him out at there official website.. www.santosfc.com.br or try www.globo.com ..both site are in portugese..so you will need to translate it ..maybe with google.
okay its cool, thanks! :D
robinho17
04-11-2003, 05:05
Mat Phillips..Robinho 19 is probably the biggest rising star along with diego his team mate to come out of Brazil for a long time. Robinho plays for the team Santos (Pele team) in Brazil and has been regarded as Pele next predecesor (there has been many..but ppl truly believe Robinho can someday emulate him)Robinho main qualitys is his dribbling..dribbles very much like denilson but 3 times more. He has a lot of maturing to do as a lot the of time his productivity and finishing can go wayward...but when he pulls a play off and become more consistent with age ..it will be like watching pele, pele himeself said " when i see robinho , he reminds me of myself in my playing days".Robinho can takeover a game and play as if there was devil inside him. The other is Diego..he has been probably the most consistant and most talked about in brazil. People have labbled him a mini zidane....His coach Emerson leo said Robinho dribbles the ball better then Pele, and Diego controls the play better then Zico..i know he's bias..but that is a big wrap for a kid 18 years old.
MatPhillips
04-11-2003, 19:20
Excellent, cheers Robinho, i had heard a lot about Diego (didn't Tottenham try to sign him for something daft like 2 or £3million??)
if this Robinho is as good as i'm now hearing i'm sure i'll see him before long, is he in the national youth sides yet??
robinho17
04-11-2003, 19:38
Yeh it's the same Diego who nearly was signed by tottenham....yeh Robinho said after santos ..he wants to play for Barcelona(for some reason brazilians like to play for them?)..yeh Robinho has played for the national team along side diego, ronaldo and co..but with his poor form of late ..he has not made it back..with good form of recent..he has a goood chance of returning his place for the WC qualifiers in late Nov.
MatPhillips
04-11-2003, 20:36
oh ok.
this may seem like a weird question Robinho, but are YOU actually Brazilian but live in Austrailia or what?
familymahone
04-11-2003, 23:31
Isn't every forward that comes out of Brazil called the 'new pele'?, heard it all before. Where is the new Rafael Scheidt?
robinho17
05-11-2003, 04:20
Yeh as i stated before Family!!! a lot of the rising stars have been called the new Pele! but Robinho has justified his place more then any others before him..and ppl believe so...look at him 1st there is some reseblence in colour, build at the same age, and team. Then many of the brazilian ppl believe he has qualities in play that have many similarities to the Great one!Even Pele himself announced that he will be his true successor. Rafael sheidt..never heard of him.
robinho17
05-11-2003, 04:21
Nah im not a brazilian...just a mad brazilian supporter!!!
familymahone
05-11-2003, 06:31
oh dear not pele's predictions, he's usually 100 miles off on most of them so much it's becoming a running joke. why is it you are so fascinated with brazil anyway? you watch any other south american football?
robinho17
05-11-2003, 14:51
why and who wouldnt be..facianted with brazilian football..they produce and play the most creative and attacking football (if brazil had the money and wearnt so corrupt..then they will one of the top leagues in the world)..., they win world cups..what more can you ask for.?Unfortunately i harldy get to see brazilian league games..so i mainly watch through the web..and get the latest scores...i also watch most Priemere league games and champions league. Yeh Pele is not to good with predictions (colombia win the WC)..but i do now follow what he says...i just follow what the most regarded football journalist in brazil think..and many of them believe robinho is the closest thing ever to the next Pele. Argentinian football is nice attacking..but i like brazil because when they play they create things ..they look like dancing with defenders. They bring style to the game..other nations can do the same tricks..but when brazil do it..it's looks all so natural and effortless.
that's true, i'v seen clips about robinho and he is quite something
and brazil plays the best attractive football in the world. maybe argentina and holland could compete for being most beautiful football dished
robinho17
05-11-2003, 18:28
familymahome..here is an article pulblished at fifa.com a few months ago on Robinho. since you dont believe anything i say.
Robinho - the 19-year-old with a $35m price tag
(FIFA.com) 24 Apr 2003
Robinho of Santos lifts the trophy 15 December, 2002, at Morumbi Stadium in Sao Paulo after his team defeated Corinthians in the Brazilian soccer championship. Santos won 3-2. AFP PHOTO
Mauricio LIMA
A new star has been born in Brazilian football. Robinho, a striker with electrifying dribbling skills, plays for reigning Brazilian champions Santos and has already been compared to the likes of Garrincha and Pelé. The latter has even said that Robinho might well overshadow him one day. FIFA Magazine traces the rise of Brazil’s newest phenomenon.
By Jörg Wolfrum
Not so long ago, Robinho was more of a concern to his mother and father – Marina and Gilvan – than to opponents on a football field. Much to his parents’ dismay, he would tear around the streets of São Paulo trailing after anything that even slightly resembled a football – entirely oblivious to the streams of traffic thundering past.
Today, 19-year-old Robinho is, however, quick to play down the effect that those hours of kicking around tin cans and makeshift balls fashioned from bundles of material have had on his breathtaking skills.
In December 2002, it was those skills that grabbed media attention worldwide when he produced a flash of brilliance that included an incredible seven step-overs in quick succession during his club Santos’ 3-2 victory in the second leg of the championship decider against Corinthians, which ultimately secured the Brazilian title. The only way Robinho’s frustrated opponent Rogerio could stop the dazzling dribbler was to cut him down in full flow inside the penalty area. Robinho stepped up to open the scoring from the resulting penalty kick, before later turning provider for his team’s second and third goals.
“I guess it was a little cheeky,” said Robson de Souza – Robinho’s full name – to jubilant reporters at the end of the game and the newspapers swiftly drew parallels between the youngster’s dribbling and the deft trickery of the legendary Garrincha. However, the latest in a long line of Brazilian talents would hear nothing of such a comparison and assertively put his ball skills down to a “gift from God” – and not the result of kicking around tin cans.
“King of the Dribble”
It is not only in Brazil that Robinho has been sending shivers down opponents’ spines. In Santos’ 5-1 win over Colombian giants América de Cali in a Copa Libertadores tie in February 2003, Robinho again proved to be a revelation alongside his congenial 17-year-old strike partner Diego, who served as an inspirational provider. Robinho’s performance was so impressive that he was even feted in the chants of the Colombian fans and after the match the press in Cali heaped compliments on the “King of the Dribble”.
The young striker has not merely gained accolades from the media in Colombia and Brazil, but he has also provoked comparisons with stars like Garrincha and even Pelé. Pelé himself is unreserved in his admiration for the striker: “Robinho has the ability to be even better than I was.”
The diminutive teenager, who stands just 1.72m tall and weighs only 60kg, first attracted Pelé’s attention a few years ago, when the retired great sent a 14-year-old Robinho to eat with the Santos first team.
Despite what he has been given “from above”, Robinho is still very slight in build, and his coach Emerson Leão, a former goalkeeper and coach of the Brazilian national team, is among the first to admit it. Leão pays the very highest tribute to his whirlwind talent (“Robinho is already a much better dribbler of the ball than Pelé”), but at the same time acknowledges the fledgling star’s weaknesses: “The main thing that he is missing is strength and at times he can also lack the vision to pick out a team-mate in a better position.”
In Leão’s mind, Robinho is very much an “old-fashioned” player, with a penchant for dribbling rather than shooting. And with the young prodigy still more of a rough diamond than a polished professional, he inevitably relies more on innate talent than technique. But Leão sees these shortcomings as “minor things that can be improved”.
Most promising discovery since Ronaldo
Robinho already deals with the plaudits like an old-hand. “It is too early to call me the new Pelé,” he says, before assuredly adding, “I have not reached my potential yet.” Having played football with Robinho when he was a boy in the suburb of São Vicente, sports journalist Juliano Costa is sure that the player who is probably the most promising discovery in Brazilian football since Ronaldo will still keep his feet on the ground in the face of so much acclaim: “He is used to praise.” At the age of six, Robinho was already the best youth player in Baixada Santista - another São Paulo suburb.
Santos recently ruled Robinho out of playing at the FIFA World Youth Championship 2003. His outstanding ability made the club’s management adamant that they could not do without the striker, since he will play an integral part in the club’s quest to win the Copa Libertadores.
In an attempt to hold on to Robinho’s masterly skills for as long as possible, the club has even slapped a USD 35 million price tag on the talented right-footed player. Nevertheless, many top clubs in Europe are already courting the youngster. Mention of such a huge transfer fee sends the baby-faced star into just as big a spin as one of his mazy runs: “I don’t think about the money”.
After all, he has got other things on his mind: “I want to go to Athens for the 2004 Olympics with the Brazilian team.” And of course win the 2003 Copa Libertadores too.
MatPhillips
05-11-2003, 18:46
cool! Robinho sounds excellent, i'll have to look harder for clips of him!!
i'm a mad keen Brazil supporter too!!!
(i bought the Blue Brazil world cup shirt 2 weeks before They knocked England out but still wore it to school throughout the world cup)
damn did i get some stick for that....but it was worth it.
They are so attractive in an attacking sense, i always think what will happen when Carlos, Cafu and Rivaldo retire in 3-4 years time, but then you look at all those coming through,
Ronaldinho (i'm a huge fan, so disappointed when he shunned Man U for Barcelona), Diego, Robinho, Adriano, Ricardinho and the like. the futures bright, the futures Yellow
robinho17
05-11-2003, 19:20
eww i dont place to much expectation on Brazil even though they have made it to WC finals the last 3 times and won 2...they have good crop of young talent on the way..with key veteran players such as ronaldo, and ronaldinho....they look good on paper..but who knows what might happen in 2006? I just hope carlos alberto perreira is sacked before then..he plays to defensively..which is totaly against the style of play of brazilians. i think brazilians motto is not to worry how many goals the opponent scores..just work on having more goals then they do. More goals the more fans will be happy.
yeh i have a brazil 98 WC jersey...good thing about Australia is that brazil have the same jersey colours green and gold ..so most ppl will think im wearing a Aussie jersey.
Matphilips, i have some of his clips.. like the one where robinho17 says he do a seven step-overs in quick succession to win a penalty. if u want, i could send you! CHEERS! :P
MatPhillips
05-11-2003, 21:34
cheers f3n1xtx!
that would be great, if you could!
familymahone
05-11-2003, 23:42
You could have just posted the link. 7 step overs is taking the piss - only in brazil could you get away with that. He sounds very lightweight so he'll have to beef up a bit when he comes over to Europe or he will just be knocked off the ball and could sustain a serious injury if up against someone like Mijhilovic (if last night's game was anything to go by). He'll also have to improve his all round game if he isn't to become a liability to the team, football is a team-game and far more than just silky skills. It will be interesting to see hm in action but I doubt whether it will be in the next few years. I guess he would go to Spain with Barcelona the likely team though whether or not they could afford that kind or fee remains to be seen. A talent yes but not the finished article you make him out to be, one serious injury might be enough to ruin his career as has happened so often in the past.
robinho17
06-11-2003, 04:27
i never made him out to be as a pele already familymahome.. all i said was he has very much the potential to become the next pele..as the article pointed out.he has a lot of growing up to do..as with any superstar at the same age.... I couldnt post the link because i lost it... i copy and pasted this article from a word document a few months ago. yeh he is a tiny little thing..he need to gain atleast 5-10 kg...but now adays it not like the pele era when you get hacked down you dont recieve a red card..so the chances of being hacked now adays without being red carded is very slim!i just promoting a guy who has qualities who brings entertainment to all parts of the world...why dis me eh...most ppl seem to agree with me..the article also..so it's not like im making it up. .. the 7 stepovers..if he was to do that in europe...there is only 2 possibilities he will get past 2 defenders easily..or he will be hacked down by the defender that included the player no one knows about.....nesta,samuel,stam, thuaram..whoever...and red carded!!!!! you cant beat greatness.
i downloaded from k***a(the word is taboo right?)
you guys go search
fattyronaldo
04-11-2004, 14:58
i would like to add over to the discussion from previous posts bout maradona and pele.
pele needed space to work wonders. maradona didn't. :D
7 Pages 2 On Denilson And 5 On Pele & Maradona This Thread Fooled Me I Thought This Was Just On Denilson But I New It Was To Good To Be True
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