View Full Version : D1 Fixture 3: Penguin v Colt
Highway Penguin
07-06-2005, 17:40
Penguin -
-----------------------Toldo------------------------
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-----------Puyol-----Carragher----Maldini------------
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----------------Gravesen----------------------------
--------------------------Marquez-------------------
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---Robinho-------------------------------Ronaldinho--
-----------------------Aimar-------------------------
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-------------Shearer-------------Eto'o---------------
Subs-
Kapo
Johnson
Kromkamp
Boumsong
Boa Morte
Colt -
http://premium1.uploadit.org/SteveMcDude//football_pitch1.BMP
0-4 = 0 goals
5-8 = 1 goal
9-12 = 2 goals
13-16 = 3 goals
17-20 = 4 goals
Colt Python
07-06-2005, 20:03
Schweinsteiger and Ze Roberto are going to have a field day up against... eh... no one.
:D
Oh and if Gravesen and Marquez pull wide (lets face it Dinho and Binho ain't trackin' back) Ballack and Totti will clean up, even if they don't Schweinsteiger and Ze would skelp those 2 for pace anyway.
And don't say what about Binho and Dinho going forward as they are out numbered 2 to 1. Ze and Lahm & Schwein and Cafu.
Highway Penguin
07-06-2005, 21:17
....up against Ronalinho, Robinho, Maldini and Puyol. ;)
Geez, talk about breaking the news lightly -
Let's start from the attack and work our way back:
Gk - Frey and Toldo: I'm biased because I like Parma. :) I'm being honest here by the way.
D-
Samuel, Kovac, Cafu, Lahm vs Maldini, Puyol, and Carragher
I give you credit on Cafu, because the man has like 5 hearts and 10 lungs, he never gets tired. Lahm is a nice addition, he's young, but I think a lack of experience would hurt him in the end. I don't know much about Kovac, but I do know that Samuel isn't the quickest of defenders and he'd have trouble breaking down Shearer, Eto'o, Dinho, Aimar, and Robinho.
Puyol has shown his true skills in the last two season. He's comanding and it's hard to get by him. Maldini, regarded as one of the best defenders of all time. The man is amazing. Carragher has been rated highly this season. Liverpool would have had trouble without him. Giving Terry, Campbell, and Ferdinand competition.
Midfield-
Marquez, Gravesen, Ronaldinho, Robinho, and Aimar vs. Ballack, Keane, Schweinsteiger, Ze Roberto, and Totti.
Keane seems to be your anchor for it all. Ballack controlling the center and then Schweinsteiger and Roberto on the sides. With Totti pushing the ball up to Cassano.
Hm, well, we are both playing a 5 man midfield so it's pretty balanced in that aspect. Though I think my wingers are much better. Ronaldinho and Robinho compared to Schweinsteiger and Ze Roberto. Gravesen has shown how aggresive and hard headed he is, so going up against Keane wouldn't be hard for him, it'd be interesting. I'd give you Ballack over Marquez, due to Ballack being more popular due to being the machine in the German's midfield. Even if Marquez is one of North America's best players. :)
Aimar would also be pushing balls up to Shearer and Eto'o, who have both proved their ability to score. :)
Attackers-
Good luck on getting your solo striker past Maldini, Puyol, and Carra. Even if you've got Totti knocking balls to him, there is Gravesen and Marquez to step up and take Totti out. Plus Cassano has lost form. He's too hot headed and with defenders on him all the time, he'd eventually freak and get carded.
Eto'o and Shearer, both have proved that they are able to score goals. Eto'o scoring more than 20 goals this season. Shearer scoring 19 goals for Newcastle this season. They are both deadly up top. Both can dribble, pass, and shoot from outside the 18.
Oh, I've seen both track back plenty of times. Robinho isn't selfish, for Santos he goes back plenty. I've seen Ronaldinho drop back to help out the defense as well for Barca. He'll pick up the ball and run it the full field.
Colt Python
07-06-2005, 21:45
I'm not playing a five man midfield, Totti is playing just behind Cassano.
And do you honestly believe the "Inhos" would do a wingbacks job? Seriously man c'mon.
Colt Python
07-06-2005, 21:47
HP you know nothing about football mate, those comparison you made up prove it. You're basing you winning on what your players can do and your opinion on them. Clearly you aren't taking into account that you are being completely shagged down the wings and have a poor central midfield. And once Robinho and Ronaldinho don't track back and your 3 man defense is pulled apart you'll be right fucked.
Schweinsteiger and Ze Roberto are going to have a field day up against... eh... no one.
Exactly what I thought as soon as I saw HP's team- no protection down the wings. If Colt's team focuses on attacking down the wings then he should have no problem.
I think HP's attack is very creative, will produce some good football and create chances. But Keane will nail all of those three as soon as they get on the ball, I'd dread to think what would happen to poor little Robinho. I think Samuel's strength and height would outdo Shearer's, and Samuel's lack of pace would not get exposed if he stays on Shearer all the time. Eto'o's pace on the other hand may be a problem, but if the defence drops deep then through balls will roll through to Frey. The only problem with that is that the midfield would have time, but if Ballack and Keane can provide enough cover then that will be fine.
And come on Colt, just calm down.
Highway Penguin
07-06-2005, 22:36
Jesus christ Colt, what the fucks wrong with you?
It's a fucking Fantasy League. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I think my players are over all better than yours.
Are you serious, half of what I said went for your players as well. Notice, I admitted that I like Frey more than Toldo. I said that Ballack would probably control the midfield better than Marquez. Cafu and Lahm. Relax dude. I simply think that my team is overall better.
Oh, if we take a poll, I'm sure Ronaldinho and Robinho would get more votes than Schweinsteiger and Ze for the better players.
When did I saw I wouldn't have problems on the wings, I said that Schweinsteiger and Ze wouldn't just walk down the lines, Ronaldinho and Robinho aren't attack minded completely, they track back.
I hate having to discuss crap with people who freak on a dime.
Itachi-san
07-06-2005, 23:00
Sorry to say this Colt, but your defense is not good enough to stop Ronaldinho, Robinho, Eto'o, Shearer, and Aimar.
Vote goes to HP.
Colt Python
07-06-2005, 23:05
Yeah because only those 4 player defend...
Highway Penguin
07-06-2005, 23:12
I've dropped it Colt and co.
Cafu, Lahm, Ze and Schweinstegeir (I can never recall his name and how to spell it) would exploit the Inho's. My knowledge of Kovac and Schweinstegeir isnt' too great, but I do know that Wein is a good winger. Anyways, good match.
Pinguin for me.......great team
i dun think u should use a 3 man defense HP , why dun you put marquez as a central defender , that will be better
i dun think u should use a 3 man defense HP , why dun you put marquez as a central defender , that will be better
There would be a really big gap between attack and the backline then, since HP has offensive players like Eto'o, Shearer, Aimar, Ronaldinho and Robinho. With only Gravesen between them and the central defence, it'll be hard to link them up. Gravesen is a good defensive midfielder but he can't really pass excellently.
Preki-USA
08-06-2005, 14:28
HP will just out score you colt, it'll will certainly be a high scoring affair tho.
from what i see putting grav behind marquez is not a good idea , they should switch making the formation better . the midfield is too attacking minded , i have seen ronaldinho track back but he is not good at defending and so is robinho , but the defensive midfielder can handle that with grav and marquez , but just look at it this way , all of them are able to hold hp's 5 attackers ? if hp is able to get past them with robinho and ronaldinho and eto'o will he be able to get past kovac , samuel, lahm and cafu or even keane ? colt has a better defence , his attacking is really good .and for hp playing 3 man defence is suicide againts totti , ze and ballack
Ronaldo 9
09-06-2005, 19:52
Another 1-1
Ronaldinho 10' (a free kick)
Totti 11' (replied to dinho with a screamer)
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