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The fro doesn't really help him either.
Our abandoned game with Atalanta from November 11 will be replayed behind closed doors. Atalanta's Curva Nord is closed until March.
I doubt you'll see Ronaldo playing anytime soon.
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Fat bastard!
if look at the other pictures from the game he is not so fat...
mufcsean
21-11-2007, 17:02
Yes but if you look at those, he is fat
wrigh2uk
21-11-2007, 18:13
He looks retarded in the first pic, eww
Ronaldo would look good in an afro.
Was that him?
I can't believe he become that fat.
Ronaldo would look good in an afro.
What does he have now? :erm:
He looks like a baby.
A fat one.
here is the link to the game i dont think he is fat, but you can see for yourself http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=YFqSzsoit5k
Stella Artois
22-11-2007, 13:18
here is the link to the game i dont think he is fat, but you can see for yourself http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=YFqSzsoit5k
You being serious?
mufcsean
22-11-2007, 13:20
Idiot, how can you think he is not fat
hes not fat,sure hes back to his old weight at inter
Idiot, how can you think he is not fat
Because i dont think he is fat and and if he is so fat why is he playing for one of the best teams in the world??? Fat people dont play at the highest level...or am i missing something. Fat people dont Score 7 goals in 14 games.
mufcsean
24-11-2007, 00:18
Rooney & Lampard are two prime examples, both are rather chubby and both have excellent scoring records for their clubs
then call Rooney and Lampard fat too instead chuppy...and by the way what have Rooney and Lampard done in football if you compare to Ronaldo....But i think you and me have very different idea of fat people:)
mufcsean
24-11-2007, 00:49
Obviously i'm not saying Ronaldo is obese but he isn't slim, in fact he is not anywhere near average weight for somebody of his size, there for, HE IS FAT
I think the term "over-weight" would be better suited to describe Ronaldo. Fuck, if he can still do a job then fuck it.
"If I return to Italy the only team which I can go to is Milan"
I've always loved this guy.
I've always loved this guy.
Looks like he's going this summer. I'm a huge fan but I think he's always had his heart set on returning home. I'd wish him all the best of luck if,more a matter of when, he leaves.
Lahm will do us nicely though :smug:
Looks like he's going this summer. I'm a huge fan but I think he's always had his heart set on returning home. I'd wish him all the best of luck if,more a matter of when, he leaves.
Lahm will do us nicely though :smug:
After last night's performance, i wouldn't mind that much.
He's great defensively but i'd prefer someone more attack minded, like that cunt, Alves. Even Cicinho would fit in nicely.
I'd prefer it if we kept him and signed someone with more offensive capabilities, to substitute him if the need arose.
Lahm seems balanced enough though.
LarssonIsGhod
28-11-2007, 09:07
I know this has probably been said a millions time, but what was ronaldo thinking with that afro!!!!!
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LarssonIsGhod
30-11-2007, 09:18
So any of the ac milan lads happy to settle for a draw with us so we can both get through :D ?
So any of the ac milan lads happy to settle for a draw with us so we can both get through :D ?
Nope. We should be going for the win as I don't trust Celtic not to try and win the group. Plus, Donati needs his legs broken.
LarssonIsGhod
30-11-2007, 09:50
Fair Enough, don't think i would trust another team to stick to a draw either. Why, whats up with Mo Mo Masimo?
mufcsean
30-11-2007, 11:26
Big game tomorrow, Juve away right?
Big game tomorrow, Juve away right?
We're at home. Ronaldo is almost certainly out and I'm highly doubtful that Inzaghi is fit. Pato can't come soon enough - and he's going to need to have a monumental impact.
mufcsean
30-11-2007, 11:53
It's a lot of pressure on this young lads shoulder's, i can see it being a draw on Saturday, am i right in saying Milan are the only team in Serie A yet to win at their own ground?
It's a lot of pressure on this young lads shoulder's, i can see it being a draw on Saturday, am i right in saying Milan are the only team in Serie A yet to win at their own ground?
Yes :(
mufcsean
30-11-2007, 12:05
Hopefully Pirlo will score another screamer, he scored 2 brilliant goals this week
Meyyappan
30-11-2007, 13:22
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What is this,is it a clip you are trying to post?
mufcsean
30-11-2007, 13:27
Yes it is this
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Our squad for the Club World Cup:
Dida, Kalac, Fiori; Cafu, Maldini, Kaladze, Nesta, Simic, Jankulovski, Bonera, Serginho, Oddo; Emerson, Gattuso, Seedorf, Gourcuff, Pirlo, Ambrosini, Brocchi, Kaka; Inzaghi, Gilardino, Ronaldo
Big shots. :naughty:
I'm just glad we didn't include Favalli :huh:
I'm just glad we didn't include Favalli :huh:
But it could prove to be a costly mistake.
I'm just glad we didn't include Favalli :huh:
:huh:
Every time I think of Favalli, I also think of Pancaro for some odd reason.:mellow:
Original?
01-12-2007, 00:13
Hopefully Pirlo will score another screamer, he scored 2 brilliant goals this week
Hopefully not... though we're on scoring form if the performance against Palermo is anything to go by. I hope Del Piero bags a hat-trick as I know it will grate on Sweey that little more. ;)
:huh:
Every time I think of Favalli, I also think of Pancaro for some odd reason.:mellow:
Exactly the same as me! I've even confused them in the not too distant past. Of the two I must say I preferred Pancaro. Admittedly we had him at a younger age but I felt he brought something to the team whereas Favalli doesn't.
Hopefully not... though we're on scoring form if the performance against Palermo is anything to go by. I hope Del Piero bags a hat-trick as I know it will grate on Sweey that little more. ;)
:no:
I wonder if any of you have noticed how little I've been talking about the Juventus game - that's because I'm thinking its about as much as I'm going to want to talk about it after tonight.
mufcsean
01-12-2007, 14:22
Nah i reckon it will be a draw, shame it's on not on TV
Exactly the same as me! I've even confused them in the not too distant past. Of the two I must say I preferred Pancaro. Admittedly we had him at a younger age but I felt he brought something to the team whereas Favalli doesn't.
I prefer Pancaro over Favalli too.
mufcsean
01-12-2007, 20:42
0-0 half time, anybody watching the game?
Original?
01-12-2007, 20:51
0-0 half time, anybody watching the game?
I can't get any of my streams to work...
Neither IE nor Firefox believe I've installed SopCast on Vista when I so clearly have so I'm not watching it either.
Eight minutes plus stoppages to go: 0-0, Trezeguet hit the post in the first half and both Legrottaglie and Chiellini have been booked for Juventus.
mufcsean
01-12-2007, 21:14
Yeah it says i haven't installed Sopcast player on Firefox but it works on IE :erm:
KainLegacy
01-12-2007, 22:38
Lol,its almost on every television,it was watched by 1 billion people...
I watched the whole match and I cant say I am dissapointed,its a deserved result(I mean the draw,not that there are no goals).Oddo was winning everything in the air,which is good to notice,also Zebinha played well.I am pleased,but my prediction for a first home win against Livorno now couldnt happen as the match is delayed...lets hope is the next match at Siro.
Milan face a testing start to 2008 with eight games in a month as they play the fixtures rescheduled for their Club World Cup adventure.
Between January 13 and February 13, the Diavolo face a hectic schedule, which is far from ideal so close to the Champions League last 16 first leg on February 19 or 20.
Milan missed games against Atalanta, Reggina and Livorno due to their trip to Japan and a revised date has been chosen for each fixture.
The Bergamo clash against Atalanta that was abandoned on November 11 will now be played behind closed doors on the evening of January 23.
Three days later, Carlo Ancelotti’s men travel to Udinese before facing Catania in the Coppa Italia.
Reggina-Milan, which was set for this weekend, is now on January 30 and Milan-Livorno is on February 13 – both games are evening kick-offs.
If Milan progress in the Coppa Italia they will play their quarter-final encounters on March 12 and April 16 instead of January 23 and 30 and the semi-final on 7 and 14 May instead of 16 April and 7 May.
The sooner we get knocked out of the Coppa Italia the better.
:ohmy:
That's a lot of games there! Is the Coppa Italia equivalent to the Carling Cup in the Premier SHIP!?
We only have one domestic cup competition (excluding the Serie C Cup :rolleyes:), unlike in England and France where there are two. To that end, its the equivalent of the FA Cup but the big clubs pay absolutely no attention to it and regularly field squad players who haven't played much.
For example, we would use the likes of Kalac, Favalli, Cafu, Darmian, Digao, Emerson, Brocchi, Gourcuff and Aubameyang.
Aubameyang...Cunt should do something for the club.
Failure to win the Club World Cup would continue our sorry spiral this season. Urawa Red Diamonds tomorrow....let us see if we are able to break them down.
Potential CL opponents in the next round: Liverpool, Schalke, Olympiakos, Lyon, Fenerbahce, Arsenal.
Fenerbahce please - on the basis Inter have already played them. I don't want Liverpool, Lyon or Arsenal.
Suazo: Maybe I Should Have Signed For Milan
David Suazo has admitted that if he had signed for Milan in the summer instead of Inter, he would be enjoying much more playing time on the field.
The Honduran hitman was involved in a fierce tug of war between the Milanese clubs in the summer when he left Cagliari.
Initially reports arose that Inter had captured the striker’s signature, only for Milan to announce days later that it was indeed them that had acquired his services.
Eventually the problem was resolved and Suazo signed for the Nerazzurri, however he has found chances hard to come by due to the stunning form of Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Julio Cruz.
"Perhaps if I had stayed with Milan I would have played more, but my word is my word and I would say 'yes' another 100 times to Inter,” Suazo revealed.
“I feel I am improving more and more every day, I was prepared for this competition.”
After a slow start, Suazo has shown signs of improvement recently and he was in excellent form in the Champions League against PSV Eindhoven on Wednesday night.
"I confess that I still feel pressure playing at the San Siro,” the 28-year-old added.
"Against PSV Eindhoven I did an assist for Julio Cruz so erasing the image of me being a selfish striker."
mufcsean
14-12-2007, 17:39
:shocking: If he really said that, that is very controversial
When you read what he actually said, the throwaway comment means nothing. After all, he did quantify everything with this: "but my word is my word and I would say 'yes' another 100 times to Inter".
A brilliant result for us today and congratulations to the entire team on our success. I didn't think we'd be able to find four goals against Boca, nor was I convinced we'd win this tournament despite the emphasis we were putting on it.
Hopefully we can take the confidence from this result directly into the derby next weekend and somehow beat Inter.
New poll going up.
AC Milan captain Paolo Maldini has revealed he will retire at the end of the season.
Iconic defender Maldini, 39, made the announcement after Milan's 4-2 victory against Boca Juniors in the Fifa Club World Cup final in Japan on Sunday.
"Today I truly feel satisfied with what I have achieved," said the former Italy star, who earlier this year won his fifth Champions League title.
"In June I will absolutely retire without any regrets."
Since making his league debut in 1985, Maldini has enjoyed a host of honours with Milan, including two Intercontinental Cups (the forerunner of the Club World Cup), four European SuperCups and seven Serie A titles.
He has been feted as one of the greatest defenders in the history of the game.
But lifting the Club World Cup trophy proved to be the icing on the cake for the veteran star, who also played a record 126 games for Italy between 1988 and 2002.
"It's great to have won this trophy because it's difficult to be playing at 39 in a great club like AC Milan," he added.
"Milan has allowed me always the possibility to play for important trophies.
"I have had everything in my football career but I have pain and I struggle. I still have a lot of fun but the pain is beginning to take over."
The only success missing in Maldini's career is an international honour with Italy.
He was on the losing side in the 1994 World Cup final when Brazil won on penalties, and in Euro 2000, when France took the trophy with a 2-1 victory in extra-time.
Best defender of his generation?
Best defender of his generation?2nd best defender I've seen in my lifetime after Sir Franco of Baresi.
mufcsean
16-12-2007, 16:14
Absolutely tremendous defender, best defender of my lifetime without a doubt.
I think Milan will but just the 1 player, probably nobody special aswell
Best defender of his generation?
What's a generation when you go along for like 23 years.:huh:
He sure is one of the best during all of his glorious career.
From the first time I saw him(1988) up till now he has been always one of the best defenders in the world.
He is and has been a role model for lots and lots of players.
FORZA AC MILAN
once again we perform well on big matches due to experience, if only we have the consistency to duplicate the success for season. However, I am still very happy about this championship
I saw some highlights of today's game and Kaka showed his outstanding class.
I saw some highlights of today's game and Kaka showed his outstanding class.
He was phenomenal on the opener, seeing the opportunity to pass to Inzaghi after his own initial shot was blocked. Also had a good run for his own goal and assisted Inzaghi's second. Couldn't have asked for more and certainly sent a message out to Maradona after his comments a few days ago.
Best defender of his generation?
Yes.
I think Milan will get some new blood when possible.
mufcsean
17-12-2007, 00:30
Kaka' showing why he is the best today, terrific performance.
I was watching the Madrid game tonight and they mentioned that there were reports from both Spain and Italy that Madrid are going to offer Sergio Ramos in a straight swap for Kaka
:laugh: i don't think i've heard anything so ridiculous in my life.
For those of us who have voted one, we're right according to Galliani. He claims two new players in January, but one of those is Pato who isn't included in my poll as a new player as he's been training with us since the summer.
Stella Artois
20-12-2007, 20:27
Don't worry Catania are an excellent team.
Stella, nobody cares about the Coppa Italia and the sooner we get knocked out the better ;)
If we did care, we certainly wouldn't have started with this:
Kalac; Cafu, Digao, Simic, Favalli; Serginho, Brocchi, Emerson, Gourcuff; Aubameyang, Paloschi.
Aubameyang and Paloschi :lol:
That group of has-beens and useless players is up against Catania's almost entire first-team of:
Bizzarri; Sardo, Sottil, Stovini, Vargas; Izco, Edusei, Baiocco, Biagianti; Mascara, Spinesi.
Mascara and Spinesi should be raping them.
EDIT: And so far, they are.
Stella Artois
20-12-2007, 20:39
You must care to a degree, I hate watching us lose at anything! I know your team is weaker, but I'd have thought you were capable of getting something, especially at home - regardless of how bad you've been there.
You must care to a degree, I hate watching us lose at anything! I know your team is weaker, but I'd have thought you were capable of getting something, especially at home - regardless of how bad you've been there.
I hate watching us lose but the competition is nothing more than a nuisance to the big clubs in Italy, and especially to us this season as we've got three Serie A games to make up in January. Obviously it'd be nice to win it but to be honest, if we won the Coppa Italia and nothing else all season, I'd be highly embarrassed; even more than if we won nothing.
Stella Artois
20-12-2007, 20:47
Fair enough, I realise it's not held in the highest regard, much like the Carling Cup I guess; still it's always nice to win.
If not other reason than to give your home fans something for once!
mufcsean
20-12-2007, 22:57
Another game without a win at home, albeit in a pointless match
Fucking knew we'd end up with Arsenal. Bollocks to that then.
I just read that Ancelotti would be willing to 'pay from his own pocket' to bring Ronaldinho to Milan, and that a few other politicians would also gladly 'chip in' to pay his exhorbitant price tag. They would also add to that a pot gathered from the fans.
:huh:
Those Italians really do love their football..
Stella Artois
21-12-2007, 16:51
Fucking knew we'd end up with Arsenal. Bollocks to that then.
Why? You've proven you're a very, very good CL team - we're also at home first.
I can't wait personally, it'll be a joy to watch the second leg at the San Siro. It's a truly special place to by plying your football.
Edit: We'll also get a chance to ram Ancelotti's words down his throat.
http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=44&idioma=CAS&idtipusrecurs_PK=7&idnoticia_PK=468948
:lol: He burnt himself with a bag of hot water. He had a tummy upset so went for a home made remedy of a hot water in a bag which broke while on his stomach. No serious burns.
Bless.
I just read that Ancelotti would be willing to 'pay from his own pocket' to bring Ronaldinho to Milan, and that a few other politicians would also gladly 'chip in' to pay his exhorbitant price tag. They would also add to that a pot gathered from the fans.
:huh:
Those Italians really do love their football..
:mellow: Thats hilarious tho.
Maybe we can hype up Kaka so much that Arsenal can shit there pants and not show up...just saying.
Lovely news if it is true: Flamengo claim to be at an advanced stage in negotiations for a January Ronaldo move. He's done well when he's featured - the goals last season and hitting the post with a typically Ronaldo shot during a league game this season - but he's not fit often enough which was my entire concern in the first place. He made me start eating my words last season, but I've been right about him in the end.
Its sucks that you where right about him Sweey. I to heard about the Flamengo situation. Whatever you know...
McGregor
28-12-2007, 18:44
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Look who's back ;)
Yes he's training with Rangers over the winter break as he's in Scotland with his wife. He joins up with us prior to our Dubai training camp in January :tongue:
Milan "news":
-One of our representatives supposedly met with Ronaldinho's agent in Brazil :rolleyes:
-Flamengo have openly said they will speak to Ronaldo about a January move before they speak to us and his father says he wants to join them.
-Palermo president Maurizio Zamparini claims he will never allow Amauri or Andrea Barzagli to join us because, when he offered us Luca Toni years back, Adriano Galliani said Toni wasn't good enough to play for us.
McGregor
28-12-2007, 18:49
Yip, he was also at the game on Wednesday as a guest. Just a shame it is not permanent although I still believe that day may come.
RINO GATTUSO admits he was delighted to be welcomed back into the Ibrox family after making a sensational return to Rangers.
The AC Milan midfielder was reunited with Walter Smith yesterday after accepting an offer from his former boss to use the facilities at Murray Park.
Gattuso's arrival at Rangers' state-of-the-art training base sent the Glasgow rumour mill into overdrive.
But the Italian World Cup and Champions League winner quickly scotched suggestions he was set to provide the Ibrox faithful with the perfect belated Christmas present.
Gattuso, who was signed by Smith in 1997, is spending the festive period in Scotland with his Glasgow-born wife Monica and has decided to keep himself ticking over during the Serie A winter break with a couple of training sessions.
He said: "Rangers have always been part of my family and it was great to spend a few days training with them and see some old faces.
"Milan don't play again until the end of January so I arranged to spend a couple of days at Murray Park to keep up my fitness. But I'm not coming back. I'm still a Milan player.
"I have always remained friends with Walter and Coisty and when I spoke to them they hadn't changed one little bit.
"I also had a good chat with Ian Durrant and Barry Ferguson, who were at Rangers when I first arrived from Italy.
"I was so impressed with Murray Park as it's the training facility a big club like Rangers deserve."
Gattuso plans to work out with the Rangers first-team squad again today before flying back to Italy ahead of Milan's winter training camp in Dubai tomorrow.
I'm fuming in a way few can comprehend if this turns out to be true:
Teenage wonderkid Alexandre Pato will be eligible to play when Serie A resumes after the winter break, and Ancelotti insists that he will be the only new member of the team.
They need to leave Pato the fuck alone. If he doesn't turn it on for us immediately now he's going to end up leaving the club soon after due to the stupid amount of pressure he's under.
While I'm here, we're supposedly looking at top young talent around Europe (expensive talent I'd like to add) but I'm concerned. Theo Walcott and Denilson of Arsenal were two names mentioned though it is paper talk only. I ask a question I hope Rangers fans see: why are we so backward and slow that we fail to show any sort of interest in Alan Hutton who, whether he turns world class or ends up a wasted talent, is worth taking an £8m gamble on? We could have a superb ten-year replacement for Cafu right there. Day by day I get more fed up with the way we do things to the point that its starting to put me off reading news or comments made by Uncle Fester.
wrathchild_uk
03-01-2008, 20:04
-Palermo president Maurizio Zamparini claims he will never allow Amauri or Andrea Barzagli to join us because, when he offered us Luca Toni years back, Adriano Galliani said Toni wasn't good enough to play for us.
Wonder if he regrets saying that now.. :rolleyes:
I can sort of see why we didn't get him - we went for Gilardino - and to be fair, most including me felt that was the right move. A mistake though.
Zamparini talks a bit too much though, now claiming he's quite happy to sell Amauri to us. I really don't know with Amauri - when Palermo were amazing for a period last season he was virtually unstoppable. He got injured, Palermo got poor, he came back and for me he's not done well since but then Barcelona and Milan don't show serious interest for nothing.
I'd absolutely love to see Barzagli join us this summer even though it seems impossible. It could all go wrong but at least until the start of the season we could hope that maybe we've got an Italian defender to take over from Maldini and eventually Nesta. Knowing our luck he'll be shite if he does join.
Billy Minof
03-01-2008, 20:16
Ye are also interested in Sergio Ramos and apparently have a finacial deal lined up for him to make him your heighest payed player. I cant see him leaving Madrid though unless we win the League and CL this season then he might think he needs a change but the kid is awesome and has a good 10 - 15 years at the top ahead of him.
That has to be inaccruate Minof as making him our highest paid player would put him on a stupid wage (Kaka is already on about 5m euros per season or so). I know we're certainly interested and he's previously turned us down, just think the financial details are off.
Billy Minof
03-01-2008, 20:28
That has to be inaccruate Minof as making him our highest paid player would put him on a stupid wage (Kaka is already on about 5m euros per season or so). I know we're certainly interested and he's previously turned us down, just think the financial details are off.
ATM he is on about 90,000 a week at Madrid and Milan are said to up that significantly to tempt him from Madrid. The so called truce between the clubs Milans and Madrids (in bully tactics) to get players is still running but they(milan) are hoping that Ramos pushes for the move himself. As I said though I cannot see him leaving us.
Billy Minof
04-01-2008, 12:36
Thats his buy out clause if you are still interested.;)
Sergio Ramos Would Cost Milan €180m
Real Madrid will only allow Sergio Ramos to leave the club if they a bid that matches the player's astronomical buy-out clause as AC Milan are reported to be interested.
The Spanish outfit are reported to have responded to the speculation by stating that only an offer that meets the €180m specified in his buy-out clause will suffice.
Meyyappan
04-01-2008, 14:46
I'm fuming in a way few can comprehend if this turns out to be true:
They need to leave Pato the fuck alone. If he doesn't turn it on for us immediately now he's going to end up leaving the club soon after due to the stupid amount of pressure he's under.
While I'm here, we're supposedly looking at top young talent around Europe (expensive talent I'd like to add) but I'm concerned. Theo Walcott and Denilson of Arsenal were two names mentioned though it is paper talk only. I ask a question I hope Rangers fans see: why are we so backward and slow that we fail to show any sort of interest in Alan Hutton who, whether he turns world class or ends up a wasted talent, is worth taking an £8m gamble on? We could have a superb ten-year replacement for Cafu right there. Day by day I get more fed up with the way we do things to the point that its starting to put me off reading news or comments made by Uncle Fester.
Wow,is that guy really that good to replace the legendary cafu,also what about your oddo or someone like that?
Oddo is 31 and only has two years left in him at the top level.
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Look who's back ;)
No one is wearing shin-pads :mellow:
Cannon ball
04-01-2008, 15:26
No one is wearing shin-pads :mellow:
They breed them tough, up north.
Sweey, how about a new poll? Will Milan finish 4th? Or Will Pato live up to the hype?
Feel free to make up your own one, they're just ideas I thought of.
McGregor
05-01-2008, 00:13
I'm fuming in a way few can comprehend if this turns out to be true:
They need to leave Pato the fuck alone. If he doesn't turn it on for us immediately now he's going to end up leaving the club soon after due to the stupid amount of pressure he's under.
While I'm here, we're supposedly looking at top young talent around Europe (expensive talent I'd like to add) but I'm concerned. Theo Walcott and Denilson of Arsenal were two names mentioned though it is paper talk only. I ask a question I hope Rangers fans see: why are we so backward and slow that we fail to show any sort of interest in Alan Hutton who, whether he turns world class or ends up a wasted talent, is worth taking an £8m gamble on? We could have a superb ten-year replacement for Cafu right there. Day by day I get more fed up with the way we do things to the point that its starting to put me off reading news or comments made by Uncle Fester.
It is a tricky situation. Some members may be aware that I had a season ticket last year, (I only gave it up this year due to work) and I know for a fact that I was among the vast majority of fans who were calling for Alan to leave due to his poor performances and the mere fact he was not living up to earlier performance prior to breaking his leg. Although to be fair I like many others singled him out unduly it can be said, and made him a scapegoat if you will. However since Paul Le Guen has been shown the door and Walter has returned he has came on leaps and bounds. He really has shown his quality and proved what an asset he has been.
£8/9 million is a lot of money nowadays, well especially for a club like Rangers but I'm still debating whether or not he is actually worth it. For me it would be a big gamble. You need to ask yourself is he mature enough and smart enough to move away from the surroundings where he has spend all his life? His he going to be consistent enough? Can he adapt and play to a higher level each week? etc
Yet again there is a gamble with every player I suppose and the only way to find out is to take it.
I mean, he is obviously doing something right if we are even having this discussion.
And quality wing backs are sought after...
Just got this in my inbox. Think they're enjoying their time in Dubai ;)
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6050/99937606gq0.jpg
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/220/12238931bg6.jpg
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/5198/29063726ru6.jpg
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/879/73568889di2.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4151/33343574mu3.jpg
:laugh:
Doesn't that picture of Dida (the fourth photo) look like the sort of thing that ends up on Crimewatch?
Sweey, how about a new poll? Will Milan finish 4th? Or Will Pato live up to the hype?
Feel free to make up your own one, they're just ideas I thought of.
New poll up :)
Previous poll:
How many players do you think we'll actually buy in January?
None - Galliani will say the Club World Cup success proves we don't need any (because he's a twat) 1 (adriancgcg)
One 8 (Bammers05, Don Sweey, Dragonfly, Haribo, KainLegacy, mufcsean, pastor399, wan109)
Two 3 (kake222, Meyyappan, yaohan)
Three or more 2 (beetwee, Calzone)
We're currently on none :huh:
Meyyappan
07-01-2008, 13:35
Nasri,moutinho,huntelaar,diarr a,drogba,benzema,richards so many possible signings for you guys..............
Nasri,moutinho,huntelaar,diarr a,drogba,benzema,richards so many possible signings for you guys..............
You can't just buy players that will not fit in outside of Football Manager. Why buy Nasri when Seedorf is already there, and will be for the coming years knowing the Milan policy, why buy Moutinho when there's Pirlo, Gattuso, Ambrosini etc. playing in similar positions? Milan is hardly known for buying young players.
I have no real grasp of how many money Milan has available for transfers, but none of the clubs these players play for will be welcoming a transfer with open arms.
Meyyappan
07-01-2008, 13:47
You can't just buy players that will not fit in outside of Football Manager. Why buy Nasri when Seedorf is already there, and will be for the coming years knowing the Milan policy, why buy Moutinho when there's Pirlo, Gattuso, Ambrosini etc. playing in similar positions? Milan is hardly known for buying young players.
I have no real grasp of how many money Milan has available for transfers, but none of the clubs these players play for will be welcoming a transfer with open arms.
Diarra,drogba,huntelar and moutinho all would be willing to come.........
Moutinho is not ready to play for Juventus, Inter or Milan. Diarra wouldn't get in the team considering we have Pirlo, Gattuso and Ambrosini. Huntelaar is possible if the Gilardino-Frey swap we've supposedly proposed has any truth in it. That said, Drogba is the one Ancelotti wants - but Berlusconi wants Ronaldinho.
Frey, Barzagli and Zaccardo remain my first three choices of replacements but getting two players from Maurizio Zamparini (Palermo president) will cost us a ludicrous amount of money. That said, Barzagli will end up at Juventus, the big three aren't sure about Zaccardo (he'd struggle in European competitions) and there's also the whole Amauri situation. Milan and Juventus would rather go for Barzagli and Amauri if they're going in for two Palermo players.
It seems to be at the moment, that if you wanna buy a class player you have to bring at least like 15.000.000 euro.
mufcsean
07-01-2008, 20:38
Meyappan you moron, anyway i think Milan will finish Seventh to tenth
Drogba over Ronaldinho for me.
I think Milan will finish sixth.
A meaningless 2-0 win over UAE with Gilardino, the king of unnecessary goals, getting both. I'll be more imprssed if he starts scoring regularly in competitive games.
FutebolArte
08-01-2008, 17:33
Just got this in my inbox. Think they're enjoying their time in Dubai ;)
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6050/99937606gq0.jpg
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/220/12238931bg6.jpg
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/5198/29063726ru6.jpg
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/879/73568889di2.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4151/33343574mu3.jpg
:laugh:
My friend took those pics.. she's and Emirates hostess...
Well Pato didn't get the two he said he would get, but he did score on his debut.
First win at home in the league?
I see Ronaldo has started his shifty tricks on having an immense second half of the season, to secure a contract :shifty:
AgentZero
13-01-2008, 22:29
this Digao...hes Kaka's younger brother am i not correct?
yes correct.
Pato did great for his debut, his first half isn't that great, but the second half was brilliant.
Pato is going to be good, he has the qualities that Milan were mising in their attacking line, pace. And if Ronaldo stays fit, Milan should have agood second half of the season.
You know, I think ronaldo is better passer than Kaka by far, he might even be a better attacking midfielder / playmaker than Kaka ever will be even as of now.
Ronaldo was brilliant today. Considering we are still keeping Inzaghi, I don't see why we will ever let go of Ronaldo. We might buy another striker just because ronaldo and inzaghi are so injury prone, but I wouldn't sell ronaldo to flamengo even if he can only play half a season per year.
Those two passes that put Pato in front of the keeper twice, were brilliant. Defense looked somewhat shabby, might have been just me. Pato did very well, this is just one good performance though so we shouldn't put too much pressure on him. Milan did that already anyway.
Is it me or does Kaka look somewhat aloof to what happens around him?
Billy Minof
14-01-2008, 13:01
Big Ron is the man and always will be, one of the greatest ever if only he didnt get his knee fucked up. :(
Anyway, good to see him back and ye should keep him, he is easily your best striker and the best in Italy if he can stay injury free, will be a big bonus for the CL.
Dragonfly
14-01-2008, 13:05
Anyway, good to see him back and ye should keep him, he is easily your best striker and the best in Italy if he can stay injury free, will be a big bonus for the CL.
:crymore:
Stella Artois
14-01-2008, 16:16
So for those of you who saw Pato, is Ancelotti a smart man for betting on him as the Ballon D'or winner for 2008? :laugh:
So for those of you who saw Pato, is Ancelotti a smart man for betting on him as the Ballon D'or winner for 2008? :laugh:
One can only assume that isn't from a reliable source, be it Galliani saying things that aren't true in order to create further hype or a website talking crap.
I was out all night and haven't been home yet so I didn't watch the game nor have I seen the goals or any form of highlights. That said, it appears Pato did extremely well. All we can hope for is that he continues to impress and provide a different sort of threat to opposition defenders. As well as it has gone, we may be back to square one in a week so until there's a serious turnaround in our form and performances - a run of five or six positive results and pushing up the table - I'm not getting excited. It was seemingly an excellent attacking performance but we've had away wins like this only to end up losing at home the following week.
Stella Artois
14-01-2008, 16:43
It's been on a number of fairly reliable websites, but you could be right as they quote Galliani most of the time.
It'll be interesting to see if he starts when we play you lot. I can't wait.
It's been on a number of fairly reliable websites, but you could be right as they quote Galliani most of the time.
It'll be interesting to see if he starts when we play you lot. I can't wait.
I'm still dreading it. Teams with cunning tacticians often make us pay.
I have no idea as yet whether we'll go with our classic "solid" 4-3-2-1 European formation against you (usually headed by Inzaghi but how can we leave our Ronaldo?) or now go 4-1-2-1-2 (with Pato or Inzaghi playing alongside Ronaldo depending on whether Pato continues to impress or not). As you can see, Gilardino doesn't get much of a look-in despite his greater physical presence, something some people will feel we might need against your defence.
Stella Artois
14-01-2008, 17:18
I'm still dreading it. Teams with cunning tacticians often make us pay.
I have no idea as yet whether we'll go with our classic "solid" 4-3-2-1 European formation against you (usually headed by Inzaghi but how can we leave our Ronaldo?) or now go 4-1-2-1-2 (with Pato or Inzaghi playing alongside Ronaldo depending on whether Pato continues to impress or not). As you can see, Gilardino doesn't get much of a look-in despite his greater physical presence, something some people will feel we might need against your defence.
You've got little to worry about then as Wenger is a piss-poor tactician. We play his way, and his way only. :laugh:
A physical presence wouldn't actually reap much as it's height that we fail to deal with properly. As brilliant as Toure and Gallas are, they're both small center-backs and we tend to struggle with set-pieces.
Hopefully Van Persie will be back, but I wouldn't be surprised to see us line up 4-5-1.
I personally cannot wait till the second leg. It's just a shame I can't go as 2nd leg games away at places like the San Siro is what European football is all about.
sooner we get kicked out of italian cup the better, and we did get kicked out, very nice! now we concentrate on the real stuff.
That's what I thought yaohan ( I prefer Johan ;) ), the sooner out the better. Apparently though that's what the players thought, if you lose 4-2 at NAC after a fantastic performance against AZ then you don't deserve to be in any cup. I could care less about the cup but the performance was terrible.
Yes Berlusconi, Galliani and Ancelotti. Pato's arrival is going to transform us isn't it? And it has. We can now win at home but are shit away.
Fucking excellent.
Milan are on high alert after a firearm bullet was sent to their headquarters in Via Turati in the centre of the city.
According to reports in Italy an envelope was sent to the club’s offices and it contained a bullet. The envelope also contained a note with a message for president Silvio Berlusconi, director Adriano Galliani and coach Carlo Ancelotti.
The message was written in upper case and reads:
“For the negative results of the team and for the wrong choices.”
It is expected that the message referred to the Rossoneri’s abysmal season so far and to various players under-performing.
Ancelotti’s men have not had the best of seasons by any means and it seems as if the fans have run out of patience with the coach.
Everyone had thought the Rossoneri had rediscovered themselves after a good start to the second half of the season, but they showed their weaknesses once again by losing to Atalanta 2-1 on Wednesday night.
This is not the first time Milan’s fans have turned against their club. In 1996 fans in the San Siro pelted the players off the pitch with rotten fruits mid-way through the season after a poor campaign.
The club have so far remained silent over the incident and have yet to issue a statement.
It’s not uncommon for fans to show their discontent by reacting in petulant ways in Serie A. Several years ago Lazio fans stormed the club’s head office in Rome when they sold Alessandro Nesta to Milan. A couple of years ago Inter fans outrageously threw a moped from one of the turnstiles in San Siro
:shocking:
Even better:
MILAN, Italy (AP) — Inter Milan was the second Italian soccer team in two days to receive a threatening letter with bullets inside the envelope.
The unsigned letter arrived Friday, telling Inter chairman Massimo Moratti to be "very, very careful," the ANSA news agency reported. The letter also insulted and threatened Inter coach Roberto Mancini and striker Zlatan Ibrahimovic, who is tied for the league lead with 13 goals.
Police confirmed the existence of the letter but would not discuss the content. Inter, which is in first place in Serie A, declined to comment.
A similar unsigned letter arrived at the offices of AC Milan on Thursday in an envelope that contained a bullet. The letter threatened Milan president Silvio Berlusconi - the former Italian premier who leads Italy's center-right opposition - as well as club vice president Adriano Galliani and coach Carlo Ancelotti. The team said it was not the first time such a threat had been received.
Pierluigi Collina, the former Italian referee who now selects and trains game officials, has had a security detail since November. He reportedly received a threatening letter late last year that Italian officials deemed serious.
Holy shit pato should of finished that chance in the 30th.
Two goals by Pato, not a bad start. Also, Inter drew, which is always a good thing.
mufcsean
27-01-2008, 16:24
PAto certainly living up to the hype so far
Haha, Gilardino is fucking pissed right off.
FIORENTINA: Frey; Ujfalusi, Kroldrup, Gamberini, Pasqual; Kuzmanovic, Jorgensen, Montolivo; Santana, Pazzini, Mutu.
MILAN: Kalac; Oddo, Nesta, Kaladze, Maldini; Brocchi, Pirlo, Ambrosini; Seedorf, Kakà; Gilardino.
*sighs*
Santana to rape Maldini ftw :(
2' Pazzini gets the ball in the area but his shot on the turn lacks power and Kalac easily gets down to his left to take control of the ball.
6' Nice interplay from Fiorentina sees Pazzini's shot from the edge of the area blocked. Corner.
7' Milan break from Fiorentina's corner. Kaka sends the ball into the box from the left and it is controlled by Gilardino who puts it back across the face. Pasqual hits his own post as he tries to clear the ball and the follow-up shot is blocked. Milan win a corner but it comes to nothing.
11' Santana runs at Maldini and sends a cross in which Mutu heads directly at Kalac.
12' Pasqual wastes a great chance to put in a useful cross.
14' Seedorf sends a ball over the Fiorentina defence....to absolutely nobody.
15' Santana flicks the ball out wide for Kuzmanovic whose cross with the outside of his foot is met by the head of ? who hits the post. On the follow-up, Mutu heads toward goal but Kalac makes a great save.
17' Seedorf sends a left-foot shot from outside the area well over.
20' Brocchi and Gilardino get in each other's way on an Oddo cross and Gamberini deflects the shot for a corner which comes to nothing.
24' Pazzini lays the ball off with his head and Santana hits a low shot from 20 yards which deflects off a Milan defender for a corner.
26' Oddo booked for flying in on Mutu from behind. The free-kick is dangerously whipped in by the impressive Santana but evades all of his team-mates who made runs to the near post.
27' A dangerous cross from Oddo is headed out for a corner by Gamberini.
28' Jorgensen clears the ball for another corner. Ambrosini is penalised for high feet when attempting an overhead kick and Fiorentina win a free-kick.
31' Oddo plays the ball forward low and Kaka runs beyond Gilardino to collect the passl. He over-runs it and though he has time to check back and shoot, Gilardino steps up and sends a low shot wide.
33' Fiorentina win a free-kick in a dangerous position when Kaladze fouls Pazzini as they challenge for an aerial ball.
34' Mutu sends the free-kick straight into the wall and Montolivo sends in a good cross from the left which Santana isn't too far away from connecting with.
35' Maldini gives the ball away to Pazzini who plays Mutu in down the right. The cross is intercepted by Kalac.
36' Mutu's shot from outside the area is deflected wide by Ambrosini for a corner. Seedorf heads the dangerous corner away and Fioentina eventually lose possession.
37' Gilardino wastes a half-chance. The ball is played across to him on the edge of the area with no defenders directly in-front of him and he slices his shot harmlessly wide.
39' Oddo makes a mistake giving the ball away and Milan are under pressure. Montolivo dribbles to the area and plays it to Mutu, who crosses low first time into the area for Pazzini but Kaladze slides in to block the shot. Fiorentina manage to engineer another cross and Nesta has to head the ball away.
40' Pazzini controls a long ball on his chest, holds off Nesta and sends his shot just over the bar.
41' Maldini and Seedorf play make four one-touch passes to one another before Maldini crosses the ball in and Gilardino just fails to connect.
42' Milan break and Kaka plays the ball through to an offside Gilardino who is booked for complaining to the referee and is now suspended for next week's match against Siena.
43' Jorgensen uses some skill to take the ball through Milan's struggling midfield and lays it to Kuzmanovic who switches it onto his left foot but sends his 25-yard shot high and wide.
45' +1 Milan break with Seedorf who plays Kaka in on the left. He evades a challenge as he enters the penalty area but sees his low shot saved by Frey.
Half-time: 0-0
Seedorf looks dire and Kaka below-par although the latter has done well on the handful of occasions he's had possession. Seedorf has played in three different positions in a vain attempt to make a difference but isn't working to close down space or get the ball back leaving Pirlo and Ambrosini struggling to contain Fiorentina's midfield.
47' Ujfalusi plays Santana in behind Maldini and the first time cross is dropped by Kalac but he recovers quickly.
Ujfalusi advances and crosses low for Pazzini but Nesta blocks and clears the ball to the edge of the area. Fiorentina are judged offside as the ball is put back in.
48' Kaka takes a pass in his stride and bursts into the right-hand side of the area but cannot cross to Gilardino due to excellent covering from Gamberini.
49' Nesta loses the ball to Mutu and tries to pull him down but fails. As Mutu is about to enter the area, Kaladze comes across and Nesta takes the opportunity to pull him down, getting only a yellow card as he wasn't the last man.
50' The free-kick deflects off the wall and out for a corner. The ball is cleared and Santana crosses in with Kalac again dropping the cross as he tries to take it but he again recovers.
52' Desperate defending from Milan. A low cross into the area is struck toward goal by Pasqual. The ball is deflected almost into the path of Pazzini but ends up in the left-back position with Maldini who tries to dribble out of defence but is tackled leaving Santana to collect a pass and take his time to cross into the area. The defence somehow clear the ball.
54' Nesta hurries his header and Fiorentina reclaim possession in midfield. Mutu is played through on the left side of the area, checks back and takes his time before sending a curling cross towards Pazzini who just fails to make contact as Kalac comes out to intercept the ball.
58' Santana breaks down the wing leaving Maldini in his wake but his low cross is turned out for a corner by Nesta. Milan diffuse the attack.
60' Ujfalusi comes forward in a 4 v 3 in Fiorentina's favour but instead of sliding the ball into the unmarked Santana's path in the right wing area, he shoots and sees the ball go far over the bar.
65' Mutu plays a free-kick down the left to the completely unmarked Pasqual but his cross is poor and Ujfalusi fails to keep it in.
66' Substitution: Pato replaces an unhappy Seedorf who walks off the nearest edge of the pitch.
68' Kaka plays in Pato on the break but he over-runs the ball and Fiorentina win a goal-kick.
70' Montolivo breaks through central midfield, holds off Brocchi and lays the ball to Ujfalusi whose shot is blocked. Santana sends in a cross but overhits it, missing the unmarked Pazzini and Mutu.
Kaka dribbles past three defenders but sends his shot wide.
71' Santana sends in a deep cross which Mutu connects with on the volley but Kalac makes a superb save at his near post. Corner to Fiorentina.
Substitution: Emerson replaces Brocchi
72' The corner is played short to the unmarked Montolivo who is closed down by Pato and wins another corner which is taken easily by Kalac.
74' Emerson uses some skill to dribble past two opponents but sees his curling left foot shot go over the bar.
76' Pato just fails to connect with a dangerous Oddo cross and Fiorentina clear.
77' GOAL! Milan break with Pirlo playing a ball over the defence into a right wing area for Kaka who sends a first-touch cross into the middle to Pato. The 18-year-old eventually manages to control the ball and beats Frey with a shot into the top corner.
Substitution: Vieri replaces Montolivo
80' Kroldrup makes a last-ditch tackle as Pato, in space, prepares to shoot from 15 yards.
81' Substitution: Favalli for Kaka
Substitution: Gobbi for Jorgensen
84' Pirlo sends a long-range free-kick harmlessly over.
86' Pirlo is booked for lightly challenging Mutu from behind, a bit of play-acting aiding Fiorentina's cause on this occasion. A free-kick just outside the D.
87' Mutu drives the free-kick into the wall.
88' Pato down in agony clutching his left ankle after going over on it when trying to make a tackle. Stretchered off writhing in pain.
90' Five minutes of injury time will be played, Milan now down to ten with Pato being stretchered down the tunnel and all three substitutions having already been made.
90' +4 Gobbi wins a corner after being crowded out by three players in the area.
90' +5 Fiorentina again play a short corner and again the player receiving the ball is completely unmarked. The ball is chipped into the area but the header is magnificently saved and held by Kalac.
The referee blows for full-time.
Fiorentina 0 AC Milan 1 (Pato 77)
The injury to Pato looks serious.
http://i32.tinypic.com/szg6qp.jpg
That looks bad but you never know, it might just be a slight twist. Some goal though.
mufcsean
04-02-2008, 13:18
Both Kaka and Pato have withdrawn from the Brazil squad that faces Ireland on Wednesday
News out of Italy ahead of tomorrow's diagnosis is that Pato will be out for at least three weeks.
With Inzaghi and Ronaldo both currently injured, Gilardino suspended and Kaka struggling, Alberto Paloschi might get called up as lone striker :|. I'd rather not risk a half-fit Inzaghi or Ronaldo from the start of the game because both Pato and Gattuso look set to miss the first leg of our CL clash with Arsenal in London. Not good.
I bet you wouldn't mind that dirty Mutu in your team right now :shifty:
I bet you wouldn't mind that dirty Mutu in your team right now :shifty:
Not if he brought us victory in our upcoming games ;)
A Braga moment: what's worse....being in mid-table or being just one point ahead of the Boavista squad I've repeatedly termed "rubbish" and "primed for relegation"? :huh:
What a cheap shot. That hurt :(
It was intended as a genuine question. I'm still coming to terms with the fact we scored four goals in one game and then I look at the table and find you've not won in five :no:
I blame our board for replacing Jorge Costa at the first opportunity they had and Manuel Machado for being such a terrible manager. Pompous and arrogant cunt.
somegooner
05-02-2008, 13:50
Fuck Kaka! Reports say that he's out for the season!! That means that when we beat Milan everyone will say that we were lucky that Kaka was injured!! Gattusso and Pato too!!
mufcsean
05-02-2008, 14:02
Fuck Kaka! Reports say that he's out for the season!! That means that when we beat Milan everyone will say that we were lucky that Kaka was injured!! Gattusso and Pato too!!
Haven't seen that anywhere but if it is true that is a major blow for Milan. I did read this however, Essien at Milan, what a midfield they would have.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11854_3100419,00.html
Did you see Essien the other day? That guy is a serious machine. I'm pretty sure he was playing in defence and midfield at the same time :shocking:
mufcsean
05-02-2008, 14:16
Didn't see it but heard he was brilliant. Grabbed a goal aswell didn't he.
Essien = Class player. :cool:
Essien = Class player. :cool:
He's a Chelsea player. :smug:
EDIT: 5000th post!
05/02:
Fuck Kaka! Reports say that he's out for the season!! That means that when we beat Milan everyone will say that we were lucky that Kaka was injured!! Gattusso and Pato too!!
Unsubstantiated rumours at the moment so kindly fuck off. Even if they are confirmed at a later time, your post is pointless as nobody knows if he'll actually need the length of time being suggested by sources I can describe at their best as being dire. Thankfully none of the respectable Arsenal fans have come to this thread talking out of their arse.
The Essien story is nothing but newspaper gossip as far as I'm concerned. We do need a player as true backup to Gattuso though (Ambrosini is different, Brocchi doesn't play in quite the same way).
Alberto Paloschi has been called up for the Siena game as expected. Personally think the misfiring Willy Aubameyang should be too as Paloschi could easily get injured during the match leaving us with Dida to play as lone striker :huh:
10/02:
A valuable win at home to Siena thanks to a great finish with his first touch from our promising youth team striker Alberto Paloschi, his third for us this season. Definitely a goal worth seeing from a player with a good goalscoring record at youth level. Nice to see Ancelotti give a youngster a chance as well...usually he'd ignore Paloschi as he has done with Gourcuff and bring on someone like Emerson.
Kalac, as he did at the start of injury time last week, made a brilliant save in the 88th from a Frick header and had a good game overall though was beaten when Frick hit the post earlier in the second half at 0-0.
Ronaldo did nothing for the 45 minutes he played - including no runs - but that's the nature of the beast I suppose. Bonera was shocking after replacing the presumably injured Nesta at half-time.
So a debut goal for Paloschi.
How was the goal?
Spectacular or just ordinary?
Not ordinary. Inzaghi could never score such a goal and I doubt whether Gilardino could.
http://www.zshare.net/download/738930191e783f
;)
Downloaded the file and extracted it but no video on the goal?
Just the commentary?
You're missing a codec then. I can see the goal fine.
Try this: http://www.goalvideoz.com/leagues/Serie-A/video/2132-ac-milan-ac-siena-alberto-paloschi-goal/
Ah thanks mate.
Nice volley.
Good goal by Paloschi. Also a decent game by Kalac, he made two good saves towards the end. Is Dida injured?
Don't think he is.
He's on the bench.
Good goal by Paloschi. Also a decent game by Kalac, he made two good saves towards the end. Is Dida injured?
He's been fit for a couple of weeks now but as Kalac has, so far, been rather impressive and not made any errors *touches the nearest bit of wood he can find* Ancelotti has continued with him. Will be interesting to see who plays against Arsenal if Kalac is picked for both the midweek game with Livorno and next weekend's clash with Parma, stays fit and continues to impress.
mufcsean
11-02-2008, 01:23
First touch of the game aswell, not too shabby a finish either. Any news on Kaka or Pato?
1' Livorno have the first attack, De Vezze's shot going harmlessly well over the bar after some good work by Tavano down the left.
2' Gourcuff breaks free down the left, crosses to Gilardino who loses the ball but Jankulovski wins it back and wins a corner which comes to nothing.
6' Amelia pushes a long-range Pirlo drive wide for a Milan corner which fails to beat the first man.
8' Tavano hits a shot from the corner of the penalty area but it goes well over.
10' A fantastic slide rule pass from Pirlo puts Gattuso in down the right and his low ball sets Gourcuff up well but Livorno manage to block both his shot and the follow-up from Ambrosini.
12' Tristan is dispossessed and Milan break with decent work from Gourcuff setting up Ambrosini for a cross from the left which goes goalwards, forcing Amelia to palm it away.
16' An excellent reverse pass from Pirlo finds Paloschi in the area but under pressure he is unable to get any power on his shot.
19' Tavano receives the ball from the left after some good work but shoots over on the turn.
20' Marco Amelia is having trouble with his thigh and looks as though he will at least require some medical assistance.
Gourcuff tries to break through in the area but Livorno manage to gain possession but then force Amelia to kick the ball clear, causing him to clutch his thigh again.
Second-choice Livorno goalkeeper Alfonso De Lucia is warming up on the sidelines.
24' Gilardino's snapshot goes over. Amelia appears to be ok again.
25' Ambrosini sends a curling ball into the area which Livorno manage to deflect off their post and out for a corner. The corner is cleared but breaks to Gourcuff whose long range effort goes way over.
31' Milan probe struggling to make an opening and with limited movement in the area before Oddo smartly cuts the ball back to the edge of the area, Pirlo shows he isn't concentrating by losing out and the loose ball falls into the path of Gourcuff whose drive goes just over the bar.
33' Livorno have a free-kick which reaches Tavano at the far post. He easily loses his marker Oddo and sends a drive just over the bar with Ambrosini sliding across his path in an attempt to block any low shot.
34' Pirlo's deep corner is met by the head of Kaladze but the ball just goes over. About time one of our set-pieces was threatening. Will be waiting two weeks for the next one.
35' Livorno break, weakling Pirlo has a chance to win a loose ball played across the pitch but bottles it and a low cross comes in from the right which is just cleared.
37' Gourcuff connects with a Pirlo corner but his shot goes over the bar.
38' Oddo crosses into the six-yard box and finds Ambrosini but his shot is well saved by Amelia. The resulting corner is defended easily.
39' Pirlo's loose pass allows a long-range Livorno shot but it thankfully loses power and is aimed straight at Kalac who touches the ball for the first time in open play.
40' Gilardino unwittingly prevents two unmarked team-mates from receiving a cross as he lays it off to the edge of the area. Pirlo's long-range effort is blocked.
41' Pasquale breaks for Livorno but his chipped ball into the area just evades his team-mate and goes into the grateful arms of Kalac.
44' Pirlo's shot from the edge of the area is punched away by Amelia.
Substitution: Diamanti for Tavano
Half-time: 0-0
49' Is it a hedgehog? Is it an earthquake?! No it's Ronaldo warming up on the sidelines.
50' GOAL! Livorno semi-break down the pitch but remain outnumbered in a 2 v 3. Kaladze's header is loose and falls to Tristan who plays in Pulzetti, the latter striking a left-foot curler into the top corner from the edge of the area.
49' Is it a hedgehog? Is it an earthquake?! No it's Ronaldo warming up on the sidelines.
:laugh:
How's Paloschi doing?
:laugh:
How's Paloschi doing?
Doing lots of running, unlike Gilardino.
54' A poor Pirlo free-kick is easily cleared, Milan try to come back but are unable to get into the penalty area.
56' A promising Milan attack is ruined by Pirlo in Seedorf fashion, slowing the move down completely.
Substitution: Inzaghi for Paloschi
Substitution: Ronaldo for Gilardino
58' PENALTY AND SERIOUS RONALDO INJURY Oddo takes his time and crosses but the ball is handled by Vidigal. Ronaldo goes down clutching the back of his knee the moment he tries to jump for that ball having made no contact with anyone else. He is in absolute agony and crying as he is stretchered off with an ice-pack on his knee.
61' GOAL! Pirlo scores from the penalty.
Ronaldo has been taken down the tunnel.
Substitution: Serginho for Ronaldo
69' Milan have been probing and Bonera cleared a dangerous Livorno cross in the last five minutes. Been side-tracked by the Ronaldo business.
71' Gattuso is booked for a late challenge on Diamanti.
72' Good skill from Diamanti to work himself some room but his shot from the edge of the area goes high and wide.
74' Pirlo's corner finds Gourcuff just inside the area but his attempted chip is always going over.
76' Gourcuff crosses the ball in from the right and finds Inzaghi who peels off his marker and connects with a good header but Amelia makes a brilliant save to prevent Milan taking the lead.
Substitution: Rossini for Tristan
77' Tristan is booked for leaving the pitch slowly.
80' Lots of possession for Milan but Livorno are holding firm.
81' Vidigal goes down with what appears to be a hamstring injury but may in fact be cramp.
83' Vidigal returns to the action but isn't moving as freely as he'd like.
Substitution: Pavan for Vidigal
88' Livorno are happy to sit back and Milan simply can't break them down.
90' Livorno work their way up the pitch and a cross from the left is nearly put into the net by Pulzetti.
Five minutes of injury time.
90' +2 Milan's frustrations are leading to repeated free-kicks for Livorno.
90' +4 Inzaghi called back for a clear offside.
Full-time: AC Milan 1 (Pirlo 61 pen) Livorno 1 (Pulzetti 50)
Ronaldo's injury:
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1781880
You can see Adriano Galliani looking up in the sky and wondering "God, what next?".
You can see Adriano Galliani looking up in the sky and wondering "God, what next?"
What that video doesn't show is Ronaldo's face when he moves his hand. A horrible sight. It looks like the sort of injury which would end his season considering his repeated knee injuries.
It's almost a decade since that final and just a little longer when it all started, yet despite everything since my memories of Ronaldo will still be of a player who raised the bar for all players since Maradona, and one whose genius is yet to have been matched and something that the current generation of players can try to emulate, but never will.
:(
Adammce05
13-02-2008, 22:24
It's a shame really, this could spell the end of Ronaldo. His constant injuries man, it's a shame to see a guy like him, someone I watched in awe as a kid at the Cup, looking now, its gutting.
Couto in the starting eleven? He's like 40 now. How is he doing over there?
13/02:
You have to wonder what goes on in his head in the face of these constant problems. His team-mates at Milan have repeatedly stated they do all they can to stave off his depression by involving him in activities as much as they can. What happens when he leaves Milan if he doesn't retire? I really don't see the boys at Flamengo doing what Kaka does.
16/02:
MILAN: Kalac; Cafu, Nesta, Kaladze, Jankulovski; Gattuso, Emerson, Ambrosini, Serginho; Kakà; Inzaghi
PARMA: Bucci; Zenoni, Couto, Falcone, Castellini; Dessena, Morrone, Cigarini, Pisanu; Reginaldo, Lucarelli
5' Andrea Pisano leads a Parma break down the left but the ball is cut out by Kaladze for a corner.
6' Falcone flicks the ball over at the near post from the corner.
7' Inzaghi turns and shrugs off Falcone but his snapshot from outside the area goes harmlessly wide.
10' Emerson connects with a corner but his header is easily plucked out of the air.
11' Nesta tries to head the ball forward but instead manages to turn it in-field to Pisanu who advances toward the penalty area but sends a 20-yard shot over the bar.
Couto in the starting eleven? He's like 40 now. How is he doing over there?
He's slow but then tends not to come forward much. Isn't too bad for a club of Parma's limited ability.
15' Dessena drives a low cross into the area for Lucarelli but it goes straight to Kalac.
16' The ball breaks to Reginaldo with the Milan defence backing off and as he advances he fails to play in his completely unmarked team-mate down the right wing, instead choosing to shoot and the ball goes over.
17' Kaka skips between two Parma defenders and goes down easily to win Milan a free-kick just outside the area.
18' Kaka's curling free-kick goes over the bar.
21' Kaka is foueld by Morrone and Milan win a free-kick 30 yards out.
22' Serginho curls in the free-kick but it is cleared at the far post by Parma who try and break but lose possession.
Milan soon lose possession and Parma are back on the attack down the left. The ball is played into a central position outside the area and Morrone hits a long range effort which is blocked. Parma work the ball down the right and cross the ball in but Milan just about clear. Parma again take possession and work their way from left to right before Morrone hits a long-range drive which Kalac just tips over.
23' Parma continue to threaten from the corner but are then penalised for a foul by Falcone.
24' Kaka goes within inches of giving Milan the lead, smashing a 25-yard shot just wide of the post.
25' Parma float a 40-yard free-kick into the area, Milan clear it and try to break but lose possession to Reginaldo and Parma manage to find Dessena on the right in space. He crosses and eventually a shot is unleashed straight at Kalac.
26' Free-kick for Parma on the right which is delivered dangerously by Cigarini. It evades almost everyone and as it is put back in, Kalac comes out and claims the ball in the air.
27' Kaladze gets away with a tug on Lucarelli's shirt as both chase an aerial ball. Lucarelli goes down slightly easily and the referee waves play on.
28' Kaka plays a one-two with Ambrosini that comes to absolutely nothing. Ambrosini's role is highly worrying...a defensive midfielder for his entire career and he's playing as a left winger, attacking midfielder...everything other than a defensive midfielder :no:
29' Cafu booked for a very poor challenge on Pisanu. Free-kick to Parma about 23 yards out.
Milan look desperate.
30' The ball is played in and bounces around. Parma claim a handball by Kaladze but the referee says play on and a shot from outside the area is deflected wide for a corner.
31' Kalac is fouled as the corner comes in.
32' Milan somehow see off another Parma attack, Lucarelli unable to work enough space to get a shot away.
35' Parma float a free-kick into the area, Reginaldo flicks it on from 16 yards and Kalac tips it over at full stretch.
Parma's corner is cleared and Nesta has to deflect Castellini's left foot volley. Another corner.
36' Milan win a free-kick for obstruction.
38' Dessena drives a ball into the area and it misses Pisanu, completely unmarked in the centre of the box, somehow fails to make contact with it.
41' Pisanu is booked for continuing to tussle with Emerson after already being penalised for a foul.
Half-time: Parma 0 AC Milan 0
Substitution: Gilardino for Serginho
Substitution: Pirlo for Gattuso
46' Falcone fouls Inzaghi to the side of the penalty area. Free-kick to Milan.
The free-kick is a direct attempt on goal which Bucci is forced to punch clear.
Alberto will save you right at the end again.
16/02:
Alberto will save you right at the end again.
Wouldn't bank on it :|
49' Parma are penalised for some reason just as Lucarelli and Reginaldo are about to descend upon the shaky Milan defence once more.
52' Milan hold firm against a Parma attack and eventually break. Inzaghi is unable to pass the ball off slowing down the attack which eventually ends when Pirlo plays a slide ball through toward Kaka but the Brazilian is unable to control it.
56' Ambrosini gets the ball into the box for Inzaghi with his back to goal but he is unable to turn his marker and the ball goes out for a goal kick.
57' Inzaghi gets the ball with his back to goal after a flick-on from Gilardino but his shot on the turn goes over the bar.
60' Inzaghi wins a corner after some good work down the left.
The corner is cleared by Parma and Kaladze plays it to Kaka and he floats in a ball which Inzaghi just fails to direct towards goal.
64' Substitution: Budan for Lucarelli
Substitution: Gasbarroni for Reginaldo
65' Dessena booked for a late challenge on Ambrosini.
Kaka loses the ball and Parma break. A ball from the right is slid through the Milan defence into the path of Budan about eight yards out but Kalac closes him down and makes a brilliant save.
68' Magnificent save from Bucci after a thunderous low volley from 10 yards by Kaka who controlled a Cafu cross on his chest.
70' Substitution: Maldini for Jankulovski
Maldini makes the 1,000th appearance of his career.
72' Cigarini injures himself as he fouls Kaka 25 yards from goal.
73' Pirlo's free-kick goes just wide of the post with Bucci stranded.
74' Parma survive. Inzaghi's first shot is blocked and his second is just saved by the foot of Bucci. The rebound falls to Gilardino whose first shot is blocked by a covering defender and his second effort, with his back to goal and while falling over, goes wide.
Substitution: Mariga for Cigarini
76' Gilardino heads over from a Maldini cross.
77' Inzaghi controls a Maldini cross in the area but his shot goes well wide.
78' Maldini wins a corner off Dessena.
The corner evades everyone and goes out for a goal kick.
81' Emerson booked for preventing Dessena taking a quick free-kick.
82' Kaka plays the ball into Gilardino who controls it with his back to goal and tries to send the ball into the path of Inzaghi. It is cut out and falls to Ambrosini whose shot goes over the bar.
85' The Parma defence cut out some intricate play between Inzaghi, Gilardino and Kaka on the edge of their area and break, Pisanu trying to release Budan between Nesta and Kaladze but Kalac kicks the ball up the field.
89' Pirlo's free-kick is repelled at the edge of the area but he regains control, goes down the left and sends in a cross which Bucci palms away. Emerson takes control of the ball in the area but his shot goes just over the bar.
90' Kalac makes a good save at his near post to deny Budan (or was it Gasbarroni? :huh:)
Parma's corner comes in and Milan fail to deal with it sufficiently, conceding another.
90' +1 The corner is cleared back to the taker, Gasbarroni, whose cross goes straight to Kalac.
90' +2 Mariga is dispossessed just outside his area and Kaka breaks through a couple of players but his shot is blocked.
Full-time: Parma 0 AC Milan 0
Predictions for Wednesday:
-Kalac to start in goal
-Oddo to start at right-back
-Nesta to play in central defence with Kaladze, Maldini to start at left-back
-Gattuso, Pirlo and either Ambrosini or Pirlo to start in the more defensive midfield roles.
-Kaka and Seedorf to start behind a lone striker - Inzaghi
Kalac
Oddo
Nesta
Kaladze
Maldini
Pirlo
Gattuso
Ambrosini
Seedorf
Kaka
Inzaghi
I'm sure Pato will only be on the bench due to a lack of continental experience and match fitness. The one thing I believe I could have wrong is that Jankulovski may start at left-back meaning that Maldini will either start on the bench or replace Kaladze in central defence from the start.
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17/02:
Fucks sake.
Kalac dislocated the phalanx of the index finger in his right hand during training today. We'll know tomorrow if he's out of the Arsenal game and if he is, we get to choose between "I've not played in years and am nearly 40" Valerio Fiori and youth team goalkeeper Daniel Offredi. Fucking genius decision to loan out Abbiati, Storari and Coppola for the season.
If he's out, then it will be hard for Milan.
Phil W.A.F.C
18-02-2008, 16:23
I heard they will be forced to play Valerio Fiori whos hasnt played since the 03/04 season :ohmy:
Squad for Arsenal:
GOALKEEPERS Kalac, Fiori, Offredi (30).
DEFENDERS Cafu, Maldini, Nesta, Kaladze, Simic, Jankulovski, Favalli, Bonera, Oddo.
MIDFIELDERS Emerson, Gattuso, Seedorf, Gourcuff, Pirlo, Ambrosini, Brocchi.
FORWARDS Kakà, Gilardino, Inzaghi, Pato.
I heard they will be forced to play Valerio Fiori whos hasnt played since the 03/04 season :ohmy:
Which explains my ridiculously high levels of concern :no:
Phil W.A.F.C
18-02-2008, 21:53
You should be fine. Arsenal havnt got the experiance and the greatness of the Milan team. There in my eyes the best team in the world and if Man United dont win the Champions League then my money is on Milan ;)
Squad for Arsenal:
GOALKEEPERS Kalac, Fiori, Offredi (30).
DEFENDERS Cafu, Maldini, Nesta, Kaladze, Simic, Jankulovski, Favalli, Bonera, Oddo.
MIDFIELDERS Emerson, Gattuso, Seedorf, Gourcuff, Pirlo, Ambrosini, Brocchi.
FORWARDS Kakà, Gilardino, Inzaghi, Pato.
Which explains my ridiculously high levels of concern :no:
Don't worry, reserve keepers have an odd habit of playing absolute blinders against us before returning to obscurity just a few games later.
I still can't believe you guys have done very little to bring the average age of your team down.
Don't worry, reserve keepers have an odd habit of playing absolute blinders against us before returning to obscurity just a few games later.
Yes but are you aware of our latest tactic? Defensive midfielder Ambrosini as a target man. Jesus didn't just weep, he caused a series of major floods.
I still can't believe you guys have done very little to bring the average age of your team down.
According to Galliani, if we can win the Champions League (last season) we clearly don't need to buy anyone. Clearly the words of a twat.
mufcsean
18-02-2008, 22:56
Yes but are you aware of our latest tactic? Defensive midfielder Ambrosini as a target man. Jesus didn't just weep, he caused a series of major floods.
According to Galliani, if we can win the Champions League (last season) we clearly don't need to buy anyone. Clearly the words of a twat.
As for the part in bold, it could be worse, have you heard the stuff that Mohamed Al-Fayed has been saying today, at least no big heads from Milan are doing that.
Bammers05
19-02-2008, 12:16
Don't worry, reserve keepers have an odd habit of playing absolute blinders against us before returning to obscurity just a few games later.
Well said
Did my eyes deceive me or has Kalac been rather good?
Did my eyes deceive me or has Kalac been rather good?
Of late, yes. He is our first-choice now ahead of Dida.
At least one excellent save in each of his last four games from memory, and a decent number of those after the 88th minute.
You should be fine. Arsenal havnt got the experiance and the greatness of the Milan team. There in my eyes the best team in the world and if Man United dont win the Champions League then my money is on Milan ;)
Stop cramming. Best team in the world my foot.. If they are so great how come they are a whole 21pts behind leaders Inter and last season 36 pts in four spot and also out of the Italian cup as early as January..
Stop cramming. Best team in the world my foot.. If they are so great how come they are a whole 21pts behind leaders Inter and last season 36 pts in four spot and also out of the Italian cup as early as January..
You're right about Serie A but no big club on the continent gives much of a toss about their domestic cup competition. In Italy, second-string teams are used.
Phil W.A.F.C
19-02-2008, 16:49
Stop cramming. Best team in the world my foot.. If they are so great how come they are a whole 21pts behind leaders Inter and last season 36 pts in four spot and also out of the Italian cup as early as January..
Well has it not been proven by winning the Champions league and then the World Club Championships? Anyways you Arsenal fans get a bit excited at being top of the league but as soon as you get knocked out the Carling Cup by Spurs or get batterd in the F.A Cup your on each others backs. Just wait til tommorow we will see then. :laugh:
Well has it not been proven by winning the Champions league and then the World Club Championships? Anyways you Arsenal fans get a bit excited at being top of the league but as soon as you get knocked out the Carling Cup by Spurs or get batterd in the F.A Cup your on each others backs. Just wait til tommorow we will see then. :laugh:
You support wigan end of!!!
Should be a good game tomorrow...
Phil W.A.F.C
19-02-2008, 16:54
So what does that mean? Your probably an armchair thats hasnt ever been to the Emirates. Infact i bet iv been to the Emirates more times than you so toddle off to your Arsenal Thread :jack:
There's an Arsenal thread for this shite.
Phil W.A.F.C
19-02-2008, 17:08
Exactly but I Dont wana go on shit like that :D
Five of our players have appeared in all six CL games:
Pirlo, Gattuso, Seedorf, Kaka (all as expected)............and Daniele Bonera :no:
Rumours persist linking us with a move for Matteo Ferrari on the summer as he has now confirmed he will leave Roma on a free when his contract expires. Make no mistake...he, like Bonera, is nowhere near good enough to play for us. I categorically do not want him to join.
Five of our players have appeared in all six CL games:
Pirlo, Gattuso, Seedorf, Kaka (all as expected)............and Daniele Bonera :no:
Rumours persist linking us with a move for Matteo Ferrari on the summer as he has now confirmed he will leave Roma on a free when his contract expires. Make no mistake...he, like Bonera, is nowhere near good enough to play for us. I categorically do not want him to join.
I read about the Ferrari story a week ago. You have to admit, it would be typical Milan if it goes through :laugh:
I read about the Ferrari story a week ago. You have to admit, it would be typical Milan if it goes through :laugh:
That it would. That's why I'm so concerned.
He's young enough that they'll say he's being brought in to rejuvenate the squad and he's also in our price bracket - free.
We were nothing more than acceptable for the first 40 minutes but looked to be making mistakes for the last five minutes in the first half. I can't see where we're going to score from. I'm not a fan of our "hit the front men as soon as you can" tactic. It works for Arsenal because of Adebayor but not for us. If Gilardino were playing he'd be shite at doing the role and neither Inzaghi nor Pato are built for it.
somegooner
20-02-2008, 21:22
Gilardino is on. Should we be worried about him??
Gilardino is on. Should we be worried about him??
:lol:
Hmm.
I don't see what the big satisfaction is with 0-0. Clearly its better than a loss but I'd rather a high-scoring draw away from home as we don't have any away goals and therefore MUST win the game if Arsenal score.
A decent performance defensively, with some luck at the end. Oddo was rather poor - should've played the ball inside for the unmarked Pato just after the hour rather than shooting. I'm also more than a little tired of Pirlo's free-kicks. The odd one is great but his success rate is rather low and quite what he was trying to do with the two we had in the last five minutes of normal time, I really don't know.
Most impressed with Adebayor's attitude towards the defenders and Kalac. Very professional and mature.
Original?
20-02-2008, 21:40
Recently he's been nicking some important goals for Milan, so you perhaps should have been worried. A decent result for Milan, a daunting task ahead of Arsenal now.
I can see Arsenal scoring at the San Siro.
Hmm.
I don't see what the big satisfaction is with 0-0. Clearly its better than a loss but I'd rather a high-scoring draw away from home as we don't have any away goals and therefore MUST win the game if Arsenal score.
Avoiding defeat at Arsenal is a good result. At least you know that if you win you're through, even if Arsenal score.
I can see Arsenal scoring at the San Siro.
I can't see it to be honest.
I think we saw the thin line between progression and elimination when Adebayor hit the cross bar with a minute to go.
Stella Artois
20-02-2008, 23:03
Hmm.
I don't see what the big satisfaction is with 0-0. Clearly its better than a loss but I'd rather a high-scoring draw away from home as we don't have any away goals and therefore MUST win the game if Arsenal score.
A decent performance defensively, with some luck at the end. Oddo was rather poor - should've played the ball inside for the unmarked Pato just after the hour rather than shooting. I'm also more than a little tired of Pirlo's free-kicks. The odd one is great but his success rate is rather low and quite what he was trying to do with the two we had in the last five minutes of normal time, I really don't know.
Most impressed with Adebayor's attitude towards the defenders and Kalac. Very professional and mature.
I can say with all honesty that I've well and truly given up with this site, but I'm still interested in your opinion on things Sweey.
I thought the first half was a fairly tactical battle. I thought Lehmann made a tremendous save from a Maldini (was it him?) flick-on, but other than that I thought you offered little. As for us, we probed and tried for much of the half, but the big moment came when Adebayor overplayed the pass to Eduardo. That was a pivitol (sp?) time for us.
Second half I thought we dominated. You broke away and caused a few problems (Oddo should have done a lot better with his chance) but on the whole it was all us. How Adebayor hit the post I'll never know!
The questions I have for you are:
a) Do you believe Milan will play a lot differently at home? I.e. push on for the win?
b) Were you pleased with Pato? Personally I thought the lad looked class.
c) What did you think of Fabregas and Flamini? I thought the longer the game went on the better they got. Flamini really is your Gattuso.
e) Anything else to add? How did you think we performed?
e) Good luck bitch. ;)
AgentZero
20-02-2008, 23:30
a solid game from Spider. Good to see he shared a few smirks and giggles with adebayor.
I can say with all honesty that I've well and truly given up with this site, but I'm still interested in your opinion on things Sweey.
I thought the first half was a fairly tactical battle. I thought Lehmann made a tremendous save from a Maldini (was it him?) flick-on, but other than that I thought you offered little. As for us, we probed and tried for much of the half, but the big moment came when Adebayor overplayed the pass to Eduardo. That was a pivitol (sp?) time for us.
Second half I thought we dominated. You broke away and caused a few problems (Oddo should have done a lot better with his chance) but on the whole it was all us. How Adebayor hit the post I'll never know!
The questions I have for you are:
a) Do you believe Milan will play a lot differently at home? I.e. push on for the win?
b) Were you pleased with Pato? Personally I thought the lad looked class.
c) What did you think of Fabregas and Flamini? I thought the longer the game went on the better they got. Flamini really is your Gattuso.
e) Anything else to add? How did you think we performed?
e) Good luck bitch. ;)
Cheers for the compliment ;)
It was indeed Maldini's flick-on (Gilardino had the one from our only other corner in the second half).
a) Galliani has said immediately after the match that we will focus on fitness ahead of the second leg in order to provide a different threat to Arsenal. We like teams who come on to us and allow us the space to play which is why our home record in Serie A isn't so good - teams come and pack the defence which we find it difficult to break down. We're a patient home crowd so the team won't be under pressure to score early but there will be tension as a first goal for Arsenal will put us in difficulty and I don't believe it is as out of the question as others on here seem to believe. We lack pace which our midfield highlighted late on when Arsenal had a 4v3 against us due to runners getting beyond our retreating midfield and leaving them for dead.
b) Pato so far has been excellent. His pace was a delight as it is something we lack except for Kaka. He has lots of confidence which allows him to produce the sort of skills and runs he's comfortable with. I wanted Inzaghi on (his non-apperance was either down to injury or the perceived physical capabilities of the Arsenal central defensive pair) but not in place of Pato. Hopefully his injury isn't too serious and he'll be fine for the return leg. I was pleased and impressed with Ancelotti choosing to go with him from the start.
c) Fabregas really grew into the game and his long balls toward Adebayor kept our defence very much on their toes. Flamini looked good but Fabregas stole the show in that regard.
d) I think you did well. Kaka isn't having a great season but it is still a job to keep him quiet and I think you dealt with everything in a very organised manner. The way the defence pushed up during your loading up of the wing areas in the second half kept us pinned back and unable to mount serious attacks. I see us having problems scoring in the second leg.
e) Thanks ;)
a solid game from Spider. Good to see he shared a few smirks and giggles with adebayor.
It was indeed nice to see. He was a good shot-stopper at Perugia which earned him the move to us as reserve goalkeeper. It is nice to see him performing well for us, especially after he was so patient and professional when it seemed as though hiis chance to cement a first-team place would never come no matter how badly Dida performed.
So will Ancelotti pick Kalac over Dida when Dida's back?
Kalac looks good recently.
So will Ancelotti pick Kalac over Dida when Dida's back?
Kalac looks good recently.
Wan, Dida was back for three matches prior to his latest injury and not selected for any of them. The back problem he now has was suffered while sitting on the bench after again not being selected. I'm sure I've already stated that very recently in this thread.
EDIT: I have:
Of late, yes. He is our first-choice now ahead of Dida.
At least one excellent save in each of his last four games from memory, and a decent number of those after the 88th minute.
mufcsean
21-02-2008, 23:27
Do you think Milan will try and get another keeper in the summer or do you think will just bring back and use the ones they have loaned out
Well maybe they will get Stekelenburg of Ajax as he has rejected Ajax's contract offer.
Or use the loaned out Abbiati but I'm sure Sweey doesn't quite like him.
mufcsean
22-02-2008, 11:35
They have another keeper out on loan, Coppola at Atalanta, i'm sure there is another aswell. I read a while back, during the last transfer window, that Milan were interested in Palermo's keeper Agliardi, but he hasn't been there long.
I can confirm for you now Wan that Stekelenburg won't be joining Milan, Milan don't pay much for players, Ajax will want a bit for this guy, especially if Spurs are after him, they will splash the cash no problem but Milan hate paying big bucks for outfield players never mind keepers
We've got Coppola and Abbiati as already mentioned plus Storari on loan at Cagliari. I don't expect Storari to remain with us and with Abbiati it has always been 50-50 as he spoke out against being dropped a couple of times years ago which we as fans didn't like as he was making errors which were definitively cancelling out any good saves he made.
It's difficult to follow the thinking in Italy sometimes and the way in which a player can suddenly go from being mediocre to brilliant can be surprising - Amantino Mancini was regularly benched at Venezia in Serie B before joining Roma, Alberto Gilardino was lauded as a teenager but in his first four years he scored 8 league goals in 56 games before sparking to life at Parma. That said, I think I'm right to suggest that Ferdinando Coppola is likely a long-term replacement for Fiori - a third-choice goalkeeper.
We must surely sell either Dida or Kalac if we are to purchase a new goalkeeper and it really ought to be the Brazilian. Names of potential new goalkeepers over the months have included Amelia (Livorno), Bruno (Flamengo), Frey (Fiorentina), Lloris (Nice), Stekelenburg (Ajax) and an Argentine goalkeeper whose name presently escapes me. I also wouldn't be surprised if Landreau was again linked to us.
On another matter, we're being linked with a summer move for Luca Toni. Galliani made a mistake in not signing him from Palermo when Zamparini offered Toni to us and although we don't cross the ball with either quantity or any sort of quality, I think he'd be good for us.
Names of potential new goalkeepers over the months have included Amelia (Livorno), Bruno (Flamengo), Frey (Fiorentina), Lloris (Nice), Stekelenburg (Ajax) and an Argentine goalkeeper whose name presently escapes me. I also wouldn't be surprised if Landreau was again linked to us.
Sorry to take it off topic but I've always been a huge admirer of Sébastien, especially his time at Parma. Is he still as good as I remember? Also, why the fuck has he never been France's number 1!?
Sorry to take it off topic but I've always been a huge admirer of Sébastien, especially his time at Parma. Is he still as good as I remember? Also, why the fuck has he never been France's number 1!?
Because Coupet is a lot better?
Because Coupet is a lot better?
No way.Well I don't know about now but I'm talking about 2000 to 2004 when I used to watch Serie so Barthez was number 1, yet he was shit!
Morientes19
22-02-2008, 13:47
Does anyone think Maldini is starting to look his age now.
He looked a bit of sorts at LB against arsenal, giving away passes and looked hurried in patches. But when he moved into CB position he looked like the old Maldini. He has obv lost his legs but still a great player. Not good at LB though.
Another point.....Anyone think AC Milan can win the CL again this year??
I think if they had a goal machine up front they would be amazing. Also maybe some pace in the team.
mufcsean
22-02-2008, 13:49
Well they are very good at home in the Cl and if they can keep teams at bay away like they did Arsenal, i can't see why not
Does anyone think Maldini is starting to look his age now.
He looked a bit of sorts at LB against arsenal, giving away passes and looked hurried in patches. But when he moved into CB position he looked like the old Maldini. He has obv lost his legs but still a great player. Not good at LB though.
Another point.....Anyone think AC Milan can win the CL again this year??
I think if they had a goal machine up front they would be amazing. Also maybe some pace in the team.
Where the hell did my earlier post go?
Miggy, Frey is as good as you remember and it is a crime that he has only played for France once.
Morientes, we use him at left-back because he brings a surprising amount of attacking threat from that position. He also plays once every fortnight now so is generally quite rested each time he plays, allowing us more flexibility in where to field him. As for us winning the CL, we look far weaker than we were last season. Of course Pato is a plus for us but that we're relying more on people like Bonera, Cafu and Favalli this season isn't a good thing.
I struggle to see why we're considered such clear favourites when Arsenal are more than capable of achieving a score draw in Milan.
Morientes19
22-02-2008, 13:55
Arsenal were a little sloppy in front of goal though.
Strange situation Milan are in (very much like Liverpool) struggling domestically in the league, but really hard to beat in europe.
Least we beat Inter for ya ;) lol
Arsenal were a little sloppy in front of goal though.
Strange situation Milan are in (very much like Liverpool) struggling domestically in the league, but really hard to beat in europe.
Least we beat Inter for ya ;) lol
Yes but I wanted them to beat you :>
Morientes19
22-02-2008, 14:01
Where the hell did my earlier post go?
Miggy, Frey is as good as you remember and it is a crime that he has only played for France once.
Morientes, we use him at left-back because he brings a surprising amount of attacking threat from that position. He also plays once every fortnight now so is generally quite rested each time he plays, allowing us more flexibility in where to field him. As for us winning the CL, we look far weaker than we were last season. Of course Pato is a plus for us but that we're relying more on people like Bonera, Cafu and Favalli this season isn't a good thing.
I struggle to see why we're considered such clear favourites when Arsenal are more than capable of achieving a score draw in Milan.
Yeah i see AC Milan play quite a bit and ur spot on. Maldini can only play like 1 game every 2 weeks at best, and they rest him all the time and only call on him for massive games such as CL.
Yeah AC looked much stronger last season, really hard to break down and was constant threat going forward.
Cafu is like Maldini who ya cant expect to play every week, i rem when he bombed up and down the pitch every week, great player, great engine, but getting on a bit now. Bonera is not bad but dont think he is AC Milan class.
Yeah Pato is looking a great prospect right now. Although i hope he doesnt crack under the pressure. Leading the line for one of the biggest clubs in the world at 18 could be a lil scary. Whats happened to Inzagi and the out of form Gillardino??
Yeah Arsenal will be hard game, with so many young, fresh players, they dont really get scared but thrive on it. And they can slice any team on their day. But i wouldnt be suprised if AC won the CL again. But they seem a little ''leggy'' and ''tired'' at time this season.
Apologies for double post =(
Morientes19
22-02-2008, 14:02
Yes but I wanted them to beat you :>
What???? Ur wanting AC Milans biggest rivals to win :0 lol
Jake Small
22-02-2008, 17:43
I thought Arsenal looked far more dangerous.
Pirlo had a bit of a shocker. Though there seemed to be a fair bit of miscommunication with Pato's runs up front, for Pirlo and others, because a lot of times balls would fly in over the top to nobody...
I thought Arsenal looked far more dangerous.
Pirlo had a bit of a shocker. Though there seemed to be a fair bit of miscommunication with Pato's runs up front, for Pirlo and others, because a lot of times balls would fly in over the top to nobody...
Without doubt Arsenal looked more dangerous thanks to Adebayor and later Fabregas. As I stated in this thread at half-time, I had no idea where a Milan goal was even going to come from.
Pato's runs were fine, it was the balls being played through which I hold issue with. Pirlo has these performances from time to time - and too often if I'm being honest. I know its the nature of a creative player like him but I refuse to lower the standards I expect of someone like him - how many poor games did Baggio have in his career? Others should be looking to achieve those lofty standards if they truly wish to be remembered as world class. Andrea Pirlo is not, at this present time, a player I will remember immediately in fifteen years time. Ronaldo, on the other hand, is. No not Cristiano for those of you reading this who are stupid.
What???? Ur wanting AC Milans biggest rivals to win :0 lol
For many reasons, not least that it aids Italy's co-efficient.
Billy Minof
23-02-2008, 12:24
I am thinking of going away for a weekend soon and Milan is a very likely desitination, are tickets hard to come by for games?
No they aren't as long as you don't plan to attend a game against Inter or Juventus. Our average attendance is around 55,000 in Serie A for a stadium seating 82,955.
Stella Artois
23-02-2008, 22:10
You might be linked with Adebayor (leave him alone!), but this is really classy.
COME ON EDUARDO!
2/23/2008
MILAN - Eduardo Da Silva has broken his left leg in the match against Birmingham today, as reported by the BBC. The Rossoneri's family wishes the Arsenal striker all the best and a quick return to playing.
Taken from your website.
God I can't wait for the return leg.
nickpring
23-02-2008, 23:01
Don what will the prices be like for the Milan derby? I'm looking to go to one in the near future.
Don what will the prices be like for the Milan derby? I'm looking to go to one in the near future.
This (http://www.acmilan.com/infoPage.aspx?id=51527) is a guide.
You might be linked with Adebayor (leave him alone!), but this is really classy.
Taken from your website.
God I can't wait for the return leg.
This is a club I'm proud of supporting for reasons such as that message and others like them. I know a lot of clubs would do that sort of thing, but it is still something I respect from us.
As for Adebayor, we should've been after him when he was at Lyon. He, Drogba, Benzema, Toni and *shakes my head in disgust* Shevchenko are our five striking targets.
Keyser Soze
23-02-2008, 23:34
As for Adebayor, we should've been after him when he was at Lyon.
Would've had a job on you're hands since he's never been there. :tongue:
23/02/08, 23:38:
Would've had a job on you're hands since he's never been there. :tongue:
Bollocks, Monaco. So THAT'S where Galliani went wrong....no wonder I don't work for Milan :no:
As has been the case with a couple of recent games, I'm planning on providing commentary on match events from tomorrow night's match with Palermo.
24/02/08:
MILAN: Kalac; Oddo, Bonera, Kaladze, Jankulovski; Gattuso, Pirlo, Ambrosini; Kakà; Gilardino, Pato.
PALERMO: Fontana; Zaccardo, Barzagli, Biava; Cassani, Guana, Migliaccio, Bresciano, Balzaretti; Cavani, Amauri.
Nasty looking forward line Palermo are using - the strength, power and intricacy of Amauri alongside the pace of Cavani. Cassani and Balzaretti to provide the width and crosses with Bresciano and Guana to take it in turns raiding centrally.
In the build-up to this game, Ancelotti has finally spoken about his unhappiness with the crossing by our full-backs. No doubt we'll funnel everything through the centre - when don't we? - and up against a five-man midfield and central three in defence that could play squarely into Palermo's hands if they are organised.
2' Free-kick to Milan just outside the area after a foul by Guana on Kaka who is clutching his knee - an injury he's been playing through.
We might be well and truly fucked now.
Gourcuff warming up though Kaka is now walking.
4' Pirlo's free-kick comes to nothing.
Kaka comes back on.
Is Miccoli on the bench?
Yep.
6' Oddo floats a ball into the area in the direction of nobody from 35 yards.
9' GOAL! Palermo take the lead. A ball into the area is flicked into the corner by Bresciano, via the chest of Oddo whose marking isn't great.
12' Palermo free-kick on right wing after a foul by Pirlo on Cassani.
13' The free-kick is cut out by Gattuso and Milan take possession.
14' Free-kick to Milan to the left of the penalty area after Pato is fouled.
Pirlo's free-kick is header clear by Amauri though Milan retain possession.
15' Amauri picks the ball up in midfield near the touchline, spins away from two players and dribbles clear of two more before Bonera gets a block in as the Brazilian starts to set himself for a shot.
17' Gilardino is found centrally on the edge of the area but he fails to control the ball and appeals for a penalty (handball) against Barzagli.
19'Replays suggest Milan may have had a case in appealing for a penalty against Barzagli.
20' Fontana makes a good save from a 25-yard Kaka drive.
The only bright note for Milan: Pato looks lively and keen.
Gilardino isn't doing much, Oddo's crossing is awful, Pirlo looks totally out of form.
24' GOAL! The first good cross by Oddo finds Ambrosini sliding in at the far post.
30' Free-kick to Milan 30 yards out after a foul by Guana on Kaka.
31' Mr "one good free-kick in ten" sees his time come around again. Pirlo curls it over the wall but Fontana punches it away. As Milan keep possesion and move the ball around, Jankulovski is fouled by Guana from a similar distance.
32' Pirlo curls the second free-kick in a similar position and it is tipped over by Fontana.
The first corner leads to a second.
The second corner goes to the other side and is worked back across the midfield before a ball forward into the area is overhit and Palermo win a goal kick.
33' Guana fouls Kaka again and Milan win a free-kick in a central position about 45 yards out.
Dragonfly
24-02-2008, 20:04
Are you getting this from somewhere or doing it yourself?
Are you getting this from somewhere or doing it yourself?
Doing it myself :|
Prefer it this way to the ones that get done by the likes of EuroSport or the biased, sometimes inaccurate version on the official Milan website.
36' Kaka is booked after tripping Cassani from behind. A culmination of many such fouls, most of them on Migliaccio.
Dragonfly
24-02-2008, 20:07
I thought so. The "one good free-kick in ten" made me think that Eurosport guy wants to get the sack.
37' Milan make two clearances - one from a low Amauri cross on the right after he nutmegged Jankulovski and a second from Balzaretti on the left. Palermo have a throw-in.
I thought so. The "one good free-kick in ten" made me think that Eurosport guy wants to get the sack.
:laugh:
41' Ambrosini receives possession in the centre of the penalty area but he is dispossed by two Palermo defenders.
The ball is again floated into Ambrosini who flicks it to his right into the path of Gilardino but Palermo recover to concede a corner.
42' A low pass into the right side of the area finds Kaka who wins a corner.
The corner bobbles around in the area and comes to the weaker right foot of Jankulovvski who blazes over from ten yards.
44' Balzaretti is booked for fouling Oddo as the Milan right-back attempts to make his way to the byline for a cross. Milan free-kick.
45' Pirlo chips the ball into the area from the free-kick and it is met by the head of Ambrosini but the ball goes over.
Half-time: AC Milan 1 (Ambrosini 24) Palermo 1 (Bresciano 9)
Substitution: Gourcuff for Kaka
51' Free-kick to AC Milan 35 yards out after a foul by Cavani on Pirlo. It comes to nothing.
Inzaghi warming up.
greenegg
24-02-2008, 20:41
Some great dedication here Don but since you're the only one who cares it's somewhat maniacal :tongue:
Some great dedication here Don but since you're the only one who cares it's somewhat maniacal :tongue:
:jester:
53' Biava plays a long ball over the top to Amauri who takes control of it but is unable to beat Bonera. He is dispossessed and Milan clear.
55' Substitution: Simplicio for Bresciano
56' Simplicio breaks through down the left but Kaladze recovers and shows Simplicio outside allowing the ball to run through to Kalac.
Amauri is looking fantastic.
59' Balzaretti beats three Milan players in midfield, plays the ball left and continues his run. The ball is played into Amauri who heads the ball on but cannot direct it into the path of Balzaretti's run and Milan win a goal kick.
63' Pato sparks a lost Milan, nutmegging a defender and smashing in a shot from 20 yards which Fontana tips wide.
64' Kaladze is denied a volley from the corner by a very deliberate handball from Migliaccio (stuck his hand out completely) but disgustingly no penalty is given.
65' Kalac is forced to tip a curling free-kick wide.
66' Cassani is booked for fouling Pato as he tried to spark a counter-attacking move.
69' Cavani receives the ball in space, turns and closes in on goal. His shot from just outside the area goes over when he ought to have forced a save from Kalac.
73' Substitution: Inzaghi for Gilardino
75' Gourcuff is so shit he goes flying into Inzaghi when trying to connect with a ball crossed into the area.
Palermo happy to play on the counter, Milan severely lacking penetration.
78' Kaladze booked for fouling Amauri on the halfway line after the Brazilian uses his trickery to get away.
84' I'm not a happy bunny.
86' Substitution: Favalli for Jankulovski :realmad:
88' Substitution: Tedesco for Cavani
90' Four minutes of injury time to be played.
90' +1 GOAL! Gourcuff's first bit of good play; controlling the ball on the left, checking back onto his right foot and crossing the ball onto the head of Inzaghi with his first chance since coming on.
Full-time: AC Milan 2 (Ambrosini 24, Inzaghi 90) Palermo 1 (Bresciano 9)
Won't gloss over it, a dire performance but we've somehow won no thanks to the referee. One clear penalty not given, another debatable one not given either.
My lack of updates towards the end were 25% nothing happening and 75% me sitting here fuming.
Dragonfly
24-02-2008, 21:24
I think Fontana really needed to go for a piss.
26/02/08, 6:25pm:
A statement from our official website with some grammatical errors as I believe someone has translated it quickly from Italian:
MILAN – The initial "score" of the last two league games on Ricardo Kaka? Here you go. Parma-Milan, first half: in the 7th minute a foul by Morrone from behind, in the 17th minute a foul by Dessena on the edge of the penalty area, in the 20th minute a foul by Morrone. These last in particular is the model of the Kaka-method. The “targeted” player did a bad slide tackle on the player’s foot, risking everything: leg, or ankle, it doesn’t matter, on him you have to risk.
It’s not over. Milan-Palermo, first half: after 1 minute and 43 seconds a bad foul by Guana, from behind, exactly on the knee which is hurting Kaka. In the 22nd minute a foul by Migliaccio in midfield, not even whistled by the referee. In the 29th minute a foul by Bresciano, from behind, on Kaka who was launched towards the penalty area, with Ricky, who full of knocks and pain, has a reaction towards the referee.
Amongst these two games, London, where the loyalty in the Champions League and the sports culture are higher. What really hits us in the Italian league, is not just the numerous number of fouls on Kaka, on which the referees of our league overlook, but the scientific factor. It’s never the same player to make these fouls. There is an alteration between one player and another. As if it was a strategy. Almost the sign of a preparation. And here evidently the referees have no fault at all.
The hammering which Kaka is suffering is the same which had mined the physique and resistance of Marco Van Basten. The Dutch star played his last game at the highest level at 28 years of age. It was November 1992 against Gothenborg at San Siro. Then here never came back. No! It must not happen for Kaka too. There is no post-Golden Ball crisis and there is no world class player playing badly. We are simply facing a player who is hunted, who has to stop for 15-20 days to manage his problems, then evidently does not return on the pitch at his best.
The reality is that whereas the Milan opponents take turns in fouling Kaka, and the first minutes foul does not receive any sanction, it is becoming a custom of most Italian teams towards Kaka. The Rossoneri’s team are therefore risking an important part of the season against Arsenal. In the Kaka will recover, he will prepare himself and he will do his best to be in front of 80,000 fans at San Siro. Until the next foul, or the ‘ordinary administration’ of the Italian referees. So in the end, until when?
27/02/08:
CATANIA: Polito; Sardo, Silvestri, Stovini, Silvestre, Varagas; Colucci, Edusei, Baiocco; Martinez, Mascara
MILAN: Kalac; Cafu, Bonera, Maldini, Favalli; Brocchi, Emerson, Ambrosini; Seedorf; Pato, Inzaghi
What a shocking defence we've got out tonight, albeit forced by injuries to Nesta, Kaladze and Jankulovski.
Sweey, after seeing your comments in Stellas champs league moan thread, I wondered if you're a little concerned at Milans season and their ageing squad?
Man I sound like a fucking journalist.
Stella Artois
28-02-2008, 10:58
Sweey, after seeing your comments in Stellas champs league moan thread, I wondered if you're a little concerned at Milans season and their ageing squad?
Man I sound like a fucking journalist.
It's a complaint thread. :huh:
Anyway, I can't wait till next week. I reckon it's going to be a classic. I just hope Bendtner puts in a performance and Senderos (if he starts) plays as well as he did last time around.
Sweey, after seeing your comments in Stellas champs league moan thread, I wondered if you're a little concerned at Milans season and their ageing squad?
Man I sound like a fucking journalist.
Very.
Lets analyse a little (I'm meant to be working :laugh:)
In goal, Kalac is fine but Dida must go. Age isn't a major concern for our goalkeepers but it'd be nice to get someone in their mid-20s who will be out first choice for a few years. That said, Kalac fully deserves to be considered ahead of any potential signings. He's been professional and deserves his place without doubt.
In defence I'm unhappy. Maldini is retiring at the end of the season, Cafu is past it now (can make a fraction of the runs he used to but still defensively suspect), Favalli is past it, Nesta is fine, Kaladze is ok - can make amazing tackles and then making ridiculous errors though - Bonera is shite and Simic is leaving. The potential signing of Matteo Ferrari, a younger defender like Bonera and equally useless is going to drive me up the wall. There's a reason Roma aren't falling over themselves to keep him. Jankulovski at left-back is fine although I want Vargas. He can cross superbly which although Jankulovski can do some of, Oddo on the other side has become a concern and needs solid competition at right-back. Some of Oddo's - and the team's - crossing is so poor it is frightening.
In midfield I want new blood. Seedorf is fine but needs a proper battle for his place. Brocchi will leave this summer I'm sure but Gattuso, Pirlo, Ambrosini and Kaka are fine. Emerson is ok as a bit-part player but Gourcuff is a concern. I'm sure if he went to Arsenal he'd flourish yet he's lost himself with us and I'm not sure if we should persevere or get rid. Would be nice to get a strong defensive midfielder who can thread through balls though that wouldn't be cheap. Pirlo also needs to check himself - his free-kicks are occasionally brilliant and regularly poor.
In attack we're almost there. Pato has been brilliant, Gilardino can at least create space though his lack of goals are a concern and Inzaghi we have to keep because of what he can still offer. I'm not happy we're possibly getting Rolando Bianchi, I'd rather Marco Borriello were given a chance despite my previous hatred of him. Been linked again with Kanoute this morning. Whether true or not, if Ancelotti is indeed looking for a striker who is aerially strong and also good on the ground (Luca Toni has also been mentioned, as has Amauri both of whom can do the job) then that's a good thing. If on top of that the Italian media are right that Berlusconi has said we can't spend more then £10-15m on a striker I'm only happy if it is because the rest of our money is going on the defence and a goalkeeper. We also have Oliveira though I doubt we'll give him a chance unless we have no money to sign anyone else.
I actually read something about Borriello yesterday, his hat-trick against Udinese sounded pretty special. I've always been a fan of both Pirlo and Inzaghi, although I can't say a massive fan as I don't see them week in week out, the same with highlight reels I guess, you can say Pirlo is a maestro at set pieces but when you only generally see the ones that create goals or score them, and not the ones slammed into the wall etc it all sounds a little hollow.
Inzaghi is different class, a true poacher and Milan really should keep hold of him, of course there's a little bit of pressure on Pato but he seems the type of kid to thrive off that. Defence looks ageing, Cafu has seen better days, as has Favalli, squad players at best.
What about Digao? Am I right in thinking he's Kaka's brother? I noticed earlier this season Milans website had him down as being in the first team squad. Is he any kop?
What about Digao? Am I right in thinking he's Kaka's brother? I noticed earlier this season Milans website had him down as being in the first team squad. Is he any kop?
I think he's only with us because he's Kaka's brother. It would do very little to surprise me if it wasn't a part of Kaka staying with us for a long period of time. That isn't to say he's useless but I'm pretty sure he'll never be the standard we expect of our defenders. That said, Bonera never will be either...or Ferrari but the former was signed on a free and the latter is leaving Roma on a free at the end of this season.
I always thought Bonera was pretty solid, obviously not :mellow:
I always thought Bonera was pretty solid, obviously not :mellow:
I'd go with accident-prone. He's decent enough for a small club but he's not stepped up since joining us nearly two years ago. He reminds me of Martin Laursen: we'd be playing possession football with a fairly high line. The ball would get hoofed up by the opposition just to clear the ball and Laursen would be in 50 yards of space. His inability to control the ball would see him pass it off/clear it just as he's about to be tackled. Not great. Perhaps I'm being a tad harsh on Bonera but without being too up myself about Milan, he's not Milan quality.
Stella Artois
28-02-2008, 13:27
Laursen's been absolutely mint for Villa this season. :huh:
I'd go with accident-prone. He's decent enough for a small club but he's not stepped up since joining us nearly two years ago. He reminds me of Martin Laursen: we'd be playing possession football with a fairly high line. The ball would get hoofed up by the opposition just to clear the ball and Laursen would be in 50 yards of space. His inability to control the ball would see him pass it off/clear it just as he's about to be tackled. Not great. Perhaps I'm being a tad harsh on Bonera but without being too up myself about Milan, he's not Milan quality.
I did wonder why Laursen wasn't great for Milan, he's been, personally speaking, one of the top 5 defenders in the Premiership this season, not only for his partnership with Olof Mellberg but his goalscoring exploits too.
You're right in saying that about Bonera though, however good you might be playing for a team like Parma, you would still need to make that step up when you join a huge club like Milan, especially when you're following in the footsteps of players like Costacurta, Nesta, Baresi, Maldini, Tassotti etc. I guess he'll go down as one of the not so greats.
somegooner
28-02-2008, 15:22
I would prefer Walcott to start up front than Bendtner. He will run Maldini ragged.
Not necessarily mate, he might have the pace but Maldini has an absolute shed load of experience and a great footballing brain, there's every chance he'll know Walcotts next move before Walcott even does.
28/02:
Bendtner is the smart choice I think...although Walcott has the pace to scare us, we're not amazing on crosses as proved again last night and as we struggled to control Adebayor when knowing all searching balls were going to him, it'll make it tougher when we don't know which one is going to be hit or have to follow the movements of two such players. Using Walcott when we're tired is a better option as Arsenal may be pushing for a goal at that time - or playing on the counter if we're level. Or we'll be screwed by then :(
01/03:
Previous poll
"Where will we finish in Serie A?"
Fourth 8 - adriancgcg, Bammers05, Barry, D@MIR, Dragonfly, kake222, Rambo, yaohan
Fifth 0
Sixth 4 - KainLegacy, Meyyappan, Original?, wan109
Seventh to tenth 3 - Calzone, mufcsean, somegooner
Bottom half 0
First to third 4 - akutenshi, Cobinho, L . F . C, sredna68
New poll up: From seven strikers we're linked with, which one would you want for next season?
I strongly advise people not to vote for Shevchenko. Personally I believe we need someone who is good both in the air and on the ground - Adebayor, Amauri, Drogba and Kanoute are all good options as is Toni although he's older and bringing back druggie Borriello won't necessarily be the worst decision although it'll either work or go completely wrong. I do not want Bianchi.
The squad for tonight's game with Lazio:
GOALKEEPERS Fiori, Kalac, Offredi
DEFENDERS Bonera, Darmian (n.36), Digao, Jankulovski, Kaladze, Maldini, Oddo
MIDFIELDERS Ambrosini, Caraglia (n.39), Emerson, Gattuso, Gianola (n.35), Gourcuff, Seedorf
STRIKERS Aubameyang (n.94), Gilardino, Inzaghi, Pato, Paloschi.
Eight out - Dida, Cafu, Favalli, Nesta, Brocchi, Kaka, Pirlo and Ronaldo. If Maldini plays there's surely no way he'll feature against Arsenal in midweek.
For me, Drogba is the most realistic targets among the others.
mufcsean
01-03-2008, 14:58
Didier Drogba is the obvious choice of who i'd like at Milan but out of those i can see Amauri joining, which wouldn't be a bad thing at all
Sweey, why don't you go for Amoroso? I've heard he's available :tongue:
Marco Borriello is having a good season and he seems to be the cheapest option, plus he's already adapted to Serie A football and life in Italy. I'd go for him.
7:22
MILAN: Kalac; Oddo, Bonera, Kaladze, Jankulovski; Gattuso, Emerson, Gourcuff; Seedorf; Pato, Gilardino.
LAZIO: Ballotta; De Silvestri, Siviglia, Cribari, Radu; Behrami, Ledesma, Dabo; Pandev; Rocchi, Bianchi.
8:33
Seedorf off injured in the first half so now we're playing a 4-3-3 with two wing-backs who can't cross to save their lives at this moment in time. Pato is going down the left, Paloschi the right and Gilardino is in the middle.
8:39
Digao is on :doh:
Has he ever been on the pitch with Kaka?
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