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CaptainCabinet
27-11-2008, 22:35
If Pato had of played the whole game I dare say it would have been a very different story tonight.
Who are you? Braga?
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Believe me Pompey fans, I know what you're feeling :no:
Three observations:
1) Jammy cunts
2) Amazing free kick
3) Emerson honestly looks not long for the grave. He's at least 60, yeah?
1. We seem to make a habit of it, papering over the obvious cracks which go unnoticed by our clueless vice-president.
2. Definitely!
3. I don't know a single Milan fan who believes he actually benefits us because he so clearly doesn't.
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Believe me Pompey fans, I know what you're feeling :no:
I bet you do. Can't believe we've managed injury time goals in two consecutive European games.
Won't be here for the game today, but I will come back with positive comments about our win today...surely. :unsure:
Edit: Scratch that. Change of plans will be here for the game.
Palermo: Amelia; Cassani, Carrozieri, Bovo, Balzaretti; Nocerino, Liverani, Bresciano; Simplicio, Miccoli, Cavani.
Milan: Abbiati; Zambrotta, Bonera, Maldini, Jankulovski; Flamini, Pirlo, Ambrosini; Seedorf, Ronaldinho, Pato.
I'd say Miccoli is there biggest threat. Decent Midfield for Milan.
I'd say Miccoli is there biggest threat. Decent Midfield for Milan.
Pato-Ronaldinho backed up by Seedorf lacks strength and penetration but contains lots of trickery. Hopefully that will be enough to get some goals.
Cavani and Miccoli have pace which is always a worry against our central defenders.
I would rather have a stronger lone striker today. Physically.
Edit: Cavani and Maldini match up petty good is my thinking.
No composure at all from Pato with that half chance.
He just blasted it without even thinking of placing it so easliy past Amelia.
Ronaldinho :no:
Didn't look confident at all on the penalty.
I can't believe we didn't pick up a CB before the season start.
I can't believe we didn't pick up a CB before the season start.
We did - Benderos on loan :no:
Obviously too busy building this Galactico-type squad which is full of forwards who can't penetrate a defence regularly.
EDIT: Pirlo has been utterly shit so far.
Just about to post about Pirlo.
If Simpilcio is marking him so tight then push up and take him away from your 18 yard box. No he loses the ball and doesn't come back to defend.
Just about to post about Pirlo.
If Simpilcio is marking him so tight then push up and take him away from your 18 yard box. No he loses the ball and doesn't come back to defend.
This is why, despite his free-kick ability and random creativity, I reallly wanted us to sell him last summer. With the cash we could have bought someone like Miguel Veloso who no, isn't yet proven, but at least knows how to defend.
EDIT: Oh bollocks.
How I wish Tabare Viudez were playing.
WHY IS EMERSON COMING ON?! :realmad:
He might have been offside but Shevchenko should STILL have put the ball in the net. It isn't like he knew he was off until after his pathetic low shot was easily saved by Amelia.
EDIT: 2-0. Fuck this.
This is shit.
Edit: Carlo with another cigerette in his mouth.
3-0.
They actually remind me of the Milan side which finished 11th and 10th in successive seasons back in the late 90s.
EDIT: Penalty. Will we miss again?
Well, I can't wait for the january transfer period. We better unload some of these has beens. I can't think of one game this season where we looked confortable.
Edit: Hey it went in.
Well, I can't wait for the january transfer period. We better unload some of these has beens. I can't think of one game this season where we looked confortable.
Unfortunately we won't. Can't think of anyone brilliant we can buy either - because clubs won't let them go. Galliani already said last week, like a twat, that only Beckham is coming in January. Just what we need: another big personality.
Edit: Hey it went in.
Should've taken the first one with that level of confidence.
What the story with Barzagli in germany or Cannavaro in Madrid? Any chance of them wanting to come back to italia? Still age in them though.
What the story with Barzagli in germany or Cannavaro in Madrid? Any chance of them wanting to come back to italia. Still aga in them tho.
I don't ever want to see Barzagli back in Italy. He criticised Serie A because the Bundesliga has more goals. Clearly needs to look at his role and Wolfsburg's defensive record before speaking again.
Cannavaro will seemingly only return to Italy for Napoli and that is expected next summer.
I'm not even angry by tonight's "performance". I'm actually sitting here in utter disbelief that it has come to this.
Sooooo....Shevchenko wastes a host of chances, Emerson gets sent off after 66 minutes (two yellow cards in the space of six minutes), Shevchenko puts us ahead with twelve minutes left, Zarate equalises three minutes from full-time from the penalty spot and Pandev puts Lazio ahead two minutes into extra-time.
Its the least important competition we're in but considering Kaka and Ronaldinho started, we should have done better and are clearly trying to take it seriously.
About six minutes left.
Can't see the game here, but by the look of things I guess it's a good thing.
Sounds terrible.
Can't see the game here, but by the look of things I guess it's a good thing.
Sounds terrible.
I haven't seen it either but the phrase "Same shit different day" springs to mind.
MILAN: Dida; Antonini (Jankulovski 77), Senderos, Kaladze, Favalli; Flamini, Emerson, Seedorf (Zambrotta 90), Kakà, Ronaldinho; Shevchenko (Cardacio 85).
Well this should take a little pressure off Pirlo's back. That aside, if things don't change... new manager please or Anncilotti needs to make some changes.
From what i saw, Senderos was immense. :ninja:
Sweey, kindly move ur ass to the Samp thread, i have a question for you.
I don't get to watch any serie a really but i still check the results. I also regularly read this thread and find it quite interesting reading your views Sweey (no offence to the other posters) and probably as a result of that Milan interest me more than any other Serie A team. Anyway I know you want to see a centre half signed Sweey and today in the gossip it said Dan Agger was a target, obviously it cant be taken seriously but I'm still interested in what you would make of that as you seem like a pretty fussy guy when it comes to your new signings?
EDIT- hope that last bit didn't seem like an arsey comment, wasnt meant that way.
I don't get to watch any serie a really but i still check the results. I also regularly read this thread and find it quite interesting reading your views Sweey (no offence to the other posters) and probably as a result of that Milan interest me more than any other Serie A team. Anyway I know you want to see a centre half signed Sweey and today in the gossip it said Dan Agger was a target, obviously it cant be taken seriously but I'm still interested in what you would make of that as you seem like a pretty fussy guy when it comes to your new signings?
It still hurts. :crymore:
greenegg
03-12-2008, 22:39
Ach Meelan facked up my Accy. 8 teams 7 came in and then Meelan :faceplm:
It still hurts. :crymore:
:lol: I'm pretty sure you're joking but I'll still explain myself. It's just he posts the most in here and brings forward most of the talking points it seems for the other fans like you and other posters to discuss. Seems to follow Milan very closely and passionately and is very sure about what he thinks about and wants from his team. Not saying you're none of these, it's just he's the main man and keeps this thread ticking and reading this thread is what has made me interested in milan more than the other italian teams.
I don't get to watch any serie a really but i still check the results. I also regularly read this thread and find it quite interesting reading your views Sweey (no offence to the other posters) and probably as a result of that Milan interest me more than any other Serie A team. Anyway I know you want to see a centre half signed Sweey and today in the gossip it said Dan Agger was a target, obviously it cant be taken seriously but I'm still interested in what you would make of that as you seem like a pretty fussy guy when it comes to your new signings?
EDIT- hope that last bit didn't seem like an arsey comment, wasnt meant that way.
I've taken nothing from your post negatively. I suppose its quite a compliment that you enjoy reading my views.
I personally fail to understand, with no offence intended, how a 23-year-old Danish central defender standing at 6 foot 3 will solve our problems. Feel free to attack me for that, I just feel like we've been there before with Martin Laursen and that was awful.
Zapata is the man I want as he's repeatedly displayed his ability to defend tactically. His first-choice central defensive partner at Udinese, Dias Felipe, would be a poor signing due to failures of concentration. Mexes, who we have been heavily linked with, would be an awful signing in my opinion as he makes mistakes on a regular basis.
I've taken nothing from your post negatively. I suppose its quite a compliment that you enjoy reading my views.
I personally fail to understand, with no offence intended, how a 23-year-old Danish central defender standing at 6 foot 3 will solve our problems. Feel free to attack me for that, I just feel like we've been there before with Martin Laursen and that was awful.
Zapata is the man I want as he's repeatedly displayed his ability to defend tactically. His first-choice central defensive partner at Udinese, Dias Felipe, would be a poor signing due to failures of concentration. Mexes, who we have been heavily linked with, would be an awful signing in my opinion as he makes mistakes on a regular basis.
Nah it was just the fussy comment, thought there was a possibility of that coming across as a bit of a negative thing, anyway glad it didn't.
I knew Martin Laursen played for Milan but don't know anything about how he got on there. Now his injuries are behind him he's been doing great for Villa and is now the captain. What do you reckon made him do awful at Milan, was he one of those players that struggled to adjust to the demands of playing for a big club, was he getting injured regularly, i dunno what made his time at Milan awful?
Nah it was just the fussy comment, thought there was a possibility of that coming across as a bit of a negative thing, anyway glad it didn't.
I knew Martin Laursen played for Milan but don't know anything about how he got on there. Now his injuries are behind him he's been doing great for Villa and is now the captain. What do you reckon made him do awful at Milan, was he one of those players that struggled to adjust to the demands of playing for a big club, was he getting injured regularly, i dunno what made his time at Milan awful?
Well we typically like to play possession football. A team would clear the ball up the field and Laursen, in sixty yards of space, would struggle to control the ball so badly he'd be closed down on the brink of being tackled by the time he made a dodgy pass to a team-mate in order to save his bacon. Incidents like that typified his time with us and he simply never performed while at the club.
I'm sure he wasn't helped by his limited first-team opportunities due to the presence of Nesta, Maldini et al and likely suffered knocks to his confidence in the same way Gourcuff did but I remember being extremely happy when we sold him to Aston Villa.
Well we typically like to play possession football. A team would clear the ball up the field and Laursen, in sixty yards of space, would struggle to control the ball so badly he'd be closed down on the brink of being tackled by the time he made a dodgy pass to a team-mate in order to save his bacon. Incidents like that typified his time with us and he simply never performed while at the club.
I'm sure he wasn't helped by his limited first-team opportunities due to the presence of Nesta, Maldini et al and likely suffered knocks to his confidence in the same way Gourcuff did but I remember being extremely happy when we sold him to Aston Villa.
Ok then, sounds like all three parties won with that deal then. Where did he get these injury problems I've heard he used to have then?
And with this central defender issue, do you think it will get addressed in January? You say you see Zapata as the guy you would like, can you see Milan going in for him, if not then why's that? Also do you think that's the only missing piece in the jigsaw and with Zapata you can win the scudetto, or do you think you already can or do you need Zapata and still more players?
Ok then, sounds like all three parties won with that deal then. Where did he get these injury problems I've heard he used to have then?/QUOTE]
It is possible he suffered a couple of knee injuries during his time with us but it went largely unnoticed due to the fact he wouldn't have played anyway.
And with this central defender issue, do you think it will get addressed in January? You say you see Zapata as the guy you would like, can you see Milan going in for him, if not then why's that? Also do you think that's the only missing piece in the jigsaw and with Zapata you can win the scudetto, or do you think you already can or do you need Zapata and still more players?
I don't think we'll ever get Zapata. He "costs too much" so the cheaper option would be Thiago Silva but we face competition even there and surely won't sign anyone until next summer as Udinese wouldn't be willing to let Zapata go and in the case of Thiago Silva, we can't sign any non-EU players from abroad until June.
Zambrotta hasn't delivered what we hoped, making our decision to loan out Oddo a bit worrying despite his inconsistency. We also need a new left-back - Jankulovski is good but has no decent competition. The only other change we'd really need is a top class goalkeeper and, if we're really pushing the boat out, a true target man like Vincenzo Iaquinta. A slightly switch in our style of play wouldn't go amiss either, along with dropping Emerson for good.
Sweey your thoughts on Pirlo.
Sweey your thoughts on Pirlo.
Rather creative. Inconsistent tackling (sometimes great, other times not so). Inconsistent free-kicks (sometimes brilliant, other times absolutely no imagination and frankly disgusting). Can't often dominate a game. Lacklusture defensive capabilities. Absolutely atrocious when tired late in the season or not fully fit. A bit slow - something which doesn't bother me TOO much though it'd help if he was stronger.
EDIT: Generally excellent vision and good passing.
Do you think we bought players to help the players that are already with the club? I can't think of anyone who can play with Pirlo or with Kaka and look comfortable.
Do you think we bought players to help the players that are already with the club? I can't think of anyone who can play with Pirlo or with Kaka and look comfortable.
I don't think we thought many of our signings through to be honest. Borriello we did as he's a different sort of striker but even before we signed him, I said he'd be the cheap option and he was - plus he is suffering with too many injury problems. Shevchenko was brought back because of who he is, Ronaldinho was brought in because of the merchandise factor and Antonini was brought in because he was dirt cheap and co-owned. Zambrotta was signed two years too late although he has shown flashes of brilliance now and then and Abbiati refused to leave so we couldn't sign a goalkeeper. Oh and then there's Senderos who I'd rather not speak of. The purchases of Flamini, Viudez and Cardacio are the only ones I'm happy with.
The lack of thought is evident in our failure to secure a central defender of even decent quality.
I don't watch Viudez plays regularly but I heard he's good. What do you think of him Sweey?
I don't watch Viudez plays regularly but I heard he's good. What do you think of him Sweey?
He'll bring something different to our attacking play if he ever ends up representing us on a regular basis. It was obvious in pre-season he had things in his game he needed to work on but the talent is there.
Meyyappan
06-12-2008, 13:37
Rather creative. Inconsistent tackling (sometimes great, other times not so). Inconsistent free-kicks (sometimes brilliant, other times absolutely no imagination and frankly disgusting). Can't often dominate a game. Lacklusture defensive capabilities. Absolutely atrocious when tired late in the season or not fully fit. A bit slow - something which doesn't bother me TOO much though it'd help if he was stronger.
EDIT: Generally excellent vision and good passing.
Who is better at the moment Cesc or pirlo?
And do you think Cesc has the same talent compared to the likes of rooney,ronaldo and messi.
Who is better at the moment Cesc or pirlo?
Pirlo has just been out for two months with injury so there's no contest.
And do you think Cesc has the same talent compared to the likes of rooney,ronaldo and messi.
Your question is far too open.
Why are you putting Rooney and Fabregas in the same bracket as Messi in any case? Whilst the first two are very good players, Messi is something else.
Meyyappan
06-12-2008, 13:57
Yeah the messi thing i agree with
Billy Minof
06-12-2008, 14:36
Your question is far too open.
Why are you putting Rooney and Fabregas in the same bracket as Messi in any case? Whilst the first two are very good players, Messi is something else.
Plus everyone of them play in different positions.
Players called up for tomorrow's home game with Catania:
Goalkeepers Abbiati, Dida
Defenders Antonini, De Vito (n.53), Favalli, Jankulovski, Kaladze, Maldini, Senderos, Zambrotta
Midfielders Cardacio, Emerson, Flamini, Gattuso, Pedrocchi (n.52), Kakà
Forwards Pato, Shevchenko, Viudez (n.20).
Unavailable Bonera, Nesta, Ambrosini, Pirlo, Borriello, Inzaghi, Seedorf, Ronaldinho.
Oh dear. I'd love to see Viudez feature for half an hour or so.
The unavailable list is hilarious.
I would like to see Senderos start. I'm yet to see him over here and would like to judge him on his performance.
The unavailable list is hilarious.
I would like to see Senderos start. I'm yet to see him over here and would like to judge him on his performance.
Believe me when I tell you that you don't want him to start. You really need to trust me on this one because if he does, you'll regret it. Midfield is a concern - three regulars, Emerson and two players Ancelotti won't trust enough to use much if at all.
mufcsean
06-12-2008, 23:40
Did I hear right? Burlesconi is bringing out a christmas album?
The plan is to release a CD of 14 love songs he wrote and started recording in August.
Nice to see he's got his priorities in order :rolleyes:
Would you be getting one, Sweey?
mufcsean
07-12-2008, 02:13
The plan is to release a CD of 14 love songs he wrote and started recording in August.
Nice to see he's got his priorities in order :rolleyes:
:chanlaugh:
Maybe he is hoping it will be a huge success and will fund some young talent :lol:
I see Emerson in midfield and Sheva with Pato and Kaka behind. Do me a favor Milan and win.
Well we're certainly getting chances as the Catania defence looks a bit open. Doesn't mean we'll score but it is encouraging for a change.
Need to watch Mascara at the other end though.
Flamini and Emerson are missing in action. Sheva can't place a ball. Kaka and Pato look like they want a win. Gattuso looks impressive and it's just a matter of time for us to go down a goal. You know...
Yep I can see it all clearly. I was hopeful when Emerson hurt his back. Cardacio is only going to get better with time. Viudez for the last 20 minutes looks a distinct possibility, especially if Shevchenko fails to improve.
Milan striker Marco Borriello is said to be "hurt" after girlfriend Belen Rodriguez told a reality TV show he "fundamentally lacks intelligence". (Observer)
http://i33.tinypic.com/33kxhz5.jpg
Wonder why hes still going out with her.
Yesssssss. 1-0
Pato freekick moments ago was great same with the save.
Bizzarri had made four or five excellent saves before that. Looks like it took a touch off the Catania defender as opposed to Shevchenko from Kaka's header.
EDIT: Magnificent play between Kaka and Pato just now!
EDIT 2: Have to be concerned by just how much more dynamic we've been in attack at times today due to Ronaldinho's absence - and Pirlo's. Gattuso's passing ability has come on leaps and bounds over the summer. His ability to slide balls through is brilliant now.
My goodness. I thought Flamini's shot was curling in. We putting loads of pressure. I'm enjoying it.
Edit: Very true about our attack today Sweey. If only sheva was in form.
http://i33.tinypic.com/33kxhz5.jpg
Wonder why hes still going out with her.
:lol: What did she expect from a football player?
Lucky in the end - should have been an injury time penalty from Catania. Why must Kaladze defend with his arms out wide? We collapse after going ahead which really isn't good.
Well, three points and lessons to learn. Juventus away next Sunday night, then Udinese (who are in freefall) at home followed by Roma and Fiorentina in January.
Gattuso's passing ability has come on leaps and bounds over the summer. His ability to slide balls through is brilliant now.
You know what that means. Pirlo will be on his way out. :lol:
Good result. Almost had a heart attack with Kaladze's handball, but good result. Pato looks great with Kaka at times.
Gattuso got a yellow today. Will miss the Juve game.:crymore:
I believe that was Gattuso's third yellow meaning his next one will result in one-match ban.
Oh thank god. I'm worried of our line up vs Juve. I like what I saw today.
7/12, 4:03:
Oh thank god. I'm worried of our line up vs Juve. I like what I saw today.
Ronaldinho and Pirlo will surely be back :huh:
7/12, 7:33:
Calzone: A correction, Gattuso is suspended for Juventus.
8/12, 9:43:
Not sure if anyone heard about this over the weekend but we're interested in re-signing Ronaldo at some point due to our lack of penetration in attack.
That would surely be the end for Shevchenko.
What the deal with Shevchenko? Is he on loan or is he your player?
What's the point of Ronaldo? He's only going to get injured again. It's sad, but true.
What the deal with Shevchenko? Is he on loan or is he your player?
According to Berlusconi he's ours and he wasn't expensive. I have no idea what shady deal our clubs agreed to.
What's the point of Ronaldo? He's only going to get injured again. It's sad, but true.
So very true. Still, in five appearances he'll do more than Shevchenko in thirty.
Like most Milan fans said in the summer: Alberto Paloschi was the future and we should be utterly ashamed of ourselves for allowing him to join Parma in a co-ownership deal.
I remember our pre-season game in Moscow. Ancelotti opted playing Ambrosini up front and left Paloschi on the bench. You could tell from then that he'd struggle to have a future at Milan.
I remember our pre-season game in Moscow. Ancelotti opted playing Ambrosini up front and left Paloschi on the bench. You could tell from then that he'd struggle to have a future at Milan.
Yep because he's talented, young and Italian. We'll play shit young Italians like Antonini or talented youngsters from abroad like Pato but not talented young Italians.
I'd never want him at Milan but can you imagine what Wenger would do to our squad? You wouldn't recognise us in 12 months time. Actually, maybe you would as we've pissed all our cash away.
Gatusso...
http://www.goal.com/en/news/1708/ac-milan/2008/12/09/1004096/breaking-news-rino-gattuso-out-for-the-rest-of-season
Judging by the recent posts from Sweey and Calzone, you'd have to say that it is a huge blow to lose Gattuso right now.
Noooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He tore Heerenveen apart with his passes, that is for sure. Though that game wasn't a benchmark, Emerson was fantastic and the commentator blew his load every time he passed the leather to someone else.
He tore Heerenveen apart with his passes, that is for sure. Though that game wasn't a benchmark, Emerson was fantastic and the commentator blew his load every time he passed the leather to someone else.
First time for everything.
Gattuso has looked so much more assured with his passing this season and done well. It plays into the hands of Flamini who will simply have to perform now as we'll need him. Also gives Cardacio more chances to play.
First time for everything.
Gattuso has looked so much more assured with his passing this season and done well. It plays into the hands of Flamini who will simply have to perform now as we'll need him. Also gives Cardacio more chances to play.
My goodness. Gattuso.
I'd hope it gives Cardacio more play, but I doubt it. Anncilotti is nervous wreck and him trying something new is a no no. :no:
jedifunk
10-12-2008, 15:20
apparently we are looking at Agger..
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/8921718/Milan-confirm-interest-in-Agger
thoughts?
we're now saying we're looking at a couple people for the defense. its about time that we noticed we needed help in defense
12/11 @ 8:51
what about alex? i just read he wants to leave chelsea in january... perhaps we can send sheva back in exchange for alex.
i think he'd be a good addition... especially in light of our situation. thoughts?
Gattuso says he'll be back before the UEFA cup final.
jedifunk, Alex and Thiago Silva would be good - particularly the former.
As for Gattuso: he needs to accept that we won't be involved in the UEFA Cup final.
jedifunk
12-12-2008, 00:39
sweey... thoughts on agger? good pickup? he's young, and pretty good IMO
I believe Agger will be Martin Laursen all over again, albeit perhaps a slightly better version as I struggle to believe anyone can be quite as bad as Laursen was.
Billy Minof
12-12-2008, 09:39
I believe Agger will be Martin Laursen all over again, albeit perhaps a slightly better version as I struggle to believe anyone can be quite as bad as Laursen was.
I presume you are talking about Injury wise? Laursen is a very good CB, maybe not suited to Seria A but he is doing quiet well in the EPL, Agger is a good CB who can pass a ball and can score goals aswell as being a good defender, would be a good player for any squad.
I presume you are talking about Injury wise? Laursen is a very good CB, maybe not suited to Seria A but he is doing quiet well in the EPL, Agger is a good CB who can pass a ball and can score goals aswell as being a good defender, would be a good player for any squad.
He was a joke of a player at Milan.
We are supposedly signing Thiago Silva on Sunday though he can't play for us until next season due to non-EU player restrictions.
jedifunk
12-12-2008, 16:09
well then, what good is it? we need help NOW. we still have a shot at the scudetto and uefa cup.. lots to play for... why look to next year?
grrrr...
well then, what good is it? we need help NOW. we still have a shot at the scudetto and uefa cup.. lots to play for... why look to next year?
grrrr...
If we also get Alex in January, we're heading in the right direction. Seems hugely unlikely but we have to hope. We are also in need of a left wing-back next summer as Antonini is of poor quality. Oddo and Zambrotta should be enough to cover the right wing-back slots next summer though neither is at their peak any longer. A goalkeeper is necessary as I don't really trust Abbiati.
jedifunk
12-12-2008, 21:05
left wingback... so jankulovski is done? he may not be the best ever, but i think he's pretty serviceable.
seems to me that center back is more the area of concern. but i agree, that alex is probably not a realistic target
left wingback... so jankulovski is done? he may not be the best ever, but i think he's pretty serviceable.
seems to me that center back is more the area of concern. but i agree, that alex is probably not a realistic target
Jankulovski doesn't look himself this season and does get injured now and then. Our backup of Antonini and Favalli is...well it isn't great is it?
jedifunk
12-12-2008, 22:28
agreed that the alternative is not great... i take it you don't see antonini developing? he's still fairly young (26)...
i know its not a great source, but i saw this
He currently plays as a full back player for AC Milan and is regarded as a promising talent to help the Italian giants for their scudetto ambitions.
There has been discussion that Luca may be given a national team call-up because of his excellent performances for Milan.
edit: also what about darmian and/or digao for our future? both are young, and seem as though they could develop
also, who do you think we should pursue to put in goal?
this is beginning to sound like an interrogation man, Don, Dont give in to his questions!!
But on topic, gutted that gattuso is out, hes almost my favourite player...below pirlo lol
also what is the Scudetto??
agreed that the alternative is not great... i take it you don't see antonini developing? he's still fairly young (26)...
i know its not a great source, but i saw this
I'd be appalled if he got an Italy call-up. His performances have been average at best all season and although Italy is typical for players becoming good overnight - something the clubs could see but fans couldn't - I don't believe he'll prove me wrong. The fact remains we kept him because of a lack of money. That doesn't fill me with confidence.
edit: also what about darmian and/or digao for our future? both are young, and seem as though they could develop
Digao looks pretty poor. Darmian is supposed to be an excellent prospect but will we ever give him a true chance to impress and grow?
also, who do you think we should pursue to put in goal?
I want Frey but its never going to happen.
this is beginning to sound like an interrogation man, Don, Dont give in to his questions!!
But on topic, gutted that gattuso is out, hes almost my favourite player...below pirlo lol
also what is the Scudetto??
Lo Scudetto is the Italian league title.
I do not want tomorrow to come.
13/12:
I do not want tomorrow to come.
Tomorrow, our title challenge is pretty much over. Inter will lead us by nine points, maybe eight. The fact is, they're not playing well but they're getting results. We've hit a brick wall and have too many injuries.
14/12:
Kaka is a confirmed absence.
Juventus: Manninger; Grygera, Mellberg, Chiellini, Molinaro; Marchionni, Sissoko, Marchisio, Nedved; Del Piero, Amauri.
Milan: Abbiati; Zambrotta, Maldini, Kaladze, Jankulovski; Ambrosini, Emerson, Pirlo; Seedorf, Ronaldinho; Pato.
Fucking Emerson AGAIN! :realmad:
Hahaha.
Whats with Kaka. Him and Pato looked great together last game. Is this Ronaldinho's doing? :angry:
Edit: Fucking shit PK.
We likely won't come back from this.
EDIT: How did Ambrosini miss??! :faceplm:
19:57
Nice to see Ronaldinho has adjusted to the pace of counter-attacking in Serie A :rolleyes:
20:01
I hope everyone watching the game can now fully understand why I say we need a new left wing-back of quality.
20:03
Equaliser!! Great work from Kaladze to win the ball back and set the move up.
Patoooooo. We look great after conceding.
Janku is drunk.
Edit: Come on 2-1 down
20:06
Fucking awful defending!!
20:14
More awful defending! Honestly, this is ridiculous.
Pirlos poor pass intercepted with Amuri unmarked in the box means goal for juve. Great Sunday.
20:16
Ancelotti must be concerned about his future. We're falling apart at this stage of the season.
As for Pirlo, we need to cash in on him fast.
20:18
Oh for fucks sake Emerson! :faceplm:
Emerson makes great threatening passes. Seriously, Milan is really driving me nuts.
jedifunk
14-12-2008, 20:25
ok, so its agreed now... janku HAS to GO! he's been terrible in this first half. our defense it terrible today.
we looked so good after the penalty, got the equalizer, and have been shit since then.
the scudetto is gone today i'd have to say... we need to play for the champs league now, and even that looks tough now... napoli is impressive, and with juve & inter decidedly better than us, we'll be hard pressed to finish top 4...
too many injuries, bad defense = lucky to finish top 4
I don't think janku has to go, but competition for his postion would be nice. I think Sweey said that once.
jedifunk
14-12-2008, 20:38
yeah, i guess thats what i meant.
and my goodness, i just realized how many players we're actually missing... almost an entire other squad!
well, at least emerson is off
20:44
Worryingly though, Juventus are without Buffon, Andrade, Zebina (a blessing in disguise), Poulsen, Tiago, Camoranesi and Trezeguet. The depth of their squad is vastly superior to ours.
20:46
Manninger looked like one of our goalkeepers just then! 3-2 but I'm not getting carried away.
20:44
Worryingly though, Juventus are without Buffon, Andrade, Zebina (a blessing in disguise), Poulsen, Tiago, Camoranesi and Trezeguet. The depth of their squad is vastly superior to ours.
20:46
Manninger looked like one of our goalkeepers just then! 3-2 but I'm not getting carried away.
I thought Andrade was no longer a Juventus player?
20:54
I thought Andrade was no longer a Juventus player?
There's some ridiculously conflicting reports on the issue. Plus his inclusion helps me highlight how shit we are.
Well done Zambrotta - idiot :faceplm:
20:58
Excellent goal. Juventus goal as if that wasn't obvious.
21:00
Can't believe Del Piero hit the post, looked a certain 5-2.
I tried not posting to see if we would do some luck and it doesn't work. Frustration is at a max here. January transfer period needs to come now.
Calzone, the January transfer window won't fix anything. We can't get anyone of the quality required.
20:54
There's some ridiculously conflicting reports on the issue. Plus his inclusion helps me highlight how shit we are.
I see. Some portuguese newspapers wrote that he was a free agent now, so I thought Juventus have released him.
I just saw Juventus second goal, shocking defending by Milan there.
Jake Small
14-12-2008, 21:29
Milan thoughts:
Shev looks old and tired, his reactions and his ideas and his touches are not synched up with one another at all. Out of sorts for sure, I thought maybe going back to Milan by now he'd have found a rhythm but not yet (ever again??)
Milan had MANY MANY misplaced passes.. I'm not sure why, whether it's just poor passing or the new players and the team in general being kind of out of synch with each others' ideas.. probably a number of factors.
Ronaldinho I liked, but - and it's a cliche of course but here i think it applies- you can tell he's used to playing in the Spanish league. His ideas are very ambitious and aggressive, like he's used to playing a 'final ball', but here they are often NOT final balls... even with an incisive through ball from him, there is still one more defender to beat, or more defensive cover in general, and he doesn't seem used to that this year, and I am not sure he's suited yet to slow unlocking type of play that Milan's playstyle sometimes requires.
Still think he's class though and he'll come good.
Pato didn't play all that great I thought, but again, maybe a case of not synching up.
Seedorf is the one attacker that looked like he knows what he's doing :\
Calzone, the January transfer window won't fix anything. We can't get anyone of the quality required.
I thought we are signing a defender in January.
"In January we will sign a defender, there's no doubt about it," ... "We have a list of three or four players who could be useful in defence and Agger is one of them. In January we'll sign one of them" -Adriano Gallaini
Who are the others?
mufcsean
14-12-2008, 23:15
Alex, Thiago Silva & ?
Alex or Agger would been great. Don't know much of Thiago Silva.
I thought we are signing a defender in January.
"In January we will sign a defender, there's no doubt about it," ... "We have a list of three or four players who could be useful in defence and Agger is one of them. In January we'll sign one of them" -Adriano Gallaini
Who are the others?
Firstly, you should know better than to listen to Galliani by now.
Secondly, we're signing Thiago Silva this week and he'll join us in January but can't play until next summer. Considering Thiago Silva is £9m, we don't have much to spend. Whilst Agger and Alex remain possibilities, albeit Alex is a diminished one due to Chelsea's reluctance to sell him, I believe Agger will prove to be a poor acquisition.
jedifunk
15-12-2008, 00:49
i read today that silva was bought by inter... any truth to that?
mufcsean
15-12-2008, 00:58
From Wikipedia
Thiago Emiliano da Silva, or simply Thiago Silva (September 22, 1984), is a Brazilian central defender currently a free agent due to join AC Milan[1]. He's considered one of the best defenders ever in Brazil, and a new generation idol for brazilian footbal and specially for Fluminense fans.
From Sky Sports
AC Milan have beaten a host of clubs to the signing of Brazilian defender Thiago Silva.
Chelsea and city rivals Inter Milan were also keen on the 22-year-old, but Milan have now to sealed a deal.
The player's agent has confirmed that the Brazil international would be signing his contract at the San Siro within the next few weeks.
"Thiago Silva will be signing his contract at Milan once he gets through his medical exams that will be done next week," said his agent Paulo Tonieto
The player's current club Fluminense had hoped they could keep the player on loan - but Tonieto admitted this was not going to happen.
"There is no chance to have Thiago Silva loaned back to Fluminense because the president of Milan doesn't want that," he said.
Thiago does not qualify for an EU passport so Tonieto admitted he could be forced to train with Milan's B team until the summer.
"There are two chances for Thiago, either he gets a place in the team because a player gets transferred or he will train with the B team until June 2009 when he will be able to be brought into the squad," he said.
Milan confirmation
Milan chief Adriano Galliani confirmed the deal for Thiago was in place.
"The affair has arrived at a really good point," he told Sky Italia.
"The player will be in Milan on Sunday, and on Monday he will undergo medicals.
"Should everything go positively, we will define the contract."
i read today that silva was bought by inter... any truth to that?
Don't do that to me. Should it happen I think we can officialy claim to be past it.
He is due to undergo his medical with us today.
jedifunk
15-12-2008, 17:51
i did read that yesterday, but now i cant find it...
6:58
I've had a terrifying thought:
I believed Emerson was substituted at half-time against Juventus because Ancelotti realised how useless he is. But what if Ancelotti only took him off because he's starting against Wolfsburg tonight and didn't want Emerson to be tired? Dear lord...I get my answer in the next few minutes.
7:16
No Emerson :>
MILAN: Dida: Antonini, Senderos, Favalli, Jankulovski; Zambrotta, Pirlo, Ambrosini; Seedorf; Inzaghi, Shevchenko.
WOLFSBURG: Benaglio; Zaccardo, Ricardo Costa, Barzagli, Schafer; Hasebe, Josuè; Dejagah, Misimovic, Gentner; Dzeko.
7:52
New poll added. As for the last poll, regarding our top goalscorer for the season, Shevchenko got 7 votes (:faceplm:) and Pato got 5. The others were way back.
jedifunk
17-12-2008, 20:48
senderos off because of injury? typical...
as for the poll, i don't know if there is an answer for that...
Senderos needs to be shipped back off to Arsenal.
jedifunk
17-12-2008, 21:05
what is going on here? what formation are we playing? a 5-2-3?
and 2 goals in the same minute?
Pato with the goal...I think we're playing Zambrotta in midfield so 4-3-3.
jedifunk
17-12-2008, 21:08
gotcha... pirlo off for tactics? or injury? if tactics, has ancelotti finally woken up and started to try new things?
wish i was watching the match
gotcha... pirlo off for tactics? or injury? if tactics, has ancelotti finally woken up and started to try new things?
wish i was watching the match
You know, I think Pato might (and I'm not watching) be playing as some sort of playmaker. No news on why Pirlo is off but it was a half-time substitution so possibly tactical. He's not fully fit yet anyway.
Is Senderos ok?, somebody help him!!! :crymore:
Is Senderos ok?, somebody help him!!! :crymore:
He won't be if he doesn't leave soon. You can take my word for that.
EDIT: Senderos has a back injury. I believe this is his fifth injury since joining us. Maybe only his fourth if he's lucky.
EDIT 2: It finished 2-2 so we're playing either Bordeaux (Gourcuff to knock us out anyone?), Werder Bremen, Shakhtar Donetsk, Marseille, Aalborg, Fiorentina (they who took our fourth place and twatted up the CL but would arrive with a revitalised Gilardino who has a point to prove :faceplm:), Dynamo Kiev or Zenit St Petersburg in the next round.
Oh dear in some of those instances.
jedifunk
17-12-2008, 21:43
a draw... acceptable? not imo
a draw... acceptable? not imo
No. Not at home.
I believe 2nd place is the worst place to finish in these groups. Zenit, Kiev, Bremen, Shakhtar all worth avoiding in my opinion. Still, saying that, I'd expect Milan to be just too strong over two legs.
I believe 2nd place is the worst place to finish in these groups. Zenit, Kiev, Bremen, Shakhtar all worth avoiding in my opinion. Still, saying that, I'd expect Milan to be just too strong over two legs.
You're on your own thinking we'll be strong enough. I desperately wanted to avoid second place as I'd fully expect a team like Zenit, for example, to punish us with their pace and power.
You're on your own thinking we'll be strong enough. I desperately wanted to avoid second place as I'd fully expect a team like Zenit, for example, to punish us with their pace and power.
Even if you did draw Zenit, Arshavin will have left by then. That will affect there team hugely.
Haven't seen the game. From some posts I guess it is a good thing.
Who do you think is the most impressive player at Milan so far TheBishop?
Even if you did draw Zenit, Arshavin will have left by then. That will affect there team hugely.
Zenit isn't a one-man team. There are still great individuals other than Arshavin like Tymoshcuk and Pogrebnyak, who are both brilliant.
Yeah thats true Wan, but you cant overlook team morale n all that man
He is their most famous player without a doubt, and when you lose that figurehead, it can affect you greatly
But oh dear if milan get zenit lol
Would you keep a player who has lost his motivation? If he's unhappy there at Zenit, he should move. Surely the team morale will go down a bit, but give some time and it will all go normal.
For example, Arsenal. Henry is their best player at that time, who has moved to Barcelona. People and press always said that they will not play at their best last season without the presence of Henry. Look what happened, they played good football even without their then captain.
Who do you think is the most impressive player at Milan so far TheBishop?
Better not be Senderos :|
Better not be Senderos :|
:shifty:
I haven't seen as much as I've liked, so it's not an educated view, but from what I have seen I'll say Flamini. He gets on with his job quietly and effectively, just like he did at Arsenal. Maybe Seedorf is worth a shout too?
:shifty:
I haven't seen as much as I've liked, so it's not an educated view, but from what I have seen I'll say Flamini. He gets on with his job quietly and effectively, just like he did at Arsenal. Maybe Seedorf is worth a shout too?
The only pitfall is that Flamini is part of our second-string side - he plays in the UEFA Cup but has made only three Serie A starts. Seedorf is a decent shout.
There's only one for me though.
Mjällharth
18-12-2008, 11:20
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/18122008/58/cafu-sign-non-league-garforth.html
:faceplm: Of all the teams in the world, why pick an English non-league team?
Because of Simon Clifford? :erm:
Mjällharth
18-12-2008, 11:30
:faceplm: I should learn to read :faceplm:
Cannon ball
18-12-2008, 21:47
Zenit isn't a one-man team. There are still great individuals other than Arshavin like Tymoshcuk and Pogrebnyak, who are both brilliant.
Don't forget Danny.
Original?
18-12-2008, 21:57
Abbiati, though it may be in comparison to Nelson...
mufcsean
19-12-2008, 00:11
I only saw a few games and Gattuso was playing well then so i've gone for him
jedifunk
19-12-2008, 02:16
i also voted gattuso... he's been incredible this season, especially in comparison to last year.
his passing and vision really improved... its a drastic loss for milan
Don't forget Danny.
Can't believe I forgot him, he's brilliant.
Yeah, Danny is top class. Dick Advocaat must've known, otherwise he wouldn't have splashed that 20m or so on him. Not sure how he rates against the likes of Diego though. Danny is definately one for the future; he already is top class and there's plenty more to come. The future's bright for Zenit.
I predict Werder Bremen, Zenit or Bordeaux with the likeliness in that order. We can't get Fiorentina - probably a blessing.
I predict Werder Bremen, Zenit or Bordeaux with the likeliness in that order. We can't get Fiorentina - probably a blessing.
:w00t
Should be 2 really good games. Bremen don't know how to do 0-0's.
:w00t
Should be 2 really good games. Bremen don't know how to do 0-0's.
Nor does our defence!
Looking at this in the cold light of a Milan morning - yeah if only I was - Werder Bremen are struggling this season and their failure to go further in the CL was absolutely no surprise to me. I believe I even predicted it in the appropriate thread at the start of the competition. To that end, an open Werder Bremen struggling for form are coming up against a defenceless Milan struggling for form so it isn't as bad as it could have been for us - or them.
They won't learn to defend by the time we play them, I only hope we do.
jedifunk
19-12-2008, 15:07
i'd have to say, there are few other draws that would have been tougher for us... seriously, this will be a most serious challenge.
hopefully by february we'll be a bit more healthy and we'll have found our groove again... if the matches were this weekend we'd have no chance. and the draw in the round of 16 is much more favorable if we can advance.
Beckham is coming to you lot and you'll find your groove again. :ninja:
Haha. I'm looking forward to seeing how he plays and whether he starts many games or not. He'll definately add some width to your team.
Maybe you could play the diamond midfield, have Becks wide on the right and then a lone striker?
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jedifunk
19-12-2008, 17:41
when it was first announce, my thought was that he would have a difficult time even getting into the top 11... but now, with all our injuries he may actually get playing time, and a start or two.
as for formation, my guess is that he'll not play an advanced role... probably a RMF. we'll probably still stick to our 4-3-2-1 or 4-3-1-2 formations, and he'll sit in that SMF role.
the better questions are whether or not we'll sign a CB or SB, and who that will be. i know we've agreed with silva, but as stated, he's not available this year. hopefully we can pull some magic and grab agger or alex.
I highly doubt Agger and/or Alex would leave the England League to join a team who aren't in the Champions League :tongue::lol:
A player like Agger or Alex is what you need, I wouldn't regard them as realistic targets.
I highly doubt Agger and/or Alex would leave the England League to join a team who aren't in the Champions League :tongue::lol:.
We're a big enough club for them to do so. As are the likes of Real Madrid, Barcelona, Manchester United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Inter Milan, Juventus and as they proved last season, Bayern Munich.
Haha. I'm looking forward to seeing how he plays and whether he starts many games or not. He'll definately add some width to your team.
Maybe you could play the diamond midfield, have Becks wide on the right and then a lone striker?
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That's fucking ridiculous to be honest. Move Kaka back to have Beckham advanced? Move Ronaldinho back to have Beckham advanced? I think not. He'll be told to play in Gattuso's position which is slightly to the right of Pirlo and a tad further forward than him but not as advanced as Seedorf who is behind Kaka, Ronaldinho and a striker. Why would anyone put a 33-year-old player more interested in earning money than playing in a competitive league ahead of the interests of two former World Players of the Year, both of whom are significantly younger and one of which (Kaka) runs our attack?
when it was first announce, my thought was that he would have a difficult time even getting into the top 11... but now, with all our injuries he may actually get playing time, and a start or two.
as for formation, my guess is that he'll not play an advanced role... probably a RMF. we'll probably still stick to our 4-3-2-1 or 4-3-1-2 formations, and he'll sit in that SMF role.
the better questions are whether or not we'll sign a CB or SB, and who that will be. i know we've agreed with silva, but as stated, he's not available this year. hopefully we can pull some magic and grab agger or alex.
We've "bid" for Alex.
Hmm yeah, we'll see whether AC return to the Premier European Competition or not. Obviously they can't be considered one of the top teams in Europe, not while they're in the Uefa Cup anyway.
Hmm yeah, we'll see whether AC return to the Premier European Competition or not. Obviously they can't be considered one of the top teams in Europe, not while they're in the Uefa Cup anyway.
That's silly. We remain one of the biggest in Europe. Look at Bayern: players like Ribery and Toni wanted to be a part of the team that propelled them back to the CL. You're being more than bit disrespectful to a club, in all honesty, bigger than the one you support. Anyone who argues that point is crazy. We're clearly not doing well at the moment and your squad is better than ours - a lot are - but it doesn't suddenly stop us from being a top club.
Good point. I respect your club. I just wasn't sure whether Alex or Agger would leave their club for Milan. They seem happy enough at their respective clubs, and they're starting regularly. I didn't mean to start an argument though. I apologise if I am/have.
nickpring
19-12-2008, 18:16
Good point. I respect your club. I just wasn't sure whether Alex or Agger would leave their club for Milan. They seem happy enough at their respective clubs, and they're starting regularly. I didn't mean to start an argument though. I apologise if I am/have.
Alex isn't happy at Chelsea, and has handed in a transfer request, so there's every chance he'd move to Milan.
Good point. I respect your club. I just wasn't sure whether Alex or Agger would leave their club for Milan. They seem happy enough at their respective clubs, and they're starting regularly. I didn't mean to start an argument though. I apologise if I am/have.
Debating is good, you shouldn't apologise. You're stating what you think, I'm stating what I think and backing it up with various elements. You're not being a total dick about it.
The likes of Messi and Ronaldo wouldn't join Milan - they would demand CL football. Players like Alex and Agger would be willing to drop down for half a season or perhaps a tad longer so long as the club return to the CL fairly quickly and they'd be happy to work for the club in order to achieve that. Either would be virtually guaranteed a starting place at Milan which is another factor.
If we fail to achieve CL qualification this season it would be a big blow. If it happened again next season, it would begin to impact on our status though the pull of the lub - again the case with the likes of Barcelona etc. - would remain for a number of top players, albeit a reduced number.
We've "bid" for Alex.
I bet you get him on the cheap as well. Would be typical Milan and typical Chelsea :angry:
If we fail to achieve CL qualification this season it would be a big blow
It would be a shock if we actually made it!
I bet you get him on the cheap as well. Would be typical Milan and typical Chelsea :angry:
Yes please!
It would be a shock if we actually made it!
:chanlaugh: Forza Van Gaal :ninja:
Alex isn't happy at Chelsea, and has handed in a transfer request, so there's every chance he'd move to Milan.
Oh right. I was unaware he's unhappy at Chelsea :rolleyes: Maybe there is a chance he'll go to Milan. I would love it if Arsene signed Alex :lol: 0.0001% chance of it happening though, to be frank.
Original?
19-12-2008, 19:04
How you could do with Nesta rolling back the years... Alex would do your team a world of good but frankly I think the problems run far deeper than a dodgy backline, the whole squad needs a shake up and a lot more competition. Uncle Fester and Ancelotti leaving and being replaced with an intelligent negotiator and a fresh tactician would do Milan a world of good.
How you could do with Nesta rolling back the years... Alex would do your team a world of good but frankly I think the problems run far deeper than a dodgy backline, the whole squad needs a shake up and a lot more competition. Uncle Fester and Ancelotti leaving and being replaced with an intelligent negotiator and a fresh tactician would do Milan a world of good.
Pierpaolo Marino from Napoli. The closest thing to Luciano Moggi in calcio.
As for Ancelotti, you are right for the most part. His lack of faith in youngsters continues to hinder us. I mean seriously...how many times does Emerson have to fuck up before he isn't brought on in every single match?
jedifunk
19-12-2008, 20:12
mmm, where to start... ok, alex is unhappy @ chelsea and might be attracted to another big club like milan... agger, well we've already stated our interest & desire of him, therefore i have to assume that we've at least talked to his agent, and that there is interest on both sides. so its not out of the realm of possibility...
you also have to look at the history of a club for its stature in world footballing... few clubs are bigger than milan, and its not out of the realm to talk that milan are THE biggest club in the world, i would certainly say in the top 5. so that history plays a factor in decisions for players, as they want to play for the big clubs with a rich history.
and in the case of both agger & alex, they would both be playing way more than they are now... with both having very good chances of making the top 11.
and if you asked around you'd get varying opinion, but its not a sure fire bet that the EPL is regarded as the best league in the world... i would still argue that la liga & serie a are just as good, especially top to bottom (there are some really shitty clubs in the EPL).
as for ancelotti... i personally think that he is still in the upper level of coaches. perhaps his message is wearing off at milan, but there are few coaches that we can get that are better. part of the problem as i see it is that milan is much like the yankees in baseball, they are expect to win & contend for trophies every year. there is no chance to "rebuild".. so they fall into the trap of overpaying for aging players... instead of taking a hit and letting the younger players develop.
I thought you guys done a deal for Thiago Silva? He's a good one.
jedifunk
19-12-2008, 20:28
yes, we'd agreed with silva, but he can't play for us this season... we're over the limit for non-italian players this season
I thought you guys done a deal for Thiago Silva? He's a good one.
He can't play until the summer even if he joins in January due to Italian laws about non-EU players. There's also been no actual confirmation.
yes, we'd agreed with silva, but he can't play for us this season... we're over the limit for non-italian players this season
You mean non-EU ;)
jedifunk
19-12-2008, 21:21
yeah, thats what i meant, but he's also not an italian either ;)
Alex and Thiago Silva would be a hell of a defence although I do hope Alex will not leave.
We got Bremen next. Oh my goodness.
Alberto Paloschi scored his third Serie B goal this season to give Parma a narrow win over Cittadella that puts them joint-top ahead of nine matches tomorrow. He's started eight league games and made nine substitute appearances so the return isn't good in over 770 minutes of action.
Original?
20-12-2008, 00:34
you also have to look at the history of a club for its stature in world footballing... few clubs are bigger than milan, and its not out of the realm to talk that milan are THE biggest club in the world, i would certainly say in the top 5. so that history plays a factor in decisions for players, as they want to play for the big clubs with a rich history.
You're not even the biggest club in Italy, forget about the world! ;)
You're not even the biggest club in Italy, forget about the world! ;)
Most successful Italian side in Europe :tongue:
jedifunk
20-12-2008, 01:17
You're not even the biggest club in Italy, forget about the world! ;)
i would say that history says otherwise... other than real madrid, milan has more international trophies that anyone else.
i think its a very debatable topic as to which club is the biggest in the world. and i don't mean who is the best at the moment, i mean biggest, as in biggest draw, most well known, richest history, etc...
milan is most definitely in that discussion
Original?
20-12-2008, 08:33
i would say that history says otherwise... other than real madrid, milan has more international trophies that anyone else.
i think its a very debatable topic as to which club is the biggest in the world. and i don't mean who is the best at the moment, i mean biggest, as in biggest draw, most well known, richest history, etc...
milan is most definitely in that discussion
It was a jibe about your lack of domestic success... compared to truly great Italian clubs... well club. ;)
http://msn.foxsports.com/id/8968900_18_1.jpg
:shocking:
:ohmy: 32 looks quite good actually.
jedifunk
20-12-2008, 21:46
ok, so we sit what... second in scudettos, but where are the euro trophies or international trophies for juve?
and i don't mind taking a good ribbing... i guess i tend to come across as a bit of a fanboy for milan, but whatevs... their my team, good or bad.
mufcsean
20-12-2008, 21:49
http://img.skysports.com/08/12/800x600/beckham_1659065.jpg
That looks great
I improved it:
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/5201/beckham1659065lu7.jpg
CaptainCabinet
20-12-2008, 21:59
:chanlaugh:
David Beckham has revealed he has missed playing football "at the highest level" after being presented as an AC Milan player.
Beckham has negotiated a three-month loan deal from Los Angeles Galaxy to the Serie A giants in a bid to remain match fit and stay in the thoughts of England manager Fabio Capello.
And the former England captain admitted that a move to Milan represented a move back into the mainstream.
"Moving to America was a big step for me because there were a lot of people who were criticising the move, but I still believe it was a move where I wanted to challenge myself and I was able to challenge myself in different ways," Beckham told a press conference in Milan.
"But I have always said that I would always miss playing at the highest level. I'm not saying that in America they won't get to the highest level - it will take time and it will happen - but with five months off during the season I personally can't do that.
"I needed to be able to be playing top-flight football to keep myself fit, to keep myself in contention for other things that are going on."
Beckham will be in the stands to watch his new team take on Udinese on Sunday
He will then join them at a training camp in Dubai and could make his debut when the Serie A season resumes with a trip to Roma on 11th January.
Incredible
The former Manchester United midfielder added: "I'm really happy to be here, it is a great honour. I hope to add to the team, I hope to give everything that I've always given in my career and it's a huge honour.
"To be able to have the chance to play for another one of the biggest clubs in the world...I've played for the biggest club in England, the biggest club in Spain and now I'm going to be playing for the biggest club in Italy.
"I've been very lucky in my career to have done that, and I'm just going to enjoy it because I think to be given this opportunity is incredible."
Beckham added he was delighted to join what is already a glittering array of talent in the Milan dressing room but insists he does not expect to be an automatic inclusion in coach Carlo Ancelotti's line-up.
He said: "I wouldn't have taken this opportunity if I didn't think I could help the team. It's not about anything else apart from the football. I've come here to play with some of the best players in the world.
"To be able to step on to the training field with Kaka, [Andrea] Pirlo, [Paolo] Maldini, Ronaldinho...there's so many players that I've always watched and played against but never played with.
"There's some great players out there and I don't expect to walk in on the first day and be starting in the team, it doesn't happen like that. I'm going work hard in training, I'm going to get my fitness - because I need to - and then once I'm fit, hopefully I can get some time in the team, and hopefully help."
LINK (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_4673811,00.html)
nickpring
20-12-2008, 23:28
:lol:
That's excellent, Sweey.
mufcsean
20-12-2008, 23:29
Just read the story on teletext, apparently they want a similar yet longer deal next year.
Napoli lost against Torino. Maybe we can get a win today, just maybe.
Napoli lost against Torino. Maybe we can get a win today, just maybe.
Because Lavezzi was suspended, idiots. Fiorenitna up to third now and we're fifth.
As for us getting a win today, Ancelotti told the media yesterday that Abbiati, Maldini, Jankulovski, Antonini, Kaladze, Favalli, Pato, Ronaldinho and Kaka are playing and most likely, starting.
Maldini - central defender or left-back
Jankulovski - left wing-back
Antonini - left wing-back
Kaladze - central defender or left-back
Favalli - left-back or makeshift central defender
Errr...clearly someone above is playing at right-back, my point being that none of them are particularly useful there.
Haha, yeah I understand. Me being a lefty I have confidance that one of them can play on the right. It's a lefty thing you wouldn't understand. :huh:
What was Lavezzi's suspension about that you called them idiots? You saying Napoli suspended him. :faceplm:
Haha, yeah I understand. Me being a lefty I have confidance that one of them can play on the right. It's a lefty thing you wouldn't understand. :huh:
What was Lavezzi's suspension about that you called them idiots? You saying Napoli suspended him. :faceplm:
No, that they can't function without him for one match away to shitty Torino. Hamsik was out with injury too.
Do Milan always play their matches in the evening???
Do Milan always play their matches in the evening???
Because of Ronaldinho, yes. The big games tend to be moved to a Saturday or Sunday night for TV coverage anyway but other matches would work on the basis of Sky Sport Italia (I believe it is them and not Rai) wanting maximum commercial exposure. They'll get a larger television audience with no other matches going on at the same time as opposed to this afternoon when Juventus, Roma, Fiorentina and Napoli were in action.
With the arrival of Beckham until early March, I would expect virtually all of our games to be on Saturday or Sunday evening.
Beckham's number 75? I'm looking to buy a shirt, but what is his number?
Beckham number 75? I'm looking to buy a shirt, but what is his number?
Er...number 32? Look at the posts from yesterday.
Er...number 32? Look at the posts from yesterday.
Yeah, I can't find a site that sells his jersey with number 32. I found one with 75. :faceplm:
Nevermind. I bought a blank one and custmized it for Beckham 32. Came out cheap to. :smug:
7:26
MILAN: Abbiati; Antonini, Maldini, Kaladze, Favalli; Seedorf, Pirlo, Jankulovski; Kakà, Ronaldinho; Pato.
Subs: Dida, Strasser, Darmian, Osuji, Cardacio, Shevchenko, Inzaghi.
UDINESE: Handanovic; Ferronetti, Sala, Domizzi, Lukovic; Inler, D'Agostino, Isla; Pepe, Quagliarella, Di Natale.
7:34
Patooooooooooooooo
Thought Favalli had screwed up that amazing chance to cross.
Pato again. I got the wrong jersey.
:chanlaugh: that you did.
Great to score immediately after conceding. We usually get that one the other way around. Just hope the defence can hold out for the rest of the game now and not drop us in shit.
Ronaldinho showing his old self. Kaka looks the worst of midfielders in form no?
Seedorf for 4-1! Pirlo with a good free-kick against the post.
Victoria Beckham needs to fuck off :realmad:
She looks like a man with the short hair. Becks must be into that.
jedifunk
21-12-2008, 20:42
are we really looking this impressive? or is udinese struggling that badly.
and i don't see how you think kaka looks bad today... he's been an attacking beast thus far imo. dinho has been absent if you ask me.
overall we look really really good today. even antonini
Fuck me we look good tonight! 5-1.
It must be partly down to Udinese's ridiculous form but at the same time, we're creating the chances they're allowing us to and taking advantage.
jedifunk
21-12-2008, 20:44
see kaka... very impressive!
edit: wow darmian! my first look @ him... lets see what happens
Strasser looks interesting.
jedifunk
21-12-2008, 21:23
ok so darmian showed nothing...
but yeah, strasser... where'd he come from? youth system? he looked very confident, and strong
He's an 18-year-old in our youth ranks, comes from Sierra Leone. I think we may have acquired him in the summer around the same time we got Viudez and Cardacio but don't quote me on that.
Strasser looks interesting.
It was very interesting seeing him play. Milan fans were really cheering behind him.
What a great win, everything I needed to feel great during a hang over. Extremely happy to see our youngsters get a run out.
Edit: Maldini looked great the second half. Antonini had a solid game. Some poor passes, but solid performance.
I hate to say it, but I do not want Sheva coming in anymore. Total waste.
Edit 2:Team: AC Milan
Current Position: 3rd
Where did you expect your team to currently be: Top four
Best player so far this season: Gennaro Gattuso although now he is injured, Pato and Paolo Maldini.
Worst player so far this season: Emerson!
Best game so far: In terms of meaning, the derby victory over Inter. Our best performance was probably the 5-1 win over Udinese tonight.
Worst game so far: The 3-1 defeat at Palermo. I felt utterly helpless watching that game. Much worse than the two defeats at the start of the season simply because this was a defeat suffered after we'd recovered brilliantly and should have been fully focused on the challenges ahead.
Who would you like to sign in January: Alex. If we can't get him, another central defender. We need more reinforcements but it isn't realistic to be wishing for them in January. I've heard we may get Stephen Appiah on a free transfer as cover for Gattuso and such a move wouldn't upset me. It'd hopefully keep Emerson well away from the pitch.
Who would you like to sell in January: Emerson except that no club with sense would sign that bag of Brazilian shite.
Thoughts on your manager so far this season: Still stuck in his ways. Hasn't been helped by injuries though was aided, regardless of his views on it, by Pirllo's absence. At least he acknowledges our clear defensive deficiencies.
General thoughts on your team so far: Worrying. The defence is an absolute nightmare. Whilst we went on a great run to hit top spot after losing our first two games and we also beat Udinese 5-1 tonight, its clear that we're nowhere near as strong as Inter or Juventus. We're not in the Champions League and yet look highly unlikely to contest Lo Scudetto due to an inferior squad. We've the real possibility of missing out on the Champions League next season if we don't get our act together pretty quickly as Fiorentina are on the up, Lavezzi isn't suspended every week for Napoli and Milito is getting enough chances to grab 30 league goals for Genoa this season which would surely see them close to the top four.
Where do you think you’ll finish from this point to the end of the season: 4th to 6th and failing to win the UEFA Cup.
Couldn't agree more. I'd also like to add Seedorf during Pirlo's injury absence as one of the best players this season yet. He has stepped his game up which was lovely to watch him adjust.
You know, I've just been reading about how Gattuso seriously considered a move to Bayern Munich last summer but how he was made to feel oh so important to the club by Adriano Galliani and now never wants to leave and I had to ask myself this: How many times has that exact situation, albeit with a different club, come up? I'm thinking four and its starting to grate. Either he doesn't have the conviction to leave or he really is that desperate to feel loved, renewing his die-hard love for the club for about 12 months.
David Beckham’s first serious training session with new club AC Milan in Dubai pushed the former England captain to his limits as he began his bid to prove to Fabio Capello that he is worthy of a place in the national team’s World cup plans.
The LA Galaxy midfielder, who has signed up with the Serie A side for three months during the MLS off season, was put through his paces during a training session at the squad’s winter camp in the Middle East.
Paolo Maldini spoke of Beckham being a “great champion” though he was shown to be in need of the work after being visibly out of breath after a series of shuttle runs and having his pulse checked by club medics at regular intervals.
AC Milan have one of the oldest squads in European football and their staff are skilled in prolonging the careers of the over 30s, something Beckham will be grateful for should he make the plane to South Africa in 2010, should England complete a likely qualification.
Milan will play a friendly match against Hamburg on Jan 6 though Beckham’s first action with the first team is earmarked for a Jan 11 league match in Italy against As Roma, fitness allowing.
Beckham’s physical conditioning was earlier praised by Milan’s club doctor Jean-Pierre Meerseeman, who predicted the former Manchester United and Real Madrid player could continue playing at the top level for another five or six seasons.
Source (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/davidbeckham/4075276/David-Beckham-feels-the-heat-in-Dubai-during-AC-Milan-training.html)
He can't make the 2010. He can't even run. Another 6 years? :lol:
I heard something about the taliban trying to kill Beckham in Milan. Any truth to this.
I heard something about the taliban trying to kill Beckham in Milan. Any truth to this.
You've answered your own question.
I have faith in Meersseman despite his nationality; Beckham could easily play for another 5 years. He can always rely on his right foot should the rest age quicker than expected.
Lucas Neill was in Dubai yesterday watching us train. Oh dear.
AgentZero
05-01-2009, 08:27
Never has a loan caused so much fuss.
I heard something about the taliban trying to kill Beckham in Milan. Any truth to this.
There was a rumour that Al Qaeda planned on taking him out in Dubai... :lol:
Billy Minof
05-01-2009, 13:15
He can't make the 2010. He can't even run. Another 6 years? :lol:
Its 2009 now dude, 2010 is next year not 6 years time.....anyway, he is still the best right sided player in England.....:faceplm:
There was a rumour that Al Qaeda planned on taking him out in Dubai... :lol:
I heard that Saddam could be back from the dead to exact his revenge on Becks....;)
We're moving on Agger. So we've learnt one lesson - don't keep going for players over 30 - but still go for the cheaper of the two younger offers. Reports suggest £7.35m for Agger..why not Alex for £10m?? We need a defender with strong aerial skills who ISN'T prone to stupid errors as Kaladze and Bonera have that skill filled perfectly.
We're moving on Agger. So we've learnt one lesson - don't keep going for players over 30 - but still go for the cheaper of the two younger offers. Reports suggest £7.35m for Agger..why not Alex for £10m?? We need a defender with strong aerial skills who ISN'T prone to stupid errors as Kaladze and Bonera have that skill filled perfectly.
As you said in the Chelsea thread a few days ago, go for both defenders. If you're short on cash, I'm sure Uncle Roman will help you out, as he seems to love you guys a lot :huh:
He probably trades wives with Berlusconi, when they meet in the Lodge, on the weekend. :lol:
Its 2009 now dude, 2010 is next year not 6 years time.....anyway, he is still the best right sided player in England.....:faceplm:
I meant the FIFA World Cup. A Milan doctor said he's so fit and he can play for another 6 years but now he's out of breath.
We've "offered a pre-contract to Jermaine Pennant". WHA?T! :realmad:
Billy Minof
06-01-2009, 10:23
We've "offered a pre-contract to Jermaine Pennant". WHA?T! :realmad:
Hopefully it does not spring us into action, he refused to join us because we wouldnt give him 80k a week...how much are ye giving him. :erm:
Hopefully it does not spring us into action, he refused to join us because we wouldnt give him 80k a week...how much are ye giving him. :erm:
No idea whatsoever but we can't afford £80,000 per week so it'll be nowhere near.
mufcsean
06-01-2009, 13:39
Surely this is a different fucking Jermaine Pennant your on about.
Seriously what is wrong with the world, first Madrid now you. The guy is awful. Despite Liverpool's lack of right wingers he still can't get in the squad.
I wouldn't give Pennant a tenner to shine Kalac' boots.
What is Milan thinking? "Oh Real want this guy, so he must be good!"
jedifunk
06-01-2009, 15:00
i'd rather be talking about how things are getting along with agger.
or alex... i can't seem to find any "news" or rumors about our talks with either of them... very frustrating being a yank sometimes ;)
LarssonIsGhod
06-01-2009, 15:05
Beckham is rumoured to have a Gentelman's agreement with LA Galaxy that means he can leave his contract after three seasons. Rumour has it he's going to sign a full-time contract in November.
anyone heard about this?
Agger news was moving forwards until today when it has started going backwards. No news whatsoever on Alex which concerns me.
Our friendly starts in 55 minutes. Beckham starts, Dida replaces the injured Abbiati, Kaka asked to be left out and Seedorf is injured.
EDIT: No, it started 7 minutes ago :faceplm:
Beckham is rumoured to have a Gentelman's agreement with LA Galaxy that means he can leave his contract after three seasons. Rumour has it he's going to sign a full-time contract in November.
anyone heard about this?
I've heard variations of this.
We drew 1-1, Ronaldinho with a penalty to put us ahead. Seen no reports of the game so far but we won 4-3 on penalties.
According to the Italian media, we've already signed Pennant. Fucks sake, I hope this isn't true.
Dragonfly
06-01-2009, 19:11
According to the Italian media, we've already signed Pennant. Fucks sake, I hope this isn't true.
Maybe they want to add width to the team, playing Pennant quite wide...........all the way to Wigan.
Couldn't see the game, only heard we took the lead and let them come back. :shocking:
jedifunk
07-01-2009, 05:12
Couldn't see the game, only heard we took the lead and let them come back. :shocking:
exactly which game in the last 3 yrs are you talking about? ;)
Billy Minof
07-01-2009, 10:02
exactly which game in the last 3 yrs are you talking about? ;)
The game last night aganist Hamburg....1-1 Milan won 4-3 on Penalties.
The game last night aganist Hamburg....1-1 Milan won 4-3 on Penalties.
Woooosh!
Not your best moment there Billy :chanlaugh:
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