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If Taiwo plays today and has another shocker I'm paying for his flight back to Milan. I hold you soley responsible Don for Milan signing freebies and palming them off onto strugglers like ourselves :folarm:
Are you absolutely certain you don't want to sign him permanently? Just £1m.
Thankfully he didn't play today. I've no idea whether is injured or not but he didn't make the bench either. I'm sure the French League is more his level because he is not cutting the mustard in England. I thought Traore was a liability but at least he makes the right attacking runs.
Thankfully he didn't play today. I've no idea whether is injured or not but he didn't make the bench either. I'm sure the French League is more his level because he is not cutting the mustard in England. I thought Traore was a liability but at least he makes the right attacking runs.
The offer still stands. I'm hoping he gives Arsenal another five tips to beating us in advance of Tuesday...
An excellent result today, 4-0 at Palermo with a hat-trick from Ibrahimovic with some truly excellent finishing.
It was a mostly solid performance all around but I took great exception to the lack of intensity in the last quarter of the match - Palermo had plenty of chances to score a few and that is exactly the sort of thing we need to avoid in the match on Tuesday which is why, as I stated after the first leg, I'd like them to approach the game as though we lead 2-0 on aggregate, not 4-0.
Squad for tomorrow's game with my preferred starting eleven in bold:
Abbiati, Amelia, Roma, Abate, Antonini, Bonera, Mesbah, Mexes, Thiago Silva, Zambrotta, Yepes, Aquilani, Calvano, Emanuelson, Innocenti, Nocerino, Van Bommel, El Shaarawy, Ganz, Ibrahimovic, Robinho.
We will sorely miss Boateng.
The general feeling in Italy is that we'll start with this:
Abbiati; Abate, Mexes, Thiago Silva, Antonini; Van Bommel, Nocerino, Mesbah, Emanuelson; Robinho, Ibrahimovic.
There's (thankfully) been a lot of talk about what happened against Deportivo. Allegri says he wants to win the game (so he should) and Galliani said he is ignoring our aggregate lead.
In other news, Berlusconi says Pato will not play until he is fully fit. So I guess that's never then? Oh and he's just added "Cristiano Ronaldo has a price" - yeah, a big fat one we can't afford.
Meyyappan
06-03-2012, 03:37
So there is no chance at all that you guys will rest players?
According to Allegri and the Italian media, no.
I'll hang myself if Milan still fucks this up.
I'll hang myself if Milan still fucks this up.
Excellent, we can do this together then. Mass suicide over the Meelan.
There is talk that El Shaarawy might start tonight - could be behind the front two or alongside Ibrahimovic with Robinho behind (and in both cases Emanuelson pushed back into midfield with Mesbah left on the bench)...or it could be as a direct replacement for Robinho.
Bammers05
06-03-2012, 19:02
Sweey, why do you guys have two goalkeepers on the bench tonight? :huh:
Sweey, why do you guys have two goalkeepers on the bench tonight? :huh:
Got about 9 players out injured.
Mesbah - fuck me, I'd rather see Zambrotta or Taiwo (yeah, that sack of shit) at left-back. Allegri has fucked up big time by leaving him on so long, it was clear after ten mintues he couldn't handle it.
No excuses for the long balls. No excuses for standing offside. No excuses for the stupidly slow pace. No excuses for the pathetic defending on both goals. No excuses for playing like this. Aside from Van Bommel, Nocerino and Mexes (:huh:) so far, the rest have been useless.
Even if we score one, we're on course to concede 6 or 7 tonight because we haven't turned up - the sort of not turning up I expected in the first leg.
Arsenal aren't even that impressive - we're just THAT bad.
Just looked away from Fallout New Vegas to see Milan are 3-0 down at half time. I nearly dropped my controller. I had this pegged as a draw. Milan need a goal early in the 2nd half to kill this as a contest. I had good odds on this having 3.5 goals in it, bloody hell, as always I didn't bother betting.
One goal won't kill it Sminky, we need two now - AND to turn up.
Don't suppose you've seen the squad wandering the Mojave Wasteland? They're not in London that's for sure.
Even Silva has looked poor.
We haven't passed the ball that well, it's just been the pace and freedom of our attacking, similar to the attitude we adopted against Spurs when we were 2-0 down.
I can't see how Milan won't score though. That chance at the end of the half should've killed it. Surely they'll create more and take at least 1.
One goal won't kill it Sminky, we need two now - AND to turn up.
Don't suppose you've seen the squad wandering the Mojave Wasteland? They're not in London that's for sure.
:laugh:
Now you mention it, I did see some individuals taking pot shots at me and missing wildly, I thought it was some bad marksmanship by Caesar's legion ... on reflection it could have been Robinho.
Your guys aren't out of the game yet, one goal early doors and Arsenal really have to go for it. As it is Arsenal will be the nervy position of knowing one goal takes the game to extra time.
By the way if Meyyappan's prediction of 5-0 comes true, we'll never hear the end of it or the formation that brought about it.
Thank you Van Bommel, Abbiati, Nocerino and Mexes for turning up.
The rest of them need to look at themselves in the mirror. Ibrahimovic's inconsistency is absurd - from what he did against Palermo to tonight where he couldn't do anything at all right. Bad touches, bad passes, bad decisions, bad shots.
This is not the way to qualify. We're through but what does it matter when half the teams left in the competition will bury us if we do this again?
Something must be inherently wrong at the club. Everyone except Robinho was aware of the Deportivo debacle, some were even part of that squad, and we all know about the following year's final. Knowing that, why the fuck would you go and play the way we did, inviting pressure?
The first half was an embarrassment. We should have scored three tonight without even playing well because of the lack of quality/experience shown by Arsenal when chasing the game.
Lecce next and if we dare go 3-0 down to them at half-time like we did earlier in the season, we won't be winning 4-3 again.
Van Bommel turned up? Don't think we watched the same game Don, I think Milan were stuck at the airport. Abbiati kept you in the game. Saying that you were better in the 2nd half and stopped us from playing our game.
Bammers05
06-03-2012, 21:53
Two good games there, Sweey. Best of luck to you guys for the rest of the competition and, if you meet Chelsea in a future round, I hope you give them a good hiding :)
Van Bommel turned up? Don't think we watched the same game Don, I think Milan were stuck at the airport. Abbiati kept you in the game. Saying that you were better in the 2nd half and stopped us from playing our game.
Clearly we didn't watch the same game. His sole job is to recycle possession either by winning the ball or a foul. Trust me, he did that a hell of a lot. He was also being forced to cover for Mesbah's shitness at times with two players up against him.
Milan were fucking stuck somewhere AGAIN. There was no reason not to treat the game the same way we did the second group match against Barcelona. Better yet, the same way we played against you in the first leg.
Two good games there, Sweey. Best of luck to you guys for the rest of the competition and, if you meet Chelsea in a future round, I hope you give them a good hiding :)
Thank you. Given the circumstances I can't say my post in the Arsenal thread would have been much more than "Well done" had you gone through but I certainly appreciate the sentiment.
Although I've said you weren't brilliant or fantastic tonight, you almost did what was necessary and kudos for that. Not many people gave you a chance.
Two good games there, Sweey. Best of luck to you guys for the rest of the competition and, if you meet Chelsea in a future round, I hope you give them a good hiding :)
:lmao: at Chelsea making it to the next round.
Yeah, well done. The first leg performance was a quality showing. Though if you draw Barca or Madrid in the next round, I would think we got the better end of the deal tonight.
Meyyappan
06-03-2012, 22:07
Meela will reach the semin final along with barca real and maybe bayern/basel,i dont know why i just said that.
Meela will reach the semin final along with barca real and maybe bayern/basel,i dont know why i just said that.
You can't say that - we might draw Barcelona or Real Madrid in the next round. If we do, we're out. Even if we somehow cheated our way through, we'd only end up with the other one further down the line.
Basel would kill us just like Viktoria Plzen should have.
Where was Kevin Prince?
Injured and boy did we miss him! He wasn't fit when he played in the first leg and hasn't appeared since.
Too much sex again? and you defaintely did, he was your key player and playmaker in the first leg.
Meyyappan
07-03-2012, 04:44
Two good games there, Sweey. Best of luck to you guys for the rest of the competition and, if you meet Chelsea in a future round, I hope you give them a good hiding :)
If Chelsea mangage to get past Napoli they will have to be in form and if this Milan side meets an inform chelsea,the blues would edge them out:ninja:
I cannot believe that this is the Milan that Drew and Lost to Barca by one goal.
Further more i cannot believe that they are the champions and currently top of the league,over the 2 legs they just do not spell that.
In the 1st leg we were shit.
Galliani says he'll speak to Allegri about our future tactics in this sort of position. He also spent the last 20 minutes hiding in the dressing room as he couldn't bear to watch. Barbara Berlusconi says we suffered greatly. Some of the players say this can't happen again.
I don't buy a word of it. Everyone talked about Deportivo after I did, yes Allegri and Galliani said the tie wasn't over but the players - their fault or those of our coaching staff - did not go into the match with the right mentality and attitude. As it isn't the first or second time, there's an actual real problem here.
Allegri said we were going to go for a second leg victory - we only started to play at 3-0. It wasn't because Arsenal were tired as we started to play immediately after the goal, not just in the second half. Unforgiveable.
The media have read my post from last night and agree that "embarrassing" is indeed correct for our performance yesterday.
Abbiati; Abate, Bonera, Thiago Silva, Antonini; Nocerino, Van Bommel, Muntari; Emanuelson; Ibrahimovic, Robinho. That's for the match against Lecce kicking off in under ten minutes.
We're keen on Lecce's Udinese-owned striker Luis Muriel who plays against us today. He is a 20-year-old Colombian with five league goals and a red card to his name this season. Contact with Udinese has supposedly been made but I'm not sure whether to believe that.
Since the Arsenal game, there have been repeated media reports claiming Ibrahimovic isn't entirely happy at the club because he publicly criticised the deployment of an attacking trident (which did not include a true attacking midfielder) in the defeat at Arsenal. This, he said, left him constantly feeling as though he wasn't in the right place on the pitch.
Some reports say he wants to join Real Madrid in the summer and that he had face-to-face talks with Allegri on Thursday but Allegri denies any such discussion took place.
Anything less than a win today will be bitterly disappointing despite Lecce's recent improvement. We are top but must pressure Juventus by continuing to win. Too many times in recent years (but not last year) we've won a series of games but then faltered after overtaking or pulling level with our rivals.
EDIT: Oh dear, we're wearing our black kit - the culprit (according to Galliani only) for our defeats to Napoli, Lazio and Arsenal. Hmm.
Most desirable quarter-final draw to least desirable:
APOEL Nicosia
Benfica/Marseille
Chelsea
Bayern Munich
Barcelona
Real Madrid
Parma on Saturday afternoon, another win is critical. Again, a draw isn't enough as it stops us building pressure on Juventus.
Meyyappan
15-03-2012, 18:28
Don,could you please tell me how was Zidane when he was playing in serie A and also was he a pivotal player certainly but was he the most important player of that Juventus side ahead of the likes of Del piero?
Was he absolutely majestic?
Also do you want to continue in this competition?Would it not be better to go out and focus on the league or for the pride of it continue?
Because if you get an easy draw and progress to the semis it will really stretch you there but you might have a chance but i really do not see you robbing it from a real madrid managed by mourinho or a pep who has to win the cl to make it a successful season.
If i were you i would prefer to meet either real or bayer who you have not met this year and test yourself.
Don,could you please tell me how was Zidane when he was playing in serie A and also was he a pivotal player certainly but was he the most important player of that Juventus side ahead of the likes of Del piero?
Zidane was very good and pivotal for creativity but the system required the presence of Del Piero (creativity and finishing) and Inzaghi (finishing when not standing offside).
Was he absolutely majestic?
No.
Also do you want to continue in this competition?Would it not be better to go out and focus on the league or for the pride of it continue?
I want to win the Champions League, Serie A and the Coppa Italia. If we can only win two, the Coppa Italia can go and...you get the idea. We have players coming back from injury and going further in the Champions League will breed greater confidence in the players. Do you seriously think Thiago Silva and Zlatan Ibrahimovic want to stay at a Milan club who keep getting knocked out in the second round or quarter-finals? They want to win it.
Because if you get an easy draw and progress to the semis it will really stretch you there but you might have a chance but i really do not see you robbing it from a real madrid managed by mourinho or a pep who has to win the cl to make it a successful season.
Excuse me? "Robbing" it from Real Madrid or Barcelona. That's the sort of disgusting language ITV and Sky Sports use in the UK, believing that football does not exist outside of England or, in the case of Sky Sports who cover Spanish football, Spain as well. How dare you or they? We are historically a bigger club than any of the English clubs and they would do well to remember that instead of their media disrespecting us.
If i were you i would prefer to meet either real or bayer who you have not met this year and test yourself.
Sorry but your thinking is crazy.
Meyyappan
16-03-2012, 04:23
Okay keep cool man it was just a slip of the tongue...what i meant was it was difficult to see you winning it if there both were on their game but this is football and anything can happen so kudos man.
Personally i would prefer to see you or Bayern win it than real or barca.
Billy Minof
17-03-2012, 00:08
Excuse me? "Robbing" it from Real Madrid or Barcelona. That's the sort of disgusting language ITV and Sky Sports use in the UK, believing that football does not exist outside of England or, in the case of Sky Sports who cover Spanish football, Spain as well. How dare you or they? We are historically a bigger club than any of the English clubs and they would do well to remember that instead of their media disrespecting us.
Agreed, English football is on the decline and a far way off Spanish football ATM, Italian football is also very attractive again after a couple of years and good to see, the top German team Bayern are very very strong and Real would do well to beat them in the Semi finals if both get there of course, I would never discount the big teams in a Cup match, Milan/Chelsea and Bayern have every chance of winning it and I could even include Benfica in that list aswell as Barca and Real, I think the only real shocks would be if APOEL win it out or even Marseille but I would not rule them out either.
Agreed, English football is on the decline and a far way off Spanish football ATM, Italian football is also very attractive again after a couple of years and good to see, the top German team Bayern are very very strong and Real would do well to beat them in the Semi finals if both get there of course, I would never discount the big teams in a Cup match, Milan/Chelsea and Bayern have every chance of winning it and I could even include Benfica in that list aswell as Barca and Real, I think the only real shocks would be if APOEL win it out or even Marseille but I would not rule them out either.
Expand on this, please.
Bammers05
17-03-2012, 01:08
Expand on this, please.
Agreed, English football is on the decline and a far way off Spanish football ATM, Italian football is also very attractive again after a couple of years and good to see, the top German team Bayern are very very strong and Real would do well to beat them in the Semi finals if both get there of course, I would never discount the big teams in a Cup match, Milan/Chelsea and Bayern have every chance of winning it and I could even include Benfica in that list aswell as Barca and Real, I think the only real shocks would be if APOEL win it out or even Marseille but I would not rule them out either.
Done :)
Cesc Fabregas
17-03-2012, 07:18
I would love my underwear flattened.
uA - 1905
17-03-2012, 07:22
During that time we
regret that you will be unbearable.
Why you gotta be so mean
How do you feel after losing to Juventus Sweey? :laugh:
Great match though, at the end my feet were sweating
How do you feel after losing to Juventus Sweey? :laugh:
Great match though, at the end my feet were sweating
I'm not all that sad - it would have been nice to go through but its the Coppa Italia, the least important competition we're involved in. Plus, we're the first team this season to beat Juventus inside 90 minutes. Given our multitude of injuries, what we've done so far this season is very good.
As I said elsewhere on the forum, I wanted Ibrahimovic and Thiago Silva both substituted at half-time because Roma-Barcelona-Catania-Barcelona is far more important. Two seriously tough league games either side of matches between arguably the best club in Europe. We absolutely cannot slip up in the league, especially when Juventus have the head-to-head over us due to that ridiculous performance from the officials a few weeks back and with the Milan derby on the penultimate day of the season.
Roma tomorrow. Inzaghi out for three weeks with a hamstring injury, Pato (more on him below) travelling to the United States on Monday for more investigations into his nijury problems. Maxi Lopez, Stephen El Shaarawy and, if he is over the flue, Zlatan Ibrahimovic are our attacking players for the game, presumbly with Simone Gazz called up from the youth squad.
Given Juventus' confidence after stuffing a crap Fiorentina side 5-0 and then knocking us out of the cup, we need a win. If they beat Inter on Sunday and manage to reduce our lead at the same time, it will have been a brilliant weekend for them. We've got Catania in Sicily next weekend and they have been very dangerous of late (up to 7th, ahead of Inter and challenging Roma for a Europa League place).
Pato - four goals in 17 games this season, constantly injured and concerns creeping into the minds of our hierarchy that his injuries will never go away. The trip to the United States won't be his first to explore the problems causing his injuries. We're obviously trying to downplay it because getting €35-40m for him would, if the injuries aren't simply related to our shit pitch, be daylight robbery.
You give Madrid too much credit, Sweey. They're shit against big teams. Mourinho or no, their midfield does not have championship winning material.
Meyyappan
23-03-2012, 15:11
The names do seem good with the likes of Xabi Alonso,Di mari and Ozil...kaka is returning to the mix as well.
Where's the balance? Alonso isn't a proper holding midfielder. Too slow and prone to silly and clumsy fouls. Diarra is out of it and Khedira is worse than Alonso.
They are very good offensively, but they lack proper possession capabilities.
Meyyappan
23-03-2012, 15:28
I thought Khedira was there for that and alonso is not totally a offensive player as far as i know he is adpet at both but you have been watching them live so i guess you might know better.
So is there a chance that you can still pip them to la liga?
Are there the calibre of teams that can hurt madrid?
If barca have been hurt with all the possesion they have maybe real can be too..
If real still have Athletic bilbao you might have a chance,they looked good against utd...that + el classico can put you at 2-3 points distance...
You give Madrid too much credit, Sweey. They're shit against big teams. Mourinho or no, their midfield does not not have championship winning material.
Its more credit to Mourinho's siege mentality and getting all of the players believing in conspiracies favouring the opposition. Still a better outfit than we are most days of the week.
If real still have Athletic bilbao you might have a chance,they looked good against utd...that + el classico can put you at 2-3 points distance...
The same Athletic Bilbao that lost 3-0 to Valencia and then, if I recall, 2-1 to Mallorca and are ninth in the division seven adrift of fourth-placed Levante? That Athletic Bilbao?
To be fair to Athletic Bilbao, their style of play is exhaustive to the team and impossible to maintain all season. Many journalists and fans admire the way the team plays but realise it is just going to sap the squad week in week out considering its dearth. I highly expect them to turn in a decent performance against Real though. Still, a lot of teams with larger squads could draw inspiration from Bielsa's methods.
I'm hoping they drop points against Athletic and Atletico. They're both away matches and both clubs 'hate' them more than we do.
They also still have to play Sevilla and Valencia.
Fair do's. One question .... why are we discussing Real Madrid in the AC Milan thread? :lol:
Fair do's. One question .... why are we discussing Real Madrid in the AC Milan thread? :lol:
The skillz of Meyyappan.
The skillz of Meyyappan.
Ah, say no more :laugh:
Cesc Fabregas
24-03-2012, 11:27
The skillz of Meyyappan.
Actually wasn't it Usul?
Actually wasn't it Usul?
Not at all. Usul said I gave Real too much credit but it was Meyyappan who then commented on midfield specifics. Yes, Usul then asked where the balance is but Meyyappan a) made a long post about Real and b) should really have made his initial post in the Real thread, referencing Usul's post from this thread.
That said, the Milan thread is always happy to receive activity from users other than me :>
Cannon ball
24-03-2012, 15:32
Ah, say no more :laugh:
I'm surprised he didn't bring Arsenal into it.
MILAN: Abbiati, Bonera, Mexes, Thiago Silva, Mesbah, Nocerino, Ambrosini, Muntari, Emanuelson, Ibrahimovic, El Shaarawy.
ROMA: Stekelenburg, Rosi, Kjaer, Heinze, Taddei, Gago, De Rossi, Marquinho, Totti, Borini, Osvaldo.
Roma's attacking duo are rather dangerous. Should Ibrahimovic or El Shaarawy suffer injury or the team require an additional striker to push for a goal...well, this is our bench due to injury:
Amelia, Nesta, Zambrotta, Aquilani, Gattuso, Seedorf, Boateng.
:facepalm:
A win yesterday thanks to our reliance on long balls to Ibrahimovic. A necessary result and we need further wins against Catania and Fiorentina in the coming weeks. If we can achieve those, we should be in a strong position - we have to be mindful of the Milan derby in week 37 which could, if we have a lead over Juventus at that point, easily wipe three points off it.
Thiago Silva off with injury after ten minutes, confirmed out for a month. I can't begin to explain how much of a blow that is.
Robinho and Maxi Lopez are in a race to be fit for the Barcelona match on Wednesday. Abate is almost definitely out along with Flamini (not in the CL squad), Merkel, Strasser and Cassano. Gattuso will be on the bench at best, Boateng returned from injury as a substitute yesterday, Seedorf is also recently back from injury, Nesta hasn't played since his injury, Van Bommel is suspended and Muntari isn't part of our CL squad.
I believe we could be starting the match with this:
Abbiati, Zambrotta, Mexes, Bonera, Emanuelson/Antonini/Mesbah; Ambrosini, Seedorf, Nocerino, Boateng; Ibrahimovic, El Shaarawy.
If Nests is fit he could replace Bonera but it looks unlikely. Robinho will probably start the game if fit, Maxi Lopez is simply hoping for a place on the bench.
EDIT: How interesting..I didn't even remember to mention Pato. I think that speaks volumes. I'm sure everyone knows where he is.
No Thiago....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jgmaynard/mr_burns.bmp
The Mexes-Bonera partnership looked like a clown show up until yesterday. Adding Zambrotta and his lack of pace to the mix we might as well not bother turning up at the stadium. You'll ease past us over the two legs.
We're far from perfect at the back ourselves lately.
Hopefully 2 brilliant games just like those in the group stage. Obviously with the final outcome of us progressing please.
We're far from perfect at the back ourselves lately.
Hopefully 2 brilliant games just like those in the group stage. Obviously with the final outcome of us progressing please.
I'm expecting both legs to follow the pattern of the first group stage match - us sitting back looking to hit on the break and not concede. The second game (where with better finishing you'd have spanked us silly) only really turned out that way because we had nothing to lose.
We're happy to take your place in the semis, allow you to concentrate on hunting down Real in La Liga. That's obviously more important for you :>
We claim we're going to play positively tomorrow. We also claimed we were going to play decent football in the second leg against Arsenal but instead chose to play at a pathetic pace with zero intention of breaking a sweat/trying to win the match.
Basically, I'll believe it when I see it.
Wenger - whose business it is not - says we can't win the Champions League, basically because we're too shit. Who gives a shit about his opinion? We've got a better chance of winning it this season than he has, twat. He still hasn't leant not to speak about us when we're none of his business.
Meyyappan
27-03-2012, 20:26
Why are you so bugged over a comment?
Its free speech you were condemning Mourinho when the special was condemning lippi because he believed Juventus would win the title,yes but Mourinho was hypocritic also but still every one can have a opinion and he is not playing mind games to disrupt your team,its the plain truth.
Milan are nowhere near Real madrid,Barcelona and Bayer Munich.
Your current league winning side is not even better than one of the early 2000s you had.Not better than anyother of your champions league winning teams not even the one kaka led to victory because with kaka playing the way he was he transformed your team's game,he took on a zidane's role.
Its just the plain fact that Wenger has stated.
Why are you so bugged over a comment?
Its free speech you were condemning Mourinho when the special was condemning lippi because he believed Juventus would win the title,yes but Mourinho was hypocritic also but still every one can have a opinion and he is not playing mind games to disrupt your team,its the plain truth.
Milan are nowhere near Real madrid,Barcelona and Bayer Munich.
Your current league winning side is not even better than one of the early 2000s you had.Not better than anyother of your champions league winning teams not even the one kaka led to victory because with kaka playing the way he was he transformed your team's game,he took on a zidane's role.
Its just the plain fact that Wenger has stated.
Wenger hates Milan and we - and the Champions League - have nothing to do with him. Do you see Ferguson talking about the Champions League? No, because he's got more sense.
Kaka took on Zidane's role? Are you crazy? When did Zidane score so many goals?
Wenger is full of shit and it isn't new.
Oh and Bayern do not have a better squad than us.
He has a column with Eurosport working as their pundit, so it's no surprise he's given his opinion. Though the way he worded it comes off as a bit unnecessary and classless.
Meyyappan
28-03-2012, 04:38
I meant that kaka had become the leading force from a attacking midfield role...similar to zidane set people up,distribute in the final third but since he had more pace he could counter fast and score.
Frankly though you have robinho and pato and stuff from what i saw in the 2 legs you people seem to lack mobility and techniquality(besides ibra)
Bayern have plenty in the first team:Robben,Ribery,Schweisteig er etc that would put them better of i guess.
And also he works for french television.
But the wording was harsh and he is becoming frustrated these days.
Boateng is ready (according to his Twitter update) :nath:
Ready for the team to fail I assume.
Will El Shaarawy start?
I've never got the chance to see him play in my whole life!
Will El Shaarawy start?
I've never got the chance to see him play in my whole life!
If Robinho is fit enough to start then he, not El Shaarawy, will partner Ibra due to experience.
El Shaarawy is full of running and clearly possesses creativity. I'm happy he has had games this season and hope we buy him outright in the summer (currently co-owned by Genoa). That said, he's far from the finished article which is absolutely not a problem given his age.
MILAN: Abbiati, Bonera, Méxes, Nesta, Antonini, Nocerino, Ambrosini, Seedorf, Boateng; Ibrahimovic, Robinho
A disp.: Amelia, Mesbah, Yepes, Emanuelson, Aquilani, Maxi Lopez, El Shaarawy
BARCELLONA: Valdes, Dani Alves, Piqué, Mascherano, Puyol, Xavi, Busquets, Keita, Iniesta, Messi, Sanchez
A disp.: Pinto, Montoya, Tello, Thiago Alcantara, Fabregas, Pedro, Cuenca
Our back four is a huge concern - Bonera instead of Abate, Nesta/Mexes instead of Thiago Silva. Ambrosini is in the Van Bommel role due to the Dutchman's suspension.
Boateng is ready (according to his Twitter update) :nath:
Ready for the team to fail I assume.
The power of positive thought at work.
Should be a good one. :happy:
Is this on ITV tonight? If so, anyone want to play a drinking game? Every time a commentator/pundit tongues Seedorf's bumhole, you take a shot?
We'll all be dead by 21:35.
I've not got enough alcohol for that game. Nor has my local.
Should be a good one. :happy:
For you :(
Is this on ITV tonight? If so, anyone want to play a drinking game? Every time a commentator/pundit tongues Seedorf's bumhole, you take a shot?
We'll all be dead by 21:35.
Yes its on fucking ITV and I can't stand them. Sky are bad enough with their lack of knowledge but ITV take it to a whole other level. Around 75% of the evening will be about Barcelona, 20% about Arsenal and 5% about the defensive Italian team who cheated their way to this stage.
For you :(
Yes its on fucking ITV and I can't stand them. Sky are bad enough with their lack of knowledge but ITV take it to a whole other level.
But Seedorf is an immense player, don't you know?
Don't get me wrong, I'll always like Seedorf, but they talk of him like it's 5+ years ago.
But Seedorf is an immense player, don't you know?
Don't get me wrong, I'll always like Seedorf, but they talk of him like it's 5+ years ago.
Edited my post since you quoted it :>
He was a good player, he is still at times a good player but he has always suffered from slowing the play down too much. I'm concerned for him tonight.
Why are Milan in their away shirt?
'arf time.
Everything else aside, Robinho should have scored in the first three minutes. He's now being sucked back leaving us little opportunity to counter. Ibrahimovic has no support when it is played up to him and is finding Bonera as an outlet. As the support moves forward, his silly long bacll is intercepted and we start all over again.
I'd still take 0-0 tonight.
How Milan aren't winning. They need to stop being so profligate!
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Love it :laugh:
Proud of the team tonight, the defence were great* and the team did well although we need to make more of any chances in the second leg, which we didn't tonight.
*Mesbah nearly fucked it all up. He even considered handling the ball after he'd gone to ground and Messi was dribbling past him. That thought should never go through your head at this level. Of course the referee is going to see it!
Heres the squad mate:
GOALKEEPERS
1 DIDA 07/10/1973 Brazil
33 Dimitrios ELEFTHEROPOULOS 07/08/1976 Greece
12 Valerio FIORI 27/04/1969 Italy
16 Zeljko KALAC 16/12/1972 Australia
DEFENDERS
Number Name Date of birth Place of birth
3 Paolo MALDINI (Captain) 26/06/1968 Italy
2 CAFU 07/06/1970 Brazil
5 Alessandro COSTACURTA 24/04/1966 Italy
18 Marek JANKULOVSKI 09/05/1977 Czech Republic
4 Kakha KALADZE 27/02/1978 Georgia
13 Alessandro NESTA 19/03/1976 Italy
17 Dario SIMIC 12/11/1975 Italy
31 Jaap STAM 17/07/1972 Netherlands
MIDFIELDERS
Number Name Date of birth Place of birth
23 Massimo AMBROSINI 29/05/1977 Italy
8 Gennaro Ivan GATTUSO 09/01/1978 Italy
22 KAKA’ 22/04/1982 Brazil
21 Andrea PIRLO 19/05/1979 Italy
10 Manuel RUI COSTA 29/03/1972 Portugal
20 Clarence SEEDORF 01/04/1976 Netherlands
27 SERGINHO 27/06/1971 Brazil
14 Johann VOGEL 08/03/1977 Switzerland
FORWARDS
Number Name Date of birth Place of birth
11 Alberto GILARDINO 05/07/1982 Italy
9 Filippo INZAGHI 09/08/1973 Italy
7 Andriy SHEVCHENKO 29/09/1976 Ukraine
32 Christian VIERI 12/07/1973 Italy
TECHNICAL STAFF
Coach Carlo Ancelotti
Assistant Coach MauroTassotti
Technical Assistant Luigi Balestra
Goalkeepers Trainer Villiam Vecchi
Goalkeepers Trainer
(Assiastant) Beniamino Abate
Strenght Conditioning Daniele Tognaccini
Strenght Conditioning
(Assistant) Giovanni Mauri
Team Manager Silvano Ramaccioni
Medical Director Jean Pierre Meersseman
Club Doctor Massimiliano Sala
Chiropractor Johannes Breum
Physioterapist Sebastiano Genovese
Physioterapist Giorgio Puricelli
Physioterapist Tomislav Vrbnjak
Massophysioterapist Roberto Morosi
Athletic Trainer William Tillson
Masseur Roberto Boerci
all the best ac milan players
0-0 isn't a bad score for a first leg home game. You always carry the threat in the second leg now.
0-0 isn't a bad score for a first leg home game. You always carry the threat in the second leg now.
I have a feeling one goal is going to be enough to settle the tie. Who will Milan have available for that game Don who is currently out?
I have a feeling one goal is going to be enough to settle the tie. Who will Milan have available for that game Don who is currently out?
Van Bommel back from suspension. Robinho, Maxi Lopez, Boateng, Seedorf a bit fitter (Robinho went off because he was injured, same for Nesta who will probably struggle for the second leg). Not sure on the status of Abate.
Meyyappan
29-03-2012, 04:26
Frankly don you should never let mesbah play he was our main attacking outlet at the emirates stadium.
If you get past barca,you will get past chelsea/benfica but i do not then want you to give an easy final to real madrid.If you get past barca you better promise to win this thing.
And be happy it was sanchez and not gareth bale or else that would have been a penalty.
Epic defensive display by Milan last night, thought Ambrosini and Antoini were terrific. Best I've seen them play in a long time.
Now Milan have prevented Barca from getting an away goal, I reckon they've got a genuine chance of sneaking through this tie.
Can they keep a clean sheet though? Would be an immense achievement if they could, at the Nou Camp et al.
Now THAT was the kind of defensive play I grew up watching Meelan put in.
It was a lovely defensive display although there were a couple of dodgy moments (the potential penalties). We did try to score as well but weren't able to make many opportunities and fluffed our three good ones (Robinho volley, Ibrahimovic shot blocked by Puyol, Emanuelson's failure to control the ball moments after coming on).
I'm a bit uneasy today to find out that Berlusconi is understood to have been unhappy with our display. What exactly does he expect when the pitch is shite, the same pitch which has caused us so many injuries and he forced us to keep hold of Pato, the most injury-plagued of all our players? Let us pretend for a minute we had sgned Tevez and sold Pato. It would have meant that Ibrahimovic had been more rested for last night's game (not that he looked tired). Instead, he's needed for 90 minutes on Saturday, another 90 on Tuesday and 90 the following Saturday, barring injuries or suspensions.
Annoying.
Nesta and Ambrosini won't get away with that in the Camp Nou.
Nesta and Ambrosini won't get away with that in the Camp Nou.
Get away with what? Having your team in their back pocket? :joel:
Viperized
29-03-2012, 18:06
It was a lovely defensive display although there were a couple of dodgy moments (the potential penalties). We did try to score as well but weren't able to make many opportunities and fluffed our three good ones (Robinho volley, Ibrahimovic shot blocked by Puyol, Emanuelson's failure to control the ball moments after coming on).
I'm a bit uneasy today to find out that Berlusconi is understood to have been unhappy with our display. What exactly does he expect when the pitch is shite, the same pitch which has caused us so many injuries and he forced us to keep hold of Pato, the most injury-plagued of all our players? Let us pretend for a minute we had sgned Tevez and sold Pato. It would have meant that Ibrahimovic had been more rested for last night's game (not that he looked tired). Instead, he's needed for 90 minutes on Saturday, another 90 on Tuesday and 90 the following Saturday, barring injuries or suspensions.
Annoying.
From what I understand AC Milan has one of the most advanced medical centres in the world, let alone in European football so it's really surprising something as basic as a pitch looks like a disaster written all over it.
Get away with what? Having your team in their back pocket? :joel:
They defended well, but both could have easily been sent off eventually..
I expect we'll probably lose the return fixture about 2-0 unless we do something drastically wrong and cop a pasting. Not entirely sure how we're going to approach it; going there just to defend - and there's no indication we will - would be absolutely the wrong way to approach it. I doubt Nesta will be fit although there's no official word on his condition after last night.
I'm sure Guardiola has plenty of ideas on how to unlock the defence utilising the wide men if we defend the same way as last night.
From what I understand AC Milan has one of the most advanced medical centres in the world, let alone in European football so it's really surprising something as basic as a pitch looks like a disaster written all over it.
How do the two equate?
The way the stadium was expanded for the 1990 World Cup means that sunlight doesn't get to most of it and that's what the problem is.
If Inter would wake the fuck up we could get the pitch sorted sooner with work starting as soon as the season finishes in May and have it ready for August. Instead, we might have another season on this rubbish and it contributes to injuries for both clubs.
Viperized
29-03-2012, 19:37
Money.
I'm surprised you don't have an artificial lighting/growth medium for the pitch much like Arsenal have and other teams use.
Money.
I'm surprised you don't have an artificial lighting/growth medium for the pitch much like Arsenal have and other teams use.
Council-owned stadia for every Italian club except Juventus so not allowed to do certain things. The councils also get a large amount of gate receipts. It currently takes around 10 years from design to completion of a new stadium due to red tape hence our plan - which Inter tonight said they are "open" to - for an artificial pitch tied into natural roots. It is the best option.
Will be a sad day for football when Nesta retires.
Will be a sad day for football when Nesta retires.
Given his injuries, I hope for his sake that it happens this summer.
He wants to play on and yes he was immense yesterday but he isn't always like that. In general, he hovers around the same level of ability as Mexes in my opinion. The difference is that due to his exceptional experience, Nesta is occasionally able to turn in a performance like yesterday.
Due to his injuries, however, he is available less and less.
I really like Nesta and would hate to see him go elsewhere (rumours of him going to Juventus on a free if we don't extend his deal) but I'm not sure that extending his deal to sit on the sidelines all season is the right thing for the club - or for him.
Don, how does the artificial tied into natural roots thing work?
Is it an artificial pitch ontop of a real one?
Dragonfly
29-03-2012, 23:25
Don, how does the artificial tied into natural roots thing work?
Is it an artificial pitch ontop of a real one?
No, it's like Rooney's hair.
Don, how does the artificial tied into natural roots thing work?
Is it an artificial pitch ontop of a real one?
This should help:
http://www.artificialgrass.info/en/about-artificial-grass/reinforced-natural-grass.html
Catania in Sicily this afternoon, another very difficult and very important match. Their only loss in the last 11 was 3-1 at Juventus and in that time they've climbed from 14th to 7th, ahead of Inter and in the thick of the fight for a Europa League spot.
Abate could make his return today but Van Bommel is still struggling with a back injury. Boateng should be on the bench, El Shaarawy will probably be selected ahead of Robinho and Nesta won't play as he is concentrating solely on his fitness for Tuesday.
Speaking of Tuesday, Pato is expected to be part of the squad :huh:
Italian football - why bother? This isn't a goal, just like Muntari's (even more obvious) effort against Juventus. Can't have us winning the title now can we?
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Meyyappan
01-04-2012, 15:34
I just watched the live action video and on it the ball stops on the line and then the defender kicks it out.
http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/did-it-cross-the-line-robinho-chance-v-catania/
Please embbed the video here.
The image is a parallax error,watch it in motion.
I just watched the live action video and on it the ball stops on the line and then the defender kicks it out.
http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/did-it-cross-the-line-robinho-chance-v-catania/
Please embbed the video here.
The image is a parallax error,watch it in motion.
Depends on the angle you watch it from. During the match I saw that angle, after the match I watched two other angles on video - one is unclear but the other, from behind the linesman's head, shows it in.
Moving on to today...
Barcelona: Victor Valdes; Daniel Alves, Piqué, Mascherano, Puyol; Xavi Hernandez, Busquets, Iniesta; Messi, Fabregas, Isaac Cuenca
Bench: Jose Pinto, Thiago Alcantara, Keita, Adriano, Alexis Sanchez, Pedro Rodriguez, Tello
Milan: Abbiati; Abate, Nesta, Mexes, Antonini; Nocerino, Ambrosini, Seedorf; Boateng; Robinho, Ibrahimovic
Bench: Amelia, Bonera, Yepes, Aquilani, Emanuelson, Pato, Maxi Lopez
I think Guardiola's plan with Alexis Sanchez - assuming he doesn't have a niggling injury - is to use his blistering pace late on whether necessary or not.
Meyyappan
03-04-2012, 20:45
Maybe you can nick it,good luck and you are right there is an angle where it seems in and others where it does not,we must see it from the side at zero degrees,goal lin technology is so needed.
Pato - I have to laugh, it is all I can do. It is solely Berlusconi's fault if we can't get €35m for him now. THe money was in our hands and Silvio gave it back for his daughter's love life.
He came back on Sunday with our doctors saying "We've found the answers to his injury problems during our USA trip! He can play against Barcelona!"
Pathetic.
Pato - I have to laugh, it is all I can do. It is solely Berlusconi's fault if we can't get €35m for him now. THe money was in our hands and Silvio gave it back for his daughter's love life.
He came back on Sunday with our doctors saying "We've found the answers to his injury problems during our USA trip! He can play against Barcelona!"
Pathetic.
What was the answer to his injury problems, too much bondage in the Berlusconi dungeon?
No official word from the club on Pato (given that everyone who commented on his nijury problems being resolved now looks stupid). Rumours are that his season is done and that he won't play for us again if we get a suitable bid (€25m+). Who in their right mind will want him as he is now?
Fiorentina on Saturday.
EDIT: This was his third breakdown since returning in February. 14 injuries in two years or so.
Shareholders meeting on Friday where this will probably get blown wide open but here's what we do know: the club posted a loss of €67m for 2011. That's down just €2m from the 2010 loss.
Our players, coaching and management salaries are €160m per season, more than any other club in Italy.
Big problems.
Flamini to leave on a free in the summer (just like Marseille and Arsenal). Heard someone say he's Milan's second highest-paid player, after Ibrahimovic?
He'll get offers but not worth the risk for the top clubs, with his dodgy knees.
If Meyyappan wasn't restricted right now...
......I wouldn't have mentioned it.
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Don's a bit quiet at the moment..
Maybe because he's not online and is watching the game?
Maybe because he's not online and is watching the game?
Yes. I also haven't been here for a couple of days.
No surprise we lost: in December (before Christmas) I predicted if Juventus could get to the end of January without being beaten they'd do the season - they're one game off it. Similarly, when they beat Inter in March, I said we'd lose the derby.
Now the rebuilding begins.
A wonderful send off for the senators who leave today. Inzaghi scoring our winner was emotional enough but seeing the tears from most of those who are leaving today plus the tears from Van Bommel during his press conference a couple of days ago have been extremely moving. Zambrotta seemed to be doing fine but absolutely broke down in a flood of tears shortly after Gattuso did.
Nesta, Gattuso, Van Bommel, Seedorf and Inzaghi are confirmed as leaving. Although there's been no official word on Zambrotta, he too is going.
Flamini appears to be staying (two-year deal with a heavily reduced salary; ~40% of his previous wage), Nancy have confirmed that Bakaye Traore has agreed a three-year deal with us and Allegri confirmed on Friday during his press conference that Riccardo Montolivo is joining.
Gabriel should be made official tomorrow, he's in Milan today for a medical. Cruzeiro's second-choice goalkeeper who had made 15 appearances for Brazil under-20s so far, he will cost us €500,000 and take Flavio Roma's role as third-choice.
Seedorf says he will sort out his future in the next 10 days - I've seen a horde of Milan fans desperate that he doesn't somehow end up staying.
Gattuso's move to Rangers looks unworkable due to their transfer embargo so today he is linked with Lazio.
We are said to be closing on the transfer of Francesco Acerbi who is co-owned by Chievo Verona and Genoa.
Allegri was at the Champions League final last night, hopefully scouting Schweinsteiger and not Van Buyten. Truth be told, he's probably looking at Kalou or even Drogba (who has previously been of interest to both Inter and Juventus).
We are officially one of the top eight seeds for next season's Champions League due to the failure of certain others (Inter, Liverpool, Lyon) to make the competition.
Monaco have sacked Marco Simone after finishing tenth in Ligue 2 this season - they were bottom at Christmas before being taken over by Dmitry Rybolovlev.
:>
-Silvio Berlusconi will have lunch with Rashid Al Maktoum next week and there are strong rumours that he will offer a 20-25% stake in the club plus a seat on the board for €200m. The reports go on to suggest that we will use this money to purchase San Siro from the council once our existing agreement with them ends in 2016.
To my mind, we must have ownership of our own stadium at the earliest possible opportunity or accept that, history aside, we are no longer among Europe's elite clubs.
-We're still after Francesco Acerbi (co-owned by Genoa and Chievo Verona). The player is eager to join us but Genoa president and all-round friend of both Milan clubs Enrico Preziosi wants to keep hold of him and is advising the player to stay put - presumably with the fact that he'll see more playing time if he remains once his ownership situation is resolved.
-In addition to Acerbi, the names of Davide Astori (a product of our youth team), Matias Silvetre, Khalez Boulahrouz (:facepalm:) and Cristian Zapata continue to pop up. We're meant to be signing one of the four.
-Dede is continually linked to our left-back role where Taiwo and Didac look set to be sold. I'd say Mesbah too but he claims that the club have assured him he'll remain. In my opinion, selling Didac would be a horrible mistake - I think he's already good enough to do well for us.
-Mathieu Flamini will be leaving this summer after rejecting our contract offer which would have seen him take a 60% pay cut to €1.8m per season. He supposedly has offers from Marseille, Malaga, Roma and Napoli. There are a few candidates to replace him including Marco Rigoni, Sulley Muntari, Lassana Diarra and Anatoliy Tymoshchuk. We could sign two of them but if we do that means we definitely get either Rigoni or Muntari (if not both).
-Massimiliano Allegri says we're looking for a high quality midfielder..hmm.
CDDRodrigo
08-06-2012, 15:40
Sign Ganso, please!
Bammers05
08-06-2012, 15:47
I know you didn't mention him, but stay away from M'Vila :point:
Sign Ganso, please!
No!
Do you agree with my general assessment that he goes missing for long periods in a game and is generally lazy? Obviously you watch him all the time, I don't but its what I've noticed the few times I have seen him.I know you didn't mention him, but stay away from M'Vila :point:
M'Bia? Yeah we're not after that one, there's another one with a similar name :ninja:
Because last year wasn't bad enough....this summer's Mr X is a full-back whose name is "top secret". Er, Dani Alves (who I don't want) then?
Maurizio Zamparini is enjoying himself - taking the piss out of us in public for the umpteenth time yesterday saying that all the talk about Berlusconi offering a stake in the club to Al Maktoum is purely "advertising". He's probably right.
It'll end up being Bosingwa |D
It'll end up being Bosingwa |D
Or are we going to recycle Kalou? :<
We're also being linked with Axel Witsel for midfield - you know, because by refusing to meet Standard's asking price last summer it makes sense to try and buy him for an even bigger fee from Benfica after an impressive season that has attracted interest from Real.
Sign Ganso, please!
i dont know why they say that ganso is the next superstar... but he doesnt do skills like neymar For example... i mean what is he famous for??
i dont know why they say that ganso is the next superstar... but he doesnt do skills like neymar For example... i mean what is he famous for??
You don't need to do skills to be a superstar. What Ganso does have is vision and that in abundance. He can thread balls through to strikers with ease in the same sort of playmaking style that the likes of Baggio, Totti, Del Piero, Cassano and Pirlo were/are able to.
My issue with Ganso is that he'll go missing for 88 minutes in a match, a bit like Emerson (ex-Roma and Juventus amongst others) used to. Emerson was more of a defensive midfielder but with playmaking skills. He'd either be excellent or completely invisible.
i dont know why they say that ganso is the next superstar... but he doesnt do skills like neymar For example... i mean what is he famous for??
:facepalm:
Right so this is what's happening on this first of many manic days at Milanello:
The strong rumour throughout the day has been that Thiago Silva, who is on holiday in Paris, is off to Paris Saint-Germain. It is believed that he has agreed personal terms which will see him earn €9-12m per season on a five-year deal. The bid made by PSG to Milan is said to be €45m plus a further €5m if certain objectives are achieved by the club.
Barcelona president Sandro Rossell is supposedly in Milan tomorrow and we may schedule a meeting between him and Galliani. We would prefer to sell Thiago Silva for €40m plus Thiago Alcantara but it is believed Barcelona cannot match PSG's contract offer. Additionally, Alcantara would surely have no inclination to a) leave Barcelona and b) join Milan so it would seem highly unlikely. It has been previously reported that Barcelona wanted to sign Thiago Silva for no more than €35m which obviously doesn't appear possible now and isn't deemed an acceptable value by us.
Meanwhile, we want to sign Vasco da Gama's Dede as Thiago Silva's direct replacement and have supposedly planned to table a €10m bid if he is sold. Vasco want to keep him until December so we'd ask Nesta to renew his contract for a further year if this all happens.
StringerBell
11-06-2012, 23:10
Thiago Silva to PSG they would be unstoppable :shocking:
Thiago Silva to PSG they would be unstoppable :shocking:
PSG are becoming the french man. city
Cannon ball
11-06-2012, 23:44
That would be some coup (signing Thiago Silva).
StringerBell
12-06-2012, 00:12
PSG are becoming the french man. city
Wait till Monaco come up in 2014 :ohmy:
What's up with PSG and their weird fetish with centre-backs? They already had Sakho, Bisevac, Camara and Lugano; then during the last winter transfer window they bought Alex and Thiago Motta (who can play as a centre-back). Not to mention Armand, who's also capable of doing the job there. Now Thiago Silva? :mellow:
Galliani has arrived in Paris and is in a meeting with Leonardo inside the oddly named Hotel Le Bristol. Thiago Silva is in Brazil but has agreed terms. Latest price I've heard is €42m in cash. There is a belief that we will re-invest just 20% of the amount we receive from his sale this summer.
Shambolic.
As Dede can't arrive until December, at least one of Francesco Acerbi and Davide Astori are still linked to us.
StringerBell
12-06-2012, 19:33
What's up with PSG and their weird fetish with centre-backs? They already had Sakho, Bisevac, Camara and Lugano; then during the last winter transfer window they bought Alex and Thiago Motta (who can play as a centre-back). Not to mention Armand, who's also capable of doing the job there. Now Thiago Silva? :mellow:
Perhaps the opposite of Man City remember when they were buying all those attackers...
@Montolivo 20 percent jeez that stinks Milan should demand one of PSG's multitude of centre backs take Sakho.
Perhaps the opposite of Man City remember when they were buying all those attackers...
@Montolivo 20 percent jeez that stinks Milan should demand one of PSG's multitude of centre backs take Sakho.
We like Sakho a lot but didn't he just renew?
There's no guarantee it'll be just 20% but it would make sense to keep the money or we'll sell Thiago Silva and still have the usual huge losses. Latest reports are that PSG have offered €42m plus a further €5m based on results. We want more of the money immediately. We are said to be pressing Vasco hard to release Dede this summer.
Antonio Cassano has told the media that Ibrahimovic would be right to be angry at the sale of Thiago Silva and that he (Cassano) may leave the club if the sale goes ahead.
The chaos begins/continues.
Galliani is back in Italy and refusing to comment. Silvio has reportedly changed his mind and doesn't want to sell...or refuses to sell for less than €50m in cash.
Leonardo says that negotiations are on-going but that it won't drag out and PSG could give up at any time or conversely strike an agreement.
Ibrahimovic expected to request a transfer if Thiago Silva leaves, Cassano likely to follow suit and Boateng publicly concerned.
Thiago Silva stays :>
I'm a day late with that.
Any truth behind this Flamani being released ?
Any truth behind this Flamani being released ?
Yes. We offered him a contract in May with wages of around €1.75m per season, down from €4.5m. He didn't respond to it so Galliani withdrew the offer two days ago.
As I've just posted in the Transfer Rumours thread, Flamini has now contacted the club asking for a meeting because he wants to stay.
And there was me thinking Wenger may do a sly deal.
And there was me thinking Wenger may do a sly deal.
Well there's certainly no guarantee we'll even agree to meet with him.
Dear lord, make Flamani sign or never know wenger after him and we can forget about M'Vila.
Really think Wenger would try and re-sign Flamini if the opportunity came around?
He really fucked Arsenal over last time, with the 'contract mind games' and such.
Bammers05
22-06-2012, 19:23
Pretty sure Wenger won't re-sign Flamini, seeing as we have an younger and, hopefully, more loyal version of him in Coquelin.
What kind salary is Flamani on?
What kind salary is Flamani on?
Yes. We offered him a contract in May with wages of around €1.75m per season, down from €4.5m. He didn't respond to it so Galliani withdrew the offer two days ago.
As I've just posted in the Transfer Rumours thread, Flamini has now contacted the club asking for a meeting because he wants to stay.
:> - the stupidity that comes with signing someone on a free. "Hey there's no transfer fee, let me make one up by giving this player a ridiculous wage!"
Damn, surely his not calibre of Davids, Guttuso, Seadorf were.
Earlier today, Thiago Silva and Zlatan Ibrahimovic were linked with a €65m move to Paris Saint-Germain with Ibrahimovic's agent Mino Raiola reportedly flying to Sweden to persuade his client to accept the move after holding four hours of talks with Adriano Galliani. The clubs are said to have agreed a deal but the sticking point is Ibrahimovic's disinterest in moving to France.
Thursday's Gazzetta dello Sport leads with a figure of €170m in savings for the club if the deal goes through: €62m from the transfer plus €108m saved on player wages (Ibra earns €9m per season which costs the club €18m per season).
This evening, Galliani has politely avoided journalists after holding further meetings with Ariedo Braida and Massimiliano Allegri. French media say the transfer fee will be €70m and it is clear the whole deal hinges on Ibrahimovic. The only thing Galliani did say is "You'll know something in the coming hours."
The general feeling is that if Ibrahimovic agrees to the move, Mino Raiola will immediately fly to Paris. There is a growing belief that the clubs have already agreed everything and are simply waiting to announce the deal.
EDIT: Should it go through, we will target a number of the following:
Kolarov, Xabi Alonso, Dzeko, Tevez, Dede, Matri, Matuzalem, Destro, (Lassana) Diarra.
Billy Minof
12-07-2012, 23:00
Silva and Ibra gone to PSG....
Link.
http://www.teamtalk.com/news/7555/7892570/PSG-make-49m-double-swoop
That shitcunt Railola is probably going to cash in big.
That shitcunt Railola is probably going to cash in big.
Oh he's certainly in line to do so from what I've been reading.
Billy Minof
13-07-2012, 12:22
Kaka back to Milan? All over the Spanish press....
I really hope not :facepalm:
According to reports the sales of Thiago Silva (more on him at the end) and Zlatan Ibrahimovic will be confirmed on Monday after Raiola spent over three hours finding an agreement with Leonardo.
Davide Astori, Mehdi Benatia (me want!), Danilo, Angelo Ogbonna and Rolando are the current names to replace Thiago Silva.
Mattia Destro, Edin Dzeko, Alessandro Matri, Giampaolo Pazzini and Carlos Tevez to replace Ibrahimovic. Tevez is first choice but I just can't see it happening.
Over at the shitter end of player quality, Djamel Mesbah has reportedly turned down a move to Torino. I'm not sure if this is because we rejected Marseille's approach or not.
Robinho is being linked with Santos again.
Finally, back to Thiago Silva who is said to be angry at the way we've treated him. One minute he was virtually sold to PSG, the next we pulled him from the market, then we gave him a new five-year deal and now we're packing him off again. He doesn't want to be seen as a mercenary and was happy to stay after agreeing a new deal which was seeing him earn less than he'd previously agreed with PSG. Hopefully he'll realise that no sensible Milan fan will see him in a bad light.
This is about that time when he punches himself for not having forced a move to Barcelona. :smug:
Carlos Tevez, Edin Dzeko and Leandro Damiao the three players we're meant to be having meetings about. Galliani wants Tevez, Allegri prefers Dzeko and I've no idea who thinks what about Damiao. I expect Van Persie's name to get tied up in this before too long.
Davide Astori appears to have renewed his contract with Cagliari. That might not mean anything when it comes to Milan (we renew Thiago Silva's contract then sell him down the river) but I seriously doubt Astori is going to move now.
If we had sense we'd try and get both Benatia and Armero in.
You know you're going to draw PSG in the group stages, right Sweey?
You know you're going to draw PSG in the group stages, right Sweey?
Haha yes already thought of that one. The two of them (if they both go) will rip us to shreds.
I haven't really felt anything about Thiago Silva's move this time around, perhaps resigned to the fact it was going to happen and there's nothing that can be done. That or because I'm dealing with other things at present. I'm neither up in arms nor resigned to a bleak future.
As for Ibrahimovic, my biggest concern is that he might stay. Needs to get his contract ironed out with PSG fast.
Yeah, you guys must get Ibra off your books. He is a guaranteed goal-mine in Serie A, but you're losing too much money by having him there.
I take it you guys aren't interested in Destro?
Destro?
http://www.yojoe.com/action/83/83card/destro.jpg
I thought however Destro had recently moved, sure I saw you post something about him Sweey.
Yeah, you guys must get Ibra off your books. He is a guaranteed goal-mine in Serie A, but you're losing too much money by having him there.
I take it you guys aren't interested in Destro?
We are but Carlos Tevez, Edin Dzeko and Leandro Damiao appear to be out first three choices in that order. Signing Destro is complicated anyway (see below).
Destro?
I thought however Destro had recently moved, sure I saw you post something about him Sweey.
What you saw was Siena (where he was on loan last season) activating their co-ownership option which complicated Genoa's life no end as they had already been in negotiations for a sale but now only have half of him to hand over anyway. Roma are favourites to acquire him following Borini's departure.
What you saw was Siena (where he was on loan last season) activating their co-ownership option which complicated Genoa's life no end as they had already been in negotiations for a sale but now only have half of him to hand over anyway. Roma are favourites to acquire him following Borini's departure.
Ah. That's what I saw. How good is Destro? I didn't see all that much Serie A action last season ... Samp were in Serie B after all.
Ah. That's what I saw. How good is Destro? I didn't see all that much Serie A action last season ... Samp were in Serie B after all.
He's still got work to do but last season he was very good (12 Serie A goals in 30 games for a team that scored 45 and finished 14th).
It was further confirmation of the glowing performances he consistently produced at youth and under-21 level. He's only 21 now so there's a belief that he will fulfil his potential and he ought to get regular Serie A action wherever he goes.
He's still got work to do but last season he was very good (12 Serie A goals in 30 games for a team that scored 45 and finished 14th).
It was further confirmation of the glowing performances he consistently produced at youth and under-21 level. He's only 21 now so there's a belief that he will fulfil his potential and he ought to get regular Serie A action wherever he goes.
He reminds of Roberto Acquafresca, he though doesn't seem to have been able to reach his full potential ... that or his good form at Cagliari was a flash in the pan. Speaking of him, is he still part owned by Inter?
He reminds of Roberto Acquafresca, he though doesn't seem to have been able to reach his full potential ... that or his good form at Cagliari was a flash in the pan. Speaking of him, is he still part owned by Inter?
No, Acquafresca is owned by Genoa and has been for a few years now. I think he was part of the Milito-Motta-Inter deal; it was definitely that summer anyway. Both players came through Inter's youth system but as is the way in Serie A, you can't get time at a big club if you're young.
Laters Thiago Silva, Zlats.
Our squad of 23 for tomorrow's Trofeo TIM matches against Inter Milan and Juventus in Bari:
Amelia, Narduzzo, Pazzagli; Acerbi, Albertazzi, Antonini, Bonera, De Sciglio, Iotti, Mesbah, Taiwo, Yepes; Ambrosini, Boateng, Cristante, Emanuelson, Traore, Valoti; Carmona, El Shaarawy, Ganz, Prosenik, Robinho.
Galliani: "Pronti a rimborsare gli abbonati non soddisfatti del mercato" :facepalm:
The club are happy to reimburse the season tickets of fans who aren't happy with the transfer market activity.
So not only are the numbers poor but Silvio is pleased to have again used us as a political toy. Sake.
Billy Minof
26-07-2012, 11:03
Kaka again being linked with a return to Milan....
Squad numbers for the season:
1 Marco AMELIA
2 Mattia DE SCIGLIO
4 Sulley MUNTARI
5 Philippe MEXES
8 Antonio NOCERINO
9 Alexandre PATO
10 Kevin Prince BOATENG
12 Bakaye TRAORE'
13 Francesco ACERBI
14 Rodney STRASSER
15 Djamel MESBAH
16 Mathieu FLAMINI
18 Riccardo MONTOLIVO
20 Ignazio ABATE
21 Kevin CONSTANT
23 Massimo AMBROSINI
25 Daniele BONERA
28 Urby EMANUELSON
32 Christian ABBIATI
59 GABRIEL
70 De Souza Robson ROBINHO
76 Mario YEPES
77 Luca ANTONINI
92 Stephan EL SHAARAWY
99 Antonio CASSANO
-Gabriel takes 59 :erm:
-De Sciglio switches from 52 to 2 (vacated by Taiwo)
-Acerbi takes 13 (vacated by Nesta)
-Muntari switches from 14 to 4 (vacated by Van Bommel)
-Strasser switches from 24 to 14 (vacated by Muntari)
-Traore takes 12
-Noceriino switches from 22 to 8 (vacated by Gattuso)
-Constant takes 21 (vacated by Maxi Lopez)
-Montolivo takes 18 (vacated by Aquilani)
-Pato swtiches from 7 to 9 (vacated by Inzaghi)
-Boateng switches from 27 to 10 which still means something in Italy (vacated by Seedorf and then Ibrahimovic)
No numbers for Taiwo or Didac Vila who have been using 19 and 35 respectively in friendlies.
Pato changing from 7 to 9 is a funny one.
22 being saved for Kaka Don?
Kevin Constant was on the verge of signing for us a couple of years ago, but for some strange reason the deal fell through at the last minute. I'm interested to see how he'll cope in Serie A.
22 being saved for Kaka Don?
It certainly seems like it. If he doesn't come, the shirt will likely remain unused this season.
Kevin Constant was on the verge of signing for us a couple of years ago, but for some strange reason the deal fell through at the last minute. I'm interested to see how he'll cope in Serie A.
He's already spent the last two seasons in Serie A with Chievo Verona and Genoa :huh: It was his performances for Chievo which got us interested.
Whats the latest with Taiwo?
I'm undecided now I've had time to reflect on his time at Loftus Road whether I'd want him back.
I think a return too Ligue 1 would be ideal for him.
22 being saved for Kaka Don?
:hmm: very likely...
Whats the latest with Taiwo?
I'm undecided now I've had time to reflect on his time at Loftus Road whether I'd want him back.
I think a return too Ligue 1 would be ideal for him.
No firm offers. Marseille were touted as being interested but it seems likely he'll be loaned out again instead. Benfica were a likely destination about three weeks ago but that seems to have gone quiet.
We beat Chelsea! (in a meaningless friendly). The season ends today! (because if it continues we'll be ridiculously shit).
I hear Oscar had ... not such a good game ... :serial:
I hear Oscar had ... not such a good game ... :serial:
He was so far off the pace that it was like he was in a different time zone :ninja:
Thing that worries me is that Chelsea are further ahead than Milan in pre season training, Milan didn't have their strongest team out and apart from a short spell after half time, Chelsea weren't dominant.
Thing that worries me is that Chelsea are further ahead than Milan in pre season training, Milan didn't have their strongest team out and apart from a short spell after half time, Chelsea weren't dominant.
I had been expecting you to give us a right going over.
Billy Minof
11-08-2012, 15:02
We beat Chelsea! (in a meaningless friendly). The season ends today! (because if it continues we'll be ridiculously shit).
Ye need some talent in your team ASAP.....did you watch the Madrid friendly the other night, the poorest Milan team I have seen in decades. :no:
Ye need some talent in your team ASAP.....did you watch the Madrid friendly the other night, the poorest Milan team I have seen in decades. :no:
I've purposely refused to watch any of our friendlies this pre-season because any wins are meaningless and the defeats are going to be hard to stomach.
It is true that the squad is being rejuvenated with younger Italians but our mistake is 12 big-name players leaving in one summer. It should have been a gradual process which started two years ago so that others had time to grow into the club.
We're going to have to make two panic signings because there are only 20 days to go before the transfer window closes.
We can't get Kaka on loan and Berlusconi refuses to spend €20m on anyone. We can't get Diarra on loan either. Borriello, unfortunately, is available on loan because Roma are desperate to get rid of him. Juventus want €16m for Matri - who, as with Borriello, I don't want anyway.
If it were up to me, I'd stump up ~€25m for Jovetic but that means we put money in and Silvio won't.
The only foreign invest I've ever wanted in Milan is from Gazprom. They've categorically denied that they are in negotiations to purchase 25-30% of the club for €180m so we're back to square one.
Makavelian
11-08-2012, 15:18
Are you going to change your user name for the upcoming season?
:<
Are you going to change your user name for the upcoming season?
:<
Good call. I shall consider it.
Excellent work with Galliani Joel.
The Silvio picture scares me :huh:
Unless you are female and underage or just over it, you're cool man.
Shirt number change: Robinho has decided to take the vacant number 7
Nicklas Bendtner, Marco Borriello, Alessandro Matri, Adrian Mutu, Giampaolo Pazzini and Giuseppe Rossi are all linked with us. We will sign only one.
Bendtner: Wages would surely be a problem so I can't see that one working out.
Borriello: Available for around €4m or perhaps even on loan though he rather than Roma would be opposed to a temporary transfer.
Matri: At €16m he is far too expensive for us.
Mutu: Worst option of the lot by some distance.
Pazzini: An excellent idea but one I do not see coming to fruition.
Rossi: The best of them all but won't be fit until January. Reports of an €11m asking price where we are only willing to offer €7-8m.
muscularmatt
18-08-2012, 20:37
How old is Mutu now? And he presumably looks like Diego Maradona now anyway, i.e. a fat cokehead.
How old is Mutu now? And he presumably looks like Diego Maradona now anyway, i.e. a fat cokehead.
He's 33 and not at all. Problem is he has an attitude problem which isn't new and he was relatively useless for Cesena last season when they were relying on him hugely.
muscularmatt
18-08-2012, 22:20
He'd just be a squad player if you did sign him though, how the hell's he going to get into the team with the other attackers in that squad?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/be/El-Shaarawy.jpg
Milano Shore?
He'd just be a squad player if you did sign him though, how the hell's he going to get into the team with the other attackers in that squad?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/be/El-Shaarawy.jpg
Milano Shore?
:lol:
The player we're looking for must be a focal point of the attack in some form.
Allegri wants a tall striker - a target man - which is why Bendtner, Matri and Borriello (who, this evening is "edging closer to staying at Roma") are on our list of targets.
If we can't get a target man there's always the option of a smaller, more dynamic forward which is generally Galliani's preferred option. That's where Rossi fits in. Mutu six years ago would also fit in here but now? That would make everything so far this summer so much worse than it already is.
Pazzini, the remaining member of the six I mentioned earlier today, is a pure finisher. A penalty-box striker and a better one than he was a few years ago. He would offer us something different.
muscularmatt
18-08-2012, 23:28
Is Cassano shit now then?
Is Cassano shit now then?
Not at all but he's unhappy that Ibrahimovic (they were best friends) and Thiago Silva have left the club. He is having a meeting with Galliani this week to talk about his role at the club this season and reportedly seeking assurances that money will be invested in the team.
Because of the way things are at the club at the moment, if he says he's not happy we'll likely tell him to go and fuck himself.
You have to remember we've currently got only four attackers - Cassano (playmaker with amazing creativity who is shy when it comes to shooting), El Shaarawy (young inside forward who is more biased towards creativity but likes to dribble at people), Robinho (not a finisher) and Pato (relies heavily on confidence and has a ridiculously bad injury record).
Billy Minof
19-08-2012, 14:08
Looks as though the Kaka deal is dead, Madrid wont sell him for less than 20m and Milan wont go above it, LA Galaxy is his most likely destination, I expect him to go but I would like to see him stay if the price is not right.
muscularmatt
19-08-2012, 14:22
Want a proven goalscorer at the top level? Someone who can feed off the creativity of those other players? Steven Fletcher, yours for £22 million.
Want a proven goalscorer at the top level? Someone who can feed off the creativity of those other players? Steven Fletcher, yours for £22 million.
We've got a maximum of £10m to spend on three players Matt that's the whole problem in the first place :tongue:
Can we have him on loan with an obligation to buy for £50m if he plays in 105% of our matches this season? :galliani:
Looks as though the Kaka deal is dead, Madrid wont sell him for less than 20m and Milan wont go above it, LA Galaxy is his most likely destination, I expect him to go but I would like to see him stay if the price is not right.
We're not even willing to spend €10m from what I've heard. If €20m is available, I don't understand why we aren't thinking sensibly rather than sentimentally and trying to sign a good striker.
Billy Minof
19-08-2012, 15:43
We're not even willing to spend €10m from what I've heard. If €20m is available, I don't understand why we aren't thinking sensibly rather than sentimentally and trying to sign a good striker.
Berbatov for 5...???
Kaka to Man Utd is after coming out of the blue and Fergie has said that he may bring in one more player.
16:53
Berbatov for 5...???
But then his wages (and shit attitude) are a problem as is also a secondary issue with Kaka. Berbatov has been in talks with Zenit for a while so hopefully he won't come into the running - his agent previously tried to get us interested. I also cringe at Berbatov's age.
Kaka to Man Utd is after coming out of the blue and Fergie has said that he may bring in one more player.
I don't believe going to England would be in Kaka's best interests at this stage of his career although that doesn't mean he won't do so.
Genoa owner Enrico Preziosi says that he believes Galliani has a target in mind who likes the club. We'll see.
19:28
MILAN: Abbiati, Abate, Zapata, Yepes, Antonini, Flamini, Montolivo, Constant, Boateng, Emanuelson, Robihno
JUVENTUS: Storari, Barzagli, Lucio, De Ceglie, Padoin, Vidal, Marrone, Pogba, Marchisio, Giovinco, Vucinic
Here we go again.
We are going to be so bad this season! The defending so far (we're losing 3-1, had been 1-0 up early on) has been little short of laughable. For the third, Matri nearly scored after dribbling between three defenders (:huh:) and was then left completely unmarked from the resulting corner.
So what if we replace Cassano with Pazzini? We still need to buy three players which leaves us with a squad of 30 and that is too big. We don't have players who can be trusted enough in our existing 27, that's where the problem is.
Pazzini signed (approximately €7m plus Cassano), Ze Eduardo in on loan.
However, the season must end now:
Italian: http://www.acmilan.com/it/news/breaking_news_show/29944
Yes, he's injured AGAIN.
Dundon's
22-08-2012, 17:13
Jesus, was only talking about him the other day to one of the lads, wtf is going on with him? Such a promising talent.
No worries though :bendtner:
Jesus, was only talking about him the other day to one of the lads, wtf is going on with him? Such a promising talent.
They keep saying it is the way his muscles grew and that not everything grew in proportion causing stress on certain areas. He keeps going away, getting fit, coming back and then either getting injured in training or in a match. Always muscular injuries as well. I think this is something stupid like his 15th injury in 15 months.
This is the whole reason I was angry when Berlusconi stopped our sale to PSG back in January. We were about to pocket €30-35m for an injury-ravaged striker. Perhaps his problems would clear up at PSG or another club but I have no faith in them clearing up at Milan. We've even changed some of our medical staff.
Because Pato is a confidence player he now never performs. If he plays long enough to start performing, he gets injured and we're back at square one.
No worries though :bendtner:
If his wages weren't so high, we'd have probably gone there. If Pato's injury is serious, Mexes-Bendtner may suddenly become a reality.
They keep saying it is the way his muscles grew and that not everything grew in proportion causing stress on certain areas. He keeps going away, getting fit, coming back and then either getting injured in training or in a match. Always muscular injuries as well. I think this is something stupid like his 15th injury in 15 months.
This is the whole reason I was angry when Berlusconi stopped our sale to PSG back in January. We were about to pocket €30-35m for an injury-ravaged striker. Perhaps his problems would clear up at PSG or another club but I have no faith in them clearing up at Milan. We've even changed some of our medical staff.
Because Pato is a confidence player he now never performs. If he plays long enough to start performing, he gets injured and we're back at square one.
If his wages weren't so high, we'd have probably gone there. If Pato's injury is serious, Mexes-Bendtner may suddenly become a reality.
Don't say that.
I think we're looking for someone more versatile. Which is why Yanga-Mbiwa would be perfect.
Don't say that.
I think we're looking for someone more versatile. Which is why Yanga-Mbiwa would be perfect.
Rumours are we're going to make another bid for him at the end of the window. Mexes was linked with United today as well - we're desperate to be rid this month.
If Pato's injury is short-term, we will complete a loan deal for Ze Eduardo (:huh:). If Pato's injury is long-term, we will almost certainly cancel the Ze Eduardo deal and look for another target man.
AgentZero
22-08-2012, 22:44
rough end of the deal there for Arsenal (Mexes-Bendtner)
being a yuppie: sent from iPhone
The Italian media are adamant that there are huge problems in the relationship between Allegri and Galliani now and that the former threatened to resign over the Ze Eduardo business.
To provide a background, Ze Eduardo is 24 and has scored something like 12 league goals in his career to date - 10 of those came in a single season two or so years ago.
Galliani agreed a loan deal with (Genoa president) Enrico Preziosi - in Italy, presidents or acting presidents sign the players and will consult with the coach depending on their experience or record with the club to date - with an option to purchase next summer.
Allegri insisted that the decision should have been his and that he would only grant Ze Eduardo a trial for the remainder of the month before deciding anything. In fact, Allegri is meant to have met Ze Eduardo and said "I don't even know what kind of player you are". As it transpires, Ze Eduardo rejected the requirement of a trial.
Today, we have reportedly just had a positive answer from Caen in response to our offer for M'Baye Niang (€1.75m loan with an option to purchase for around €4.25m next summer). Galliani has been invited by Real Madrid to attend the second leg of the Spanish Super Cup with a view to further talks over Kaka.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8015072/
http://static.themetapicture.com/media/funny-gif-Ed-ONeil-laughing.gif
Can't happen at the moment, he's non-EU and we don't have any slots open.
Thank fuck for that
Good to see Antonio Cassano returning to his true behaviour and immediately fitting into the Inter ideal.
"Above Milan there is only sky and above the sky is Inter"
"I thank Silvio Berlusconi who helped me a lot (:unsure:) and Barbara Berlusconi too (:erm:). I also thank Tavana who saved my life and Tassotti who was the only one I got on with".
"I arrive at Inter because there is a success"
Abysmal - and that's why I read the Arsenal thread and almost laugh at some of the comments. They're cheaper than we are? They're in a worse position than we are? No.
Two efforts off the post, two great saves from Romero and a clearance off the line but pathetic.
:galliani:
Abysmal - and that's why I read the Arsenal thread and almost laugh at some of the comments. They're cheaper than we are? They're in a worse position than we are? No.
Two efforts off the post, two great saves from Romero and a clearance off the line but pathetic.
:galliani:
Still ... fantastic result for Samp. Proud of the lads :cool:
21:54
With the seemingly imminent official announcement of Niang's arrival and Galliani tonight saying the Kaka business is "closed", it is worth noting that our board of directors are meeting tomorrow.
23:26
A transcript from an interview Cassano had with an Italian newspaper on May 20th has just been released. Not all of the transcript made it into the paper - it never does.
Two points are interesting. When holding his press conference upon signing for Inter he stated that someone (Galliani) did not contact him while he was in hospital and that someone (Galliani again) promised him a contract renewal/wage increase and then did nothing about it.
In the interview on May 20th, he said that Galliani was in regular contact with him and acted "like a father" - something I recall reading at the time. Here's a further quote from the transcript:
"I have the date of 2014 - I keep this aside for now, I do not care. I want to go out there and feel good, then in 2014 we will see whether to renew, I want to stay here for as long as possible, but we'll see in 2014 because I want to feel good, be a player who plays because it's good, not just out of compassion. I want Milan to remember me as a great player, not as a ridiculous one. Here at Milan everyone treats you like a king, its like living a fairy tale"
Mental cunt.
Gerard Piqué @3gerardpique
Felicitats Bojan!! 22 anys i nou jugador del AC Milan!! Molta sort bokrkic!!
Gerard Piqué @3gerardpique
Felicitats Bojan!! 22 anys i nou jugador del AC Milan!! Molta sort bokrkic!!
Posts like this aren't advisabel any longer due to what the @ is going to try and do.
Bojan has arrived at Linate airport in Milan while Robinho has been ruled out for 3-4 weeks with injury.
WALK_ON_GR33N
02-09-2012, 02:49
AC Milan played decently today, even if Agliardi gifted them the points. De Jong looks like Ambrosini's successor in the anchor spot in front of the defence. Agliardi looked solid for the most part and Montolivo played well before he departed. Pazzini started the his stint with Inter in the same manner as today with a hat-trick, so it is hard to tell if he will continue his form.
AC Milan played decently today, even if Agliardi gifted them the points. De Jong looks like Ambrosini's successor in the anchor spot in front of the defence. Agliardi looked solid for the most part and Montolivo played well before he departed. Pazzini started the his stint with Inter in the same manner as today with a hat-trick, so it is hard to tell if he will continue his form.
I disagree - I don't think we were decent at all.
You're incorrect to say De Jong is Ambrosini's successor. De Jong is Van Bommel's successor - Ambrosini is club captain but won't necessarily play a lot this season, as with last, unless there are injuries to players in certain positions.
"Agliardi looked solid for the most part" - did you mean him or were you supposed to reference Acerbi? Acerbi, Bonera and De Sciglio (defensively) were poor.
I also thought Montolivo was poor and Pazzini did well but it was just one game. He's different to all of our other strikers and used those characteristics yesterday.
WALK_ON_GR33N
02-09-2012, 16:46
I disagree - I don't think we were decent at all.
You're incorrect to say De Jong is Ambrosini's successor. De Jong is Van Bommel's successor - Ambrosini is club captain but won't necessarily play a lot this season, as with last, unless there are injuries to players in certain positions.
"Agliardi looked solid for the most part" - did you mean him or were you supposed to reference Acerbi? Acerbi, Bonera and De Sciglio (defensively) were poor.
I also thought Montolivo was poor and Pazzini did well but it was just one game. He's different to all of our other strikers and used those characteristics yesterday.
*De Jong is the successor to the DM position at the club, in which Ambrosini was playing in yesterday. You were decent and that was considering everyone thought Milan were going to falter yet again. Acerbi looked solid for the most part. Acerbi made some challenges and was decent in the air. Bonera and De Sciglio were poor though. Montolivo wasn't that bad. You can't measure this Milan team comparing it to the last one. New players, new tactics, and new styles.
*De Jong is the successor to the DM position at the club, in which Ambrosini was playing in yesterday.
...and Montolivo was playing there last week. Van Bommel was our regular first-choice defensive midfielder and we're in a new season after his departure. De Jong was signed as Van Bommel's successor.
You were decent and that was considering everyone thought Milan were going to falter yet again.
We were very poor.
Montolivo wasn't that bad.
He was nearly useless. Nocerino also had a poor game.
You can't measure this Milan team comparing it to the last one. New players, new tactics, and new styles.
I'm not comparing it to the last team, I'm comparing it to what is acceptable for a club of our stature. If we play to this standard in the Champions League we're going to take a thumping in the group stage and we haven't even got one of Europe's top ten clubs in there with us.
Sabatasso
04-09-2012, 21:41
You are aware that you're disagreeing with WOG, who according to himself has written articles for goal.com because he knows more about football than the rest of us?
Makavelian
04-09-2012, 21:51
I keep thinking of this every time someone shortens his name.
http://canadiankingdom.files.wordpres s.com/2011/03/003.jpg
I don't think people started calling him that unintentionally:ninja:
Sabatasso
04-09-2012, 22:22
lol, what the hell is that?
Makavelian
04-09-2012, 22:25
:D
A very racist doll that used to be popular In Britain.
Calling a black person a 'wog' is just as bad as using the the'N' word.
Sabatasso
04-09-2012, 22:36
ah... I had no idea.
I've touched upon a similar subject during English (or was it contemporary American?) history though, there were several "negro achetypes" of sort, where the busty woman some sort of "succubus" and the "thin smiling negro" (not unlike that doll) was some sort of joker, but I can't remember the actual names.
Adriano Galliani is being linked with a move into the offices of the Lega Calcio with Barbara Berlusconi replacing him as vice-president, Paolo Maldini coming in as director of sport and Claudio Fennucci (currently at Roma) also joining.
Not of Galliani's choosing if all is to be believed. Can't say I'm in favour of this happening should it come to pass.
chelsea11
02-10-2012, 11:56
How do you rate your chances against Zenit? Didn't see any of the first match, but a 0-0 isn't great by any means. And by 'not great' I mean, shit.
How do you rate your chances against Zenit? Didn't see any of the first match, but a 0-0 isn't great by any means. And by 'not great' I mean, shit.
We've got a chance to get a draw but only because they're bloody awful at the moment. We have improved in the last couple of games but are still very, very poor.
The ratings of last night's shit referee Paolo Valeri:
GAZZETTA DELLO SPORT: VALERI, 4: Su Handanovic vede un fallo che non c'è e nega a Montolivo il gol dell'1-1. La partita gli sfugge di mano. Inadeguato.
CORRIERE DELLO SPORT: VALERI, 4.5: Commette diversi errori. Il gol di Montolivo è buono. Grazia Juan Jesus. Giusta la doppia ammonizione a Nagatomo.
TUTTOSPORT: VALERI 4.5: Emanuelson dà l'impressione di fermarsi sull'uscita di Handanovic.Giusta la seconda ammonizione a Nagatomo. Samuel va dritto su Robinho. Direzione non all'altezza.
CORRIERE DELLA SERA: VALERI, 4: Valeri direttore di gara con un metro di giudizio a spanne, clamoroso abbaglio sul contrasto di Emanuelson con Handanovic.
LA REPUBBLICA, VALERI, 4: Al di là degli episodi contestati, su cui sbaglia, è nella conduzione della gara che fallisce: legge spesso al contrario falli e falletti. Tecnicamente un disastro.
IL GIORNALE: VALERI, 5: Sbaglia ad annullare il gol di Montolivo.
We weren't good but the officiating did us in.
IronCity
08-10-2012, 20:37
Help me out sweey. For the last two weeks are U.S. pundits have been going on about Mattia Valoti. Giving him the heir apparent crown after Pirlo retires. When I found out he was 19 I laughed. How do you rate this kid?
Help me out sweey. For the last two weeks are U.S. pundits have been going on about Mattia Valoti. Giving him the heir apparent crown after Pirlo retires. When I found out he was 19 I laughed. How do you rate this kid?
Are you sure they've not been trying to talk about Paris Saint-Germain's Marco Verratti?
Valoti I don't particularly rate - he's young, he's an (attacking) midfielder and he's stuck in our youth team. That says it all really.
IronCity
08-10-2012, 20:46
Are you sure they've not been trying to talk about Paris Saint-Germain's Marco Verratti?
Valoti I don't particularly rate - he's young, he's an (attacking) midfielder and he's stuck in our youth team. That says it all really.
I stand corrected. Although my mistake was the fact that they messed it up twice, fixed, messed up again. Plus the host is a big AC Milan fan so I got all scrambled with Valoti but it is Verratti. Sorry for the confusion.
I stand corrected. Although my mistake was the fact that they messed it up twice, fixed, messed up again. Plus the host is a big AC Milan fan so I got all scrambled with Valoti but it is Verratti. Sorry for the confusion.
Well regarding Verratti, I was impressed with him last season - but that was Serie B remember - and he's reportedly done decently for PSG this season. The "next Pirlo" tag isn't helpful though because that's what the older Andrea Poli of Sampdoria is supposed to be. Verratti is certainly a hugely promising player but people need to leave him alone a bit. He should thrive under Ancelotti.
Latest ownership gossip: Berlusconi has "decided" to sell "30%" of the club for "€250m" to the Qatari sovereign wealth fund.
Yeah. We'll see.
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I watched this on Tuesday and had to keep from touching myself it was so impressive.
He is only 14 so I'm tempering my own expectations. Certainly shnoe during the match though.
That goal after about 30 seconds was rather exquisite. Having the footballing brain to do something like that rather than showing off with a lot of those tricks is more impressive to me.
You tend to get these young trickster-type players appearing a lot on Youtube. This guy does seem to have some sort of end product though, so with the right training, he could be a big star.
I actually came to this thread to post that vid. :lol:
Sweey, it's concerning that you have to force yourself from touching yourself over videos of 14 yr old boys. :huh:
Viperized
19-10-2012, 12:26
Wha.... :huh:
I shall not dig a bigger hole for myself (:huh:) by commenting further.
We signed him from Reggiana for around €500,000 during the summer and there was....well not hype but enough attention paid to the acquisition as people were raving about his abilities.
Billy Minof
19-10-2012, 14:22
I watched this on Tuesday and had to keep from touching myself it was so impressive.
He is only 14 so I'm tempering my own expectations. Certainly shnoe during the match though.
Very impressive........one to keep an eye out for in the near future.
foosh_pes
22-10-2012, 23:03
Lets not forget that Maldini was playing first team at 16. The bar has been set, if this kid doesn't match it, he won't be shit.
Lets not forget that Maldini was playing first team at 16. The bar has been set, if this kid doesn't match it, he won't be shit.
He's not even in our primavera team yet so there's no danger of him playing for the first team at 16. Unless we're in Serie B at that stage....
Meyyappan
23-10-2012, 18:01
Lets not forget that Maldini was playing first team at 16. The bar has been set, if this kid doesn't match it, he won't be shit.
Cesc,Ronaldo,C.Ronaldo,Rooney, Messi were all out of the blocks by 17 years so if he is good enough he is old enough.
Finally produced our first decent performance of the season last weekend in our 5-1 demolition of Chievo Verona. The midweek draw with Malaga has hurt us though as we now need to win at Anderlecht (three days after we go to Napoli and four days before we host Juventus) and then not lose at home to Zenit. I expect both will probably beat Malaga now that they've qualified and can rest players.
M'Baye Niang, Bakaye Traore and Robinho are all strongly linked with transfers in January. In the case of Robinho it is presumably due to him wanting to return to Brazil although there is interest from Fenerbahce which wouldn't exactly resolve his problem.
Traore has featured once or at a stretch twice this season and hasn't convinced Allegri at all so looks set to go back to France.
Niang is an idiot. Not content with being caught driving without a licence and subsequently pretending to be Traore he's now been banned from the French setup until December 31, 2013 for going clubbing while on duty with the under-21s without permission. We're dismayed by his lack of professionalism so want rid.
There is money to spend in January if we reach the group stage of the CL and, we're told, further money next summer.
Galliani has "negotiated a €15m buy-out clause" for Bojan who in the last two weeks has suddenly started performing well. Once his temporary form leaves him, we're going to have problems again. His ability to carry the ball from midfield and run at people is helping others to find space.
El Shaarawy has been in good goalscoring form, Montolivo has had a couple of consecutive dominant performances in midfield and Emanuelson has been one of our most creative and consistent players this season.
On the flip side, Pato is lazy, Bonera still doesn't understand when to step up and execute the offside trap and our wing-backs are pretty poor. Constant is getting better in an unfamiliar left-back role but his early performances there were laughable.
Berlusconi has admitted that he can't spare the necessary time to be close to the club. Fans are convinced he is seeking investment and will not put large sums into the club in order to present the club as a self-sufficient entity.
Finally produced our first decent performance of the season last weekend in our 5-1 demolition of Chievo Verona. The midweek draw with Malaga has hurt us though as we now need to win at Anderlecht (three days after we go to Napoli and four days before we host Juventus) and then not lose at home to Zenit. I expect both will probably beat Malaga now that they've qualified and can rest players.
M'Baye Niang, Bakaye Traore and Robinho are all strongly linked with transfers in January. In the case of Robinho it is presumably due to him wanting to return to Brazil although there is interest from Fenerbahce which wouldn't exactly resolve his problem.
Traore has featured once or at a stretch twice this season and hasn't convinced Allegri at all so looks set to go back to France.
Niang is an idiot. Not content with being caught driving without a licence and subsequently pretending to be Traore he's now been banned from the French setup until December 31, 2013 for going clubbing while on duty with the under-21s without permission. We're dismayed by his lack of professionalism so want rid.
There is money to spend in January if we reach the group stage of the CL and, we're told, further money next summer.
Galliani has "negotiated a €15m buy-out clause" for Bojan who in the last two weeks has suddenly started performing well. Once his temporary form leaves him, we're going to have problems again. His ability to carry the ball from midfield and run at people is helping others to find space.
El Shaarawy has been in good goalscoring form, Montolivo has had a couple of consecutive dominant performances in midfield and Emanuelson has been one of our most creative and consistent players this season.
On the flip side, Pato is lazy, Bonera still doesn't understand when to step up and execute the offside trap and our wing-backs are pretty poor. Constant is getting better in an unfamiliar left-back role but his early performances there were laughable.
Berlusconi has admitted that he can't spare the necessary time to be close to the club. Fans are convinced he is seeking investment and will not put large sums into the club in order to present the club as a self-sufficient entity.
Yeah, quite glad we didn't get him now. It's a similar issue with M'Vila. Talented but completely throwing his career away.
Bammers05
07-12-2012, 23:32
New Milan physio:
http://www.101greatgoals.com/wp-content/gallery/gimages/ac-milan-new-physio.jpg
:hmm:
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