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Billy Minof
14-06-2006, 11:19
Ye are talking about Spanish strikers not doing well over in Italy, but how many have gone over there?
Strikers: Javi Moreno, Jose Mari (both at Milan so we know first-hand). This is also when Javi Moreno was brilliant and Jose Mari was a better player than he is now.
Gaizka Mendieta and Ivan De La Pena were hopeless at Lazio too. Josep Guardiola played for Brescia for a little while, though it wouldn't be fair to include him due to the circumstances.
That's more than enough for me. I don't want Fernando Torres, he's overrated and his season would go the way Ibrahimovic's did - without doing well for a long time like Ibrahimovic did in the first place.
Billy Minof
14-06-2006, 11:32
Strikers: Javi Moreno, Jose Mari (both at Milan so we know first-hand). This is also when Javi Moreno was brilliant and Jose Mari was a better player than he is now.
Gaizka Mendieta and Ivan De La Pena were hopeless at Lazio too. Josep Guardiola played for Brescia for a little while, though it wouldn't be fair to include him due to the circumstances.
That's more than enough for me. I don't want Fernando Torres, he's overrated and his season would go the way Ibrahimovic's did - without doing well for a long time like Ibrahimovic did in the first place.
Well that is only 2 strikers out of the whole of Spanish history so you cannot say that Spanish players cannot do well in Italy.
Mendieta has proven how good he is when done well in both Spain and England while De La Pena did play some good matches in Italy but the game was too slow for him.(so he says)
I think Torres would be a good player for ye, he is better than what ye have anyway, he is also young, would you prefer to have Crespo or another old player to add to yere collection.
Well I'm not waiting until every single Spanish striker moves to Italy and fucks up before saying it would be a bad signing.
I forgot Portillo at Fiorentina too - but he's young and didn't get the greatest chance.
How is Fernando Torres better than what we have? Inzaghi and Gilardino are far better. Of course, nobody at Milan presently does the job Fernando Torres would do - but Tevez and Suazo, the two I want, would.
The players I want us to sign (and it is well within our budget):
William Gallas (Chelsea)
Emiliano Moretti (Valencia)
Massimo Oddo (Lazio)
Javier Mascherano (Corinthians)
Carlos Tevez (Corinthians)
And if we couldn't get Tevez then Suazo would be a good signing.
EDIT: Oh yeah, Gourcuff would be good too ;)
Billy Minof
14-06-2006, 12:29
The players you mentioned are all good players but all I am saying is that I think Torres would do a great job for ye and he is also young.
Tevez has alot to prove and might not also be able for the Italian game so ye would be taking a big chance with him also and I believe his buy out clause is about 70mil.
Well that is only 2 strikers out of the whole of Spanish history so you cannot say that Spanish players cannot do well in Italy.
Mendieta has proven how good he is when done well in both Spain and England while De La Pena did play some good matches in Italy but the game was too slow for him.(so he says)Mendieta has done absolutely nothing for Middlesbrough apart from only turning up when he can be arsed, ie he doesn't fancy away trips to the likes of Bolton
My opinion of Fernando Torres has not changed after the Spain game. Tevez would work well in Italy but he'd need a period to settle in. Argentines are well suited to the Italian league and I do not consider him to be a risk.
Former Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi has taken back the position of president of AC Milan.
Berlusconi gave up the presidency in December 2004 to avoid a conflict of interests and became free to take up the role again after his defeat in Italy's general election in April.
The Serie A club's website hailed the return of its "spiritual guide, its number one fan and its true president".
No one acted as Milan's president during Berlusconi's absence. Since Berlusconi bought it in 1986, Milan has enjoyed one of the most successful periods in its history, winning seven Serie A titles and becoming European champions four times.
"It's great news for our fans. There was a blank space in the organisation chart," the club's vice-president Adriano Galliani was quoted as saying in La Gazzetta dello Sport on Friday.
"The great players come and go. The real plus is him."
His return coincides with troubled times for the club, which has failed to win a trophy in the past two seasons and -- along with Juventus, Fiorentina and Lazio -- is under investigation as part of an Italian Football Federation (FIGC) probe into allegations of match-fixing in Serie A.
Galliani is among the high-profile figures from Italian football to be questioned by magistrates.
Last month Milan denied accusations of wrongdoing after a newspaper published phone taps in which Leonardo Meani -- a member of the club's management -- spoke to the official in charge of assigning linesmen to top games in April 2005 to complain about a linesman after Milan lost to Siena.
Clubs found guilty of attempting to influence the outcome of matches face penalties including relegation and having points deducted at the start of next season.
Italian soccer commissioner, Guido Rossi, said on Thursday that he expected the FIGC investigation to be completed at the start of next week.
Hope we're not found to be involved.
Rumours are circulating that Milan have agreed a fee of £20.5m with Atletico Madrid for Fernando Torres. Some even go as far as to claim he has signed a five-year deal with Milan but that nothing will be confirmed to the public until after the World Cup.
From www.acmilan.com
From today's La Gazzetta dello Sport: Galliani contacted by Meani: 'Good-day, doctor. I know you have already spoken to Puglisi (a linesman) ... We simply remember that the telephone calls follow a series of demands for recommendations which Galliani, in the name of Puglisi, closes the conversation with a "Eh, yes if only" that cuts any discussion and any possible development. We remember that this call refers to May 31, 2005 and that Puglisi was already retired and was an ex-linesman, in as much as his activities had concluded at the end of the championship.'
In today's Corriere della Sera: The last interceptions from the Naples investigations (with Meani who promises a hair transplant for a referee to thank him for his services) has not improved the Rossoneri club's position in relation to the others. 'We simply record that for the Investigations Office it is unknown in truth if all the interceptions have been acquired in contemporary from the Naples Power of Attorney and in this context it is difficult to imagine that it can make use for 'the final hour' such as to change the overall picture of all the information gathered. It is also correct to emphasize that the 'service' refers to the Milan-Brescia game which finished 1-1 and in which the episode under discussion was the tackle from behind on Cafu in the Brescia area in the first half.'
From Forza Milan! the June 2006 edition: 'The practical Milan will also be an issue' as some have written but from the hundreds of pages, we have always read the same 40 lines.' Then, 15 days later, in one newspaper then another: 'Every reference to the famous hair transplant which has been published over the last weeks is purely accidental.'
We close with what Tuttosport has said: 'As far as Udinese-Milan, nothing illicit has been found, neither tried, neither consumed ...'
AC Milan rebel against the organised media’s campaign which is inspired by motives that do not concern exclusively the right to information.
There are entirely arbitrary theories of a ‘Milan system’ by misinterpreting snippets of phone conversations, bending the wise words of FIGC Commissioner Guido Rossi and trying to turn a cordial meeting between Adriano Galliani and Prof. Guido Rossi into an interrogation.
The final aim of this campaign of misinformation is manifest: they intend to transfer the investigation and its verdicts elsewhere, struggling to generate a concert of malicious suggestions to those who must analyse and decide.
Nobody from these newspapers has tried to transcribe, nor even probably to read, the original information provided by the Lazio police in their investigations so far which clearly state: 'The evidence acquired thus far reinforce the investigative theory that Luciano Moggi has absolute power over the entire football system. It’s an even more alarming situation due to the exclusivity of this power, next to which there is no counter-balance able to contrast it' (source: the Lazio-based Carabinieri police on January 21, 2006 and printed in L'Espresso).
Wonder if this counts should we end up in Serie B (or C1):
RENNES, France, June 21 (Reuters) - French teenage midfielder Yohann Gourcuff will join AC Milan from Stade Rennes, the Ligue 1 club said on Wednesday.
Rennes said in statement they had reached an agreement with the Italian club over the 19-year-old and it would be a proper transfer, not a loan.
They did not give any details about the length of the contract or the transfer fee.
A French under-21 international, the gifted Gourcuff was being chased by several European clubs.
Milan news:
Adriano Galliani is to leave his position as president of the Italian League but insists his innocence despite being named as one of 26 people facing investigation over the match-fixing, referee-handpicking scandal. Milan are facing the possibility of relegation if found guilty of sporting fraud which we are charged with.
Strangely, this is also the same time Kaka has announced that he's signed a contract extension. I've questioned his commitment to the club since Shevchenko's departure - and I'm not entirely convinced as his contract is void if we get relegated anyway. Good news to a point though.
When the big man talks, we listen and take note:
AC Milan president Silvio Berlusconi has declared new signing Yoann Gourcuff is good enough to be a regular next season.
The France U21 international signed for Milan last week from Rennes and Berlusconi said: "Gourcuff is a boy prodigy.
"I have an idea for next season: he could play behind the forwards with Kaka, taking advantage of their individual qualities."
some nice work there, don't suppose you do much updates on inter news
some nice work there, don't suppose you do much updates on inter news
I could, but I'm a Milan fan so this is news I search for in particular. Check the Serie A thread for general news: http://www.pesinsight.com/showthread.php?t=34038&page=26
yeah thanks I'll keep an eye on that thread more often
Cesare Maldini speaking about Gourcuff:
Cesare Maldini has applauded the transfer line taken by Milan in signing youngster Yoann Gourcuff. The legendary club captain said: ’’We have had him watched plenty of times by our scouts and each time it has been positive. He’s an attacking midfielder, great speed, covers the ground, good skill, he makes an excellent impression.’
we seriously need to worry about regelation more than striker situation right now.
We're doing what we can regarding the match-fixing trial and generally not thinking about transfers until after the World Cup which just so happens to be when we'll know what division we're in next season.
Right now the World Cup's over and before any initial punishments are handed out over the match-fixing scandal:
Kaka is a mercenary. If I were in Berlusconi's position right now and Real Madrid came to me with a £35m offer I'd say yes and be rid of him. He does not hold the club in high esteem the way Shevchenko did, the way Gattuso and Maldini do. He has not been with the club long enough - nor given enough - to be acting the way he is and whether we stay up or not and whether he stays with us or not, he's going to have to do a lot to win me over but in all honesty I don't think he'll stay and therefore I do not believe he will win me over.
Billy Minof
10-07-2006, 13:29
Sweey, What time is the decision due today?
Don't know. Part of me thinks it won't be announced until tomorrow.
How right you were, Sweey
Billy Minof
11-07-2006, 08:57
So what time today?
No such information is being released - basically as we won the World Cup. The papers are more interested in that at present. We could be looking at Wednesday or Thursday although I'll be keeping an eye out today for breaking news.
Someone's just told me Lazio are down?
Someone's just told me Lazio are down?
No news as yet. You can imagine what I do moments after something like that gets posted :huh: (no, not cry :tongue:)
Billy Minof
11-07-2006, 11:19
You must be fair worried,
Also is Buffon on the way to Milan?
You must be fair worried,
Also is Buffon on the way to Milan?
Very worried.
Regarding Buffon - according to his agent yes. Italian media have picked up the story on two separate occasions prior to his agent's comments as well, and it is widely reported that Dida is refusing to sign a contract extension.
Only from The Sun mind....
CHELSEA are planning a £12million swoop for Italy defender Alessandro Nesta.
The Blues have already plundered AC Milan once this summer to sign £30m striker Andriy Shevchenko.
Now boss Jose Mourinho wants Nesta, robbed of a place in the World Cup final victory over France by injury, to bolster his backline.
Chelsea are monitoring the match-fixing case soon to decide AC’s fate next season. If Milan are relegated to Serie B, the Premiership champs aim to bag a bargain.
A source close to the San Siro giants revealed: “Chelsea have made an enquiry.
The deal would depend on AC Milan being relegated.
Basically, Chelsea have said ‘If the worst comes to the worst for you, don’t sell Nesta to anyone else. We will pay more and definitely want him’.”
The Azzurri ace, 30, missed the last four games of the World Cup after damaging his groin in the final Group E match against the Czech Republic.
Valencia have made an official approach for Chelsea’s £5.5m-rated left-back ASIER DEL HORNO.
Del Horno is recovering from a knee problem.
mufcsean
12-07-2006, 02:53
12 million for nesta he is very good still but he is getting on a bit now, and regarding buffon what if juve AND milan are relegated then where will he go??
The Nesta story is quite interesting. Initially Chelsea wanted Nesta, then they decided they wanted Cannavaro and lost all interest in Nesta and now that Cannavaro is seemingly off to Real Madrid, they want Nesta. He's not as good as he used to be, unfortunately, but still capable of being absolutely incredible.
Billy Minof
12-07-2006, 09:52
Would be a great deal if they could get him for that price.
As Sweey said not as good as he was but still better than most of what is out there.
Would Gallas be involved in that Deal or has there interest in him died?
pbchillin
12-07-2006, 11:54
Would be a great deal if they could get him for that price.
As Sweey said not as good as he was but still better than most of what is out there.
Would Gallas be involved in that Deal or has there interest in him died?
Gallas has reportedly signed a new contract extention with us at Chelsea
Milan's last comment on Gallas was that they'd wait for his contract to expire and sign him on a free transfer next season but I never expected to see him at Milan after that and if what pbchillin is saying is correct, I definitely won't.
Billy Minof
12-07-2006, 13:28
Ya he is back in talks with Chelsea about extending his Contract.
What is the deal with the decision regarding the Italian teams, what is holding up the outcome, are the jury still in deliberation or is it the Judge that is holding it up or Wha??? I am sitting next to my PC or Tv every day just waiting for the decision, its getting ridiculous at this stage.
News coverage of the trial is almost non-existant at present. Not sure if that's because the decision is made and waiting to be announced or something else. Bishop619 mentioned in the Calciopoli thread that they might be waiting until the stock exchange closes on Friday night as that was done for the announcement of which clubs and individuals would go on trial but there's no guarantee of anything at the moment.
Keyser Soze
12-07-2006, 15:38
Gallas has reportedly signed a new contract extention with us at Chelsea
That alone has made me as happy as when we signed Ballack. Gallas really is the unsung hero at Chelsea and I'd be over the moon if he has extended his contract.
KainLegacy
14-07-2006, 01:49
Hi there you Milan fans.I dont like what I read though...Nesta to Chelsea?!Buffon to Milan?!That are not good news(nevermind they are rumours...),I hope it wont happen.I hope Milan are innocent,otherwise they should be unchallenged in Serie B,leading with 30 points from the second :PPP.
Kaka signed to 2011.
Gourcuff signed for Milan.
The brasilian Amoroso signed for Milan also.
Favalli transfered from Inter.
Rui Costa to Benfica.
Stam to Ajax.
Fiori retired.
Probably you all know this,but I felt I must show it.Thats for now,Forza Milan.
Hi there you Milan fans.I dont like what I read though...Nesta to Chelsea?!Buffon to Milan?!That are not good news(nevermind they are rumours...),I hope it wont happen.I hope Milan are innocent,otherwise they should be unchallenged in Serie B,leading with 30 points from the second :PPP.
Kaka signed to 2011.
Gourcuff signed for Milan.
The brasilian Amoroso signed for Milan also.
Favalli transfered from Inter.
Rui Costa to Benfica.
Stam to Ajax.
Fiori retired.
Probably you all know this,but I felt I must show it.Thats for now,Forza Milan.
Don't forget we signed Ferdinando Coppola ;)
Presently, as a result of yesterday's preliminary verdict, we are facing a 15-point penalty for next season which we will rightly appeal. We also have a slim chance of playing in the UEFA Cup as Empoli were not granted a licence for continental participation by UEFA. Whether the authorities will intervene and ask that Ascoli be entered into the UEFA Cup in our place is up in the air.
This was said before the outcome:
Gattuso makes Milan pledge
World Cup winner Gennaro Gattuso has vowed to remain with Milan, even if the club are relegated following the match-fixing trial in Italy.
Milan, Juventus, Lazio and Fiorentina are expected to learn their fate on Friday, with the European vultures circling in order to pick up the pieces if the quartet are relegated.
The majority of the big-name stars have opted to keep their own counsel prior to the outcome of the trial, but midfield warhorse Gattuso has vowed to stay loyal to the Rossoneri even if they are banished from Serie A.
"I spoke to our vice-president Adriano Galliani and told him again that I'm not going anywhere," Gattuso is quoted as saying in The Sun.
"I'm proud to wear the Milan shirt.
"There's been so much talk about Milan in the last few months but I still think this is a unique club.
"I have a really long contract with Milan. I won't quit. Should Milan be relegated to Serie B, I'll go there too."
http://msnsport.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=402991&CPID=21&clid=120&lid=8&title=Gattuso+makes+Milan+pled ge
I don't think Milan will have to worry much about players leaving, 15 point penalty, even if it doesn't get reduced, they'll still have a chance of the title next season.
Kaka is probably the most likely to leave, some players may not want a year without European football. But the majority of the squad will stick together.
I think Milan still can win the title. It will definately be hard, but they don't have any European football, (unless they get UEFA Cup football) so they really just have Serie A to think about. Inter and Roma will definately drop points, so all is not lost for Milan.
Can't make fifteen points up on the leaders though. Over the last two seasons we've finished 7 and then 8 points clear of Inter. It is essentially between them and Roma. We could play for second if it isn't a close title-fight, or certainly for third as we'd be up against the likes of Palermo and Chievo Verona.
That's assuming we don't lose many players - Dida, Jankulovski, Gattuso, Pirlo and Kaka could all be off. We also lost Shevchenko for £30m - the same amount of money we stand to lose out on by not competing in the Champions League. We won't be able to attract a player who wants CL football.
KainLegacy
16-07-2006, 14:56
Didnt you read?Kaka already signed to 2011.
Heh,if Milan play in the UEFA Cup I will be worried...you know,there are 3 bulgarians team in it right now and I dont know who to support then,but we have one in the CL so it will be quite the same...
I will always remain AC fan,but we bulgarians have difficulties with the referees,they dont let us play our game(#@^$#^%$&@!).Just see semi final WC 94 Bulgaria-Italy...that was the biggest dissappointment from a referee.I am saying all this because even if you HATE a BG team,but he wins pride for the nation all people support him,its uniqe you know.
He signed to 2011 and then said "I'm not playing in Serie B". He's now whinging about us not being in the Champions League.
Now is not the time to be making certain comments about others when you should be looking to your own problems. Take the case of Marco Tardelli, who has just become a Juventus official, and has not lost time to attack Silvio Berlusconi and Adriano Galliani. It is nothing but a mistimed tackled from Tardelli who demonstrated what a great player he was in his career, but with this attitude less so as a man. Perhaps he’s still hurting from a certain 6-0 derby defeat. It was the May 11th 2001 and it was probably the day that ended Tardelli’s coaching career. The former midfielder should know from the world of football that comments should remain inside the dressing room when it comes to colleagues, but in an evident reference to Adriano Galliani, he stated: ’There is a name guilty more than others but has not been really found guilty.’ He was comparing the verdict of ’others’ who received a year ban to that of Moggi and Giraudo. Then turning to attack president Berlusconi: ’How does it seem right that Milan could be in the UEFA Cup?’ For Milan fans, Tardelli’s opinions are of no interest, what counts is justice and it must emerge with objectivity and fairness.
Damn right.
“My family and I are happy in Milan and that is why I renewed my contract until 2011,” he told the Spanish AS newspaper.
“The fact that Real are interested in me and want me is very pleasing. Real are as great a club as Milan, or possibly even greater.”
Fuck off then.
Just read on Sky Sports that Pirlo wants a new challenge in Spain.
Is this true Sweey do you know?
Just read on Sky Sports that Pirlo wants a new challenge in Spain.
Is this true Sweey do you know?
His actual words were more to the effect that he'd consider playing in Spain as opposed to playing in England but not necessarily that he actually wanted to leave. I don't believe he'll do well at a club who aren't coached by Ancelotti.
His actual words were more to the effect that he'd consider playing in Spain as opposed to playing in England but not necessarily that he actually wanted to leave. I don't believe he'll do well at a club who aren't coached by Ancelotti.
I agree. I think he'd be better off staying with Milan, especially considering they avoided relegation to Serie B. Good news about Rino staying though.
I agree. I think he'd be better off staying with Milan, especially considering they avoided relegation to Serie B. Good news about Rino staying though.
Gattuso? You might need to read this ;)
Azzurri star Gennaro Gattuso’s future is in doubt again, after his agent admitted that the Rossoneri midfielder had not yet committed to Milan.
Gattuso had declared last week that he would stay at the San Siro regardless of the Calciopoli verdict stating: “I am certain that I will be at Milan next season and play for them in Serie A.”
However, after Friday’s sentence denied the Diavoli a place in next season’s Champions League, Ringhio appears to be having second thoughts.
“I’m going to sit down with Gennaro now in order to discuss the implications of what has happened,” Gattuso’s agent Andrea D’Amico stated. “Only after an in-depth chat can we decide what will be best for the future.”
There is some good news for the Milan faithful as ex-Parma hit man Alberto Gilardino and Brazilian prodigy Kaka’ have confirmed that they will stay with the club.
Kaka? Since when?
Gattuso? You might need to read this ;)
Ah.
Milan are in pole position to sign Gianluca Zambrotta, the Juventus player’s agent has revealed on Tuesday.
Although the English media have speculated that Chelsea are lining up a bid for the versatile full-back, the Italian won’t ponder a move abroad unless his desire of joining the Rossoneri fails to materialise.
"Zambrotta's wish is to stay in Italy, but not at Juventus and the only club that can afford the transfer and that have shown a keen interest is Milan," Giuseppe Bonetto told PA Sport.
"Should Juve fail to reach an agreement with Milan then Zambrotta will consider the other alternatives.”
The former Bari player is expected to leave the Italian giants after their relegation to Serie B and Juventus have been bombarded with requests.
Although Bonetto conceded that Chelsea will make a formal approach, the Premiership champions will have to join a long queue.
“An agent representing Chelsea will meet Juventus in the next few days, but they are not the only ones interested in Zambrotta,” he added.
“Real Madrid and Barcelona are also keen to sign the player.
"It will be down to Juventus to make the decisions and let us know what the options are once there is something concrete.”
Juventus value the newly crowned World Cup winner, recognised as one of the game’s best full-backs, at around £14m.
The former Under-21 international joined the Stadio Delle Alpi outfit in 1999 for £7m from southern minnows Bari.
He’s been a massive success in Turin, even more so after former boss Marcello Lippi transformed him from a right-winger into a marauding full-back.
If true then :happy:
Well as long as he doesn't go to Madrid, or Chelsea for that matter, I'll be happy. Love to see him come to us though. :(
Official announcement:
The idea, Carlo Ancelotti and the champions remain with Milan. Neither the coach nor our great champions hopped on a plane, actually Rino Gattuso even went so far as to state officially that he is ‘proud to be at Milan and is not leaving’. There is no need to worry. Niether Spain's La Liga nor England's Premier League will be able to boast the likes of Nesta, Gattuso, Kakà or Pirlo. They are our champions and they are here to stay. In fact, Ricky once again politely but firmly declined the interest of another club and he just renewed his contract with Milan until the end of 2011 in the midst of the World Cup. Our champions stay because playing for a Milan is a matter of the heart, playing here is like being with family.
Franco Baresi, one-time Milan legend and now coach of our Primavera team and former player Angelo Colombo, who recently quit his position as coach of the under-11s are set to be named as the new coaching team of the Cameroon national side.
KainLegacy
19-07-2006, 20:18
We should stop buying crap old hags(I mean players :P...).Really a refreshment is needed so why not promote some youngsters?Instead of buying Gallas for example...
Kaka said Real Madrid is better team?????????????????????????? ????????
Pwaahhahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahaha....ooops,sorry,but it sounds ridiculous,thats the next to the last crap team in the world(Inter).Kaka really lost his mind aint he?
Kaka has claimed that he has not spoken to the media about Real Madrid so we'll have to trust him.
Lino Marzoratti, our young right-back, has gone on loan to Empoli for the season while Massimo Donati has moved to Atalanta. I am yet to understand why we have bothered to sign Giuseppe Favalli. He's 33 and pretty much useless.
Giuseppe Favalli
Sorry, but :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Crespo's angling for a move to Milan!!!!! :crymore: I knew this was going to happen :crymore:
Crespo's angling for a move to Milan!!!!! :crymore: I knew this was going to happen :crymore:
What was his strike rate when he was on loan at Milan? He does seem to do well in Italy.
11 goals in 29 matches, supposedly. He didn't do too badly but didn't offer anything new (he, like RVN, is too similar to Inzaghi and Gilardino) waiting around for service all the time. He's also only taking a pay-cut if he joins us to help himself, not to help us. He doesn't give a toss about the club, he's just a mercenary whom people aren't willing to pay high wages for.
Crespo's angling for a move to Milan!!!!! :crymore: I knew this was going to happen :crymore:
This should help, Sweey:
http://www.samaritans.org.uk/
Wasn't Crespo good during his loan spell with Milan 2 years ago?
This should help, Sweey:
http://www.samaritans.org.uk/
I'm on the phone now, cheers :crymore:
I know you...your hugs have strings attached, sometimes a penis too.
You know me to well Sweey :ninja:
Milan are back for the first day of pre-season training ahead of the 2006-07 campaign. Of course, the start has been coloured by what is surrounding football in Italy during this period but the spirit and desire to do well are as great as ever. Ariedo Braida had the honour of opening the first press conference and he said: 'We have to wait for the appeal outcome next week so I don't think we can speak about it. We will talk about football, the new season, the new players. I would like to thank the players who have left, first of all, Shevchenko who left an important sign after seven years at the club. Good luck to him. I would like to thank Rui Costa for his exemplary behaviour and also to Stam who left for family reasons. We also have new players. Yoann Gourcuff, a 20-year-old guy rich in talent, everyone talks well about him and he represents Milan's future. We have Pasquale Foggia, he has his chance, he has shown what a good talent he has been at Under-21 level. Ferdinando Coppola, I think will go on loan while Giuseppe Favalli needs no introduction, he has been marvellous. These are the new arrivals but we also have players who have made history with Milan, like Maldini and Costacurta. Their presence is important for the dressing room, they have come up against every situation. Milan is a great family and have always shown that.'
Now that's all good and well but where is our replacement for Shevchenko and where are the young defensive reinforcements? Is Favalli going to play alongside Gilardino in attack? I can see it now....and it isn't pretty.
Just be patient Sweey, Super Hernan is on his way!!!!!
Just be patient Sweey, Super Hernan is on his way!!!!!
It gets worse. According to reports we will sign either Crespo or Drogba - we've asked Chelsea about a price for Drogba. I would rather get Crespo - I hate Drogba's attitude, he's so up himself it is unbelievable and I'd like to smash his face in.
I'm yet to be completely convinced by our new shirt for the 06/07 season - and it would help a lot if Giuseppe Fucking Favalli wasn't on the front page of our official website!
:laugh:
Favalli looks very happy ;)
The new shirt gives out a very dark feeling to me. Did the shoulders of the last kit used to be black? It doesn't look bad though.
Think the red and black were inverted previously on the shoulders so that would be why. I'm liking the black shirt (again) and will probably buy that one though I want to see the white one. What with neither having stripes, I tend to prefer them.
Joel Rojo
21-07-2006, 09:00
It gets worse. According to reports we will sign either Crespo or Drogba - we've asked Chelsea about a price for Drogba. I would rather get Crespo - I hate Drogba's attitude, he's so up himself it is unbelievable and I'd like to smash his face in.
So it's a choice between a lazy, sub-par, overated, has-been poacher, and a full of shit diva who trips over blades of grass. In agony too, apparently.
I haven't seen Favalli, but I guess I'd rather have him than any of the aforementioned overpayed sacks of ego.
2006/07 Shirts:
Home:
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1103/milan0607homefp9.jpg
Away:
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/3023/milan0607awayyu1.jpg
Third:
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3853/milan0607thirdgt7.jpg
Goalkeeping:
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9105/milan0607gkmr4.jpg
Have to say, I think all four look great but the home one is probably the weakest - don't like that white lining on the side and sleeve.
Rangers_Fureva
21-07-2006, 12:12
To be honest, i really like that home top. The black on the shoulder and sleeves look alot better in my opinion, and just gives it that 'look' which i can't quite describe. All the Adidas strips are really impressing me this season.:happy:
According to reports we will sign either Crespo or Drogba
:no: Thats like a choice between genital warts and herpes.
By the way, i'm liking all of the Meelan kits. The black shoulders look better in my opinion. Its great how they always have a plain white away shirt, whereas other teams change their away colours every year.
Lorenzinho
22-07-2006, 01:46
Liking the away and third ones the most.
Crespo is a fantastic player.
Anyway guys. Won't speak to yous all for a couple of weeks, off to Italy! Take it easy.
Liking the away and third ones the most.
Crespo is a fantastic player.
Anyway guys. Won't speak to yous all for a couple of weeks, off to Italy! Take it easy.
Have a great time mate ;)
SO, WHAT HAVE WE DOne WITH THE 50mil we got from shev? other than paying for scandal damage.
I thought it was £30 million, not £50 million?
Pretty sure it is 50mil. however, it is actually 30 mil (sorry)
anyways, both Crespo and Drogba aren't good choices in my opinion (sorry). Crespo was a great pair with Shevchenko, he is a ace-finisher and gets rebounds (like inzaghi), but since both him and Gilardino are this type, they won't have that much chemistry (imo, i cud be wrong). Where as Drogba is more of a support striker for Gilardino, I don't like his attitude either, I don't think he is almost as skilled as Shev. As far as Im concerned, I'd rather have Kaka fill some of Shevchenko's role, than having drogba.
I thought it was £30 million, not £50 million?
It was £30m. I think Yaohan has read the fee in Euros...
I don't think it was £50 million because that would have broken the transfer record and it definetly didn't do that.
yeah...I read 50 mil euro. Which really blows how MILAN got kicked out of champions league, with SUCH LITTLE EVIDENCE. I hate juventus, not only they get themselves into shit, they drag down 3 other teams with them, one of them being pretty much innocent.
yeah...I read 50 mil euro. Which really blows how MILAN got kicked out of champions league, with SUCH LITTLE EVIDENCE. I hate juventus, not only they get themselves into shit, they drag down 3 other teams with them, one of them being pretty much innocent.
It isn't Juventus, it is Moggi. There is a difference though I understand what you mean. Still, I'm sure we're guilty of something somewhere.
mufcsean
23-07-2006, 11:56
Sweey when will we know the verdict for the appeal that the clubs have launched
I don't know. The only present deadline is that the list of teams for both the Champions League and UEFA Cup have to be submitted by Tuesday. It is believed the appeals will go beyond that date and will only affect the domestic penalties.
EDIT: Some Italian newspapers claim we'll hear results on Monday. Also hearing we'll probably go through most of this again with the new clubs who are involved once they've finished with the big four.
2006/07 Shirts:
Home:
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1103/milan0607homefp9.jpg
Away:
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/3023/milan0607awayyu1.jpg
Third:
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3853/milan0607thirdgt7.jpg
Goalkeeping:
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9105/milan0607gkmr4.jpg
Have to say, I think all four look great but the home one is probably the weakest - don't like that white lining on the side and sleeve.
I think they look good. But what happened to the classic Opel.
Doesn't look quite right without it. :no:
They didn't want to renew the contract I believe - or we didn't want them. Either way, Bet and Win picked up both ourselves and Barcelona. I wish they'd just put Bet and Win on it instead of bwin...looks like someone hit the wrong key and tons of them got printed.
nickpring
23-07-2006, 12:41
bit of a coincidence, bet and win :) haha
mufcsean
23-07-2006, 12:55
bit of a coincidence, bet and win :) haha
hahaha classic, and thankyou sweey for clearing that up mate
Bwin better give us A LOT OF MONEY, because we need A LOT OF MONEY right now.
also, they better not try to influence us to fix matches so they make profit.
LOL...it's a terrible logo isnt' it? A shame to ruin the classic shirt...
KainLegacy
24-07-2006, 12:20
Well,I personally like the shirts,I will probably get home one...
On the other shocking news...OH MY GOD!!!Drogba,hell no,Crespo,another old hag -_-"...in my ML I bought Tevez for ST(because Messi and Beasley where not for sale...),sadly there is no way to tell the coach how much Tev improved the team(he is the savior of mostly all matches)...its just a game,but still...
Crespo or Drogba is a horrible, horrible decision. I too want Tevez but it seems there is no chance. Berlusconi, Galliani and Ancelotti may be put off by his suspect attitude. Suazo is a good option and a fair deal more likely.
Meelan desperately need some pace up front to replace Sheva, so Tevez would be an ideal signing. How much would he cost, Sweey?
Meelan desperately need some pace up front to replace Sheva, so Tevez would be an ideal signing. How much would he cost, Sweey?
I'm guessing in the region of £15-20m. Might be closer to £10m but I think Corinthians would hold out for more and his importance to the team has been highlighted in his lengthy absence when they've set a new club record (a bad one too).
KainLegacy
25-07-2006, 01:58
Well another choise is,if Juve start to collapse,Del Piero or Ibrahimovic...but picking a young star seems the best choise...Podolski?FC Koln are crap team anyway...
again, podolski is too similar to inzaghi, ball-poacher in my opinion, we need a forward that can dribble. Tevez would be a good choice, drogba too if he isn't such an ass. Too bad ibrahimovic used to be on juve, i'd think he hate milan. conclusion, we need a forward that can dribble and shoot, and pass to some extend.
Well another choise is,if Juve start to collapse,Del Piero or Ibrahimovic...but picking a young star seems the best choise...Podolski?FC Koln are crap team anyway...
Podolski signed for Bayern a long time ago.
yaohan, Ibrahimovic has shown how inconsistent and arrogant he is - we don't need a player with his attitude or poor form at the club. The form issue also goes for Adriano. Why sign someone who can go for months on end without scoring? It isn't worth it for the two months of amazing form we'll get treated to.
EDIT: Clarence Seedorf will be wearing the number 10 shirt this season :erm:
Podolski signed for Bayern a long time ago.
EDIT: Clarence Seedorf will be wearing the number 10 shirt this season :erm:
LOL! How wierd!
RE: Podolski...I think he may turn out to be ok and it's probably an astute commercial signing as well, given his WC showing.
They should try and lure back John-Dahl Tomasson from Stuttgart. What a talent!
They should try and lure back John-Dahl Tomasson from Stuttgart. What a talent!
:no:
LOL! How wierd!
RE: Podolski...I think he may turn out to be ok and it's probably an astute commercial signing as well, given his WC showing.
I think Bayern signed Podolski before the World Cup.
PS Im registered to Insight a year today :w00t
Right, now we have an eight-point penalty, re-entry into the Champions League albeit at the preliminary round and therefore the chance once again to secure a world class striker instead of the worrying quality of Crespo and Drogba - hopefully we won't do something stupid like signing one of them.
It may also help to secure a right-back and a central defender both of which are required along with a striker and it potentially frees up the £30m we received from the sale of Shevchenko which is good news. Would like a six-point penalty instead but we're not really in a position to complain. We need to get our heads down, get the right players in and work fucking hard to get back to the top.
I can see Tevez on the horizon now.
I can see Tevez on the horizon now.
Is he on a white horse? :w00t
Billy Minof
25-07-2006, 23:59
Congrates on the decision AC, great news especially the CL news.
KainLegacy
26-07-2006, 00:12
HAhahahahahaHHHaa...well on the topic...
Well refreshment is the right word,I want Pirlo(after all my favourite player),Kaka,Gattuso and Gilardino to stay in the club,but everything else to be reconsidered.I mean too many retiring players and if buying another ones which will soon retire seems good to the manager-get out of there.Maybe I am a little harsh,but I hate THESE people to command my team,so after all we need coach refreshment?
Although very late, Ancelotti has recognised the weakness in our midfield - Pirlo being bullied off the ball with ease. I'll commend him for his plans in the upcomig season - Gattuso playing closer to Pirlo or even behind him - but at the same time, I knew Milan's failings in certain games before they even began as was proven on this very forum. Ancelotti is also too scared to give new players a chance, something which saw a gifted midfielder in Vikash Dhorasoo leave the club when he deserved to stay and be in the team.
true, zlatan does lack consistency...I kind of look at his impressive video clips too much.
ANYWAYS, now we do have 50 mil euro surplus (thank you champions league), we REALLY need to find a replacement for Shevchenko. Umm just a question, wouldn't we be worried about getting BOTH FULL BACKS instead of just right back?
Dr. Bob Kelso
26-07-2006, 04:23
I see your cheque cleared eh Silvio.
http://www.il-processo-a-internet.com/Silvio_Berlusconi.jpg
LOL Rafalutionary!
Tevez to AC? Yeah...but will he be a White Knight...or a Black Knight?!?! Or will he be on a Zebra instead?
true, zlatan does lack consistency...I kind of look at his impressive video clips too much.
ANYWAYS, now we do have 50 mil euro surplus (thank you champions league), we REALLY need to find a replacement for Shevchenko. Umm just a question, wouldn't we be worried about getting BOTH FULL BACKS instead of just right back?
Jankulovski, Serginho, Kaladze, Maldini and Favalli (:no:) can all play at left-back even though Kaladze is crap there. On the right we only have Cafu so a move for someone like Oddo would fill that for now. We do need a new left-back but probably won't sign one until next summer. I hope Ancelotti isn't thinking of using Favalli as Cafu's understudy at right-back.
I think Milan a well covered for left-backs. Jankulovski being the pick of the bunch for me, unless Maldini can continue to hold down his place.
Also i think Milan need some genuine width in midfield, with too many central players at present, namely Pirlo, Kaka, Gatusso and Seedorf. And the problem with Pirlo is that he wouldn't be the player he is without Gatusso doing all of his dirty work for him. He's a sublime player on the ball, but get dispossesed easily and can't win it back. Pirlo is a luxury that many teams can't afford (what they call an abatino in Italy).
I forgot Simic on the right too :huh:
Jamez, you're right but it won't happen as our midfield looks finalised - Pirlo, Vogel, Gattuso, Ambrosini, Brocchi, Seedorf, Jankulovski, Kaka and Gourcuff. Interesting to note this though:
Milan have reacted to last night’s Calciopoli appeal verdicts with partial satisfaction. The Rossoneri saw their points penalty for next season’s Serie A reduced from 15 to eight and were also only relegated to third in last term’s table which will allow them to compete in the Champions League preliminaries.
Vice-President Adriano Galliani, who was handed a nine-month ban, waited for the verdict in the club’s headquarters in Via Turati.
Immediately after the sentence was read, Galliani did not speak directly to the Press, but invited the fans who had been waiting in the street to come inside.
“This is still an injustice, as during the only incriminating phone call regarding us, I never spoke a word, but only listened, out of politeness,” he stated.
“Anyhow, as we now have the Champions League, my next step will be to go to Milanello and speak to the players,” added the former League President.
“We only want those who are sincerely motivated to stay.”
Many Milan players were still on holiday, but have immediately been called back to Milanello to train for the Champions League preliminary ties, which will take place on August 8 and 23.
Galliani is also convinced that his team will bridge the eight-point deficit in the League before Christmas.
The Rossoneri club’s lawyer, Leandro Cantamessa, stated that he was partially satisfied by the verdict.
“It cannot be considered a victory, but after the July 14 decisions, it is a definite improvement,” he stated.
“The CAF verdict was a true blow for us, but this last verdict at least allows us to compete in next term’s Champions League.”
Galliani will appeal against his nine-month ban, but nothing has yet been decided about Milan.
“I don’t know if the club will decide to pursue the case in other forums, including civil courts,” concluded Cantamessa.
Bold bit = goodbye Kaka
Billy Minof
26-07-2006, 11:36
Bold bit = goodbye Kaka
Ya, I reckon he is gone aswell....
MILAN - Ricky Kakà commented on the appeal sentence of the Federal Court: ’I am pleased to play in the Champions League, I have not had a problem staying at Milan even if destiny had been different. I am honoured and proud to have signed a contract with Milan. I repeat: the fans can stay relaxed: I will remain at Milan. I can’t wait to get back to Milanello and start the season.’
:huh:
Well...your president also launched a "war" against REal MAdrid, especially over Kaka as well...no doubt he'll stay..
Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani has declared war on Real Madrid over the tactics used to try to lure Kaka to Spain.
The young Brazilian playmaker has been the subject of much speculation this summer with the Liga giants at the centre of the storm.
Ramon Calderon claimed to have agreed a personal deal with the World Cup ace in the run up to his election as club president on July 3.
Galliani has now come out to slam Calderon and director of sports Predrag Mijatovic and has stepped up the rivalry between the footballing giants to epic proportions.
"For 50 years Real has been the greatest club in the world but now they have thrown all that out of the window," Galliani told Marca.
"This Real does nothing to honour its history or its name."
Kaka extended his contract at the Stadio Giuseppe Meazza in June until 2011, and the Serie A side are raging against Real's new management.
"Milan declares war on Real - you can write it like that - and it will do everything it can to make their life impossible," Galliani added.
"Kaka is not going to leave here, but if he did it would not be to Real. No one from this club will sit down and negotiate with them because what they are doing is not how great clubs work together.
"I want to clarify that these remarks are against the current Real and not the club that we all know and love."
The Italians have meanwhile, been boosted by the reduction in their sentence from the country's match-fixing scandal.
They will now be allowed to take part in next season's UEFA Champions League third qualifying round and start the coming campaign with only an eight point deficit in the league.
Well said...REal need to get back and be respected for their ON-FIELD play...not boardroom plays...
Billy Minof
26-07-2006, 11:53
lol, was just about to post up the same thing NTurtle.
Kaka seems to have an air of self-importance about him, doesn't he? Saying that the Milan faithful can 'relax' now that he's staying. What a twat! I'm sure most of them weren't that bothered - he would be just one in a whole line of mercenary South Americans to pass through the club.
Nturtle you meant vice-president :tongue: Galliani will never be as good as Berlusconi ;)
Worth remembering that whilst Milan are now seemingly against Real, they have close links to Chelsea as Abramovich and Berlusconi/Galliani have an excellent relationship.
Billy Minof
26-07-2006, 15:30
Just what Chelsea need....another Midfielder that will demand to be in the starting 11.
UEFA may axe us from the Champions League despite the appeal verdict from last night which would put us in the third preliminary round. They will have an emergency meeting tomorrow to discuss the matter.
Nturtle you meant vice-president :tongue: Galliani will never be as good as Berlusconi ;)
Worth remembering that whilst Milan are now seemingly against Real, they have close links to Chelsea as Abramovich and Berlusconi/Galliani have an excellent relationship.
Yeah, Chelsea's relationship with Milan is great. Since we are also suppose to have links to Corinthians, we will bring Tevez to Milan!!!!
You'll have to give him to us when we are ready though :ninja:
Kaka seems to have an air of self-importance about him, doesn't he? Saying that the Milan faithful can 'relax' now that he's staying. What a twat! I'm sure most of them weren't that bothered - he would be just one in a whole line of mercenary South Americans to pass through the club.
I feel relaxed when kaka said he is staying, you don't find football genius like Kaka very easily, trust me. Sure there will be a lot of south american talents, but losing one that you currently own does NOT HELP.
Nice... :huh:
Milan will have to wait until August 2 to find out whether they will be eligible for next season’s Champions League, UEFA have confirmed.
European football’s governing body held an emergency meeting on Thursday to discuss the Rossoneri’s proposed entry after the Calciopoli verdicts.
Although the Italian Football Federation have informed UEFA that Milan should be admitted, UEFA are considering their options on ethical grounds.
As a result, Milan will be included in Friday’s preliminary round draw but only on a provisional basis until the panel meet again next week.
"As far as the position of Milan is concerned, the Panel took note of a report submitted by the UEFA Chief Disciplinary Inspector on the question whether it would be appropriate, due to the particular circumstances, to admit Milan to the 2006-07 UEFA club competitions," a UEFA statement read.
"Following this report, the Emergency Panel has decided to further examine whether to admit Milan to the 2006-07 UEFA club competitions.
“Milan and the FIGC will have the possibility to submit their observations in this respect to UEFA.
"No decision has been made with regards to hypothetical replacement should Milan be excluded. Such a decision would be made by the Emergency Panel on August 2 as well."
So let us take stock - because of a conversation in which Galliani barely said a word as he was "listening politely" and an off-hand, unspecific conversation by a non-executive ex-director we:
a) got a 30-point penalty last season
b) got an 8-point penalty for next season
c) have been demoted to the preliminary round of the CL
d) may be kicked out of Europe losing us £30m
Either we're guilty - and lets see the evidence because if we are then we deserve to pay the price - or we're not.
Billy Minof
27-07-2006, 15:08
Ye will get off dude 100%. ;)
Joel Rojo
28-07-2006, 02:16
The appeals are resolved already though, so the point penalty remains for both seasons, and now all Milan can do is wait to see if they can get to Europe.
Because of pretty much nothing.
So if we're allowed into Europe our qualifying tie will be against either Cork City or the team I love second only to Milan - Red Star Belgrade. Thanks a lot UEFA :tongue:. Still, if we are denied our place and it is given to Lens then from my point of view there is no more satisfying team to beat them than Red Star.
So if we're allowed into Europe our qualifying tie will be against either Cork City or the team I love second only to Milan - Red Star Belgrade. Thanks a lot UEFA :tongue:. Still, if we are denied our place and it is given to Lens then from my point of view there is no more satisfying team to beat them than Red Star.
Looks like it'll be Cork...heh heh...a soft draw...or a tough draw?!! Crvena Zvezda = Red Star Belgrade?
Looks like it'll be Cork...heh heh...a soft draw...or a tough draw?!! Crvena Zvezda = Red Star Belgrade?
Yes, Crvena Zvezda are Red Star Belgrade. If Cork manage to earn the required victory away from home then they'll show a lot more strength than most people would generally expect. I'd be shocked if Red Star didn't qualify from the position they're in.
We've officially signed Daniele Bonera from Parma and he will be presented at Milanello tomorrow. Now I mnust be honest, someone asked me about Bonera recently and I said he loses his concentration and composure sometimes and I would prefer Barzagli. That being said, I'm still happy with the purchase as it was definitely needed and he is both young and talented. Nicely done - with no media coverage. Plays anywhere in the defence, but is probably weakest at left-back.
A good signing. Playing alongside the likes of Nesta, Cafu and Maldini might help him blossom into a top class player, after all, theres few better to learn from.
KainLegacy
30-07-2006, 16:03
Milan at war with Real?YES,I HATE REAL TOO :P:P:P !Well thats an offtopic,but my favorite team to wage war with the second most hatred of mine(And the winner is - Inter ...grrrrrrr) is probably a good thing.
I didnt know Milan are friends with Corinthians,Sweey is that true?If it is go Tevez,go!
Bonera was a legend for me on FM05
Milan at war with Real?YES,I HATE REAL TOO :P:P:P !Well thats an offtopic,but my favorite team to wage war with the second most hatred of mine(And the winner is - Inter ...grrrrrrr) is probably a good thing.
I didnt know Milan are friends with Corinthians,Sweey is that true?If it is go Tevez,go!
Milan have good relations with Abramovich and Cheslea...and Abramovich has influence at Corinthians so that's the only way we'll get Tevez who is unhappy.
Latest reports today are that we will make a surprise signing - and it will be either Fernando Torres (:no:), Zlatan Ibrahimovic (WE DO NOT WANT HIM! :realmad:) or Ronaldo (:angry:)
Fernando Torres (:no:)
Huh?
Most most coaches would sell their own mother to get their hands on 'el nino'. He's a class act, but i'd heard he was staying at Atleti anyway.
KainLegacy
31-07-2006, 00:49
Torres is good,Zlatan I like(some of his games,not to maention he was the weakest player on WC06,but so was Sheva...) and Ronaldo ?!?!?! Hell no,get him of this porky pig.I dont think Ronaldo will ever play in Milan he is no good anymore and played for Inter so...you get the point.If Berbatov was signed by Milan(there were interest in him and he is my favourite player from my country)it was going to be perfect,but I hope he do well in Tottenham.Tevez,Torres or...why not Ryan Babel(good relations with Ajax I think-Stam...)?That will do.
Torres is good,Zlatan I like(some of his games,not to maention he was the weakest player on WC06,but so was Sheva...) and Ronaldo ?!?!?! Hell no,get him of this porky pig.I dont think Ronaldo will ever play in Milan he is no good anymore and played for Inter so...you get the point.If Berbatov was signed by Milan(there were interest in him and he is my favourite player from my country)it was going to be perfect,but I hope he do well in Tottenham.Tevez,Torres or...why not Ryan Babel(good relations with Ajax I think-Stam...)?That will do.
That doesn't stop Milan. Most of the time they take the Inter rejects and turn them into stars.
I admire Milan a lot. If there is one club that you could join that would make you feel welcomed and at home, it has to be Milan.
Our Champions League participation has been confirmed by UEFA. Now to get knocked out by Cork City or Red Star Belgrade....
The statement:
“Having examined the request of the Italian Football Association (FIGC) to register AC Milan for the UEFA Champions League 2006/07, the submissions of the Chief Disciplinary Inspector of UEFA, and the statements of AC Milan and the FIGC, the UEFA Emergency Panel has today admitted AC Milan to participate in the third qualifying round of the 2006/07 UEFA Champions League. As a result, the Italian club plays the two legs of the competition's third qualifying round as drawn on 28 July 2006 in Nyon.
"The UEFA Emergency Panel, being competent to decide on this matter, came to the conclusion that it had no choice but to admit AC Milan for the UEFA club competitions 2006/07 for formal reasons because of an insufficient legal basis in the regulations which would allow not admitting AC Milan under the specific circumstances.
"The UEFA Emergency Panel made a clear statement to the club that 'this admission is far from being given with the utmost conviction. AC Milan takes the advantage of the fact that UEFA lacks of legal grounds to refuse the club’s admission. In this respect, AC Milan is herewith informed that the necessary adaptations will be made to the Regulations concerned. The UEFA Emergency Panel is deeply concerned that AC Milan has created the impression of being involved in the improper influencing of the regular course of matches in the Italian football championship'.
"From the statement of AC Milan, the Panel concluded that 'the club has obviously not yet properly perceived the troubles it is in and the damage it already caused to European football. UEFA and the club's opponents will observe with the utmost attention the future attitude of AC Milan around UEFA club competition fixtures. UEFA will not hesitate to intervene severely, should AC Milan be involved in any activities aiming to arrange improperly the outcome of a match.'
Our Champions League participation has been confirmed by UEFA. Now to get knocked out by Cork City or Red Star Belgrade....
The statement:
You playing a shit 1st team
wolfgang64
02-08-2006, 13:47
Good news! Grazie Sweey!
KainLegacy
03-08-2006, 00:55
"To get knocked out" ?!?! Well we play Red Star.Sweey can I ask you a question?You support Inter and Milan at the same time?I wont argue with you about that,but it doesnt feel right,well its your choice.
Who said I support Inter? They're dirty scum. Are you basing this on the fact I've posted in their thread? If so that's simply to have a discussion.
I'm also a VERY pessimistic Milan fan ;) - or as I prefer to call myself, realistic.
We're going to have to be very, very careful in the Belgrade leg of this tie as they'll try and pick us apart the way they swamp most other teams who go there. Nobody and I mean nobody will go to Red Star Belgrade and have an easy match. They're the sort of team you very rarely thrash and their decision to keep Nikola Zigic in order to help them qualify for the group stages went well last night considering he scored twice.
French club Lens have criticised UEFA’s decision to admit Milan to the Champions League, but will not appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport.
The French outfit, who finished fourth in Ligue 1 last term, had argued they should replace scandal-hit Milan after UEFA decided to further study the Rossoneri’s position on ethical grounds.
Director general Francis Collado was furious after Wednesday’s final verdict was confirmed, finding the reasons behind why UEFA failed to kick out the Italian outfit hard to digest.
“UEFA’s statement says that Milan were admitted only because of an insufficient legal basis in the regulations,” he said. “Where are the ethics?
“The Italian Football Federation organised a strange scheme to have Milan admitted in the Champions League, when it is clear they were responsible, as well as others, of in some way fixing the championship,” he added.
Lens President Gervais Martel was also very disappointed, as he argued that no Italian team should have been allowed to take part in the European competitions.
However, he has confirmed that his club would not appeal against the decision after previously hinting that would be an option they would consider.
:jack: Hope Lens get relegated this season after being so pathetic.
KainLegacy
04-08-2006, 17:36
Who said I support Inter? They're dirty scum. Are you basing this on the fact I've posted in their thread? If so that's simply to have a discussion.
I'm also a VERY pessimistic Milan fan ;) - or as I prefer to call myself, realistic.
Yeah,I said it because of that(I looked there to see what the opposition thinks...)
I am too "realistic" as you say,because I dont bet on desperate matches for Milan,I have a feeling about this things and now I feel we will win(2-1 the scoreline for Milan,mark my word :P)
I just get involved in all sorts of Serie A discussion. I'm the top poster in the Juventus thread :erm: but that's because I love Serie A and there was a time when there were only Juventus and Inter threads - no Milan or Serie A ones.
Bonera is suspended for the first leg of the Red Star tie, Maldini will miss both matches through injury and isn't in the list of 25 players submitted to UEFA and it appears Christian Brocchi may be used at right-back...:huh:
Joel Rojo
05-08-2006, 03:55
(...)there was a time when there were only Juventus and Inter threads - no Milan or Serie A ones.
Yet nowadays we have Jared Borgetti ruling the message board with an iron fist.
Yet nowadays we have Jared Borgetti ruling the message board with an iron fist.
:laugh:
pbchillin
05-08-2006, 14:35
Yet nowadays we have Jared Borgetti ruling the message board with an iron fist.
Is that Jared Francisco Borgetti Echeverría aka 'Desert Fox'/'El Zorro del Desierto' you speak of?
Dr. Bob Kelso
05-08-2006, 14:52
:jack: Hope Lens get relegated this season after being so pathetic.
Yeah I see your point, a decent club in Ligue 1 work their asses off without cheating and are given the possibility of playing with Europes elite and then a side that did cheat (even though they have enough money to make sodom and gomorrah blush) are given a place in the competition thus promoting the idea that cheating is fine by UEFA.
Why the natural reaction would be to want Lens to be relegated. They are asking for a fair playing field and we can't be having that now can we!
As I said to a friend of mine last week - we'll find out on Wednesday for definite whether Kaka is to stay or leave:
Spanish newspaper ‘As’ claims that transfer guru Predrag Mijatovic has been advising Kaka’s father, who also acts as his agent, on how to force Milan into a sale.
“On Wednesday Kaka will play for Milan in the Champions League and this story will be over,” said Rossoneri chief Galliani.
“It is not normal that Calderon, Mijatovic and Franco Baldini talk continually of Kaka, because he is staying at San Siro. I have great respect for the history of that club, but not for their directors in this administration. They really aren’t worthy of such a world class side.”
The 22 players called up for the first leg of the Red Star Belgrade tie. The numbers in brackets are the shirt numbers which are only valid for the home and away legs.
Goalkeepers Dida (1), Coppola (78), Kalac (16)
Defenders Cafu (2), Costacurta (5), Favalli (19), Jankulovski (18), Simic (17)
Midfielders Ambrosini (23), Brocchi (32), Foggia (83), Gattuso (8), Gourcuff (20), Kakà (22), Pirlo (21), Seedorf (10), Serginho (27), Vogel (14)
Forwards Amoroso (37), Borriello (12), Inzaghi (9), Gilardino (11)
Kakha Kaladze, Alessandro Nesta and Paolo Maldini are out with injury.
Daniele Bonera is unavailable through suspension.
Kaka will remain with Milan:
MILAN: Dida; Cafu, Simic, Costacurta, Serginho; Gattuso, Pirlo, Seedorf; Kakà; Inzaghi, Gilardino.
RED STAR: Randjelovic; Pantic, Bisevac, Perovic, Gueye; Kovacevic, Georgiev, Milovanovic, Basta; Zigic, Jankovic.
A strong Red Star outfit. Basevic is a solid central defender, Kovacevic a tough-tackling defensive midfielder, Georgiev a tricky winger who got an assist on his debut and that's before I even think about the likes of Milovanovic, Basta, Jankovic and the on-form giant Zigic.
No experiments from us - the "strongest side" we have available (in the eyes of Ancelotti) as we are without Nesta, Bonera and Maldini.
We've only played one pre-season friendly, a hard-fought 2-0 win over Lecco whilst Red Star Belgrade have played two European games, one league game and some friendlies. They've not conceded in any of their three competitive games so far, winning 1-0, 3-0 and 2-0.
A 1-0 victory over Red Star Belgrade who are going to try and maul us in Belgrade in a fortnight. They did well in this leg, losing out after Inzaghi scored from a slide-rule Kaka pass which split their defence open after 22 minutes. Red Star's Bulgarian winger Georgiev nearly scored after two minutes but Dida pulled off a good save after they counter-attacked very quickly. Seedorf shot wide in the opening few minutes, Cafu crossed low but Gilardino just missed making contact and Gilardino saw a header saved whilst Inzaghi nearly made it 2-0 before half-time but saw his shot smothered on the line.
Yohann Gourcuff made his official debut, replacing Andrea Pirlo with nine minutes left while I was left highly concerned when Massimo Ambrosini replaced Alberto Gilardino with about twenty minutes to go. A lead, but we have to go to Belgrade and keep our heads instead of collapsing stupidly. Red Star are powerful at home and the atmosphere won't be nice.
Looks like it will be tough for you next week. I would expect that you would still get through, but you just don't know in this funny old sport.
KainLegacy
09-08-2006, 22:31
HAPPY 33 YEAR BIRTHDAY TO INZAGHI,GREETINGS FOR HIS WINNING GOAL AND THE VICTORY!!!
Sweey,do you have info who will be next opponent if we move trough Red Star?
HAPPY 33 YEAR BIRTHDAY TO INZAGHI,GREETINGS FOR HIS WINNING GOAL AND THE VICTORY!!!
Sweey,do you have info who will be next opponent if we move trough Red Star?
We'd be in the Group Stage as top seeds in the competition and couldn't meet any of the four listed below:
ESP Grp FC Barcelona (holders) 127.006
ESP Grp Real Madrid CF 120.006
ITA Grp FC Internazionale Milano 112.020
ENG Grp Manchester United FC 100.950
Additionally, these are the other teams in the top group of seeds at this present time:
FRA Grp Olympique Lyonnais 89.757
POR Grp FC Porto 87.533
NED Grp PSV Eindhoven 81.640
GER Grp FC Bayern München 80.960
As the following four qualify (assuming any do), the above four will drop out of the top group of eight one by one.
ITA Q3 AC Milan 129.020
ENG Q3 Liverpool FC 105.950
ENG Q3 Arsenal FC 101.950
ESP Q3 Valencia CF 95.006
It looks highly likely that we could be put into a group with Bayern Munich, PSV Eindhoven or Chelsea IF we qualify. The numbers on the right are the co-efficient ratings based on the performances in European competition in the last five years.
Additionally, we cannot meet Roma as they are Italian and the same would go for Chievo Verona if they pull off a miracle against Levski Sofia next week.
KainLegacy
10-08-2006, 02:55
Thanks for the info,you are always useful :P .As I look at hte teams,it seems we will beat them all,but Arsenal or Lyon(no matter the 3-1 result wast year) are dangerous.
For Chievo...dont expect miracles.All of our bulgarian clubs are GREAT in Euro tournaments(and poor in our Leagues,for that I support Italian club,Seria A is my favourite).
By the way...did Kahn retired?I love to see Milan score goals at Bayern and he starts to piss off,its a funny picture to look.
I think he's still at Bayern. You're a confident fan - I'm never confident in Milan, they've let me down in ridiculous ways too many times (i.e. Deportivo, Liverpool).
KainLegacy
10-08-2006, 18:51
Lets dont talk about the final with Liverpool...there is no team that can win all the times and I dont expect such things from Milan,at least they can do draw if not win at important matches,but the opponent also play,its never one sided in a tournament.
that was absolutely discusting, I can't believe how milan lost that one to liverpool. Anyways, someone keep me updated, are we going to sign someone or not?
Unlikely to sign anyone until after the second leg with Red Star Belgrade. We can't offer CL football until we're in the group stages which is a massive stumbling block. Unfortunately, the "number one" target according to the media is Ronaldo. Bad move in my opinion - if it happens - his attitude is poor, his professionalism is dire and he always expects special treatment.
C.Ronaldo or Ronaldo Lima?
I wouldn't mind Ronaldo coming actually, he in my opinion is a better catch than Drogba, so hey, an improvement for milan, yay.
at least ronaldo can:
make better pass than inzaghi and adriano
brazillian, work well with Kaka
score, but if he doesn't do it enough we got Gila for that
better attitude (IMO) than Zlatan, C.R. and Drogba.
C.Ronaldo or Ronaldo Lima?
I wouldn't mind Ronaldo coming actually, he in my opinion is a better catch than Drogba, so hey, an improvement for milan, yay.
at least ronaldo can:
make better pass than inzaghi and adriano
brazillian, work well with Kaka
score, but if he doesn't do it enough we got Gila for that
better attitude (IMO) than Zlatan, C.R. and Drogba.
The fat one ;) Cristiano Ronaldo is a winger and as Ancelotti said two weeks ago "Milan can't sign wingers, we would have to change our system".
i see, well...with our situation right now, I think Ronaldo is our best bet, but he gets injured too often.
I'm reading reports saying that we will open talks with Atletico Madrid about a £22m move for Fernando Torres as we're playing a friendly against them tonight.
Line-ups:
MILAN: Dida; Bonera, Simic, Favalli, Jankulovski; Brocchi, Vogel, Ambrosini; Gourcuff; Borriello, Amoroso.
Subs: Coppola, Cafu, Astori, Gattuso, Foggia, Seedorf, Kakà, Serginho, Gilardino.
ATLETICO MADRID: Franco; Sefairidis, Perea, Pernia, Pablo; Rodriguez, Petrov, Gabi, Luccin; Aguero, Torres.
Is Pirlo injured, or just being rested?
if we do get torres, that'd be good, except....non of our forwards are super dribblers like shev.
milan dont deserve 2 b in da champs leag, i hope they fuckin go out the group, they shud av had a harder punishment
KainLegacy
13-08-2006, 01:32
Wow,NO RONALDO!!!I felt I need to say that.I prefer Мартин Петров(sry about the cyrilic :P , I felt I need to do that too,its Petrov),but he seems to be more winger than attacker,but he is a great dribller and is VERY fast.
Torres is going to be a pro player after 1-2 years so why not?
Heh,I want at least one bulgarian in my favourite team,but I dont see it happening(although we are very good players).
I didnt see that frendly to be mentioned anywhere?!Strange.
umm, we're talking about fatty ronaldo, he aint no winger i dont think.
torres is okay, he'll need to dribble more tho...or i guess Kaka will need to take over shev's dribbling jobs.
btw, who would you say was the player that Milan built around b4 shevchenko left?
btw, who would you say was the player that Milan built around b4 shevchenko left?
Not sure I understand the question.
We beat Atletico 1-0 last night thanks to an Ambrosini goal. He was captain last night and after a Gourcuff corner (we've got a new corner taker! and we need it!) was poorly cleared. We play the evil ones tonight - Deportivo La Coruna - in the final of the tournament.
This coming season we will depend massively on Clarence Seedorf and it concerns me as he usually starts the season brilliantly and keeps going downhill from there until by February time he's giving the ball away constantly and ruining all of our attacking moves. I am hopeful that Gourcuff and Foggia can provide goals that we normally lack from midfield. As for the dribbling, maybe one of them can provide some of it. I do not believe Fernando Torres can perform in Serie A - if we sign him I desperately hope he proves me wrong.
This morning the three big Italian paperss are all giving different stories. One says we are chasing Ronaldo, another that we are chasing Ronaldinho again and the third that we're closer to Fernando Torres. Usually they are all accurate and can pinpoint the day that a player will be signed. Still want Tevez more than any of those three though.
milan dont deserve 2 b in da champs leag, i hope they fuckin go out the group, they shud av had a harder punishment
You're an idiot who knows nothing about the situation in that case as we DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. If there had been proof to the contrary I would say we deserved an actual punishment and if it was serious enough, demotion. There was, however, no proof supplied by the prosecutors. Your use of 'txt spk' should deem you worthy of a punishment.
Line-ups for tonight's "friendly" with Deportivo La Coruna.
DEPORTIVO: Mackay; Rodri, Coloccini, Lopo, Sergio; Bodipo, Arizmendi, Riki, Juan Rodriguez; Arreloa, Barragan.
Subs: Munua; Manuel Pablo, De Guzman, Duscher, Verdù, Cristian, Ivan Perez
MILAN: Coppola; Cafu, Favalli, Costacurta, Serginho; Gattuso, Pirlo, Vogel, Kakà; Gilardino, Inzaghi.
Subs: Dida, Astori, Vogel, Jankulovski, Brocchi, Foggia, Amoroso, Borriello.
It seems Gourcuff is fitting in well at Milan, eh Sweey?
Tell me about him, is he playing alright?
And is Ambrosini set to play a bigger role this season? I think he is pretty much under-rated.
It seems Gourcuff is fitting in well at Milan, eh Sweey?
Tell me about him, is he playing alright?
And is Ambrosini set to play a bigger role this season? I think he is pretty much under-rated.
Gourcuff has done nicely so far and is fitting in well. They all respect him highly at Milan and are expecting big things from him which is good for both him and the club. We've only played three games so far (including friendlies) but he's expected to feature a fair bit during the season once the league starts - unless we fail to get anywhere in Europe.
Ambrosini is expected to get a bigger role this season but the problem is that he is vying with Gattuso for a starting place. The other side to that is Johann Vogel who has done very well when he's started but doesn't get many opportunities. We have to drop either Pirlo or Gattuso for one of them to start. Interestingly, tonight's formation sees Vogel, Pirlo and Gattuso are all starting.
Ancelotti spoke a month or more ago about a new midfield tactic where he will play Gattuso closer to Pirlo in order to try and free him up a bit more. He may even go as far as to play an extra midfielder behind Pirlo which is where Ambrosini comes in. Time will tell...
Billy Minof
13-08-2006, 22:50
I read ye are interested in Ronaldo off of Real and could get him for about 10mil as a result of his share price plumeting. :(
I read ye are interested in Ronaldo off of Real and could get him for about 10mil as a result of his share price plumeting. :(
As gifted as he is and cheap at £10m, his "problems", attitude and self-importance would worry me far too much. I'd be waiting for him to have a strop, put on yet more weight, run back to Brazil or go AWOL because we won't spoil him or give him preferential treatment.
Dr. Bob Kelso
13-08-2006, 22:58
As gifted as he is and cheap at £10m, his "problems", attitude and self-importance would worry me far too much. I'd be waiting for him to have a strop, put on yet more weight, run back to Brazil or go AWOL because we won't spoil him or give him preferential treatment.
Surely it would be 10 million Euros and I think they would consider any offers to be honest. I wouldn't mind seeing him at Liverpool at all.
Billy Minof
13-08-2006, 22:59
As gifted as he is and cheap at £10m, his "problems", attitude and self-importance would worry me far too much. I'd be waiting for him to have a strop, put on yet more weight, run back to Brazil or go AWOL because we won't spoil him or give him preferential treatment.
Always a chance but one I think ye would be willing to take a measly 10mil, if he comes good, gets into form and stays fit he would be top scorer in Italy and would surely fire ye to the league title, all only if he is fit though and happy of course. :huh:
Always a chance but one I think ye would be willing to take a measly 10mil, if he comes good, gets into form and stays fit he would be top scorer in Italy and would surely fire ye to the league title, all only if he is fit though and happy of course. :huh:
Too risky in my eyes because:
1. Both he and Inzaghi are injury-prone
2. Amoroso is our fourth-choice striker and way past his best - there is also no reserve team football for him to keep his sharpness when not playing. Borriello is out fifth-choice striker and he's just not good enough.
3. Gilardino could do a fantastic job as a lone striker if both Ronaldo and Inzaghi were injured but Berluscoini refuses to let Ancelotti use only striker.
Of course, I'm sure I could come up with similar reasons not to buy Fernando Torres because we all know I want Tevez but then that's why I want Tevez - I don't have concerns about how he would do for us.
A 3-1 defeat to Deportivo La Coruna tonight which I'm not pleased with despite the shocking defensive line-up (Cafu, Favalli, Costacurta, Serginho).
The Milan website had called the 1-0 win over Atletico "Another step forward" which I didn't agree with so I'd love to see what they say now. Of course, they have to try and generate fan interest by being that way inclined as an official website but it is annoying.
mufcsean
13-08-2006, 23:36
Who scored for Milan
Kaka with a penalty to make it 1-1 after Coloccini had scored. Riki restored Depor's lead in the first half with a free-kick and Juan Rodriguez scored a deflected free-kick in the last minute.
Joel Rojo
14-08-2006, 00:08
A 3-1 defeat to Deportivo La Coruna tonight which I'm not pleased with despite the shocking defensive line-up (Cafu, Favalli, Costacurta, Serginho).
What's shocking is that that defensive line up is, on average, over 36 years old.
Viperized
14-08-2006, 00:46
A 3-1 defeat to Deportivo La Coruna tonight which I'm not pleased with despite the shocking defensive line-up (Cafu, Favalli, Costacurta, Serginho).
The Milan website had called the 1-0 win over Atletico "Another step forward" which I didn't agree with so I'd love to see what they say now. Of course, they have to try and generate fan interest by being that way inclined as an official website but it is annoying.
Didn't Deportivo hammer Milan 4-0 in the Champions League a while back? Luque was brilliant in that much.
I think it was 4-1 to Milan in the first leg but somehow Deportivo won 4-0 in the second leg.
KainLegacy
14-08-2006, 01:44
Deportivo are strong team and it seems we cant counter their tactics...
Sweey,I want Tevez too,but you see there is no interest in him(Stupid manager :( ).Why not allowing only one striker?We played like that in the past...
I think its cus Shevchenko was such a good all-round striker, that the lone striker works well. With Gilardino....You will need a support striker to make up for his not excellent dribbling abilities. I could see Kaka stepping a bit more front and do that job, but who will cover our ass in the midfield? We kinda need another midfielder don't we...OR, EVEN BETTER, another striker.
Sorry Sweey, What i meant to ask is:
who was the most central player on AC Milan, as in the player that was there so every other player was built around him.
It is a little confusing, but here is an example:
-Barcelona built most of their team around Ronaldinho(which is why Ronaldinho is so good in barca but sucked in brazil).
-i try to find another example, but I'm afraid to be incorrect due to my poor soccer knowledge.
Sorry Sweey, What i meant to ask is:
who was the most central player on AC Milan, as in the player that was there so every other player was built around him.
It is a little confusing, but here is an example:
-Barcelona built most of their team around Ronaldinho(which is why Ronaldinho is so good in barca but sucked in brazil).
-i try to find another example, but I'm afraid to be incorrect due to my poor soccer knowledge.
For us it is Pirlo - the midfield is supposedly built around him.
Joel Rojo: Bonera was rested(?), Nesta unfit and Maldini injured (again - though he doesn't bring the average age down). Plus Simic is injured and Kaladze....somewhere. Those four would bring the age down.
Kain: Gilardino rose to prominence playing as a lone stirker with Parma but after trailing 2-0 to Inter in a derby three or four years ago, Berlusconi demanded a second striker be put on and we won 3-2. After that, he said he wouldn't employ someone who plays only striker as a club like Milan should always use two. I am unhappy with our lack of interest in Tevez but let's see what does or doesn't happen. Maybe he's another we can't get without CL football in which case we're stuck for another week or so at least.
Yaohan: Ambrosini, Gattuso, Pirlo, Seedorf, Vogel, Kaka, Foggia, Gourcuff, Brocchi - we don't need any more midfielders. Ambrosini, Gattuso, Vogel and Brocchi can all defend, Foggia, Gourcuff and Kaka can all attack and both Pirlo and Seedorf can do both.
Meanwhile, Red Star Belgrade won 1-0 at home to Sartid Smederevo yesterday with a goal from Nikola Zigic after an hour. They are yet to concede at home this season - in fact, we're the only team to have scored against them.
KainLegacy
14-08-2006, 22:19
Sweey,the reason for the win is NOT ONLY the fact we used second striker,but because we changed our formation and the enemy was unable to respond adequately.So making changes is the key if you lose badly.
Probably Inzaghi scored because he was overexited about his birthday.The second match is 0-0 and we move forward...For the first match I said "2-1" which is uncorrect,but atleast I said the goal advantage right so the second is probably draw...I hope :P .
Sweey,the reason for the win is NOT ONLY the fact we used second striker,but because we changed our formation and the enemy was unable to respond adequately.So making changes is the key if you lose badly.
Probably Inzaghi scored because he was overexited about his birthday.The second match is 0-0 and we move forward...For the first match I said "2-1" which is uncorrect,but atleast I said the goal advantage right so the second is probably draw...I hope :P .
Let us hope so. They are a horrible side to play away to and I'm not looking forward to it.
Uh-oh...
Ancelotti is seriously pondering the idea of a swoop for Udinese and Italy striker Vincenzo Iaquinta.
:huh:
Interested to hear what yaohan and Kain think about this:
Andriy Shevchenko has defended his kissing of the Chelsea badge after scoring in Sunday's Community Shield defeat to Liverpool.
Fans in Milan have jammed radio phone-ins, claiming his actions showed a lack of respect after seven years at the club.
He declared: "Normally, I only ever kiss the shirt of my country.
"I wanted to celebrate with the team and I did not know what I was doing.
"I do not want to win over the Chelsea fans with these gestures. I want to win them over with goals and the quality of my football.
"I am sorry my goal was not enough against Liverpool. But it was my first goal for the club, which was important. I am glad I scored. Hopefully, I can go on to score more.
"To play in Cardiff was a nice experience. I was struck by the public and the respect they gave to the players.
"The atmosphere was great. Compared to Italy and the Ukraine, it was very different.
"The team has really welcomed me. My English at the moment is not too good but I am taking lessons and I hope I will improve very soon.
"I love London. It is a fantastic city. I have not seen many of the landmarks but I would like to in the near future."
Sheva added: "I don't like diving or cheating.
"I don't think people in England like it either. I have never cheated and I don't ever want to do so."
I'm pretty disgusted by it to be fair.
KainLegacy
15-08-2006, 09:08
Why The F*** Iaquinta???
About Sheva...maybe I need to throw the shirt with his name on the back dont you think?So lets see...he is proud of Chelsea with playing just one game and for that is kissing the emblem?!He thinks the atmosphere in Italy and Ukraine is crap?!Only the england public gave him respect?!
Sheva added: "I don't like diving or cheating.
"I don't think people in England like it either. I have never cheated and I don't ever want to do so."
AND THATS THE BIGGEST LIE I HEARD!!!I mean the part "NEVER CHEATED",there is no such human...well I am partly his fan(was?!) so I shouldnt be so harsh,but OMG!!!
Glad to see my reaction is shared by another. Footballers are fickle, but I never thought he was one of those sort.
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/aug15a.html
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/aug15a.html
He can fuck off :)
"Ancelotti was rather ironic about the incident. “It didn’t take him long to grow fond of his new outfit,” he said with a smile on his face."
that was classic.
I was disappointed with Shev when he decided to left Milan, kissing shirt didn't really bother me that much. I think the reason why he is doing this is because Shevchenko is very happy, very happy to get a big fat raise and score a goal so soon to keep that big fat raise, It's a normal reaction, who wouldn't be happy in his situation?
I didn't like what he said here though, it is obvious who he is targeting and I'm absolutely discusted by what he said here (after playing for 7 years with us this is what we get):
Sheva added: "I don't like diving or cheating.
"I don't think people in England like it either. I have never cheated and I don't ever want to do so."
I am much more discusted by that than him kissing his new club's ass.
*edit-I just realized that Kain had the same reaction about the cheating bs hehe...didn't mean to copy yours I didn't see yours before i submitted mine.
KainLegacy
16-08-2006, 05:01
No Probelm.
Its sad,but it shouldnt botter us anymore...well if Pirlo do something like this I will jump out of the window :P.
[OFFTOPIC]I just want to state that my sister bought me a Milan shirt for my birthday and thats the reason its with the Sheva name on it.Its rather old so I need to change it anyway...[/OFFFTOPIC]
Make no mistake - Kaka would do the same thing if he left. He might be staying this season but he's going to have to go a long way to win me over.
Ambrosini's comments about Shevchenko were both very good and accurate. That's one thing I like about him - he cares for the club and talks like a fan sometimes.
is ambrosini a starter for us?
Kaka with a penalty to make it 1-1 after Coloccini had scored. Riki restored Depor's lead in the first half with a free-kick and Juan Rodriguez scored a deflected free-kick in the last minute.
Just out of Curiousity
Is Kaka a better PK? Or is Ronaldinho a better PK?
For me I can't say but I always saw Kaka score penalty and I happen to have seen that Moretto (benfica) save against Dinho.
That is very one sided and quick+inaccurate conclusions though, So I just want to know who people think is a better PK.
KainLegacy
17-08-2006, 07:51
The best player at set piece in the world is Pirlo(includin PK's),end of line!!!(If there are Juninho fans around,dont blame me).
I think Roni is better.He may be an ugly bastard(again sorry if his fans read it),but is better in my oppinion.
Is there a site where I can see the standings and results for Serie A?Because tracking everything in mind and buying newspapers for info is no good.
The best player at set piece in the world is Pirlo(includin PK's),end of line!!!(If there are Juninho fans around,dont blame me).
I think Roni is better.He may be an ugly bastard(again sorry if his fans read it),but is better in my oppinion.
Is there a site where I can see the standings and results for Serie A?Because tracking everything in mind and buying newspapers for info is no good.
I update the results and table here:
http://www.pesinsight.com/showthread.php?t=34038&page=37&highlight=Serie
The season doesn't start until September 9/10. Of course, if yourself and yaohan keep coming in this thread, I'll update it regularly too :tongue:
Just out of Curiousity
Is Kaka a better PK? Or is Ronaldinho a better PK?
For me I can't say but I always saw Kaka score penalty and I happen to have seen that Moretto (benfica) save against Dinho.
That is very one sided and quick+inaccurate conclusions though, So I just want to know who people think is a better PK.
I'm not too sure about Kaka as a penalty taker. He's fairly good - not as good as Pirlo - but I haven't seen enough to compare both him and Ronaldinho.
Fingers crossed!!!
Reports in Italy are suggesting that Argentine Carlos Tevez is Milan’s new target as they search for Andriy Shevchenko’s replacement.
The Rossoneri have already been linked with Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Didier Drogba and Vincenzo Iaquinta in their quest to find the Ukrainian’s successor.
Tevez is currently contracted to Corinthians and his name has now been added to the Via Turati club’s shortlist.
The 22-year-old striker has expressed his desire to leave the Brazilian Champions, after leading them to victory by scoring a total of 19 goals in last year’s championship.
According to the Brazilian newspaper Lance, Milan Vice-President Adriano Galliani flew to Brazil to discuss Tevez’s transfer with the club and may offer up to £13m to bring the striker to Serie A.
Tevez joined Corinthians in 2005 for £10m after four years with Boca Juniors, also being voted South American Player of the Year for the last three consecutive years.
The young striker led Argentina to the Olympic goal medal in 2004 and was one of the most impressive players on Jose Pekerman’s squad at the 2006 World Cup.
Milan will now wait for the result of their Champions League third qualifying round match against Red Star Belgrade before making a firm offer.
If the Rossoneri were to fail to qualify for the Champions League group stage, their summer market would be officially considered closed.
OH MAN TEVEZ IS GOOD
EVEN IN THE PES GAME THEY GAVE HIM GOOD LOAD OF POTENTIAL...
anyways Tevez is young, we saw him in the world cup he was decent. I don't know if he has an attitude problem so i assume he doesn't. ANyways, Tevez can dribble, can pass to limited extend, and definitely can shoot. A rising star is always better than a fading out of form superstar (sorry ronaldo).
KainLegacy
18-08-2006, 06:16
Lets give our hopes.The rematch with Red Star must end first though so I concentrate all my energy for the match.Ronaldo,Drogba and Iaquinta suck and I hear for the first time about Ronaldinho o_O,leave him at Barca for god sake,he can play only there.
Tevez is the man to buy and probably we will win the CL with him(no matter Serie A is the main priority).I am no glory hunter(as most Chelsea fans are right now) and I dont care even if we dont win anything,but atleast we should make a base for advancment in the coming years if not from this one.I mean if we cant even keep our stars will other stars join the club,I dont think so(grrrrrrrr,Kaka,you annoy me).
if we lose to red star, its all over isn't it?
OH MAN TEVEZ IS GOOD
EVEN IN THE PES GAME THEY GAVE HIM GOOD LOAD OF POTENTIAL...
anyways Tevez is young, we saw him in the world cup he was decent. I don't know if he has an attitude problem so i assume he doesn't. ANyways, Tevez can dribble, can pass to limited extend, and definitely can shoot. A rising star is always better than a fading out of form superstar (sorry ronaldo).
He does have attitude problems sometimes, but I'm convinced he won't be too disruptive IF we sign him.
if we lose to red star, its all over isn't it?
Yes :(
I'm hearing early reports this morning that we may announce the signing of Internacional striker Rafael Sobis this weekend. Whether we'd get Tevez on top of that I'm not sure but I would welcome the signings of both Sobis and Tevez. If we were to make only one, surely it would have to be Tevez. He's THAT good and can offer us so much.
well...Sobis is brazilian...Im sure Kaka wud be happy if we sign Sobis...
btw, is it true that we won't sign either one of them if we dont win red star?
well...Sobis is brazilian...Im sure Kaka wud be happy if we sign Sobis...
btw, is it true that we won't sign either one of them if we dont win red star?
Conflicting reports. What I saw yesterday suggested if we don't beat Red Star we won't sign anyone, but the reports on Sobis this morning say we might announce his capture this weekend - three or four days before we even play against Red Star.
fuckin milan shouldnt b in the fuckin champions leag, match fixin pricks, i hope they go out reli early
KainLegacy
18-08-2006, 12:05
STFU!!!Milan have nothing to do with match fixing,its confusion,thats all.
In which team Sobis is playing right now?
STFU!!!Milan have nothing to do with match fixing,its confusion,thats all.
In which team Sobis is playing right now?
Internacional - helped them win the Copa Libertadores. Pretty much looks a done deal now.
Glenn, considering you're a stupid ignorant little twat with no knowledge you can go and fuck yourself. If someone can show me evidence that Milan deserve a heavy punishment, present it to the courts and if we have done wrong, we deserve to be heavily punished. I've said that all along. If we've done wrong we deserve the penalty, if we haven't we don't and the "evidence" provided is ridiculously flimsy which I'm obviously pleased about as I'm a Milanista.
just ignore glenn, he is infamous for excessively using the f-word and cunt, and failing to spell out other words(txtspch). Just check all the 30 posts he has made.
Kairoshousen
18-08-2006, 17:46
what the fuck is up with ac milan? fucken idiots 13 million for tevez? wth do they not know how good he is....do they not know all they have is poachers?
Seriouly they just sold schechenko for 30 million, SPEND THAT 3O MILLION ON TEVEZ NOW YOU IDIOTS.....I wanted tevez at inter but seeing how they've just signed two more strikers, and milan need him I'd be happy to see him sign.
13 million wtf hes woth 30 million cheap fucks, sign him now or have a team with two poachers playing together....idiots
what the fuck is up with ac milan? fucken idiots 13 million for tevez? wth do they not know how good he is....do they not know all they have is poachers?
Seriouly they just sold schechenko for 30 million, SPEND THAT 3O MILLION ON TEVEZ NOW YOU IDIOTS.....I wanted tevez at inter but seeing how they've just signed two more strikers, and milan need him I'd be happy to see him sign.
13 million wtf hes woth 30 million cheap fucks, sign him now or have a team with two poachers playing together....idiots
The only idiot is you and this is why:
-We received £30m for Shevchenko
-We will lose £30m by not competing in the CL if we get knocked out by Red Star Belgrade on Wednesday.
net profit: £0!
Further to that, whilst I agree Tevez is worth more than £13m, why are we going to go in the way Real Madrid do throwing money about when we may get him cheaper than everyone thinks possible?? We're not Inter-fucking-Milan either you know, and thank fuck for that!
Kairoshousen
18-08-2006, 19:43
lol im no idiot, don't make it sound like ac has no cash they make no singings other then 30+ men each year other than gilardino last year they've bought no one.....tevez is a bargain at 30 million he is everything they need and more.
Hes a powerful support striker with amazing contol and vision, he can finish too. he will be better for them than shecchenko
they will beat redstar
and they might get him chaeper? yeah they might get him cheaper or they might have a team thats missed out on one of the worlds best young players and are stuck with a team where the avrage age is like 30 and they have two poachers working up front together.
Tevez is a buy for the future and for now, net profit 0? lol you have tevez, who cares if the net profit is minus 10 million?
you gotta spend money to make money, and tevez is a bargain at 30 million
lol im no idiot, don't make it sound like ac has no cash they make no singings other then 30+ men each year other than gilardino last year they've bought no one.....tevez is a bargain at 30 million he is everything they need and more.
Hes a powerful support striker with amazing contol and vision, he can finish too. he will be better for them than shecchenko
they will beat redstar
and they might get him chaeper? yeah they might get him cheaper or they might have a team thats missed out on one of the worlds best young players and are stuck with a team where the avrage age is like 30 and they have two poachers working up front together.
Tevez is a buy for the future and for now, net profit 0? lol you have tevez, who cares if the net profit is minus 10 million?
you gotta spend money to make money, and tevez is a bargain at 30 million
Berlusconi does not run Milan that way, although I have to state now that the ridiculous numbers being thrown about over a possible Ronaldinho deal made me very angry - no player is worth that much money no matter how good they are. They break a leg and they can't play, regardless of their talent.
Tevez is not a bargain at £30m because he is untested in Europe. Shevchenko is one of the best strikers in the world, not just a particular continent unlike Tevez - despite the fact I think he'll do magnificently in Europe. I do think we'll need to pay around £16m for Tevez but lets see who ends up buying him and how much for - hopefully it WILL be us.
The whole fact we have an old squad is why paying £30m for Tevez is a bad idea. If we get him and Sobis, hypothetically, for £22m plus have Bonera, we could get Oddo for £6m and not have actually spent much money over the summer at all in buying two young strikers, a young defender and a much younger right-back who is similar in playing style to Cafu. Of course, that can only be done if we beat Red Star who I'm fully aware of as I follow them. They are not the sort of side who get thrashed and are very dangerous at home.
As for last season, we bought Johann Vogel, Marek Jankulovski, Zeljko Kalac, Dmitris Eleftheropoulos (what a bad move!!!) and Christian Vieri (:no:) and most were on free transfers. That meant we strengthened the squad without spending money - something we regularly do now. Gilardino cost around £18m - a good £12m short of the £30m you are claiming we spent for him and he was needed considering our only threat in attack was Shevchenko due to long-term injury to Inzaghi who is now back and very much capable of scoring 15 Serie A goals this coming season.
Similarly this season, we need to strengthen the squad not just replace Shevchenko with one striker and use other money to sort the defence out. That would be very bad business sense. We are trying to avoid ending up in the sort of financial situation other clubs like Fiorentina have found themselves in previously as Berlusconi does not wish to sell the club.
Kairoshousen
18-08-2006, 20:06
Gilardino cost around £18m - a good £12m short of the £30m you are claiming we spent for him and
What I never clamied ac milan boght gilardino for 30 million, where the hell did you get that from?
And yeah I know there reason for not wanting to splash out on him and they do have a very strong squad and other postions they need to fill....but I stand by 30 million for tevez is a good buy, if worhless players like ronney and fer hi and cost close to 30 million tevez should be woryh alot more.
What I never clamied ac milan boght gilardino for 30 million, where the hell did you get that from?
When you said...
lol im no idiot, don't make it sound like ac has no cash they make no singings other then 30+ men each year other than gilardino last year they've bought no one.....tevez is a bargain at 30 million he is everything they need and more.
Also........
And yeah I know there reason for not wanting to splash out on him and they do have a very strong squad and other postions they need to fill....but I stand by 30 million for tevez is a good buy, if worhless players like ronney and fer hi and cost close to 30 million tevez should be woryh alot more.
Just because Rooney was overpriced at £30m doesn't mean Tevez should command an even higher fee. It doesn't work that way.
Kairoshousen
18-08-2006, 20:30
When you said...
Also........
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Just because Rooney was overpriced at £30m doesn't mean Tevez should command an even higher fee. It doesn't work that way.
lol im no idiot, don't make it sound like ac has no cash they make no singings other then 30+ men each year other than gilardino last year they've bought no one.....tevez is a bargain at 30 million he is everything they need and more.
let me elaborate then, They make no signings other then 30+ men(as in 30 year old men like amososo favali vieri etc..) other then them buying a ver young player gilardino last year....I was talking about how most of there signings a very old they have money to spare
Just because Rooney was overpriced at £30m doesn't mean Tevez should command an even higher fee. It doesn't work that way
Im just saying if ronney is woth 30 million then tevez is woth like 50 million im not saying thats how much they should pay for him, im saying thats how much he should be valued at if someone as awfull as ronney is 30 million.
Also iirc when corinthians bought tevez they gave him a 40 million buy out clause... I though this still stood, maybe it has changed...i dunno
let me elaborate then, They make no signings other then 30+ men(as in 30 year old men like amososo favali vieri etc..) other then them buying a ver young player gilardino last year....I was talking about how most of there signings a very old they have money to spare
Ah I see what you mean ;) - although Vogel and Jankulovski are under 30 :tongue:
Im just saying if ronney is woth 30 million then tevez is woth like 50 million im not saying thats how much they should pay for him, im saying thats how much he should be valued at if someone as awfull as ronney is 30 million.
Also iirc when corinthians bought tevez they gave him a 40 million buy out clause... I though this still stood, maybe it has changed...i dunno
I totally agree with you and think the £13m we're "willing to go up to" is too low, but I also don't think we should pay £30m for him. I desperately want him to join us but Berlusconi has done an amazing job with the club for 20 years and I have faith in the way he does things.
KainLegacy
18-08-2006, 23:57
The administration is a farce,but I dont want advices from Real fan...thats the crappiest team out there(ok,almost).They have so much stars and still cant win important matches(and some not so important).First look at your squad then advice others(I have nothing aggainst you,I dont want to argue,so lets dont start this).
About Tevez...he maybe is THE NEXT MARADONA,but it is also possible to just have 1 good year and then to be medicore player.For such a young player you cant spend that much money,his future talent is yet to be seen.Ronaldinho costs DOUBLE the Zidane price o_O and he have 1 brilliant match out of 3(lets dont talk about his injuries)...
lets just wait and hopefully we sign Tevez for somewhere between 15 to 20 mil
Joel Rojo
19-08-2006, 07:21
There's some hope. Although Tevez has been very happy being near home, he was just removed from the captain position at Corinthians, because he supposedly couldn't communicate with his teammates, according to Corinthians's manager Emerson Leao, the only source I could find is in spanish, but if you want it, it's here (http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/5884668)
sobis aint bad either i'd say
The Corriere dello Sport have quoted Silvio Berlusconi as saying that Rafael Sobis is not good enough to play for Milan...
Kairoshousen
19-08-2006, 13:49
The administration is a farce,but I dont want advices from Real fan...thats the crappiest team out there(ok,almost).They have so much stars and still cant win important matches(and some not so important).First look at your squad then advice others(I have nothing aggainst you,I dont want to argue,so lets dont start this).
About Tevez...he maybe is THE NEXT MARADONA,but it is also possible to just have 1 good year and then to be medicore player.For such a young player you cant spend that much money,his future talent is yet to be seen.Ronaldinho costs DOUBLE the Zidane price o_O and he have 1 brilliant match out of 3(lets dont talk about his injuries)...
lol im all to aware of how awfull they are...and there is a possibilty that will carry over into this year.
Tevez I have been watching him since he was 19, he has been incredible since then and right now he is one of the worlds best....and no one should worry about him in europe, he''ll be perfect for italy
The Corriere dello Sport have quoted Silvio Berlusconi as saying that Rafael Sobis is not good enough to play for Milan...
A flawed statement. How would he explain Amoroso and Kalac? :tongue:
Tevez is surely no new Maradona. If anyone is to be considered that, it's Messi. * Mind that this statement was and is totally useless to the discussion at hand *
I have a feeling Tevez won't be any good for Milan.
A flawed statement. How would he explain Amoroso and Kalac? :tongue:
Tevez is surely no new Maradona. If anyone is to be considered that, it's Messi. * Mind that this statement was and is totally useless to the discussion at hand *
I have a feeling Tevez won't be any good for Milan.
:shocking: I honestly believe Tevez would be (after three to six months) absolutely brilliant for us.
Amoroso and Kalac....must you open up old wounds? :crymore:
You guys could be getting Massimo Oddo, what do you guys think about that?
Personally, I'm sceptical about the deal even going through as it depends on Simic moving the other way and he isn't an attacking full-back the way Oddo is. Oddo is the sort of player we need - a backup to Cafu who can actually do the same job - but I don't like the fact he is 30. Still, Cafu is 37 so its a step in the right direction.
News on the Sobis transfer: his agent claims that we have agreed a fee with Internacional and terms with the player and that we need only to fax the club to tell them how we are going to transfer the money. However, he said Valencia have matched the offer and will meet Internacional officials on Monday, claiming that if Milan still want Sobis he will not go to Valencia despite that meeting.
Sobis deal is starting to look shaky. Not even going to bother with more details as we'll all find out if it goes through or not in the next three or four days. Milan officials have not been entirely happy with a single striking target so far this summer which makes me wonder quite who they think they're waiting for.
The squad for Belgrade:
Goalkeepers Dida (1), Coppola (78), Kalac (16)
Defenders Bonera (25), Cafu (2), Costacurta (5), Favalli (19), Jankulovski (18), Serginho (27), Simic (17)
Midfielders Ambrosini (23), Brocchi (32), Foggia (83), Gattuso (8), Gourcuff (20), Kakà (22), Pirlo (21), Seedorf (10)
Forwards Amoroso (37), Borriello (12), Gilardino (11), Inzaghi (9)
KainLegacy
20-08-2006, 20:53
Why Bonera is nowhere on the official site?All the others are,but he is nowhere to be seen,why is that?
Because I'm not running it :(
KainLegacy
20-08-2006, 23:16
HAhahahaha.
And Fiori retired,yes?He is still on the site...
Not sure quite what Fiori has done - he may be playing elsewhere rather than retired.
Is Gourcuff on there? If not then, like Roma and Lecce amongst others, the official websites are still listing the 2005/06 squads.
Billy Minof
21-08-2006, 00:06
Sweey,
Any word on new signings?
Well.......
The Rafael Sobis deal is looking dodgy because Valencia are holding talks with Internacional tomorrow. Sobis' agent says that if Milan want him, he will not go to Valencia (IF they agree a deal with Internacional) but said we need to get a move on. Berlusconi says Sobis isn't good enough to play for the club - according to a newspaper report - so not sure what's going on.
Massimo Oddo's price-tag has been reduced to £6m. Lazio see Dario Simic as an ideal replacement and want him and possibly Pasquale Foggia (a young, very talented attacking midfielder/winger) as part of a deal.
Aside from that, nothing. I'd be happy to get Oddo in an exchange deal for Simic and Sobis in a transfer but still want Tevez.
My god Milan Strikers looks horrible....other than Gilardino....WE DESPERATELY NEEDS ANOTHER STRIKER, even if we don't get into CL.
think about it, what if we slip to Inter...wouldn't that be even worse. think about some million dollars deficits as an investment to beat Inter.
Billy Minof
21-08-2006, 11:58
Ronaldo rumours are back again.....
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/overseas/spain/news/
I knew that was going to happen...:no:
EDIT: Talks between Internacional and Milan have stalled over Sobis. I doubt he'll come. Berlusconi seems not to want him.
you know, this might sound stupid...but...
I think Kaka will make a fine partnership with Gilardino as a second striker.
Kaka with good passing abilities, pretty good vision (not superb tho), and he definitely can score. average about 1 goal per 3 game, for an attacking midfielder that is impressive, and for even for a second striker that is not bad at all. If we don't get another striker, I think Kaka will have to furfill this role until the transfer window.
Also, I wud never trade Kaka for Ronaldo, NEVER
My friend says he read somewhere on the internet that Ancelotti wants to try a 4-2-3-1 formation this season. Although I believe Berlusconi would quickly put an end to that sort of talk, if it were to happen it would suit Gilardino, allow Pirlo to play in a central role behind him with two defensive midfielders backing him up, Kaka on the right and Tevez (I WISH!!) on the left - more likely Seedorf, Jankulovski or Serginho. Something worth thinking about at least...
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