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Stella Artois
30-10-2006, 15:03
@Ahmedios:

Therefore in 2004 Greece was the best league in Europe? Christ you talk some shit.

I dislike arguing with you as you don't understand a lot of what I say. Just because I dislike arguing with you, doesn't mean you understand me.

Comprende?

Karaoke29
30-10-2006, 15:07
Regardless, the sooner Berlusconi drops this Ronaldinho thing the better. Hopefully he's being smart and using this as a smokescreen for something else - I can't work out why he would believe Ronaldinho is the answer to our increasing squad problems.

Actually, Ronaldinho is a great addition to any team. But Berlusconi must perceive that Milan will live without Ronaldinho. Looking for someone else is the best solution now, besides, I do not think that Ronaldinho worth 70M.

Karaoke29
30-10-2006, 15:15
@Ahmedios:

Therefore in 2004 Greece was the best league in Europe? Christ you talk some shit.

Do not compare Italy to Greece. This doesn't make sense at all. What happened in the previous european nations was an exception.

I dislike arguing with you as you don't understand a lot of what I say. Just because I dislike arguing with you, doesn't mean you understand me.

What is your problem? Their is no any relation between the language and points of views. Also, how many discussion do we have to make you say I dislike, I BLAH, BLAH, BLAH......?
Anyway, Me as well and Good Luck.

Sweey
30-10-2006, 15:30
Well if they do I never read it and if I did I just ignored it.
Seria A, I like watching it, some good matches and the stories of it being boring is just a myth, some matches are but its the same all over the world, some class matches also. But some younger people just read that its boring so never watch it then post saying its boring because they have heard it...Idiots.

Well hopefully anyone who considers watching it didn't turn into Livorno-Empoli last night. I purposely avoided it thinking it would be boring and considering the result and the fact Livorno were playing and didn't do at all well despite being at home, it sounds as though I was right to do so.

Usul
30-10-2006, 21:14
Firstly, my comment wasn't offensive, aggressive or disrespectful in any way. If anyone found offense in it, i recommend they seek therapy.

I thought it was rather humorous, but some people in these boards are such sore cunts that they, clearly, can't get over Muad'Dib having put them in their place on several occasions, and seem to be looking for fault where there is none. It's ok, Muad'Dib understands.

The fact of the matter is that Ahmedios said that he, and millions of others, think it's the best, when it is not. So, this is a clear indication that those who think it is, are either biased foreign supporters of any of it's top clubs, Italians, or people that haven't followed any other league apart from Serie A.

I don't watch every single Serie A game, as that may be hazardous to one's sanity, but i do watch games involving Milan and Inter, so my opinion is based on having watched the best teams in that league, which, by the way, doesn't mean that i have not watched Udinese and Roma games.

In my opinion, the EPL is superior, largely due to the atmosphere in the games, and La Liga, due to it's attacking football and the large number of good players that are in it.

This would be a good time to pull out the statistics and check how many European Championships each league has brought home, and which clubs have won the International Cup (or whatever it's called these days) more often. That should settle this matter, once and for all.

Anyway, i think that Ronaldinho shouldn't even contemplate going to Italy, as he's bound to get a serious injury there.

Karaoke29
30-10-2006, 22:55
I thought it was rather humorous, but some people in these boards are such sore cunts that they, clearly, can't get over Muad'Dib having put them in their place on several occasions, and seem to be looking for fault where there is none. It's ok, Muad'Dib understands.

The fact of the matter is that Ahmedios said that he, and millions of others, think it's the best, when it is not. So, this is a clear indication that those who think it is, are either biased foreign supporters of any of it's top clubs, Italians, or people that haven't followed any other league apart from Serie A.

You are off topic. It is supposed that we are here to discuss Ronaldinho's transfer. And suddenly, you left all the posts and you did comment on a post of mine which states that the Italian Serie A is the best. You think that EPL is the best, what is the problem then, it is just a matter of personal point of view which can't make you judge if I am biased to one league or not.
If I tell you that EPL is the best, so what will be your reaction? Will you think that I am not biased and I am someone who understand football.
The ridiculous thing here is that you say that people who think that Serie A is the best or one of the best are Italians...thanks for the joke :laugh:. Or people who haven't watched any league apart from Serie A, this makes me repeat what I did say; Despite watching EPL and La liga, I do prefer Serie A. It is a matter of own personal view.

At the beginning of your constructive post, you did say that its neither aggressive nor disrespectable, why?Because simply, you know that your post is aggressive and disrespectable and you did say in advance. How bright you are!!!

Jake Small
30-10-2006, 23:54
This means that millions of people, including you, are utterly deluded.

In the case of those millions, it's understandable, because they are most likely Italian.

World Cup winners from a squad that all played in this league. And that's as objective as this thread is gonna get.


Firstly, my comment wasn't offensive, aggressive or disrespectful in any way. If anyone found offense in it, i recommend they seek therapy.


Well, you did call anyone who thinks the Italian league is the best league deluded. Perhaps now that I disagree with your particular comments in this thread, I will declare you deluded. I hope you can see why that is not an offensive thing to say; I'm sure you will simply understand that it is a fact that you are deluded.

Actually, I think that you will instead see that such comments interfere with our ability to reach understanding amid such disagreements...



Sorry for the off topic-ness; now I will get back on topic.

I dislike the idea that one player is going to be some 'all important savior' to a team. I think that, as we saw in the World Cup, Ronaldinho-at-Barca is a very different player than Ronaldinho-alone or Ronaldinho-elsewhere. A great player's greatness lies in his relationship with his team, IMO, and so on that note I also hate to think that any champion would jump ship for money reasons... especially when they are already filthy rich. I know many do but it still earns disrespect from me...

Anyway I can't see some ridiculous 70M bid being anything but a huge waste of money on Milan's part. Clubs like Milan (great clubs) should focus on creating their own star players and working out their roles and relationships on the pitch..

Too big of a name, too much pressure, too much money. I don't think this sort of signing can work out well for Milan, and I wouldn't be surprised if it weakened Ronnie as a player as well.

The Stig
31-10-2006, 00:03
Actually, Ronaldinho is a great addition to any team. But Berlusconi must perceive that Milan will live without Ronaldinho. Looking for someone else is the best solution now, besides, I do not think that Ronaldinho worth 70M.
Is he hell. He's all skill free kicks and pace. Kaka's better imo. And he's only 23 going on 24.

Karaoke29
31-10-2006, 00:15
Is he hell. He's all skill free kicks and pace. Kaka's better imo. And he's only 23 going on 24.

I prefer Xabi Alonso...;)

Karaoke29
31-10-2006, 00:19
I dislike the idea that one player is going to be some 'all important savior' to a team.
Certainly, this is a wisdom...;)
Big names are supposed to make big changes but at the end the team is a team and their connection and harmony are the things that lead to the difference and I think that Milan will find its form very soon.

Dragonfly
31-10-2006, 00:28
Is he hell. He's all skill free kicks and pace. Kaka's better imo. And he's only 23 going on 24.

I don't mean to have a go, it's just an observation, but this comment (and comments like it) make me smile. If he's 23 going on 24, are you implying he could go backwards in age? :happy: :tongue:

:offtopic:

Joel Rojo
31-10-2006, 07:03
I think that Dinho moving to Milan would be a really bad move, for both him and the club.

I think it's a smokescreen, for the following reasons:

1. Milan has Kaká already, and he and Ronaldinho have never worked well, to the best of my limited knowledge, when playing together at Brazil matches. Perhaps Ronaldinho could play a bit more forward than when at the Canarinha, but still I don't think it would work out really well.

2. You could drop Kaká too, but Kaká has been doing great at the club, and...


3. (...) there is no guarantee that Ronaldinho would ever adapt.

4. Given his price tag, and the previous point, the move is waaaay to risky.

5. Milan more likely needs a defense revamp and an all out striker. Ronaldinho hardly seems like the answer. And, fuck it, get rid of Dida, he's been too sloppy for too long now, and fucks up at critical moments.

Of course, it could turn out to be right, and with me looking stupid, but I really doubt it.

Sweey
31-10-2006, 07:58
I just keep thinking of who we could get for £70m: an example being Amelia, Chivu, Barzagli (won't happen) and Iaquinta for about £40m. That would still leave £30m, if required, to buy a world class attacking midfielder who isn't Ronaldinho.

Karaoke29
31-10-2006, 12:26
Joel Rojo is the first one to speak on topic after two complete disgraceful pages of attacking Italy and Serie A for no reason. What a shame!!!
Thanks Joel, Sweey, Jake Small and ScouseMike...

Stella Artois
31-10-2006, 12:32
You've no-one to blame but yourself. We have a thread for all things AC Milan related, so if you wanted a proper discussion, you should have put it into that thread.

Karaoke29
31-10-2006, 12:45
Firstly, I did but I think that sharing it with all the members available would be nice. More people, more discussion, more information and more opinions. That's all.

Stella Artois
31-10-2006, 12:49
Fair enough, but don't complain when it goes off-topic (as it has). You made the choice, so live with the consequences.

Joel
31-10-2006, 12:52
I just keep thinking of who we could get for £70m: an example being Amelia, Chivu, Barzagli (won't happen) and Iaquinta for about £40m. That would still leave £30m, if required, to buy a world class attacking midfielder who isn't Ronaldinho.

Leave Chivu where he is :realmad:

But your point is very valid, it would be foolish for Milan to splash that much cash on one person, when they need to strenghen other areas....they must think that they are those dirty, cheating, West London, Russian Bastards - Chelsea!!!

Usul
31-10-2006, 12:55
Ahmedios, Stella is right, you know. You are one thick headed man.
Well, you did call anyone who thinks the Italian league is the best league deluded. Perhaps now that I disagree with your particular comments in this thread, I will declare you deluded. I hope you can see why that is not an offensive thing to say; I'm sure you will simply understand that it is a fact that you are deluded.

Actually, I think that you will instead see that such comments interfere with our ability to reach understanding amid such disagreements...
As i clearly stated, my calling him, and those millions that he refers to, deluded, was done in a joking manner. Just as his saying that it was the best league, followed by a smiley, i understood to be a joke.

Jesting aside, i think that they are WRONG, the Serie A is not the best. Would that be more appealing to you?

Anyway, delusion is a false belief or opinion. Since when is calling someone deluded, when they clearly are, an insult or derrogatory in any way?

Wait, don't answer that, we wouldn't want to go further off-topic, as this is a hot issue we're discussing here...:rolleyes:

Karaoke29
31-10-2006, 13:02
Ahmedios, Stella is right, you know. You are one thick headed man.

Is this your only comment? Just this constructive sentence, I preceive now that you are embarresed and have nothing to say.

Karaoke29
31-10-2006, 13:08
Fair enough, but don't complain when it goes off-topic (as it has). You made the choice, so live with the consequences.

So, according to you, I should be careful not to make threads in the football forums or it would be off topic. This of course not because of me, and if you check the first page of the thread, you'll know who started this off topic thing. Even though, I am ready to face any consequences.

Barry
31-10-2006, 13:10
Leave Chivu where he is :realmad:

But your point is very valid, it would be foolish for Milan to splash that much cash on one person, when they need to strenghen other areas....they must think that they are those dirty, cheating, West London, Russian Bastards - Chelsea!!!

If only Roma left Chivu where he was :realmad:

Anyway, for that amount of cash you'd could buy at least 5 players - and with a bit of a footballing brain - those 5 players could be very good ones.

/Note defenders ;)

Stella Artois
31-10-2006, 13:13
So, according to you, I should be careful not to make threads in the football forums or it would be off topic. This of course not because of me, and if you check the first page of the thread, you'll know who started this off topic thing. Even though, I am ready to face any consequences.

No, you should be careful to ensure you actually post things in the correct section, i.e. an AC Milan topic in the AC Milan thread. Comprende?

If you're aware and prepared for the thread to deviate from the topic at hand, why are you moaning about it?

Sweey
31-10-2006, 13:14
We could move for Huntelaar :tongue:

Usul
31-10-2006, 13:17
Is this your only comment? Just this constructive sentence, I preceive now that you are embarresed and have nothing to say.
Yes, i am very embarrassed and i have nothing to say. :laugh:

The truth is that your perception is clearly distorted, and your argumentative skills way below par. Having a discussion with you is utterly boring and fruitless, as all you do is bring up irrelevant points and focus on words and phrases that you do not understand, yet succesfully translate into what you think they mean or seem to want to think what they mean.

The only one responsible for dragging this off-topic is you, yet you are bothered that i did not pursue the matter further. :rolleyes:

Barry
31-10-2006, 13:18
We could move for Huntelaar :tongue:
I changed my mind - go for Ronaldinho :tongue:

nikos24
31-10-2006, 13:21
70m on Dinho is ridiculous. Especially for a club like Milan, they don't need him, Kaka is their answer. If they plan on getting someone, get a good young defender. Anyway, I do not believe that article on the first page. If it's true, then it's the consequence from Milan after their loss to Inter. They think they've lost it all, that theý aren't good enough. That's wrong, Milan should bounce back with the team they have now, and not go looking for another player. AC can still mount a challenge, just improve on their gameplay.

But I was serious on getting a defender of a young age.

Muad, you need to share some of your argumentative skills with me, you sound just like a lawyer. Tell me! :ninja:

Billy Minof
31-10-2006, 13:22
If only Roma left Chivu where he was :realmad:


He is going to Madrid one way or another Damn it...:blush:

@Maud/Stella and Ahmedios, ye are fighting for the sake of fighting at this stage, it started in some other thread, now it has moved to the Ronaldinho thread and now the Ronaldinho thread is transforming into a Milan thread which ye seem to be fighting over aswell....

Ah sure. :cool:

Stella Artois
31-10-2006, 13:24
We're having to "fight" because he is being a retard. Once he stops, I stop.

Karaoke29
31-10-2006, 13:25
Yes, i am very embarrassed and i have nothing to say. :laugh:

The truth is that your perception is clearly distorted, and your argumentative skills way below par. Having a discussion with you is utterly boring and fruitless, as all you do is bring up irrelevant points and focus on words and phrases that you do not understand, yet succesfully translate into what you think they mean or seem to want to think what they mean.

The only one responsible for dragging this off-topic is you, yet you are bothered that i did not pursue the matter further. :rolleyes:

First of all, thanks for your notice. Read the thread from the start and you'll know who started to be off topic. But,trust me, I am very sorry to see people like you in PESgaming. People like you ruin the world of football.

Karaoke29
31-10-2006, 13:27
We're having to "fight" because he is being a retard. Once he stops, I stop.

Count how many times you have insulted me with no response from me similar to yours. You are really a civilised person !!!!!!

Usul
31-10-2006, 13:45
First of all, thanks for your notice. Read the thread from the start and you'll know who started to be off topic. But,trust me, I am very sorry to see people like you in PESgaming. People like you ruin the world of football.
:laugh:

Someone please give me a pistol, that i may end my life before i impact the world of football any further.

Karaoke29
31-10-2006, 13:49
:laugh:

Someone please give me a pistol, that i may end my life before i impact the world of football any further.

:lol: Quite hilarious guy, finally I've discovered you a talent, you clown...

Usul
31-10-2006, 14:02
:lol: Quite hilarious guy, finally I've discovered you a talent, you clown...
Clown? This coming from someone that misinterprets and takes offense at the slightest misconception.

Well, this has moved into Milan territory now, and i'm not about to dignify your silly posts in here, or anywhere else, actually.

Sweey
31-10-2006, 15:05
If we can get back to talking about present matters and put that insolence of the Ronaldinho thread which has now been merged into this one to one side:

Okay, so after our derby defeat we're hosting Anderlecht on Wednesday. The reaction in the second half once Ancelotti shook the team up was good and showed that 4-3-2-1 headed by Inzaghi is suicide. Of our current playing staff, only Gilardino can play at the front of such a formation and even then, the support from Seedorf and Kaka wasn't good enough. When Shevchenko used to play at the front of it, Kaka and Rui Costa made a point of alternating as his strike partner and it worked well.

We have to take the second half performance (bar the Ibrahimovic goal) and the reaction to conceding and use it to fight in our next few games. The title isn't an objective as far as I'm concerned as we're now too far behind but we can aim for a top three place and getting as far as possible in the CL.

Everything that has happened makes the January transfer window that much more important. Vincenzo Iaquinta appears to be the main target but Udinese are unlikely to sell and I hope we don't go for Francesco Tavano. Empoli claim that three big clubs in Italy want him and I would guess they are Inter, Roma (both of whom wanted him in the summer) and either us or Fiorentina. Despite that, I think he'd be best suited to Palermo. Doubtful whether they could fit him in around Amauri, Simplicio and Bresciano though.

Karaoke29
31-10-2006, 15:16
Clown? This coming from someone that misinterprets and takes offense at the slightest misconception

You are talking about yourself lad. You know, I never comment on one of your posts, but your first ever comment on one of my posts was disgraceful and ridiculous just for you to have a bloody fun...
Check the members war section and you'll see your bad history.

KainLegacy
31-10-2006, 15:26
DONT RUIN THIS THREAD!!!
Muad'Dib you are a smart guy so stop this,its pointless.
Sweey you are an admin now so please calm them atleast.
About Ronnaldinho,nope he doesnt deserve 70M especially in Seria A,his style just doesnt fit.Also he is AMF not CF so I dont know what Ancelotti is thinking...
Why Chivu???????????

Stella Artois
31-10-2006, 15:27
Ahmedios is being the prat here, not Muad.

Karaoke29
31-10-2006, 15:35
Ahmedios is being the prat here, not Muad.

I won't comment on your vulgar posts anymore becaues of two reasons:
1)This is a Milan territory, so it is very laughable to be ruined by people like you.
2)It is not my style to comment on clueless posts like yours.
Finished and do not try to post this shit again, UNDERSTOOD?

Sweey
31-10-2006, 15:44
This thread is for Milan discussion only. Posts relating to arguing will be deleted (excluding the ones from the merged Ronaldinho thread).

Kain, the Ronaldinho thread has been merged into here so most comments were from that thread and not this one.

Why Chivu???????????

He's good and can play both at left-back (Maldini, Serginho, Jankulovski is poor competition overall) and in central defence.

Meanwhile, rumours are intensifying that Alessandro Nesta will return to Lazio in the summer.

Karaoke29
31-10-2006, 15:56
Meanwhile, rumours are intensifying that Alessandro Nesta will return to Lazio in the summer.

I think not in the next summer, may be after 2 or 3 seasons...

castrometal
31-10-2006, 23:17
Ronaldinho to milan for 70euros?? i thought inter was the team that made ridicoulous signings ha.
this may only happen after Real madrid tries to sign him first. Milan should sign David Suazo i think he would do great there because he would have other great players along that can assist him for scoring chances unlike in Cagliari he doesnt have that support and he still scores.

KainLegacy
01-11-2006, 11:47
Without Nesta in the centre are Kaladze and...who?!Maldini and Costacurta arent counted so who else suit as a CB?
Lazio really piss me off lately with their form(watched Catania-Lazio 3-1 and Lazio-Reggina 0-0 on TV),does Nesta really wants such move?He is not unreplacable as he is uncosistent,but we are really lacking in defence at the moment as well as attack...

dimitrivdr
01-11-2006, 14:04
Phew, this thread is pretty heated! That time of the month, eh?

As for Milan v Anderlecht, I am all set. I have my hoard of booze, pills and a loaded pistol in case the first two don't manage to drown out the misery... :unsure:

Seriously, if Anderlecht beat Milan tonight I will personally give birth to the winning goal scorer's next baby... with a big smile on my face. :happy:

As for Ronaldinho going to Milan... Barcelona wouldn't allow their talisman to leave unless they've lost the plot, certainly not to Real and I don't seriously think that Milan need a player of his type.

They need:
a) defenders to replace Maldini, Stam, Costacurta, Cafu and eventually Nesta (he's already in his 30s - I am soooo old :no: )
b) a proven goalscorer to replace Sheva (Toni, Suazo, Fred and Klose would be amongst my preferences).
c) A right winger... the next right fullback is unlikely to be as energetic as Cafu was at his prime ... haven't really thought of replacements as my personal favourites Diana and Joaquin have recently moved clubs.

Essentially: half a new first team squad... I can see a few barren years ahead for the Rossoneri, they've allowed their squad to slowly degenerate to a veterans team and have some serious rebuilding ahead. :(

Sweey
01-11-2006, 16:03
We can't get a pure winger as we don't use wingers. The only person playing down the right flank at the moment is Cafu and the repalcement will need to be a wing-back. Jankulovski, Pancaro, Maldini and Serginho have all done the job well down the left over the last three years.

Joel
01-11-2006, 16:10
What about the new guy, Bonera?

Or is he more of a right back, than a wing back?

dimitrivdr
01-11-2006, 20:11
I've already come to the conclusion that booze isn't going to be enough. Halfway through the first half and we're 2-0 down. Milan are barely breaking a sweat. A glorified friendly. I wish we were playing 2 up front with Frutos and without bloody Hassan wasting space in midfield...

Sweey
01-11-2006, 21:17
3-1 at the moment, a Kaka hat-trick :ohmy:

Joel, Bonera can play at right-back (or left-back at a stretch) but he's not really made for going forward as his strongest position is central defence - a bit like Simic (although he can't play at left-back at all).

EDIT: 4-1; Gilardino's first European goal for us!!!!!! :happy: (About time too! :ninja:)

Transfer rumours: Iaquinta, Ronaldo, Cassano, Pizarro linked with January moves and we are keeping tabs on Bordeaux's Julien Faubert. Signing Claudio Pizarro, even on a free, would be a mistake.

Karaoke29
02-11-2006, 00:49
Transfer rumours: Iaquinta, Ronaldo, Cassano, Pizarro linked with January moves and we are keeping tabs on Bordeaux's Julien Faubert. Signing Claudio Pizarro, even on a free, would be a mistake.

I think so. Pizarro has nothing to give to Milan, besides he is not the style of player that Milan do need to have a big change in the attacking options and in the center midfield role.

Joel
02-11-2006, 01:00
Ahmedios, I think you are referring to David Pizarro of Roma. Claudio Pizarro is the Bayern Munich striker.

Karaoke29
02-11-2006, 01:19
Oh yeah, you are completely right, it was just an usual slip of mine :D.
Sorry.....;)

Edit: So, I have to correct it now, I do not think that Claudio Pizzaro is a good player. He is mobile, skilled and also he scores lots of goals. What do you think?

Joel
02-11-2006, 01:28
I don't think that he is the answer to Milan's striker 'problems'. They need someone that would pick up the ball from deep, someone that is not afraid to go out wide to offer other forms of attack. Pizarro does not strike me to be that type of player.

Karaoke29
02-11-2006, 14:06
At least, he is better than Oliviera, who still haven't found form, and Inzaghi, who has the same playing style as Gilardino.

Sweey
02-11-2006, 16:16
I think you're being too harsh on Oliveira - he's a very good player and don't forget his sister has been kidnapped. He just needs time to settle and not to be used as a lone striker because that isn't how to use him.

Karaoke29
02-11-2006, 16:32
To be honest, I didn't watch him playing with Real Betis a lot. But I'vewatched nearly all Milan games this season and he hasn't impressed me. Although, I'm waiting to see him when he finds form. Then I think I can have a full idea about him.

yaohan
03-11-2006, 02:10
sorry rough school days haven't been on for a while...

KAKA SCORES A HAT-TRICK, IYF SWEEY LOL

too bad Kaka doesn't score 1 goal every game, I'd rather him do that instead. Anyways, I think Kaka has found his form again, but that 4-1 is just flukey, we still have major offense problem dont we?

The answer however, is NOT ronaldinho. I'd rather spend 70m for Henry, who is not for sale, but u know, arsenal can't resist money.

JoeyM
03-11-2006, 02:44
The answer however, is NOT ronaldinho. I'd rather spend 70m for Henry, who is not for sale, but u know, arsenal can't resist money.

Can't resist money? Despite the fact that Chelsea made a larger bid for Henry a few years ago, which was also rejected?:rolleyes:

Henry would be a waste for Milan anyway, he's good for Arsenal because the entire team is built around him and he's treated as a god by the other players. I can't imagine him doing to well for a team where he'd be treated like just another player. He's too moody tbh.

yaohan
03-11-2006, 05:11
i guess thats kind of true, considering how bad hes done for Team France most of the time.

yaohan
03-11-2006, 05:17
All the signings we are linked to are horrible, but IMO, we can give fatty ronaldo another try, because hes proven to be able to score consistently despite his moodiness, and he can dribble. He is the closest thing i can think of to shevchenko other than henry. However, given his age, I'd only sign him if he is not so expensive. Anything over 20m is no good. Iaquita seems okay.

KainLegacy
03-11-2006, 14:25
Kaka hat trick is not that impresive as Gila scoring a goal in CL!!!Dont you guys think?
Henry will never leave Arsenal,even if he do nothing at the moment they will never get him out of the first team and he is happy with the way it is.
Casano made a scandal so they are putting him on the transfer list?
No one,and I mean NO ONE,who played for Real,even once,cannot play football again.If he was in Inter first then it becomes inevitable for him to lose all his skills,get off Ronaldo from that list.

Grahf
04-11-2006, 14:38
wow im sure you win the world player of the year by losing all your skill?

lol what is wrong with you people sometimes.....

Karaoke29
05-11-2006, 00:04
Milan may be 14 points adrift of the leaders, but Carlo Ancelotti insists they can still challenge for the Scudetto.

“Last season we were 14 points off the top spot, just as we are now, yet we managed to battle until the final game for that title. You never can tell in football.”

Juventus seemed to be running away with the Serie A Championship last term only to suffer a poor run that allowed their rivals to catch them

The crisis of their forwards in recent weeks has been uppermost in Milan’s thoughts, especially with unsettled Real Madrid men Ronaldo and Antonio Cassano calling for a return to Italy.

“All players are useful and none are indispensable. On form, Ronaldo is an extraordinary player, as certain qualities do not disappear, they only get clouded over. However, if I did need a striker for the January transfer window – and I do not – then I’d ask for one who could play in all competitions.”

Both players are Cup-tied for the Champions League this season, even if they’ve had only 46 minutes each on the pitch.

To me, I do think that Milan are still capable of winning the Scudetto in condition that they cut their points bleeding directly from the next match. The season is still in the beginning.

Sweey
05-11-2006, 00:30
The last time this stupid Scudetto talk happened, we'd just won our first three Serie A games - then look what happened. I wish all of them, including Ancelotti, would shut up about the Scudetto and concentrate on getting up the bloody table.

yaohan
05-11-2006, 00:38
The last time this stupid Scudetto talk happened, we'd just won our first three Serie A games - then look what happened. I wish all of them, including Ancelotti, would shut up about the Scudetto and concentrate on getting up the bloody table.

agreed

KainLegacy
05-11-2006, 00:58
It would be nice to made a 30 games unbeaten run(only wins) each with no less than 2 goals a match,but that cannot happen even in my dreams so Seria A is a past now,the CL and Coppa Italia should be our target.

yaohan
05-11-2006, 05:13
if our offense can continue producing, we could get pretty far in champions league, although winning it would be EXTREMELY hard. If we however, want to participate in next year's champions league, we better start performing in serie A too.

Sweey
05-11-2006, 15:27
"We can win the Scudetto" - okay Ancelotti, so care to tell me why we're 1-0 down at Atalanta then?

Karaoke29
05-11-2006, 15:40
What!!!!!! I haven't watched the match yet, I'm watching Palermo's match and The Arsenal one as well.......

Edit: For God sake, what is happening to Milan? I've just checked the result and its 2-0. :shocking:

Sweey
05-11-2006, 15:53
Here we go again. Full-time: Atalanta 2 AC Milan 0.

I have nothing new to say.

The last time this stupid Scudetto talk happened, we'd just won our first three Serie A games - then look what happened. I wish all of them, including Ancelotti, would shut up about the Scudetto and concentrate on getting up the bloody table.

Karaoke29
05-11-2006, 15:58
I think I have to stop arguing about that title thing. I think I am wrong...:(

Sweey
05-11-2006, 16:02
Berlusconi, Galliani and Ancelotti - one of them must be responsible for the lack of investment and as Berlusconi wasn't directly involved until the summer, it is one of the other two.

The players don't have enough faith in Ancelotti and the squad is weak. I don't think any of us are really surprised as it has been coming rather blatantly for the last two years. This reminds me of the Oscar Washington Tabarez days. The title will be contested between Inter, Palermo and Roma. Fourth place? We can get it but I don't think we're strong enough.

Karaoke29
05-11-2006, 16:18
I think you are very frustrated more than being pessimistic. And you have excuses for that frustration.

Regarding the faith in Ancelotti, I don't have faith in him as well. I think that he hasn't made anything special to Milan since the champions league final aganist us. Despite not being one of his fans due to his bad two seasons with Juve, he continued to gain my respect as Milan's coach. But now, I do not know what is happening really !!!!!

KainLegacy
05-11-2006, 16:25
No,no,no 4-th place,neither 5-th or 6-th,this year will be horrible,how come we lost agian?Other clubs change the coach when the results are like that so is it time someone to realise it already?We played away and a draw would be more comfortable,but the players stop playing after a goal is conceaded.
Winning the CL,there is no other choice,atleast Kaka is showing good there(for a one-man-army,no teamwork),we need to get a pathetic club like Real Madrid though for the next round and when we beat them to increase the morale.No one said it is easy...

Sweey
05-11-2006, 16:37
If we got Real - assuming we go through - Capello would pick us off. Close down Kaka and we're finished.

Billy Minof
05-11-2006, 16:54
If we got Real - assuming we go through - Capello would pick us off. Close down Kaka and we're finished.

Yes, but if we did get you, Kaka would have the game of his life IMO and could end up knocking us out single handedly.

Sweey
05-11-2006, 19:06
Official website:

Controversial events in the first ten games:

Milan-Lazio: Inzaghi’s goal disallowed at 0-0.

Livorno-Milan: Ambrosini fouled in the area at 0-0, but penalty awarded.

Milan-Siena: Rinaudo commits a foul in the first half but no penalty awarded, then Pirlo’s goal is disallowed in the second half.

Sampdoria-Milan: Inzaghi is fouled in the area by Castellazzi at 0-0, but no penalty.

Milan-Palermo: Gilardino’s goal disallowed at 2-0 down.

Chievo-Milan: foul committed on Gilardino in the area at 0-0.

Atalanta-Milan: Bonera is felled by Tissone in the area, foul is not given. Gourcuff falls in the area after a clash with Donati, Pieri first calls the foul but then decides to call a foul against Milan, and the ball is already in the back of the net.

Ancelotti:

It was an ugly day for Milan, we feel ill-treated once again. After this summer's penalisation, it's continuing and now enough is enough. Pieri didn't see the penalty on Bonera, but he was right there close by. The episode concerning Gourcuff was very confusing when the ball flew into the net. It is not a good situation at the moment, we have to work harder at paying attention to these problems which we can resolve, however, the others have to ensure that games are refereed in a correct way.

There have been too many negative things over these last ten days. Another penalty wasn't given which could have changed the game at 0-0. I believe in this system, we have to have faith and hope. We have to get up the table. Is the problem to do with the head or legs? The referees.

Karaoke29
05-11-2006, 19:09
And so,....

This happens everytime to any team.

Sweey
05-11-2006, 19:10
And so,....

This happens everytime to any team.

Happens to everyone except Juventus ;)

There is a feeling that, as we are in Serie A and still able to "challenge" Inter, we're being punished for it. That being said, I knew straight after the defeat that these would be talked about - though I didn't know about the one from today's game.

Karaoke29
05-11-2006, 19:15
Happens to everyone except Juventus ;)

Sweey, please, stop throwing accusations on Juve. I admit that Juve is guilty but everything is finished and we've got punished enough.

There is a feeling that, as we are in Serie A and still able to "challenge" Inter, we're being punished for it. That being said, I knew straight after the defeat that these would be talked about - though I didn't know about the one from today's game.

What do you exactly mean? Being punished by whom? i.e. "Moratti...The Idiot"

Rambo
05-11-2006, 19:16
I don't want to make things worse but Ventola scored a great goal

Sweey
05-11-2006, 19:16
What do you exactly mean? Being punished by whom? i.e. "Moratti...The Idiot"

That's what people are suggesting but true or not, it would be too easy to hide behind that excuse and blame it for everything.

I don't want to make things worse but Ventola scored a great goal

He probably loved it too as he's a former Inter man :(

Karaoke29
05-11-2006, 19:19
That's what people are suggesting but true or not, it would be too easy to hide behind that excuse and blame it for everything.

What do you think yourself?

Sweey
05-11-2006, 19:22
I think it is partly the referees and partly ourselves. Yes, some people want to "damage" us because of Berlusconi and his politics - people don't like him - others because of the scandal business and the fact we didn't get relegated and overall our performances have generally been good but results haven't...but then the squad is stale, our play can be horrendously predictable and perhaps we should be good enough to overcome these sorts of things anyway.

Karaoke29
05-11-2006, 19:34
I think it is partly the referees and partly ourselves. Yes, some people want to "damage" us because of Berlusconi and his politics - people don't like him - others because of the scandal business and the fact we didn't get relegated and overall our performances have generally been good but results haven't...but then the squad is stale, our play can be horrendously predictable and perhaps we should be good enough to overcome these sorts of things anyway.
I can't confirm anything about Berlusconi and his politics. But who are these people, may be another politicians or Moratti himself. However, the thing that Milan can blame themselves for is their performance. I know that they've partly performed well this season, but they should score. I watched the Derby and I thought that Milan started to find form since they were the better side. Anyhow, I think I have to watch today's match to judge fairly.

By the way, This was Ancelotti's post-match comment:
Carlo Ancelotti: “Coincidence is when something happens once or twice, but from the start of the season we’ve had too many refereeing errors go against us. I really hope it doesn’t repeat itself. What happens to the Rossoneri directors outside the field of play is obvious to everyone. I don’t know if they’ve got it in for us, but we were the only club not to receive a discount on the Calciopoli penalties.”

Sweey
06-11-2006, 10:14
AC Milan transfers chief Ariedo Braida is this week in Brazil checking on potential transfer targets.

Braida will also spend time in Argentina as he adds to dossiers on a host of top, young South American talent.

High on Braida's list of targets is Gremio pair Lucas Pezzini Leiva and Evaldo Silva Santos.

Midfielder Leiva, 19, is expected to be sold by Gremio in January and is a confirmed target for Atletico Madrid. Defender Evaldo, meanwhile, comes off contract at the end of this season.

Another player in Milan's sights is Sao Paulo youngster Fabao.

At least we're starting to look at youngsters.

Rambo
06-11-2006, 17:47
Hmmm trying to find another Kaka

Sweey
06-11-2006, 18:57
Yep, and the club are taking it rather seriously too as they've all been talking about it in the last week.

Sweey
07-11-2006, 21:30
Gattuso's knee injury - picked up in the Atalanta game where we had to play the last fifteen or so minutes with ten men as a result - will keep him out of action until January. Good news for Brocchi and Ambrosini...

Billy Minof
07-11-2006, 21:50
Milan are also hot on heals of Gatefe CB Alexes, the 21 year old who played for Malaga in recent years but left after there relegation has signed with Gatefe this season and is contracted till 2008 but Milan are now trying to sign in January, Milan have tracked the youth since he was 16 but have failed so far to lure him to the Capital of Italy.

Joel
07-11-2006, 22:36
Milan are also hot on heals of Gatefe CB Alexes, the 21 year old who played for Malaga in recent years but left after there relegation has signed with Gatefe this season and is contracted till 2008 but Milan are now trying to sign in January, Milan have tracked the youth since he was 16 but have failed so far to lure him to the Capital of Italy.

Why would Milan want to lure him to Roma or Lazio.....;)

Sweey
07-11-2006, 22:49
:laugh: Milan is certainly the footballing capital of Italy ;)

KainLegacy
08-11-2006, 01:02
OMG,strange things are happening really:
Emerson wants to join us next season,please no!
Seedorf want to play for Holland in 2008...nevermind
Milan will give 10M for a brazilian named Kerlon(or Cerlon,not sure)
Atalanta fans broke the car of Galliani after the match...pathetic
Gattuso is out for 2 monts as Sweey noted,poor Pirlo:tongue:...

Whats your comments on all this?

Karaoke29
08-11-2006, 03:36
OMG,strange things are happening really:
Emerson wants to join us next season,please no!
I explained my opinion about this in post no. (8183)...http://www.pesgaming.com/showthread.php?t=13047&page=410.

Gattuso is out for 2 monts as Sweey noted,poor Pirlo:tongue:...
I am very sorry for what happened to Gattuso "The DM Veteran". I wish him speedy recovery.

Without a doubt, Pirlo will suffer, as he'll miss his fighting machine partner. I think Pirlo's performance would be affected, but Pirlo would keep doing his role in Milan midfield without a change, simply because Ancelotti depends on him for making a link between the back line and the front line (mainly Kaka), therefore, I think Pirlo is not the only one that would be affected but the whole team, unless Ambrosini is in a good form.

Sweey
08-11-2006, 07:42
Kerlon will be off to Inter by the looks of things - and let him go. I think he's one of the ones who will flop after being built up so much at a young age.

Original?
08-11-2006, 09:50
:laugh: Milan is certainly the footballing capital of Italy ;)

Only 'til the end of the season! ;)

Sweey
08-11-2006, 20:42
Half-time in our Coppa Italia Third Round First Leg match: AC Milan 0 Brescia 2 - even Serie B sides are getting in on the act.

Our starting line-up:

Kalac; Cafu, Bonera, Costacurta, Favalli; Lunati, Brocchi, Gourcuff; Seedorf; Ricardo Oliveira, Borriello.

Whilst not the world's strongest side, they are definitely strong enough to win at home to Brescia.

In other news, we are being linked with moves for Gonzalo Higuain, Rodrigo Palacio and Ciro Barusso (plays for Rimini and is wanted by Inter and Roma).

Ghost
08-11-2006, 21:24
I think that Barusso is also wanted by Fiorentina.

Sweey
08-11-2006, 21:29
We've won 4-2 :ohmy: (Simic 60, Brocchi 67, Inzaghi 78, Borriello 86; Serafini 34, Alfageme 37)

GhOsT, you mean Barusso ;) and you're right about Fiorentina.

Ghost
08-11-2006, 21:43
It says Barusso :ninja: Is he any good?

Sweey
08-11-2006, 21:45
He's meant to have bags of potential, a Ghanian despite his name and only 18 years old. I'm guessing they believe he'll turn into a Muntari or Essien with time.

greenegg
08-11-2006, 21:45
Hey Milan fans, vote greenegg in the member wars. :w00t

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/kingegg/campateam005.jpg

Sweey
08-11-2006, 21:47
That's last season's shirt :realmad:

greenegg
08-11-2006, 21:49
That's last season's shirt :realmad:

Well Sweey you won't mind as you have conspired against me all Wars. :ninja:

Sweey
08-11-2006, 21:50
Just unlucky you've come up against Original? and Jonny2J in two of the three rounds. In the other, pb got my vote for being Italian otherwise it would've gone to you. Not much help, I know.

greenegg
08-11-2006, 21:55
Haha no sweat Sweey, I let you off but only just. Be sure to vote for me in the final :ninja:

KainLegacy
08-11-2006, 21:59
Hahhahaha,Greenegg youve won me on that,but I gave my vote already...sorry.
Our win today shows we have problem in defence as in Seria B there are rarely 2 goals in a match and Brescia scored 2 on us!!!
We are targeting many youngsters already and thats good to hear,nice future is coming.
Kerlon is pointed as better than Messi from his agent:tongue: I am not sure this boy worths a whole 10M,but I dont think a player with his style can even play in Seria A so Inter - take it for you,you Real Amateurs clone team for Italy!!!

greenegg
08-11-2006, 22:01
Kain you aint voted in my heat buddy. Here you go. greenegg. :w00t

http://www.pesgaming.com/showthread.php?t=44624

Joel
08-11-2006, 23:21
Hey Milan fans, vote greenegg in the member wars. :w00t

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/kingegg/campateam005.jpg

Oooh....Controversial.....

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/kingegg/campateam001.jpg

:ninja:

greenegg
08-11-2006, 23:22
Joel you bastard :laugh:

Edit: Good photshop skills mate

Joel
08-11-2006, 23:30
:laugh:

Sorry greenegg, just having a bit of fun ;)

Viperized
09-11-2006, 00:15
Greenegg looks 32.

Sully
09-11-2006, 00:23
Greenegg you whore. Is there a top european vlub shirt people have not seen you modeling tonight?

Sweey
09-11-2006, 07:34
Greenegg, get your hands on a Red Star Belgrade or Boavista shirt and we'll talk.

Karaoke29
10-11-2006, 15:15
Stories in Spain on Friday are suggesting that boss Frank Rijkaard could leave Barcelona for Milan in June.

The AS newspaper suggests that the Blaugrana Coach is ready to quit the Nou Camp given his strained relationship with sporting director Txiki Beguiristain and the constant presence of Johan Cruyff.

The sports daily goes on to suggest that Rijkaard, who played alongside current boss Carlo Ancelotti during their Milan days, may also bring Ronaldinho with him to the San Siro.

However, Milan Vice-President Adriano Galliani last night insisted that Ancelotti would remain and virtually ruled out signing the Brazilian.

Meanwhile, CSKA Moscow midfielder Dudu is allegedly interested in a move to Milan and hopes to complete his dream switch next summer.

The 23-year-old could be an interesting addition to the squad, although it seems likely that CSKA will ask for a significant amount of money before selling.

Source: http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/nov10h.html

As a Milan fan, what do you prefer? Ancelotti, he still has a lot to introduce to Milan OR Rijkaard for a new experience...

Rambo
10-11-2006, 17:09
Saw the goals from Milan's cup match, Brocchi scored a great goal and Kalac sucked, he made a big mistake. You guys need to get rid of him

KainLegacy
10-11-2006, 18:07
Kalac have his ups and downs,but is good for me.Rijkard-not sure,maybe not,but neiter Ancelotti.I still belive Maldini will take his place next season right after he retire...

Karaoke29
10-11-2006, 18:13
Kalac have his ups and downs,but is good for me.Rijkard-not sure,maybe not,but neiter Ancelotti.I still belive Maldini will take his place next season right after he retire...

I doubt....

Sweey
10-11-2006, 20:00
Saw the goals from Milan's cup match, Brocchi scored a great goal and Kalac sucked, he made a big mistake. You guys need to get rid of him

Kalac will be dumped at the end of the season.

I'd like to see Rijkaard come in but it is too easy to assume he'll do for us what he's done for Barcelona - that won't necessarily be the case.

I've heard a lot of things over the last few days:

-Rumours of Lippi taking over as coach - which also means we couldn't sign Massimo Oddo as his agent is Lippi's son.

-Ricardo Oliveira could be loaned to Sao Paulo.

-Dida, Zeljko Kalac, Paolo Maldini, Alessandro Costacurta, Cafu and Serginho are all to leave the club this summer.

-Marco Amelia will be one of two goalkeepers to be signed in the summer along with two strikers - one being Vincenzo Iaquinta - and some defenders.

yaohan
12-11-2006, 00:31
once again, i'd like to remind everyone that the Ronaldo deal is on again. Yes, Sweey, I know you are very very angry, but look on the bright side, Ronaldo is much more proven than Oliveira.

Di Natali wud probably be a good choice too though, he seems to be able to assist Gilardino, providing that link between Kaka and Gilardino.

Sweey
12-11-2006, 01:15
once again, i'd like to remind everyone that the Ronaldo deal is on again. Yes, Sweey, I know you are very very angry, but look on the bright side, Ronaldo is much more proven than Oliveira.

Ronaldo spends all his time injured; Oliveira is a good player and can do well for us if we give him a bit of time....something we can't afford but it isn't as bad as buying Ronaldo and watching him spend four months out injured.

KainLegacy
12-11-2006, 01:19
Oliveira will stay.
And Galliani said Ancelotti will stay and for the 2007/2008 season(thats bad news?!)
For today match,we tottaly didnt deserve to lose,twice the post was hitted,many combinations,total control of the game in the first half,but all gone wrong.Roma won after all this 20 years of suffering :tongue: .Ah,Seria A is not for us this time.
I am reading really good news about our transfer situation lately,we are scouting around 10 players(youngster mostly,which is good) and Galliani said the fans deserve a present and he will buy a big name in January(he pointed its not Ronaldinho),I hope so for a bright future.

yaohan
12-11-2006, 02:16
Ronaldo spends all his time injured; Oliveira is a good player and can do well for us if we give him a bit of time....something we can't afford but it isn't as bad as buying Ronaldo and watching him spend four months out injured.


I hope oliveira get back in form more, I've heard SO MANY rumor saying how he is going back to sao paolo.

Sweey
12-11-2006, 12:46
I'm hearing those ones too. It is so that he is closer to the situation with his kidnapped sister.

As for the "fans deserve a big signing" we always deserved one. Surely January isn't the best time to make such a signing as the players we'd be after are all unavailable?

I also don't believe Ancelotti will stay beyond this season, Galliani is simply trying to support him in public to try and make the most of this season before they agree to part ways. To be honest, both last week and this week I've expected to find out that Ancelotti resigned or was sacked overnight and I've never expected it previously in his time with us.

yaohan
13-11-2006, 11:22
I hear about Lippi coming to take over

Sweey
13-11-2006, 14:23
Roma captain Francesco Totti is being linked with a sensational move to AC Milan in January.

Less than 24 hours after putting Milan to the sword, Totti was reportedly spotted visiting Milanello yesterday morning.

Last night, Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani again spoke of rewarding the fans with a big January signing: "The fans kept supporting the team, even when it was two goals down.

"It cannot be Ronaldinho, but for sure our tifosi deserve a great reward. If we can give the tifosi a big present, we will do it."

Can't see it happening but it would definitely improve the squad and our attacking play.

Billy Minof
13-11-2006, 15:12
I'm hearing those ones too. It is so that he is closer to the situation with his kidnapped sister.

As for the "fans deserve a big signing" we always deserved one. Surely January isn't the best time to make such a signing as the players we'd be after are all unavailable?

I also don't believe Ancelotti will stay beyond this season, Galliani is simply trying to support him in public to try and make the most of this season before they agree to part ways. To be honest, both last week and this week I've expected to find out that Ancelotti resigned or was sacked overnight and I've never expected it previously in his time with us.

It is Ronaldo and Cassano. :ninja:

Karaoke29
13-11-2006, 15:15
Totti can't leave Roma by any mean. Simply, because he is God in Roma. What is more, his team is in an excellent form now in both Italy and Europe. Also, he can't bet on the loyalty of Roma fans. I mean he doesn't know if he leaves, would they still consider him their forever legend or not?

Anyhow, Totti is a great player in any team and a huge addition to any squad.

Sweey
14-11-2006, 11:15
Things continue to get worse:

AC Milan teammates Daniele Bonera and Yoann Gourcuff have fallen out.

Corriere dello Sport says the pair have physically clashed as the tension regarding their recent form slump spilled over.

The two are still not seeing eye-to-eye and it's reported Gourcuff is already considering his future at Milan and pondering a return home to France.

That being the case, Bonera can fuck off back to Parma as he's never going to be world class and that's fairly obvious. Gourcuff will be a far more important and talented player.

Karaoke29
14-11-2006, 13:55
On contrary, Bonera was a good player in Parma and he hasn't taken his full chance in Milan yet. I know he is not as good as Oddo (A transfer target of Milan) but he may be find form if he plays regularly.

Sweey
14-11-2006, 14:07
Bonera can't play well at right-back, he's like Simic in that he's not good at getting forward. He's a central defender but he lacks concentration which was my concern when we signed him. There is a good reason he isn't considered as good as Marco Materazzi for the national side. Andrea Barzagli is definitely a better central defender.

Karaoke29
14-11-2006, 14:18
But I don't know why I think that Barzagli lacks aggression and balance, which are essential abilities required in a central defender.

KainLegacy
14-11-2006, 23:26
The problems will wave away,Milan is a player friendly club and Bonera ruin our reputation,I dont like him personaly,he is very agressive,which isnt always good as it is the case.Gourcuff,the next Zidane?If he is then this will be the stupidest mistake to let him leave.Parma is a bad preforming club for Seria A so I expect them to drop this season.

yaohan
15-11-2006, 00:46
We need a MAJOR TEAM CHANGE after this many years, you know, one of those things that Inter has every year.

Sweey
15-11-2006, 08:17
We need a MAJOR TEAM CHANGE after this many years, you know, one of those things that Inter has every year.

:laugh:

Sweey
15-11-2006, 11:06
We're being linked with a move for Belgrano (Argentine club) goalkeeper Marcelo Montoya and Sao Paulo's right wing-back Ilsinho who has met Ariedo Braida but didn't know who he was at the time and didn't speak directly with him when introduced by his agent as a friend.

Billy Minof
15-11-2006, 11:56
We're being linked with a move for Belgrano (Argentine club) goalkeeper Marcelo Montoya and Sao Paulo's right wing-back Ilsinho who has met Ariedo Braida but didn't know who he was at the time and didn't speak directly with him when introduced by his agent as a friend.

I have read this this morning abotu Ilsinho, looks as if your trip to South America wasnt a waste of time after all. ;)

Sweey
15-11-2006, 12:33
I have read this this morning abotu Ilsinho, looks as if your trip to South America wasnt a waste of time after all. ;)

You might be surprised about just how useful it was ;)

Sweey
19-11-2006, 18:21
After another predictable failure to win - and I feel for Ricardo Oliveira who hit the woodwork twice more at Empoli - we've got a European game up soon. What a perfect opportunity to fuck up our Champions League campaign with two defeats and elimination. We're more than capable of it.

As for Oliveira, I wish the fans getting on his back would leave him alone. So he needs time to settle - at least he's playing for us unlike Shevchenko who didn't want to any longer. We were all lied to about why Shevchenko left and it was obvious at the time, otherwise he would simply come out with the "I still need to learn English for my family life" line when linked with a move back to us and the reports would end.

Nice to see that our defence yesterday - with a combined age of 143 - actually did well against Empoli's attack and allowed them very little room to work in.

STATISTIC: We've hit the woodwork 10 times in 12 games :huh:

ferdinand93
19-11-2006, 19:11
STATISTIC: We've hit the woodwork 10 times in 12 games :huh:
It's about time the ball goes in off the woodwork. When will we start scoring?:(

Karaoke29
19-11-2006, 19:37
It's about time the ball goes in off the woodwork. When will we start scoring?:(
Don't worry, maybe within 6 to 8 weeks. :tongue:

yaohan
21-11-2006, 00:38
yeah, like this, we wont be in european championsleague next year.

Karaoke29
21-11-2006, 01:42
I don't think so, unless the lacking of scoring continue. Milan are not that bad, they play well, but they don't score. This is the point.

Sweey
21-11-2006, 09:23
If we don't win our next two league games I can see Ancelotti getting the sack. Berlusconi will only allow the slide to go so far.

KainLegacy
21-11-2006, 16:29
Berlusconi likes Ancelotti TOO much,but I can give you a table with the bad reasults we have with him,all from 2004 to today...We will win in Greece,I asure you,then new 5 loses in Seria A :tongue:.The scorelines are...:lol:...in Italy this year,I hope this comes from the great attacking,not the lack of defending.And only we cant score:shock:?!

Maldini said he will reatire after this season,but hopes to win CL for the 5-th time in his life,Ancelotti wants the same "We need to win in greece twice,against AEK and on the final".I hope so...

Sweey
21-11-2006, 16:37
It worries me though. After three wins to open our Serie A campaign, Ancelotti and the players started talking about winning the Scudetto - then look what happened. Now they're doing it with the CL because we've got no chance in Serie A. What next? "We're going to win the Coppa Italia"? I'd rather we didn't, I don't rate it as a competition.

Sweey
21-11-2006, 21:48
Nice, a 1-0 defeat at AEK Athens but yet we qualify - only we could lose to a club who have won only once before in the Champions League AND qualify for the knockout stage at the same time.

They need to get their fucking act together!

Oh and we hit the woodwork again :no:

Joel
21-11-2006, 21:52
Not only qualify for the knock-out stages, but win the group and get the second round home advantages. Strange night for Milan...who screwed me in the damn predictions :realmad:

Sweey
21-11-2006, 22:03
If it is any consolation, we're going to get trounced in the knockout stages if we don't improve.

Joel
21-11-2006, 22:23
Thing is, I really wanted to draw Milan this year.

Would be an emotional and controversial match :blush:

But then again, Chelsea and Milan seem to have a good relationship, so maybe it is better we stay apart.

Sweey
21-11-2006, 23:17
It'd be a good game if we were actually doing well but as it is Shevchenko would simply watch his new friends devour the remnants of the rotting squad he left behind.

nikos24
22-11-2006, 01:35
Sweey one question, why exactly did Stefano Sorrentino not play for any other big clubs in Italy? I know he played for Lazio then Torino? It's a shame he just looks the keeper that could do well for a club like Milan. I don't know, the guy was brilliant tonight. Did you see his saves?

Also, Dida made a tremendous save somewhere in the second half, unfortunately he injured himself. WTF.

Sweey
22-11-2006, 08:48
Sweey one question, why exactly did Stefano Sorrentino not play for any other big clubs in Italy? I know he played for Lazio then Torino? It's a shame he just looks the keeper that could do well for a club like Milan. I don't know, the guy was brilliant tonight. Did you see his saves?

Also, Dida made a tremendous save somewhere in the second half, unfortunately he injured himself. WTF.

I think it is just one of those things where a goalkeeper gets picked up by a foreign side. Carlo Cudicini never played for Milan before about 50 combined appearances for lower division sides and a move to Chelsea. Not sure if you're aware, but Milan want to sign Sorrentino inJanuary and last night proved why.

I saw that Dida save, he started going one way, stretched his muscle and then had to fling himself upwards to stop Cesar making it 2-0. I was appalled by Bonera's defending in the second half when AEK should've made it 2-0.

Sweey
23-11-2006, 18:28
From the official website and only available in Italian at the moment; Dida is out for two to three months (as long as there aren't complications in further tests to be carried out) after injuring himself when making a save late on against AEK Athens.

This season is going to be a total write-off - and who knows, we might end up in Serie B after all.

Il calciatore Nelson Dida, infortunatosi nel corso della partita AEK-Milan, è stato sottoposto ad accertamenti diagnostici e visite specialistiche che hanno evidenziato una lesione parziale del tendine quadricipitale sinistro. Nei prossimi giorni verranno effettuati ulteriori accertamenti. La prognosi iniziale, salvo complicazioni, è di 2/3 mesi.

Karaoke29
23-11-2006, 18:43
I think Milan miss the life in Serie B. In fact, they haven't enjoyed it since the mid 80s. Or they might be missing their beloved rival. :tongue:

Barry
23-11-2006, 19:41
I play Pro Evo with various teams - and Milan buy Suazo in every season. I play Football Manager with various teams - and Milan buy Suazo yet again always.

I think they are trying to tell Milan something :tongue:

Sweey
23-11-2006, 20:58
I signed him in FM07 to stop Juventus getting him - and how I am wishing I hadn't bothered. Iaquinta has destroyed Serie A since joining me :w00t

yaohan
24-11-2006, 01:13
man, Milan might end in Serie B, how I fear that...

Rambo
24-11-2006, 16:41
man, Milan might end in Serie B, how I fear that...

You must be joking? There is still a lot of games to play

-Jamster-
24-11-2006, 16:48
man, Milan might end in Serie B, how I fear that...

You could alwayys take Silvestre from us. He could do you some use at the back alongside Boumsong. :ninja:

Karaoke29
24-11-2006, 16:59
You could alwayys take Silvestre from us. He could do you some use at the back alongside Boumsong. :ninja:
:erm: What do you mean? Boumsong is Bianconeri now.

Sweey
24-11-2006, 17:22
You could alwayys take Silvestre from us. He could do you some use at the back alongside Boumsong. :ninja:

As Ahmedios said, Boumsong plays for Juventus. Silvestre is former Inter scum. Not good enough for what we're looking for either.

yaohan
25-11-2006, 06:17
Unless we sign a world class striker who can link the midfield and the forwards, we are very doomed this season, and IS VERY LIKELY TO BE KICKED OUT OF CL NEXT YEAR, and possible relegation.

Sweey
25-11-2006, 17:53
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

We're being linked with a move for that shittest of goalkeepers, Matteo Sereni. We already have Kalac, we've had Taibi and Lehmann before - why do we want ANOTHER accident-prone goalkeeper? Past mistakes were bad enough. As was Dida in his early days and then during his slump a season or two ago.

We're also being linked with a January move for Francesco Tavano, a player I have never wanted at our club because I simply do not believe he is good enough - even more so now that he hasn't played this season.

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Official line-ups:

Milan (4-3-1-2): Kalac; Bonera, Simic, Maldini, Jankulovski; Brocchi, Pirlo, Gourcuff; Kakà; Gilardino, Inzaghi.
Messina (4-5-1): Storari; Zoro, Iuliano, Rea, Parisi; Lavecchia, De Vezze, Cordova, Coppola, Masiello; Riganò.

I think Ancelotti knows when we're playing live on British TV as he never starts Oliveira in such matches - which pisses me off.

Rigano to score, Messina to earn at least a draw.

yaohan
25-11-2006, 20:07
Sweey, now is a good time to say " I'd rather get fatty ronaldo"

yea, we are SO screwed.

Sweey
25-11-2006, 21:35
A win! Don't get many of these at the moment, but as usual I'm not happy and we're going to analyse why:

Kalac - Saved a shot directly at him, slipped when Rigano had Messina's best chance and was fortunate that, somehow, Rigano headed wide. Was helplessly lost when Cordova's dangerous free-kick flashed wide of the post. 4

Bonera - Got forward well but wasn't particularly effective with his crossing. Did a decent job defensively but wasn't really tested. 5.5

Simic - Caught out once or twice on crosses but otherwise had a good game and kept things tight at the back. 6

Maldini - Scored the winner with a brilliant header and did very well in defence bar one mistake which allowed Rigano a chance to score which he somehow missed. 6.5

Jankulovski - Didn't do anything spectacular but did his job well both defensively and offensively, providing plenty of support for Gourcuff down the left. 6

Pirlo - Nothing spectacular but some decent tackling and his customary probing passes. 6

Gourcuff - Was easily the best player on the pitch for the first half-hour, completely unfazed and made plenty of unpredictable passes to confuse the Messina defence. 7

Brocchi - Fought hard and didn't do anything wrong. Played the Gattuso role which he is so perfect for. 6.5

Kaka - Anonymous in the first half but was the star in the second, finding lots of space and somehow failing to beat the excellent Marco Storari in Messina's goal. Rating reduced by his inability to score one, let alone the two or three he really should have had. Hit the frame of the goal too. 7.5

Inzaghi - Had lots of shots - all wayward. Actually made me laugh with one of his shots as he caught it at the completely wrong time and sent it off towards the corner flag. Not a good night for him. 5

Gilardino - Didn't score but laid off plenty of headers for Inzaghi and Kaka. Floated out to the channels occasionally to provide support to the midfield and crosses for Inzaghi. Very unselfish and linked up well with Kaka and Gourcuff. 7

Substitutes:

Nesta - Very nearly gave away a penalty for shirt pulling but realised what he was doing and let go. Relatively untested aside from that and did a decent job. 6

Seedorf - Did his job quietly when introduced for Inzaghi. 6

Borriello - Didn't have a chance to impress - or disappoint. 5.5

Karaoke29
25-11-2006, 22:24
Congratulations Milan. I haven't congratulated you , I think, 2 months ago. :tongue:. I haven't watched the match yet. I'm going to watch it tomorrow.

Despite being a Legendary Milanist, he is one of the most respected players ever; Paolo Maldini. Hope no any Juve fan read this post :D, I'm happy because he scored. :happy:

Sweey
25-11-2006, 22:26
It was a great goal - and he nearly had an even more spectacular second from a corner late in the second half.

For those who did watch the match tonight, Paolo's son Christian is an attacking midfielder with the Milan under-13(?) side and is, according to what we were told, breaking goalscoring records.

yaohan
25-11-2006, 23:43
wow, we are back to the disappointing wins, but at least its better than disappointing losses.

Sweey
27-11-2006, 09:43
A win is always better. Cagliari away next weekend which isn't going to be easy. We need to shut down Suazo who hasn't hit top form yet.

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Don't really want to go into it because some twat will come along with disparaging remarks, but I sincerely hope there is nothing seriously wrong with our president after what happened yesterday. As a club we couldn't be in better hands than his.

yaohan
28-11-2006, 03:23
our midfield and strikers still don't "connect", what is with this?

Sweey
28-11-2006, 19:30
With Inzaghi shooting like he was we were always going to struggle. Such a shame Oliveira wasn't introduced although his inability to lead the line was the cause of it.

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Starting line-up for tonight's Coppa Italia second leg match at Brescia:

Kalac (:huh:); Bonera, Simic, Kaladze, Antonelli (:D); Brocchi, Pirlo, Jankulovski; Gourcuff; Ricardo Oliveira, Borriello.

yaohan
29-11-2006, 05:23
oliviera scored, how nice.

Sweey
29-11-2006, 07:43
Hopefully he's turned the corner now. Gourcuff had an excellent game.

Karaoke29
29-11-2006, 08:53
News (I consider them rumours more than being news):

-AC Milan target Barcelona pair Zambrotta, Xavi-

-Chelsea ready to send Shevchenko away on-loan, to Milan-

For the first one, I think that Milan would like to land Zambrotta urgently since the previous summer. I can believe this one due to many reasons including Zambrotta's own desire to return to Italy and also for not being the man that we always see, I mean he hasn't reached his form since he left Juventus.

About Xavi, I think this is a rumour.

Shevchenko, we've explained this dozens of time and now I've come to another conclusion; maybe Mourinho let Shevchenko joins Milan after around one month, but this is not the point. Shevchenko is actually a legend and an inspiation for his ex Milan teammates for seven years, but he decided to leave himself and of course he is free to do. But it is all related to the club that made him not the opposite, even if Milan are desperate to have a world class striker. But sorry not Shevchenko. This is my opinion, if we consider that the negotiation between Milan and Chelsea isn't just a rumour.
By the way, this is a principle of mine for general not for such a situation.

Sweey
29-11-2006, 11:41
Seen these recently.

Zambrotta is the most likely, I don't see how we have any chance to Xavi although I think he'd do well. Shevchenko won't be coming back. Doesn't solve our problems, only masks them.

yaohan
30-11-2006, 01:30
I dunno, I wudn't mind Shev coming back.

Sweey
30-11-2006, 07:37
But how would it affect the rest of the team? And how does it genuinely solve our problem when we only have him for one season and will ignore our striking problems - assuming he picks up from where he left off. The problem is we've ignored problems for far too long and need to fix them.

Miggy
30-11-2006, 08:42
I really hope these rumours about Zammy and Xavi aren't true. With every game Zambrotta seems to be adjusting better and we are seeing the true Zambrotta. You can take Belletti if you want, even better take Oleguer :)

Karaoke29
30-11-2006, 08:50
Belletti and Olegeur aren't the types of the players Milan do need. Both of them have never convinced me at all. But if you see them average or above average, so this maybe related to the league where they play in. I mean that the Serie A needs better defenders. When it comes to defending in Italy, so we are talking about the world best defenders.

Sweey
30-11-2006, 10:32
I really hope these rumours about Zammy and Xavi aren't true. With every game Zambrotta seems to be adjusting better and we are seeing the true Zambrotta. You can take Belletti if you want, even better take Oleguer :)

Thanks for the offer :erm: :tongue:

yaohan
01-12-2006, 01:08
But how would it affect the rest of the team? And how does it genuinely solve our problem when we only have him for one season and will ignore our striking problems - assuming he picks up from where he left off. The problem is we've ignored problems for far too long and need to fix them.

it doesn't solve anything long term, but having shev back may gain us a spot in UEFA CL next year, we can figure out the problem in the summer.

I'm not saying problem solved, I'm saying we can have a temporary break from all the lack of score for now.

Sweey
01-12-2006, 07:36
But we're assuming he'll come back and score. I'm not so sure he would/will.

yaohan
02-12-2006, 04:54
I heard that real is on the pursuit for kaka again...Milan better not give in. The last thing we need while trying to rebuild the team is lose another key young player.

Sweey
02-12-2006, 15:49
He insists he won't leave, but then he'd have to be a twat to say "Yeah, I'm actually going".

We want Montella on loan from Roma in January and he's a player we've been admiring for around five years.

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Squad for tomorrow's visit to Cagliari (which involves somr surprises):

Goalkeepers Kalac, Fiori, Facchin

Defenders Antonelli, Bonera, Darmian, Kaladze, Maldini, Jankulovski, Simic.

Midfielders Brocchi, Gourcuff, Lunati, Pirlo, Seedorf.

Forwards Aubameyang, Borriello, Gilardino, Inzaghi, Ricardo Oliveira.

Five youth team players in the group of 20. We are without Dida, Cafu, Costacurta, Favalli, Nesta, Serginho, Simic, Ambrosini, Gattuso and Kaka :no:

yaohan
03-12-2006, 03:30
To be honest, I'd rather have Montella over shevchenko in current situation. Shevchenko would make a bad impact for the team, and he is no longer the leader that left ac milan, he wudn't be or play the same if he comes back so soon. He is gone, stay gone for at least 2 years to consider coming back.

and yeah, our team looks weak for cagliari, I dunno whats gotten into Ancelotti's head, hopefully Rikjaard will make an impact next season.

Looking at our goalkeepers, WOW, disappointing, maybe we should buy Cudincini or something from Chelsea.

Sweey
03-12-2006, 14:30
I'd love us to sign Amelia as I think he's pretty much our best option (Buffon would cost too much and Juventus would replace him with Amelia if they allowed us to sign him).

Antonelli is considered "the next Maldini" by people at the club but I'd rather not comment.

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A.C. Milan announce that Alessandro Nesta will have an operation to his left shoulder on Monday. Serginho will have a operation to his spinal column on Tuesday.

Serginho may never play again and Nesta is out for between two and three months.

yaohan
03-12-2006, 16:40
Another winless game for Milan, at least we scored 2 goals...

Sweey
03-12-2006, 16:46
You can tell we're desperate due to the injuries - for the first time in years we played a 4-4-2. Good that we scored two goals (even Borriello netted :shocking:) but Suazo was all over us and we couldn't contain him.

Unfortunately, Chievo won 2-0 at Livorno and have moved within two points of us while Fiorentina won as well to tighten things up at the bottom.

KainLegacy
04-12-2006, 01:21
Another great news,Brocchi got injuried too,now we have 10...:lol:.I watched the match and I can say we have nothing for to blame against the referee,we failed because we did,not because someone forced us to conceade 2 goals.Pirlo really didnt deserved a red card in my eyes,but its a tackle from behind...
On 5-th December is the first match in my life in which I want Milan to lose,sorry about that,but we are qualified and I really want Lille to get trough(I keep a little place in my heart and for them,but still love Milan far greater).After all I cant see us winning with so many injuries,bad morale and poor desicions so dont take on me for that.
Suazo showed his superiority,by moving between 3 defenders and running past them,so sign him in January Carlo,not Ronaldo...

yaohan
04-12-2006, 03:18
UGH I WANT MY 100 CASH BACK, DAMNIT FOR TYING AGAIN.

anyways, We are really not going to get into CL next year, because our horrible performance.

Diao
04-12-2006, 03:26
Suazo is fucking awesome, they would just knock it through your defence and he would run onto it, he is bloody fast, the only problem I see with him is his goal scoring ability, don't get me wrong he can score goals, but his shooting technique does look abit odd.

Sweey
04-12-2006, 09:19
You're right there Rafa. He's an unorthodox player like George Weah was. The worst thing about Suazo doing so well against us - apart from the fact we wanted to sign him - is that he's had a fairly poor season up until yesterday.

KainLegacy
04-12-2006, 18:23
Small clubs get heated against big ones,so thats why they played well overall.
I see Di Natale is main target for January?!He is good,but I think this is not the time for him,maybe just rumours,there are too many these days.
Yaohan-100$ ??? You are maybe too much of a fan :tongue: if you understand me.If we dont get in CL Kaka will leave,I assure you,so we shall do our best for 4-th place.

yaohan
05-12-2006, 00:49
Yo has anyone heard about the rumor that Inter is actually VERY involved in match fixing but the phone scandal didn't catch them, the phone scandal was actually a very small part that is being revealed. I didn't find source, hopefully Sweey can go out there and find a source, then we'll have something to talk about to the Inter fans.

I found a source, but it is not in english, so not a good one...

Billy Minof
05-12-2006, 01:39
Yo has anyone heard about the rumor that Inter is actually VERY involved in match fixing but the phone scandal didn't catch them, the phone scandal was actually a very small part that is being revealed. I didn't find source, hopefully Sweey can go out there and find a source, then we'll have something to talk about to the Inter fans.

I found a source, but it is not in english, so not a good one...

If 3 or 4 teams were involved in that scandal it is my opinion that alot more if not all of them were, not the players or the managers but the owners and the officials and the Italian FA...

nikos24
05-12-2006, 02:29
Could someone kindly give me the line-up for the game against Lille? :)

Sweey
05-12-2006, 08:36
They won't release it until just before the game but it is supposed to be a very experimental (weak) side.

Diao
05-12-2006, 08:42
Sweey, will Milan try and make a move for Suazo in January? He would be a good signing for you, you need him I reckon.

Gilardinho I don't rate, just doesn't seem to be able to get involved in the game, after watching your game against Caligiri, Inzaghi is getting on abit only has 1 or 2 years left in him I reckon, also Oliviera doesn't seem suited to the Italian game.

Sweey
05-12-2006, 08:47
I've been majorly impressed with Gilardino in recent weeks. Although he's not scored much he has worked very hard to link our play together.

Inzaghi seems to finally be losing his edge and Oliveira has been very unlucky - his sister has been kidnapped and he's hit the frame of the goal twice - and needs time to settle in. Borriello I simply don't consider good enough to play for us despite his impressive-sounding goal against Cagliari.

Our striking targets in January are Suazo - who has finally said he's interested in a move - and Di Natale which tells a story. I don't think Di Natale has the ability to represent one of the big three and I think it is an indication of how desperate we are. Palermo's Di Michele would be a far superior option. Suazo would be an excellent move and was my second choice after Carlos Tevez during the summer. I doubt Cagliari would be willing to sell Suazo which obviously makes things difficult.

Diao
05-12-2006, 08:59
I saw Borriello goal it was ok just flicked/volleyed it over his shoulder, he couldn't do it again if he tried, he is rather shit, why don't you sell him? Try and get abit of money for him

Sweey
05-12-2006, 09:07
He's not worth much and as a fourth-choice striker who won't play much, he won't complain as quickly as others would. I can't believe he actually believes he could earn a regular place in the starting line-up.

Diao
05-12-2006, 09:18
I was shocked when he scored, and also have Milan been that bad all season? They weren't too bad but really for a top 4 team should be beating teams like Caligiri.

Sweey
05-12-2006, 11:02
Generally our play has been fairly decent but we haven't had a cutting edge in attack.

Diao
05-12-2006, 11:05
Ahh right. I guess you would miss Kaka alot, Seedorf isn't bad but Kaka is much better, also he would help out the teams attack with his playmaking

Sweey
05-12-2006, 11:45
We would definitely miss Kaka. Seedorf is alright but as you may have seen on the weekend, he goes through a run of bad decisions and poor play which cost us dearly in midfield. Gourcuff has a bundle of potential but we need to nurture him, not drop him in at the deep end. I'm glad he's getting regular playing time - and doing well with it.

Diao
05-12-2006, 11:48
Gourcuff is really impressing me, plays very well, hopefully Chelsea don't start sniffing around :no:

Sweey
05-12-2006, 11:58
You know both they and Real Madrid will, just give it time. The way things are going Liverpool might join the club.

Diao
05-12-2006, 12:05
True but Liverpool and Madrid don't buy talent to rotten away ;)

Gourcuff would fit in well with Sissoko, Pennant, Gonzalez, all good midfield prospects :tongue:

Sweey
05-12-2006, 12:08
We've got good midfield prospects...somewhere on the planet :erm:

Diao
05-12-2006, 12:11
:laugh:

Milan need to keep hold of Gourcuff and Kaka, as once Milan build up a squad those 2 will be very important for a drive for Serie A.

Sweey
05-12-2006, 12:33
If we could get our hands on Rimini's Ciro Barusso he'd serve as a long-term replacement for Gattuso who still has two to four years left with us. That would sort the midfield out and the attack doesn't need too much work done to it, Suazo or Di Michele alongside what we already have would be fine in my view.

With all that done, we then require a goalkeeper (hopefully Amelia or Buffon, both of whom are targets) and then a new defence (except for Kaladze and Jankulovski). Nesta needs replacing soon and is become too injury-prone, Bonera isn't up to the standard and Simic doesn't convince me.

Joel
05-12-2006, 12:44
So what defenders are your prefered choices?

Sweey
05-12-2006, 12:52
The ones that spring immediately to mind are Christian Chivu, Manuel Pasqual, Andrea Barzagli (he'll move to Juventus), Massimo Oddo and Ilsinho (don't know much about him but he's supposed to be a poor man's Cicinho according to TochaMan! so I'd be happy with that).

We've shown interest in Mexes who I don't like or trust, and Mandelli (Chievo Verona) who I think is just average. Cesare Bovo wouldn't be a bad shout although he's barely played all season. I liked him during his Roma stint last season.

All of them are tough to get hold of, even the two I don't want.

Pierre
05-12-2006, 13:30
According to skysports.com, Milan are interested in Nicklas Bendtner...

Any truth?

Sweey
05-12-2006, 13:41
I've heard it but not from a reliable source as yet so I have my doubts until that changes.

Sweey
05-12-2006, 17:37
Squad for Lille:

Goalkeepers Kalac, Fiori, Facchin
Defenders Antonelli, Bonera, Kaladze, Maldini, Jankulovski, Simic
Midfielders Ambrosini, Brocchi, Gourcuff, Kakà, Pirlo, Seedorf
Forwards Borriello, Gilardino, Inzaghi, Ricardo Oliveira.

Not quite as weak as we were led to believe.

yaohan
06-12-2006, 00:24
yo chivu would be a perfect replacement for maldini, with the exception that he is injured all the time.

Diao
06-12-2006, 03:18
Kalac :w00t

Sweey
06-12-2006, 19:00
Official line-ups:

(4-4-2): Kalac; Bonera, Simic, Kaladze, Jankulovski; Gourcuff, Brocchi, Pirlo, Ambrosini; Inzaghi, Borriello

Lille (4-4-1-1): Malicki; Chalmé, Plestan, Tavlaridis, Tafforeau; Keita, Makoun, Bodmer, Cabaye; Debuchy; Odemwingie

Hmm.

Sweey
06-12-2006, 21:46
Oh look we lost 2-0. Never could have predicted that.

Rambo
06-12-2006, 21:57
Your still through ;)

greenegg
06-12-2006, 22:03
Nice of you to let Lille through :w00t

Sweey
06-12-2006, 22:07
Yes we're still through but only to get hammered in the second round unless we sort the team out - fast. We were without lots of key injured players and fielded a weakened team anyway but we've struggled in the group and that's bad news.

Miggy
06-12-2006, 22:28
Do you think you would of got through if you were in a tougher group? After seeing tonights performance from you guys, I kind of hope we get you in the next round. Lots of whistles after the game from your fans. Rightly so.

Sweey
06-12-2006, 22:54
Do you think you would of got through if you were in a tougher group? After seeing tonights performance from you guys, I kind of hope we get you in the next round. Lots of whistles after the game from your fans. Rightly so.

In fairness we had at least seven players out injured BUT I think we are playing terribly at the moment and can't get any sort of consistency. If we'd had a tougher group we'd have gone out. Every single possible opponent scares the hell out of me because we're not doing well, confidence is low, morale is low and it isn't even a surprise. This has been coming for years.

Reaction:

“We lost in the worst possible way; on home turf when playing badly. It’s a habit we must not get into. The players know the way I feel about this and I expect an immediate reaction. I think I have an excellent rapport with the squad and understand their difficulties, but it’s also important for everyone to act in a more altruistic manner. If Milan are what we saw tonight, then it’s total darkness, as we were awful.” - Carlo Ancelotti

We get either Barcelona, Celtic, Porto, PSV Eindhoven or Real Madrid in the next round.

yaohan
07-12-2006, 04:41
and it is likely we lose, don't worry, it just shows that, WE NEED TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY REBUILDING OUR TEAM.

I started a new master league, without classic players, and I'm trying to rebuild to team on my game lol.

Sweey
09-12-2006, 12:01
The whispers around the Milan camp are increasing.

Berlusconi is ready to replace Ancelotti with Lippi - before the end of the season - is one of them.

Ancelotti himself is fed up of the attitude some of the players are showing and says he won't be nice to them any longer if they don't start performing well.

The newspapers say we're after Oddo, Zambrotta, Fernando Torres (WHY!) and Shevchenko.

I've been wondering over the last week...if Sacchi hadn't taken over in 1996/97 for a short time and caused problems with Christian Panucci, thereby forcing his move to Real Madrid, I think he'd still be at the club. He'd have played at right-back all these years. We'd have another Milan legend on our hands and we'd have little problem at right-back. He still plays superbly for Roma and although he has a bit of an attitude problem, he's generally okay. The decision to bring Sacchi back was an awful one even before he'd taken charge of a match - and that first match he took charge of was an absolute disaster.

Diao
09-12-2006, 12:03
Is Oddo any good though? I thought he was utter shit?

Who you playing this week in the league?

Sweey
09-12-2006, 12:05
We're at home to Torino tomorrow afternoon which will hopefully be shown live over here...depends on which game Setanta Sports decide to televise.

Oddo is good at going forward and taking set pieces. I'm not entirely convinced by his defensive ability but then Cafu can't defend particularly well so that's nothing new to the team.

Diao
09-12-2006, 12:34
Well anything is better then having a 37 year old that can't run, surely? :huh:

Sweey
09-12-2006, 12:43
Our Brazilian grandfather should be back this weekend. He can run, but only forwards. When he has to go back he tends to walk or jog more often than not.

yaohan
09-12-2006, 18:28
LOL, funny one, yeah cafu isn't that great at defending, I'm on my 1st season, and summer transfer i didn't renew Cafu, and simply got Zambrotta, sure costed me a bunch, BUT ITS WORTH IT.

Sweey check out my master league milan on first season

Starting 11
Buffon (LOL!!!)
Nesta
Maldini(hes old, half the time its Chivu)
hopefully Zambrotta, but right now is Coloccini
Mathieu (sometimes I put Chivu)
Pirlo
Gattuso
C.Ronaldo (horrible choice in real life, but its a game, otherwise i'd stay with Seedorf)
Kaka
Tevez (one can only dream, eh?)
Gilardino (solid striker with tevez connecting him, 24 goals in my season)

Sweey
09-12-2006, 19:21
:laugh: nice team.

I've actually signed Buffon in my Master League too...couldn't get Zambrotta so have instead gone with classic players...Baresi, Van Basten, Savicevic, Lentini, Conti, Baggio and Weah. The good old days....

Jake Small
09-12-2006, 19:56
Not really a subject for this thread, but IMO C Ronaldo has been pretty spectacular so far this season (in real life) :D Most any team would kill for that kid methinks.

Sweey
09-12-2006, 20:03
I'd hate having such a personality at Milan. I think Berlusconi likes his style of play but as we don't use wingers there is no point in us signing him.

Jake Small
09-12-2006, 20:19
I've wondered about that by the way: when was the last time Milan did use wingers? And is that some sort of a more philosophical decision or something (like Holland and 4-3-3's)... is it believed to be an inferior style or is there another reason? (maybe Ancelotti is just not comfortable with the style?)

Sweey
09-12-2006, 20:30
It is Ancelotti. During the 1990s we were a strict 4-4-2 club after the system brought in by Arrigo Sacchi. We didn't have world class wingers (except for Dejan Savicevic) but Giovanni Stroppa, Paolo Di Canio, Gianluigi Lentini, Roberto Donadoni, Andres Guglielminpietro and Ibrahim Ba were all players who played on the wings for us.

We first moved away from conventional wingers when Alberto Zaccheroni joined the club and employed a 4-3-3 system. Ancelotti's system scrapped them in order to find a place for Andrea Pirlo whose career was going down the pan as a Totti-style playmaker behind two strikers. He was used to having time on the ball and controlling the tempo at under-21 level and looked as though he'd become a lost talent, someone who could only do it for smaller Italian clubs - like Domenico Morfeo became.

yaohan
09-12-2006, 20:57
off topic again....
Instead of getting zambrotta, who is expensive and going downhill for me this season, I got cannavro, who is surprisingly cheaper, so now i moved Maldini to the right back lol. Also I picked up PJS from Man U and use him as a backup to Gattuso (their styles are very similar except gattuso is more defensive, park is more offensive)

edit: lol, love the old days Sweey, by the way i turned off classic players because CPU teams always use them to overstack their team, which kind of ruins the game, because talent is too concentrated.

C.Ronaldo is talented, but again, he is a winger, who doesn't fit our style of play, but I guess we could use one (I developed a new formation). The most important thing is, we already got Inzaghi who is a diver, we dont need another one who is even worse (in terms of skill) at diving. Also, we are facing teamwork problem in terms that players dont pass good, Kaka can't pass to gilardino for numerous reasons, C.Ronaldo would be a lot worse than kaka.

Man, Cannavaro, Maldini (who willl retire next season), and Nesta on the same team, what a team lol.

Sweey
09-12-2006, 21:18
Man, Cannavaro, Maldini (who willl retire next season), and Nesta on the same team, what a team lol.

Backed up by Buffon I sincerely hope you aren't conceding any goals!

yaohan
09-12-2006, 21:39
only conceded 2 goals in the whole season, 5 goals in the season if you count the games I cheated.

Sweey
09-12-2006, 21:57
only conceded 2 goals in the whole season, 5 goals in the season if you count the games I cheated.

Cheating :no:

CaptainCabinet
09-12-2006, 21:59
*makes joke about the whole Serie A fiasco...* Sorry couldn't resist :tongue:

Sweey
09-12-2006, 22:02
I expected someone to do that, nearly did it myself :laugh:

Nice to see you in here.

CaptainCabinet
09-12-2006, 22:10
Thank you, usually I prefer to watch :mellow:

yaohan
10-12-2006, 20:08
holyfuck our milan team is fucked beyond repair, i predict a 5 year slump.

This is what you get for not doing any maintainence on your team regularily during summer transfers ancelotti! ESPECIALLY RUINING THE TEAMS CHEMISTRY BY NOT FINDING SOMEONE GOOD ENOUGH TO REPLACE SHEVCHENKO.

also, one could speculate that we are having a bad season BECAUSE EVERYONE IS ON THEIR LAST YEAR OF THEIR CONTRACT. HOW DO YOU EXPECT THEM TO PLAY WELL?!!!!

Sweey
10-12-2006, 20:23
Milan = :tumble:

yaohan
10-12-2006, 20:37
yup, i lost more money. back to my cannavaro, maldini, nesta:P

just a question Sweey, for my master league (off topic), should I put cannavaro on the SB instead? sometiems, i have a problem with him not winning headers, cus of his height.

Sweey
10-12-2006, 21:08
I'd have thought Cannavaro's high jumping ability would counter his height problem. Of the three, I'd move Nesta or Maldini to SB sooner than him but you know how your team are playing and what the problems are so trust your instincts.

yaohan
11-12-2006, 05:18
Sweey, do you see the possibility of Ancellotti being sacked by the end of this season? (you'd notice my improved spelling due to Firefox 2.0)

Sweey
11-12-2006, 08:01
:lol: @ spelling comment

To be honest, every weekend I'm expecting to hear of a late night Sunday meeting between him and Berlusconi where he is relieved of his duties.