Useless!

[Flipper the Priest]

Changes I have made of useless players. Just edit and transfer!

Arphexad (Liverpool) to La Tallec (Liverpool)
Blanc (Man Utd) to Bellion (Man Utd)
Boyd (Celtic) to McFadden (Everton)
Caniggia (Rangers) to Demichelis (Bayern Munich)
Collins (Fulham) to Fletcher (Man Utd)
Diomede (Liverpool) to Sinama Pongolle (Liverpool)
Dreher (Bayern Munich) to Rensing (Bayern Munich)
Ferdinand (West Ham) to Bothroyd (Perugia)
Fotheringham (Celtic) to Gallagher (Blackburn)
Freund (Spurs) to Volz (Fulham)
Gakhokidze (PSV) to Khizanishvili (Rangers)
May (Man Utd) to Richardson (Man Utd)
McLeod (Everton) to Ambrose (Newcastle)
Minto (West Ham) to Davis (Fulham)
Moncur (West Ham) to Lee (West Ham)
Schemmel (West Ham) to Clichy (Arsenal)
Staunton (Villa) to Reid (Blackburn)
Taylor (Villa) to McCann (Villa)
Wessels (Bayern Munich) to Schlosser (Bayern Munich)
Winterburn (West Ham) to Gray (Celtic)
Wolleaston (Chelsea) to Zamora (Spurs)

[asher b]

brilliant idea, will take time though. should get a few people together and share out the clubs to look through.

[Flipper the Priest]

I could do Rangers and Celtic as I'm pretty clued up on the oh-so exciting Scottish Premier League. Could do sum Premiership too.

Loan players would have to be accounted for though, like Luke Chadwick and Harpal Singh cos they stil play for Man U and Leeds don't they?

Folk view this site from all over the shop so I'm sure it's possible.

[asher b]

leeds is easy enough.

paul okon
raul bravo
nigel martyn

raul bravo will be transfered back to real madrid, martyn to everton, so that leaves paul okon :)

could be used to create one of the young aussies coming through at leeds if they ever get anywhere, although mc master and cansdell-sherriff are already on there.

ive had a look at chelsea seeing as they have more or less had their whole team replaced. im not sure if these players are definatley useless but maybe someone else will?

de goey
keenan
ambrosetti
oliveira
wolleaston
stanic
ferrer
bogarde
le saux (overwrite with bridge is a good idea)
di cesare

im pretty sure most of those players are young players but best to double check. also not sure if bogarde and ferrer etc still play for them.

[connoll3]

Hope this thread catches on. It's a good idea.

My contribution:

Nigel Winterburn (West Ham)
Peter Schmeichel (Man City)

They've both retired. I don't have PES3, so I don't know if they're still included in the game. But I'm guessing they are since they are in WE7.

[PicturePerfect]

PES3.co.uk (http://www.pes3.co.uk/) can speed things up. They have 100% accurate club squads, so we can look at each club's 'real' squad, compare it with the squads in PES3 and find out which players have retired or are, as the title suggests, useless.

[fordfocus]

I' ll add:
olympiakos:
alexandris
ze ilias
zetteberg
panathinaikos:
vokolos

[asher b]

cheers fordfocus, those two would have stumped us for ages!

[munky]

2 that would stumped you also

galatasaray:
inan
vedat
emre
xavier
polat
ümit davala
suat
fabio
revivo

fenerbahce:
oguz
milkvic
dogan
ogun
erman
abdullah
jiltan
ceyhun
stevic
akdeniz
karaka
washington
beschastnykh

[asher b]

thats the hardest 4 out of the way :)

[fordfocus]

I suggest that someone has to write all the players in one post and edit everytime someone adds something.

[munky]

he would probably die

[asher b]

thats the best idea. who wants to do it?

[fordfocus]

So far we have:
Laurent BLANC
David MAY
Paul OKON (LEEDS)
Raul BRAVO (LEEDS)
Nigel MARTYN (LEEDS)
Nigel WINTERBURN (WEST HAM)
Peter SCHMEICHEL (MAN. CITY)
Alekos ALEXANDRIS (OLYMPIAKOS)
ZE ILIAS (OLYMPIAKOS)
Par ZETTERBERG (from OLYMPIAKOS to ANDERLECHT)
Leonidas VOKOLOS (PANATHINAIKOS)
INAN (GALATASARAI)
VEDAT (GALATASARAI)
EMRE (GALATASARAI)
XAVIER (GALATASARAI)
POLAT (GALATASARAI)
UMIT DAVALA (GALATASARAI)
SUAT (GALATASARAI)
FABIO (GALATASARAI)



Celtic

Out
Boyd (retired- change to McFadden>Everton or Fletcher>ManUtd)
Healy (Sunderland- copy over in Ireland, change to Miller)
Fotheringham(Dundee- change to McFadden>Everton or Fletcher>ManUtd)

In
Gray
Varga (Slovakia)


Rangers

Out
Caniggia ( dunno, but useless)
Amoruso (Blackburn)
Bonnissel (Fulham)
Konterman (Vitesse, very useless)
Eggen (dunno, but useless)
Numan (retired, change to ?)
Muscat (Millwall, still in Australia team)
Ferguson (Blackburn)
McCann (Southampton, still in Scotland team)

In
Emerson (Athletico Madrid)
Ostenstad (Blackburn)
Khizanishvili (Edit over Gakhokidze i.e. the only other "useless" Georgian, for PSV)
Vanoli (Bologna)
Capucho (Porto)
Berg (Blackburn)


REVIVO (GALATASARAI)
OGUZ (FENERBAHCHE)
MILKVICH (FENERBAHCHE)
DOGAN (FENERBAHCHE)
OGUN (FENERBAHCHE)
ERMAN (FENERBAHCHE)
ABDULLAH (from FENERBAHCHE to GALATASARAI)
JILTAN (FENERBAHCHE)
CEYHUN (FENERBAHCHE)
STEVIC (FENERBAHCHE)
AKDENIZ (FENERBAHCHE)
KARAKA (FENERBAHCHE)
WASHINGTON (FENERBAHCHE)
BESCHASTNYKH (FENERBAHCHE)

[Flipper the Priest]

Celtic

Out
Boyd (retired- change to McFadden>Everton or Fletcher>ManUtd)
Healy (Sunderland- copy over in Ireland, change to Miller)
Fotheringham(Dundee- change to McFadden>Everton or Fletcher>ManUtd)

In
Gray
Varga (Slovakia)


Rangers

Out
Caniggia ( dunno, could change to Demichelis of B.Munich)
Amoruso (Blackburn)
Bonnissel (Fulham)
Konterman (Vitesse, very useless)
Eggen (dunno, but useless)
Numan (retired, change to ?)
Muscat (Millwall, still in Australia team)
Ferguson (Blackburn)
McCann (Southampton, still in Scotland team)

In
Emerson (Athletico Madrid)
Ostenstad (Blackburn)
Khizanishvili (Edit over Gakhokidze i.e. the only other "useless" Georgian, for PSV)
Vanoli (Bologna)
Capucho (Porto)
Berg (Blackburn)

[will cox]

How can anyone ever possibly criticise David May? He's quality! :mad:

[Flipper the Priest]

I reckon internationalists should be marked cos they cant really be edited unless theyre copied over in their national side and edited for their club.

Also, are all these Fenerbahche, Galatasaray, Olympiakos and Panathanaikos players completely useless, cos if one of them signs for another team in the game then they will have to be reset to default if u catch my drift.

Maybe retirements could be marked out to cos then we can see who can definitely be edited over.

[munky]

they are completely useless and definately won't join a team in the game.ç..

[Sheva]

Zetterberg (Olympiakos) now plays for Anderlecht. And Abdullah (Fenerbache) have gone to Galatasaray.

[djdavedoc]

It would be great to get the right players at the right clubs with their nationalities remaining in tact. not sure how its going to work though as there might be a lot of useless players of totally wrong nationalities!

[Flipper the Priest]

I'm gutted this hasn't caught on. :(

But I'm goin to soldier on, in hope that one day my plane will fly!

I will edit my first post to list the changes I have made. (Again) in hope that people latch on and get going.

[Egophobia]

IMO this is a very important thread, so I present to you: (Drumroll)




A bump :P




Egophobia

[foeto]

best thing to do, this is wot i did, is to go 2 somthing like www.skysports.com (http://www.skysports.com) n check each sides transfers, only side u cant get off there are the greek and turkish sides and its fully up to date

[wbafanlee]

Algeria
Ali Bernarbia (Manchester City)
Djamel Belmadi (Manchester City)

Angola
Cabral (Benfica)

Argentina
Martin Herrera (Fulham)
Vicente Matias Vuoso (Manchester City)
Eduardo Tuzzio (Marseille)
Martin Cardetti (Paris Saint Germain)
Christian Raul Ledesma (Hamburg)
Leandro Cufre (AS Roma)
Claudio Caniggia (Rangers)
Juan Gomez (Atletico Madrid)
Agata (PES United)
Boyano (PES United)
Alnenda (WE United)

Australia
Shane Cansdell-Sherriff (Leeds United)
Jacob Burns (Leeds United)
Joseph Didulica (Ajax)
Sirojuntle (PES United)
Marsatto (WE United)
Lanalkiss (WE United)

Austria
Michael Baur (Hamburg)
Virota (PES United)
Pjinatigh (WE United)
Cejumi (WE United)

Belgium
Filip De Wilde (Anderlecht)
Bertrand Crasson (Anderlecht)
Giles De Bilde (Anderlecht)
Philippe Leonard (Monaco)

Bermuda
Shaun Goater

Brazil
Rodrigo (Everton)
Aldair (AS Roma)
Bilica (Brescia)
Claudio Taffarel (Parma)
Nene (Hertha Berlin)
Alves (Hertha Berlin)
Leonardo (Feyenoord)
Romaldinho (PES United)

Cameroon
Tchami (Herth Berlin)
Nzom Gole (PES United)
Sutto (WE United)
Jig (WE United)
Aunugi (WE United)

Canada
Ciurmira (PES United)

Croatia
Sasa Bjelanovic (Chievo)

China
Pas Chiton (WE United)

Czech Republic
??? Klein (Sparta Prague)

Democratic Republic of Congo
Calvin Zola Makongo (Newcastle United)

Denmark
Bjarne Goldbaek (Fulham)
Sarto (PES United)

England
Alan Wright (Aston Villa)
Ian Taylor (Aston Villa)
Ryan Robinson (Blackburn Rovers)
David Dunn (Blackburn Rovers)
Rhys Evans (Chelsea)
Greame Le Saux (Chelsea)
Carlton Cole (Chelsea)
Robert Wolleaston (Chelsea)
George Pilkington (Everton)
Kevin McLeod (Everton)
Lucas Cornwall (Fulham)
Harpal Singh (Leeds United)
Carlo Nash (Manchester City)
Steve Howey (Manchester City)
David May (Manchester United)
Luke Chadwick (Manchester United)
Danny Webber (Manchester United)
Alton Thelwell (Tottenham Hotspur)
Ben Thatcher (Tottenham Hotspur)
Teddy Sheringham (Tottenham Hotspur)
Nigel Winterburn (West Ham United)
Scott Minto (West Ham United)
John Moncur (West Ham United)
Les Ferdinand (West Ham United)
Bag (WE United)

Finland
Sazi (WE United)

France
Pegguy Arphexad (Liverpool)
Gregory Vignal (Liverpool)
Alou Diarra (Liverppol)
Bernard Diomede (Liverpool)
Laurent Blanc (Manchester United)
Sebastian Schemmel (West Ham United)
Plestan (Monaco)
Fredric Jay (Auxerre)
Loris Reina (Marseille)
Mickael Marsiglia (Marseille)
Sebastien Gregori (Marseille)
Jerome Perez (Marseille)
Ibrahim Ba (AC Milan)
Moreau (Internazionale)
Lilian Nalis (Chievo)
Rane (WE Unied)

Germany
Steffen Freund (Tottenham Hotspur)
Ulf Kirsten (Bayer Leverkusen)
Wessels (Bayern Munich)
Dreher (Bayern Munich)
Florian Thorwart (Borrusia Dortmund)
Jorg Heiinrich (Borrusia Dortmund)
Achenbach (Borrusia Dortmund)
Martin Groth (Hamburg)
Hillenbrand (Hamburg)
Tretschok (Hertha Berlin)
Preetz (Hertha Berlin)
Kohler (Hertha Berlin)
Oliver Bierhoff (Chievo)
Razetow (PES United)
Metelger (PES United)

Georgia
Giorgi Gakhokidze (Ajax)

Ghana
Eric Addo (Ajax)

Iceland
Joey Gudjonsson (Aston Villa)
Sverrisson (Hertha Berlin)

Ireland (Republic)
Steve Staunton (Aston Villa)

Italy
Gabrielle Ambrosetti (Chelsea)
Paolo Di Canio (West Ham United)
Marco Simone (Monaco)
Francesco Antonioli (AS Roma)
Masimo Marrazzina (AS Roma)
Davide Bombardini (AS Roma)
Luca Toni (Brescia)
Stefano Lorenzi (Chievo)
Emanuele Pesaresi (Chievo)
Eugenio Corini (Chievo)
Della Morte (Chievo)
Beghetto (Chievo)
Grassadonia (Chievo)
Serena (Internazionale)
Nicola Ventola (Internazionale)
Enrico Chiesa (Lazio)
Alfonso (Parma)
Sean Sogliano (Perugia)
Como (PES United)
Iujimano (WE United)
Coppola (Bologna)
Falcon (Bologna)
Paramatti (Bologna)
Olives (Bologna)
Frara (Bologna)
Salvetti (Bologna)
Cipriani (Bologna)
Della Rocca (Bologna)
Micillo (Brescia)

Ivory Coast
Ibrahima Bakayoko (Marseille)

Latvia
Igor Stepanovs (Arsenal)

Lebanon
Roda Antar (Hamburg)

Macedonia
Nedzipi (Hertha Berlin)

Morocco
Hassan Kachloul (Aston Villa)

Netherlands
Ed De Goey (Chelsea)
John Karelse (Newcastle United)
Raimond Van Der Gouw (West Ham United)
Rob Maas (Hertha Berlin)
Smit (Bologna)
Aron Winter (Ajax)
Stefano Seedorf (Ajax)
Richard Witschage (Ajax)
Carlo L’ami (Feyenoord)
Pinas (Feyenoord)
Michael Lamey (PSV Eindhoven)
Bert Konterman (Rangers)
Arthur Numan (Rangers)
De Kaam (PES United)
Kmou (PES United)
Kondelenan (PES United)
Van Heert (WE United)

Nigeria
Ranow (PES United)

Norway
Vegard Heggem (Liverpool)
Alf Inge Haaland (Manchester City)
Dan Eggen (Rangers)

Paraguay
Azara (PES United)
R. Acuna (PES United)

Poland
Houtmael (PES United)

Portugal
Nuno Santos (Benfica)
Joao M Pinto (Benfica)
Ednilson (Benfica)
Fillco (WE United)

Romania
Chigrat (WE United)

Russia
Nirimorf (WE United)

Scotland
John Collins (Fulham)
Michael Stewart (Manchester United)
Brian Kerr (Newcastle United)
Tom Boyd (Celtic)
Mark Fotheringham (Celtic)
Heycory (PES United)
Dogue (PES United)

Serbia & Montenegro
Zvonko Milijevic (Anderlecht)
Bojan Djordjic (Manchester United)
Vladmir Jugovic (Monaco)
Drulovic (Benfica)
Djorovic (Deportivo a Coruna)

Spain
Albert Ferrer (Chelsea)
Enrique De Lucas (Chelsea)
Ricardo (Manchester United)
Josep Guardiola (Brescia)
David Fernandez (Celtic)
Juanmi (Deportivo La Coruna)
Dani Mallo (Deportivo La Coruna)
Donato (Deportivo La Coruna)
Changui (Deportivo La Coruna)
Ivan Perez (Deportivo La Coruna)
Valdo (Real Madrid)
Miguel Albioli (Valencia)

South Africa
Footyn (WE United)
Ita (WE United)

South Korea
Cinu Santiku (WE United)

Sweden
Pontus Farnerud (Monaco)
Fredrik Risp (Chievo)
Jaromton (WE United)

Turkey
Sariw (PES United)
Otam (PES United)

United States
Boanerm (WE United)

Uruguay
Rodiguez (PES United)

[Daipac]

WOW ! wbafanlee, that is genius and just what I need to go about changing all the players in my option file and keep their nationalities. I am going to post my option file when it is done if anybody wants it.

Daipac

[wbafanlee]

I can't guarantee I got it 100% right. One mistake i've spotted is Eric Addo is actually at PSV. I'll try to check through sometime and edit the mistakes. It suprisingly only took about half hour to do.

[sheringham316]

i got a question..... could someone please tell me how to transfer people who dont play for any1 such as "bellion" to man u... ive searched everywhere but had no answers :(

thanks!! :)

[Zygalski]

You have to edit a player already in the game, such as a fake one from the PES/WE teams and make them into Bellion. Then do a simple transfer to the new club. You can also use retired players. Or it could save time if you just edit Blanc until he becomes Bellion. Stuff like that.

[sheringham316]

will that mean that theres is gonna be 2 bellion's
oh yea, ok i get ya i forgot that you could delete players :rolleyes:

[Flipper the Priest]

Re: wbafanlee

Someone took up my idea after all. (sniff) :rolleyes:

The only prob is taking into account people on loan. Cos they might pop up back at their clubs and not be so useless after all.

Otherwise, great work!

[Zygalski]

Bellion isn't in the game to start with, is he? I don't think he is. So if you change someone else to become him, that should be the only one of him.

[Giggsy11]

When i made Bellion, i just overwrited Blanc because that way Bellion is french and you can just change the commentary name.

[Daipac]

I am going about making all the changes due to transfers this season and I am going to be changing alot of the players in that list. Once it is done then my option file should have all the players up to date with hopefully most of them having the correct nationality.

Great thread.

[georginho]

Really useful thread.

[pesnorway]

Thanks for this thread.
Espacially to wbafanlee this really helped me :) :)

But I noticed one that was missing:

Northern Ireland:
Keith Gillespie (Blackburn) to Leicester

[Flipper the Priest]

Well if you have an X-Port certain programs allow you to edit everything including nationalities.

But if you don't then this thread is the bomb!

Wonder who started it?

Should be given a gift of some sort.

[wr50l]

Changes I have made of useless players. Just edit and transfer!

Collins (Fulham) to Fletcher (Man Utd)


Fletcher is already in the game, just change Stewart( Man U)'s hairstyle and haircolour.

[Ehmad]

You sure about that mate

[pesnorway]

Gillespie isn`t useless.

I forgot about the Northern Ireland national team.

[pesnorway]

Fletcher is already in the game, just change Stewart( Man U)'s hairstyle and haircolour.

No, no, no, Fletcher is much better than Stewart

a good version of Fletcher is around here somewhere

[GoonerLover66]

My Updated TOP 3 teams

Arsenal

Keown to Hoyte
Parlour to Bentley
Van Bronckhorst to Owsu Abeyie
Seaman to R.Smith
Wiltord to Clichy

Overwrite players on National teams to get
Stack (Ireland)
Senderos (Switzerland)


Chelsea

Wolleaston to Bridge
Le Saux to Parker
Carlton Cole to Joe Cole
De Goey to Makalamby
Desailly to Makelele (May rethink that one)

Overwrite players on National Team
Macho (Austria)


Manchester United

Stewart to Fletcher
Blanc to Bellion
May to A.Smith
Veron to Heinze