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Zygalski
29-04-2006, 20:56
PAL to NTSC
http://img88.exs.cx/img88/4898/ps2_pal2ntsc_yfix.jpg

NTSC to PAL
http://img109.exs.cx/img109/7857/ps2_ntsc2pal_yfix.jpg

Just save the file to your hard drive. Then, right click on it and select Open With-->Choose Program-->Winrar Archiver. Then click extract to and extract the files to your hard drive.

Simpler way to download is by these mirrors:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DJCPO4UY
http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0ZR23MNUCI3VP2JCKORA 8TZX5O

Unrar and follow instructions.

Or a simpler way to get NTSC games in colour is to buy a good scart cable like this one:
http://www.edirectory.co.uk/pf/pages/moreinfoa.asp?pe=DEEHJCHQ_+pla ystation+2+ps2+ultimate+scart&cid=880

ibra87
29-04-2006, 21:09
From personal experience I think that making a P/N launcher is a good idea, especially since it's not 100% that the patch works. There is a list over the games that do and games that don't work wit this patch, you can probably find it in the readme file. WE10 does work (tested it my self).

Gun_Runner
29-04-2006, 21:13
So what exactly does this do?

ibra87
29-04-2006, 21:16
Converts PAL PS2 Images to NTSC or vice versa. Useful for those who have color problems.

dudusz
29-04-2006, 21:36
There's a even better PAL to NTSC encoder:

http://www.megaupload.com/pt/?d=3L8JA97C

I've used this with the WE10 image and works fine
The pros of this encoder over the other is that it correct the image size wich with other encoder become bigger than the tv size..

Works greatly... At least with all the games I tried it did...

Also it has NTSC to PAL...

Cheers!

Zygalski
29-04-2006, 21:54
Thanks for that.

Gun_Runner
29-04-2006, 22:32
Does anyone think that playing a game on 50hz or 6ohz makes a difference to the actual game? coz whenever i play PES5 i use both options, sometimes 50 & sometimes 60...but it seems at 50hz the players are skinny and tall, whereas 60hz theyre smaller and fatter-and the game seems to be a lot faster?

ibra87
29-04-2006, 23:18
There's a even better PAL to NTSC encoder:

http://www.megaupload.com/pt/?d=3L8JA97C

I've used this with the WE10 image and works fine
The pros of this encoder over the other is that it correct the image size wich with other encoder become bigger than the tv size..

Works greatly... At least with all the games I tried it did...

Also it has NTSC to PAL...

Cheers!

Thanks, however the problem you're talking about doesn't really occure when NTSC-> Pal if you do the Y-Fix. The only problem is when you PAL->NTSC. This is because PAL has more height resolution (more lines) than NTSC. If the PAL game is not fullscreen (has 2 small black bars at top and bottom) then it may be possible to watch the whole picture in NTSC.
But if it automatically corrects the image when PAL->NTSC instead of you having to change it manually, then it's definitely better.

Zygalski
29-04-2006, 23:45
Does anyone think that playing a game on 50hz or 6ohz makes a difference to the actual game? coz whenever i play PES5 i use both options, sometimes 50 & sometimes 60...but it seems at 50hz the players are skinny and tall, whereas 60hz theyre smaller and fatter-and the game seems to be a lot faster?Yes there is a difference due to the change in the screen height but I think the main difference is the speed of the game in both resolutions.

DEFECTiON
30-04-2006, 00:44
Zyg, I get a database error on your link posted, know of any alternative places you can get it?

(Referring to this)
Or a simpler way to get NTSC games in colour is to buy a good scart cable like this one:
http://www.edirectory.co.uk/pf/pages...cart& cid=880

Zygalski
30-04-2006, 00:59
The link in your quote appears to be wrong.

Try this:
http://www.edirectory.co.uk/pf/pages/moreinfoa.asp?pe=DEEHJCHQ_+pla ystation+2+ps2+ultimate+scart&cid=880

Gun_Runner
30-04-2006, 01:08
Yes there is a difference due to the change in the screen height but I think the main difference is the speed of the game in both resolutions.

which do you prefer to play it on and which is faster?

Zygalski
30-04-2006, 01:15
I used to play PES4 on 60Hz but went to a few tournaments where the tvs were set to 50 and found the difference a bit off-putting so i've played on 50 since then.

Some say 50 is faster and some say 60 is faster. I think it depends on your TV. From their names, 60Hz would be faster but it doesn't always seem that way.

dudusz
30-04-2006, 01:47
Thanks, however the problem you're talking about doesn't really occure when NTSC-> Pal if you do the Y-Fix. The only problem is when you PAL->NTSC. This is because PAL has more height resolution (more lines) than NTSC. If the PAL game is not fullscreen (has 2 small black bars at top and bottom) then it may be possible to watch the whole picture in NTSC.
But if it automatically corrects the image when PAL->NTSC instead of you having to change it manually, then it's definitely better.

I never tried the Pal to Ntsc since my PS2 is the american type (NTSC), only Pal to Ntsc, and it automatically corrects the image, as you asked...

Akkie
30-04-2006, 16:51
Does somebody tried this with we10? I mean NTSC to Pal? And if you did, wich program did you used. The one of dudusz of the program of Zygalski?

Thanks

ibra87
30-04-2006, 21:02
Does somebody tried this with we10? I mean NTSC to Pal? And if you did, wich program did you used. The one of dudusz of the program of Zygalski?

Thanks
I did. Well the program surely does look well kinda exactly the same. However the creator of the program (at least in the readme) is different, and has a site with a list of which games work with PAL->NTSC. But I think yes, it will work if you use this program.

Ko_nami
30-04-2006, 21:41
So does this work for older WE games aswell? And does it work for other NTSC games? And if it does work for other NTSC titles, whic ones have been patched successfully?

I mean, I've never had any aesthetical problems in playing NTSC games but the thing that annoys me the most is the constant bleeping sound in the background.

It would be great if I could play my NTSC games in PAL so to completely eradicate the bleeping sound.

ramiro7
02-05-2006, 16:04
ps2 vfix 2005 is nice prog. i recommend to try it

Ko_nami
06-05-2006, 21:37
I hate to burst everyones bubble here but this patch didn't work for me. :erm:

I downloaded and tried patching my WE10 from NTSC to PAL but it didn't take. :no:

I still have an NTSC signal. :(

ibra87
07-05-2006, 13:17
So does this work for older WE games aswell? And does it work for other NTSC games? And if it does work for other NTSC titles, whic ones have been patched successfully?

I mean, I've never had any aesthetical problems in playing NTSC games but the thing that annoys me the most is the constant bleeping sound in the background.

It would be great if I could play my NTSC games in PAL so to completely eradicate the bleeping sound.
I am not réally sure about the sound thingy (never noticed any beeping) but it does work for most of the NTSC games. All the times I've tried to patch it only a few games didn't work e.g. WE9. I have a list somwhere, I can try finding it later on, since my PC is real messy :(

micah1880
09-05-2006, 11:42
I want to convert this game to PAL but I also want to use an English patch on the game.

Does it matter what order I do these in?

Zygalski
09-05-2006, 11:57
I don't think it does. But someone else who has done it would be in a better position to answer. Try asking here (http://www.evo-web.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=31142)

Ko_nami
09-05-2006, 12:21
I want to convert this game to PAL but I also want to use an English patch on the game.

Does it matter what order I do these in?

Yeah, I tried the same.

I applied the Fernando patch first then used the NTSC to PAL converter to patch to PAL.

It didn't work for me. :no:

micah1880
10-05-2006, 09:17
I tried it with fabiano´s patch. I converted it to PAL first then applied the patch.

The patch works fine but it's in black and white. Not to worry. I think I'll just hook my ps2 up to my portable TV. I was thinking of doing it anyway.

Neo
12-05-2006, 12:15
I applyed fabino's then converted to PAL. it worked fine, and was in color but the game is reeeaaaaalllllly slow. Anyone know how to fix this without having to play in black and white?

inite
21-05-2006, 12:21
I hate to burst everyones bubble here but this patch didn't work for me. :erm:

I downloaded and tried patching my WE10 from NTSC to PAL but it didn't take. :no:

I still have an NTSC signal. :(

Same happened to me. Any clue what could have gone wrong?

Ko_nami
21-05-2006, 12:44
Same happened to me. Any clue what could have gone wrong?

I suspect that it has something to do with Fernando's Translation patch. But I have no idea on how to fix it.

Fraggleshock
27-05-2006, 13:47
Thank you got it too work with WE:10 but no joy with FF XII im guessing the more it has to convert and with FFXII being a FMV heavy game it has difficulty.

I only presume this becaus on WE:10 after conversion it sometimes stutters on the FMV intro scene a little bit.