View Full Version : Luis Aragones is a genius!!!
fattyronaldo
06-05-2006, 12:59
Midfielder Jose Maria "Guti" Gutierrez was left off Spain's roster for a pre-World Cup gathering of players on Tuesday.
Spain coach Luis Aragones selected 27 players, a group that included Andres Iniesta. Aragones also bypassed Ivan de la Pena and Vicente Rodriguez.
Aragones will announce his final 23-player squad on May 15, the day rosters must be submitted to FIFA.
Spain has exhibition games against Russia on May 27, Egypt on June 3 and Croatia on June 7. At the World Cup, it has first-round games against Ukraine, Tunisia and Saudi Arabia.
The roster:
Goalkeepers: Santiago Canizares (Valencia), Iker Casillas (Real Madrid), Jose Reina (Liverpool, England).
Defenders: Joan Capdevila (Deportivo de La Coruna), Asier Del Horno (Chelsea, England), Juanito Gutierrez (Real Betis), Pablo Ibanez (Atletico de Madrid), Antonio Lopez (Atletico de Madrid), Carlos Marchena (Valencia), Carles Puyol (Barcelona), Sergio Ramos (Real Madrid), Michel Salgado (Real Madrid), Javi Venta (Villarreal).
Midfielders: David Albelda (Valencia), Xabi Alonso (Liverpool, England), Luis Garcia (Liverpool, England), Xavi Hernandez (Barcelona), Marcos Senna (Villarreal), Cesc Fabregas (Arsenal, England), Ruben Baraja (Valencia); Joaquin Sanchez (Real Betis), Andres Iniesta (Barcelona).
Forwards: Raul Gonzalez (Real Madrid), Fernando Morientes (Liverpool, England), Jose Antonio Reyes (Arsenal, England), Fernando Torres (Atletico de Madrid), David Villa (Valencia).
It may be too early to say, but this is the team most likely to be brought to Germany. Leaving out Guti who's form has been good and consistent this season. This may be bias coming from a Real Madrid fan, but I think Guti deserves to go to Germany. And if that's not bad enough, he left out De La Pena who lead Espanyol to the Copa Del Rey and Vincente, it surely speaks volumes. Anyone of the 3 left out surely deserves the place more than Luis Garcia, Iniesta or Raul(there I said it)
Aragones should really let his decision making make up for his racism.
It may be too early to say, but this is the team most likely to be brought to Germany. Leaving out Guti who's form has been good and consistent this season. This may be bias coming from a Real Madrid fan, but I think Guti deserves to go to Germany. And if that's not bad enough, he left out De La Pena who lead Espanyol to the Copa Del Rey and Vincente, it surely speaks volumes. Anyone of the 3 left out surely deserves the place more than Luis Garcia, Iniesta or Raul(there I said it)
Aragones should really let his decision making make up for his racism.
Do you even know what the word "genius" means?
Do you know what the word "genius" means? http://www.bbc.co.uk/cumbria/competitions/2003/08/hair_cuts/images/peter_beardsley_150.jpg
fattyronaldo
06-05-2006, 13:15
Do you even know what the word "genius" means?
Maybe I should work on my sacarsm...
Gun_Runner
06-05-2006, 13:16
It may be too early to say, but this is the team most likely to be brought to Germany. Leaving out Guti who's form has been good and consistent this season. This may be bias coming from a Real Madrid fan, but I think Guti deserves to go to Germany. And if that's not bad enough, he left out De La Pena who lead Espanyol to the Copa Del Rey and Vincente, it surely speaks volumes. Anyone of the 3 left out surely deserves the place more than Luis Garcia, Iniesta or Raul(there I said it)
Aragones should really let his decision making make up for his racism.
Although Senna's been on good form for Villarreal I dont think hes been as good as Guti or Vicente...i think one of they 2 or even both deserve to go..
I dont really think theres a need for 3 keepers either.
Maybe I should work on my sacarsm...
Maybe you should.
He's a cunt and i want to beat the shit out of him. Whats his address?
Do you even know what the word "genius" means?
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But let's not go there; he has good reasons to leave Guti out; Xavi,Fabregas,Iniesta,Xabi Alonso and Joaquin.
Iniesta has so much more potential, why take Mr Attitude Problems?
As for Vicente, he has been injured a long time and before that he was wank.
That's pretty much the best team you can get from Spain. Espanyol is 15th in the league, and besides the Copa Del Rey, De La Pena has hardly impressed me. Vicente hasn't been on his usual form, he has scored only 3 goals so far in La Liga.
Guti is a close call, I might even drop Xavi (has been injured for ages) for him. But it's just a matter of taste.
Iniesta has so much more potential, why take Mr Attitude Problems?
As for Vicente, he has been injured a long time and before that he was wank.
Exactly, Vicente has a lot of potential but he has had like a one good season. Overrated if you ask me.
Guti has had his chance, and Iniesta has been one of Barca's best players in the CL lately.
Original?
06-05-2006, 14:37
Also that isn't his world cup squad it's a friendly squad... he knows what those he left out can do perhaps he's experimenting ;)
Haha all the players are from either La Liga or The Premiership.
Dr. Bob Kelso
06-05-2006, 16:38
It may be too early to say, but this is the team most likely to be brought to Germany. Leaving out Guti who's form has been good and consistent this season. This may be bias coming from a Real Madrid fan, but I think Guti deserves to go to Germany. And if that's not bad enough, he left out De La Pena who lead Espanyol to the Copa Del Rey and Vincente, it surely speaks volumes. Anyone of the 3 left out surely deserves the place more than Luis Garcia, Iniesta or Raul(there I said it)
Aragones should really let his decision making make up for his racism.
Yeah that Garcia is shit. Especially in big games.
Yeah that Garcia is shit. Especially in big games. Always stick a 5er on Garcia when it's a big game like to score first
Malagacf
08-05-2006, 12:03
Do you want to see what's shit?, take a look to Joaquín, Torres, Albelda, Marchena, Juanito or Raul, awful players that will help with the fact of Spain being cursed on world championships.:no:
fattyronaldo
08-05-2006, 14:34
Do you want to see what's shit, take a look to Joaquín, Torres, Albelda, Marchena, Juanito or Raul, awful players that will help with the fact os Spain being cursed on world championships.:no:
What's wrong with Torres? If Spain are gonna score goals he's gonna do it, along with Villa. This has not been Joaquin's season but I don't think anyone else can play on the wing better than he can. Anyways, Guti would be essential for Spain, pity there's not much of a chance of him going.
What's wrong with Torres? If Spain are gonna score goals he's gonna do it, along with Villa. This has not been Joaquin's season but I don't think anyone else can play on the wing better than he can. Anyways, Guti would be essential for Spain, pity there's not much of a chance of him going. Essential, don't make me laugh
Powerslave
08-05-2006, 15:56
i really think Guti should go, he's been regular on real madrid, and he's a great player...
fattyronaldo
08-05-2006, 17:35
Essential, don't make me laugh
Well I'm sorry if I made you laugh too hard mate ;)
Look, all I'm saying is that Guti deserves a spot in Germany. He's been doing really well this season and it's not his fault that the rest of Madrid's been playing like shit. He goes into every game and gives his 100%, and he's been one of, if not the most consistent player for us this season. Only flaw is his recklessness, making bad tackles. Other than that he has the creativity, vision and the best goal to minutes-played ratio amoung all the spanish central midfielders. And Spain really lacks creativity these days, Guti takes his chances. I'd say it's better to try an audacious pass rather than play it safe and create nothing.
I'd take Iniesta over Guti any day of the week. That's not a biased opinion btw. Honestly.
Jesus Navas should go ahead of Morientes and Raul.
Yep, completely agree with what Muad just said. Also checked out this Navas guy and he such exceptional talent. Raul or Morientes for me is becoming a shit decision. But when they work together, it's one of the best partnerships. I don't know if they still have that touch though. Who are the starting forward/s for Spain? Villa? :w00t
Osama_BinLaden
12-05-2006, 20:07
That team is pants. Where are Oleguer, Yeste, and Iraola?
Fernando Morientes? Why????????????? How many goals has Morientes scored this season? How many games has he played? Morientes is a good player but not a World cup player!!!
McGregor
18-05-2006, 18:19
Morientes is not even going to the world cup so why are you even mentioning him. He has been left out.
Aragones is a racist cunt. No genius whatsoever.
Aragones is a racist cunt. No genius whatsoever.
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!
Malagacf
19-05-2006, 08:19
Aragones is a racist cunt. No genius whatsoever.
I don't like Aragones, but he's not. He just call Henry "black", he didn't call him monkey, animal, or something like that. Is it an offense? If I were black I'll be very proud if somebody call me black.
Ah, he's a crap coach.
Aragones is a racist cunt. No genius whatsoever. Ron Atkinson is proof that racism and genius can be mentioned in the same sentance
That team is pants. Where are Oleguer, Yeste, and Iraola?
Fernando Morientes? Why????????????? How many goals has Morientes scored this season? How many games has he played? Morientes is a good player but not a World cup player!!!
I think its justifiable to leave "I can't cross, defend and I'm slower than a turtle glued to rubber" Oleguer out. I can't judge Iraola and Yeste though.
I think its justifiable to leave "I can't cross, defend and I'm slower than a turtle glued to rubber" Oleguer out. I can't judge Iraola and Yeste though.
Iraola is a good right back. Younger and better than Salgado, i would say
I don't like Aragones, but he's not. He just call Henry "black", he didn't call him monkey, animal, or something like that. Is it an offense? If I were black I'll be very proud if somebody call me black.
Ah, he's a crap coach.
He called him a 'black shit'. If thats not racist, what is?
I hope he rots in hell
Jesus Navas should posibly be in the team. I'd prefer him over Joaquin right now. There's too few side midfielders anyway.
who cares what he said he is a racist cunt
who cares what he said he is a racist cunt Well if he didn't say anything then surely no one would be saying he's a racist?
Well if he didn't say anything then surely no one would be saying he's a racist?
woteva man, i cnt be bothered to explain myself
nickpring
19-05-2006, 16:38
That team is pants. Where are Oleguer, Yeste, and Iraola?
Fernando Morientes? Why????????????? How many goals has Morientes scored this season? How many games has he played? Morientes is a good player but not a World cup player!!!
oleguer is shit, he proved that, wednesday night.
Malagacf
22-05-2006, 09:53
He called him a 'black shit'. If thats not racist, what is?
I hope he rots in hell
This is the last I'm going to defend Aragones, but, it's all in the sense of translation and the way you are saying something, in Spain nobody thinks he's racist, 'cause we understand spanish, and we understood what he said.
I think he would do well at a slightly lesser club, probably Espanyol as I don't think he's bound to leave Catalunya.
I think he would do well at a slightly lesser club, probably Espanyol as I don't think he's bound to leave Catalunya.
That's brilliant. Although, i doubt even Espanyol would want him...:laugh:
Didn't Aragones say something concerning bananas?
Que es lo que dijo exactamente, Malagueno?
Malagacf
22-05-2006, 15:06
http://tvazteca.com.mx/deportes/especiales/alemania06/2006/04/110245.jpg
You have a bigger banana than Henry!!!
fattyronaldo
22-05-2006, 17:24
http://tvazteca.com.mx/deportes/especiales/alemania06/2006/04/110245.jpg
You have a bigger banana than Henry!!!
So banana means 'black shit' in spanish? :laugh:
Malagacf
23-05-2006, 08:19
So banana means 'black shit' in spanish? :laugh:
Well, some shits look like a banana, and I suppose Henry's one is black:D http://www.nilsstaerk.dk/rodland/nsca05/banana_black.jpg
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