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greenegg
25-07-2006, 09:33
Seen a few Argyle-ites around this here site recently so in preparation for the new season I thought as we are a big team now that I would get the thread off the ground. It's just a place to come and chat about all things Argyle. If all Argyle fans can make themselves known aswell I would be grateful.
Friendly against Yeovil tonight 7:45pm first home game under Olly and with the new team.
GREEN ARMY
Only a narrow loss against Real Madrid the other day.
Not too shabby, because my Grandad works for the chairman and is a season ticket holder i've got a bit of a soft spot for Argyle, plus it's a really nice place to go too. So I might hang around this thread a bit and post some stuff.....might
I felt it was right to let Greenegg start this up...otherwise we would all be pretenders!!
Plymouth will be my second officially supported team!! LOL! And 1-0 to Real MAdrid...on a penalty...not bad at all!! They just have to stop the in-fighting!!
Viperized
25-07-2006, 10:16
Who scored the penalty for Real Madrid?
If all Argyle fans can make themselves known aswell I would be grateful.
GREEN ARMY
I can lend you a tenner Greenegg, then you can buy them all a pint
But I want the change - to buy some cigarettes
I can lend you a tenner Greenegg, then you can buy them all a pint
:laugh:
Who scored the penalty for Real Madrid?
Baptista
greenegg
25-07-2006, 18:35
Good stuff so far, ads and nturtle seem sensib;e and have picked a good team to semi support and as for Huw.....dont get me started on. I'm off out again now to wwatch the Pilgrims at Home Park I will post up match report afterwards and let everyone know how good the players seem.
Bravoboy
25-07-2006, 18:39
Your own Plymouth thread, lucky bassa!
I wish some more Brighton fans would turn up on this site, then I could make a thread for us.
I sort of follow Plymouth! no shit homie, I met a few lasses and two lads in Boro one night and they were from Plymouth and me and my mates sort of kept in touch. God knows why.
FookinChef
25-07-2006, 22:21
I fucking love the plimuff, Shhhhooooot. 2-0 beat yeovil
JamMasterJoe
25-07-2006, 22:45
I'm from the plymouth so i support the green army. heres another member of the official argyle thread please.
egg tell me how the new boys SEB and bazza played mate
pes_godfather
25-07-2006, 22:45
ERM SORRY BUT I NEVER FOUND OUT THE SCORE WITH REAL MADRID !!!!!!
what was it ??????????
greenegg
25-07-2006, 22:50
Madrid one with a dodgy late penalty.
Today Argyle beat Yeovil 2-0.
Hayles looked class and scored a nice goal with an excellent assist from Djordjic.
SEB looked good and pacey and will do well next season.
Aljofree captained the team in Wottsy's absence and was deservedley MOM with some great challenges and some raking passes.
Chadders got the other goal after some great work from Reid.
Ebad was fucking fast and looked a bit of threat so perhaps signing him after his trial may be a good idea
All in all a good run out for the lads and a few reserves had a go which is all good.
Holloway was class as always and now the future is bright the future is green.
Dr_Tom01
25-07-2006, 23:43
I'm here to pledge my loyalty to the plymouth argyle thread egg, good result today. I'll post my old mickey evans sig later.
greenegg
25-07-2006, 23:47
Haha Dr T, Trigger gone but never forgotten. Bring on Wolves on August the 5th.
It's good to see someone like Holloway in to make it all come together. I reckon top half of the table if they can pull themselves together.
Who are the new striking options now? I think Mickey's gone right?
Totally irrelevant to the real football team but I took over Plymouth job on Footy Manager last night :unsure:
Totally irrelevant to the real football team but I took over Plymouth job on Footy Manager last night :unsure:
For some reason...I took Plymouth as my team in ALL footy simulations...especially to play my brother who adopted Nottingham Forest!! It was fun watching out teams battling it out!
Currently, Wotton is my top player in FM2006 and I've sold McCormick...so...it shows you that it IS relevant...McCormick apparently started a fight / brawl with Wotton I think....my selling of the played really quelled any in-figting in the fantasy world!! HAHA! :laugh:
For some reason...I took Plymouth as my team in ALL footy simulations...especially to play my brother who adopted Nottingham Forest!! It was fun watching out teams battling it out!
Currently, Wotton is my top player in FM2006 and I've sold McCormick...so...it shows you that it IS relevant...McCormick apparently started a fight / brawl with Wotton I think....my selling of the played really quelled any in-figting in the fantasy world!! HAHA! :laugh:
i managed to sign Djorou on loan, only started it late last night, won my first friendly 2-1 against Charlton and haven't played any more games since.
Count me in Egg, nice start from the boys, need that against Wolves:)
So how does everyone think Ebanks-Blake will do for the Pilgrims?
So how does everyone think Ebanks-Blake will do for the Pilgrims?
Very good question...I know nothing about the lad at all... :no:
Very good question...I know nothing about the lad at all... :no:
well i haven't heard much of him and with him being at United i'd have thought he might have scored a couple in a cup match or something?
nath_scfc
26-07-2006, 12:04
Haha Dr T, Trigger gone but never forgotten. Bring on Wolves on August the 5th.
I so want you to win your first game of the season.
I'm like Bravo, desperate for some Stokies to get on here so we can berate other Championship teams in our thread.
It's not meant to be...
:no:
I so want you to win your first game of the season.
I'm like Bravo, desperate for some Stokies to get on here so we can berate other Championship teams in our thread.
It's not meant to be...
:no:
Nath I will join your thread - you are a fellow Midlander and not from Wolverhampton so I would contribute. I cant promise to always be constructive though
greenegg
26-07-2006, 23:41
It's good to see someone like Holloway in to make it all come together. I reckon top half of the table if they can pull themselves together.
Who are the new striking options now? I think Mickey's gone right?
Trigger has gone to Torquay and now we have Barry Hayles, SEB, Zebrowski, Chadders and Reid. Possibly Ibad if we can arrange this and he looks handy.
For some reason...I took Plymouth as my team in ALL footy simulations...especially to play my brother who adopted Nottingham Forest!! It was fun watching out teams battling it out!
Currently, Wotton is my top player in FM2006 and I've sold McCormick...so...it shows you that it IS relevant...McCormick apparently started a fight / brawl with Wotton I think....my selling of the played really quelled any in-figting in the fantasy world!! HAHA! :laugh:
Zebrowski was the one who brawled with Wottsy. I think he will be leaving soon the disrespectful shit.
greenegg
26-07-2006, 23:43
So how does everyone think Ebanks-Blake will do for the Pilgrims?
Man yoo fans rated him quite highly and from the small bits I have seen and heard he seems promising. He is only 20ish and has pace and skill that Holloway will shirley nurture.
Dr_Tom01
26-07-2006, 23:45
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y221/tom_the_actual_dr/more%20wwf/mickeyevans.jpg
Looking forward to Leeds v Plymouth clashes next season.:ninja:
mufcsean
26-07-2006, 23:46
I hope plymouth do well this season good look to them
Looking forward to Leeds v Plymouth clashes next season.:ninja:
Who are Leeds ?
Who are Leeds ?
They are the team that are going to win the Championship next season.;)
Plymouth second of course.:happy:
They are the team that are going to win the Championship next season.;)
Plymouth second of course.:happy:
I will bet you 5000 points of PESInsight money that Birmingham finish higher than both
greenegg
26-07-2006, 23:54
I will bet you 5000 points of PESInsight money that Birmingham finish higher than both
Huw I am deadly serious here and I will wager we will finish higheer than the Brum. Also West Brom or Southampton to take the league as much as I hate to say it
I will bet you 5000 points of PESInsight money that Birmingham finish higher than both
I bet you 25 of my points because that is all i have that Leeds will finish above Birmingham, and so will Plymouth.;)
greenegg
26-07-2006, 23:54
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y221/tom_the_actual_dr/more%20wwf/mickeyevans.jpg
Class mate, Legend
Huw I am deadly serious here and I will wager we will finish higheer than the Brum. Also West Brom or Southampton to take the league as much as I hate to say it
What happened to the Leeds first, Plymouth second plan Greenegg? :happy:
You are both on and Greenegg West Brom wont win the elague nor will Southampton. If its not us it will be Norwich, Ipswich or Sunderland.
greenegg
27-07-2006, 00:02
You are both on and Greenegg West Brom wont win the elague nor will Southampton. If its not us it will be Norwich, Ipswich or Sunderland.
Haha welcome back to the CCC West Brom look quality and Southampton will be a suprise with a great manager and a decent team coming together. I also believe Brum will be up there but Ipswich and Norwich will struggle. Sunderland need time to settle after a recent buy out thing. We will finsih top half and I am not 100% but I will say above Brum just for a challenge.
Haha welcome back to the CCC West Brom look quality and Southampton will be a suprise with a great manager and a decent team coming together. I also believe Brum will be up there but Ipswich and Norwich will struggle. Sunderland need time to settle after a recent buy out thing. We will finsih top half and I am not 100% but I will say above Brum just for a challenge.
Lol if you finish above us you will be promoted - you ready for that ?
greenegg
27-07-2006, 00:06
No Huw if we finish above you it will be because Potato Bruce will fuck up and some of your big named players wont like the League. Also we will have to have an outstanding season to achieve this but I believe.
Trigger has gone to Torquay and now we have Barry Hayles, SEB, Zebrowski, Chadders and Reid. Possibly Ibad if we can arrange this and he looks handy.
Zebrowski was the one who brawled with Wottsy. I think he will be leaving soon the disrespectful shit.
Aahh...thanks for clarifying Greenegg - well...that kinda sucks...I suppose youngsters have a LOT to learn these days...do they never have ANY schooling these days?!?!?!? Loyalty, manners, using your brain...a few key things you
Ibad? Mmmm..I'm going to have to keep up to date if I'm going to be any use in this thread!! No idea who that is! :no:
greenegg
27-07-2006, 20:01
Ibad is a trialist we had for a few game sand he looks quite useful so I think we are waiting for our Chairman to return from his hols and then we will start trying to work out a deal
Ahh...gotcha... From Football FC
Plymouth Argyle are closing in on the signature of Cercle Bruges striker Ibad Muhamadu.
The 24-year-old is currently on trial with the Pilgrims and impressed after coming off the bench at half-time during Tuesday's 2-0 friendly victory against Yeovil Town.
Argyle manager Ian Holloway is now keen to seal a deal as soon as possible, having earlier agreed a fee for the proposed transfer with the Belgian club.
Holloway said: "I had to agree a fee to get Ibad over here and now I've got to sit down with everybody and sort something out.
"I thought he was bright and you can tell he has played at a higher level."
Football League Championship
From the BBC 17/7 (a bit late I suppose)
Almeida handed trial with Argyle
Plymouth manager Ian Holloway has taken Portuguese central defender Mauro Almeida on trial.
The 24-year-old, whose last club was Dutch outfit FC Zwolle, has flown out with the Pilgrims for a week-long training camp in Austria.
Holloway is keen to add a defender to his squad and also intends to give a trial to Aziz Ben Askar.
The French defender is known by Holloway as he managed him when he was boss at QPR in the 2001/02 season.
These blokes any good?
greenegg
28-07-2006, 18:50
Ibad wont be coming now and I never seen Almeida and think he isnt coming aswell
Mmm...damn....doesn't sound promising at all...but Holloway seems confident...maybe he should go for a few good loans instead.
greenegg
29-07-2006, 12:35
Last Night: The Gas 1 - 0 Argyle
ARGYLE manager Ian Holloway refused to be despondent after the Pilgrims ended their preparations for the new Coca-Cola Championship campaign with a 1-0 defeat by Bristol Rovers on Friday night.
A late second-half goal by Pirates' striker Richard Walker gave Holloway's old side victory over his latest one, and no-one could begrudge the League Two side their moment in the sun.
Only Real Madrid had previously beaten the Pilgrims in pre-season, a fact not lost on Bristolian Holloway.
"We've lost. So what?" said Holloway. "There's no points up for grabs. That makes Bristol Rovers as good as Real Madrid?and I'm very proud to say that.
"That was a great indicator for me of what we need to do. We didn't win enough headers up front and we didn't win enough headers at the back. I think that was blatantly obvious.
"Their two centre-forwards caused us the odd problem because they have played together for a couple of years now: I have got two strikers out of three that I have just bought and I need to bed them in."
Holloway believes that part of his side's failings were down to players trying to make an impression on the new manager by implementing his preferred methods too quickly.
"The way I look at it is I want to drip-feed in some of the things I want," said Holloway. "Tonight, they were so keen to impress me that they cut the bag and it all whooshed over the floor in the first half. It should be just drip, drip, drip.
"I spoke about one or two things that I want to try and drip-feed in, and the back four got it wrong a few times in the first half which seemed to unsettle them. By the second half, it was much better.
"What I'm pleased about is they are trying to please their guvnor and I can't ask for much more than that, but the reality is we need fans to come and pay their money to watch us.
"I don't think we played that poorly. I thought it was very tight and very close. [Bristol Rovers] were like men possessed - good luck to them; they are going to have to do that week in, week out next year.
"There were some fantastic performances. Bojan Djordjic looked to be back to what he can do - lifted us; I thought [Barry] Hayles coming on is a proper player; I'm awfully pleased with a lot of aspects of it.
"We've got to turn that potential into reality. That will take money and that will take bums on seats. I'm very excited about the area, how I can generate some excitement about performances.
"You have got to remain realistic, but optimistic and that will always be me.
"What I need to do is to add one or two in certain areas that can help us but I will take my time and work with who I've got.
"I haven't had that much money in the past, and I haven't always needed it. I've enjoyed bringing the people I have got here and I want to sort one or two other things out so I can coach them, so I can work with them, the way I want.
"I've given everybody a chance to play them in their natural position, and I am confident I know what I need to add to these boys.
"I am very, very encouraged with the lads we have got and what we are going to eventually put together. It's going to take time. I've only been here two minutes. If this is a 24-hour clock, the alarm hasn't even gone off yet."
Djordic is terrible in my FM2006 game...hope he cuts the mustard properly this season! Thanks for the report Greenegg.
Who are the Gas ? I am still not sure who Plymouth are and who the hell is Greenegg ?
greenegg
30-07-2006, 19:42
Who are the Gas ? I am still not sure who Plymouth are and who the hell is Greenegg ?
The Gas are wank, Plymouth are the greatest team to never play in the top flight and greenegg is a Pele of Devon.
The Gas are wank, Plymouth are the greatest team to never play in the top flight and greenegg is a Pele of Devon.
When you say Pele of Devon - do you mean a Pele relative to the other players in Devon which would include Plymouth Argyle ? If so I could very believe you
greenegg
30-07-2006, 19:48
When you say Pele of Devon - do you mean a Pele relative to the other players in Devon which would include Plymouth Argyle ? If so I could very believe you
Yes I play alot like Pele if you take in to account the way the Pilgrims play. Laugh all you like Huwbert next season when we take 4 out of 6 points from you I know you wont be laughing
Yes I play alot like Pele if you take in to account the way the Pilgrims play. Laugh all you like Huwbert next season when we take 4 out of 6 points from you I know you wont be laughing
Calm down Eggbut no bacon the only reason I can laugh is cos were cack too
Jonno394
30-07-2006, 20:02
next season when we take 4 out of 6 points from you I know you wont be laughing
What the fuck are you talking about gash?
greenegg
30-07-2006, 20:02
Djordic is terrible in my FM2006 game...hope he cuts the mustard properly this season! Thanks for the report Greenegg.
Djordjic is quality in real life mate. He is a proper wide winger and sticks out on the wing which is what we need. He has pace and skill but just needs to get his final ball consistent and we will be laughing
Djordjic is quality in real life mate. He is a proper wide winger and sticks out on the wing which is what we need. He has pace and skill but just needs to get his final ball consistent and we will be laughing
You want to stick with him. In a years time Liverpool will give you a stupid amount of money and claim him to be the best winger in the history of world football cos he sounds better than skill, but no pace and very inconsistent final ball Pennant
greenegg
30-07-2006, 20:07
You want to stick with him. In a years time Liverpool will give you a stupid amount of money and claim him to be the best winger in the history of world football cos he sounds better than skill, but no pace and very inconsistent final ball Pennant
:laugh: If Liverpool buy a player he must be world class, look at Traore and Diouf
Sounds like a deflection own goal was the difference Greenegg! Dammit...but it's a promising sign...Wolves I think are still relatively stong? Any thoughts on the game?
That Plymouth goal had to be offside, but then again Wolves goal was a fluke so a draw looked about right - but then again I only saw the highlights.
greenegg
06-08-2006, 22:19
Huw and Turtle we were the better team and what do you mean the goal was offside? Hayles or Chadwick? Also we made about 5-6 chances and Wolves made 2. Wolves were quite poor and if not for that Murray keeper we would have had 3 or 4. There are alot of positives to take from today and my MOTM was Wotton he was all over the place.
Wolves are useless so I would say that was two points dropped by you lot yesterday, I really think Mick McCarthy will ahve a fight on his hands to even finish mid table.
greenegg
06-08-2006, 22:23
I was at the game Huw and I would say it was 2 points dropped aswell,ref was a cunt and Wolves came for the draw.
I was at the game Huw and I would say it was 2 points dropped aswell,ref was a cunt and Wolves came for the draw.
Wolves have had over 40 league draws in the past two seasons so what did you expect. Like the comment about the ref though - you can support Man Utd or Liverpool if you keep that up.
greenegg
06-08-2006, 22:29
Wolves have had over 40 league draws in the past two seasons so what did you expect. Like the comment about the ref though - you can support Man Utd or Liverpool if you keep that up.
Yea you are right despite the ref we should have still taken the game
Yea you are right despite the ref we should have still taken the game
Or you could manage us - Bruce has already started moaning about desicions not going our way
greenegg
08-08-2006, 22:38
Colchester 0-1 Argyle
A TEENAGE dream debut for Luke Summerfield earned unbeaten Argyle their first three-point haul under Ian Holloway.
The 18-year-old midfielder announced his arrival on the Championship stage by marking his full senior debut with a splendid long-range goal just before the half-hour
The maintaining of a fine Argyle family tradition with Argyle's first successful strike away from home for eight games, gave Argyle an away win for the first time since goodness knows when, but it was far from easy.
Argyle cleared from their line twice and hit the bar, and Argyle needed to be resolute and single-minded to keep out a sustained assault by last season's League Two runners-up.
Holloway had backed up his fine words about Summerfield in the wake of Saturday's home draw against Wolves - and, indeed, pretty well since the new manager has been in situ - by handing the Ivybridge teenager his full debut in place of injured French midfielder Lilian Nalis.
Summerfield is the son of former Pilgrim Kevin, the current Sheffield Wednesday assistant manager, and, like his old man, plays in central midfield. There is plenty of dad in the young'un, and if last night's debut marks the beginning of a career as productive as that of Summerfield senior, then more headlines await.
One way or another, Summerfield will remember Colchester: it was against the Essex men that he made his first ever senior appearance, as a substitute on the ultimate day of the season before last, then not yet 16 and a half.
Nalis remained at Home Park on crutches as the result of his unequal struggle with Wolves gargantuan goalkeeper Matt Murray, and looks a doubtful participant for the weekend's visit to Sunderland.
Otherwise, Holloway remained faithful to his first ever Argyle selection, which meant that potential record signing Sylvan Ebanks-Blake still awaits his first Pilgrims' start.
There were two other noteworthy selections among the substitutes, where Reuben Reid, another teenager, was again named as a replacement, alongside - for the first time in an Argyle first-team squad - young defender Sawyer, fresh from a two-year loan at ExeterCity.
Colchester, who gained much credit but no points from an opening-day defeat at Birmingham, were unchanged from the 11 that started at St Andrews.
Sadly, that meant no place for former Argyle hero Marino Keith, who will forever be revered at Home Park as the striker whose goals clinched the Third Division title five seasons ago.
Sadly, 'Dan' has suffered from a recurrent ankle injury more or less since his move to Layer Road a year and a bit ago, which has limited his Us' appearances to a mere dozen games. Typical of the gentleman that he is, the genial Scot is bearing up to his misfortune with a smile, but it is a crying shame to see the man likened to a "marauding cowie" by Paul Sturrock hobbling around with his foot in a pot instead of terrorising defences.
Argyle enjoyed a huge slice of luck in the opening five minutes after Mathias Kouo-Doumbe allowed Richard Garcia to get the better of him just outside the Argyle area and unleashed a powerful shot that rebounded from the angle of crossbar and Luke McCormick's right-hand post.
McCormick redeemed the situation with a splendid reflex save to beat away Jamie Cureton's follow-up header for a corner, but the danger only completely subsided when Greg Halford stabbed Johnnie Jackson's subsequent narrowly wide.
Argyle seemed overwhelmed by Colchester's intent and the tight little Layer Road ground, and a deflected long-range shot from David Norris provided only brief respites from the Us' pressure.
Karl Duguid was next to profit from some indecisive defending, stealing in behind the back line to beat McCormick to the ball and send a looping header dropping into the goal. Only the intervention of Hasney Aljofree, with a perfectly judged clearing header from right on the goal-line, kept the Pilgrims on level terms.
When Argyle did keep the ball for any length of time, they showed a composure which contrasted favourably to Colchester's more rumbustuous approach, as one sweet right-flank move which nearly fell for Nick Chadwick showed. The trouble was, they did not keep the ball for as long as Holloway would have liked.
Then, out of the blue, the debutant struck. Norris deserves big licks for a swift pivot and cross into the box from the right which obliged Wayne Brown to head clear under pressure. Summerfield controlled the ball on the edge of the area, picked his spot, and fired it low past goalkeeper Aidan Davison's right hand.
Luke Summerfield celebrates
That the goal was against the balance of play was undeniable, but, after dominating Wolves three days earlier and winning only a share of the spoils, Argyle could hardly have cared less.
The bolt from the black understandably stunned the home side, and it took them a while to find their stride again. Find it, they did, though, and Paul Wotton replicated Aljofree's earlier heroics by nodding Cureton's goalbound header off the goal-line, with McCormick beaten.
The half-time whistle must have been music to Westcountry ears, and if 11 pairs had suffered a bashing in the away dressing-room during the break, it might explain why Chadwick and Barry Hayles saw more of the ball in the opening few minutes of the second half than they had done in the entire first.
Chadwick's left-wing cross to Norris was well defended at the last moment by George Elokobi, while Hayles' unselfish act in attempting to set up Chadwick was undone by his partner's shared expectation with everyone in the ground that the veteran forward was going to let loose himself.
Colchester countered this slight turning of the tide by replacing the diminutive Kem Izzett with the 6ft 4in Chris Iwelumo, which increased the home side's advantage over the Pilgrims to an average of at least two inches per man and gave a clear clue as to their future intent.
Holloway, as he had done at the weekend, introduced Ebanks-Blake in place of Chadwick around the hour, and Sawyer for the goal-hero a few minutes later. Sawyer took his place at left-back, allowing Tony Capaldi to move forward and Lee Hodges to shuffle into the centre of midfield.
It was time for stout hearts and brave defending from the Pilgrims, but those hearts must have been in mouths when Hodges conceded a free-kick in a dangerous position and Jackson's curled attempt landed on the roof of Argyle's net.
Colchester sustained their assault on the Argyle goal, chucking the ball in the mixer and hoping it fell with kindness at the feet of their now three-man strike-force; Argyle blocked with whatever body part they could. Aljofree might have been perilously close to using his hands when Cureton burst through the centre of the Pilgrims' defence, but his important intervention was ruled legal.
Aljofree almost relieved the pressure with a drive from outside the box following a late free-kick which Argyle sent up three other players for, but Davison got everything behind it.
Four minutes of added time did little for the Holloway heart-rate, especially when referee Russell Booth would not allow Bojan Djordjic back on to the field after treatment for what seemed a couple of eons, but Argyle hung on to Summerfield's nice little earner.
Colchester United (4-4-2): 1 Aidan Davison; 2 Greg Halford, 12 Pat Baldwin (19 Garry Richards 54), 5 Wayne Brown, 16 George Elokobi; 10 Kemal Izzet (11 Chris Iwelumo 54), 6 Kevin Watson, 4 Johnnie Jackson, 7 Karl Duiguid; 8 Jamie Cureton, 14 Richard Garcia. Substitutes (not used): 3 John White, 13 Dean Gerken (gk), 15 Jamie Guy.
Bookings: Elokobi 89, Garcia 90.
Argyle (4-4-2): 23 Luke McCormick; 22 Paul Connolly, 6 Hasney Aljofree, 13 Mathias Kouo-Doumbe, 14 Tony Capaldi (32 Bojan Djordjic 77); 7 David Norris, 15 Paul Wotton (capt), 29 Luke Summerfield (18 Gary Sawyer 61), 20 Lee Hodges; 10 Barry Hayles, 11 Nick Chadwick (9 Sylvan Ebanks-Blake 59). Substitutes (not used): 2 Anthony Barness, 27 Reuben Reid.
Bookings: Connolly 36, Hayles 59, Capaldi 68, McCormick 71.
Referee: Russell Booth (Nottinghamshire).
Attendance: 4,627 (300 away, est.).
greenegg
08-08-2006, 22:41
Just found a picture from Saturday of Hayles and he looks a bit like a clown...
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/kingegg/010364296336100.jpg
Bravoboy
08-08-2006, 22:42
Good win this evening lads.
Nice win Greenegg - away points are always welcome
Just found a picture from Saturday of Hayles and he looks a bit like a clown...
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/kingegg/010364296336100.jpg
You should have gone to Specsavers
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9529/imagesao0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
greenegg
08-08-2006, 22:50
Good win this evening lads.
Same for the Seagulls matey I always liked taking points off you :tongue:
Nice win Greenegg - away points are always welcome
Especially for us who in the last two seasons have only one about 5 away haha
What score was it
:unsure: Do you read....
greenegg
08-08-2006, 22:54
Ian Holloway doing some comedy or maybe even karaoke
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/kingegg/2006_0801IH0019.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/kingegg/2006_0801IH0016.jpg
mufcsean
08-08-2006, 22:59
Sorry mate, i didnt notice that, i will delete that post sorry, good win for the Argyle
Cannon ball
08-08-2006, 23:02
May they go up to the Premiership, good win away and unlucky to only draw at home. I've taken a liking to this team, they risen from nothing to almost outside the Premiership, what an acheivement, good luck Plymouth!
greenegg
08-08-2006, 23:05
Sorry mate, i didnt notice that, i will delete that post sorry, good win for the Argyle
You better delete it and apologise to me via a letter :tongue:
May they go up to the Premiership, good win away and unlucky to only draw at home. I've taken a liking to this team, they risen from nothing to almost outside the Premiership, what an acheivement, good luck Plymouth!
Best team to have never played in the top flight. Nice sentiments aswell mate if all Premiership fans can use us as there lower league team I will be a happy bunny
greenegg
09-08-2006, 23:37
First goal of the season against Wolves on Saturday from Big Baz but look at Chadders try nicking it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v71_yI8vs1E
greenegg
11-08-2006, 22:52
Goal from Tuesday, Summerfields first goal on his first start and what a hit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oQoG3LVMww
greenegg
12-08-2006, 17:52
Sunderland 2-3 ARGYLE :w00t
Sounded like a decent game and seemed we played quite well. 700 made the trip which isnt too bad a turn out.
Sunderland 2
Murphy 1, Elliott 68
Argyle 3
Norris 8, Hayles 39, Chadwick 82
IT was always asking for trouble to nominate Saturday at the Stadium of Light as Green Day as Argyle put the kybosh on what was intended to be a celebratory homecoming for Niall Quinn.
A goal by Nick Chadwick nine minutes from the end of a pulsating encounter gave the Pilgrims their second successive victory on the road in a week and maintained Ian Holloway's unbeaten start to life at Home Park.
The Pilgrims overcame a horrendous start to their longest away trip of the season when Daryl Murphy netted in the first 30 seconds to equalise within minutes through David Norris and earn a half-time lead when Barry Hayles netted his second goal of the season.
A Sunderland equaliser midway through the second half threatened to deprive Argyle of only a second ever win on Wearside, but supersub Chadwick decided otherwise.
Argyle manager Holloway had handed a full debut to the man who will probably turn out to be the club's record incomer when all the add-ons from his summer transfer from Manchester United are?well, added on.
Sylvan Ebanks-Blake has previously had to make do with a half-hour from the bench in each of the Pilgrims' opening two Coca-Cola Championship matches, replacing Chadwick against Wolves and Colchester. This time, the swap was made before referee Ray Olivier's first whistle.
Otherwise, the starting line-up was the same that had laid the platform for Tuesday's 1-0 win at Layer Road, with teenage midfielder and debutant goalscorer Luke Summerfield retaining his place in central midfield instead of injured Frenchman Lilian Nalis, and Tony Capaldi and Lee Hodges continuing to play as seamlessly interchaging left-backs/left-wingers.
There was one other, eye-catching, change to the Argyle squad, with Hungarian playmaker Akos Buzsaky back on the team-sheet, albeit among the substitutes, after his long absence through a stomach injury that required a summer operation.
Sunderland manager-owner jack of all trades Quinn had threatened to include new signing Arnau Riera, the former Barcelona B captain, in his midfield but decided to stick with Dean Whitehead and Grant Leadbitter.
An injury to captain Steven Caldwell did allow Quinn to find room for another recent acquisition, the former West Ham defender Clive Clarke, in a back line which also contained the experience of Kenny Cunningham and Rory Delap. Clarke lasted less than a quarter of the game before he was substituted with a groin problem.
Around 700 members of the Green Army had made the journey to one of the most impressive stadia in the Championship, some leaving from Home Park at 5am - the saw about it being better to travel than to arrive must have found plenty of resonance within 30 seconds of the kick-off.
By then, the Pilgrims were a goal down to Sunderland's first attack of the game, Tommy Miller hooking the ball on to Daryl Murphy, who outflanked Mathias Kouo-Doumbe on Agyle's right side, drove into the area, and fired low past Luke McCormick.
At Derby last season, a similar goal at a similar time from a similar position had ultimately proved the difference between the two sides, so the prospect of a long afternoon to precede the long-haul back home loomed large.
However, despite the goal disadvantage, Argyle settled much better than their hosts and staged a quick riposte through Norris, who, after a quiet start to the season, burst into life on Wearside.
The player of last season has been criticised for not getting on the scoresheet often enough but, if he keeps up his one-in-three average so far this campaign, no-one will have any complaints and Premiership clubs will be looking up Ian Holloway's mobile number.
Capaldi was the creator of the equaliser, sending a high ball from the left across the face of the 18-yard box which the Sunderland defence obligingly decided not to clear, allowing its progress all the way to Norris, running in from deep, who sent a looping half-volley beyond goalkeeper Ben Alnwick.
Clarke withdrew, necessitating further changes to the home side's defence, and Argyle came close to taking advantage of the reorganisation when Norris sent in another shot that was deflected past a wrong-footed Alnwick, who was grateful to see the ball trickle wide of the post.
Sunderland were largely incapable of creating much to hurt the Pilgrims, largely down to Liam Lawrence's inability to cross the ball to any effect from the right, although the number of attempts he was permitted to try must have concerned Holloway.
After Tuesday's backs-against-the-wall effort at Colchester, Argyle must have been relieved that Quinn's men never promised to put them under the same kind of pressure. The Pilgrims, for their part, did not waste the extra possession they worked hard to earn.
The Black Cats came close to regaining the lead when a corner form the left was allowed to reach Danny Collins in the middle of the goal, but the big blond centre-back volleyed narrowly over McCormick's crossbar.
Instead, it was Argyle who went ahead six minutes before the interval, when Cunningham sold Alnwick short with a shy pass back, allowing Hayles to nip in between the pair, steal the ball, round the goalkeeper, and curl the ball into the net despite Collins' best attempts to head clear.
Olivier's half-time whistle was greeted by a chorus of jeers from the half-full Stadium of Light, which must have sounded like music to the ears of Holloway and his Barmy Army.
They came close to ramming the black catcalls down the throats of the detractors during the opening exchanges of the second half when a right-wing corner was headed goalwards by the impressive Collins, only for the ball to be intercepted by the head of Paul Connolly just in front of the goal-line.
Hayles could have wrapped the points up minutes later when he got in behind the home defence, but he fired off a shot from a distance that allowed the well-positioned Alnwick to easily gather it.
Norris, too, had a shot well saved by Alnwick, after the all-action Argyle midfielder burst through from deep to volley goalwards, and Kouo-Doumbe, up for a corner, had a shot blocked as the Pilgrims piled on the pressure.
By midway through the second half, Quinn had used all his substitutes and had four strikers on the pitch in a sort of kitchen-sink formation, having introduced Jonathan Stead and Chris Brown from the bench in place of wide midfielders Lawrence and Miller.
It worked to the extent that Sunderland levelled soon afterwards when Murphy skinned Connolly on the Sunderland left and crossed for Elliott - one of the four and, up until that moment, largely invisible - to head home.
The old Roker Roar replaced the boos, and the Stadium of Light - and Argyle - rocked as the home fans finally got collectively behind their heroes. They nearly assisted a Brown header, but McCormick made a fantastic save, tipping the ball on to the crossbar.
With Sunderland striker-committed, Holloway set the Pilgrims up for a possible counter - Buzsaky and Chadwick coming on for Ebanks-Blake and Summerfield - but, for the first time since the first minute, Sunderland were playing with belief.
Argyle regained their composure and Buzsaky showed no ill effects from his lay-off, and, after being played in by Norris, side-stepped his way into a shooting position on the edge of the penalty area for a fierce drive that was pushed aside by Alnwick for a corner.
With ten minutes to go, Argyle went back in front after again taking advantage of some woeful home defending. This time Chadwick profited as Collins, facing his known goal, waited for a long ball over the top to drop.
The Pilgrims' substitute muscled his way past Colljns, jumping past him and collecting the ball on his chest - with hands in close proximity - and keeping composed to pass the ball into the net.
Sunderland (4-4-2): 1 Ben Alnwick; 4 Rory Delap, 5 Kenny Cunningham, 15 Danny Collins, 22 Clive Clarke (2 Stephen Wright 20); 14 Tommy Miller (20 Chris Brown 64), 8 Dean Whitehead, 23 Grant Leadbitter, 7 Liam Lawrence (9 Jonathan Stead 58); 11 Daryl Murphy, 10 Stephen Elliott. Substitutes (not used): 13 Darren Ward (gk), 25 Neil Collins.
Bookings:
Argyle (4-4-2): 23 Luke McCormick; 22 Paul Connolly, 6 Hasney Aljofree, 13 Mathias Kouo-Doumbe, 14 Tony Capaldi; 7 David Norris, 15 Paul Wotton (capt), 29 Luke Summerfield (8 Akos Buzsaky 72), 20 Lee Hodges; 10 Barry Hayles, 9 Sylvan Ebanks-Blake (11 Nick Chadwick 72). Substitutes (not used): 18 Gary Sawyer, 27 Reuben Reid, 32 Bojan Djordjic.
Bookings:
Referee: Ray Olivier (West midlands).
Attendance: 24,377 (700 away est.)
The future is bright. The future is green
greenegg
12-08-2006, 17:56
The future is bright. The future is green
:w00t Yeah I hope so Huw but I have seen this before and we will probably get back to mediocrity soon. Buzsaky was back today which is class and hopefully we can keep building
:w00t Yeah I hope so Huw but I have seen this before and we will probably get back to mediocrity soon. Buzsaky was back today which is class and hopefully we can keep building
Well although what I heard on the radio may not be the best write up Plymouth ever get (in fact all they did was highlight Sunderland's weaknesses) things are certainly looking good for the men from the South West. Sunderland will come good I am sure, so whatever anyone says, that was a good result and youve already shown me that you arent just a small team that are there for the taking.
greenegg
12-08-2006, 18:03
Good to see some people take notice. The media always have a dig at us mate and are forever getting players names wrong or posting up pics captioned with wrong names it makes me laugh. Also about them highlighting Sunderlands weaknesses rather than our football be it good or bad it often happens and most people put these results down as a blip and hjust try ignoring them.
FookinChef
12-08-2006, 18:05
sunderland probably thought they had this match already won but the pilgrims just marched in and grabbed 3 points. we will cause a few more shocks this season aswell mark my words
Well whatever they say (the press) its obvious that it is not just a case of playing Plymouth and picking up 3 points. Not may teams are going to want to visit you - then again you seem to be doing better away from home
mufcsean
12-08-2006, 18:07
Congratulations that is an excellent result, well done
greenegg
12-08-2006, 18:30
If we can turn Home Park into a fortress like we did when we were lower league and then pick up the odd win or draw away we will make the Premiership but this is a long way off at the moment
Barry Hayles scored again, i hope Chadwick didn`t try to steal it again.
Well done Plymouth! Actually, I'm really quite surprised teenager Summerfield is playing a major part so early...good news for him...the Plymouth "Cesc" maybe?!?! Sounds like Ebanks-Blake is a good buy! And good to see Buzaky and Norris getting back into the mix. A good start finally.
Heh...Poor Sunderland...my boss supports them...I hope they get a better result against another Championship team.
If we can turn Home Park into a fortress like we did when we were lower league and then pick up the odd win or draw away we will make the Premiership but this is a long way off at the moment
Nice thought Egg but dont get carried away, The Premiership is a world away money wise, we have a good start but would need a lot more investment on and off the pitch to get in the top flight.
I will tell you what do piss me off is sky Sports, their coverage of the Sunderland game, all they go on about is how Sunderland were playing, Niall Quinn blah blah blah. Ok, Sunderland are a bigger club and have just come from the Prem, but Plymouth are an established Championship club and at the moment 3rd in the league and should get that reconision.
Anyway, great start Argyle keep it up
Paul Huntington has been given a trial by you lot.
We've got high hopes for him and could do with him given some first team experience.
Source http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=409764&CPID=10&clid=4&lid=&title=Pilgrims+trial+Magpie
benthehornet
17-08-2006, 12:23
Nice thought Egg but dont get carried away, The Premiership is a world away money wise, we have a good start but would need a lot more investment on and off the pitch to get in the top flight.
Last season we had no money and built a hard-working team of free transfers and youth players. Look where we are now.
Good luck Argyle.
greenegg
18-08-2006, 20:38
Goals from last Saturday, more to come tomorrow hopefully :w00t
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MfRClxCodQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnTVNvfPYlU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EKmN07dLgE
greenegg
20-08-2006, 11:53
Disgusting defending yesterday read on:
Argyle 1
Wotton pen 43
Sheffield Wednesday 2
McAllister 52, O'Brien 83
ARGYLE surrendered their unbeaten start to the season - and life under Ian Holloway - as former manager Paul Sturrock's predictably disciplined Wednesday staged a smash and grab raid at Home Park.
The Pilgrims breached their opponents' organized, virtually strikerless, formation only through skipper Paul Wotton's prodigious power from the penalty spot, after Barry Hayles had been fouled three minutes before half-time.
Sturrock, nor Argyle legend Graham Coughlan, was not to be denied, however.
Norris
A first ever goal from teenage striker Sean McAllister, just after the interval, and a beautiful winner from South African Burton O'Brien with seven minutes remaining gave the visitors their just deserts.
Holloway had made one change to the starting 11 that had paved the way for a memorable 3-2 victory at Sunderland seven days previously, recalling Stadium of (de)Light match-winner Nick Chadwick.
The former Everton man, who came off the bench to net the Pilgrims' third on Wearside, ten minutes from time, replaced Sylvan Ebanks-Blake, with who he has alternated all season.
Otherwise, the Argyle 16 on duty in Sunderland remained the same, with Holloway resisting the temptation to recall fit-again French midfielder Lilian Nalis even to the bench.
Luke Summerfield was retained as Nalis's on-field replacement, the teenager making his full home debut in front of his father Kevin, the Wednesday assistant manager.
Injury-hit Wednesday, too, made one change to their personnel, with Wade Small replacing injured forward Steve MacLean, one of five front-men more familiar with the Hillsborough physio room than the 18-yard area.
Small operated in a loan striking role, ahead of a five-man midfield in a line-up familiar to Argyle away fans between the years 2000-04. The opposition skipper and number five looked strangely recognizable.
Tony Capaldi
Argyle, who had conceded a goal inside 30 seconds on Wearside, nearly went behind early on again when Mathias Kouo-Doumbe allowed Small to brush past him on the chase for a long ball over the top. Small reached the ball ahead of Pilgrims' goalkeeper Luke McCormick but shot wildly high and wide.
Chadwick welcomed Graham Coughlan back to Home Park with a thunderous late tackle after the Argyle Team of the Century selection had dispossessed his former colleague. To the big Irishman's credit, he got up pretty quickly and shook accepted Chadwick's apologies.
Wednesday's already limited attacking options plumbed new depths when Small limped off after barely ten minutes to be replaced by rookie McAllister.
A sudden prolonged downpour made conditions impossible for a few minutes, during which Wednesday midfielder Glenn Whelan's risky penalty-area challenge on David Norris was deemed legal by referee Paul Melin. It was a close-run thing.
The rain stopped, to be replaced by bright sunshine (a typical Westcountry summer's day, in other words) but the game remained rather dull as a spectacle, not least of all because of Wednesday's negativity.
Wotton, reveling in the changeable conditions, came close to breaking the deadlock ten minutes before the break when he nearly caught Wednesday napping with a blistering free-kick from distance that zipped wide.
Wotton eventually smashed through Wednesday's stiff rearguard three minutes from half-time after Hayles's willingness to chase lost causes again paid dividends. Last week, his snapping at the opposition defensive line earned him a goal; this week it earned his side a penalty.
Pressure from Hayles forced Frank Simek into a rushed pass back to goalkeeper Brad Jones, who promptly smacked the ball into the Argyle striker. The two tussled just outside the right-hand side of the penalty area, with Jones clearly impeding Hayles as the ball broke goalwards.
What was not as obvious was whether the clash was inside the penalty area, but referee Paul Melin settled that one by consulting a linesman twice as far away from the incident as he was.
Melin also declined to send off Jones despite the next nearest player to the incident being Chadwick, well positioned to profit from any Hayles' pass.
Wotton Penalty
Argyle began the second half as they had the first - slowly - but this time Wednesday made them pay. Again Doumbe was caught out, drifting into a wide position and leaving the Pilgrims' short-handed when Burton O'Brien crossed into the area for McAllister to fire home.
The force was with the opposition and, seconds after Holloway had signaled his intent to grab the game by its scruff by sending on Akos Buzsaky for Capaldi, Chris Brunt fired off a shot which was deflected just wide.
Bojan Djordjic, who had a loan spell at Wednesday while he was a Manchester United player, was added to the Pilgrims' mix immediately afterwards, with Holloway obviously seeking the width needed to break down Wednesday's disciplined resistance.
Argyle played some nice football but Wednesday looked the more dangerous. McAllister, playing with some confidence after his debut strike, played in Brunt who was unlucky to see his lob beat McCormick but land on top of the crossbar.
Sylvan Ebanks-Blake completed Holloway's dealing from the bench, the Pilgrims' record signing replacing Chadwick, but it was Wednesday who fashioned a winner from an unlikely source.
As Argyle hurled themselves forward, Wednesday broke quickly and the ball was eventually played in by Kenny Lunt to O'Brien, who took the ball on his chest and poked it past McCormick.
Wednesday Fans
Ebanks-Blake was twice close to rescuing a point but was denied by a fantastic save by Jones at the foot of his post, following Buzsaky's swinging free-kick, and then fired agonisingly wide.
To compound the Pilgrims' misery, Hayles hit the bar in injury-time as Wednesday clung on for dear life and Ebanks-Blake headed over when well positioned in the centre of the goal.
Argyle (4-4-2): 23 Luke McCormick; 22 Paul Connolly, 13 Mathias Kouo-Doumbe, 6 Hasney Aljofree, 14 Tony Capaldi (8 Akos Buzsaky 59); 7 David Norris, 15 Paul Wotton (captain), 29 Luke Summerfield (32 Bojan Djordjic 60), 20 Lee Hodges; 10 Barry Hayles, 11 Nick Chadwick (9 Sylvan Ebanks-Blake 72). Substitutes: 18 Gary Sawyer, 27 Reuben Reid.
Bookings: Aljofree 24.
Sheffield Wednesday (4-5-1): 1 Brad Jones (GK); 20 Frank Simek, 21 Madjid Bougherra, 5 Graham Coughlan (23 Rory McArdle 90), 32 Tommy Spurr; 4 Kenny Lunt (27 Luke Boden 90), 6 Glenn Whelan, 11 Chris Brunt, 8 Burton O'Brien, 14 John Hills; 15 Wade Small (33 Sean McAllister 11). Substitutes: 22 Chris Adamson (gk), 28 David McClements,
Bookings: Jones 43, Whelan 48, Simek 66.
Referee: Paul Melin (Surrey).
Attendance: 14,507 (1,257 away).
greenegg
20-08-2006, 12:03
The Gaffers view on yesterdays daftness:
ARGYLE manager Ian Holloway was left gutted by Argyle's 2-1 home defeat at the hands of Sheffield Wednesday.
Former Pilgrim boss Paul Sturrock brought his team to Home Park and won the game with two second half goals after a Paul Wotton penalty had given Argyle a 1-0 half-time lead.
Holloway was not too impressed with his team's defending for the two Wednesday goals, but still couldn't believe Argyle lost the game.
"I feel like I've been mugged really," said Holloway.
"I can't believe it - how they are going back up on the motorway with three points I don't know but that is just the way it is.
"I didn't like the defending for the second goal and we got a bit overloaded for the first goal.
"We do go a tad deep at times, which is how the previous manager [Tony Pulis] liked to defend but it is too deep for my liking."
Holloway introduced Akos Buzsaky, Bojan Djordjic and Sylvan Ebanks-Blake in an attempt to change the course of the game.
Ebanks-Blake went closest of the three but his late header was superbly saved by Australian goalkeeper Brad Jones.
"I threw my dice as well as I could and I don't know how I am not sat here with at least a point but that's football," said Holloway.
"I jumped out of my box at one time because I thought Sylvan (Ebanks-Blake) had got us the least of what we deserved,and that was a point.
"I don't know how he (Brad Jones) saved the header.
"I felt that we probably created more in the last ten minutes, and I've got two teams - a real solid team and a real flair team.
"If the flair team lets a goal in or the solid team can't break people down, then that isn't going to help me, so I need to try and get the balance right."
After the first defeat of the Holloway era, the manager is looking for his players to show more belief in themselves, and belief in his decisions.
New signing Barry Hayles, 34, has epitomized the attitude Holloway wants from his players after he gave another excellent performance in his brief, but hugely impressive Argyle career so far.
Holloway said: "I believe in everybody here and I have asked the players to go home and see if they do but, hopefully, they believe in what I say because we have to move on.
"You want new signings to believe in you and I thought he (Hayles) was absolutely outstanding, he has played every single minute and it doesn't matter how old you are if you have got hunger and desire - he was brilliant."
It was determined play from Hayles that led to Brad Jones' error and the subsequent penalty, but Holloway felt his team should have had a penalty earlier for a foul by Glenn Whelan on David Norris.
Holloway was also somewhat mythed that Jones was not shown a red card for his foul on Hayles when he was clearly the last man.
"I don't want to talk about penalties because I can't believe the one in the first-half; I am absolutely seething," said Holloway.
"I asked my player (Norris) to take a gamble, and he knocked it past their player (Whelan) and got booted in the box, clear as day.
"What more do you need to be a penalty and they (Wednesday bench) are shouting and bawling at me about how can you give the second one?
"I don't want anybody sent-off but if he (Jones) wasn't the last man then who was? Let's be fair, it was going to be a goal because Hayles was going to get there.
"Baz (Hayles) blocked and chased it, and deserved a goal and I don't know what on earth they are even shouting about."
Wotton Penalty
Holloway was also unhappy with the antics of former Pilgrim Graham Coughlan as he appeared to struggle with cramp for much of the second-half.
The Argyle boss felt that Sturrock will know that he has been very lucky to win the game.
"As for Cocko (Coughlan) lying around the box at the end, I thought they had gamesmanship all afternoon," said Holloway.
"(Sturrock is a) very wily and crafty old silver-haired fox and I wish he'd get on the bus and go home because he didn't deserve that and he knows it.
"No strikers isn't an excuse because he hardly plays with any strikers away from home anyway but I am gutted, absolutely devastated."
Holloway is now looking to strike a balance between his attacking and defensive options, especially after the disappointment of a home defeat on top of the opening day draw with Wolves.
He will be looking to put it right in the Carling Cup against Walsall on Tuesday night.
He said: "Once again at home we have to go forward, be positive and entertain the fans, and we've come away with only one point out of six, which is very disappointing on the two performances we have given.
"I felt we needed to relax and pass the ball better but I can't ask for more than a first-half goal but I may need to look at it and see if I need to be a tad more negative at times.
"Should I have gone 4-5-1, I don't think so because I've got to entertain my people but, unfortunately, we tried to score and we're still on the end of a defeat.
"I feel a bit down but let's get on with the next two games, and it is very important we rise for Tuesday and then Stoke away, which will be a whole new ball game.
"I imagine I can pick a solid team to go away because I need to get the balance right between our attacking team and defending - we have got to splice it evenly.
"The balance has got to be right and the team also has to believe when I put the attacking players on - they have to believe they will defend properly.
"I've got to make sure my attack-minded players defend better, and my defenders attack better but somewhere along the line I think we have got a good team and we'll win a lot more than we lose.
"I have asked them whether they believe in me and do they believe in what I have said since I walked into this place because one or two things will need to change about each other. I believe in all of them."
Holloway was also a little disappointed with the attendance at Home Park, which was just over 14,000, especially when his team started the afternoon at third in the Coca-Cola Championship.
He said "The fans that didn't bother today will sit at home and think 'we lost at home, why should I bother?'
"I am asking them to get their backsides on seats because there were far too many spaces today and my boys didn't deserve that for their efforts - I can't believe it."
The manager did conclude with a pat on the back for Sturrock and his team as well as a reminder to his players for the need to encourage each other.
"Well done to them, they have got a load of injuries and will be delighted," said Holloway.
"Sometimes it is easier to play away from home.
"This division is very frustrating because you think you will win the game, and then the other team go an nick it, which they have done.
"We need a bigger squad but I am delighted with the players we have got, providing they realize everybody needs encouragement, whether they are a flair player or more down-to-earth.
"Every single one needs to be brought into the fold and we will move on."
Damn bad luck that...Plymouth really need to dig in at times...and not let the opposition score such "easy" goals. *sigh*
greenegg
21-08-2006, 12:15
Damn bad luck that...Plymouth really need to dig in at times...and not let the opposition score such "easy" goals. *sigh*
We were defensively shit on Saturday where as Wednesday were good in defence, oh well we got the League cup tomorrow night at home against Walsall which we will probably lose haha
nath_scfc
21-08-2006, 13:24
Shit defending won't matter much this Saturday Mr Egg, we have Pericard and Sidibe up-front. One can't score, the other falls over the fuckin' ball. Depends if Ade comes back between now and then though :w00t: Mind you, all he can do is run and nail people...
Eastwood and Conolly though, they could if we pull either of them out the bag!
*Crosses fingers*
Cheering Pulis, are you keen for that?
oh well we got the League cup tomorrow night at home against Walsall which we will probably lose haha
Many true words spoken in jest
Plymouth Argyle 0 Walsall 1 (S Dann 84) Result
greenegg
22-08-2006, 22:32
Fuck me that was an awful game and credit to Walsall they deserved the win. I didn't actually say it entirely in jest either because once in the last 14 years have we got past round 1 of this competition. I hope we improve and sharpish but as I say Walsall did well.
greenegg
22-08-2006, 22:35
Shit defending won't matter much this Saturday Mr Egg, we have Pericard and Sidibe up-front. One can't score, the other falls over the fuckin' ball. Depends if Ade comes back between now and then though :w00t: Mind you, all he can do is run and nail people...
Eastwood and Conolly though, they could if we pull either of them out the bag!
*Crosses fingers*
Cheering Pulis, are you keen for that?
Pulis will get mostly booed by our fans which in a way I understand but for me he kept us up, made us hard to beat and when he did all he could he fucked off which is a blessing in my view. Regarding Saturdays match I expect a draw or loss if we play like tonight. A Pulis 0-0 for me.
Many true words spoken in jest
Plymouth Argyle 0 Walsall 1 (S Dann 84) Result
That's terrible....but at least not as bad as Sunderland...their new signing getting sent off after 4 mins!! Cripes!
Oh well...what we learn from history...that that we don't learn from history....should have put the reserves out for a run to take the sting of defeat away....:tongue: :erm:
greenegg
23-08-2006, 20:54
A Wotton special against Shef Wed from Saturday. For those familiar with with Wottsy they will know his set piece class. For those who don't he smashes his pens kind of middleish but by the time the keeper moves it is already in the net and I'm not even exaggerating. I am a bit biased but for penners alone if I had to choose any player in the world it would be Wottsy easily.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HwRIKyd2lg
greenegg
23-08-2006, 20:59
Just found highlights from that Madrid game (ignore the ignorant and misinformed commentator)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak5FC1dao7k&search=argyle%20madrid
greenegg
25-08-2006, 03:30
Bo and Ollie have had words and this....
ARGYLE winger Bojan Djordjic has been placed on the transfer-list by Pilgrims' manager Ian Holloway.
The 24-year-old Serbian former Manchester United and Rangers midfielder was left out of the Argyle squad that was knocked out of the Carling Cup by League Two Walsall.
He will not be in the Pilgrims' party that travels to Stoke on Saturday, with Holloway preferring instead youngster Ryan Dickson, whose league experience amounts to just two starts.
"I've had a chat with him and he's been put on the transfer-list," confirmed Holloway.
"It's based on my observations since I've been here. I know what I want. If he wants to change things and consistently do what I want, I haven't got a problem with him.
"He should be getting crosses in the box, practising corners and free-kicks every day.
"I've spoken to him, and that's been between me and him. He'll have to earn the right to get back in or I'll be looking for someone else.
"I've got Dickson in the squad for the weekend. He's had a bad back, but I'm happy to go with that. From what I've seen, he gives me what I want - effort, workwise for the team. It's not all about talent; it's about your character and application.
"The boy knows what I've said and it's down to him. I will be looking and I will be listening and if he makes me change my mind and I take him off the transfer-list, great, but, at the moment, he's on it."
The Dubes
25-08-2006, 04:27
Plymouth Argyle?
Cool.
Wow....great to see Dickson get in...as I saig Greenegg...I didn't like Djordic at all in my FM2006 game...it is kinda scary that it is mirrored by Holloway's assessment...the game is better than I thought with it's stats and predictions!
greenegg
25-08-2006, 23:23
Wow....great to see Dickson get in...as I saig Greenegg...I didn't like Djordic at all in my FM2006 game...it is kinda scary that it is mirrored by Holloway's assessment...the game is better than I thought with it's stats and predictions!
Holloway has offered Bo the chance to try and redeem himself so maybe he will get the best from him yet. FM2006 is not an accurate predictor, England won the WC on mine :tongue:
Holloway has offered Bo the chance to try and redeem himself so maybe he will get the best from him yet. FM2006 is not an accurate predictor, England won the WC on mine :tongue:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! The USA won my WC....so....'nuff said... :tongue: :w00t
greenegg
28-08-2006, 11:30
Pulis speaks out from Saturday
STOKE boss Tony Pulis paid tribute to his goalkeeper and central defenders following the 1-1 draw with Argyle at the Britannia stadium.
The former Pilgrims manager admitted that his old side were the far better team in the early stages of the game.
"I thought Plymouth started ever so well and they had three great opportunities, and I thought we defended those well," said Pulis.
"It was really good goalkeeping from Simonsen and great defending from Clint Hill and Michael Duberry; that's what they are paid for and they did fantastic in those situations."
The home crowd were less than impressed with the performance of their team, as a chorus of boos rang around the stadium at the final whistle.
Pulis remained resolute in the face of the criticism, and insisted that he will look to build a strong squad for the long term.
Argyle fans will remember that Pulis is not a man to throw money at players he doesn't feel our good enough for his team.
"People pay their money and they are entitled to their views," said Pulis.
"I knew it was going to be difficult before I came back; I think Pericard and Higginbotham have been good signings and we will build as we go along.
"I won't be panicked into getting people who are not good enough for the club; it's not a small operation, it's a large operation.
"We are a little bit closer as I speak now than we have been for the last few weeks but I won't be rushed into signing anybody - that has never been my trait; I've never done it as a manager.
"We want to strengthen and we want to do it in every position but you have to take a little bit of stick, and have broad shoulders.
Despite the disgruntlement among the home crowd, Stoke did take the lead in the game and were only 14 minutes away from victory before Barry Hayles scored the equaliser for Argyle.
Hayles had terrorised the Stoke defence in the first-half, and only a man-of-the-match performance from Potters' goalkeeper Steve Simonsen prevented the Pilgrims from putting the game out of sight.
Pulis, however, always felt that his team could hang on to the end and pick up the three points.
"Up until the goal I thought that we would see it through," said Pulis.
"I didn't see him (Hayles) second half until he got the goal and I thought Hill and Duberry played very well today.
"I couldn't see them scoring second half until they got the goal and to be fair to them, once they scored, they looked like the team that would go on and win it."
The Green Army gave their former manager a frosty reception with cries of 'We're not boring anymore' ringing out from the Argyle support.
Pulis took the barracking well, and had nothing but praise for the club and his successor Ian Holloway.
"That is the game and wherever you go, you will get that reaction and its part and parcel of it," said Pulis.
"I've got a lot of good friends down in Plymouth, a lot of people I like and got on very well with around the club and outside the club.
"They are the people that count; the people on the terraces pay their money and they have the opportunity to come to a game and say what they want to say but it doesn't make any difference to me.
"I hope he (Holloway) does a smashing job because it is a smashing club, and I really enjoyed my eight months down there
"As I have said before, it is a unique club and a good club.
I really like it (the club) and he (Holloway) has got them bubbling along a bit, and they've had a really good start."
Great fan reaction...and good respect from Pulis! Hayles seems like he is turning out to be worth the money! I'd like to see more of Buszaky though...he's supposed to be very good.
nath_scfc
28-08-2006, 14:49
He said Higginbotham and Perican't improved our side the other day. :mellow:
Fact is, rushing into signing players would still be an improvement on certain individuals. Seriously, Saturday was one of the most disappointing performances I've seen since we've been back in the Championship.
Good luck for the rest of the season though, except when the Mighty Potters visit Home Park. ;)
greenegg
28-08-2006, 15:50
He said Higginbotham and Perican't improved our side the other day. :mellow:
Fact is, rushing into signing players would still be an improvement on certain individuals. Seriously, Saturday was one of the most disappointing performances I've seen since we've been back in the Championship.
Good luck for the rest of the season though, except when the Mighty Potters visit Home Park. ;)
Yeah cheers Nath a mate who went to the game on Saturday said that your Keeper was MOM and we could have won had it not been for him. Also a chorus of "we're not boring anymore" went around the away end and a few Potters laughed and applauded the song. Pulis is a defensive fool. Also do you read the Oatcake message board of yours?
nath_scfc
28-08-2006, 16:59
I do read, seldom post though. Simonsen was superb, like in his first one, real good stuff. His save in the first half was phenomenal, launched himself across the goal and clawed it out for a corner. Apart fgrom him it was total pish. Maybe Sweeney was ok, but Clulis took him off to bring on Kevin Harpic :mellow:
I was expecting Hayles to irritate me more than he did, I only got pissed off with him once. What's going on there?! :ohmy:
greenegg
28-08-2006, 17:03
Haha Hayles is a menace. I was reading some of that Oatcake stuff and it made me laugh some of the idiots on there but our board also has idiots so I can't say much.
Clulis :laugh:
greenegg
10-09-2006, 01:40
Another few points lost at home. We should have won this we created plenty but still lacked the final product. SEB is off the mark though :w00t
TWO strikers representing Argyle's past and its future ensured honours finished even between Ian Holloway's current club and his previous one.
Holloway saw his side fail to win a fourth successive home game under his management after former Pilgrim Dexter Blackstock had returned to haunt the club he played for on loan from Southampton two seasons ago by giving Rangers a 16th-minute lead.
Sylvan Ebanks-Blake, Holloway's £200,000 summer buy from Manchester United, equalized within 15 minutes, but although Argyle bossed proceedings thereafter, they could not find what would have inarguably been a deserved winner.
Argyle tore into Rangers for the remaining hour of the game, with Ebanks-Blake, Hayles and Akos Buzsaky their chief tormentors, and created any number of potential decent chances.
However, to their credit, Rangers clung on to the point, even it was fingertip stuff at times.
Holloway had made two changes to the side that had drawn 1-1 at Stoke last time out to maintain the Pilgrims' unbeaten start away from home.
Dexter Blackstock turns away from Lee Hodges
Tony Capaldi was dropped from the left side, allowing Buzsaky to make a seasonal full debut on the opposite wing to which he was almost exclusively employed by previous manager Tony Pulis.
The rare benching ended a rollercoaster week on a miserable note for the Northern Ireland international who had equaled an 80-year-old club record the previous Saturday by joining Moses Russell as the club's most capped international.
However, after winning his 20th cap in a 3-0 home defeat by Iceland, Capaldi was discarded by manager Lawrie Sanchez, missing out on even a place on the substitutes' bench for Wednesday's historic victory over Spain.
The other change was less of a surprise, with Ebanks-Blake drafted in as Sir Barrington's partner up front, swapping places with Nick Chadwick as he has done in or before every game this season.
Holloway's successor as Rangers' manager, Gary Waddock, made three changes to the starting line-up that had capitulated 3-1 at home to Ipswich in their last game before the international break, though none to the defence.
Off to the bench went long-serving midfielders Kevin Gallen and Steve Lomas, along with young striker Ray Jones.
Wotton gets in on Bircham
Marc Bircham, now bereft of that questionable blue and off-white quiff he used to sport, came into the middle of the middle, with youngster Egutu Oliseh making his first-team debut on the right wing.
Great Dane Marc Nygaard came back from injury in place of Jones to partner Blackstock in attack - Blackstock, who spent several successful months at Home Park at the end of the 200-4-05 season, having joined Rangers in the summer.
The two sides spent a circumspect opening quarter of an hour testing each other's mettle without either goalkeeper being called into action.
The nearest either side came to breaking the deadlock was a strong near-post header from Hayles from Buzsaky's right-wing corner that flashed past Rangers' goalkeeper Paul Jones' post.
Akos gets in tight
Almost immediately, Rangers responded with what was pretty well their first attack of the game, Lee Cook threading the ball through the Pilgrims' rearguard for Blackstock, who stretched to get a feather touch on the ball that was enough to deflect it home through the legs of hopelessly exposed goalkeeper Luke McCormick.
Blackstock's dart represented the first time Argyle had been behind in the first half of a game on their home turf since March, and they responded as positively as you would have hoped.
Buzsaky flopped a Wotton-range free-kick on to the top of Jones's net and Hayles exposed a perceived weakness on the left side of the Hoops' defence to drive a cross into the near post that was cleared amid some panic.
Given the head of steam, it was no real surprise when Argyle leveled. Like Rangers' opener, the chance came from a wonderful through-pass - this time from right-back Paul Connolly - but the similarity ended there as Ebanks-Blake needed to show composure beyond his years and experience to beat Zesh Rehman and Jones, and then curl the ball home.
Celebrations after Ebanks-Blake socres the equaliser.
The goal completely changed the game, as goals tend to do. The confidence flowed into Argyle's game, while Rangers suddenly appeared to be jitteriness personified, with the back four all at sea.
No-one looked more ill at ease than Italian left-back Mauro Milanese, who did well to recover and thwart David Norris after his mistake had played in the Argyle midfielder.
That was not the only chance that Argyle created leading up to the break, with Hayles and Ebanks-Blake terrorising the Rangers' defence, the latter's rampaging down the right nearly setting up the former for a tap-in.
Argyle began the second period more or less where they had left off the first. Buzsaky, having now switched wings to pour more pressure on the head-banded Milanese, went close with a decent drive following a run that totally baffled his Italian marker.
Wotton macthes his opponents
The next attack saw Paul Wotton's determination win the ball from Matthew Rose and invite Lee Hodges to send in a curling cross that was only a few inches too high for Ebanks-Blake to apply a meaningful header.
The next wave saw Norris play in Ebanks-Blake for an apparently free run on goal, but the eager youngster's first touch was too heavy and Rehman got across to snuff out the threat.
Norris was then himself denied a rare Home Park goal when centre-back Damion Stewart timed a tackle from behind to perfection, before the Argyle midfielder set up Ebanks-Blake for another header that flew over the crossbar. If he had been six inches taller, he would have had a hat-trick.
The danger with having so many attacks and so much of the play is a susceptibility to the counter attack, and Argyle nearly paid the penalty for their forward thinking when Rangers worked the ball forward to Nygaard for the first shot that McCormick had to save.
Reuben Reid plays keep the ball
Holloway threw on Chadwick and teenager Reuben Reid for the last 15 minutes, withdrawing Buzsaky and Ebanks-Blake, and Reid was soon in the thick of things, teeing up Hayles for a shot that Jones tipped round his post for a corner.
That, though, proved to be the Pilgrims' last clear chance as Rangers ran down the clock, and not even five minutes of added time could aid Argyle's endeavours.
Argyle (4-4-2): 23 Luke McCormick; 22 Paul Connolly, 13 Mathias Kouo-Doumbe, 6 Hasney Aljofree, 20 Lee Hodges; 7 David Norris, 15 Paul Wotton (capt), 4 Lilian Nalis, 8 Akos Buzsaky (11 Nick Chadwick 75); 9 Sylvan Ebanks-Blake (27 Reuben Reid 76), 10 Barry Hayles. Substitutes (not used): 14 Tony Capaldi, 18 Gary Sawyer, 29 Luke Summerfield.
Bookings: Aljofree 22.
Queens Park Rangers (4-4-2): 13 Paul Jones (gk); 7 Matthew Rose (capt), 25 Damion Stewart, 5 Zeshan Rehman, 3 Mauro Milanese; 28 Egutu Oliseh, 8 Marc Bircham (16 Steve Lomas 77), 9 Nick Ward, 17 Lee Cook; 32 Dexter Blackstock (31 Ray Jones 89), 30 Marc Nygaard (10 Kevin Gallen 90). Substitutes (not used): 12 Jake Cole (gk), 24 Patrick Kanyuka.
Bookings: Bircham 32, Stewart 42, Cook 65.
Referee: Andre Marriner (West midlands).
Attendance: 12,138 (940 away).
That's a pretty good match summary...this is from the Guardian:
All even on south coast as Holloway vents his anger
Anna Kessel at Home Park
Sunday September 10, 2006
The Observer
Ian Holloway left behind pistol hold-ups, courtroom drama, boardroom wranglings and severe debt problems for a sunny spot on the south coast - and some spending money. But the former QPR manager's feelings still burn on the subject of his treatment by the London club. And so guessed the press who turned up hungry for some 'BMW' (bitching, moaning, and whingeing, in Holloway speak) after he faced his old club.
Holloway was initially restrained - he didn't even mention QPR in his programme notes - but succumbed after the match. 'I'd be a liar if I said I wasn't emotional about it. Shall I tell you what brassed me off? When I left and he [Gary Waddock, current QPR manager] said, "I'm going to change the style of football played here overnight." He said it over and over again. But it was me who gave the fella a job in the first place.'
Article continues
Holloway went on to list his frustrations. 'I was starved of cash, lost my chief scout, wasn't allowed to make decisions about the team. Then they threw me out and chucked me in the garden after five years. I thought it was unfair. I'm glad today's over because I shouldn't be sweating up in the paddock and today I was rather too lathered up for a horse of my experience.'
It was experience versus the upstart then as the two managers paced the touchline. The visitors had the better start as Dexter Blackstock, the 21-year-old former Southampton striker who sojourned at Plymouth two seasons ago, got a touch to Lee Cook's pass. The resulting shot was weak but crept its way over the goalline. Plymouth, however, would not be overawed.
Their 34-year-old signing Barry Hayles threatened with a number of chances, and the team pressed right from the back, with Paul Connolly a major presence. The growing confidence produced an equaliser through Connolly's incisive pass to home debutant Sylvain Ebanks-Blake, who struck to level the score. The 20-year-old was a £300,000 signing from Manchester United, who had spent last season in the doldrums at their feeder club Royal Antwerp. His consequent frustration was now put to good use. On the touchline Holloway did his best to gee up the crowd, whooping his arms at the referee and gesticulating at his opposite, Waddock.
The former Ireland international's team were physical on the field but failed to replicate Plymouth's passing game. The home side should have capitalised following a series of near misses from Hayles and Ebanks-Blake in the second half, and QPR were - quite rightly - happy to go home with a point. Waddock insisted the occasion had been unmarked by any personal differences but admitted he was pleased with the draw. 'They put us under a hell of a lot of pressure,' he said, 'other teams will come down here and not leave with anything.' Except perhaps an ear-bashing from Holloway. But who would have it any other way?
Man of the match: Sylvain Ebanks-Blake
The youngster harried and jostled and did not look out of place alongside a player 14 years his senior. He scored on his debut, but if he can convert a better percentage of the chances he creates he will be a Home Park legend.
Good to see SEB start his scoring "spree" HAHA!
greenegg
12-09-2006, 12:13
Big Bazza against Stoke a few weeks back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM4mYOw81po
greenegg
12-09-2006, 12:18
SEB off the mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKikFkoyWSU
greenegg
13-09-2006, 01:00
Damn what a game. Best game for drama and excitement and tension I have witnessed for a long time. Looked like we deserved no points for a long time but come the end we could have taken all 3.
Argyle 3
McNaughton og 68
Hayles 73
Purse og 87
Cardiff 3
Thompson 7
Chopra 28
Chopra 47
IAN Holloway may still be searching for his first home victory as Argyle manager but if ever one point felt like three, this was it.
The Pilgrims had suffered the most depressing first-half the Green Army has had to endure for a very long time. Defensive lapses had gifted Cardiff two goals, and another blunder at the start of the second half saw Argyle three behind.
The inspired introduction of Lilian Nalis and Akos Buzsaky completely alterted the flow of the game, however, as the new men injected craft and vibrance to a previously deflated Argyle side.
Argyle draw level
Firstly, Buzsaky's persistence on the left-wing led to a own goal from Kevin McNaughton, and five minutes later a scrambled that has been credited to Barry Hayles sent the Green Army wild. It will take microscopic analysis of the video evidence to eventually decipher who or what it was that applied the finishing touch.
Cardiff, who were top of the league at the start of the night, were shaken by the resurgent Pilgrims. The equaliser, when it came, was a horrible blunder by the experienced Darren Purse as he headed into his own net under pressure from the other Argyle substitute, Nick Chadwick.
Argyle sought the winner in the dying minutes but it was just a bridge too far. Still, we will take a point after being 3-0 behind with only a quarter of the game remaining. Holloway made three changes to the team that drew 1-1 with his former side QPR on the weekend. A fight with an advertising board left Paul Connolly nursing a sore toe and unavailable for selection, allowing Anthony Barness to make his start of the season in the Championship.
The other changes came in midfield with experienced Frenchman Nalis rested from the engine room to be replaced by young Luke Summerfield, and Northern Ireland international Tony Capaldi coming in for Hungarian Akos Buzsaky on the left-hand side of midfield.
Ollie makes his changes
Holloway had hinted that he may rest Nalis with the trip to Southampton on Saturday in mind, while Buzsaky was left drained after his first start of the season against QPR. Holloway has been highly impressed with 18-year-old Summerfield and Capaldi had been rested for the QPR game after his international exploits the previous week.
There was a new face on the bench for Argyle. Dutch defender Marcel Seip, who joined the Pilgrims in a short-term deal a fortnight ago, was named among the replacements in place of Gary Sawyer.
Dave Jones made just one enforced change to his team with experienced centre-back Purse returning from suspension to replace Dutchman Glenn Loovens, who is now serving a ban of his own following his dismissal in Cardiff's first defeat of the season - a 2-1 loss at Preston. Apart from that, it was the same 16 that went down at Deepdale on Saturday.
The early tempo of the game was helped by the introduction of a multi-ball system at Home Park, and a swift move involving Capaldi and Sylvan Ebanks-Blake almost brought Argyle a goal on just three minutes.
Ebanks-Blake, fresh from his first goal in the famous Green shirt against QPR, found space in the left channel, and cut the ball back for the onrushing Capaldi, but his first-time effort with the left instep slipped inches wide of Neil Alexander's far post.
The Cardiff response was instant. Paul Parry burst down the right-wing and delivered a low cross for Scottish international Steven Thompson to divert past Luke McCormick at the near post. It was an incisive break by the Bluebirds and a neat finish from Thompson, who scored the only goal of the game when the teams met at Home Park in the Championship last season.
Good goal though it was, Argyle will have felt hard done by to be behind after dominating the early exchanges and looking far brighter than the league leaders. An anxious Green Army could not help wondering if the game was set to follow the familiar pattern of the current season at Home Park.
In fairness to Cardiff, they had contained Argyle's enthusiastic early endeavours and were putting together some neat passing moves of their own. Parry was a real threat on the right flank, and he cut inside on his favourite left-foot on 21 minutes to send a low drive skidding just wide of McCormick's near post.Seven minutes later and Argyle conceded a horror goal from a defensive perspective. After needlessly losing the ball in midfield, the Pilgrims appeared to have regained possession until Barness attempted to slide the back to McCormick but got it all wrong, and Michael Chopra was left to run free on goal.
The former Newcastle striker skipped past McCormick before selling a cheeky dummy to the desperately retreating Hasney Aljofree, and stabbing the ball into the empty net with more than a touch of arrogance.
Cardiff Player distraught
The Pilgrims were clearly rattled, and Thompson almost punished another defensive mix-up a couple of minutes after the Barness incident. Fortunately for Argyle, Thompson's clever lob was just too high and the score remained a retrievable 2-0.
Holloway had stated before the game that his team just needed to start getting the rub of the green in front of goal, but it never looked like happening in the first-half. Even the rare sight of an Aljofree overhead kick was not enough to lift the spirits, as the ball screwed a few yards wide of Alexander's post.
It was Aljofree again who provided the last meaningful moment of miserable first 45 minutes for Argyle. The big centre-back spun neatly on the edge of the box and lashed a fierce left-foot drive inches wide. It was Holloway's tongue, one suspected, that was doing all the lashing during the interval.
The Pilgrims emerged for the second half a full three minutes before the visitors, and seemingly determined to banish the memory of a depressing first period.
Sadly for Argyle, their positive intent was crushed within two minutes of the restart. An attempted clearance by Aljofree went wrong as he stepped on the ball rather than putting his foot through it, and the loose ball found its way to Chopra in the box, via the impressive Parry.
The lively striker fired into the bottom right-hand corner of McCromick's net to give Cardiff a 3-0 lead. Retrieving a two-goal deficit may have been possible but three goals against a team top of the table surely required a footballing miracle.
Holloway had to change things around to give Argyle any chance of performing their miracle, and ten minutes into the second half skipper Paul Wotton and Anthony Barness were sacrificed. Akos Buzsaky and Lilian Nalis were the men entrusted with leading some semblance of a fight-back.
Barry Hayles, so often Argyle's saviour this season, was the man to have the first real opening of the second half, but he was denied a shot on goal by a fantastic last-ditch tackle from former Wycombe Wanderers defender Roger Johnson.
Buzsaky took ten minutes to warm-up but when he did, Argyle were presented with a life-line. The Hungarian playmaker was released on the right flank by a neat pass from Ebanks-Blake. Buzsaky took the ball to the byline, before cutting back and sending in a low cross to the near post.
There were no attackers within five yards of the retreating left-back Kevin McNaughton, but he got his legs in a tangle and deflected the ball past the helpless Alexander to give the Green Army some hope.
Argyle's second
All of a sudden Argyle were on top, and five minutes later Home Park erupted. The Pilgrims pumped a series of crosses into the Cardiff penalty area. Luke Summerfield and David Norris both had efforts blocked by an increasingly desperate Bluebirds' defence. The ball kept coming back, however, and Hayles eventually bundled the ball over the line after the most almighty scramble in the six-yard area. The miracle was on.
The ball had now taken up residence in Cardiff's defensive third, as Argyle won a succession of corners and throw-ins to launch at the panic-stricken visitors. Eventually, the inspired Buzsaky sent a curling effort towards goal, but it was well-held by Alexander.
McNaughton puts throughhis own net
Dave Jones was now the manager forced into substitutions in an attempt to change the flow of the game. Experienced striker Kevin Campbell of Arsenal and Everton repute was introduced along with young Republic of Ireland international Willo flood. Parry and Thompson made way.
The Holloway response was a substitution of his own. Nick Chadwick replaced Ebanks-Blake, and the former Everton man almost scored with his first touch. He was denied, however, by a brave block from Alexander down at the foot of his near post.
Equaliser
Never mind, Darren Purse kindly completed the miracle for Argyle a couple of minutes later. A long punt forward by McCormick was allowed to bounce by the terrified looking Cardiff defence. Chadwick hassled and harried Purse, and the experienced defender could not deal with the pressure. He inexplicably headed past his own 'keeper to send Home Park into absolute delirium. Disappointingly, the attendance was below 12,000 and yet the Green Army were making the sort of noise that double the amount of people would have struggled to match.
It was a truly incredible game and Holloway's search for a home victory continues but we can all wait a little bit longer after sunch an epic match.
ARGYLE (4-4-2): 23 Luke McCormick; 2 Anthony Barness (8 Akos Buzsaky 56), 13 Mathias Kouo-Doumbe, 6 Hasney Aljofree, 20 Lee Hodges; 7 David Norris, 29 Luke Summerfield, 15 Paul Wotton (c) (4 Lilian Nalis 56), 14 Tony Capaldi; 9 Sylvan Ebanks-Blake (11 Nick Chadwick 83), 10 Barry Hayles
Substitutes (not used): 19 Marcel Seip, 27 Reuben Reid
Bookings: Hayles 81
CARDIFF (4-4-2): 1 Neil Alexander; 2 Kerrea Gilbert, 3 Kevin McNaughton, 5 Darren Purse, 12 Roger Johnson; 11 Paul Parry (14 Willo Flood 80), 19 Riccardo Scimeca (c), 10 Stephen McPhail, 16 Joe Ledley, 9 Steven Thompson (20 Kevin Campbell 80), 8 Michael Chopra
Substitutes (not used): 18 Luigi Glombard, 25 Malvin Kamara, 40 Darcy Blake
Bookings: McNaughton 26, Ledley 55, Chopra 85, Thompson 90, Gilbert 90
Referee: Steve Tanner (Somerset)
Attendance: 11, 655 (1,100 away est.)
Damn what a game. Best game for drama and excitement and tension I have witnessed for a long time. Looked like we deserved no points for a long time but come the end we could have taken all 3.
I see Darren Purse is still a Birmingham fan - first he gets suspended so he doesnt have to play against us then scores the equaliser, in his own net, to put us top.
Once a bluenose always a bluenose
greenegg
13-09-2006, 21:39
Yes Huw and what a header it was. I think it had a touch of the deliberance about it
Slacking on the posting Mr. Egg!
15-Oct from SkySports.com
Plymouth Argyle manager Ian Holloway has hailed his side's fighting spirit following their 3-1 win over Derby County.
Paul Wotton gave the home side the lead at Home Park, but their advantage was short-lived when Arturo Lupoli levelled matters.
The Pilgrims were up against it when Mathias Doumbe was dismissed, however, Wotton's second penalty and Marcel Seip's header confirmed their third successive league win.
Holloway knows the contest might not have been of the highest quality, but is delighted his side have climbed to an impressive fifth in the Championship table.
"It was a battle out there. It wasn't pretty, it wasn't the best but we have got great team spirit and they showed great spirit today," said Holloway.
"There were some strange decisions out there but we got on with it and got the result.
"Maybe more people will take a bit of notice about us now because we are not one of the fashionable clubs.
"We are trying to build something down here and maybe a few more people will take notice now we are up to fifth in The Championship.
"There's still a long way - 35 games to go - but we are here now and have got something to build on."
Meanwhile, Derby boss Billy Davies felt referee Paul Taylor's decisions cost The Rams.
Former Preston boss Davies thought Derby should have had a free-kick in the build-up to Plymouth's first spot-kick and that their second penalty was also contentious.
"Two decisions cost us dearly," blasted Davies.
"We felt Jon Stead was impeded leading up to their first penalty, which was a soft goal and was a penalty, although we felt the play should have been stopped before then.
"The one that really hurt us was the second penalty. I will look at it again on replay but we don't think it was a penalty and it really knocked the stuffing out of us. Decisions like that cost you - and after that we looked nervous.
"It was so disappointing because for the first 45 minutes we showed some very good signs."
Good bloke that Captain Wotton!!!
greenegg
10-11-2006, 20:10
Sorry to be negligent nTurtle but here are some goals. Also I will get posting in here again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJXwkJ2IZvM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7cPoynxRy4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh-F3cvrihk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_zLNOOJWtc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQlS65vC9cw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux-Xkdtjph8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2L7gDLz8eA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz1UN7o94_g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gbc_sqO4yM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHEs6HBUnCM
Sorry to be negligent nTurtle but here are some goals. Also I will get posting in here again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJXwkJ2IZvM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7cPoynxRy4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh-F3cvrihk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_zLNOOJWtc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQlS65vC9cw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux-Xkdtjph8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2L7gDLz8eA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz1UN7o94_g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gbc_sqO4yM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHEs6HBUnCM
Wow...thanks Greenegg! That's great! Gotta start my plymouth team again when I get FM2007! :w00t
Seip looks classy...and Samba interesting...for an "old" guy....Hayles isn't too bad! Defensively....if Plymouth can keep a few more clean sheets...I think they can easily move up the table more.
greenegg
11-11-2006, 23:06
Another away day point. Big Bad Bazza
Leicester City 2
Hume 29, Porter 75
Argyle 2
Nalis 31, Hayles 90
ANOTHER Saturday, so nearly another hard-luck story for Argyle.
Despite outplaying their hosts for most of the game, the Pilgrims looked set to return from the Walkers' Stadium with nothing but a bad-beat tale and a second successive Coca-Cola Championship defeat for the first time in a while.
After falling behind to a goal of dubious legality from Iain Hume just before the half-hour, Lilian Nalis soon put the Pilgrims back on terms at his old stamping-ground with his first goal of the season.
Argyle were more than equal to the Foxes best efforts, and anyone asked to pick a likely winner thereafter would have prompted for the Greens until a slip by Dutch defender Marcel Seip looked to have gift-wrapped the winning goal to substitute Levi Porter with 15 minutes to go.
Thankfully, with the game already in injury-time, the Pilgrims' persistence paid spectacular dividends when Barry Hayles bobbed up to head home his sixth goal of the season and earn a merited point.
Hayles might even have nicked a winner in the dying seconds of the dying seconds when his shot from range was just beaten away by the home goalkeeper.
The Equaliser
Argyle's ebullient manager Ian Holloway had resisted any temptation he might have felt to make any changes to the Pilgrims' line-up that had unluckily tasted home defeat against Birmingham the week before.
With a full squad to chose from, that represented a huge vote of confidence in the personnel that took to the field in black away shirts embroidered with a red poppy to mark Armistice Day.
It also gave Argyle one of their strongest benches in living memory, with the likes of Cherno Samba and fit-again Lee Hodges unable even to gain a place in the 16-man squad.
Conversely, Leicester manager Rob Kelly made swingeing changes after the Foxes' first defeat in eight matches at resurgent Sheffield Wednesday seven days earlier.
Spiky Australian midfielder Danny Tiatto was missing through suspension after - no surprise here - picking up five bookings for the season, striker Elvis Hammond was benched, and defender Darren Kenton and midfielder Andy Johnson disappeared from view altogether.
Into the starting line-up came right-back Alan Maybury, wide midfielders Momo Sylla and Andy Welsh, and forward Matty Fryatt.
Leicester started at a (post horn) gallop and some cute interplay on the right between Iain Hume and Sylla saw the latter force a corner thanks to Marcel Seip's perceptive near-post defending.
The Pilgrims remained on the back foot and were nearly made to pay for their early inability to clear their lines when Stephen Hughes unleashed a low, rising, drive from the edge of the penalty area that Luke McCormick did exceptionally well to (a) see through a small plantation of legs, and (b) parry around his post at full length.
It was not the first time this season that Argyle have got off to a sluggish start - think Barnsley and Sunderland away, Ipswich home - but at the Walkers, as then, they soon hit their stride and, frankly, looked easily the better team.
Paul Connolly's whipped in cross from the right was begging for a touch, while Nalis, back on the territory where he scored one of the best goals in Leicester's history, threatened with a header from Tony Capaldi's corner.
It was a long time before either penalty area saw much meaningful action but Argyle's exploratory approach play kept Leicester occupied as they looked like a burglar trying out a variety of safe combinations.
Out of the blue, midway through the half, Leicester unworthily took the lead. Hume, their best player by the length of Fosse Way (which is known as 'damned by faint praise', by the way) was allowed to run in behind the Argyle defence and slot home after cleverly rounding Luke McCormick.
Hume
He looked a far and away offside, but Richard West, the linesman who declined to flag, invoked a clause of the new FIFA guidelines that no-one understands and brushed off Argyle's protestations - although, in the current climate, they were more like polite enquiries: "Wasn't that offside then , lino?"
Whatever, Leicester's lead lasted barely two minutes. Argyle forced another Capaldi corner on the right, and when the ball was played straight back to the Pilgrims' left-back, it was just a matter of time.
Capaldi coolly teased his marker before cutting the ball back from the bye-line to Nalis, and the Frenchman coolly steered the ball home all along the ground with a shot from just inside the box.
The Pilgrims then resumed their earlier authority but Leicester's backs-to-the-wall defending kept the home side in the game and, despite Argyle's enterprising play, the teams went into the interval level - in terms of goals at least.
Celebrations
Argyle resumed with Akos Buzsaky and David Norris on opposite wings to their normal positions, as they had ended the first half, and Leicester resumed with Hume again their focal point.
The Canadian international continued to be about the only source of concern to the Pilgrims, and Paul Wotton made a fine covering tackle to ensure he did not profit from Sylla's approach play early in the second half.
McCormick was called upon to make a rare stop when left-back Nils-Eric Johansson came up for Alan Maybury's free-kick, but his header was weak and straight at Argyle's underemployed goalkeeper.
Leicester introduced Porter for Welsh midway through a second half which was increasingly becoming a battle for midfield supremacy, and Holloway made his traditional forward move, bringing on Ebanks-Blake for Buzsaky and going to an ambitious 4-3-3.
Scrappy Game
The game, unsurprisingly, opened up, but direct raids on goal, by either side, remained at a premium, so much so, that a way off-target shot by Porter almost drew a cheer.
The impressive Chadwick was much, much closer a few minutes later, stretching at the far post to send another Capaldi corner goalwards, sending a looping header over goalkeeper Craig Logan and watching, agonised, as the ball dropped on to the crossbar.
Leicester restored their advantage as fortuitously as they has taken the lead in the first half, with Seip falling over as Porter advanced on goal, presenting the replacement with an easy chance to equalise, which he did by rounding McCormick, Hume-style.
Holloway sent on Bojan Djordjic for Chadwick and returned to 4-4-2 as the Pilgrims chased what would have been a deserved point, but his team-mates, who pressed until the end, found it difficult to get the Serb into the game.
When he did, it was nearly to dramatic effect as a dipping volley from long range flew inches wide.
Nearlies, though, do not count and it took Hayles' late goal to keep the Pilgrims impressive away record intact.
Leicester City (4-4-2): 25 Conrad Logan; 2 Alan Maybury, 5 Patrick McCarthy (capt), 3 Patrick Kisnorbo, 15 Nils-Eric Johansson; 22 Momo Sylla, 17 Richard Stearman, 6 Stephen Hughes, 23 Andy Welsh (27 Levi Porter 65); 7 Iain Hume, 12 Matt Fryatt. Substitutes (not used): 13 Paul Henderson (gk), 14 Gareth McAuley, 16 Josh Low, 18 Elvis Hammond.
Booked: Sylla 54, McCarthy 90.
Argyle (4-4-2): 23 Luke McCormick; 22 Paul Connolly, 19 Marcel Seip, 6 Hasney Aljofree, 14 Tony Capaldi; 7 David Norris, 15 Paul Wotton (capt), 4 Lilian Nalis, 8 Akos Buzsaky (9 Sylvan Ebanks-Blake 67); 10 Barry Hayles, 11 Nick Chadwick (32 Bojan Djordjic 78). Substitutes (not used): 1 Romain Larrieu (gk), 13 Mathias Kouo-Doumbe, 29 Luke Summerfield.
Booked: Chadwick 54, Wotton 86.
Referee: Mike Thorpe (Suffolk).
Attendance: 21,703 (1,500 away, est.).
Hard-fought...nearly won. Looking good Pilgrims. Such is life though...a slip gifting the opponents...sheesh...well...ho pefully they retain their good performance...that's also important...even though the result has not necessarily reflected the methodology!
3663dawg
12-11-2006, 09:10
up the argyle, what ppl think of cherno samba
up the argyle, what ppl think of cherno samba
Not really seen him in action...but he's got a cool name!!!
Contract News
Seip commits to Pilgrims
Tuesday Nov 07 2006 17:23
Plymouth Argyle defender Marcel Seip has inked a contract that will keep him at Home Park until the end of the 2008-09 campaign.
The 24-year-old Dutchman joined the Pilgrims on a short-term contract in August after leaving Heerenveen, and has impressed manager Ian Holloway in his nine appearances for the Championship side.
"He's added to us on and off the field," the former QPR boss told the club's official website.
"Despite the language barrier, his English is very good, and he's a very decent human being.
"I've been very pleased with how he's settled into the group. It's all about the group, the team, the squad, and he's added to that."
greenegg
13-11-2006, 19:27
up the argyle, what ppl think of cherno samba
He is OK mate, he needs games though.
3663dawg
13-11-2006, 20:09
the young lad has alot of pace and talent hes also a champ manager legend in hes own right
greenegg
13-11-2006, 20:13
the young lad has alot of pace and talent hes also a champ manager legend in hes own right
Yeah he is a champ man Legend but I want him to be an Argo Legend. He does have ability and talent and hopefully Ollie can eek it out of him.
3663dawg
13-11-2006, 20:15
you dont see many lads hes age being wanted by clubs in spain even if they are naff
Plymouth Argyle have beefed up their attack for the next month after landing Chelsea's Scott Sinclair on loan.
The teenager is regarded as one for the future at Stamford Bridge, but has just one substitute League Cup appearance to his name.
Chelsea have allowed the Bath-born striker to join Plymouth to garner experience and Pilgrims boss Ian Holloway (pictured) is delighted to have him at Home Park.
Holloway has known the youngster for some time and believes his pace and versatility will make him a valuable addition to his Championship squad.
"He can play numerous positions," Holloway told the club's official website. "He's quick as lightning.
"He's someone I knew and trained when he was ten years old. We've been monitoring his career for the last seven or eight years.
"I feel, with what we've got in the squad, he will offer us fantastic cover. He's a great lad and gives me more options."
http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=442319&CPID=10&clid=8&lid=&title=Pilgrims+land+Chelsea+st arlet&channel=&
Seems like a really good prospect for the future. Hope he gets to play whilst he is with you guys. Getting a few games under his belt will be good for him
greenegg
18-01-2007, 01:35
I bet he is fucking shite. Holloway claims to have been after him for 7 years??? He said he bought him to Brizzle Rovers at age 10 and then Chelsea had him away and he has tracked him since. If he scores a goal a game sign him if not get rid.
A goal a game Greenegg?
This is Scott Sinclair, not Thierry Henry or Samuel Eto'o you know...
I bet he is fucking shite. Holloway claims to have been after him for 7 years??? He said he bought him to Brizzle Rovers at age 10 and then Chelsea had him away and he has tracked him since. If he scores a goal a game sign him if not get rid.
LOL Greenegg...you're such an optimist!!!
Sinclair Stays With Pilgrims
Chelsea youngster Scott Sinclair has extended his loan stay at Plymouth.
Sinclair initially moved to Home Park on a one-month loan deal and he has now agreed to extend his stay for another four weeks.
The 17-year-old has made a real impact a Home Park, scoring two goals in four appearances for The Pilgrims, including a superb solo effort against Barnet in the FA Cup.
Pilgrims boss Ian Holloway was keen to keep Sinclair and the news is a boost to their play-off aspirations.
Sinclair will now be available for Plymouth's FA Cup fifth-round tie with Derby and the club's next seven Championship games.
Source - Sky Sports (http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=446430&CPID=10&clid=8&lid=&title=Sinclair+stays+with+Pilg rims&channel=&)
Good news for Sinclair, Plymouth and Chelsea. I wish it was till the end of the season though.
Greenegg, what was his goal like over the weekend?
nath_scfc
06-02-2007, 16:31
Sorry to but in, but it was a cracking goal for me. Can't exactly remember the details, but I vividly remember thinking "Get the fuck in my son! Have that Wanky Wanderers!"
Yes, cheering on Plymuff :huh: Being fair though, it was against the Yam Yam bastards.
In other news, Stoke fan nath_scfc threatens to massacre all of the residents of the town (or city, whatever) of Plymouth if Tony Capaldi joins Stoke City, regardless of circumstances. Do what needs to be done and sign his contract up now, Egg. I'll hold you responsible for such an atrocity :angry:
CaptainCabinet
06-02-2007, 16:36
In other news, Stoke fan nath_scfc threatens to massacre all of the residents of the town (or city, whatever) of Plymouth if Tony Capaldi joins Stoke City, regardless of circumstances. Do what needs to be done and sign his contract up now, Egg. I'll hold you responsible for such an atrocity :angry:
:laugh:
Class Article:
RYLES ON THE ROAD
11:50 - 06 February 2007
In the increasingly impatient world of professional football, any manager looking beyond the next day or two, let alone the next month, is taking something of a risk.Although operating a level below Arsene Wenger and Sir Alex Ferguson, Argyle boss Ian Holloway has shown he has no less confidence in promoting his young charges than the serial Premiership winners.
If Holloway had needed any convincing that, with the squad now at his disposal, bold is best, last Wednesday's defeat at The Hawthorns would have made up his mind.
During Argyle's first Black Country encounter against West Brom, the Greens showed too much respect for the Baggies. If Argyle had started more positively, the atrocious refereeing decisions that robbed them of a chance to secure at least a draw might not have been a point for post-match debate.
Holloway was evidently not going to let that happen again. The boldness of his team selection at Molineux, enforced or not, illustrated that he had both learned his lessons and had tremendous faith in the young talent at his disposal.
Of the 11 he started the game with on Saturday, only three were over the age of 24 - and one of those was making his English League debut. Even allowing for the presence of Lilian Nalis (35), Barry Hayles (34) and debutant Krisztian Timar (27), the average age of the starters at Molineux was just 24, while the other eight averaged just 21 years of age.
Such exuberance and endeavour, exemplified by the 17-year-olds on the flanks (Dan Gosling and Scott Sinclair) and a 19-year-old corner taker (Luke Summerfield), twice fired Argyle into the lead.
In attack, Sinclair again illustrated why he is so highly rated, with another good goal the highlight of his first start for Argyle. With solo strikes on successive Saturdays against Barnet and Wolves, it almost makes you think the lad has recently watched a copy of Graham Taylor's 'Do I Not Like Orange' documentary. Now if only Argyle had drawn Blackpool away in the next round of the FA Cup, the Greens' progress to the quarter-finals would be a foregone conclusion!
But, seriously, Argyle's attacking performance for the first 45-50 minutes was superb, even if you felt the Greens were vulnerable at the back, as illustrated by Wolves' breakaway goal for their first equaliser.
An abundance of young prospects brings a number of benefits to any football club - exuberance, energy, fearlessness and malleability - but it is not without risk, as was illustrated by the largely inexperienced team's struggles in the second half at Molineux.
After the break, we saw the other side of opting for so many young guns. It is not a criticism of the youngsters themselves, as they performed magnificently, but arguably, and particularly in midfield, they seemed to run out of steam and composure as the game wore on.
Questionable as certain refereeing decisions may have been, and even allowing for Argyle's continued threat on the counter, by the time the hosts grabbed their second equaliser, it had become just a matter of time before Wolves levelled the scores again.
Even allowing for the presence of the 'veteran' Nalis, the midfield quartet still only boasted an average age of 22 and little more than a couple of dozen senior appearances between Summerfield, Gosling and Sinclair.
With half an hour still to go, the Greens still had it within their control to win the game, but with young legs and minds beginning to wander, the time was probably right for Holloway to call in some older heads to regain a little control over the flow of play.
With Lee Hodges, Hasney Aljofree and Kevin Gallen on the bench, Ollie was not left short of experienced options to call upon. But the failure to do so at that time effectively cost Argyle the chance to control their own destiny and claim the three points.
Admittedly, youth can only develop through playing and Holloway has been right to show so much faith in them. However, perhaps as the game matured, he could have given the likes of Gosling and Sinclair a breather or a little more experienced support alongside them.
Whatever the rationale behind the manager's actions or inaction, the refreshing approach to all-out attack has made this season the most enjoyable and thrilling on the road for some years. I'm not sure many fans would trade the displays dished out under previous managers for the rollercoaster ride so often seen during Holloway's short reign.
In fact, of the 35 games played so far this season, the Greens have only failed to score in six games, while last season, under Bobby Williamson, Jocky Scott and Tony Pulis, the figure reached a whopping 22 blanks by the end of the campaign.
As nerve jangling as it might be, I guess risk rather than reserve makes for better value for money when following your club all over the country.
From Thisisplymouth.co.uk
BTW....Scott Sinclair's goal here!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb1H6p7yn30
greenegg
08-02-2007, 19:33
Source - Sky Sports (http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=446430&CPID=10&clid=8&lid=&title=Sinclair+stays+with+Pilg rims&channel=&)
Good news for Sinclair, Plymouth and Chelsea. I wish it was till the end of the season though.
Greenegg, what was his goal like over the weekend?
His goal was quite clever cut in and scored he seems confident.
Nath, Capaldi is a good player he has a good dead ball delivery and good lengthy throw. Also I nickname him Tony the Crab or Crabaldi or Chess piece Tony. For obvious reasons.
NTurtle good work, I get annoyed with Chris Ryles and his super fan shite, I see him at matches and he is a cunt.
CaptainCabinet
08-02-2007, 19:35
Plimuff r wel shit! lolololzzzz!!!1!111oneoneone
greenegg
08-02-2007, 19:43
Plimuff r wel shit! lolololzzzz!!!1!111oneoneone
yer wel so iz man u lozlozlz unlucky ur a prik
CaptainCabinet
08-02-2007, 19:46
yer wel so iz man u lozlozlz unlucky ur a prik
I've come to the conclusion I can't outidiotically type you, congats.
NTurtle good work, I get annoyed with Chris Ryles and his super fan shite, I see him at matches and he is a cunt.
HAHA! Well...he's obviously a try-hard...but he makes some good points. For me, it's amazing that real life is starting to take on some semblence of my Football Manager style - I stick Luke Summerfield out there, as well as Ryan Dickson etc and take off some of fogies like Nalis etc! HA! :w00t
greenegg
09-02-2007, 09:49
Good work mate. Dickson is currently on loan at Toytown and doing well by all accounts. Summerfield is a class act, he is young but his vision and calmness is reminiscent of his Dad when he played for us. Summerfield will go far also look out for a 16 year old named Dan Gosling, he looks a decent prospect.
Thanks Greenegg....I'm sure CM2007 is more up to date...heh heh...haven't started playing it yet!
RE: FA Cup...wow...great win against high flying Derby! Go get them Green Army!
hazman79
19-02-2007, 15:10
Good stuff so far, ads and nturtle seem sensib;e and have picked a good team to semi support and as for Huw.....dont get me started on. I'm off out again now to wwatch the Pilgrims at Home Park I will post up match report afterwards and let everyone know how good the players seem.
I thought I'd get in there first so here goes: We was robbed!
Nah the first one was never a pen but after that we just had fuck all and that lad from Chelsea took the piss. Fair play, all the best for the next round.
hazman79
19-02-2007, 15:11
Good work mate. Dickson is currently on loan at Toytown and doing well by all accounts. Summerfield is a class act, he is young but his vision and calmness is reminiscent of his Dad when he played for us. Summerfield will go far also look out for a 16 year old named Dan Gosling, he looks a decent prospect.
I heard Chelsea were having a look at him, they might want something back for their lad being at yours this season.
nath_scfc
19-02-2007, 15:20
Hazman, I doubt this is the place to discuss, but quite frankly I couldn't give two shineys about the ramifications as it will be the shapely Scrumpy-drinking shitstabber to answer to. Getting to the point, are you confident about beating us on Wednesday?
We're in poor form at the minute and have a lack of a striker crisis now. Saying that, with Pericard playing, it was more of a crisis. And we'll be without Andy Griffin who has been one of the more solid performers of late. Expecting young Dickinson from the academy to play at left-back. Probably Rooney up-front with an emergency loan or Paterson, two more from the academy there! I think we'll keep it tight at the back, and hold firm for a draw. Although, we could pinch a goal from a corner or free-kick. Then again, Barnes, Lupoli, Howard... not ideal to face those!
greenegg
19-02-2007, 19:18
Hazman were you in attendance?
Nath fuck off you oatcake bumming, pikey fighting fister. As for Derby Barnes was shite and Howard was left as a lone striker so prooved poor.
Now bring on the Watford and we are off to Wembley.
calculus
19-02-2007, 19:30
Hazman were you in attendance?
Nath fuck off you oatcake bumming, pikey fighting fister. As for Derby Barnes was shite and Howard was left as a lone striker so prooved poor.
Now bring on the Watford and we are off to Wembley.
You still have to get through the Semi's first before you get to Wembley!
greenegg
19-02-2007, 19:39
You still have to get through the Semi's first before you get to Wembley!
Your point?
calculus
19-02-2007, 19:46
Your point?
Don't want to make feel down but you just might not make it!
Could you imagine Plymouth in Europe?
Stella Artois
19-02-2007, 21:47
Christ the embarrassment.
greenegg
19-02-2007, 22:09
Could you imagine Plymouth in Europe?
I would love that. Janners on tour :w00t It will never happen mind.
Christ the embarrassment.
Almost as embarrassing as the Canvey Island crew in Magaluf, Novas at 2 o clock :laugh:
Stella Artois
19-02-2007, 22:10
I live in Chelmsford. Nice try though.
greenegg
19-02-2007, 22:11
I live in Chelmsford. Nice try though.
Same thing, full of clapped out Novas and pregnant peroxiders all sponging benefits. Essex the County of culture ;)
Stella Artois
19-02-2007, 22:14
Cornwall the county of inbred retards.
I know where I'd rather live. Still, least you get an easy shag.
Anyway, how long till Sinclair goes back?
greenegg
19-02-2007, 22:16
Cornwall the county of inbred retards.
I know where I'd rather live. Still, least you get an easy shag.
Anyway, how long till Sinclair goes back?
I live in Devon. Nice try though. ;)
Don't tell me you think Plymouth is in Cornwall :huh:
I think Sinclair goes back in mid March just after demolishing Watford.
Stella Artois
19-02-2007, 22:19
I've no idea about the geography in those parts I must admit. I'm sure I've seen you post a lot about Cornwall anyway...
What do you think of Sinclair? Doesn't look bad but I didn't think much of his performance against Derby. Other than the goal he did fook all.
greenegg
19-02-2007, 22:22
Were you at the Derby game? He played really well and ran the Rams ragged and linked well with the strikers. I think he will be a great player and I hope we can buy him, I have seen only a few performances but he looks a real threat.
Stella Artois
19-02-2007, 22:26
No I wasn't...but from what I saw he didn't look too impressive. Still, being at the game gives you a different perspective I suppose.
Good atmosphere mind.
hazman79
20-02-2007, 13:43
Hazman were you in attendance?
Nath fuck off you oatcake bumming, pikey fighting fister. As for Derby Barnes was shite and Howard was left as a lone striker so prooved poor.
Now bring on the Watford and we are off to Wembley.
No had to listen to the whole painful trough of pigs intestines on the radio. Barnes' had his head turned but can be hit and miss anyway. Howard is often deployed as a lone striker for the knockdowns and to get on the end of crosses, the complete absense of both proved fatal.
We'll focus on the league now...
I've no idea about the geography in those parts I must admit. I'm sure I've seen you post a lot about Cornwall anyway...
What do you think of Sinclair? Doesn't look bad but I didn't think much of his performance against Derby. Other than the goal he did fook all.
Don't make me come to Essex and kick your ass :realmad:
Edit: Like the avatar greenegg. Ricky is such a dick head :laugh:
Stella Artois
20-02-2007, 18:22
OK, sorry...he performed so well that I'm starting to doubt Mr. Henry's ability.
OK, sorry...he performed so well that I'm starting to doubt Mr. Henry's ability.
The sort of response I was expecting. You don't have to worry about that ass kicking now...resume your life without fear.
greenegg
21-02-2007, 00:00
Don't make me come to Essex and kick your ass :realmad:
Edit: Like the avatar greenegg. Ricky is such a dick head :laugh:
Ricky is one of the most under rated funny characters in a Comedy programme for years. He is just brilliant.
3-0 BEat some Essex tards today. Williams manager of the year though ooooh he has done so well with minimal resources. Today we dominated and should not could have had 1 or 2 more. Colchester did not travel well and the fans were laughable.
Bravoboy
21-02-2007, 10:57
Come on the Argyle!
You're in almost the exact situation as us (in League One), 11th place, and a fair way off a play-off spot, but still a glimmer of hope.
Keep up the good run.
LOL! Well....there is optimism...and there is reality...if the two meet up in a dark alley.....well...you never know...I reckon Plymouth will get past Watford this time, but a team fighting against relegation will fight harder for a sniff at anything else! Tough call!
greenegg
23-02-2007, 01:22
Nturtle, I am hoping that Boothroyd has decided staying in the premiership is more important than a cup run so he may not be overly fussed. A bit like Derby seemed league focused to a degree on Saturday. QPR up next on Saturday do not take this result for granted.
Yeah...but equally...Plymouth need to move up that table and not be another mid-table player...AGAIN...would love to see them mix it in...get some good quality players to strengthen the squad etc. Could be another Wigan in the making.
Keyser Soze
23-02-2007, 14:07
Dan Gosling - What's he like, Greenegg? Apparently Chelsea are after him, only about 17?
greenegg
24-02-2007, 12:45
Yeah...but equally...Plymouth need to move up that table and not be another mid-table player...AGAIN...would love to see them mix it in...get some good quality players to strengthen the squad etc. Could be another Wigan in the making.
I would take mid table this season. In the summer strengthen in depth and have a hefty pre season then go for play offs next year.
Dan Gosling - What's he like, Greenegg? Apparently Chelsea are after him, only about 17?
Liverpool and Chelsea interested. He is only 17 but looks a real starlet. Scored his first goal on Tuesday and we and he loved it. I hope we can keep him as he is a local lad and we don't need to be a selling club.
Keyser Soze
24-02-2007, 13:35
I would take mid table this season. In the summer strengthen in depth and have a hefty pre season then go for play offs next year.
Liverpool and Chelsea interested. He is only 17 but looks a real starlet. Scored his first goal on Tuesday and we and he loved it. I hope we can keep him as he is a local lad and we don't need to be a selling club.
Hmm.. apparently we're preparing a 2 million bid. Plymouth new feeder club? :w00t
greenegg
24-02-2007, 14:14
Hmm.. apparently we're preparing a 2 million bid. Plymouth new feeder club? :w00t
He will go on to be some player but 2 million may tempt us. BAle is worth 10 million apparently and he is only 17 so I think we should keep hold of Gosling and try to build a Prem worthy squad or wait for silly money.
Preki-USA
24-02-2007, 14:16
what is this plymouth argyle? a soccer team?
greenegg
24-02-2007, 14:19
what is this plymouth argyle? a soccer team?
:laugh: Preki do you know who the finest "soccer" :huh: team to never play in the top flight are?
Keyser Soze
24-02-2007, 14:22
If we were to get him, I'd hope Chelsea would keep him at Plymouth for a season or two, where he's playing reguarly. What position does he play?
By the way, what do you think of Sinclair? He's fucking lightning, eh?
greenegg
24-02-2007, 14:25
If we were to get him, I'd hope Chelsea would keep him at Plymouth for a season or two, where he's playing reguarly. What position does he play?
By the way, what do you think of Sinclair? He's fucking lightning, eh?
If you did get Gosling I would be disappointed but keep him with us as he will get games here but not with you so that would soften the blow slightly. He plays utility, I have seen him at Right back and all across midfield. I think in heart of hearts he is a Centre Mid. As for Sinclair he is class, he has pace skill and flair. I hope we extend his loan and we get a semi final spotunless it's against Chelsea he will be playing.
Come on Green Army!!! Kick some Watford ass!!
Bugger....1-0 to Watford....
mufcsean
21-11-2007, 13:16
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_2894838,00.html
:shocking:
Aye, I heard that this morning, I thought he was dead settled there too.
Of course Leicester are a bigger club (sorry Greenegg) but I thought Ollie would have stayed at Plymouth, they're a solid club, brilliant stadium and beautiful city too. That's a shame.
Apparently they want Sturrock back to replace him.
Stella Artois
21-11-2007, 13:31
lol @ fatboy
Apparently they want Sturrock back to replace him.
I fucking hate Paul Sturrock, I always have, I think he looks like a supply teacher, and a shit one at that.
mufcsean
21-11-2007, 13:38
He reminds me of a pervy priest, i dunno why
Actually yeah, he does look a bit priest like. I can imagine him with his hand down the pants of a praying boy, sweating and muttering something like "Ooooh, Swindon doesn't have enough kids like you"
mufcsean
21-11-2007, 13:55
:laugh: i didn't think that much into it.
Oh god, no, neither did I
:huh:
Cannon ball
21-11-2007, 16:35
I think Sturrock looks like the Fat Controller off Thomas the Tank Engine.
The Messiah
21-11-2007, 16:38
He's not at Plymouth Argyle is he?
http://talkingsoccer.blogspot.com/2008/02/arsenal-and-rangers-chase-next-rooney.html
Have you heard anything about this lad Greenegg?
greenegg
08-02-2008, 11:25
Yeah 50! he already plays with the Under 18s who are all pretty much fully developed and aged 16 and 17 some even 18 so for a 14 year old to be knocking about with them he must be half decent. On another note though some youngsters despite being good at an early age develop into nothing of worth. We are apparently trying to keep hold of him but a few vultures are keen to prise him awayand pay us minimal compensation.
AgentZero
11-03-2008, 00:33
plymouth one point away from playoff spot, do you think they can get there and into the epl eggles?
greenegg
11-03-2008, 12:01
No. Next.
AgentZero
11-03-2008, 12:34
you make this seem like a PR excercise.
greenegg
11-03-2008, 12:48
Exercise is a word unfamiliar to me :smug:
Seriously now though no. We have had an awesome season but I feel the 6th spot will be a bit too far for us. The CCC is the tightest and most random it has been for yonks. I think the top 4 will be W.B.A, Watford, Stoke and Brizzle but not in that order. 5th and 6th should go to Wolves, Charlton or Ipswich but us and Hull will be snooping about. Still a long way to go and more twists are instore I'm sure but being honest I feel we will be 7th or 8th.
greenegg
11-04-2008, 20:47
Here are the teams for the Mickey Evans Testimonial Match, to be played on Tuesday April 29th at 7.45pm.
Manager: Kevin Hodges
Martin Barlow
Jon Beswetherick (Salisbury City)
Joe Broad (Truro City)
Paul Connolly (Argyle)
Geoff Crudgington
Mickey Evans
Peter Gilbert (Sheffield W)
Phill Gill (Argyle director)
Martin Gritton (Macclesfield Town)
Mick Heathcote
Kevin Hodges
Lee Hodges (Argyle)
Romain Larrieu (Argyle)
Adrian Littlejohn
Nathan Lowndes (Chester City)
Claus Lundekvam
Lilian Nalis (Argyle)
Gordon Nisbet
Martin Phillips
Ian Stonebridge
Luke Summerfield (Argyle)
Craig Taylor
Paul Williams
Paul Wotton (Argyle)
Pat College (competition winner)
LUGGY'S XI
Manager: Paul Sturrock
Steve Adams (Torquay United)
Hasney Aljofree (Swindon Town)
Chris Billy (Osset Town)
Steve Castle
Graham Coughlan (Rotherham U)
Jason Dodd
Mathias Doumbe (Argyle)
Matthew Evans (Mickey's brother)
David Friio
Chris Leadbitter
Matt Le Tissier
Sean McCarthy
Luke McCormick (Argyle)
Brian McGlinchey
Ronnie Mauge
Andy Morrison
Kevin Nugent
Mark Patterson
Mark Saunders (Maidstone United)
Jon Sheffield
Blair Sturrock (Swindon Town)
Kevin Summerfield (Argyle coach)
Tommy Tynan
David Worrell (Dundee)
Shaun Jutson (competition winner)
Promises to be a great night for a top fella. Only a tenner to get in and the majority of the dosh will be off to charity.
AgentZero
09-08-2008, 00:42
Cathcart has joined you lot, thoughts eggles?
nath_scfc
09-08-2008, 13:30
Although I wouldn't like it as Plymouth have a good set of fans, I can see them being in a bad way come May. SEB, Halmosi, Buszacky and Norris all gone out. Four very, very big holes in your team there.
Very bad to have these players disappear, but as Greenegg implies, maybe some of the youngsters will get given a chance...starting to turn into the "Arsenal way"...ha!
Bravoboy
13-08-2008, 10:39
What happened last night, eh?
Mind you, I bet Luton would trade it for 3 points in the league any day.
BarnDoor
13-08-2008, 10:46
Eat fat cunt Greenegg.
greenegg
22-08-2008, 15:16
Although I wouldn't like it as Plymouth have a good set of fans, I can see them being in a bad way come May. SEB, Halmosi, Buszacky and Norris all gone out. Four very, very big holes in your team there.
Four big holes we haven't even attempted to fill properly. I think we may be aiming to be the richest club in League 1. :(
What happened last night, eh?
Mind you, I bet Luton would trade it for 3 points in the league any day.
We never do well in the Carling Cup. I think Luton will stay up, if they were the only team with deductions then they would be dead but the other two who have had deductions are worse I reckon so Luton will win that 3 team mini league.
Fear not Greenegg, Plymouth will stay up, no doubt in my mind they'll have a pretty steady season.
'mon the Pilgrims
greenegg
22-08-2008, 15:36
I wish I could share your faith but my advantage over you is I've been to both matches :(
Remarkabley we played well against Wolves who were a good side but away from home we will struggle with our 4-5-1 shape and our spearhead being Fallon :(
Against Reading we managed to stifle one of the best forward pairings in the league (Lita and Doyle) only to concede two wank goals of exactly the same style.
Timar is our last good player.
I wish I could share your faith but my advantage over you is I've been to both matches :(
Remarkabley we played well against Wolves who were a good side but away from home we will struggle with our 4-5-1 shape and our spearhead being Fallon :(
Against Reading we managed to stifle one of the best forward pairings in the league (Lita and Doyle) only to concede two wank goals of exactly the same style.
Timar is our last good player.
It's still early doors sir, I think the money is there, especially after the players you've sold, maybe they're looking at certain targets that will prove value for money, football is a strange game mate, come the next 3 or 4 games Plymouth could go on a cracking run and pick up 9-12 points and be right in the mix, it's a long season man and although I'm sure you'd rather still have the likes of Halmosi, Buzsaky and Ebanks-Blake, you've still got a squad capable of survival at the very least and with the added bonus of money to spend on new players.
Things will pick up mate, starting with 3 points against Swansea on Saturday ;)
greenegg
22-08-2008, 15:47
We've had money available since forever. Over the last year we have made about 7 or 8 million and only spent maybe 2 million tops. The bigegst amount we've ever spent on a player is 750K :(
We still have about 5 or 6 million to spend but due to wages and players not wanting to come down here and other teams having more attraction we always fail in the market. Our Chairman is an Accountant so as you can imagine he is quite sensible with money and doesn't take risks. I think before any major players are lured here our Club would rather finish the Stadia whichis all well and good but what's the point in having the best Ground in League 1?
My notion is to invest the money into the team, fight really hard for promotion and if we get promoted then use that money to finish the Ground.
Team before Stadium.
We've had money available since forever. Over the last year we have made about 7 or 8 million and only spent maybe 2 million tops. The bigegst amount we've ever spent on a player is 750K :(
We still have about 5 or 6 million to spend but due to wages and players not wanting to come down here and other teams having more attraction we always fail in the market. Our Chairman is an Accountant so as you can imagine he is quite sensible with money and doesn't take risks. I think before any major players are lured here our Club would rather finish the Stadia whichis all well and good but what's the point in having the best Ground in League 1?
My notion is to invest the money into the team, fight really hard for promotion and if we get promoted then use that money to finish the Ground.
Team before Stadium.
You're dead right mate about team before stadium, surely it's in the best interests of the club to have a Championship team rather than League One.
I've met the chairman actually, he's actually a top bloke, my Grandad used to work for him when he lived in Plymouth, loves the club but I'm sure you know that.
I'm not sure why players wouldn't want to join the club, I mean, they have an excellent stadium, a solid fanbase and it's actually a very nice place to boot, the appeal is definitely there. Fingers crossed man, there are still 10 days until the window shuts.
greenegg
22-08-2008, 16:02
Our fanbase is actually pretty stupid. Our Sell out crowd is 21K and we haven't filled that since Watford in the FA Cup quarter final. We should have the whole of Cornwall and most of Devon as our catchment yet we still pull in crowds of 9K or 10K on a normal day. As soon as we start to do well another 4K or so will turn out sporting Man U shirts. Our away travel is spot on, apart from a few numpties who abused Buzz when he came to watch us at Reading.
The issue with players coming down here is because most people think the SW ends at Bristol. Anything past Bristol is like another Country. So players from the North who are looking for a loan move would rather stay around their own areas for family and shit. If Liverpool or Manure need to loan a player out then they have teams like Burnley and Preston. Same as Arse or Chelsea they can go to QPR or Charlton. All our managers have stated that it is so hard to talk players into coming this far. As much as I dislike Hollowhead he had the knack of getting players to play here.
I would love to loan in someone like Sturridge or Campbell but I fear it won't be happening any time soon.
greenegg
02-09-2008, 14:44
-------------------------------Stack---------------------------------
McNamee---------Timar-------------------Doumbe-------------Barker-
-----------------------------Walton----------------------------------
Marin---------------------------------------------------Puncheon----
-----------------------------Gallagher---------------------------------
---------------Mpenza------------------Mackie---------------------
Dunno if anybody cares but I do. Stack has been our best player so far this Season so we are covered between the sticks. Defence is pretty solid and has ample cover in all areas. Left Midfield is our weak spot and we could probably do with another decent Central Midfielder. Attack wise we now seem like we have a good amount of Strikers all with different qualities. Mpenza and Gallagher will hopefully benefit from Marin's supply.
Bravoboy
25-01-2009, 23:54
Sorry to dig up an old thread (;)), but do you remember a player called Jason Jarrett?
If so, is he any good?
Phatmann
26-01-2009, 01:53
Egg, how are Cathcart and Gray doing? Gray scored an og on his first game didn't he? :faceplm:
nath_scfc
26-01-2009, 11:04
Sorry to dig up an old thread (;)), but do you remember a player called Jason Jarrett?
If so, is he any good?
He was shie when we had him. Good energy levels, but that was about it.
Bravoboy
26-01-2009, 16:31
Hopefully he'll get more than 2 games with us to prove his worth, though!
Ah well, guess he may be a good player at League One level.
greenegg
28-01-2009, 19:24
Sorry to dig up an old thread (;)), but do you remember a player called Jason Jarrett?
If so, is he any good?
He was OK when we had him about 3 or 4 years ago. I guess he was average and League 1 should suit he. I heard a Wotton rumour regarding Brighton the other day, that would be a coup.
P.S. I'm grateful to anybody who rakes up this thread ;)
Egg, how are Cathcart and Gray doing? Gray scored an og on his first game didn't he? :faceplm:
Cathcart is a solid defender mate and I would love to sign him but it's unlikely. As for Gray I only saw him at Arse and he did well but now he's injured :faceplm:
As for our Season we are going down. The 3 worst teams in our League are Southampton, Charlton and us. I'd hate to go down but if we did I drew up some positives:
1. FA Cup first round. A chance to visit some non league hell hole.
2. We may stand a chance of a promotion push although it's a tough League I reckon we'd stand a better chance of that than a Prem push.
3. Cheaper tickets and terracing away days again.
4. Most of our 'new' fans would drop off and leave us with our hardcore 3K or 4K who are used to shite and who go to support the team and have a laugh with mates.
5. On the whole better fans.
Bravoboy
29-01-2009, 12:54
Yeah, I think the Wotton rumour has been and gone though unfortunately. Would have been a great signing, but we've had a million and one names linked with us in the last month.
greenegg
30-01-2009, 18:48
Bravo, believe it or not in our current crisis I would happily have Wotton in our Midfield. At least he's passionate and cares and tries. Better than our current Summerfield shite.
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