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What is the best Final Fantasy Ever?
Giggsy11
24-11-2003, 19:49
What is the best Final Fantasy Ever?
what a question!!!
god it changes all the time for me, one minute its FF7 then FF8, i would prob say FF8 :eek:
i know FF7 is the best really but i have better memories of ff8 because when i first played FF7 i had no idea what the game was about, but when i got FF8 i new exactly what it was like.
PicturePerfect
24-11-2003, 21:29
III, VI and VII.
This is a really though question, but i loved IX the most. It had absolutely everything, the story - superb, the graphics - brilliant and the characters were out of this world.
its not that these things were not good in the other final fantasies - except ffx which was lacking story and characters - its just they were done the best in ffix.
For me ffix is the most memorable of the series, and the reason it is so memorable is because of the characters, but this wouldnt be enough on its own so they put a great story behind it as well.
Giggsy11
24-11-2003, 23:01
This is a really though question, but i loved IX the most. It had absolutely everything, the story - superb, the graphics - brilliant and the characters were out of this world.
its not that these things were not good in the other final fantasies - except ffx which was lacking story and characters - its just they were done the best in ffix.
For me ffix is the most memorable of the series, and the reason it is so memorable is because of the characters, but this wouldnt be enough on its own so they put a great story behind it as well.
I thought FFX had a great story and had the stongest love relationship,but the graphics on FFX are unbelievable,my favorite FMV is the one where they land at the wedding and ar sliding down those ropes. :cool:
MatPhillips
25-11-2003, 01:56
Very hard to see past Final Fantasy 7, the story was so imersing, it lasted so long, it had the fun little side games, like that arcade, breeding chocobos. but the whole idea of an RPG is the story. that's why it got my vote!
Although like you said Giggsy, i struggled terribly to pick it up at first as i was a tad younger.
no joke, it took me AT LEAST 5 HOURS to figure out the cross dressing bit at the wallmart. i found that you had to do everything in an exact order to progress!!
but past that it was plain sailing.......;)
i still like to play all my old RPG's, Suikoden 1+2, FF7, Wild Arms 1+2 etc.... actually i haven't replayed FF7 in ages, might buy it again as mine was playing up last time!
:)
Giggsy11
25-11-2003, 02:07
I Only have the final fantasy games and i never have time to play em.
but i can't wait till X-2.
MatPhillips
25-11-2003, 02:25
i probably wont get it, and if i do, it will be much later than release. i only just got Suikoden 3 (import) and i haven't completed FFX yet. got about 10 hours in, got stuck on a boss and lost interest a little, then my Ps2 broke, then i got PES 3, Smackdown 5, Fifa 2004, Suikoden 3 and Tony Hawk's Underground . so it kinda got pushed down the queue, oh well, it's time will come! ;)
I thought FFX had a great story and had the stongest love relationship,but the graphics on FFX are unbelievable,my favorite FMV is the one where they land at the wedding and ar sliding down those ropes. :cool:
Great story? i don't know if we were playing the smae ffx here. I wont ruin the plot for those who havent played it yet, but it wasnt particulary good, never mind great, sorry just my opinion
SPOILERS FOR FFX
for example this Sin's only reason for destroying the world is cos its following tidus - meaningless. Yu-yevon just wants death. Its not really ffvii/viii or ix. The lack of a bad guy really ruined the game for me, the nearest to one was seymour.
END SPOILERS
Well the love relationship is probably the strongest, but ffviii had quite a strong love relationship as well. Yes the graphics were great and fmvs awesome but it takes more than that to make a game great.
I was a bit harsh towards ffx in my last post, i did actually like the game the first time i played it through
Giggsy11
25-11-2003, 06:00
I was a bit harsh towards ffx in my last post, i did actually like the game the first time i played it through
yeah just a bit :D
the reason sin is following tidus is cos its his father.
Yeh i know, but to just destroy the world cos youre following someone is a little poor for a final fantasy storyline.
I also hated the voices on ffx, tidus was annoying, yuna had no emotion, wakka was plain irritating,
auron was the only cool character - storyline and voice and script and development. I would have loved ffx if all the characters had been given as much attention as auron was by the developers and there was alittle more variation in the gameplay.
I mean not just:
1) travel to the temple - normally along a road - boat earlier in the game
2)do cloister of trials
3)get aeon
early on (blitzball town and before) and later on (al bhed Home) in the game were a lot more enjoyable and the story started to kick on from there but in between wasnt particulary memorable
Giggsy11
25-11-2003, 16:26
Still a good game though, and not forgetting Yuna who had to die on her pilgrimage, I thought one of the best bits on the game is when u go to Luca for the blitzball tournament,and you are all excited before hand about taking part, that was cool. :cool:
MatPhillips
25-11-2003, 19:36
Blitzball was hard to get into for me. i found FF8 disappointing aswell!
Is FF X-2 worth getting, haven't read much about it this time :(
FFX-2 Preview (http://www.rpgfan.com/previews/ffx-2/ffx-2.html)
theres a nice preview of ffx-2
Still a good game though, and not forgetting Yuna who had to die on her pilgrimage, I thought one of the best bits on the game is when u go to Luca for the blitzball tournament,and you are all excited before hand about taking part, that was cool. :cool:
yeh, but she didnt die did she.
Agreed on the luca issue as well, that was a really good part of the game.
I think that Square was still trying to get as much profit from FFX as possible by spending all their time on graphics, the same with FFX-2, and not giving the characters the development time they deserved.
I mean, take IX for example, all the characters have amazing story's and great development over the course of the game. As an example i'll take vivi (quite possibly the best character created in any game ever) At the start of the game vivi is just a kid, knows nothing of life, has no family except for a dead grandad, he doesnt fit in because of the way he looks and well is. he meets up with zidane and forms a strong relationship with all the characters. He finds out that he was created by a machine using mist and vows to help kill whoever is responsible for it. And that all in the first few hours of the game. This continues throughout the game with all of the characters, and this fits in nicely with the story line, which is brilliant also, and some of the other characters reasons for being there.
Whereas in FFX, ill take auron (cos he is without a doubt the only good character) who rides Sin into the past to get tidus SPOILERS cos he's dead END SPOILERS and takes him with him to help destroy Sin. Auron's little story merges nicely with the main story of Jecht being Sin. None of the other characters really have that depth.
MattPhilips - What was it that you never liked about ffviii
Giggsy11
25-11-2003, 21:38
I Thought Vivi was great as well, that scene on ff9 where he is on the airship and that demon is killing all those dolls, very sad. :(
I thought ff8 was fantastic, I think all the characters on the game were great. Example: all the characters where linked in the past somehow, including Edea the evil sorceress (who later became good).
I think one of the best ever bits in a final fantasy game is on ff8 and the ‘battle of the gardens’ scene where the two gardens do battle, and u rescue riona from the cliff and when u land there is a massive battle going on in the background.
Fantastic :cool:
MatPhillips
25-11-2003, 23:22
cheers rpgste!
so FFX-2 is a sequel to 10, of sorts?
looks ok, my "guy" has it, so i was contemplating buying it earlier than planned...
PicturePerfect
26-11-2003, 01:39
Although like you said Giggsy, i struggled terribly to pick it up at first as i was a tad younger.
no joke, it took me AT LEAST 5 HOURS to figure out the cross dressing bit at the wallmart. i found that you had to do everything in an exact order to progress!!
but past that it was plain sailing.......;)
I'm glad you added that last sentence. VII was an extremely easy game, in terms of understanding and actual gameplay. Still a lovely game, of course, but being only around 9 when I first played the title, I didn't realise how simple it actually was.
What do you mean by simple, because some parts of ffvii where complicated, the life stream, cloud actually being a genetically modified thing, with zacks memories implanted, i didnt get all of that first time through, i was quite young the first time i played it though.
Ive gotta agree with Giggsy about ffviii, it was a really good game but heres something that will make you think a bit:
Rinoa = Ultimercia
there was an article on a website that i read that really made me think about the reason ultimercia was included in the game, ill try and find it.
Okay, this is going to be a very long post, the website this was on has been deleted but it was in an editorial on rpgamer so here goes:
"fact 1: i believe that sorceresses do not age. why? because it never in the whole game speaks of any sorceresses dying. it speaks of adel being from the far past, yet she is still alive. also, present day cid looks a lot older than present day edea. it is possible cid was as young as edea looks when edea received her powers, making cid age but not edea. if it is true sorceresses do not age, rinoa, being a sorceress could live on and become ultimecia."
"fact 2: it is stated in the game that in order for a person to become a sorceress, a dying sorceress must pass her powers onto them, in order to die in peace. however rinoa does not become a sorceress in this way. she becomes a sorceress after you have fought edea in galbadia garden. true you have to beat edea, but she's not dying, nor does she die, it is never explained how rinoa became a sorceress."
"fact 3: now i know what you're thinking, why would ultimecia want to kill squall if she's rinoa? well there are many indications why. i believe what happened to rinoa was, she aged and squall didn't, and eventually he died and she lived on. unable to take the pain she became evil. it might sound a bit wayward but read this quote from ultimecia just before she dies: "reflect on your..." "childhood..." "your sensation..." "your words..." "your emotions..." "time..." "it will not wait..." "no matter..." "...how hard you hold on" "it escapes you..."time will not wait, no matter how hard you hold on it escapes you? this backs up my theory of squall dying. she wanted to hold onto him but he died."
"fact 4: on disc 3, squall says to rinoa at the field next to the orphanage "i'll be here waiting for you i promise ... etc..." and suddenly the whole intro makes sense. now is it just a coincidence that ultimecia's castle is placed exactly next to this? you have to ask yourself, why the hell would ultimecia park her castle there when she has anywhere in the whole world to put it? she is waiting for squall at the field..."
"fact 5: now you might think, why would ultimecia kill squall when you fight her at the end, surely this is what she'd have wanted, to be reunited with squall. this is a valid point, however she does not recognised squall is squall, this is proven when edea explains who she is, squall approaches ultimecia and she says "who are you!?" (or something along those lines)."
"fact 6: now this is a big indication that its true: rinoa 'borrows' squall's griever ring, yes she does get zell to make a copy, but she never gives squall his back, this is proven at the field when rinoa says "i have this dream, i get all dressed up and put on your ring... etc...".just before you enter galbadia garden, you get to name the ring, (the default is griever). ultimecia has a gf.......called griever, (or whatever you name the ring). if you remember, you get doomtrain out of solomons ring. its possible griever is gained from squall's ring, which ultimecia would have if she is rinoa."
"fact 7: ultimecia has black wings, rinoa has white wings. there is a lot of emphasis placed on rinoa's wings (on her costume, and limit). black = evil, white = good. it would be a natural progression. that is backed up by these shots taken from the ending. it appears rinoa's wings are changing from white to black."
"fact 8: there are 3 fmv shots of ultimecia in the game, all are at the ending, and last less than 1/10th of a second each, barely visible (did you notice them?). why would square go to all the trouble of making the fmv if no one were to see it? square aren't stupid, they wouldn't waste time and money for nothing."
"fact 9, the biggest: now i knew myself i would never believe it unless i saw that rinoa looked like ultimecia, and from what i could remember she didn't. however, look at these pictures i have superimposed onto one another (they aren't exactly right because the pose ultimecia is doing, rinoa doesn't do, so i found the nearest match (see the bottom of this page for pictures)"
patrick_bateman
26-11-2003, 05:19
this is gonna be confusing for some ppl.
final fantasy 3 in japan was final fantasy 5 in america, its the same for a few titles.
for me 3(or 5) was the pinnacle of exploration but 7 holds deep in my heart...
oo i cant wait for ADVENT CHILDREN, THE RETURN OF SEPHIROTH!! YE AHH
Giggsy11
26-11-2003, 06:15
Thats a very interesting post my friend :)
I only really understood the last section :p , especialy the part about griever (squall gives riona his griever ring then at the end of the game ultimica uses griever so ultimica must be riona).
but maybe this is all just coincedence?
this is a game that just could have made lots of mistakes (like rinoa not giving the ring back, and the previus sorcerous needing to die to become ultimicia)
but it is very intersting stuff, like any final fantasy it gets u thinking and i'm tempted to play it again now,but yeah i think what u are saying is very interesting stuff.
So what about when Riona is under edeas control in dollet or when riona is fighting ultimecia at the end,how can riona be fighting herself? :confused:
Giggsy11
26-11-2003, 06:21
and where are the pics mate?
1) I dont know where the pics are, supposed to be on the website where that originated but i copied it from an editorial and the original website seems to have closed down now.
2) I know its a lot to take in at first but it isnt that confusing is it?
3)i doubt that it is all a coincedence or that square made 9 interlinking mistakes, they are not that sort of company, well they certainly wernt when they made ff8 anyway, when they were not in financial trouble (which only started after the movie ff : the spirits within). So i doubt they were under any pressure so i would have thought most bugs had been ironed out.
there were two things that really got me to believe in this theory, the first was the ring / GF which is convinving on its own, but the second is the i'll be waiting here bit that hit me the first time i played through the game after hearing the theory.
If time is compressed then i might be possible for rinoa to actually be able to fight herself, maybe
Patrick bateman,
wasnt ff6 in japan released as ff3 in america?
ff4 was actually called ff2 in america and the original ff was ff1.
i dont think ff2/3/5 were realeased there untill the playstation was brought out
Giggsy11
27-11-2003, 05:33
i see yout point, that post really got me thinking.
Zeppelin
05-12-2003, 18:50
Hi, I'm new here but listen anyway.
I also was young when playing FFVII and it took me an age to do wall market first time too! I remember finding the story really spooky weird with all that cloning gabble and I got super-confused but I eventually understood.
On the subject of FFIX, I have to say that it's biggest failing is the stories similarity to FFVII. Think about it. Superhuman (Sephiroth) wants to destroy the world who wronged him. So does Kuja. They are both related in some way to the main protagonist (Cloud through memories, Zidane through brotherhood). Both have heroines that the hero is always saving (Garnet and Aeris) and both have a loner character who absolutely rules (Vincent and Amarant) as well as an annoying kid (Yuffie and Eiko).
So there you go. I still think FFIX was great but I didn't connect with the characters and I always felt like I was being told what to do by the little "!" and "?" that appeared. Made it too easy.
FFVII however, was mint. Harder to me as a mere 10 year old and thus I found it hard. The linearity of Disc 2 is a bit annoying now but then it was unnoticeable. This is the major problem with FFX, you never have any control and the first three hours just seem like an overblown tutorial and yes, Auron is the only really great character.
Notice how the mystery man in the wacky clothes is always the best? Look at Vincent, Irvine, Vivi/Aramant and Auron. Look at Shadow in FFVI! It all adds up. Whilst Cloud and Cid were awesome they could never match Vincent and his frankenstein complex.
Talking about FFX-2 and Advent Children, wouldn't the best idea be FFVII-2? Think about it! You could play as the Turks before, during and after FFVII. Or a game as Vincent trying to find out more about his past. Or Barret. The possibilities are endless.
Finally, rpgste's FFVIII 'sorceress' post. Me and some friends have been thinking along these lines fora while but not under such extremes! Well done to that guy whoever wrote it all originally! I need to play FFVIII again now just to see all those little hinty things!
PS: Did anyone ever destroy the mech-spider in Dollet? I did. Damn hard but what a rewarding feeling!
Giggsy11
06-12-2003, 05:34
PS: Did anyone ever destroy the mech-spider in Dollet? I did. Damn hard but what a rewarding feeling!
I did and yes it is hard, but when u don't do it its quite a good chase scene between 'the spider' and squall, as i said, one of the best parts of any of the FF's is the 'battle of the gardens' in FF8, really good. :)
ff8 is easily the best ff. ffx was way too linear, and the fact that you only get some freedom just before the final section with sin is annoying. in 9 there was just something missing that i can't put my finger on, and 7 was great as well.
On the subject of FFIX, I have to say that it's biggest failing is the stories similarity to FFVII. Think about it. Superhuman (Sephiroth) wants to destroy the world who wronged him. So does Kuja. They are both related in some way to the main protagonist (Cloud through memories, Zidane through brotherhood). Both have heroines that the hero is always saving (Garnet and Aeris) and both have a loner character who absolutely rules (Vincent and Amarant) as well as an annoying kid (Yuffie and Eiko).
So there you go. I still think FFIX was great but I didn't connect with the characters and I always felt like I was being told what to do by the little "!" and "?" that appeared. Made it too easy.
Okay, i do sort of agree with you but i have to fight my corner for ffix as as ive said all along i think it is the best out of any of them.
firstly, kuja wants absolute power, he doesnt want to be the understudy to garland. whereas sepiroth was the master, everybody accepted that he was the strongest, most talented swordsman in the world. Kuja was always going to be replaced by zidane and when he found out that his lifespan was limited he could not bear to see others live, he says something to the effect that if i cant live then nobody can.
ive got to agree on your second point about cloud and sepiroth and zidane and kuja being related, but it is even more relevant than you suggested. Cloud was a "clone" of sepiroth but was inferior (according to hojo) but zidane and kuja were both made by the same person so maybe brothers, or where they clones?
but zidane was the superior "model" to kuja whereas cloud was supposedly inferior to sepiroth.
well, i dont think that the third point is valid at all,
1- aeris died so cloud wasnt saving her then
2- name a final fantasy, or in general rpgs, where the heroine isnt saved by the hero
On your next point, many rpgs have loner characters - squall was a loner in ffviii, and he was the main character. i dont think vincent really had that much input into the story and neither did yuffie, okay they had a bit but nothing like as much as eiko and armarant even had quite a big part to play. ffx had auron - a quality loner, and all the females were annoying, especially rikku.
i connected with the characters in ffix better than in any other ff game so i cant really comment on your point there, its just an opinion.
finally it was too easy with the '!'s but ozma made that easyness seem to go away.
Giggsy11
11-12-2003, 07:29
wow, u have soom very interesting points about FF games rpgste, i have never thought so hard about them like that.
MatPhillips
11-12-2003, 20:49
Restarted FF:VII tuesday, it's a good game still, but it just doesn't have the same hold on me as it used to :(! i'm still gonna try and complete it.
last night i said to myself "i want to turn it off about 10pm" and at 9.55pm i was looking for a save point.
in the old days i would've looked at my clock and thought 1:15am?????? OH F***.
i think its cos i'm older and the desire's slipping a little bit!
Giggsy11
11-12-2003, 22:53
The FF games are always the best the first time you play them because the memory stays with you.
wow, u have soom very interesting points about FF games rpgste, i have never thought so hard about them like that.
yeh, i normally play a game through two or three times to fully understand the plot and characters. The first time you play and ff game you never find everything you ned to fully understand the story, characters and dont find the hidden things. The second time you can 'read betwwen the lines' as it where and actually think about why certain scenes where placed into the game.
ive started playing ffix through again and am near the start of disc three at the moment so hopefully ill find stuff that i never did all the other times ive played it, and loved it every time, and maybe bring up a couple more points that i havent already.
when i have soem time near christmas ill probably play ffvii through again and properly understand the cloud / zack bit, cos i havent played it for a long time and have grown up a lot since i first played the game and can now really get the game.
ff games are can be played through in two ways essentially:
1) you play the game throuh once and love / hate(somehow) itor
2) you play it through a couple of times and fully understand everything in it (which is normally quite hard to do)
Giggsy11
12-12-2003, 05:40
I usually play through it once, then i play through it again, maybe with the help from a guide.
once ive played it through twice i have used an internet guide to see if i had missed anything interesting that i could have done.
i found this really cool website that i think you should have a look at, it explains all the meanings of the names of all the characters from ffvii - FFVII name origins (http://people.freenet.de/finalfantasy/ch2-2.htm)
and the on the main page - FFVII - contents page (http://people.freenet.de/finalfantasy/main.htm) - there are a few interseting articles.
Giggsy11
13-12-2003, 05:56
I have the official FFX guide and its amazing, have u had any of the official ones?
nope, ive never had an official guide, cos i dont really see the point in them, if i need to find any secrets i havent found the first two times through ill look on the internet.
has anybody seen ff-crystal chronicles on GC, it actually looks quite good
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles preview (rpgfan) (http://www.rpgfan.com/previews/ff_crystal_chronicle/ffcc.html)
looks very nice, but i doubt id get a gamecude just for that and maybe zelda - wind waker
thoughts anyone?
Giggsy11
14-12-2003, 07:24
only out for gamecube?
thats a shame, but a good reason the buy a cube.
yeh, maybe, but i doubt id get one before the game comes out because the price will just keep dropping, bye the time it comes out itll prob only be £50 - hopefully.
what did u think of vagrant story, and has anyone played the original ff tactics?
Giggsy11
15-12-2003, 07:37
not played vagrant story, i only have played FF games.
btw..do u actually like pes3, i have only heard you talk about ff:D
MatPhillips
15-12-2003, 21:09
business is really picking up now, just reached Kalm and done the Sephiroth going crazy/Cloud flash back! i think thats the part that really made me bite onto the story first time around.
the cut scene where Seph walks into the flames is still my favourite ever!
Zeppelin
15-12-2003, 22:08
Started FFIX again last night, after finding my uber-file was gone. Noooo.
I've got the guides for each FF cos I play, complete and then 'mop up'. The FFVII guide doesn't explain chocobos that well but its a fairly simple game eventually. Something I found by myself that isn't in the guide thought is the SECOND ribbon accessory on the Gaea cliffs, in a chest in a secret room. Mwahhaha.
FFVII guide is awesome, as is the FFX one but the FFIX one has little things telling you to go to a site and enter 'secret codes' to get all the information. 'Twas annoying!
With reference to my last post, I was wrong bout the 'Heroine' subject, sorry rpgste! Does neone else want them to make
FFVII-2?! I know I do. Play as Reno....*drools*
Giggsy11
15-12-2003, 22:43
Has anyone found alexandria materia on ff7?
you are meant to get it in a cave from a women, i have seen the women but she dosen't say anything,
is it right that you have to touch the lake and then speak to her?
I have seen the materia but i have never actually got it.
PES3 is a really great game, bought it the day it came out and play its the only games i play when im not playing ffix at the moment. In pes i really like training up my own players and making them into stars :D. Thats always been my favourite part of footie/management games, whenever i play champ man i always buy young players that i can train up instaed of proven world class stars, i mean players like arjen robben, who are actually as good as zidane in a couple of seasons but wont retire after that leaving you without you getting paid.
Theres nothing more satisfying than seeing your player get named world player of the year, or in pes3 scoring a hatrick against man u. it doesnt come much better than that.
yeh, i play pes a lot, probly not as much as i do when im playing a final fantasy game though, i mean 70-80 hours on pes is a little excessive, but when your really into an rpg the time flys by and you end up playing through the night. I remember the first time i was playing ffix i told myself i would stop at 11, then when it got to 12 i told myself i would stop at the next save point, then at 2 or 3 i would pause the game and just fall asleep and carry on when i woke up the next morning.
the only reason i was asking about vagrant story and ff tactics - both not taditional turn based rpgs but original dark storylined games - is the the bloke who made them both is the same bloke who is making the next ff - ffxii, which looks bloody amazing.
Has anyone found alexandria materia on ff7?
you are meant to get it in a cave from a women, i have seen the women but she dosen't say anything,
is it right that you have to touch the lake and then speak to her?
I have seen the materia but i have never actually got it.
sorry i really cant remember, its been ages since i played ffvii, try looking on a walkthrough on gamefaqs, that might be useful for you.
yeh ffvii-2 would be cool, but i think the questions that i ahd at the end of ffvii, would be better unanswered, same with all the ffs really.
i mean do we really want to know the answers to the questions, i think thats is what makes a game really great, really memorable, it keeps you thinking and wanting to go back over the game seeing if you can fnd anything thats answers them for you.
do we really want to know if rinoa is ultimercia, or who is speaking at the end of ffix (IMO its got to be vivi, but i'll have another look when i finish the game again).
on the ffvii-2 subject again, maybe playing the game through as a different character like reno would make a good game, or a prequel to ffvii where you play as sepiroth or a long way further back in time as one of the Ancients, the possiblities are endless, but advent children looks to be the only thing that we are going to get.
Giggsy11
15-12-2003, 23:20
interesting thoughts, what final fantasies have u got rpgste ?
i have them all from FF6 to FF10 and i'm waiting on FF10-2.
i have 4-10 but have not completed 4+5. i have qite a few cough... roms...cough of older square games that never got translated to english or never got released here - bahamut lagoon, seiken dentesu 2+3, tales of phantasia (i kno it aint square but is great) etc. but they are all only on my pc for under 24 hours b4 i take em off and put em back on - so its all perfectly leagal - well...
i may not get X-2 for the simple reason as i cant be bothered wasting 40 quid on a game that im not really looking forward to and personally dont think will be that good. instead will have spend on baldurs gate:dark alliance 2, spend it on importing a quality game (eg chrono cross, xenogears, ff tactics) spend on some games that i missed and should really get now - onimusha 2, splinter cell, vagrant story, or save for gt4.
there are my reasons for not buying x-2 without even going as far as the game itself and im not going to start, i mean j-pop (i cant stand normal pop music never mind japanese stuff), missions in a ff - no, just no, and the fact that ffx was my least favorite ff; just a few reasons with the game itself.
well i think ill miss xi as well, not to fond of online rpgs, the only reason i play is for the deep story and great characters - neither present in xi so thats gone.
XII, for me, looks like the only FF to be released in near future that i will get, because it looks so damn great - have you guys seen the vid, its amazing so ill try and find a link.
just wondering, what was your favorite seen from a ff - mine was the bit in ffix where you are being chased by the black waltz and that whole scene was just great. The whole end of disc 3 on ffix rocked as well.
Giggsy11
16-12-2003, 05:42
My favourate scene is off FF8 and the battle of the gardens bit, i think that whole section is excellent.
i like it when u land at galbadia garden with riona and are running in front of the massive battle behind you and a galbadian solder gets whacked off his bike with a sword :cool:
Zeppelin
16-12-2003, 17:48
The WEAPONs being unleashed, awesome.
Vagrant Story rules btw and Chrono Cross is sposed to be bloody amazing as is Xenogears.
Neone here played Alundra or Grandia? They are superb RPGS with inferior sequels.
The start of FFX is good actually...that music.
Oh! RPGste, don't bother with Splinter Cell, MGS2 whoops it's ass!
On Alexander materia in FFVII, you do have to touch the lake and then get up to the womans cave in time but its tough. You can also get an added cut materia on the path on the way there. It's a great support (blue) materia that adds an attack to materia such as steal or fire or anything! The woman is a piece of ease to defeat and then you get the fifth best summon (after KOTR and the Bahamuts) because its 'holy'.
Giggsy11
16-12-2003, 18:11
kool, i think splinter cell is good but MGS2 is way better, and i agree the opening scene to FFX was amazing.
I also like the part on FFX when u first go to Luca for the tournament, there is such a good sense of anticipation before entering.
MatPhillips
16-12-2003, 22:45
i wasn't keen on tourney! prefer PES 3! ;)
Giggsy11
16-12-2003, 22:52
i wasn't keen on tourney! prefer PES 3! ;)
Lol, the start of FF games are always the best because everything is happy and nice, that’s why I like the blitz ball tournament because it was a happy part of the game. :)
i have mgs2-substance and love it but when youve played it to death you really need a change!
Grandia is one of the best games i have ever played, really amazing story and that battle system was simply the best out of any game ever, simply awesome. The weapon and magic EXP system was really cool. not to mention some of the voice acting was good - mullen was best IMO.i have alundra but never really got into it as i got it at the same time as i got grandia and suikoden 2 so it got forgotten about.
to be honest i really liked grandia 2, the twists in the plot where brilliant, voice acting was good, characters where pretty good, good story, tweaked battle system and cool graphics, and melfice - he was surely one of the coolest badguys ever.
and zeppelin what do you think of my ideas for a ffvii-2? wouldnt it be cool?
and yeh the start of ffx was great as was the garden fight in viii.
MatPhillips
16-12-2003, 23:53
after replaying FFVII for a few days i can safely say....
...THE best game character ever is...:
Sephiroth!!!
and the best cut scene is Sephiroth walking into the flames at Nibelheim! pure class!
MatPhillips
16-12-2003, 23:55
the only RPG's i can really thoroughly replay over and over again and enjoy without getting bored are Suikoden 1+2!!!
havent really got into 3 yet!
so is suiko3 any good?
i was gutted that it never came out over here
MatPhillips
17-12-2003, 19:43
like i said i literally havent played it at all yet.
but they've made it 3D, it looks a little like FFVII but smoother. that kind of engine
have you played on ff tactics matt philips and if you have is it worth getting on import?
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