Who should be in the World/Euro All-Stars [Archive]

hitmanuk2k

18-05-2003, 20:10

starting line up shud be for euro....

kahn

carlos
....the central defender of ur choice, theres too many to choose from
thuram

pires
vieira
zidane
figo

ronaldo
henry
nistelrooy

timedwins7

18-05-2003, 21:20

you can't have ronaldo or carlos in the EUROPEAN ;) squad!!!

Gooner_Harmer

18-05-2003, 21:55

Originally posted by timedwins7
you can't have ronaldo or carlos in the EUROPEAN ;) squad!!!

Erm... Look at the title!

By the way all I'm back to win that PES3 game. :D No, really I'm back because my friend just wants to go to counselling lessons allowing me PC time, afterall I miss posting here.

Zygalski

18-05-2003, 22:04

Hi Gooner. Good to have you back.

These are my updates.

Euro Elite:

Kahn (GK)
Cannavaro
Nesta
Mihajlovic
Thuram
Vieira
Figo
Beckham
Zidane
Van Nistelrooy
Shevchenko

Stam
Hyypia
Sagnol
Mendieta
Davids
Ballack
Pires
Totti
Vieri
Raúl
Henry
Toldo (GK)

World Elite:

Chilavert (GK)
Montero
Cordoba
Carlos
Arce
Verón
Rivaldo
Mahdavikia
Recoba
Diouf
Ronaldo

Lúcio
Samuel
Babayaro
Okocha
Fortune
Fadiga
Nakata
Babangida
Batistuta
Ronaldinho
Kewell
Bonano (GK)

Not a fan of too many keepers.
I go for for lower age, a nice blend of nationalities and better skills over the big names (eg Cafu).
You can question Mihajlovic but he's the best left footed free kick taker in the game so is useful at times....

You can't change the default formations so they have to be
Euro: 4-4-2
World: 3-4-3

hitmanuk2k

18-05-2003, 22:08

damnit, nevermind.... thats my overall team then!

welcome back gooner, nice to have u again....

Zygalski

18-05-2003, 22:25

don't worry hitman.
It's a classy master league team.

Which CBs do you go for?

hitmanuk2k

18-05-2003, 23:17

i got campbell on my game in the euro team.... but thats only cos he's tall and powerful. i would probably go with cannavaro in real life.

Zygalski

19-05-2003, 10:32

So what are the thoughts on the teams above?
Any opinions for alternatives?

hitmanuk2k

19-05-2003, 19:45

i really have to question el hadji diouf.... he's pretty crap mate. and batistuta is past it. you might as well stick mark viduka up front or something as apposed to them!

Zygalski

19-05-2003, 20:37

Are you kidding about Diouf?
Maybe there's an argument for why he shouldn't be in the starting 11 but he is good! Are you confusing him with someone else? Diouf is the main striker of Senegal. Wasn't he African player of the year too?

Some people swear by Bati-boy. He has great stats and can finish anything. He is old but if you take out one of the best strikers (shooting wise) in the game, it'd be unfair on the world elite team.

The best front 3 for world elite could be
Rivaldo -- Batistuta -- Ronaldo

with Recoba and Ronaldinho just behind.

timedwins7

19-05-2003, 21:31

i think recoba is much better than batistuta and can play just behind ronaldo and rivaldo.

i also have canizares in goal for the euro, hes is blinding!

does batistuta still play for inter???

Zygalski

19-05-2003, 23:12

I think Batistuta is still on loan at Inter (from Roma) though Charlton seems to be a temptation to him.

I don't actually ever use him and much prefer someone like Recoba too.

timedwins7

19-05-2003, 23:20

yeah, i knew charlton were interested but we cudnt afford his wages!!! lol. i havnt seen him play for inter since the roma v inter game, which was superb, 0-0 at half time, then finished 3-3! Anyway...perhaps hes injured or something???

Zygalski

20-05-2003, 07:29

Or maybe he's just a moody big girl's blouse.

(Have to say I did enjoy his sadness during the world cup!)

rebusrahman

20-05-2003, 11:30

I have to say Diouf is rubbish. In the world cup he spent most of the time being offside and I think he only scored 1 goal. He may have been African player of the year but he's rubbish for Liverpool and his attitude sucks (see Celtic game for details). What about Mboma?

hitmanuk2k

20-05-2003, 19:16

mboma is also shit.... he played for sunderland for a while and was the biggest pile of ever!

timedwins7

20-05-2003, 20:31

lol. Samuel Eto'o is currently on fire for Mallorca, and has suggested he would like to play in the premiership. He'd be good at a club like charlton, or man city, like one of the smaller teams. Anyone know what nationality he is?

Zygalski

20-05-2003, 22:19

I think eto'o is cameroonian.

BTW guys, I thought this was supposed to be about picking the teams based on players in the game due to their stats, not down to their real life prominence and fame.

Of course Diouf and Mboma are pants IRL but in the game, check their stats and they kick ass big time.

rebusrahman

21-05-2003, 12:54

Heskey is rubbish in both worlds! rofl!

Zygalski

21-05-2003, 13:53

You're right. He's barely in the England squad IRL and in my game.

rebusrahman

21-05-2003, 14:00

To be fair to him...he's rubbish! lol. Seriously though, he could be really good...just needs a kick up the arse. And a transfer to a diff little premiership team (like Everton?)

Zygalski

21-05-2003, 14:31

or back to Leicester (or to Martin O'Neill?)

Lisbon67Seville03

22-05-2003, 00:15

i agree, send heskey up here!! but for a cut price. also, everyone knows that the only person gauranteed a place in that world stars bench(not starting) is king henrik of sweden.

Zygalski

22-05-2003, 06:42

He'd be in the Euro team though.

rebusrahman

22-05-2003, 14:46

He has been absolutely phenomenal for Celtic. A class striker for sure...would be nice to see how he would do in the Premiership. With Owen? Rooney? Henry?

Lisbon67Seville03

22-05-2003, 16:41

rooney?!? he hasnt done enough yet to be considered one of the best. youve overlooked quite a few good players there, ie van nistelrooy, beattie, shearer, gudjohnsen, viduka

rebusrahman

22-05-2003, 17:15

Was just thinking who he could pair well with. RVN and Larson are similar players. Beattie also needs more time. Shearer is getting old. Gudjohnsen is similar. But Viduka could work dammit! Just love Rooney's display against Turkey. But yeah, it's early doors for Roonaldo!

Lisbon67Seville03

22-05-2003, 17:18

what i saying is, its not that rooney isnt ready, its just that it isnt his turn yet. with shearer, the next season could be his last, thats the only reason i suggested him(apart from his uncanny knack of goalscoring, amazing ability to win it in the air, and superb attitude towards the game) whereas beattie, i dont think you can say he hasnt developed yet, he was the top scoring englishman in the premiership, only one behind henry and two behind RVN, i think that takes some ability.

rebusrahman

22-05-2003, 17:41

"superb attitude towards the game"
No way! He maybe a complete professional but he is dirty and a total whiner! As for Beattie, it's the same case as Andy Cole. He is the 2nd highest scorer in the Premiership since its inception. But he was at Man U where the service to Cole was outstanding (just like his song)... so even a brick could have scored goals in his position. Beattie is the focus of 99% of Saints attacks. He will definitely score a lot of goals as they have few other choices to use. I believe the real test is internationally and Europe. And so far Beattie has been ineffectual in his short runout. Maybe tonight he'll do well in SA? But next season he have the UEFA cup and maybe a few more England games?

andremc11

22-05-2003, 18:17

Originally posted by rebusrahman
I have to say Diouf is rubbish. In the world cup he spent most of the time being offside and I think he only scored 1 goal. He may have been African player of the year but he's rubbish for Liverpool and his attitude sucks (see Celtic game for details). What about Mboma?

You're wrong.

andremc11

22-05-2003, 18:19

Originally posted by hitmanuk2k
i really have to question el hadji diouf.... he's pretty crap mate. and batistuta is past it. you might as well stick mark viduka up front or something as apposed to them!

You're wrong too.

andremc11

22-05-2003, 18:38

Diouf is one of the best strikers.He is also a great asister.He has resonable dribble skills which tormented Sweden and France.The only reason Turkey beat these guys was because of cheating.Diouf and Camara did not perform either.Diouf can finish.The only thing wrong is that he complains to much.About the fan incident , fans need to keep their mouths shut.Do you know how it feels to go out in the quarter finals after a poor season and fans are telling you that you played crap,you should be subbed and stuff like that.Those fans are lucky, if it was me I would throw my boots at them,the whole goal bar or just jump kick them and piece of the turf at them.Idiots!!

Zygalski

22-05-2003, 18:39

This was supposed to be about the players in the game.
Maybe someone should start a strikers debate over in the off-topic section?

andremc11

22-05-2003, 18:45

Originally posted by Zygalski
Hi Gooner. Good to have you back.

These are my updates.

Euro Elite:

Kahn (GK)
Cannavaro
Nesta
Mihajlovic
Thuram
Vieira
Figo
Beckham
Zidane
Van Nistelrooy
Shevchenko

Stam
Hyypia
Sagnol
Mendieta
Davids
Ballack
Pires
Totti
Vieri
Raúl
Henry
Toldo (GK)

World Elite:

Chilavert (GK)
Montero
Cordoba
Carlos
Arce
Verón
Rivaldo
Mahdavikia
Recoba
Diouf
Ronaldo

Lúcio
Samuel
Babayaro
Okocha
Fortune
Fadiga
Nakata
Babangida
Batistuta
Ronaldinho
Kewell
Bonano (GK)

Not a fan of too many keepers.
I go for for lower age, a nice blend of nationalities and better skills over the big names (eg Cafu).
You can question Mihajlovic but he's the best left footed free kick taker in the game so is useful at times....

You can't change the default formations so they have to be
Euro: 4-4-2
World: 3-4-3

Nice one I'll try it.:D

Zygalski

22-05-2003, 18:51

andremc11, why isn't your signature picture working?

andremc11

22-05-2003, 18:54

Zyglaski
Registered: Apr 2003
Location: London
Posts: 465

Heading for the game are'nt you.:mad: :confused: :eek:

andremc11

22-05-2003, 18:56

Originally posted by Zygalski
andremc11, why isn't your signature picture working?

I did not how at first.But has HitamnUK has sent me a PM and I know what I have to do now.:D ;)

Zygalski

22-05-2003, 19:03

Good, cos I'm getting curious.

andremc11

22-05-2003, 19:18

Originally posted by Zygalski
Good, cos I'm getting curious.

Ahahaha don't worry.:D ;)

andremc11

22-05-2003, 19:19

Oh,just one question did you score that freekick in your avatar, against Portugal.

Zygalski

22-05-2003, 19:22

:) Nice one.
It's not my own pic.

But I think I would have had an 80% chance of hitting the target.
:D

Lisbon67Seville03

22-05-2003, 22:13

diouf should be in the world squad in this game as he plays well and has good stats. but in real life, he is not suited to the english game, too many tricks and flicks never work. he should be in italy or spain.

rebusrahman

22-05-2003, 22:24

Originally posted by Lisbon67Seville03
diouf should be in the world squad in this game as he plays well and has good stats. but in real life, he is not suited to the english game, too many tricks and flicks never work. he should be in italy or spain.

Okocha seems to be doing alright for a player who does all that IRL. Fair enough Diouf in the game.

Lisbon67Seville03

22-05-2003, 22:28

but okocha is a different class from diouf, he also scores and sets up goals in every game. would bolton still be up if he wasnt playing for them, tough to say, but probably not. plus, he plays behind the striker, kind of, whereas diouf plays up front. either way, i see what you're saying, and i suppose it was kind of unfair for me to say that about diouf, maybe its just a tough first season.

rebusrahman

22-05-2003, 22:30

Originally posted by andremc11
Diouf is one of the best strikers.He is also a great asister.He has resonable dribble skills which tormented Sweden and France.The only reason Turkey beat these guys was because of cheating.Diouf and Camara did not perform either.Diouf can finish.The only thing wrong is that he complains to much.About the fan incident , fans need to keep their mouths shut.Do you know how it feels to go out in the quarter finals after a poor season and fans are telling you that you played crap,you should be subbed and stuff like that.Those fans are lucky, if it was me I would throw my boots at them,the whole goal bar or just jump kick them and piece of the turf at them.Idiots!!

I will keep this IRL stuff brief. I checked and he scored zero goals in the WC. And how many goals has he scored for Liverpool? There are other Senegalese players I rate higher. Papa Diop, Fadiga, Cisse, Diao and Coly. Ok no more real life now!

Gooner_Harmer

22-05-2003, 22:32

Originally posted by Lisbon67Seville03
but okocha is a different class from diouf, he also scores and sets up goals in every game. would bolton still be up if he wasnt playing for them, tough to say, but probably not. plus, he plays behind the striker, kind of, whereas diouf plays up front. either way, i see what you're saying, and i suppose it was kind of unfair for me to say that about diouf, maybe its just a tough first season.

Okocha has been immense. There is no doubting that, he has single handedly kept up Bolton (with Djorkeaff).

Lisbon67Seville03

22-05-2003, 22:32

lets get off th strikers, what about the bag four/three/five? id play a back three of samuel, lucio and montero and have roberto carlos and cafu(where have i heard that before?) at wing backs.

Lisbon67Seville03

22-05-2003, 22:33

i do think that okocha could be the single best talent nigeria have ever had.

Gooner_Harmer

22-05-2003, 22:38

Originally posted by rebusrahman
I will keep this IRL stuff brief. I checked and he scored zero goals in the WC. And how many goals has he scored for Liverpool? There are other Senegalese players I rate higher. Papa Diop, Fadiga, Cisse, Diao and Coly. Ok no more real life now!

NO NO NO! All he did was have one god game in the WC. That was it! There is no doubt that if a player has a good WC his value doubles. Liverpool have learnt the hard way.

rebusrahman

22-05-2003, 22:40

Don't forget Roger Milla and George Weah. Almost always play 4-4-2. But then again I've only just started playing on hard. So I guess I'll have to think about formation and tactics more as I move up the game. But on hard. Carlos, Thuram, Tudor & Ferdinand aren't bad.

Lisbon67Seville03

22-05-2003, 22:42

are roger milla and george weah in that game??? and thuram and ferdinand are european.

Gooner_Harmer

22-05-2003, 22:44

Originally posted by Lisbon67Seville03
i do think that okocha could be the single best talent nigeria have ever had.
Couldn't agree more.

Lisbon67Seville03

22-05-2003, 22:45

i wish PES could introduce that kind of feet dragging thing that he does when he takes penalties the way they did the beckham free-kick, cuz its just so cool.

Gooner_Harmer

22-05-2003, 22:48

Originally posted by Lisbon67Seville03
i wish PES could introduce that kind of feet dragging thing that he does when he takes penalties the way they did the beckham free-kick, cuz its just so cool.

Yes they should add that in.

P.S. Isn't it illegal to slow down and fake your movements during a penatly?

rebusrahman

22-05-2003, 22:48

Apologies for getting carried away!!! Weah is in there as an unlockable classic player. Wreh I think... which is weird as his nephew Christopher Wreh once played for Arsenal

Lisbon67Seville03

22-05-2003, 22:51

that was his nephew?!? but he was aweful(well, compared to the man himself) its illegal to stop and re-run i think, but i dont think its illegal until you get within a certain distance of the ball. he only does it for a couple of steps though, and then just runs(and how fast is that!!)

Zygalski

22-05-2003, 22:55

To be fair to Diouf, he has been played wide midfield for Liverpool rather than in his preferred position of striker.

rebusrahman

22-05-2003, 22:57

50% cos he didn't cut it as a striker really. Maybe next season?

Gooner_Harmer

22-05-2003, 22:57

Originally posted by Lisbon67Seville03
that was his nephew?!? but he was aweful(well, compared to the man himself) its illegal to stop and re-run i think, but i dont think its illegal until you get within a certain distance of the ball. he only does it for a couple of steps though, and then just runs(and how fast is that!!)

Well I was watching a game between Rayo Vallecano and Seville and I swear I saw them almost stopping completely...

Anyway, Christopher Wreh is a brilliant bloke. I met him in Denmark at an International football tournament I was playing in. He was so incredibly nice and at the time he was playing for Arsenal, anyway he was sponsering the Libyian National Under 21's to play there. What a brilliant gesture!

Lisbon67Seville03

22-05-2003, 22:57

he has kinda drifted over there, thats true. but okocha plays behind the front two(pedersen and dyjorkaeff i think usually now that ricketts left) which is different from wide out, but that doesnt mean anything i guess.

rebusrahman

22-05-2003, 22:59

Do you mean Liberian U21's, Gooner_Harmer?

Gooner_Harmer

22-05-2003, 23:02

Originally posted by rebusrahman
Do you mean Liberian U21's, Gooner_Harmer?

Yes.... :o Bit embarrasing that! Im sure Colonel Gaddafi is more interested in blowing up the stadiums than playing football!

Lisbon67Seville03

22-05-2003, 23:03

im sure that wreh is a nice guy, weah was so why not? but that doesnt mean he was really what youd expect from a man who had the greatest liberian(no!!what about...yeah probably)as a teacher. did he not play for st mirren at one time?

Gooner_Harmer

22-05-2003, 23:03

Originally posted by Zygalski
To be fair to Diouf, he has been played wide midfield for Liverpool rather than in his preferred position of striker.

Simply because he has played so poorly upfront.

Gooner_Harmer

22-05-2003, 23:06

Originally posted by Lisbon67Seville03
im sure that wreh is a nice guy, weah was so why not? but that doesnt mean he was really what youd expect from a man who had the greatest liberian(no!!what about...yeah probably)as a teacher. did he not play for st mirren at one time?

Thats irrevelant. How good you are is up to you and you alone.

Lisbon67Seville03

22-05-2003, 23:08

well put, i tip my glass to you gooner. very inspirational. is wreh still playing, if so who for?

Zygalski

22-05-2003, 23:15

It's kinda hard to play up front for Liverpool when their tactics consist of ten men back and hoofing it up to Owen. Not much chance for anyone else, hey?!

Lisbon67Seville03

22-05-2003, 23:17

they are in dire need of a couple of quality wingers

rebusrahman

22-05-2003, 23:18

Well put Zygalski. They need to play to the Liverpool ethos and also gain some width. But we are straying off target...stay on target....stay on target!

Lisbon67Seville03

22-05-2003, 23:20

fine then, what would your midfield for world stars be?

rebusrahman

22-05-2003, 23:27

Euro in the game
Davids
Figo/Giggs depending on how I feel
Beckham
Zidane

World in the game
Almeyda
Babangida
Rivaldo
Verón

Lisbon67Seville03

22-05-2003, 23:29

nothing for okocha?
ive got:
rivaldo(far forward)
okocha(more central)
emerson(holding role)

rebusrahman

22-05-2003, 23:33

Well I dunno! Okocha is great but Babs has such pace. I find Almeyda more defensive than Emerson. And Veron is in the OMF cos he is a pansy in central midfield and no good on the wing. That's why Rivaldo on the wing.... not ideal but there you go!