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Jasper
18-12-2003, 22:33
I know Goalie's have a set of their own stats now,but handling is not there,and I read somewhere that ''technique'' was the handling stat.Is this true?and if so are there any similar stats like ''response''=''reactions''???? What do you know? Because despite his stability and response and gk skill,Kahn still seemed to drop the ball an awful lot(his technique is only 71)is this a coincidence?
yr970255
19-12-2003, 02:41
Technique =how good players control the ball when passed to them

I think for the goalie response is how quick they react to the ball as most good goalies have good response in the game i.e Khan,Toldo,Buffon
Nifty1Pound50
19-12-2003, 02:53
Keeper Skills = Shot-Stopping Skills

Response is indeed = to the Reaction of a keeper.

In terms of crosses, Balance helps keepers keep the ball in their hands, but I'm not too sure which stat affects this aspect during shot-stopping.

And I know what you mean about Kahn. For a keeper with 98 for GK Skills, his catching skills are slightly surprising.
mellows
19-12-2003, 04:09
for some reason the ukrainian goalie (shovosky) has 81 shot technique, dunno why though?!?
Nifty1Pound50
19-12-2003, 04:28
Maybe Shovkovsky's good at bicycle kicks? Those Ukranians always were sneaky Russians...
mellows
19-12-2003, 04:35
lol, i will ave 2 try that out
Jasper
20-12-2003, 01:24
Well come on,anyone,Zyg do you have any idea about this,the Kahn thing confuses me?
Nifty1Pound50
20-12-2003, 01:30
If I don't know, Zygalski won't either.

I'm clevererer than he is don'tcha know.

Alternative Explanation:

You'll probably notice that Kahn gets better and better at catching the ball as time goes on. He had a shaky start with me, but as his Teamwork improved, he started playing a lot better, and - noticeably - taking more crosses with aplomb.
larsson
20-12-2003, 03:09
Donīt forget that "aggression" is also important for GKs (especially at crosses)
Mambo
20-12-2003, 04:10
Goalkeepers really annoy me in PES3. They never catch the ball when it is lofted into the box. I've had keepers completely miss floated balls from 50m out and go straight in. They just stick their arms up and it goes past them. Also they always miss the ball for attackers to head into the net. And what the hell is it with when they eventually DO catch something, they have to fall over? It's like Konami thought 'we've gone to the trouble of putting in a new animation - let's use it as much as we possibly can.'

There that's my moan over. PS incase you're wondering the 'keepers I've used are Toldo and Buffon, so they're by no means shit 'keepers.
larsson
20-12-2003, 04:48
Thatīs right Mambo, keepers are horribly weak in PES3, thatīs one of the reasons why I prefer WE7.
Nifty1Pound50
20-12-2003, 06:43
Donīt forget that "aggression" is also important for GKs (especially at crosses)

The point is, once Kahn has got there, he should catch it.

Aggression deals with their likelihood of coming far enough to catch it.
larsson
20-12-2003, 06:46
Aggression deals with their likelihood of coming far enough to catch it.

Yes, like I said, aggression is important for crosses, isnīt it ? :p
Jasper
21-12-2003, 23:16
yeah but the issue is ''handling not speed
Nifty1Pound50
22-12-2003, 00:08
Yes, like I said, aggression is important for crosses, isnīt it ? :p

Yes, I'm not disagreeing with you. What I was getting at, was that Aggression deals with how far the keeper will come. Once he's come far enough, there's another stat that decides whether he catches or not, I think it's Balance. ;)
Jasper
23-12-2003, 19:07
cheers
Mambo
23-12-2003, 22:22
Sod the stats, I think Kahn, Buffon and Toldo are more than capable of catching a ball - why can't they in the game?
Jasper
23-12-2003, 22:26
EXACTLY that's my point mate.What IS the handling stat?Some say technique and some say teamwork and others say stability
Nifty1Pound50
25-12-2003, 00:41
Well, it's Balance for balls that have been crossed in.

Shot-stopping wise, Goalkeeping Skills does the trick.

Still doesn't explain why Kahn catches like a fuckin' dyslexic penguin with arthritis though...
Jasper
25-12-2003, 06:29
exactly mate,that's the explanation I want and this sort of thing is beginning to hack me off
Tim Howard II
17-06-2005, 10:17
See, this the the reason, GK stats are so straight forward in FIFA 2005. Handling, Reflex, Aggression... they are all there. Try tampering the stats a little to see if any improvements are made.

Jaser,
I noticed that in the individual stats menu, they stopped keeping stats after extra time going into PK. So in reality, does that mean that you've kept a clean sheet after extra time, even if you conceed a goal in the PK?