Just can't help themselves, can they? [Archive]

Stella Artois

29-09-2007, 16:43

From the BBC website:

1634: Trouble in the stands at the JJB Stadium which is sold out. Are Liverpool fans in Wigan sections? More on that as and when.

And you want us to feel sorry for the 96? :no:

Jonny2J

29-09-2007, 16:45

Don't worry mate, it'll all be the Wigan fans fault.

Miggy

29-09-2007, 17:05

Don't worry mate, it'll all be the Wigan fans fault.

All 2 of them.

mufcsean

29-09-2007, 17:08

Whats happened?

lfcboy

29-09-2007, 17:09

I didn't hear about this.

Cannon ball

29-09-2007, 19:33

You can't say anything against Scousers. They will all protest, and claim the whole world seeks to target them. Dont read the S*n.

The Stig

01-10-2007, 16:05

Lol I was sat in the Wigan section with my Dad, Mum and step-sister as my dad's boss has season tickets and he couldn't go and when Liverpool scored so many people jumped up and all the Wigan fans stood up going mad. The problem is they can't even fill their own fucking ground so away fans can get hold of any tickets. If they could fill their own ground none of this would happen.

Stella Artois

01-10-2007, 16:10

:laugh:

I knew there'd be excuses.

The Stig

01-10-2007, 17:02

:laugh:

I knew there'd be excuses.
It's not an excuse I'm just saying if they could fill their home ground with home fans they wouldn't have any of this palava.

Definitely Maybe

01-10-2007, 19:02

There was a fair few in the home end when we played them, clad in replica tops, all with either Gerrard or Carragher on the back. I don't have a problem with it to be honest, although you're asking for trouble wearing your shirt.

Stella Artois

01-10-2007, 19:18

It's not an excuse I'm just saying if they could fill their home ground with home fans they wouldn't have any of this palava.

Oh, sorry my mistake.

Of course it's Wigan's fault that you lot can't just sit there and watch the game, isn't it?

As usual you were there to cause problems. Any with half a brain cell knows you don't publicise the fact you're in the home teams stands.

Plenty of other teams go into Wigan's home section, yet you never hear of any trouble.

Dan

01-10-2007, 19:29

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/8307/070929102wiganliverpoolty0.jpg

:erm:

Stella Artois

01-10-2007, 19:35

They deserved every last punch they got.

Cannon ball

01-10-2007, 19:44

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8205/94632059ps5.png (http://imageshack.us)

:shocking:

mufcsean

01-10-2007, 19:47

£10 pounds says that image is used in a Police investigation :erm:

cadey

01-10-2007, 20:06

I've been to Villa Park on several occasions and sat in the home end and celebrated when we scored. Nobody seemed to have a problem with me, mainly because I always situate myself near some Asians who fall asleep before HT.

BarnDoor

01-10-2007, 20:42

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/8307/070929102wiganliverpoolty0.jpg

:erm:

Easily one of the finest things I've ever seen.

hitmanuk2k

01-10-2007, 20:45

Stella you are a complete cunt if you think it's acceptable to beat someone up just for supporting a particular football team. This is WIGAN versus Liverpool we talking about here. I might understand that sitting in opposing sections for games like Man Utd v Man City, or Liverpool v Everton... but come on this is ridiculous. Why don't Wigan just allocate more Away tickets when they know they can't sell out there own?

In EVERY other sport fans mix with each other and enjoy the game.

Stella Artois

01-10-2007, 20:48

My apologies.

I'm sure the Liverpool fans did absolutely nothing wrong and in no way retaliated or got involved so as to make the situation worse.

hitmanuk2k

01-10-2007, 20:56

Well I can't see why they would have started fighting the Wigan fans for no reason... can you? My guess is they got abuse hurled at them and responded with sarcastic abuse of their own regarding scoreline (fair enough?). Wigan chav (looking at clothing) fans punches Liverpool fan and we get the above picture.

Stella Artois

01-10-2007, 20:58

I reckon they went into a stand they shouldn't have been in, celebrated, caused trouble and got what they deserved.

You talk about the Wigan fans as though this is a regular thing - it isn't.

hitmanuk2k

02-10-2007, 00:22

I just think the whole thing in football about going into the 'other' end is ridiculous. Why is it only football which has these problems?

You can't tell me that one Liverpool fan honestly thought he could start shit in the Wigan end without being kicked to shit? I expect he just cheered a little when they scored and the result was the picture posted.

lfcboy

02-10-2007, 00:27

I just think the whole thing in football about going into the 'other' end is ridiculous. Why is it only football which has these problems?

You can't tell me that one Liverpool fan honestly thought he could start something in the Wigan end without being kicked to shit? I expect he just cheered a little when they scored and the result was the picture posted.

Thank you kind sir.

hitmanuk2k

02-10-2007, 00:29

Well LFCboy I am not saying Liverpool fans are angels... far from it. Just look at the amount of times they have 'rushed' the turnstiles at away European fixtures (completely not acceptable).

greenegg

02-10-2007, 08:47

Up the Argyle we always get kids draped in Manure, Arse or Pool clobber but the thing is we never play them so it will never cause trouble. At many a ground away fans sometimes obtain tickets for the home end but this doesn't often cause trouble but my guess is Liverpool thought they had the numbers and decided to celebrate and taunt the Wigan fans and some took exception to it.

Stella Artois

02-10-2007, 18:06

Well LFCboy I am not saying Liverpool fans are angels... far from it. Just look at the amount of times they have 'rushed' the turnstiles at away European fixtures (completely not acceptable).

Answer my question.

Why is it that this problem has only ever occured with Liverpool fans at Wigan? Plenty of other sides go in their section, yet their's no hint of any trouble.

hitmanuk2k

02-10-2007, 18:23

Liverpool probably has more travelling fans than any other club. Wigan probably has the least number of home fans than any other club. Loads of Liverpool fans will have been able to gain entry. The more fans, the more pished off the home fans will have been when they cheered for the goal. Then the chavs assault Liverpool fan.

Stella Artois

02-10-2007, 18:26

Now you're just making it up.

You've absolutely no figures to back that up.

But sure, for your sake, I'll pretend the Liverpool fans are innocent.

Dr. Bob Kelso

02-10-2007, 18:39

Don't worry mate, it'll all be the Wigan fans fault.

Guess who was there ?

Guess whose fault it was ?

2 Scousers and see that lad in the grey? He is now a Liverpool legend because he sparked 4 yes 4 Wiganers.

I met a lad after the game who was from Liverpool and his son was a Wigan fan. He takes him to every home game and he was threatened in this game WITH HIS SON.

I never had anything against Wigan before but then I went there.

Shithole full of wannabe mancs and not one of them was anywhere to be seen when we got outside.

Oh and I also saw one of their youth team get right up in the face of one of our disabled support and shout "boring" right in his grid.

It took every ounce of restriant I had in me and the fact the disabled lad just carried on singing for me not to end up getting a criminal record.

Stella Artois

02-10-2007, 18:39

I knew it'd only be a matter of time.

Dr. Bob Kelso

02-10-2007, 18:41

Lol I was sat in the Wigan section with my Dad, Mum and step-sister as my dad's boss has season tickets and he couldn't go and when Liverpool scored so many people jumped up and all the Wigan fans stood up going mad. The problem is they can't even fill their own fucking ground so away fans can get hold of any tickets. If they could fill their own ground none of this would happen.

Bang on. That and they all think they're mancs.

They should be like they have the same hypocritical attitude to Scousers.

"Town full of Smackheads", Michael Shileds songs and the like.

I thought it was Paul Jewel who had a massive say in where they got to and I was sure he was scouse.

Wrong again I guess.

Oh and their away pub is a wacky warehouse.

Sums it up really.

Shithole, shit fans and I hope they get relegated.

nath_scfc

02-10-2007, 18:59

Tbh, both are a pack of cunts.

Dr. Bob Kelso

02-10-2007, 19:02

Up the Argyle we always get kids draped in Manure, Arse or Pool clobber but the thing is we never play them so it will never cause trouble. At many a ground away fans sometimes obtain tickets for the home end but this doesn't often cause trouble but my guess is Liverpool thought they had the numbers and decided to celebrate and taunt the Wigan fans and some took exception to it.

You guess wrong. They just celebrated as did I. No one did a thing to me though.

We did have the numbers like but the shitbags who started that kick off were long gone before the away end were let out.

Let's see how many they bring up to Anfield. I'll be there.

Definitely Maybe

02-10-2007, 21:28

Guess who was there ?

Guess whose fault it was ?

2 Scousers and see that lad in the grey? He is now a Liverpool legend because he sparked 4 yes 4 Wiganers.

I met a lad after the game who was from Liverpool and his son was a Wigan fan. He takes him to every home game and he was threatened in this game WITH HIS SON.

I never had anything against Wigan before but then I went there.

Shithole full of wannabe mancs and not one of them was anywhere to be seen when we got outside.

Oh and I also saw one of their youth team get right up in the face of one of our disabled support and shout "boring" right in his grid.

It took every ounce of restriant I had in me and the fact the disabled lad just carried on singing for me not to end up getting a criminal record.

:laugh: Fucking hell man

Stella Artois

02-10-2007, 21:31

I know, what a tough guy, eh?

Shame he looks like a gimp.

tomo1811

04-10-2007, 00:54

There was a fair few in the home end when we played them, clad in replica tops, all with either Gerrard or Carragher on the back. I don't have a problem with it to be honest, although you're asking for trouble wearing your shirt.

bang on! i went to villa v wolves, and went in the holte end, if i wore a wolves shirt i was gettin slapped but i never cos ive got bastard common sense.

but whats the crack down at fulham.. the away end has both home and away if im right?

Definitely Maybe

04-10-2007, 01:07

bang on! i went to villa v wolves, and went in the holte end, if i wore a wolves shirt i was gettin slapped but i never cos ive got bastard common sense.

but whats the crack down at fulham.. the away end has both home and away if im right?

They have the away end, then next to the away end they have a "neutral end", which was their genius ploy to get all the Japanese tourists in that never came off. The away and neutral end both use the same turnstiles though, so you'll be walking about amongst home fans at half time - it's very surreal. :unsure:

Dr. Bob Kelso

04-10-2007, 18:08

I know, what a tough guy, eh?

Shame he looks like a gimp.

Hang on lad i've seen you. I could deal with you with half a left.

And no that wasn't a threat because if I wasted my time with every mouthy londoner flid like you who has internet access i'd have a better record than Ali retired with.

Ziss

04-10-2007, 18:39

I, like many others on here, would prolly pay to see a fight between you two.

Dr. Bob Kelso

04-10-2007, 19:12

I, like many others on here, would prolly pay to see a fight between you two.

How much ?

Stella Artois

04-10-2007, 19:21

Hang on lad i've seen you. I could deal with you with half a left.

And no that wasn't a threat because if I wasted my time with every mouthy londoner flid like you who has internet access i'd have a better record than Ali retired with.

Hahahaha. :(

Oh, and you never know, you may be seeing me sooner than you think.

Edit: Your geography is shit too. Nevermind, its not as if you'll ever get outside that shithole you call a city, is it?

Dr. Bob Kelso

04-10-2007, 19:22

Hahahaha. :(

Now go and collect your giro.

Oh, and you never know, you may be seeing me sooner than you think.

Witty and highly original.

I'm gripped with fear lad.

Stella Artois

04-10-2007, 19:24

Its interesting to see you assume that means I'm up for a fight - grow up.

I edited what I wrote as I saw no need for that comment. After all, you're supposedly at Uni, right?

cadey

04-10-2007, 19:24

Liverpool fans should not have been in the home end.

Liverpool fans should not have celebrated when their team scored or made a scene, which could provoke trouble amongst them and the Wigan supporters.

Who the fuck do you think you are to be going to an opposition's stadium, sitting in with their fucking home fans and then disrespecting them like that? I think it's disgraceful. It's a shame the Wigan fans didn't fucking murder the cunts.

It's funny because Liverpool are always the first to jump on the bandwagon and seek attention when something tragic happens. You're just a bunch of fucking jippos.

Plus, all this talk about fighting between you lot. Shut up, you're pathetic. Grow up you childish tossers and get your fucking homework done.

Dr. Bob Kelso

04-10-2007, 19:26

Liverpool fans should not have been in the home end.

Liverpool fans should not have celebrated when their team scored or made a scene, which could provoke trouble amongst them and the Wigan supporters.

Who the fuck do you think you are to be going to an opposition's stadium, sitting in with their fucking home fans and then disrespecting them like that? I think it's disgraceful. It's a shame the Wigan fans didn't fucking murder the cunts.

It's funny because Liverpool are always the first to jump on the bandwagon and seek attention when something tragic happens. You're just a bunch of fucking jippos.

Would that be Gypos ?

Too many people post on here to try and get a reaction and not to post what they actually think.

Like Stella the flid who is actually trying to intimidate me over the net but coming across as the nobend he actually is.

cadey

04-10-2007, 19:28

Would that be Gypos ?

Too many people post on here to try and get a reaction and not to post what they actually think.

Like Stella the flid who is actually trying to intimidate me over the net but coming across as the nobend he actually is.
It's a no brainer mate.

Would you like it if Wigan came to Anfield and had their fans sit in the Kop, then had the cheek to celebrate when they scored?! I'd go apeshit because it's unacceptable.

Stella Artois

04-10-2007, 19:31

Would that be Gypos ?

Too many people post on here to try and get a reaction and not to post what they actually think.

Like Stella the flid who is actually trying to intimidate me over the net but coming across as the nobend he actually is.

I thought you had me on ignore?

Intimidate you? Give me a break. You're the one threatening to beat me up. I wouldn't want to be within a hundred miles of you if I have to, but at the same time I'm not going to let a spastic like yourself threaten me. You're pathetic. If you want a fight go down the pub and start mouthing off.

:rolleyes:

Dr. Bob Kelso

04-10-2007, 19:36

It's a no brainer mate.

Would you like it if Wigan came to Anfield and had their fans sit in the Kop, then had the cheek to celebrate when they scored?! I'd go apeshit because it's unacceptable.

I've seen fans from different sides celebrate by me in the Kop and seen nothing of it. Few comments that weren't too nice but that was about it.

If you don't want a large number of away fans in the home end it's quite simple.

Sell out your piss poor ground.

Dr. Bob Kelso

04-10-2007, 19:40

I thought you had me on ignore?

Intimidate you? Give me a break. You're the one threatening to beat me up. I wouldn't want to be within a hundred miles of you if I have to, but at the same time I'm not going to let a spastic like yourself threaten me. You're pathetic. If you want a fight go down the pub and start mouthing off.

:rolleyes:

Had yeah. I thought I would see if you are still as big a gobshite as you were.

Congraulations you still are.

I didn't threaten to beat you up, my God you must lead some sheltered life if you are getting that upset over something so trivial. Spastic? What are we back in School?

I merely said I could leather you which I am all but certain that I could. I'm a pacifist though and I only fight when I have to no matter how many nobheads like yourself have a pop.

If by mouth off you mean speak your mind and not just change your opinion because people don't like it, I always do that. If you mean be a mouthy cunt who doesn't really stand for anything and has no informed opinions like yourself, i'll pass.

Thanks for the advice though.

Stella Artois

04-10-2007, 19:44

Tedious as ever.

Still, nevermind, at least I know not to cross a tough man like yourself. Thanks for the heads up big boy (in the literal sense too).

Cannon ball

04-10-2007, 20:58

Tedious as ever.

Still, nevermind, at least I know not to cross a tough man like yourself. Thanks for the heads up big boy (in the literal sense too).

I never knew he was fat. :ninja:

cadey

04-10-2007, 21:52

Sell out your piss poor ground.
Piss poor ground? Eastlands? That's fucking hilarious.

Definitely Maybe

04-10-2007, 21:53

Tedious as ever.

Still, nevermind, at least I know not to cross a tough man like yourself. Thanks for the heads up big boy (in the literal sense too).

Thats about the top and bottom of it :no:

Totally o/t but Stella - our train gets to Kings X at 11:30 on Sunday, would it be best to get the tube or just get a taxi to the ground? I'm not that bothered about seeing kick off like.

Dr. Bob Kelso

04-10-2007, 22:46

Piss poor ground? Eastlands? That's fucking hilarious.

I claerly meant the JJB.

nath_scfc

04-10-2007, 22:57

They have the away end, then next to the away end they have a "neutral end", which was their genius ploy to get all the Japanese tourists in that never came off. The away and neutral end both use the same turnstiles though, so you'll be walking about amongst home fans at half time - it's very surreal. :unsure:
Wasn't like this when we played them in the Cup. Mind, different ticketing allocations apply I think.

Liverpool fans should not have been in the home end.

Liverpool fans should not have celebrated when their team scored or made a scene, which could provoke trouble amongst them and the Wigan supporters.

Who the fuck do you think you are to be going to an opposition's stadium, sitting in with their fucking home fans and then disrespecting them like that? I think it's disgraceful. It's a shame the Wigan fans didn't fucking murder the cunts.
Exactly, I can think of many ways of this being avoided. I mean, we're not angels by any stretch and I've been to lots of games where I've seen Stoke away fans in home ends. However, they've shown respect inside the ground and congragated together away from home fans and near the away stand.

I remember us playing Chelsea in the Cup and some bell-ends were sat infront of my Uncle. They were giving a load of mouth and a bloke just asked them tone down there language a bit and these Chelsea hit the bloke. Needless to say about 30 Stoke fans jumped on these two and dragged them in the concourse and duly gave thema kicking they earned.

Although I re-itterate, Wigwam fans are cocks. Nothing to do with this, however.

Cannon ball

04-10-2007, 23:04

Dr. Bob Kelso

04-10-2007, 23:07

Wasn't like this when we played them in the Cup. Mind, different ticketing allocations apply I think.

Exactly, I can think of many ways of this being avoided. I mean, we're not angels by any stretch and I've been to lots of games where I've seen Stoke away fans in home ends. However, they've shown respect inside the ground and congragated together away from home fans and near the away stand.

I remember us playing Chelsea in the Cup and some bell-ends were sat infront of my Uncle. They were giving a load of mouth and a bloke just asked them tone down there language a bit and these Chelsea hit the bloke. Needless to say about 30 Stoke fans jumped on these two and dragged them in the concourse and duly gave thema kicking they earned.

Although I re-itterate, Wigwam fans are cocks. Nothing to do with this, however.

Congregating where the away fans were would have mean me getting our of my seat going over a barrier into a stand that I didn't have a ticket for and walking right over to a part of the ground where it was kicking off.

Wigan fans being cocks have everything to do with this. These Liverpool fans were clearly not kick off merchants because if they were they wouldn't have waited until we scored and they wouldn't have suffered the abuse related to the city and Michael Shields for so long.

The long and short of this is they celebrated a goal and some little no mark Wigan beauts had a pop. One lad dealt with four of them and the other lad managed to fend off a couple.

It wasn't only that place in the ground where it kicked off and the shithouse Wigan fans who did it were out of the ground long before full time because they knew what would have happened if they were identified.

Anyone who wants to come and sit in the Kop, who isn't wearing a rival kit and giving abuse will be fine. If you celebrate a goal you might get a few things said like I did at Wigan but I doubt you are going to get a kicking.

Bottom line is I applauded Wigan on and off the field, they gave a good account of themselves as a side and only their fans are gobshites. The team played with heart and had a real go. Scharner particularly impressed me.

We were warned about going for a bevy after the game but still went. We didn't hang around on account of the fact we couldn't find an alehouse with Setanta.

AgentZero

04-10-2007, 23:14

I just think the whole thing in football about going into the 'other' end is ridiculous. Why is it only football which has these problems?

You can't tell me that one Liverpool fan honestly thought he could start shit in the Wigan end without being kicked to shit? I expect he just cheered a little when they scored and the result was the picture posted.

You lose atmosphere, if fans sit next to their opponents. Most due to respect for the opposition will not chant, sing and carry on as they would if they were with like minded people.
An example to note was when the Ashes were here they had systematically spread all of the barmies around the stadium and even though it is cricket, atmosphere was wank. Football should never lose the passion and atmosphere that is evident in most games.

Definitely Maybe

04-10-2007, 23:19

Congregating where the away fans were would have mean me getting our of my seat going over a barrier into a stand that I didn't have a ticket for and walking right over to a part of the ground where it was kicking off.

Wigan fans being cocks have everything to do with this. These Liverpool fans were clearly not kick off merchants because if they were they wouldn't have waited until we scored and they wouldn't have suffered the abuse related to the city and Michael Shields for so long.

The long and short of this is they celebrated a goal and some little no mark Wigan beauts had a pop. One lad dealt with four of them and the other lad managed to fend off a couple.

It wasn't only that place in the ground where it kicked off and the shithouse Wigan fans who did it were out of the ground long before full time because they knew what would have happened if they were identified.

Anyone who wants to come and sit in the Kop, who isn't wearing a rival kit and giving abuse will be fine. If you celebrate a goal you might get a few things said like I did at Wigan but I doubt you are going to get a kicking.

Bottom line is I applauded Wigan on and off the field, they gave a good account of themselves as a side and only their fans are gobshites. The team played with heart and had a real go. Scharner particularly impressed me.

We were warned about going for a bevy after the game but still went. We didn't hang around on account of the fact we couldn't find an alehouse with Setanta.

You must admit though, it does sound a bit like the boy who cried wolf? This isn't the first time (nor indeed the second, third, or whatever) that Liverpool fans have turned up en masse without tickets for their designated end and trouble has occurred. Before you start, I'm not having a pop at Hillsborough.

You story may indeed be totally true (though I doubt it, it is human nature to exaggerate), but it runs thin after the umpteenth time.

That is also why you suffer so much abuse on this forum - I actually agree with a lot of what you say, but you're like a broken record. The words of your posts may be different, but almost every single one translates into "It wasn't me, Sir, it was him." Me being Liverpool in general.

Sully

04-10-2007, 23:21

Whatever spin you put on it Liverpool should not have been in the home fans section

nath_scfc

04-10-2007, 23:22

"Congregating where the away fans were would have mean me getting our of my seat going over a barrier into a stand that I didn't have a ticket for and walking right over to a part of the ground where it was kicking off."
Why didn't you buy a ticket nearer that end, or in the away end?

"Wigan fans being cocks have everything to do with this. These Liverpool fans were clearly not kick off merchants because if they were they wouldn't have waited until we scored and they wouldn't have suffered the abuse related to the city and Michael Shields for so long."

Erm, isn't that just banter?

But basically, I aren't that arsed which is why I'm just stating my opinion that Liverpool fans aren't the victims here. However, I've witnessed Wigan fans being utter bell-ends in the past, that said, I can understand Wigan fans kicking off.

Dr. Bob Kelso

04-10-2007, 23:24

"Congregating where the away fans were would have mean me getting our of my seat going over a barrier into a stand that I didn't have a ticket for and walking right over to a part of the ground where it was kicking off."
Why didn't you buy a ticket nearer that end, or in the away end?

"Wigan fans being cocks have everything to do with this. These Liverpool fans were clearly not kick off merchants because if they were they wouldn't have waited until we scored and they wouldn't have suffered the abuse related to the city and Michael Shields for so long."

Erm, isn't that just banter?

But basically, I aren't that arsed which is why I'm just stating my opinion that Liverpool fans aren't the victims here. However, I've witnessed Wigan fans being utter bell-ends in the past, that said, I can understand Wigan fans kicking off.

How is that banter. Banter if friendly ribbing not laughing at a lad who has been fucked over by an archaic justice system and the like.

They are wannabe Mancs and I never knew that till I went there.

nath_scfc

04-10-2007, 23:30

How is that banter. Banter if friendly ribbing not laughing at a lad who has been fucked over by an archaic justice system and the like.

They are wannabe Mancs and I never knew that till I went there.

What happened with us was far, far worse. And the banter suggestion was mainly directed at the city jibes. Has there ever been concrete evidence that Shields didn't do it?

Going back to my first question, 'why didn't you buy a ticket nearer that end, or in the away end?'

And both these questions aren't me being arsey or patronsising, they are genuine questions.

The Messiah

04-10-2007, 23:34

Dr. Bob Kelso

05-10-2007, 00:03

What happened with us was far, far worse. And the banter suggestion was mainly directed at the city jibes. Has there ever been concrete evidence that Shields didn't do it?

Going back to my first question, 'why didn't you buy a ticket nearer that end, or in the away end?'

And both these questions aren't me being arsey or patronsising, they are genuine questions.

There are a lot of occasions where concrete evidence is never provided and the person in question is let go. No one knows only him. Personally I am inclined to think he didn't do it because he is still so adamant despite having all but served his time. And why would Graham Sankey (think that was the lads name) come forward and accept responsibility for a crime he never commited?

Makes no sense.

We will never know. It isn't really the point. The point is that everyone deserves a fair trial and the lad clearly never got one.

If I could have got hold of a ticket for the away end I certainly would have. It is a natural compulsion to want to sit amoungst your own fans. When we scored I was one of the few people who jumped up and celebrated. Watching the away end was a sight to behold, it went mental.

lfcboy

05-10-2007, 00:06

There are a lot of occasions where concrete evidence is never provided and the person in question is let go. No one knows only him. Personally I am inclined to think no because he is still so adamant despite having all but served his time.

We will never know. It isn't really the point. The point is that everyone deserves a fair trial and the lad clearly never got one.

If I could have got hold of a ticket for the away end I certainly would have. It is a natural compulsion to want to sit amoungst your own fans. When we scored I was one of the few people who jumped up and celebrated. Watching the away end was a sight to behold, it went mental.

Order in the court!

Stella Artois

05-10-2007, 14:52

Thats about the top and bottom of it :no:

Totally o/t but Stella - our train gets to Kings X at 11:30 on Sunday, would it be best to get the tube or just get a taxi to the ground? I'm not that bothered about seeing kick off like.

If you're around later I'll let you know as I've got to go to a lecture in 2 minutes and don't have time to explain.

I believe there are engineering works planned so I'll need to look into it later.

Edit: Don't go on the Tube, there are definite works going ahead according to the Transport for London website.

I might be wrong, but I believe it's a half hour walk (I never have to go to Kings Cross, so I could be wrong).

If there's a few of you, taking a Taxi may be the best option, unless you're willing to jump on a bus.

Stella Artois

05-10-2007, 17:12

How is that banter. Banter if friendly ribbing not laughing at a lad who has been fucked over by an archaic justice system and the like.

They are wannabe Mancs and I never knew that till I went there.

Someone hurt that bloke, if he has to take the rap for it, so be it.

Perhaps the coward who did it should have had the guts to speak up.