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Bullshit. Someone asked me a question about Lupoli, and I made it quite clear I have only seen hima few times, and in those games, he didnt make much of an impression on me (which was also what the commentators and probably Wenger thought, since he subbed him). I didnt even bring up Bergkamp, plus I like lots and lots of players that dont even come close to Bergkamp's skills. I just like to see intelligence, hard work, creativity, etc in a player, which Lupoli didnt show in those few matches I saw of him.
However, I openly said I havent seen much of the guy, so I CAN NOT make a fair judgement on him, and that I have been hearing a lot of good stuff about his performances in the reserves.
So why even try and stir up some shit?Actually I was talking about the way you went on about Inzaghi.
Actually I was talking about the way you went on about Inzaghi.
I dont think ANYONE who loves football, could like Inzagi. No matter of you're a fan of Bergkamp or not, that guy is a diving biatch who's always whining. He's a good striker as he makes many goals, but I would never be a fan of him or his style.
I made the comparison because I didnt see anything from lupoli (in those very few matches I saw him in), that made me go:'owww.. yeah that's quite good', so I made the assumption (and I said I certainly couldnt know for sure if I would be correct) that he might be one of those players like Inzaghi who has no real stand-out skills, but is the kind of player that's just always on the end of an attack, in the right place at the right time, to tap the ball in.
I dont think ANYONE who loves football, could like Inzagi. No matter of you're a fan of Bergkamp or not, that guy is a diving biatch who's always whining. He's a good striker as he makes many goals, but I would never be a fan of him or his style.
I made the comparison because I didnt see anything from lupoli (in those very few matches I saw him in), that made me go:'owww.. yeah that's quite good', so I made the assumption (and I said I certainly couldnt know for sure if I would be correct) that he might be one of those players like Inzaghi who has no real stand-out skills, but is the kind of player that's just always on the end of an attack, in the right place at the right time, to tap the ball in.No matter mate just a matter of crossed wires. Whatever happens I wish you a Happy New Year for next year. :)
No matter mate just a matter of crossed wires. Whatever happens I wish you a Happy New Year for next year. :)
"Whatever happens" :erm:
Yi-Long, watch you back man...sounds as though Jonny is planning something bad :unsure:
pistolpete
31-12-2006, 20:13
Any chance of that thug Morgan getting punished by tv evidence for punching RVP in the gut?- RVP should have given him another black eye.
Any chance that he was knocking on the dressing room door to apologize like Mculloch did to him?
Thought not - on both counts.
The game doesnt need ''players'' like him - Sheff Utd never change - i remember an fa cup game a few years ago when Cullip stamped on Cescs head, Bergkamp pushed him away - and he got sent off!
Any chance of that thug Morgan getting punished by tv evidence for punching RVP in the gut?- RVP should have given him another black eye.
He was an absolute twat. KnockingRobin all over the place, then playing the innocent game to the ref, coming over to check on RVP when he was down injured or whatever.
He's a shit player with ni skills of sportsmanshp at all. IT's grates at me to see players like him in Premiership, they must have just been in the right place at the right time to get picked up by their clubs.
Any chance of that thug Morgan getting punished by tv evidence for punching RVP in the gut?- RVP should have given him another black eye.
Any chance that he was knocking on the dressing room door to apologize like Mculloch did to him?
Thought not - on both counts.
The game doesnt need ''players'' like him - Sheff Utd never change - i remember an fa cup game a few years ago when Cullip stamped on Cescs head, Bergkamp pushed him away - and he got sent off!
Well...as soon as the FA figure out how to use video evidence properly...for replays...or for fining manager(?!?!) or diving...it'll be done.... Until then...bugger it...and only the result mattered and we didn't do enough at Sheffield. Credit to them for playing and going for it. Sometimes we are just a bunch of posies! :no:
Happy New Year to all Arsenal fans on Earth.
:)
:erm:
:D
martin_cranie
01-01-2007, 05:24
That Akinfeev story had better turn out great!
Happy new year everyone.
pistolpete
01-01-2007, 13:14
Im willing to hold my hands up and say that Sheff Utd deserved 3 points but there would be no hesitation in banning an Arsenal player if the shoe was on the other foot.
My goodness im becoming paranoid, Wenger has influenced my mind!
No matter mate just a matter of crossed wires. Whatever happens I wish you a Happy New Year for next year. :)
Aw ok. Glad we're on the same page now. :)
Ofcourse a happy new year to you as well, as well as to everyone else on these boards...
Let's hope Arsenal can climb out of that hole they're in at the moment, do well in the CL (although... wait... they have to play PSV... ehm taking that back), and just get their act together and will be ready for next season.
-Jamster-
02-01-2007, 08:27
With all our injuries, it seems that Wenger is set to play Henry up front with Van Persie although he isn't really match fit yet. Just hope he doesn't pick up another injury.
calculus
02-01-2007, 11:47
With all our injuries, it seems that Wenger is set to play Henry up front with Van Persie although he isn't really match fit yet. Just hope he doesn't pick up another injury.
I think he will start against Liverpool in the FA Cup!
Whats up with A. Stokes? Is he good or not? I see this guy scoring goals all the time for Falkirk but now his loan has expired I keep seeing rumours we're going to sell him or send him back out on loan!:rolleyes:
Happy new year to all Arsenal fans and football fans alike!
Stokes...well....he's a good bloke it seems for the Scottish leagues...don't know if we can use him at Arsenal though....
VP, Walcott, Baptista, Adebayour all injured...well...Wenger....wha t's the magic formula? We'll see vs. Charlton tonight!
Quick question; Will Arsenal vs Liverpool be broadcast on BBC1/BBC1 live this saturday?
I didnt really catch what Lineker said about it...
Quick question; Will Arsenal vs Liverpool be broadcast on BBC1/BBC1 live this saturday?
I didnt really catch what Lineker said about it...
Yes
Stella Artois
02-01-2007, 12:32
Arsène Wenger will wait as long as possible before naming his team for tonight's game against Charlton.
The Arsenal manager went into Saturday's game at Sheffield United without nine first-team players. Of those Alexander Hleb appears to have the best chance of returning to the squad while Thierry Henry was due for an assessment on New Year's Day. However Julio Baptista has joined the injury list.
"At the moment it is difficult to say [who will play against Charlton]," Wenger told Arsenal TV Online on Sunday.
"Hleb certainly has a chance, Henry I will see about. It looks like Emmanuel Eboue will not be back and Emmanuel Adebayor will still be out. We have a few uncertainties from Sheffield United - Robin van Persie got a knock on his ankle and Baptista will be out definitely. He had a kick and has a bad ankle.
"We have to assess the situation as late as possible."
For the record the nine players who missed the defeat at Bramall Lane were: Henry (hamstring), Freddie Ljungberg (hamstring), William Gallas (thigh), Eboue (ankle), Abou Diaby (ankle), Adebayor (thigh), Johan Djourou (hamstring), Theo Walcott (back) and Hleb (shin).
Christ, why does it always happen to us?
Christ, why does it always happen to us?Try having 14 players out injured. ;)
Stella Artois
02-01-2007, 12:42
Been done. We had our eigth choice left-back last season...
-Jamster-
02-01-2007, 12:51
If anyone wants it, i've got a stream for the Charlton game.
http://www.live-footy.org/
pistolpete
02-01-2007, 13:04
Maybe trying Rosicky in a more advanced role would be an option tonight as we are short of strikers and he has been struggling out wide - looks to be much more comfortable popping up in central positions, and please someone tell him to shoot - he seems to have caught Hleb disease, and we all know he can do ity from long range.
Yes
Awesome. My girlfriend won't like it though... :D But still it's a classic, so she doesnt have a choice in the matter... :D
calculus
02-01-2007, 16:21
If anyone wants it, i've got a stream for the Charlton game.
http://www.live-footy.org/
Your a super hero :cool:
Viperized
02-01-2007, 18:04
Christ, why does it always happen to us?
We could potentially have 11 players missing the game against Charlton.
Viperized
02-01-2007, 18:58
Henry is starting tonight. Confirmed on SSN.
Henry is starting tonight. Confirmed on SSN.
Tad risky don't you think?
Rossy Boy
02-01-2007, 19:00
Wheey thank god
If we win now, the one man team jibes will come crawling out.
Pathetic.
Dragonfly
02-01-2007, 19:40
Thierry Henry is back for the first time since November and Robin van Persie and Alexander Hleb are fit to starthttp://www.arsenal.com/index.asp
Good news.
Stella Artois
02-01-2007, 20:44
It's a shame my fucking computer sucks balls, as I've been unable to watch the first half. Sounds like we've played well and i'm happy we're 2-0 up.
Down with that scumbag Pardew!
Yeah Hoyte bags one just before half-time.
Great time for a goal.
Rossy Boy
02-01-2007, 21:31
3-0 RVP pen
Stella Artois
02-01-2007, 21:44
About time we put in a performance like that.
:<
Fingers crossed they can finally manage to bring that form into the next match as well...
How were the goals? There's no MOTD tonight, and dutch Tv isnt showing them either. Any beauties?
Chelsea dropped points again...
What do you guys think? Is the title already Manchester's?
pistolpete
02-01-2007, 22:33
I hope Wenger ran and celebrated right in Pardews technical area - 4times!
Good win tonight lads but Charlton are very poor.
Big test Saturday, anyone know if we have players due back for the FA cup game at Liverpool?
Good win, though it must be said, Charlton really are awful and made it quite easy for us. I also would've liked us to score a few more from open play, the amount of chances we wasted was amazing. But then again, can't really complain when we score twice, get two penalties, hit the post twice, have two efforts cleared off the line, have a goal incorrectly ruled out, and miss about four other clear chances. If only Fabregas could finish...
It'll be interesting to see if van Persie can keep up his form, he's currently got ten goals in the league, and I don't see why he couldn't get 20, considering he's spent half of the season so far playing on the left and has just recently started playing up front.
CaptainCabinet
02-01-2007, 22:47
Has to be said Charlton were shit, and the first wasn't a pen.
He wasn't active but became active when the player fouled him, I realise this is a catch 22 situation (or something along those lines) but I am pretty sure the ref was wrong. That is just my understanding and lets be fair no-one really knows what's going on at the moment. :tongue:
Viperized
02-01-2007, 22:57
Scoreline today should've been 8-0 to be honest. Got the 3 points and 4-0 is a great result though.
greenegg
02-01-2007, 23:06
If we win now, the one man team jibes will come crawling out.
Pathetic.
omg 1 man team innit lolzozlzolzozl henry iz u only goal
omg 1 man team innit lolzozlzolzozl henry iz u only goal
:laugh:
Plymouth who?
:ninja:
Yeah Hoyte bags one just before half-time.
Great time for a goal.
First goal by an ENGLISHMAN since Sept 2005 (Sol Campbell's double)...surprised that so many papers are making so much out of it!
I'm just happy that Hoyte seems to be improving...and what a great way to captain your team by being a provider as well as a finisher Henry! He had one penalty...gave the ball to VP for his spot kick...and helped do the one two with Hoyte...not bad going. He seems refreshed!
Charlton were bad I hear...so it was an easy training match..but really...we should have actually played with the same gusto against Sheffield...even on a crap pitch....somehow...we've got to sort ourselves out....need to be better against PSV etc....
Charlton suck end of, they are making Sunderland nervous over the lowest points total in a season :ninja:
For anyone who missed the goals....thanks to soccerblog.
http://www.soccerblog.com/2007/01/video_henry_helps_arsenal_to_4 .htm
Charlton suck end of, they are making Sunderland nervous over the lowest points total in a season :ninja:
LOL Rafa....with Darren Bent out for a month....you could be right...
pistolpete
03-01-2007, 08:34
Great goal by Hoyte, great finish, nice of Thierry to give RVP the ball on the 2nd penalty, great to have him back, he looks hungry now - bring on Liverpool, hopefully with Henry fit again and RVP scoring the goals we can give them a good game.
They suck anyway, Liverpool beat them with Bent playing :ninja:
For anyone who missed the goals....thanks to soccerblog.
http://www.soccerblog.com/2007/01/video_henry_helps_arsenal_to_4 .htm
Cool stuff. Thanks man.
Arsenal looked very sharp there. Also nice to see Ian Wright make a return, however he aint very good in defence: he pulled Henry down. :)
Cool stuff. Thanks man.
Arsenal looked very sharp there. Also nice to see Ian Wright make a return, however he aint very good in defence: he pulled Henry down. :)
No worries - good blog there...short and to the point...and with the important stuff!
LOL RE: Ian Wright...nah...I thought he looked more like...Darren Bent but in defense!
Liverpool will be fun to watch...is Cesc out for that game? I can't remember...
Ronaldo_is_fat
03-01-2007, 12:07
Cool stuff. Thanks man.
Arsenal looked very sharp there. Also nice to see Ian Wright make a return, however he aint very good in defence: he pulled Henry down. :)
Heh a legend thats Wright does not belong to a shit team that Padrew manages.
Does it matter, we will win anyway :ninja:
With Villa upfront :ninja:
I wish :crymore:
Viperized
03-01-2007, 12:55
omg 1 man team innit lolzozlzolzozl henry iz u only goal
lolzolzolzolzolz it wuz van persie who scored ze brace!!11 olololz.
Viperized
03-01-2007, 13:01
Heh a legend thats Wright does not belong to a shit team that Padrew manages.
He does look a lot like Wright though.
Stella Artois
03-01-2007, 13:08
Has to be said Charlton were shit, and the first wasn't a pen.
He wasn't active but became active when the player fouled him, I realise this is a catch 22 situation (or something along those lines) but I am pretty sure the ref was wrong. That is just my understanding and lets be fair no-one really knows what's going on at the moment. :tongue:
He wasn't wrong, you're wrong.
Read the rules.
Returning Henry hails Van Persie
Arsenal captain Thierry Henry believes Robin van Persie can become one of the best players in the Premiership.
Henry returned from a five-week lay-off to inspire the Gunners to a 4-0 win over Charlton, but afterwards he was keen to praise two-goal Van Persie.
"He's shown ever since he arrived here that he is a scorer of great goals.
"He has the ability to be one of the best players in the league. He has matured a lot and he does stuff in training that I have rarely seen."
Henry scored the opener against Charlton from the spot before setting up Justin Hoyte for the second.
Souleymane Diawara's foul on the French striker allowed Van Persie to score the third from the spot before the Dutchman completely the win with a deft chip.
Gunners boss Arsene Wenger revealed Henry had stepped aside to let Van Persie take the second penalty.
"Van Persie has grown in confidence and presence and had a very sharp game tonight," said Wenger.
"He is on the list of penalty-takers and only the captain can decide if someone else is to take it. Thierry is number one, Robin is number three and Thierry gave it to him."
Wenger was delighted to see his captain return and believes he can lift Arsenal in the second half of the season.
"He's in a good frame of mind now because he has been at the end of his physical and mental potential," he said.
"He is refreshed and has come back hungry and fresh.
"I'm convinced you will see a great Thierry Henry from now until the end of May.
"We have a lot to go for. Maybe in the league, we are very, very far behind but we want to do as well as we can.
"We go in the Champions League, we have the FA Cup on Saturday at Liverpool, we are in the quarter-finals of the Carling Cup as well.
"A good Thierry Henry can make the difference in the big games."
Seems like spirits are high after last night :cool:
The FA has charged Chris Morgan with violent conduct relating to the incident with Van Persie.
Dragonfly
03-01-2007, 19:21
Good. That was disgraceful.
There is a god!
Down with the dirty, and greatly untalented bastard.
Rossy Boy
03-01-2007, 19:34
Good
He wasn't wrong, you're wrong.
Read the rules.
Actually, i think he's right. At the moment Henry shot the ball at goal, van persie was offside. Now if that ball goes in, he isnt taking part in the game, nor is he a hinderence, so plays goes on (obviously), but once the rebound happened, Van Persie suddenly benefitted from his offside position, and because he was offside during the shot, the linesman should have flagged. The foul would then be after play is paused... so penalty shouldnt have been.
At least, that's the way the offside rule worked last time I checked...
...but, it's been known to have been changed a few times these last couple of years, especially when it comes to this kinda situation.
Dragonfly
03-01-2007, 20:15
Your way should be right, Yi-Long, but I think Stella is right on this one.
pistolpete
03-01-2007, 22:04
The FA has charged Chris Morgan with violent conduct relating to the incident with Van Persie.
Im surprised, there didnt seem to be much if any media coversge on it,
Its good though,
Anyway il have to eat my words.
Well....the FA still needs to get smarted and sharper with these things....especially if it affects teh game. If we had lost...well...we would still have lost no matter if someone was charged afterwards.
I feel sorry for those teams refereed by Poll....he made so many cockups to affect the game...you need a movie length video to see how it turned the games sometimes! Tsk tsk....
Anyway....onto Liverpool....and Gerrard says "gunners should be scared". Liverpool have won 6/7 games now...and leapfrogged us in the league. Not bad going. But a cup game is a cup game...who knows what will happen. Seems like VP is banned for the match though....damn...
calculus
04-01-2007, 09:19
For anyone who missed the goals....thanks to soccerblog.
http://www.soccerblog.com/2007/01/video_henry_helps_arsenal_to_4 .htm
Thanks to soccerblog:cool:
pistolpete
04-01-2007, 12:07
Seems like VP is banned for the match though....damn...
Im dont think that RVP is banned, he is up to 8 yellows, his next ban coming at 10 yellows, but Cesc is definately suspended - he got his 5th yellow of the season at Sheff Utd.
Bammers05
04-01-2007, 13:15
The FA has charged Chris Morgan with violent conduct relating to the incident with Van Persie.
This is why:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PHCEeBLs0E
To be honest, anyone intentionally hitting someone else on a football pitch should have to serve a ban of at least two or three matches.
pistolpete
04-01-2007, 21:46
Eboue fit for Liverpool game, also close to returning are Baptista, Lauren, Gallas, Theo,
Ade should be back for the Blackburn game,
Fredy and Diaby are training again and shouldnt be long.
Looks like our injuries are slowly clearing up - at last - seems like Gallas has been out forever, but i suppose thats give Djourou a chance.
Stella Artois
04-01-2007, 21:50
Actually, i think he's right. At the moment Henry shot the ball at goal, van persie was offside. Now if that ball goes in, he isnt taking part in the game, nor is he a hinderence, so plays goes on (obviously), but once the rebound happened, Van Persie suddenly benefitted from his offside position, and because he was offside during the shot, the linesman should have flagged. The foul would then be after play is paused... so penalty shouldnt have been.
At least, that's the way the offside rule worked last time I checked...
...but, it's been known to have been changed a few times these last couple of years, especially when it comes to this kinda situation.
Actually, Van Persie would ONLY have been offside had he touched the ball, he didn't meaning that irrespective of the fact he was offside, he was fouled and therefore the appropiate punishment was handed out.
It's a shit rule, but don't blame me. ;)
Just beat Liverpool 4-1 on PES5 lads, so don't worry, we're going to run out easy winners. ;)
vanNistelrooy
04-01-2007, 21:50
I thought Baptista played vs Sheff Utd?
Stella Artois
04-01-2007, 21:52
He did? Your point being?
Rossy Boy
04-01-2007, 22:52
Eboue fit for Liverpool game, also close to returning are Baptista, Lauren, Gallas, Theo,
Ade should be back for the Blackburn game,
Fredy and Diaby are training again and shouldnt be long.
Looks like our injuries are slowly clearing up - at last - seems like Gallas has been out forever, but i suppose thats give Djourou a chance.
glad to hear about that we did get it bad with injuries so far this season lets hope for no more
Viperized
04-01-2007, 23:12
Its a shame we're missing Cesc.
Flamini in the middle doesn't exactly inspire me with confidence. Flamini will struggle against Gerrard or Alonso imo.
Our 'wide' players and Gilberto will have to be up to their very best if we are to win. Hleb's and Rosicky's performance is absolutely vital.
Van Persie is in good form at the moment and Henry has looked sharp since his return. Our defence is fine and I'm not worried at all. Eboue is back too so that is a plus.
My guess we'll use this team:
................Lehmann
Eboue...Toure...Senderos...Cli chy
Hleb...Flamini...Gilberto...Ro sicky
......Van Persie....Henry
It doesn't look too bad but clearly Flamini is the weak-link in that team. He'll have to play well for sure.
A draw would cause our fixture schedule to clot up further.
i wish arsnal do well becuase you will be happy with ur preformences and not needing the quality player you have at birmingham like bentdner larrson and muamba!
Seems like we've sold Mr. Stokes....to Charlton...if you can believe this fansite...
http://www.addickted.net/newsitem.php?id=245
Maybe Baptista could fill in for Flamini in your formation Viperized....if he is fit.
Not on the Arsenal site so I you can't say it's true
Van Persie is suspended for the game, as is Cesc.
Ronaldo_is_fat
05-01-2007, 11:21
I am not so worried because Henry is playing. Losing both of our most in formed players is a huge blow because it seems that Fabregas is the only player at the moment who provides us with creativity. With his absent we can only hope for the best of Rosicky and Hleb.
Viperized
05-01-2007, 13:40
Now Van Persie is out?
I can't see us winning now unfortunately.
Dragonfly
05-01-2007, 13:45
Mathieu Flamini is likely to start in midfield in place of Fabregas, with Julio Baptista possibly in line to start in attack in the absence of van Persie.
Emmanuel Eboue is fit again after a knee injury and he is set to return to the starting line-up, while Lauren and Johan Djourou are also available to play.
I think we'll win.
This is why:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PHCEeBLs0E
To be honest, anyone intentionally hitting someone else on a football pitch should have to serve a ban of at least two or three matches.
He is he's been banned for 3 games.
calculus
05-01-2007, 17:32
Now Van Persie is out?
I can't see us winning now unfortunately.
Thats a shame we,ve beaten big teams with worse players!:cool:
-Jamster-
05-01-2007, 17:36
Hopefully Reina will perform like how he did against Everton.
Dragonfly
05-01-2007, 17:41
Brazil will play Portugal at the Emirates Stadium.
http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=439607&CPID=8&clid=3&lid=&title=Samba+stars+to+visit+Emi rates
There's no date mentioned though.
Bammers05
05-01-2007, 17:44
Seems like we've sold Mr. Stokes....to Charlton...
Looks like you're right:
Charlton Athletic and Sunderland have both agreed a fee with Arsenal for the striker Anthony Stokes, BBC Scotland understands.
It is now up to the 18-year-old Stokes to decide what he wants to do.
The Irishman spent the first half of the season at Falkirk, but his loan spell ended at Christmas before returning to the Gunners.
Celtic are also interested in the player who netted 14 SPL goals in his spell with the Bairns.
Source:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/f/falkirk/6235101.stm
Shame, he was a good young player
calculus
05-01-2007, 19:14
Looks like you're right:
Source:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/f/falkirk/6235101.stm
Shame, he was a good young player
So why are we selling him then? Hes only 18scored with regularity in the SPL and seems to be a predatory type striker that we supposedly need! :rolleyes:
Brazil will play Portugal at the Emirates Stadium.
http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=439607&CPID=8&clid=3&lid=&title=Samba+stars+to+visit+Emi rates
There's no date mentioned though.
February 6th!
Stella Artois
05-01-2007, 22:44
I never believed he'd make it (Stokes that is). Good luck to him wherever he goes.
Anyone know why Van Persie is banned?
pistolpete
05-01-2007, 23:48
Wenger says on the Arsenal site that action in the January transfer window is like rain outside, and he is sitting inside watching through the window?!
I'd also like to know why RVP is suspended - im not convinced that he is.
Viperized
05-01-2007, 23:51
Van Persie isn't suspended.
pistolpete
06-01-2007, 00:01
I checked on BBC and he has 8 yellows, suspensions come at 5yellows 10yellows 15yellows etc, and he hasnt been sent off.
I think rafa is either stirring or needs to check his facts.
It said in the Arsenal - Liverpool preview on skysports that VP is suspended.
Read the bold part.
Liverpool play host to Arsenal in arguably the pick of the ties in the FA Cup third round.
Click here to vote on the outcome of the game
The game will be the first of two meetings in 72 hours with both sides set to face each other in the Carling Cup next Tuesday.
The tie is a repeat of the 2001 final when Liverpool overcame Arsenal 2-1 at the Millennium Stadium.
Arsenal make the trip to Anfield without key duo Cesc Fabregas and Robin van Persie as they serve a one-match suspension.
Mathieu Flamini is likely to start in midfield in place of Fabregas, with Julio Baptista possibly in line to start in attack in the absence of van Persie.
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger is still without Emmanuel Adebayor, Freddie Ljungberg, William Gallas and Theo Walcott with the latter two possibly in line for a return in the Carling Cup.
Emmanuel Eboue is fit again after a knee injury and he is set to return to the starting line-up, while Lauren and Johan Djourou are also available to play.
Liverpool are sweating over the fitness of Craig Bellamy ahead of the game after he missed the New Year's Day win over Bolton.
Should Bellamy miss out again Dirk Kuyt and Peter Crouch are likely to lead the attack after they both scored against Bolton.
Jermaine Pennant will be aiming to keep his place in the side after his impressive showing against Bolton.
Long-term casualties Harry Kewell, Mohamed Sissoko and Bolo Zenden are still missing for Rafa Benitez's men.
Source (http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=439508&CPID=1&clid=3&lid=&title=Liverpool+v+Arsenal+prev iew)
Misprint, arsenal.com said the same thing, so they probably got the info from that. Van Persie is eligible.
pistolpete
06-01-2007, 15:30
Oh dear Rafa, your source fooled you, hopefully RVP scores and we beat you!
Looking forward to a good game, i think Henry will be up for it, FA Cup, our trophy over the last few years, cmon you gunners!
Good game guys.
You'll win, we have safe hands Dudek in goal...
Wow, Almunia playing for you guys, maybe it evens itself out :huh:
vanNistelrooy
06-01-2007, 17:19
C'MON ARSENAL!
Think Liverpool will win 2-1, but I hope you win. Either that or a draw, followed by an Arsenal win.
Dudek you stupid Polish fanny
If we had Reina in goal instead over that stupid Polish keeper it would be 0-0. Dudek why the fuck was he off his line.
Dudek a all new level of shitness, I'm going to shoot the fucker.
He's always off his line, the stupid Pole, he should go and die in Poland
I doubt Reina would have done anything about those goals.
At least he stays on his line, watch the replays, Dudek is a good half a metre or so off his line.
Viperized
06-01-2007, 18:07
2-0 TO ARSENAL!!
ROSICKY YOU LEGEND.
Those were two good strikes.
Your forgetting Dudek the fucking fanny
rosicky rosicky oh rosicky it great!
Go back to your Championship football
dudek is not the problem! the problem is............................ .............................. ..................rafa and liverpool! plus they were 2 grat goals!
Viperized
06-01-2007, 18:10
At least he stays on his line, watch the replays, Dudek is a good half a metre or so off his line.
If Dudek was on his line for the second goal he still wouldn't have saved it. He shot it in the bottom corner.
dudek is not the problem! the problem is............................ .............................. ..................rafa and liverpool! plus they were 2 grat goals!
Yes I'm sure Rafa's the problem :rolleyes:
@Vip, most likely, just pissed cause that fanny is the goalie. It could easily be 1-1 or 2-2 really.
nah its just that liverpool are nowhere near the standards of arsenal!
Today yes.
If both teams are in their best form it would be much closer.
What makes me laugh is that we are losing to Arsenal and they don't even have Cesc in the side.
vanNistelrooy
06-01-2007, 18:17
Atleast Brum can say they're still in the FA Cup, you may not be able to!
I might as well post this here, I did in the LiverPOO thread. It made me chuckle anyway.
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dudek is good chapions league winning goalkeeper dont blame him blame the defence for letting hm shoot!
Atleast Brum can say they're still in the FA Cup, you may not be able to!
I might as well post this here, I did in the LiverPOO thread. It made me chuckle anyway.
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Yes but we can say we are a league better then Brum
And we beat them 7-0 aswell.
Zoolander
06-01-2007, 18:19
Gilberto is playing well!
vanNistelrooy
06-01-2007, 18:20
And we beat them 7-0 aswell.
They're on track for a trophy ;)
Gilberto has been playing shit. As for Henry, is he playing?!?
So are we, the Carling Cup trophy :unsure:
Yes but we can say we are a league better then Brum
And we beat them 7-0 aswell.
long time ago mate and were still in the fa cup i bet we could have done a better job then liverpool if we played arsnal we probaily would have lost but we will make arsenal work for there goal!
So are we, the Carling Cup trophy :unsure:
fluke scrappy goal though!
Zoolander
06-01-2007, 18:22
Gilberto has Gerrard & Alonso in his back pocket.
Yes, it would be entertaining seeing Brum - Arsenal.
For all the goals Arsenal would score against you.
Zoolander
06-01-2007, 18:25
Half of Brums team wouldn't be able to play as they're loaning a few Arsenal players.
face it ur walking alone today!
face it ur walking alone today!
Nah.
I'm already at home.
rosicky playing well tonight..
Half of Brums team wouldn't be able to play as they're loaning a few Arsenal players.
true but we always got replacements and i hate newcastle took out bedtners ankle and kellys hamstring
true but we always got replacements and i hate newcastle took out bedtners ankle and kellys hamstring
Poor Brum, can't handle Premiership toughness :crymore:
Nah.
I'm already at home.
that has prabily been the worst come back i have ever seen
Flamini just took Garcia's head off.
Good WWE move.
that has prabily been the worst come back i have ever seen
It's not a comeback, it's the truth
Zoolander
06-01-2007, 18:29
Hows that French defensive midfielder doing for you lot?
Poor Brum, can't handle Premiership toughness :crymore:
errrm.... could of whoooped liverpoool drew to newcastle with 10 men on the verge of comeing back the the prem and kicking the merseyside reds ass!
errrm.... could of whoooped liverpoool drew to newcastle with 10 men on the verge of comeing back the the prem and kicking the merseyside reds ass!
Ok come back to the Premiership, just remember. 7-0
7-0 time ago mate and remeber this rafa is going to walk alone with the rubbish spanish player except of xabi alonzo who is good and taking them to the conference and becoming a no league team!
7-0 time ago mate and remeber this rafa is going to walk alone with the rubbish spanish player except of xabi alonzo who is good and taking them to the conference and becoming a no league team!
Man, what a comeback, let me cry in the corner.
I'm sure Liverpool will go down to the conference. :rolleyes:
Zoolander
06-01-2007, 18:44
Birmingham aren't even the best team in Birmingham ;)
Birmingham aren't even the best team in Birmingham ;)
OOOO SNAP
:laugh:
Who is? I'm abit patchy with my geography :ninja:
Zoolander
06-01-2007, 18:46
Aston Vanilla
Man, what a comeback, let me cry in the corner.
I'm sure Liverpool will go down to the conference. :rolleyes:
read what i said dimmwit rafa and shit spansh players!
and the mesaiah i see your point but i bet bham will beat av any day
COME ON 2-1, come on boys.
vanNistelrooy
06-01-2007, 19:02
COME ON 3-1, come on boys.
COME ON 3-1, come on boys.
You won't be saying that tomorrow against Villa :ninja:
Good game Arsenal, we were shit and deserved to lose.
i know he won't he will be saying come on 5-0 come on boys
vanNistelrooy
06-01-2007, 19:06
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Zoolander
06-01-2007, 19:18
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vN, excuse my slowness, but what does the trains mean?
Zoolander
06-01-2007, 19:21
In rail transport, a train consists of rail vehicles that move along guides to transport freight or passengers from one place to another. The guideway (permanent way) usually consists of conventional rail tracks, but might also be monorail or maglev. Propulsion for the train is provided by a separate locomotive, or from individual motors in self-propelled multiple units. Most trains are powered by diesel engines or by electricity supplied by trackside systems. Historically the steam engine was the dominant form of locomotive power through the mid-20th century, but other sources of power (such as horses, rope (or wire), gravity, pneumatics, or gas turbines) are possible.
Damn you Messiah!
:laugh:
Zoolander
06-01-2007, 19:27
I don't have a clue what the train thing is either!
Tigermen
06-01-2007, 19:32
Er, I'm thinking Tomas (Thomas) the Tank Engine. As in Tomas Rosicky...right?
Good game, top game actually :D
Especially when my mums dickhead boyfriend who's a 'Pool fan is watching it!
Bahaha...
Although liverpool did well in terms of possesion they hardly looked dangerous, unlike us who seemed to utilize our possesion effectively.
Great goals by Rosicky (Those who criticised Dudek for coming off his line are slightly out of order, he was expecting the cross as all Premiership keepers would. I think it was a sublime finish), same to Henry also good working before it.
I was getting worried once they pulled one back mind, it would've been so fucking frustrating to see there frustratingly boring long ball shite overcome real football. Credit to our defense though, and Almunia, who dealt with 99% of everything soundly.
Senderos was outstanding.
Maybe if Bellamy was brought on they could've altered their one dimensional play.
But yeah, well done boys! Let's hope the draw is kind to us on monday!
pistolpete
06-01-2007, 19:44
We battled them off the park today, and had the quality when we realized that we should keep the ball on the floor.
Even Mark Lawrenson got it right when he said we were perfect tactically.
Dragonfly
06-01-2007, 19:46
Senderos was winning most headers.....MOST (obviously).
wrigh2uk
06-01-2007, 19:57
Think senderos had a great game, and tbh i can't wait till laurens back at right back... I think Eboue is sneedy, a cheat and pretty dirty footballer to be honest.
and the mesaiah i see your point but i bet bham will beat av any day
What, like last season? :rolleyes:
I'm all for being passionate as regard to supporting 'your' club but being blinded by your own arrogance seems to be criteria for a blue nose.
Stella Artois
06-01-2007, 19:58
Good victory and well deserved too. Liverpool - other than the long ball into the box - had absolutely nothing and I fail to remember a single occasion from which they cut us open.
Rafa fucked up big time tactically - why the hell Bellamy wasn't brought on I'll never know.
Anyway, we move onto the next round where we'll probably get another away tie. Yay?
Super Tom Rosicky!
Dragonfly
06-01-2007, 19:59
Think senderos had a great game, and tbh i can't wait till laurens back at right back... I think Eboue is sneedy, a cheat and pretty dirty footballer to be honest.
I'm not sure about that. I'm assuming you're referring to his 'fake' injury. I think he was genuinely injured, because after he hacked down whoever it was he fouled, he was walking backwards, and it looked like he took an awkward step.
calculus
06-01-2007, 20:15
Liverpool 1 - 3 Arsenal:cool: Bet not too many expected that!
wrigh2uk
06-01-2007, 20:20
I'm not sure about that. I'm assuming you're referring to his 'fake' injury. I think he was genuinely injured, because after he hacked down whoever it was he fouled, he was walking backwards, and it looked like he took an awkward step.
Eboues constantly doing it
Stella Artois
06-01-2007, 20:23
Well he went off in the end so you'd assume he was injured...
calculus
06-01-2007, 20:23
Eboues constantly doing it
He did get sub though!
Er, I'm thinking Tomas (Thomas) the Tank Engine. As in Tomas Rosicky...right?
correct! it just pisses off -rafa- abit
vanNistelrooy
06-01-2007, 21:31
Well he went off in the end so you'd assume he was injured...
He wasn't that injured. Wenger used his brain and decided to get him off as he was just stiring up the home fans, which would probably end up in a dreadful challenge or two.
Smart move by Wenger.
Viperized
06-01-2007, 22:49
Awesome result, and I'd thought we would severely struggle with Flamini and Gilberto in midfield (two defensive midfielders = no creativity)
I think Henry's injury has finally vanished - he sped like a rocket at various occasions.
mufcsean
06-01-2007, 22:53
2 cracking goals by Rosicky and Henrys goal want half bad either, i was amazed that bellamy didnt come on for Liverpool though, he spent the whole fo the second half warming up :huh:
Dragonfly
06-01-2007, 23:48
I missed the first half, first time round, but I just saw Rosicky's goals. The first was top class, but the second wasn't as great as people are making it out to be. Not only did no one challange him, but Gerrard cowered away instead of sticking out a leg to block the shot.
correct! it just pisses off -rafa- abit
O yes, it pisses me off sooooo much. :rolleyes:
Ronaldo_is_fat
07-01-2007, 02:34
My favorite was Henry's goal, that was some speed although Rosicky's second one was close.
Thanks again to Soccerblog for the goals....
http://www.soccerblog.com/
Rosicky's second was my choice...although his first was pretty good too!
calculus
07-01-2007, 10:15
What do you reckon the team is going to be on Tuesday?
Alumnia
Hoyte Senderos Djourou Traore
Walcott Baptista Denilson Song Flamini
Aliadiere
Ronaldo_is_fat
07-01-2007, 10:17
What do you reckon the team is going to be on Tuesday?
Alumnia
Hoyte Senderos Djourou Traore
Walcott Baptista Denilson Song Flamini
Aliadiere
Yes it will definitely be a tight game with Alidaiere, Flamin and Song on :/ . Is Merida fit to start?
calculus
07-01-2007, 10:20
Yes it will definitely be a tight game with Alidaiere, Flamin and Song on :/ . Is Merida fit to start?
Just a guess I have no insight into what the acutal team will be its just speculation and I have no idea if Merida is fit to start!
wrigh2uk
07-01-2007, 10:42
Well he went off in the end so you'd assume he was injured...
It would have been risky keeping him on, wenger knew that.
vanNistelrooy
07-01-2007, 10:44
Alumnia
Hoyte Senderos Djourou Traore
Walcott Baptista Denilson Song Flamini
Aliadiere
Why the hell would Wenger play Djimi Traore? Oh I see, it's only Liverpool. Fair enough point.
Actually, Van Persie would ONLY have been offside had he touched the ball, he didn't meaning that irrespective of the fact he was offside, he was fouled and therefore the appropiate punishment was handed out.
It's a shit rule, but don't blame me. ;)
Just beat Liverpool 4-1 on PES5 lads, so don't worry, we're going to run out easy winners. ;)
Wow... you were right (on both accounts actually ;) )
The old rule used to be when it looked like a player was going to benefit from his offside position, it would be ruled offside. But now the new rule is that the guy has to TOUCH the ball, before the offside can be given. Yeah, that IS a shite rule I guess, although they would most probably have had their reasons...
Good to see the referee getting it right in this case then, and arsenal benefitting from it...
Anyway, about yesterday's match: I really enjoyed it. It wasnt the best football from either side, but it had a good pace to it, went up and down, had some nice fouls so you could tell both teams did want to win it, and in the end Arsenal's great defence and some individual class won it for them. Thomas Roskicky choose the perfect match to show what he's capable of producing, cause he's been quite 'tame' for Arsenal up till yesterday. Nice to see Henry coming back, and scoring an important and great goal.
Liverpool at times looked more threatening and closing arsenal down, but they couldnt benefit from it. Crouch was pretty mediocre, while Kuytt ran all over the place workig his ass off and putting in the crosses etc. Like many, I found it very weird that Bellamy didnt come on, as I think the match would have had a different ending...
I also thought Wenger made a tactical blunder when he took of van Persie. I felt he should have taken off Henry (also to rest him since he's only just returned) and should have replaced Henry with Walcott, so VP could have played behind Walcott to benefit fully of the counter... But Wenger replaced Van Persie with Baptista, who in all honesty hasnt convinced me yet that he has the quality for this side, and yesterday's performance didnt change that.
When Liverpool scored the 2-1, I thought they would go on to also score the 2-2... but luckily Henry showed his class shortly after, and made it 3-1...
So it ended up well for Arsenal and Arsene...
Eboue did annoy me quite a bit though. The dirty fouls and trying to walk back onto the pitch (some referees could have given him a 2nd yellow for that, luckily yesterday's ref was great, and didnt). I dont know if he was really injured or not, but it was his own fault either way. Just stupid, and it's a shame cause he's a marvelous player when he just focusses on playing football.
Ah well, very entertaining match, and I'm looking forward to this afternoon's match between Man Utd and Aston Villa...
vanNistelrooy
07-01-2007, 10:54
If van Persie had been in an onside position I don't believe the defender would have needed to pull him down. I'd say he was "interfering with play", wouldn't you? Shouldn't have been a red, should have been recinded. But this is the FA, who don't have a fucking clue what they're doing.
Ronaldo_is_fat
07-01-2007, 10:54
The main improvement we had in this game was that we are more clinical with our chances. Even though that we lost in posession in a great precentage we still managed to finish off our precious chances.
If van Persie had been in an onside position I don't believe the defender would have needed to pull him down. I'd say he was "interfering with play", wouldn't you? Shouldn't have been a red, should have been recinded. But this is the FA, who don't have a fucking clue what they're doing.
Ofcourse he was 'interfering with play' as soon as he ran towards the ball, but the ref/linesman cant flag/whistle untill he touches it... as that's the new rules apparently :)
andy21791
07-01-2007, 11:45
Why the hell would Wenger play Djimi Traore? Oh I see, it's only Liverpool. Fair enough point.
Its not djimi traoure, the ex-liverpool player as he plays for charlton, i think! I beleive the Traore mentioned is the 16yr old french man that is immmensly fast, sorry can't remember his first name, but he is good!
Great result by the way lads! Super, Super Tom, Super, Super Tomas Rosiky
pistolpete
07-01-2007, 12:36
His 1st name is Armand, he looks like a good prospect.
Yi-Long, surely it cant have been a bad decision by Wenger to leave Henry on, as he scored the fional goal out of nothing, and killed the game off.
Maybe he could have taken him off to rest him but theres no way RVP would have scored a goal like that.
Rossy Boy
07-01-2007, 12:56
Arsenal's stadium sponsors, Emirates, want the club to have a third-choice white kit similar to that of rivals Tottenham.
:shocking:
rondroid
07-01-2007, 12:59
Arsenal's stadium sponsors, Emirates, want the club to have a third-choice white kit similar to that of rivals Tottenham.
:shocking:
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
those stupid cunts:shocking:
Over my fucking dead body they'll make a white fucking kit.
It should be as it always has been.
1nd: Red and White
2nd: Yellow
3rd: Blue
and every other possible colour ahead of white.
CaptainCabinet
07-01-2007, 14:36
Too right man, I was so pissed when Pompey had that red kit last season, disgusting. I mean it wasn't red and white but you just don't that thing around these parts.
Stella Artois
07-01-2007, 15:36
If van Persie had been in an onside position I don't believe the defender would have needed to pull him down. I'd say he was "interfering with play", wouldn't you? Shouldn't have been a red, should have been recinded. But this is the FA, who don't have a fucking clue what they're doing.
Why are you a football fan when you don't even know the rules?
Stella Artois
07-01-2007, 15:47
Wow... you were right (on both accounts actually ;) )
I'm always right. :cool:
Anyway, about yesterday's match: I really enjoyed it. It wasnt the best football from either side, but it had a good pace to it, went up and down, had some nice fouls so you could tell both teams did want to win it, and in the end Arsenal's great defence and some individual class won it for them. Thomas Roskicky choose the perfect match to show what he's capable of producing, cause he's been quite 'tame' for Arsenal up till yesterday. Nice to see Henry coming back, and scoring an important and great goal.
It's spelt Tomas. :P
He hasn't been half as bad as people make out, but he's been suffering with injuries so it's been difficult for him.
Liverpool at times looked more threatening and closing arsenal down, but they couldnt benefit from it. Crouch was pretty mediocre, while Kuytt ran all over the place workig his ass off and putting in the crosses etc. Like many, I found it very weird that Bellamy didnt come on, as I think the match would have had a different ending...
Liverpool had more possession and territory, that goes without question, however they posed absolutely no threat whatsoever. As one reporter wrote, they're just a bunch of up-market long ball merchants.
I also thought Wenger made a tactical blunder when he took of van Persie. I felt he should have taken off Henry (also to rest him since he's only just returned) and should have replaced Henry with Walcott, so VP could have played behind Walcott to benefit fully of the counter... But Wenger replaced Van Persie with Baptista, who in all honesty hasnt convinced me yet that he has the quality for this side, and yesterday's performance didnt change that.
When Liverpool scored the 2-1, I thought they would go on to also score the 2-2... but luckily Henry showed his class shortly after, and made it 3-1...
So it ended up well for Arsenal and Arsene...
How was it a tactical blunder when he scored the winner? :laugh:
Viperized
07-01-2007, 15:54
Over my fucking dead body they'll make a white fucking kit.
It should be as it always has been.
1nd: Red and White
2nd: Yellow
3rd: Blue
and every other possible colour ahead of white.
Next season we are changing our away kit.
I hope it'll be blue because I loved the 95, 2000 and 2005 blue away kits.
Stella Artois
07-01-2007, 15:59
We never won a thing with a blue away kit I believe. Although I've the memory of a goldfish so I may be wrong.
Next season we are changing our away kit.
I hope it'll be blue because I loved the 95, 2000 and 2005 blue away kits.
What about the 2002-03 away one, with blue to black shades, I don't know about you people but it looked sleek to me.
vanNistelrooy
07-01-2007, 16:21
Why are you a football fan when you don't even know the rules?
OK, so if van Persie actually scored from the rebound, he would have been offside? Right? He interfered the moment he went for the rebound in my opinion.
Stella Artois
07-01-2007, 16:27
Your opinion means shit.
The interference factor doesn't matter - again, read the rules.
FiGuEiRiNhA
07-01-2007, 18:15
Does anyone know where I find the goals of the game against Liverpool??
martin_cranie
07-01-2007, 18:23
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UxkSOn5_rk
Viperized
07-01-2007, 18:24
This website:
http://arsenalclips.blogspot.com/
FiGuEiRiNhA
07-01-2007, 18:34
thanks
I know we're generally unlucky in the blue kit. But anything other than white please. They're derby rivals for fuck sake.
Stella Artois
07-01-2007, 18:40
People would refuse to buy it.
Rossy Boy
07-01-2007, 19:22
I liked the old Gold kit
People would refuse to buy it.
Yeah don't know why I didn't think of that.
It'd be bad though seeing the players wear it. :shocking:
On another matter, seems our loanees are doing alright doesn't it?
Stella Artois
07-01-2007, 19:42
Well of the players currently on loan, I'd say that only Bendtner and Muamba are likely to make it.
Larsson is on his way to Birmingham, Stokes to Charlton, Lupoli seems intent on moving back to Italy. and I can't see Connolly or O’Cearuill making it - so its not all good news!
Well of the players currently on loan, I'd say that only Bendtner and Muamba are likely to make it.
Larsson is on his way to Birmingham, Stokes to Charlton, Lupoli seems intent on moving back to Italy. and I can't see Connolly or O’Cearuill making it - so its not all good news!
Meh, I get your point but still, it's encouraging to see what we're producing.
do you think Bendtner should be given a few 1st team chances next season? As regularly as let's say...Walcott is now?
Stella Artois
07-01-2007, 20:08
I don't see why not, he's doing pretty well at Birmingham and as we tend to pick up 62,000 injuries a season, he'll get his chances.
I'm always right. :cool:
12 minutes later
We never won a thing with a blue away kit I believe. Although I've the memory of a goldfish so I may be wrong.
Kind of tied yourself up there, didn't ya :tongue:
Stella Artois
07-01-2007, 20:32
I was being sarcastic of course...
P.S. You're a bastard. ;/
Viperized
07-01-2007, 23:13
We've won the F.A. Cup with the blue kit. Twice to be precise, in 2003 and 2005. During 2000 we were close to winning a trophy or two, but not close enough.
Highway Penguin
08-01-2007, 00:32
What do you reckon the team is going to be on Tuesday?
Alumnia
Hoyte Senderos Djourou Traore
Walcott Baptista Denilson Song Flamini
Aliadiere
Isn't Denilson in South America for the U20 cup or something? :mellow:
I've read that this is the probable lineup....
Almunia
Hoyte-Djourou-Gallas-Traore
Walcott-Song-Baptista-Merida
Aliadiere-Van Persie
Or something like that...:happy:
By the way, I heard something about Ljungberg being up for sale. Thoughts?
Ronaldo_is_fat
08-01-2007, 01:02
By the way, I heard something about Ljungberg being up for sale. Thoughts?
The sooner we sell him the better as he contributes nothing to the team no matter attack or defense.
martin_cranie
08-01-2007, 01:05
Isn't Denilson in South America for the U20 cup or something? :mellow:
I've read that this is the probable lineup....
Almunia
Hoyte-Djourou-Gallas-Traore
Walcott-Song-Baptista-Merida
Aliadiere-Van Persie
Or something like that...:happy:
By the way, I heard something about Ljungberg being up for sale. Thoughts?
I really hope Denilson is available, as Song isn't good enough to hold our midfield together.
If Ljungberg was to leave, it would be the loss of a club legend. His form has been average at best for a while, but he still has something to give. Experience and physicality are things we need more of, not less. As long as he is willing to accept a lesser role and fight for inclusion, I'm happy to see him stay.
Ronaldo_is_fat
08-01-2007, 01:09
He is almost at his 30s and as a winger he has no pace and no vision for a supporting striker. Yes he is no doubt a club legend, but it is time for him to move on.
Freddie's pretty much lost his pace and bottle, and I wouldn't be crushed to see him leave. But I'd be massively disappointed if the club has handled as the papers have said (telling him to find himself a new club immediately).
martin_cranie
08-01-2007, 04:11
I know we're all hoping for Ribery as his eventual replacement, but the likelihood of that happening, in January at least, is very low. Considering the lack of width and experience we have, Freddie leaving in January would be too bigger loss. Even if Wenger was to bring in someone like N'Zogbia, we'd still be at a loss in terms of physicality and experience. I just don't think he's worth getting rid of yet.
Anyway, if it is true, then as Joey says, I hope the manner of proceedings are far better than reported. Ljungberg truly loves Arsenal and has served us brilliantly in the past; it would be an outrage to treat such a player in that manner.
Highway Penguin
08-01-2007, 05:00
Mhm, I was a bit shocked at what the reports were saying, but I would hope Wenger has more class than what papers are making it out to sound like.
I would also assume his experience is needed as you've got a tremendously young squad in general and he's not very old, 29?, so it doesn't really hurt to keep him around, does it? :mellow:
calculus
08-01-2007, 12:44
Whats wrong with Ljungberg being told he can leave? You dont keep a player based on the fact that he loves the 'Club'! He has been underperforming and though I would be sad to see him go it wouldnt have the impact of say an A. Cole, T. Henry, Gilberto or C. Fabregas leaving!
I have read up on the articles and the NEWS OF THE WORLD have surely exagerated on the leave aspect by stating the 'find a club now/immediately' - sensationalism! When Ljungberg leaves the club I hope he has the respect of the Arsenal fans to be treated as an Arsenal Giant and is appreciated for what he has done for the team/Club!
Transfer rumours: Sidwell back to arsenal, SWP to arsenal, Adebayor to Man Utd! What do we think?
Ronaldo_is_fat
08-01-2007, 12:49
Why will Manutd want Adebayor, bullocks from skysports again? They have enough strikers and out of all the choices why choose a player from a rival club.
Bammers05
08-01-2007, 15:12
Whats wrong with Ljungberg being told he can leave? You dont keep a player based on the fact that he loves the 'Club'! He has been underperforming and though I would be sad to see him go it wouldnt have the impact of say an A. Cole, T. Henry, Gilberto or C. Fabregas leaving!
Errrrrrrrrrrr................. .................
I've never been a big Ljungberg fan, but the man is undeniably been very important to Arsenal at time, showed lots of commitment, etc etc.
I dont mind seeing him go, and it's probably best for him as well, as he's hardly ever playing.
calculus
08-01-2007, 15:29
Errrrrrrrrrrr................. .................
Yeah I said it A. Cole more on the Club side rather than playing side as I think Clichy has covered that role with ease! Cole was our answer to players like Gerrard, J. Terry, G. Neville et al... the local boy/boyhood supporter turn good! Sorry not into the whole over zealous hating thing!
I'm always right. :cool:
True. You're the Jose Mourinho of Pesgaming.com ;)
It's spelt Tomas. :P
He hasn't been half as bad as people make out, but he's been suffering with injuries so it's been difficult for him.
I didnt mean to say he was bad or anything, but we've all seen what he's capable of doing, both in the CL and in matches for his country... so it was a shame that he wasnt bringing that to Arsenal yet. I'm very glad he showed his skill this weekend against Arsenal, as I quite like him as a player. :)
Liverpool had more possession and territory, that goes without question, however they posed absolutely no threat whatsoever. As one reporter wrote, they're just a bunch of up-market long ball merchants.
Agreed. They didnt create any real chances, which is why I said I felt Crouch wasnt doing very well, and that is was very strange Bellamy wasnt brought on, as he brings more speed and movement. Kuytt was doing all the work.
How was it a tactical blunder when he scored the winner? :laugh:
Well... like I said, at the time I felt it was a tactical blunder. Hell, if I'd watch the game again I would again feel it's a tactical 'blunder'. But it worked out very well, with Henry scoring the 3rd goal. But logically thinking, you'd take of Henry (who played OK-ish untill his goal, but not brilliant), and replace him with Walcott. I dont understand why you would take off van Persie and bring on Baptista, although Van Persie didnt have a great game as well...
Ah well, it all ended well. The decision turned out well (although more because of individual skill instead of tactics, cause Baptista wasnt bringing anything to the game, as usual) and it was nice seeing Henry scoring an important goal again :)
Yeah I said it A. Cole more on the Club side rather than playing side as I think Clichy has covered that role with ease! Cole was our answer to players like Gerrard, J. Terry, G. Neville et al... the local boy/boyhood supporter turn good! Sorry not into the whole over zealous hating thing!
I said at the time when the whole Chelsea thing started coming out, they should just sell the guy. He's a good left-back no doubt, but I felt Arsenal could have an equally good left-back if they'd get Y.P Lee from PSV, and thus make a big profit from selling Cole...
And like you said, Clichy has been very very good. I felt it was a shame that Ashley Cole could play the CL final against Barca, after having been injured for so long... I dont think he deserved to play that match.
calculus
08-01-2007, 16:39
And like you said, Clichy has been very very good. I felt it was a shame that Ashley Cole could play the CL final against Barca, after having been injured for so long... I dont think he deserved to play that match.
Funny you should mention that I was thinking that as well but then this is AW we talking about and he will always pick the team he feels is most capable of winning the match with him nothing is based solely on sentiment! So regardless of the off the field saga he was not going to risk losing the game by being stubborn about the situation!
Viperized
08-01-2007, 17:42
I wouldn't lose any sleep if Ljungberg left the club. It's true that he shows commitment and works his arse off in every match, but he has lost it offensively to be honest. He has lost his pace and I can't remember the last time he scored a goal. He has been average or below average in every game this season. He has little to contribute and in almost every match he's played in I've noticed he has been unable to beat his marker. Instead, he sits on the floor, hoping the ref would give him a free kick. He is also rather injury prone. Walcott, Hleb and Rosicky are better players than him.
Thanks for the memories Freddie, and the red hair, but I feel its time for you to move on.
calculus
08-01-2007, 17:45
Thanks for the memories Freddie, and the red hair, but I feel its time for you to move on.
Viperized = A. Wenger
:laugh:
CaptainCabinet
08-01-2007, 17:46
Ljungberg is a wanker, especially if he comes to Pompey, one signing I would not welcome with open arms at all.
Viperized
08-01-2007, 17:54
Ljungberg is a wanker, especially if he comes to Pompey, one signing I would not welcome with open arms at all.
Why would you say he is a wanker?
I thought Pompey fans only hated Pires../
edit: Apparently Spurs want Freddie! Hahahaha, cunts.
would pompe take.........urm.............. .............................. .sam oji
calculus
08-01-2007, 18:00
would pompe take.........urm.............. .............................. .sam oji
I have :no: idea what that post is about!
Viperized
08-01-2007, 18:01
Carling Cup game tomorrow.
I really hope Fabregas starts this one, or I think we will struggle. I'm expecting Benitez to field a full-strength side in comparison to our young starting eleven.
calculus
08-01-2007, 18:06
Carling Cup game tomorrow.
I really hope Fabregas starts this one, or I think we will struggle. I'm expecting Benitez to field a full-strength side in comparison to our young starting eleven.
I think we will do better than most will expect as long as benitez doesnt play Crouch and AW doesnt play Song, what does he see in him can someone tell me please!:rolleyes:
I think we will do better than most will expect as long as benitez doesnt play Crouch and AW doesnt play Song, what does he see in him can someone tell me please!:rolleyes:
a good player!:)
calculus
08-01-2007, 18:17
a good player!:)
:laugh:
His contacts need to be put in solution!:cool:
Will Wenger be naming the same sort of squad for tommorrow's game that he picked for the original game that was postponed?
Bammers05
08-01-2007, 18:38
Apparently Abou Diaby going to be on the bench tomorrow night
CaptainCabinet
08-01-2007, 18:47
Why would you say he is a wanker?
I thought Pompey fans only hated Pires../
edit: Apparently Spurs want Freddie! Hahahaha, cunts.
Well yeah Pires is a cunt, but I just don't like Ljungberg, and he used to be good when he had a yard on everyone else, but through injury and age he's all but lost that yard, and he's not that good any more.
Funny you should mention that I was thinking that as well but then this is AW we talking about and he will always pick the team he feels is most capable of winning the match with him nothing is based solely on sentiment! So regardless of the off the field saga he was not going to risk losing the game by being stubborn about the situation!
Well.. not just sentiments-wise, that he shouldnt have been played, but also the fact that he was just recovering from a long injury, hadnt played in a while, and his replacements had done a very good job...
Ah well... the idiot is luckily gone now, so good riddance :)
Bammers05
08-01-2007, 19:40
Abou Diaby is back in the Arsenal squad for Tuesday's Carling Cup tie at Liverpool.
The French midfielder has not played since suffering a fractured and dislocated ankle at Sunderland last May but he completed his first full training session on Thursday and is in contention for a welcome return at Anfield.
Diaby's recovery is the latest in a long line of promising injury news. As Arsène Wenger explained on Monday afternoon, Freddie Ljungberg (hamstring) is currently the only player without a chance of featuring in Saturday's Premiership game at Ewood Park.
"We have Diaby in the squad for the first time and Emmanuel Adebayor is very strongly coming back. Blackburn is possible for him," said Wenger.
"Lauren is not in the squad for Liverpool, he has a small toe injury. William Gallas will not play either. But basically the only real injury is Ljungberg, he needs one more week after Blackburn.
"That is why I said for a long time that I won't buy anyone [in the transfer window]. I knew I had enough players when they came back from injury."
Source: http://www.arsenal.com/index.asp
Good to see him back
Viperized
08-01-2007, 20:13
Diaby against Bolton would be nice. He'll need to regain his match fitness though, and since he has returned from injury, I'm not expecting him to start tomorrow. Unless he has been training hard over the past few weeks of course..
I really hope Fabregas starts.
Stella Artois
09-01-2007, 09:48
According to the squad list posted on the Beeb's website, we're pretty much at full strength. If that's the case I'll be disappointed.
On a brighter note, welcome back Abou!
Stella Artois
09-01-2007, 09:50
I said at the time when the whole Chelsea thing started coming out, they should just sell the guy. He's a good left-back no doubt, but I felt Arsenal could have an equally good left-back if they'd get Y.P Lee from PSV, and thus make a big profit from selling Cole...
And like you said, Clichy has been very very good. I felt it was a shame that Ashley Cole could play the CL final against Barca, after having been injured for so long... I dont think he deserved to play that match.
Lee can't even get in the Sp*rs side.
Ronaldo_is_fat
09-01-2007, 10:59
Lee is a sissy and can't defend for shit. All he does is run headless around the wing with his overrated step overs. Clichy is doing fine at the moment and already has Flamini as replacement.
Any chance of producing the impossible and beat Liverpool at home again but this time with our second team? :rolleyes:
pistolpete
09-01-2007, 11:43
Good to welcome Diaby back, competiotion for places is always good.
I wish Wenger had stuck with Flamini os Clichy for the CL final - Cole had only 1 game under his belt, and it was pretty obvious that he would be leaving us that summer.
I hope Wenger keeps Fredy, his experience is crucial and he id a big game player, i thought he had an excellent CL final.
Wenger has shown how important he is to the squad and even if he has lost a yard of pace, he still works very hard and wins the ball back quite a few times when chasing back to intercept.
Also i think he is 3rd choice captain - he led the team against Zagreb (home when Henry & Gilberto were out) - and scored.
CaptainCabinet
09-01-2007, 11:44
I wish Wenger had stuck with Flamini os Clichy for the CL final - Cole had only 1 game under his belt, and it was pretty obvious that he would be leaving us that summer.
Maybe Wenger thought that winning it would leave a chance of Cole staying at the Club? Ergo he had to play his strongest side.
pistolpete
09-01-2007, 11:49
a good point, i think he knew Cole would clear off though - AW knows his players, and after hearing about his book i think he nevr intended to stay as long as he did after the illegal meeting.
Dutch media is reporting that Arsenal is interested in taking over Babel from Ajax. Not this winter, but after this season. They feel he'd make a good replacement for Ljungberg.
Stella Artois
09-01-2007, 13:25
Maybe Wenger thought that winning it would leave a chance of Cole staying at the Club? Ergo he had to play his strongest side.
Not a single supporter I know wanted him had he decided he wanted to stay.
calculus
09-01-2007, 14:25
Looks like we are very strong for this game I think AW see it as an opportunity to build some confidence and match fitness! Though I think Henry will be on the bench hopefully! He needs to be rested for Blackburn away!
We have the ever reliable Dudek in goal....again :(
I'm taping the match and watching it in the morning as it's on 4:30am here.
Ronaldo_is_fat
09-01-2007, 14:39
Shit, we got Bolton
Viperized
09-01-2007, 17:06
Squad to face Carling Cup:
2. Abou Diaby
4. Francesc Fabregas
5. Kolo Toure
9. Julio Baptista
15. Denilson
17. Alex Song
20. Johan Djourou
21. Mart Poom
24. Manuel Almunia
30. Jeremie Aliadiere
31. Justin Hoyte
32. Theo Walcott
33. Matthew Connolly
40. Henry Lansbury
43. Mark Randall
45. Armand Traore
I would've liked Van Persie in the squad to be honest.
It's a shame that my Sky isn't working. It isn't receiving any of the channels including the normal five channels. But, my other TV aerial is fucked and doesn't display anything on my TV!
At least the game will be streamed online.
wrigh2uk
09-01-2007, 19:26
I hope Wenger keeps Fredy, his experience is crucial and he id a big game player, i thought he had an excellent CL final.
Nah he ain't been the same since that injury a way back.. I said sell him awhile ago...
Rossy Boy
09-01-2007, 20:08
Oh No Not Song!!!
Viperized
09-01-2007, 20:16
ALIADIERE!!!
1-0!!
I'm fucking pissed off though, because I can't watch the damn game. My Sky satellite dish is fucked up.
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