Arsenal

[Dragonfly]

If Ljunberg goes, then a winger will clearly be the priority. It's pretty high up as it is.

EDIT: @ Martin - Although I think the Zog is a great talent, he seems to have a bad attitude to not playing, like he did at Newcastle.

[Jonny2J]

And open the door for the likes of Modric, N'Zogbia and/or Pedersen, which would be excellent. I like Freddie a helluva lot, but he's no longer capable of giving us what we need, ergo he should bow out now before getting even worse and risking his legacy within the club's history.It's more than likely now that Zoggy is staying due to Roeder leaving. Although we wouldn't get much for him due to his appauling performances last season.

[Stella Artois]

Well of course you're going to get fans into every game when you are in the top 4 decade upon decade, it's not very hard is it.

I'd assume that you're exaggerating?

You know full well I respect the Newcastle fans, but at the same time I don't appreciate you bashing ours. We have plenty of real fans, but with the club being situated where it is, and given the recent success we've had, it's hardly surprising we've developed the poor atmosphere that we currently have.

[Viperized]

I've never seen Modric play. Is he any good? What are his strengths and quicknesses? Does he have the pace to play on the wings? Is he a pass first, shoot layer type of player? We've had enough of those and I don't want another one :huh:

[martin_cranie]

It's more than likely now that Zoggy is staying due to Roeder leaving. Although we wouldn't get much for him due to his appauling performances last season.

Either way, I hope that he gets back on the pitch and shows what he can do. Anyone with any sense wouldn't judge The Zog on one collectively lame season when he showed so much talent the season before. I personally would be very happy if Wenger went for him.

[Dragonfly]

I'd say Modric is similar style player to Rosicky. I haven't seen him in a while, but I remember him impressing me in either the UEFA Cup or Champions League, and also on International duty.

[Stella Artois]

Either way, I hope that he gets back on the pitch and shows what he can do. Anyone with any sense wouldn't judge The Zog on one collectively lame season when he showed so much talent the season before. I personally would be very happy if Wenger went for him.

I wouldn't. He's at the right sort of club for his ability.

[Dragonfly]

Either way, I hope that he gets back on the pitch and shows what he can do. Anyone with any sense wouldn't judge The Zog on one collectively lame season when he showed so much talent the season before. I personally would be very happy if Wenger went for him.
I think someone is trying to big-up one of his FL players. :rolleyes:

[Jonny2J]

I'd assume that you're exaggerating?

You know full well I respect the Newcastle fans, but at the same time I don't appreciate you bashing ours. We have plenty of real fans, but with the club being situated where it is, and given the recent success we've had, it's hardly surprising we've developed the poor atmosphere that we currently have.Bash ours all you want mate, the atmosphere at St. James' Park is a travesty today, it's absolutely shocking to what it was. I respect the Toon Ultra's for trying to generate an atmosphere, they just go about it in all the wrong way.

Just I think it's completely wrong that a team, especially in the top 4 of the league needs to use speakers to generate an atmosphere. Then again especially with the move I can see how it can attract a more corporate element of fans.

I guarantee the same will happen with Pompey if they move stadium, everyone goes on about the atmosphere at Fratton Park but that's due to it being enclosed and you get a core element in there.

[martin_cranie]

I've never seen Modric play. Is he any good? What are his strengths and quicknesses? Does he have the pace to play on the wings? Is he a pass first, shoot layer type of player? We've had enough of those and I don't want another one :huh:

He gave us any number of headaches in the CL qualifiers at the beginning of last season. I haven't seen huge amounts of him but from what I know not only does he like to shoot, but he's got a damn good shot on him. Very energetic and hard working, good passing game and good pace.

While I have complete faith in Hleb, I believe as good as he is on the right, he's better on the left. He seems far more confident out there, willing to take his man on and really use his pace. If Wenger switched him over there, then Modric would be a lovely addition to the right side.

I think someone is trying to big-up one of his FL players. :rolleyes:

Not much point in biggin' up a reserve. :p

And I'm not going to declare that I want my beloved Arsenal to sign a guy who I don't believe is worthy of us.

[Jonny2J]

Either way, I hope that he gets back on the pitch and shows what he can do. Anyone with any sense wouldn't judge The Zog on one collectively lame season when he showed so much talent the season before. I personally would be very happy if Wenger went for him.That's what worries me about his attitude. We absolutely messed James Milner about something rotten, but he got on with it, fought for his place when he had every right to sulk and want to leave. But no, he knuckled down, made the shirt his own and proved a lot of people wrong including me about what he showed last season.

[CaptainCabinet]

I guarantee the same will happen with Pompey if they move stadium, everyone goes on about the atmosphere at Fratton Park but that's due to it being enclosed and you get a core element in there.

That's what worries me mate.

What also worries me is Ljunberg. I don't want him. However I've not actually heard anything about us getting him, so I'm not sure where that rumour has come from.

[Dragonfly]

That's what worries me mate.

What also worries me is Ljunberg. I don't want him. However I've not actually heard anything about us getting him, so I'm not sure where that rumour has come from.

I think you created it just now.

[Stella Artois]

Bash ours all you want mate, the atmosphere at St. James' Park is a travesty today, it's absolutely shocking to what it was. I respect the Toon Ultra's for trying to generate an atmosphere, they just go about it in all the wrong way.

Just I think it's completely wrong that a team, especially in the top 4 of the league needs to use speakers to generate an atmosphere. Then again especially with the move I can see how it can attract a more corporate element of fans.

I guarantee the same will happen with Pompey if they move stadium, everyone goes on about the atmosphere at Fratton Park but that's due to it being enclosed and you get a core element in there.

Our season tickets start from £850+. That's right, they start from £850. Therefore are you really that surprised that the atmosphere is poor? It isn't like it was in the 70's where my Dad could go along to every game he wanted, home and away, because nowadays people just can't afford it.

You'll find that a lot of people tend to live outside of London and in the surrounding suburbs and with the ever increasing train fares it costs me £15 just to get into and then back from London, whilst a ticket is anything from £40-70 (of the sort I'd want to get). Add some food, a bit of drink and you're talking £100+ for starters - something I can guarentee you don't get close to paying.

It's a sad fact that pretty much every club in London struggles for atmosphere. It's a combination of a few things, but ultimately the people to blame are the clubs themselves.

Oh, and at Arsenal nearly 9,000 seats are corporate - so yes, the club is fully geared towards that aspect.

[Rossy Boy]

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger allowed Thierry Henry to join Barcelona because physiological statistics and read-outs suggested the striker was past his best

Wenger will hand Cesc Fabregas the Arsenal vice-captaincy as a reward for the midfielder pledging his future to the club.

Arsenal are so confident that Wenger will extend his contract that the Gunners have not considered looking for a successor.

http://www.arsenal.com/images/wallpapers/chapmankit_800.jpg

i see that they have put denilson there now instead of henry

[Dundon's]

Fuck everyone else, if we sign Wenger next season it will be the same as signing 10 Thierry Hnery's.

I'd also imagine if he signs that they'll hand him an open cheque book, not that the tight fucker will even use it, but that's him all out right.

[Viperized]

Fabregas is a poor choice for vice-captaincy. Should've given it to Toure.

Fabregas isn't going to stay at Arsenal for the rest of his career, while Toure seems to be a likely candidate. I can only assume Gilberto will be given the armband and while he may be a decent choice I'd personally prefer Toure.

And yes I'd agree Dundons. We must renew a deal with Wenger. There aren't any good managers to replace him. Not to mention the fact half the team is seemingly willing to go should Wenger leave the club.

[Nturtle]

Fabregas is a poor choice for vice-captaincy. Should've given it to Toure.

Fabregas isn't going to stay at Arsenal for the rest of his career, while Toure seems to be a likely candidate. I can only assume Gilberto will be given the armband and while he may be a decent choice I'd personally prefer Toure.

And yes I'd agree Dundons. We must renew a deal with Wenger. There aren't any good managers to replace him. Not to mention the fact half the team is seemingly willing to go should Wenger leave the club.

Well..you never know Vip. Vice captaincy might help us keep young Fab a bit longer...you never know. Apart from Ashley who's now gone...there's nobody in the team that has come up through the ranks in such a way to be associated so in depth with Arsenal...and the youngsters in the team are now becoming that.

The pic above shows Denilson, Gilberto, Walcott and Cesc...that's pretty good marketing for the young talent!

Toure is more vocal..and that might be what we need sometimes from Gilberto...but he'll grow into it I feel. You don't just become captain overnight...and apart from the armband...you need the respect from players and Gilberto probably has a lot of that, and probably a LOT of other players too...like mad Jens, Toure, Cesc etc. It IS a team game, and the captaincy is not as crucial at Arsenal unless it is on the pitch and something is happening that needs Capatin's intervention.

Gilberto IS Brazil captain too you know...so he can't be half bad as club captain (in theory).

[Top Gun]

It might help keep Fabregas happy but it could also annoy Toure. Seem's like a bit of a kick in the teeth to me.

[JoeyM]

Toure isn't mature enough as a player enough to be captain, if there's anything last season showed it's that his anticipation and concentration aren't good enough to keep track of both himself and have the responsibility of organizing other players. He plays with plenty of heart and is very commited but I don't think he's quite there yet mentally.

[Dundon's]

I wouldn't really look into it too deep fellas as our last TWO captains fucked off and left us on our chops.

[JoeyM]

I wouldn't really look into it too deep fellas as our last TWO captains fucked off and left us on our chops.

I wouldn't say Paddy "fucked off and left us on our chops." considering it was Arsene's decision to sell him.

[Dundon's]

Bah... he was unsettled for years, for some reason it seemed like it was only a matter of time really.

P.S. How Bergkamp wasn't ever given the job in his prime is beyond me.

EDIT: AT SOME STAGE SO...

[Jonny2J]

Bah... he was unsettled for years, for some reason it seemed like it was only a matter of time really.

P.S. How Bergkamp wasn't ever given to job in his prime is beyond me.Think before you speak.

http://www.arsenal.com/Images/a/adams_evertoncelebration.jpg

[Barry]

Bergkamp wasn't very "vocal" on the pitch either, whereas there were several other leaders around.

[Dundon's]

And what Barry, them last two frogs were?

Think before you speak.

http://www.arsenal.com/Images/a/adams_evertoncelebration.jpg


What the fuck are you on about, Adams was gone well before the Iceman Hung up his boots. Bergkamp was the most respected player we ever signed and changed the way we play football.

P.S. Don't ever disrespect me like that again sunshine.

[Rossy Boy]

Here are Arsenal’s official squad numbers for the 2007/08 season.

As announced earlier this week, Eduardo has taken over the No 9 shirt. Fellow frontman Nicklas Bendtner has been handed No 26 on his return from a loan spell at Birmingham City. Keeper Lukasz Fabianski takes the No 21 shirt from the departing Mart Poom.

1. Jens LEHMANN
2. Abou DIABY
4. Francesc FABREGAS
5. Kolo TOURE
6. Philippe SENDEROS
7. Tomas ROSICKY
8. Fredrik LJUNGBERG
9. EDUARDO
10. William GALLAS
11. Robin VAN PERSIE
13. Alexander HLEB
15. DENILSON
16. Mathieu FLAMINI
17. Alexandre SONG
19. GILBERTO
20. Johan DJOUROU
21. Lukasz FABIANSKI
22. Gael CLICHY
24. Manuel ALMUNIA
25. Emmanuel ADEBAYOR
26. Nicklas BENDTNER
27. Emmanuel EBOUE
31. Justin HOYTE
32. Theo WALCOTT

:no: could of sorted them out abit better tbh

[Dragonfly]

Gallas still number 10? I thought Hleb or Rosicky would get it.

[Rossy Boy]

i know number fecking 3 is available why dont he have that or clichy have 3

[Dundon's]

The Gallas taking number 10 has fucked up me getting it on my shirt and I'm not happy.

Maybe Clichy doesn't want Coles number who knows.

[Scarface]

Sagna might take the #3 shirt, if the move goes through. I had hoped Rosicky would use the #10 shirt.

Flamini has supposedly made a u-turn and decided he wants to stay, after months of moaning. We should sell him for refusing to play as a full-back. He's very fortunate to play for a club of our stature, given his limited ability, so should be flogged for showing such a poor attitude and disrespect to the manager.

[martin_cranie]

I want Diaby out of the #2 shirt. Hand #8 to Diaby after Ljungberg is gone and give #2 to Eboue, damn it!

It would also be nice to see Rosicky in #10 and Hleb in #7. Gallas can wear a crap number, which would no doubt fit him wonderfully.

Oh, and yes, get rid of Flamini.

[Viperized]

We should cash in on Flamini and Freddie to be honest. We already have 4 midfielders better than Flamini and Freddie isn't good enough anymore. He is also rather prone to injuries.

[Jonny2J]

And what Barry, them last two frogs were?




What the fuck are you on about, Adams was gone well before the Iceman Hung up his boots. Bergkamp was the most respected player we ever signed and changed the way we play football.

P.S. Don't ever disrespect me like that again sunshine.I'm sorry but you said when Bergkamp was in his prime. Which was also when Adams was playing, not after Adams retired.

[Dundon's]

I'm sorry but you said when Bergkamp was in his prime. Which was also when Adams was playing, not after Adams retired.


Jonny, Bergkamp was always in his prime, the man is a legend.

[Nturtle]

Jonny, Bergkamp was always in his prime, the man is a legend.

Seconded! :cool:

[Nturtle]

I want Diaby out of the #2 shirt. Hand #8 to Diaby after Ljungberg is gone and give #2 to Eboue, damn it!

It would also be nice to see Rosicky in #10 and Hleb in #7. Gallas can wear a crap number, which would no doubt fit him wonderfully.

Oh, and yes, get rid of Flamini.

Such is life...it's not always logical! :realmad: Strange to see Flamini still around...Ljungberg must also know chances are limited...

[Jonny2J]

Jonny, Bergkamp was always in his prime, the man is a legend.By the time Adams had retired Bergkamp wasn't a regular in the starting lineup. Bergkamp's best season for me was 97/98 when he won PFA Player of the year, also when Adams was playing. So don't tell me any player during their career was always in their prime which is ridiculous. Although Wenger should have played him more but never due to his age which was a damn shame, as he's probably the player I loved to watch most in The Premiership around the time. In fact he's also the most gifted outfield player I've seen in the history of The Premiership.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7a-COfSBe8

What a guy, one player I sorely miss and I consider it an honour that I was at the game when he made a mockery of Dabizas. :crymore:

[pistolpete]

By the time Adams had retired Bergkamp wasn't a regular in the starting lineup. Bergkamp's best season for me was 97/98 when he won PFA Player of the year, also when Adams was playing. So don't tell me any player during their career was always in their prime which is ridiculous. Although Wenger should have played him more but never due to his age which was a damn shame, as he's probably the player I loved to watch most in The Premiership around the time. In fact he's also the most gifted outfield player I've seen in the history of The Premiership.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7a-COfSBe8

What a guy, one player I sorely miss and I consider it an honour that I was at the game when he made a mockery of Dabizas. :crymore:


What a great video.


I miss Dennis Bergkamp - What a player.

[Viperized]

Jonny, Bergkamp was often a regular at Arsenal until 2004. He played a good number of games during 04/05 too. The only season where he had the most limited number of appearances was in 05/06.

[Rossy Boy]

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=475611&CPID=8&clid=3&lid=2&title=Fresh+Cesc+talk+played+d own

[alpine goal]

Think before you speak.

http://www.arsenal.com/Images/a/adams_evertoncelebration.jpg

I may be a day behind but oh so true. Best ever captain at Arsenal full stop.

Strikers never make good captains, for me always center half or center midfield player.

[Dundon's]

By the time Adams had retired Bergkamp wasn't a regular in the starting lineup.

Are you on drugs?

[Jonny2J]

Are you on drugs?No I just thought Adams retired later than he had done.

[Dundon's]

Sure no worries.

[Rossy Boy]

Valencia are hoping to hear if Arsenal's Mathieu Flamini will join the club.

The Spanish giants have held talks with the unsettled Frenchman over a possible move to La Mestalla.

Flamini is looking to leave Arsenal after growing increasingly frustrated at his lack of first team opportunities at Emirates Stadium.

The former Marseille man is thought to be considering buying out the rest of his contract in order to escape the club.

Birmingham have been linked with the versatile performer, but Valencia are hoping to lure Flamini to Spain.

Valencia's sporting director Amedeo Carboni has called on Flamini to make a decision on the club's offer soon.

"We have spoken to him and we want an answer soon as we must make plans for the coming season," Carboni told The Mirror.


:)

[Dundon's]

On your bike son.

[alpine goal]

Also see that Flamini says he wants to stay at the club.

[Miggy]

That can't be right, I'm pretty sure Carboni isn't part of the club anymore let alone sporting director.

Wishful thinking from a fan I'm sure.

[Viperized]

There are quotes though.

[Joel]

That can't be right, I'm pretty sure Carboni isn't part of the club anymore let alone sporting director.

Wishful thinking from a fan I'm sure.

He's been sporting director since last season.

[Miggy]

Well he isn't at the club anymore and last I heard they were after Lucho Gonzalez.

[Zoolander]

Eduardo compilation (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=y1bffwvZVyc)

[Nturtle]

Eduardo compilation (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=y1bffwvZVyc)

Nice one God...that's a great link....to Giggs :realmad: ...whom I hope Eduarda can certainly outdo! :w00t

[Nturtle]

In fact he's also the most gifted outfield player I've seen in the history of The Premiership.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7a-COfSBe8

What a guy, one player I sorely miss and I consider it an honour that I was at the game when he made a mockery of Dabizas. :crymore:

Thanks Jonny for the link - fantastic vid by Gunnerz! Artistry in motion - I hope VP can emulate some of this soon! :w00t Having looked at the vid I can really say...his close control and touch is fantastic! :cool:

[Zoolander]

Nice one God...that's a great link....to Giggs :realmad: ...whom I hope Eduarda can certainly outdo! :w00t

1.

Check the other threads. :laugh:

[Dundon's]

Eduardo compilation (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=y1bffwvZVyc)

Cunt. :angry:

[Calzone]

Can someone compare Eduardo to any other footballer? I just want to know what style he plays.

[JoeyM]

Romario IMO.

[pistolpete]

Eduardo compilation (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=y1bffwvZVyc)

Can someone put a vid on the ManUre thread of us winning the league on their ground.

[Viperized]

Romario IMO.
Eduardo has said his idol is Romario and tries to base him game on his style of play.

[JoeyM]

Eduardo has said his idol is Romario and tries to base him game on his style of play.

Yep, doesn't surprise me. People were comparing him to RVN but he's much more mobile and much cleverer with the ball at his feet in and around the area than RVN is (judging from the Youtube comps of course:ninja: ).

[TomofArsenal14]

Hopefully they can make a good pairing when on together, apparently Arsene is also interested in his former zagreb teamate...Luka Modric...any opinions on him?

[Zoolander]

He looks pretty good in this compilation.

Luka Modric compilation (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=C5ZKA4JKNA0)

[AgentZero]

Cesc fabregas shows Real interest
source (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QALY0kbJWzs)

[TomofArsenal14]

Yea he looks like a good player...(nobody click the links!)..take my word for it..

[Scarface]

Cesc's Agent Denies Interest
Source (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_XYDtwELeA)

Arsenal Linked With Diego Milito
Source (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Nng4l4zjTQ)

Hopefully they can make a good pairing when on together, apparently Arsene is also interested in his former zagreb teamate...Luka Modric...any opinions on him?

He's excellent, but it would be difficult implementing him into the team with Hleb and Rosicky.

[TomofArsenal14]

Well I suppose he could be a sort of back-up for the time being, since flamini looks on his way out

[AgentZero]

adebayor ?! doesnt work like that mr montana

[Viperized]

LostGalactico, what is the Tevez situation like?

I'd hate him to join Man United, he is such a brilliant player..
Tevez stormer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPkxEvl3GYg)

[Scarface]

Well I suppose he could be a sort of back-up for the time being, since flamini looks on his way out

He'd be too expensive to be used as backup. I doubt Dinamo Zagreb would let him go for anything less than £10-12 million, and he is too talented to be sitting on the bench - he could be a starter for most top European clubs. I could only see Wenger making a move for him if he plans on using a different formation, with 3 attacking midfielders (choosing from Rosicky, Hleb, Modric, Van Persie and Ljungberg) in support of Eduardo or Adebayor, but that doesn't seem likely.

[AgentZero]

LostGalactico, what is the Tevez situation like?

I'd hate him to join Man United, he is such a brilliant player..
Tevez stormer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPkxEvl3GYg)
yeh, last time i heard of, it was going to be a 2 year loan spell with a 20M sale clause at the end of it. The key to the transfer is that west'am get the money and not MSI.

[TomofArsenal14]

yeh, last time i heard of, it was going to be a 2 year loan spell with a 20M sale clause at the end of it. The key to the transfer is that west'am get the money and not MSI.

so west ham get fined a few million then make all that and tevez single handedly kept them up, sounds like a good deal to me

[TomofArsenal14]

He'd be too expensive to be used as backup. I doubt Dinamo Zagreb would let him go for anything less than £10-12 million, and he is too talented to be sitting on the bench - he could be a starter for most top European clubs. I could only see Wenger making a move for him if he plans on using a different formation, with 3 attacking midfielders (choosing from Rosicky, Hleb, Modric, Van Persie and Ljungberg) in support of Eduardo or Adebayor, but that doesn't seem likely.

I read, don't remember where from, that Dinamo wanted more on the £20 million mark..don't know about that. It would be nice to have him on the team but like you said can't see Wenger being able to use him much and he's unlikely to sit on the bench if he's as good as the hype.

Just wondering..who does everybody think would be a good signing..and a realistic one?

[Wan]

For what club?

[Keyser Soze]

For what club?
Take a wild guess, considering this is the Arsenal Thread... :huh:

[Rossy Boy]

For what club?

:laugh: you do make me laugh sometimes wan

[AgentZero]

so west ham get fined a few million then make all that and tevez single handedly kept them up, sounds like a good deal to me

althought theyd love to keep him, West Ham knew that he wont be a hammer for too long. So they make 15M in profit since they didnt buy him.

[Zoolander]

althought theyd love to keep him, West Ham knew that he wont be a hammer for too long. So they make 15M in profit since they didnt buy him.

They'll get fuck all like they did from Mascherano. :laugh:

[Nturtle]

Well...looks like Babel might be on the way to Liverpool instead now...so...that potential "signing" of a "winger" cum striker looks like it has come to nothing.

Still a long time to go til the season starts...but presumably Wenger will sign players before pre-season games?!!? Dunno...can't remember what happenend last season except for Rosicky signed straight before WC!

[Top Gun]

Just wondering if the Arsenal fan's reckon that Thierry Henry's number should be retired?

[Dragonfly]

I don't believe any number should ever be retired.

[Gooner10]

No way give it to someone and get it over and done with, if I was wenger though I wouldn't give it to a striker..they have enough pressure trying to 'fill his boots' :)

[Rossy Boy]

Didnt They Retire Adams Number for A season or two?

so if they did retire his number it wouldnt be long before someone else gets it

[Viperized]

Just wondering if the Arsenal fan's reckon that Thierry Henry's number should be retired?
No.

Fabregas admitted in an interview Henry said he had this desire/ambition to play in the Nou Camp in the middle of last season.

So this proves what Henry said when he left was a load of shite. Clearly he only done it to somewhat comfort the fans.

And while he may be the club's leading goalscorer, he simply doesn't deserve a testimonial, but won't be getting one anyway - you have to play for a club for a minimum of 10 years to get a testimonial.

Henry leaving Arsenal was entirely his decision, not Wenger's.

[Dundon's]

Just wondering if the Arsenal fan's reckon that Thierry Henry's number should be retired?

I'd much rather see him retire now at this stage to be honest. Henry and someone like Baresi/Adams are different breed of animals when it comes to dedication.

Maybe we could get back Cygan and give it to him.

[Tigermen]

Boy Dundons are you gonna be mad if Thierry ever signs for N.W.O. FC!!

Seriously dude he was a great player for us, now he's gone. Don't hold it against him. Just do what I do - be thankful for the great memories whilst secretly kind of hoping he does his cruciate in his first game for Barca and has to retire.

No wait, I mean...put all your Henry hating energy into Da Silva loving energy. Look forwards not backwards my man, I know you can do it!

Anyway, Reyes +10mil for Robinho is being touted. Probably a load of testicles but would everyone be happy with that?

[Wan]

Robinho sure is good..

[Dragonfly]

I'm not really a fan of Robinho, but he's matured and is in hot form at the moment.

[martin_cranie]

I don't believe any number should ever be retired.

Completely agree. It would be quite a lot of pressure if a forward came in and wore it any time soon though, so probably best to do the old Gallas 10 trick.

[Viperized]

Robinho is a good player but I'm not sure where he would play and I'm not sure how he would adapt.

The Premier League isn't a league suited for him. He should stay in La Liga.

[Gooner10]

It'd be worth it if it's only Reyes plus some money but if it involves Cesc then we can do without...it would be better to keep him even if we were to get Robinho in return...which is probably unlikely anyway

[Keyser Soze]

Robinho is a good player but I'm not sure where he would play and I'm not sure how he would adapt.

The Premier League isn't a league suited for him. He should stay in La Liga.
He'd slot nicely in left midfield actually, but you're right about adapating, he'd do very well to cope with the physical sides to the Premiership.

[Dundon's]

Boy Dundons are you gonna be mad if Thierry ever signs for N.W.O. FC!!

Seriously dude he was a great player for us, now he's gone. Don't hold it against him. Just do what I do - be thankful for the great memories whilst secretly kind of hoping he does his cruciate in his first game for Barca and has to retire.

No wait, I mean...put all your Henry hating energy into Da Silva loving energy. Look forwards not backwards my man, I know you can do it!

:laugh:

Don't worry mate I'm well over him. :unsure:

Anyway, Reyes +10mil for Robinho is being touted. Probably a load of testicles but would everyone be happy with that?



That's cockabull anyways, you'd be lucky to get Robinho for 50m now at the rate he's after improving and with Barca having the other wonder kid Madrid just wouldn't be having none of that. If we got 8m ish for Reyes I'd be happy.

[Calzone]

Unhappy Gallas in Arsenal blast.

http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/7003674

I'd take his ass to Milan.(no homo)

[Nturtle]

Unhappy Gallas in Arsenal blast.

http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/7003674

I'd take his ass to Milan.(no homo)

Gallas sure has a BIG mouth...let's hope he get's transferred outta here to France or something...we dont' need big shots like him...

Robinho I've always felt to be a bit airy fairy...but his form is good at the moment as mentioned. Good point about Cesc before...if it even alludes to some swap thing with him...forget it...ain't gonna happen.

Well...all I can hope for...is the start of the pre-season and to see some clips of Eduardo in action for us. The tournaments will be exciting for sure!

N

[Dundon's]

I've never taken to Gallas, he's a great player but has no business with us.

[Nturtle]

Well....for all I care...he can go and languish somewhere else if he can't use his experience for the betterment of the TEAM, not him individually...what an arse! Well...still we probably get some defensive cover with the African Cup thing to be played...and better to have him than Cashley I guess...HA!

[Viperized]

I agree with what Gallas has said but he can fuck off now.

Then again, if he fucks off Wenger will probably sign a 16 year old defender to replace him.

So in that case, lets keep him.

edit: Nevermind, Gallas is a winner. He wants to win things. I agree with pretty much every word he has said. Maybe this will send a message to Wenger to sign proven players.

Of course, the talented youngsters that he signs are good, but those shouldn't be his only signings to be honest.

[Wan]

Havard Nordveit?

[Gooner10]

I think the best thing we can hope for now is nobody significant leaving (Cesc for example) and a good winger. Apparently we're very close to signing Sagna...can't see the point in that myself he's not going to want to sit on the bench and we have enough defensive cover imo

[Viperized]

Cesc is a bit of a cunt.

"I will leave when Wenger leaves."

He has no sense of loyalty towards Arsenal. :rolleyes:

[Dundon's]

Yeah I know, what the fuck is that all about like. These players are disrespecting our football club on a weekly basis with these negative comments and I'm sick to death of it.

Long before any of these twats turned up we were doing fine, if I was the board I'd march into the dressing room with a list and ask all the cunts who don't love the club to fuck off out the door, then sell there ass's. This is getting out of control and someone better lay down the law pronto.

For the first time ever Wenger and hs silence is starting to piss me off a wee bit, c'mon man say something, feel our pain. :crymore:

[Calzone]

Put some English men on the starting line up and they will show the club some respect.:laugh:

[Viperized]

All good English players are already playing at top clubs.

90% of English players in the Premiership aren't good enough for the top clubs.

[pistolpete]

Looks like Gallas shouting his mouth off about the lack of big name signings has caused Wenger to go out and buy this guy Sagna, who will probably relace him.

I agree with Viperized that Gallas is a winner and his experience in winning things is important but what a big mouth he has.

Last season he critisized the medical staff - he has to be the 1st ever player to critisize the Arsenal physio's!

Id like him to stay but to knuckle down and try to stay fit.

Probably goodbye Senderos, hopefully get a few $ for him,
Hope Djourou stays - i can see him as a defesive midfielder as well as becoming a top class centre half.

[Viperized]

Djourou should definitely stay. He is a defender with great potential.

Senderos can go. Since the World Cup, his performances have only been going downfall. Unless he rediscovers the form he had in the World Cup or the Champions League back then. He looks low on confidence.

I would love someone like Naldo to replace Gallas. He could compliment Toure very well.

[Keyser Soze]

Looks like Gallas shouting his mouth off about the lack of big name signings has caused Wenger to go out and buy this guy Sagna, who will probably relace him.
.
I doubt it, Arsenal have been chasing this guy for the last couple months.

[martin_cranie]

It'd be a shame to lose Senderos. So many people jump on his back after one poor season, seemingly forgetting that aside from a lack of pace he's one of the best young centre backs in world football. He and Djourou are incredible talents.

I hope he stays, and imagine that Wenger would prefer to keep him. After all, you don't give someone Adams' number if they don't have a future at the club.

Replacing Gallas would be my preferred option. Someone like Woodgate would be ideal but simply won't happen. Naldo could well be a good option, however I haven't seen enough of him to say for sure.

[Nturtle]

Well...defensively...we could be doing better, but dont forget Senderos and Toure were part of the 49er club when we were unbeaten! So...don't write off the young Swiss yet...and yes...he has Adams' number too!

Sagna might be a good buy to give some competition to ?Hleb on the right - Eboue or Sagna could move up there, leaving Hoyte/Djourou etc to be right back. I must say...Hoyte isn't that bad really! He's getting that experience, he's been at the wrong end of things with Sunderland when on loan, so he's well groomed. He definitely needs to step up a level though to be world class and match Eboue/Clichy in dynamicism and decisiveness in crosses. Hey...at least he has scored one for us!

Maybe we should be turning our attention to the midfield..and how to balance that our well - Hleb is sometimes good, sometimes shocking...Rosicky revels in more a central role...occupied by Gilberto and Cesc...what can we do?

[Tigermen]

Well...defensively...we could be doing better, but dont forget Senderos and Toure were part of the 49er club when we were unbeaten! So...don't write off the young Swiss yet...and yes...he has Adams' number too!

Much as I love Big Phil I'm afraid that's not true mate. Sad man that I am I distinctly remember that his Prem debut was as a sub for Campbell in Jan 2005 against Charlton which was after the unbeaten record. Are you sure you're not getting confused with the fact that Toure and Senderos were part of the record breaking Champions League defence?

And yes, Phil gets way too much stick. Just like Hleb he's become an easy target for fans. The way Wenger treated him (continually preferring Gilberto to him) was nothing short of disgraceful. Admittedly he hadn't had the best season, but he hadn't played badly enough to deserve such a vote of no confidence. His talent is there for all to see but in my opinion he was poorly handled by Wenger and his confidence must have been hugely dented.

I watched our final game of the season vs Pompey and we looked extremely solid defensively. It was Senderos' first game for a while and the difference in having one of our defenders actually attack and dominate the ball was so refreshing. Just because its said often, doesn't make it any less true - neither Toure or Gallas are dominant enough for them to play comfortably together. Yes he's not the fastest and he can be prone to errors but let me remind you guys, Tony Adams didnt get the nickname donkey for nothing and look how he turned out.

I'll imagine I'll get laughed at for this but I honestly think Big Phil is the best 'natural' defender we have. His reading of the game is superb, he just needs a good run of games to get his confidence going.

[JoeyM]

^Good post.

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/5826/sagnasz7.jpg

For those who haven't seen it yet, a pic of our (just about) new signing, Sagna. He's #3.;)

[pistolpete]

I dont dislike senderos but i just dont think he is good enough, sure he is talented, but i see him making at least 2 mistakes per game.

I have the Real Madrid (1-0) game on tape, and although he had a decent game, the couple of times they came closest to scoring, it was a mistake from senderos. That just about sums him up for me.

On picking Gilberto ahead of him, Gilberto used to play CB and he was captain at the time, so it was Wengers decision to play Diaby/Denilson in Gilberto's position instead of PS at the back - i am happy for Wenger to drop a certain player if his confidence/form is low - the whole idea is to pick the best side to win that match.

Although it is a good point that he is no.6, and he wouldnt have that number without being in AW plans.
Dont think the numbers mean much though, Henry was 14 for years, Gallas10, Diaby2, Adebayor looks like he will be our main striker this season and he has 25.

[Dundon's]

Gutted for Gilberto, that ref was a bit of a cunt after that stoppage time yellow card last night. If Brazil win the trophy it would of been nice to see him lifting it.

[Viperized]

Gilberto is captain for Brazil?

[Joel]

Gutted for Gilberto, that ref was a bit of a cunt after that stoppage time yellow card last night. If Brazil win the trophy it would of been nice to see him lifting it.

No need to worry...Argentina will win.


Gilberto is captain for Brazil?

Yeah.

[Bammers05]

Freddie Ljungberg is seemingly edging towards the exit door at Arsenal after it was confirmed talks over his future are ongoing.

Fiorentina have opened talks with Arsenal about the transfer of the Swedish midfielder.

And for the first time Ljungberg's agent has confirmed that talks are ongoing.

"The two clubs are in discussions," Claes Elefalk told Swedish news agency TT.

"If they come to an agreement, Fredrik can think about looking at a move."

"Fredrik is really happy at Arsenal, but if it is an option, he could also consider a move to Fiorentina."

Both Manchester City and Sunderland have also been linked with a move for Ljungberg, but the lure of Serie A seems the most tempting option available to the 30-year-old Swede.

Reports in Italy have also suggested that Arsenal have enquired about the possibility of including striker Valeri Bojinov in the deal.

The Bulgarian is not part of Fiorentina's plans and is available - but Arsenal would have to offer money as well as Ljungberg to land Bojinov, although a loan move could be an option for The Gunners - should they firm up their interest in the 21-year-old, who spent last season on loan at Juventus.

Source (http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=476261&CPID=8&clid=3&lid=&title=Ljungberg+talks+ongoing&channel=&)

Looks like Freddy is leaving then, as for Bojinov, well from what I've seen he looks like quite a good player and I think it would be quite a good deal

[Viperized]

Better to sell Freddie as quick as possible.

Gouffran looks like a great player from Youtube. Reminds me of Anelka. He is a winger/striker.

[Dundon's]

Arsenal are supposed to be buying a new 14 year old, his name is sfgbsfb sfbsfbzv and it's only costing us 16m.

[JoeyM]

Arsenal are supposed to be buying a new 14 year old, his name is sfgbsfb sfbsfbzv and it's only costing us 16m.

:no:

[Dundon's]

I know Jo, I'm just fed the fuck up of the negativity coming out of our club/dressing room all summer AGAIN this year. These players Gallas/Fab/ are turning our club into a joke with the comments they're spitting out on a weekly basis, if they want to win things so badly I'd suggest they shut the fuck up and do what they're getting well paid to do

Wenger not saying anything is freaking me out.

[Gooner10]

You would have thought that if wenger had made his mind up to stay he would say so..it could only do good for the club, maybe this points to him still being uncertain which is no good..players are just going to feel to unsure about being there

[Dundon's]

Even aside from that he should come out and explain the Henry thing and tell his squad to shut it, It's understandable saying you like playing under a manager but we're not Arsene F.C, maybe Fab didn't understand that before we gave him a contract and made him a star. All we seem to do anymore is develop these unknowns and turn them into Internationals only to then sell them on again just when they're hitting their prime and have a chance to give back something to the CLUB.

The Dream...

Wenger does an interview addressing the Henry sale, signs a new contract along with ONE world class player (I don't care what position) that we can get really excited about.

[Viperized]

Gallas is questioning the club.

That says it all. None of our players know whats going on at Arsenal!

I agree Dundon's. Wenger's silence is very worrying.

[Gooner10]

True, and I totally agree if we sign a world class player at the very least it'll stop all these other clubs supporters saying we're falling apart because of Henry's departure.

What are the chances of all that though? :(

Also like you said it must be a dream come true for players to play under such a good manager but even if you feel you would go if he did you should at least keep your mouth shut for the sake of the club and fans, its not just the manager that makes a club

[Dundon's]

I'll tell you what hurts me most, for the last 8 or so years we worshiped the feet of the likes Henry, did the same with Paddy, Overmars, Petit, Anelka, Cole etc only for them to kick dirt in our faces and leave us high and dry as soon as they got "too big" for our club. Fab is doing the same thing now, does us supporting and singing their names in the stands mean nothing anymore. If they make this brat vice captain it's a disgrace and won't stop him going anywhere when he comes of age.

I can't see the Barca fans singing Thierry Henry, Thierry Henry week in week out can you?

P.S. Look back at how many great players Man utd and Liverpool lost over the years out of players wanting to go onto bigger things, that's the difference.

[Sully]

Woe is me

[Dundon's]

On your bike son, we're going through the motions.

[Dragonfly]

The thing is, players play for themselves nowadays, unless they play for a team they actually support, and have done since they were kids. Players play to earn as much money as possible, win as many medals and awards as they can, and basically look out for number one, which in a way is fair enough, but clearly not fair to the fans. I won't say not fair to the clubs though, because they're the same as players. At the end of it, it's the fans that suffer.

[Gooner10]

The worst thing is when players like cole come through the club they 'love' and then leave because they want more money. Its horrible to think that even the most seemingly dedicated players still piss off when barca etc come knocking...I can see how the team is uneasy because who knows who will stay and who will go. Wenger needs to do something, I would have thought he would have talked to them behind the scenes though...hopefully to tell gallas to shut the fuck up or go

[Sully]

At the end of the day though lads its just a job like many of us have.

All this is said about loyalty but if any of you were offered the same job that paid a few grand a year more then what you currently earned you'd bite their hands off. Its a sad fact

[Dundon's]

I agree, but you'd think if you started a new job in a company you never knew existed that over the course of a few years you'd grow to love the place and want to give back some love for the rewards you received in the meantime (new contract/medals/fans/friends/memories) .

They have a name for people like these, it's called mercenaries and we always get stuck with the cunts.

[JoeyM]

FFS, I'd have hated to have been around you lot when we replaced Anelka with that French winger who couldn't get into Juve's team and that past it Croat who scored a few goals in the WC.

[Gooner10]

Depends really..if you had a job you loved you wouldn't leave it for a bit more money

[Dundon's]

FFS, I'd have hated to have been around you lot when we replaced Anelka with that French winger who couldn't get into Juve's team and that past it Croat who scored a few goals in the WC.

Are you saying we should be cool with selling our best players EVERY summer?

[Dragonfly]

Are you saying we should be cool with selling our best players EVERY summer?

To get someone who turns out to be much better? Yes please. :happy:

[Gooner10]

Then you've got the time between buying them and them becoming better...if only wenger would sign someone who was immediately better and we could relax a bit

[Dundon's]

@Dragonfly: Dude I understand it works out that way for us the best of times, but at moment I'm going through terrible trauma. I seriously doubt we'll ever get a player to match Henry.

[JoeyM]

Are you saying we should be cool with selling our best players EVERY summer?

No, but you act like we're the only team who sells it's top players. Man Yoo sold Beckham and RVN, AC Milan sold Sheva and have to withstand speculation of Kaka's future similar to Cesc's. Liverpool...well Liverpool don't have players worth wanting, but you get my point. We don't "always get stuck with the all the mercenaries." Players change clubs, it's just the way it works.

[Keyser Soze]

Then you've got the time between buying them and them becoming better...if only wenger would sign someone who was immediately better and we could relax a bit
Okay, find a striker who realisticly Arsene could sign who is "immediately better" than Henry? :rolleyes:

[Dundon's]

No, but you act like we're the only team who sells it's top players. Man Yoo sold Beckham and RVN, AC Milan sold Sheva and have to withstand speculation of Kaka's future similar to Cesc's. Liverpool...well Liverpool don't have players worth wanting, but you get my point. We don't "always get stuck with the all the mercenaries."

Beckham, Stam and RVN were all forced out of Old trafford and all of them would of been happy to see out the rest of there playing days there, that I'm sure of.

NOBODY leaves utd.

[Barry]

I heard Hasselbaink is available on a free? :w00t

[Gooner10]

Okay, find a striker who realisticly Arsene could sign who is "immediately better" than Henry? :rolleyes:

Exactly...you can't. Its Henry. No club could replace him. But I doubt Eduardo would be the best replacement we could get....suppose what i'm saying is at least a bit of experience wouldn't go a miss

[JoeyM]

Beckham, Stam and RVN were all forced out of Old trafford and all of them would of been happy to see out the rest of there playing days there, that I'm sure of.

NOBODY leaves utd.

I'm sure Ashley Cole and Patrick Vieira would say they were forced out of Arsenal as well. The fact is that Man Utd still sold some of their best players. Juve sold Zidane, Barca sold Ronaldo and Figo. Big deals happen. Get the fuck over it.

[Gooner10]

I'm sure Ashley Cole and Patrick Vieira would say they were forced out of Arsenal as well. The fact is that Man Utd still sold some of their best players. Juve sold Zidane, Barca sold Ronaldo and Figo. Big deals happen. Get the fuck over it.

If only we made some big deals with the money that come from it. You can't just sell them without backup at least..and not some youngster who will prove good in a few years.

[Dundon's]

I'm sure Ashley Cole and Patrick Vieira would say they were forced out of Arsenal as well. The fact is that Man Utd still sold some of their best players. Juve sold Zidane, Barca sold Ronaldo and Figo. Big deals happen. Get the fuck over it.


Thierry Henry mate, bit of respect. ;)

[Gooner10]

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=476368&CPID=8&clid=3&lid=&title=Rosicky+happy+with+squad

not sure i'm happy with the squad as a whole but at least Rosicky is hopeful :D

[Viperized]

FFS, I'd have hated to have been around you lot when we replaced Anelka with that French winger who couldn't get into Juve's team and that past it Croat who scored a few goals in the WC.
What are you on about? Suker was a proven striker was a capable finisher.

Secondly, that team had the likes of Vieira, Bergkamp, Overmars etc - it was full of proven, world-class players.

Today we desperately need an experienced player. We have too many young players.

[Viperized]

No, but you act like we're the only team who sells it's top players. Man Yoo sold Beckham and RVN, AC Milan sold Sheva and have to withstand speculation of Kaka's future similar to Cesc's. Liverpool...well Liverpool don't have players worth wanting, but you get my point. We don't "always get stuck with the all the mercenaries." Players change clubs, it's just the way it works.
Not really.

Cesc has said: "I'll leave when Wenger will leave" a million times.

Kaka has never said anything like that and is clearly happy at Milan. Has Kaka ever said: "One day I'd love to play for Barcelona/Real Madrid?" Of course not.

Fabregas says: "Barca is my dream team and I would love to play for them" almost every other week. I'm getting sick of it. It is like he is using Arsenal as a fucking stepping stone.

[Viperized]

I'm sure Ashley Cole and Patrick Vieira would say they were forced out of Arsenal as well. The fact is that Man Utd still sold some of their best players. Juve sold Zidane, Barca sold Ronaldo and Figo. Big deals happen. Get the fuck over it.
Cole forced out of Arsenal.... haha. It was entirely his decision. He didn't want to stay because he wasn't being offered £60k per week despite playing for 'the club he loves'.

As for Vieira, Wenger sold him.

As for Thierry, it was entirely his decision. He wanted to leave since December 2006 apparently.

Keep in mind that the likes of Juve, Barca and Man United BUY SOME ESTABLISHED STARS to replace their players. Wenger didn't buy when we lost Edu and Vieira, and so on. We have lost far more players over the past few years than gaining some.

[Joel]

Not really.

Cesc has said: "I'll leave when Wenger will leave" a million times.

Kaka has never said anything like that and is clearly happy at Milan. Has Kaka ever said: "One day I'd love to play for Barcelona/Real Madrid?" Of course not.

Fabregas says: "Barca is my dream team and I would love to play for them" almost every other week. I'm getting sick of it. It is like he is using Arsenal as a fucking stepping stone.

Barcelona are a huge team, Cesc is Catalan...What do you expect?

[Stella Artois]

God you lot act like a bunch of babies.

There is no civil unrest at the club. If Gallas (being the only one mind you) decides its necessary to shoot off his mouth, that's fine. It really doesn't mean a thing. After all, this is the guy who two years ago said we had no chance of winning the title and it was Chelsea's time to dominate - yet now he doesn't want to be playing for third place at Arsenal? Make your mind up Motor Mouth Willy.

Selling players doesn't make us a selling club. The only players we've ever let go that wasn't our choice were Anelka, Petit, Overmars and Henry. These four combined gave us around £47m profit and not one of them (excluding Henry) were as half as good as they were at us. Other players such as Vieria and Cole who were sold because we wanted to get rid of them have also been poor subsequently.

What a lot of you need to understand is that Arsene isn't a manager who after selling someone for £20m, then goes out and buys a replacement for the same amount. He reinvests the money and uses it to secure the next group of stars. Its the way it's always been.

Moving on, I've got to say that I'm looking forward to seeing Eboue playing on the right-wing. It should give Hleb a much-needed kick up the arse.

[martin_cranie]

God you lot act like a bunch of babies.

There is no civil unrest at the club. If Gallas (being the only one mind you) decides its necessary to shoot off his mouth, that's fine. It really doesn't mean a thing. After all, this is the guy who two years ago said we had no chance of winning the title and it was Chelsea's time to dominate - yet now he doesn't want to be playing for third place at Arsenal? Make your mind up Motor Mouth Willy.

Selling players doesn't make us a selling club. The only players we've ever let go that wasn't our choice were Anelka, Petit, Overmars and Henry. These four combined gave us around £47m profit and not one of them (excluding Henry) were as half as good as they were at us. Other players such as Vieria and Cole who were sold because we wanted to get rid of them have also been poor subsequently.

What a lot of you need to understand is that Arsene isn't a manager who after selling someone for £20m, then goes out and buys a replacement for the same amount. He reinvests the money and uses it to secure the next group of stars. Its the way it's always been.

Moving on, I've got to say that I'm looking forward to seeing Eboue playing on the right-wing. It should give Hleb a much-needed kick up the arse.

Well said Stella. With reference to the last point, it could also see Hleb moved over to the left where he may well be more comfortable - as he was at Stuttgart - but either way it should work out well for us.

[Tigermen]

What are you on about? Suker was a proven striker was a capable finisher.

Secondly, that team had the likes of Vieira, Bergkamp, Overmars etc - it was full of proven, world-class players.

Today we desperately need an experienced player. We have too many young players.

Er dude......I think he was being like tongue in cheek :tongue:

[JoeyM]

In response the Viperized's 3 posts

1) I fucking know who Suker is.

2)No but Madrid have repeatedly come out with statements that could nearly be qualified as tapping up, Kaka may not have declared his love for Real, but he hasn't done much to quell the rumours

3)Reread my post

What a lot of you need to understand is that Arsene isn't a manager who after selling someone for £20m, then goes out and buys a replacement for the same amount. He reinvests the money and uses it to secure the next group of stars. Its the way it's always been

Indeed, I wish people would understand that it's Wenger's job to win football matches, not make a few trophy signing to give a few excitable fans a hard on.

[Del Piero]

Henry is a fantastic player, but i dont think Arsenal will miss him that much.

In the end you could see that he was putting peoples heads down and you dont need that in a team.

Gallas is a prick he needs to go, hes doing exactly the same.

Why would a player want to unsettle hes own club? why?

Arsenal have got enough class to do well, add players like Sagna, Martins etc things can only get better.

[Dundon's]

@Stella: You don't have to explain to me the way Arsene works mate, my point is that deep down I'm devastated Henry is gone and that others look as though the writing is on the wall. Watching the other 3 buy half Europe isn't helping matters either when everything we read in the papers is negative. With the current trend how many players in the Arsenal squad will go onto get testimonials, the number is very worrying.

I said it before, I'm 110% behind the manager in every decision he makes as I'm sure he knows what he's doing and is a lot more qualified then the likes of me to call the shots. If he signs a new deal everything will be fine I'm sure, I don't want to think the opposite.

[Stella Artois]

Thing is mate, what is there to actually be negative about? Sure United have spent a lot, but it doesn't mean that the signings will be a success, and Chelsea haven't exactly signed a bunch of players to get excited about; whilst Benetiz must be on the verge of a breakdown judging by the signings he's making.

I can understand your frustration so far as the silence goes, but I think its purely something that the media are hyping up in order to make it a bigger issue than it is. After all other than Motor Mouth Willy, not one player has had a moan in the press.

[Dundon's]

I'll soldier on mate, I just run my mouth a lot when I get annoyed. Things will pick up as soon as we see a few pre season games, I know. :)

[TomofArsenal14]

has sagna actually signed? i can't find anything on it

[Viperized]

Barcelona are a huge team, Cesc is Catalan...What do you expect?
Fabregas should shut up and keep it to himself instead of sprouting it out every other week.

[Viperized]

has sagna actually signed? i can't find anything on it
There was a picture of him with an Arsenal shirt on the stadium, so I'd say he has signed.

I think the deal should be confirmed tomorrow.

[Rossy Boy]

Arsenal could yet bid £13m for Newcastle striker Obafemi Martins and trigger his release clause.

[TomofArsenal14]

yea i've heard about the martins rumours. he'd be a good signing in my opinion just incase eduardo doesn't fit in straight away. martins has premier league experience

[Nturtle]

Much as I love Big Phil I'm afraid that's not true mate. Sad man that I am I distinctly remember that his Prem debut was as a sub for Campbell in Jan 2005 against Charlton which was after the unbeaten record. Are you sure you're not getting confused with the fact that Toure and Senderos were part of the record breaking Champions League defence?

Fair dos mate...sorry...I must have got that mixed up...forgot about Campbell!

Ah well...we'll probably see something happen at some point...only like a month to go for the first game...we'll survive lads...as long as Gallas shuts up and Wenger says SOMETHING at some point! HA!

[Barry]

I don't see too much problems with Arsenal's overall quality. Talents have matured a year, there are class players in every line of the field still with Van Persie, Fabregas, Rosicky, Toure, Gallas, Gilberto, Eboue etc. Of course a big name would be good for publicity, but where are gonna fit him?

[Dragonfly]

As if we didn't know already, it's finally been confirmed, Sagna is now an Arsenal player. It looks like Wenger has plans to use him as a utility player. A better version of Flamini, maybe.

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=476556&CPID=8&clid=3&lid=3&title=Sagna+seals+Gunners+swit ch

[Dundon's]

Arsenal have completed the signing of Auxerre full-back Bakari Sagna.

The former French Under 21 international has penned a long-term deal at Emirates Stadium after the two clubs agreed an undisclosed fee believed to be around £6million.

Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger was delighted to have sealed the signing of the 24-year-old, who he does not see as just a right-back.

"We are delighted to have signed Bakari Sagna," Wenger told the club's website.

"He is a very capable defender and has played consistently well for Auxerre in recent seasons.

"He plays mainly at right-back, but can also play along the defence or in midfield. He is strong, quick and enjoys defending but also has a good offensive side to his game.

"He has a fighting spirit and will be a very good addition to our squad."

Sagna himself was understandably pleased to have finally sealed his move.

"It is great to be joining Arsenal and I'm excited to be playing alongside many great players," he said.

"I know Abou Diaby from our time together at Auxerre and also Gael Clichy and Mathieu Flamini from the French Under 21 team.

"Also Arsene Wenger is a major reason why I have signed for Arsenal. He is an excellent manager with a fantastic record and I am really looking forward to working with him.

"I'm also looking forward to playing at Emirates Stadium and winning trophies for the club and all the supporters."


:huh:

[Dragonfly]

:D I was thinking that too.

[Rossy Boy]

I Havnt seen him play before is he any good?


Arsenal are ready to spend £2m on 21-year-old Caen striker Yoan Gouffran.

Manchester City are close to landing Arsenal midfielder Freddie Ljungberg in a £6m deal.

[Viperized]

:huh:
Why are you shocked? A lot of players have said the same.

i.e. Henry said he left because Wenger wasn't going to renew his contract (total bullshit though - Henry wanted to leave all along. He was incredibly lazy in many games last season despite scoring 10 goals in the Premiership) and Fabregas' commitment to Wenger as opposed to Arsenal.

[Viperized]

I don't see too much problems with Arsenal's overall quality. Talents have matured a year, there are class players in every line of the field still with Van Persie, Fabregas, Rosicky, Toure, Gallas, Gilberto, Eboue etc. Of course a big name would be good for publicity, but where are gonna fit him?
Arsenal need a winger who can score goals.

[Jesus]

Maybe after getting Martins, you'll shift to 4-3-3 and then play RVP on the left wing, Gilberto will be DMF, Fabregas CMF and Rosicky(sp?) being the AMF.

[Calzone]

Maybe after getting Martins, you'll shift to 4-3-3 and then play RVP on the left wing, Gilberto will be DMF, Fabregas CMF and Rosicky(sp?) being the AMF.

Arsenal got Martins?

[Jesus]

My mistake, I meant, if they get Martins because there were rumors of him being linked with Arsenal.

Sorry :tongue:

[Gooner10]

Can Martins play on the wing? :D

[Jonny2J]

Can Martins play on the wing? :DNo.

[Barry]

Arsenal need a winger who can score goals.

Hmm I was modelling for a 4-4-2 but if you play 4-3-3, yeah you could do with one.

[alpine goal]

Cant see us getting an out and out winger or playing 4-3-3.
4-5-1 yes when needed, but mainly 4-4-2. I dont think we need any more players squad looks fine. But any extra gonners would be good, but then I would expect more players to leave if we sign new players.

If I could sign one dream player for the Arsenal it would be KAKA not that we been linked or could afford him.

[Gooner10]

We need a Pires-like player to make those runs into the box as well as offering options on the wing

[Scarface]

I dont think we need any more players squad looks fine

I feel we do need a winger, but the signings so far have been impressive and all in areas that needed strengthening. With cash on the way from the likely sales of Reyes, Ljungberg and Hoyte, hopefully Wenger will have his eye on one or two exciting wide players.

[Rossy Boy]

yeah it will be good to see more width in the team

[alpine goal]

I feel we do need a winger, but the signings so far have been impressive and all in areas that needed strengthening. With cash on the way from the likely sales of Reyes, Ljungberg and Hoyte, hopefully Wenger will have his eye on one or two exciting wide players.

Theo Helb Rosicky and may be Eboue to fight out the wide roles ?

If Lungberg leaves then I could see us buying a wide player, I cant see us replacing Reyes. If both leave then may be a wide player would come in.

Think of the wide players we been linked with and have not signed. I think we would have signed one by now if we were going too. Not saying I would not welcome a winger as I would.

We have missed Pires on the left but then I think he is our finest leftsided player ever !

[Scarface]

Theo Helb Rosicky and may be Eboue to fight out the wide roles ?

If Lungberg leaves then I could see us buying a wide player, I cant see us replacing Reyes. If both leave then may be a wide player would come in.

Think of the wide players we been linked with and have not signed. I think we would have signed one by now if we were going too. Not saying I would not welcome a winger as I would.

We have missed Pires on the left but then I think he is our finest leftsided player ever !

We've been linked with dozens of players by the press, and Fabianski and Eduardo da Silva signed completely out of the blue without ever being linked to us, so it's almost impossible to predict what Wenger is planning. We allegedly made a 10.5m bid for Ribery, which if true, indicates we may be after a winger.

Hopefully Walcott will start getting more experience as a forward, as that's where I have been most impressed with him, and Eboue is likely to still regularly play as a right-back I would imagine, so a top drawer winger wouldn't go amiss. As talented as Rosicky and Hleb are, we could do with a player that will stick out wide and stretch play. It doesn't have to be a big name necessarily, someone like Vladimir Bystrov (of Spartak Moscow and Russia) would be a very good addition to our squad.

[Rossy Boy]

Yeah as Rosicky Likes To cut In Alot and Hleb sort of does the same thing

[alpine goal]

All our players inter-changed thats why our "wide" come in. We never played getting balls in the box for some one to head since Smith. But Edu' looks like he will get in the mixer, so may be Arsene will do it again and sign some one were not expecting, like an out and out winger.

[JoeyM]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2007320427,00.html

He's staying.:happy:

[Dundon's]

That's great news.

Mr. Wenger, you're up next. :)

[Top Gun]

To be fair, it is The Sun. Not the most truted source.

[JoeyM]

Considering it has several direct quotes, I'd say it's pretty reliable this time around.

[pistolpete]

Wide players are a dying breed.

Im disappointed we didnt at least show an interest in Malouda as i think Chelsea got him at a good price.
Babel could have played wide but not sure why we didnt go for him, i think he would have been like Henry, starting wide, then playing as a forward.

I think we should go for Drenthe of Feyenord, left sided midfielder or defender, i was impressed with him in the u21 championships, could turn out t be a top class player.

[Jonny2J]

Probably exactly the same as The Sun article mind.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/6896955.stm

Cesc Fabregas has revealed he has turned down a move to Real Madrid and pledged his future to Arsenal.

The 20-year-old Spain midfield man has been linked with a return to his native country after Thierry Henry left Arsenal for Barcelona.

He said: "I'm very grateful to Real and it is an honour that such a great club is interested in me.

"But after the departure of Thierry Henry to Barcelona I couldn't leave Arsenal in the lurch."

Fabregas revealed he has spoken to the Real hierarchy, but was persuaded to stay at Arsenal by manager Arsene Wenger.

He said: "I spoke to Real's president Ramon Calderon and sport director Predrag Mijatovic and they are spectacular people.

"It was very satisfying to listen to them as Real Madrid is a great club but I have decided to stay at Arsenal.

"I had a long talk with Wenger. He is someone I can talk to about anything."

And he hinted that he believes Wenger will stay at Arsenal after his contract expires at the end of next season.

Fabregas said: "I have total confidence in the boss that he will sign a new deal.

"Wenger believes in this team and has a lot of confidence in the squad.

"I am only 20 and all I have to do is enjoy my football and improve - and I want to do that with this team. I will try to win titles with Arsenal and give my all to Arsene Wenger.

"I will always be grateful to him for giving me my chance."

Now Fabregas is hoping Arsenal continue to spend this summer to help make up for the loss of Henry, and he believes the striker's new Barcelona team-mate Samuel Eto'o would be the perfect replacement. "I would try to sign Eto'o - he would be the ideal replacement for Henry.

"I know it's difficult, maybe impossible, but it would be the perfect solution." Nice to see Madrid up to their old tricks again and nothing being done about it.

[Gooner10]

"Fabregas admitted to Wenger he was stricken by the same doubts over the boss’ future which forced Henry to quit.

And the Spanish star fully expected the Gunners to make a move for Barca’s Samuel Eto’o.

He added: “I would try to sign Eto’o — he would be the ideal replacement for Henry. I know it’s difficult, maybe impossible, but it would be the perfect solution.”"

Yea, dream on Cesc...

[Viperized]

Everyone at Arsenal should say 'Eto'o should join Arsenal'.

Most of the Barcelona players publicly stated they would relish the chance playing with Thierry Henry, so our players should say the same about Eto'o.

(:

[Nturtle]

LOL re Cesc...ah well...I'm sure he means well...let's not read into it too much.

The Onlinegunner says we might sign Modric..

http://www.onlinegooner.com/exclusive/index.php?id=357

Interesting...he's a bit like Rosicky! Not sure if that is what we need! Shooting and scoring when the defense gives you so much room is not exactly too hard...but maybe I am discrediting the Croatian league there...we'll see!

[QuaffleMe]

Modric doesn't seem to be the kind of player that Arsenal needs considering that we are already strong enough in the center midfield department.

I have to agree that we need a different dimension in our attacks instead of only passing the ball around the box. The additional of Da Silva Ecuador will strengthen our threat in the air. A winger with pace can offer us crosses down the wing and penetration which we lack at the moment. Not to mention more crosses from the wing will also compliment Ecaudor's ability in the air.

[Calzone]

Tell Wenger to get Downing from Boro. :ninja:

[Zoolander]

Who's Da Silva Ecuador? He sounds good.

[-Rafa-]

Who's Da Silva Ecuador? He sounds good.
:laugh:

[JoeyM]

http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=476669&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Fabregas+wins+plaudits+f rom+Supporters+Clubs

The China Arsenal Supporters Club voted Adebayor as their player of the season:erm:
Pretty much every other club (including the Scottish Arsenal Supporters Club, Dodgy Mustache Supporters Club, and the Russian Mafia Arsenal Supporters Club) chose Cesc.

[Wan]

It's Eduardo not Ecuador..
:lol:

Adebayor?
No way!

[Barry]

I think they took one picture of Cesc and then photoshopped all the others. He's got the same pose and smile all of the pictures!

[Scarface]

The Onlinegunner says we might sign Modric..

http://www.onlinegooner.com/exclusive/index.php?id=357

Interesting...he's a bit like Rosicky! Not sure if that is what we need! Shooting and scoring when the defense gives you so much room is not exactly too hard...but maybe I am discrediting the Croatian league there...we'll see!

We already have enough creativity, but he has a good strike on him, is a capable goalscorer, and would provide strong competition all across midfield. If it is true that we've agreed a deal for him to go through in January, I think that may suggest a possible change of formation, something similar to which Dinamo Zagreb use and what we implemented in the Champions League when we reached the final.

-----------------------Lehmann-----------------------
------------------------------------------------------
------------------Toure-------Gallas------------------
----Eboue/Sagna----------------------------Clichy----
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-----------------Gilberto------------------------------
-----------------------------Fabregas-----------------
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---------Van Persie----Rosicky------Modric/Hleb-------
------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------Eduardo-----------------------

[Gooner10]

That formation doesn't sound too bad! maybe then Rosicky can get some shots in

And is that not the position van Persie plays in for Holland? I think!?

[Barry]

We play with actual wingers than 3 AMF's, but it's close. Although not entirely true, we've been known to stick Kuyt and Van Der Vaart on the wing and they aren't wingers :unsure:

[JoeyM]

Considering at this time RVP is our biggest recognized goal threat, any formation that puts him further away from goal is a no for me.

[Jonny2J]

Really looking forward to seeing Eduardo every week.

The art of just being a goal scorer is dying out and I for one look forward to seeing one of a dying breed. :)

[Dragonfly]

RVP cutting in on his left foot isn't a bad idea, but it could end up being predictable, although he does have the dribbling ability to make shooting space. I think if we did have 3 AMF behind Eduardo, they be moving around all over the place, making room for a through ball. It could work.

[Nturtle]

Good thoughts guys. Well...it's a bit like Henry playing on the left and cutting right...as long as it's done well...it should be alright!

Interesting to see we won at Barnet. Well...I'm thinking that Wenger might give Randall or Barzarite a chance on the wing sometime soon...just so that we see some young players coming though...ha! Who knows?

Yeah..I'm waiting to see Eduardo in action as well...with service from Cesc etc...it should be perfect for him!

[Wan]

and RVP of course..

[Wan]

Wenger refuses to discuss future

Arsene Wenger continues to keep his cards very close to his chest regarding his future at Arsenal, but insists he will discuss the issue "at the right moment".

Wenger has a year remaining on his current contract and following the departure of Thierry Henry and other uncertainty at the club there is doubt whether the Frenchman will enter into another deal with the Gunners.

Following a 2-0 friendly win against local side Barnet, Wenger told Sky Sports News: "I have shown my commitment in the past."

He added: "I will come out at the right moment... maybe when you don't ask me the question."

One person whose future is no longer in question is Spanish midfielder Cesc Fabregas, who has again rejected Real Madrid's advances, and Wenger can not see the player ever leaving the club.

"I think Cesc has shown many times that he is committed to the club and Cesc in my mind will never leave," said Wenger.

"He has six or seven years of contract left and we have lost Thierry Henry. We want to keep things as stable as possible."

[Viperized]

Considering at this time RVP is our biggest recognized goal threat, any formation that puts him further away from goal is a no for me.
I completely agree.

We should just stick to a 442 with a Van Persie/Eduardo partnership.

Although Liverpool have held some interest in Mancini, I would love us to sign him. He would be perfect for us.

[RB14 ARSENAL]

Agreed.........

If liverpool do sign him .. why don't we try and sign juan roman riquelme... he's been in good form at the copa america and would be perfect as an AMF in a 4-3-2-1 formation!!!

Wouldn't he rather go to arsenal than everton!!!!!

[Gooner10]

Wonder what the fans thought of our first outing in the new white/redcurrant kit

[Viperized]

We don't need another central attacking player and Riquelme would be the last attacking midfielder that I'd ever consider.

He is a very good player but I highly doubt he would succeed in the Premiership.

[Scarface]

Agreed.........

If liverpool do sign him .. why don't we try and sign juan roman riquelme... he's been in good form at the copa america and would be perfect as an AMF in a 4-3-2-1 formation!!!

Wouldn't he rather go to arsenal than everton!!!!!

Despite being a fantastic player, he would slow down our play considerably, so would be a poor signing.

Wenger refuses to discuss future

He will sign a new contract, no doubt in my mind at all. It's almost his way of saying 'I will sign a new deal, but when the timing is most appropriate.' i.e. when it will be most beneficial to the team.

[Dragonfly]

I'm more sceptical, I'm sad to say James. I think this is Arsene's last season with us.

[wrathchild_uk]

Riquelme is supposed to be close to joining Atletico anyway aint he?? plus i doubt he'd suite the prem...he'd prob just be another Veron!

[Dundon's]

Taken from the news of the world.


THIERRY HENRY has walked out on his wife and two-year-old daughter, the News of the World can reveal.

The superstar footballer left devastated missus Claire after four years of marriage.

It explains why Henry was pictured in Paris last week, alone and not wearing his wedding ring.

The split came after he and 27-year-old Claire rowed over text messages and pictures on his mobile phone.

She and the former Arsenal skipper, who completed a £16million move to Barcelona on June 25, had a furious bust-up which led to Henry leaving.

A friend of the couple said: "Claire is devastated. It was almost as if Thierry wanted it to happen.

"He blatantly left his phone lying around the house and one day Claire picked it up out of curiosity.

"She started flicking through his text messages.

"There were also some pictures on the phone.


PICS: STUNNING IMAGES OF NICOLE

"As soon as Thierry came in Claire spoke to him and they had a full-scale row.

"Thierry told Claire that he was leaving and appeared to have a couldn't-care-less attitude. He just walked out and that was that."

Frightened

The friend said Henry—who starred with Claire in the famous Va Va Voom Renault car telly ads—marched out of their mansion in posh Hampstead, north London, two weeks ago and has not returned since.

The pal added: "He has not been back to see Claire or their daughter Tea since.

"He did call her three days after leaving and asked her if she was okay. Well how could she be okay? Of course she wasn't. He has not called her or seen her since.

"He has not been acting at all like his saintly image. Claire may have no choice but to consult solicitors about a divorce. She knows Thierry has been going out and that people have noticed he has removed his wedding ring."

Henry, 29, is spending most of his time in Barcelona, where he is earning £128,000 a week.

The friend added: "Claire dared not leave the house for the first two weeks because she was so upset and was hoping that Thierry would come back."

Glum

The friend also revealed the state of the marriage was one of the reasons the Arsenal legend decided to leave the club.

The pal explained: "It is definitely part of the reason Thierry is going to Barcelona. It is not all about football.

"The fact his marriage has gone Va Va Boom played a part in his decision to leave London." Friends noticed that Henry no longer seemed happy in his wife's company at the French Open tennis championship last month.

The pair arrived together at the Roland Garros stadium in Paris and, although Claire seemed happy, her husband looked bored and glum.

It was one of the last occasions the couple were seen in public together.

A few days after their split Henry travelled to Paris for the wedding of Desperate Housewives actress Eva Longoria and multi-millionaire basketball player Tony Parker.

Henry had travelled alone and was not wearing his wedding band for the star-studded bash at the city's ultra-plush Park Hyatt hotel.

The French striker was already secretly dating Claire—then known under her model name Nicole Merry—when he requested she be given the role as his co-star in the Va Va Voom telly ads for the Renault Clio.

The couple soon became inseparable, and married in July 2003 in a £40,000 bash at Highclere Castle, Berks. The bride walked down a 100-metre aisle festooned with white lilies in front of 200 guests.

The break-up of the marriage is the first real low point in what has been an idyllic life since Henry arrived at Arsenal in August 1999.

Henry, who rose from a childhood in a tough Paris suburb to become part of the French World Cup winning squad the previous year, was languishing as an underrated winger at Juventus when Arsenal coach Arsene Wenger bought him.

Gentleman

The star has taken pains to develope an image as a gentleman player who has not used his fame to cash in as a ladies' man.

At the time of his signing he told how he missed his then girlfriend Sabrina, who continued to live in Monaco with the couple's cats. He went on to date pop singer Jae Jefferson before splitting with her in 2000 and enjoyed a brief fling with stunning nightclub hostess Alexandra Slater.

Claire's friend added: "She just cannot believe that Thierry could just throw away four years of marriage like that. Their little girl is only two years old and has no idea what is going on or where her papa is.

"Claire is doing her best to cope but she is really struggling at the moment."

Source (http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/story_pages/news/news2.shtml)


Dunno what to make of it, or him.

[Dragonfly]

Taken from the news of the world.




Source (http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/story_pages/news/news2.shtml)


Dunno what to make of it, or him.

What exactly did he do? Did he cheat on her or something, or stopped loving her?

[Viperized]

What exactly did he do? Did he cheat on her or something, or stopped loving her?
Stopped loving her from what it seems like.

Why did she change her name from Nicole to Claire anyway? :\

[Dundon's]

I don't know what's going on there, just said I'd throw it up, see what you made of it.

[Jonny2J]

Stopped loving her from what it seems like.

Why did she change her name from Nicole to Claire anyway? :\Probably sick of the countless puns due to the Renault advertisements of the past.

[Stella Artois]

One was probably her modelling name. Don't know nor care to be fair.

[Miggy]

Yeah, Stella is right.

Plenty of lovely Spanish women for him to take his pick from.

[vanNistelrooy]

Should have changed her name to Clio ;)

[nikos24]

I don't know what's going on there, just said I'd throw it up, see what you made of it.

What's going on with him?

He should learn from Trezeguet. Hopefully he didn't walk out on their friendship too.

[Dundon's]

What do you mean Nikos, I didn't hear anyt