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Good idea.
And I'll vote for no.
Stella Artois
24-11-2007, 12:46
Hopefully he doesn't.
By Richard Clarke
Arsène Wenger has been impressed with Tresor Mputu during his trial at Arsenal.
The 20-year-old striker has a growing reputation in Africa. He was the top scorer in the Continent’s Champions League as his club, TP Mazembe, reached the last 16. Mputu hit two hat-tricks and amassed an incredible nine goals in his first four games. He also has five goals in 10 appearances for DR Congo.
No decision has been made on Mputu but, when he spoke to Arsenal.com on Thursday, the Arsenal manager seemed suitably interested.
“He is on trial and I have to go down to test him today,” said Wenger. “He is a creative player and wants a chance in Europe. He has impressed so far.”
Being able to find talent > having to spend £19m on Anderson
mufcsean
24-11-2007, 12:48
9 goals in 4 games, jesus christ, i really hate Wenger at times
Actually it's 9 goals in 4 apps isn't it?
Viperized
24-11-2007, 14:18
"Mputu hit two hat-tricks and amassed an incredible nine goals in his first four games."
Isn't appearances the same as games that he played?
Guillermo
24-11-2007, 15:19
Isn't appearances the same as games that he played?
Yes, so why correct him? Actually, don't answer that.
Viperized
24-11-2007, 15:30
Isn't appearances the same as games that he played?
I swear you said 'isn't it 5 goals in 10 games'.
:|
Actually it's 9 goals in 4 apps isn't it?
:erm: You might need to read it again.
Stella Artois
24-11-2007, 16:17
Come on you useless cunts. God I sound like Viperized now.
Anyone watching the game? I can't unfortunately as P2P is banned.
It's on TVE 2 over here (BBC 2, Spain style) You guys are in total control but just haven't really made any chances. You're really missing both Cesc and Hleb the connection between midfield and strikers is pretty shit really.
Has draw written over it unless you step it up a gear.
Lassana Diarra's head scares me.
Stella Artois
24-11-2007, 16:24
Apparently Gallas has a mohawk going on. :mellow:
That description is reminiscent of us last year.
vanNistelrooy
24-11-2007, 16:24
Come off it, this is Arsenal.
2-0.
mufcsean
24-11-2007, 16:25
Yeah i can see a goal in the 81st and 86th minute, Adebayor for both
Yeah Gallas has a Mr T mohawk going on.
Zoolander
24-11-2007, 16:31
"I ain't playing on the left. You crazy foo!"
"I ain't playing on the left. You crazy foo!"
He just wanted a piece of Heskey.
Viperized
24-11-2007, 16:38
Come on you useless cunts. God I sound like Viperized now.
Anyone watching the game? I can't unfortunately as P2P is banned.
Yes I'm watching the game.
We've had a few chances but our players are being selfish at the wrong times.
edit: Walcott is down. looks injured.
http://www.straightupsearch.com/archives/mr_t_blue.jpg
mufcsean
24-11-2007, 16:45
MR T has scored
Guillermo
24-11-2007, 16:45
Dammit. :(
mufcsean
24-11-2007, 16:46
2-0 :shocking:
Zoolander
24-11-2007, 16:46
3 points clear!
You've got it wrapped up. Nice finish by Rosicky.
Stella Artois
24-11-2007, 16:48
Having two centre-backs who also happen to be brilliant on the ball fucking rocks.
Gallas and Toure > Rio and Vidic
Viperized
24-11-2007, 16:48
3 points clear!
Bolton 1-0 Man Utd FT?
Zoolander
24-11-2007, 16:51
Bolton 1-0 Man Utd FT?
Almost. Pressing a lot but nothing.
Having two centre-backs who also happen to be brilliant on the ball fucking rocks.
Gallas and Toure > Rio and Vidic
If you say so. Lets see how well you do when Toure goes off for the African Nations Cup.
vanNistelrooy
24-11-2007, 16:58
Having two centre-backs who also happen to be brilliant on the ball fucking rocks.
Gallas and Toure > Rio and Vidic
If that was aimed at our result today, Vidic didn't play today.
Although I do agree with you.
Stella Artois
24-11-2007, 17:00
If you say so. Lets see how well you do when Toure goes off for the African Nations Cup.
The league table also says so.
Don't worry, at this rate we'll be so far ahead we can afford to lose every game Toure misses.
It wasn't Bryan. It was just a general comment.
vanNistelrooy
24-11-2007, 17:01
Is it only Toure you'll be missing? I thought half your team was African?
Stella Artois
24-11-2007, 17:02
Toure and Eboue, that's it.
So weep now motherfuckers.
vanNistelrooy
24-11-2007, 17:05
Will Senderos be in to replace Toure? God I hope so.
Stella Artois
24-11-2007, 17:07
Hopefully Djourou will.
Fucking hell, I've completely forgotten how to spell his name.
Told you it sucks.
calculus
24-11-2007, 17:11
We've been magnificent so far this season, we had some players out and we were still able to maximize the advantage of Utd losing :)
Meyyappan
24-11-2007, 17:50
Arsenal midfielder Gilberto Silva claims he would welcome a January transfer to Juventus.
The Brazilian has struggled for first-team opportunities this season due to the form of Mathieu Flamini alongside Cesc Fabregas.
It has led to suggestions that Arsene Wenger could offload Gilberto in the New Year, particularly with the likes of Abou Diaby and Lassana Diarra also waiting in the wings.
And the 31-year-old concedes that, if Juventus open talks with the Premier League leaders, he would consider a move to Italy.
Prestigious
"Juve officials must know that I don't want to have a war with Arsenal," Gilberto told Gazzetta dello Sport.
"If they want me, they must talk with my club and get into serious negotiations.
"I feel disposed towards moving to Italy. I like Serie A, despite the recent events.
"Juventus are a prestigious club. They have overcome the problems that forced them to come back from Serie B."
Gilberto has also been linked with Internazionale, but the player is unaware of any interest from the Serie A champions.
He added: "Sincerely, I know nothing about I know nothing about Inter."
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11854_2917215,00.html
Oh this is getting bad
Stella Artois
24-11-2007, 17:52
Why?
We have Diarra, Denilson, Diaby, Cesc and Flamini.
Can't hoarde every CM in the world!
So different to have a real captain for a change. Someone who isn't about being a diplomat and a gentleman to the opponents. Gallas came out to defend Denilson, and scored the crucial goal - as he did against ManU.
He hates losing and that's the ingredient that we were missing last year.
Meyyappan
24-11-2007, 18:05
Why?
We have Diarra, Denilson, Diaby, Cesc and Flamini.
Can't hoarde every CM in the world!
EXPERIENCE in the latter stages of cl and pl,the guy should stay atleast until the end of the season and hes worldclass also a great servent
Just saw something interesting that surprised me. Arsenal have alot of away games coming up. I think they will get a couple of losses. The game against Aston Villa should be entertaining to watch because Villa are pretty good at home.
mufcsean
24-11-2007, 23:46
I must say the Villa Arsenal game does look like a good en
Phil W.A.F.C
25-11-2007, 18:33
Tomas Rosicky what a w*n*e* i actually hate arsenal with a passion you may have won 2-0 y'day but u played shit ;)
Stella Artois
25-11-2007, 18:34
It's hard to play well against a team who don't want to show any attacking intent at all.
Phil W.A.F.C
25-11-2007, 18:36
It's hard to play well against a team who don't want to show any attacking intent at all.
erm did u actually go to the game? to me it seems as though u didn't
Meyyappan
25-11-2007, 18:38
It's hard to play well against a team who don't want to show any attacking intent at all.
Ha,well said stella
Phil W.A.F.C
25-11-2007, 18:42
why do they even play legs 11? hes shite he won nothing in the air but not many striker do against owd titus bramble :D
Stella Artois
25-11-2007, 18:50
I didn't and I didn't get to see much of the game either, but unless all the reports I've read have lied, I'm fairly sure you could say that we absolutely dominated you from start to finish.
Phil W.A.F.C
25-11-2007, 18:59
I didn't and I didn't get to see much of the game either, but unless all the reports I've read have lied, I'm fairly sure you could say that we absolutely dominated you from start to finish.
oh well they must have been watching a diffrent game that i went to eh
Stella Artois
25-11-2007, 19:01
Arsenal Team Statistics Wigan Athletic
2 Goals 0
0 1st Half Goals 0
3 Shots on Target 1
8 Shots off Target 6
5 Blocked Shots 2
6 Corners 4
9 Fouls 17
6 Offsides 3
1 Yellow Cards 4
0 Red Cards 0
85.4 Passing Success 72.6
17 Tackles 33
76.5 Tackles Success 78.8
67.9 Possession 32.1
57.1 Territorial Advantage 42.9
In every single deparment that counts, we were better.
Phil W.A.F.C
25-11-2007, 19:05
u missed one out injuries
arsenal 1-0 wigan athletic
theo walcott was injured n hopefully its serious ;)
Dragonfly
25-11-2007, 19:13
That's a beautiful passing success percentage.
pistolpete
25-11-2007, 20:10
u missed one out injuries
arsenal 1-0 wigan athletic
theo walcott was injured n hopefully its serious ;)
Cock.
Im happy with the result yesterday, i would have taken 1-0, just need to make sure of 3 points against teams that come for a point.
Especially pleased that it was a goal from a cross, shows we can vary it, graet cross by Sagna by the way.
Starting to get some real captains performances from Gallas.
I only saw MOTD but Diarra looked good.
Phil W.A.F.C
25-11-2007, 20:15
Cock.
Im happy with the result yesterday, i would have taken 1-0, just need to make sure of 3 points against teams that come for a point.
Especially pleased that it was a goal from a cross, shows we can vary it, graet cross by Sagna by the way.
Starting to get some real captains performances from Gallas.
I only saw MOTD but Diarra looked good.
yeah i admit u was the better team and theres nowt new with wigan. the bent goal i couldnt see from were i was sat if he was offside but i few people said he wasnt. only january will tell see wot brucey buys and how much tight arse whelen gives him :(
pistolpete
25-11-2007, 20:22
Brucie likes to go shopping in the Arsenal junior section so you might see some of out young young lads.
Phil W.A.F.C
25-11-2007, 20:27
Brucie likes to go shopping in the Arsenal junior section so you might see some of out young young lads.
i would defo have that alexandre song hes looks decent and when he went on load at charlton last season he looked good, maybe just maybe he may make an audacious bid to get bendtner again i hope so anyways :D
Tigermen
25-11-2007, 22:37
Phil you're a cock and I hope the Liverpool fans ignore your oh so witty comment in the Liverpool thread so you don't get the oxygen of attention that you clearly crave, you sad sad person.
Walcott's injury isn't serious, so he'll be back building his career at one of the best teams in Europe very shortly, whereas Heskey will still remain a fat cunt lumbering around for a team who can only be described as 'rancid gash'. So you can't even claim that victory now.
I must say...Sagna is turning out to be brilliant...even though he was pretty good in the French league last year as well. His defensive cover is great...and at the latter stages...he was even on the left wing going forward if I'm not mistaken!!! Quiet, effective, determined (Cesc's goal after hooking the ball back from the touchline in one of the recent games), GREAT crosses (Gallas in this case) - all really solid. I wish Clichy could start crossing like that...
Stella Artois
26-11-2007, 09:52
Clichy is different though in that he drives at the opposition. He's won a fair few penalties that way too.
COLE NOT DAUNTED BY GUNNERS TRIP
Ashley Cole believes the derision meted out to England's players over the weekend will be child's play compared to the venom he is certain to face at Arsenal next month.
Cole returned to the Chelsea side for Saturday's 2-0 win at Derby after six weeks on the sidelines with an ankle injury.
As part of the England squad throughout the course of the European Championship qualifying campaign, Cole was occasionally jeered at Pride Park.
Instead, it was team-mates Frank Lampard, John Terry and Shaun Wright-Phillips who were subjected to considerable abuse as their every touch of the ball was greeted with boos.
Left-back Cole, though, knows that will pale into insignificance on December 16 when he faces former club Arsenal at the Emirates Stadium.
Following his highly-contentious move from the Gunners to Chelsea at the end of August last year, Cole missed May's trip to north London due to an ankle injury.
On this occasion he is determined to confront his demons, knowing a cauldron of hate awaits should he be fit and selected.
"Compared to what happened to the England guys, I am sure I will get much worse when I go back to Arsenal," Cole said.
"But I am used to it, and I am looking forward to the game. I want to go there and play them because I did not get to play there earlier this year.
"I will go there and front up. I am a grown man. They (the Arsenal fans) threw money at me at Stamford Bridge, and that was bad, but I get that every game. I love it.
"To be honest, I am really not bothered about the reception I will get, even though I know the crowd will get on my back."
With Cole conceding "it would be nice to go there and shut some people up," that will only further enrage the Gunners fans.
"I don't think I have anything to prove to them," added Cole.
"They know how good I was when I was with them and what I did for the club. It is not about that.
"Of course Arsenal still means something to me. I don't hate the club or the players.
"I love the club, but it has finished for me there now. I need to look at myself and Chelsea and do as well as I can and win as many things as I can here."
Despite the five-point gap to current leaders Arsenal, who also have a game in hand, Cole insists the Blues can again become champions this season.
"Arsenal are the team to beat in the Premier League at the moment and hopefully it could be us that does it," said Cole.
"But we have to be closer to them before we play them. We need to win all our games before then.
"If we can do that and beat Arsenal as well, we are right back in the title race and anything can happen.
"This is a crucial period for us now, especially with Manchester United dropping points. It is still possible we can win the league."
He truly has no idea how bad it'll be. There were probably 3,000 at Chelsea. There'll be 56,000 at our ground all wanting that cunt to snap his cruciate.
Clichy > Cole
God I hope I get a ticket.
Phil W.A.F.C
26-11-2007, 16:11
Phil you're a cock and I hope the Liverpool fans ignore your oh so witty comment in the Liverpool thread so you don't get the oxygen of attention that you clearly crave, you sad sad person.
Walcott's injury isn't serious, so he'll be back building his career at one of the best teams in Europe very shortly, whereas Heskey will still remain a fat cunt lumbering around for a team who can only be described as 'rancid gash'. So you can't even claim that victory now.
what the comment about 'murderers' :D i love it hehe.
it aint that when that 'fat cunt lumbering around for a team' Emile Heskey is playing for this excuse of a nation showing he his one of the best strikers England have because Peter Slouch is absolute wank, you all cheer him then ;) you clearly no bery little about football
Adammce05
26-11-2007, 16:38
bery little aye ?
Mate, again, you support Wigan, you know nothing.
Hardly one of the best, even in his best days Heskey wasnt fucking much, and if I remebmer correctly, Crouch was the only one with any sign of game in him on Wednesday, did he not score actually ? Yeah, funny thing is Heskey dosent even make the game he's that shite.
Funny enough your fabled Heskey is a past it loser, what a great sensation for your team....
Phil W.A.F.C
26-11-2007, 16:43
again your from glasgow so start supportin some kilt wearin teams mate also heskey had a broken metetarsel so would have been very painfull for him and i dont blame him for not playin for that bag of shit England so butnit u jock
Adammce05
26-11-2007, 16:51
Jog on ya clown.
For a start a support Celtic, the 'kilt wearin' teams as you so intelligently put it, nice generalisation you bastard. Funny thing is that Celtic and Rangers would run riot against your pub team, and dont even try and deny that.
Your a below par out of your depth Championship bound mob of clowns, and always will be. You bring nothing to the table.
And oh he had a broken metatarsel ? Hundreds of players have had them, still came back good, fuck Henrik broke his leg came back even better, your Heskey was always shit, dont try and make excuses.
Zoolander
26-11-2007, 16:54
Making friends I see....
Phil W.A.F.C
26-11-2007, 16:54
hehehe people are easy to wind um :D
also heskey only returned this week so playin for england or even proving himself inside 20 mins is a bit hard against one of the best teams in europe and playin around shit players
Adammce05
26-11-2007, 16:57
Heksey is shit too lol why cant you grasp this ?.
Granted you were against some of the best, but Heskey is a joke, previous to this injury, and many can back me up on this, he's a washed up farce, and when he played for England before he was nonse, think it was the Israel game earlier this year.
Stop trying to defend him because you know he is crap too.
Phil W.A.F.C
26-11-2007, 16:59
if he was that bad he would be playin on the SPL with the has beens/no good players
Adammce05
26-11-2007, 17:00
Mate could your rabble do anywhere near as good as Celtic/Rangers ?.
Thought not.
SPL might be poor overall, but Celtic and Rangers are good outfits.
Phil W.A.F.C
26-11-2007, 17:03
not at the moment no but soon to be with good old steve bruce also even wigan could perform against the teams in the SPL so dont go bloating about Rangers/Celtic
Meyyappan
26-11-2007, 18:03
Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has been charged with using abusive and insulting words towards an official by the FA.
The charge follows the exchange with referee Mark Clattenburg during Saturday's 1-0 defeat to Bolton.
Ferguson was sent to the stands by Clattenburg following his half-time rant during United's 1-0 defeat at the Reebok, when the Scot told the official "exactly what I thought of him".
Clattenburg included his version of the incident in his report of the game, which was examined by Soho Square disciplinary chiefs on Monday.
Aggressive
Ferguson was upset that Clattenburg failed to protect his players against what he claimed were "aggressive" tactics from Gary Megson's side, with Kevin Davies in particular irritating the Scot for his running duel with full-back Patrice Evra.
"Some referees don't like the truth," added Ferguson after the game.
The Scot must have expected the FA disciplinary chiefs were likely to take action once they examined Clattenburg's version of events and he now has until 11th December to respond.
However, while his assessment of the situation was more measured on Monday afternoon, Ferguson was still clearly annoyed.
Aggrieved
"You can expect a team in Bolton's position to play that way," he said.
"You expect a team near the bottom to battle, scrap and fight.
"Obviously they do not have the quality of opponents like ourselves. That is why they we are in different positions in the league.
"But the key thing is how the referee controls it. He is the arbiter in terms of the application of the rules of football. That is where we feel a bit aggrieved."http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_2923302,00.html
Time they did something against him
martin_cranie
26-11-2007, 18:30
Adammce05 and Phil W.A.F.C, keep matters unrelated to Arsenal FC out of this thread. The worth of Emile Heskey can be discussed in the Wigan Athletic thread.
Adammce05
26-11-2007, 18:39
Righto. Apoligies.
So big Ferguson is getting the book flung at him ? Good. The bastard.
What do you all make of Ashley Cole's remarks then ?
Rossy Boy
26-11-2007, 18:49
Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has been charged with using abusive and insulting words towards an official by the FA.
The charge follows the exchange with referee Mark Clattenburg during Saturday's 1-0 defeat to Bolton.
Ferguson was sent to the stands by Clattenburg following his half-time rant during United's 1-0 defeat at the Reebok, when the Scot told the official "exactly what I thought of him".
Clattenburg included his version of the incident in his report of the game, which was examined by Soho Square disciplinary chiefs on Monday.
Aggressive
Ferguson was upset that Clattenburg failed to protect his players against what he claimed were "aggressive" tactics from Gary Megson's side, with Kevin Davies in particular irritating the Scot for his running duel with full-back Patrice Evra.
"Some referees don't like the truth," added Ferguson after the game.
The Scot must have expected the FA disciplinary chiefs were likely to take action once they examined Clattenburg's version of events and he now has until 11th December to respond.
However, while his assessment of the situation was more measured on Monday afternoon, Ferguson was still clearly annoyed.
Aggrieved
"You can expect a team in Bolton's position to play that way," he said.
"You expect a team near the bottom to battle, scrap and fight.
"Obviously they do not have the quality of opponents like ourselves. That is why they we are in different positions in the league.
"But the key thing is how the referee controls it. He is the arbiter in terms of the application of the rules of football. That is where we feel a bit aggrieved."http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_2923302,00.html
Time they did something against him
Whats that got to with arsenal :erm:
mufcsean
27-11-2007, 00:59
Was Cesc injured or banned for the Wigan game, just wondering for the Champions League game as i fancy him for first goal scorer
Dragonfly
27-11-2007, 01:00
Suspended.
Here's the squad going to Seville, and Bendtner will definitely start:
1. Jens Lehmann
3. Bacary Sagna
4. Cesc Fabregas
5. Kolo Toure
6. Philippe Senderos
7. Tomas Rosicky
8. Lassana Diarra
9. Eduardo
15. Denilson
16. Mathieu Flamini
17. Alex Song
19. Gilberto
24. Manuel Almunia
26. Nicklas Bendtner
27. Emmanuel Eboue
30. Armand Traore
31. Justin Hoyte
32. Theo Walcott
mufcsean
27-11-2007, 01:09
Will Bendtner replace Walcott then partnering Adebayor?
Dragonfly
27-11-2007, 01:11
Adebayour and Gallas will be rested, so it could be a Bendtner-Walcott partnership.
Meyyappan
27-11-2007, 13:35
I havent seen nani play much guys is he better than our rosicky or will he become better than giggs
spoonzwba
27-11-2007, 14:26
I really think arsenal have a chance this year. The way they play really is astonishing, And i love there 'never say die attitude' :D
I havent seen nani play much guys is he better than our rosicky or will he become better than giggs
He has talent obviously, but Rosicky is better, at least for now, and it's very hard to say if he'll ever approach the level that Giggs had/has.
somegooner
27-11-2007, 20:10
We have taken the lead aggainst Sevilla!! Eduardo!! C'mon Eddy do it 2 more times now!!
Sorry - just a bit over excited.
EDIT - Sevilla eqaulized.
Rossy Boy
27-11-2007, 20:10
:realmad: Senderos
somegooner
27-11-2007, 20:16
I'm not watching the game I'm just cheking the updates. I don't have CL matches on TV in my house. It's him again?? I heard that it was Giberto. Btw who is the captain??
Rossy Boy
27-11-2007, 20:24
Diving cunts :realmad:
most likely Toure
somegooner
27-11-2007, 20:25
Who is at fault this time??
EDIT: Don't bother answering that, it's past midnight in Dubai and I'm going to bed.
Rossy Boy
27-11-2007, 20:27
No ones they dived and got a free kick
Zoolander
27-11-2007, 21:47
Senderos looked solid tonight.
Viperized
27-11-2007, 21:47
So we lost 3-1 to Sevilla.
We didn't deserve to win based on that performance. It just went good from bad and was going downhill. Too many sloppy passes, too many times we gave the ball away and we lacked a cutting edge in attack. Bendtner was brilliant though. But as usual Senderos played a part in conceding a goal.
Rossy Boy
27-11-2007, 21:59
And we have to have to put up with senderos whilst toure is at the africans cup :(
AgentZero
27-11-2007, 22:03
well i dont think you lot will slip up at the league. Its good to get the bad games out of the way now.
Hopefully this will further convince Arsene that Senderos isn't even close to being good enough.
Ah well...at least we lost in a less important match...League performance is critical, Champs league we are in...let's see what happens on the last leg...we could still top the group if Sevilla don't win and we do (at home).
Good experience for the squad boys...Senderos was butt ugly....rusty, and led to first goal from a mis-kick, did silly things like pick up the ball when it was still in play, and wasn't very solid throughout. Didn't help we had less defensive players like Hoyte and Traore playing...but damn good experince for them.
somegooner
28-11-2007, 06:47
Senderos should be burned.
Stella Artois
28-11-2007, 11:32
The only positive I can take from last night is that in years to come Nicklas Bendtner is going to be absolutely fucking awesome.
Edit: If Ranieri was watching last night, he wouldn't offer 7p for Gilberto, let alone £7m.
Get Flamini back, please!
pistolpete
28-11-2007, 12:43
Have to agree with the comments so far, Gilberto looked very clumsy and Senderos has fitted straight back in where he left off.
Personally i think Diarra should have played instead of Gilberto who has hardly played all season.
Apparently Cesc did his hamstring - anyone know how bad it is? AW said last night they will know more in the morning.
mufcsean
28-11-2007, 13:36
Senderos was awful, who do you have at weekend
Stella Artois
28-11-2007, 13:40
Villa away. We've got a bloody tough December.
Dragonfly
28-11-2007, 13:48
I hope Cesc is back for the run of away games.
When will Van Persie come back? Newcastle?
We have 6 away games this December and three at home (Bucharest, Chelsea and Spurs). :shocking:
Stella Artois
28-11-2007, 13:57
Van Persie could be back this weekend.
Viperized
28-11-2007, 14:47
I hope Van Persie is 100% fit if he plays this weekend. Would be very stupid to risk him.
I hope Djourou will be back from his loan this January who has a far better chance in filling in Toure's boots.
mufcsean
28-11-2007, 14:52
bloody hell some tough games for you lot coming up
Stella Artois
28-11-2007, 14:53
Once December is over though, it's a smooth path to the title. :cool:
mufcsean
28-11-2007, 14:56
:wave: yeah right, in all honesty i am glad we are challenging you for the title and more than Chelsea
Stella Artois
28-11-2007, 14:57
Don't worry when we come to Manchester you'll be the home team and it'll be interesting to see if you come at us and try to play, rather than sitting back with 7 men behind the ball and just breaking when we can't get through.
mufcsean
28-11-2007, 15:06
We went for it at the Emirates so i don't see why that would be any different
Stella Artois
28-11-2007, 15:14
Of course you did. :laugh:
Have to agree with the comments so far, Gilberto looked very clumsy and Senderos has fitted straight back in where he left off.
Personally i think Diarra should have played instead of Gilberto who has hardly played all season.
Apparently Cesc did his hamstring - anyone know how bad it is? AW said last night they will know more in the morning.
Slight injury strain to Cesc apparently...I agree...Diarra would have been more dynamic...but...I would have played him instead of Denilson instead maybe...Gilberto needed a game.
mufcsean
29-11-2007, 02:27
I wouldn't have left Denilson out after his performance at the weekend, easily one of your best players against Wigan
Meyyappan
29-11-2007, 05:21
Blackburn 0-4 Aston Villa
By Paul Fletcher
Gareth Barry (left) scores the decisive second from the penalty spot
Barry put Villa 2-0 ahead with a well-struck penalty
In-form Aston Villa won their fourth straight league fixture to move to sixth place in the Premier League.
Villa keeper Scott Carson made three good early saves before John Carew headed the visiting team ahead.
Gareth Barry scored from the penalty spot after Rovers skipper Ryan Nelsen harshly saw red for a tug on Gabriel Agbonlahor's shirt.
Ashley Young scored with a curling shot from 20 yards before Marlon Harewood's late volley from close range.
Villa boss Martin O'Neill has now named an unchanged side for the last four Premier League fixtures and must be delighted with his team's recent form.
It is the first time Villa have won four Premier League fixtures back-to-back for more than seven years - and the victory over a Rovers team with a strong home record must be the finest.
606: DEBATE
Give your reaction to Aston Villa's win over Blackburn
Rovers had won four and drawn one of their previous last five league and cup games at Ewood Park and created a clutch of chances in the opening period.
Carson, pilloried in the press after his disastrous showing for England last Wednesday, soon showed the kind of form sadly absent against Croatia.
He first denied David Dunn from 25 yards, tipping the ball out for a corner, then Nelsen from 20 yards before saving David Bentley's curling free-kick.
Roque Santa Cruz shot wide and later passed for Benni McCarthy to slot home only for a questionable offside flag to rule the goal out.
Having failed to capitalise on their impressive start, Rovers were punished when Carew struck - his glancing header from Young's free-kick leaving the advancing Brad Friedel stranded.
Villa threatened again before the break. Another Carew header, this time a flick-on from a long ball forward, played Agbonlahor through.
The Villa striker hooked the ball goalwards with his first touch but this time Friedel was equal to the task, blocking Agbonlahor's effort.
McCarthy might have restored parity within minutes of the restart but his crashing volley struck Wilfred Bouma on its way to goal.
And Villa scored the game's decisive second, doubling their advantage with the penalty that also resulted in the dismissal of Nelsen.
Nelsen did pull Agbonlahor's shirt but contact was minimal and the red card decision seemed unnecessary after referee Phil Dowd had already pointed to the penalty spot.
The excellent Barry, striking the ball low into the corner, eluded Friedel's dive.
Ten-man Rovers were left with 38 minutes to try to salvage something from the contest and pushed forward whenever possible.
But Villa eventually made their numerical advantage tell through Young, who superbly finished from 20 yards.
The chance appeared to have gone when Agbonlahor's pull-back initially failed to pick out a Villa player but the ball rolled all the way out to the winger, who closed in on goal before shooting.
Harewood scored his 100th league goal close to the final whistle after Friedel had parried Carew's initial strike.
The ball looped up and fell to the unmarked Harewood, who had plenty of time to compose himself before striking the fourth.
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Blackburn boss Mark Hughes:
"We have been beaten 4-0 but no way was there four goals between the teams.
"For the first 30 minutes we were totally in control of the game.
"The turning point was the penalty. It was a penalty but why the referee sent him off, you'll have to ask him that."
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Aston Villa boss Martin O'Neill:
"It has been a terrific effort in the last few weeks.
"I think the game was closer than the scoreline suggests but I think we defended very strongly and Gareth Barry is back to his very, very best.
"I was concerned about the game beforehand. That was our game in hand and we have won it."
Blackburn: Friedel, Ooijer, Samba, Nelsen, Warnock, Emerton, Mokoena (Reid 67), Dunn, Bentley (Pedersen 81), Santa Cruz, McCarthy (Roberts 67).
Subs Not Used: Brown, Savage.
Sent Off: Nelsen (52).
Aston Villa: Carson, Mellberg, Knight, Laursen, Bouma, Petrov (Gardner 82), Reo-Coker, Barry, Young, Carew, Agbonlahor (Harewood 85).
Subs Not Used: Taylor, Davies, Berger.
Booked: Mellberg.
Goals: Carew 29, Barry 53 pen, Young 81, Harewood 89.
Att: 20,776
Ref: Phil Dowd (Staffordshire).
Really they had to come in scintillating form just before playing us.
Bah, I was hoping Blackburn would go out and kick them to pieces before we played them, but oh well.
Meyyappan
29-11-2007, 11:58
Last Updated: Thursday, 29 November 2007, 10:35 GMT
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Wenger hit by Euro touchline ban
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger
Wenger has never been banned from the touchline before
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has been handed a touchline ban for his side's Champions League tie against Steaua Bucharest on 12 December.
The ban imposed by Uefa is a result of Wenger being sent to the stands after a row with the fourth match official as Arsenal lost 3-1 at Sevilla on Tuesday.
The offence carries an automatic one-match suspension and will also deny Wenger access to the dressing room.
A Uefa spokesman told BBC Sport the ban may be extended after an investigation.
It is the first time in his career that Wenger has received a touchline ban but the Frenchman will have three days to appeal, starting from the date he receives official notification.
606: DEBATE
Is Wenger's punishment just?
The incident came when Wenger seemed angered by apparent time-wasting by Sevilla's Jesus Navas and remonstrated with Dutch official Reinold Wiedemeijer, who asked the Gunners' boss to move from the side of the pitch.
Wenger appeared reluctant to completely leave the area and watched the final minutes of the match from behind perimeter advertising boards, rather than in the stands.
Arsenal need to beat Steaua in their final Group H match, and hope Sevilla do not beat Slavia Prague, to finish top of their group and earn a potentially easier knockout match in the next stage.
The Gunners' defeat in Sevilla was their first of the season and meant they missed the chance to claim top spot in their group.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7118602.stm
What shall we do if the ban is extended,seeing that affronting big dons in the last 16 which is looking likely .
In Arsene we trust! Added Arse, no -Arse I say. :D
Meyyappan
29-11-2007, 13:58
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Meyyappan
29-11-2007, 14:16
Cesc's out for 10 days its going to be a difficult december,guys.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_2928472,00.html
Meyyappan
29-11-2007, 16:16
Are England Tottenham in disguise?
Premier League Arsenal
by K Assiri 29 November 2007
comment on the article
Some of the similarities between the national team and the clowns at the Lane are uncanny
England's abject performance against Croatia last week bore a strong resemblance to the sort of performances Sp*rs have treated their Neanderthal supporters to on a weekly basis this season, especially at No Hart Lane. I decided to investigate both teams' respective performances on and off the field, and the similarities I noticed between the two are remarkable!
Neither England nor Tottenham have won the top prize in their respective fields for over 40 years (World Cup/domestic title respectively) and neither have any chance of doing so in the next 40 years!
Both England and Tottenham are built up no end by the media, and never live up to the hype. This results in both engaging in a managerial circus every two years!
Both England and Tottenham are world leaders in letting their fans down, especially in big games or against rival nations/clubs.
Both England and Tottenham unashamedly rip their fans off, not just in the ticket prices department, but also by flogging overpriced merchandise!
Both England and Tottenham deploy a midfield which cannot defend, meaning that no matter how good their attacks are they always let in more than they score (with England this is only noticeable when they play opposition above League 2 quality, with Tottenham this is noticeable as soon as they play teams who bother to turn up and play, unlike Derby and Wigan).
Both England and Tottenham play in white and cannot function properly against teams who play in red!
Both England and Tottenham are partial to spending vast sums of money on rubbish (the Wembley arch/Darren Bent spring to mind!)
So, are England Tottenham in disguise, or are Tottenham England in disguise? I hope you know the answer, because I can't tell the difference anymore!
Martin Jol for England!!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A29670456
A hilarious article on spuds,Ha,ha,ha,ha
mufcsean
29-11-2007, 17:57
England are more like Newcastle, good team but never win fuck all, always underachieving
somegooner
29-11-2007, 19:11
I think Denilson is good enough to play Aston Villa.
Aston Villa have done really well...so it's going to be a battle on Sat...I reckon Denilson will stay in with Gilberto if Flamini is out. Hopefully...no Senderos!! Sorry to make him a scapegoat...but he was awful...
Hopefully VP is back to some degree otherwise I think Adebayour/Eduardo might still be good...
Meyyappan
30-11-2007, 13:30
Aston Villa have done really well...so it's going to be a battle on Sat...I reckon Denilson will stay in with Gilberto if Flamini is out. Hopefully...no Senderos!! Sorry to make him a scapegoat...but he was awful...
Hopefully VP is back to some degree otherwise I think Adebayour/Eduardo might still be good...
Nope,vp wont be back until 2-3 more weeks!!!do you think hes injury prone
Yes seems so. The bastard got injured after celebrating his goal against Man Utd last season! :tongue:
Cesc, Flamey and RvP out is bad news for you guys. Hopefully, it is for 'The Greater Good.' :smug:
Hopefully Cesc and van Persie stay injured till at least after December the 16th.
Cannon ball
30-11-2007, 17:08
Both England and Tottenham play in white and cannot function properly against teams who play in red!
I say England play fairly well against Wales.
Stella Artois
30-11-2007, 17:30
Yes seems so. The bastard got injured after celebrating his goal against Man Utd last season! :tongue:
Cesc, Flamey and RvP out is bad news for you guys. Hopefully, it is for 'The Greater Good.' :smug:
Flamini isn't out of the Villa game.
We're missing Diaby, Cesc and Van Persie, that's it. Although Hleb and Clichy face late fitness tests.
If Clichy is unable to play, hopefully Hoyte plays instead as I can see Agbonlahor having a field day against Traore.
Meyyappan
30-11-2007, 18:08
Yes seems so. The bastard got injured after celebrating his goal against Man Utd last season! :tongue:
Cesc, Flamey and RvP out is bad news for you guys. Hopefully, it is for 'The Greater Good.' :smug:
We will see who has the last laugh,anyway it is for the greater good as our team will learn not to rely on one player/s if we come with 7 points out of our next three games,i would be a happy man.(should not do the draw against villa,it will puncture confidence
Stella Artois
30-11-2007, 18:10
Good news, Vela will be here next year.
By Richard Clarke
Arsène Wenger expects Carlos Vela to be a part of his first-team squad next season.
The 18-year-old striker is yet to play a game for Arsenal or even on English soil. The Mexican, who starred in the Under-17s World Cup in 2005, signed from Guadalajara in January and is spending this season on loan at Spanish side Osasuna. He has one goal in three La Liga starts so far.
But although he is out of sight the youngster - who hit eight goals for Spanish Second Division Salamanca last season - is hardly out of Arsène Wenger’s mind.
“We scout him every week when he plays,” said the Arsenal manager. “He can apply for a passport in March and normally he will start with us next summer.
“He will straight away be with the first-team and after that it is up to him to get a place in the side.
“I sent him to Spain because he comes from a Mexican culture and it is easier to adapt in Europe. He has what we like here at Arsenal. He is a good passer of the ball and a finisher. He has that intelligent movement with very good technique and great pace.”
Meyyappan
30-11-2007, 18:41
Good news, Vela will be here next year.
I knew that,seems like ade is on his way out,with bendtner being a revelation.
Zoolander
30-11-2007, 20:26
I knew that,seems like ade is on his way out,with bendtner being a revelation.
Ade on his way out?
Stella Artois
30-11-2007, 20:27
Not true.
Meyyappan
01-12-2007, 04:07
Not true.
He would eventually go out with-walcott,dudu,rvp,bendtner and now veela.
http://www.zerozero.pt/img/jogadores/6366_jogador.jpg
What Dudu are you on about that's the only Dudu I know. Enlighten me.
somegooner
01-12-2007, 05:23
http://www.zerozero.pt/img/jogadores/6366_jogador.jpg
What Dudu are you on about that's the only Dudu I know. Enlighten me.
Dudu is Eduado's nickname.
So you say he's just like Aliadiere?
Ade plays a lot not like Alia who sits on the bench and sometimes doesn't even sit there so why does Ade want to leave now?
AgentZero
01-12-2007, 08:14
what are the chances of agbonlahor scoring against you lot?
what are the chances of agbonlahor scoring against you lot?
Well he picked up a knock on Wednesday but it looks like he might play.
Meyyappan
01-12-2007, 12:45
So you say he's just like Aliadiere?
Ade plays a lot not like Alia who sits on the bench and sometimes doesn't even sit there so why does Ade want to leave now?
Ade doesnt want to leave,but wenger has paid 8m for dudu,walcott's the only english player that can hold down a starting place,rvp is out of question,bendtner was a revelation against sevilla while wenger rates veela very highly,if ade still wants to stay let him do so,anyway if he is to leave it will be after next season.
mufcsean
01-12-2007, 14:02
what are the chances of agbonlahor scoring against you lot?
9/1 Ladbrokes
Stella Artois
01-12-2007, 14:29
He won't and we'll be six points clear by the end of tonight.
:cool:
wrigh2uk
01-12-2007, 14:51
Ade doesnt want to leave,but wenger has paid 8m for dudu,walcott's the only english player that can hold down a starting place,rvp is out of question,bendtner was a revelation against sevilla while wenger rates veela very highly,if ade still wants to stay let him do so,anyway if he is to leave it will be after next season.
This guy serious ????????
He possesses some wan-esque qualities in his posting.
I know him, he's more intelligent though.
Viperized
01-12-2007, 15:09
Damn - no streams working. Anyone watching the game?
Stella Artois
01-12-2007, 15:10
I doubt it, seeing as it doesn't kick off for another two hours.
mufcsean
01-12-2007, 16:00
:laugh: what's the team gonna look like Stella?
Stella Artois
01-12-2007, 16:03
Hopefully:
Almunia
Sagna Toure Gallas Clichy (if fit, if not hopefully Hoyte)
Hleb (if fit) Denilson Flamini Rosicky
Ade Eduardo
I doubt it will be that though.
Viperized
01-12-2007, 16:14
Yep I'd also like to see that team.
I doubt it, seeing as it doesn't kick off for another two hours.
Heheh, thought the kickoff was at 3!
Stella Artois
01-12-2007, 17:04
Eduardo can't even get in the squad!
Anyway, I'm off to get pissed. Come on you Gooners.
Meyyappan
01-12-2007, 19:49
This guy serious ????????
I was just kidding,although ade has been frustating me for sometime,but its okay after today's match.
mufcsean
01-12-2007, 19:52
2-1 came from behind aswell :doh:
Viperized
01-12-2007, 20:50
Again, Hleb was brilliant. Hleb was pretty much one of the main reasons why we were so good in the first half. Gallas and Toure were also excellent and done brilliantly to prevent Villa scoring any goals. They're forming an excellent partnership.
mufcsean
01-12-2007, 20:59
Again, Hleb was brilliant. Hleb was pretty much one of the main reasons why we were so good in the first half. Gallas and Toure were also excellent and done brilliantly to prevent Villa scoring any goals. They're forming an excellent partnership.
:erm: didn't Villa score?
Viperized
01-12-2007, 21:06
Typo... sort off. I meant prevent scoring any more goals.
I heard Lassana want to quit Arsenal.
mufcsean
01-12-2007, 21:15
It's not Arsenal's fault he isn't good enough to get in the team
Though he did play today :blush:
pistolpete
01-12-2007, 21:50
Any quotes on Lassana wanting out?
How is he not good enough to get in the team when he has played the last 2 premiership games?
Really good performance from the lads today, showed good composure to come from a goal down, and also showed resilience by hanging on to 3 points.
Carew should have been sent off.
Seems to be a pattern occuring, how many outrageous tackles on Arsenal players this season, most getting away with it, Noble, Mcshane, Marcus Bent, Carew, Mascherano, list is growing.
Meyyappan
02-12-2007, 08:05
What score do you reckon for Toon vs Gunners,i would say a narrow 1-0 win for arsenal with ade on the scoresheet,but we never know in football.....
Dundon's
02-12-2007, 08:18
Some result tonight eh lads.
Loving the squad of players we got this season, what a mix.
Yes, you've got cover for more most positions. I still think a left winger would be a good addition.
somegooner
02-12-2007, 08:34
Yes, you've got cover for more most positions. I still think a left winger would be a good addition.
I don't think we need one. Eduardo plays there and he wasn't too bad against Sevilla.
We need a center half to replace Blunderos.
Meyyappan
02-12-2007, 09:00
Yes, you've got cover for more most positions. I still think a left winger would be a good addition.
No.we have many versatile players,merida should be able to break in to the first team if ever we are bringing someone in i would want it to be kaka or buffon.
Edit: They do want gilberto,sell him plus 12m for GIGI but i dont think they would accept.
somegooner
02-12-2007, 09:02
Merida can play on the left too.
Maybe some experience can give an extra hand but I think there's plenty of talent.
RB14 ARSENAL
02-12-2007, 09:21
http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=484787&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Wenger+-+The+area+I+might+need+to+stre ngthen
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Due to eboue and toure going for a while, wenger says he's bit short in defence. he won't be getting another midfielder.
Van Buyten of Bayern maybe.
Gavin Hoyte.
Brother of Justin Hoyte.
Or Djourou. He will be back by January.
somegooner
02-12-2007, 09:53
We might get Mputu but he won't help in January because I think he will be at the African Cup. I wonder who Wenger will buy, hopefully Mertesacker from Werder Bremen. He is like Senderos except taller and without all the stupid mistakes and 7 languages.
Meyyappan
02-12-2007, 11:47
[QUOTE=somegooner;1167000]We might get Mputu but he won't help in January because I think he will be at the African Cup. I wonder who Wenger will buy, hopefully Mertesacker from Werder Bremen. He is like Senderos except taller and without all the stupid mistakes and 7 languages.[/QUOTE
Hopefully
He's class and has lots of potential, Van Buyten is around 28 but is very good.
Viperized
02-12-2007, 13:20
I actually think we do need a left-winger. After Rosicky there is a major loss in quality on the left.
Eduardo is a striker, not a left winger. He has looked near anonymous on the left when played there in most games. Diaby is not a left winger either.
Stella Artois
02-12-2007, 15:20
I thought we were incredibly poor in the second-half, but thankfully we showed that bit of resilience that was required to dig in and defend well in tough conditions.
I'm not going to complain though - when you're 5 points clear and playing without your best striker and midfielder away to a good side on the back of 4 wins, I'd say that's a bloody good result.
somegooner
02-12-2007, 18:31
^^ Agreed.
calculus
02-12-2007, 19:57
Who's fit for Newcastle on Wednesday...will big Sam still have his job by then and if we beat he is surely a goner!
Played well in the first half but our level dropped and Villa raised theirs and I hope they can maintain their impressive form because all of a sudden its the usual suspects in the top for and I was hoping Villa, Blackburn, Portsmouth and Man City can keep up the pressure on the top 4.
Viperized
02-12-2007, 21:04
I'm guessing the likes of Eduardo, Bendtner, Denilson and Walcott will definitely start against Newcastle.
Cesc and Hleb (picked up an injury yesterday) will still be out though. Not sure about Van Persie.
Dundon's
03-12-2007, 03:06
That tackle on Hleb was fucking disgusting and the way it was talked down by the commentators was also bollox, now look at the outcome, we're down our most in form player.
That tackle on Hleb was fucking disgusting and the way it was talked down by the commentators was also bollox, now look at the outcome, we're down our most in form player.
Spot on Dundons...that was clearly from behind...no intention to get the ball...I hear it is scratches only though (painful as they are)....
I reckon Sagna is the best thing since sliced bread! What an impact he has made to our ability for crosses. If only Clichy could do the same...or have I mentioned that before!!! HA! Man of the match for me again.
N :cool:
Meyyappan
03-12-2007, 06:11
Mikel received one yellow for a similar tackle on saturday.
Meyyappan
03-12-2007, 07:07
Once a gunner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5f09P8guSE
Always a gunner
somegooner
03-12-2007, 09:38
Haha I thank Larsson for doing that. When I switched off the tele it was 2-1 to scum and I was so happy that they were sank by a former gunner.
Spot on Dundons...that was clearly from behind...no intention to get the ball...I hear it is scratches only though (painful as they are)....
I reckon Sagna is the best thing since sliced bread! What an impact he has made to our ability for crosses. If only Clichy could do the same...or have I mentioned that before!!! HA! Man of the match for me again.
N :cool:
Clichy can't cross to save his life. Even Armand Traore has better deliveries. I think along with poor defensive positioning, Clichy's other weakness is his crossing. He really needs to work on it.
Carew should have been sent off. These referees are very inconsistent. Robbie Keane's tackle on Muamba wasn't as viscous but he was sent off. Carew who came in from behind only got a yellow.
We really need that protection Sir Alex Ferguson was talking about. It's like every other game one of our players gets taken out from the back. First it was Santa Cruz then Bent, Heskey and now Carew. 4 players and none of them was sent off. I wont even start to talk about Noble.
I heard Hleb's injury is a gashed ankle. Kind of like what Agbonlahor suffered from before the game. Hopefully Hleb will be back asap.
somegooner
03-12-2007, 18:24
I think Wenger is doing it again. First he showed us Anelka for a few years and we all thought he would be the next great CF while he was moulding Henry into that role and then selling Anelka and showing us that Henry was the real deal. Same with Cashly, Viera, and Ljungberg. He nurtured Clichy, Fabregas, and Hleb. He might be doing it again. we all believe that Clichy could be the next great LB if he could improve his crossing but soon he might be sold and Armand Traore will be unleashed. (Dramatic right?) Armand has the potential to be better than Roberto Carlos, he could cover the whole wing, is defensively sound for his age and he even has a good free kick. Who knows with Wenger??
Meyyappan
04-12-2007, 10:50
I think hes very underrated,hes certainly in the top 5 of prem this season
his ball control and first touch are very good,he has a natural dribbling ability-hleb would never be really appreciated just because he doesnt do the flashy stuff like stepovers,dribbling means beating players which he can do very very well,he can provide the killer pass and has a good footballing brain:the assist aginst man city,the dribbling senario against reading,waited for the right moment to pass for fabregas opener against slavia prague,also holds the ball in tight spaces instead of just doing a back pass,good vision for fabregas' equalizer against liverpool,he creates space like against aston villa.The only thing he lacks is accuracy in his shots,which everyone can improve,baring any more injuries until the end of the season,whilst improving his precision in his shots,i think he would be a overall better player than kaka. He also does a lot of indirect assists,he creates the action for his team just because of a simple pass he goes unnoticed.
Here is a nice compilation of the "lucky" number 13 when he was at stutgart and his first seasons at arsenal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpVc-Rv-dEI
Agree or Disagree?
Meyyappan
04-12-2007, 12:44
I heard thuram's available on loan,is it true he would be the perfect replacement for toure,also is he cup tied?
mufcsean
04-12-2007, 14:03
Well i don't think he plays that often for Barac these days, though i could be wrong, he would be cup tied for the Champions league as he has played for Barca in the Champions league this year
Dundon's
04-12-2007, 14:46
I heard thuram's available on loan,is it true he would be the perfect replacement for toure,also is he cup tied?
Thuram was shocking in the few games I seen him play this season.
Stella Artois
04-12-2007, 15:28
I think hes very underrated,hes certainly in the top 5 of prem this season
his ball control and first touch are very good,he has a natural dribbling ability-hleb would never be really appreciated just because he doesnt do the flashy stuff like stepovers,dribbling means beating players which he can do very very well,he can provide the killer pass and has a good footballing brain:the assist aginst man city,the dribbling senario against reading,waited for the right moment to pass for fabregas opener against slavia prague,also holds the ball in tight spaces instead of just doing a back pass,good vision for fabregas' equalizer against liverpool,he creates space like against aston villa.The only thing he lacks is accuracy in his shots,which everyone can improve,baring any more injuries until the end of the season,whilst improving his precision in his shots,i think he would be a overall better player than kaka. He also does a lot of indirect assists,he creates the action for his team just because of a simple pass he goes unnoticed.
Here is a nice compilation of the "lucky" number 13 when he was at stutgart and his first seasons at arsenal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpVc-Rv-dEI
Agree or Disagree?
Dude, make your text a bit easier to read. It's like one solid chunk. :no:
The only thing that Hleb lacks, is the willingness to be a bit more selfish and to go for goal sometimes, rather than passing it on.
Meyyappan
04-12-2007, 16:07
Dude, make your text a bit easier to read. It's like one solid chunk. :no:
The only thing that Hleb lacks, is the willingness to be a bit more selfish and to go for goal sometimes, rather than passing it on.
So,do you also like me think that hleb can become better than kaka?
Meyyappan
04-12-2007, 16:11
Dude, make your text a bit easier to read. It's like one solid chunk. :no:
The only thing that Hleb lacks, is the willingness to be a bit more selfish and to go for goal sometimes, rather than passing it on.
I was in a hurry there,never cared to edit the spaces between phrases.
mufcsean
04-12-2007, 16:14
So,do you also like me think that hleb can become better than kaka?
Hleb is a very good player, but he doesn't even compare to kaka, as many player's don't, Kaka didn't win the World Player of the year for nothing, Hleb has major potential but to say he will be better than Kaka is going too far for me.
Viperized
04-12-2007, 17:48
Dude, make your text a bit easier to read. It's like one solid chunk. :no:
The only thing that Hleb lacks, is the willingness to be a bit more selfish and to go for goal sometimes, rather than passing it on.
Would you say he is world-class?
His performances this season have been superb. He has played well in every single game so far.
Stella Artois
04-12-2007, 17:51
Don't know if you can. If he keeps it up for the entire season, then perhaps. But he has to prove he can do it on a consistent basis first.
No Hleb Cesc or Flamini for tonight :\
We really need to start with two strikers.
Meyyappan
04-12-2007, 17:55
Hleb is a very good player, but he doesn't even compare to kaka, as many player's don't, Kaka didn't win the World Player of the year for nothing, Hleb has major potential but to say he will be better than Kaka is going too far for me.
Yeah,but i heard kaka's inconsistent in the league and to become better than kaka not only has he to improve his shooting skills but also put in more match winning performances as well as making the difference big games
Zoolander
04-12-2007, 17:55
No Hleb Cesc or Flamini for tonight :\
We really need to start with two strikers.
Isn't it tomorrow?
Meyyappan
04-12-2007, 17:57
No Hleb Cesc or Flamini for tonight :\
We really need to start with two strikers.
Is the game for tonight or tomorrow night?
Isn't it tomorrow?
Wait, today's Tuesday isn't it? :doh:
that would explain the lack of streams...
Isn't it tomorrow?I fucking hope so or otherwise I'd better get going. :laugh:
Viperized
04-12-2007, 18:04
No Hleb Cesc or Flamini for tonight :\
We really need to start with two strikers.
Denilson and Diarra in the middle it is then.
But then there is also Diaby and Gilberto.
Meyyappan
04-12-2007, 18:11
Can someone provide me a link to compilation of kaka featuring his successful year?Help will be most appreciated.
Can someone provide me a link to compilation of kaka featuring his successful year?Help will be most appreciated.
You're a fellow gooner so I'll be easy with ya.
Lay off the pills, son. They are not in the same neighbourhood even.
Kaka is someone who took a very mediocre AC Milan team on his back to win the CL, against tremendous teams.
Hleb is an amazing player who has a very good streak of games lately, but to compare him to Kaka is just not being serious.
Sorry.
I fully expect a scathing report from Stella tomorrow, on how shit the great city is, how bad the view is for the opposition and how shit our fans are. ;)
Stella Artois
04-12-2007, 20:58
I fully expect a scathing report from Stella tomorrow, on how shit the great city is, how bad the view is for the opposition and how shit our fans are. ;)
Still got to decide if I'm going. Got a ticket that I'm contemplating selling, as I don't think I'll be able to get there and I really cannot afford a train ticket right now.
Fucking sucks.
pistolpete
04-12-2007, 21:46
Denilson and Diarra in the middle it is then.
But then there is also Diaby and Gilberto.
Diaby is out injured too.
I think AW will go with Diarra and Gilberto, as Denilson is just coming back.
With Hleb out injured, who will support Ade up front?
Theo? Bendtner? Eduardo?(not even on the bench vs villa)
Personally id go with Theo.
Viperized
04-12-2007, 23:05
Edu and Ade for me.
Edu should get more chances. Bendtner moaning "I want to play more or I'll move to Chelsea" prove we are once again dealing with a talented footballer who's an asshole. Like Bentley. People think that they got the sun shining out of their asses. Edu, on the other hand, is keeping quiet and just waits for his chances. But I don't think he'll wait forever.
I really think he should be given a chance UP FRONT, as a striker or a second striker.
His best ability is goal scoring. Let's use it.
It won't happen as long as Ade and RVP is there.
Meyyappan
05-12-2007, 11:37
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FVeMcgJs-U
Hilarious,this is a must check
Hitler:arsenal 3 tottenham 1
It won't happen as long as Ade and RVP is there.
That's true, but seeing that RVP is out for such a long time, and Bendtner and Theo get chosen before Edu is annoying.
Stella Artois
05-12-2007, 15:11
Bendtner's fucking class, that's why.
I hear Chelsea are looking to buy him. :/ I'm not sure though.
Viperized
05-12-2007, 15:35
Edu isnt gettin any games oddly enough. how can he adapt without playing? im hoping he will start tonight because he is a proper finisher and rarely wastes chances.
Tigermen
05-12-2007, 17:21
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FVeMcgJs-U
Hilarious,this is a must check
Hitler:arsenal 3 tottenham 1
Yes because Hitler's likely to have supported Tottenham, with its Jewish connection and all.
Hilariously unfunny.
I think it's funny. :mellow:
Anyways, you lot are trying to buy Ibrahim Afellay.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11906_2941421,00.html
I hear Chelsea are looking to buy him. :/ I'm not sure though.
Yeah I heard it too.
He said that because he didn't get much games at Arsenal.
Viperized
05-12-2007, 22:02
fair result. but we gave the ball away too many times and wasnt the best of performances. the ref was a joke as ade was fouled too many times, as well as a few other instances involving other arsenal playersd.
why was edu stuck on the left? makes no sense in putting a centre forward on the wings.
i guess this is exactly why gilberto isnt in the 1st team anymore. he didnt seem to be too bothered either. diarra was pretty good on the other hand.
great finish by ade. shame he lost possession needlessly at times.
vanNistelrooy
05-12-2007, 22:04
Why was the ref a joke?
Zoolander
05-12-2007, 22:06
I thought the ref let the game flow very well.
vanNistelrooy
05-12-2007, 22:08
So did I, and I hope to see more games like that where the ref lets the game flow freely.
Wenger should buy proper wingers. Rosicky isn't a proper winger and neither is Hleb. But instead of looking for players that can actually play there, Wenger employs a fullback and strikers as wingers. Walcott, Eduardo and Eboye are all not wingers. Am tired of these experiments. Get proper players. e.g. Reyes - would have been a good player had it not been for his bad manners.
On the upside, when our go-to guys return we'll be burying such teams. Hopefully that is sooner than later. I don't think I can stand another match without Hleb, Cesc or Van Persie.
vanNistelrooy
05-12-2007, 22:10
IMO you can't drop Rosicky or Hleb, DEFINATELY not Hleb. Hardly wastes a pass and makes it look easy. An absolute joy to watch.
IMO you can't drop Rosicky or Hleb, DEFINATELY not Hleb. Hardly wastes a pass and makes it look easy. An absolute joy to watch.
What do you mean drop ? Why would Rosicky or Hleb be dropped ? Hleb is injured and Rosicky is just not a guy you can depend on. I don't think he can function without other good players around him
mufcsean
05-12-2007, 22:42
Lovely finish by Adebayor.
Viperized
05-12-2007, 22:44
Wenger should buy proper wingers. Rosicky isn't a proper winger and neither is Hleb. But instead of looking for players that can actually play there, Wenger employs a fullback and strikers as wingers. Walcott, Eduardo and Eboye are all not wingers. Am tired of these experiments. Get proper players. e.g. Reyes - would have been a good player had it not been for his bad manners.
On the upside, when our go-to guys return we'll be burying such teams. Hopefully that is sooner than later. I don't think I can stand another match without Hleb, Cesc or Van Persie.
ros had a great start to the season and playedc well at times today
edu definitely suffers the most on the wing and is only a CF, but eboue is improving on the wings from what it looks like
pistolpete
05-12-2007, 23:20
Reason we didnt win tonight - No Hleb, cheers John Carew, knob.
Well battled though lads although last 2 games we have been battered in the 2nd half, need to do more when we are ahead i reckon.
Cant really believe we only got 1 goal today, look at villas defence compared with Newcastles, ive hardly heard of any of the toons defenders.
calculus
06-12-2007, 03:25
Reason we didn't win today is no Hleb or Fab...we can do ok without both but 1 of the 2 would have been able to pick holes in Newcastles dodgy defence...They played well and the Ref had a good game as well
Hleb and Fabregas are our creative force. Without them we are forced to play a defensive game. I don't know how you can say we can do ok without both of them. If doing ok is getting draws against lesser opposition then were certainly not worthy of the title.
Rosicky is a Ljunberg type of player in my opinion. He's more of a runner than a dribbler like Hleb. Rosicky exploits holes in the defense and makes clever runs into those spaces. I surely hope they both return for the middlesbrough game.
calculus
06-12-2007, 03:36
Hleb and Fabregas are our creative force. Without them we are forced to play a defensive game. I don't know how you can say we can do ok without both of them. If doing ok is getting draws against lesser opposition then were certainly not worthy of the title.
Rosicky is a Ljunberg type of player in my opinion. He's more of a runner than a dribbler like Hleb. Rosicky exploits holes in the defense and makes clever runs into those spaces. I surely hope they both return for the middlesbrough game.
We can win without both of them in the side but it's a lot more laboured and Gilberto and Diarra were sloppy in midfield...The reason Flamini has been so successful is his efficiency at keeping the ball and giving it nice and tidy as well as breaking things up. Clichy gave the ball away far too much as well so I can't complain about the result!
What do you mean drop ? Why would Hleb be dropped ?
I think he meant not dropping Hleb for another winger. ;)
Meyyappan
06-12-2007, 06:16
And where will helb then play?
Oops, I missed the 'not.' Post edited.;)
We needed a creative midfielder, we had Denilson and it's a shame Wenger didn't opt to use him. He is a great passer and that's what we missed last night. Eduardo hasn't adapted yet, it's obvious, regardless of where he's employed. It takes time, it took all of them time, Hleb, Rosa, Van Persie, Ade - it just takes time to adapt. As long as he's working hard and has patience I believe it'll pay off.
I'm flying into London tonight, got tickets to the Steaua and the Chelsea matches. :smug:
I know it's totally off topic, but if anyone here knows anything good about the lake district, some pointers would be appreciated.
Dundon's
06-12-2007, 12:09
Looking back on the game last night I'll take the draw, another tricky away tie out of the way and still unbeaten. Also we could take into the fact that our entire midfield and our number one striker were missing.
4 points from our last two dodgy away fixtures, I'll take that all night long.
We have to remember that Newcastle were on a mental one too with the whole Sam thing.
somegooner
06-12-2007, 14:44
Wow. This season really is like 2003-04. We had a no.9 that was overhyped and struggled to adapt. (Jeffers and Eduardo).
Stella Artois
06-12-2007, 14:57
I think it's hard to blame it on Eduardo. We lacked any real creativity through the middle and Ade was doing his best to ruin any potential attacks with some shocking passes.
I must say I was surprised to learn however that when you're through on goal, not once, but twice and brought down cynically, that it's not actually a foul. Clearly I need to read the Laws of the game again.
somegooner
06-12-2007, 15:01
I think it's hard to blame it on Eduardo. We lacked any real creativity through the middle and Ade was doing his best to ruin any potential attacks with some shocking passes.
I must say I was surprised to learn however that when you're through on goal, not once, but twice and brought down cynically, that it's not actually a foul. Clearly I need to read the Laws of the game again.
I'm not saying that Eduardo is bad or something I'm just saying that right now he is like Franny Jeffers. Has moments of brilliance but not consistant. And after those fouls, to think, Allardyce said that we were conning the ref.
Stella Artois
06-12-2007, 15:04
"Allardyce in talking rubbish shocker".
Beye clearly brought down Ade, and Taylor did exactly the same. Shame the ref was more interested in looking good for the camera's, rather than doing his job.
Viperized
06-12-2007, 16:12
Wow. This season really is like 2003-04. We had a no.9 that was overhyped and struggled to adapt. (Jeffers and Eduardo).
Eduardo is hardly picked, but when he does play, he is stuck on the left, and it isn't his fault to play in that position. He has looked lost in this position in every game he has played in. He offers very little on the wings.
Dundon's
06-12-2007, 16:32
Yep I agree with that, Wenger said he's be right after Christmas so I guess this is his way of blooding him in. If you notice he does the same with Theo and Diaby.
I won't worry about Eduardo the man is a goal scoring machine, there's little fear of him.
Bammers05
06-12-2007, 19:10
Robin van Persie is set to return to full training next week but Arsène Wenger insists he will not be rushed back into the side.
The Dutch striker last played for Arsenal on October 7 when he struck twice in the 3-2 win over Sunderland at Emirates Stadium. He picked up a knee injury in the international break that followed and has been sidelined ever since.
Wenger’s side may have gone on to pull four points clear of their title rivals but there is certainly a clamour from the fans to see the 24-year-old back in an Arsenal shirt. Speaking to Arsenal TV Online on Thursday the manager was pleased at this new development but, at the same time, was prepared to preach patience.
“Van Persie and [Abou] Diaby are not far,” he said. “From next week they will be back in normal training.”
However Wenger added that a return against Steaua on Wednesday “looks early”.
“We have to see how he [Van Persie] responds to contact training,” the Frenchman went on. “Don’t forget he has been out for seven or eight weeks and has had no contact until now so we might have to be a little bit patient.”
As for the remaining three of Arsenal’s injured midfield quartet, none are likely to return at Middlesbrough this weekend. And, the manager implied, there may be a need to wait for them as well.
“We have no-one coming back for Sunday,” said Wenger, “and to put a date on that is very difficult. If you ask me who will be the first to come back then I think it could be Mathieu Flamini.
“Cesc and Alexander Hleb are on the same line but whether they come back next week or in two weeks I don’t know.”
Source (http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=485031&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Van+Persie+set+to+resume +full+training+next+week)
Good to see Van Persie will be back soon, hopefully now he can get a good run of form going, just in time for the congested winter fixture list.
Dragonfly
06-12-2007, 19:24
I wouldn't mind waiting until January for him to come back. I'd rather let him take what time is necessary to come back to the first team. However, I wouldn't mind him sitting on the bench for the Chelsea game.
somegooner
06-12-2007, 20:05
Hopefully he will be ready in time for Chelsea.
Dundon's
07-12-2007, 09:01
Did I hear Frogba is out for a long lay off?
Meyyappan
07-12-2007, 09:17
Yes you do
Dundon's
07-12-2007, 09:46
On another note what are we thinking about Diarra?
I'm happy with his ability but he seems to be taking too much time on the ball. He's not fitting into our system as far as I can see but time/Wenger will fix that hopefully.
somegooner
07-12-2007, 09:53
Gilberto doesn't fit anymore, unfortunately. Because in the days of Viera we used to have Gilberto sit in front of the back 4 and Viera not far ahead of him. Now Cesc is too far to get the ball to and 'Berto's passing range isnt so good. Flamini is keeping him out because his passing range is much better. Sorry Mr. Silva, no matter how much we respect you, you have to go.
Dundon's
07-12-2007, 10:06
Gilberto is going to leave at the end of the current season I have no doubt in that.
LarssonIsGhod
07-12-2007, 10:32
Gilberto is going to leave at the end of the current season I have no doubt in that.
were you think he'll end up?
Dundon's
07-12-2007, 10:33
Juventus or even Milan.
They love the experience. :D
pistolpete
07-12-2007, 20:00
On another note what are we thinking about Diarra?
I'm happy with his ability but he seems to be taking too much time on the ball. He's not fitting into our system as far as I can see but time/Wenger will fix that hopefully.
Very pleased with him.
I see him in a long term central midfield with Fabregas.
A newcastle fan friend of mine went to the CC game and said he was the best player he had seen in a long while.
Must be very difficult to come right into the middle of a team that plays the way we do, and pass the ball as quickly and as accurately as the rest of them.
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