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somegooner
23-02-2008, 09:15
So Denilson today??
Flamini's not fit?
Flamini is better than Denilson and Gilberto.
Arsenal
* 24 Almunia
* 03 Sagna
* 10 Gallas
* 06 Senderos
* 22 Clichy
* 32 Walcott
* 04 Fabregas
* 16 Flamini
* 13 Hleb
* 09 Eduardo
* 25 Adebayor (watch the hair)
Bad injury there for Eduardo by the looks of it.
Skysports say it's a very bad break, by the looks of the replay (not a great angle to see it) looks like it was very nasty indeed.
Hope he makes a speedy recovery, not good to see any serious injuries like that.
ThierryHenry14
23-02-2008, 12:57
Eduardo Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooo
BarnDoor
23-02-2008, 12:59
This must be really bad - we must be looking at bone pertruding, and by the looks of career ending.
Apparently pictures so 'graphic' as such that they aren't showing them on the replay.
I just hope he recovers. He's a real talent.
I just hope he recovers. He's a real talent.
Yeah, I've only been watching him really since joining Arsenal but you can tell he is a great finisher. Probably the best in the Premiership, and he seem's like a great guy from what I've seen of his attitude on the pitch. I do hope he recovers.
And to make it worse, 1-0 to brum.
And to make it worse, 1-0 to brum.
Unlike his injury, that is good news.
So how did this injury actually happen? A robust tackle or did he fall awkwardly etc?
Robust tackle. But from what I saw it didn't actually look as bad as some this season, although I only saw it once and it all happened pretty quickly so I might be wrong.
Poffeman
23-02-2008, 13:24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNiWMbH1A5k
It doesn't look all that bad, but it sounds terrible.
somegooner
23-02-2008, 13:31
Let's just hope it's like the Hleb injury earlier this season.
Ade's haircut makes him look like Toure don't you guys think??
I doubt anyone will be able to get a replay of the injury anytime soon unless it's leaked some how.
Let's just hope it's like the Hleb injury earlier this season.
Ade's haircut makes him look like Toure don't you guys think??
Yeah.
And he looks like one of my mate too.:huh:
Don Sweey
23-02-2008, 13:48
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5620/1963628uj6ww4gp4.jpg
http://ft.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/3f/3f18e3b23ec3c52249b21403ddf9f4 ecd8c17af9.jpg
Poffeman
23-02-2008, 13:48
Someone on another forum has found a pic;
http://d.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/ng/sp/empics/20080223/13/2686518136-soccer-barclays-premier-league-birmingham-city-v-arsenal-st-andrews.jpg
Very nasty.
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5620/1963628uj6ww4gp4.jpg
http://ft.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/3f/3f18e3b23ec3c52249b21403ddf9f4 ecd8c17af9.jpg
Oh my.
Excuse me while I puke.
Your excused.
somegooner
23-02-2008, 14:02
That's disgusting.
nickpring
23-02-2008, 14:09
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2032/edhm7.th.jpg (http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=edhm7.jpg)
found this picture, look at his ankle :|
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eduardo_Alves_da_Silva#Serious _injury
Some fans .. :(
Just got edited out..
Wow Walcott has scored again
And his name is THEOOOO WALCOOOOOOT
btw can someone please REMOVE THOSE gruesome images. The incident was bad enough. Even the tv channel hasn't shown any replays. Please be decent. No one needs a constant reminder of the incident
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eduardo_Alves_da_Silva#Serious _injury
Some fans .. :(
Just got edited out..
What was written?
http://i29.tinypic.com/5f18ig.jpg
Don Sweey
23-02-2008, 14:22
Some twat had written:
"The injury was so graphic that Sky Sports, who were showing the game live, refused to show clips of Eduardo's throat as the testicle was showing in his mouth"
RB14 ARSENAL
23-02-2008, 14:26
Oh my gosh. Martin Taylor ought to be banned till Eduardo fully recovers. What do you think guys?
Please discuss...
That tackle is disgraceful. This may have ruined or even ended the career of one of the best strikers in the Premier League and one of the hottest talents :crymore:
We wish u all the best Dudu....
Can someone post up a pic of Adebayor's new haircut. Unfortunately, I am unable to watch the game on Sky Sports right now.
Oh my gosh. Martin Taylor ought to be banned till Eduardo fully recovers. What do you think guys?
Your a idiot.
wrigh2uk
23-02-2008, 14:31
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5620/1963628uj6ww4gp4.jpg
http://ft.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/3f/3f18e3b23ec3c52249b21403ddf9f4 ecd8c17af9.jpg
That tackle looks worthy of deportation :shocking:
Hope Eds going to be ok, he'll recover im sure , Cisse goes through one of those every couple of seasons
What on earth was Gallas thinking?
somegooner
23-02-2008, 14:52
Dubious pen.
BarnDoor
23-02-2008, 14:55
Yeah I thought he got the ball to be honest.
Cannon ball
23-02-2008, 15:00
Your a idiot.
Why is he an idiot? The guy has just killed Eduardo's career, he's never going to be the same player he was.
Don Sweey
23-02-2008, 15:02
Why is he an idiot? The guy has just killed Eduardo's career, he's never going to be the same player he was.
Because he likely (not definitely) didn't go into the tackle with the intention of doing so. If you punish a player for accidentally (was it in this case?) causing a major injury, what are you saying about potential repercussions for people making hard tackles?
Bammers05
23-02-2008, 15:03
Well said, Barndoor. The majority of the managers of lower placed teams go on about there being one law for the big four and another law for others, but, on the evidence of that penalty award, I think those managers will have revise what they've said, because there is no way that that challenge ever merited a foul, when you consider the kind of challenges Birmingham got away with during the match.
Cannon ball
23-02-2008, 15:03
Hope you win the league lads. :)
I'll echo this comment. Anyone but the fucking ManUre.
Stella Artois
23-02-2008, 15:13
Because he likely (not definitely) didn't go into the tackle with the intention of doing so. If you punish a player for accidentally (was it in this case?) causing a major injury, what are you saying about potential repercussions for people making hard tackles?
Check the Eduardo thread I made for the definitive answer on that.
Badgerman
23-02-2008, 15:16
I just hope he recovers. He's a real talent.
Well he's just lost a year off his career (whilst he's at his peak no less) to have reconstructive surgery on all the ligaments, bones, cartilage, muscle and whatnot so I'd say he will never be the same again.
If they have to stick bolts and rods in his leg/ankle then his career is over.
Honestly it would be a miracle if he didn't walk with a limp for the rest of his life, that's where you have to start right now.
RB14 ARSENAL
23-02-2008, 15:39
Your a idiot.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7260564.stm
What were u saying Rafa ?!
I feel the same way as Arsene right now.
vanNistelrooy
23-02-2008, 15:41
Haven't seen the tackle, but it can't be as bad as some I've seen in the past that have gone unpunished.
Nice to hear Gallas being a cunt again. Way to lead as a captain.
EDIT: Just seen a pic from the Eduardo thread. I agree he should get a lengthly ban, but one for life? Shut up Wenger, you turd.
Bammers05
23-02-2008, 15:43
I feel the same way as Arsene right now.
Quoted in agreement.
pistolpete
23-02-2008, 18:27
Must win the league now.
come on Bendtner, Walcott, RVP, time to step up.
Must win the league now.
come on Bendtner, Walcott, RVP, time to step up.
Not looking promising then is it!?
Your only hope is that Adebayor keeeps scoring...
pistolpete
23-02-2008, 18:56
your only hope is that Ronaldo's shoulders dont give way under the weight of your whole team.
Along with Rooney & Tevez... :smug:
pistolpete
23-02-2008, 19:01
heavyweights
heavyweights
Maybe, but they have been finding the mark in important games, especially when we have been under performing.
All joking aside, it's looking more and more like this could be a cracker of a season. The last 12 games are going to be interesting... especially when you visit OT! ;)
somegooner
23-02-2008, 19:11
This summer's shoping list:
- A striker to replace Eduardo
- A left winger
- A right winger
- A left back
- A goalkeeper
- A central midfilder if Flamini leaves
Players to sell:
- Lehmann
- Gilberto
- Eboué
Please give suggestions to which players we should get.
My suggestions:
- Benzema
- Capel
- Dimitryov
- ??
- Casilla
- Veloso
I think that we still need a striker even though we are getting Vela because he is young and needs time to adapt.
ThierryHenry14
23-02-2008, 19:14
I don't think we need a left back, goalkeeper or a new central midfielder by next season personally.
Stella Artois
23-02-2008, 19:21
This summer's shoping list:
- A striker to replace Eduardo
- A left winger
- A right winger
- A left back
- A goalkeeper
- A central midfilder if Flamini leaves
Players to sell:
- Lehmann
- Gilberto
- Eboué
Please give suggestions to which players we should get.
My suggestions:
- Benzema
- Capel
- Dimitryov
- ??
- Casilla
- Veloso
I think that we still need a striker even though we are getting Vela because he is young and needs time to adapt.
How do you suggest we pay for these players? I guarentee their respective clubs won't accept Monopoly money.
Christ this thread just gets worse and worse.
Bammers05
23-02-2008, 19:37
My suggestions:
- Benzema
- Capel
- Dimitryov
- ??
- Casilla
- Veloso
Benzema - 25M
Capel - 15M
Dmitriov - 5M
Casilla(not sure who you're talking about, but I'm guessing it's Iker Casillas of Real Madrid) - 30M
Veloso - 15M
= 90M :doh:
Those are my rough estimates of how much those players would cost.
Do you really think we have that kind of money?
And if we do, do you really think Wenger would spend it like that?
Try to think through your posts a little more in future. Please.
AgentZero
23-02-2008, 20:40
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4h92z_dudu-blessure_politics
ouch.
Bammers05
23-02-2008, 22:37
Arsène Wenger admits his made some "excessive" comments about Martin Taylor following Saturday's game.
Passions were running high during the Arsenal manager's post-match press conference after a game in which Eduardo sustained a broken leg from the Birmingham defender's challenge and the visitors left three points slip in the final seconds due to a debatable penalty.
Wenger was strident in his view on Taylor's tackle but later he re-assessed his own viewpoint.
“It was a highly emotional afternoon and we were all shocked by the injury to Eduardo," he said. "On reflection, I feel that my comments about Martin Taylor were excessive. I said what I did immediately after the game, in the heat of the moment.”
Source (http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=488014&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Wenger+-+My+comments+on+Taylor+were+%2 7excessive%27)
Zoolander
23-02-2008, 22:51
Gallas is a tosser.
nickpring
23-02-2008, 22:59
Benzema - 25M
Capel - 15M
Dmitriov - 5M
Casilla(not sure who you're talking about, but I'm guessing it's Iker Casillas of Real Madrid) - 30M
Veloso - 15M
= 90M :doh:
Those are my rough estimates of how much those players would cost.
Do you really think we have that kind of money?
And if we do, do you really think Wenger would spend it like that?
Try to think through your posts a little more in future. Please.
Think he means Kiko Casilla from a Spanish Team who escapes me atm.
Surely he doesn't think Iker.
Dragonfly
23-02-2008, 23:02
Gallas is a tosser.
That was a shocking reaction, but at least he cares.
Bammers05
23-02-2008, 23:04
Think he means Kiko Casilla from a Spanish Team who escapes me atm.
Surely he doesn't think Iker.
Fair enough, I forgot about Casilla.
Even so, without that 30m, 60m is more than Wenger would ever be willing to spend in one summer, especially on players who won't necessarily, be first-team regulars.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7260564.stm
What were u saying Rafa ?!
I feel the same way as Arsene right now.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=510509&cc=3436
This summer's shoping list:
- A striker to replace Eduardo
- A left winger
- A right winger
- A left back
- A goalkeeper
- A central midfilder if Flamini leaves
Players to sell:
- Lehmann
- Gilberto
- Eboué
Please give suggestions to which players we should get.
My suggestions:
- Benzema
- Capel
- Dimitryov
- ??
- Casilla
- Veloso
I think that we still need a striker even though we are getting Vela because he is young and needs time to adapt.
Well we'll take Clichy then.
Don't think Flamini will leave.
RB14 ARSENAL
24-02-2008, 09:27
How long will Eduardo be likely to be sidelined???
Apparently he has suffered a compound fracture to his leg. Surely out for rest of season. But how long after that ?
He will be sidelined for 6 months.
Casilla(not sure who you're talking about, but I'm guessing it's Iker Casillas of Real Madrid) - 30M
Casillas has recently signed a lifetime contract. He's pretty much priceless.
Benzema recently said in an interview that he would like to be our next number 9.
vanNistelrooy
24-02-2008, 09:55
I've always found the word "priceless" funny. So is he worth £0? :)
I've always found the word "priceless" funny. So is he worth £0? :)
:mellow:
No, it means that he is not for sale.
vanNistelrooy
24-02-2008, 10:18
:mellow:
No, it means that he is not for sale.
I know that! But saying he's "priceless" kinda sounds like he's worth nothing (to me, in a weird way).
I know that! But saying he's "priceless" kinda sounds like he's worth nothing (to me, in a weird way).
Quite the opposite.
Worthless would mean he's worth nothing.
pistolpete
24-02-2008, 12:45
Good articles on the gooner website about Gallas.
http://www.onlinegooner.com/exclusive/index.php?id=541
http://www.onlinegooner.com/editorial/index.php?id=99
vanNistelrooy
24-02-2008, 13:10
Quite the opposite.
Worthless would mean he's worth nothing.
I KNOW!
I'm just saying the word "priceless" sounds funny.
somegooner
24-02-2008, 13:45
Think he means Kiko Casilla from a Spanish Team who escapes me atm.
Surely he doesn't think Iker.
You are right. I meant Kiko Casilla, he plays with Espanyol. Which striker do you think AW might get. I think aiming for Benzema is too high, Ben Arfa might come though. I think that a good winger would be Jérémie Ménez, he plays with Monaco and he is naturally two footed.
But do you guys think that Eboué will be allowed to leave??
Because he likely (not definitely) didn't go into the tackle with the intention of doing so. If you punish a player for accidentally (was it in this case?) causing a major injury, what are you saying about potential repercussions for people making hard tackles?
That's actually only part of the picture. Punishment for offences is divided and categorized by 2 elements: intent and result. That's why you go to jail for less time for ATTEMPTED MURDER than for MURDER, even though you had the same criminal mind.
That's why you don't go to jail for a car accident that resulted in zero dead, and you DO go to jail if you accidentaly kill someone in a car crash.
So to your question: hard tackles are worth cards, when they don't finish off people's carreers. When footballers go on the pitch, they do have a reasonable expectation to get injuted, to some extent. When that realm of reasonbleness is breached, as we can clearly see in the pictures, the attacker should be punished severly, and I do think it's appropriate he is banned for the rest of the season/lifetime from top league etc.
This will serve 2 purposes:
1. Tacklers might just take a scruple of extra care or attention going into questionable tackles. Taylor could have pulled off in the last moment; he saw the ball was nowhere near him; it wasn't even a foul that killed of a counter-attack or something - it was for nothing. Such carelessness, to me, is like someone who ran off a kid with his car while changing a CD in his stereo - sure he didn't mean to kill the kid, it's just that he really wanted to listen to Amy Winehouse right now.
2. When players have a general expectation that they will not suffer fouls that will end their careers, a player who breaks that expectation must be reprimanded in such way that will restore that previous general expectation.
It's a game, true, but it should also be used to deliver other ideas. Such as zero tolerance to violence. Banning Taylor for a long time will serve that purpose as well.
Bammers05
24-02-2008, 14:15
On the tackle on Eduardo...
"The injury is the result of a very bad tackle. The first diagnosis we have of the injury is very, very bad. I would not like to go into medical details because I am not qualified enough but the first news is very bad. He is in hospital."
On it possibly ending his career...
"I don't know. I would not go as far as that but it does not look good."
On other issues in the game...
"It was never a free-kick on the first goal and it was not a penalty. Five minutes before that it was a 100 per cent penalty on Adebayor. But we have to take it, we cannot change it and we have to look at ourselves as well. We have to fight against all that. We should have killed the game off earlier and scored the third. That is why with any little mistake you are caught."
On Eduardo's injury affecting the team in the first half...
"Yes 100 per cent. You could see that straight away it had a big effect."
On his half-time team-talk...
"We wanted to play football and the game what we wanted to play. We did that quite well."
Source (http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=487901&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=%27The+first+diagnosis+i s+very,+very+bad%27)
Interesting comments by Mr Wenger there. I'd have to agree with him about it not being a penalty, but I'm not too sure about the penalty that Adebayor could have been given.
pistolpete
24-02-2008, 18:47
Arsenal's Champions League opponents have shown their true class by wishing Eddie a speedy recovery.
The Gunner's drew 0-0 with the reigning European champions at Ashburton Grove last week, and despite offering very little going forward, AC Milan put on one of the most accomplished defensive displays you're ever likely to............and did so without resorting to rough-house tactics.
Eddie's horrific injury shocked football fans all round the world, with graphic images appearing in newspapers and blog sites everywhere.
Yet only hours after Eduardo was admitted to hospital, AC Milan put a statement on their official website titled 'COME ON EDUARDO!'
They said, MILAN - Eduardo Da Silva has broken his left leg in the match against Birmingham today, as reported by the BBC. The Rossoneri's family wishes the Arsenal striker all the best and a quick return to playing.
Now that's true class.
cut and pasted from.
http://www.arsenal.vitalfootball.co.u k/article.asp?a=504538
Viperized
24-02-2008, 19:40
Thats a fantastic gesture from Milan.
If we get knocked out, I'd like them to win the Champions League.
Bammers05
24-02-2008, 19:41
Thats a fantastic gesture from Milan.
If we get knocked out, I'd like them to win the Champions League.
Quoted in agreement.
mufcsean
24-02-2008, 21:08
That is a wonderful gesture by Milan, they truly are a classy team.
Dragonfly
24-02-2008, 21:11
Off the pitch, maybe. On it......?
mufcsean
24-02-2008, 21:21
You knew what i meant.
Eduardo - I am determined to overcome this injury
By Richard Clarke
Eduardo has given his account of the events at Birmingham City on Saturday.
The Croatian striker, 25 on Monday, has ruled himself out of the rest of the season and Euro 2008 in the summer after breaking his leg following a challenge from Martin Taylor. However he adds that he is 'determined to overcome this injury'.
“I don't remember the incident very well and it is not something that I want to see again on television or in the newspapers," said the summer signing from Dinamo Zagreb.
"All I remember is that when I fell, I looked down at my foot and it had turned the other way. The rest is just a blank. It was an unfortunate situation but these things can happen in football.
“I am unsure at the moment of the extent of the injury and how long I will be out of action for but I know that I won't be able to play for Arsenal for the rest of the season or be ready in time for the Euros this summer.
"But I'm not worried about that. My concentration and determination is on making as quick a recovery as possible. I am determined to overcome this injury.
“I would like to thank the medical team here at Arsenal for their efforts as well as the staff at Selly Oak hospital who carried out the operation on Saturday night. Everyone there made me feel as comfortable as possible.
"I would also like to say how touched I am by the many messages of support I have received and to be surrounded by my loved ones at this time.”
Source (http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=488036&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Eduardo+-+I+am+determined+to+overcome+t his+injury)
Also, can't see you dropping points in the next 3 league games, Villa (H) Wigan (A) and Boro (H) but a toughie away at Chelsea and we have Liverpool at OT, gonna be an exciting end to the season and i'm glad were chasing you rather than Chelsea, though anything could change i suppose.
nickpring
24-02-2008, 22:09
He will be sidelined for 6 months.
I think he may be out for a bit longer than that Wanny Boy.
vanNistelrooy
24-02-2008, 22:19
Sky Sports has just said that Eduardo will miss Euro 2008.
Well, duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
somegooner
26-02-2008, 06:09
Should we sell Eboue or Hoyte and keep Eboue as a back up right back??
Well Eboue is a good backup at right back and I think you guys should loan out Hoyte to gain some first team experience.
EDIT: Well, Hoyte is 23 now so it's useless to keep him.
somegooner
27-02-2008, 12:04
Guess who's back!!!
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=6014 17
Until he gets injured again that is. :ninja:
Meyyappan
27-02-2008, 17:45
Well it seems that we have signed some young pacy full of tricks ronaldo like 18 yr old brazilian winger pedro.remeber u heard it here first
Dragonfly
27-02-2008, 17:48
Well it seems that we have signed some young pacy full of tricks ronaldo like 18 yr old brazilian winger pedro.remeber u heard it here first
Are you joking?
somegooner
27-02-2008, 18:31
Well it seems that we have signed some young pacy full of tricks ronaldo like 18 yr old brazilian winger pedro.remeber u heard it here first
I've known that since the summer. His name is Pedro Silva and he is on loan somewhere.
ThierryHenry14
27-02-2008, 19:07
Good news Eduardo's out of hospital...
Stella Artois
27-02-2008, 19:27
Pedro's currently at Salamanca.
Anyway, good to see RvP's back in training. I highly doubt he'll be on the bench for Saturday however. He might be on the bench for the AC game, but I'd rather he wasn't if he's not fit.
As per usualy we're really struggling with injuries at the wrong time.
mufcsean
01-03-2008, 15:30
Senderos :limp:
somegooner
01-03-2008, 15:38
I know. I'm predicting a comeback.
If things stay as they are, We go back on top on GD... :smug:
Viperized
01-03-2008, 15:52
Fabregas.
How did he miss that chance?
somegooner
01-03-2008, 16:07
Ade isn't scoring because of his haircut.
Viperized
01-03-2008, 16:50
For fucks sake.
Our title run has ended. It was nice while it lasted -- we've got a tough schedule ahead of us and our recent performances have been less than convincing. It's all good when we're winning but this team does not give much of a response when the going gets tough. Sad but true.
Our confidence has probably hit rock bottom. Milan would probably maul us.
A very disappointing performance. We blew it against Birmingham, and we've just stabbed ourselves in the foot today. Brilliant. Just brilliant.
Keyser Soze
01-03-2008, 16:52
For fucks sake.
Our title run has ended. It was nice while it lasted.
Our confidence has probably hit rock bottom. Milan would probably maul us.
A very disappointing performance. We blew it against Birmingham, and we've just stabbed ourselves in the foot today. Brilliant. Just brilliant.
Wow. You're a fool.
Viperized
01-03-2008, 16:53
Wow. You're a fool.
Why, because I'm a negative cunt?
Better to be negative than positive. At least it doesn't hurt you as bad!
edit: holy shit. equaliser. Bendtner.
Keyser Soze
01-03-2008, 16:53
1-1, shutup. ;)
somegooner
01-03-2008, 16:54
Wow. You're a fool.
I agree. We are still top.
For fucks sake.
Our title run has ended. It was nice while it lasted -- we've got a tough schedule ahead of us and our recent performances have been less than convincing. It's all good when we're winning but this team does not give much of a response when the going gets tough. Sad but true.
Our confidence has probably hit rock bottom. Milan would probably maul us.
A very disappointing performance. We blew it against Birmingham, and we've just stabbed ourselves in the foot today. Brilliant. Just brilliant.
Look at that...You are still top of the league thanks to a Bendtner equaliser. You should learn to wait till the end of the game, it will save you looking like an idiot.
Viperized
01-03-2008, 16:55
I know, I know.
:laugh: You never learn do you?
Lord Shrimpeh
01-03-2008, 17:13
To be fair a late equaliser doesn't render all of what Viperized said nonsense... Arsenal do need to improve if they want to retain the title as Chelsea and us look in good form. I'm sure they will though.
To be fair a late equaliser doesn't render all of what Viperized said nonsense... Arsenal do need to improve if they want to retain the title as Chelsea and us look in good form. I'm sure they will though.
It was nonsense whether we drew or not.
Viperized
01-03-2008, 17:26
It was nonsense whether we drew or not.
So you're telling me we've been playing well enough over the past few weeks?
Not sure what Arsenal you've been watching then.
We DO need to improve our performances. We've got some tough fixtures coming up and if we continue to play the same way we won't be so lucky to score again in the dying seconds of the match.
Could you honestly say that we deserved the point?
Keyser Soze
01-03-2008, 17:28
So you're telling me we've been playing well enough over the past few weeks?
Not sure what Arsenal you've been watching then.
We DO need to improve our performances. We've got some tough fixtures coming up and if we continue to play the same way we won't be so lucky to score again in the dying seconds of the match.
You would of been 2nd due to goal difference, so you were saying how you're out of the title race and expected Milan to destroy you. Hmmm...
Will Milan "probably maul you" now?
You're a decent lad and that but there's being a pessimist and then there's being a fickle whinger. :tongue:
Viperized
01-03-2008, 17:31
Yeah, I know :\
It is going to be tough to score at the San Siro. Toure doesn't look like he'll be fit, Rosicky is still out and Van Persie hasn't had much match practice, so I think we could say a win would be unlikely.
It may be possible that Arsenal could draw and get through thanks to the away goals rule, but the odds clearly favour Milan.
Don Sweey
01-03-2008, 17:39
Have you seen us lately?
Catania nearly ripped us to pieces, albeit we were without seven injured players. Today we're without eight injured players against Lazio and the last three days have seen many people at the club say that we're tired and struggling. Believe me, they're not just saying it for some sort of psychological battle.
Our plan after the first leg was to work on fitness so we could try and emulate one of our performances against Manchester United or Bayern Munich in recent seasons. Instead we've not had a chance to do so as players are dropping like flies.
You would of been 2nd due to goal difference, so you were saying how you're out of the title race and expected Milan to destroy you. Hmmm...
Will Milan "probably maul you" now?
You're a decent lad and that but there's being a pessimist and then there's being a fickle whinger. :tongue:
This.
Massively important goal anyway. Theo looks a totally different player as well.
Phil W.A.F.C
01-03-2008, 21:28
What a time for Wigan to play Arsenal. If Milan beat you in the week then game on and as stupid as it sounds i fancy ourselves :tongue:. Anyone on hear going to the game?
Stella Artois
01-03-2008, 21:40
Fuck off cuntchops.
Edit: Actually, you could be of use for once Phil. Could you tell me how to get to the ground from the station? Ta love.
xx
For fucks sake.
Our title run has ended. It was nice while it lasted -- we've got a tough schedule ahead of us and our recent performances have been less than convincing. It's all good when we're winning but this team does not give much of a response when the going gets tough. Sad but true.
Our confidence has probably hit rock bottom. Milan would probably maul us.
A very disappointing performance. We blew it against Birmingham, and we've just stabbed ourselves in the foot today. Brilliant. Just brilliant.
I dread to think what you'd be like if you supported a lower league team.
You are like the media's reaction to that stupid earthquake in the week. No deaths or anything, but it was front page news on all the papers and was being talked about for days, when there are often earthquakes in Japan and California that kill people and destroy buildings.
Phil W.A.F.C
01-03-2008, 22:18
Fuck off cuntchops.
Edit: Actually, you could be of use for once Phil. Could you tell me how to get to the ground from the station? Ta love.
xx
Only if you ask nicer babe xx love you xx
Stella Artois
01-03-2008, 22:35
Only if you ask nicer babe xx love you xx
Dear darling Phillip,
Would you be so kind as to let me know the best way to get to the ground from the train station?
Best regards,
Stella
Keyser Soze
01-03-2008, 22:35
You just follow the crowds wearing football colours.
Stella Artois
01-03-2008, 22:38
You just follow the crowds wearing football colours.
I'm planning to go out in Wigan the night before, so I'll be nowhere near any other Gooners I'd imagine.
Phil W.A.F.C
01-03-2008, 22:49
Dear darling Phillip,
Would you be so kind as to let me know the best way to get to the ground from the train station?
Best regards,
Stella
:lol:
Its about a 20 minute walk from the station. When you leave the station turn left and just walk straight on you will see Wigan Pier just walk abit further and you will see top of the stands then just follow that. As you can probably see im shit at directions so just get out the station n as a bobbie they will guide you lol. Sorry for my shit reply
Lord Shrimpeh
02-03-2008, 13:28
Turn left out the station (or right if you arrive at Wigan Wallgate) and just keep walking straight then turn right at Asda. Don't look for Wigan Pier you won't see it :p
Stella Artois
02-03-2008, 13:36
Cheers. Much appreciated lads.
Phil W.A.F.C
02-03-2008, 14:39
No probs. How does the other guy know? :huh: Scary.
pistolpete
02-03-2008, 15:59
got to learn to stop going behind, and start performing in the 1st half of games.
Man Utd seem to have most games wrapped up by half time and they can relax in the 2nd half, we relax in the 1st half and end up having to chase the game in the 2nd.
Viperized - i reckon you would have taken being 2nd on goal difference with ten games to go, at the start of the season??
get behind the lads, i think that a last minute equaliser might lift the squad.
somegooner
02-03-2008, 16:33
We should beat Milan. They are missing Seedorf and Kaka. Pato is unfit, they'll be there for the taking.
Surely it can't get any easier than that. Hopefully Rosicky is fully fit so that we can really take the game to them.
Don Sweey
02-03-2008, 16:43
We should beat Milan. They are missing Seedorf and Kaka. Pato is unfit, they'll be there for the taking.
You've forgotten the contents of my post. Allow me to clarify for those of you who aren't checking the Milan thread:
The only confirmed absences are those of Dida, Ronaldo and Seedorf. Nesta, Pirlo and Kaka will not be fully fit but all three should play. Kaka, of the three, is the most at risk. Pato is not fully fit but should start - he just needs to watch his ankle as any tackles made on it leave him in a lot of pain.
"There for the taking" shows a complete lack of respect for the players we have. We'd be in that position if both goalkeepers were out along with Nesta, Maldini, Pirlo, Kaka, Seedorf and Pato. With such absences we'd stand very little chance of even producing penetrating attacking moves.
If we do end up crumbling, that isn't because anybody expects it, it is because we are capable of doing so even with a full-strength side. Inzaghi did not play at all yesterday, due both to circumstances in yesterday's game and the fact we've got a European game on Tuesday.
Stella Artois
02-03-2008, 16:46
Sweey, by no means do the following idiots represent the views of the rest of us:
somegooner, Meyyappan, Viperized and blob.
somegooner
02-03-2008, 17:04
Sweey, by no means do the following idiots represent the views of the rest of us:
somegooner, Meyyappan, Viperized and blob.
Who are "the rest of us"?? You've named all the gooners in that apart from yourself. We exist you know and everyone has opinions. Someone has a swollen head.
Bammers05
02-03-2008, 17:05
Who are "the rest of us"?? You've named all the gooners in that apart from yourself.We exist you know and everyone has opinions. Someone has a swollen head.
Ahem
somegooner
02-03-2008, 17:08
Ahem
Oh sorry Bammers05. Almost all the gooners then.
Bammers05
02-03-2008, 17:14
You also forgot: JoeyM, Pistolpete, Dragonfly, Nturtle, Nifty1pound50, Martin_Cranie, ThierryHenry14, Boy Rossy B, Scarface, RB14 Arsenal, Tigermen and, probably, quite a few others whom I can't remember.
You also forgot: JoeyM, Pistolpete, Dragonfly, Nturtle, Nifty1pound50, Martin_Cranie, ThierryHenry14, Boy Rossy B, Scarface, RB14 Arsenal, Tigermen and, probably, quite a few others whom I can't remember.
Yeah, just a few.
somegooner
02-03-2008, 17:20
You also forgot: JoeyM, Pistolpete, Dragonfly, Nturtle, Nifty1pound50, Martin_Cranie, ThierryHenry14, Boy Rossy B, Scarface, RB14 Arsenal, Tigermen and, probably, quite a few others whom I can't remember.
OK. I retract what I said. I didn't know some of them were gooners. We are all gooners and we all support Arsenal. We should have the same atmosphere as our squad; they all treat each other like family and so should we.
RB14 ARSENAL
02-03-2008, 18:15
Yes, We are the Arsenal boys !!! Dont U Forget that !!!!
Despite the slip-up's against Birmingham and Villa, I reckon we can hit Milan on the break using a 4-5-1 formation and maybe get that all important away goal that may see us through.
If Almunia plays, then to be quite honest I believe Milan won't score more than 1 against us, even at their home ground.
Any predictions for the game on Tueday, fellow Gooners????
I think 1-1 and we win on Away Goals rule :happy:
Cannon ball
02-03-2008, 18:23
For fucks sake.
Our title run has ended. It was nice while it lasted -- we've got a tough schedule ahead of us and our recent performances have been less than convincing. It's all good when we're winning but this team does not give much of a response when the going gets tough. Sad but true.
Our confidence has probably hit rock bottom. Milan would probably maul us.
A very disappointing performance. We blew it against Birmingham, and we've just stabbed ourselves in the foot today. Brilliant. Just brilliant.
http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/gif/ppreflex.gif
mufcsean
02-03-2008, 18:26
You also forgot: JoeyM, Pistolpete, Dragonfly, Nturtle, Nifty1pound50, Martin_Cranie, ThierryHenry14, Boy Rossy B, Scarface, RB14 Arsenal, Tigermen and, probably, quite a few others whom I can't remember.
Shame that half of those don't post much in here anymore, instead we only get the views of the "others" that Stella mentioned.
Viperized
02-03-2008, 23:01
Sweey, by no means do the following idiots represent the views of the rest of us:
somegooner, Meyyappan, Viperized and blob.
Yeah sure okay. I'm an idiot because I post some correct statements.
Yes some of my reactions appear to be knee-jerk, but what I've said is not completely wrong.
Stella Artois
03-03-2008, 01:07
Believe me it is.
Any sane Arsenal fan would admit that they find your views embarrassing. It's been going on all season and it's cringeworthy.
Idiots... wow! Don't know how you survive a warning or ban..
Am guessing that's what it takes to be named "Most Improved of the YEAR 2006"
If you've improved I can't imagine what you were like before.
No one meant any disrespect to Milan and no one said it would be a walk over. You can't blame anyone for pointing out that the task will be a bit easier with those absentees which is a fact. It still doesn't make them mediocre.
Milan have the quality to put up a good challenge and even win the game. Imagine Man Utd running without Rooney, Ronaldo and a half fit Tevez. Wouldn't be the same.
And seeing as Milan have only the Champions league to play for Kaka will play, injured or not. If he has to take pain killers then he will. This is their game of the season.
If we beat Milan it wont be because they missed players but because we deserve it.
I don't understand how a title chasing side can honestly be so pleased with a home draw against a team like Villa. The rection of the players and manager yesterday made it seem like they'd won the game in the last minute not drawn it.
First of all Villa are no pushovers.
And secondly, did you expect the players to hang their heads after holding onto top spot. It was a win in that we kept our place at the top and scored a last minute goal after struggling for over an hour.
First of all Villa are no pushovers.
And secondly, did you expect the players to hang their heads after holding onto top spot. It was a win in that we kept our place at the top and scored a last minute goal after struggling for over an hour.
I'd expect the players to be gutted for dropping points and letting my rivals catch up, if you want to win a title you have to be expecting to win every home game regardless of opposition. Fair enough you struggled but the reaction just seemed to be a bit too happy for a home draw in my opinion. I know its a completely different kettle of fish but if Rangers at drawn at home to Aberdeen on Saturday under the same cicumstances, I would have been gutted along with the players and manager. Lets face it, Arsenal has a 5 point lead 2 weeks ago and now its only one, I just can't see how you can honestly be satisfied with that if you want to win a title.
Stella Artois
03-03-2008, 04:11
I'd expect the players to be gutted for dropping points and letting my rivals catch up, if you want to win a title you have to be expecting to win every home game regardless of opposition. Fair enough you struggled but the reaction just seemed to be a bit too happy for a home draw in my opinion. I know its a completely different kettle of fish but if Rangers at drawn at home to Aberdeen on Saturday under the same cicumstances, I would have been gutted along with the players and manager. Lets face it, Arsenal has a 5 point lead 2 weeks ago and now its only one, I just can't see how you can honestly be satisfied with that if you want to win a title.
That's probably because the only time it's acceptable for Rangers to lose in the league is when facing Celtic.
Once your team plays against competitive opposition every week, let me know if you've changed your mind.
Meyyappan
03-03-2008, 05:45
Idiots... wow! Don't know how you survive a warning or ban..
Am guessing that's what it takes to be named "Most Improved of the YEAR 2006"
If you've improved I can't imagine what you were like before.
No one meant any disrespect to Milan and no one said it would be a walk over. You can't blame anyone for pointing out that the task will be a bit easier with those absentees which is a fact. It still doesn't make them mediocre.
Milan have the quality to put up a good challenge and even win the game. Imagine Man Utd running without Rooney, Ronaldo and a half fit Tevez. Wouldn't be the same.
And seeing as Milan have only the Champions league to play for Kaka will play, injured or not. If he has to take pain killers then he will. This is their game of the season.
If we beat Milan it wont be because they missed players but because we deserve it.
Doesnt seem the statement of an idiot.
AgentZero
03-03-2008, 06:57
what this thread need is
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UNITY!!!!!!!...im Rick James, Bitch
somegooner
03-03-2008, 07:56
what this thread need is
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http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8112/chappelle1xx4.3e770ceda9.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=530&i=chappelle1xx4.jpg)
UNITY!!!!!!!...im Rick James, Bitch
I agree with you.
Don Sweey
03-03-2008, 10:00
No one meant any disrespect to Milan and no one said it would be a walk over. You can't blame anyone for pointing out that the task will be a bit easier with those absentees which is a fact. It still doesn't make them mediocre.
Yes but the post was stating that with the absence of two or three players - only one of whom is confirmed out - we'll be a walk over. There's disrespect and a lack of accuracy there.
Milan have the quality to put up a good challenge and even win the game.
Not from what I've been watching lately :no:
And seeing as Milan have only the Champions league to play for Kaka will play, injured or not. If he has to take pain killers then he will. This is their game of the season.
How wrong do you want to be? If we don't finish fourth we're fucked beyond comprehension. We won't play him if he is highly unfit because a serious injury to him would do us more harm than good and ultimately cost us more money.
If we beat Milan it wont be because they missed players but because we deserve it.
That depends on how the match pans out.
On that note, I'm retiring to the Milan thread.
Yes but the post was stating that with the absence of two or three players - only one of whom is confirmed out - we'll be a walk over. There's disrespect and a lack of accuracy there.
Then by all means I take it back. I certainly didn't mean it like that.
somegooner
03-03-2008, 15:29
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11945_3230280,00.html
Guess who's back.
What are the odds on him playing more than 3 games before getting injured again?? Forgive my sarcasm but I'm just frustrated with van Persie's injuries.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11945_3230280,00.html
Guess who's back.
What are the odds on him playing more than 3 games before getting injured again?? Forgive my sarcasm but I'm just frustrated with van Persie's injuries.
The feeling is mutual. At some point out of frustration I almost suggested we cut our losses and get a replacement. Dude can never go an entire season without breaking. But in all honesty, I watched his last injury as it happened and it was really bad.
Hopefully its all behind him and he can put together a nice consistent run. We need the quality.
I doubt he'll start against Milan though. At least he will make the bench I hope.
Meyyappan
04-03-2008, 11:06
Seaman-certainly
Adams-through and through arenal and was a fantastic captain as well as motivator
Bould-Seemingly his best defensive partner,lets let toure finish his arsenal career
Dixon-Cant think of any better
Winterburn-Have to see clichys finished article and cole hasnt been with us long enough
With defensive line set
The DMF shall go to none other than club legend viera-good athlete,had great stamina,could pass and score had both ariel and physical presence.
Then i shall favour two wingers;
Pires-Good technique,passing,suberb shooting and could the odd tackle to win the ball back and had surprise moments like winning headers for goals against terry in the CL.
Marc Overmars-Would do wonders in the current side just like bobby but with added pace.
Arguably our greatest player in 'the hole role'-Dennis Bergkamp
And two strikers:
Wright-Our Nistelroy type player,simply class.
And ofcourse
Henry-All time france and arsenal goalscorer,could compare to most strikers in club football of any era in his PRIME
And by the way people say wenger doesnt do big name signings,but wasnt overmars well known and a good player before he arrived?
Keeping my finger crossed for a samir nasri.
Meyyappan
04-03-2008, 12:15
I feel he(Samir:See my previous post) really would improve our squad.
For those who dont know vela well,please visit carlos vela news or loan watch on gooners world.He plays every game with the same confidence(something which some of our younger stars could benefit greatly from e.g walcott and tarore) and hunger as nani and anderson.
He has faired more than well against the likes of daniel alves and sergio ramos.
In attack we would be left with;
Rvp
Adebayor
as first choice
Walcott is showing great promise
Bendtner has a lot to improve while awaiting dudu's return.
In midfield:
Vela
Nasri( www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbjY... )shall provide competition and as well fill in for cesc in big cl games and likewise if injured or tired
Rosicky
Helb
Central midfield we will be filled as ever
Cesc
Flamini
Diaby
Denilson
Song
Gilberto may leave i feel and also i think we need him no more.
Leftbacks
Traore
Clichy(must be rested when possible as hes been looking tired lately)
Rightbacks
sangna
eboue(would provide options from the bench as well)
Centrebacks
Gallas
Toure
Song(could fill in both positions and we may see his best position)
senderos
Djourou
Gk
Lemann(can hold another season i suppose)
Improving Alumunia
Fabianski
I've gotta say I think this will prove to be a trophyless season for Arsenal. Man United will beat you to the title, or more, Arsenal will and have already started, bottling it.
And Milan will probably have too much for you tonight.
Don't get me wrong though, I'd love to see Arsenal win both, I just can't see it right now.
Meyyappan
04-03-2008, 15:49
But ads arent u a manchester united fan?
mufcsean
04-03-2008, 15:52
:no: Newcastle
Seaman-certainly
Adams-through and through arenal and was a fantastic captain as well as motivator
Bould-Seemingly his best defensive partner,lets let toure finish his arsenal career
Dixon-Cant think of any better
Winterburn-Have to see clichys finished article and cole hasnt been with us long enough
With defensive line set
The DMF shall go to none other than club legend viera-good athlete,had great stamina,could pass and score had both ariel and physical presence.
Then i shall favour two wingers;
Pires-Good technique,passing,suberb shooting and could the odd tackle to win the ball back and had surprise moments like winning headers for goals against terry in the CL.
Marc Overmars-Would do wonders in the current side just like bobby but with added pace.
Arguably our greatest player in 'the hole role'-Dennis Bergkamp
And two strikers:
Wright-Our Nistelroy type player,simply class.
And ofcourse
Henry-All time france and arsenal goalscorer,could compare to most strikers in club football of any era in his PRIME
And by the way people say wenger doesnt do big name signings,but wasnt overmars well known and a good player before he arrived?
Keeping my finger crossed for a samir nasri.
Nasri isn't good enough for Arsenal yet. Anyway where's Brady? George? Jennings? O'Leary? Armstrong?
Keyser Soze
04-03-2008, 16:12
Seaman-certainly
Adams-through and through arenal and was a fantastic captain as well as motivator
Bould-Seemingly his best defensive partner,lets let toure finish his arsenal career
Dixon-Cant think of any better
Winterburn-Have to see clichys finished article and cole hasnt been with us long enough
With defensive line set
The DMF shall go to none other than club legend viera-good athlete,had great stamina,could pass and score had both ariel and physical presence.
Then i shall favour two wingers;
Pires-Good technique,passing,suberb shooting and could the odd tackle to win the ball back and had surprise moments like winning headers for goals against terry in the CL.
Marc Overmars-Would do wonders in the current side just like bobby but with added pace.
Arguably our greatest player in 'the hole role'-Dennis Bergkamp
And two strikers:
Wright-Our Nistelroy type player,simply class.
And ofcourse
Henry-All time france and arsenal goalscorer,could compare to most strikers in club football of any era in his PRIME
And by the way people say wenger doesnt do big name signings,but wasnt overmars well known and a good player before he arrived?
Keeping my finger crossed for a samir nasri.
You weren't even following football when most of these were in their Arsenal days, so where did you copy this off of? :erm::rolleyes:
:no: Newcastle
Alright mate! It's not that ba....ah, fuck it. Who am I kidding?
Meyyappan
04-03-2008, 17:05
You weren't even following football when most of these were in their Arsenal days, so where did you copy this off of? :erm::rolleyes:
Most players i have stated i have watched on videos maybe only winterburn i didnt get a good view of.................
I was waiting for other gooners to respond so i can know about other legends but no one did :no:
And btw arent u the G ?:unsure:
Brady would have got instead of wright in 4-4-2
Jennings i havent seen much of...............
But as i said i was waiting for others opinion.
I meant nasri as backup..........just like nani,but i think u rate nani more and i really dont like eboue in right midfield:not only does he have a tendency to cheat but also his shooting skills are very poor,he kinda curves it too much like agianst bolton and milan but also in rm he has stopped delivering pin-point crosses though hes still adapting i would prefer him at right back and would like wenger to bring in a winger>
somegooner
04-03-2008, 17:47
Who would you guys prefer on the wings?? Walcott, Eboué, or Diaby??
Bammers05
04-03-2008, 17:50
Bould-Seemingly his best defensive partner,lets let toure finish his arsenal career
As good as Bould was, surely our double-winning captain Frank McLintock deserves that spot. I'd, also, put David O'leary in there ahead of Bould
Winterburn-Have to see clichys finished article and cole hasnt been with us long enough
I'd go with Kenny Samson, actually. He was the Arsenal captain during the early 80s if you didn't already know.
Pires-Good technique,passing,suberb shooting and could the odd tackle to win the ball back and had surprise moments like winning headers for goals against terry in the CL.
Marc Overmars-Would do wonders in the current side just like bobby but with added pace.
I seriously doubt he'd do 'wonders' in the current squad, he'd be a good squad player, but I can't see him doing 'wonders'. Also, you seem to have ommitted Cole from the squad, because he 'wasn't with us for long enough', however, Overmars was only here for three seasons (97-98 to 99-00) while Cole was in the first team for six seasons (00-01 to 05-06), so I'm not sure how you can say that Cole wasn't here for long enough if you're going to put Overmars in. I wouldn't put Cole in my team anyway, but that's besides the point.
As for wingers, I'd go for George Armstrong on the right, or maybe David Rocastle. On the left, I'd go with Pires, or maybe Cliff Bastin, but I'm not sure if he'd be classed as a left-midfielder or a striker.
Arguably our greatest player in 'the hole role'-Dennis Bergkamp
The hole role :huh: :no: Anyway, I'd go with Liam Brady as the creative midfielder. Bergkamp's never played as a midfielder, in my memory.
And two strikers:
Wright-Our Nistelroy type player,simply class.
Actually, Ian Wright isn't anything like Van Nistelrooy apart from their ability to score vast quantities of goals consistently. For example, it is well documented that Van Nistelrooy doesn't score very many goals from outside the box. On the other hand, Wright tended to score them from just about anywhere.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4p6MC3Rk_s (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4p6MC3Rk_s)
BTW, if it's the two best goalscorers you want, then you should go with Wright and Henry, but if it's the best strike partnership, then I'd go with Bergkamp and Henry.
And by the way people say wenger doesnt do big name signings,but wasnt overmars well known and a good player before he arrived?
Overmars was, also, carrying a serious injury, I think, and many people had written him off.
I wouldn't put Cole in my team anyway, but that's besides the point.
Yet, I bet just like all the other Arsenal fans, you were hailing him as the best left back in the world.
Sure you hate him for the way he behaved in his final two years at the club and you have every right to, but it's very petty to try and make out he was not brilliant for you.
vanNistelrooy
04-03-2008, 18:38
Gallas now bashing Walcott?
And Wenger wants to extend this cunt's contract?
somegooner
04-03-2008, 19:00
It's not bashing. It's constructive criticism.
Bammers05
04-03-2008, 19:08
Yet, I bet just like all the other Arsenal fans, you were hailing him as the best left back in the world.
Sure you hate him for the way he behaved in his final two years at the club and you have every right to, but it's very petty to try and make out he was not brilliant for you.
In fairness, he was brilliant for us, but I'd still put Kenny Samson ahead of him even if he'd left the club on good terms.
Keyser Soze
04-03-2008, 21:39
Our confidence has probably hit rock bottom. Milan would probably maul us.
Heh.
Arsenal were stunning today. If you didn't win that it would've been criminal.
vanNistelrooy
04-03-2008, 21:40
As well as Arsenal played, how bad were Milan?
End of an era I feel.
Phatmann
04-03-2008, 21:41
I've noticed Walcott has been playing well recently. Didn't see the whole match today but saw his assist for the 2nd goal which he did pretty well with.
EDIT: Well done on beating Milan by the way. However bad Milan are, it's still an impressive result to win 2-0 away.
Milan are gone. They practically gave away those two goals..
I've gotta say I think this will prove to be a trophyless season for Arsenal. Man United will beat you to the title, or more, Arsenal will and have already started, bottling it.
And Milan will probably have too much for you tonight.
So much for your thoughts :lol:
mufcsean
04-03-2008, 22:05
First English team to beat Milan in the San Siro, that's not bad no matter how bad Milan were. I only saw the goals but Walcott did well to carry on and play such a good ball for Adebayor, who scored his first ever Champions League goal. He (Walcott) has looked very impressive in that wide right position, should start there more often.
AgentZero
04-03-2008, 22:20
great game, walcott's one quick mofo
Definitely Maybe
04-03-2008, 22:36
Fabregas is fucking mint. That is all.
ThierryHenry14
04-03-2008, 22:40
Awesome awesome pure freakin awesome .... What a performance the whole team played superb , Walcott showed what he can offer in the coming years...
Viperized
04-03-2008, 22:42
Unbelievable performance. We clearly outplayed Milan and everyone played well. But our star man tonight was most definitely Cesc.
I think it's safe to say that Arsene should understand that Walcott > Eboue.
mufcsean
04-03-2008, 22:54
Watching the highlights now, can't believe Hleb was booked for diving, clearly a foul.
Dragonfly
04-03-2008, 23:10
Excellent win and a stunning performance! Fabregas pulled the strings, but pretty much everyone was on their game.
Milan were poor, even with the usually reliable and up for it Gattuso looking out of sorts. Kaka was the only man that looked like he could (or even wanted to) threaten us. It's sad to see Milan in this state, but on the plus side, 2-0 to the Arsenal. :)
pistolpete
04-03-2008, 23:21
Great performance tonight by tho whole team, i thought gallas and flamini were immense
Well done the lads, i reckon we will get Barca in the next round.
Big game against Wigan first though on Sunday.
Dragonfly
04-03-2008, 23:27
If we get Barcelona, that will be one hell of a feast of top quality football.
If we get Barcelona, that will be one hell of a feast of top quality football.
I'd rather see that in the final to be honest, would be a great spectacle.
Dragonfly
04-03-2008, 23:33
I'd rather see that in the final to be honest, would be a great spectacle.
I was thinking the same. It would be a great advert for European football and could again prove why the Champions League is the premier competition in the world.
Nifty1Pound50
04-03-2008, 23:44
Flamini was by a long ol' street the best player on the pitch tonight.
Simiarly to Mascherano in last year's final, he kept Kaka extremely subdued, and that takes some doing.
All the people reaching for the "Milan played awful" card - it takes a superbly efficient performance to make a side of their quality look that bad. Arsenal produced that.
A testament to how well we bossed the game in the middle of the park, is the fact that Adebayor had a shocker, gave the ball away countless times, yet even though he was the focal point of our attack we still managed to retain the ball so well throughout the game.
Flamini just earnt himself whatever payrise he wishes, with a performance like that.
Referee was too fussy, though. I think Arsenal could've waltzed this were it not for him buying any bit of contact as a free-kick.
Dragonfly
04-03-2008, 23:54
Yep, Flamini was immense and I also liked how even Walcott forced Kaka off the ball. It was good to see that side of his game. I felt Diaby was average though.
I thought Adebayor was good. He made things difficult for Milan's defence. He brushed them aside on a couple of occasions and kept on rolling Oddo when a long ball came to him.
Stella Artois
05-03-2008, 00:59
fuck Yes!!!
Stella Artois
05-03-2008, 01:04
Fabregas is fucking mint. That is all.
For the first time in a while I agree with you!
Woolwich Wanderers deserved thier victory.
somegooner
05-03-2008, 04:37
I didn't watch the game so could someone tell me if our formation was
--------------------------Almunia------------------------
---Sagna-------Gallas-------------Senderos----Clichy-
-Eboué-----Fabregas----Flamini-----Diaby-----Hleb---
-------------------------Adebayor-----------------------
or:
--------------------------Almunia-------------------------
--Sagna---------Gallas------------Senderos----Clichy--
--Eboué---------Fabregas-------Flamini---------Diaby--
----------------------------Hleb---------------------------
---------------------------Adebayor-----------------------
somegooner
05-03-2008, 07:10
Thought so. Thanks Joey.
EDIT: Do you guys think that van Persie start against Wigan??
Meyyappan
05-03-2008, 07:20
Bergkamp-I meant in ss just as kaka did for milan last year......... wright and henry as central forwardsand and i dont know about the samson guy.
And Fabregas was brilliant today,hopefully he carries that form to the England League and Cesc gave a very good defensive performance as well.
And helb was booked for a blatant foul.
Very goood performance by us and hopefully walcott gets some starts though rvp is back.
I've gotta say I think this will prove to be a trophyless season for Arsenal. Man United will beat you to the title, or more, Arsenal will and have already started, bottling it.
And Milan will probably have too much for you tonight.
Don't get me wrong though, I'd love to see Arsenal win both, I just can't see it right now.
Well though your team is having a season of mixed feelings i am sure you can cheer in the fact that something you would have loved to happen has a strong possibility of occurring.:lol: :smug: :smug:
:cheer: :cheer:
:naughty: :naughty: :limp: :limp:
:lmao: :lmao:
Forget about Nasri i am happy with what i have and also is there a draw for the next round?:unsure:
I thought we were to play either shalke or porto thus giving us a strong chance of reaching the final..................
somegooner
05-03-2008, 08:18
Very goood performance by us and hopefully walcott gets some starts though rvp is back.
No, I prefer Walcott as a supersub like when he came on against Bolton and Sunderland this season.
Well done Arsenal, I was very wrong as a couple of you have pointed out.
Milan were poor but then you can't take anything away from Arsenal who played some fantastic stuff, two very good goals too. Like I said I'd love to see them go all the way in both competitions, and although I predicted Milan would progress I was over the moon that Arsenal won.
Fair play to them.
What a fantastic game. Two teams that had respect for each other, beautiful football and a great atmosphere.
Two thumbs up to all involved.
somegooner
05-03-2008, 14:42
I hope we get Barça for the next round. If we don't get the Schalke/Porto winner that is, I think Chelsea will get them since they always get the easy draw. When is the Quarter Final draw anyways??
I hope we get Barça for the next round. If we don't get the Schalke/Porto winner that is, I think Chelsea will get them since they always get the easy draw. When is the Quarter Final draw anyways??
:rolleyes:
Viperized
05-03-2008, 15:42
I'd like to see anyone but Man United to be honest.
I'd like to see anyone but Man United to be honest.
Scared? :laugh:
Scared? :laugh:
No need to pay attention to him. He is scared of the cookie monster ffs.
Bring it fuckin on, whoever it is.
No need to pay attention to him. He is scared of the cookie monster ffs.
Bring it fuckin on, whoever it is.
What? Our harmless little Cookiemonster? :laugh:
ThierryHenry14
05-03-2008, 17:11
Why should we be afraid of United when we have just beaten Ac Milan...
Erm because United have been better then Milan all season and spanked you not so long ago
somegooner
05-03-2008, 18:15
But we didn't have a fit squad, and we had low confidence. Now I feel that we could beat them.
But we didn't have a fit squad, and we had low confidence. Now I feel that we could beat them.
Yadda, yadda, and Man U didn't go out with their strongest squad either. I'm sure more excuses will follow from the Wenger book of bullshit ;)
somegooner
05-03-2008, 20:29
Yadda, yadda, and Man U didn't go out with their strongest squad either. I'm sure more excuses will follow from the Wenger book of bullshit ;)
No disrespect to Wenger. I love the guy but we lost the match because "Errrr... I did not zee eet". I just couldn't resist saying that since I didn't technically watch us lose since I wasn't at home.
Guillermo
05-03-2008, 20:35
But we didn't have a fit squad, and we had low confidence. Now I feel that we could beat them.
You'd won your previous 4 games going into that match so I doubt you can blame it on low confidence.
Stella Artois
05-03-2008, 21:17
Yadda, yadda, and Man U didn't go out with their strongest squad either. I'm sure more excuses will follow from the Wenger book of bullshit ;)
The arrogance of the United fans never ceases to amaze me.
Let's not even begin to discuss all the shockingly poor excuses your alcoholic cunt of a manager has come up with, eh?
The arrogance of the United fans never ceases to amaze me.
Let's not even begin to discuss all the shockingly poor excuses your alcoholic cunt of a manager has come up with, eh?
Dude, notice the little smiley winking face? Nope guess not.
The comment was a pisstake so untwist yer knickers.
Bloody southerners, far too highly strung. Or not 'strung' high enough..?
Dude, notice the little smiley winking face? Nope guess not.
The comment was a pisstake so untwist yer knickers.
Bloody southerners, far too highly strung. Or not 'strung' high enough..?
Let's put it this way: do YOU prefer to draw Arsenal?
Didn't think so.
On the same subject - this is my "wish list" for the draw, rated from top to bottom:
1. Schalke
2. Fener
3. Roma
4. Liverpool/Inter
5. Chelski
6. ManU
7. Barca
What do you think?
(with our luck we'll probably get Barca).
Dragonfly
06-03-2008, 16:48
Schalke is definitely the easiest out of the lot, but I wouldn't mind anyone, to be honest, especially now Messi is injured.
Let's put it this way: do YOU prefer to draw Arsenal?
Didn't think so.
Quite the opposite mate, i'd rather face a top side as this season we have lost stupid games to weaker sides.
I'd happily take Arsenal. There's a bit of afters due from the Cup, so it'd at least be lively!
Robinho’s agent Wagner Ribeiro has insisted that the forward is happy with life in Madrid, but he also revealed that the striker was close to walking out on the club last season.
Robinho has been having a good season with Los Merengues thus far and his goals have kept them at the top of La Liga, often rescuing the team from poor displays, as was the case against Recreativo Huelva.
Talks of a new contract have been doing the rounds over the last few weeks, but it appears that Robinho's stint at the Bernabeu almost came to an end last summer.
“It will be necessary to see what the club want,” Ribeiro told EFE Radio. “Robinho likes Madrid and he has adapted well here and he has always been professional.
“Last Summer I spoke to Pedrag Mijatovic and I told him that Robinho was not happy because Capello always kept him on the bench and he was not playing him.
“I told him that Robinho had an offer from Arsenal and that if he continued on the bench then he would move to London, but Mijatovic told me that my client would be the best in the world and thar he would not be leaving."
Wagner also spoke about the player's chances of winning the World Player of the Year Award, and he blames Madrid’s Champions League failure for diminishing those.
“If Real Madrid reached the final in Moscow then he would have won it (World Player of the Year) but now it’s more difficult for him,” he opined.
Los Merengues will be hoping that they can bounce back form their recent woes in La Liga when they clash with Espanyol at the Bernabeu on Saturday night.
:shocking:
mufcsean
07-03-2008, 11:09
Walcott and Abou Diaby injured, apparently it was in a game behind closed doors against Colorado Rapids, van Persie completed an hour in the game also.
Meyyappan
07-03-2008, 14:55
If fabregas maintains something near the kind of form he had against A.C milan then i suppose we can sneak a win and also wenger says persie was very tired after completing the game and rosicky shall be back in 10-12 days:realmad:
somegooner
07-03-2008, 18:07
Is Eboué back yet??
If not:
-----------------------------Almunia------------------------------
---Sagna----------Gallas-------------Senderos/Touré---Clichy-
---Fabregas-------Flamini--------------Gilberto-----------Hleb--
-------------------Adebayor-----------Bendtner------------------
Bench:
- Lehmann
- Hoyte
- Denilson
- Randall
- Van Persie
What do you guys think??
ThierryHenry14
07-03-2008, 18:23
He played on tuesday i can't see fabregas playin in rm , a good line up otherwise.
keep the squad as it is !
somegooner
07-03-2008, 18:32
He played on tuesday i can't see fabregas playin in rm , a good line up otherwise.
He played on Tuesday in Europe. I think that this is the last game of his suspension so he won't play and I can't imagine anyone else at RM. Hleb is on the left, Diaby and Walcott are injured, and Eboué is suspended. Maybe Randall or Barazite will start at RM with Cesc in Gilberto's place but then who will make up the numbers on the bench? Traoré maybe??
Nah, Traore plays on the left.
Nifty1Pound50
07-03-2008, 18:37
Something on the lighter side of the news - one of my mates works as lift maintenance to the block of flats where Adebayor stays.
This morning, at about 8am, he let Emmanuel Adebayor out of a lift after he had been trapped in it all night. :laugh: :laugh:
somegooner
07-03-2008, 18:41
Why didn't Ade call maintenance earlier??
Nah, Traore plays on the left.
I know you idiot. I meant on the bench. As in who will take Randall's place on the bench if he plays.
mufcsean
07-03-2008, 18:42
:laugh: Was he on his own or with somebody?
Nifty1Pound50
07-03-2008, 18:44
Why didn't Ade call maintenance earlier??
I haven't heard any details yet - I just had the story approximately third-hand from another mate.
I can only assume the hours don't quite add up, and that he was only stuck in the lift for a few hours or something!
somegooner
07-03-2008, 18:48
I wonder if Ade was angry if he really spent the night there and maintenance came in the morning.
Maybe he got asleep and didn't realise that the maintenance came. :ninja:
somegooner
07-03-2008, 18:52
If he got angry I wonder how your mate would've felt. Being shouted at by someone famous. And above that, enormous. And strong.
Meyyappan
08-03-2008, 18:07
A unique team - their coach hasn't won for years, but he's an idol," said Mourinho. "There are no pressures at Arsenal. But do not say he's growing young players into talents, because he takes jewels and polishes them."
Adebayor - I owe Wenger
Gunners striker thanks boss for opportunity
By James Dall Last updated: 7th March 2008
Adebayor - I owe Wenger
Adebayor: Grateful
Emmanuel Adebayor has told Sky Sports News that he is in Arsene Wenger's debt after the Frenchman brought him to Arsenal.
Wenger signed the Togo international from Monaco in January 2006 for £7million.
Adebayor managed four goals in the second half of the 2005/2006 campaign, but came in for criticism for his apparent lack of composure in front of goal.
And while the 24-year-old managed just 12 goals in 45 appearances last season; he soon won over The Gunners faithful after demonstrating his tireless work ethic.
This season, Adebayor's performances have improved in staggering fashion, with the powerful striker already netting 23 goals.
And speaking to Sky Sports News, he has admitted that his goals are a way of repaying the faith shown in him by Wenger after he struggled in the latter stages of his Monaco career.
"To pay him back is going to be very difficult," he told Sky Sports News.
"At Monaco, from June to December I scored only one goal in 19 games. How come Arsene Wenger came and looked for me?
Special
"It is something special. He is the one who gave me a chance to become who I am today. I want to keep on enjoying myself and listening to him."
Adebayor also discussed Arsenal's progress to the UEFA Champions League quarter-finals after they defeated Milan with a wonderful display in the San Siro - winning the tie 2-0 on aggregate.
"We have the team, we have the quality. No doubt about that. We just have to take things game by game," he continued.
"At the moment we are in the quarter-finals and we do not know who we will be drawn against.
"But the most important thing is that we keep on enjoying ourselves."
Trophies
When asked whether he would prefer to continue his prolific scoring run or claim titles at the end of the season, he said: "There is no doubt. I would go for the trophies.
"I don't care about scoring. I am here to win something. For me, the most important thing is to give 100 per cent in every single game and at the end of the year we shall see what we have achieved.
"This team is young; we are all here to achieve things together. We know we have the ability. We just have to keep on going and achieve something for our fans."
Shut the fuck up moaninho.
Keyser Soze
08-03-2008, 18:29
Meyyapan, please die. Thanks.
Meyyappan
09-03-2008, 08:21
You nut obviously Adebayor has been turned in to a star by Wenger while moaninho claims otherwise..................... .............................. .........
When an out-of-job, media artist of a manager, who blamed Wenger for being a "voyeur", is actually taking his time and effort to talk about Wenger - it shows only one thing, and that's Mourinho is a bored dickhead. Besides that, he lacks class ("I'll kill Chelsea") and his latest run in Chelsea makes Avram look like a genius.
All Mourniho is good at is supressing creative players; I will really feel sorry for Robben if Jose moves to Real Madrid....
Meyyappan
09-03-2008, 13:08
When an out-of-job, media artist of a manager, who blamed Wenger for being a "voyeur", is actually taking his time and effort to talk about Wenger - it shows only one thing, and that's Mourinho is a bored dickhead. Besides that, he lacks class ("I'll kill Chelsea") and his latest run in Chelsea makes Avram look like a genius.
All Mourniho is good at is supressing creative players; I will really feel sorry for Robben if Jose moves to Real Madrid....
You should feel for Sjneider and Higuain too.:(
The only Good club with some class players and playing in champs league he might get would be well maybe Lyon(if the seriously want to improve from what they have)
Bammers05
09-03-2008, 13:10
You should feel for Sjneider and Higuain too.:(
Why?
Meyyappan
09-03-2008, 13:37
Why?
Well because sjneiders quite creative too while higuain i am not too sure off and gollan u were right of about that hleb-kaka affair.
Whilst going through some of last seasons posts during our bad time i found this.
And people say Arsenal arent a one man team?
To sum Arsenal up -
Lehmann is pants
Clichy isnt good enough
Gallas and Toure cant play together for some reason?
Senderos is dodgy
Hleb is shit
Rosicky isnt a left winger
Aliadere is shit
and you have one person who can score out of your whole squad HENRY.
The futures bright, the futures certainly not Arsenal
:laugh: :no: :laugh: :laugh:
He done well since his return
Clichy is surely in top 4 Lbs of the world
Of course they can.
Nope he isnt hes a class back-up,young and likely to improve
Yet to see about mozart pires had difficult first seasons too
Aliaderes sold
The future is bright,its red and white,its Arsenal
While u certainly arent the future predicting marvel.:laugh:
When an out-of-job, media artist of a manager, who blamed Wenger for being a "voyeur", is actually taking his time and effort to talk about Wenger - it shows only one thing, and that's Mourinho is a bored dickhead. Besides that, he lacks class ("I'll kill Chelsea") and his latest run in Chelsea makes Avram look like a genius.
All Mourniho is good at is supressing creative players; I will really feel sorry for Robben if Jose moves to Real Madrid....
I think that is a load of bullshit to be honest. You obviously didn't watch Robben when he was at Chelsea. Mourinho didn't hurt Robben, injuries and a weak mentality did.
Saying that, I miss Arjen a lot.
Predictions for the Wigan game?
Shut the fuck up moaninho.
There is a lot of truth in what Mourinho says though.
Don't give it out if you can't take it Cesc.
vanNistelrooy
09-03-2008, 17:45
We all know he's a cheat, he just doesn't get the comments made as much as the other divers/cheats do.
We all know he's a cheat, he just doesn't get the comments made as much as the other divers/cheats do.
I wouldn't go as far as calling him a cheat. But his attitude is very childish.
Viperized
09-03-2008, 17:59
Van Persie is our only attacking option on the bench.
We need a bit of a spark at the moment, and he could provide just that.
I'm not really liking the idea of both Gilberto and Flamini (too defensive combo) on the pitch together against Wigan, who are bringing 11 men behind the ball whenever we get the ball.
Viperized
09-03-2008, 18:57
For fucks sake. 2 points dropped - not that we deserve all three points. A lackluster performance by the team. And we're probably going to drop more points in the up coming weeks, especially by playing like this again.
The remaining fixtures are getting tougher and tougher for Arsenal. At least Toure and Van Persie are back.
somegooner
09-03-2008, 19:07
Urggh. Fucking Viperized being negative again. Go have some ice cream.
ThierryHenry14
09-03-2008, 19:09
He has the right seeing as we beat the current holders of the champions league yet we can't beat wigan...
somegooner
09-03-2008, 19:12
Man Utd will hopefully slip up again. There will only be one point or two between first and second.
ThierryHenry14
09-03-2008, 19:13
Against Derby i doubt it lol ......
mufcsean
09-03-2008, 19:43
Was really expecting you to batter them, luck really isn't on your side atm (leaguewise)
Keyser Soze
09-03-2008, 19:45
Luck is irrelevant, they were poor and Wigan could have even won it.
mufcsean
09-03-2008, 20:12
I meant with Injuries, etc
vanNistelrooy
09-03-2008, 20:13
Remember we've had our captain out for a year, a striker who had to retire and the glassman that is Louie Saha. Chelski have injuries too.
I think the whole Eduardo thing has knocked them for six and they haven't quite got over it yet, when they do, I think we'll all know.
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