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Keyser Soze

13-04-2008, 15:15

Hi,

I have just thought of something that may be good for the team. I have addressed this in an e-mail to Mr Wenger (TH14 gave me his e-mail address)

Hello Mr Wenger,

I am a proud follower of Arsenal FC and I have just thought of a possible line-up that may benefit the team.

Because Bakary Sagna is injured, and Emmanuel Eboue played at right back before Sagna, can't Eboue play at right back until Bakary returns ???

If that happened, then Kolo Toure and William Gallas could play together in the centre, this would make the defence a lot more tighter and stronger.

If Eboue played right-back, then Theo Walcott could play down the right wing. Theo is my favourite player and he did play very well against Liverpool in the Champions League. His individual run was incredible in the build up to the 2nd goal for us.

I hope you consider this possible line-up change. No matter what, I will be always behind the team and cheering on the Arsenal.

Best wishes,

Robert Berry,
Arsenal Supporter

What do you guys think ???

Please Discuss...
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/581/lollercoaster2bo9zwxw2.gif (http://imageshack.us)

I think you've just saved Wenger's season. He'll appreciate that; nice one.

vanNistelrooy

13-04-2008, 15:17

Yahoo/Eurosport always predict the squads before the game..

There usally quite accurate.
Lehmann starts, Senderos not in squad.

Chalk up a point for Yahoo and Eurosport for me, won't you?

ThierryHenry14

13-04-2008, 15:23

They've obviously changed it recently..

Arsenal team: Lehmann, Toure, Gallas, Song, Clichy, Eboue, Fabregas, Gilberto, Hleb, Van Persie, Adebayor.

Subs: Djourou, Fabianski, Bendtner, Hoyte, Walcott.

I wonder what has happened to Almunia and Sendores??

vanNistelrooy

13-04-2008, 15:24

I wonder what has happened to Almunia and Sendores??
Rightfully shot in the face I would imagine.

JoeyM

13-04-2008, 15:29

Keyser Soze

13-04-2008, 15:30

Song given a start in a game of this pressure. :huh: Bold decision. I'm a gooner from 4:00 until 6:00 today. I'd take a draw though.

JoeyM

13-04-2008, 15:42

Song dominated Stevie Me in the 6-3 last year, so hopefully he'll rise to the occasion again (although Baptista and Aliadiere were class as well, so it may just have been one of those 'once in a millennia when all of the planets align' occasions)

ThierryHenry14

13-04-2008, 15:47

Almuina and Sendores arent even on the bench??
Strange decision from Wenger..

somegooner

13-04-2008, 15:52

Almunia has a slight injury and Wenger doesn't want to risk him and Senderos needs some time alone after his fuck up.

ThierryHenry14

13-04-2008, 15:56

Hopefully Lehmann can prove what he is worth after he said this..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7340652.stm

wrigh2uk

13-04-2008, 15:57

Almunia has a slight injury and Wenger doesn't want to risk him and Senderos needs some time alone after his fuck up(s).

:cool: .......

JoeyM

13-04-2008, 15:57

Almuina and Sendores arent even on the bench??
Strange decision from Wenger..

More like great decision

ThierryHenry14

13-04-2008, 16:02

ARSENAL TEAM NEWS: So Jens Lehmann starts ahead of Almunia, who we understand to have a wrist injury although they have been rowing a lot recently. Alex Song comes in at centre back with Senderos dropped, Eboue in midfield and Van Persie starting alongside Adebayor.

somegooner

13-04-2008, 16:07

More like van Persie wide left.

wrigh2uk

13-04-2008, 16:28

Eboue starting again is just stupid

somegooner

13-04-2008, 16:44

He gets into good positions then :doh:!

JoeyM

13-04-2008, 17:02

Eboue's been fine so far.

somegooner

13-04-2008, 17:06

Relatively good. You mean.

CaptainCabinet

13-04-2008, 17:08

Fantastic defending.

50!

13-04-2008, 17:09

Arsenal make £3m profit for every home game they play?

They have £100m transfer budget for the summer?

Oh and they just scored.

nev1612

13-04-2008, 17:11

Handball!!

Guillermo

13-04-2008, 17:14

Handball!!

Gallas or Adebayor? :ninja:

nev1612

13-04-2008, 17:18

Gallas or Adebayor? :ninja:

I meant Adebayor but both now!! lol

Sully

13-04-2008, 17:32

Oh noes :crymore:

somegooner

13-04-2008, 17:33

Just when Lehmann won me over.

Joel

13-04-2008, 17:35

Just when Lehmann won me over.

Are you trying to say that the goal was Lehmann's fault?

Sully

13-04-2008, 17:36

Are you trying to say that the goal was Lehmann's fault?

Do you acually still bother reading his posts? He talks shit 95% of the time

Dragonfly

13-04-2008, 18:12

I know the chances of it happening are anorexic, but we still have a chance, mathematically.

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Lord Shrimpeh

13-04-2008, 18:12

I think any football fan feels a bit sorry for you gunners this season and I think today you probably should have got a draw. However at this top level it's all about defending leads and shutting games out and you've failed to do it. I think the end of this season you've lacked a bit of maturity (dare I say it, but what's new? :p)

Keyser Soze

13-04-2008, 18:17

^ How can you feel sorry for Arsenal? They had it all in their grasp so many times before, so many opportunities over the season. This game is the story of their season. It's their own fault.

I'm not even trying to be a wind-up merchant btw, because I'm almost as devastated as you lot are over this game. I know the chances of it happening are anorexic, but we still have a chance, mathematically.

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Ridiculous.

Dragonfly

13-04-2008, 18:20

Ridiculous.

Like you said in your own thread, "clutching at straws". I know it probably won't happen, but I will hope.

Keyser Soze

13-04-2008, 18:24

Like you said in your own thread, "clutching at straws". I know it probably won't happen, but I will hope.
Well you're clutching very hard, I must say. You'd need us and United to drop a good numbers of points. You should put a quid on Arsenal to win the league, you'll probably become a millionaire if it comes off.

It's a shame though, I'd have liked to see it be a three-horse race right down to the end of the season.

Dundon's

13-04-2008, 19:20

I know we can play but like the lad said above, we just can't see out games. A few extra players added in the summer and I think we'll be able to see out an entire season. Injuries and bad luck played a big part of it but a large share of our downfall has been our own doing.

I'm truly destroyed.

mufcsean

13-04-2008, 19:39

I bet Wenger is gutted he didn't check his e-mails before the game :rolleyes:

CaptainCabinet

13-04-2008, 19:42

I bet Wenger is gutted he didn't check his e-mails before the game :rolleyes:

:laugh: :laugh:

Stella Artois

13-04-2008, 20:07

How very gay.

JoeyM

13-04-2008, 20:28

Disappointing, but we just lack the quality in the final third at the moment. I thought it was a fairly good away performance considering the circumstances.

Well done to Mad Jens, showing the difference between a good keeper and an average one.

mufcsean

13-04-2008, 20:29

How many bookings has he recieved in his Arsenal career?

Viperized

13-04-2008, 20:38

I'm not bothered by the defeat because we were out of the title race quite a while ago.

Gilberto was surprisingly good but did make a few rash challenges. Lehmann made some very good stops but couldn't do anything about the penalty and freekick, and can't be blamed - both set pieces were perfectly placed and no keeper in the world would've saved them. Hleb was class and Cesc was decent. Eboue is a waste of space.

We played fairly well in stretches bar the horrendous finishing from Adebayor. I was surprised at the fact we created many chances and we should've won the game based on the number of opportunities we had to be honest.

I didn't like the fact Wenger decided to play players out of position AGAIN. This time he decided to use Van Persie as a left winger. A complete waste of his talents.

Its shocking how we seemingly have no ability to hold on the lead when scoring first.

AgentZero

14-04-2008, 01:28

Now mr Stella i think you sha'll make an additional tagline to your sig as i have had this humiliating once for about 2 and a half seasons..we've beaten you in the league and now its your turn...(Manchester United > Arsenal)

Nturtle

14-04-2008, 10:06

Well...no need to bash each other guys...even Fergie enjoyed the match and was a bit nice about it. It was a cracking first half I thought....shame the Manu goals were set pieces...quality free kick...can't do much about that...

Let's see how Wenger plays the transfers...I'm looking forward to a few quality signings to push the youngsters a bit...and to Vela coming on board potentially.

Viperized

14-04-2008, 10:46

Wenger said he will sign 'one experienced player'.

That experienced player is said to be a defender.

somegooner

14-04-2008, 11:33

Marcelo Bordon. He's the experianced player.

Joel

14-04-2008, 13:50

Thuram will be a free agent this summer...

Miggy

14-04-2008, 13:53

Thuram will be a free agent this summer...

:laugh:

Usul

14-04-2008, 15:07

Take him, please. We'll throw in Gudjohnsen, as a bonus.

The Phenom

14-04-2008, 16:18

Have a read of this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A34604039

Viperized

14-04-2008, 16:26

Eboue plays for Utd:
http://101greatgoals.magnify.net/item/PKSKP3QPY70NH8SF

somegooner

14-04-2008, 18:25

Take him, please. We'll throw in Gudjohnsen, as a bonus.

But you have to take Eboué and Senderos. AND you have to pay Flamini's wages. AND you have to buy us some players. Good players.

RB14 ARSENAL

14-04-2008, 18:48

Marcelo Bordon. He's the experianced player.

Who????

Am I the only Gooner who hasn't heard of this guy

vanNistelrooy

14-04-2008, 18:51

Who????

Am I the only Gooner who hasn't heard of this guy
That isn't his name, they just don't want other managers snapping him up before he can sign him, so they use an anagram of his name; which is actually "Laborer Condom".

nickpring

14-04-2008, 18:54

Who????

Am I the only Gooner who hasn't heard of this guy

He's a defender who currently plays for Schalke in Germany.

ThierryHenry14

14-04-2008, 20:16

Dear Supporter,

I believe we played with quality and spirit at Old Trafford on Sunday and were unlucky to lose the game.

I never felt under pressure from Manchester United and I believe defensively we played quite well. We lost on a penalty - that you can give or not give but we are used to that now - and on a free-kick when Gilberto did not touch their player. I believe these two decisions made a big difference. We have to take it but overall I am proud of my team.

There was very little between success and failure this season. We have to accept that we will not win the title and that is hard to swallow. But we do not feel that there is a difference technically and collectively between us and Chelsea and Manchester United.

We have to continue to produce the football we produce because we will not always be unlucky. We played well at Liverpool and again on Sunday. With all the bad things that have gone against us we needed to be exceptionally strong to produce a performance like we did against United.

I am confident about our future because we have the quality and we are young. I have worked with this team for a long time now and people don't know what that means.

For example Alex Song played on Sunday. It is two years ago since I bought him and he played in a massive game against Manchester United and showed that he has exceptional quality. He was not like that two years ago. We want to be rewarded for the quality we have.

It's true that our confidence has dropped recently. In the last two months we have gone through a difficult period. You cannot fault our spirit because that has been exceptional, but when you get knock after knock it is difficult to take.

Thanks for your support.

vanNistelrooy

14-04-2008, 23:34

I never felt under pressure from Manchester United and I believe defensively we played quite well. We lost on a penalty - that you can give or not give but we are used to that now - and on a free-kick when Gilberto did not touch their player. I believe these two decisions made a big difference. We have to take it but overall I am proud of my team.
Classic Wenger.

Dundon's

15-04-2008, 09:38

Leave it out fella will ya? It's all right for some, buying trophies every season. If you had to deal with some of the decisions we got hit with over the last 8 weeks you'd be bitter too.

Miggy

15-04-2008, 09:41

Let's face it Wenger made a boobie by not signing anyone in January. Your lack of depth in the squad has caught up with you at the most important time of the season. Injuries haven't helped.

vanNistelrooy

15-04-2008, 10:36

Leave it out fella will ya? It's all right for some, buying trophies every season. If you had to deal with some of the decisions we got hit with over the last 8 weeks you'd be bitter too.
I would be bitter, but I wouldn't be a twat like it like Wenger is. I hope he gets slapped with a fine like Fergie did, as he deserves it.

You've got enough money to buy experienced players, but if your manager wants to continue to play kids who still need time to mature then it's hardly anyone elses fault you fucked up. Blame the dodgy decisions all you want, but if you had players with the stature as Wright, Bergkamp, Henry, Pires etc you'd most likely still be sitting pretty at the top of the league.

AgentZero

15-04-2008, 10:57

Let's face it Wenger made a boobie by not signing anyone in January. Your lack of depth in the squad has caught up with you at the most important time of the season. Injuries haven't helped.
quoted in agreement. That game in the FA cup was where id liek to say the dip in form started, that or Adebayor having a samsonesque effect on the team when he chopped his locks off.

Jonny2J

15-04-2008, 11:13

Sully

15-04-2008, 11:27

Are you suprised? They only liike to talk about when decisions go against them

AgentZero

15-04-2008, 11:37

anyways...i can see Wenger buying J.Menez in the future. He looks like hed suit their style. Thoughts? would you lot wlecome Menez?

Meyyappan

15-04-2008, 12:36

There is still reason to cheer for................we have learned a massive lot...... the squad if lemons staying no correction in the gk department,whereas in the cbs:senderos,toure,gallas,song ,djourou........Hmm i am fairly pleased and wenger said he didnt want to undo years of work.........now to the sbs:

Convert eboue back to right back,sagna,clichy,tarore-got huge talent,hes also a confidence player so we should leave him all cup games to make him improve............Thats good there

Cmfs:Fabregas,Diaby,denilson,f lamini seems like gilbertos leaving we can manage.............

Wingers:Helb,rosicky,Vela-from what i have heard and seen he the top class talent of likes of nani,fabregas,tevez,c.ronaldo

NOW WE REALLY NEED ONE WINGER MORE

CFS:Adebayor-Has talent but far to wasteful,sunday he could have killed the game and bring us back in title race but hmmmmmmmmm.................... .............................. ...........,Rvp,Walcott-Needs a final year,bendtner-he felt he should have been ahead of ade and put unnecessary pressure on himself,wenger rates him highly but needs some more time,Eduardo-If he had played against united he would have killed the game but we dont know if he can fully recover and become what he was plus he shall be absent for like 60% of the next season.

My assesment need one more winger and a class striker due to eduardos absence meanwhile we shouldt stress the guy while making his return

So Wenger has already promised us one experienced,class player so hopefully it is either striker or winger

We should get Ben Arfa if possible for cover,a fernando torres could have saved our season so we shouldnt hesitate and buy benzema or aguero,splash the cash man we cant wait for ade to score one out of 5 chances delivered to him on a silver platter.......

And vela can play as striker,ss as well........

If we come back like the invincibles did we can storm the league and if we do things i think we should we can certainly bring silverware(guarenteed) home

If only dudu hadnt suffered that injury and as arsene said WE HAVE TO KEEP THIS SQUAD TOGETHER

AND I DONT KNOW WHY OUR PLAYERS ALWAYS TAKE LONGER TO RETURN FROM INJURY

Dundon's

15-04-2008, 12:45

I noticed how you never mentioned the handball in that comment like.

You sicken me.

RB14 ARSENAL

15-04-2008, 15:53

From BBC gossip collumn (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/gossip_and_transfers/7347811.stm)

Arsenal want to sign 6ft 5ins Brazilian goalkeeper Heurelho Gomes from PSV Eindhoven for £12m. (Sun)

I would happily take him, he's a top keeper. Also He knocked Spurs out of UEFA Cup :tongue:

Rambo

15-04-2008, 15:59

Good keeper but can be very clumsy at times..

Definitely Maybe

15-04-2008, 16:06

I noticed how you never mentioned the handball in that comment like.

Or the fact that the standard of refereeing has been shocking this year and every team has been on the end of terrible decisions

RB14 ARSENAL

15-04-2008, 16:07

Good keeper but can be very clumsy at times..

Still....

Gomes >>>> Lehmann & Fabianski

Dunno about Almunia...Manuel has been quality this year

Keyser Soze

15-04-2008, 16:26

Gomes is world-class imo.

somegooner

15-04-2008, 16:52

Fabianski is still young but I can't see him staying long. Wenger likes his keepers to be 30 ish. He will probably get impatient.

Rambo

15-04-2008, 16:52

Still....

Gomes >>>> Lehmann & Fabianski

Dunno about Almunia...Manuel has been quality this year

By a country mile, one of the best keepers around. Whether Wenger decides to splash the cash is another matter.

somegooner

15-04-2008, 16:54

Wenger said that he's not afraid to buy Ronaldinho. I'm getting scared. But then again, he might resurect his career like he did with Henry and a few others.

wrigh2uk

15-04-2008, 17:37

Wenger said that he's not afraid to buy Ronaldinho. I'm getting scared. But then again, he might resurect his career like he did with Henry and a few others.

More chance of us signing C.Ronaldo than that binge drinking has been.

Zoolander

15-04-2008, 18:02

http://g.photos.cx/arsena_zoolander_animation1-d2.gif

Barry

15-04-2008, 18:04

Gomes is world-class imo.

He is. If it weren't for him PSV would up shit creek without a paddle. Dunga is a cunt for not selecting him.

wrigh2uk

15-04-2008, 18:05

http://g.photos.cx/arsena_zoolander_animation1-d2.gif

Look at Wenger Go:shocking:

Dragonfly

15-04-2008, 18:10

http://g.photos.cx/arsena_zoolander_animation1-d2.gif

:lol: That is brilliant!

Viperized

15-04-2008, 18:45

Still....

Gomes >>>> Lehmann & Fabianski

Dunno about Almunia...Manuel has been quality this year
Almunia hasn't exactly been brilliant this season.

Lehmann has shown why he still is a better keeper than Almunia on Sunday.

Gomes would be a very good signing but at £12m seems a bit expensive.

Guillermo

15-04-2008, 18:50

Surely you could get Akinfeev at 12m? Not that I want you to. :shifty:

Jonny2J

15-04-2008, 18:59

Almunia hasn't exactly been brilliant this season.

Lehmann has shown why he still is a better keeper than Almunia on Sunday.

Gomes would be a very good signing but at £12m seems a bit expensive.But for £12 million you have to think of his age, you could get years out of him.

Keyser Soze

15-04-2008, 19:09

But for £12 million you have to think of his age, you could get years out of him.
Precisely.

mufcsean

15-04-2008, 20:31

£12 for Gomes is a fucking bargain if you ask me

Jonny2J

15-04-2008, 20:50

You sicken me.My point still stands.

Miggy

15-04-2008, 20:51

From the praise Gomes gets from Barry he must be something special.

Dundon's

15-04-2008, 21:04

Or the fact that the standard of refereeing has been shocking this year and every team has been on the end of terrible decisions

All I can do is speak on behalf of my team, hence me posting in the Arsenal thread. We got screwed out of a place in the champions league semi finals, simple as.

vanNistelrooy

15-04-2008, 21:06

If you'd played well enough you wouldn't need to look back on these decisions, as you would have won the game regardless.

I felt the same after the Pompey game, but I eventually came round to the fact that if we'd put our chances away, and played a bit better we wouldn't have to look back and moan about the penalty that wasn't.

Keyser Soze

15-04-2008, 21:10

Dundon's, poor show man. Sometimes you need to take it on the chin and stop making excuses. It happens to everyone. £12 for Gomes is a fucking bargain if you ask me
£12 is, indeed, a fucking bargain for a professional goalkeeper. You can just about get a t-shirt for that nowadays. ;)

Miggy

15-04-2008, 21:12

£12 is, indeed, a fucking bargain for a professional goalkeeper. You can just about get a t-shirt for that nowadays. ;)

:D

Definitely Maybe

15-04-2008, 21:57

All I can do is speak on behalf of my team, hence me posting in the Arsenal thread. We got screwed out of a place in the champions league semi finals, simple as.

Other teams have had decisions go against them

Other teams have had injuries

Ultimately it was Wenger's decision not to buy in January that has cost you. Everybody predicted you would struggle to last the season, and you were left with a brilliant but small and burnt out squad.

Dundon's

15-04-2008, 23:37

I agree with everything you just posted, but 2 bad decisions alone cost us in that champions league tie with Liverpool.

That is my point.

Usul

16-04-2008, 03:10

http://g.photos.cx/arsena_zoolander_animation1-d2.gif
:laugh:

That's the finest GIF i have ever layed eyes on.

Wan

16-04-2008, 07:55

http://g.photos.cx/arsena_zoolander_animation1-d2.gif

:laugh: Damn great!

Joel

16-04-2008, 09:31

Villa Open To Gunners Switch
Spanish striker feels he could adapt to life at the Emirates

David Villa has revealed that, should he move to England, Arsenal would be his preferred destination.

With the Valencia striker insinuating that he may call time on his career at the Mestalla over the summer there is likely to be a whole host of clubs fighting for his signature.

He has netted 63 times in just three seasons for Los Che, making him one of the most feared forwards in world football.

Chelsea are known to be one his many admirers, with Avram Grant believed to have already enquired as to the Spanish hitman's availability.

However, Villa appears to have dashed the Blues' hopes of taking him to Stamford Bridge by revealing that he would rather be a Gunner.

"I watch the Premier League a lot and the team I'm most attracted to is definitely Arsenal," he told The Sun.

"Their brilliant one and two-touch football and the whole style of rapid counter-attack which dominates the top level of the Premier League now is the one which suits my game best of all.

"I think I'm made to succeed in England but of course it's one thing saying it and quite another getting there and then doing it.

"The Valencia president (Agustin Morera) always told me he wouldn't sell me until summer 2008. If an offer comes in I'm hungry to test myself in England."

Should a move to Emirates Stadium not materialise, Villa admitted that he would be equally happy to join up with his international team-mate Fernando Torres at Liverpool.

"It's great playing alongside Fernando," he said.

"We understand each other totally and we get on brilliantly off the park."

Source (http://msnsport.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3430194,00.html)

It'd be great to have him in the Premier League. He'd probably cost over £20m, but I think he'd be excellent at Arsenal.

wrigh2uk

16-04-2008, 11:45

I'd love too see him with us next season, but i don't see its happening

Viperized

16-04-2008, 17:28

Source (http://msnsport.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3430194,00.html)

It'd be great to have him in the England League. He'd probably cost over £20m, but I think he'd be excellent at Arsenal.
Would be a SUPERB signing, but Villa can keep dreaming. There is no way Wenger will break the bank for him.

"The Gunners are also on the trail of Guimaraes' Algeria striker Kamel Ghilas. (Daily Mail)"

Typical. :laugh:

But Arsenal will also have Vela returning next season, giving Eduardo, Van Persie, Adebayor, Bendtner and Vela.

The first two will probably spend two-thirds of their season injured though.

Can you really depend on Adebayor and Bendtner? Vela will take time to adjust and is unproven. Bendtner has not had a good season at all and I don't think he fits in particularly well. Has scored a few goals, but that doesn't dismiss his less than average performances.

wrigh2uk

16-04-2008, 19:09

I seriously doubt Adebayor will have this sort of season again, he just had Benjani syndrome which quickly wore off second half of the season, as it does.

But I can't wait to see Vela come into the fold and maybe next season Fran :w00t

Ghost

16-04-2008, 20:46

Would be a SUPERB signing, but Villa can keep dreaming. There is no way Wenger will break the bank for him.

"The Gunners are also on the trail of Guimaraes' Algeria striker Kamel Ghilas. (Daily Mail)"
Typical. :laugh:

But Arsenal will also have Vela returning next season, giving Eduardo, Van Persie, Adebayor, Bendtner and Vela.

The first two will probably spend two-thirds of their season injured though.

Can you really depend on Adebayor and Bendtner? Vela will take time to adjust and is unproven. Bendtner has not had a good season at all and I don't think he fits in particularly well. Has scored a few goals, but that doesn't dismiss his less than average performances.

The kid has some talent but I highly doubt that he has what it takes to succeed at Arsenal.

mufcsean

16-04-2008, 23:09

David Villa would be brilliant at Arsenal, would fit in to their system brilliantly, better than seeing him at Chelsea anarl

Definitely Maybe

17-04-2008, 16:30

I agree with everything you just posted, but 2 bad decisions alone cost us in that champions league tie with Liverpool.

That is my point.

We were robbed on Saturday against Man City - Keith Hackett actually phoned Keane and told him the penalty never should have been given.

We've been robbed of countless decisions this season - the winner at home to Villa, Reading's winner against us, Chopra's disallowed goal at Derby being the main ones. Some (such as the ones mentioned) directly cost us points, other decisions didn't directly but have changed games.

It's shit that it's happened to you in such a huge match (for the record I thought Babel's was a penalty), but it happens. You can't pick and choose when to have decisions go against you.

vanNistelrooy

17-04-2008, 19:23

We were robbed on Saturday against Man City - Keith Hackett actually phoned Keane and told him the penalty never should have been given.

We've been robbed of countless decisions this season - the winner at home to Villa, Reading's winner against us, Chopra's disallowed goal at Derby being the main ones. Some (such as the ones mentioned) directly cost us points, other decisions didn't directly but have changed games.

It's shit that it's happened to you in such a huge match (for the record I thought Babel's was a penalty), but it happens. You can't pick and choose when to have decisions go against you.
Whoa, calm down Dundons!

Dragonfly

18-04-2008, 00:35

How about a new poll - 'Who Should Be Captain'?

Options:

Gallas
Toure
Flamini
Fabregas

Zoolander

18-04-2008, 00:39

2 of those won't be there next season. :shifty:

AgentZero

18-04-2008, 00:45

gallas gets my vote. On the david villa front, he could come in the same circumstances reyes did an initial 12M with 8 to be payed later on, but thats the most i expect wenger to fork out.

Dragonfly

18-04-2008, 00:51

I'd love to have Villa. I think he's an excellent player. It would be good to rotate between him, RVP and Adebayor.

On the captaincy front, I'd like to see Flamini have a shot at it. He seems vocal and leads through example, plus he seems more mature this season. Wenger seems to give the captaincy to players that, allegedly, are on the verge of leaving the club, but that wouldn't be the case now (I mean that wouldn't be his reason for changing captain).

wrigh2uk

18-04-2008, 17:26

SSN says when in for Amauri aswell, i'd far rather have Villa to be honest

Bammers05

18-04-2008, 17:50

It would seem the David Villa move isn't going to happen.

Arsène Wenger was pleased to hear David Villa compliment his team but he is not making a move for the Valencia striker.

This week the 26-year-old was quoted as saying Arsenal's attractive style of play made Emirates Stadium his preferred destination. The Spaniard is hot property at the moment with a healthy record of 51 goals in 95 games for his club and 13 in 30 for his country. Despite that, Wenger ruled out a move in the summer.

On the contrary, the Frenchman believes goalscoring has not been a problem for his side this term and his improving young strikers need room to grow.

"We are not in the transfer market for David Villa," said Wenger at his pre-match press conference. "He has said some very complimentary things about us which we take as a big honour. I rate him highly as a player but I will not make concrete investigations for anyone at the moment."

The manager went on: "I feel up front I need to give time to Walcott and Bendtner because they have made big improvement for me this season. Theo is coming on so I need to give them a chance or they will not come out."

In fact, the Arsenal manager argues goal-scoring is not where his side need strengthening. It is more the other end of the pitch that has been his concern.

"We were leading at Chelsea, Liverpool and Man United plus we were leading at home against Liverpool," he said. "So we can score goals. What we could not stop is conceding goals in big games.

"You know that nine times out of 10 the team that wins the big games is the team who scores first. But we lost these games after being in front. We suffered more as a team defensively rather than offensively."

Source (http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=490460&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Wenger+-+I+am+not+in+the+market+for+Da vid+Villa)

somegooner

18-04-2008, 18:30

Sometimes he surprises us though.

Viperized

18-04-2008, 20:21

It would seem the David Villa move isn't going to happen.

Source (http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=490460&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Wenger+-+I+am+not+in+the+market+for+Da vid+Villa)
Goalscoring is still a bit of a problem actually.

We miss far too many chances. Goals win games.

Jake Small

18-04-2008, 20:54

You are pretty much fine for strikers though, compared to the rest of the team. I doubt that you'll have quite as many injuries in that area next year and all of your strikers are pretty much on the brink of stepping up their game to top class levels...

An injury to someone like Flamini, or in CB, would destroy you atm though.

Zoolander

18-04-2008, 22:31

How about a new poll - 'Who Should Be Captain'?

Options:

Gallas
Toure
Flamini
Fabregas

Poll added. State who you think the other should be.

Dundon's

19-04-2008, 04:56

To be totally honest I don't know who I'd give it to off that list. Might have to be Kolo, saying that I'm not sure Wenger would give it to him considering he was already over looked for some reason.

Not Gallas anyways.

somegooner

19-04-2008, 06:18

Touré captained us really well when Gallas was missing at the start of the season.I'd want him to captain us.

Miggy

19-04-2008, 07:58

Just curious. Robinho isn't happy at the moment, you guys were interested in him before he went there. Would you be interested in seeing him at Arsenal?

somegooner

19-04-2008, 08:48

I would want him. Real won't sell him though.

Viperized

19-04-2008, 12:26

Gallas should remain captain. The media portray him has a total cunt, but he isn't. Perhaps he has made some mistakes this season, but its not like it would've changed the outcome of our season had he not (i.e. going to the centre of the pitch when Clichy fouled the Birmingham player in the box) - he just has that winning mentality and experience. Have a listen to some of his interviews on the Arsenal site - you'll see why I'd like him to remain as captain.

Toure is too much of a nice guy. Fabregas is too young. I don't know why Flamini is being mentioned. Having a good season doesn't mean you should automatically become a captain.

Nifty1Pound50

19-04-2008, 12:32

An injury to someone like Flamini, or in CB, would destroy you

And how it showed against Liverpool in the second leg.

The media portray him has a total cunt, but he isn't.

What the media, surprisingly, haven't portrayed is that he has in actual fact been carried by Touré for much of the season. He hasn't actually performed that well.

somegooner

19-04-2008, 12:47

Mannone on the bench?? Is Fabianski injured??

Definitely Maybe

19-04-2008, 13:18

somegooner

19-04-2008, 13:26

Gilberto took a shot from outside the box and scored. :huh:

Miggy

19-04-2008, 13:27

The modern day captain isn't about shouting and balling like in times past, it's about setting an example for the rest of the team. What example does huffing off after conceding a penalty give?

Totally agree. You want someone who the other players can look to when the going get tough.

Wan

19-04-2008, 13:38

Gilberto took a shot from outside the box and scored. :huh:

Bikey deflected it though. ;)

ThierryHenry14

19-04-2008, 13:39

By sound of it we should be winning by more than 2 goals to nill..

RB14 ARSENAL

19-04-2008, 14:15

Finally, the ref favours us :happy:

anyone else see Hleb's slap on Murty ?

somegooner

19-04-2008, 14:19

He will get banned though.
Cracking free kick. Unlucky hat it wasn't in.

Ronaldo_is_fat

20-04-2008, 03:18

From now on, I don't see how Eboue will still start ahead of Walcott.

Wan

20-04-2008, 08:40

He will start if Walcott is injured.

wrigh2uk

20-04-2008, 13:16

Reading in the news of the world saying that Henry wants to come back to the prem preferably London. I would feel utterly betrayed by the guy if he went to any of the other top 3 clubs or Spurs.

somegooner

20-04-2008, 14:23

He might join Millwall. :mellow:

Probably West Ham, seeing as most of our players go there. (Wright, Ljungberg, Upson, Boa Morte, the other Wright...)

Dundon's

20-04-2008, 17:10

ThierryHenry14

20-04-2008, 17:14

I could of sworn he said once he left Arsenal he wouldn't play for another premiership team..

Maybe he will go to the MLS...

RB14 ARSENAL

20-04-2008, 17:20

I'd try join Liverpool if I was Henry. I know he already has massive respect for the club and besides that they can offer him champions league football.

Now if Liverpool need or want him is another thing.

Didnt he once say, that if there was one team he would want to play for except Arsenal, it was Liverpool.

He once said their fans are terrific and atmosphere at Anfield is electric.

Can anyone please back it up by providing a link,

somegooner

20-04-2008, 17:26

I don't want him back in England. He doesm't deserve Liverpool. I want to see him at another big club playing up front and not wide on the left. I wonder what he could do in the MLS though.

mufcsean

20-04-2008, 17:27

Reading in the news of the world saying that Henry wants to come back to the prem preferably London. I would feel utterly betrayed by the guy if he went to any of the other top 3 clubs or Spurs.

QPR will have a £25m transfer kitty apparently :erm:

Sully

20-04-2008, 17:28

Didnt he once say, that if there was one team he would want to play for except Arsenal, it was Liverpool.

He once said their fans are terrific and atmosphere at Anfield is electric.

Can anyone please back it up by providing a link,

Aye

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Yossi

20-04-2008, 17:47

Aye

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How do you actually close that window?

Sully

20-04-2008, 17:51

Dunno, page works normally on my browser

ThierryHenry14

20-04-2008, 17:51

You arsehole Sully
:banplz:

Yossi

20-04-2008, 17:54

Dunno, page works normally on my browser

Never mind, I've got it.

somegooner

20-04-2008, 17:56

How do you actually close that window?

Just keep pressing OK.

Yossi

20-04-2008, 18:03

Just keep pressing OK.

Holding Enter is much faster.

Nturtle

21-04-2008, 07:28

LOL...

Hleb will probably get a ban or something...no need for that kind of thing.

Good to see Walcott being more imposing...and he needed to have a good game to demonstrate he's not just an impact player. VP will probably be fit for the Euros...lol...

It's funny how we are looking at transfers before the season has finished...but then again...we look to be too far back to catch Chelsea for 2nd.

I'd like some kind of focus on Wingers and width, and a quality CB or two. Clichy and Sagna I think are pretty damn good...but our defense needs more of a Vidic/Ferdinand bond and robustness.

Wan

21-04-2008, 08:11

2 new CBs will be fine.
Who's good instead of Gallas and Toure?
And they are no where as good as Ferdinand/Vidic and a bit off from Terry/Carvalho.

Dundon's

21-04-2008, 11:13

I'm not too sure they can't work well together, we really fell to pieces at the back when Sagna came off against Chelsea and never recovered. I'd just try add some more quality to the bench in general, I'm happy enough with the back 4 when they're all fit and playing together.

P.S. Heard Cygan is in great form, maybe Arsene has a 1st option on him. :ninja:

mufcsean

21-04-2008, 11:55

Dundon's

21-04-2008, 17:02

Was kinda joking fella.

Viperized

21-04-2008, 21:28

Hleb is going to leave Arsenal this summer.

http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=490509&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Wenger+-+Our+potential+should+keep+Hle b+here

Doesn't sound too convincing. Whats more is that I doubt Wenger will replace him. He never replaced Reyes, never replaced Edu, never replaced Ljungberg, so I can't see it happening. He'll probably put his faith in the ever so brilliant double-E.
I'm not too sure they can't work well together, we really fell to pieces at the back when Sagna came off against Chelsea and never recovered. I'd just try add some more quality to the bench in general, I'm happy enough with the back 4 when they're all fit and playing together.

P.S. Heard Cygan is in great form, maybe Arsene has a 1st option on him. :ninja:
Sagna has been very good in every game has played so far. We have definitely missed him.

Usul

22-04-2008, 07:50

Hleb is going to leave Arsenal this summer.

http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=490509&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Wenger+-+Our+potential+should+keep+Hle b+here

Doesn't sound too convincing. Whats more is that I doubt Wenger will replace him. He never replaced Reyes, never replaced Edu, never replaced Ljungberg, so I can't see it happening. He'll probably put his faith in the ever so brilliant double-E.
"You can go to Real Madrid and Barcelona, but you have no more guarantees to win trophies. And from this season we should get the belief we can win trophies and come back to win the title."

He's got more chances of winning la Liga and/or Copa title, in either of those clubs, than winning the league and/or Cup with Arsenal.

I read a week ago that Barcelona is interested in him as a replacement for Deco. He's probably one of the few men that could fill that void.

Tigermen

22-04-2008, 11:45

"You can go to Real Madrid and Barcelona, but you have no more guarantees to win trophies. And from this season we should get the belief we can win trophies and come back to win the title."

He's got more chances of winning la Liga and/or Copa title, in either of those clubs, than winning the league and/or Cup with Arsenal.

I read a week ago that Barcelona is interested in him as a replacement for Deco. He's probably one of the few men that could fill that void.

I think that's mainly because Barca and Madrid don't have a third team to compete with (I would say Chelsea, but actually I think I'd have to reluctantly admit that Man U and Chelsea are the teams to beat and Arsenal are the third team).

Not trying to rile you or anything, but it's a disgrace that two teams as poor as Madrid and Barca have been this season are the ones who have, for the main part at least, been the ones battling for the title. Madrid have lost 7 games for fucks sake and are still 10 points better off than their nearest rivals.

I wonder if all the people complaining about our season realise that elsewhere in Europe, teams such as Barcelona are sitting on 61 points. Given Madrid's inconsistency Arsenal are likely to finish 3rd and still have more points than they do. So it doesn't really paint a complete picture when you say he has more chance of winning the league at Barca/Madrid than he does at Arsenal.

Keyser Soze

22-04-2008, 15:07

Hleb's been charged with violent conduct, could well miss the rest of your season now.

somegooner

22-04-2008, 16:11

SHIT!!! We have no wingers. That means we have to play you know who.... Eboué

Expected line up:
-----------------------Lehmann-------------------------
--Touré---------Gallas--------Song----------Clichy---
--Eboué--------Fabregas-----Gilberto------Walcott---
----------------Adebayor-----Van Persie---------------

Alternatively we can play RvP on the left, Walcott on the right, and Bendtner upfront. Or we can play Denìlson on the left (he played there against Reading) and move Walcott to the right. Or we can play Denìlson centrally and Fabregas on the right. Or we can play Mark Randall or Nacer Barazite on the right. I really want to see Barazite play; I hear that he's really good. Or, once again, we can play Traoré wide left since he's playing there for the reserves and keep Walcott on the right.

Dragonfly

22-04-2008, 16:21

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3460048,00.html

I'd be gutted if he went.

Keyser Soze

22-04-2008, 17:01

It'd be interesting to see how much teams are prepared to pay for him, because he's clearly an important first-team member to Arsenal.

Dragonfly

22-04-2008, 17:05

I think he'd be able to go on a free Bosman to whichever club offers him the best contract. He's been incredible this season and we would have a job trying to find a replacement. I hope he signs a new contract sharpish!

Dundon's

22-04-2008, 18:00

Looks like we're in for another summer of this bullshit again. Christ I'm sick of it.

Dragonfly

22-04-2008, 18:14

This will probably sound like a dig at Wenger, but he'll probably agree to stay if he's made captain.

somegooner

22-04-2008, 18:14

Loic Perrin. Is he any good??

Dragonfly

22-04-2008, 18:18

He's the next big thing.

ThierryHenry14

22-04-2008, 18:19

I had a dream that Fabregas was the captain..

mufcsean

22-04-2008, 18:21

Send Wenger an e-mail telling him, maybe it will come true

:coffee:

Bammers05

22-04-2008, 18:23

:laugh:

Miggy

22-04-2008, 18:40

Send Wenger an e-mail telling him, maybe it will come true

:coffee:

Hahaha. That's got to be one of your wittiest post I've seen. :laugh:

Viperized

22-04-2008, 19:31

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_3458743,00.html

Walcott has recently stated his discontent (not just this article, there are a few more) at not playing often in the first team like many other English youngsters who were previously at the club...

Can someone please tell him to shut the fuck up and wait? He is 18 years old and he expects to start. You are unlikely to find someone under 20 years of age starting week in week out for a top club. He definitely deserves to start over Eboue though but shouldn't be complaining to the media.

mufcsean

22-04-2008, 19:33

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_3458743,00.html

Walcott has recently stated his discontent (not just this article, there are a few more) at not playing often in the first team like many other English youngsters who were previously at the club...

Can someone please tell him to shut the fuck up and wait for his chance? He is 18 years old and he expects to start. You are unlikely to find someone under 20 years of age starting week in week out for a top club. He definitely deserves to start over Eboue though.

Make your mind up, maybe somebody should tell you to shut the fuck up.

I'd be disappointed if Eboue was starting over me aswell

RB14 ARSENAL

24-04-2008, 11:40

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/7353306.stm

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^

Interesting article there, showing the difference between Henry at Arsenal and Henry at Barcelona.

somegooner

24-04-2008, 17:37

Didn't someone already post that somewhere??

RB14 ARSENAL

24-04-2008, 18:26

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3468505,00.html

Internazionale coach Roberto Mancini has confirmed Arsenal ace Alexander Hleb is one of his summer transfer targets.

:no:

I don't want him to leave.

What does everyone else think, do u want him to stay or go ?

Guillermo

24-04-2008, 19:41

What does everyone else think, do u want him to stay or go ?

I don't think any Arsenal fan will want him to go.

wrigh2uk

24-04-2008, 20:45

Hleb won't leave

Viperized

24-04-2008, 21:39

I'm pretty sure he will leave. It doesn't sound too convincing that he will stay when Wenger spoke about him.

And my biggest fear is that Wenger will not replace him, like he didn't replaced Reyes, like he didn't replace Ljungberg, and like he didn't replace Edu (not that we need a midfielder now, but initially he didn't and were weak in the middle).

pistolpete

25-04-2008, 19:14

Personally i quite like the guy i think he is a good player, he is excellent around the edge of the box with defenders around him but he hardy ever shoots, and when he does he swings his left at it?

Also he quite often gives it away sloppy, i have noticed a few times recently he has tried to do a no look pass to Clichy on the outside of him way too early when Clichy hadnt started his run - and when other people lose the ball cheap he does a little tantrum stamp.

If he is considering going then just go, we get this every summer, just make your mind up now and go if you want to.

If he does go it is very important that he is replaced with someone proven, for me Quaresma or Ribery.

By the way same goes for Flamini.

Joel

25-04-2008, 19:22

pistolpete

25-04-2008, 19:33

In Arsene we trust.

At Avram we laugh.

Joel

25-04-2008, 19:50

Yeah, I'm sure you do. It still doesn't change the fact that Wenger doesn't go for players of that reputation.

pistolpete

25-04-2008, 20:02

Yeah, I'm sure you do. It still doesn't change the fact that Wenger doesn't go for players of that reputation.

Sol Campbell, Rosicky, Gallas.

Ok i know there arent many more but its not beyond him

He will do whatever he wants.

Meyyappan

26-04-2008, 18:43

Arsenal For Champions!
26 04 2008

Well, my hope has been renewed after the very recent defeat of Manchester United to Chelsea. We are still in the title race.

Call me crazy, say I’m just setting myself up for the fall, but fuck it. I support Arsenal F.C and we’ve over come bigger odds in the past.

I don’t like the attitude that’s been infecting us lately. “Oh, Sagna is out for the rest of the season. Fuck it, we have nothing to play for. ” Things like that affected our attendance at the Reading game.

Well, it’s not fucking true so I urge all you Arse supporters to join me in being that extra bit needed for the final push.

No one thought we could do it in ‘89. Guess what? We fucking did!

Yeah, it’s going to hurt if we don’t do it, and less face it, the odds are not on our side but if we don’t believe, we will win fuck all. Imagine the elation if we win the league. After all the injuries, the unjust decision and the frustrations. To come through it all as Champions would be pure bliss. Bigger shocks have happened in the past.
Team P W D L F A W D L F A GD PTS
1 Man Utd 36 16 1 1 43 6 9 5 4 31 15 53 81
2 Chelsea 36 12 6 0 35 12 12 3 3 27 13 37 81
3 Arsenal 35 13 5 0 36 11 8 6 3 30 18 37 74

That is how the English England League Table stands at the moment. If we defeat Derby, we will be 4 points adrift with two games to go. Let’s face it, even in our weakened state, we should be able to defeat Derby.

I hope to hell that one of our players is making a similar speech in the dressing room at the moment. We need to fire the lads up, so let’s hope Wenger plays a strong side in our last few games.

All we need if for United and Chelsea to drop two points. Newcastle are on shit hot form and United always drop points to West Ham. Who’s to say that they will both collect all three points from these games. Especially as they both have the Champions League to worry about.

It’s not in our hands, we still have to beat Everton but it’s still possible isn’t? So why the fuck are we giving up now? Now when it’s most crucial to win our remaining games. It’s still fucking possible so fucking come on Arsenal!

We will follow Arsenal over land and sea ( and Leicester), so let’s follow them over these last few games of the season, onto victory!

UP THE ARSENAL! COME ON YOU GOONERS!

This guy has just echoed my thoughts come on lets believe:realmad: :realmad: :realmad: :unsure: :erm:

Keyser Soze

26-04-2008, 18:48

This guy has just echoed my thoughts come on lets believe:realmad: :realmad: :realmad: :unsure: :erm:
The guy is equally as retarded as you. Congrats.

Viperized

26-04-2008, 18:49

For Arsenal to win the title, we need 3 wins and Chelsea and Utd need to drop points in BOTH games (for Utd it will have to be 1 loss, 1 draw).

As if that is going to happen.

Phatmann

26-04-2008, 18:51

Interesting - 86 points if we win all our games.

Utd and Chelsea will have 85 points if they draw and win one.

You mean you'll be on 83 if you win all your matches, and if us and Chelsea draw and win one, we'll both be on 85?

Meyyappan

26-04-2008, 18:51

There is no wrong in supporting my team and encouraging other supporters as long as its possible mathematically,u just slate our thin chance because u dont like it.

Meyyappan

26-04-2008, 18:53

You mean you'll be on 83 if you win all your matches, and if us and Chelsea draw and win one, we'll both be on 85?

Erm we have 3 games buddy

Edit:we will be on 85 u have to lose 1 and draw 1 while if chelsea win at toon slim title hopes would be extinguished

Phatmann

26-04-2008, 18:54

Erm we have 3 games buddy.................
From your post it says you're on 74. 3 wins = 9 points, 74 + 9 = 83

?

Viperized

26-04-2008, 18:57

You mean you'll be on 83 if you win all your matches, and if us and Chelsea draw and win one, we'll both be on 85?
Oh. made a mistake in counting the points up.

Joel

26-04-2008, 18:57

From your post it says you're on 74. 3 wins = 9 points, 74 + 9 = 83

?

Don't even bother wasting your time, Mike...

Meyyappan

26-04-2008, 19:01

From your post it says you're on 74. 3 wins = 9 points, 74 + 9 = 83

?

Yep made a mistake

somegooner

26-04-2008, 19:27

Actually we do have a chance. United have West Ham, who they haven't beaten in a while and Wigan, who have drawn against Chelsea, Us, and Liverpool. So why not United.
Chelski have Newcastle, who they haven't beaten in a while at SJP, and someone else. That someone else might draw against them. 1 defeat and 1 win for chelsea might give us the title on goal difference. All we have to do is beat Everton and Sunderland. Everton are weakened (no Arteta, no Cahill, Yakubu dried as usual at the end of the season) and Sunderland are shite.

Phatmann

26-04-2008, 19:31

Wan

26-04-2008, 19:32

They are the best. :ninja:

Dragonfly

26-04-2008, 19:34

We don't deserve this. Somegooner, did you not see what was posted before?

Dundon's

27-04-2008, 03:40

I just want Gallas to give up that number 10 shirt and hopefully pass it onto someone worthy in the summer.

That's all I want. :no:

Meyyappan

27-04-2008, 04:32

I just want Gallas to give up that number 10 shirt and hopefully pass it onto someone worthy in the summer.

That's all I want. :no:

What about our prodigal talent Vela,hes been excelling a la anderson faring more than well against the likes of S.Ramos and Daniel Alves and some gooner chelsea need two draws;) :erm: :crymore: while vela also has been voted osasunas most importat player by fans and he has scored a goal or 2 and assisted some.

Viperized

27-04-2008, 09:39

I just want Gallas to give up that number 10 shirt and hopefully pass it onto someone worthy in the summer.

That's all I want. :no:
What difference does a shirt number make?

We shouldn't worry about shirt numbers, we should worry about keeping our current set of players (with the exception of Eboue) and strengthening the squad.

Meyyappan

27-04-2008, 13:35

Wenger is doing a big big mistake with flameboy here:

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has urged Mathieu Flamini not to leave Emirates Stadium just for the sake of a 'few bucks'.

The Gunners, who travel to relegated Derby on Monday night, are facing a third season in a row without silverware as a campaign which initially promised so much is set to end without success.

Wenger, though, is confident his young Gunners can sample glory next season, despite it being rumoured key men like Cesc Fabregas, Alexander Hleb and Flamini are summer targets for a number of clubs across Europe.

Flamini in particular has been strongly linked with a move to Juventus as the Frenchman, who is out of contract at the end of the season, has yet to accept a new deal with Arsenal and Wenger is desperate to maintain his squad.

Strong

"There is something in this team which is stronger than a few bucks here and there," said Wenger.

"What is really important is that this team says 'lets go to the end of our potential together and not walk out for any simpler reason' - and that is where I expect them to show strength, and care what they can achieve together.

"We are not any more in a period where you get £100 more at another club and it decides your life.

"Flamini can earn more somewhere else that is for sure because it would be a free transfer - but how much is he ready to sacrifice to stay here?"

Fire

Wenger has been left bitterly disappointed by another barren campaign, but the Arsenal boss claims he maintains a 'fire' for a return to the glory days.

"Of course I looked at myself, it is the first thing I do," Wenger added. "I worked harder than ever this year.

"Do I have the fire and desire is not what I question. What is so difficult to swallow is that you work as hard as I did and finish empty handed.

"I am not pretentious enough to say I didn't make mistakes - but we only lost three games and we are not competing for the championship."

I can understand that wenger doesnt wanna spend big,buy players all that,I trust him but come on if hes challenging Mathieu to stay forgetting a few bucks why dont we throw in the few bucks where is all the money we are earning going to???

Also personally i feel compared to the salaries of the likes of rooney,ronaldo,messi,robinho Cesc should be atleast in the 70-75k bracket.

And also is it a reliable source because i got some transfer news:
Arsenal line up bid for Raul Albiol
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Raul Albiol has emerged at the top of Arsene Wenger's summer shopping list.

The 22-year-old Valencia centre-back, who can also operate as a midfield holding player, has broken into the Spain side this season.

Albiol, who is rated in the £10million bracket, can provide the power Arsenal missed in the run-in to their trophy-less campaign.

He fits the Gunners' blueprint of emerging young players who manager Wenger can develop alongside the likes of Cesc Fabregas and Robin van Persie.
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Wenger is ready to go Dutch and move for Ajax striker Klass-Jan Huntelaar. At 24, Huntelaar has already become a regular fixture in the Hoilland team. He has a lethal eye for goal that would help cover the loss of broken leg victim Eduardo.

Wenger has also been hugely impressed by the impact of Cardiff's 17-year-old midfield player Aaron Ramsey. The teenager has looked completely at ease during Cardiff's run to the FA Cup Final.

However, it appears Wenger is unlikely to move for a top-line keeper this summer. The suggestion inside Arsenal is that Manuel Almunia will be the major beneficiary of Jens Lehmann's departure.

Almunia will be No.1 with Lukas Fabianski his understudy.

Wenger will now scout the free transfer market to find an experienced third-choice keeper who could be relied on in an emergency - as he did two years ago with Mart Poom.

Its something like mirror.co.uk

Dundon's

27-04-2008, 13:52

What difference does a shirt number make?

We shouldn't worry about shirt numbers, we should worry about keeping our current set of players (with the exception of Eboue) and strengthening the squad.

Call me old fashioned mate and yes I'm also aware of the player issues regarding signing new contracts.

ThierryHenry14

27-04-2008, 13:52

Fabianski 2nd choice goalkeeper:(...

somegooner

27-04-2008, 15:01

Fabianski 2nd choice goalkeeper:(...

Come on mate. He can't be that bad.

JoeyM

27-04-2008, 15:59

This thread has become so fucking awful.

Jesus

27-04-2008, 17:47

Apparently Mathieu Flamini will be signing for A.C Milan shortly. I didn't see anything on the net but on TeleFoot(a reputed French football show), this morning, they briefly said so.

I see Arsenal fans are good at maths.

Mike, Meyyappan got an A* in Maths.(90 marks or something):cool:

:laugh:

Jonny2J

28-04-2008, 12:41

The train went passed The Emirates on our way back last night, looked very impressive from the outside, I must say.

Phatmann

28-04-2008, 13:07

The train went passed The Emirates on our way back last night, looked very impressive from the outside, I must say.
It's equally as impressive on the inside, although I've only been on 3 occasions, all for Brazil matches so couldn't really comment on the atmosphere when the Arsenal are playing there. Seats are mighty comfy too.:smug:

:mrgreen:

28-04-2008, 15:09

I think Wenger is soon going to regret letting go so easily Diarra..

somegooner

28-04-2008, 18:07

Today's lineup:

---------------------Fabianski------------------------
---Touré-------Song---------Gallas-------Traoré---
---Eboué-------Gilberto----Fabregas-----Walcott--
----------------Adebayor---Van Persie-------------

Bench:
- Manone
- Hoyte
- Denilson
- Bendtner
- Clichy

What do you guys think??

CaptainCabinet

28-04-2008, 19:06

It's Derby.

Blindfold them all and you'd still win.

Viperized

28-04-2008, 20:25

We're struggling against Derby.

I can't help but laugh.

ThierryHenry14

28-04-2008, 20:35

1-1 Omg!!!

somegooner

28-04-2008, 21:04

It's 2-1 again. Nice finish from RvP.

EDIT: 3-1 and the best part about it is that Eboué is injured. YESSSS!!!

ThierryHenry14

28-04-2008, 21:36

# And now Thierry Henry and Tony Adams.
# 74'Derby come forward, McEveley clips in a cross from the left, Song clears. Arsenal's fans are airing their appreciation of past heroes, apparently in reverse chronological order. We've had Patrick Vieira, Dennis Bergkamp and Ian Wright so far.

Sounds like a fun place to be...

Keyser Soze

28-04-2008, 21:39

It's 2-1 again. Nice finish from RvP.

EDIT: 3-1 and the best part about it is that Eboué is injured. YESSSS!!!
Stop posting. Thanks.

somegooner

28-04-2008, 21:40

This really is a game of good finishes and funky celebrations.

ThierryHenry14

28-04-2008, 21:54

ADEBAYOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !Hat-Trick

vanNistelrooy

28-04-2008, 23:11

O H
M Y
G O D
I T ' S
O N L Y
F _ C K I N G
D E R B Y !

Care to guess the missing letter?

Walcott's finish looked nice. Did it take a deflection?

JoeyM

28-04-2008, 23:14

^No.

Flaminator's supposedly signed for Milan.

Dragonfly

29-04-2008, 00:37

Bendtner is starting to get on my tits. I think when Vela come back, Bendtner will be fifth choice striker - I think Walcott will play on the wing.

Dundon's

29-04-2008, 00:53

O H
M Y
G O D
I T ' S
O N L Y
F _ C K I N G
D E R B Y !

Care to guess the missing letter?

Walcott's finish looked nice. Did it take a deflection?

Doesn't matter who it is, I'll enjoy the goals.

50!

29-04-2008, 00:59

http://www.ukimagehost.com/uploads/b292897656.gif

Dragonfly

29-04-2008, 01:02

Haha. That was hilarious, taking the piss out of Earnshaw. :laugh:

Stella Artois

29-04-2008, 03:37

We're struggling against Derby.

I can't help but laugh.

:rolleyes:

Can we please have a ban on Viperzied, Meyappan and somegooner.

Thanks.

JoeyM

29-04-2008, 04:23

:rolleyes:

Can we please have a ban on Viperzied, Meyappan and somegooner.

Thanks.

:D

i actually requested almost the exact same thing in the Veteran's area yesterday.

Power to the people!

Tigermen

29-04-2008, 11:10

Haha. That was hilarious, taking the piss out of Earnshaw. :laugh:

I'd like to think they weren't taking the piss out of Earnshaw - it looks pre-planned as well the dance, they know exactly what each other was doing. Granted, Earnie looked like a massive twat but it would have been out of order for them to take the piss out of him, especially given that Ade has been guilty of some rather moronic dancing in his time.

Viperized

29-04-2008, 16:25

:rolleyes:

Can we please have a ban on Viperzied, Meyappan and somegooner.

Thanks.
Oh no.

Ban me because I spoke the truth. Did you even watch the fucking game? During the time I posted, Derby were actually controlling the ball a lot better than us and had more attacking options.

There is NOTHING wrong with what I said. You seem to have a good wank over EVERY post I make about the team not playing well.

Adammce05

29-04-2008, 16:48

Because you seem to do it early into the match, so then when yous turn it around you look like a fucking knob.

JoeyM

29-04-2008, 17:10

Oh no.

Ban me because I spoke the truth. Did you even watch the fucking game? During the time I posted, Derby were actually controlling the ball a lot better than us and had more attacking options.

There is NOTHING wrong with what I said. You seem to have a good wank over EVERY post I make about the team not playing well.

:laugh:

Thanks for the negative rep, your name wasn't on the ban list I posted though.

Rambo

29-04-2008, 17:17

Oh no.

Ban me because I spoke the truth. Did you even watch the fucking game? During the time I posted, Derby were actually controlling the ball a lot better than us and had more attacking options.

There is NOTHING wrong with what I said. You seem to have a good wank over EVERY post I make about the team not playing well.

That's the problem, why not wait till the end of the game instead of looking like an idiot?

somegooner

29-04-2008, 17:22

What did I do??

Viperized

29-04-2008, 17:25

Thanks for the negative rep, your name wasn't on the ban list I posted though.
Oh - just assumed it was since you said you posted the exact same message.

That's the problem, why not wait till the end of the game instead of looking like an idiot?
Did I say we were going to lose? No.

I merely said we were struggling.

Nothing wrong with that.

Definitely Maybe

29-04-2008, 17:28

Did I say we were going to lose? No.

I merely said we were struggling.

Nothing wrong with that.

You posted after what, 20 minutes?

Total kneejerk bollocks because you hadn't scored after 20 minutes. Get a grip man.

Viperized

29-04-2008, 17:29

You posted after what, 20 minutes?

Total kneejerk bollocks because you hadn't scored after 20 minutes. Get a grip man.
I wasn't talking about the scoreline - I was talking about the performance.

Sully

29-04-2008, 17:31

Stella Artois

30-04-2008, 10:38

Because you seem to do it early into the match, so then when yous turn it around you look like a fucking knob.

Exactly. Unless we're 5-0 up inside the first ten minutes we're shit.

Very, very tiresome to read.

Viperized

30-04-2008, 15:28

Exactly. Unless we're 5-0 up inside the first ten minutes we're shit.

Very, very tiresome to read.
Are you blind? I'm not going to bother to repeat myself.

somegooner

30-04-2008, 15:49

http://101greatgoals.magnify.net/item/W4TLXLJ7RN4QYRZT

Looking good for Arsenal and England. Hopefully he doesn't become another David Bentley.

Original?

30-04-2008, 17:41

http://101greatgoals.magnify.net/item/W4TLXLJ7RN4QYRZT

Looking good for Arsenal and England. Hopefully he doesn't become another David Bentley.

Hmmm... I'd rather have Bentley on my right wing than Eboue. :rolleyes:

vanNistelrooy

30-04-2008, 17:49

http://101greatgoals.magnify.net/item/W4TLXLJ7RN4QYRZT
How's his right foot?

somegooner

30-04-2008, 18:35

Dunno Zissou. I'd presume that it's fair since he's playing on the right because when you play on the wing opposite to your stornger foot your weaker should have some degree of skill.

@Original? When I said "another David Bentley" I meant it in the sense of getting frustrated at a lack of opportunity and then leaving and doing well at another club.

Original?

30-04-2008, 19:21

ThierryHenry14

30-04-2008, 20:47

Walcott is Arsenal.com Player of the Month
http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=490918&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Walcott+is+Arsenal.com+P layer+of+the+Month

Cannon ball

30-04-2008, 22:51

Lay off Viperized, stop getting on his back.

Stella Artois

01-05-2008, 01:42

Ah, since my previous comment I've watched the video.... two clips where he did well? Fucking wonderful, guaranteed to be a world beater. :rolleyes:

To be fair to him, the lad is getting a lot of good press in Arsenal-related circles as he's been performing really well lately despite only just having turned 16.

From what I hear, definitely one for the future.

somegooner

01-05-2008, 14:16

Original?

01-05-2008, 14:37

To be fair to him, the lad is getting a lot of good press in Arsenal-related circles as he's been performing really well lately despite only just having turned 16.

From what I hear, definitely one for the future.

I'm sure he's very good and got promise, but why link to a video of two short passages of play? :erm:

Meyyappan

01-05-2008, 15:01

I'm sure he's very good and got promise, but why link to a video of two short passages of play? :erm:

To give a point of view my dear;)

Keyser Soze

01-05-2008, 15:11

To give a point of view my dear;)
*waits for Meyyapan to get abused*

Original?

01-05-2008, 16:53

To give a point of view my dear;)

Sarcasm coupled with a supercilious attitude works far better when you're not a fucking retard. He's actually providing it as some form of evidence of the lads' quality, however I could equally find two clips of most players doing something impressive. For all we know he spent the rest of the game tripping over his own feet, I'm not doubting the lad is talented as to be playing in the Arsenal youth team you have to be.

What I am doubting however is Somegooner's intelligence, or as it happens, lack thereof. I don't see the need to post a clip of two moments of a match, and then suggest any relation to what happened with David Bentley. Though a comforting thought resting in the back of Somegooner's mind is that you're (unfortunately) always around to make him look like a shining beacon of wit and wisdom.

Bammers05

01-05-2008, 17:21

http://goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=6790 50

More good news about Wilshire.

http://goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=6793 50

This second page is probably bs but would really want Gareth Barry or Michael Johnson since Flamini has left.

Am I missing something here? While I am aware that Flamini was supposed to have signed a new contract by today, I haven't seen anything on the club's website or on other credible websites suggesting that he's decided to leave and, therefore, I still see him as an Arsenal player.

Tbh though, if I were you, I'd be much more worried about this guy leaving:

Arsenal managing director Keith Edelman will leave the club "to seek pastures new and embark upon fresh challenges".

Edelman departs after eight years at Arsenal in which he played a key role in their move to the Emirates Stadium.

He was responsible for commercial and administrative activities and oversaw Arsenal's turnover breaking £200m.

"Under Keith's stewardship the Club has achieved record profits and the Board owes him a debt of gratitude," said Gunners chairman Peter Hill-Wood.

"Keith has played a major role in the growth of the club since he joined in 2000.

"In that time we have successfully implemented the move from Highbury to Emirates Stadium that has underpinned the future of the business and confirmed our position as one of Europe's leading clubs."

Edelman has fiercely and repeatedly rejected claims that Arsenal require outside investment to compete with Manchester United, Chelsea and Liverpool - their closest Premier League rivals who are all foreign-owned.

Arsenal have been subject to takeover rumours with Red and White Holdings Limited, which is jointly owned by Russian billionaire Alisher Usmanov and London-based Farhad Moshiri, upping its stake in the club to 24% to become the largest shareholder ahead of director Danny Fiszman.

American billionaire investor Stan Kroenke, meanwhile, holds a 12% stake.

Edelman is reported to hold only a nominal number of shares but his exit could spark fears of a fresh takeover bid.

"I have thoroughly enjoyed my time at Arsenal," said Edelman.

"It has been a very exciting period for the business and I am proud to have contributed to the club's many off-field achievements over the past eight years, not least the Emirates Stadium project.

"Now that we have completed our second season at Emirates, I believe it is the right time to seek pastures new and embark upon fresh challenges."

After his arrival at the north London club, Edelman completed the first strategic partnership Arsenal had entered into since forming when a 10% stake was sold to Granada Media for £77 million.

He oversaw Arsenal's re-branding and crest redesign and was later engineered a new sponsorship deal with Nike, valued at £130 million over 10 years.

With the stadium nearing completion, Edelman completed one of the largest football sponsorship deals, with Emirates Airlines for over £100 million, including naming rights to the ground.

"The board has already initiated the search for a new managing director and will update shareholders and stakeholders when appropriate," read a statement from Arsenal Holdings PLC.

"In the meantime, director Ken Friar, who has a wealth of football-based experience and business acumen having previously occupied the role of managing director (1982-2000), will assume the position of acting managing director."

Source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7377052.stm)

:no:

JoeyM

01-05-2008, 18:21

There's been rumours of him leaving for ages. Hardly a disaster, I believe he was only brought in to aid the stadium building process anyway.

Dundon's

01-05-2008, 20:23

Walcott is Arsenal.com Player of the Month
http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=490918&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Walcott+is+Arsenal.com+P layer+of+the+Month

And rightly so.

Barry

01-05-2008, 20:39

*waits for Meyyapan to get abused*

Didn't take very long did it :laugh:

somegooner

02-05-2008, 08:18

What I am doubting however is Somegooner's intelligence, or as it happens, lack thereof. I don't see the need to post a clip of two moments of a match, and then suggest any relation to what happened with David Bentley. Though a comforting thought resting in the back of Somegooner's mind is that you're (unfortunately) always around to make him look like a shining beacon of wit and wisdom.

It was the only video that I could find of him.

I'd like to think they weren't taking the piss out of Earnshaw - it looks pre-planned as well the dance, they know exactly what each other was doing. Granted, Earnie looked like a massive twat but it would have been out of order for them to take the piss out of him, especially given that Ade has been guilty of some rather moronic dancing in his time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QAMDeks2Nc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2rLFnQWqUw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfwGyU86WQo&feature=related

Our players are all known for their dancing skills. I know that this post came late but as I was watching some youtube vids today I stumbled across these.