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Koeman got the Feyenoord jon (Older Koeman..not Ronald)...so no Adams there...he must still be scouting!
RE Simek & Karbissyoon...well...a shame but maybe we have too many reserves...and they've been around for 4 years already.
Birchall sounds good actually...and would have helped in thei home grown thing....but hey....Wenger's got a few more strikers like Ryan Smith....
Scarface
29-05-2005, 13:31
Koeman got the Feyenoord jon (Older Koeman..not Ronald)...so no Adams there...he must still be scouting!
I think Adams is a candidate for a coaching role, not the managers job itself. He might join them to coach the defenders.
Robinho admits Arsenal talks
In a stunning turn of events, Brazilian youngster Robinho has admitted that he has been contacted by Arsenal over a possible move to the London club.
Robinho has been touted as the next Brazilian superstar after some dazzling displays in the Brazilian league for Santos. It was thought that Real Madrid led the race for his signature, although Chelsea had also been reported to have an interest.
Earlier reports had played down Robinho's interest in a move to Arsenal, but now he has conceded that he is in discussion with the Gunners and would relish the opportunity to line up next to Thierry Henry.
"Arsenal have been in touch with my people in the last few days and they have made me aware of the offer," Robinho told the News of the World.
"I am very proud that they are looking at me because a club like Arsenal doesn't come in for you every day.
"It would be a dream for me to play alongside Thierry Henry, we will continue to talk."
It has been reported that Arsenal will bid £14 million bid for his services, an amount which ultimately may not be enough as Madrid or Chelsea would most likely be able to pay more than Arsenal in a straight bidding war.
Nonetheless the news is enouraging for fans hoping to see Arsène Wenger rebuild his team for next season!
Source (http://www.arsenal-now.com/?page=articles&view=full&article=225787&title=Robinho)
Spanish striker Fernando Torres is also being linked with us, with Robert Pires possibly a makeweight in a deal with Athletico Madrid.
Yeah...you could be right about the coaching job for Adams Reyes.
BTW...here' the Torres rumour.
WENGER MOVES FOR 'EL ROONEY' May 29 2005
Arsenal to splash &£20m on Torres
By Pete Jenson
ARSENAL will this week open negotiations for Spanish sensation Fernando Torres.
The boy wonder striker, once dubbed Spain's Wayne Rooney, will move to Highbury if the Gunners can reach an agreement with cash-strapped Atletico Madrid.
Torres is valued at around £20million, but Arsenal want to use players as part of a deal to bring the young striker, known to his adoring fans as El Nino (The Boy), to London.
Midfielders Edu and Robert Pires could enter the equation. Both are surplus to requirements at Highbury and want to play in La Liga.
Highbury chief Arsene Wenger sees Torres, capped 12 times by Spain, as the perfect foil for Thierry Henry, who has demanded reinforcements up front.
He would also help Arsenal's homesick Spaniard Jose Antonio Reyes, his international team-mate, to settle in London.
Torres, who has a contract at Atletico until 2008, had been planning to stay for one more year to play in the Champions League. But a disastrous end to the season has left Atletico without a place in Europe - furious fans even invaded a training session last week.
The disappointment of failing to qualify even for the UEFA Cup has been the final straw for Torres and he has asked his advisors to broker a move to the Premiership.
Torres, 21, broke into the Atletico first team as a raw 17-year-old and has been the club's top scorer ever since.
Chelsea showed an interest during the January transfer window, using Adrian Mutu as bait, and Sir Alex Ferguson has long been an admirer. But Arsenal are at the front of the queue and the prospect of playing with Henry and his Spanish pal Reyes is hugely tempting for Torres.
Sunday People (http://www.people.co.uk/sport/tm_objectid=15569060%26method= full%26siteid=55768%26headline =wenger%2dmoves%2dfor%2d%2del% 2drooney%2d-name_page.html)
Take it with a pinch of salt....it IS the Sunday People...but hey...sounds fantastic! :lol: Mmm..actually just found that the Mirror is saying the Robinho thing is true...as well...so it must be true! :laugh:
Football365 (http://www.football365.com/news/transfer_gossip/index.shtml)
ARSENAL GO FOR BROKE
Arsenal are lining up a £15m bid for Santos' Brazilian striker Robinho, say the Mirror, a £20m bid for Atletico Madrid's Spanish winger Fernando Torres, say the People, a £10m bid for Newcastle’s Jermaine Jenas and are scouting former Middlesbrough midfielder Ricardinho as well as Swedish club BK Hacken's Liberian international centre-back Jimmy Dixon. It's going to be a busy off-season.
Well, the Gunners might as well forget about Robinho, who they watched last week with player's agent after the 21-year-old was quoted as saying: "I prefer to stay at Santos and win the Copa Libertadores. I want to give my best to help Santos become champions. What will be better for everybody will be better for me as well."
Newcastle boss Graeme Souness has already ruled out a move for England midfielder Jermaine Jenas when Tottenham came calling, but a move for Fernando Torres appears a real possibility after the 21-year-old told his advisors he wanted to move to the Premiership with Atletico Madrid failing to qualify for Europe for next season. Arsene Wenger could offer midfielders Edu and Robert Pires as part of the deal which could cost as much as £20m.
Gunners scouts also watched 29-year-old Santos midfielder Ricardinho score twice in a recent game and could land the influential Brazilian for a relatively small fee, but will consider whether or not to gamble on signing a player close to 30, while 23-year-old Jimmy Dixon, who is also a target for Ajax, has also impressed.
Edu to Valencia
Thread (http://forum.pesinsight.com/showthread.php?p=355642#post35 5642)
Darrenaldo
31-05-2005, 09:57
Edu to Valencia
Thread (http://forum.pesinsight.com/showthread.php?p=355642#post35 5642)
ahh well, wish him all the best (one of the only transfers/sales where I still have a lot of love for the player) THANX EDDY
First Posted by Yossi - WOW!! Nasri!!
SkySports (http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=281664&CPID=24&CLID=&lid=2&title=Gunners+join+Nasri+hunt&channel=France)
Arsenal are ready to test Marseille's resolve over their teenage starlet Samir Nasri.
The 17-year-old has emerged on the first team scene this season and has impressed, although he lost his place in Phillipe Troussier's team towards the end of the season.
Nasri is reported to have become a bit disgruntled with life on the bench and, despite his tender years, is now considering his future.
The playmaker has been trailed by a host of English clubs with Chelsea, Liverpool and Newcastle all keeping tabs on his progress.
However, Arsene Wenger and his French scouts are known to have been impressed with Nasri and are now considering an offer - although they may yet baulk at the asking price which is understood to be in excess of €10 million.
LOL...dunno how true it is...since we pissed them off RE: Flamini!! Same team...but definitely different tactics as they cleverly signed Nasri to a professional contract early. :lol:
Stella Artois
31-05-2005, 13:01
Never seen him play so I can't comment.
So far it seems we've been linked too:
Robinho
Fernando Torres
Timo Hildebrand
Alexander Hleb
Ricardo
Jermaine Jenas (No thanks)
And a Swedish defender whose name escapes me.
The likelihood is that perhaps 2-3 of all those mentioned will actually join us. Preferably, Hildebrand, Torres and Hleb.
Scarface
31-05-2005, 14:50
Strange we seem to be more interested in attacking players rather than defenders. I thought a new right back would be high on the list of priorities, but it seems not of the recent transfer talk is to be believed.
Maybe Emanuel Eboue or Kolo Toure will take the spot next year, with Senderos and Campbell in the centre. I'm still not sure we have the centre back positions covered either, no Arsenal fans want to see us having to resort to playing Cygan there, and we cannot be sure Senderos will keep up his recent form for 30+ games next year.
Centre backs: Campbell, Senderos, Toure, Eboue, Cygan, Djourou (possibly)..enough there?
I'd also be delighted with Hildebrand, Hleb and Torres, but i'd also like us to sign Germany right back Arne Friedrich from Hertha Berlin, as Lauren is often a weakness in Europe. Friedrich is also capable of playing at centre back, so he would be an excellent signing.
codename 47
31-05-2005, 14:58
Maybe the emergence of senderos has changed wengers mind about him signing a new defender
I do hope arsenal sign shun wright phillips as he'd do very well there,maybeIan wright could give him some advice to sign for the club :laugh:
Viperized
31-05-2005, 19:00
Never seen him play so I can't comment.
So far it seems we've been linked too:
Robinho
Fernando Torres
Timo Hildebrand
Alexander Hleb
Ricardo
Jermaine Jenas (No thanks)
And a Swedish defender whose name escapes me.
The likelihood is that perhaps 2-3 of all those mentioned will actually join us. Preferably, Hildebrand, Torres and Hleb.
We are also after Sabastian Frey, Saloman Kalou and Dirt Kuyt.
K.1.N.G.
31-05-2005, 20:15
I do hope arsenal sign shun wright phillips as he'd do very well there,maybeIan wright could give him some advice to sign for the club :laugh:
only prob is that wrighty said that he would recommend any young player join chelsea, so dont think we can rely on any help from his quarter
:mellow:
dunno why he thinks that though, young players are more likely to get a chance at arsenal, man yoo, liverpool etc than at chelsea...
Guillermo
31-05-2005, 20:18
From the looks of a couple of posts, Arsenal are going for a German league raid. Hleb, Hildebrand, Friedrich etc.
Seen Hleb a couple of times, great dribble and fast footwork. Kuijt is a player that Liverpool need, I dont think he's a Gunner. Kalou however would fit good, its a joy to see him play. Hope he stays at our rivals one more year, so footballlovers here can enjoy more than only 1 season from him.
Mmm...I think it was mentioned a while back about Ricardo (Sporting Lisbon GK) - looks like it is getting closer...but still no real knowledge of him (apart from the England save I guess).
Morientes19
03-06-2005, 09:45
i have seen Ricardo many times. He reminds me of bartez (in other words he thinks he can play) he is a good all round goalie, but takes to many risks! eg. when a defender passes the ball back to hima n a opposition striker is chasing it he will try to fake a kick and take him on. V risky!
Viperized
03-06-2005, 10:55
http://www.arsenal.com/images/PreviousSite/root/r/redcurrant_8player_large.jpg
Arsenal home kit revealed. From the Official Arsenal website.
Stella Artois
03-06-2005, 10:58
It's not as bad as most people feared. I like it.
very nice that arsenal strip
RawIsWar
03-06-2005, 11:32
I like the strip too, it is quite unique too really
Darrenaldo
03-06-2005, 12:34
Dennis and Wenger really do look like they're from the victorian period, must be the haircuts or something...
Very nice kit there...I love it :).
It will be really weird seeing them playing in that colour strip though...
Also, anyone else seen that article on the bbc sports page, about Arsenal after the Tranmere youngster Taylor?
For those who haven't...Click here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/4597335.stm)
Duggano7
03-06-2005, 12:55
i think the st6rip is very plian to be honest
Scarface
03-06-2005, 12:58
I'm quite liking that kit, not as nice as our recent home strips by any means, but a lot better than I first expected it to be.
Solid Foxx
03-06-2005, 13:41
I think Adams is a candidate for a coaching role, not the managers job itself. He might join them to coach the defenders.
Reports here in the Netherlands claimed that he was
1) scouting Kuyt
2) discussing to join the training staff for an traineeship/internship for the completion of his managers degree (or however you call it)
Will they also get a new away kit? Or just the new home kit?
what about cole? i heard that hes stalling on signing a new deal...
i say piss off
Viperized
04-06-2005, 10:21
I heard that Real Madrid want to buy Ashley Cole for £14 million or they might trade him for Roberto Carlos with some extra money.
Stella Artois
04-06-2005, 10:29
How old is Carlos? 32? 33? No thanks.
hes worth more than 14 million surely?
Darrenaldo
04-06-2005, 13:34
i'd say around the £20million mark
LOL...trade with Roberto Carlos! Now that is more far-fetched than Raul going to Liverpool!
codename 47
04-06-2005, 19:46
Arsenal fans if they have the chance should check out tommrows news of the world as its been revelaved that they have a interview with ashley cole and its not good for his arsenal future as he's believed to have blamed david dein for''wreaking his arsenal carear'' he has also said he wouldn't sign a new deal at arsenal even if they offered him £200,000 a week,also seems like his future is abroad with in my view is a brave move as english players no matter how good don't ted to travel well,best example is david beckham hailed as ''the best right winger in the world'' and two years later is barely hanging on to his england place so i hope ashley cole knows wwhat he's doing
Yep so what do you lot reckon ashley cole will go to which club abroad? he said im not going to a club in england. Dein ruined coles career aswell according to cole
Barcelona?
Real Madrid?
Inter?
Ac milan?
codename 47
04-06-2005, 19:52
Seeing as they seem to be a magnet for english players i'd say madrid are favourites
what do you think ?
If he dose go it'll be to one of the milans i reckon
Not too sure i reckon he will got to either barcelona/Madrid, both need to tighten there defence up and cole will do well for either of them. But there wont be a shortage of clubs after him though.
codename 47
04-06-2005, 19:59
Yeah thats true
how do you think arsenal will cope without him ? i think with clichy and another left back signed they'll cope well,i'd get Philipe lahm personally if not another young rookie left back wenger could find, turn into a great left back then have him turn on the club that devloped him
Arsenal i reckon will still do well in the premiership not too sure about the champions league though, some may say this is all just speculation but ive hard A.cole is serious and he does want to leave. Not heard alot about lahm, if he is good enough. It is a shame for arsenal that cole will be leaving, but its about time a different club had some bad luck.
codename 47
04-06-2005, 20:07
Arsenal i reckon will still do well in the premiership not too sure about the champions league though, some may say this is all just speculation but ive hard A.cole is serious and he does want to leave. Not heard alot about lahm, if he is good enough. It is a shame for arsenal that cole will be leaving, but its about time a different club had some bad luck.
Talking about man u are you :lol:
i've heard about the interview he's doing with the news of the world and if what one of the editors told skysports news is true then he is deadly serious
You hear about his allegations that arsenal was run by a french ''clique''/Gang/crew :lol:
Yea cole said he was scared that there where alot of french players in the team and that he has lost his good relationship with arsene Wenger aswell. I fought he done a interview with the times.
codename 47
04-06-2005, 22:17
well if cole is hoping to go abroad to spain and madrid,as a real fan i can say if he thinks life at arsenal is bad it'll be twice as worse in the madrid dressing room just ask michael owen
part of me wouldn't mind seeing him stuck with the galacticos give him what he deserves after turning his back on arsene wenger :realmad:
Scarface
04-06-2005, 22:29
It is News Of The World who are making up these stories of him saying he wouldn't stay even if offered £200,000 a week, so take them with a pinch of salt.
I'm not surprised he is supposedly extremely pissed off, he must feel humiliated, but once it's all calmed down, I think he will him have talks with Wenger to smooth things over, and he will be at Arsenal next season. Reyes was said to be a certainty to leave, and now it looks very unlikely that he will leave; these stories are made up all the time to try and wreck Arsenal's summer in the hope it will affect us next season, it's nothing new.
As for the 'French clique', Peter Kenyon revealed that little story, so he would be the last person to trust for accurate information.
codename 47
05-06-2005, 10:00
Heres what he's supposed to have said in a interview with a newspaper
Cole is believed to be smarting at Arsenal's failure to reward him with a lucrative new deal despite proving himself to be one of the world's top defenders.
He was fined £100,000 last week for his part in the Chelsea tapping-up affair, having met Blues and their manager Jose Mourinho at a London hotel earlier in the year.
It was believed that his decision to meet Mourinho was due to the fact that he had not been handed a decent contract by The Gunners.
The defender has yet to decide whether he will appeal against the fine, with his thoughts seemingly on his football future.
Cole claims he cannot see himself signing a new deal at Arsenal and may well attempt to forge a career on the continent.
"If they offer me £100,000 or £200,000 a week now I would not accept it," he told the News of the World. "It is not about the money, it is about being treated right.
"The damage has been done. I love this club but I suspect there are people at this club who do not want me to pull on a Gunners shirt again.
"I still won't sign for another Premiership team as I could not see myself playing against Arsenal.
"I would only want to play abroad."
(skysports.com)
adams9802
06-06-2005, 21:25
This is what Arseblogger has to say about this whole saga. I agree entirely with what he says:The main talking point still is the Ashley Cole case and yesterday the News of the World got the interview everybody wanted' with Cole himself in which he took it upon himself to slate the club, David Dein, criticise the manager for not doing enough for him and the Arsenal tea lady for forgetting his sugar one morning. He's blaming everyone, left right and centre, except for himself and his agent who, of course, have been whiter than white and done nothing to warrant any kind of criticism. Quoth the Raven "If they offer me £100,000 or £200,000 a week now I would not accept it. I blame David Dein for trying to force me out. It's all over. I feel betrayed, confused and badly let down. It's hard to forgive."
Yes, it must be hard to forgive Arsenal for going to meet Chelsea to discuss the sale of Cole behind his back even though he didn't want to leave. Erm...wait a second, that's not quite right. Maybe it's hard to forgive Arsenal for giving you the chance to be a world class defender, establish you as an England international and offer to more than double your £27,000 a week wages. I know I'd find that hard to forgive.
Of course it's just a huge 'poor me' PR stunt and yet another attempt by the guilty parties in all this to shift the blame elsewhere and refuse to accept responsibility for their own actions. This bit in particular made me laugh when Cole said "I won't sign for another Premiership club because I can't imagine myself playing against Arsenal. I would only want to play abroad."
Right, so why the fuck did you go meet Chelsea then, Ashley? If you couldn't imagine playing against Arsenal why would you go and meet a team who we play at least twice a year, a team who we're going to battle with for the title for the foreseeable future, a team who you should be playing against as Arsenal's left back? It's a fairly lame attempt to reclaim some favour but it's so transparent as to be laughable. I wonder how much Barnett paid the NOTW for the friendly article, remember it was the News of the World and The Sun that broke the story about the meeting in the first place. Cole tries to suggest that because Arsenal didn't give him exactly what he wanted it was ok for him to take matters into his own hands and go and meet a team he knew he shouldn't have. I think Ashley Cole's time at Arsenal is well and truly up. This interview has put paid to any slim chance there might have been for reconcilation between all concerned. He's chosen the easy way out, to deny, to dissemble, to spoof and to cloud the waters rather than take the admittedly more difficult path of accepting the fact it's his actions that have brought all this about. If he wasn't happy with Arsenal's contract offer he could have continued to negotiate, he still has two years on his deal, running off to meet Chelsea was unacceptable no matter what the circumstances.
I have to have a word about Peter Kenyon too although Tom did mention it and his description of Kenyon's comments is spot on. He's been shooting his mouth off about how Arsenal is run by the French clique, about how there's no team spirit, about the supposed failings of Arsene Wenger as manager (read Jens Lehmann's denials of that here). Let's remember he denied any such meeting when the first story broke so he's a liar with an obvious agenda against Arsenal. He's crossed a line now in my opinion. You don't say things like that about another team or another manager and use one of their current players to do it. It's just low, although you wouldn't expect much more from him. Let's also remember Jonathan Barnett called stories about the meeting 'ridiculous' and said there was no problem between Arsenal and Cole. That makes him a liar. Mourinho denied being at the meeting as well saying 'I have never met the boy' and that he was in Milan. Yep, he's a liar too. And Cole himself said that Mourinho and Kenyon walked into the meeting 'by accident' so I don't need to tell you what that makes Ashley.
Basically the papers are full of stories from four fucking liars and quite honestly I don't know why anyone would now give any credence to anything they say. Sorry Ashley but a picture looking all mournful holding a copy of a fucking rag of a Sunday tabloid doesn't do it for me. The only ones we haven't really heard too much from are the people at Arsenal Football Club and that's probably the way it should be. Why should we get caught up in a cunt's convention like this? It's grimy, it's dirty, it's not Arsenal. I think it's tremendously sad what's happened with Ashley. I think it's sad the way he's been manipulated by people who see him as a way to make more money. It's sad the way he can't see the way he's been played. It's sad the way one of our favourite players has fucked things up so badly that most Arsenal fans want to see him as far away from the club as possible as soon as possible. His position is now untenable. He's got to be sold, no question about it. Let him go to Real Madrid, which is a very real possibility, but get him out. Maybe one day he'll realise what he's done, what he's lost that he'll never find at any other club. It's an ugly episode in Arsenal's history but to me Arsenal have behaved properly. Cole blaming the club for being put through an inquiry just shows how removed from the real world he is. It's like breaking into a house, getting caught and blaming the homeowner for having a burlgar alarm.
I'm not naive enough to think everything Arsenal do is for the greater good and gold-plated but at the end of the day we're not the ones telling lies to the press, we're not the ones going to meet players from other teams, we're not the ones tapping up sporting directors from other London clubs, we're not the ones having dinner with Rio Ferdinand, we're not the ones trying to destablise the dressing room of our main rivals, we're not the ones who may or may not have twisted the mind of the young player who just signed for Manchester United making him change his mind and we're not the ones whose empire is built on a foundation of dishonesty, arrogance, sneakiness, theft and underhandedness. For that I'm glad even if it means we lose Ashley Cole.
Well said Adams9802...
Put it across brilliantly, and I couldn't agreee more...
Stella Artois
07-06-2005, 08:52
He got that from www.arseblog.com, Kallum.
king reyes
07-06-2005, 09:53
Still,that doesn't mean there's anything to fault about Adams9802's post.We all agree thatAshley's been a complete moron,but losing him means losing (arguably) the best left-back in Europe.It's such a toss-up because you don't get another Ashley Cole every day,even with the eagle-eyed Wenger at the helm.
Still,that doesn't mean there's anything to fault about Adams9802's post.We all agree thatAshley's been a complete moron,but losing him means losing (arguably) the best left-back in Europe.It's such a toss-up because you don't get another Ashley Cole every day,even with the eagle-eyed Wenger at the helm.
Well... Clichy did VERY good replacing him, and the korean Lee, from PSV, is brilliant as well. I think Cole is a GREAT player, but as soon as players start thinking with their wallets instead of with their minds and hearts, they can be destructive for a team...
Lee would do great in London and in the English league.
Stella Artois
07-06-2005, 10:00
It's just that he shouldn't take credit for something he didn't write.
personally i think Lee is a bit too gung-ho at times going forward
king reyes
07-06-2005, 10:07
Well said Yi-Long.Sadly,I think that the Cole saga has kept the club from addressing its other problems,such as not having a real target man and not being able to cope with the diferent level of football in the champions league.
It's just that he shouldn't take credit for something he didn't write.
This is what Arseblogger has to say about this whole saga. I agree entirely with what he says:
king reyes
07-06-2005, 10:24
Which of today's target men should arsenal try to sign?I don't think Trezeguet would do any good in the prem.His knees are too sensitive. Why don't Arsenal try signing Hashemian of Bayern?He's very strong in the air,and Bayern seem to have signed him for no reason at all(read:perennial bench warmer).Also,it wouldn't hurt to see if Udinese's keeper,De Sanctis, is available
Morientes19
07-06-2005, 10:47
u also need a poacher, sum1 2 score scrapy goals, a fox in the box if u like. i rhink sum1 like owen would be good for arsenal, i agree u need a striker who can head the ball aswell, arenal get in some wonderful positions down the flanks and put in some great crosses into the area, if u had a striker thats ace in the air u would score many more goals!
-=[101st]=-
07-06-2005, 10:54
u also need a poacher, sum1 2 score scrapy goals, a fox in the box if u like. i rhink sum1 like owen would be good for arsenal, i agree u need a striker who can head the ball aswell, arenal get in some wonderful positions down the flanks and put in some great crosses into the area, if u had a striker thats ace in the air u would score many more goals!
pries does that all the time, but mainly only when henry makes the play and he comes from his flank... just need a striker who can hold up the play and henry run off him with this pace.. but then henry is not a support striker.. hmm.. i like van persie aside from him being a rotten dirty cheating cunt.. i think he will develop into a player that will work well with henry
Stella Artois
07-06-2005, 10:57
Well, we need someone like Owen, who is expected to score all the time. It will ease the pressure off of Henry.
We desperately need Reyes to start scoring more consistently too. He was off to a flyer at the start of the season, but he struggled during the mid-season.
As for Pires, he's scored 14 goals in the EPL this year - more than any other midfielder. It's not bad for someone who is 31, is it?
u also need a poacher, sum1 2 score scrapy goals, a fox in the box if u like. i rhink sum1 like owen would be good for arsenal, i agree u need a striker who can head the ball aswell, arenal get in some wonderful positions down the flanks and put in some great crosses into the area, if u had a striker thats ace in the air u would score many more goals!
Ace in the air? You must buy Robert Huth :P
Morientes19
07-06-2005, 11:07
Ace in the air? You must buy Robert Huth :P
a striker ace in the air i said, any way he wont move from the best team in england to the 2nd best!
Well, we need someone like Owen, who is expected to score all the time. It will ease the pressure off of Henry.
We desperately need Reyes to start scoring more consistently too. He was off to a flyer at the start of the season, but he struggled during the mid-season.
As for Pires, he's scored 14 goals in the EPL this year - more than any other midfielder. It's not bad for someone who is 31, is it?
Especially when you consider he was mostly on the bench. I think Wenger dumps 'older' players too soon. He did the same to Bergkamp and now he's doing it to Pires, even though they were still very much in form...
codename 47
07-06-2005, 11:22
Especially when you consider he was mostly on the bench. I think Wenger dumps 'older' players too soon. He did the same to Bergkamp and now he's doing it to Pires, even though they were still very much in form...
I think wenger does that because he doesn't want the older players being on something like £60,000 a week for the last few years of their career so they can have it cushy before their retirment
Owen to arsenal would be a good move i think,Him and henry would certainly cause alot of teams defences problems with their pace and off the ball runs
Stella Artois
07-06-2005, 11:28
Especially when you consider he was mostly on the bench. I think Wenger dumps 'older' players too soon. He did the same to Bergkamp and now he's doing it to Pires, even though they were still very much in form...
It's difficult to discuss Bergkamp with something who worships the ground he walks on. ;)
But, with Dennis, I actually feel he is stopping the young players progressing. I feel he would help Arsenal far more if he were to become a coach/player and look to help Van Persie progress considerably than continue to play regularly.
As for Pires, although he scores often, he has been missing during games a lot more this season.
-=[101st]=-
07-06-2005, 11:37
But, with Dennis, I actually feel he is stopping the young players progressing. I feel he would help Arsenal far more if he were to become a coach/player and look to help Van Persie progress considerably than continue to play regularly.
A good senior player should ALWAYS do that, always help the younger players and give them tips etc, maybe not to the extent that you're implying... i think bergkamp has to be there at the moment, he is your number 2 striker... better than reyes, who after the first month of the premiership did little to nothing.. well when compared to the first month anyway
codename 47
07-06-2005, 11:47
Not sure why reyes went off the boil after such a explosive start to the season
some say its because when it came to the winter he didn't like it,and when it came to the spring/summer he found his form again
also didn't help when he tried to link himself with a move to madrid many times
Stella Artois
07-06-2005, 11:52
=-']A good senior player should ALWAYS do that, always help the younger players and give them tips etc, maybe not to the extent that you're implying... i think bergkamp has to be there at the moment, he is your number 2 striker... better than reyes, who after the first month of the premiership did little to nothing.. well when compared to the first month anyway
Well, obviously I watch Arsenal week in and week out...and from what I see I honestly don't think Bergkamp is delivering the goods on a regular basis.
I would prefer to see Reyes, Van Persie and Aliadiere given a chance, as we all know what Dennis can do.
Scarface
07-06-2005, 11:59
I feel the perfect signing for Arsenal this summer would be Fernando Torres. He would be capable of 20 goals a season, he would add more to the attack rather than just being a good poacher. We don't necessarily need a targetman in my opinion, we just need someone to help take some of the goalscoring burden off Henry as he cannot be expected to do all the work up-front on his own against the top European teams.
Van Persie with Henry looks to be the most promising partnership for us at the moment, far better than Reyes and Henry. Reyes is mostly being used on the left wing now as Wenger must realise his not going to be a long-term partner for Henry, and only seems to play well as a striker when he is paired with RVP or DB10. I cannot see the Spaniard getting more than 15 goals in all competitions each year, he got off to an unbelieveable start and thats led to unrealistic expectations of him. He probably won't be a prolific goalscorer for us.
Then we have Quincy and Lupoli who we will start to see a lot more of, and David Bentley who can be a long-term successer to Bergkamp. Aliadiere could do excellent up-front with Henry, as he is good at heading, a superb finisher and has a lot of pace, and looks like he has worked a lot on his strength over the past year, but it seems that he might leave to try and get some first team football unfortunately. I could see Torres playing well in a 2 man frontline with any of our attackers so would be the perfect addition.
P.S. Markus Rosenberg (a targetman we had been heavily linked with) moved to Ajax over the weekend.
for me of what i've seen if he can sort his attitude out Quincy can quite easily be on the of the best players in the world
codename 47
07-06-2005, 12:16
Do arsenal fans think barca will be able to snare henry off arsenal this summer ?
as big speculation in spain suggests barca will sell e'too leaving them needing a replacement who barca want to be Henry :mellow:
Ronaldinho Pitches For Henry - Again
(http://www.goal.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=65801&idSez=20)
Stella Artois
07-06-2005, 12:19
I will quote a post I wrote in the 'Official Barcelona Thread':
Henry has stated time and time again that he has no desire to leave Arsenal. He has a British wife, he loves life in London, he is adored by everyone in England (even most United fan's like him) and he is Highbury's sweetheart if you will. He has absolutely no reason to leave, which makes me feel like Laporta is just trying to upset both Arsenal and Henry.
Now, please tell me why he would possibly want to leave.
codename 47
07-06-2005, 12:21
Any thing can happen in football,i never thought beckham would leave Man utd as there was a time when he was treated with love from both Sir Alex and the fans
i don't think it will happen but if barca offer £50mil,you think some board members would consider the deal ?
Ronaldinho Pitches For Henry - Again
(http://www.goal.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=65801&idSez=20)
Stella Artois
07-06-2005, 12:24
Abramovich supposedly went to Arsenal with a £70 million offer and Arsenal turned it down. We will never sell Henry, unless we absolutely have to.
Or unless he wants to leave, and I don't think he does.
Edit: And what's wrong with Ronaldinho coming to Arsenal? ;)
AgentZero
07-06-2005, 12:33
Dinho -> Henry id give that the go ahead for sure
codename 47
07-06-2005, 12:50
Abramovich supposedly went to Arsenal with a £70 million offer and Arsenal turned it down. We will never sell Henry, unless we absolutely have to.
Or unless he wants to leave, and I don't think he does.
Edit: And what's wrong with Ronaldinho coming to Arsenal? ;)
The 2 of them upfront would be almost unstopable :cool:
Darrenaldo
07-06-2005, 14:11
I feel the perfect signing for Arsenal this summer would be Fernando Torres. He would be capable of 20 goals a season, he would add more to the attack rather than just being a good poacher. We don't necessarily need a targetman in my opinion, we just need someone to help take some of the goalscoring burden off Henry as he cannot be expected to do all the work up-front on his own against the top European teams.
Then we have Quincy and Lupoli who we will start to see a lot more of, and David Bentley who can be a long-term successer to Bergkamp. Aliadiere could do excellent up-front with Henry, as he is good at heading, a superb finisher and has a lot of pace, and looks like he has worked a lot on his strength over the past year, but it seems that he might leave to try and get some first team football unfortunately. I could see Torres playing well in a 2 man frontline with any of our attackers so would be the perfect addition.
I totally agree, I think torres would be a good partener for henry and the attack. While he's not a target man, he has done the lone striker thing for athletico for ages, and he can head the ball (kinda like raul, good timing while not extraordinarily tall). His running and skill would cause problem to the defence. I think he's got a lot of owen like qualities, plus age is on his side, but he also has experince (played every league match for athletico).
Quincy: with the right chances could be the next henry OR a robben, ronaldo type player (depends how arsene plays him)
Bently: looks very good, but I don't know how we can have van persie and bently, unless bently plays on the wing (which he doesnt prefer to the hole). Matbe a frontline next year or 2 of Reyes, henry, torres, Bently. I dunno, we'll see........(maybe I'm chattin crap, or maybe I'm just what Arsene needs :P)
Scratch that, JUST GET DINHO!!!!! and all our problems solved 4 ever and ever and ever and ever.........
adams9802
07-06-2005, 15:27
It's just that he shouldn't take credit for something he didn't write.
really, did you read the whole post?.
king reyes
07-06-2005, 15:45
Chances of Henry going to Barca are the same of us signing Ronnaldinho(namely:zero)
I second whoever said we should get Torres,although I'd like to see Lupoli get a crack at the first team.Either of them could provide the aerial strength the team lacks. Speaking of that,here's a rather strange opinion on that matter,given by Kenny Sansom in Arsenal magazine:"Henry isn't the best in the air,but he's good enough,as good as Crespo."Hmm.....Don't know about that,Mr.Sansom.
Stella Artois
07-06-2005, 19:31
really, did you read the whole post?.
Indeed I did.
adams9802
07-06-2005, 20:02
Indeed I did.
Methinks not, Jonny2J highlighted the appropriate text.
Stella Artois
07-06-2005, 22:09
You've obviously misread what I said.
I said: He shouldn't take credit for it.
Now, as I was replying to someone who wrote, "nice post" or something to that affect, it's clear to me that I wrote it in a way that suggests you should get credit for something you didn't write, irrespective of whether you've said you didn't do it or not.
I hope that makes sense, too tired to care.
I'd like to see Lupoli get a crack at the first team.Either of them could provide the aerial strength the team lacks.
i wouldnt like to see Lupoli for a few seasons coz when ive seen him in carling cup he looked... shit.
but aparently hes gr8 in reserves... few seasons a reckon not next, he's like a feather
codename 47
08-06-2005, 08:51
I've reports that Stutgart player alexander Hlebs's agent has revealved that they are in talks with arsenal over a possible move but my by complecated as they've just sacked matthias sammer
I'll try and find a source on the story ;)
Viperized
08-06-2005, 16:15
Arsenal interest Hleb (http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=283200&CPID=22&CLID=&lid=2&title=Arsenal+interest+Hleb&channel=Football_Home)
Scarface
08-06-2005, 16:34
We supposedly now have competition from Chelsea for his signature. Rumour has it that his due to take a medical on Friday and could be unveiled as an Arsenal player by Friday night.
Our first signing of the summer has been made today in the form of promising Greek under-23 and Heerenveen striker Giannis Samaras.
However, the 20 year old will not join until the end of next season as he continues to gain experience in the Eredivisie.
Source (http://www.goal.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=66165)
edit: Actually, it seems not :rolleyes:
Link (http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=283225&cpid=8&CLID=3&lid=&title=Gunners+rumour+scotched&channel=Premiership)
Darrenaldo
08-06-2005, 18:49
those of us with skysports 1 or 2 can see hleb in action against scotland tonite at around 7-7.30 gmt. hope he scores a goal or 4 tonite, just to wet our appetites.
EDIT: scratch that, its not being televised, theyr showin the FAROE ISLANDS whoop-de-do!! (against ireland, so maybe of some interest, but i wanted hleb :( )
codename 47
08-06-2005, 19:32
We supposedly now have competition from Chelsea for his signature. Rumour has it that his due to take a medical on Friday and could be unveiled as an Arsenal player by Friday night.
Our first signing of the summer has been made today in the form of promising Greek under-23 and Heerenveen striker Giannis Samaras.
However, the 20 year old will not join until the end of next season as he continues to gain experience in the Eredivisie.
Source (http://www.goal.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=66165)
edit: Actually, it seems not :rolleyes:
Link (http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=283225&cpid=8&CLID=3&lid=&title=Gunners+rumour+scotched&channel=Premiership)
Hleb certainly looks alot older than 24 in that pic of him on skysports looks about 30 :)
http://skysports.planetfootball.com/images/playerpics04_05/football/germany/stuttgart/hleb_front.jpg
Him signing does that mean one of the wingers,ljugberg,pires or reyes may depart come the summer ?because Hleb i think is a good player and one,i think, warrants a first team place
Scarface
08-06-2005, 20:04
Hleb certainly looks alot older than 24 in that pic of him on skysports looks about 30 :)
http://skysports.planetfootball.com/images/playerpics04_05/football/germany/stuttgart/hleb_front.jpg
Him signing does that mean one of the wingers,ljugberg,pires or reyes may depart come the summer ?because Hleb i think is a good player and one,i think, warrants a first team place
I think they will all stay, but Hleb will add competition for all the midfield positions. Ljungberg said he wants us to show ambition in the transfer market and sign some experienced players, but he may regret making such a wish next season (if Hleb does indeed sign this summer), as I expect Hleb to be able to take Ljungberg's position on the right wing more often than not. Hleb is also being talked about as a replacement for Edu, but I think he may be a lot more effective on the wings in the Premiership, as his pace, dribbling and creativity would cause full backs a lot of problems. From what i've seen of him he reminds me of a cross between SWP and Pires.
king reyes
09-06-2005, 11:18
hes hideous
So is Ronaldinho.
Anyway, I've only heard about Hleb,and if he's anything like what I heard,then he could prove very useful if we sign him.
Viperized
09-06-2005, 16:00
Gunners 'close to £8m Hleb deal' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/4075880.stm)
adams9802
09-06-2005, 16:09
Gunners 'close to £8m Hleb deal' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/4075880.stm)
Yeah I dunno though, we never seem to buy people that are reported in the papaers. Wenger always seems to pull out deals from nowhere. But assuming so what does this mean for Freddie or Pires? I'd hate to see wither of them go, we need more experince if we are gonna try and crack Europe not less.
Stella Artois
09-06-2005, 16:19
We need another winger mate, we can't afford for Pires and Ljungberg to get injured - something that has occured quite often during the last two years.
Not to mention Freddie is being a primma donna about his new contract.
adams9802
09-06-2005, 16:25
We need another winger mate, we can't afford for Pires and Ljungberg to get injured - something that has occured quite often during the last two years.
Not to mention Freddie is being a primma donna about his new contract.
Aye, you're right. Although I think equally important is another striker and Keeper. As though it seems Senderos has turned out to be well worth the wait.
Stella Artois
09-06-2005, 16:30
Aliadiere needs to be given his chance.
Van Persie set two up for Hollan the other night and scored one, it's only a matter of time before he and Henry set up and explosive partnership.
king reyes
10-06-2005, 05:14
True that,Stella. But what about the keeper dilemma? Lehmann can barely jump, and Almunia is ,frankly,crap. I still say that Arsenal should try signing Morgan De Sanctis of Udinese.I would also suggest Timo Hildebrand,but he's just signed a 2-year extension with Stuttgart.
Solid Foxx
10-06-2005, 11:48
Arsenal should sign Kameni of Espanyol, but Wenger will probably go for Frey from Parma.
Scarface
10-06-2005, 12:08
Arsenal should sign Kameni of Espanyol, but Wenger will probably go for Frey from Parma.
There are rumours circulating that we are after Frey, and will wait for the result of Parma's relegation play-off before making a bid, as it will obviously be a factor in his price. I'd be very happy if we do sign either Frey or Kameni, both are top keepers, but i'd prefer Frey as I rate him slightly higher. The problem is both are International #1's, so either they or Jens Lehmann will be constantly whingeing throughout the season if they aren't in the team, and it would be even worse with Timo Hildebrand, as a fellow German to Lehmann.
That's why I think we may well sign a keeper such as Morgan de Sanctis who isn't an International #1.
I really do not want Frey, I used to think anyone would be better than Jens, but after seeing Frey, you'd think Barthez was his mentor.
Darrenaldo
10-06-2005, 17:56
The problem is both are International #1's, so either they or Jens Lehmann will be constantly whingeing throughout the season if they aren't in the team, and it would be even worse with Timo Hildebrand, as a fellow German to Lehmann.
frey isnt the france number1, barthez is then I think its coupet, havnt seen frey play for france in ages, if ever
Scarface
10-06-2005, 18:49
frey isnt the france number1, barthez is then I think its coupet, havnt seen frey play for france in ages, if ever
I haven't seen France play for a while now, but I heard he is the new #1 after Barthez received the lengthy ban for spitting at a ref, but maybe the info was incorrect. Personally, I think he would be brilliant at Arsenal, but if Wenger held him in such high regards i'd of thought he would have signed him before, so I think it's unlikely we'll sign him now.
Owen to Arsenal?? (http://www.arsenalshorts.com/0605/20050610.html)
I hope not, at least not for the price they mention. If we were to organise a player exchange for Owen i'd much rather Pires or Ljungberg left than Reyes, whose best years are still ahead of him.
I haven't seen France play for a while now, but I heard he is the new #1 after Barthez received the lengthy ban for spitting at a ref, but maybe the info was incorrect. Personally, I think he would be brilliant at Arsenal, but if Wenger held him in such high regards i'd of thought he would have signed him before, so I think it's unlikely we'll sign him now.
Owen to Arsenal?? (http://www.arsenalshorts.com/0605/20050610.html)
I hope not, at least not for the price they mention. If we were to organise a player exchange for Owen i'd much rather Pires or Ljungberg left than Reyes, whose best years are still ahead of him.
I agree fully mate, but I doubt Real will want Pires, even though he's quality...his 'over 30' label will put clubs like that off him. And as for Ljungberg, he will always be under-rated, and no other 'big' clubs will want him...But I see your point on Reyes, methinks he will be world class in the future.
king reyes
11-06-2005, 11:53
Ljungberg isn't wanted by the big clubs? Works for us! As for Reyes, the talent is there, he just can't seem to find the middle ground between over-confidence and shot nerves. This season, he's usually found himself either unable to do anything, or ,whenever he thinks he can,he always took it too far, resulting in him getting crunched and losing the ball. It's all in the head for Reyes. As for the keeper thing, I'd prefer Kameni to Frey. Frey is,like Lehmann, good but inconsistent.
Well...talk of keepers...here's another we are linked with!
Arsenal are reportedly on the trail of Slovakia international goalkeeper Kamil Contofalsky.
Gunners boss Arsene Wenger is tipped to bring in a new keeper during the summer, with neither Jens Lehmann or Manuel Almunia truly established as the number one.
Lehmann is expected to stay at Highbury next season but could have a new rival for the first team gloves.
Contofalsky has been linked with a move to Arsenal, having impressed during the past two years with Russian side Zenit St Petersburg.
The 27-year-old has played Uefa Cup football with Zenit and has also earned international recognition with Slovakia.
Zenit coach Vlastimil Petrzela alluded to Arsenal's interest in Contofalsky, although it is unclear if Wenger will bid for the shot-stopper.
Petrzela told www.profutbal.sk: "Everybody knows about Contofalsky and Arsenal."
And in terms of future planning...I THINK we signed young Mr. Hobbs for £100k. The future Sol Campbell I guess!
Arsenal are closing in on Lincoln City's promising young defender Jack Hobbs.
The 16-year-old has attracted the interest of both Arsenal and Manchester United, but it now looks as though The Gunners are in the driving seat.
Arsene Wenger is not usually known for bringing in English players, but he has had great success with the young players from across Europe that he has brought through the ranks at Highbury.
Young stopper Hobbs has now caught his attention and the FA Cup winners are now busy thinking over Lincoln's claim for compensation.
Hobbs is currently on apprenticeship forms at Sincil Bank and Imps boss Keith Alexander is keen to keep him with the League Two side - which is why he has turned down approaches to take Hobbs on trial.
Although all parties remain quiet on the deal, Hobbs' agent Charles Collymore says that a club has made an offer.
"I am not willing to name the club who has made the offer, but I would say it is certainly agreeable to everyone concerned," Collymore told the Lincolnshire Echo.
"I don't expect anything to happen immediately, but I'm expecting more news in the next two weeks.
"There has been a lot of interest from a number of London clubs, but only one has really followed it up.
"It is easy to understand why Jack is regarded as hot property.
"He is a good size and is English, and we all know how important it is to find talented home-grown players."
Hobbs became Lincoln's youngest ever player in January, but injury prevented him from building on his single late substitute appearance.
Alexander is a big fan though, and he will be sorry to see Hobbs leave the club should he secure his dream move to The Premiership.
"There have been enquiries to take Jack on trial, but so far I've turned them down because I want the lad to stay with us," said Alexander.
"I don't want him to go out on trial or loan with anyone else. I want him to learn his trade with us.
"Our best young players should remain at the club."
[Both from Skysports]
king reyes
13-06-2005, 10:54
Has anybody seen this Contofalsky fella before? Is he any good?
Duggano7
13-06-2005, 20:20
hey has anyone got this yet because im dieing to get one but they are limited edition and they have already sold out
http://img34.echo.cx/img34/4569/covers3xr.png (http://www.imageshack.us)
i hope they get back in stock
Darrenaldo
14-06-2005, 00:02
hey has anyone got this yet because im dieing to get one but they are limited edition and they have already sold out
http://img34.echo.cx/img34/4569/covers3xr.png (http://www.imageshack.us)
i hope they get back in stock
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WANT 1 NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Viperized
14-06-2005, 00:25
Me too!
Damnation...sold out already?
Scarface
14-06-2005, 18:58
I'm sure they'll get them back in stock...
Anyway, here are some clips of our Dutch wonderkid Quincy Owusu Abeyie.
Quincy - Holland u-20's v Japan u20's - *2MB* (Real Player) (http://www.arsenal4arab.net/Video/FifaYouthWorldCup/Quincy.rm)
Quincy - Holland v Japan again in much better quality *20MB* (3 mins long) (http://www.footballclips.net/quincy_owusu_abeyie_vs_japan)
Quincy Owusu Abeyie Compilation *23MB* (3 mins long) (http://www.footballclips.net/quincy_owusu_abeyie)
Dennis Bergkamp career compilation *****WARNING -150MB!!!***** (36 mins long) (http://www.footballclips.net/dennis_bergkamp_by_bennovg)
Robinho playing in his brand new kit next season :D
http://img202.echo.cx/img202/2444/godinholil25zm1pk.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
We can dream
This is the rumoured new Arsenal away shirt. Looks a bit fake to me, but the website I took this from published pics of the new Arsenal home kit a few days before it was officially unveiled, so maybe they could be onto something again. I hope they've got the colour right anyway, can't be having another season with a blue away kit.
<a href="http://img196.echo.cx/my.php?image=newawaykitbig7gv. jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img196.echo.cx/img196/4078/newawaykitbig7gv.th.jpg" border="0" alt="Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us" /></a>
How about the new Dutch starlet Mr. V. Persie...
Getting some action in Rotterdam. Apparently he's going to be held in custody - suspected rape. Must've been some girl that regretted losing her purity...
I hope he gets out of this messy thing.
I'm sure they'll get them back in stock...
Anyway, here are some clips of our Dutch wonderkid Quincy Owusu Abeyie.
Dennis Bergkamp career compilation *****WARNING -150MB!!!***** (36 mins long) (http://www.footballclips.net/dennis_bergkamp_by_bennovg)
The bergkamp compilation doesnt seem to work...
The quincy-comp (holland vs japan) is cool (even though it's just a straight port from the TV compilation ;) )
I hope he gets out of this messy thing.if the man is innocent then hopefully he'll be sorted and it won't harm his career, but if not then he should rot were all rapists deserve to be
adams9802
14-06-2005, 23:11
if the man is innocent then hopefully he'll be sorted and it won't harm his career, but if not then he should rot were all rapists deserve to be
Keep in mind he's been arrseted in connection with not charged with, slightly nuance of language but very important.
Robinho playing in his brand new kit next season :D
http://img202.echo.cx/img202/2444/godinholil25zm1pk.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
We can dream
This is the rumoured new Arsenal away shirt. Looks a bit fake to me, but the website I took this from published pics of the new Arsenal home kit a few days before it was officially unveiled, so maybe they could be onto something again. I hope they've got the colour right anyway, can't be having another season with a blue away kit.
<a href="http://img196.echo.cx/my.php?image=newawaykitbig7gv. jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img196.echo.cx/img196/4078/newawaykitbig7gv.th.jpg" border="0" alt="Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us" /></a>
Aha...great stuff! Nice to see the yellow shirt back...no more blue shirts...since we are a rather superstitious lot! HA! And that's a cool pic of Robinho...hahahahaha!
Mmmm... VP held for second day...so hopefully nothing more than helping with the investigation... :realmad:
Police hold Van Persie for second night
Arsenal footballer Robin van Persie will be held in custody on Tuesday night following his arrest in Rotterdam after an allegation of rape was made.
Van Persie, who has at present not been charged with any offence, will see a judge on Wednesday when a decision could be made on whether to lay charges or possibly to free the Holland international.
It will be a second night in the cells for Van Persie who was arrested on Monday evening.
Reports in Holland say the alleged incident took place on Saturday night and the alleged victim complained to police over the weekend.
The 21-year-old can be held for a maximum of three days without charge and a spokeswoman for the public prosecutor earlier explained: 'He is suspected of rape and our system is different to England.'
Arsenal have so far refused to comment on the alleged incident.
Van Persie was brought to Highbury for £2.75million for the start of last season, billed as the next Dennis Bergkamp.
The youngster was not a regular in the first team, although he impressed in his 14 starting appearances under manager Arsene Wenger.
He scored 10 goals in all competitions for the Gunners in his first season at the club, although there were questions raised about his temperament.
Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson was upset with van Persie's challenge on Kieran Richardson in a Carling Cup clash, although the Football Association took no action.
The Holland international was also sent off against Southampton at St Mary's for two wild tackles.
However, he started to show his promise towards the end of the season, netting twice in the FA Cup semi-final win against Blackburn. He required treatment after his second strike after getting flattened by Andy Todd as he wheeled away to celebrate.
Arrested with is different to charged with, true. I don't know anything about the legal/social status of rape in Holland, but in Israel all it takes is a complaint. I'm not saying it's good or bad, it has it's advantages and disadvantages.
If he's arrested it means that a complaint was filedl; that there was a shred of evidence; that they are still investigating. I hope it all clears up but like Jonny2J said if he's guilty then I hope he rots in jail. Unfortunately, in some jurisdictions (Israel being one of them) rapists are getting ludicrous serving times (like a year and 4 months), where the law allows for 14 years.
The agent of Stuttgart midfielder Aleksandr Hleb has confirmed that an announcement will be made tomorrow regarding a possible move to Arsenal.
Stuttgart have denied that Arsenal have made a bid of £8million for the 24-year-old, but Hleb is tipped to make a move to the Barclays Premiership.
Uli Ferber - the Belarus international's agent - said: "I cannot comment on anything for the time being. It has been agreed not to make any statement until tomorrow (Thursday).''
Uh...from Football365 (I think)
Well...maybe it'll happen...I'll be gutted if they announce Chelsea! Grrr....
Is Baptista on his way to Higbury? (http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=285268&cpid=23&CLID=3&lid=&title=Baptista+blow+for+Sevill a&channel=Premiership)
Darrenaldo
17-06-2005, 11:11
could we b about to see an evolved arsenal. The 'beast' baptista is good in the air, can hold up the ball and specialises in late runs into the box. With possibly hleb (mr assist- germany 2005) and baptista, could arsenal be about to break the 3rd dimension and play a wenger style of long balls and crosses? Arsene knows......
anybody seen baptista all season, videos, only really seen the seville matches televised (a few) and la liga highlights
adams9802
17-06-2005, 19:46
could we b about to see an evolved arsenal. The 'beast' baptista is good in the air, can hold up the ball and specialises in late runs into the box. With possibly hleb (mr assist- germany 2005) and baptista, could arsenal be about to break the 3rd dimension and play a wenger style of long balls and crosses? Arsene knows......
anybody seen baptista all season, videos, only really seen the seville matches televised (a few) and la liga highlights
nah, I think that the press is just getting desperate at this point. Wenger is waiting to see what happens with COle and Van Persie before he makes his moves.
Scarface
18-06-2005, 14:40
could we b about to see an evolved arsenal. The 'beast' baptista is good in the air, can hold up the ball and specialises in late runs into the box. With possibly hleb (mr assist- germany 2005) and baptista, could arsenal be about to break the 3rd dimension and play a wenger style of long balls and crosses? Arsene knows......
anybody seen baptista all season, videos, only really seen the seville matches televised (a few) and la liga highlights
http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~sivann/pub/Uploaded/JulioBaptista.wmv
ThierryHenry14
18-06-2005, 14:55
is that the real arsenal away shirt if it is i an defo getting it i have already pr-oerderd the arseal shirt from the official website you get a free band with it
wheres all these super star signings we were promised?
Scarface
20-06-2005, 16:01
is that the real arsenal away shirt if it is i an defo getting it i have already pr-oerderd the arseal shirt from the official website you get a free band with it
No, it's the rumoured away shirt, it hasn't been confirmed.
wheres all these super star signings we were promised?
It's still early days, we don't usually sign players this early. We aren't even back in pre-season training yet and lots of players are on their holidays, and the longer we wait to sign players, the more chance we have of finding some bargains.
Well, at there is SOME movement...and yeah...maybe the press are getting desperate. But it seems we are a little bit serious about Hleb anyway...
Gunners' Hleb bid snubbed
Stuttgart have rejected a bid for midfielder Aleksandr Hleb from Arsenal but the club are open to negotiations, keeping the deal alive.
The Gunners have reportedly offered the German club £5m for their 24-year-old Belarus international, but Stuttgart are looking for £10m.
Arsene Wenger is desperate to sign a midfielder to fill the void left by the departing Edu, who will complete a move to Valencia at the end of this month.
Stuttgart are willing to listen to improved offers for Hleb and are believed to be ready to negotiate over the price.
A Stuttgart spokesman said: "We have had an offer for Hleb from Arsenal but it wasn't enough and we have rejected that bid. He now has two options - he either stays at Stuttgart or goes to Arsenal."
Meanwhile, Arsenal's midfield may weaken further as the Gunners are considering selling Robert Pires if they cannot come to a solution over his new deal.
Pires has one year left on his current contract and has been offered another year by Arsenal.
However, the classy Frenchman wants a two-year deal which may prove difficult as it is Arsenal's policy not to offer players over 30 no more than one-year deals.
If nothing can be resolved soon, Arsenal may cash in on the 32-year-old with Valencia and Lyon thought to both be interested in signing Pires. From Teamtalk.com
Scarface
22-06-2005, 13:57
Arsenal Mania are reporting that the deal for Hleb is being delayed due to a bid being made for Shaun Wright-Phillips. I read yesterday we have made a bid of around £15m plus David Bentley, and we are now waiting for a response from Man City.
Arsenal-Mania has learned that an offer for Manchester City's Shaun Wright-Phillips is currently holding up the Hleb deal.
With both players playing in the same position [on the right of midfield], it seems that Arsenal want to wait to see if Manchester City are willing to sell.
Whilst the bid from Arsenal is considerable, there has also been an offer from Chelsea, and Manchester City are considering both bids.
For his part, Shaun Wright-Phillips has indicated to the City board that he wants a move to Arsenal.
WE will update this as we learn more.
While goal.com report that Arsenal hope to come to an agreement with Stuttgart by the end of the week.
Arsenal will hold new talks with Stuttgart over midfielder Aleksander Hleb in the next 48 hours.
Gunners manager Arsene Wenger seems determined to bring the Belarus international to Highbury, and The Guardian says the two clubs hope to agree a fee by the end of the week.
The Germans are looking for around £8 million for Hleb, who has also been linked with Chelsea.
It is also reported that Stuttgart could ask for bonuses depending on Hleb’s performances with his new club.
http://www.goal.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=68890
It's highly unlikely that we will get both (although Hleb is not always a right-winger for Stuttgart as some seem to think, he often plays on the left, and can play in the centre, but I can't see us buying 2 attack-minded midfielders) so who do you want it to be, SWP or Hleb? I'm sure most Arsenal fans would prefer SWP, but I think Hleb would be the better deal. His proven on the European and International stage, unlike SWP, would be at a much more realistic price, and is more versatile, but i'd be extremely happy for us to sign either. :cool:
I vote for Hleb, exactly as you have said Reyes9 - experience and proven ability. SWP is super too, but very overpriced in the UK market. I think we need some spare change to get a strike partner for Henry...unless Quincy, Aliadiere, R. Smith or Lupoli come through quickly! Heh heh...oh of course...BOTH would be nice...
Good luck to Skulason.
Arsenal defender Olafur-Ingi Skulason has signed a two-year deal with Brentford after being released on a free transfer.
Skulason told his new club's official website: "I look at this as a very important move for my career, a step up from reserve football, and knowing that [Brentford manager] Martin [Allen] had been interested in signing me for a while was a huge compliment for me. You always need to improve, and for me, I need to prove that I'm a league player, and prove Martin right, in that I'm the right player for this club."
http://www.footballrumours.info/article.php?artid=7485
Just out...it seems Bobby might be on his way...
23 June 2005
PIRES FOR SPAIN IN £2M DEAL
By Martin Lipton
ROBERT PIRES appeared on his way out of Arsenal last night as his agent began detailed talks with Valencia.
The Gunners have refused to budge after offering the 32-year-old midfielder only a 12-month extension on his contract at Highbury, which has only one season left to run, despite the French ace bagging 17 goals last term.
Pires, who wanted two years, broke off negotiations and told his advisors that he was willing to consider a move to end his Arsenal career after five seasons.
Agent Stephane Courbis has indicated to Valencia that Arsene Wenger is ready to let Pires go for around £2m as the Gunners boss begins the overhaul of his squad to take on champions Chelsea. The only stumbling block is the player's £50,000-a-week wages.
Valencia, who have shied away from Luis Figo because of his £90,000-a- week terms at Real Madrid, believe Pires can be persuaded to take a slight cut to enjoy an end to his top-flight career in La Liga and join up again with former Gunners team-mate Edu.
Pires almost joined Rafa Benitez at Valencia two years ago before deciding to stay at Arsenal. But it seems now that his Highbury career is over after 238 games and 73 goals.
Darrenaldo
23-06-2005, 09:15
Just out...it seems Bobby might be on his way...
this seems wierd, there will be disadvantages to him going, but at the same time many advantages (ie losing a winger who is 3rd top prem scorer, but gaining wingers willing to tackle and maybe play as wingers than foxes at times)
I feel a bit numb over the situation, just braced for a change good or bad
Scarface
23-06-2005, 09:29
I'd be surprised if we let him go, but if he does, the possibility of signing both Hleb and Wright-Phillips should be increased. I think we could regret it if Pires does go, we'd miss his 15-20 goals and numerous assists each year, and the important role he has in our freeflowing attacking. Shame that Pires is making a fuss over the contract, with a year extension we're offering on top of his current deal, he'd be out of contract by the time his almost 34 (I think), and if he is still performing well, would keep getting a year extention, as does Bergkamp, but he has mentioned a few times he'd like to finish his career in La Liga, and his likely to receive a big pay-off from Valencia, so I suppose we shouldn't be too surprised. :(
Scarface
23-06-2005, 10:32
Arsenal 2005/06 Fixtures
August
13 Newcastle (H)
20 Chelsea (A)
23 Fulham (H)
27 Liverpool (A)
September
10 Middlesbrough (A)
17 Everton (H)
24 West Ham (A)
October
1 Birmingham (H)
15 West Brom (A)
22 Man City (H)
29 Tottenham (A)
November
5 Sunderland (H)
19 Wigan (A)
26 Blackburn (H)
December
3 Bolton (A)
10 Newcastle (A)
17 Chelsea (H)
26 Charlton (A)
28 Portsmouth (H)
31 Aston Villa (A)
January
2 Man Utd (H)
14 Middlesbrough (H)
21 Everton (A)
31 West Ham (H)
February
4 Birmingham (A)
11 Bolton (H)
25 Blackburn (A)
March
4 Fulham (A)
11 Liverpool (H)
18 Charlton (H)
25 Portsmouth (A)
April
1 Aston Villa (H)
8 Man Utd (A)
15 West Brom (H)
17 Man City (A)
22 Tottenham (H)
29 Sunderland (A)
May
7 Wigan (H)
Ya beat me to it Reyes. Tough start...and interesting finish. Haven't seen Wigan play at all and I doubt that they would be a pushover...but wouldn't it be nice for a fairytale ending!?! HA!
Stella Artois
23-06-2005, 11:27
Guarenteed 3 points to start off.
Wonderful.
Very, very tough start. Easy finish.
Guarenteed 3 points to start off.
Wonderful.
Very, very tough start. Easy finish.but when we have Mark Viduka in the starting line-up how could that be... :( as long as it contributes to Souness getting the bullet ill be fine with donating the 3 points;)
Stella Artois
23-06-2005, 12:22
And who would you want as your manager then?
Remember you're hardly a big club right now in terms of on the field success...
And who would you want as your manager then?
Remember you're hardly a big club right now in terms of on the field success...and that's all down to Souness and the cunt of a chairman who can't keep his fat gob shut
i would have wanted Co Adriaanse before he went to Porto....... or maybe if we prey a miracle can be performed on Mrs O'Neill
Viperized
23-06-2005, 16:13
this seems wierd, there will be disadvantages to him going, but at the same time many advantages (ie losing a winger who is 3rd top prem scorer, but gaining wingers willing to tackle and maybe play as wingers than foxes at times)
I feel a bit numb over the situation, just braced for a change good or bad
If we lose Pires I am pretty sure Reyes might play on the wing or Hleb might.
Darrenaldo
23-06-2005, 18:31
If we lose Pires I am pretty sure Reyes might play on the wing or Hleb might.
I'd quite like to see quincy given a run in the first team eventually, tho i agree reyes or possibly hleb would be first choice should pires go to spain, but if we signed both hleb and SWP (highly unlikely) then hleb, another right footer, on the left would be good, but more for assists rather than pires' style of foxing in the box...ing?!!
We can only hope and see some good additions come to help us as a team. The young ones will surely get a chance...but even Quincy is being rumoured to be farmed off to Reggina for experience. So..who knows? Remember...Aliadiere is still pretty hot when he's not injured, and Lupoli is up and coming. We just got to give them a chance, especially if our big players are tired or injured.
Some anecdotal evidence of life outside of football:
Henry goes to Hollywood
Thierry Henry has reportedly been given a role in Spike Lees next movie "The Inside Man". The shooting for this movie will take place in short time, and will be about a huge bank-robbery. Henry will play against stars like Jodie Foster and Denzel Washington.
Will this be Henry's future after he retires from his football-career?
Could be very interesting...
From Frank's Blog Here (http://franksarsenalblog.blogspot.com/2005/06/henry-goes-to-hollywood.html) :lol:
Update on Hleb
Arsenal have been granted permission from VfB Stuttgart to open talks with Belarus midfielder Aleksander Hleb, according to reports.
Gunners boss Arsene Wenger, in Germany commentating on the Confederations Cup for French television, is keen to conclude the transfer quickly.
Wenger has reportedly already held preliminary talks with the player.
Stuttgart have agreed to sell the 24-year-old after Arsenal increased their offer to £6m.
New Stuttgart coach Giovanni Trapattoni has already made it clear the player can leave the club.
"It is fundamentally not a good idea to force a player to stay when they want to leave," he told Bild magazine. "The team is far more important than one individual."
Hleb has scored 13 goals in 137 Bundesliga appearances for Stuttgart, and has won 10 senior caps for Belarus.
The midfielder has three years left on his deal with the Bundesliga club.
Last week Hleb's agent insisted both Arsenal and Chelsea were interested in signing the Belarus midfielder.
"Chelsea are also genuinely interested, however Arsenal have priority as Arsene Wenger has been dreaming of having Alexsander in his team for two years now," said his representative Nikolai Spilevski.
From BBC Football
We can only hope and see some good additions come to help us as a team. The young ones will surely get a chance...but even Quincy is being rumoured to be farmed off to Reggina for experience. So..who knows? Remember...Aliadiere is still pretty hot when he's not injured, and Lupoli is up and coming. We just got to give them a chance, especially if our big players are tired or injured.
Some anecdotal evidence of life outside of football:
From Frank's Blog Here (http://franksarsenalblog.blogspot.com/2005/06/henry-goes-to-hollywood.html) :lol:
I think it would be best for Quincy to stay at Arsenal, so he keeps learning from Dennis and Thierry and the others... plus he's ready for REAL PL games.
With Robin maybe out for a couple of seasons :( we can really use a simular smart player who has good passes, and also alot of individual skill to be very very threatening... plus I think moving a young couple (quincy has a woman) around within 1-2 years wouldnt really be good for the relationship, thus for the player...
He should stay in London, and he should get play-minutes in the first team.
Yossi...you are really considerate! Wenger is a bit more gung-ho....he's going for another striker!
Arsenal have made a bid to sign Monaco's Emmanuel Adebayor and the striker admits it would be difficult to turn down a move to Highbury.
The Togolese forward had a good season with the Principality outfit last term, bagging nine goals in 34 games, and has experience of the UEFA Champions League.
Arsene Wenger is interested in raiding his former club in an attempt to land the lanky 21-year-old and pep up his attack.
"Considering what I know, Monaco received two firm transfer offers during the last weeks," Adebayor told France Football.
"One from Toulouse and a later one from Arsenal.
"For the moment, Monaco are not pursuing it. But I can tell you, it could change if I don't prolong my contract.
"You can't refuse a club like Arsenal.
"I think the two most tempting clubs to hire me are PSG and Arsenal.
"I like Paris and I like Marseille.
"Personally, I will do anything to find an agreement with Monaco.
"Monaco consider me to be an important player but they treat me as a young player from the academy."
French sources claim Arsenal are prepared to pay €8 million for the African attacker, who is determined to secure a wage hike.
From SkySports
Yossi...you are really considerate! Wenger is a bit more gung-ho....he's going for another striker!
From SkySportswho is he? lol
Well...Gung-ho is the word...heard of Robinho??
Sunday, June 26, 2005
Arsenal make £14m Robinho bid
Soccernet
Arsenal have made a £14million bid for Brazilian wonderboy Robinho after officials flew to Nuremburg last night to make a final check on the striker during the Confederations Cup semi-final against Germany.
The 21-year-old Santos star has been repeatedly linked with a move to Real Madrid but the Gunners have now have outbid the La Liga giants, who believed they could land the striker for approximately £10million, according to the Spanish media.
Arsenal chief scout Steve Rowley has made a number of trips to scout South American youngsters and Robinho, who has been likened to Ronaldinho because of his dazzling dribbling skills, is top of the list.
The Sao Paulo born player was heavily linked with a move away from Brazil following the kidnapping of his mother, Marina Lima de Souza, from a family barbecue in December last year. She was later returned after being held for ransom.
Real were the club most frequently mentioned with a swoop for the unsettled youngster and the Gunners can expect a transfer battle.
Sounds like a tough fight! ESPNSoccernet
Backing this up is Wenger talking of TWO star signings....Hleb and Robinho anyone?
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has vowed to bring in two world-class players and keep his star men in a bid to reclaim the Premiership title.
The Gunners finished 12 points behind champions Chelsea last season but Wenger, who has been linked with a £14m move for Brazilian star Robinho, says that they will prise the title away from their west London rivals.
"I will win back our place at the top of that table by putting into action plans I have been working on," he told the News of the World.
"It includes recruiting two world-class players to make us stronger."
Wenger is expected to sign Stuttgart midfielder Aleksander Hleb, while reports suggest that the Gunners boss has put in a bid for Santos striker Robinho.
The 21-year-old superstar has been courted by Real Madrid but the player's agent Juan Figer claims that Arsenal have now jumped to the front of the queue.
Wenger suggested that the players coming in may be dependent on any exits from Highbury.
But confirmed that Thierry Henry, Patrick Vieira and Robert Pires are going nowhere.
"There have been rumours about Thierry Henry and Barcelona," he added. "Of course I know about them but they're all just talk.
"They are rumours and they are unfounded and he isn't going anywhere.
"The same goes for Patrick. He will also stay with us for next season - as will Robert."
From Sportinglife.com
Guess this is why Stuart Taylor hasn't had many games...
Taylor swaps Highbury for Villa Park
Arsenal goalkeeper Stuart Taylor has agreed to join Aston Villa and will sign a four-year deal this afternoon after completing a medical.
The former England Under-21 international will provide back-up for first choice keeper Thomas Sorensen.
Taylor, 24, made 30 senior appearances for the Gunners and has also enjoyed loan spells with a number of clubs - most recently Leicester last term.
ESPNSoccernet
K.1.N.G.
27-06-2005, 15:37
strachan wants aliadiere for celtic next season on loan; wenger thinks its a good idea, him getting 1st team experience, plus he'd be getting european games, but AW said that, at the end of the day, its down to the player whether he wants to go
could be worthwhile to help him get over the injuries hes suffered in recent years - getn 1st team football all season, rather that springing off the bench for 10-15 mins every few weeks would be better for us in teh long run when he returns next summer....
Scarface
27-06-2005, 15:40
Backing this up is Wenger talking of TWO star signings....Hleb and Robinho anyone?
Nah, Adriano and Alessandro Nesta please ;)
I hope Hleb isn't classed as one of the world class stars, as he cannot be considered that yet. I'd like Fernando Torres and Ivan Cordoba.
edit: Robin van Persie has just been released from custody
VAN PERSIE RELEASED FROM CUSTODY
Arsenal star Robin van Persie has been released from custody in Holland after spending two weeks behind bars over rape allegations.
The 21-year-old striker had been custody in Rotterdam since being arrested on Monday June 13, after a woman claimed he launched a sex attack on her.
A prosecution spokeswoman said Van Persie had been released earlier on Monday afternoon and was now free to return to England.
She said he remained a suspect, but that it was no longer necessary to hold him for the purposes of the investigations.
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.dor?STORY_NAME=socce r/05/06/27/SOCCER_Van_Persie.html&TEAMHD=soccer
rondroid
27-06-2005, 20:42
Hleb deal has gone through!!!!!
now all he has to do is get a work permit and pass a medical :cool:
check the official site for more details (arsenal.com)
Darrenaldo
28-06-2005, 00:58
what language do they speak in Belerus, I know hleb will be well versed in german, but is that the national tongue? just curious for intergration purposes (which of kenyon's kliques he'll fit into)
Scarface
28-06-2005, 01:05
what language do they speak in Belerus, I know hleb will be well versed in german, but is that the national tongue? just curious for intergration purposes (which of kenyon's kliques he'll fit into)
The official languages in Belarus are Russian and Belarussian. Most of the people speak Russian.
http://www.ryerose.net/belarus.shtml
Belarus international midfielder, Alexander Hleb, has today agreed to join Arsenal from Bundesliga side VfB Stuttgart on a long term contract, in a deal which could rise to approximately €15 million Euros. This agreement is subject to a medical and the player obtaining a work permit.
Hleb (24), who made 137 appearances in his five years with Stuttgart and has 18 International caps for Belarus, is a versatile midfielder with experience of Champions League football, playing in all eight of Stuttgart’s matches in the 2003/04 competition.
Manager Arsène Wenger said: “We are delighted that Alexander Hleb has agreed to join us. He is a player I have admired for some time now and I know he will provide our squad with great quality. Hleb has proved his ability with his performances in the Bundesliga in recent seasons and he definitely has the potential to do very well with Arsenal.”
Alexander Hleb said: “I am very happy to have this fantastic opportunity to join Arsenal. They are a Club with a great history and many world class players.”
Alexander Hleb will join up with the Arsenal first team squad when they return for pre-season training in early July.
Alexander Hleb factfile:
Won Belarussian league Championship with FC BATE Borisov in 1999.
Experienced Under-21 international with 30 caps.
Scored on his first International start for Belarus, a 5-2 victory over Hungary in April 2002.
Runner-up in German Bundesliga with VfB Stuttgart in 2003.
Voted the Belarus Sportsman of the Year in 2002.
Played in all eight of Stuttgart’s UEFA Champions League matches in 2003/04, including both games against Manchester United, Chelsea and Rangers.
Played in Stuttgart’s 2002/03 UEFA Cup campaign, including both legs of 4-5 aggregate defeat in Fourth Round against Celtic, in which he scored in the 3-2 second leg win in Stuttgart.
http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?article=287700
Nah, Adriano and Alessandro Nesta please ;)
I hope Hleb isn't classed as one of the world class stars, as he cannot be considered that yet. I'd like Fernando Torres and Ivan Cordoba.
HAHA! I like that Reyes9!! OK...you have me there...Torres any day! Might keep Antonio happy with a buddy as well!
Good news all around (with the exception of Taylor I guess)
http://www.anr.uk.com/articles/i-2005-06-27-18-52-42.html
codename 47
28-06-2005, 16:35
Arsenal fans i wouldn't get hopes up about the signing robinho as his agent says he has no intention of handing their offer to the santos president
The Gunners are reportedly ready to top Real Madrid’s £11.3 million bid for the player, but Wagner Ribeiro says Robinho prefers the Spanish style of play.
"I will not take the Arsenal proposal to Santos president Marcelo Teixeira as they do not have a chance of signing the player," Ribeiro told Brazilian TV.
Although there is work still to be done, the smart money remains on Robinho ending up at the Bernabeu.
Arsenal Have ‘No Chance’ With Robinho (http://www.goal.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=70019&idSez=12)
ThierryHenry14
28-06-2005, 16:44
i think he should come here edu and gilberto should try and persuaed him he will be more respected here
king reyes
28-06-2005, 17:01
Ah,let Robinho rot. He'd probably break his leg in his very 1st game in the prem considering his build.I haven't seen Hleb play that much.Can anyone here tell me how good he is?I've heard he's a quick ,agile player with good skills.
yer let the future best player in the world rot all he wants... how can a player break his leg when defenders can't catch him? someone got sour grapes perhaps?
Ah,let Robinho rot. He'd probably break his leg in his very 1st game in the prem considering his build.I haven't seen Hleb play that much.Can anyone here tell me how good he is?I've heard he's a quick ,agile player with good skills.
Here ya go mate...
'Hleb was one of the best players in the Bundesliga'
Alexander Hleb
By Chris Harris
Aside from fleeting glimpses of him in the Champions League, most Arsenal fans won't have seen Alexander Hleb in action.
The Belarus midfielder completed his move to Highbury on Monday but remains an unknown quantity for many supporters. What are his qualities? What is his best position? What will he bring to Arsène Wenger's side?
Raphael Honingstein, a sports journalist for German newspaper Suddeutsche Zeitung, monitored Hleb during his five-year spell with Stuttgart in the Bundesliga. He believes Hleb is a worthy addition to the Arsenal squad.
"Hleb is a classic No 10," Honingstein told Arsenal.com. "He's most happy to be behind the stikers, almost like a classic playmaker. He likes to make things happen.
"Technically he was one of the best players in the Bundesliga. People have talked about him playing wide but he's not really a winger at all. He started there at Stuttgart because, at the time, Krasimir Balakov was in the centre.
"For the last few years he moved into a central role and became the focal point of every attacking move at Stuttgart. Everything went through him. He's very tricky, excellent on the ball and likes to look for the killer pass.
"People have said that he doesn't score enough goals when you consider how gifted he is, but he gets lots of assists. That was his main role at Stuttgart."
Balakov, a Bulgarian international who won 75 caps for his country, was clearly an influence on Hleb's career. He took the Belarussian under his wing when Hleb moved to Germany and supported him on and off the pitch.
"Hleb came over to Germany at a young age and learned from Balakov," says Honingstein. "They worked closely together, Balakov acted as his translator and they spoke Russian on the pitch to fool defenders.
"Hleb came in when Balakov was at his peak and he eventually stepped into his shoes, taking over Balakov's mantle. Hleb has achieved a lot in a short time and Balakov had a role in that."
Arsenal's new recruit has grown accustomed to a central role in recent seasons but it will be interesting to see how Wenger deploys him. Thierry Henry, Lauren and Emmanuel Petit all adapted successfully to new roles after arriving at Highbury, and pre-season should give us a few clues about how Hleb will fit in.
But whichever position he ends up in, Honingstein is confident Hleb will be a success. "Skillwise and technically he's brilliant," he concludes. "When things go right for him, it is beautiful to watch."
From Arsenal.com
ThierryHenry14
29-06-2005, 08:41
back to robinho wasn't suppsoed to be going to real madrid at the end of the last season 04/05
Now THIS is interesting...
Juve Offer 10 Million Dollars For Robinho – Report
6/29/2005 6:20:00 AM
The Bianconeri want 40% of the player now before bringing the player to Italy in 2008.
Juventus are on the verge of making a shocking and unexpected transfer move as the Italian giants is the last team to join the Robinho race. The daily Brazilian newspaper, ‘Estado de S. Paulo’ reported that Luciano Moggi offered 10 million dollars for 40% of Robinho.
The Old Lady wants to keep the player at Santos up till 2008 and then bring him to Serie A in 3 years time. This move was confirmed by the player’s agent, Wagner Ribeiro, who declared that the Bianconeri “introduced a new important element”.
Robinho is also followed by Real Madrid and Arsenal, with the English side offering 21 million Euros for the young Brazilian talent.
From Goal.com
In interesting and quite smart move!
fattyronaldo
29-06-2005, 14:58
back to robinho wasn't suppsoed to be going to real madrid at the end of the last season 04/05
madrid signed an agreement with him and have first option. i think they didnt want to close the deal as it may anger some brazillians and get some more family members kidnapped.
Apparently Dein flew to Spain to do the Baptista deal! HA!
Apparently Dein flew to Spain to do the Baptista deal! HA!:ohmy:
http://www.worldfootballers.com/news.php?id=6983
Here ya go matey...
Scarface
01-07-2005, 14:10
Worldfootballers is one of the most unreliable football websites, but let's hope it's true. He would add a new dimension to our team, but last I heard, would not be granted a work permit due to lack of caps for Brazil.
Viperized
01-07-2005, 16:33
We are currently leaders on capturing Baptista:
http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=288457&lid=2&cpid=8&title=Gunners+move+for+Baptist a&channel=football_home
Fraz_Maitland
01-07-2005, 16:41
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/4641381.stm
Abeyie signs new deal and 2 of the youngsters sign proffesional contracts.
Worldfootballers is one of the most unreliable football websites, but let's hope it's true. He would add a new dimension to our team, but last I heard, would not be granted a work permit due to lack of caps for Brazil.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Thanks R9!!! Fine...I'll steer away from that site then...try this:
Apparently Seville turned down 9M (+3 depending upon performance)....
http://www.goal.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=71135
Scarface
04-07-2005, 11:16
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Thanks R9!!! Fine...I'll steer away from that site then...try this:
Apparently Seville turned down 9M (+3 depending upon performance)....
http://www.goal.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=71135
I think that was just testing the water, we would never get him for as little as 9m euros, more like 20. Fingers crossed he can get a work permit sorted and we have a bid accepted. Arsenal Mania are reporting that we have had a bid (£17m) for SWP accepted along with other club(s) and it's now up to SWP to decide whether to move or stay at City.
Apparently read somewhere that because Brazil has a high co-efficient...it makes it easier for Baptista to join, even though he has only played something like 13 internationals, rather than the 20 (?) needed.
Ah....here we are...The Luiz Fabiano transfer throws something into the ring for us as well...so it's sounding like it just might happen...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,27-1680820,00.html
Interesting post from ANR
http://www.anr.uk.com/articles/m-2005-07-05-09-10-47.html
Dunno how authoratative that is...but looks good for us!