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martin_cranie

10-07-2008, 23:32

I think it'll be a great shame to lose him. I think a lot of fans are overly critical of his lack of goals: his value to the team with his work rate, passing, dribbling, and positional flexibility is very substantial in my opinion.

I don't want him to leave, but I see no reason to have anything against him if/when he does. He has always, contrary to the bogus reports in the tabloids recently, acted professionally, and I hope that Arsenal fans bare that in mind. He's no Adebayor, that's for sure.

ATH10

11-07-2008, 00:09

Nicklas Bendtner - other than Eduardo - is the most natural goalscorer at Arsenal.

Bendtner more clinical than Van Persie?

Gooner10

11-07-2008, 00:16

How about Martins...what's everyone's view on him?

Dundon's

11-07-2008, 01:18

He's no Adebayor, that's for sure.

You're right there dude he isn't, I'm just sorry to lose him above all players as he was my favorite.

ThierryHenry14

11-07-2008, 10:17

Arsenal have signed French international midfielder Samir Nasri on a four-year contract from Marseille.

The highly-rated 21-year-old joins for an undisclosed fee.

"I am very happy to become an Arsenal player, it means such a lot to me," he said.

"This is a very important step in my life as a football player because Arsenal is a massive club.

"I really hope everything will go well for me here. I will try my best for Arsenal and its fans and I am honoured to be part of such a great football club."

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger is thrilled with the acquisition, which reinforces his reputation for luring the best young talent in Europe to North London.

"We are delighted to be signing Samir Nasri. He is young, quick and technically an outstanding player," he said.

"He has shown great potential with his performances for Marseille and the French national team over the past two seasons and he will add great quality to our squad."

A further bulletin on Nasri's website apologised to Marseille fans.
Finally.

wrigh2uk

11-07-2008, 10:50

http://www.arsenal.com/images/n/nasri_samir2.jpg

:smug:

wrigh2uk

11-07-2008, 10:57

What do you lot make of Hleb wanting to go? At least with Barca you can see he's looking to move to another team that likes to get the ball down and play, so it can't just be about the money. I heard he doesn't like living in London either.

I do believe he moved because he generally didn't settle in London. You see Hleb he looks like a really quiet guy, keeping himself to himself and living in the capital just isn't quiet is it. The night life, the paperazzi I just think he never go used to it all

ThierryHenry14

11-07-2008, 11:06

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1066/wpnasri1024uy3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

DJ Clue

11-07-2008, 11:59

Yay!

He has finally joined us and that shirt looks nice on him.

ThierryHenry14

11-07-2008, 12:54

8. Samir Nasri as I expected.

Dragonfly

11-07-2008, 13:04

8. Samir Nasri as I expected.

Sorry, I'm all out of medals.

ThierryHenry14

11-07-2008, 13:05

Damn.

Nturtle

12-07-2008, 06:54

I'd like to see Vela back as well...but I guess we'll have to wait til later!

Meyyappan

12-07-2008, 09:41

To say he went missing when we needed him most is silly, considering the 10 or so games where he carried us on his back goal-wise. Unfortunately for us when Adebayor did stop scoring no one else stepped up to the plate ala Freddie in 01/02 and took the burden upon themselves.

Yeah but still he got so many chances in the old traford game if he had scored the opener in the first half we would have not only won the game but also the league!!!

So much would have changed,the season would have been a success with all our players staying including flame-boy

While for the freddie part its our bad luck as usual with eduardo,rosicy,persie all out and rusted.................

AgentZero

12-07-2008, 09:47

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1066/wpnasri1024uy3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

looks like an awkward kid.

Meyyappan

12-07-2008, 13:36

Some good news for us:

ARSHAVIN EYES ARSENAL MOVE

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/premiership/arsenal/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=socce r/08/07/12/manual_101103.html&TEAMHD=arsenal&DIV=prem&TEAM=ARSENAL&RH=Arsenal&PREV_SEASON=

Some very bad news as it seems we are becoming stupid it seems ades agent seems to claim we have halved our asking price come on we need the money:

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=inter national_feed/08/07/12/SOCCER_Ita-AC_Milan_Adebayor.html&TEAMHD=soccer

But it seems gallini has halted the chase:

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/premiership/arsenal/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=socce r/08/07/12/manual_110341.html&TEAMHD=arsenal&DIV=prem&TEAM=ARSENAL&RH=Arsenal&PREV_SEASON=

While our young starlet carlos vela has scored 3 goals in just as many games in internationals..........

We really dont need those who dont want to play for us sell ade in cash (to us) + yaya deal,sell helb as well and get arshavin finally buy a tall back up centre back and we are done for the summer.

We shall have very good squad depth as well we just have to blend the new players in the team,while buying striker or not depends on wenger if he doesnt fine i shall trust the options we have................

wrigh2uk

12-07-2008, 14:05

Andrei Arshavin's agent claims the Russian playmaker is 'desperate' to join Arsenal.

The Zenit St Petersburg ace is expected to leave his current club before the close of the transfer window.

He has been heavily linked with a move to Barcelona after admitting the Spanish giants are his 'dream' club.

But Barca's bid for the schemer fell well short of Zenit's valuation, while Arshavin's representative Dennis Lachter has claimed an unnamed English club have offered £19million.

Desperate
Lachter says Zenit want £24million for the 27-year-old, who has been linked with Premier League rivals Arsenal and Chelsea.

The player's agent, though, has suggested that Arshavin would welcome the opportunity to move to Emirates Stadium.

"Andrei is desperate to join Arsenal," said Lachter in the Daily Mirror.

"His style of play would suit them perfectly."

Arsenal have completed the signing of French playmaker Samir Nasri from Marseille, but are set to lose Alexander Hleb to Barcelona.

SSN...

Zenit must be out of there goddam mind if they think anyone is coughing up 24 mill for him though

CaptainCabinet

12-07-2008, 14:13

SSN...

Zenit must be out of there goddam mind if they think anyone is coughing up 24 mill for him though

I believe they used the same scale which gave you 30m for Adebayor. ¬_¬

wrigh2uk

12-07-2008, 14:25

I believe they used the same scale which gave you 30m for Adebayor. ¬_¬

Thats the credit crunch for ya :cool:

Keyser Soze

12-07-2008, 14:27

Yeah but still he got so many chances in the old traford game if he had scored the opener in the first half we would have not only won the game but also the league!!!

So much would have changed,the season would have been a success with all our players staying including flame-boy

While for the freddie part its our bad luck as usual with eduardo,rosicy,persie all out and rusted.................
I know people have got to the point where you just ignore him now but.. my god.

Meyyappan

12-07-2008, 14:52

I believe they used the same scale which gave you 30m for Adebayor. ¬_¬

Adebayor is a tried and tested in the best league in the world while also he has not yet peaked and is still only 24 years old..............

I would say 18m would be a fair price for Arshavin

While for Ade=Yaya toure + 7m would be more or less fair

and finally for helb spot on at 15m

While cristiano 50m pound sterling................

:unsure::unsure::unsure::erm:: erm:

Zoolander

12-07-2008, 14:54

Reading this thread makes me angry.

CaptainCabinet

12-07-2008, 15:36

I know people have got to the point where you just ignore him now but.. my god.

'this.

Gooner10

12-07-2008, 15:53

There still seems to be interest in that Riverplate striker Falcao or whatever his name is, he looks good on the youtube vids :) but you can't really rely on that unless you're Sven

Usul

12-07-2008, 18:34

I'd like to see Vela back as well...but I guess we'll have to wait til later!
He's available in the Premiership's Fantasy League.

RB14 ARSENAL

12-07-2008, 19:05

Adebayor is a tried and tested in the best league in the world while also he has not yet peaked and is still only 24 years old..............

I would say 18m would be a fair price for Arshavin

While for Ade=Yaya toure + 7m would be more or less fair

and finally for helb spot on at 15m

While cristiano 50m pound sterling................

:unsure::unsure::unsure::erm:: erm:

What are you talking about? :shocking:

Barca won't exchange Yaya Toure so why keep discussing him in the thread??

ThierryHenry14

12-07-2008, 19:09

Arshavin isn't worth more than £15 mill in my opinion he even said on BBCi that he might of priced himself out of a move to another club.

RB14 ARSENAL

12-07-2008, 19:11

Arshavin isn't worth more than £15 mill in my opinion he even said on BBCi that he might of priced himself out of a move to another club.

Don't see the point in Arsene signing him when Nasri has just joined.

DJ Clue

12-07-2008, 19:58

Isn't he 27 or something?

RB14 ARSENAL

12-07-2008, 20:11

Isn't he 27 or something?

Yeah he's 27.

God knows how he's been playing years before Euro 2008.

Arsene is clever and signs players young, and who have great potential.

Arshavin is at the peak of his career, a late starter it seems.

DJ Clue

12-07-2008, 23:38

I know.

I say fuck him and buy decent defender, a striker and a goalkeeper.

24 million for Arshavin, Zenit can fuck 'em selfs as far as i care.

Dundon's

13-07-2008, 00:09

Careful lads, the very same things were said about Bergkamp when we bought him too at the time. I believe Arshavin has something special to offer.

P.S. Ian Wright.

Jonny2J

13-07-2008, 00:14

Careful lads, the very same things were said about Bergkamp when we bought him too at the time. I believe Arshavin has something special to offer.

P.S. Ian Wright.Can't say I remember any of those at all.

Dundon's

13-07-2008, 00:27

Jonny2J

13-07-2008, 00:29

Bergkamp came with a massive price tag and it took him a few seasons to adapt, in that time he got his fair share of Donkey ears off the papers.

My point anyways is despite the age I would take into account he is a special talent, 24m is too high but we'd get him for under 20m.It never man, it took him a while to score his first goals against Southampton but he still looked class, just the press made something about him not scoring like they do.

Dundon's

13-07-2008, 00:31

Dude, this was the biggest thing to ever happen to me at the time, it took him a few seasons to "put his stamp" on the premiership.

We all knew he was gifted but he did raise questions after his first season.

martin_cranie

13-07-2008, 00:38

Adebayor is a tried and tested in the best league in the world while also he has not yet peaked and is still only 24 years old.

Yeah but still he got so many chances in the old traford game if he had scored the opener in the first half we would have not only won the game but also the league!!!

Some very bad news as it seems we are becoming stupid it seems ades agent seems to claim we have halved our asking price come on we need the money:

Were you a stillborn child, by any chance?

Adebayor 'tried and tested'?! Have you ever heard of something called consistency? Or do you think Milan Baros is one of the best strikers in the world? After all, he was amazing for about 5 games in Euro 2004.

Improve your posting.

Dundon's

13-07-2008, 00:59

Getting back on track.

What are we going to do for a goalkeeper? There's lots of Shay Given talk knocking about, he seems committed to the cause though.

We also have the Barry speculation, I'm not impressed.

martin_cranie

13-07-2008, 01:16

Given won't leave Newcastle. Almunia isn't a bad keeper at all, but without wishing to be snobbish, we could and should do better. I very much doubt that Wenger will bring in another goalkeeper this summer though. If he does, I doubt we'll have heard of him. All the big targets are too expensive while we have more pressing outfield concerns. Shame Jaaskelainen signed a new contract with Bolton. I would have quite liked to have him in the squad.

Barry's a good player, but if Wenger does sign another central midfielder I think he'll be more defensively robust. The fact that Villa think he's worth £18m is a considerable obstacle too, assuming Wenger is actually contemplating a move.

I'm not so sure we need another central midfielder though. As cool as it is to hope in vain that Barcelona will be stupid enough to hand us Yaya, it's never going to happen. I actually have a lot of faith in Song. If he can get some games and gather confidence, ala ACN, I think we'll have found our defensive midfielder for the next decade.

Dundon's

13-07-2008, 02:38

Yea I felt so sorry for him in the ACN when he went on that mazey run and got caught for the goal, upto that he was outstanding.

I don't mind him either to be honest, he done well in CB when called upon last season and is busy. I have faith in Wenger's judgment on that position, if he thinks we need a new DM he'll get one in.

Last I heard Gilberto is gone, big season for Denilson maybe?

RB14 ARSENAL

13-07-2008, 08:55

Yeah, he is discussing personal terms with Panathinaikos to move there.

Denilson is more of an attacking midfielder but is able to defend, so would it work with Cesc?? If Denilson continues to develop then yes it should work. I feel Diaby would be a better partner for Cesc because he is strong, tall, and can tackle. He is a bit like Vieria if you like :w00t:

Nasri and Cesc in the middle ?? Two very much attackers in the centre of midfield?

If they were to play them 2 in the middle then maybe there would have to be a man sitting behind them just in front of the defence. That would allow Cesc and Samir to bomb forward and help out the strikers.

But Nasri is Hleb's replacement in my eyes so he'll play right wing. Maybe Theo's ready to play up front, now he is no.14 :cool:

This formation would be possible and could work had Lassana Diarra not left Arsenal :no:

They should have loaned him to Pompey, he really looked quality to me.

pistolpete

13-07-2008, 12:48

If there is any chance that the Bareth Barry rumours are true, then that would be very surprising.

If we are in the market for a defensive central midfielder - how much would Miguel Veloso set us back? Not seen much of him but i thought he was excellent against Man Utd in the CL last season, and heard some good things about him.

Jonny2J

13-07-2008, 12:54

RB14 ARSENAL

13-07-2008, 12:59

His injuries have ruined him.

Before that, he was one of the if not the best 'keeper in the England League.

Gareth Barry would definately solve the problem in midfield. Miguel Veloso is also quality and would be a more realistic signing as he is valued 18m and he's youthful.

---Nasri---Cesc---Barry---Rosicky/Theo

:cool: :w00t

Barry or Veloso?? you decide ;)

CaptainCabinet

13-07-2008, 13:06

RB14 ARSENAL

13-07-2008, 13:08

You won't get either.

Jesus the club themselves have stated you'll need to sell your big stars to pay off your stadium debts, I don't know how much you got Nasri for, but can you really expect another big money signing?

If Adebayor is sold then yes. But if he is sold, that means Arsene would splash cash on a striker and not Barry or Veloso.

Hmmmmm this is a toughie

CaptainCabinet

13-07-2008, 13:16

If Adebayor is sold then yes. But if he is sold, that means Arsene would splash cash on a striker and not Barry or Veloso.

Hmmmmm this is a toughie

If you believe the press you need 24m to pay off your stadium debts per year.

At the moment, from selling players, you have made 0m.
Even if you sell Hleb for 15m, and Ade for 15m (Considering that you will never sell him for anywhere near 30m). That still only leaves you +6m, take out what you paid for Nasri and I say you're in trouble.

Considering Veloso will cost 7m at the least, and Barry perhaps double that, I'm confident in my original statement.

RB14 ARSENAL

13-07-2008, 14:02

If you believe the press you need 24m to pay off your stadium debts per year.

At the moment, from selling players, you have made 0m.
Even if you sell Hleb for 15m, and Ade for 15m (Considering that you will never sell him for anywhere near 30m). That still only leaves you +6m, take out what you paid for Nasri and I say you're in trouble.

Considering Veloso will cost 7m at the least, and Barry perhaps double that, I'm confident in my original statement.

:no: :mellow:

What a terrible situation Arsenal are in :(

How many years will they need to pay 24m in order to pay off the debtors ??

Arsenal need some trophies next year.

CaptainCabinet

13-07-2008, 14:36

Arsene Wenger thinks Arsenal will probably have to sell their star players every year for nearly another two decades.

Wenger is currently trying to persuade Emmanuel Adebayor and Alexander Hleb not to follow Mathieu Flamini out of the club.

Adebayor has made it clear only a huge wage increase will persuade him to stay, but Wenger has revealed the ongoing cost of the move to the Emirates Stadium two years ago means, financially, his hands are tied.

"The strategy of the club is to sell every year and to buy less expensive players," he told the News of the World.

"We manage at Arsenal to maintain all our football ambitions - national and European - while having to free up - for 17 more years - an annual surplus of £24million to pay for our stadium.

"The club's strategy is to favour the policy of youngsters ahead of stars and to count on the collective quality of our game."

Wenger is frustrated by the financial power players have over clubs.

"If I had the power to change anything basic in football, it would be the transfer system which makes mercenaries of players," he continued

"If they are bad ones, they stay and, if they are good, they think only of leaving.

"I have fought for them to earn a very good living, but I impose respect for their contract upon them." .
.

RB14 ARSENAL

13-07-2008, 14:52

Thank's for clearing that up ;)

JoeyM

13-07-2008, 16:52

Right, because as that artice states, we have to raise the entire 24m off of player sales alone and it's impossible that we already have some amount of surplus coming from last season.

If you believe the press you need 24m to pay off your stadium debts per year.

At the moment, from selling players, you have made 0m.
Even if you sell Hleb for 15m, and Ade for 15m (Considering that you will never sell him for anywhere near 30m). That still only leaves you +6m, take out what you paid for Nasri and I say you're in trouble.

Considering Veloso will cost 7m at the least, and Barry perhaps double that, I'm confident in my original statement.

Because it really is that simple.:rolleyes:

Somebody tell Wenger he wasted his time getting that economics degree.

pistolpete

13-07-2008, 19:24

Im certain that Wenger says things like this so that when he go's in for a player he doesnt look desperate and push the price right up.

anyway Aw and the board have both consistantly stated that the team comes first and that there is money to spend.

He knew about the debt when he splashed big bucks on reyes and walcott.

Anyway its a long term thing - to say that we are in trouble is a long way off.

Gooner10

13-07-2008, 19:51

We do have money coming from other places than the sale of players..think merchadise etc which I think is the point, we do have money to buy but Wenger doesn't want to drive up the prices he's paying...that's the reason CSKA Fulham pay so much for players because it's obvious they can so clubs push for all they can get out of them

ThierryHenry14

13-07-2008, 19:57

CSKA Fulham?

RB14 ARSENAL

13-07-2008, 22:26

CSKA Fulham?

Have Fulham been taken over by Russians ??

:erm:

Gooner10

13-07-2008, 22:30

Just a nickname for Chelsea....it's not too hard to work out lol. Anyway I was talking about Chelsea (Stamford Bridge is actually in Fulham and obviously the Russian connection)

ThierryHenry14

13-07-2008, 22:30

LoL looks like it.

RB14 ARSENAL

13-07-2008, 22:34

Just a nickname for Chelsea....it's not too hard to work out lol. Anyway I was talking about Chelsea (Stamford Bridge is actually in Fulham and obviously the Russian connection)

Why not CSKA Chelsea ?

nickpring

13-07-2008, 22:38

Just a nickname for Chelsea....it's not too hard to work out lol. Anyway I was talking about Chelsea (Stamford Bridge is actually in Fulham and obviously the Russian connection)

:lol:

Not heard that one before.

Yossi

13-07-2008, 22:38

Why not CSKA Chelsea ?

Because Stamford Bridge is in Fulham. It is explained in the post you quoted :/

Gooner10

13-07-2008, 22:38

Just taking the piss, I'll be more obvious with my humour in future then :). Anyway back to talking about Arsenal...

Keyser Soze

13-07-2008, 22:41

In this thread, you need to dumb it down as much as possible it seems. Fucking hell.

DJ Clue

13-07-2008, 22:47

Just wish someone would buy Asrenal, Kronke?

Viperized

13-07-2008, 23:01

Just wish someone would buy Asrenal, Kronke?
That will make matters worse with regards to our debt.

Gooner10

13-07-2008, 23:14

I wouldn't want to see the club sell out, not sure why but it just seems unnecessary at the moment

Nifty1Pound50

13-07-2008, 23:49

I am an Arsenal fan representing PESGaming.

I am woe.

K.1.N.G.

13-07-2008, 23:49

If you believe the press you need 24m to pay off your stadium debts per year.

Theres the important point imho!

In AW I trust.

Dundon's

14-07-2008, 01:56

Has any of you been following the top 50 Arsenal players of all time list they update weekly?

Dunno if I'd agree with most of it, well the order anyways.

http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?article=490880

Freddie at 11 ahead of Smith and Merson, Keown, Winterburn!!!!????!!!sfbkfjsbj f???!!??

papa

14-07-2008, 01:57

Care to post?

Dundon's

14-07-2008, 02:01

I added the link, Bergkamp better get 1st.

papa

14-07-2008, 02:16

Ah thanks. Ljungberg is an odd one. As is Ashley Cole. Kanu's placement surprises me also.

Keyser Soze

14-07-2008, 02:18

You could pick at that all day though really, same with most of these lists.

papa

14-07-2008, 02:21

What are we predicting the order of the top 5 will be then?

Bergkamp
Henry
Wright
Viera
Adams

Dundon's

14-07-2008, 02:43

That'd be mine except swap Vieira with Adams.

I'm only moaning about this list because it's on the clubs official website and supposed to be from the fans. Going by the time spent dragging it out and the plug it's getting it's going to be prestigious.

JoeyM

14-07-2008, 03:35

Sylvain Wiltord, oh dear :laugh:

Dundon's

14-07-2008, 04:22

Yea I know and there's no room for Anders Limpar ffs. The most exciting player in England when we signed him. :realmad:

Jonny2J

14-07-2008, 07:45

Liam Brady would have to be top 5.

ThierryHenry14

14-07-2008, 10:29

1)Bergkamp
2)Vieira
3)Henry
4)Adams
5)Wright

Viperized

14-07-2008, 11:35

Yea I know and there's no room for Anders Limpar ffs. The most exciting player in England when we signed him. :realmad:
Absolutely.

Tigermen

14-07-2008, 13:20

I am an Arsenal fan representing PESGaming.

I am woe.

I think I'd feel less shame looking at child porn, than I do as an Arsenal fan reading this thread...

ThierryHenry14

14-07-2008, 13:28

Andrei Arshavin's agent has revealed that Arsenal would be an ideal destination for the Russian playmaker due to the influence of Gunners boss Arsene Wenger.

"The stable situation in the club and the influence of Arsene Wenger to Arsenal and to English football is huge. I think this is an advantage," Dennis Lachter told Sky Sports News.

"If Arsenal go for Arshavin it could be really good for both parties. Arsenal is a very young team and Arshavin is 27.

"There's something about combining young and older players, they propagate attacking football."
Intresting.

papa

14-07-2008, 13:32

I think I'd feel less shame looking at child porn, than I do as an Arsenal fan reading this thread...

Makes me glad I'm the only active Fulham fan on PESGaming...

Stella Artois

14-07-2008, 13:32

Unless Zenit drop their asking price to under £15m, I doubt we'll even consider signing him.

It's all very boring now and the potential transfer is seemingly being pushed along by a greedy agent.

Don't be surprised if he goes nowhere, especially as he's playing for Zenit again.

Mjällharth

14-07-2008, 13:51

That guy is "just a little bit" overrated and overpriced , don't you think?

DJ Clue

14-07-2008, 14:14

I agree, after having few good matches in the Euros.

RB14 ARSENAL

14-07-2008, 16:12

I agree, after having few good matches in the Euros.

Absolutely mate.

Another thing, he would have to play well throughout the domestic season and not just against below-par teams. He was nothing against Spain when he was up against real oposition.

Now that Nasri is finally part of the team, I can't see Arshavin being signed. I would love him to be at Arsenal though; He would suit our playing style and attractive football.

( What is Arshavin's best position :erm: I thought he played attacking midfielder for Zenit, but he was SS for Russia. )

Dundon's

14-07-2008, 16:13

That guy is "just a little bit" overrated and overpriced , don't you think?

Over priced yes, over rated no.

Cannon ball

14-07-2008, 16:36

Absolutely mate.

Another thing, he would have to play well throughout the domestic season and not just against below-par teams. He was nothing against Spain when he was up against real oposition.

Now that Nasri is finally part of the team, I can't see Arshavin being signed. I would love him to be at Arsenal though; He would suit our playing style and attractive football.

( What is Arshavin's best position :erm: I thought he played attacking midfielder for Zenit, but he was SS for Russia. )

Would you say Holland are a below-par team?

Dundon's

14-07-2008, 16:54

Yep, I'm wearing the new home shirt right now, long sleeves too Mofo's. :cool:

I had it on the release day but I had to return it because she was short sleeve.

ThierryHenry14

14-07-2008, 17:07

Well it has been out for 13 days now I think lol..

Still haven't got mine , don't know wether to get it from kitbag or the Arsenal site.

JoeyM

14-07-2008, 17:09

Arshavin will never go for the insane price Zenit are asking. He wants to go and Zenit said they would let him leave. Zenit are in the CL next season and they're just playing hard ball to show the rest of Europe that they're not going to let their stars go for cheap. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go for cheaper (around 15m) toward the end of the window.

Dundon's

14-07-2008, 17:14

Lets just pray he joins us, it'd lift the whole club.

Rosicky and Naz on the flanks with Arshavin playing in the middle behind RVP, Fab then in the center with someone holding.

Nice....

If we get him, that cunt Gallas better hand over that 10

ThierryHenry14

14-07-2008, 17:17

You guys think Gallas will still be captain or do you think AW will announce a new one?

Miggy

14-07-2008, 17:20

I'd have given it to Kolo over Gallas in the first place.

Dundon's

14-07-2008, 17:22

I think it's too much shit taking it off him, the papers would go to town on us and it'd probably force him out of the club.

You can't do anything these days and the media are all over it stiring shit.

Btw the thin stripes on the sleeves of the gunners shirt isn't black/Navy, I thought they were from the images on the net. It's claret red.

ThierryHenry14

14-07-2008, 17:27

He would probably commit sucide after seeing some of his reactions last season.

Dundon's

14-07-2008, 17:56

Well he can keep the captaincy as far as I'm concerned, he just better hand that 10 to Arshavin if we pull it off.

RB14 ARSENAL

14-07-2008, 17:58

Well he can keep the captaincy as far as I'm concerned, he just better hand that 10 to Arshavin if we pull it off.

Why did he get that in the first place?? Considering the guy who played in it before....

Dundon's

14-07-2008, 18:09

ThierryHenry14

14-07-2008, 18:13

I reckon when Fabregas is around 25/26 he will become captain.

Dundon's

14-07-2008, 18:22

More closer to like 23/24 me thinks.

Do you think he's a lifer?

ThierryHenry14

14-07-2008, 18:23

I reckon he'll stay till about 30.

Gooner10

14-07-2008, 18:25

Well lets give Wenger the benefit of doubt with it, Gallas does come across as a very strong charater and has won trophies at the very highest level.

I'd leave him have it until Fab gets a little older, let the lad develop without that extra added pressure.

Personally I'd of given it to Kolo after Paddy left.

I agree, but I do think Gallas gets a hard press, which in some ways is good as it takes pressure off of the other players. He has performed pretty well and his moans are usually just because he obviously has the drive to succeed. Let him be captain and then Cesc can step in in a few years

Dundon's

14-07-2008, 18:25

I reckon he'll stay till about 30.

Let us pray, but he seems a different breed of animal to the last two we had. I loved the fact he warned Barca about how to go about their business.

I think he really loves us. :blush:

Gooner10

14-07-2008, 18:31

Henry said he loved the club, but he still went to Barca....all be it when he was 30. I'd love to see him come back in a coaching role or something in the future

ThierryHenry14

14-07-2008, 18:34

What's happened to Bergkamp since his retirement?

Meyyappan

14-07-2008, 18:37

We should have milked more money out of helb seeing where the transfer market is going..................should have been 15m pluss add ons of 2-3m.

Dragonfly

14-07-2008, 18:37

What's happened to Bergkamp since his retirement?

Last I heard, he was supposed to be joining Van Basten's coaching team at Ajax.

EDIT:

From Wiki:

Upon retiring from playing Bergkamp insisted he would not move into coaching. He turned down an offer to scout for Arsenal and instead concentrated on travelling and spending time with his family. However, in May 2008 he will start a fast-track coaching diploma for former Dutch international footballers. Because of his aviaphobia, he will study under former manager Arsene Wenger in London.

It has been confirmed by Marco van Basten that Bergkamp has been offered a trainee role at Ajax which will help him establish himself in future coaching capacity. Bergkamp has taken up the offer and will start his new post straight away.

Dundon's

14-07-2008, 18:39

We should have milked more money out of helb seeing where the transfer market is going..................should have been 15m pluss add ons of 2-3m.

That's the thing mate, it seems there's only a few clubs with any cash to splash around, we're even playing the poor mouth these days, which I think was a genius move on our behalf.

Blame Chel$ki, they done this to football. :ninja:

Adammce05

14-07-2008, 18:54

To be honest I think Fabregas will stay forever. Not just because he loves the club, but because, like Rooney, no club really has the money to buy him if you get me.

I don't think theres many clubs out there with the like 50-60m it would take to get them, so if Fabregas would stay til he was well past it/retires I wouldn't be surprised.

I hope he does, I like Arsenal and hope they do well, and Fabregas is certainly going to play a big part of that.

RB14 ARSENAL

14-07-2008, 19:00

That's the thing mate, it seems there's only a few clubs with any cash to splash around, we're even playing the poor mouth these days, which I think was a genius move on our behalf.

Blame Chel$ki, they done this to football. :ninja:
Agreed.

A club is interested in a player, the club make an offer for him.

Chelsea offer double, and they get the player.

That's football nowadays I'm afraid.

Keyser Soze

14-07-2008, 19:05

That's the thing mate, it seems there's only a few clubs with any cash to splash around, we're even playing the poor mouth these days, which I think was a genius move on our behalf.
Erm, what? After the window is closed, have a look at how much the English clubs are spending. It's probably higher than it's ever been.
Agreed.

A club is interested in a player, the club make an offer for him.

Chelsea offer double, and they get the player.

That's football nowadays I'm afraid.
I don't think you quite understand how it works. Go play Football Manager.

Dundon's

14-07-2008, 20:07

Erm, what? After the window is closed, have a look at how much the English clubs are spending. It's probably higher than it's ever been.

Orley?

So why is it that this summer there's more world class players available for sale then ever before and nobody is buying them? The likes of Milan are even resorting to food coupons.

The world is heading towards all global recession and it will hit football, watch this space.

Nifty1Pound50

14-07-2008, 21:15

Why did he get that in the first place??

I was under the impression that they changed the rules a few years ago to mean that those signed mid-season had to be assigned the lowest available squad number?

Although as it was a swap deal for Ashley Cole, number 3 would have also been free. Maybe it's the lowest squad number not previously registered that season?

In fact, that sounds about correct.

Dundon's

15-07-2008, 02:42

I seen Gallas talking about it at the time and he wanted it because he used to wear it before when he was younger or some rubbish like that.

Get it off, pronto!!!

Viperized

15-07-2008, 11:28

I seen Gallas talking about it at the time and he wanted it because he used to wear it before when he was younger or some rubbish like that.

Get it off, pronto!!!
Why are you getting so worked up over something insignificant such as a shirt number? It's only a shirt number...

And why do you hate Gallas so much?

Dundon's

15-07-2008, 15:20

10 is for special players not centerbacks and I don't hate Gallas, he just cost us last season with his public breakdown live on TV.

No need of it.

RB14 ARSENAL

15-07-2008, 15:56

That's not how captains are supposed to act. Toure should be captain :angry: Not Gallas.

Keyser Soze

15-07-2008, 16:01

Toure isn't a natural leader. He has enough trouble with concentration and positional sense as it is - the last thing he'll need to do is be looking to see if everyone is doing their job aswell.

That Gallas is a bastard, ay guys? That Ashley Cole plus cash swap doesn't seem so bad in hindsight afterall. :happy:;) Enjoy.

ThierryHenry14

15-07-2008, 16:28

That Ashley Cole plus cash swap doesn't seem so bad in hindsight afterall. :happy:;) Enjoy.
They should of stayed cause they've both gone downhill.

DJ Clue

15-07-2008, 16:33

So, is Gilberto moving on for sure?

Keyser Soze

15-07-2008, 16:37

They should of stayed cause they've both gone downhill.
Well we've got a world-class left-back who's been more than doing his job at Chelsea, so I'll have to decline! kthxbi

ThierryHenry14

15-07-2008, 16:50

Well I wouldn't really call Ashely Cole world class anymore Clichy on the other hand.

Gooner10

15-07-2008, 17:41

Clichy is much better now, not saying Cashly isn't ok but he's not what he was at Arsenal and we got the better end of that deal in Gallas...god knows what would have happened if we'd depended on Senderos!

Also from skysports:
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_3820846,00.html
what does eveyone think about this? Doesn't seem concrete and not sure if he'll be an excellent addition

Dundon's

15-07-2008, 17:50

That Gallas is a bastard, ay guys? That Ashley Cole plus cash swap doesn't seem so bad in hindsight afterall. :happy:;) Enjoy.

Gallas is still better to have around than Cole, at the moment I would rate them both as good defenders and considering we replaced Cole with a new and improved model for practically nothing, I'd say we panned out alright wouldn't you say?

That's Wenger for ya eh? :rolleyes:

CaptainCabinet

15-07-2008, 17:51

Well I wouldn't really call Ashely Cole world class anymore Clichy on the other hand.

Pretty sure, if you're not calling Cole world class, you're still on the same hand.

Keyser Soze

15-07-2008, 18:59

Hook, line and sinker btw. But the bitterness is astounding.Clichy is much better now, not saying Cashly isn't ok but he's not what he was at Arsenal and we got the better end of that deal in Gallas...god knows what would have happened if we'd depended on Senderos!

:lol:

DJ Clue

15-07-2008, 19:06

I thought the Barry deal was just a joke.

Gooner10

15-07-2008, 19:55

Hook, line and sinker btw. But the bitterness is astounding.
:lol:

it's not bitterness it's dislike for players who are not faithful to their clubs anymore...that's modern football for ya!

Joel

15-07-2008, 19:58

Gallas is still better to have around than Cole, at the moment I would rate them both as good defenders and considering we replaced Cole with a new and improved model for practically nothing, I'd say we panned out alright wouldn't you say?

That's Wenger for ya eh? :rolleyes:

We got a world class left back and with Gallas leaving, Carvalho stepped up and has proved to be one of the two best centre backs in the league (Rio Ferdinand being the other one).

I don't care what you Arsenal fans say, Ashley Cole was superb for us last season. Fair enough in the first season they were doubts, but those doubts are now gone.

I know it' doesn't usually happen, but one of your former players has been a success else where, get over it.

Dundon's

15-07-2008, 21:01

Get it over what?

We got cole for fuck all, made a killing with him in a trade for a 15m+ defender and replaced him again for free with a better player.

Like I said, I'll take it.

Keyser Soze

15-07-2008, 21:04

Get it over what?

We got cole for fuck all, made a killing with him in a trade for a 15m+ defender and replaced him again for free with a better player.

Like I said, I'll take it.
And then cried about how he's ruined your season single-handedly. :laugh:;)

Gooner10

15-07-2008, 21:04

Chelsea got a left back which they needed and yes have a quality centre back to replace but don't forget we got money as well as Gallas and Cole came through our ranks and cost us nothing, also Clichy has been the best left back on the league so it may have been good for Chelsea...but it was better for us

ThierryHenry14

15-07-2008, 21:06

Gallas came through our ranks?

Gooner10

15-07-2008, 21:07

Gallas came through our ranks?

Cole

Viperized

15-07-2008, 21:08

10 is for special players not centerbacks and I don't hate Gallas, he just cost us last season with his public breakdown live on TV.

No need of it.
Gallas cost us our season? I've heard it all now. :laugh:

Dundon's

15-07-2008, 23:03

I said he cost "us" (as in had an effect). Same could be said if you wanted to take the same view (which isn't what I'm saying) with Clichy in the same game. You could argue that he cost us too.

Not cost us the entire season fella, little breakdown in communication.

RB14 ARSENAL

16-07-2008, 10:37

10.10 Big news coming out of Barcelona as Alexander Hleb arrives in the Catalan capital for his medical. The Camp Nou giants have wasted precious little time in replacing Ronaldinho, with Hleb expected to be unveiled tomorrow.

link (http://www.skysports.com/football/transfer_clockwatch/0,23710,14896,00.html)

wrigh2uk

16-07-2008, 11:15

lol Xabi Alonso agent says theres been interest from us about him :|

But i cannot wait to get this whole hleb situation out the way its just dragging on now.

Dragonfly

16-07-2008, 12:28

I could see the Xabi Alonso story coming true, especially now it looks like Gilberto Silva will be leaving. We need more of a battler, though.

ads

16-07-2008, 12:35

I could see the Xabi Alonso story coming true, especially now it looks like Gilberto Silva will be leaving. We need more of a battler, though.

Agreed, Vieira has never been replaced. Losing Flamini was a huge blow too.

I think Wenger will have a couple of things up his sleeve. The man's a genius.

ThierryHenry14

16-07-2008, 14:39

Gareth Barry?

ads

16-07-2008, 14:41

Gareth Barry?

Not sure he's defensive minded enough to do a similar job to what Vieira did.

wrigh2uk

16-07-2008, 15:18

Gareth Barry?

I'd rather pay the 18m for Xabi than Barry, Alonso has alot more to his game.

ThierryHenry14

16-07-2008, 15:20

Villa are asking a bit much for Barry.

RB14 ARSENAL

16-07-2008, 15:22

Did he play good for Spain in the Euro 2008 campaign???

I do think he's a very good player, has a great long pass and can tackle well. He is good in all areas.

There's still plenty of years left in him; He's 26.

It wouldn't surprise me if Arsene signs him up; He would be a good signing.

ads

16-07-2008, 15:26

DJ Clue

16-07-2008, 16:14

I think he came on as a sub on few matches and i think he started the last group match for Spain.

Dundon's

16-07-2008, 16:46

He did yea, one of the games he went on a crazy one and started shooting from everywhere. Nearly scored from the halfway line the mad bastard.

PESFan92

16-07-2008, 17:28

Has the Hleb deal been done already?! Only looked this morning and it said

"His due to have a medical later on in the day"

nickpring

16-07-2008, 18:08

Has the Hleb deal been done already?! Only looked this morning and it said

"His due to have a medical later on in the day"

Not yet,

He was due to do his medical today, and officially be unveiled tomorrow I heard.

Dundon's

16-07-2008, 19:30

Barca = a poor mans Arsenal.

Jonny2J

16-07-2008, 19:32

Barca = a poor mans Arsenal.:laugh::laugh::laugh:: laugh:

Miggy

16-07-2008, 19:35

:huh:

Keyser Soze

16-07-2008, 19:37

Dundon's = most delusional member I've ever seen

Dundon's

16-07-2008, 19:41

It's true, they so wanna be us. :smug:

Gooner10

16-07-2008, 19:50

Barcenal

Gooner10

16-07-2008, 19:57

Anyway, in other Arsenal related news, the inevitable happens:
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_3827621,00.html

Charlie: 9

16-07-2008, 20:38

It's true, they so wanna be us. :smug:

Well theyre on their way, no trophies last season.

Gooner10

16-07-2008, 20:54

Well theyre on their way, no trophies last season.

and they are one of the best teams in the world to watch, just behind Arsenal!

wrigh2uk

16-07-2008, 21:12

Barca = a poor mans Arsenal.

and they are one of the best teams in the world to watch, just behind Arsenal!

http://www.forumammo.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10062/SiskoAnimated.gif

Viperized

16-07-2008, 21:39

Gilberto is on the verge of leaving too apparently.

We better fucking sign a winger AND a central midfielder.

But clearly signing this many players in the transfer window is a bit of a nightmare for our manager.

Miggy

16-07-2008, 21:42

Hasn't Gilberto already left for Greece?

ThierryHenry14

16-07-2008, 21:43

Yeah thought he had already gone.?

Viperized

16-07-2008, 21:44

I don't think there is any confirmation of him leaving though.

ThierryHenry14

16-07-2008, 21:52

Gilberto Silva is about to become the highest-paid player in Greek football, as Panathanaikos stand on the verge of closing a deal to sign the Gunners midfielder for three years.

Media reports say that Silva is set to arrive in Athens on Wednesday afternoon to receive a medical and add his signature to settle the deal agreed by his agent last week.

The Greek star will then be officially presented to the media on Thursday.

If all goes according to plan, Silva will put pen to paper on a deal which reports say will see him earning £6 million over the coming three years - move that cost Panathanaikos a reported £8 million in total- making him by far the highest paid footballer in Greece.
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/8349860/Silva-set-to-close-Panathanaikos-deal

Jonny2J

16-07-2008, 21:52

Viperized

16-07-2008, 22:02

:rolleyes:
Wenger is letting more players leave the club than bringing players in the club. Thats all I'm going to say.

Just look it up yourself.

Stella Artois

16-07-2008, 22:43

Come this weekened Viperized will be cumming in his pants. :)

vanNistelrooy

16-07-2008, 23:05

Come this weekened Viperized will be cumming in his pants. :)
You mean he'll finally hit puberty?

Viperized

16-07-2008, 23:39

We're signing another player this weekend Stella?

You mean he'll finally hit puberty?
Hey I hit puberty over 5 years ago.

vanNistelrooy

16-07-2008, 23:41

I woke up with semen all over my bed sheets.

Remind me never to share a bed again.

Gooner10

17-07-2008, 03:20

http://www.forumammo.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10062/SiskoAnimated.gif

no you're right, Arsenal are the best team to watch

Usul

17-07-2008, 12:29

Barca = a poor mans Arsenal.
:laugh:

Get a hold of yourself, man.

nikos24

17-07-2008, 16:37

Thanks for Gilberto :)

Meyyappan

17-07-2008, 17:16

You guys think we should have gone for Ronaldinho,straight swap?

ThierryHenry14

17-07-2008, 17:17

No.

Stella Artois

17-07-2008, 17:18

Thanks for Gilberto :)

Trust me, we're thanking you for taking him off our hands.

wrigh2uk

17-07-2008, 17:25

You guys think we should have gone for Ronaldinho,straight swap?

http://images.yuku.com/image/gif/154350b2e7aaa82e88c4f738142dd8 9f1464ebe.gif

Sorry its my star trek week to stupid questions, statements, responses etc

Dundon's

17-07-2008, 17:29

:laugh:

Get a hold of yourself, man.

Tell the truth, you love us and you wish you had our squad. :happy:

Usul

17-07-2008, 17:52

Sorry its my star trek week to stupid questions, statements, responses etc
:laugh:

I love it.
Tell the truth, you love us and you wish you had our squad. :happy:
:laugh:

I'm not supposed to take that seriously, am i?

Dragonfly

17-07-2008, 18:00

Sorry its my star trek week to stupid questions, statements, responses etc

Stupid posts?

http://images.yuku.com/image/gif/154350b2e7aaa82e88c4f738142dd8 9f1464ebe.gif

Dundon's

17-07-2008, 19:13

Right this whole thread is turning into an ego trip, people get the fuck off your high horses and start showing some respect for the posts being made. If you don't like the comments don't respond to them.

A few of these are young lads and are only supporting the team a few years.

Lay off them you twats.

P.S. @Muad: Player for player we'd take you on paper now. :cool:

Miggy

17-07-2008, 19:17

Dragonfly

17-07-2008, 19:49

Who's been updating the first post of this thread?

Viperized

17-07-2008, 19:50

An admin, who else?

It can't be adams because his last activity is 12-12-2006 20:45.

Dragonfly

17-07-2008, 19:58

An admin, who else?

It can't be adams because his last activity is 12-12-2006 20:45.

I know it's not adams, that's why I asked. And after days of analysis and evaluation, and using up miles of chalk board (and chalk, of course) I kind of figured it was an admin or a mod, but just "an admin" isn't what I was looking for, obviously.

K.1.N.G.

17-07-2008, 21:10

We got a world class left back and with Gallas leaving, Carvalho stepped up and has proved to be one of the two best centre backs in the league (Rio Ferdinand being the other one).

I don't care what you Arsenal fans say, Ashley Cole was superb for us last season. Fair enough in the first season they were doubts, but those doubts are now gone.

I know it' doesn't usually happen, but one of your former players has been a success else where, get over it.

Cole was great for Chelsea last season, no question about that imo. As an Arsenal fan, I was sad to see a player of his calibre leave but we also had Clichy ready to make the step up, so it made sense to do the deal. We were desperately short a central defender and we got Gallas, a top quality defender, in exchange - cant complain about that!

I disagree with the assertion that Gallas cost us in the b'ham game. He showed his desire, maybe it could have been directed in a more focused manner but I think Eduardo's injury at the start of the game had a much more detrimental effect on our season.

Anyhow, thats all in the past. Time to look forward. Hleb, Gilberto, Flamini are all gone, Vela is back and we also signed Nasri. I dont think Ramsey will be overly used in the first team this season, needs more time to develop. Our squad definitely needs improving, but theres not too much work to be done imho. One, or maybe two, midfielders, possibly a centrehalf and if Ade leaves then a new striker. It'll be interesting to see what happens in the next few weeks.....

Joel

17-07-2008, 22:29

Who's been updating the first post of this thread?

It says Scarface edited it at the bottom of the post.

Cole was great for Chelsea last season, no question about that imo. As an Arsenal fan, I was sad to see a player of his calibre leave but we also had Clichy ready to make the step up, so it made sense to do the deal. We were desperately short a central defender and we got Gallas, a top quality defender, in exchange - cant complain about that!

Would you look at it, an intelligent post on this situation. Well I'm glad there is still some honesty here, rather than the usual "Cole iz shit!!!1!11!".

I agree with what you say. No club lost out on this deal at all. Arsenal got what they wanted and Chelsea got what they wanted.

Viperized

17-07-2008, 22:44

It'll be interesting if Wenger will stick to his current transfer policy or buy an experienced player instead.

I guess we'll find out in the next few weeks, because surely we will sign at least one more player after the departures of both Flamini and Gilberto.

Dundon's

18-07-2008, 02:14

2 more decent signings would make my summer, it really would. I'm excited for the likes of Theo and Vela next year, RVP, Eddie, Sagna and Rosicknote will all be back too.

T'will be great.

Viperized

18-07-2008, 09:46

Four decent signings would be fine, but that is being way too unrealistic.

A centre back (probably won't happen)
A defensive midfielder
A winger (probably won't happen. "Diaby and Eboue can play on ze wings"
A goalkeeper (not going to happen, but I can still hope, right?)

We've let the likes of Gilberto, Flamini, Hleb all leave and have only signed one player. We need to AT LEAST have the squad numbers of last season or else we'll suffer from a weak squad, again.

ThierryHenry14

18-07-2008, 10:38

I'am suprised Wenger didn't get another GK.

Miggy

18-07-2008, 12:17

Cheeky bid for Brad Friedel?

ads

18-07-2008, 12:21

I'am suprised Wenger didn't get another GK.

Not sure he needs one does he?

Almunia had a very good season and Fabianski could step up to the plate I'm sure.

Miggy

18-07-2008, 12:26

Almunia is one of those keepers who just doesn't feel me with great confidence.

It's like Valdes for us, decent enough but there's plenty better.

ads

18-07-2008, 12:35

Almunia is one of those keepers who just doesn't feel me with great confidence.

It's like Valdes for us, decent enough but there's plenty better.

Agreed.

Maybe the lack of Jens will help him though? We'll see.

Viperized

18-07-2008, 13:33

Wenger: "But every time we have done such a great job with the young players that you are concerned 'do we kill a young player or not by bringing another player in?'

"It is a very sensitive subject which is not specially linked with money."

:no:

We've let far too many players leave an already weak squad, yet Wenger still goes on about the 'young players'.

Expect us to win no trophies next season if we don't replace the players who have left the club. Nasri isn't a replacement for Hleb in my eyes - we already needed someone to play out wide anyway.

Meyyappan

18-07-2008, 15:42

Arshavin(or likewise helb calibre) and one of wenger finds(eduardo,sagna) who is atleast as good as flamini and i would say we are done for the summer,whilst buying a centre back is optional.....................a nd i agree with what miggy said about Alumunia.

Gooner10

18-07-2008, 20:55

A world class goalkeeper could save us a hell of a lot of points, Almunia is good but there are keepers who would have saved a lot of what he just missed...that's the difference between good and great. It's hopeless though we won't get a keeper especially considering our priorities are to sign a midfielder or two and if we're lucky a centre back. Apparently Nordveit or whatever his name is is a great defender but he seems to young and inexperienced. Then if Ade leaves we need a striker. I would love to see M Richards and Arshavin or someone of his class

Usul

19-07-2008, 10:49

You're a right wind up merchant.
Not really. Respect levels are dropping steadily though.

Dundon's

19-07-2008, 14:32

Are you always this serious or are you just having a bad hair day?

DJ Clue

19-07-2008, 14:53

Rosicky to miss season start
Gunners ace to sit out opening month of new campaign

Arsenal's injured midfielder Tomas Rosicky has confirmed he will miss the start of the new England League season.

The Czech Republic ace, who missed out on Euro 2008 through injury, underwent a knee operation in May after missing much of the second half of last term.

The former Borussia Dortmund playmaker had hoped to be fit for The Gunners' England League opener against West Brom on August 16th.

More time
However, Rosicky needs more time to recover fully from the injury and now hopes to return in September.

"I know I'll miss the start of the club season," he told Czech daily Sport.

"According to plans I should be back on the field in September."

Rosicky is expected to resume training in the next week, although the 27-year-old is not yet able to practice with a football.

Preparation
"I've been walking without crutches for three weeks and preparing myself to train for two," he added on his personal website.

"The sadness of missing half a year, the surgery and the fact that I missed Euro 2008 has become dull. Coaches don't allow me to think about it.

"The coaches have told me to start with jogging in the next week. Without fitness drills, coach Arsene Wenger will not pick me for a game, I think."

wrigh2uk

19-07-2008, 16:32

A brief piece on the Gunners’ official website confirms that Arsene Wenger has signed his third player of the summer - and second French midfielder. Francis Coquelin has joined the club from French third division side Laval.

Coquelin, 17, impressed during a trial with Arsenal last season and had been expected to sign during the last two months.

He passed a medical back in May but his signing was only officially announced by the Gunners on Friday.

“Arsenal have signed French midfield player Francis Coquelin on professional terms,” said the statement.

“The 17-year-old has joined from SASP Stade Lavallois Mayeene MFC.”

Laval revealed last month that Coquelin, who had not signed a first professional contract with them, was free to move on.

Arsenal are therefore believed to have signed him without having to pay a transfer fee.

Reports suggest that Werder Bremen’s Amaury Bischoff could be the next youngster to join the Gunners.

Never heard of him to be honest

Usul

19-07-2008, 17:38

Are you always this serious or are you just having a bad hair day?
My hair is too healthy and silky for me to have bad days because of it. :smug:

Gooner10

19-07-2008, 17:45

Arsenal beat Barnet 2-1, goals from Simpson and Barazite. I've seen the Barazite goal on youtube and it's not bad. Not sure who else played

nickpring

19-07-2008, 17:59

Arsenal beat Barnet 2-1, goals from Simpson and Barazite. I've seen the Barazite goal on youtube and it's not bad. Not sure who else played

I watched parts of the game on ArsenalTV.

the team was;

Manuel Almunia

Bacary Sagna
Havard Nortveit
Justin Hoyte
Gael Clichy

Armand Traore
Aaron Ramsey
Denilson
Henri Lansbury

Theo Walcott
Nicklas Bendtner

Arsenal were comfortable in control, but, didn't threaten much (only watched first half), Barnets goal was a decent hit from a free-kick which was touched twice before being struck, the wall didn't break or move, and it was just curled around them and in.

Dundon's

19-07-2008, 18:36

Small match report

Arsenal's youngsters proved the future is bright with a 2-1 success over Barnet in their familiar pre-season friendly.

The Gunners did start with the likes of Manuel Almunia, Bacary Sagna, Gael Clichy, Theo Walcott, Nicklas Bendtner on show along with giving a debut to £5million summer signing Aaron Ramsey.

However, it was the League Two side who opened the scoring and deservedly so through Kenny Gillet, who beat Almunia down low at his near post.

Gunners boss Arsene Wenger made a string of second half substitutions and two of those players managed to find the back of the net as Arsenal claimed a 2-1 success.

Firstly Jay Simpson, who spent time with Millwall last season, finished off a fine move from eight yards out before teenage Dutch striker Nacer Barazite secured the won on 73 minutes.

Good to see Sagna back.

ThierryHenry14

19-07-2008, 18:42

Hmm bit worried about Almunia atm.

Dragonfly

19-07-2008, 23:08

We've let the likes of Gilberto, Flamini, Hleb all leave and have only signed one player. We need to AT LEAST have the squad numbers of last season or else we'll suffer from a weak squad, again.

Ahem, I think you forgot about Nasri.

Never heard of him to be honest

How many times have we seen that in this thread. :laugh:

DJ Clue

19-07-2008, 23:38

Wenger 'certain to make signing'

Arsene Wenger has said he is "certain" he will sign at least one more player before the start of the season.

And the Arsenal manager reiterated his belief that Emmanuel Adebayor will remain at the club, despite AC Milan and Barcelona tracking the striker.

"Adebayor is a player of Arsenal. I am very confident he will stay," Wenger told BBC London.

On the possibility of signings, Wenger added that he would make "two maximum but one certainly".

Wenger has seen midfielders Mathieu Flamini, Alexander Hleb and Gilberto leave Arsenal for AC Milan, Barcelona and Panathinaikos respectively this summer, while Samir Nasri and Aaron Ramsey have arrived from Marseille and Cardiff.

Ramsey made his debut for Arsenal as they won 2-1 at Barnet in a pre-season friendly on Saturday, with Jay Simpson and Dutch youngster Nacer Barazite scoring in the second half to cancel out Kenny Gillet's strike for the hosts.

And speaking after the match, Wenger hinted that 17-year-old Ramsey and the squad's other young players could play a key role next season.

"Ramsey did OK. He looked a bit tired because he works very hard, of course it's a big change for him, but he did OK," stated Wenger.

606: DEBATE
Sell Adebayor to Barca or Milan and buy Santa Cruz and Sergio Aguero

Anonymous000
"He is in the plans like all the players today. It depends on the performances and their quality and you could see that some young players could be very close to the first team.

"We had two departures (last week) but two players came in so, number wise, we are level."

Arsenal have been linked with a number of players this summer, notably Aston Villa captain Gareth Barry and Zenit St Petersburg's Russian playmaker Andrei Arshavin.

Dundon's

20-07-2008, 04:19

After watching the game tonight I have to say I was impressed with that 16 year old kid Jack Wilshere, he reminds me of a young Paul Scholes, even in his movement of the ball. Afterwards I checked him up and it looks like we're tying him down to a full time contract.

Good so see a few English lads coming through but that Wilshere kid is really one to watch.

wrigh2uk

20-07-2008, 13:07

Ahem, I think you forgot about Nasri.

How many times have we seen that in this thread. :laugh:

Not the first and will certainly not be the last :)

Dundon's

20-07-2008, 16:02

Hleb - Fabregas loves Barca

Barcelona new boy Alexander Hleb is ready to incur the wrath of old club Arsenal by hinting Cesc Fabregas could join him at Camp Nou.

Hleb secured his move to Barcelona earlier this week after deciding to leave Arsenal for a new challenge.

The Belarus international says former Gunners team-mate Fabregas has told him a lot about Barca having come through the youth ranks at the Catalan outfit before making the move to Arsenal.

Hleb claims Fabregas is still a big fan of Barcelona and he believes there is a possibility the pair could be reunited at Camp Nou.
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"He [Fabregas] told me lots of things [about Barcelona], his time in the academy with players like Pique, Messi and so on," Hleb told Barcelona's official website.

"He loves this club, and though he's at Arsenal, who knows, maybe one day he'll come back here."

The fuck is he thinking saying that, he knows the British media are a pack of dogs..

ThierryHenry14

20-07-2008, 16:27

One day yeah when he is old and rubbish he can join them.

Gooner10

20-07-2008, 20:30

Wenger will make a maximum of two signings, and probably only one, it seems we need a defensive midfielder most so that doesn't leave a lot of depth in defence. Would be lovely to get a defender as the second signing...who knows what Wenger has planned though, I heard he may also sell Gallas and give Cesc the captain's armband

Viperized

20-07-2008, 22:37

Do those maximum of two signings include Nasri? I hope not.

We must sign a winger AND a central midfielder.

We are severely weak on the wings yet Wenger continues to ignore this blatantly obvious weakness.

Honsetly, this type of news from Wenger annoys the fuck out of me. I hope we get 5th place next season so Wenger can wake up and strengthen the squad for once instead of continuously weaken it.
Ahem, I think you forgot about Nasri.

How many times have we seen that in this thread. :laugh:
Nasri was that one player I was talking about.

papa

20-07-2008, 22:43

Nasri was that one player I was talking about.

In which case you forgot Aaron Ramsey.

Keyser Soze

20-07-2008, 22:55

Not to mention Eduardo and Vela coming back, it's not like you'll have less than you had previously.

Keyser Soze

20-07-2008, 22:56

Do those maximum of two signings include Nasri? I hope not.

We must sign a winger AND a central midfielder.

We are severely weak on the wings yet Wenger continues to ignore this blatantly obvious weakness.

Honsetly, this type of news from Wenger annoys the fuck out of me. I hope we get 5th place next season so Wenger can wake up and strengthen the squad for once instead of continuously weaken it.
Nasri was that one player I was talking about.
Dude... what the fuck is wrong with you? How can you not see how/why your posts are being cringed at?

Gooner10

20-07-2008, 23:01

I think we've got a good chance next year we do have a lot of young talent that can compete. An experienced midfield addition and maybe a defender or winger and we'll be well in with a shot for the title. Remember last season everybody though we we're goin to fall apart when Henry left..but we were leading the England League for a long time, did well in Europe and had cup runs. It proves that the young talent can do it, and this year they will all be that little bit better...so what if Hleb, Flamini and Gilberto have gone? We still have a wealth of talent that any other England League team would be playing in the starting line-up

Edit: why has where I typed 'Premiersship' (had to spell that wrong to type it) been replaced with England League?

Cannon ball

20-07-2008, 23:02

Do those maximum of two signings include Nasri? I hope not.

We must sign a winger AND a central midfielder.

We are severely weak on the wings yet Wenger continues to ignore this blatantly obvious weakness.

Honsetly, this type of news from Wenger annoys the fuck out of me. I hope we get 5th place next season so Wenger can wake up and strengthen the squad for once instead of continuously weaken it.

Your post disappoints me.......

Honestly is spelt wrong.

Miggy

20-07-2008, 23:04

After all these years surely you'd have more faith in Wenger, Viperized?

Jonny2J

20-07-2008, 23:09

Do those maximum of two signings include Nasri? I hope not.

We must sign a winger AND a central midfielder.

We are severely weak on the wings yet Wenger continues to ignore this blatantly obvious weakness.

Honsetly, this type of news from Wenger annoys the fuck out of me. I hope we get 5th place next season so Wenger can wake up and strengthen the squad for once instead of continuously weaken it.

Nasri was that one player I was talking about.You really don't deserve to have Wenger as your manager with comments like that.

Viperized

20-07-2008, 23:41

After all these years surely you'd have more faith in Wenger, Viperized?
I wouldn't be complaining the slightest if we weren't a top club. If we were a mid-table club, I'd be perfectly happy.

However, we are considered a top club and our manager considers us a top club, so why is the Arsenal squad getting smaller as opposed to getting bigger and stronger?

WE LET MORE FIRST TEAM PLAYERS LEAVE THE CLUB THAN SENDING PLAYERS IN THE CLUB.

The main reason why Arsenal didn't win anything last season was because our squad was weak. But we have already let go of Gilberto, Flamini and Hleb and Wenger is only looking to sign one more player.

I honestly am shocked, because this doesn't change the squad numbers from the previous season which was already considered small.

We seem to be showing zero ambition to be honest. Teams such as Spurs are showing more ambition than us for crying out loud! Chelsea clearly are proving they will be a force next season and will clearly contend for all four trophies. Man United will only get stronger if they sign the likes of Berbatov.

This is why I'm complaining - we have an incredibly weak squad and are doing NOTHING about it, but Scolari and Ferguson are only improving on an already solid foundation.

I'll be very surprised if we win anything next season, if we only sign one player. If we manage to win a trophy on this basis, please ban me from this forum!

Cannon ball

20-07-2008, 23:50

I'll be very surprised if we win anything next season, if we only sign one player. If we manage to win a trophy on this basis, please ban me from this forum!

Becareful what you ask for! Now you've said that, they're going to win a trophy.

Viperized

20-07-2008, 23:57

Becareful what you ask for! Now you've said that, they're going to win a trophy.
It is all part of the plan. ;)

vanNistelrooy

21-07-2008, 00:03

Dundon's

21-07-2008, 02:43

I hope we get 5th place next season so Wenger can wake up and strengthen the squad for once instead of continuously weaken it.

Keep it real bro, making 5th place would result in us losing whatever players we have left along with detrimental financial consequences.

Now if THAT happened, we would have us a situation.

P.S. Chin up, we'll be grand. Arsene knows what he's doing and I'm sure is fully aware of what happened last season.

Stella Artois

21-07-2008, 03:37

On the transfer front, I've been told we've been knocked back after enquiring about Xabi Alonso and that Wenger is apparently feeling the pressure at the moment with regards to getting incoming players.

Having said that, there's supposedly one certainty on his way very soon.

Viperized

21-07-2008, 12:58

Enjoy your Carling Cup then ;)

You make valid points, but to say you hope you finish 5th is just mad.

You lot were ok up until Eduardo got injured, and seeing as Gilberto didn't really feature much and when he did he was shit, so you weren't far off.

Nasri replaced Hleb
Eduardo will be back
Need another DM.

So maybe Arsene saying you only need the one player, has some fairness to it?
We don't have much quality in the middle of the park. After Cesc, who do we have? Diaby and Denilson? They've hardly played in the centre of the park for us last season. I don't remember seeing Denilson at all in the league.

We lack wingers and have been short of a winger ever since Reyes left the club. Everyone knows that Eboue and Diaby are cancer on the wings. Rosicky is never fit either, which is exactly why I'm desperate for Wenger to sign one.

Chelsea seem like they're going to get Robinho. It's a shame, because he is the exact type of player who could be useful for us.

ThierryHenry14

21-07-2008, 13:03

1000 pages :thewave:

I doubt Wenger would buy Robinho.

Bammers05

21-07-2008, 13:10

We don't have much quality in the middle of the park. After Cesc, who do we have? Diaby and Denilson? They've hardly played in the centre of the park for us last season. I don't remember seeing Denilson at all in the league.

We lack wingers and have been short of a winger ever since Reyes left the club. Everyone knows that Eboue and Diaby are cancer on the wings. Rosicky is never fit either, which is exactly why I'm desperate for Wenger to sign one.

Chelsea seem like they're going to get Robinho. It's a shame, because he is the exact type of player who could be useful for us.

He played quite a lot towards the end of the season.

Anyway, everyone seems to be forgetting Alex Song as a possible partner for Fabregas, in midfield. He played there for Cameroon in the African Cup of Nations and I think he could do well there alongside Fabregas.

Also, 500 pages :hamster:

EDIT: You've got that a bit wrong, ThierryHenry14

papa

21-07-2008, 13:19

I'm on 750.

I think we all have different numbers of posts per page.

Guillermo

21-07-2008, 14:08

I'm on 750.

I think we all have different numbers of posts per page.

I'm with you on the standard 20 per page.

Bammers05

21-07-2008, 14:39

I'm on 750.

I think we all have different numbers of posts per page.

I have 30 posts per page, so that clears that up

Dragonfly

21-07-2008, 15:32

Nasri was that one player I was talking about.

I know. ;)

Dundon's

21-07-2008, 16:06

1000 pages for me too. d(>_<)b

DJ Clue

21-07-2008, 17:37

Same.

Dundon's

21-07-2008, 18:06

Wenger wants transfer respect

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has hit out at those who try to destabilise players, branding their actions as 'irresponsible'.

Wenger's comments follow the speculation surrounding Cristiano Ronaldo's future at Manchester United amid interest from Real Madrid.

The Frenchman has hit out at Real president Ramon Calderon's behaviour, insisting he was wrong to publicly unsettle Ronaldo.
Respect

He told the August edition of the official Arsenal magazine: "If you don't show respect to other clubs I think that football is moving in the wrong way.

"You cannot come out like Calderon has done at Real Madrid with Manchester United and tell them you cannot stop a player from leaving.

"You can destabilise any player in the world - that is irresponsible."

Wenger added: "These are big clubs that should be setting an example to others.

"I believe that football now is at the stage where it has become a world sport and the big clubs should have values and vision and set an example.

"If we do not do that in football, then we do not understand the responsibilities that we have."

As always he's right.

Players constantly chasing new contracts when they have several years already remaining is another shambles. In our own case Ade only got a new deal last season, what the hell like?, a new contract every time you do what your paid for in in the first place?

I really want rid of this gob shite.