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Dragonfly
02-09-2008, 17:31
I thought of Hudson when I read this.

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/9355/hudson1283349dz4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

"That's it man, game over man, game over! What the fuck are we gonna do now? What are we gonna do?"

:chanlaugh: :chanlaugh: :chanlaugh:

Viperized
02-09-2008, 18:20
Funny indeed.

Funny that this team is taking steps backwards, while other clubs are actually taking steps forward.

Jonny2J
02-09-2008, 18:23
Funny indeed.

Funny that this team is taking steps backwards, while other clubs are actually taking steps forward.Try having a day like I'm having at the moment. Then you'll have right to moan all of the time.

freestyleh7
02-09-2008, 18:38
I've lost abit of respect for wenger after not buying anyone. LOL

ThierryHenry14
02-09-2008, 18:46
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh15/supporter555/picard-facepalm.jpg

Dragonfly
02-09-2008, 18:47
I think our first team is the same size as last season, just younger.

Barry
02-09-2008, 18:51
Perhaps he thinks he can compete with this team (as do I); and if things really go awry, he can always sign someone come January. Personally I don't think he needs to sign anyone to make it a succesful season.

There are a lot of theories that one with a bit of imagination could make up.

Dragonfly
02-09-2008, 18:56
Perhaps he thinks he can compete with this team (as do I); and if things really go awry, he can always sign someone come January. Personally I don't think he needs to sign anyone to make it a succesful season.

There are a lot of theories that one with a bit of imagination could make up.

I'm personally not too worried about a lack of signings, so far. I'm willing to give this side a chance to see what they can do, since it wasn't much different last season and was so close to winning the title. If Flamini had stayed, I would've been perfectly happy, but a tough, hard working defensive midfielder would've been good - I'm hoping Song will be that player.

Viperized
02-09-2008, 20:06
This team lacks cover for Cesc and there is a missing defensive midfielder in the team.

Compare the Arsenal squad with Chelsea, Man Utd and Liverpool. It is clearly the weakest.

DJ Clue
02-09-2008, 20:07
I'm personally not too worried about a lack of signings, so far. I'm willing to give this side a chance to see what they can do, since it wasn't much different last season and was so close to winning the title. If Flamini had stayed, I would've been perfectly happy, but a tough, hard working defensive midfielder would've been good - I'm hoping Song will be that player.

Agree.

DJ Clue
02-09-2008, 20:09
I've lost abit of respect for wenger after not buying anyone. LOL

Will someone slap him for me.

Viperized
02-09-2008, 20:10
I guess we will find out how good this squad really is in our next three games, starting with an away trip at Blackburn.

Dragonfly, Song isn't considered as a defensive midfielder by Wenger. He has played many of his games as a central defender.

Viperized
02-09-2008, 20:11
Will someone slap him for me.
Wenger promised at least one signing, perhaps two, and in the end, he decided to watch a Arsenal vs Chelsea Reserve match.

Is Arsenal a selling club? We've always sold players over the years, but it appears to be worse most recently.

Dragonfly
02-09-2008, 20:12
I guess we will find out how good this squad really is in our next three games, starting with an away trip at Blackburn.

Dragonfly, Song isn't considered as a defensive midfielder by Wenger. He has played many of his games as a central defender.

He's played there a few times, even as recently as the FC Twente game, when came on.

Viperized
02-09-2008, 20:12
He's played there a few times, even as recently as the FC Twente game, when came on.
Toure has played as a right winger vs FC Twente.

Doesn't mean he will be one.

Whenever he has started a game recently, it has been at CB.

DJ Clue
02-09-2008, 20:15
We just have wait and see what our young lads can do, so give them a chance and by that i don't mean we will win the league.

Viperized
02-09-2008, 20:18
We just have wait and see what our young lads can do, so give them a chance and by that i don't mean we will win the league.
Then why bother? We challenged for the title last season, why aren't we going to challenge this season? I didn't realise we took that many steps back!

If we won't win any trophies next season, then it is all Wenger's fault. He decided to continue the campaign with an understrength squad, and he decided not to sign anyone.

You see, the best teams do not rely on the 'young lads' or reserve players. Instead, they improve an already solid foundation. Man United and Chelsea are examples of this. Liverpool have also made a good signing in Keane. I'm doubting whether we have a solid foundation, especially with the number of players leaving the club.

Gooner10
02-09-2008, 20:34
The players have been here long enough to know each other well and play a great team game, as a team we could beat anyone on our day. Fair enough we may be short if we get injuries but to be honest what's all the doom and gloom about? Of course a DM would have given us depth but we have a fantastic team with the potential to win the league, and champions league for that matter

DJ Clue
02-09-2008, 21:05
Then why bother? We challenged for the title last season, why aren't we going to challenge this season? I didn't realise we took that many steps back!

If we won't win any trophies next season, then it is all Wenger's fault. He decided to continue the campaign with an understrength squad, and he decided not to sign anyone.

You see, the best teams do not rely on the 'young lads' or reserve players. Instead, they improve an already solid foundation. Man United and Chelsea are examples of this. Liverpool have also made a good signing in Keane. I'm doubting whether we have a solid foundation, especially with the number of players leaving the club.When the fuck i said we're taking a step back, ffs man relax, we'll see what we can do this season.

Viperized
02-09-2008, 21:25
Isn't that what we say every season?

It hasn't won us any trophies over the past few years.

ThierryHenry14
02-09-2008, 22:35
Manager Arsene Wenger had been desperate to recruit a midfielder before the transfer window closed and, despite being told that Inler would be staying in Serie A, made a late bid to lure the 24-year-old to the Emirates.

The departures of Mathieu Flamini, Alexander Hleb and Gilberto Silva have left the Arsenal midfield thin on the ground and Wenger pulled out all the stops to strenghten his squad in that area.

However, Inler, who joined Udinese from FC Zurich last year and enjoyed a superb debut season in Italy, believes it is too early for him to move to the Premier League, and said: "I never had any doubts (about staying).

"From the first day I always said I was sure of staying at Udinese. I want to go all the way with this club and play a great season."

Liverpool's Xabi Alonso was also a target for Wenger, but after Rafa Benitez failed in his bid to sign Gareth Barry from Aston Villa, Arsenal's hopes of capturing Alonso faded.

Another name linked with a move to Arsenal before the window closed was Germany defender Christoph Metzelder.

Having let Swiss centre-half Philippe Senderos join AC Milan last week on a season-long loan deal, media reports claimed that Wenger would recruit the Real Madrid center-back in a similar move.

The 27-year-old has found himself on the sidelines at the Bernabeu, and was seriously considering a move to the Emirates.

A move did not materialise yesterday, though, but it is thought Wenger will try again in January.

Gooner10
02-09-2008, 22:40
Too bad we could have had a nice signing. Anyway time to look forward, next game at Blackburn will be a hard one so hopefully no injuries over the international break

Viperized
02-09-2008, 23:30
Manager Arsene Wenger had been desperate to recruit a midfielder before the transfer window closed and, despite being told that Inler would be staying in Serie A, made a late bid to lure the 24-year-old to the Emirates.

The departures of Mathieu Flamini, Alexander Hleb and Gilberto Silva have left the Arsenal midfield thin on the ground and Wenger pulled out all the stops to strenghten his squad in that area.

However, Inler, who joined Udinese from FC Zurich last year and enjoyed a superb debut season in Italy, believes it is too early for him to move to the England League, and said: "I never had any doubts (about staying).

"From the first day I always said I was sure of staying at Udinese. I want to go all the way with this club and play a great season."

Liverpool's Xabi Alonso was also a target for Wenger, but after Rafa Benitez failed in his bid to sign Gareth Barry from Aston Villa, Arsenal's hopes of capturing Alonso faded.

Another name linked with a move to Arsenal before the window closed was Germany defender Christoph Metzelder.

Having let Swiss centre-half Philippe Senderos join AC Milan last week on a season-long loan deal, media reports claimed that Wenger would recruit the Real Madrid center-back in a similar move.

The 27-year-old has found himself on the sidelines at the Bernabeu, and was seriously considering a move to the Emirates.

A move did not materialise yesterday, though, but it is thought Wenger will try again in January.
Hmm, interesting.

Perhaps we may see a midfielder in January. I'm glad that Wenger was after one. But doesn't anyone think he left it far too late?

Yossi
02-09-2008, 23:31
Perhaps we may see a midfielder in January. I'm glad that Wenger was after one. But doesn't anyone think he left it far too late?

He has probably been looking for one since before Flamini left...

Pierre
02-09-2008, 23:53
I dont like the way the english football is going at the moment....

Its just become a billionaires playground....

I really hope Uefa stick to the legislation of having 3 homegrown players... hopefully than can extend that to 8 in the first 11....

It would stop the russians/arabs buying 20 foreign players in the transfer window...

the england team is most definetly fucked now you know....

nickpring
03-09-2008, 00:03
Rumours are that you rejected a loan-offer from Cardiff for Aaron Ramsey on deadline day.

Nturtle
03-09-2008, 01:46
He has probably been looking for one since before Flamini left...

Well...let's see if Song or Diaby (non-injured) and Rosicky take up the slack. Ramsey loan was rejected by Arsenal I think, so I guess he'll play a part.

I reckon the most likely is Song - he's been rather improved since we first saw him, and if you play for your country...he can't be TOO bad.

DJ Clue
03-09-2008, 01:48
We have wait till the Jan Transfer window to reopen and hopefully we shoud a new face in the squad.

Anyways focus on next weeks match.

Arsène3:16
03-09-2008, 05:26
With the premier league only becoming stronger overall this stadium debt situation is going to make it increasingly difficult to compete. We have a strong enough team to hold on for now but it could come back to bite us in the future.

Hopefully an investor comes along

Viperized
03-09-2008, 10:55
With the England League only becoming stronger overall this stadium debt situation is going to make it increasingly difficult to compete. We have a strong enough team to hold on for now but it could come back to bite us in the future.
That is what I'm worried about.

It does seem like Wenger has some reluctance in signing new players. If he didn't, he wouldn't have tried to sign on the last day. He has spoken about how new players could unsettle his younger players, which really is a load of bollocks.

We also sell far too many players.

Other teams however continue to improve their squads quite significantly, and appear to have far more money than us too.

But the club sells the most expensive tickets in the country. Where does all that money go? And why did Fiszman say we have £30m to spend if required?

Meyyappan
03-09-2008, 12:14
Arsenal are reportedly set to sign Stephen Appiah. The talented Ghana international midfielder is understood to be in advanced discussions with Gunners' boss Arsene Wenger, and will sign a two year deal at the Emirates.

It was reported that West Ham had also made an offer for the former Fenerbahce midfielder, but the Gunners have stolen a march on their London rivals.

Appiah is one of the most highly regarded midfielders in Africa, and Arsenal are believed to be ready to pay a whopping £35,000 a week to Appiah to bring him to the Emirates Stadium.

Since the departure of Mathieu Flamini and Gilberto Silva, Arsenal have yet to have made moves in the transfer market to replace either; apart from signing youngster Amaury Bischoff.

It is understood that Wenger has decided that bringing Appiah to Arsenal will add plenty of experience to his squad; and his signing on a free transfer would be outside of the transfer window.

Nice addition on free.

Viperized
03-09-2008, 12:30
Source?

Joel
03-09-2008, 12:43
That is what I'm worried about.

It does seem like Wenger has some reluctance in signing new players. If he didn't, he wouldn't have tried to sign on the last day. He has spoken about how new players could unsettle his younger players, which really is a load of bollocks.

We also sell far too many players.

Other teams however continue to improve their squads quite significantly, and appear to have far more money than us too.

But the club sells the most expensive tickets in the country. Where does all that money go? And why did Fiszman say we have £30m to spend if required?

Isn't it obvious where it goes?

Viperized
03-09-2008, 13:02
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_4090147,00.html

Typical Van Persie. Another injury.

Bammers05
03-09-2008, 13:20
Nice addition on free.

Source?

Barry
03-09-2008, 13:26
I heard rumors of Appiah coming about 3 years ago. It is really a good move; in fact I would have like Ajax to go for him.

DJ Clue
03-09-2008, 15:15
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_4090147,00.html

Typical Van Persie. Another injury.

He should be fine Staurdays game.

ThierryHenry14
03-09-2008, 16:08
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_4090147,00.html

Typical Van Persie. Another injury.

You make it sounds like it's his fault.

Gooner10
03-09-2008, 18:43
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_4090147,00.html

Typical Van Persie. Another injury.

not really a bad injury though, he'll be back for the blackburn game, he's even playing against australia so it can't be serious

Nturtle
04-09-2008, 02:11
not really a bad injury though, he'll be back for the blackburn game, he's even playing against australia so it can't be serious

HAHAHA! I like that...

Well...Terry, Ferdinand also sat out England's trainin session...so that doesn't mean it's all wrong for England does it? :happy:

The Appiah story is flying around - apparently he was in talks with West Ham and Portsmouth too...but with Curbishy resigning...maybe that helps us get in there. Appiah has been out for a year, since leaving Fenerbache with an injury...could be another gamble...but the guy has experience so that helps. He's due to captain Ghana in the world cup qualifiers apparently.

wrathchild_uk
04-09-2008, 13:45
I think Appiah could be a decent move and even if he does shit it won't matter as he was free. Juve have been trying to bring him back for a while now so i guess he must still have something left in him!

DJ Clue
04-09-2008, 15:44
We can't sign him until Jan 09?

Gooner10
04-09-2008, 16:16
He' s a free agent so we can sign him outside of the transfer window

DJ Clue
04-09-2008, 16:20
Then why is Wnger waiting for?

wrathchild_uk
04-09-2008, 16:35
Perhaps City have tried to sign him at the last minute?

DJ Clue
04-09-2008, 17:05
Shhhhh, or they'll hear you.

Gooner10
04-09-2008, 17:16
Maybe Wenger doesn't want him, or talks are still ongoing.. it can take a while to get everything done and announced that the player has officially signed

Nturtle
05-09-2008, 04:48
Well...I look forward to a fit TEAM...then we might achieve something...Rosicky isn't the worst player in the world when he was playing fit, and Eduardo...well...we'll have to see if he regains his prowress after such a damaging injury.

BTW - interesting to see that our "weak" team has 15 possible international players for the World Cup qualifiers.

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/internationals-globetrotting-gunners-fly-out

Gooner10
05-09-2008, 18:09
Some of us, including me sometimes, still have to consider we may not have the superstars but as a team we are, in my opinion, one of the best in the world. It's a bit worrying that we have no real depth but we still have January and if Appiah signs we will have experience and back-up as well, plus the fact we have a lot of players coming back from injury. We have a great team and I firmly believe we have the potential to win everything

Phil W.A.F.C
05-09-2008, 18:21
Some of us, including me sometimes, still have to consider we may not have the superstars but as a team we are, in my opinion, one of the best in the world. It's a bit worrying that we have no real depth but we still have January and if Appiah signs we will have experience and back-up as well, plus the fact we have a lot of players coming back from injury. We have a great team and I firmly believe we have the potential to win everything

Are you for real? I was on about this at work today. United, Chelsea and even Liverpool have done it this season they can grind results out and win by playing badly but Arsenal have to play awesome to win. They never win scruffy or never win playing badly. It's a good thing but at the same time a bad thing.

DJ Clue
05-09-2008, 19:23
At least we win A silverware then i'll be happy for sure.

JoeyM
05-09-2008, 20:14
Are you for real? I was on about this at work today. United, Chelsea and even Liverpool have done it this season they can grind results out and win by playing badly but Arsenal have to play awesome to win. They never win scruffy or never win playing badly. It's a good thing but at the same time a bad thing.

This is probably the most trite, dated, and untrue criticism of us there is. It was true about two seasons ago when everyone first started saying it, but people are still repeating it despite the fact that it really doesn't apply at all to the current team. Last season we probably scored just as many, if not more, scrappy goals than beatiful goals, and a fair share of our victories featured less than stellar performances.

martin_cranie
05-09-2008, 21:06
Are you for real? I was on about this at work today. United, Chelsea and even Liverpool have done it this season they can grind results out and win by playing badly but Arsenal have to play awesome to win. They never win scruffy or never win playing badly. It's a good thing but at the same time a bad thing.

Conclusively proven after three or four games each. Good point.

Gooner10
05-09-2008, 22:48
Are you for real? I was on about this at work today. United, Chelsea and even Liverpool have done it this season they can grind results out and win by playing badly but Arsenal have to play awesome to win. They never win scruffy or never win playing badly. It's a good thing but at the same time a bad thing.

Have to play awesome to win? did you see us against Twente? not exactly awesome. Even against Newcastle we didn't play to our best. Granted the Fulham game didn't look promising but I stand by what I said, we can challenge for everything this year and win some major trophies

DJ Clue
05-09-2008, 23:47
That is our players stay injury free.

RB14 ARSENAL
05-09-2008, 23:49
Yeah, if Rosicky can get fit again and ready to play 90 minutes and get in form, it sure will be interesting to see the competition between Rosicky and Nasri over who plays left wing.

Meyyappan
06-09-2008, 05:30
it wont be interesting at all as both shall have a wing.

Gooner10
06-09-2008, 14:38
Nasri can play right wing as well so expect to see him put there at some point. Also I heard today Bischoff is about two weeks away from being able to train so hopefully we'll see him towards christmas and see what he has to offer

DJ Clue
06-09-2008, 15:27
I thought he was loaned out

Meyyappan
06-09-2008, 17:21
You were without a clue then djclue.

DJ Clue
06-09-2008, 17:41
:no:

nickpring
06-09-2008, 17:48
From what I hear Bischoff is a very injury prone player, who's really not that good. Werder Bremen had him in their reserves as he couldn't stay fit and couldn't make a breakthrough when he was fit. Eventually, his contract ran down, and Arsenal signed him up this summer.

Gooner10
06-09-2008, 18:16
Sounds promising... :D . I'm sure if Wenger wanted him he must have some talent... new Cesc maybe!? You never know!

Viperized
06-09-2008, 18:26
From what I hear Bischoff is a very injury prone player, who's really not that good. Werder Bremen had him in their reserves as he couldn't stay fit and couldn't make a breakthrough when he was fit. Eventually, his contract ran down, and Arsenal signed him up this summer.
It puzzled me why we signed him in the first place. He clearly won't get any game time ahead of Diaby and Denilson, add to the fact he has never played a first team game for Werder Bremen.

dotty_84
06-09-2008, 22:14
It puzzled me why we signed him in the first place. He clearly won't get any game time ahead of Diaby and Denilson, add to the fact he has never played a first team game for Werder Bremen.

I'm pretty sure Wenger bought him as he might see his potential come to fruition so yes i can see game time coming ahead if he's fit, and he matches Wengers ambitions.

Otherwise Wenger has spent money on a player for no reason at all maybe a bet?

somegooner
07-09-2008, 01:38
He didn't spend money, dotty. He was a free transfer.

Jonny2J
07-09-2008, 11:48
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_4112654,00.html

Arsenal captain William Gallas does not believe the Football Association handed out a long enough punishment to Newcastle United midfielder Joey Barton.

On Friday, Barton was handed a 12-game ban, six of which are suspended, for his training-ground assault on former Manchester City team-mate Ousmane Dabo.

Gallas, who came up against Barton in the Gunners' 3-0 win over the Magpies last weekend, feels the FA failed to sanction a tough enough penalty on the 26-year-old.

The France international said in the Sunday Express: "In my opinion it is not long enough, especially when you think about his attack on Ousmane Dabo and everything he has done besides.

"I don't understand the Football Association."

Barton made a late cameo in the Premier League match at Emirates Stadium, and was quickly involved in the action after he made a strong challenge on Arsenal's Samir Nasri.

Summer signing Nasri was then criticised after the game by Kevin Keegan with the former Magpies boss accusing the Frenchman of tripping Barton after the tackle.

Of the matter, Gallas added: "The moment Barton came on to the pitch he made a bad challenge on Samir Nasri.

"Samir responded with an act that maybe wasn't especially nice. But bearing in mind the player he did it to, then fair enough."

RB14 ARSENAL
07-09-2008, 11:52
Toure or Cesc for captain!!

ThierryHenry14
07-09-2008, 12:10
:huh:

wrathchild_uk
07-09-2008, 12:21
Any more news on the Appiah situation??

dotty_84
07-09-2008, 13:00
He didn't spend money, dotty. He was a free transfer.

Aye but wages maybe a signing on fee who knows

Dundon's
08-09-2008, 10:40
Right I just got back from Holidays over the weekend and missed the 4-0 and 3-0 victories. I take it Fab back in the middle is making all the difference?

Also heard Theo is in good form which is very satisfying.

nath_scfc
08-09-2008, 11:04
"Samir responded with an act that maybe wasn't especially nice. But bearing in mind the player he did it to, then fair enough."

:lol: Fair point.

Gooner10
08-09-2008, 14:15
Says on Skysports Arsenal made a late bid for M'Bia before the transfer window closed, at least that shows Wenger was looking for someone to come in. Also I heard Giovinco may be coming in January, this is not fact but it would be a class signing in my opinion and a young player as well that could be used as back-up at least. He's one of the best young talents i've seen in a while

RB14 ARSENAL
08-09-2008, 15:29
What position does Giovinco play?

somegooner
08-09-2008, 16:15
He is a traditional attacking midfielder. I think that if we sign him he will play on the wing though.

RB14 ARSENAL
08-09-2008, 16:18
We need a defensive midfielder more :erm:

DJ Clue
08-09-2008, 17:51
I think we may have enough for attacking, want see a good holding midfielder.

Nturtle
09-09-2008, 13:13
I think we may have enough for attacking, want see a good holding midfielder.

We may have Song for that role already.;)

Meyyappan
09-09-2008, 15:07
2-3 - 0 Win for us coming weekend

somegooner
09-09-2008, 15:22
2-1 for us or 1-1 this weekend.

DJ Clue
09-09-2008, 16:13
maybe 1-0 or 1-1.

50!
10-09-2008, 17:18
Arsenal striker Emmanuel Adebayor refused to board a plane for Togo's latest World Cup qualifier because he was convinced it was going to crash.

Ahead of tonight's clash with Zambia, Togo skipper Adebayor insisted the absence of the president of the country's football federation on the flight confirmed a rumour that he had heard that the plane would come down during the 400-mile flight.

In a scene reminiscent of the film Final Destination when a group of students exit a plane they believe to be doomed, Adebayor had already convinced many of his team-mates not to take the plane and said: 'My life is very dear to me and if we have to go down we'll all go down together with the president.

'There are rumours that if we get on the aircraft will go down.'


Togo federation president Tata Avlessi Adagio de Mass, with whom Adebayor has clashed over disciplinary matters, said a family bereavement prevented his making the flight, sparking the astonishing team refusal

Bergkamp syndrome?

Dragonfly
11-09-2008, 00:56
So, next time he goes to celebrate a goal, will he be impaled on the corner flag?

Nturtle
11-09-2008, 01:08
Well done Walcott...a hatrick for England...now that's the way to keep your chances of inclusion in the team up!!!

Gooner10
11-09-2008, 01:42
Hopefully this will be the confidence boost the boy needs and we'll see him score some like that for us this season

RB14 ARSENAL
11-09-2008, 07:56
Absolutely, I agree. A hat-trick playing on the right wing for England? Not bad at all :rolleyes:

This should stake Theo's place in the starting line-up :cool: So Eboue can be left on the bench to rot :ninja:

DJ Clue
11-09-2008, 15:46
Excellent stuff from Theo.

Poontang Pie
11-09-2008, 20:39
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger says he is not planning to sign Ghanaian midfielder Stephen Appiah.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_4131899,00.html

DJ Clue
11-09-2008, 21:11
>>>Gunners eye Brazilian<<< (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_4131149,00.html)

RB14 ARSENAL
11-09-2008, 22:11
Is he any good, like?

nickpring
11-09-2008, 22:35
Is he any good, like?

He's certainly experienced mate. Seen him play a few times, and has looked okay, but, not the best.

Yossi
11-09-2008, 23:06
He has 25 caps for Brazil, so he's got to be half decent.

Gooner10
12-09-2008, 01:14
Isn't he like 33?

Dragonfly
12-09-2008, 13:19
I knew it was Mineiro before I even clicked on the link. Weird. Anyway, I don't really rate him highly. He's decent, but not good enough for us.

Gooner10
12-09-2008, 21:54
Still, if he's on a free he can add some depth and experience when we need it... like now

DJ Clue
12-09-2008, 22:47
Uncertainty over Rosicky return (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_4134622,00.html)

Walcott may be left out (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_4134097,00.html)

CDDRodrigo
13-09-2008, 01:16
Mineiro is a good DMF, could play nice with Gilberto Silva ^^

Joel Rojo
13-09-2008, 03:09
At Panathinaikos?

RB14 ARSENAL
13-09-2008, 08:29
Predictions for todays game ??

I predict a 2-0 victory

freestyleh7
13-09-2008, 15:20
SuperVan ! scores

ThierryHenry14
13-09-2008, 15:43
# 35'Who is that going offside? Oh, it's Emmanuel Adebayor. Too much time watching that 'Best of Pippo Inzaghi' DVD.


:lol:

freestyleh7
13-09-2008, 16:04
Adebayor Goal number 2

Sweet ! Adebayor !
Sweet Adebayor !

Bammers05
13-09-2008, 16:48
3-0, Adebayor penalty.

Apparently, Eboue went down a little too easily for the penalty. Can't say I'm surprised tbh.

EDIT: 4-0, Adebayor's got his hat-trick. 4-0 away at Blackburn - What a result! :D

Viperized
13-09-2008, 16:55
4-0. Adebayor. Great pass by Ramsey.

Fantastic result and a great performance.

DJ Clue
13-09-2008, 17:11
Good game today, Ade's back to his best.

Meyyappan
13-09-2008, 17:34
Great performance we played the second half at ease and added two goals,overall we were able to win at ease to blackburn away.Seems like this year chelsea and man u havent what it takes whils pool are new challengers,i feel we can be champions.

nickpring
13-09-2008, 18:35
Great performance we played the second half at ease and added two goals,overall we were able to win at ease to blackburn away.Seems like this year chelsea and man u havent what it takes whils pool are new challengers,i feel we can be champions.

:lol:

You're an idiot.

Wan
13-09-2008, 19:48
:lol:

You're an idiot.

What he said.

Bammers05
13-09-2008, 19:59
:lol:

You're an idiot.

You only just realised?

papa
13-09-2008, 20:03
Great performance we played the second half at ease and added two goals,overall we were able to win at ease to blackburn away.Seems like this year chelsea and man u havent what it takes whils pool are new challengers,i feel we can be champions.

:shocking:

:no:

Dragonfly
13-09-2008, 20:05
:lol:

You're an idiot.

An idiot that makes sense.

freestyleh7
13-09-2008, 20:07
Great performance we played the second half at ease and added two goals,overall we were able to win at ease to blackburn away.Seems like this year chelsea and man u havent what it takes whils pool are new challengers,i feel we can be champions.

Thats well sead to be honest. ;)

nickpring
13-09-2008, 20:14
DF - How does he make sense?

I've seen numerous posts by him, and they've all made me laugh.

DJ Clue
13-09-2008, 20:32
Maybe his dreaming mate.

DanDaMan91
13-09-2008, 22:26
Fantastic performance today, Adebayor got a hat-trick.... Anyone see his celebration lol, guy looked like he hurt his back.

We play Dynamo on Wednesday, I feel instead of resting we should play a strong team.

For our first 3 CL games we play 2 away and 1 at home. If we will all of those we pretty much have the group sown up. I'd like to get 9 points out of those 3 games and then rotate for the final 3.

Meyyappan
14-09-2008, 05:09
:lol:

You're an idiot.

Okay guys got a bit over excited,i had not seen the chelsea game,Chavs have experience over us as edge but i still feel we can be champions.

Meyyappan
14-09-2008, 05:19
There is one thing thats been bugging me through the past few days about a number of things with our squad...

First of all we are missing 3/4 (debatable) starting players: Eduardo, Rosiscky, Diaby, Nasri.
That is the equivilent of the other top 4 clubs missing players:


Man U: Berbatov, Ronaldo, Anderson, Nani/Giggs.

Liverpool: Keane, Babel, Benayoun, Mascherano

Chelsea: Anelka, Malouda, J. Cole, Ballack


Without our missing players we totally outclassed Newcastle and Blackburn winning by a margin of 3 or greater. You can see that when the other top clubs play with players missing, most of the time they end up scraping a win or just drawing (i.e. Newcastle-Man United). Everybody's been complaining that we lack depth but the thing is ... do we actually need any more depth?

The arrivals or Rosicky, Diaby and Eduardo will be similar to 3 new signings as we will have played so many games without them. Appiah would have been good, BUT he is injury prone and what's wrong with Denilson, Eboue or Song filling in for Diaby? Sure, on paper they may seem fit for the reserves, but so far all 3 have been solid for us. ESPECIALLY Denilson/EBOUE*!

Defensively we have one of the BEST department with a balance of experience and youth along with possibly the 2 best full backs (clichy/sagna) in the world. Djourou (great with gallas) and Silvestre (can play many pos.) is enough to cover us this season in case of injuries!

the final thing that has me worried is what will happen once rosicky and eduardo come back. Where will they fit in with our well-planned set up? If it ain't broke don't fix it??? Well, it ain't broke so we don't need to fix it! obviously we'll need all the help possible in the second half of season. but these are just a few things on my mind.

***by the way, we do not need any more players, depending on whether all of our current players end up injury-free!***


What do you think? discuss.


*if there is one thing I hate about arsenal ... its those fans who hate eboue! According to most of the arsenal players eboue is the biggest joker. He lifts the player's spirits when they're down and gives them a reason to laugh when there is none!

Eboue does a LOT MORE for the team than you think, albeit off-pitch. Right now anyway he is very reliable defensively when we need him and also great in attack, pushing the play upwards and even assisted a goal. HE IS DOING SOMETHING RIGHT FOR US! BTW he was one of those, along with Nasri and Clichy, who was trying their best against Fulhum Away!
**EBOUE IS CLASS**

AgentZero
14-09-2008, 08:44
Great performance we played the second half at ease and added two goals,overall we were able to win at ease to blackburn away.Seems like this year chelsea and man u havent what it takes whils pool are new challengers,i feel we can be champions.
Chelsea are top.

Meyyappan
14-09-2008, 09:30
Chelsea are top.

Yeah true why do you not comment on my above article about squad depth.

DanDaMan91
14-09-2008, 12:42
There is one thing thats been bugging me through the past few days about a number of things with our squad...

First of all we are missing 3/4 (debatable) starting players: Eduardo, Rosiscky, Diaby, Nasri.
That is the equivilent of the other top 4 clubs missing players:


Man U: Berbatov, Ronaldo, Anderson, Nani/Giggs.

Liverpool: Keane, Babel, Benayoun, Mascherano

Chelsea: Anelka, Malouda, J. Cole, Ballack


Without our missing players we totally outclassed Newcastle and Blackburn winning by a margin of 3 or greater. You can see that when the other top clubs play with players missing, most of the time they end up scraping a win or just drawing (i.e. Newcastle-Man United). Everybody's been complaining that we lack depth but the thing is ... do we actually need any more depth?

The arrivals or Rosicky, Diaby and Eduardo will be similar to 3 new signings as we will have played so many games without them. Appiah would have been good, BUT he is injury prone and what's wrong with Denilson, Eboue or Song filling in for Diaby? Sure, on paper they may seem fit for the reserves, but so far all 3 have been solid for us. ESPECIALLY Denilson/EBOUE*!

Defensively we have one of the BEST department with a balance of experience and youth along with possibly the 2 best full backs (clichy/sagna) in the world. Djourou (great with gallas) and Silvestre (can play many pos.) is enough to cover us this season in case of injuries!

the final thing that has me worried is what will happen once rosicky and eduardo come back. Where will they fit in with our well-planned set up? If it ain't broke don't fix it??? Well, it ain't broke so we don't need to fix it! obviously we'll need all the help possible in the second half of season. but these are just a few things on my mind.

***by the way, we do not need any more players, depending on whether all of our current players end up injury-free!***


What do you think? discuss.


*if there is one thing I hate about arsenal ... its those fans who hate eboue! According to most of the arsenal players eboue is the biggest joker. He lifts the player's spirits when they're down and gives them a reason to laugh when there is none!

Eboue does a LOT MORE for the team than you think, albeit off-pitch. Right now anyway he is very reliable defensively when we need him and also great in attack, pushing the play upwards and even assisted a goal. HE IS DOING SOMETHING RIGHT FOR US! BTW he was one of those, along with Nasri and Clichy, who was trying their best against Fulhum Away!
**EBOUE IS CLASS**
We have depth, do we have the strength though?

Yes we did beat Blackburn away. But don't forget the week before we lost to Fulham with more or less the same team.

I see it this way. If Diaby is injured Denilson comes in. With Man United, if Carrick is injured Hargreaves comes in. There sub sounds alot better right?

But with that said, the players we have play very well.

Our reserves once again have the capability to go far in the Carling Cup, and our first squad ARE title contenders and can go far in the CL.

As for Eboue, the guy is a fantastic athlete he makes great runs and puts in good crosses. But as soon as he gets in the box it's like he has two left feet. Does the guy know how to shoot on target??? TBH I don't know.

He has about the same power as Roberto Carlos but the accuracy of Titus Bramble.
Yeah true why do you not comment on my above article about squad depth.

AgentZero
14-09-2008, 13:00
Yeah true why do you not comment on my above article about squad depth.

the other one turned up first (linear display)

DJ Clue
14-09-2008, 16:03
>>>Central role suits Silvestre<<< (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_4143704,00.html)

>>>Veloso linked with Premier duo<<< (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_4143096,00.html)

dotty_84
14-09-2008, 16:12
I like what you wrote Meyyappan although you outclassed a Newcastle team that had shit happening behind the scenes definately causing effect on the their squad, a and beat a Blackburn who haven't played great a few games in.

Newcastle drew with Man U first game of the season a Man U who have been slow off the pace again.

I agree with the Eboue lad, he does has been rotated from RB to CB to CM and played well.

Denilson played well yesterday, and i do think this is the best chance Arsenal have to win the title this year.

But Chelsea for me are far to strong and are the team to beat they grind results which arsenal struggle to do at times.

Cole/Bosingwa > Clichy/Sagna

freestyleh7
14-09-2008, 16:38
To be honest i would like to see silvestre to play central midfield behind cesc fabregas.

RB14 ARSENAL
14-09-2008, 16:42
:mellow: When since is Silvestre a midfielder??

freestyleh7
14-09-2008, 16:44
Seen him play a few games for manchester united as a midfielder.

Phil W.A.F.C
14-09-2008, 16:47
Seen him play a few games for manchester united as a midfielder.

When was that? I cant recall that.

nickpring
14-09-2008, 16:48
Where does it say that he's going to play in Central Midfield?

RB14 ARSENAL
14-09-2008, 16:51
He can play anywhere in defence, he wasn't signed for midfield..he was signed for extra cover in defence

freestyleh7
14-09-2008, 16:54
Could have sworn i've seen him in midfielder before, either that or he pushes up alot.


He can play anywhere in defence, he wasn't signed for midfield..he was signed for extra cover in defence

Nahh u think.

nickpring
14-09-2008, 16:54
I was just curious on where the talk of Silvestre playing in midfield came from. :lol:

freestyleh7
14-09-2008, 17:00
think i saw it in a 4-4-2 magazine and from some arsenal fan forum's.

DanDaMan91
14-09-2008, 17:14
Whats wrong with Denilson, he's played pretty well.

Silvestre is a back up for Toure and Gallas not a midfielder.

Barry
14-09-2008, 17:37
Cole/Bosingwa > Clichy/Sagna

I'd say they are equal. Actually these are some of the finest backs in football nowadays.

DJ Clue
14-09-2008, 18:10
Silvestre himself said he wouldn't mind playing as a holding midfielder if needed, well he might make his debut against Dynamo on Wednesday.

Meyyappan
14-09-2008, 18:42
I'd say they are equal. Actually these are some of the finest backs in football nowadays.

Quoted in agreement.

freestyleh7
14-09-2008, 19:32
Silvestre himself said he wouldn't mind playing as a holding midfielder if needed, well he might make his debut against Dynamo on Wednesday.

Exactly, see DJ Clue has got my back, everyone else has been reading too much match magazine, and i hope he does make his debut though.

DJ Clue
14-09-2008, 20:39
I got your back any day, any time.

:)

What Blud!

:lol2:

Phil W.A.F.C
14-09-2008, 20:44
Exactly, see DJ Clue has got my back, everyone else has been reading too much match magazine, and i hope he does make his debut though.

Playing in a position and saying you will play in a position are two differant things though.

freestyleh7
15-09-2008, 16:21
any opinions on what the result will be against dynamo kiev ?

mufcsean
15-09-2008, 16:27
It's not an easy place to go with the weather conditions but Kiev have a terrible record in the group stages so i fully expect a heavy win for Arsenal here, the way you played against blackburn was awesome at times and doesn't even look like you were trying.

DanDaMan91
15-09-2008, 17:54
Cole/Bosingwa > Clichy/Sagna
Not sure about that, personally I think Clichy/Sagna just edge it.

--

I remember last season, if our away games for the group stages.

Sparta Prague
Sevilla
Steaua Bucuresti

We only won one of those and that was a 1-0 win against Steaua Bucuresti. Something about going away to a foreign country and the hostile atmosphere makes Arsenal play kinda crappy.

I mean Sevilla merked us 3-1 away, but we go to San Siro and show Milan how to play football. Don't get it?

wrigh2uk
15-09-2008, 18:32
any opinions on what the result will be against dynamo kiev ?

2-0 Theo and Ade, Theo has a thing for scoring in these sort of CL games.

ThierryHenry14
15-09-2008, 18:52
Did Cesc play against Blackburn?

DanDaMan91
15-09-2008, 18:55
Yeah, I thought he was pretty average but TheMirror.com gave him Man Of The Match lol.

ThierryHenry14
15-09-2008, 18:58
Hmmm when I was watching MOTD he didn't seem to be involved with any of the goals.

DJ Clue
15-09-2008, 21:10
Yeah didn't see him that much.

DARK JAK
15-09-2008, 22:14
MOTD hate Arsenal. We are always near the end when they show us and when we do come on they don't talk about us much.

Morons.

freestyleh7
15-09-2008, 22:21
MOTD hate Arsenal. We are always near the end when they show us and when we do come on they don't talk about us much.

Morons.

We are the most hated team in the premier league. :lol:

ThierryHenry14
15-09-2008, 22:25
We are the most hated team in the England League. :lol:

I thought that was Tottenham :lol:

RB14 ARSENAL
15-09-2008, 22:26
Aye, I agree; whenever SkySports show Arsenal (not very often) and Andy Gray is commentating he always seems to pick on Arsenal and talk about bad little things about Arsenal's play, rather than picking up the good things Arsenal do.

I hate the guy

Viperized
15-09-2008, 22:48
MOTD hate Arsenal. We are always near the end when they show us and when we do come on they don't talk about us much.

Morons.
Don't forget that they only show 2 minutes of us.

DJ Clue
15-09-2008, 23:23
Arsenal's CL match is Live on Sky Sports 3 on Wednesday.

Nturtle
16-09-2008, 02:07
I thought that was Tottenham :lol:

Nah..they are just holding up the EPL table at the bottom...worst start in 35 years!!! So much for $70M well spent!! :rolleyes:

No need to gloat yet...let's see where they are at the end of the season...we might be surprised and they miss out on UEFA...uh...sorry...miss out on relegation!!

Upwards and onwards....Champs League & a tough game! Looking to see Bendtner and Vela up front I think, and probably a debut for Silvestre in left back if Clichy is dodgy. Dinamo just won 5-0 with a reserve side on the weekend...so they'll be up for it.

Dundon's
16-09-2008, 05:10
Setanta are showing a shit load of gunners games so far this season if it's any consolation.

RB14 ARSENAL
16-09-2008, 07:54
Arsenal's CL match is Live on Sky Sports 3 on Wednesday.

Cool :cool: I shall be watching that.. I think it will be a nice, easy win for the boys.. Hopefully Theo can impress again and supply Ade to score a couple, and then score a couple himself :cool:

Who are the dangermen for Kiev? Who is their star player(s)?

mufcsean
16-09-2008, 13:22
Bangoura is a decent player, he scored against us in last seasons group stages, apparently Aliyev is a good player also.

DJ Clue
16-09-2008, 14:19
Dynamo's manager was watching us at the weekend.

DARK JAK
16-09-2008, 14:55
Don't forget that they only show 2 minutes of us.

I've never understood why they do it.

freestyleh7
16-09-2008, 19:56
Match of the day is so far up man u & chelseas arse, its unbelieveable

DJ Clue
16-09-2008, 23:02
I know man.

mufcsean
16-09-2008, 23:17
When Henry was at Arsenal the same could be said for you

freestyleh7
17-09-2008, 00:16
I wonder what formation wenger is going to pull out against dynamo kiev ?

mufcsean
17-09-2008, 00:21
Same as Saturday i'd suspect

freestyleh7
17-09-2008, 00:31
Van persie still aint fit i see.

mufcsean
17-09-2008, 00:33
gPiZc2pkrb8&hl

Thats how its done, whats your point?

freestyleh7
17-09-2008, 00:37
Can't remember now. lol something to do with match of the day moaning about arsenal, thanks for posting it anyway i'm sure it will come into my head in a minute.

mufcsean
17-09-2008, 00:43
Arsenal always being near the end of the highlights.

pistolpete
17-09-2008, 11:34
Van persie still aint fit i see.

Still not fit?

He played (and scored against Blackburn)

He is in the squad to play in Kiev according to Arsenal.com.

Where you getting your info from?

freestyleh7
17-09-2008, 14:26
From Setanta sports news.

somegooner
17-09-2008, 15:11
--------------------Almunia------------------
---Sagna----Touré---------Gallas---Clichy-
---Eboué----Fabregas----Denilson-Walcott-
--------------Adebayor---Bendtner-----------

Subs:
- Fabianski
- Djourou
- Song
- Gibbs
- Wilshire
- Vela
- Van Persie

DJ Clue
17-09-2008, 16:21
No Nasri or Silvestre

somegooner
17-09-2008, 19:27
I don't think either are fit.

ThierryHenry14
17-09-2008, 19:41
It was confirmed like yesterday that they wouldn't play.

freestyleh7
17-09-2008, 21:38
Good game tonight, played well kiev but we should of won that, gallas scoring again, walcott was amazing and now we can take them to the emirates to give em a good hiding.

Dragonfly
17-09-2008, 21:47
I'll take the draw. I knew it would be hard, but I'm expecting three points from the home game. I can imagine Porto and Fenerbahce also losing points at Kiev, especially as it will get colder in the up coming months.

cadey
17-09-2008, 23:07
Good result for you twats tonight.

Well done.

DJ Clue
17-09-2008, 23:36
Twats get out!! ;)

Good chances we've missed, specially Ade's first half chance, ahh fair enough 1-1 we'll see what we can do in The Emirates.

freestyleh7
18-09-2008, 00:05
Gallas Is Legde

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuPbMwajkqI

RB14 ARSENAL
18-09-2008, 07:14
:chanlaugh: Brilliant

RB14 ARSENAL
18-09-2008, 16:47
Yaya Toure has revealed that Arsene Wenger and his brother Kolo tried to persuade him to join Arsenal in the summer, but he did not want to leave Barcelona.

MORE (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_4161776,00.html)

Your thoughts??

mufcsean
18-09-2008, 16:50
It's hardly surprising, he is a brilliant talent and would have filled the gap that Flamini left with ease. He was linked to you a lot before going to Barca.

RB14 ARSENAL
18-09-2008, 16:53
Yeah, it's surprising his brother couldn't persuade him to move lol. You would think brothers would love to play for same team, but obviously he likes style of La Liga more, and must like the Spanish climate more.

DJ Clue
18-09-2008, 16:54
Yaya would've been a great addition.

Looks like Wenger eyeing Veloso.

RB14 ARSENAL
18-09-2008, 16:58
Who is better: Miguel Veloso or Yaya Toure?

Yossi
18-09-2008, 17:02
Toure would complement Fabregas better, and is probably better anyway.

mufcsean
18-09-2008, 17:02
Toure is more solid and experienced so i personally would rather have Yaya Toure.

DJ Clue
18-09-2008, 17:14
Yaya fo sure.

Veloso still young 22 i think.

dotty_84
18-09-2008, 18:53
I'd prefer Veloso young and Wenger could still mold him a little but Yaya does attack more

Nturtle
19-09-2008, 07:02
LOL...was an extremely soft penalty...it's situations like that where you wish the 4th official could look at replays...a VERY clever pull down by the Kiev player on Sagna...and Sagna even got booked! What injustice!!

Tough match...should have been more clinical...I had hoped Bendtner played instead of Adebayour...maybe that will happen at Bolton.

Dundon's
19-09-2008, 09:17
Yea he practically cured his body around Sagna, cheating cunts.

nath_scfc
19-09-2008, 09:45
Yeah, it's surprising his brother couldn't persuade him to move lol. You would think brothers would love to play for same team, but obviously he likes style of La Liga more, and must like the Spanish climate more.

...and why make the step-down?

ThierryHenry14
19-09-2008, 10:58
American businessman Stan Kroenke has joined the Arsenal board after accepting an invitation to become a non-executive director of the Barclays Premier League club.

The billionaire owner of Kroenke Sports Enterprises holds 12.4 per cent of shares in Arsenal Holdings PLC, and his prospective appointment to the board was widely interpreted as an attempt to stave off a potential takeover from Uzbek oligarch Alisher Usmanov.

Kroenke has not, however, signed up to the 'lockdown' agreement drawn up by board members last year which prevents the trading of shares without the consent of fellow directors.

In a statement released on Friday morning, the board, which is led by club chairman Peter Hill-Wood, claimed Kroenke was fully behind their business model - a thinly-veiled attack on the owner-funded approach that would come with an Usmanov takeover.

"Mr Kroenke fully supports the approach the board has taken in setting the direction of the club," the statement read.

"The board believes Mr Kroenke's experience in sports team commercial management, sports marketing, media and new media rights as well as real estate development will be of great value."

The sports franchise mogul's appointment shows the thawing of relations between Kroenke and the board after his initial investment in April 2007 was met with horror by Hill-Wood, who claimed "his sort" was not welcome.

DJ Clue
19-09-2008, 13:34
So they still on the lockdown agreement, i think i heard Hill Wood saying if a right price comes then there is chance selling the club.

ThierryHenry14
19-09-2008, 14:35
Kroenke has not, however, signed up to the 'lockdown' agreement drawn up by board members last year which prevents the trading of shares without the consent of fellow directors.
.

DJ Clue
20-09-2008, 00:08
Wenger reveals Rosicky latest
Gunners boss hopeful playmaker returns before Christmas

Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger is 'optimistic' playmaker Tomas Rosicky could return from injury before Christmas.

Rosicky has not featured for the Gunners since January, after undergoing hamstring surgery in May, but had been expected to make his comeback this month.

However, the Czech Republic international suffered a setback in his recovery leading some reports to even suggest his career could be under threat.

Rosicky's agent, Pavel Paska, moved to dispel those rumours on Thursday, and now Wenger has explained the reasons behind the delay.

The Frenchman told the club's official website: "He is not close to playing again and he has not had any real setback, but the evolution (of his injury) is very slow.

Patience
"The recovery process is slower than we expected at the start. It doesn't look worrying but the delay is longer than expected.

"He had a re-attached tendon that was loose in his hamstring, and that demands a lot of time to re-coordinate the movements of the hamstring. That makes it very difficult to predict exactly one week more or less how much time it will take.

"But I am optimistic that before Christmas you will see him in a good shape."

Of the injury, Rosicky told Denik Sport: "Everything went well, according to the schedule. When I was running long distances, it [the hamstring] gave me no problems at all.

"But when I started on the ball and tried to change directions of running and changed pace, the knee reacted badly. So far it does not allow me to go on in the recovery so it has stopped my training for some time. I am not resting completely, though.

"I can lift weights and do other exercises. The knee simply must get down. It does not mean at all though that I have to end my career.

"I don't understand how it could have been published as no-one has spoken with me on this issue. This news have come out probably because I was expected to return in September, which failed.


Eduardo

"This injury is unusual and odd. Doctors tell me that the pain can fade away quickly and I can be back in three weeks, but it can also take more time.

"That is why I have to be patient. Every such treatment can bring unexpected problems with it. That is what has happened now so my return will be delayed."

Wenger also gave an update on long-term injury victim Eduardo, who suffered a broken leg against Birmingham in February.

"He is still very much on course and he could be a very good surprise because he is a little ahead of schedule," Wenger added.

CDDRodrigo
20-09-2008, 00:21
Eduardo...

That was a very scaring injury...

Dragonfly
20-09-2008, 00:26
It doesn't look like Rosicky will be playing before Christmas, or even soon after the new year. To be honest, I'd rather let him play with the reserves for at least a month after he starts to properly get back into training. I fear he will be injured for the rest of the season if he comes back early.

DJ Clue
20-09-2008, 01:01
Me think so aswell.

RB14 ARSENAL
20-09-2008, 09:07
From BBC gossip collumn: Arsenal hope to appoint a new managing director shortly, with Vodaphone's Paul Donovan linked with the vacancy. (Independent)

Arsenal's wage bill has risen by 13 per cent to £101.3m, despte the departure of several highly paid players. (Times)

Arsenal announce jump in profits

Arsenal have disclosed their profits last season jumped to £37m ($64.4m) but they also had a rise in debts.

The news comes at a time when one of the club's key shareholders, US sports tycoon Stan Kroenke, has become a non-executive director of the club.

Despite failing to win any silverware, the club's income rose by 11% to £223m thanks to more lucrative TV deals.

Its debts rose by 12% to £318m as it borrowed more to pay for redeveloping its old Highbury stadium.

But the club said those debts would fall this coming year as the development of the North London stadium, called Highbury Square, is completed and the 680 flats are eventually sold.

Takeover?

The most eye-catching development is the appointment of the billionaire US sports entrepreneur as a non-executive director at Arsenal.

The board said it had invited Mr Kroenke, who owns a 12% stake in the club, to join the club because of his experience in managing sporting businesses and to help in the further commercial development of the club.

His firm, Kroenke Sports Enterprises (KSE), owns the Denver Nuggets basketball franchise, the Colorado Avalanche ice hockey team and Major League Soccer side Colorado Rapids.

When he bought his stake in Arsenal in early 2007 it was thought he was preparing to launch a takeover.

That possibility led to the club's former vice-chairman David Dein being forced out because of his apparent support for such a move.

Dein then sold his shareholding to the Russian billionaire Alisher Usmanov, whose investment vehicle Red and White Holdings now controls a 23% stake in Arsenal.

To thwart any hostile takeover, the remaining Arsenal directors agreed to a "lock-down" - which means they cannot sell their shares to anyone before April 2009 other than a limited number of people, such as family members.

After that, until October 2012, they cannot sell to anyone else without giving the other directors the first option to buy.

Mr Kroenke is not party to that agreement but said he would not raise his own stake in the club beyond 29.9% at any time in the next 12 months, unless it was with the agreement of the Arsenal board or if the club was the subject of a takeover bid.

BBC sports editor Mihir Bose said: "Arsenal are feeling they should broadcast the fact that the financial world may be in meltdown but they are fine.

"The elephant in the room is Usmanov, the Uzbek businessman. The question is what will he do? Will he bid for the club? That still remains a question mark."

Stadium

The Arsenal chairman, Peter Hill-Wood, said the club was in a strong financial position which vindicated its decision to move to the new Emirates stadium two seasons ago.

"We are committed to operating the Club as a business which is financially self-sustaining," he said.

"This is clearly demonstrated having achieved our second highest ever pre-tax profit of £36.7m.

"Over the last two seasons Emirates Stadium has taken our football revenues to a new level, but we cannot be complacent," he added.

The Gunner's chairman admitted that the sale of flats at Highbury might be affected by the current downturn in the UK property market, which he said was being "closely monitored".

But he explained that the club's finances did not depend on this future income.

"The final profits and cash to be released to the club on completion of these property developments has not been budgeted by the club and will be treated as a bonus when received - accordingly, there is no commitment to use any such profits and cash at any specific time for any specific purpose."

Initial income will however be used to pay off the club's bank loans.

Your thoughts people?

DJ Clue
20-09-2008, 15:41
Hmmmm...

I really dunno what to say, one minute they making profit and the next they in debt.

wrigh2uk
20-09-2008, 16:08
Hmmmm...

I really dunno what to say, one minute they making profit and the next they in debt.

The stadium is basically paying for itself I dunno why it continuely gets mentioned as debt. You wouldn't exactly look at a mortage as 'debt' and its the same as our stadium.

DJ Clue
20-09-2008, 17:35
Anyone watching Bolton v Arsenal game?

Viperized
20-09-2008, 17:42
After looking at the starting lineup, I think a draw is the most realistic result achievable.

Adebayor + Bendtner has NEVER worked, and never has looked like working. I would've liked to have seen Vela and Adebayor.

And I think our midfield is quite weak. Song gave a lot of fouls away at Dinamo Kiev, and while Denilson played well, he is an awful winger. That is, if he decides to play as one this time - we will have no width due to this and will have Cesc, Song AND Denilson in the middle of the park. At least Eboue has looked a lot sharper now.

But I guess this is what you get for not improving your squad. We have too many central midfielders and too few wingers. How can Wenger not see we need a winger? We've needed one for the past 2 years and he showed ZERO interest in buying one over these years.

Zoolander
20-09-2008, 17:43
I love your optimism.

Viperized
20-09-2008, 17:46
LOL, how predictable.

1-0 Bolton.

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ThierryHenry14
20-09-2008, 17:48
Damn the Bolton curse. We'll hopefully come back though.

Viperized
20-09-2008, 17:53
Hmm.. close chance by Toure. Should've been on target.

Still, 70 minutes to go and we could still win it.

DJ Clue
20-09-2008, 17:54
Oh Ady, damn hit the the post.

Viperized
20-09-2008, 17:55
Another easy chance wasted by Adebayor.

But we're playing well. I think we should be able to equalise soon

DJ Clue
20-09-2008, 17:57
Ebouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu ueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

somegooner
20-09-2008, 17:58
WOOOOHOOOOO!!!!!

Eboué and Bendtner!!!!

DJ Clue
20-09-2008, 18:00
W0000000000t!!!

2-1

I'm liking how is Eboue's playing.

ThierryHenry14
20-09-2008, 18:12
I was right. :ninja:

DJ Clue
20-09-2008, 18:23
It ain't looking good for Clichy.

somegooner
20-09-2008, 18:31
Who do you think will come on??

Djourou or Gibbs??

DJ Clue
20-09-2008, 18:57
Did Clichy go off?

ThierryHenry14
20-09-2008, 19:01
Djourou came on I think.

DJ Clue
20-09-2008, 19:14
Dammit!

Another blow.

Walcott is just amazing.

Bammers05
20-09-2008, 19:34
After looking at the starting lineup, I think a draw is the most realistic result achievable.

Adebayor + Bendtner has NEVER worked, and never has looked like working. I would've liked to have seen Vela and Adebayor.

And I think our midfield is quite weak. Song gave a lot of fouls away at Dinamo Kiev, and while Denilson played well, he is an awful winger. That is, if he decides to play as one this time - we will have no width due to this and will have Cesc, Song AND Denilson in the middle of the park. At least Eboue has looked a lot sharper now.

But I guess this is what you get for not improving your squad. We have too many central midfielders and too few wingers. How can Wenger not see we need a winger? We've needed one for the past 2 years and he showed ZERO interest in buying one over these years.

:doh:

Top of the table :D

ThierryHenry14
20-09-2008, 19:40
I knew we would win all along. :shifty:

freestyleh7
20-09-2008, 19:42
Good game from the lads, Adebayor has to start putting those chances away.

DJ Clue
20-09-2008, 20:02
True say my brother. :D

wrigh2uk
20-09-2008, 21:00
I'm really happy with the result, we haven't exactly had games to remember against Bolton but today was a very good result.

Yossi
20-09-2008, 23:09
Who do you think will come on??

Djourou or Gibbs??

If Gibbs was on the bench for any other reason than to make up the numbers, I would be amazed. Four or five months ago, he wasn't even Championship standard.

We have too many central midfielders and too few wingers. How can Wenger not see we need a winger? We've needed one for the past 2 years and he showed ZERO interest in buying one over these years.

This has been overlooked as a very valid point, as I have mentioned before in this thread. Although I think you need two, to be honest, as I don't think Eboue is quite up to being a regular in the side.

Dragonfly
20-09-2008, 23:19
I think it's clear Wenger doesn't usually go for conventional wingers. He prefers to put attacking midfielders out wide, or the type of winger whose main strategy is to ran down the line and cross it in. Wenger likes the type of winger that will play his self into the box with a one-two, and if he does cross the ball, it will be a cut-back or a low cross across the six yard box.

Yossi
20-09-2008, 23:23
A conventional winger would give you another dimension though, and I reckon Adebayor wouldn't mind few more crosses to attack. If you lacked a striker who could score from headers then I'd agree with you, but with players like Adebayor and Bendtner available, I reckon a winger would give you a different edge.

Dragonfly
20-09-2008, 23:33
I'm not saying we shouldn't get a winger, because I agree one of the conventional type would give us more options in our style of play. I'm just saying it's futile moaning or demanding Wenger to act a certain way. Anyway, I think we have players that are able to beat players and put in crosses, it's just that they're probably instructed to play a way that minimises this option.

ThierryHenry14
21-09-2008, 16:54
Anyone else lookin forward to the game against Tottenham?
:lol::lol::lol:

RB14 ARSENAL
21-09-2008, 17:05
Yeah I am definately, should be a easy win for us especially at home :cool: Hopefully Arsenal're top of the league, and Tottenham're still rock bottom when they meet on 29th October. :D


23 Tue Carling Cup H Sheff Utd 19:45 ATVO
27 Sat Barclays England League H Hull City 17:30 SET1
30 Tue UEFA Champions League H FC Porto 19:45 ATVO
October F A
04 Sat Barclays England League A Sunderland 15:00 ATVO
18 Sat Barclays England League H Everton 15:00 ATVO
21 Tue UEFA Champions League A Fenerbahce 19:45 ATVO
26 Sun Barclays England League A West Ham United 16:00 SS1
29 Wed Barclays England League H Tottenham Hotspur 20:00 SS2

2 vital UCL games to win before we think of the North London Derby, mind.

DanDaMan91
21-09-2008, 18:34
Arsenal be top.... Spurs be bottom. It's like Christmas.

I'm finally confident that we can rest Adebayor and Bendtner be able to make up for it. He was very good yesterday.

for our next EPL game it's Hull at home..... REST FABREGAS!!!!!!!!!

If we can't beat Hull without Fabregas we don't deserve to win a trophy.

Dragonfly
21-09-2008, 18:56
I have a bad feeling Spurs will turn it around against us. It would be typical.

RB14 ARSENAL
21-09-2008, 19:02
I have a bad feeling Spurs will turn it around against us. It would be typical.

:no: Don't say that.. That would be hell.. we need to get revenge over them, after they beat us in the Carling Cup last year :ninja:

freestyleh7
21-09-2008, 21:51
It was pretty funny how bad we played that day, i dont think they will beat us most likely to be a draw to be honest.

ThierryHenry14
21-09-2008, 21:52
Well it was our reserve team soo.

freestyleh7
21-09-2008, 21:55
Well it was our reserve team soo.

Plus we wasnt really bothered about these mickey mouse cups, all eyes were on the champions league.

mufcsean
21-09-2008, 21:57
Maybe you should have concentrated on "the mickey mouse cup" as some silverware is better than none, idiot

freestyleh7
21-09-2008, 22:11
Maybe you should have concentrated on "the mickey mouse cup" as some silverware is better than none, idiot

We were in the quarter-final of The champions league, and it was still up for grabs at the time and was more important, moron.

DJ Clue
21-09-2008, 22:12
Well Spudz did play with a first team players didn't they

Guillermo
21-09-2008, 22:13
We were in the semi-final of The champions league, and it was still up for grabs at the time and was more important, moron.

Oh dear. http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5904/faceplmnc5.png

freestyleh7
21-09-2008, 22:16
We almost had our hands on nearly everything, the champions league the england league the carling cup.

Dragonfly
21-09-2008, 22:16
Maybe you should have concentrated on "the mickey mouse cup" as some silverware is better than none, idiot
It's a cup for spastics. Three handles? WTF?

Oh dear. http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5904/faceplmnc5.png

Tell me about it. :no:

ThierryHenry14
21-09-2008, 22:17
Freestyleh does not represent the views and opinions of Pesgaming Arsenal fans.

DJ Clue
21-09-2008, 22:17
:lol:

mufcsean
21-09-2008, 22:19
Firstly, you didn't reach the semi final of the champions league.
Secondly at the time of losing to Spurs in the league cup the champions league was still in the group stages.

freestyleh7
21-09-2008, 22:24
yeah my bad i meant the quarter final, got mixed up with the carling cup, and exactly the champions league was still up for grabs.

DJ Clue
21-09-2008, 22:31
Man get over it.

RB14 ARSENAL
21-09-2008, 22:33
Man get over it.

.

Nturtle
22-09-2008, 07:06
Sheffield looks to be a good challenge. Maybe Vela and Bendtner will start this time, along with perhaps Song + Ramsey instead of Denilson/Fab. We'll see. Still need to figure out the central defensive pairing though...maybe it'll be Djourou + Hoyte...pretty risky...but maybe just as brittle as Toure/Gallas!! HA! Let's see if the even younger lads get a chance.