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Meyyappan
22-09-2008, 12:40
Fulham 1-0 Arsenal
I think that result was an early wake-up call for the Gunners and took the load off of trying to go through the season unbeaten.
ThierryHenry14
22-09-2008, 21:49
Arsène Wenger may name the youngest first-team side in Arsenal’s history for the Carling Cup tie against Sheffield United on Tuesday.
It is now normal for the Frenchman to send out youngsters in this competition however, against the Blades, Alex Song (21), Nicklas Bendtner (20), Johan Djourou (21) and Lukasz Fabianski (23) are likely to be the ‘old heads’.
Wenger intends the field to include a raft of 17, 18 and 19-year-olds. Rising star Jack Wilshere, age 16 years 266 days, is likely to start his first competitive game for the Club. But he may not be the youngest Arsenal player on show. Speaking to Arsenal TV Online on Monday, Wenger suggested he may include first-year scholar Emmanuel Frimpong. He is a full nine days younger than Wilshere.
“There is a possibility [it will be the youngest side ever],” said Wenger. “In the first team there are many players around 20. In the Carling Cup we will keep a few in there but the side will be more between 16 and 19. At Arsenal you can say 20 and 21-year-olds are the experienced players.
“You are likely to see Gavin Hoyte, Abu Ogogu, Aaron Ramsey, Mark Randall, Jack Wilshere, Fran Merida and Carlos Vela. Maybe Bendtner will play. Song, Djourou and Lukasz Fabianski will be the experienced players. But you will have players like Emmanuel Frimpong and Jay Emmanuel-Thomas so it will be a very young side.”
Heard about this earlier today on SSN, could be a intresting CC this year.
RB14 ARSENAL
22-09-2008, 23:01
Cool, Jack Wilshere is a real talent so hopefully the Carling Cup is good opportunity for him to show off his qualitys, and improve as a player... I love how Arsene gives the young lads chances, must be a pleasure for young learning players to work under, it will be interesting to see these reserves in action; it's good to hear quite a few are homegrown and english :happy:
Sheffield United are no joke though; they will be fired up for it, I just hope our reserves can deliver the goods :D Will be a good rest for the first team if none of them have to be used (hopefully).
I just hope these players are really up to speed, and will certainly be interesting when we face a Premiership team in the CC, whether Arsene will risk it like he did last year in the latter rounds which cost us a potential cup. Nevertheless, looking forward to it.
Stella Artois
23-09-2008, 01:24
Embed my fucking arse.
Meyyappan
23-09-2008, 10:51
Wenger Tables £3 Million Bid for Unborn Foetus
Arsenal's previous recruitment of two youngsters provoked anger from respective clubs Barcelona and Cardiff, but the imminent signing of Juan is being completed without attention from any other football club because Juan is actually an unborn foetus.
The -4 month year old attracted Wenger's attention with his rhythmical stomach kicking and methodical thumping, and Wenger believes in time he will be the perfect solution to Arsenals annual striker crisis.
David Gill, Arsenal sporting director, is expected to arrive in Madrid this week to agree a compensation package of around £3 million after a Spanish civil court ruled in October that the younger forward would actually have to be born before he can sign a contract with a non-Spanish club.
Juan's father David Milla said that Arsenal were the only club truly interested in the foetus. "Juan is very strong physically and outstanding in and arouWengernd the placenta," Milla said. "He's also very comfortable (in the womb), with a good left foot. Juan's sale will fund another three kids and all of theireducational costs. That is if we decide to call him Juan, si?"
Juan, expected to grow to around 6ft 2in, will sign a professional contract with Arsenal when he is born in January.
His parents spent three days in London last week being shown around the training ground, the Emirates Stadium and the accommodation for the unborn players. They also spoke to Fàbregas and Arsène Wenger, the Arsenal manager, who convinced them that he had an opportunity to break into the first team within 18 years. They returned to Madrid last Thursday "dazzled" by the offer.
Juan came to prominence with impressive displays in the X-ray department of the maternity ward when scheduled against children from Barcelona, Valencia and Madrid, in the same hospital where Cesc Fabregas, Miguel Indurain, and Rafael Nadal were born.
Juan himself was unavailable for comment.
http://mingeford365.co.uk/wengernews.html
wrathchild_uk
23-09-2008, 12:59
:rolleyes: at title
ThierryHenry14
23-09-2008, 13:21
Wenger bought a baby :huh:
Dragonfly
23-09-2008, 13:52
I wonder how his stats will develop on PES.
wrathchild_uk
23-09-2008, 13:55
Eventually like Pele's in the classic Brazil team?
RB14 ARSENAL
23-09-2008, 15:51
Football365:- REVEALED: THE ARSENAL PLAN (http://msn.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_4183873,00.html?o cid=today)
RB14 ARSENAL
23-09-2008, 16:26
Works for me :erm:
Bammers05
23-09-2008, 17:21
I wonder how his stats will develop on PES.
:lol:
Meyyappan
23-09-2008, 19:06
It was dead and i put a stupid thing up and we have 7-8 posts.
Works for me :erm:
A motivational sheet handed out to Arsenal players ahead of their game with Bolton has been leaked.
While managers like Jose Mourinho and Sam Allardyce famously overload their players with details of opposition players and ProZone stats, this document is a simple A4 sheet of just 224 words.
The document was apparently drafted by a sports psychologist and was designed to motivate a team that had already played two difficult away games in the space of a few days.
Emphasis is firmly placed on the 'team' and advices the players to 'stay grounded and humble as a player and a person'.
The full advice is as follows...
CONFIDENTIAL
Team meeting 19th September 2008-09-22:
The team:
* A team is as strong as the relationships within it. The driving force of a team is its member's ability to create and maintain excellent relationships within the team that can add an extra dimension and robustness to the team dynamic.
* This attitude can be used by our team to focus on the gratitude and the vitally important benefits that the team brings to our own lives. It can be used to strengthen and deepen the relationships with it and maximise the opportunities that await a strong and united team.
Our team becomes stronger by:
* Displaying a positive attitude on and off the pitch
* Everyone making the right decisions for the team
* Have an unshakeable belief that we can achieve our target
* Believe in the strength of the team
* Always want more - always give more
* Focus on our communication
* Be demanding with yourself
* Be fresh and well prepared to win
* Focus on being mentally stronger and always keep going until the end
* When we play away from home, believe in our identity and play the football we love to play at home
* Stick together
* Stay grounded and humble as a player and a person
* Show the desire to win in all that you do
* Enjoy and contribute to all that is special about being in a team - don't take it for granted
That was what was in it.
Meyyappan
23-09-2008, 20:08
By Bob Wilson, fomer Arsenal goalkeeper
Last Updated: 1:23am GMT 30/10/2007
When I arrived at Arsenal 44 years ago, George Male and Bernard Joy, those great characters from a bygone age, would sit around and tell stories of the great sides and the great players of the past. One of their favourites was Alex James, the legendary Scottish forward from Herbert Chapman's day. "You'll never see a better little midfield player in your lifetime," they used to say. Well, I have, and his name is Cesc Fabregas.
Don Howe: Fabregas excels in Scholes role
I watched Arsenal's draw with Liverpool on Sunday on television in South Africa, where I'm on holiday. And even from this distance I could see how Cesc ran the game. I noticed at the final whistle that the cameras went straight to Steven Gerrard and Cesc, and there they were both moving towards each other: the handshake and the back-slap said an enormous amount. You could see the respect there was for each other. Cesc obviously admires Gerrard, and it became clear that the feeling was mutual.
The thing that impressed me most was the way Cesc continued to make things happen the longer the game went on; even if he was in a corner, he'd be demanding the ball from others. Even before the ball arrived at his feet he'd be looking where he was going to go, looking for the next pass, the next move.
I enjoyed the way Arsenal kept playing their football, getting that tightness back into their play, the pass and move, move and pass. And the conductor was Cesc Fabregas. You could see the disappointment when Eboue should have scored, but it didn't put Cesc off his stride and he continued to push the team on, and eventually he came up with the equaliser. It was an amazing ball from Alexander Hleb, and by taking it early Cesc caught Pepe Reina off balance.
It reminded me of what Arsene Wenger said three years ago when I was just finishing my time as goalkeeping coach with Arsenal. He told me: "I have seen the best 17-year-old player I've ever seen." Well, it was an extraordinary statement for Arsene to make. I remember saying: "But wasn't Pele the best 17-year-old?" "I am telling you about a player who plays in a different role to Pele; Pele was a striker, not a creator."
That young man was Cesc Fabregas, who had already arrived at Arsenal by then.
In those days Cesc lacked certain things – pace for one thing – but his short and long passing was exceptional. And the combativeness, that little bit of temper, that makes him like Patrick Vieira, was there from the start. He had an imagination, an appreciation of the game, that shocked everyone in such a young boy. What struck me was that he had a terrific humility about his ability: he was never boastful. There was enough in his game even then to make me compare him to the conductor in an orchestra.
Since then he has added what Arsene wanted him to do, and that's strength in the tackle and the ability to strike for goal. An all-round player was something we didn't really have at Arsenal before. But now we've got the midfield anchor, the player in the holding role, in Mathieu Flamini, who's in the mould of Claude Makelele of the present day or Norman Hunter, Nobby Stiles, or former Arsenal man Peter Storey, and that allows Cesc the freedom to go out and play.
I know he's on a long, long contract, but I hope he's never lured away by the likes of Barcelona or Real Madrid, back to his homeland. I know that when he was thinking about a captain to replace Thierry Henry, Arsene went through the names of Gilberto, Kolo Toure and William Gallas, who he eventually settled on. But Cesc was also in the frame, and he will remain in the frame for as long as both he and Arsene are at the club. He has such maturity.
When I look back at the great midfield players I've had the pleasure to watch and play with at Arsenal, I'd pick out George Eastham, Alan Ball – neither of whom we saw at their best at Highbury – Liam Brady, David Rocastle and Michael Thomas as a pair, and Emmanuel Petit and Patrick Vieira – who we did. Cesc continues the line through my five decades-long association with Arsenal.
Now I wouldn't call Dennis Bergkamp a midfield player, and like Cesc he could probably have done with an extra half-yard of pace. But there is a saying in football about the first yard being in the head, and that is what great players like Dennis and Cesc have.
To compile an identikit picture, I'd say Cesc has Dennis's brain, the combativeness and touch of Patrick Vieira, the marauding spirit of Rocastle and Thomas, and the magic wand of Liam Brady's left foot, only in his right boot. I can't praise him enough; he's up there with the best of them.
Huge praise for Cesc if it came from the mouth of Arsene Wenger.
ThierryHenry14
23-09-2008, 21:05
5-0 so far.
wrigh2uk
23-09-2008, 21:11
I seriously did not expect the score to be anyway near that and still considerable time left!!!!!!
5-0 so far.Thats a big score for the young lads.
Rossy Boy
23-09-2008, 21:33
6-0 Impressive any chance to get highlights anywhere?
mufcsean
23-09-2008, 22:49
try 101greatgoals
Cannon ball
23-09-2008, 22:53
6-0, amazing when you consider the team, and who you were playing against. If any other top 4 team tried doing that, I doubt they would even win.
mufcsean
23-09-2008, 22:57
6-0, amazing when you consider the team, and who you were playing against. If any other top 4 team tried doing that, I doubt they would even win.
Quoted in agreement, absolutely spot on.
Stella Artois
24-09-2008, 02:55
Goals on footytube.com.
pistolpete
24-09-2008, 07:23
Absolutely great performance, especially 3 stunning finishes by Vela, maybe adebayor could watch him in training for some finishing tips!
Hopefully he will get a chance in the first team soon.
RB14 ARSENAL
24-09-2008, 08:20
Just seen the goals.. what a hat trick from Vela :w00t He looks awesome, about time Arsene gave him a start in the League to show what he can do? That dink over Kenny (2nd goal) was sublime. Great result for Arsenal. Not bad to say Arsene fielded side of juniors :D Average age of 19, future looks bright for Arsenal :happy:
Dragonfly
24-09-2008, 11:36
Vela's second was awesome.
AgentZero
24-09-2008, 12:46
I seriously envy Arsene's scouting networks.
Vela's another rising star very soon.
pistolpete
24-09-2008, 18:34
I know its only clips and anyone can look good in just clips but even from this footage you can see Vela's class.
http://www.fliggo.com/video/olTKfNhB
His dummy for the 1st chance, his link play for Bendtners 1st goal.
The first touch and the finish for his 1st goal are Henryesque. His 2nd goal speaks for itself.
He has a big future.
Dragonfly
24-09-2008, 18:46
Ramsey looked pretty good too.
Meyyappan
24-09-2008, 18:48
I seriously envy Arsene's scouting networks.
You mean you seriously envy our Arsene Wenger as he was the one who built our scouting network and was spotting talent way before it.I said that because the way you said it,it meant as if it was only the scouting network responsible.
Nice little back heel there
DanDaMan91
24-09-2008, 19:08
That's why we don't need to spend 30m, because we have talent like that coming through.
Vela is 19, by next season he could potentially be first team if he keeps progressing well. Bendtner was fantastic. Ramsey could easily partner Fabregas with yesterdays performance.
Jack Wilshere - 16, I don't even need to say anything else.
Dragonfly
24-09-2008, 20:49
An Irish man called me a few minutes ago offering to sign me up to the Arsenal MasterCard. It sounded genuine and like a pretty sweet deal, but I already have one MasterCard, so wasn't interested. Has anyone else been cold called?
ThierryHenry14
24-09-2008, 21:10
It was probably Cookie :ninja:
DanDaMan91
24-09-2008, 21:54
An Irish man called me a few minutes ago offering to sign me up to the Arsenal MasterCard. It sounded genuine and like a pretty sweet deal, but I already have one MasterCard, so wasn't interested. Has anyone else been cold called?
That was the fonejacker..... he's and Arsenal fan.
Vela warns emerging talent
Teenager remaining level-headed despite dazzling display
Carlos Vela has warned Arsenal's talented youngsters that there are no guarantees they will succeed at Emirates Stadium.
Gunners boss Arsene Wenger fielded the club's youngest ever side on Tuesday - with an average age of 19 - as they brushed Sheffield United aside with a 6-0 win in the third round of the Carling Cup.
Mexican forward Vela, who is making his debut season in North London, was impressive on the night and struck an eye-catching hat-trick.
Arsenal's emerging talent has since been hailed in the press, but Vela is remaining grounded.
He said in The Sun: "All of the players looked as though they have a great future here, but none of us can be certain of that.
"Some will make it with Arsenal but we all know that others won't."
Of his three separate loan spells in Spain, Vela added in the Daily Star: "It was good to go out on loan because I know I'm still young.
"It helped develop and improve my football. I believe I am ready and Arsene Wenger brought me back because he believes I am ready.
"But I just need to be calm and consistent and get into the first team."
Sky Sports
Wenger - I'll nurture Wilshere
Gunners boss to be patient with teenager's talent
Arsene Wenger believes Jack Wilshere has the potential to be an Arsenal star, but is wary of putting too much pressure on the teenager.
Wilshere scored his first senior goal on Tuesday evening as a young Gunners side - with an average age of just 19 - defeated Sheffield United 6-0 in the Carling Cup third round.
Wenger admits the 16-year-old has all the components to be a first-class player but has stressed the need to be patient with his talent.
"He is a quiet boy, very determined and focused. For the rest, the talent is there. You have seen that again," said the Frenchman.
"When you are a manager of a boy like that who has the talent, you are always cautious to put too much pressure on him and too high a level of expectation.
Responsibility
"I believe it is all in there, but also that I have a responsibility to nurture him and get him in the right development over the next two or three years, that will be vital.
"From 16 to 19 is a very important age for the development of a football player - and Jack has skipped a few classes!"
Wenger added: "People tell me he is a bit like (former Arsenal midfielder) Liam Brady [now head of youth development and academy director at the club], because he has good balance and change of direction.
"I believe later (in his career) he will be a central midfielder or behind the strikers."
Sky Sports
pistolpete
25-09-2008, 21:50
An Irish man called me a few minutes ago offering to sign me up to the Arsenal MasterCard. It sounded genuine and like a pretty sweet deal, but I already have one MasterCard, so wasn't interested. Has anyone else been cold called?
I got a cold call from a scottish girl.
Its a pretty average card, normal rates but i couldnt resist something Arsenal. Took one out.
Phil W.A.F.C
27-09-2008, 12:31
Time for them kids to have a big challenge, if you play them kids i think you will go out.
CaptainCabinet
27-09-2008, 12:42
I actually love you Phillip.
Phil W.A.F.C
27-09-2008, 12:47
You probably all think im fucking stupid including you cabinet but dont forget the first team is yet to win anything never mind the 'kids'.
I.N Extasy
27-09-2008, 12:51
I actually love you Phillip.
This is painful to assimilate. :crymore: I thought I was the only one! :crymore:
CaptainCabinet
27-09-2008, 12:54
You probably all think im fucking stupid including you cabinet but dont forget the first team is yet to win anything never mind the 'kids'.
True, however the first team are on a level just below the league leaders. The youngsters are only slightly below that, something you've clearly forgotten.
Two seasons ago Wenger did this and got to the final, only to lose to a full strength Chelsea team. Last year he did the same, only to be beaten by the eventual winners.
Unless both teams have polar opposite days, I can only see this going one way.
Phil W.A.F.C
27-09-2008, 13:01
True, however the first team are on a level just below the league leaders. The youngsters are only slightly below that, something you've clearly forgotten.
Two seasons ago Wenger did this and got to the final, only to lose to a full strength Chelsea team. Last year he did the same, only to be beaten by the eventual winners.
Unless both teams have polar opposite days, I can only see this going one way.
Yeah im not taking away that Arsenal are a really good team and probably are the best footballing side in England if not Europe but they played Sheffield United for fuck sake, there shit.
We beat Arsenal en route to our only Carling Cup final apearance in our first season in the semi's and im really confident depending on what team Wenger plays. If he plays the same team he played against Sheffield United then my moneys on Wigan.
I.N Extasy
27-09-2008, 13:01
True, however the first team are on a level just below the league leaders. The youngsters are only slightly below that, something you've clearly forgotten.
Two seasons ago Wenger did this and got to the final, only to lose to a full strength Chelsea team. Last year he did the same, only to be beaten by the eventual winners.
Unless both teams have polar opposite days, I can only see this going one way.
I too, think this Arsenal side can achieve a lot. Despite losing two good players in Flamini and Hleb, the team has matured a lot and the players have developed a better understanding between themselves.
Viperized
27-09-2008, 15:46
Yeah im not taking away that Arsenal are a really good team and probably are the best footballing side in England if not Europe but they played Sheffield United for fuck sake, there shit.
We beat Arsenal en route to our only Carling Cup final apearance in our first season in the semi's and im really confident depending on what team Wenger plays. If he plays the same team he played against Sheffield United then my moneys on Wigan.
I'm pretty happy with the draw. I think we can win this one.
Also, it's a home game. That will swing the tie in our favour.
mufcsean
27-09-2008, 15:48
I'm pretty happy with the draw. I think we can win this one.
Also, it's a home game. That will swing the tie in our favour.
Who are you and what have you done with the real Viperized
RB14 ARSENAL
27-09-2008, 16:02
When we meet Wigan in the Carling Cup, it will be interesting whether Arsene stays with the same squad who played versus Sheffield United. He should definately play most of the squad throughout the competition, as they played terrific against the Blades, however a couple of those 16 year old's may have to make way for more experienced members, if we want to make sure we progress far in the tournament.
The Carling Cup may be portrayed as the 'Mickey Mouse Cup' but we should try to win it this year; it's a trophy under our name at the end of the day.
I would love to see Arsenal bag the Domestic Double this year, I genuinely feel they can do it. It's about time Arsene Wenger was rewarded for keeping his faith in the youngsters and playing them in the Carling Cup, and this reward hopefully is some trophies at the end of the season.
RB14 ARSENAL
27-09-2008, 17:18
Arsenal:
01 Almunia
03 Sagna
05 Toure
10 Gallas
22 Clichy
27 Eboue
04 Fabregas
15 Denilson
14 Walcott
25 Adebayor
11 Van Persie
Substitutes
21 Fabianski, 12 Vela, 16 Ramsey, 17 Song Billong, 18 Silvestre, 20 Djourou, 26 Bendtner
Hull:
01 Myhill
17 McShane
24 Zayatte
06 Turner
03 Dawson
22 Marney
20 Boateng
10 Geovanni
04 Ashbee
25 Cousin
23 King
Substitutes
12 Duke, 11 Hughes, 14 Garcia, 15 Mendy, 16 Halmosi, 18 Folan, 21 Ricketts
Dragonfly
27-09-2008, 18:42
Fabregas' hair. :no:
Dragonfly
27-09-2008, 18:55
Croiky!
That was sexy I must say. He learnt that at Barça, obviously.
Dragonfly
27-09-2008, 19:02
He actually learnt that at Cruzeiro, lost it at Barcelona and Man City, and found it at Hull.
So, 25mins of us playing against a wall.
ThierryHenry14
27-09-2008, 19:03
WTFFFFFFFFFF 2-1 to Hull
mufcsean
27-09-2008, 19:04
:huh: Unbelievable
This'll make our result against Stoke look good.
freestyleh7
27-09-2008, 19:18
Whats going on ! how can we be losing ?
ThierryHenry14
27-09-2008, 19:19
Mabye we should've played our Carling Cup squad.
CaptainCabinet
27-09-2008, 19:22
Whats going on ! how can we be losing ?
It's quite simple.
The aim of football is to out score your opponent in "goals". Meaning, if they score two, you have to score three to win. If you score/d 2, you would have a result known as a draw. However, if you only score 1, you will "lose".
This is going to be some result for Hull...
Dragonfly
27-09-2008, 19:25
How are points allocated, CC?
freestyleh7
27-09-2008, 19:26
It's quite simple.
The aim of football is to out score your opponent in "goals". Meaning, if they score two, you have to score three to win. If you score/d 2, you would have a result known as a draw. However, if you only score 1, you will "lose".
Oh really i didnt know that, no wonder why we are losing then.
Zoolander
27-09-2008, 19:27
Holy shit. I thought Hull were at home.
http://i37.tinypic.com/2dtndjk.gif
I can't believe this shit.
19 results I betted on, I got 18 right and needed you cunts to win and I'd get £109,000.
Fuck sake.
Zoolander
27-09-2008, 19:29
Unlucky cadey it's always the supposed bankers that fuck you over on football bets.
freestyleh7
27-09-2008, 19:30
I'm very upset now.
Dragonfly
27-09-2008, 19:30
I can't believe it, but Hull played well and we couldn't get the second. We should've won, but just didn't take our chances.
ThierryHenry14
27-09-2008, 19:34
Biggest load of bull I've seen.
Unlucky cadey it's always the supposed bankers that fuck you over on football bets.
Fucking too right.
When Liverpool drew with Stoke last week, I missed out on £87,000.
I await Viperized's review of the game.
Positive I'm sure.
How comes Mayyappan hasn't posted about how they will win the league and all his usual garbage?
I guess the post if you are on top of the league thread is going to be pretty empty this week.
Dragonfly
27-09-2008, 20:17
I await Viperized's review of the game.
Positive I'm sure.
Haha. I was thinking the same thing. His praises are usually short, but his criticisms are lanky.
Viperized
27-09-2008, 21:08
http://i30.tinypic.com/34g7eon.gif
Shocking. Is this the same team that got thrashed 5-0 by Wigan? How embarrassing.
But in all honestly, despite having the easiest set of starting fixtures compared with the Top 4, being 2 points behind the league leaders isn't so bad...
or is it?
Dundon's
27-09-2008, 21:47
Devastated.
Phil W.A.F.C
27-09-2008, 22:10
Laugh Out Loud at Arsenal :lmao:.
Phil W.A.F.C
27-09-2008, 22:16
Get lost cunt.
Cheer up mate :lmao:. Quality result!
Ahhh fair enough Hull won wtf
Phil W.A.F.C
27-09-2008, 22:20
Fucking boo's? Arsenal dont deserve to watch such great football. Absolute shocking, just as bad as Newcastle.
Why you being little bitch now
Zoolander
27-09-2008, 22:23
DJ Clue don't take the bait.
Phil W.A.F.C
27-09-2008, 22:25
Why you being little bitch now
It's shocking though mate, how can you boo after one loss that wont even rock the players confidence?
Phil W.A.F.C
27-09-2008, 22:31
when did i boo bro
I'm not on about you in particular, I'v just seen the Arsenal game on Match Of The Day, the Arsenal fans booed a the end of the game. I'm asking is it needed?
Dragonfly
27-09-2008, 22:34
I was disappointed that the fans booed at the end.
Yeah that was total rubbish.
We lost, we lost.
ThierryHenry14
27-09-2008, 22:47
Laugh Out Loud at Arsenal :lmao:.
http://www.panoriental.com/Images/clapping.gif
Viperized
27-09-2008, 23:35
It's shocking though mate, how can you boo after one loss that wont even rock the players confidence?
They get paid £50k a week.
What has money got to do with confidence?
Phil W.A.F.C
27-09-2008, 23:38
They get paid £50k a week.
So becuase you lose one game to a smaller team they deserved to get booed? I really do disagree with you.
RB14 ARSENAL
27-09-2008, 23:43
:realmad: Not taking anything away from Hull as they played brilliantly; but we should've cruised through today and won by a high margin. The amount of chances we had was outrageous and once again we tried to walk the ball into the net, it is breathtaking football when it works but when it doesn't, you're in trouble. The players should shoot more often imo and not play too many passes in the box, it's as if they are scared of the ball and need to lay it off to someone else nearby rather than shooting themself and hitting the target.
Arsenal may keep a huge majority of the ball possesion during their games, but it's the goals that count at the end of the day.
Well played Hull.
Viperized
27-09-2008, 23:54
So becuase you lose one game to a smaller team they deserved to get booed? I really do disagree with you.
Who said I agreed with the booing?
Viperized
27-09-2008, 23:54
What has money got to do with confidence?
Everything.
Phil W.A.F.C
28-09-2008, 00:01
Who said I agreed with the booing?
You, you said there on £50k a week when i posted about the booing from the Arsenal fans.
Viperized
28-09-2008, 00:05
I think you should pay a visit to Specsavers.
Phil W.A.F.C
28-09-2008, 00:13
I think you should pay a visit to Specsavers.
Anyway you edited your post by making my post into bold, what has confidence got to do with money and vice versa?
Fucking boo's? Arsenal dont deserve to watch such great football. Absolute shocking, just as bad as Newcastle.Haha you haven't a clue man.
AgentZero
28-09-2008, 09:42
geovanni goal was sublime.
Phil W.A.F.C
28-09-2008, 10:08
Haha you haven't a clue man.
Course i have a clue, soon as you have a bad game your all calling for the managers head. Oh, unless it was that stupid grey hair basterd, Keegen.
Course i have a clue, soon as you have a bad game your all calling for the managers head. Oh, unless it was that stupid grey hair basterd, Keegen.
Philip, behave.
Course i have a clue, soon as you have a bad game your all calling for the managers head. Oh, unless it was that stupid grey hair basterd, Keegen.Haha what a wank. The only protests that have been going on have been centered around the mis-management of the club from board room level, the players are aware of this, the fans are aware of this. The atmosphere yesterday was absolutely rocking in the 2nd half. The fact that you have called Keegan a "basterd" shows quite a lot about yourself. Especially when you have that wanker Steve Bruce in charge of your own club. Who as a footballing man is not a patch on Kevin Keegan.
RB14 ARSENAL
28-09-2008, 10:57
Well said Jonny, I really don't understand how anybody could call him a "basterd". Kevin Keegan is a legend. Simple as that.
Sorry for hi-jacking your thread btw lads.
Bit of a shocking result yesterday like, was it a case of yous battering them as you have been known to do in the past and just not being able to make all of that count or was it just an off day?
RB14 ARSENAL
28-09-2008, 11:14
We tried to walk the ball into the net like we do occasionally against teams, and we under-estimated Hull City and paid the price. Hull played terrific and they took their chances unlike us. Our goal was courtesy of a Paul McShane own-goal. Enough said really. The players need to try and shoot more often. You don't win games by keeping the ball and passing it over and over again, it's the scoreline that counts at the end of the day. And we didn't take our chances. I would rather see us win ugly, than lose pretty. To be fair, if we want to be challenging for the title then we need to be winning these games especially home games.
We deserved to lose. Hull deserved to win in the end. What a goal by Geovanni, by the way.
Viperized
28-09-2008, 11:42
Sorry for hi-jacking your thread btw lads.
Bit of a shocking result yesterday like, was it a case of yous battering them as you have been known to do in the past and just not being able to make all of that count or was it just an off day?
It was a case of trying to walk the ball in the net, wasting many chances (Adebayor... RvP etc) and passing the ball sideways, as opposed to passing forwards.
It isn't about playing ugly which RB14 is certain it's going to help us win. It's about being more direct. Arsenal play at a very slow tempo when in possession. This wasn't the case four years ago and we were a better team.
One example is our performance against Bolton. When we upped the tempo, Bolton were ripped apart. But then again, we also had a slightly better midfield on.
I also believe Van Persie and Adebayor simply do NOT work together. Adebayor thinks he is Thierry Henry and I don't think Van Persie should go so deep. Last season he showed why he shouldn't play the Bergkamp role - he is a better goalscorer.
freestyleh7
28-09-2008, 11:48
Hope arsene gets the arsenal players heads up for the next game, even though i'm not very happy with the result, i'm glad it was against hull instead of west ham tottenham hotspur & newcastle to be honest.
mufcsean
28-09-2008, 12:24
Geovanni's goal was excellent, Cousins header was a bit easy though mind, who was supposed to be marking him?
Meyyappan
28-09-2008, 15:09
I think Arsene should resign Henry as 'back up". Its a fact he will score when others are having an off day, probably get him back for 10 mill or less. this would be effective back up for a couple of years...and allow Eduardo extra recovery time (will not play again until february/march). Henrys heart is in London and he would likely make a top class Arsenal manager in the future. I get the feeling, at the age of 31, he would settle for a "bit part playing" at the emirates.
He would be excellent coming from the bench like in yesterdays match could end up being our soalksjaer.............
Gunners respond this is a serious article.
ThierryHenry14
28-09-2008, 15:11
So the 1st half made a bit of sense, but I didn't get the 2nd half of that well constructed post.
Meyyappan
28-09-2008, 15:15
Just forget my response to manu fc sean wait i will delete it.
We tried to walk the ball into the net like we do occasionally against teams, and we under-estimated Hull City and paid the price. Hull played terrific and they took their chances unlike us. Our goal was courtesy of a Paul McShane own-goal. Enough said really. The players need to try and shoot more often. You don't win games by keeping the ball and passing it over and over again, it's the scoreline that counts at the end of the day. And we didn't take our chances. I would rather see us win ugly, than lose pretty. To be fair, if we want to be challenging for the title then we need to be winning these games especially home games.
We deserved to lose. Hull deserved to win in the end. What a goal by Geovanni, by the way.
Well said and i agree what he said.
mufcsean
28-09-2008, 18:45
I think Arsene should resign Henry as 'back up". Its a fact he will score when others are having an off day, probably get him back for 10 mill or less. this would be effective back up for a couple of years...and allow Eduardo extra recovery time (will not play again until february/march). Henrys heart is in London and he would likely make a top class Arsenal manager in the future. I get the feeling, at the age of 31, he would settle for a "bit part playing" at the emirates.
He would be excellent coming from the bench like in yesterdays match could end up being our soalksjaer.............
Ferdinand
Gunners respond this is a serious article.
What?
Meyyappan
28-09-2008, 19:26
What?
Your favourite defender's favourite defender frankly mate i dont know i vaguely remeber it was was erm gallas.
Your favourite defender's favourite defender frankly mate i dont know i vaguely remeber it was was erm gallas.
I've read this thing three times now. I am none the wiser.
I've read this thing three times now. I am none the wiser.:lol:
Bammers05
28-09-2008, 22:06
Your favourite defender's favourite defender frankly mate i dont know i vaguely remeber it was was erm gallas.
Congratulations, you've made it onto my Ignore list.
You must be very proud.
somegooner
28-09-2008, 22:42
Your favourite defender's favourite defender frankly mate i dont know i vaguely remeber it was was erm gallas.
I don't get it.
ThierryHenry14
28-09-2008, 22:50
No one does, I bet even s/he doesnt.
Dundon's
29-09-2008, 15:23
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger concedes Saturday's defeat to Hull City left him feeling 'physically sick', as he prepares to wield the axe for midweek UEFA Champions League exertions.
Premier League new boys Hull recorded one of the biggest shocks in Premier League history when they came away from the Emirates Stadium with all three points.
While Hull were deservedly praised for what was a skilled and combative display, the performance of Arsenal has come in for widespread criticism.
No more so than from Wenger, who was left livid at the final whistle over what he perceived to be an unacceptable display from his players.
The Gunners entertain Porto in the capital on Tuesday night and those that failed to deliver at the weekend can expect to be sat with Wenger on the bench.
Changes imminent
"There were enough ingredients to make me physically sick," he is quoted in The Sun.
"What we delivered was not good enough and we all know that. There will certainly be changes for Tuesday.
"When you have an opportunity to go top of the Premier League, the very least expected is that you have the correct level of intensity in your concentration right from the start.
"I would say the electric level in our head was not high enough.
"What was most disappointing is that we struggled to score in the first half, finally went 1-0 up, yet still lost the game.
"That is where we were guilty. We worked so hard to get ahead and then we let it go again."
I felt for the man after the game myself, it was a big boo boo on the players behalves not taking down them 3 points, 3 points will make a massive difference on the final standings.
RB14 ARSENAL
29-09-2008, 15:37
Yeah, he does right thing dropping players he feels don't deserve to start, when we play Porto. The players left out should then realise their place in the starting line-up isn't safe completely, and hopefully the players pull their socks up and show the manager & fans what they can do.
I feel this decision from Arsene could really pay off, the players must give their everything for the team and show the manager they really want to play. If they don't then, then they can get out and rot on the sidelines. Play the people who will give 100% every game, and win these matches. Every point lost really makes a difference (like Dragonfly said) and to be fair home games against Hull have to be must-win's if we seriously want to challenge for the title. I'm not taking anything away from Hull, they played brilliant. It was careless and the performance simply wasn't good enough.
Hopefully in midweek when we play Porto, the players will give the fan's something to cheer about, and show they are determined to bounce back from this loss. Porto are a good team mind, should be a close game.
Meyyappan
29-09-2008, 18:44
I think Arsene should resign Henry as 'back up". Its a fact he will score when others are having an off day, probably get him back for 10 mill or less. this would be effective back up for a couple of years...and allow Eduardo extra recovery time (will not play again until february/march). Henrys heart is in London and he would likely make a top class Arsenal manager in the future. I get the feeling, at the age of 31, he would settle for a "bit part playing" at the emirates.
He would be excellent coming from the bench like in yesterdays match could end up being our soalksjaer.............
Gunners respond this is a serious article.
.
No one gave a shit before and no one gives a shit now.
vanNistelrooy
29-09-2008, 20:34
I felt for the man after the game myself, it was a big boo boo on the players behalves not taking down them 3 points, 3 points will make a massive difference on the final standings.
Too true, and that's the way you should all look at it. It could be what decides who finishes 3rd out of you lot and Liverpool ;)
Nifty1Pound50
29-09-2008, 21:47
Gunners respond this is a serious article.
I think you're a serious article.
It doesn't matter if we play a pub side...they might still have a chance of winning if we don't come up with the Plan B of getting the ball into the net!! We lack some simple set pieces, corner set pieces, etc - we had so many corners...and just ONE on target, Gallas' header onto the post!! VP needs to give up some of the free kicks, and perhaps we need a different corner taker than Cesc...the balls just don't get past the first defender!
I respect how we play, the intuitive, attacking, technical football, but hardworking teams like Hull always have a chance if we don't convert chances, if we dont' pressure or BELIEVE we can score from corners and free kicks. I bet your boots tremble against C Ronaldo on a free kick...do they when you see VP stepping up?!?! Nadda...
What amazes me is that all the Arsenal fans and players are going into crisis mode for one game after playing so well in three straight away games. In the game against Hull, it just wasn't your day. Really it happens sometimes(please no Liverpool jokes.) I think when you get players like Rosicky and Eduardo back, players that give Wenger an option, you will starting hitting your stride. But yeah, I feel sorry for Porto who are more than likely going to feel the wrath of an angry Arsenal side.
wrigh2uk
30-09-2008, 21:43
Meh thats why I never even responded about the Hull game, even the people at work taking the piss on monday I just brushed it off. Bad day at the office and EVERYONE knew. Tonights performance was exactly what I expected, everyone just put in that extra 70% that was missing on saturday. Nasri coming back helped alot
mufcsean
30-09-2008, 21:52
Brilliant goals, especially van Persies 2nd, could have been about 7 aswell :shocking:
wrigh2uk
30-09-2008, 21:55
^^^ Adebayor for you
mufcsean
30-09-2008, 21:58
What?
Guillermo
30-09-2008, 22:04
What?
As in "that's typical of Adebayor".
RB14 ARSENAL
30-09-2008, 23:05
A great win tonight, the boys showed what they can do when they put the effort in; Theo was terrific down the right side supplying the balls. He has improved his cross a lot and is certainly keen to play well for the team and impressed Capello in the stands. Nice to see Van Persie and Adebayor get a brace each, they got a lot of criticism at the weekend so it was important to shut the critics up and impress tonight; and that's what they did. Both of their goals were well taken and well constructed by the team. To be fair, they could've got a couple more goals each but it wasn't to be.
Hopefully this is the start of a good run of form for Arsenal, and what a way to put a loss behind you than to beat the best team in Portugal 4-0 with ease.
Good show from the lads, great win.
Dundon's
01-10-2008, 01:09
Too true, and that's the way you should all look at it. It could be what decides who finishes 3rd out of you lot and Liverpool ;)
Mybe, I'm just hoping this season is one where it doesn't take an abnormal amount of points to win it, the last few seasons it was particularly high.
On the other hand I'm delight to have 4 points at this stage in the CL, solid performance and a good comeback game to build up speed for the weekend.
Meyyappan
01-10-2008, 10:43
Too true, and that's the way you should all look at it. It could be what decides who finishes 3rd out of you lot and Liverpool ;)
Or more likely who wins the title out of us and chelsea.
vanNistelrooy
02-10-2008, 17:22
Or more likely who wins the title out of us and chelsea.
You, and Chelsea, and Hull.
Meyyappan
03-10-2008, 06:51
You, and Chelsea, and Hull.
Yes hull and you guys for the relegation fight most certainly.:happy:
ThierryHenry14
04-10-2008, 16:45
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooo
FFS, this is a disester.
:(
Mullet Taylor
04-10-2008, 16:51
lmao oh dear
ThierryHenry14
04-10-2008, 16:52
Super Super Fab!!!
Viperized
04-10-2008, 16:55
We should've started Nasri and we should've started Denilson alongside Cesc, not Song.
And by playing like this we obviously won't win the title. The opposition are gaining a quick advantage over us while we are trailing behind.
We had a great opportunity to gain all three points after a 4-0 win over Porto, but we wasted it.
We are so inconsistent. We'll probably win our next game, then after that, draw one, then win one, then lose one.
RB14 ARSENAL
04-10-2008, 17:11
I was hoping for a easy and convincing Arsenal win so on Adidas Live Season (Fifa 09), their stats would shoot back up.
But it looks like they won't be :no::(
Just typical: they beat Porto 4-0, but can't beat Sunderland :realmad::no:
Guillermo
04-10-2008, 17:16
I'd like to hear Meyyappan's take on that championship winning performance.
Dundon's
04-10-2008, 17:37
Ade is starting to wind me up big time, there's just no urgency about him what so ever and he wastes so many chances in the early stages of games that other players like Eddie and Vela would take.
I'm just delighted to get something out of the game, another defeat to a wonder goal would of broke me in half.
I was hoping for a easy and convincing Arsenal win so on Adidas Live Season (Fifa 09), their stats would shoot back up.
But it looks like they won't be :no::(
Just typical: they beat Porto 4-0, but can't beat Sunderland :realmad::no:I know poor show and what is Ady up to so many chances :ohmy:
Meyyappan
04-10-2008, 17:47
Well if Manu just win their next match i would be deeply dissapointed dont mind luck and all its just that they are able to do it and we are not.I will come and comment on our title chances after the game.
Viperized
04-10-2008, 18:37
Ade is starting to wind me up big time, there's just no urgency about him what so ever and he wastes so many chances in the early stages of games that other players like Eddie and Vela would take.
I'm just delighted to get something out of the game, another defeat to a wonder goal would of broke me in half.
It's because he is a poor finisher who was lucky to score 30 goals last season.
Sad, but true.
Fabregas saves you lot! Lucky this time escaping with a point. :erm:
Meyyappan
04-10-2008, 20:01
Well today luck did play a factor,the walcott one has proven to be legal after t.v replays and if manu's first goal was disallowed rightly we might be looking at different things...................
Man u took some games to get in their stride winning lots of games 1-0s before hitting their peak.
Today luck did play a factor but it wont be the same everyday............
Our team are capable of doing it as they showed last year we may have lost hleb but he has already been replaced its the dmf position that concerns me.
From now on wenger shall do the necessary things switching in bendtner for ade
getting vela bit more earlier if things are not working bring the team back to rude reality with rosicky and dud returning it is a boost for us.
Hopefully for once we peak late and win it.
It's because he is a poor finisher who was lucky to score 30 goals last season.
Sad, but true.
Lucky? :fplm:
dotty_84
04-10-2008, 22:37
"goalkick, goalkick, goalkick, goalkick won't count because it was a goal kick."
Pearce you fanny
I.N Extasy
05-10-2008, 05:16
I'd like to hear Meyyappan's take on that championship winning performance.
Andy, come quick!
:w00t
Well today luck did play a factor,the walcott one has proven to be legal after t.v replays and if manu's first goal was disallowed rightly we might be looking at different things...................
Man u took some games to get in their stride winning lots of games 1-0s before hitting their peak.
Wenger era:Witnessed some top top football which made me chose them over manu and pool.
You're just bitter. :lol:
:rolleyes:
Meyyappan
05-10-2008, 08:53
Andy, come quick!
:w00t
You're just bitter. :lol:
:rolleyes:
Rather the truth as we were disallowed a perfectly legimate goal while you got one for wrestling the keeper..........
The problem with wenger is that he does not complain for every little thing like alex does it would put more pressure in refs and thus will get more decisions his way.
Unlike alex his first priority is the team's performance unlike saf who goes on dodgy decision showing a lack of class but i wish AW would do it as well if it means us having a better season.
mufcsean
05-10-2008, 11:12
Rather the truth as we were disallowed a perfectly legimate goal while you got one for wrestling the keeper..........
The problem with wenger is that he does not complain for every little thing like alex does it would put more pressure in refs and thus will get more decisions his way.
Unlike alex his first priority is the team's performance unlike saf who goes on dodgy decision showing a lack of class but i wish AW would do it as well if it means us having a better season.
There are so many things wrong with that post that i don't know where to begin, i will just say that i think your opinion is ludicrous at best and it wouldn't surprise me if that wasn't your opinion at all, most likely cut from an other site as you went from being a childish moron to an opinionated childish moron rather fast.
DanDaMan91
05-10-2008, 13:22
We can have no excuses. WE WERE POOR!
Why Wenger stuck RVP on the left wing I have no idea.
RVP was our best player against Porto... why move him to an area where he is ineffective.
--
I think it's about time Denilson took a seat on the bench... IMO he's a super-sub atm not first team.
PS: Theo kept the ball in... fucked over.
It was incredibly difficult to see, especially for the linesman. To be fair, when they analyzed it, it was only in by the slightest of margins. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't.
pistolpete
05-10-2008, 13:51
It's because he is a poor finisher who was lucky to score 30 goals last season.
Sad, but true.
I actually agree.
20% of his goals were against Derby. He didnt score his 1st champions lge goal until AC MIlan Away. Add to that 7 or 8 penalties, every one low to the right - any keeper who does his homework will save it.
Im getting fed up with him leading the line, if he is the 1 up front, why does he ponce around on the left wing.
I thought he was poor against Porto, always breaking the play down with poor touches and needlessly offside. Anyone see Andy Townsend pick his game apart?
Also FANTASY PREMIER LEAGUE GAVE HIM 3 BONUS POINTS FOR YESTERDAY!!
That little chip pass from Bendtner to Van Persie yesterday was beautiful.
Dundon's
05-10-2008, 21:42
It was incredibly difficult to see, especially for the linesman. To be fair, when they analyzed it, it was only in by the slightest of margins. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't.
We never get lucky.
ThierryHenry14
05-10-2008, 22:01
Didn't Wenger say like last season or the season before that the refeeres were against us or something?
You've had your fair share of favorable decisions over the years.
wrigh2uk
05-10-2008, 22:42
Didn't Wenger say like last season or the season before that the refeeres were against us or something?
Yawn, end of the day decisions go our way and they don't.
Bammers05
06-10-2008, 17:16
Yawn, end of the day decisions go our way and they don't.
Quoted in agreement.
Lately, quite a few decisions have gone against us which is unfortunate, but I'm sure that they will/have been evened out in the future/past.
DanDaMan91
06-10-2008, 18:05
My friend at college said because we only managed to draw at Sunderland we wont make 4th. I was laughing so hard.
But anyway... normally decisions balance themselves out. Hopefully that happens when we need it most.
Hopefully we can get back in form after the World Qualifers.
RB14 ARSENAL
06-10-2008, 21:08
Hopefully we can get back in form after the World Qualifers.
Yeah, and hopefully none of our squad gets injured while playing for country :no:
That would be typical.
Dundon's
07-10-2008, 15:00
It's going to be hard keeping the pace with the front runners this season, I just hope the damage isn't done already.
Fabregas admits Barca 'dream'
Arsenal star yearns to return to Catalunya
Cesc Fabregas has told Spanish radio that he will assess his future at the end of the season.
The Spanish star has also admitted that a return to Barcelona would be a 'dream come true'.
Fabregas admitted he opted to stay at Emirates over the summer following his success at Euro 2008 with Spain.
The midfield schemer claims he stayed for the sole reason to try and win trophies at Arsenal, as so far during his five-year Gunners career he has picked up just one medal after lifting the FA Cup in 2005.
Now he is determined to pick up some silverware this term, but admits he will then look at his options.
"Right now I'm fine at Arsenal but I cannot deny that to return and play for Barca would be a dream come true," he told Catalan based station RAC 1.
"I chose to stay at the club last summer and right now I'm totally focused on the reason for that decision which was to try and win trophies.
"We'll see how things have gone by the end of the season.
"The fact is that Barca are playing cinematic football right now and it's fantastic to see that the other day when they beat Atletico Madrid 6-1 they had seven or eight guys who, like me, came through the club's youth system."
Messi praise
Fabregas, who left Barca for Arsenal as a 16-year-old, admits he still loves to watch his former team-mate Lionel Messi.
"Messi is the best player in the world and he has been for a long time, never mind what people used to think about Ronaldinho in his prime," he said.
"During Messi's football life I've seen him do incredible things on a football pitch, as a kid or now as a leader of the Barca team."
Fabregas also admitted that he is missing playing alongside midfielder Alex Hleb - who moved to Camp Nou last summer.
"Every week I chat to Alex Hleb on the phone because he's the guy I most miss at Arsenal. He's a friend and I also loved playing with him," he added.
"He always looks for you with a pass and if you give him the ball you can always count on getting it back at the right time."
Gooner10
08-10-2008, 11:34
Well he's gonna go sooner or later whether we like it or not
L . F . C
08-10-2008, 12:50
Arsenal are in trouble. I can see it coming.
I like Arsenal as well:/
Viperized
08-10-2008, 15:35
I honestly would not be surprised if Cesc was next to leave. Who can blame him? In the past five years, we have only won the F.A. Cup, which really is not good enough.
We have let so many players go and few have come in the opposite direction, so I won't expect us to win anything and Cesc will most probably leave if we are trophyless again.
Then the following year I'll expect Van Persie to leave the club! We seem to be a selling club.
TheBishop
08-10-2008, 15:39
If Arsenal are top of the league by the time Eduardo and Rosicky are back, we WILL win the league. People seem to have forgotten how well both them and the team were playing last season before the injuries.
Saying that though, i'm still predicting 4th :/
Well he's gonna go sooner or later whether we like it or notTrue.
Dragonfly
08-10-2008, 18:59
I honestly would not be surprised if Cesc was next to leave. Who can blame him? In the past five years, we have only won the F.A. Cup, which really is not good enough.
We have let so many players go and few have come in the opposite direction, so I won't expect us to win anything and Cesc will most probably leave if we are trophyless again.
Then the following year I'll expect Van Persie to leave the club! We seem to be a selling club.
Cesc has said that he doesn't mind about not winning trophies, not too long ago. So, maybe he's got even less ambition than Wenger.
wrigh2uk
08-10-2008, 19:02
Cesc has said that he doesn't mind about not winning trophies, not too long ago. So, maybe he's got even less ambition than Wenger.
I don't know weather thats a good thing or a bad thing
Dundon's
09-10-2008, 01:09
I honestly would not be surprised if Cesc was next to leave. Who can blame him? In the past five years, we have only won the F.A. Cup, which really is not good enough.
He hasn't exactly won us anything either has he if you want to look at it that way and after the career Wenger made for him I think a little gratitude and loyalty is due.
I don't mind if the lad wants to move on after his contract is up, good luck to him.
mufcsean
09-10-2008, 01:58
Cesc has said that he doesn't mind about not winning trophies, not too long ago. So, maybe he's got even less ambition than Wenger.
Sky Sports News: Cesc Dream
Now he is determined to pick up some silverware this term, but admits he will then look at his options.
"Right now I'm fine at Arsenal but I cannot deny that to return and play for Barca would be a dream come true," he told Catalan based station RAC 1.
"I chose to stay at the club last summer and right now I'm totally focused on the reason for that decision which was to try and win trophies
:erm:
Also, i heard van Persie has been ruled out of Holland's games, what's up with him and how long is he out for? I have him in a lot of my Fantasy teams you see.
Dundon's
09-10-2008, 04:20
It's a hamstring problem and should take a few weeks but when Persie's involved who knows how long.
EDIT: Gallas is injured aswell now and had to pull out of the France squad.
Oh no.
How bad is Gallas's injury?
RB14 ARSENAL
10-10-2008, 10:18
See what I mean when players go on international duty and pick up injuries :angry::realmad::(
CRISSGRAN
10-10-2008, 12:43
I enjoy watching Arsenal play, but what they really need is a striker with a true killer instinct. Somebody who will find the net with nearly every chance. Sorry for all you Adebayor fans out there but he just misses too many sitters for me. I know he's scored some toppers but his touch at times can be horrible aswell along with his passing. He's one of those frustrating players like Luis Garcia was at Liverpool, totally mediocre at times but could always score a topper or 2, Arsenal need more than that since Van Persie seems very injury prone.
TheBishop
10-10-2008, 13:46
That's why I can't wait till Eduardo comes back. I rate him as our best striker and the best finisher in the league along with Torres.
Dundon's
10-10-2008, 15:54
I agree, we don't need anymore strikers.
Viperized
10-10-2008, 16:04
I need some help.
I want to watch Arsenal v Wigan because the tickets are dirt cheap.
However, I cannot seem to buy more than 1 adult ticket, unless I choose to buy 2 junior tickets.
As an 18 year old, do you think it may be possible to sneak in? Isn't the Junior gunner age limit up to 16?
pistolpete
10-10-2008, 20:35
Not sure if it is your age group, but i ordered 5 tickets today by ringing the number on Arsenal.com, tickets section - it takes you to the Arsenal section of ticketmaster. Lower tier tickets £10 each. Upper £20.
Dragonfly
10-10-2008, 21:28
:erm:
Cesc Fabregas has told Sky Sports News that as long as he is happy, he does not care about winning trophies.
Fabregas has won just one piece of silverware in his Arsenal career - the FA Cup in 2005.
Indeed his only medal in the last three years has come with Spain - who he helped to the Euro 2008 title in the summer.
But the young Spaniard is not concerned by those insisting he needs to look for trophies and he admits he could stay at Arsenal for his whole career if he is happy.
"I am just happy the way things are going, people can say 'you haven't won' but yeah I have enjoyed myself and I will try and win until we make it and hopefully that will be this year," he told Sky Sports News.
"People sometimes say, you didn't win a trophy for two or three years - but I say to them, that they don't know how I feel when I am on the pitch, I feel so happy, so free.
"I really enjoy playing for the team and in front of my fans, it is a strange feeling that you have when you're happy but for me happiness is the most important thing in life."
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_4196504,00.html
:flip:
ThierryHenry14
10-10-2008, 21:38
Cesc is a inspirtation to younger players, he doesn't seem like he is just playing for money.
Keyser Soze
10-10-2008, 21:59
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_4196504,00.html
:flip:
So point out the bit where he actually says he doesn't care about winning trophies? He was just sugar-coating to the media - sooner or later he's going to get tired of not winning titles and will return to Spain imo.
TheBishop
10-10-2008, 22:07
If Fabregas does decide to leave in a few years or so, I'm impressed with the way Ramsey is progressing at the moment. Obviously hard to compare him to Cesc at the moment but who knows in 2-3 years time.
mufcsean
10-10-2008, 23:38
So point out the bit where he actually says he doesn't care about winning trophies? He was just sugar-coating to the media - sooner or later he's going to get tired of not winning titles and will return to Spain imo.
Yeah so :flip: back to you Dragonfly
Got to admit that is is pretty hilarious that Fabregas saying he is not bothered about trophies is reassuring to Arsenal fans.
Meyyappan
11-10-2008, 11:38
So point out the bit where he actually says he doesn't care about winning trophies? He was just sugar-coating to the media - sooner or later he's going to get tired of not winning titles and will return to Spain imo.
Sooner or later we are going to win titles this year i would say
League cup finalists at least
and
F.A Cup Winners
Where as the other competions,let them shape up a bit more so to you :flip:
CaptainCabinet
11-10-2008, 11:46
Sooner or later we are going to win titles this year i would say
League cup finalists at least
and
F.A Cup Winners
Where as the other competions,let them shape up a bit more so to you :flip:
Also;
http://pesgaming.com/showthread.php?t=63613
:fplm:
Hleb wants Cesc at Barca
Midfielder keen to be reunited with former Arsenal team-mate
Alexander Hleb admits he is badgering former Arsenal team-mate Cesc Fabregas to join him at Barcelona.
Belarus midfielder Hleb quit the Gunners in the summer to move to Camp Nou and wants to play alongside Fabregas again.
Fabregas, who left Barcelona for Arsenal in 2003, admitted earlier this week that a return to the club would be 'a dream come true'.
The Spain international plans to review his future at the end of the season and Hleb hopes Fabregas will come back to Barcelona.
Like a brother
"We get on very well on and off the pitch. For me he is like a brother. We call each other a lot to talk about things," Hleb told El Mundo Deportivo.
"He tells me he misses me at Arsenal and, without wanting to detract from anyone, I would love it if he came to Barca to be a part of all this.
"I don't stop insisting that he should return to Barca and he doesn't stop insisting that he is very happy at Arsenal and with Arsene Wenger.
"I will keep boring him until he changes his mind. If in the end he listens to me, I think it would be great for Barcelona."
TheBishop
11-10-2008, 16:13
Last time I checked, Hleb was being used as a sub.
Fabregas won't be swayed by Hleb, he'll know when the time is right (hopefully not too soon):erm:
TheBishop
11-10-2008, 16:14
Cesc for Yaya?
I think Diaby is as good as Yaya, potentially even better
I.N Extasy
11-10-2008, 16:38
That's why I can't wait till Eduardo comes back. I rate him as our best striker and the best finisher in the league along with Torres.
Definitely. Old skool forward. The way he so casually gets the ball behind the net is scary! On another note: how do you rate Berbatov?
TheBishop
11-10-2008, 16:44
Definitely. Old skool forward. The way he so casually gets the ball behind the net is scary! On another note: how do you rate Berbatov?
Yeah Berbatov is elegant, don't agree with people who say he's lazy just because he doesn't chase balls he's got no chance of winning. He's smart. I'd put him up there in the top 5 strikers in the league definitely.
wrigh2uk
11-10-2008, 16:48
Cesc for Yaya?
Cesc for Iniesta or Xavi, were not fussy :ninja:
I saw an interview of Xavi's this week and he said that English football interests him greatly. He said "You never know"
Watch this space.
wrigh2uk
11-10-2008, 17:10
I saw an interview of Xavi's this week and he said that English football interests him greatly. He said "You never know"
Watch this space.
I think he'd slot straight into England League life just like Deco has, I definately wouldn't mind seeing him at the Emirates thats for sure. I can't see him leaving you lot though, that boy is Barca through and through.
Xavi's around 28, 29 isn't he?
I.N Extasy
11-10-2008, 20:26
Xavi is twenty eight years old.
Yeah Berbatov is elegant, don't agree with people who say he's lazy just because he doesn't chase balls he's got no chance of winning. He's smart. I'd put him up there in the top 5 strikers in the league definitely.
:happy: Yep, me too.
Dundon's
12-10-2008, 00:17
Cesc for Iniesta or Xavi, were not fussy :ninja:
Iniesta and Xavi you mean?
Phil W.A.F.C
12-10-2008, 01:33
I saw an interview of Xavi's this week and he said that English football interests him greatly. He said "You never know"
Watch this space.
The summer before last he admitted United had been chasing him. i don't know how true it was like but....
wrigh2uk
12-10-2008, 10:43
Iniesta and Xavi you mean?
I stand corrected
DanDaMan91
12-10-2008, 12:31
Swap Fabregas for Xavi or Iniesta. Are you on drugs.
Cesc is a few season away from best midfielder in the world. And you wanna sell him a few seasons before his prime?
Meyyappan
12-10-2008, 13:05
If we are gonna sell him it shall be Iniesta and Xavi as well as Yaya in exchange of Cesc.He is not only going to be the best midfielder,he also has the potential to be the best ever central midfielder in the world.
Meyyappan?
http://www.pesgaming.com/showthread.php?t=63613
If we are gonna sell him it shall be Iniesta and Xavi as well as Yaya in exchange of Cesc.He is not only going to be the best midfielder,he also has the potential to be the best ever central midfielder in the world.
Meyyappan?
http://www.pesgaming.com/showthread.php?t=63613
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Fabregas for Iniesta and Xavi and Toure?
:fplm:
RB14 ARSENAL
12-10-2008, 15:48
Fabregas for Iniesta and Xavi and Toure?
:fplm:
My thoughts exactly. Fabregas may be potentially the best young midfielder in the world, but I would bite their hand off it they offered those 3 midfielders. They would fit right into our midfield :cool:
I can't believe a stupid little comment I made has gone on to this.
Keyser Soze
12-10-2008, 16:17
My thoughts exactly. Fabregas may be potentially the best young midfielder in the world, but I would bite their hand off it they offered those 3 midfielders. They would fit right into our midfield :cool:
No shit. I'm sure you'd also bite their hands off if they offered Puyol, Daniel Alves and Messi in exchange for Silvestre but that's not going to happen either.
Pires - Domenech out, Wenger in
Frenchman believes Gunners boss should replace Domenech
Robert Pires has urged the French Football Federation (FFF) to appoint Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger as national team coach.
Raymond Domenech is currently in charge of Les Bleus, but is under increasing pressure following a poor showing at Euro 2008 and a disappointing start to their 2010 World Cup qualifying campaign.
The country's latest setback came on Saturday night when they were forced to battle back from 2-0 down for a point against Romania in Group 7.
Villarreal midfielder Pires, who has not represented France since 2004, worked with Wenger during his six years at Arsenal, and has spoken highly of his former boss.
Solely to blame
The 34-year-old said: "Arsene Wenger is a gentleman and his qualities would have a positive effect on the French national side.
"He is a class act. Of course, he is Arsenal's manager, but you never know what could happen. If money is made available by the French FA then anything is possible.
"The key is knowing whether he has the desire to leave London.
"Right now I am very worried about what the future holds for France. I don't want Domenech to stay in the job.
"France's young players no longer have any respect for their seniors and the coach is solely to blame."
Backing
Thierry Henry, meanwhile, has urged the FFF to voice its 100 per cent backing for Domenech, with an announcement on his future expected on Wednesday.
The Barcelona forward said: "There is a point when things need to be clear. We must end this debate. If the coach is confirmed, then he is confirmed.
"You can't confirm someone with conditions. If things were clear, it would be easier."
Viperized
12-10-2008, 16:50
Cesc for Iniesta and Xavi? No thanks. They're too short and plus I think they lack the physical presence to suceed in England. Xavi may do well, but I don't think Iniesta would.
DanDaMan91
12-10-2008, 19:48
I think they'd both do well. But I want Cesc.
Dunno even why this question has been thrown up. Cesc is Arsenal.
Dundon's
13-10-2008, 03:04
Let it go lads.
On another note it's good to know that our club doesn't depend on buying the title year in year out with all this credit crunch talk eh?
Cesc for Iniesta and Xavi? No thanks. They're too short
:fplm:
Cesc for Iniesta and Xavi? No thanks. They're too short and plus I think they lack the physical presence to suceed in England. Xavi may do well, but I don't think Iniesta would.
:lol:
I think Diaby is as good as Yaya, potentially even better
:lol:
Iniesta and Xavi you mean?
:lol:
TheBishop
13-10-2008, 11:34
Just wait my friend, just wait.
Dundon's
13-10-2008, 19:08
:lol:
Both of them would fetch about 20m each, Fab would go for 50m easy. :cool:
Anyways, why are we even talking about this the Fabster is going nowhere.
TheBishop
14-10-2008, 13:34
This should interest you Usul:
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_4330573,00.html
ThierryHenry14
14-10-2008, 14:17
I can see him coming in the near future.
TheBishop
14-10-2008, 14:22
I dunno. I think it depends on what sort of impact Diaby has when he comes back and if he can stay injury free for a good run. I believe in his ability.
mufcsean
14-10-2008, 14:37
You think Diaby will ever be as good as Yaya Toure? GTFO
TheBishop
14-10-2008, 14:43
To be fair, he hasn't had a chance to prove it yet because of his injuries. He's still only 22.
Touré would compliment Cesc a lot better then Diaby. Touré is only 25 himself.
It's all just rumours at the moment but if he was to leave and if you guys put in an offer I'd be willing to bet he'd choose you guys over Juve.
ThierryHenry14
14-10-2008, 14:51
I bet Kolo would convince him to join.
mufcsean
14-10-2008, 14:56
Touré would compliment Cesc a lot better then Diaby. Touré is only 25 himself.
It's all just rumours at the moment but if he was to leave and if you guys put in an offer I'd be willing to bet he'd choose you guys over Juve.
Only problem is that i can see Barca doing a deal without seeing Cesc going in the opposite direction.
I.N Extasy
14-10-2008, 18:47
I wouldn't rush things. I think Diaby is very talented too. Give him time.
TheBishop
14-10-2008, 20:11
Anyone watching the under 21s? Ramsey has just scored a scorcher!!
Adammce05
14-10-2008, 20:28
5-4 on agg listening to it, heard it was a topper.
mufcsean
14-10-2008, 21:17
Was an absolute beauty that.
AgentZero
14-10-2008, 21:24
Whats all this nonsense of ROsicky retiring? or contemplating it.
FACt or Fiction?
TheBishop
14-10-2008, 21:26
Whats all this nonsense of ROsicky retiring? or contemplating it.
FACt or Fiction?
Bollocks. He'll be back sometime before Christmas, although i am worried about the length of time it's taking him to get back.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_4334990,00.html
Dragonfly
14-10-2008, 21:58
Whats all this nonsense of ROsicky retiring? or contemplating it.
FACt or Fiction?
The last article I read on his injury, I was questioning whether he would decide to retire. It appears he has some sort of long-term, if not permanent, medical condition on his leg. I hope he regains his fitness and class in the new year.
Dundon's
15-10-2008, 04:18
That's all we bloody need, if that man never plays again it will be the greatest football tragedy I've ever seen. As for Yaya, we should of signed him years ago, don't know why it just didn't happen it was very unlike Wenger to let him slip the net.
This should interest you Usul:
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_4330573,00.html
If anything, it's reassuring. Besides, it's bollocks. Guardiola loves him, and so does every fan and supporter. He will play in every CL match, once we're through to the quarter finals. He'll also feature in most of our difficult matches, ahead of Busquets, of that i am sure.
Meyyappan
15-10-2008, 11:31
Did any of you guys notice Ramsey in the under 21s?Do you think he could play DMF like Laudraup i mean?Playmaker,Scorer and all but still protect the back four.
RB14 ARSENAL
15-10-2008, 11:38
Did any of you guys notice Ramsey in the under 21s?Do you think he could play DMF like Laudraup i mean?Playmaker,Scorer and all but still protect the back four.
Unfortunatly I missed it; I heard about Ramsey's 'wonder strike'
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45108000/jpg/_45108833_ramsey282.jpg
I really look forward to seeing Ramsey develop in the next couple of years, he could be a first-team regular if he carries on like this and keeps on learning from the first team player's at Arsenal.
Aaaron Ramsey, Jack Wilshere..the future looks bright for Arsenal :cool::D
TheBishop
15-10-2008, 12:16
Did any of you guys notice Ramsey in the under 21s?Do you think he could play DMF like Laudraup i mean?Playmaker,Scorer and all but still protect the back four.
Not sure. Arsenal are one of the few teams to not really play a defensive midfielder, which probably helps in making them so exciting to watch. It's still too early to tell really what Ramsey's best position will be, he played behind the striker last night and was the best player on the park.
One things for sure though, after watching the 2 under 21 games, i can see what all the hype was about.
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