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My wish is to get a decent midfielder !!
:cool:
I see your point mate, and I do think we need one more midfielder to help fill the gap left by Veira, although what we have now to me, has just enough quality to cope with his absence, yet for Arsenal that isn't good enough.
u not support birmingham??
Darth Daft
01-08-2005, 20:15
That's not necessarily a good thing though is it? Ok we get to look at a new kit but it's another £40 to fork every season if you want to keep up to date. I hope this isn't the sign of things to come, we don't want to become like spurs.
youve got a new one to fork out for after the claret ones though aint you. Getting as bad as us :D still, like us, loads of gimps will buy it which is why theyll do it. .
Hleb looks good to me. Just hoping you get some injuries to your best players this time around. Sorry :)
Hmmm,
He plays for Arsenal
He cannot catch the ball
Possibly ;)
If we can get a replacement for Viera, and a new keeper. We'll be stronger than ever. But it's a big if whether we do get that replacement. Shame we missed out on Baptista <_<
Viperized
01-08-2005, 22:00
There are many quality centre-midfielders. I don't know why Wenger hasn't put a bid for one.
Ballack would be a great replacement in my opinion. Or Riquelme. Ah well, we all know they are not going to come anyways.
Riquelme just signed for Villarrael
Riquelme just signed for Villarrael
Can't win them all...as Arsene says...give the youngsters a chance... Flamini has been fighting through the amsterdam games...and hasn't done too badly...it's just Pires that didn't do much in the middle...maybe he should have swapped with Hleb...
I think a good keeper will help - Almunia wasn't too bad I thought..until the game at Old Trafford...couldn't believe he just dived the completely wrong way every time somebody shot at him (i.e. C Ronaldo)...*sigh*...and letting in a first minute goal in the league cup didn't help either.... :realmad:
Darrenaldo
02-08-2005, 15:21
does anyone know anything ablout this viera bloke (the keeper obviosly). I heard he was kinda on the short side, but with good reactions and speed. Any more insight?
Viperized
02-08-2005, 15:54
Viera is 185 cm tall. Seems tall enough for me as Casillas is about 183-185 cm tall, and is rated as one of the best keepers.
Darrenaldo
02-08-2005, 18:07
says here paddy was/is 193 http://www.goal.com/DWH_Actor.aspx?idSquadra=5&idStagione=10&idPersona=1147&name=Vieira%20Patrick
BazHilder
02-08-2005, 18:47
youve got a new one to fork out for after the claret ones though aint you. Getting as bad as us :D still, like us, loads of gimps will buy it which is why theyll do it. .
Hleb looks good to me. Just hoping you get some injuries to your best players this time around. Sorry :)
Hmmm,
He plays for Arsenal
He cannot catch the ball
Possibly ;)
Funny you should say that cos I went out and bought the new shirt today. I didn't get last season's though cos it was only for one season (I know this years is too but it's a special one).
The best song I've heard about the new Viera (came from football365 chat forum) is this:
Viera, woah oh oh
Viera, woah oh oh
He comes from Uruguay
He's only got one I
Classic stuff!
Darth Daft
02-08-2005, 19:10
Funny you should say that cos I went out and bought the new shirt today. I didn't get last season's though cos it was only for one season (I know this years is too but it's a special one).
The best song I've heard about the new Viera (came from football365 chat forum) is this:
Viera, woah oh oh
Viera, woah oh oh
He comes from Uruguay
He's only got one I
Classic stuff!
well at least your shirts look ok normally in a modern sort of way, still dont think anyones topped Adidas's United shirts from the early 90s, though Arsenals were similar. Still should have kept your old badge though.
yeah thats not bad. Im sure there will be loads, content depending if hes good or shite.
Viperized
02-08-2005, 19:11
says here paddy was/is 193 http://www.goal.com/DWH_Actor.aspx?idSquadra=5&idStagione=10&idPersona=1147&name=Vieira%20Patrick
I was on about the Viera, the goal keeper, not Vieira.
Notice the difference in the amount of "I's"
GK: Viera = one I
MF: Vieira = two Is
Darrenaldo
02-08-2005, 20:47
I was on about the Viera, the goal keeper, not Vieira.
Notice the difference in the amount of "I's"
GK: Viera = one I
MF: Vieira = two Is
I think this confusion was the real reason we sold vieIra, wenger foresaw the problem for dyslexics and apparent idiots (ie me)!
Viperized
02-08-2005, 22:07
The best song I've heard about the new Viera (came from football365 chat forum) is this:
Viera, woah oh oh
Viera, woah oh oh
He comes from Uruguay
He's only got one I
Classic stuff!
Or this:
Viera, woah oh oh
Viera, woah oh oh
He comes from Uruguay
And what a bargain buy
lol how bout this
Viera, woah oh oh
Viera, woah oh oh
He comes from Uruguay
but is he good or shite?
Funny you should say that cos I went out and bought the new shirt today. I didn't get last season's though cos it was only for one season (I know this years is too but it's a special one).
The best song I've heard about the new Viera (came from football365 chat forum) is this:
Viera, woah oh oh
Viera, woah oh oh
He comes from Uruguay
He's only got one I
Classic stuff!
Classic! I didn't get it at first...but hey...all makes sense and rhymes!! LOL!
Viperized
04-08-2005, 10:39
Or what about this:
Viera, woah oh oh
Viera, woah oh oh
He comes from Nacional
And he plays for Arsenal
that'll be the chant if he becomes an established first team player :)
Viperized
05-08-2005, 18:10
I checked the Arsenal website and it does not show the new signing Wenger promised that will be shown today. My guess its Viera though, as he has been mentioned in the Arsenal website as a GK Wenger is after.
Darrenaldo
05-08-2005, 20:18
my guess is that we won't see them today, but it should be viera
Well...I'm hoping he keeps Lehman on his toes!
codename 47
06-08-2005, 15:40
i'll be supporting Arsenal tommorow against chelsea,i've even put money on them at my local Ladbrokes bookies
i'm tiping Henry to have a good game,also i hope arsene plays Hleb as i think he could have big impact agaist chelsea :)
BazHilder
06-08-2005, 20:33
It says on the official site that Viera could be joining if the medical and financial side of things are sorted out.
I'm going to the game tomorrow so I especially hope we get the season off to the best possible start.
i'll be supporting Arsenal tommorow against chelsea,i've even put money on them at my local Ladbrokes bookies
i'm tiping Henry to have a good game,also i hope arsene plays Hleb as i think he could have big impact agaist chelsea :)
Good on ya! ;)
Argh...bad game Senderos...two high balls..two goals....but I am encouraged....the team shared Vieira's "burden" well I think! Just need to create more on the flanks...get that final ball...and have more shots on goal!
i hate chelsea
they just bought the community/charity shield... wonder whats next?
i hate chelsea
they just bought the community/charity shield... wonder whats next?
Well...that's a little unfair...they played solid at the back...whereas we were too open...and relying on off-sides too much....I think they did well...but probably...that's good since they have to try hard to break the jinx of winning the community shield...AND the league...only 3 times in 20 years it's been done... :laugh:
codename 47
07-08-2005, 18:38
Good on ya! ;)
My prediction may have been wrong but as abit of a arsenal follower i wouldn't be too concerned by what happened today,if anything they can take a few positives as they did dominanat posseion for much of the game something of which many said they wouldn't do after the loss of vieira
one thing that is certain i think wenger will need a couple big singings,one a midfielder,someone physically strong with high energy levels,baptista would have been good for the job, and maybe micahel owen ? because at times henry looked a little isolated even when reyes and van persie came on
overal i don't think arsenal are as far away as the media have said ;)
king reyes
07-08-2005, 23:36
I knew Vieira wouldn't be that much of a loss. There was no trace of his supposedly commanding presence in our midfield last season. He's proved that his whole "My heart lies with Arsenal " line was just crap he fed the media. I know that probably didn't really enlighten anyone,but I just had to say somthing about it. Hell,I even opted to buy a nameless Arsenal shirt over one with Vieira's name on it. I guess that what hurts me the most about it is he went to Juve,whom I just despise.
Rangers_Fureva
08-08-2005, 00:04
Today was just a warm up game for the Premiership as i don't really think much of the Comminuty Sheild, to me it's the diddy cup and hopefully this "Jynx" of winning the Community Sheild then losing the Premiership Title remains and Arsenal win it, C'Mon Boys let's win teh title for our last year at Highbury!!:):)
Just like to congratulate u all for that fine performance against chelsea
Ronaldo_is_fat
08-08-2005, 06:09
Wenger must get a striker to partner Henry inorder to compete with Chelsea because from the looks of yesterday's game they have hard time breaking through Chelsea's crowded defense. Their only goal was from a clumsy Chelsea defense.
king reyes
08-08-2005, 06:35
Wenger must get a striker to partner Henry inorder to compete with Chelsea because from the looks of yesterday's game they have hard time breaking through Chelsea's crowded defense. Their only goal was from a clumsy Chelsea defense.
Same way most goals scored against us are because of our own clumsiness in defense. I think you're making a good point though,because Henry can't do it all. We all know how good Henry's passing is,so if hw had a strike partner that would keep trying to invade the opponent's box,that's where that ability could come in handy.The way it is right now, everybody on the team tries to set up Thierry,which makes him the prime target for defenders.The midfielders have other duties,so they can't always support the attack.
Mmmm....but I think we've got to try our squad out...VP + Reyes need to get better certainly...and Lupoli's 1 goal per game is still pretty good...even though some is against lower quality opponents!
In any case, there's still time to transfer...but I don't know what Wenger's gonna do...I wish he would put Eboue on instead of silly Lauren though...he's gonna get red-carded again soon...
jthk2004
08-08-2005, 12:32
whatever wenger will do, i hope he won't buy jermaine jenas...
martin_cranie
08-08-2005, 20:36
Well i'm more annoyed about losing my points in the betting thread than actually losing the match. Not a terrible performance but certainly indicative of a lack of real experience and quality. I'm hoping this will teach Wenger that he needs another experienced central midfielder.
I'm not sure i really buy the "your midfield is crap without Vieira" line that the media is spouting but one real concern i have is sheer numbers. Last season a poor depth in defense and between the sticks really cost us, and i think this season will see us struggle in central midfield. Bringing in this Song bloke is fine but if you remove Gilberto then we have about as much experience as... well some highly inexperienced thing. Edu would have helped a lot by staying but now, for me, it's down to someone in the Essien or Ballack mould. But i think the chances of Wenger spending much more, especially on a big name player, are remote.
hussain1
08-08-2005, 22:44
arsenal the best ggggggggggoooooooooooooooooooo ooners!!!!.
Darrenaldo
09-08-2005, 02:24
since when did gilberto and makelele get tricks from? Neat little flicks and turns were the order of the day. Is there a 'stylish defensive midfield 101' nightclass that they've been attending? Keep it up Gilbert, ukelele can brake both his legs trying a step over for all i care!
Henry100
09-08-2005, 02:28
Well i'm more annoyed about losing my points in the betting thread than actually losing the match. Not a terrible performance but certainly indicative of a lack of real experience and quality. I'm hoping this will teach Wenger that he needs another experienced central midfielder.
I'm not sure i really buy the "your midfield is crap without Vieira" line that the media is spouting but one real concern i have is sheer numbers. Last season a poor depth in defense and between the sticks really cost us, and i think this season will see us struggle in central midfield. Bringing in this Song bloke is fine but if you remove Gilberto then we have about as much experience as... well some highly inexperienced thing. Edu would have helped a lot by staying but now, for me, it's down to someone in the Essien or Ballack mould. But i think the chances of Wenger spending much more, especially on a big name player, are remote.
Couldn't have said it better
Ronaldo_is_fat
09-08-2005, 04:46
I am not sure if Wenger is going to get a new central midfielder because Arsenal already got Fabregas, Flamini and Gilberto. Hleb could play on the middle partnering Gilberto, that would definitely bring more creativity. Reyes would play left and Ljungberg would continue playing on the right side. A new central defender and a striker would be essential.
since when did gilberto and makelele get tricks from? Neat little flicks and turns were the order of the day. Is there a 'stylish defensive midfield 101' nightclass that they've been attending? Keep it up Gilbert, ukelele can brake both his legs trying a step over for all i care!
LOL! I noticed that too!!! Like when Gilberto did a piroulette between two Chelseas players backwards and through midfield like smooth butter! LOL! :laugh: He must've picked up a lot of Brazilian sunshine!
Ah...we did ok! True tests to come in the league I think! Give the kids a chance...and finally Arsene IS doing that...what other team can say that?!
BazHilder
10-08-2005, 12:09
I still think Owen would be perfect, Wenger says he loves him but doesn't think he'd work with Henry. Bit of a missed opportunity imo.
The Viera deal's fallen through cos he failed a medical. So we still need a keeper too.
ThierryHenry14
10-08-2005, 13:56
I still think Owen would be perfect, Wenger says he loves him but doesn't think he'd work with Henry. Bit of a missed opportunity imo.
The Viera deal's fallen through cos he failed a medical. So we still need a keeper too.
we don't need owen yet cause we got reyes who is good and on another thread it said that arsene wenger is intrestead in a player called rio something who plays for bordeux
BazHilder
10-08-2005, 14:51
Yeah we've got Reyes and Van Persie who are both good but they're both left sided and a mixture of winger/striker whereas Owen is a right sided out and out centre forward, the perfect compliment to Henry.
we don't need owen yet cause we got reyes who is good and on another thread it said that arsene wenger is intrestead in a player called rio something who plays for bordeux
Rio Mavuba!! LOL
Owen may be good...but still seems expensive! ;)
codename 47
10-08-2005, 15:59
Rio Mavuba!! LOL
Owen may be good...but still seems expensive! ;)
C'mon £11 million's a bargin for 'englands best striker',if brazil and itayl's best strikers became avaliable the price touted would be £ 30-40 million,malkes me wonder why real don't ask for that much,chelsea were ready to pay that much for Sheva,adriano,etc
if owen does leave i'd much prefer him to go to arsenal :)
king reyes
10-08-2005, 21:06
Damn! I was so happy we signed a keeper, only for Viera to fail his medical! What'll Arsene do now? Are we gonna be stuck with Lehmann AGAIN?!
Viperized
10-08-2005, 23:32
Kluivert failed his medical at first but he retook he and passed.
Maybe the same will happen with Viera?
Darrenaldo
11-08-2005, 00:18
apparently, according to anr, we didn't sign him because he was 'vertically challenged'. Im not sure how how being a short arse is amedical problem, but i see where they are coming from if its true, wouldn't 'survive' in the premiership being that tall- here: take a gander http://www.anr.uk.com/articles/i-2005-08-10-15-13-38.html
king reyes
11-08-2005, 01:23
Since when has being vertically challenged a real problem? Just look at Casillas!
Darrenaldo
11-08-2005, 03:41
Since when has being vertically challenged a real problem? Just look at Casillas!
as it says here http://www.goal.com/DWH_Actor.aspx?idSquadra=126&idStagione=10&idPersona=1223&name=Casillas%20Iker, cassilas is 185, while ash is 173. that is quite a large gap between small player and small keeper, "a little taler than ashley cole" would be quite small for any keeper. what 'puzzles' me is the fact he still gets rave reviews and is the uraguay no1. im not saying he can't be a small good keeper, i just don't think arsene would disregard such a apparently good player, obviously he must be able to hold his own, hmmmm...........
oh well, I truelly believe arsene knows!!!!
jthk2004
11-08-2005, 05:48
Damn! I was so happy we signed a keeper, only for Viera to fail his medical! What'll Arsene do now? Are we gonna be stuck with Lehmann AGAIN?!
i think we shouldn't take any gamble on untested keepers. viera is good but will he be another almunia, shabban or manninger? we need a keeper like seaman to bring us to the next level. yes we are a top club, but we netta win the champions league if we are going to be a real top club. and having a shaky defence and a unreliable keeper won't do us any good...
Mmm...the mexican legend of a keeper...(can't remember his name) wasn't THAT tall...so why should it make a difference? HA! Talk about unequal opportunity...if he is Uraguay No.1....there must be a reason (besides the fact that the more experienced keepers got injured...)...
Mm...ok..Owen is pretty cheap relatively I must admit...since he in a full international Codename47 - agreed! I guess compared to Reyes...he's probably even a BARGAIN!
EDIT - AH! It's CAMPOS!!! The mexican keeper!
It's my first post in this thread and I have to say that, with all respect to Owen, I wouldn't like to see him in Gunners squad. Why? Cause then Dennis would stay on bench and I can't imagine Arsenal without him. Even though he's old, he's still one of the top players in our attacking formation. Let alone saying that he's my favourite player :) And of course we still have Reyes and Van Persie and some good promising Lupoli or Owusu-Abeye.
As for the new keeper. I think that Arsene has too make a quick and accurate decision since Viera is out. Maybe some of the youg German generation? Wiese, Hildebrand?
Ronaldo_is_fat
11-08-2005, 08:44
I wish Wenger would get Hildebrand and King.
BazHilder
11-08-2005, 13:10
We've apparently taken Song on a season long loan -
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/4692645.stm (http://)
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40677000/jpg/_40677896_song203.jpg
Interesting to see Song get a chance! Brings down the average age again of the team!!
r_carlos
12-08-2005, 10:05
Arsenal to land Bastia's Song
Arsenal are set to conclude a deal for Bastia's Cameroon-born player Alexandre Song, the Corsican club confirmed on Thursday.
Song, an 18-year-old who can play in defence or midfield, was in London on Thursday with Bastia directors where a deal is expected to be concluded later in the day.
Bastia spokesman Pierre Carlotti told PA Sport: "He (Song) is in London with the directors and he is in the process of sealing the deal."
"It will be a loan deal with an option to buy."
Henry100
12-08-2005, 11:57
^ Yeah, £2.5 million if we do buy him next season
martin_cranie
13-08-2005, 20:13
hleb is class
Thanks I was unsure until i read that :)
Well...it's going to be an interesting start! Hopefully Hleb will do the job...a cross between Overmars and Reyes I reckon...he's pretty fast but also with good technique!
Come on you gunners!
I think Hleb is fast, full of technique and surely a good buy from arsenal... but our biggest mistake was selling viera and for such a low-price... I think Alex Song, will be a significant sub replacing the terrible pascal cygan...
Song is young and on a loan, hopefully he will perform and arsenal can sign him.
A player that is at his end of his best-playin is Robert Pires... i think Hleb shld begin to replace him... and Bergkamp should be replaced with Reyes or Persie and should be the hour man or late man like Robin van Persie currently...
Our team needs Sol to return because Senderos is not experienced enough and
I think Arsene Wenger needs to shaken up on his teams starters...and should stop playing and buying young and unexperienced...
i doesnt matter that vieira went to juve...Fabregas is the best young player around i guarantee you that he WILL be the best player of the world in a few years..
Well...not too much of an impact yesterday...but he'll get into his stride I think. We did really well at the end...but too much fancy soccer most of the time!
gazza2004
15-08-2005, 09:03
yesteday? against...
Against Newcastle.
Viperized
15-08-2005, 09:16
Well I wasn't all too impressed by Arsenal's performance yesterday till we got the 2-0 and it seemed like we had more control of the game when Hleb came on. Hleb should be in the starting lineup, not Pires.
obviously you's deserved the win yesterday as you dominated the game but didn't really look threatening at times, i was very pleasently surprised with how our defence performed for a change, it shows what difference it makes having a solid spine with the likes of Parker, Boum and Taylor impressing more and more after every game, and don't get me started on the ref, Jenas' tackle was the "Bryan Robson" special it just looked worse because of the way Gilberto fell awkwardly, but i'm not gonna complain as over the season these things even themselves out, although Bennett has an appauling record against us, like Jimmy's hand ball at the start of last season, still want Arsenal for the title though as we're obviously miles away, so good luck lads
Darrenaldo
15-08-2005, 10:25
Well I wasn't all too impressed by Arsenal's performance yesterday till we got the 2-0 and it seemed like we had more control of the game when Hleb came on. Hleb should be in the starting lineup, not Pires.
i certainly see what u mean, pires looks so lethargic and nothing he tried comes off (kinda like reyes last season), but hlebs impact from the start is untested. against tired legs, hlebs brilliant pace and skillful jinks would be horror at any time, but more so in the 70th minute. good to see freddy involved with both goals. noticed that both goals came frommovement down the inside wing, rather than centre. if we can improve our wing play and prepare for really good 10man defences (ala chelsea and munich), the title is ours (everybody is doing chelseas 4-3-3 with variation, which will just be a 4-5-1 at times, so we gota be ready)
still want Arsenal for the title though as we're obviously miles away, so good luck lads
gd gd :)
Hleb is absolutely quality
great replacement for bobby... although i'd really like to see Pires at Arsenal for a while longer... you's shouldnt start talking about him being crap, because we all know Pires n know of his quality...
might start a Pires appreciation thread lol (joke)
codename 47
15-08-2005, 19:15
I thought Hleb made some impact when he came on against arsenal,i can see wenger starting him soon if he keeps playing well,so goes for van persie
Can't wait till sunday :) if arsenal can beat chelsea,would be good for them to get a little breathing space between the two if at this early stage of the season
is alex song , rigobert song's brother ? the one who plays in galatasaray?
codename 47
15-08-2005, 20:09
Nephew i think ;)
adams9802
18-08-2005, 17:35
Well...not too much of an impact yesterday...but he'll get into his stride I think. We did really well at the end...but too much fancy soccer most of the time!
He'll be alot better when teams give us space and don't sit back with 8 men behind the ball at all times. ALthough he did look weak against parker. But considereing he's 6 years older than Cesc I'll ignore that for now. Cesc doesn't have such a finite pssing game yet he needs a bit of space to play the ball around and after Jenas went off we could kiss that goodbye.
Ronaldo_is_fat
19-08-2005, 05:17
Arsenal doesn't play well against crowded defense especially with the opposing having at least 8 players on their backfield. I would like them to play the ball wider and not only trying to get through on the middle.
swift-ee
21-08-2005, 17:08
wot dyu guyz fink of da arsenal nd chelsea match
My mom bought me one of those Arsenal 05/06 home kits(no name or number), I myself think it looks very good. My mom doesnt and my brother thinks its purple :mellow:
What do you lot think?
It has grown on me, and I quite like it, this is coming from a United fan remember.
If I was you, I would get something on the back though, makes it that extra bit classier. Get something new and original too.
HIGHBURY
1
Something smart like that for the last year there.
Great idea, was looking for a countrymen like Van Persie or Bergkamp, but I like the idea of yours.
I like the golden letters, they look very classy :)
wot dyu guyz fink of da arsenal nd chelsea match
I think wenger has made the same mistake he has made for the last four/five seasons, which is to leave Bergkamp out of the side, and as usual Arsenal looks restless without him and the midfield cant really connect with the forwards, as is often the case when Bergkamp isnt on the pitch.
Lucky lousy goal by Drogba, shitty game overall.Lots off fouls and just pretty badf football. Should have ended 0-0, but since Wenger didnt field Bergkamp, didnt evensub him for the bad playing Henry or Pires, he deserves to lose.
Scarface
21-08-2005, 18:04
I think wenger has made the same mistake he has made for the last four/five seasons, which is to leave Bergkamp out of the side, and as usual Arsenal looks restless without him and the midfield cant really connect with the forwards, as is often the case when Bergkamp isnt on the pitch.
Lucky lousy goal by Drogba, shitty game overall.Lots off fouls and just pretty badf football. Should have ended 0-0, but since Wenger didnt field Bergkamp, didnt evensub him for the bad playing Henry or Pires, he deserves to lose.
We didn't deserve to lose whether Bergy played or not. To be honest he has been playing shit against Man Utd and Chelsea the past couple of seasons, but I think van persie or Reyes should have started rather than Pires, who has looked well below par. Shame Ashley Cole hadn't of been Asier del Horno as then Poll could have granted Chelsea a penalty to allow them a 2-0 win.
Viperized
21-08-2005, 18:51
Selling Vieira was a big mistake...
Henry doesn't seem to play well since he became captain.
codename 47
21-08-2005, 18:52
I don't think arsenal played as bad as people make out,neither did chelsea,i was glad wenger gave Hleb a start as he was making impact and i thought chelsea were struggling to stop him especially in the first half,apart from a cheap goal from drogba a draw would have been a fair(ish) result
My main concerns were No one in the box when crosses are made,this has been happening for a while but can some what restrict arsenal's play
and Henry's performances since he's been captain,not that he's been very poor but he's starting to feel he jhas to do everything including dropping deep so may times
In the 11 days till the transfer window closes,arsene could do with signing a dominaint midfielder,like baptista, and defenately a striker,more specifaly michael owen
Scarface
21-08-2005, 19:04
I don't think arsenal played as bad as people make out,neither did chelsea,i was glad wenger gave Hleb a start as he was making impact and i thought chelsea were struggling to stop him especially in the first half,apart from a cheap goal from drogba a draw would have been a fair(ish) result
My main concerns were No one in the box when crosses are made,this has been happening for a while but can some what restrict arsenal's play
and Henry's performances since he's been captain,not that he's been very poor but he's starting to feel he jhas to do everything including dropping deep so may times
In the 11 days till the transfer window closes,arsene could do with signing a dominaint midfielder,like baptista, and defenately a striker,more specifaly michael owen
Plus a central defender. After his excellent performances at the end of last season, Senderos has really let himself down with some shocking errors of late. Jorge Andrade would be perfect, and with Deportivo stating they are in poor financial conditions, a decent bid for him may be considered.
Some of Wengers decisions recently have been quite concerning, not only has he sold our captain, but also our decent backup keepers Taylor and Stack so now if Almunia suffers an injury we will have to rely on a 17 year old, and today starting Pires today over Bergkamp, van persie or Reyes, bringing on Flamini for Fabregas when we need a goal, what the hell is that about?
Viperized
21-08-2005, 19:09
Ljungberg, Cole or Campbell should have the captaincy for Arsenal imo.
...Some of Wengers decisions recently have been quite concerning, not only has he sold our captain, but also our decent backup keepers Taylor and Stack so now if Almunia suffers an injury we will have to rely on a 17 year old, and today starting Pires today over Bergkamp, van persie or Reyes, bringing on Flamini for Fabregas when we need a goal, what the hell is that about?
My thoughts exactly. :(
Zoolander
21-08-2005, 19:15
Don't you think Arsenal need a Striker who can score scruffy goals? Everytime i see Arsenal play they have to pass the ball round too much. Not that it's a bad thing.
Viperized
21-08-2005, 19:18
Don't you think it would be best if Henry drops the captain's armband?
Don't you think it would be best if Henry drops the captain's armband?
That has actually crossed my mind, sometimes it appears he has too much to deal with. Instead of letting him get on with the game, and do his own thing.
Zoolander
21-08-2005, 19:21
Who would be your captain? Sol Campbell?
Viperized
21-08-2005, 19:23
Probably. I would like to see Sol as captain or Ashley Cole.
DARK JAK
21-08-2005, 19:35
Don't you think it would be best if Henry drops the captain's armband?
Absolutely not. Henry in my eyes is the one with the most heart and loyalty playing for Arsenal at the moment. So for anybody to put Henry to blame is a fool. It seems that we need a goalscorer who could take the weight off Henry, maybe Owen like many pundits have said. Another position to consider is a midfielder or goalkeeper.
codename 47
21-08-2005, 19:42
Plus a central defender. After his excellent performances at the end of last season, Senderos has really let himself down with some shocking errors of late. Jorge Andrade would be perfect, and with Deportivo stating they are in poor financial conditions, a decent bid for him may be considered.
Some of Wengers decisions recently have been quite concerning, not only has he sold our captain, but also our decent backup keepers Taylor and Stack so now if Almunia suffers an injury we will have to rely on a 17 year old, and today starting Pires today over Bergkamp, van persie or Reyes, bringing on Flamini for Fabregas when we need a goal, what the hell is that about?
Whats the deal with reyes ? how come he wasn't on the bench ?
Zoolander
21-08-2005, 19:54
Might just be me but doesn't Jens Lehmann looks a bit like Julian McMahon from Nip/Tuck?
DARK JAK
21-08-2005, 20:01
Whats the deal with reyes ? how come he wasn't on the bench ?
The thing is no one knows. Something fishy going on :angry:
Might just be me but doesn't Jens Lehmann looks a bit like Julian McMahon from Nip/Tuck?
u kiddin julian mcmahon looks good
Scarface
21-08-2005, 20:06
Whats the deal with reyes ? how come he wasn't on the bench ?
I'm not sure, he was suspended last week so maybe Wenger wanted to include players who have had already played this season. Most weeks we will have to drop a good attacker from the squad now we have Hleb, Pires, Reyes, Ljungberg, van persie, Bergkamp and Henry to select from. Pires has been appaling recently, i'd like to see Quincy given a chance, especially now it seems that Bentley, yet another promising English player, is on his way out.
Zoolander
21-08-2005, 20:07
I'm trying to find a good picture to compare them.
DARK JAK
21-08-2005, 20:08
I'm not sure, he was suspended last week so maybe Wenger wanted to include players who have had already played this season. Most weeks we will have to drop a good attacker from the squad now we have Hleb, Pires, Reyes, Ljungberg, van persie, Bergkamp and Henry to select from. Pires has been appaling recently, i'd like to see us give Quincy given a chance, especially now it seems that Bentley, yet another promising English player, is on his way out.
Yeah Pires was shambolic today. I can't remember him doing anything good but get a corner. Plus his diving was a disgrace.
BazHilder
21-08-2005, 20:23
Cole, Toure, Hleb and Fabregas has good games and Lehmann made a couple of good saves but other than that our individual play was poor. The team did well as a team but there was just no-one looking like they even wanted to score. Henry had an awful game, we need a tap-in merchant striker like Owen.
We missed Vieira again today too, no-one to calm it down and create time and space for his team-mates.
Gutted to have lost such an even game where we had the lion's share of possession but did nothing in front of goal.
Chelsea's undeserved points tally up to 4 out of 6 now.
Well...I think the money also bought Lady Luck for Chelsea too...but then again...I did feel we lacked a bit of conviction. Nobody running into the Chelsea defense except for Hleb! And not many shots on goal...
I agree...Reyes for Pires any day I think...or VP up front to start off with Hleb back at side mid-field. Mmm...Wenger shouldn't fall into this trap of just doing his Plan A...
Ronaldo_is_fat
22-08-2005, 04:24
Henry played very very poorly and probably because of Wenger's tactic. What the heck was Pires doing on the field? Why wasn't Reyes on the bench? He would be a better idea than old slacking Pires. Van Persie is no doubt a talent but he still needs more time. Fabregas gave away the ball easily as he didn't look so confident on the crowded middle. For me selling Vieira was a very bad idea.
Arsenal were unlcuky....Henry had a shocker maybe captinacy going to his head???thinking he has to do everything on the pitch??
Probably. I would like to see Sol as captain or Ashley Cole.
Id pick a more loyal player than Cole, plus he isnt in a central position. I know, Zanetti at Inter plays leftback too and captains the team, but Its not good to have a back as a captain. How's he going to whine to the ref, or say something to the striker or wingers?
Wenger said that Ash Cole will captain Arsenal in the future.....thoughts?
BazHilder
22-08-2005, 11:24
He needs to grow up first. Central defence or central midfield are the best positions for a captain.
codename 47
22-08-2005, 15:30
I'm not sure, he was suspended last week so maybe Wenger wanted to include players who have had already played this season. Most weeks we will have to drop a good attacker from the squad now we have Hleb, Pires, Reyes, Ljungberg, van persie, Bergkamp and Henry to select from. Pires has been appaling recently, i'd like to see Quincy given a chance, especially now it seems that Bentley, yet another promising English player, is on his way out.
If wenger doesn't go in for owen i would like to see Quincy(dunno howto spell the rest) paired up front with henry as maybe he could be that ''fox in the box'' striker everyone says arsenal need
As for who should be captain,i think henry is the best choice,he just needs to get used to it first as he seems to be feeling the presure as when ever arsenal aren't performing well they'll straight away look toward captain henry,so he tries too hard to make things happen
Quincy isnt a superb striker as in scoring lots of goals and scoring minimal chances in cold blood.
Mainly relies on tricks and speed to get the job done.
Arsenal needs a type-Crespo, so to speak.
codename 47
22-08-2005, 15:45
Do yuo think arsenal will/would go in for michael owen ?
Well...the challenge is definitely on...with Chelsea one up! I think we'll come back...We need some time to gel, get a few more shots on goal...etc etc...
adams9802
23-08-2005, 02:10
Ljungberg, Cole or Campbell should have the captaincy for Arsenal imo.
COle?! You have to be kidding me. That snake should just fuck off and die. I could have been perfectly fine with him leaving, but as Captain I think there would be a revolt by the fans. :realmad:
We need some time to gel
not really... we play the best football in the premiership and with one new signing who looks like hes been playin for us for years... we do not need time to gel we need a strong midfielder or to send cesc off to the gym for a heavy duty work out.
codename 47
23-08-2005, 20:25
COle?! You have to be kidding me. That snake should just fuck off and die. I could have been perfectly fine with him leaving, but as Captain I think there would be a revolt by the fans. :realmad:
I don't think cole should be arsenal captain,i don't think the fans will like it and perrsonally i don't think being captain will suit A.cole
Henry should keep it,let him bang in some goals against fulham and co and watch him take off from there :cool:
BazHilder
24-08-2005, 00:17
Wenger's announced that he'll buy a keeper but no outfield players before the transfer window ends.
arsenal could do with a proper replacement for vieira as neither fabregas or flamini fit the bill in my opinion
adams9802
24-08-2005, 08:28
Wenger's announced that he'll buy a keeper but no outfield players before the transfer window ends.
great. Just the uplifting news I like to hear.
codename 47
24-08-2005, 10:57
Wenger's announced that he'll buy a keeper but no outfield players before the transfer window ends.
I'm not sure if thats the right decision by wenger,i think he should buy a new central midfielder to go alongside gilberto silva,someone who is physically imposing and can get up and down the pitch
I'm not sure if thats the right decision by wenger,i think he should buy a new central midfielder to go alongside gilberto silva,someone who is physically imposing and can get up and down the pitch
i agree as i sed fabregas and flamini are just average players although fabregas will improve
BazHilder
24-08-2005, 16:24
Yeah that's why he wanted Baptista so much cos he's big, strong and mobile. At the start of the summer he said he wanted 2 world class players, since then we've bought Hleb (1 world class player left) and then sold Vieira (back up to 2 again) so unless my maths is horribly wrong we still need 2 more players. We still need an attacking midfielder and an out and out goalscorer so I'm very disappointed to hear that we're not going for anyone else. We sold Vieira and did fuck all with the cash. After last season we need to be strengthening not weakening the squad.
I would have liked Owen but £18m is far far too much.
Scarface
24-08-2005, 18:23
i agree as i sed fabregas and flamini are just average players although fabregas will improve
Average players? You are having a laugh. May I suggest you book the soonest possible appointment at specsavers.
Although time is not on our side, I don't believe Wenger when he says he will not sign (or at least try to sign) any outfield players. He has on many occasions before said he will sign just 1 player and signed 2, 3 or 4, or said he will not sign any and then signed some within the next week so hopefully that will be the case again as we could do with a centre back, experienced centre midfielder and a striker to take some of the workload off Henry, aswell as a goalkeeper in my opinion.
codename 47
24-08-2005, 19:48
Do you guys think wenger should go in for another centre back ? as i was watching skysports and they believed that arsenal could do with another defender
Fabregas isn't average in my opinion and with flamini he's not afraid at times to get stuck in
I'm hoping henry can ''bully'' the smaller teams as people say,because if arsenal can get themselves on a run they're pretty hard to stop :cool:
Lauren missed pen, lol. :laugh:
Fulham score. Claus Jensen.
Viperized
24-08-2005, 22:24
Arsenal 4 - 1 Fulham!
Arsenal:
(2) Cygan
(2) Henry
Fulham:
Jensen
BazHilder
25-08-2005, 09:57
Lauren missed pen, lol. :laugh:
Spurs couldn't score against Blackburn, lol. :laugh:
Hey, to all you haters, if you didn't realise Arsenal aren't going to the days of Vieira/Gilberto type play. After all, can you really think of someone to replace vieira at this moment in time? No I didn't think so. And in any case, were adapting to allow Fabregas a freer role, as he is a better passer than vieira and is probably more of an OMF anyway.
Ronaldo_is_fat
25-08-2005, 10:27
Sad we missed out on Baptista he could be a really good signing. He could definitely provide what we lack on attacking. Wonder if Wenger is going to sign a new striker or an attacking midfielder?
rondroid
25-08-2005, 14:06
Sad we missed out on Baptista he could be a really good signing. He could definitely provide what we lack on attacking. Wonder if Wenger is going to sign a new striker or an attacking midfielder?
wenger is a stubborn bastard!!, he wont sighn unless e really needs oo besides i know alot of fellow gooners who have bemoaned the fact that he wont give the youngsters a chanceover the past seasons, this season is their chance!!
Dragonfly
25-08-2005, 14:16
I'm an arsenal fan, and what I'm about to say will probably make me really unpopular with fellow gooners: From the start of last season (before losing our unbeaten run to Man utd) I've been saying the same thing. I wouldn't mind Wenger leaving. I only say it because i think he's done all he can with our team. I can't see us winning the Champions league. I would love to have Guss Hiddink as our new manager.
However, I do aprecciate everything Arsene has done for us.
jthk2004
25-08-2005, 14:46
wenger wanna sign more players too, but the cash is very limited even before buliding the stadium. u cannot take money risks these days. leeds united is a good example. maybe we need some local millionaires to support the team. yes, i say local!
I'm an arsenal fan, and what I'm about to say will probably make me really unpopular with fellow gooners: From the start of last season (before losing our unbeaten run to Man utd) I've been saying the same thing. I wouldn't mind Wenger leaving. I only say it because i think he's done all he can with our team. I can't see us winning the Champions league. I would love to have Guss Hiddink as our new manager.
However, I do aprecciate everything Arsene has done for us.
I have mixed feelings about this subject.
I STRONGLY disagree with his decisions and tactics in many matches, and the choices he makes at times... (not playing Bergkamp when it's obvious Arsenal always plays much better when he's in the side, because they just seem a bit more relaxed and sure it will all be OK, plus the link-up between midfield and forwards is a big problem whenever dennis isnt playing..., the selling of Viera for so cheap, letting go of Manninger (who was pretty much flawless when he replaced Seaman), letting mediocre players play (Ljungberg is good, but like Parlour 4-5 years ago, has a tendency to loose too many balls, plus goes for his own chances too often when really it would have been better to pass... so he doesnt have a really good surrounding vision, or he's just selfish or a bit thick...), never subbing Henry even when he plays crap, his treatment of older players, looking at age instead of fitness... etc etc...
I do think he's a wonderfull manager when it comes to building a real TEAM, where everyone pretty much gets along really well, and wants to win at all costs, he's great at improving young players and giving them confidence, and he's very good at taking young raw talents under his wings etc etc...
He always stands by his players, and or off the pitch, defending their actions etc...
Most importantly, Arsenal play a very attractive kind of football, based on fast passing, good positioning, and creativity... and when it works it's absolutely drop-dead gorgeous... and every manager that makes his team play that kind of (hard) football, is a very very good manager.
I'd like to see him stay, but I'd also like him to reconsider his attitude towards the older players when they're still proving to be in great shape...
I'm 100% sure that we would have done better against Chelsea if Bergkamp would have played, since he ALWAYS creates chances and makes the team just 'relax' a bit. It's almost as if the team is 'immature' and 'hasty' and 'tense', whenever Dennis isnt playing...
jthk2004
25-08-2005, 14:58
yi-long was right on the spot. i am surprised to see bergkamp on the bench instead of starting the match. i mean hleb is a good player but his situation is kinda like robert pires when he first came here and never adapt until a year later. bergkamp is fantastic against fulham. we could have score 10 goals if tony warner isn't there...
i am not sure if wenger was right to sell vieira. but after watching gilberto's ball control and passing yesterday, we need vieira back!
yi long calling ljungberg average?
lol fool
Scarface
25-08-2005, 18:19
i mean hleb is a good player but his situation is kinda like robert pires when he first came here and never adapt until a year later. !
I disagree, to me Hleb looks like he has been in the team for 5 years, he has gelled into the team far better than I ever imagined he would at this stage and he will just get better and better, a future world superstar without a doubt.
I agree Hleb is a great footballer with a good future ahead of him.
DARK JAK
25-08-2005, 18:55
I have a theory that seeing as though from recent comments Arsene Wenger doesn't seem to have the heart anymore, thus me believing that he could well leave in the summer. This could then spark off Henry to go and many other key players, which could potentially leave us with a huge stadium for the reserves to play in thus is to be relegated. :unsure:
I might be over exagerating this theory but it could well happen :( .
Scarface
25-08-2005, 23:35
I have a theory that seeing as though from recent comments Arsene Wenger doesn't seem to have the heart anymore, thus me believing that he could well leave in the summer. This could then spark off Henry to go and many other key players, which could potentially leave us with a huge stadium for the reserves to play in thus is to be relegated. :unsure:
I might be over exagerating this theory but it could well happen :( .
:laugh: Going a little O.T.T. there I think.
I think that he might be talking a bit of sense.
adams9802
26-08-2005, 00:22
I have a theory that seeing as though from recent comments Arsene Wenger doesn't seem to have the heart anymore, thus me believing that he could well leave in the summer. This could then spark off Henry to go and many other key players, which could potentially leave us with a huge stadium for the reserves to play in thus is to be relegated. :unsure:
I might be over exagerating this theory but it could well happen :( .
What doomsday novel have you been reading. ITS THREE BLOODY GAMES INTO THE SEASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yi long calling ljungberg average?
lol fool
Let me explain a bit with what I mean with 'average'...
I know Ljungberg is at times very very important and scores goals etc, but he also very often loses the ball cause he makes an action that doesnt work, or takes a shot when it would have been better to pass...
I kinda liken him to Parlour, who seemed to have the same trademarks.
I enjoy watching both players play when their actions work, but also very often, they don't.
Since Arsenal play a very quick, attacking PASSING game, where all the players should have a very good pass and good vision, these kinda players are kinda 'irritating' when they try to bring the ball everywhere.
HOWEVER(!), in those very physical games, say against Man Utd, these players are often very usefull (although sadly against Chelsea Ljungberg was pretty mediocre, at best), cause they get everyone 'on edge' and emotionally involved, because they are bound to have many personal duels...
However nice it is to see a physical, hard game... I do prefer seeing the free-flowing, fast-passing Arsenal passing-machine kinda play that can take defences apart.
I'm not against players dribling, in fact I LOVE it, but since Ljungberg isn't a really 'outstanding' dribler (like Robben, Ronaldo, or Quincy), I'd rather not see him do it. I prefer a guy like Finidi George or Trabelsi on the right side, who just know how to pass very well, keep the ball, and time their runs and attacks well, as well as giving lots of great passes to the forwards, instead of trying to bring the ball into the 16 each and every time...
Calm down guys - no name calling pls! Disagreement is fine...being mean or thoughtless is not fun. We're all here to give our opinion.
I thought that Hleb really worked well, and was the only one who was able to attack the Chelsea defense head on. He'll be good for us...and Fabregas I think can turn into this kind of player...albeit less dribbling (Hleb is pretty good!) and more passing. Flammini really works hard...and is only lacking in stature at this point - not bad at all.
Ljungberg? He's a class player in some games, and poor in some others....just like Pires...or any player. He and Pires are similar though...getting on the scoresheet when they need to...just unfortunate it didn't happen at Stamford Bridge this time.
Whatever happens, we can build on this team and it IS a TEAM game...so nobody is irrreplacable...what were the odds of Cygan scoring a double?!?!?! HAHA!
Maybe it's this fella we are after....
http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=301736&CPID=24&CLID=3&lid=&title=Arsenal+on+Achille%27s+t rail&channel=premiership
Arsenal look set to challenge Lyon for the signature of Achille Emana.
Lyon are long-term admirers of the Toulouse midfielder as they view him as the ideal replacement for Michael Essien, after selling the Ghanaian to Chelsea.
However, Tony Adams was in the stands at Lille scouting the highly-rated youngster for Gunners boss Arsene Wenger.
"I am here for Emana," the former England captain told L'Equipe.
"Arsene Wenger asked me to come and see him play.
"I believe he is looking for a midfielder to replace Patrick Vieira."
Lyon officials were also in attendance for Wednesday evening's 0-0 draw but Les Violets chairman Olivier Sadran has no desire to sell the African ace.
"I have not tried to find a replacement," said Sadran. "Because I think Achille will stay.
"I have an agreement with the player.
"If Lyon give us a cheque with the required bank guarantees, he will leave.
"But be careful, the price is €7 million (£4.77 million), that means there are several other things besides, but I won't tell you what."
Meanwhile, l'OL supremo Jean-Michel Aulas has definitely refused to allow Pierre Alain Frau to leave on loan, despite late interest from Lens.
Darrenaldo
26-08-2005, 11:03
I have a theory that seeing as though from recent comments Arsene Wenger doesn't seem to have the heart anymore, thus me believing that he could well leave in the summer. This could then spark off Henry to go and many other key players, which could potentially leave us with a huge stadium for the reserves to play in thus is to be relegated. :unsure:
I might be over exagerating this theory but it could well happen :( .
i 2 fear that arsenae henry leaving scenario, but arsene ha stated that he will lead arsenal into the new stadium, and by the way he's focused on youth buys recently, Id think hed want his babies (stadium and team) to at least approach their peak. If all of arsene's kids peak together at the right time (ala becks ad co) then we'll have a long lasting dynasty (the kind money can't buy) and arsene may well be held as one of the greatest managers ever. If he left sooner than later then someone else would have to nurtutre the team and if they succeed then the new manager would get the glory. We can clearly see from wenger's buys that he's here for the long haul. If he was leaving he could of splashed the cash, not sold paddy, and won the league again.
Ronaldo_is_fat
26-08-2005, 12:34
Wenger is leaving? Who's making this up? If he really do then screw it but it's just impossible isn't it? If he really did then i think the old Lyon manager Paul LE GUEN will take his place but still it sounds impossible.
Darrenaldo
26-08-2005, 14:06
Wenger is leaving? Who's making this up? If he really do then screw it but it's just impossible isn't it? If he really did then i think the old Lyon manager Paul LE GUEN will take his place but still it sounds impossible.
Le Guen indeed, but not for another 5-6 years!!! You have the Darrenaldo Darrentee that Arsene will be at arsenal for at least another 4 seasons.
Ohh and when he does leave Tony adams may have the experince to become manager.
jthk2004
27-08-2005, 11:49
Ohh and when he does leave Tony adams may have the experince to become manager.
tony adams will certainly be one of the canditates but u see his managerial skills at wycombe and he needs another 10 years of experience to be more mature. being an arsenal scout now is good for him as he travels around europe or even the world, and he know more people and watches more matches so he understand not only the playing side of the game. maybe arsene can hire him as a coach in the next few years and teach adams his knowledge, then when wenger retires or quits, adams will be ready to takeover and we won't be another wycombe by then...
if adams takes over (why r we talkin about this??) i hope we dont turn deffensive
but this is years away lol
Fabregas ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuules ! :D
Fabregas ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuules ! :D
LOL...thanks for that! :unsure:
ThierryHenry14
28-08-2005, 12:40
why have only played our matches on sundays so far
why have only played our matches on sundays so farwhat about Wed?
:blush:
codename 47
28-08-2005, 15:48
Who's arsenal's next game against ? as it seems they've abit of a break as they were originally meant to play liverpool but because of their european commitments its been re-arranged
Scarface
28-08-2005, 17:31
Who's arsenal's next game against ? as it seems they've abit of a break as they were originally meant to play liverpool but because of their european commitments its been re-arranged
Middlesbrough - September 10th.
Mmmm...a long time to go!
Ronaldo_is_fat
29-08-2005, 09:27
Things would be easier if Hleb could playon the right and Reyes on the left. Two skillful players on the wing would definitely prove a challenge for the opposing team.
Hleb CAN play anywhere in mid-field...as can Reyes (although he mainly plays on the left). I'm just hoping Fabregas takes a hint from Hleb and attacks more!
And leave the defensive stuff to Gilberto/Flammini...
Mmm...Maybe we should play 4-3-3...as Man U have started to....that would fit a few more of our attacking guys in like Quincy, VP, Lupoli...
BTW...we are looking to go after this Turkish player Faith Tekke? Anyone heard of him or seen him in action?
jthk2004
29-08-2005, 17:12
BTW...we are looking to go after this Turkish player Faith Tekke? Anyone heard of him or seen him in action?
never heard of that name until now... but if we were going turk i think we should try to buy david nugent from preston. i am very impressed with his skills, especially after watching his two goals against ipswich today...
and i thought wenger is bringing in a keeper before the transfer deadline, isn't he? it's 29/8 today and we only have 2 more days. or does he think we are facing minnows in the champions league so we don't need a new keeper? maybe he changes his policy on youngsters now and give mark howard or mannone a chance? oh dear...
Zoolander
29-08-2005, 17:18
Faith Tekke was the leading scorer in the Turkish league last season i think.
I've heard he's fuckin' deadly in the air too, could be just what the Arse need actually.
I still think Wigan are favourites to sign him though.
Zoolander
29-08-2005, 17:30
Arsenal don't seem to like crossing balls in though.
Scarface
29-08-2005, 18:50
Things would be easier if Hleb could playon the right and Reyes on the left. Two skillful players on the wing would definitely prove a challenge for the opposing team.
Reyes and Hleb were on the left and right for a lot of the Fulham game and played very well there, and were swapping places every now and again to good effect.
Ronaldo_is_fat
30-08-2005, 12:03
Any chance of Arsenal signing Darren Bent?
jthk2004
30-08-2005, 12:41
Any chance of Arsenal signing Darren Bent?
darren bent looks good but it's too early to tell if he can live up the expectations...
Arsenal don't seem to like crossing balls in though.
of course not crossing as we don't usually have anyone waiting in the box when we attack... so fatih tekke maybe a good alternative if opponent's defence is too hard to break down on ground, if he can score goals by headers...
Sounds good to me if he's good in the air! We'll have a "Drogba" on our hands!! Lob it to him boys!!
jthk2004
30-08-2005, 13:20
Lob it to him boys!!
but we can't rely on long balls and crossing or we will revert back to the good old arsenal a decade ago...
Having a big-ass forward like Drogba and the rest of the team just all lobbing balls at him, would seriously ruin my love for Arsenal, since it would mean a decade of gorgeous, quick, innovative quick passing football is gone...
I think we have a great foward-line-up, with Bergkamp, Henry, Reyes, Van Persie, Quincy, and perhaps Lupoli ...
The only problem is the link-up between midfield, and forwards. Fabregas and Hleb have the qualities to quickly link-up the forwards, but I feel we do need Bergkamp in-between those 2 lines, just because he brings rest in the team, plus he always creates chances.
Lobbing balls in hardly ever won a team a championship, plus it will get the team too lazy, as they will stop being creative and fast, but will just bootkick every ball forward and wish for the best. That ain't football.
jthk2004
30-08-2005, 15:28
Lobbing balls in hardly ever won a team a championship, plus it will get the team too lazy, as they will stop being creative and fast, but will just bootkick every ball forward and wish for the best. That ain't football.
well, lobbing balls can win championships, but it's coca-cola championships though...
DARK JAK
30-08-2005, 22:58
What doomsday novel have you been reading. ITS THREE BLOODY GAMES INTO THE SEASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know i'm just reading in to the whole thing to much.
But don't say I didn't warn ya ;)
but we can't rely on long balls and crossing or we will revert back to the good old arsenal a decade ago...
Heh heh....don't take me too literally...Drogba is a big gorilla...and I hate the way Chelsea play. So...it was a joke!
However, we should do more with our heading and goalscoring from corners...we can do good free kicks...but can't place it for our fellas to head in? Come on! :(
jthk2004
31-08-2005, 05:58
However, we should do more with our heading and goalscoring from corners...we can do good free kicks...but can't place it for our fellas to head in? Come on! :(
well, cygan is taking that gorilla role in our game against fulham... but will that be it for him?
LOL...when Campbell is back...he'll be the tall guy in the crowd....
BTW...on demand...here's Mr. Isaksson!!
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger is still considering his goalkeeping options, according to sources in Estonia.
The Gunners boss has faith in number one Jens Lehmann but is keen to get experienced cover before the deadline on Wednesday night.
Sunderland's Mart Poom has had extensive talks with the North Londoners as rumours of a swap deal involving Justin Hoyte persist but it has emerged that Rennes' Andreas Isaksson could be an alternative target.
The Swede has been joined at the Ligue 1 club by his pal Erik Edman of Tottenham but Arsenal are believed to be weighing up a bid for the talented keeper.
Poom left the Estonian international camp to fly to London to negotiate a deal with the FA Cup holders but there are conflicting comments from the only man to have contacted the Black Cats goalie since the talks.
Aivar Pohlak, president of Poom's first club Flora, told Postimees: "It's almost sure that everything will be solved tonight. It's looking promising."
However, Pohlak informed another daily Estonian newspaper, SL Ohtuleht, that there is another name in the frame.
"They will decide on Wednesday," he revealed. "But I am not too hopeful as I know that they are still holding talks with another goalkeeper."
Darrenaldo
31-08-2005, 15:52
http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?article=303034&lid=NewsHeadline&sub=Arsenal+sign+Estonia+goalk eeper+Mart+Poom+on+loan&navlid=&sublid=&Title=Arsenal+sign+Estonia+goa lkeeper+Mart+Poom+on+loan
Til 2006!!!! Do u think we'll bring in someone else in the winter break, I hope theres not another remi shaaban situation
Scarface
31-08-2005, 18:54
I reckon we'll sign Isaksson at some point, probably either this winter or next summer.
edit: Bentley has just joined Blackburn on a season long loan. I'm surprised he hasn't left permanently by now, I can't see him having a future at Arsenal unfortunately.
codename 47
31-08-2005, 20:04
I'm suprised wenger has gone in for mart poom,though i guess this is only a short term option as he's only signed till the end of 2005
DARK JAK
31-08-2005, 21:46
I can't believe Wenger would stoop so low in buying Poom. Ok in his prime he was half decent but now at the age of 33 joining a team that plays in europe. Its absolutely Shocking.
I'm surprised he has bought him too.Not sure he wil solve our problems.
jthk2004
31-08-2005, 22:28
i think poom will play no more than 5 matches... 2 in champions league and 3 in carling cup...
Ronaldo_is_fat
01-09-2005, 15:10
Poom? Did Wenger ate something wrong? Hope that he'll prove me wrong.
Scarface
01-09-2005, 18:27
He hasn't been signed to take over from Lehmann, and probably won't play anymore than 5 or 6 games (2 in the CL, 1 or 2 in the Prem if Jens is out, maybe a couple in the FA Cup) and he is hardly shit. Not too long ago he was one of the better keepers in the League and he had cost us nothing so it's hardly something to worry about. I could think of far worse backup keepers at top European clubs.
jthk2004
01-09-2005, 23:15
He hasn't been signed to take over from Lehmann, and probably won't play anymore than 5 or 6 games (2 in the CL, 1 or 2 in the Prem if Jens is out, maybe a couple in the FA Cup)
won't be in the fa cup anyway since the fa cup starts on january and he should have left already...
Scarface
01-09-2005, 23:35
won't be in the fa cup anyway since the fa cup starts on january and he should have left already...
It depends when he leaves in January, whether it's the first day of the month or later on in January. I think we faced Stoke in the 3rd round last year in the early part of Jan., so there could be a chance for him to play in it for us.
jthk2004
01-09-2005, 23:42
It depends when he leaves in January, whether it's the first day of the month or later on in January. I think we faced Stoke in the 3rd round last year in the early part of Jan., so there could be a chance for him to play in it for us.
almunia is our hero in fa cup. we owe him one more chance...
Scarface
01-09-2005, 23:43
almunia is our hero in fa cup. we owe him one more chance...
Oh yeah, good point...or if not, at least bring him on if it ever goes to penalties :D :cool:
jthk2004
01-09-2005, 23:45
Oh yeah, good point...or if not, at least bring him on if it ever goes to penalties :D :cool:
although he is pretty poor in the champions league though...
am i the only one disapopinted at our summer signings?
promised 30 mil to spend n we get helb (quality) and a past it keeper...
Scarface
08-09-2005, 23:32
Did anyone see Robin van Persie's performance yesterday for Holland or at the weekend? He was magnificent, we could really have another world superstar on our hands here. It may have only been against Andorra and Armenia, but the touch and skill he showed was breathtaking. He looks fired up and ready to go this season. I think this will be a big year for him, he should confirm his position as Henry's regular strike-partner and I can really see that partnership developing into something special. With Hleb and Quincy adding to our already lethal attack, and Reyes looking more adapted to the Premiership alongside Pires and Ljungberg, we should see more classy football this season. With the way Arturo Lupoli is playing for the reserves, I think he may well make an impact in the Arsenal first team soon. He has scored 4 goals in 2 games now, incredible finisher and goalscoring instinct he has.
Also great to see Sol Campbell return, he looked ok in his 2 reserve matches, fingers crossed he stays injury free now and gets back to near his rock-solid best.
Ronaldo_is_fat
09-09-2005, 10:50
I think Reyes is the most talented player in the Arsenal squad by the way.
Clyde Frog
09-09-2005, 16:00
I think Reyes is the most talented player in the Arsenal squad by the way.
I disagree, Reyes has went down in my listings as after the season Arsenal won it, he got of to a good start scoring in every game but he just went down, Van Persie is better to have in first team than Reyes.
Viperized
09-09-2005, 16:56
Also great to see Sol Campbell return, he looked ok in his 2 reserve matches, fingers crossed he stays injury free now and gets back to near his rock-solid best.
I thought Campbell played quite well in his first game.
adams9802
09-09-2005, 20:19
I thought Campbell played quite well in his first game.
any of you gonners gonna be at the Thun game? Gonna be my first visit to highbury...
Ronaldo_is_fat
10-09-2005, 07:51
I said Reyes is talented but that doesn't mean he played up to his skills.
jthk2004
10-09-2005, 20:41
I said Reyes is talented but that doesn't mean he played up to his skills.
reyes was unlucky today... should have scored 2 inside the first 5 minutes. but on the other hand, his missed chances haunted us though, although he finally got one in stoppage time...
i mean today's performance really hurt. ashley cole and reyes did all right but other players were just horrible...
defence: a mistake each for cygan and toure, please play sol campbell in the next game...
midfield: i know hleb has talents but he just couldn't cope with boro's physical approach. gilberto, flamini and pires were nowhere. sub fabregas was too late to have any influence...
forward: henry was injured so we lost our main goal-getting source. bergkamp is a playmaker these days and reyes tends to do it himself. i wish wenger would bring van persie on at halftime but somehow he waited until 75 minutes to do that. wtf was he waiting for? the outcome wouldn't be like this if wenger made changes at halftime. conceding the 2nd goal like that was just unaccpetable!
7RONALDO7
10-09-2005, 20:43
Ive never seen anyother team so dependant on one player...Henry!
PS: dont reply by saying United are nothing without RVN.....as we won the majority of games he didnt play.
jthk2004
10-09-2005, 20:51
Ive never seen anyother team so dependant on one player...Henry!
u are spot on for this one. i wish wenger would invest in a real centre-forward and a defender. there were so many problems exposed today. what a bad game...
00vanacored
10-09-2005, 21:38
o my god, wah a erformance from the mighty boro, maccarone was an absolute work horse this match totally commited to the game, the yak did well also andis finish was top class, maybe now they will boh start scoring regularly which, if they live up to their potential, could get us into a record legaue position come the end of the season and possibly challenge to do an everton with a solid back 4 (wll right backa bit iffy but too early to tell, and when riggot gets back) who knows, i thought rochembak had a good influence on the game also spraying good passes accross the pitch
for me arsenal were a bit unlucky to not be ahead early on but their shoddy back 4 cost them and with all the players trying to score the "perfect" goal you will never get anywhere, at first it was hard to deal with but now teams are starting to adapt as this result proves (first time boro neva got beat by arsenal in 8 or 9 games i believe)
Scarface
11-09-2005, 00:12
Ive never seen anyother team so dependant on one player...Henry!
PS: dont reply by saying United are nothing without RVN.....as we won the majority of games he didnt play.
We also have won the majority of games when main striker hasn't played. In fact, our win record with Henry out of the team is very similar to when he is in the team.
I thought Reyes and Hleb were excellent today, Reyes in particular. The rest were either average or poor. The 2nd goal which killed us was very unfortunate, Xavier's blatant push on Hleb should have resulted in a penalty, then they go up the other end and score after another diabolocal bit of defending by Cygan. How on earth Wenger can have confidence in putting his name on the team sheet I have no idea. We should have invested in a top centre back, but now we'll just have to play young Eboue or Senderos when Sol isn't fit as seeing Cygan in an Arsenal shirt makes me feel more sick to the stomach by the second. An utter disgrace to this club.
The way we never looked like getting back into it when we went 2 goals down (just like when we went down 1-0 to Chelsea) was very disappointing and leaves me with hardly any confidence of our chances of success of the season. I'm expecting nothing from this season (apart from Champions League qualification), which is ridiculous given how early it is into the season. I'm rarely pessimistic concerning Arsenal, but I just don't see where the major improvement is going to come from. I hope i'm wrong, but our defence is still a shambles at times, and without Vieira or a good replacement (or a replacement at all) it's hardly going to improve and the team doesn't have the confidence it had over the past 3 or 4 seasons.
Ronaldo_is_fat
11-09-2005, 01:41
Funny why Wenger still play Pires and by doing that we are only playing 10 men.
Viperized
11-09-2005, 07:27
I am hugely disappionted with the result and when Hleb got pushed it should've been a penalty to us. I thought we were playing quite well until we conceded the second goal. We almost could've scored at the end.
We need to get a good centre-back to replace Cygan.
jthk2004
12-09-2005, 08:13
We need to get a good centre-back to replace Cygan.
i don't think wenger will replace cygan though, given the fact that they both speak french...
i don't think wenger will replace cygan though, given the fact that they both speak french...
LOL...I'm not quite sure that is the key to Cygan....but truly I don't know why Wenger still sticks by him....terrible...Djourou or Hoyte might do better....
Well....it's too bad nothing came through for us except Hleb in the transfer period. Baptista was a huge loss I think...although I am not sure he has had much of an impact at Real Madrid.
*sigh* Hope it gets' better on Wed.
Ronaldo_is_fat
12-09-2005, 12:08
Baptista made a great impact on Madrid's first game but shame they lost. We'll need new faces to compete with Chelsea and get a chance in the CL.
Funny we're still using Lehmann as the goal keeper it would be great if we could get someone like Van Der Sar.
Scarface
12-09-2005, 18:30
Lehmann is doing ok for us, we shouldn't keep blaming him when results don't go our way. Pascal Cygan, Kolo Toure (excellent defender but not at his best currently) and Robert Pires ( extremely talented player but such a lazy cunt who needs a kick up his arse) are more to blame. When the time comes to replace Lehmann, I wouldn't want us to sign another ageing keeper like VDS, but a top young keeper like Hildebrand, Isaksson, Kameni or Proto who we can rely on for the next 5-10 years.
Guillermo
12-09-2005, 18:37
I've never laughed so much at a footballer having seen the way Cygan dealt with Boro's second goal on Saturday. Hilarious stuff, keep it up Pascal :D
gerard1922
12-09-2005, 20:29
Bring Back Sol To The Defence
I've never laughed so much at a footballer having seen the way Cygan dealt with Boro's second goal on Saturday. Hilarious stuff, keep it up Pascal :D
I think everybody gives an involuntary shudder when we see Cygan on the team sheets! His touch is just a cut above...SH*T...but then again...who wouls have thought he would score in his first match?!?! HAHAHA!
Ah well...the ball is round...things happen...Cygan happens... :realmad:
Zoidberg
13-09-2005, 04:49
I've never laughed so much at a footballer having seen the way Cygan dealt with Boro's second goal on Saturday. Hilarious stuff, keep it up Pascal :D
Same here...I honestly don't know how he's made into professional football after seeing that. He tried to push up when the players was two yards infront of him...I mean...what the hell?
Wenger's biggest mistake is, and has been for years, not buying a proven centre back. There comes a point when you can't keep relying on youngsters, I think Arsenal have come to that point.
AgentZero
13-09-2005, 09:16
Wengers problem is relying on thierry too much...is he out for a week with his groin problem....serves bad news for you gooners
Wengers problem is relying on thierry too much...is he out for a week with his groin problem....serves bad news for you gooners
Well Henry is a big player for us...but don't forget we did ok without Henry and Viera for games last season. It IS a team game guys...and we need ALL the players to step up a gear. No fiddlying about, no fancy passing, no superior good-looking play...just get the goddamn ball into the net!
Confidence is a fickle thing - let's hope the lads can handle the criticism and get it going again.
jthk2004
13-09-2005, 11:07
Funny we're still using Lehmann as the goal keeper it would be great if we could get someone like Van Der Sar.
we won't be using lehmann tomorrow. let's see who make mistakes in our defence then...
Morientes19
13-09-2005, 11:21
What A Awesome Spine Of The Team Arsenal Had With Campbell, Vieria, Edu, And Henry. Although Senderos Has Done Very Well, Cygan Is Awful, Lets Be Honest. The Midfield Will Be Ace In The Future With Flamini And Fabregas Real Prospects But They Dont Have The Presence Of Vieira And Edu(who Wenger Hasent Really Replaced). Gilberto Is Steady Enough And Does A Good Job And Fabregas Is A Great Passer Of The Ball. I Am Very Impressed With Hieb, Dont Know If You Guys Have Noticed His First Touch Is Amazing He Looks Really Good And Will Replace Pires Place On The Flank When He Leaves In The Summer Probably.
Your Strikers Are Good. Reyes And Van Persie Are Too Alike And Without Henry You Have No Real Pace Although Reyes Is Quite Fast And Owusu Is Ready Yet.
Shame You Let Bentley Go I Feel He Will Be Good For Rovers This Year. But He Wanted First Team Football Which Is Understandable As Hes Good Enough For The Prmiership.
As For Your Champions League Hope It Doesnt Look Good, You Havent Really Replaced Vieria And Edu And You Struggle Against Strong Defensive Teams And Run Out Of Ideas And Start Doing Things You Wouldnt Normally Do Like Pumping The Ball Into The Box And Getting Crosses In.
Anyway Dont Be Offended Arsenal Fans. Sorry For The Capitals!!!
Heh...thanks Morientes. Always good to have another opinion. Well, nobody is perfect and different situations require different things. To be honest, I really liked Wiltord - hard worker, scores, team player...and now he's doing quite well at Lyon. So there IS life after Arsenal too...and letting players go is partly to let youngsters come up...and partly to manage finances etc.
The real part is winning, and we've gone over that many times. As I always say...the ball is round - who knows what will happen next...but the fact is the TEAM have to blame themselves...not put the burden of winning on non-existent players if they can't win.
Ronaldo_is_fat
14-09-2005, 13:40
Good comment, damn Van Persie injured before the match a tackle from Eboue looks like we'll need to rely on Reyes to score. If Reyes could continue his form plus a steady defending from our back four, this game could be in their bags.
Charlie: 9
14-09-2005, 13:54
Arsenal always score sweet goals... they need to net the ugly goals too. How longs Henry out for, anyways? Do you's play Thun tonight ?
Viperized
14-09-2005, 21:46
BERGKAMPPPP!!!!!
2-1 to Arsenal!
Gilberto and Bergkamp for Arsenal.
Guillermo
14-09-2005, 21:52
I'd like to see a replay of the Van Persie sending off. Kicking someone in the head :mellow:
I guess by accident, but knowing Robin a bit of intend could've been there.
Viperized
14-09-2005, 22:03
It was an accident. He went to control an aerial ball but he accidently hit the guy on the head.
Charlie: 9
14-09-2005, 23:35
van Persie shouldnt have been SO. His eye was on the ball and he didnt see the man till it was too late like. Arsenal were so lucky, but ill say nothin because Bergkamp is something else!
Ronaldo_is_fat
14-09-2005, 23:47
Bergkamp the legend who saved us from blushes
Charlie: 9
14-09-2005, 23:50
The man is excellent
jthk2004
15-09-2005, 03:41
apart from bergkamp's goal, i must say i am happy that arsenal finally use nike printings instead of the premiership ones. is this an indication we will finally win it now? it'd better be...
Replay right here guys....
http://s32.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=049FR0RPP2VJG0JMDQOL 3PY8KW
All the CL highlights Day 2.
king reyes
15-09-2005, 16:53
Damn, that CL game kept me on my toes right up to Bergy's goal! I sighed in relief when Gilbo scored, only to be shocked 2 minutes later. After the loss to Boro, this will hopefully be a morale booster. However,the we're gonna have to find a way to play more effectively without Thierry,because the way we played against Thun won't work against tougher opposition.
adams9802
15-09-2005, 17:09
We looked better in midfield this time out but still managed to pass it around far too much for my liking. Pires needs to know when to shoot. 9actually the whole team needs to learn that sometimes it better to have a crack. The referee was spot on with the Red card but failed to send off the Thun player for smashing Gilberto's head in. Nice to have Campbell back his assurance in the air completely negated their long ball tactics that they tried all night. Lauren looked a bit shakey as normal but Cole had an absolute blinder, made some key interceptions on the counterattack. Although it was ridiculous to see people walking out of Highbury before the game was over. Sometimes I think Arsenal fan's attitude is a bit too gaelic.
Good to see you back adams! Disagree with the red card...but didn't see the whole game or moment. Replays show VP never looked at the defender until the last moment...and his leg was bent in the end and arms outstretched to try and stop...
adams9802
17-09-2005, 10:52
Good to see you back adams! Disagree with the red card...but didn't see the whole game or moment. Replays show VP never looked at the defender until the last moment...and his leg was bent in the end and arms outstretched to try and stop...
Thanks. I don't think the issue was whether or not that he had his eye on the ball. It was totally reckless. Its not as if the Thun player had his head low. Van persie must have control of his own feet and at the very least not cleat someone in the face.
Viperized
17-09-2005, 20:54
Yeah well I don't think RvP was going to play at Ajax anyways since when he played there with Feyenoord, the Ajax fans attacked him.
Well...it's official - 1 match ban.
adams9802
18-09-2005, 15:20
is anyone going to the Everton game or the West Ham game? I prefer to travel with someone to West Ham so I dont get my head knocked in.
is anyone going to the Everton game or the West Ham game? I prefer to travel with someone to West Ham so I dont get my head knocked in.
LOL! Is it that bad? Well...I'd do it if I was in the country! Never been to match yet...so I'm gagging for it! What's the best way to get a ticket these days? And not pay through me teeth for it? :ohmy:
jthk2004
19-09-2005, 05:58
is anyone going to the Everton game or the West Ham game? I prefer to travel with someone to West Ham so I dont get my head knocked in.
i would be there if i were in the uk... but i am in miami, florida, usa and should be dealing with another hurricane in the coming days...
Ronaldo_is_fat
19-09-2005, 07:53
It was a dream for me to go to the UK and watch the Gunners roar.
adams9802
19-09-2005, 11:17
LOL! Is it that bad? Well...I'd do it if I was in the country! Never been to match yet...so I'm gagging for it! What's the best way to get a ticket these days? And not pay through me teeth for it? :ohmy:
I'm sure it won't be that bad. Just wear a jacket and walk swiftly ;) I am a Red Member so tickets weren't so bad 35 Pounds for Everton and Thun, but I had to pay a bit to see Charlton vs Chelski and West Ham away was well over 100 pounds....but is was well worth it, I don't reckon I'll be coming back to London for a few anyways.
Arsenal 2-0 Everton H/T
Campbell X2.
Yeah...good old Sol! Classic Tony Adams!
BTW...is it really that expensive to see a game? What about an away game in London? I do visit, but rarely...so that'll be the only chance. What is the best way to get tickets? Would appreciate your advice guys!
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jthk2004
20-09-2005, 20:03
What is the best way to get tickets? Would appreciate your advice guys!
i think it's very hard to purchase a ticket for arsenal home games (at least for this season) as u know highbury is small and arsenal fans are queuing up for a ticket... u gotta be a season ticket holder or u never have the chance to go there. for away games, i heard that arsenal sell it to the season ticket holders first... then if there are any unwanted it will be sold to public...
Bummer...
BTW...heard the news from The Sun? We are going to pay 7M for Papa Dioup of Fulham to solve our mid-field problems....say what?!!?!?!? HAHAHAHA! I like that...HOPEFULLY it is not true...
jthk2004
21-09-2005, 05:50
Bummer...
BTW...heard the news from The Sun? We are going to pay 7M for Papa Dioup of Fulham to solve our mid-field problems....say what?!!?!?!? HAHAHAHA! I like that...HOPEFULLY it is not true...
i certainly don't believe it... why waste money on that guy? he is from senegal as well but his style is different from vieira. we have enough young talent in midfield. what we need now is a classy defender. newcastle's steven taylor looks good for us partnering sol campbell or kolo toure. but u just never know what wenger thinks...
thought wenger would never purchase anyone above 26 yrs old ? but anyway bouba diop woiuld be a really good signing for arsenal , he oculd solve arsenal's midfield problem . he's really that good
Gunner get £7m Papa
ARSENE WENGER is ready to splash out £7million on Fulham midfielder Papa Bouba Diop.
Arsenal’s boss has told the Highbury board he needs fresh blood to stop the Gunners fading against Chelsea and Manchester United.
And he wants Diop, 25, to replace Patrick Vieira and make up for missing out on Julio Baptista.
Vieira’s fellow Senegalese midfielder has become a huge hit in just over a year at Craven Cottage.
Fulham boss Chris Coleman fended off Everton by slapping an £8m tag on the World Cup star.
From the reputable THE SUN... Not sure if Pier69 is being sarcastic or not! LOL!