Arsenal

[Scarface]

Yeah, we did well. Good solid performance, Toure and Flamini were magnificent, in fact, most of the team deserve credit for a professional performance. Clichy was dodgy, but Toure and Cygan more than made up for that with solid defending. We're looking like a team who suddenly knows a thing or two about how to play in Europe, hopefully it'll continue when we come up against tougher European opposition.

2 awesome goals by Henry which means he is now Arsenal's leading goalscorer of all time :)

[pokey]

clichy looked short on confidence today...
good performance from Pires, what you sayin to that Reyes?

[Scarface]

clichy looked short on confidence today...
good performance from Pires, what you sayin to that Reyes?

He was still lazy, little or no tracking back when Clichy needed cover which could have cost us against top opposition. I'm not questioning his quality, actually, me critisizing him is partly to do with his quality, he is one of the most talented footballers i've ever seen, but his attitude of late has stunk. He was alright tonight, few good passes here and there, still think he could do much, much more, though.

Arsenal goals here:
http://goalscorner.com/mm2005-2006/CL/3/arsenal-sparta.zip

[adams9802]

He was still lazy, little or no tracking back when Clichy needed cover which could have cost us against top opposition. I'm not questioning his quality, actually, me critisizing him is partly to do with his quality, he is one of the most talented footballers i've ever seen, but his attitude of late has stunk. He was alright tonight, few good passes here and there, still think he could do much, much more, though.

Arsenal goals here:
http://goalscorner.com/mm2005-2006/CL/3/arsenal-sparta.zip
I agree with everything you have said about Pires, he just lazy right now. Perhaps he's just pissed off about almost getting shipped off to Turkey. I certainly would be.

Also why are the goals to rap music? Kinda wierd.:mellow:

[Scarface]

Also why is the goals to rap music? Kinda wierd.:mellow:

Haha, dunno, I didn't make it, but it's the only link I can find to the goals at the moment.

[nobby04]

Arsenal dont half rely on Terry henry, when hes not playing the taxi is normally waiting.

[adams9802]

Arsenal dont half rely on Terry henry, when hes not playing the taxi is normally waiting.
What? Is this some sort of British saying?

[Del_piero71]

He was still lazy, little or no tracking back when Clichy needed cover which could have cost us against top opposition. I'm not questioning his quality, actually, me critisizing him is partly to do with his quality, he is one of the most talented footballers i've ever seen, but his attitude of late has stunk. He was alright tonight, few good passes here and there, still think he could do much, much more, though.

Arsenal goals here:
http://goalscorner.com/mm2005-2006/CL/3/arsenal-sparta.zip
I would also have to agree, I used to be a big Pires fan, but nowadays he looks like he'd rather be somewhere else, not necessarily another club but maybe eating in a french restaurant or doing more Puma ads, he almost looks as though he's lost his love for the game. I think it's time he went and played in Quatar like every other 30plus has-been footballer.

[Alcoholic]

Yeah, we did well. Good solid performance, Toure and Flamini were magnificent, in fact, most of the team deserve credit for a professional performance. Clichy was dodgy, but Toure and Cygan more than made up for that with solid defending. We're looking like a team who suddenly knows a thing or two about how to play in Europe, hopefully it'll continue when we come up against tougher European opposition.

2 awesome goals by Henry which means he is now Arsenal's leading goalscorer of all time :)

Hopefully twill be an upturn in league fortunes aswell.

[Yi-Long]

Sad to see Reyes limp off... any word yet on how long he'll be out?

[Alcoholic]

Sad to see Reyes limp off... any word yet on how long he'll be out?

Hope tis not too long...

[Nturtle]

Well...hopefully not a full broken ribs thing. Thanks for the link Reyes!

Great to see a good score! Now we just gotta concentrate more and finish games off!

Coming on Clichy!! Your chance to shine!!

[Scarface]

Sad to see Reyes limp off... any word yet on how long he'll be out?

Well it's not a cracked rib as first feared, so shouldn't be out for too long, hopefully will only miss the Man City game this weekend.

[Nturtle]

Shame for Reyes but I think he really has improved - hopefully this also includes playing with Henry! At the end of th day...there MUST be a kind of team spirit for them to pass to each other so well - it doesn't matter who scores!

Let's see an improved Arsenal TEAM at Man City with or without Henry!!

[Ronaldo_is_fat]

Arsenal is back and Henry is back!

[Alcoholic]

Henry is the one whos back, dont speak too soon.

[Viperized]

Well it's not a cracked rib as first feared, so shouldn't be out for too long, hopefully will only miss the Man City game this weekend.
I think Reyes may play in the Carling Cup. But Wenger has said he is going to give Campbell a run in the Carling Cup though.

I think this may be a good line-up to use against Man City:

.................Lehmann...... ................

Lauren....Toure.....Senderos.. ...Clichy

Van Persie...Fabregas...Gilberto.. Pires

...........Bergkamp.....Henry. .............

I thinks its going to be 2-0 to us.

[Ronaldo_is_fat]

I think Reyes may play in the Carling Cup. But Wenger has said he is going to give Campbell a run in the Carling Cup though.

I think this may be a good line-up to use against Man City:

.................Lehmann...... ................

Lauren....Toure.....Senderos.. ...Clichy

Van Persie...Fabregas...Gilberto.. Pires

...........Bergkamp.....Henry. .............

I thinks its going to be 2-0 to us.
Hmm van Persie on the wing!?

[Alcoholic]

Does seem a little retarded...

[pokey]

quincy on the wing... we need pace on the wings

[Scarface]

Van Persie can be dangerous on the wing, but I think it'd be better if he changed flanks with Pires there. Quincy and Eboue both looked impressive when they came on against Sparta, Eboue particularly.

[Nturtle]

I've always thought Eboue to be class...and better than Lauren nowadays...although Lauren's penalties are super!

I'd like to see Eboue and Quincy on the wings in the Carling cup...and Lupoli/Bendtner up front!

[pokey]

any of yous hear the comentator bummin lauren?
he was goin on as if he was player of the century :P

[Scarface]

any of yous hear the comentator bummin lauren?
he was goin on as if he was player of the century :P

David Pleat loves him, a match doesn't go by without him going on about him being the best attacking right back in England.


Pires embarrassed himself and Arsenal today again. Just wait until you see our 2nd penalty miss today, fucking ridiculous. Thank christ that didn't cost us 2 points, but the fact that we were even trying that in the 72nd minute of a match we were only winning 1-0 and after our disastrous start to the season is ludicrous.

Average performance, but at least we got the 3 points.

[uA - 1905]

That was an awesome penalty by Pires

[adams9802]

David Pleat loves him, a match doesn't go by without him going on about him being the best attacking right back in England.


Pires embarrassed himself and Arsenal today again. Just wait until you see our 2nd penalty miss today, fucking ridiculous. Thank christ that didn't cost us 2 points, but the fact that we were even trying that in the 72nd minute of a match we were only winning 1-0 and after our disastrous start to the season is ludicrous.

Average performance, but at least we got the 3 points.
Disgusting by Bob. Drop him , then ship him off ASAP. IDIOT! I'm sick of his shitty performances, his arrogance and his self percived value to the squad.

[Yi-Long]

Well, the idea behind the penalty was good, IF IT's DONE WELL. Sadly, Pires fucked it up somehow, not quite sure how that was possible either, so it's a huge big-ass blunder. But if it would have gone well, it's pretty much a sure goal...
Besides, it was supposedly Henry's idea, although obviously he would have thought Pires could have at least touched the ball in a non-feminine way so it would move a bit ;)

Anyway, Liverpool dropped points again, as did man Utd, so pretty good week for Arsenal...

[pier69]

buy papa bouba man , he's really good . a good replacement for patrick vieira , he's consistent and always everywhere in the pitch and always does his best

[pokey]

any of yous seen yaya toure play?
i watched him in champs league other day and he didnt really do anything... (just highlights mind) he seemed to not really be interested in the ball and was not getting stuck in... not that were gona sign him but i remember comeon saying summin about him...

[Viperized]

Hmm van Persie on the wing!?
Yeah. He plays there for Holland so why not for us?

I'd also like to say Pires SHOULD be dropped. I was like 'what the fuck is he doing?' when he done that. He didn't really do anything in the match other than taking those two penalties. I'm glad Henry will be taking the penalties now.

[Canadian, Eh?]

Disgusting by Bob. Drop him , then ship him off ASAP. IDIOT! I'm sick of his shitty performances, his arrogance and his self percived value to the squad.

Erm, it was Henry's idea to do the penalty that way.

But all in all it showed no class even pulling that off in a 1-0 lead that we hardly deserved. I can see pulling that crap in a 4-0 or 5-0 lead but in 1-0 in a tight game it was bad.

Also on the day the game looked like Italian football, lots of fouls,cards and complaining.

Not a great show of football.

But three points is three points, to next week against the Spuds who will be a formatable foe.

[Nturtle]

Yup....three points...and nice to see Chelsea only get a draw for once. We need to be much cleverer and be more convincing. Wonder why Cygan is still in there instead of Senderos? Maybe a rest from the internationals?

[pokey]

because if you ask me ctgan is more consisttent than senderos who is a good prospect but not quite cutting it at premiership level... plus is he not injured? back problem or summin?
i reckon cygan is underrated, fair dos hes not the best deffender and i am not filled with the confidence in him which toure and campbell give me on the team sheet!

[Canadian, Eh?]

Cygan gives me absolutely zero confidence because he only has one foot. He might as well cut off his right leg in general, the man has to play everything to the left foot which usually leads to a opponent getting the ball away from him.

Sure he scored two goals, sure he has been more consistent than Senderos in the league, but thats because Senderos has internationals and Cygan couldn't even crack the Trinidad and Tobago starting XI.

[Nturtle]

LOL...ok...maybe we give Cygan too much stick...but truth be told...doesn't he give you shivers sometimes!?!?! HAHA!

Well, let's hope the youngsters can have fun and win at Sunderland!

[nikos24]

I do wish Arsenal buy Seitaridis or Chivu, i would love them to be at Arsenal. Hopefully even Charisteas along with Henry, ;). would be awesome for me. Unfortunately, i dont have the power to do that. :(. Do you fans know the closest source that i can email the Arsenal board? I would love to give my suggestions to them regarding transfers and why exactly, hope you can help.

btw, Well done Arsenal. And just wtf was Pires trying to do? Shame.

[methical]

i know what you mean, that penalty was rediculous, i saw that on motd and i switched, WTF ARE YOU DOIN PIRES but thankfully we ran out 1 - 0 winners, why didnt henry just take the stupid penaly in the first place

i was hopin we would have signed chivu in the summer, and i knew we would need another striker and midfielder, im really shocked at arsene for not buying when we clearly needed it, proven all season worst of all at west brom, there are loads of players out there we could have got theres really no excuse

we need more homegrown players aswell anyway and newcastle seemed like they didnt want us to have jenas, even owen would have been a good signing

[Scarface]

I feared at the end of last season that our good form would be the undoing of us this season, as Wenger would be deceived into thinking our defence was solid as we claimed so many clean sheets with Senderos in the team, but it was obvious to most fans our whole team needed strengthening. Chivu and Seitaridis would be excellent signings, both young and extremely talented. Hopefully Seitaridis, like Maniche, is discontent with life in Russia and will look for a move back to a top European club. I think we should aim for someone better than Charisteas to partner Henry, but the other 2 would really improve our defence.

[methical]

maniche would be a good signing too, i forgot about that guy he was awesome for porto, him and gilberto or fabregas would be alot stronger than what we have now so im glad to hear he doesnt like russia (who would)
i also like snejder and hed fit in well as an arsenal player

i said this a year ago and people didnt agree but i think we missed wiltord because he was versitile and good in all his positions and scored when henry was missing, now with vieira and edu gone im baffled by us not signing midfielders

[Yi-Long]

Nikos: have you seen Charisteas at Ajax? Not really Arsenal material! He's hardly good enough for the Dutch Eredivisie right now!

Chiwu would be a great signing though. I've seen him since his first matches for Ajax and even back then at such a young age, he was already showing such a maturity and leadership, and pretty much flawless in what he does. Certainly one of the best defenders in the world right now, plus he has a good pass and a good freekick/shot.

Never heard of Seitaridus.... what position does he play?

Actually, I do agree with Wenger that the team he has right now is (in theory) a good enough team to challenge for the championship. It's a good combination of young talent as well as older experienced players. We could use a better keeper though, and a guy who takes leadership on the field, but when looking only at footballing skillz, Arsenal has a great team.

However, Wenger has a tendency to field players in the wrong position, like he's doing with Hleb, and he has done with Reyes... plus, I feel he should always field Bergkamp so you have that connection between midfield and the forwards, as well as a guy on the pitch who will ALWAYS create chances and hardly ever loses the ball, which relaxes the team a bit, as they often seem a bit anxious and nervous whenever Dennis isnt playing...
Van Persie should be filling that role in the future, and he has done well so far, but he isnt on Dennis' level YET, so Dennis should play...

Wenger is a bit too stubborn at times for his own good. As soon as he decides a player is good enough for this level, he will keep fielding him, even when the player is still too unsteady in his performances... and as soon as he has written off a player because of age or whatever, he stops looking at the skillz, and just focusses on the age-thing and his prejudiced ideas about older players, and stops fielding them. We might have won a few more prices the last 5 years if Wenger would have played Dennis more often, instead of going for lesser forwards like Suker, Wiltort, etc.

Anyway, back on topic... if wenger would just play the people in their right position, and would field the best players instead of the players who should grow out to be great players, but are at the moment still to inconsistent, we could play our brilliant own style again, which for me is the greatest loss. I don't really mind losing, if Arsenal at least attempt the quick passing/position play they can do so well... and I don't care for winning if they play like shit. Who cares about Arsenal winning if they won by a fucking penalty and were playing shite all match long? (I'm sure many care, but I wouldnt mind Arsenal being 2nd in the premier league, when they DID play the best, most beautifull football...)

Ah well, every club and every team has it's ups and downs... it's certainly not the end of the world if we go through a little dip once in a while... so will Chelsea, so did Man Utd ...

...all I ask is good, nice players that get along well, stand together as a strong team, and play good, attractive and positive football... :)

[methical]

well said, im not sure about the suker or wiltord part though coz therre was a period where suker was playing fantastic football and wiltord had his moments and even kanu was overlooked too much but they could all play along with dennis but now is reyes a goalscorer, no he isnt and when henry isnt around we dont have a finisher right now

we need a good 4 - 7 players in that team, we might have done more to get essien if chelsea didnt have so much financial power coz i dont think lyon would have pushed for that much if it was only arsenal offering 10 or 12 million, with chelsea and real madrid having so much money and going for players we want its gonna be hard for us but hopefully we can do some good in the transfer window, i think henry might want to leave if we dont strengthen this team right now, we need a keeper (kirkland is looking good)
defender (chivu would be nice)
midfielders (im a big fan of maniche and snejder)
striker (cassano or torres but im not sure itll happen)

the biggest worry is that wenger likes unknowns and it isnt paying off right now

[Nturtle]

Chivu is certainly an interesting one - but can he be prised away?

I think we have to trust Mr. Wenger...and let the boys have a go (how many times have I said that?). Certainly some depth doesn't do any harm though - I would think a tall TARGET man would be useful, no matter if he is a striker or mid-fielder...maybe Ryan BABEL of Ajax?

I still like the team we have - VP surely will make a great player soon.

[Scarface]

Chivu is certainly an interesting one - but can he be prised away?

I think we have to trust Mr. Wenger...and let the boys have a go (how many times have I said that?). Certainly some depth doesn't do any harm though - I would think a tall TARGET man would be useful, no matter if he is a striker or mid-fielder...maybe Ryan BABEL of Ajax?

I still like the team we have - VP surely will make a great player soon.

He's at AS Roma, so we have a realistic chance of signing him if we make a good offer. Problem is Roma have that complicated transfer ban at the moment, so i'm not sure how easy it is at the moment.

I agree with Yi-Long, he is an incredible defender, one of the top 5 in Europe for me. He leads the defence, times his tackles perfectly and has great ability on the ball that even Rio Ferdinand would dream of having. Could take some of our set-pieces too, man i'd love us to sign that guy :wub:

[Nturtle]

Heh heh...it's too bad I've never seen Chivu really play...shame! He sounds fantastic! I only know from my PES/WE games....he ain't a pretty boy for certain...but then again...Hleb isn't either! HA!

It would be great to have some leadership on the pitch as someone has mentioned...I think we can get some home-grown talent in though. What a shame to hand it to Henry if he leaves soon...but in my mind...the team just need to play well...and he can be convinced to stay with a good 2nd place again or a Champions League win! Optimism knows no bounds!

[nikos24]

well said, im not sure about the suker or wiltord part though coz therre was a period where suker was playing fantastic football and wiltord had his moments and even kanu was overlooked too much but they could all play along with dennis but now is reyes a goalscorer, no he isnt and when henry isnt around we dont have a finisher right now

we need a good 4 - 7 players in that team, we might have done more to get essien if chelsea didnt have so much financial power coz i dont think lyon would have pushed for that much if it was only arsenal offering 10 or 12 million, with chelsea and real madrid having so much money and going for players we want its gonna be hard for us but hopefully we can do some good in the transfer window, i think henry might want to leave if we dont strengthen this team right now, we need a keeper (kirkland is looking good)
defender (chivu would be nice)
midfielders (im a big fan of maniche and snejder)
striker (cassano or torres but im not sure itll happen)

the biggest worry is that wenger likes unknowns and it isnt paying off right now

You are right. The only thing i disagree there mate is Kirkland. I dont think Arsenal should get him, honestly. I always thought of him as promising, but when i see him play, he has been rather dissapointing. I know a better keeper trust me, and im sure Mr. Wenger would like him, Mickael Landreau. He is one heck of a goalkeeper, he is young too, and very good. Plus he is obviously French, they type of players Mr.Wenger likes. He is at AS Nantes, if only i was Wenger im sure i can tempt him to play at Arsenal. Lehmann isnt just convincing for me at times. Landreau is, ;). Chivu can be a very good defensive midfielder and could replace Vieira's boots. Maniche is also good, it will take him some time at Arsenal, but will grow to become an awesome player. Cassano or Torres (better and compatriot of Reyes, will help him motivate too, and Reyes can teach Torres more more about English football and the life, like what Drogba did with Essien, and will fit perfectly) at Arsenal will be awesome!!

Btw Yi-Long, Giourkas Seitaridis, RB of Greece and Dinamo Moskova. 23 years old. Golden boots. On his CL debut scored a 30 yard cracker against Man.U. Played several European games so has the experience. Excellent during Euro 04. Stopped Pauleta, Henry, Baros, Koller, C.Ronaldo on the way. Thats just a brief intro about him. Trust me, he could be Arsenal material. :)

[Viperized]

Ah yes. Chelsea are out of the Carling Cup!!

Maybe we'll win it this year. The only real threat I see is Man utd I guess ;P

Eboue's goal was fantastic. Great shot from 30 yards in the top corner. Good to see Van Persie scored twice - hopefully he'll partner Henry against Sp*rs. He is always on the bench when I think he should be playing.

I too would love to see Chivu play for us. He is a great defender and is quite good at taking free kicks too. I'd like to see these players, if possible:

Issaskon (Lehmann is most likely going to retire next season)
Sneijder
Chivu
Torres

[nikos24]

Ah yes. Chelsea are out of the Carling Cup!!

Maybe we'll win it this year. The only real threat I see is Man utd I guess ;P

Eboue's goal was fantastic. Great shot from 30 yards in the top corner. Good to see Van Persie scored twice - hopefully he'll partner Henry against Sp*rs. He is always on the bench when I think he should be playing.

I too would love to see Chivu play for us. He is a great defender and is quite good at taking free kicks too. I'd like to see these players, if possible:

Issaskon (Lehmann is most likely going to retire next season)
Sneijder
Chivu
Torres

yes, i think Arsenal will win the Carling Cup. Issakson too would be a great addition to Arsenal's GK's. i think they could get him honestly, he plays in Rennais in France, its mighty possible. Definitely not Almunia. Landreau too will be great.

[Yi-Long]

Btw Yi-Long, Giourkas Seitaridis, RB of Greece and Dinamo Moskova. 23 years old. Golden boots. On his CL debut scored a 30 yard cracker against Man.U. Played several European games so has the experience. Excellent during Euro 04. Stopped Pauleta, Henry, Baros, Koller, C.Ronaldo on the way. Thats just a brief intro about him. Trust me, he could be Arsenal material. :)

Thanks man, sounds promising.

Anyway, I also feel PSV's Gomez would be an awesome goalkeeper for Arsenal. He's been outstanding ever since his arrival, and has repeatedly made miracle saves in big games, among others against AC Milan. He's still pretty young I guess, a big flexible guy, and a good penalty-stopper as well... He's Brasil's no2 Goalkeeper I believe.
He's also a very nice guy, and doesnt do stupid stuff like mouthing off or acting like a prick, as Lehman occasionally does.

People mention Wesley Sneijder as possible Arsenal material, but I would prefer Vd Vaart over Sneijder I think. Both are amazingly talented though, so I certainly wouldnt mind Sneijder joining Arsenal, but at the moment Vd Vaart is amazing in the Bundesliga (although, at the moment he's sitting out a 3 match ban...)
Scored a bunch of VERY impressive goals, is always playing well, a bit of a leader on the pitch (which is what Arsenal needs in midfield, a vocal leader that leads by example) and just in great form...

I blame Vd Vaart's dip of last season and the season before on Koeman. Koeman didnt get along well with many players, nor did he improve them... so many players were unhappy at ajax last season and before... plus vd vaart is a creative player that needs his trainer's confidence to perform well, which was obviously lacking with Koeman...

[Nturtle]

Ah yes. Chelsea are out of the Carling Cup!!

Maybe we'll win it this year. The only real threat I see is Man utd I guess ;P

Eboue's goal was fantastic. Great shot from 30 yards in the top corner. Good to see Van Persie scored twice - hopefully he'll partner Henry against Sp*rs. He is always on the bench when I think he should be playing.

I too would love to see Chivu play for us. He is a great defender and is quite good at taking free kicks too. I'd like to see these players, if possible:

Issaskon (Lehmann is most likely going to retire next season)
Sneijder
Chivu
Torres

Yeah...good stuff - anybody got the vids?

[Viperized]

Sagnol may be leaving Bayern Munich on a free transfer this season, and he said his favourite club is Arsenal. He could be a realistic target. The only RB better than Lauren (who is very underated) I can think of. It would be nice to get him.

[Figо10]

Gunners in £16.5million striker link

Arsenal are willing to pay £16.5million for Villarreal striker Diego Forlan according to the Uruguayan media.

The top scorer of last season's Spanish league still has a contract with the Spanish club for another four years, but it is likely that he will move to a bigger club at the end of the season.

Arsenal striker Thierry Henry has suggested leaving the London based club unless he links up with another world class striker, and Forlan is a player that he has recommended to Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger.
Arsenal going for a United reject :laugh:

[Scarface]

Sagnol would be a great free signing, I think Seitaridis is a better right back, but signing a right back of Sagnol's quality for free would certainly be good business. Emanuel Eboue could make the right back spot his own over the next couple of seasons, though.

Arsenal going for a United reject :laugh:

No chance in hell of that happening.

[jthk2004]

A fan has beaten Arsene Wenger to buying the appartment built on the spot of the Highbury dugout when the stadium is converted into flats next season.
it's me, i reckon...

[Nturtle]

I think we won't be buying forlan...I HOPE not anyway! I do see us trying something in the January transfer period though - a single player I think, possibly mid-field...

Everyone seen Man U scouting Yaya Toure? LOL...I reckon he should join up with his bro at Arsenal some time soon! But Wnger is probably smart...letting him get lots of experience outside...then plucking him back for Arsenal!

[Viperized]

Why would we want a Man Utd reject + Premiership flop?

[Nturtle]

ARgh...playing crap in the first half...vs Totenham...and typically...a header by King...puts them ahead...grrrr can't even pass!

EDIT - wow...an intense derby. Totenham deserved something for it...but I felt we only became "Arsenal" at the very end...we should ALWAYS play like we are losing I think...too comfotable we are.

Give Pires some credit this time...he has some good work done with his experience...finally.

VP should probably start now...maybe take Flamini off...have Gilberto (who played poorly today) and Cesc in the middle, with Reyes and Ljungberg on the wings - Bergkamp and VP or Henry and VP.

Such a shame we were overawed in the first half.

[Viperized]

Van Persie should defintely be in the starting lineup instead of the bench.

[adams9802]

Well done for whatever the team talk was, although I think the majority was down to Pires coming on. WE looked far better at going forward better balance.that said we were very lucky not to lose all things considered, Campbell played like poo as did Toure. I agree Van Persie should start now as he looked the sharpest player on the entire pitch.Hopefully this a turn in our season, or atleast until the winter break.

[pokey]

we're apparently monitering Diego Forlan... on sky sports website.
thoughts?

[Nturtle]

we're apparently monitering Diego Forlan... on sky sports website.
thoughts?
I think we saw this on a previous page pokey. Unfortunately...most of us think it is a laugh! Having said that...he was golden boot with Henry...so you can't knock him too much. Maybe Arsenal needs a positional player and someone who is always in the box like him, Owen Van Nistrooy etc. WE cetainly don't...except maybe Lupoli or Bendtner but they don't get to play much in the first team.

[pokey]

o ok np lol, didnt notice it :S

im undecided due to how mince he was at utd, but you dont fluke the golden boot...

[Viperized]

We are not linked with him. Check Skysports. I cant be bothered to provide a link :P

[pokey]

but we were lihnked with him... of course the guy from villareal is gona be saying that...

[Viperized]

but we were lihnked with him... of course the guy from villareal is gona be saying that...
I highly doubt Wenger would want to buy him out of all the strikers in the world, and Wenger doesn't usually reveal his targets.

[pokey]

hopefully he has a well devised bid for Torres waiting in the wings :D (please if there is a God)

[Mighty Joe]

Please do sumting Wenger! I trust you'll perform your usual magic!

at least 2 or 3 players will be needed to save this season!

[Nturtle]

hopefully he has a well devised bid for Torres waiting in the wings :D (please if there is a God)

LOL...personally...I think it is in the works. He keeps playing Reyes to settle him and show Torres that he's welcome too!!!!

Then again...VP is getting there....hopefully he'll come good this season as well!:D

[methical]

i dont get why van persie doesnt start when henry is out coz he is the only person in the squad who can play that role, and never ever use fabregas on the wings again please boss.

chivu would be ideal i think with maniche and snejder, we need more squad players and i think those 3 can do us sso much

isnt there going to be a rule about the forigners in the future, if so we might be in a bit of trouble

[Nturtle]

Hopefully the boss listens methical!

BTW - the "homegrown" thing is the next step, so by that time lads like Fabregas will have trained with Arsenal long enough not to be considered foreign (I think).

[accessgranted]

A Van Persie brace in the final ten minutes.

<3

Time for Van Persie to be starting more matches, he's been great this year.

[Ronaldo_is_fat]

Van Persie doesn't link up with Henry well and Bergkamp was favored as the partnership with Henry.

[Yi-Long]

Van Persie about his goal...

Henry said Van Persie's 81st-minute breakthrough was great - but his replacement revealed it was 'a bit poor'.

The Dutchman explained: 'With the first goal my first touch was a bit poor - so that's why I had to run round the defenders.'

Probably why ronaldo and maradonna do all those long dribles where they have to go past several defenders: poor first touch - mediocre players! :D

Anyway, great goals, and great result. Too bad Bergkamp squandered a couple of nice chances ...

[Ronaldo_is_fat]

Anybody got the HL for the game?

[Scarface]

Van Persie doesn't link up with Henry well and Bergkamp was favored as the partnership with Henry.

I think van Persie links up well with Henry, it's probably our best partnership currently.


http://sportcorner.ws/main/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=1196

Clips of all 3 goals in high quality, just copy the red writing and press enter.

[Nturtle]

Well..thought Bergy was unlucky...open goal....but then again...we got away with it! Henry's was brilliant...I thought it just went wide...there wasn't much reaction by Sparta!!!

VP has a great attitude now...and starting vs super sub...it doesn't really matter for him. Sometimes being a fresh counterpart to Henry/Bergkamp/Reyes might be good for the game and he does add some urgency to things.

Arsenal should blood some more players in the Champions league then, and then that allows for focus back on the league. We've got to get back in touch with Chelsea.

Personally...ManU might have a chance on Sunday...a good comeback. Let's see!

[Ronaldo_is_fat]

We played alot better compared to the game with Tottenham. I can see that Pires is finding is form, he did some tricks and nutmegs in the right wing. Reyes did pretty well too with a nice back heel assist well i doubt that his target was to Henry some how.
Almunia didn't look too assuring to me and we were a bit lucky that we didn't concede any goals. The main reason was that our opponents had over 10 shots but only 1 or 2 hit the target.

[Nturtle]

Reyes did pretty well too with a nice back heel assist well i doubt that his target was to Henry some how.


LOL Ronaldo...you must surely be a pessimist! I think all your comments have validity...but come on...soccer is a TEAM game...I doubt players in the Arsenal squad DELIBERATELY NOT pass to people!! It was a nice touch by Reyes...and he DID work hard all night.

You're right about Almunia - Jekyll and Hyde I call him - sometimes great...sometimes fluffy...the worst was in THAT ManU game...practically jumping out of the way of some shots!!

We did good as a team...lucky not to have conceeded 2 set pieces.

Time for us to move and shake ourselves up the league table!!!:D

[Ronaldo_is_fat]

A classy performance against Sunderland 3-1, Henry sealed it for us.




LOL Ronaldo...you must surely be a pessimist! I think all your comments have validity...but come on...soccer is a TEAM game...I doubt players in the Arsenal squad DELIBERATELY NOT pass to people!! It was a nice touch by Reyes...and he DID work hard all night.
Well maybe but I was just trying to make my point clear though.

[Nturtle]

HAH! Point taken Ronaldo!

Yes - good win - only saw first half...missed the overhead super strike that almost made it! Damn! Not good conceding though...but I guess that is part of the game. Going into the international break...it's good to see some confidence back.

[Scarface]

Yes - good win - only saw first half...missed the overhead super strike that almost made it! Damn! Not good conceding though...but I guess that is part of the game. Going into the international break...it's good to see some confidence back.

Henry's overhead kick (http://www2.rapidupload.com/d.php?file=dl&filepath=945)

Henry's 2nd goal (http://www3.rapidupload.com/d.php?file=dl&filepath=2493)

[martin_cranie]

Patrick Vieira has launched an astonishing attack on Ruud van Nistelrooy in his new autobiography, as revealed by the News of the World, where he calls the Manchester United striker a cheat and a coward.

Take it away Paddy: "Everyone thinks he is a nice guy but, in fact, he's a son of a bitch. He has a history of incidents that all too often have gone unnoticed."

Keep reading, it only gets better: "He has punched Freddie Ljungberg and elbowed Lauren. At Arsenal, we hated him and had real reason to do so.

I can't stand the sight of Van Nistelrooy. He's a great player and has proved himself time and time again, but everything about him annoys me. He's always complaining and whingeing.

There are some players I respect, despite the fact they'll stick the boot in, because I can sense there is no malice.

They are not hiding what they are doing. Paul Scholes gives as good as he gets, won't complain, won't moan and roll around on the ground. He gives, he takes.

Van Nistelrooy, on the other hand, is deceitful as well as being a nasty piece of work.

In September 2003, I was sent off at Old Trafford after a second yellow card as a result of an incident with him.

I got shafted. Just thinking about it makes my blood boil.

He tried to stamp on me and then he made more of the challenge than he should have done. I am not blaming the referee. He got shafted, too.

I never intended to touch Van Nistelrooy and did not deserve a red card. The way he laid it on annoyed me even more.

After the game, I was standing with a friend in the tunnel when Van Nistelrooy walked past. We looked at each other. He tried to talk to me and I told him that it was finished and I had nothing more to say.

But he persisted. So I asked if I had touched him. He simply replied: "You have no class." That was the icing on the cake. He was trying to convince himself that he had not cheated, which just showed he did not have a clear conscience.

I said: "Watch it, or I'm going to land one on you."

We were on the verge of fisticuffs but Mikael Silvestre, Fabien Barthez and Robert Pires got there just in time and intervened. This altercation confirmed my view that not only is Van Nistelrooy a cheat, he lacks courage.

The Dutchman missed a penalty in that match and Ray Parlour, Lauren and Martin Keown jumped on him. Arsenal were criticised for this and it is true that it does not make pretty viewing.

Injustice was a feeling we experienced all too often when we faced them. Even the last two matches I had against United give rise to bad memories. There was a notorious game in November 2004 - we were unbeaten in 49 matches and were well and truly robbed of the 50th.

I still find it hard to believe. If we had conducted ourselves like United we would have been down to eight men.

Rio Ferdinand fouled Freddie and should have been sent off, but did not even receive a yellow card. Wayne Rooney dived and cheated blatantly to win their penalty. I had not forgotten any of this when the return match came round in February.

Every time we played United, Gary Neville acted tough. We were always on the receiving end and his behaviour towards Jose in October had been unacceptable.

So that night I said to him: "Every time you foul the guys, I'm going to be watching you. If you do it, I'm going to sort you out.'

Yes, it was intimidation - but I hadn't planned to say it. Roy Keane got involved, which did not surprise me. He is their captain, so his job is to defend their players.

He told me to leave Neville alone and that if I had a problem, I should talk to him. I didn't have a problem with him. Keane was the toughest midfielder I did battle with in England.

When you compare his courage and behaviour on the pitch with Van Nistelrooy and Neville, it's like night and day."

Ha ha couldn't have put it better myself. I wonder what old horse-face will think about that eh?

[Nturtle]

Henry's overhead kick (http://www2.rapidupload.com/d.php?file=dl&filepath=945)

Henry's 2nd goal (http://www3.rapidupload.com/d.php?file=dl&filepath=2493)

You da man Reyes! Cheers! :cool:

And yes Martin...that's really funny! Good on ManU to beat Chelsea last night too! First time I have cheered for our arch enemies!

[Scarface]

I'll definitely be getting Paddy's autobiography, when's it released? Would make a nice Xmas present for times when I have a rest from playing on the xbox360 :cool:

[Ronaldo_is_fat]

lol, that was a something hilarious to read from! But i am pondering why he hates Ljungberg?

[Nturtle]

lol, that was a something hilarious to read from! But i am pondering why he hates Ljungberg?

Cos Freddie gets to wear CK undies!!!

And LOL Reyes...I don't know how you are going to put down that Xbox360...but it is sure to be an interesting read!:laugh:

[Ronaldo_is_fat]

Is Viera scared of Keane? haha, that would be funny......

Xbox360= pwnage

[pier69]

is arsenal gonna buy papa bouba diop ? cuz he's like one of the best players in premiership now and many clubs are after him

[jthk2004]

Going into the international break...it's good to see some confidence back.
we'd better get the international break as wigan are really rocking now... but we can beat anyone if henry is playing...

[Nturtle]

WEll...hopefully we'll learn from our past mistakes...field some hungry youngsters...and they'll REALLY fight for a win!

[Ronaldo_is_fat]

I'll rather like to see Quincy getting more chances, that boy's got the potential to be alot better than Freddy.

Would Kuijt be a solution for our inbox striker problem?

[pokey]

have a word... freddies much better than quincy at the mo... so lets get all the game we can out of freddy eh? quincy shouldnt be starting if the starting 11 is fully fit.

[accessgranted]

http://www.sportnetwork.net/main/s342/st85113.htm?fromrss=1

o.O

I don't believe it.

[martin_cranie]

Cool. I don't know a huge amount about him, but from the little i have to go on he's a good signing.

[jthk2004]

let's see how vela comes out... but we do netta buy torres in january to have any chance to win the champions league... reyes is lacking confidence and falling to the ground too easy...

[accessgranted]

It's appearing everywhere except the Arsenal website.

Why has the Arsenal website not reported any of this?

How can it really be confirmed until then?

PS: Lupoli got a hat-trick for the reserves. :)

[AgentZero]

whats all this talk of ye gooners going to sign F.Torres in the jan window???

[Viperized]

The Sun claims we will bid £20 million for Torres.

[Nturtle]

Well...we shall see I think. Would be great for us and gives us a bit more depth!

[ThierryHenry14]

what a funny coincidence i am thinking of buying torres on pes5

[Ronaldo_is_fat]

Who will be more suitable for us Kuijt or Fernando Torres? Fellow Gooners, I wanna hear your views!

[Pell]

It seems as if we've signed Carlos Vela for a fee of around £2 million pounds. The last time we spent £2 million on a teenager, he ended up ruining his ability. Yes, that's you, Jermaine Pennant.

Links are here (http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2005520228,00.html) and here. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/4422984.stm)

[Viperized]

It seems as if we've signed Carlos Vela for a fee of around £2 million pounds. The last time we spent £2 million on a teenager, he ended up ruining his ability. Yes, that's you, Jermaine Pennant.

Links are here (http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2005520228,00.html) and here. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/4422984.stm)
I wouldn't say Pennant has ruined his ability - he is still a decent winger but its his attitude problem. He also has an ego.

[Scarface]

Who will be more suitable for us Kuijt or Fernando Torres? Fellow Gooners, I wanna hear your views!

They are very different strikers, but both would add a lot to the team. Kuijt has a great mentality and will work his bollocks off for the team, and his aerial ability is something we lack. Torres, though, is probably the best striker we could realistically sign to partner Henry, and if we buy him, i'd be over the moon. Torres would definitely be my pick if it was between those 2, but Kuijt would also be a great partner for Henry.

[Yi-Long]

Who will be more suitable for us Kuijt or Fernando Torres? Fellow Gooners, I wanna hear your views!

Hmm... cant really be a good judge of Torres, as I havent seen him play much.

Kuytt has a very good attitude, but also ALOT of skills. He often works his ass of on the pitch, and is always motivating the other players, which Arsenal could use, as it lacks an outspoken person on the pitch at times. He has a very good long (cross) pass, pretty good vision, etc etc.

HOWEVER, at Feyenoord, he IS working together with the hugely gifted and talented Salomon Kalou ... (who would also be a great buy for ANY club, as he's one of the biggest talents playing in Europe today), so Kuytt might be less good if he doesnt 'click' with Henry or Van Persie etc. Although I don't think we should be too worried about that.

Kuytt would be great for Arsenal, and probably a bit cheaper then Torres (although I doubt if Feyenoord would let him go cheaply)

[Viperized]

Kuyt would be worth about £10-12 million I believe.

[jthk2004]

why not get both kuyt and torres? bergkamp will retire at the end of the season and we need real forwards who can really score...

it's my dream anyway... i don't think we will have enough £ to get both unless we win the champions league so we can use the prize money to get anyone...

[methical]

another kid, ANOTHER KID i thought it was groundhog day
another kid
why do we keep buying kids, henry and vieira were complaining about that why not just try and get ballack in january or something instead of more kids, we have our own sixth form of players right now

does anyone know about this mexican teenager

and also vieira book sounds like itll be good, better than beckhams easily

[kati_yilan]

Does Beckham know how 2 read & write!!!! i thought his book was a colouring book or a where wally type book

[Yi-Long]

another kid, ANOTHER KID i thought it was groundhog day
another kid
why do we keep buying kids, henry and vieira were complaining about that why not just try and get ballack in january or something instead of more kids, we have our own sixth form of players right now

does anyone know about this mexican teenager

and also vieira book sounds like itll be good, better than beckhams easily

Nothing wrong with buying kids, if they're quality... cause they cost enxt to nothing, and you can quickly teach them to play in the arsenal system. In a few years or sooner, we will REALLY benefit from players like Van Persie, Senderos and Fabregas...
I think it's admirable what Wenger does, turning talented young kids inw orld-class players. And sometimes you will have a period where the results are a little less then you'd hope, but those results will certainly come again with time, and these will be the players that will be doing it :)

I do agree an experienced midfielder would be good for the team, IF he's also a good coacher. However, I feelw e already have a guy in the selection that would be really good in central midfield, Hleb, but Wenger keeps playing him on the outside, which isn't where his strongest talents lie...

[Elton John III]

Hleb has done well on the wing. You can't knock Wenger for playing him there.

[Yi-Long]

Hleb has done well on the wing. You can't knock Wenger for playing him there.

Yeah, Hleb is a good player, so he does well on the wing... however, he'd do much better in a central position, as that suits his style of play much better.

[Viperized]

Yes.

[AgentZero]

k out of Kuijt and Torres...i think the one that suits Arsenal more has to be kuijt....on the basis hes coming from the dutch league as did..Bergkamp and VanPersie (feyenoord aswell) and they fit perfectly into wengers arsenal...whereas players from the spanish league..its a different style and tempo, havent faired aswell as players from the eredivise in the EPL

[Viperized]

Athletico Madrid striker Fernando Torres says he is flattered by speculation linking him to Arsenal. (The Sun).

[sztymiak]

They are very different strikers, but both would add a lot to the team. Kuijt has a great mentality and will work his bollocks off for the team, and his aerial ability is something we lack. Torres, though, is probably the best striker we could realistically sign to partner Henry, and if we buy him, i'd be over the moon. Torres would definitely be my pick if it was between those 2, but Kuijt would also be a great partner for Henry.

ever thought of buying ronaldinho?

[pokey]

we'll see

[Viperized]

The best news since sliced bread:

Torres flattered by Arsenal interest
Fernando Torres admits he is flattered by the recent links with Arsenal.

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=324469&CPID=23&clid=&lid=2&title=Torres+flattered+by+inte rest

Go on Wenger, make a bid for Torres! You know it makes sense! ;D

[Scarface]

ever thought of buying ronaldinho?

Yes, but he's going to be playing behind them. Our team for next season will be this:

--------------------------Hildebrand-------------------------

-----Eboue------Toure---------------Campbell------Cole----

------------------Fabregas---------Gilberto------------------

---------------------------Ronaldinho-----------------------

-------------------Eto'o----Torres-----Reyes---------------


Ronaldinho is signing as part of the deal that takes Henry to Barca.

[executioner]

no way will ronaldinho go to arsenal.
henry will move only for money as you are already under debt because of the emirates stadium deal. you making the deals that your not even part of. dont the lcub make these decisions not the fans?
and even then i doubt barca would sell ron as he has a £100m buy-out clause.
then you could use the money to buy torres if you hadnt already got him in jan.
and how is eto'o there? your getting ahead of yourself.

[Scarface]

no way will ronaldinho go to arsenal.
henry will move only for money as you are already under debt because of the emirates stadium deal. you making the deals that your not even part of. dont the lcub make these decisions not the fans?
and even then i doubt barca would sell ron as he has a £100m buy-out clause.
then you could use the money to buy torres if you hadnt already got him in jan.
and how is eto'o there? your getting ahead of yourself.


Yeah, Arsene Wenger signs the players, but he tells my Dad who works at Arsenal about them. Ronaldinho wanted to sign when he knew that Eto'o was coming to Arsenal. We have over £80m to spend on players. Also, Nesta might sign for Senderos plus £20m. Remember you heard it here first! :cool:

[Viperized]

Yeah, Arsene Wenger signs the players, but he tells my Dad who works at Arsenal about them. Ronaldinho wanted to sign when he knew that Eto'o was coming to Arsenal. We have over £80m to spend on players. Also, Nesta might sign for Senderos plus £20m. Remember you heard it here first! :cool:
:lol:

[executioner]

Yes, but he's going to be playing behind them. Our team for next season will be this:

--------------------------Hildebrand-------------------------

-----Eboue------Toure---------------Campbell------Cole----

------------------Fabregas---------Gilberto------------------

---------------------------Ronaldinho-----------------------

-------------------Eto'o----Torres-----Reyes---------------


Ronaldinho is signing as part of the deal that takes Henry to Barca.

ok mate i've decided to quote you incase you decide to change it in the future ;)
if this is EVER your team line-up i'll eat my hat....and somebody else's too....and then pay for their hat that i've just eaten.

no way do you have £80m. £30 at the most. ronaldinho, eto'o etc. have a much better chance winning the champs league with barca. asrenal are a patient team who are building for the future whereas those 2 want medals NOW.
if any of thsoe players, you have more chance getting torres as he said "the alure of winning the champs league could bring me to arsenal" but then again what if the club doesnt want to sell him? your lost.

you heard it here first ;)

[marcrulz]

hahaha this is the funnist thing ever first not even chelsea will be spending 80 million this year, second thierry henry is getting on in his years and now likes to get injured so hell not go for more than 25m, eto'o wudnt go to arsenal anyway, and if he wanted to u wudnt be able to afford the 35 million, dinho wud cost 45m and this is the club that have never payed more than 20m for a player, I dont think so guys keep dreaming.

[Viperized]

Actually mate, Arsenal do have a budget of around £75 million. And Arsenal DO want to win the Champions League. Did you hear Wenger? He is targeting the Champions League trophy this season.

Out of Reyes9 'line-up', I believe the only player we have a chance of getting is Torres.

[Viperized]

hahaha this is the funnist thing ever first not even chelsea will be spending 80 million this year, second thierry henry is getting on in his years and now likes to get injured so hell not go for more than 25m, eto'o wudnt go to arsenal anyway, and if he wanted to u wudnt be able to afford the 35 million, dinho wud cost 45m and this is the club that have never payed more than 20m for a player, I dont think so guys keep dreaming.
You need to buy a new sarcasm-meter. It is obviously clear that your current one is broken.

At a limited price of only £5.99!

[marcrulz]

a budget of 75m whered u hear that the papewr thats bull and u know it, and so what ur sayin is just becos wenger says hes targeting the cl does that mean hell win it, every manager wants to win the cl thats just a rediculous point to make, and oh my daddy works for arsenal and wenger told him, well what I say to u is if u had a clue how a football club worked ud know 99% of ppl at the club including the players dont know about who a club is going to sign.

[Viperized]

a budget of 75m whered u hear that the papewr thats bull and u know it, and so what ur sayin is just becos wenger says hes targeting the cl does that mean hell win it, every manager wants to win the cl thats just a rediculous point to make, and oh my daddy works for arsenal and wenger told him, well what I say to u is if u had a clue how a football club worked ud know 99% of ppl at the club including the players dont know about who a club is going to sign.
gasfgasdasgsagasd....

Look, we have £70-75 million in the bank. Wenger doesn't usually spend so I guess this is why we have a lot of money.

Hill-Wood (Arsenal Chairman) has stated this 2000 times already to Wenger. I can't be bothered to find the link on the Arsenal site my self. Find it your self. Its on other website's too.

By the way, Reyes9 was joking. I can't believe you took him seriously.

[executioner]

And Arsenal DO want to win the Champions League.
NAH, NO SHIT? :rolleyes:

[Viperized]

NAH, NO SHIT? :rolleyes:
It was my response to your comment:

"asrenal are a patient team who are building for the future whereas those 2 want medals NOW."

When you were talking about the Champions League. Learn to read posts carefully before you start posting. I would recommend aquiring glasses.

[Ray_H]

i really dont think arsenal have 75million to go out and spend, not with the new stadium etc. theres been so much investment at arsenal in the new ground they're almost in as much debt as united after the glazers came along. i wouldnt expect a wave of new signings at arsenal anytime soon. though theres no doubt wenger will look to find a replacement for vieira sooner rather than later. but dont expect 5-6 superstars to walk through the door, the moneys not there and it really isn't arsene wengers style.

i must say though, arsenal finally look good in the champions league, i reckon they'll do really well this year. if liverpool can win it, why not arsenal? it'd be great for english football if a premiership club was to win the champions league 2 years running

[nikos24]

Its hard to think Ronaldinho will even move to Arsenal, or out of Barca in that case, atleast for a couple of seasons to go. Not much Brazilians have the tendency of transferring, and not just that. Ronaldinho will be killed playing the English game. Brazilians are best in the Serie A or Primera Liga, if not them, Bundesliga. Remember, Ronaldinho could have been playing in England now if he accepted Man.U's offer on buying him, instead picked Barca, who at that time weren't the team we know of them now. I mean, I seriously dont think Ronnie will transfer anywhere. As for Henry, the man is a living legend, and he is close to approaching 200 goals for Arsenal, a remarkable achievement. I dont think he will simply leave and leave it as unfinished. Or if he does finish it, Highbury or Arsenal will forever be his home. Wenger will always be like a father, i doubt Rijkaard will mentor him the way Wenger can. And Thierry is a Frenchman, we all know Arsenal has somehow been a bit French in a way. I mean Wenger French, Henry French, Flamini French. Toure and Lauren both speak French that is why Wenger got them. And a bit of a Spanish contignent in Fabregas, Almunia, Reyes and hopefully Torres. But if you are looking for an almost Spanish team in England, Liverpool is your answer.

Any bloody way, I agree though with Viperized that the most probable player to come in next season is Torres to join in the Spanish contignent that Arsenal have. Reyes is a international team-mate, a friend and will help Torres easily settle into Arsenal. So Torres is the most likely player to play for Arsenal in a matter of months.

[Nturtle]

LOL...ah well...it's just good to see that there is some excitement in getting a few more "known" players to Arsenal. It's not to say we can't develop or use existing players...it's just a good thing to promote and capitalise on. Big players are not necessarily the answer all the time - otherwise we'd never blood our youngsters. I think a couple of fellas really have a chance to shine...so let's not just look too closely at the future...leave some space for development!

Vela sounds pretty hot...but then again...we have Lupoli and Bendtner! Sounds like a cracking reserves and youngsters squad over the next couple of years!

[gadfly]

Torres attacking just behind the strikers? Certainly you do not want van Persie's rapidly improving development to get sidelined by setting Torres alongside Henry?

I'm just as impressed by van Persie as I am Torres. He's just as good or better.

[Nturtle]

Very true Gadfly - VP is looking VERY impressive. I think it is just that sometimes name-brand players do a LOT to confidence and psychologically it is threatening. VP doesn't have that status yet...but Torres is very well known in Spain and for the Spanish national team. Once VP is a regular there as well...there isn't a limit for him!

[Ronaldo_is_fat]

I do hope that if Torres is coming he will not affect VP's progress.

[Yi-Long]

Can't really comment on torres as I've only sene him a few times (impressive), but yeah i gotta agree that Van Persie should keep his spot as he's progressing VERY good and rapidly at the moment. I feel he's better and more complete then Robben at the moment, combining great personal skillz (good shot, dribble, tricks etc) with a good vision and pass to provide other players.

BTW, don't know if any of you guys have heard about PSV's 17 year old wonderboy, Ismael Aisatti yet, but he's abso-fucking-lutely awesome. He's barely 17, but Hiddink had him have his debut against AC Milan a few weeks ago, in italy, and in the return match in Eindhoven he was playing the full 90 minutes and outclassed his direct opponents, didnt lose the ball, created a couple of chances, etc etc.
He also made his debut last saturday for Oranje under 20, and was immediately man of the match. Yesterday, again for Oranje u20, he was AGAIN the best man on the pitch. Such an awesome player and a delight to watch. He's very sober, but DOES have a good action, almost never loses the ball, has a good pass, and a great vision. It's been a pretty long time since I've been as impressed with a young player as I am with this kid. Perhaps he would be a good buy for Arsenal in a few years, depending on how Fabregas develops ofcourse, cause both arent very big or strong...
In my opinion, based on the 4-5 matches I've seen Aisatti play (which is pretty much all he has played on this level btw... as I said... he just made his debut a month ago orso...), he's already better then Fabregas.

[Nturtle]

Nice one Yi-long...don't get to watch the dutch league very often! I'm sure LOTS of people have their eyes on such players...but don't forget...we bought Vela...so...what can you do!!?? Can't get ALL of the good young players!

[gadfly]

van Persie by no coincidence is becoming a sort of blend between Henry and Bergkamp.

He is closer to a true striker than a provider, so more of Henry than Bergkamp - but Jesus, would have Henry made such a winger!

[Yi-Long]

van Persie by no coincidence is becoming a sort of blend between Henry and Bergkamp.

He is closer to a true striker than a provider, so more of Henry than Bergkamp - but Jesus, would have Henry made such a winger!

I totally agree with that. He seems to have most of the good skills of Dennis, but also isn't affraid to be opportunistic.
I often said the one 'flaw' Dennis has (and Dennis is my favourite player of all-time), is that he doesnt go for his own succes enough. I've seen him ever since he played at Arsenal: He has a good dribble, he has a good shot, he has very good speed... but somehow he often decides to pass the ball to someone else so HE can take a shot or an action. It's very kind and all, and many players lack that personality. And that IS his biggest talent perhaps, that he makes those around him play better, and that relaxes the team, which makes the whole game better... but often you just wish he'd take that shot, or get past that man, etc etc. He has a very good shot, he should shoot way more often then he does now, as he's a smart enough player to create a shooting opportunity for himself...

So Van Persie is more opportunistic, has a better dribble and tricks, thus scores easier. Hopefully he'll keep developing and growing, but it all looks very promising :)

[gadfly]

I don't think van Persie has quite Bergkamp's level of cleverness and technique on the ball. Bergkamp's style and control are/were on par with Zidane - or too damn near to tell a difference in my humble opinion.

But he has plenty of it, Bergkampness that is, and a great deal of Henry's assassin trait. I am very excited for Arsenal and Holland in van Persie's behalf.

And now that I think of it, not to derail from van Persie - but Zidane and Ronaldo owe Bergkamp a FIFA World Player award, one each. I am religiously Bergkampian.

[Nturtle]

LOL - one of Bergkamp's goals sums him up - the one against...uh...Newcastle? The ball flys over from a pass...he puts the ball past the defender to the left...he runs to the RIGHT past the defender...collects the ball...cooly goes past the keeper...WOW WOW WOW! What a goal!!

[gadfly]

Yes, Newcastle were the slain, and that is the most deliberately beautiful thing I have ever seen. And the strength with which he shrugged the defender to the deck afterwards?

www.dictionary.com should have a looped mpeg of that under sublime, perfect, God and all synonyms of such.

[Nturtle]

LOL...it's pretty cool. In the centurions video, he explains it by saying.."well...I just wanted to get past the defender as quick as I could...and it seemed easier to do it this way"!!!! HA!

VP is getting there I think as well - I just hope he keeps out of trouble on the domestic side!

[methical]

man that bergkamp goal was sooo good i dont think people understand how he knew how to do that because ive never seen anything like that

apart from a romario goal against man united for vasco da gama where he knocked the ball away from goal and the backspin meant the ball bounced back past a shitty man u defender for romario to score, bergkamp must have seen that and thought "i can do better than that"

how good is ths vela guy, all i know is hes 16, mexican and a striker, and thats it. dutch matches come on in the early hours of the morning on chanel 5 so if im up (and thats very likely) ill check for this 17 year old aisatti guy

cant wait to see van persie playing at the level we expect him to get to and i think he can be even better than we hoped for and i hope reyes learns to finish soon because he misses way to many chances

[pokey]

if reyes hit the target more we wouldnt be 5th...

[gadfly]

How are the Centurions and 501 Goals videos? Does any Arsenal compilation include recent genius like Henry's backheel vs Charlton?

[Nturtle]

Woo...didn't know there was a 501 goals comp...that's interesting!

TEam news - Wenger says it will be Toure or Cygan at left back...Eboue has a minor groin injury! GRRRRR!! I would have though Eboue could do it for us...but no luck...

[Yi-Long]

Yeah, I also have that 501 goals compilation. Bought it last summer in HK. I really quite enjoyed seeing that stunner kanu goal against chelsea again :D It's such a damn shame Kanu didnt really break through, as he was an awesome player. His goals on that compilation are worldclass (I also quite like the one where he dummies the keeper, keeper goes to the ground, and neither one touches the ball anymore, cause Kanu just lets it run in :D

I agree Van Persie isnt at the level of Bergkamp (yet?), as like I said, for me, Bergkamp is the best player in the world. If only he would have had a superstar-attitude and more egoisme, he would have gotten ALOT more credit. However, I really like Bergkamp for his personality as it is, so I'm not really complaining :D
The newcastle goal was tremendous. Van Persie also seems to be making a career out of scoring gorgeous goals though... so that's good news :D

[Nturtle]

Nice to see Arsenal doing more than JUST good footballing!

Saturday, November 19, 2005


Arsenal use football to build bridges in Israel

LONDON: Arsenal will start next week with the twin aims of building momentum in the Champions League and building bridges between young Jews and Arabs in Israel.

While the spotlight will be on their Group B game against Thun in Switzerland, the north London club will officially unveil five soccer schools across Israel as part of a wider ‘Arsenal in the Community’ programme. Towns and cities in a dozen countries, ranging from Soweto in South Africa to the eastern Ukraine area still reeling from the effects of the Chernobyl nuclear accident in 1986, have already benefited from the initiative. Alan Sefton, head of the programme, told Reuters the schools’ launch on Monday would follow an earlier move to help reconciliation in northern Israel after the intifada there.

Drawing on the Arsenal brand and the worldwide popularity of the Premier League, Sefton said: “We feel we can do a lot of good using that opportunity in these places. “We can bring people together and do good. It might be social good, like in Soweto, making places better to live in, creating role models and creating trainers — or in other places it might be bringing people together in the Arab-Jewish world.” Arsenal’s involvement in Israel began at the request of the Misgav regional council in a previously untroubled area of Galilee which was hit by the intifada five years ago.

Israeli security forces shot dead 13 Israeli Arabs in October 2000 when they tried to quell demonstrations in the north in support of a Palestinian uprising that had grown violent. In the aftermath, football has proved to be a way of reaching out to the Jewish and Arab communities. “There were riots and people were a bit shocked it could happen in northern Israel this wasn’t the West Bank,” Sefton said. “There were two ways the authorities could approach it either they could re-trench and everyone would go back into their own shell or we could try and improve the community relations.

Training trainers: “We did a programme that was very successful,” said Sefton, whose club’s task was to pass on coaching skills by ‘training the trainers’. It was then expanded to include other Jewish and Arab towns and villages, as part of a summertime “Football for Peace (F4P)” programme led by sports lecturers from Brighton University in southern England.

The F4P camp in July of this year brought together more than 200 coaches, 50 of them from Europe, and 1,000 children aged 10 to 14, drawn from 18 Arab and Jewish communities in Galilee. Teams in the event, which is backed by the British Council, are mixed and each one has a European, Arab and Jewish coach. Arsenal are now trying to take that further by encouraging more frequent training camps, mixing coaching and competitions for the participants. “We believe football opens up people of different classes, social groups, races and nationalities,” said Sefton, whose has a long-term vision for the club’s programmes.

“We’d like to see a thriving football community playing under the Arsenal banner with everyone, in a way, playing together. And in the Misgav area, it is working. “The mayor of the Misgav has told us it is probably the only scheme where Jews and Arabs mix on equal terms and come together on a regular basis.” That will also be the philosophy of the soccer schools, a scheme involving Arsenal-trained coaches which is being put together by Amnon Raz, head of Israel’s coaches’ association.

Mixed team: Though the official launch is on Monday, Raz said the schools had been operating since the start of the season. “There has been full cooperation and tremendous interest from the local authorities, both Jewish and Arab,” Raz told Reuters. “They have shown great interest.” Players who stand out will be picked for a mixed Arab and Jewish team for next year’s edition of the annual Arsenal International Soccer Festival in August in Surrey, south of London.

The festival brings together youth teams from around the world for matches and coaching under an Arsenal umbrella. Israel is not the only Middle East country attracting the club’s interest and Sefton said it was “totally irrelevant” that he and several Arsenal directors were Jewish. The club has a soccer school in Egypt and is having talks with parties in Jordan and Dubai, home to the club’s main sponsors Emirates airline, while an Iraqi team played at last year’s Arsenal festival.

Closer to home, Arsenal organise similar bridge-building projects in London, with primary schools from Jewish and Muslim areas presenting their religious festivals to each other and then playing football together. “That’s one of the reasons why we’re involved in this,” Sefton said of the Israel initiative. “Football can divide but we don’t want it to focus on divisions and tribalism. We focus on things that can bring people together. Religion can and does divide but there are also many common threads in religion. “We think there’s more common interest in those who love football than the reverse.” reuters

[Nturtle]

Cripes...Cygan is just terrible...Larsson should have a go at left back instead...if Eboue is not available!

Dammit...3-1 would have been a better score! All Cygan's fault for the last one!

[martin_cranie]

I only saw the highlights but i have to say that, with the exception of a slight defensive frailty, i was happy enough with performance. It may only be Wigan, but considering their recent form and our away record (not to mention defensive absences), we got a damn good result i think.

[Scarface]

I actually thought Sol Campbell was even worse than Pascal Cygan. He was made to look like a total prick by Jason Roberts. Good job he wasn't up against a really top class striker or we'd have been in trouble. Cygan was useless, but what's new. Gilberto, Pires and Ljungberg were pathetic too, we've got Fabregas, van Persie, Toure and Henry to thank for that win, Fabregas in particular as he held the midfield together.

I agree with the suggestion for Sebastien Larsson at left back, he's a good player and despite being better in midfield, could do a goob job there.

[Ronaldo_is_fat]

Ljungberg was pathetic because he returned from injury a while ago and for Pires, he's just like that. I never put much hope on Cygan funny why Wenger didn't use Eboue.

A good win I would say and I was overjoyed when Van Persie netted the first one but after that he's gone for the whole game.

[gadfly]

Gunners looking fragile, still, in their ambitious climb back towards Chelsea. I remember a time when I would have died to see Barca and Arsenal in a tie. Not so now, unless I wanted to see some desperately one sided contest where Ronnie scores 20 or 30 goals.

Come on boys, put the heat to Chelsea..

[pokey]

shut it gadfly u tit, on our day we can take on any one...
n u no dis maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

[Nturtle]

Ljungberg was pathetic because he returned from injury a while ago and for Pires, he's just like that. I never put much hope on Cygan funny why Wenger didn't use Eboue.

A good win I would say and I was overjoyed when Van Persie netted the first one but after that he's gone for the whole game.

Ah well...a win is a win...Eboue was injured so unfortuantely he would have played.

Yeah..I agree Reyes...the mid-field wasn't particularly good...with Gilbrto flailing around...and the wings not having much impact - Lauren was up there more than Pires!!! LOL!!!

But hey..hopefully we can build on this...just PLS pls pls! DROP Cygan!

[gadfly]

shut it gadfly u tit, on our day we can take on any one...

come on now, I mean Arsenal no ill will with my barbs - I, just like anyone else besides spurs and mancks want to see a dynamic and flowing Arsenal putting the shoes to Chelsea in a competitive race to the title.

"That's awful raw of you, making no mention of your 'beloved' Liverpile in expressing your enthusiasm for a genuine battle for the top shelf of the Premiership."

Shatchur maith. Every decent and loving Liverpool supporter knows exactly where we stand. And where we have no chance of standing. C'mon Liverpile, set yourself amongst the Champion's League again and that will be on par with Arsenal's contest of Chelsea for the title.

[Preki-USA]

:) i love this guy

[gadfly]

And I you! In a platonic way no doubt. But platonic has its roots in Plato and his philosophy of life and relationships. And all those Greeks were homosexuals.

I'm no homosexual. Although once some Cossacks whistled at me, I must admit - I have the kind of body that excites both persuasions..

Just what in the hell, and I am inviting destruction on this, is the deal with all us Yanks fapping for Liverpool? Jesus, we're 100% Liverpool on these forums aren't we? Every damn one I've seen at least!

[Preki-USA]

well check your mailbox

and i am no homo either

[gadfly]

Well deary me, I am firm in my heterosexuality - after a long day working at Banana Republic, I like to unwind with a classic Ginger Rogers/Fred Astaire flick, or catch one of my 3 favorite interior decorating programs.

[Preki-USA]

Well deary me, I am firm in my heterosexuality - after a long day working at Banana Republic, I like to unwind with a classic Ginger Rogers/Fred Astaire flick, or catch one of my 3 favorite interior decorating programs.

AH yes! Fred and Ginger, nothing i like more than kicking my feet up and watching them in all their grace whilst sipping on a slow gin fizz. DELISH!

[gadfly]

Indeed! Limp-wristed high five!

[methical]

we should banish cygan from wearing an arsenal strip because he aalllwwwaaayyysss makes our defense play really shit

campbell was awful, we defended very poorly the whole game, henri cameras goal could have easily been avoided and likewise with bullard

at 2 - 0 we played very well until wigan scored when really we should have took the match over and battered them like the team of 2004 would have, hopefully this win will kick start the rest of the season and at least we will finish second again

keane to partner vieira

juve are making a bid to bring keane and vieira togeather, the papers are all going on about it, imagine that central midfield not in the champions league this season but if it happens then that will be some team

[pokey]

whats the average age of the juve team?
gotta be quite high
maybe we should bid for keane, temp solution to our lacklustre midfield?
maybe not eh lads :P

[Viperized]

Gunners looking fragile, still, in their ambitious climb back towards Chelsea. I remember a time when I would have died to see Barca and Arsenal in a tie. Not so now, unless I wanted to see some desperately one sided contest where Ronnie scores 20 or 30 goals.

Come on boys, put the heat to Chelsea..
We never had a full-strength side. Cygan just being there made our whole defence shit. We'd probably be better off with 10 men. He was useless when he 'tried' to go forward, leaving a massive gap in the defence. Toure had to drift left sometimes to cover his ass, and this sometimes left Campbell on his own in the centre which is not good since he isn't as quick as Roberts. Ljungberg also seemed to be quite mad at him (Zinadine Cygan) - who played quite poor too..

'Gunners looking fragile' - We won the game, and thats all that matters. I'd say we played pretty well but Cygan, Gilberto, Pires, and Ljungberg played bad. Cygan being the worst out of the bunch.. Campbell also had some problems too though.

I'd also like to say that Wigan are no pushovers. They've proved they are a team that battle hard right till the last minute. Their position in the league justifies that. Chelsea had a hard time against Wigan and luckily for them Crespo hit one in from outside the box.

After all, we netted 3 against the supposed best defence in the Premiership!

[Viperized]

whats the average age of the juve team?
gotta be quite high
maybe we should bid for keane, temp solution to our lacklustre midfield?
maybe not eh lads :P
No way. I don't want that cunt over here at Highbury. I don't think many of our players are fond of him either..

He is too old anyways and said he does not want to play in the Premiership again. I don't think Juventus would want to buy him. I'm sure he'll goto Celtic.

well check your mailbox

and i am no homo either
Please leave your little affair in a place like MSN Messenger or use Private Messaging instead of going completely off-topic in this thread which is obviously for all relevent Arsenal talk. (This applies to gadfly too)

[Preki-USA]

No way. I don't want that cunt over here at Highbury. I don't think many of our players are fond of him either..

He is too old anyways and said he does not want to play in the Premiership again. I don't think Juventus would want to buy him. I'm sure he'll goto Celtic.


Please leave your little affair in a place like MSN Messenger or use Private Messaging instead of going completely off-topic in this thread which is obviously for all relevent Arsenal talk. (This applies to gadfly too)

cheer up post nazi, here i'll type something about the gunners:

you'd be mad to give up henry
and don't you think henry is a little upset that you're rebuilding in the prime of his career. I feel like he'd prefer if you would keep star players and search out others in the prime of their career.
players like him don't come along often, you need to capitalize.

[Viperized]

cheer up post nazi, here i'll type something about the gunners:

you'd be mad to give up henry
and don't you think henry is a little upset that you're rebuilding in the prime of his career. I feel like he'd prefer if you would keep star players and search out others in the prime of their career.
players like him don't come along often, you need to capitalize.
I think Henry will stay at the club. What he is doing right now will probably force Wenger to splash the cash in the transfer windows.... maybe.

:p

[Nturtle]

Hope it does the job Viperized...but splashing in the RIGHT way...we don't need superstars...but someone who fits in - such a shame Baptista didn't get over. We need a guy who is ANOTHER good target man like Henry. VP is starting to get there...but he doesn't hold up the ball as well as Henry. And we need a guy who CAN head the ball...as much as we don't play that way!

[Viperized]

Hope it does the job Viperized...but splashing in the RIGHT way...we don't need superstars...but someone who fits in - such a shame Baptista didn't get over. We need a guy who is ANOTHER good target man like Henry. VP is starting to get there...but he doesn't hold up the ball as well as Henry. And we need a guy who CAN head the ball...as much as we don't play that way!
Torres would be ideal, but do you really think our weak point is upfront? We need to get another midfielder first.

But I do think Wenger could go for a midfielder and a striker this January. Torres seems to be the most obvious solution for a striker but the question is Wenger going to spend £20 million or so on Torres? I hope he does though..

[Nturtle]

Well...I get your point Viperized...that's why I said Baptista is a shame...and I should have explained better....HEADING is something we LOSE out on in mid-field as well as up front - seems like something Baptista does naturally!

Maybe something will come up for Wenger that is good...Kuyt...etc...maybe some of these strikers can be converted back to mid-field! You never know...Wenger does a lot of positional changing of his player...(Lauren - midfield to RB / Song - CB to mid-field!).

Let's see how it works! Torres is somebody who can take a bit of a load of Henry anyway...even though VP is doing just that to great effect recently. But we've got to ensure that we aren't just seen as a team who plays around Henry...it used to be we talked about Overmars, Bergkamp, Viera etc a bit more...NOW...its ALL on Henry's shoulders...

[gadfly]

Baptista is going to spend the rest of this year's La Liga convincing himself he didn't eat 10 bowls of shit on that Madrid move.

[Viperized]

Baptista is going to spend the rest of this year's La Liga convincing himself he didn't eat 10 bowls of shit on that Madrid move.
And he'll fail.

Then he'll plead to Wenger to sign for Arsenal.

[Yi-Long]

BTW ... do you guys think there will be a lot of movement in the coming transfer-opening? Most really good players who have a steady place in their squad, will probably stay put, just so they won't risk getting stuck on the bench at a new club, and perhaps miss out on the World Cup next summer cause they havent been playing enough...

[Viperized]

Not really, but I do expect Arsenal to get 1 or 2 players...

[Yi-Long]

Tonight's match was Arsenal unworthy. Winning the game by a dive by Van Persie, plus a disallowed goal for FC Thun...
It's sad to see a player as Robin, with so much talent and potential, go to the ground that easily to get a penalty.
I know many here won't care cause Arsenal got the points and for some, that's all what counts in football... but a team like Arsenal shouldnt resort to these tactics.

[Dragonfly]

I used to think PES5 refereeing decisions were unrealistic until I today's game against FC Thun. I always have a moan about wrong off-side decison -"Level is N O T off-side !!!!!!!!" - but today proved I was wrong.

[gadfly]

Gentlemen, help me out would you?

Get me a clip of the Henry freekick strike vs. Wigan. And it must be one that includes all angles - specifically - the angle where it only follows his reaction as he watches the ball in, and turns towards but not directly to the camera, saying clearly, "Is that enough?"

EDIT: Son of a bitch, I came dangerously close at the sister site of soccerclips.net - the one that carries Premiership goals.. but it didn't give that proper last angle.

[gadfly]

Ahh great gatsbies, I found the fucker!

Have at you! (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PM7FUXBF)

Now I need to figure out how to separate the final seconds of Henry's 2nd clip into its own looped gif or mpeg or whatnot. I'll be dipped in shit if I know how to though - technology > gadfly.

[Nturtle]

LOL Gadfly...good find. I think if you use some kind of converter into a GIF...then it should do a small animation loop for you.

RE: Players...well..I agree with Viperized, one or two players...but not many more. It shouldn't matter for good players...as some of them are NOT in the world cup! HA!

[gadfly]

Thanks turtle, but you're using words that I need definition for, to define the solution to my problem.

I'm not kidding, when it comes to technology, I am the caveman approaching the smoking time machine with fear and trembling.

[Nturtle]

Thanks turtle, but you're using words that I need definition for, to define the solution to my problem.

I'm not kidding, when it comes to technology, I am the caveman approaching the smoking time machine with fear and trembling.

HAHA! Um...I don't do that stuff very much either...I'll check some other forums to see how it works out...perhaps you can pose the question in the general forums under technical advice or something - maybe us Gunners don't do this stuff! HAHA!

BTW...here's a nice article about VELA...didn't know he was already in the UK...well the article implied that he is anyway!

http://www.fifa.com/en/WorldLeagues/index/0,4643,111545,00.html?comp=CWC&year=2005&articleid=111545

[Viperized]

Ahh great gatsbies, I found the fucker!

Have at you! (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PM7FUXBF)

Now I need to figure out how to separate the final seconds of Henry's 2nd clip into its own looped gif or mpeg or whatnot. I'll be dipped in shit if I know how to though - technology > gadfly.
What is the format of the file?

Well anyways. Open the file in Windows Movie Maker, delete the frames you don't want. Save it as an .AVI file. Then use this program:

http://www.ggcomputer.com/convert-avi-gif.htm

[gadfly]

Many thanks viper, I'm all over it.

It's a .wmv..

EDIT: I thought I had to go download Movie Maker from a fileshare, and while I was going to look at the .wmv in Windows Media I saw that I had Movie Maker, and had no idea.

Like Woody Allen with twin Uzi's.

[gadfly]

Ahh yes - last thing.

I'd also like to caption it. It doesn't seem like it would be too hard - when I 'came across' Advent Children, even my stupid ass figured out how to get subtitles to go with the movie, as they were separate.

EDIT: Nevermind, there are links and guides within Movie Maker explaining all of this. Christ look at me, all giddy.

[Nturtle]

LOL...looking forward to your looped Henry comment gadfly!!

Looks like Ashley Cole is out until next year...bummer....but Hleb might get back in the team for Ajax.

Hopefully Eboue starts...and Lauren switches to left back.

[gadfly]

This is becoming a hairy bastard, I haven't found one site or one download off Limewire that isn't a ripoff. They're all try before you buy, and plaster their shit-awful company logo all over your finished .gif, or don't let you save it at all.

[The Dubes]

I don't get it? Why did he say 'Is that enough?' Or was he just being his usual arrogant self and talking rubbish?

[gadfly]

From what I understand, he has had enough of the swelling media rabble saying he is going to leave the Gunners - everyone questioning his loyalty now. He wanted to shut them up.

[Nturtle]

Well..ManU have lost interest in Ballack...maybe Wenger can sign him!!!

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/tm_objectid=16411578%26method= full%26siteid=94762%26headline =united%2d%2dballack%2disnoton %2dour%2dlist%2d-name_page.html

Of course...this is from the trustworty MIRROR...hahah!

[accessgranted]

Is that you Horatio?

[Akineye]

I don't get it? Why did he say 'Is that enough?' Or was he just being his usual arrogant self and talking rubbish?

He asked the referee if he could take a quick free-kick, and the ref told him to wait.

[Nturtle]

LOL...oh well. When De Zeuw got a booking...Henry even turned around to him and said..."sorry..I didn't mean to make it look bad...I'm not hurt at all - sorry to get you booked"....so...is he really super arrogant?

Anyway...lets see how it goes tonight v Blackburn...CYGAN back on the left..woo hoo!!

[executioner]

Well..ManU have lost interest in Ballack...maybe Wenger can sign him!!!
i wonder what number REAL MADRID will give him....
Of course...this is from the trustworty MIRROR...hahah!
fair enough :D

[Rangers_Fureva]

Arsenal are winning 1-0 at the moment. Fabregas in the 4th minute. Anyone know if the game's on tv ??

[ThierryHenry14]

it will be on motd it may be on sky sports

[ThierryHenry14]

3-0 to arsenal