Arsenal

[adams9802]

Arsenal FC - The Pride Of London

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Nickname: The Gunners

Founded: 1886

Stadium: The Emirates Stadium (capacity 60,432)

http://www.arsenalpics.com/image/Emirates-Stadium_273278.jpg


Manager: Arsene Wenger

Chairman: Peter Hill-Wood


Arsenal Squad

Arsenal Squad

Goalkeepers
1 Manuel Almunia (Vice-Captain)
21 Lukasz Fabianski
24 Vito Mannone
53 Wojciech Szczesny

Defenders
3 Bacary Sagna
5 Thomas Vermaelen
6 Philippe Senderos
10 William Gallas
17 Alexandre Song
18 Mikael Silvestre
20 Johan Djourou
22 Gaël Clichy
28 Kieran Gibbs
30 Armand Traore


Midfielders
2 Abou Diaby
4 Cesc Fabregas (Captain)
7 Tomáš Rosický
8 Samir Nasri
14 Theo Walcott
15 Denilson
16 Aaron Ramsey
19 Jack Wilshere
23 Andriy Arshavin
27 Emmanuel Eboué
46 Fran Merida

Forwards
9 Eduardo da Silva
11 Robin van Persie
12 Carlos Vela
52 Nicklas Bendtner


First Division and England League titles: 13
1930–31, 1932–33, 1933–34, 1934–35, 1937–38, 1947–48, 1952–53, 1970–71, 1988–89, 1990–91, 1997–98, 2001–02, 2003–04

FA Cups: 10
1929–30, 1935–36, 1949–50, 1970–71, 1978–79, 1992–93, 1997–98, 2001–02, 2002–03, 2004–05

League Cups: 2
1986–87, 1992–93

Charity Shields and Community Shields: 12
1930, 1931, 1933, 1934, 1938, 1948, 1953, 1991, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2004

Inter-Cities Fairs Cup: 1
1969–70

European Cup Winners' Cup: 1
1993–94

[Trezeguet]

I'm not an Arsenal fan, but I'll say Kanu.
Gr8 striker but earns a lot and not playing.

Arsenal has already gr8 strikers in Wiltord, Bergkamp, loaned-out Jeffers and Pennant, and of course, HENRY!!!!!

[adams9802]

I'm not an Arsenal fan, but I'll say Kanu.
Gr8 striker but earns a lot and not playing.

Arsenal has already gr8 strikers in Wiltord, Bergkamp, loaned-out Jeffers and Pennant, and of course, HENRY!!!!!

Personally I would love to see Wiltord go, Kanu has his place in certain games. He can hold up the ball well and his passing is decent

[Trezeguet]

Wiltord is French, plays with Henry, Pires in national games.

France my fave national team, if U wanna know.

[adams9802]

cool, mine is the US first then England

[Trezeguet]

Who's Ur fave US player?

[adams9802]

Who's Ur fave US player?
Mc bride, excellent player that could do very well in Enlgand

[Trezeguet]

Mine's Donovan, but he performed not so well at Bayer Leverkusen.

[adams9802]

Mine's Donovan, but he performed not so well at Bayer Leverkusen.
In a few years he'll be world class

[Trezeguet]

You're back!!!
Anyway congrats to Arsenal for retaining their 100% record by exactly half of the season!!!

Gr8 feat!!!

[adams9802]

thanks we have done well, just a little more consitency and not give up goals in the last 10 minutes we will be unstoppable

[Trezeguet]

U fink they could go unbeaten all season?
My guess: 1 loss away, and a few unlucky draws.

[adams9802]

U fink they could go unbeaten all season?
My guess: 1 loss away, and a few unlucky draws.
Well at this point I haven't seen a team in the EPL that has ever lookeed like really beating us, except bolton last week...

[Trezeguet]

Arsenal's been consistent this season, unlike Newcastle.

What do U think they're doin' losing 5-0 to Chelsea?

[adams9802]

[I dunno just a bad year, they are very prone to defensive brain farts and the whole team is propped up by Shearer...they have no one else Robert is their second best attacking option

[Trezeguet]

How 'bout Dyer?
Can't shoot though.

[adams9802]

How 'bout Dyer?
Can't shoot though.
he's ok...fast nimble but never produces anything of real value

[Trezeguet]

Low crosses his best trait, other than speed.

[adams9802]

Low crosses his best trait, other than speed.
But like everyone on that team spends an enormous amount of time on the treatment table

[Trezeguet]

Think Arsenal, Man Utd 'n' Chelsea would all beat Liverpool at our home stadium?

[adams9802]

Think Arsenal, Man Utd 'n' Chelsea would all beat Liverpool at our home stadium?
no but espcially arsenal Liverpool is one of our bogey teams

[Trezeguet]

Yeah.
Along with Newcastle???

They're gr8 attacking side at their best.
The bad thing is that they're not now...

[adams9802]

[QUOTE=Trezeguet]Yeah.
Along with Newcastle???

Not newcastle, we always beatem at home, away at SJP is always tough but we manage to find their defensive frailties pretty easy though

[Trezeguet]

I remembered Arsenal won at Highbury 3-2 'gainst them this season, thanks to unlucky handball and Henry penalty, hit centre.

[adams9802]

yeah..that game was great up and down...I couldn't belive our luck when Jenas punched the ball away in the area...

[Trezeguet]

Didn't know what Jenas was up to.
Doing a keeper's clearance job?

[adams9802]

Didn't know what Jenas was up to.
Doing a keeper's clearance job?
He was channeling Given's spirit.. :)

[Trezeguet]

*laughing*, still

[adams9802]

*laughing*, still
yeah very bizzare but I'll take a free PK any day

[Trezeguet]

I would too, but wouldn't learn from Henry to shoot in the middle, too risky.

Wouldn't look smart if keeper remained there for an easy catch...
Sort of like PASSING it to him...

[adams9802]

I would too, but wouldn't learn from Henry to shoot in the middle, too risky.

Wouldn't look smart if keeper remained there for an easy catch...
Sort of like PASSING it to him...
Although if you watch the footage again given has alreay moved to his left so there was no way he's getting back center...

[Trezeguet]

Legs could stop it...if long enough.
I've seen some GKs doin' the spread-eagled dive, like cover a big part of the goal.....can't describe how funny it looks if Henry just slots it in low under the "eagle"....

[adams9802]

Legs could stop it...if long enough.
I've seen some GKs doin' the spread-eagled dive, like cover a big part of the goal.....can't describe how funny it looks if Henry just slots it in low under the "eagle"....
LOL...yeah I think Shemical used to do that

[Trezeguet]

Really???
Saw how he saved from Bergkamp in Q-final match against Man Utd, was well simple.

[adams9802]

Really???
Saw how he saved from Bergkamp in Q-final match against Man Utd, was well simple.
Or I thnk he called it a his star jump...he looked foolish but must have done something...

[Trezeguet]

After saving he did something like..."YES!!!"
Clinching his fist.

Why didn't Arsenal players chase the ball afterwards?
Were they confident Bergkamp had scored?

[Trezeguet]

U think Cygan can success Adams properly?

[adams9802]

Well no cause you can't replace the best defender in the history of the world.. But he has finally settled and is doing well but he will never be Adams or even campbell

[Trezeguet]

If he does then Wenger would be a geius to spot a talent like him for just £2.1m...

[adams9802]

no this season he looks more like a 6 million pound person..but that is what Wenger does...if we were to buy the players we have now at market price we would have to pay 40 mil for henry 18 for bob, 18 for fred, 30 for Vieira....And we even got Sol on a free!

[Trezeguet]

Man Utd bidded £40m for Vieira, was turned down.

Does your kypad have "£" key?
Mine doesn't, have to copy and paste.

[adams9802]

[no it doesn't But being in the US it really doesn't matter. Vieira will never leave...or if he did I would kill myself

[Trezeguet]

Bought for just £3m, wasn't he?

[adams9802]

I think about 6 milbut whatever it was it was one of the buys of the century

[Trezeguet]

I remembered £3m, and also read somewhere the 2 Arsenal central MFs, Gilberto and Vieira, cost just £8m.

[adams9802]

sounds about right but Silva is only worth that sometimes he is a bit of a donkey

[Trezeguet]

Almost scored a hat-trick recently against ? 1st shot saved by fingertips, 2nd bullet header which scored, and 3rd volley which hit the crossbar then the post...

[adams9802]

Almost scored a hat-trick recently against ? 1st shot saved by fingertips, 2nd bullet header which scored, and 3rd volley which hit the crossbar then the post...
yet none went in......I mean there are games in which he does very well and others were he looks tired and sucks

[Trezeguet]

The header scored.
Looks like he's formed DM partnership with Vieira.

[adams9802]

yeah it gives us greater balance. with edu or Parlour we are a little too offensive.]

[Trezeguet]

Does he slide tackle well?

[adams9802]

[yes. booked only once in two years. his tackle rate is very high

[Trezeguet]

Arsene's keeping Wiltord.

[adams9802]

[I know....dammit.

[Trezeguet]

Shd at least keep then sell, not let him leave on Bosman free...

[adams9802]

I think his wages are too high for many clubs

[Trezeguet]

More than Pires'?

[adams9802]

no but still 30-40 per week

[Trezeguet]

Arsenal plays who in the CL 2nd round?

[adams9802]

Arsenal plays who in the CL 2nd round?
Celta Vigo

[Trezeguet]

The "Draw of Death" must have been Bayern Munich vs Real Madrid..

[adams9802]

it was and those two teams don't particuarly like each other I hope Bayern Stuffs em

[Trezeguet]

Ya.
That'll make it must easier for the rest of the clubs.

[adams9802]

yes...
Hey I gotta go bed time but nice conversations and we'll talk again..:)

[Trezeguet]

Ok.

[jag87]

A point behind us ada,s! ;) Bring it on! Chamon!

[adams9802]

We'll win, cause whoever is on top at christmas loses and Chelski isn't gonna win..

[Trezeguet]

Think Man Utd win win if they don't lose to Arsenal at Highbury...

[Trezeguet]

Hey Adams9802, U there, let's chat.

[familymahone]

I see Ray Parlour has been spouting off about Arsenal going the season unbeaten again in todays papers. Do they never learn? After the pain of last season you'd think they would. Next league match at Goodison too, perfect timing.

[Trezeguet]

Arsene Wenger soundered stupid to say his team would go unbeaten for the whole of last season, but how many times did they lose?

5?

Goodison Park, I fink Everton 2-2 Arsenal.

[adams9802]

Nah I see arsenal really not going unbeaten but still they can beat everton

[Trezeguet]

Maybe 2-3 then.
Henry sure to score.

[adams9802]

yeah it seems he has started to pick up some more form...which we need.

[Trezeguet]

Think Arsenal depend too much on Henry, like Man Utd do on Ruud.

[adams9802]

I think so too but right now Arsenal have no money and Man Utd have just bought some duffers, plus Ole Gunner has been out for a while and he can help the burden. Plus Becks was an easy 13 goals a season

[Trezeguet]

Did Becks or Giggs score more?

[adams9802]

I dunno any solid numbers but it always seemed that Becks did, giggs does alot of running and setting up

[Trezeguet]

Talk over more threads like last time?
Quicker that way.

[adams9802]

Talk over more threads like last time?
Quicker that way.
ok

[Trezeguet]

Thanks!!

[jag87]

There should be and Adams9802 and Trezegeut Thread.

[Trezeguet]

Nice one jag!!!
Dunno why no one else comes here...

[jag87]

I'll create one then shall I?

[adams9802]

I'll create one then shall I?
indeed. we've had about 300 posts in the last couple days

[Trezeguet]

But I'm afraid ppl would just jump in...
Anyway it's much quicker chatting thru more threads.
Otherwise have to wait and wait, refresh and refresh...

[adams9802]

But I'm afraid ppl would just jump in...
Anyway it's much quicker chatting thru more threads.
Otherwise have to wait and wait, refresh and refresh...
yeah it is before we started to chat I had only 60 posts or so but now i have near 300

[Trezeguet]

??????
(don't know what to say...)

[Mambo]

yeah it is before we started to chat I had only 60 posts or so but now i have near 300

*Round of Applause* Congratualtions and mght I say thank you for 300 fantastic contributions. In tribute I have attached this picture:

http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~ddgarcia/gifs/spam.gif

[Trezeguet]

What does the picture mean?

[nath_scfc]

We (stoke) have loaned Svard from aresnal utnil the end of season, is he any good? We loaned John Halls from you and hes cracking, so much so we bought him from you! Hope Svard's as good if not better!

[Henry_IS_God]

Only loan i care about is pennant :( hope he doesn't settle and Wenger doesn't get rid of another quality english youngster :(

[adams9802]

Only loan i care about is pennant :( hope he doesn't settle and Wenger doesn't get rid of another quality english youngster :(
He won't settle...Wenger isn't gonna get rid of his best youngster.

[Zoidberg]

He's English, of course Wenger will sell him.

[adams9802]

He's English, of course Wenger will sell him.
Well you must say most of english buys have been very bad...Jeffers,Wright....

[Zoidberg]

Wright isn't a bad keeper, he's certainly no worse than Lehmann who isn't the most reliable in the league. Jeffers is a bit of a flop, I agree. I still think he's better than Aliadiere at the moment though.

I guess I could sum it up easier in two words though...Matthew Upson ;)

[adams9802]

Wright isn't a bad keeper, he's certainly no worse than Lehmann who isn't the most reliable in the league. Jeffers is a bit of a flop, I agree. I still think he's better than Aliadiere at the moment though.

I guess I could sum it up easier in two words though...Matthew Upson ;)
yeah but is he better than toure or better than cygan?..Personally I think he must regret leaving...if he awaited a few months longer he could have been starting at a much bigger club instead he's playing a B.C....

[Zoidberg]

Touré's a great player but he looks better at right-back then centre-back, but I guess he'll always play there when Lauren is fit.

As for Cygan being as good as Upson...surely your taking the michael? Upson and Campbell could have been the best partnership in the league if Wenger didn't have a phobia of English players.

[adams9802]

Touré's a great player but he looks better at right-back then centre-back, but I guess he'll always play there when Lauren is fit.

As for Cygan being as good as Upson...surely your taking the michael? Upson and Campbell could have been the best partnership in the league if Wenger didn't have a phobia of English players.
Oh I'm not saying that he is...I think he is slower that Matty but his anticipation and positional sense is better..and besides we have Senderos.

[Zoidberg]

Oh I'm not saying that he is...I think he is slower that Matty but his anticipation and positional sense is better..and besides we have Senderos.
I've heard quite a bit about this Senderos but I've never seen him play, what is he like? I know he Swiss and has played at U21 level, but that's all.

Off topic a bit I know, but tomorrow you might see England's replacement for Scholes for the first time in Ciaran Donnelly for Blackburn ;)

[adams9802]

Senderos would be out of the reserves by now if he didn't get injured so damn much.....he's good and young..solid and good in the air..a very smart defender.

[Henry_IS_God]

cole and campbell were 2 brilliant english signings aswell ;)

Lauren as dropped big time, toure could replace either upson or lauren but not both :S we need another defender!! :D

[adams9802]

I see the back line as

Campbell/Cygan
Toure Cole



Lauren is a midfielder...always has been and a pretty good one..Wenger needs to put him back where he belongs then he'll start playing well. He is only 26

[adams9802]

As of late most people think Gilberto is a donkey. I think otherwise, I personally think that he is misunderstood. Most people think that he should be this total footballer and rove from defense to offense with impunity. I think that he was bought so Vieira could go forward coz he (V) has better passing and vision. Every game he's been in he tackles without fear and provides a solid midfield cover.

[adams9802]

well we are top of the leauge and christ Chelski looked so dire today...in fact IMO they are looking like they will be lucky to get 3rd. Terrible shit they played today.... :D :D :D But arsenal played OK a bit opportunistic but i'll take it none the less.

[Zizou_Zizi]

IMO the 2 wing-backs should be Cole and Lauren.

Heart of defence Campbell and Toure.
Cygan needs more time, but you wouldn't bet against somewho turning into a star when Wenger buys him. Jeffers, except.

Feel very sorry for Toure, attacks great but poor shooting.

[drunkensailor]

defensively cole and toure are crap

[iamclearlyaledgendww]

your crap. Topura has been a starr this season, but cole is an angry know like lauren, and lehmann for that matter

[adams9802]

your crap. Topura has been a starr this season, but cole is an angry know like lauren, and lehmann for that matter

Do you even try to make sense? What do you mean by that statement? Can I mail you a dictionary? Or money for grammer lessons?

[Why did i get banned]

Do you even try to make sense? What do you mean by that statement? Can I mail you a dictionary? Or money for grammer lessons? But i do love you samvanpes!

[adams9802]

I belive your recent posts are case in point :o And maybe I do love you samvanpes ....

[iamclearlyaledgendww]

Thank you

[adams9802]

:d

[iamclearlyaledgendww]

are you american, cause i hate americans

[adams9802]

Maybe. and why?

[iamclearlyaledgendww]

i hate bush anyway hess an arsenal, i read the michael moore book

[adams9802]

Well that's better coz I fucking can't stand bush...he is perhaps the most evil president and IMO a racist bigotted fuck face. What do you mean he's an arsenal? And yes i'm american

[iamclearlyaledgendww]

hes a cuntstable

[adams9802]

hes a cuntstable
and where are you from?

[Zygalski]

hes a cuntstable

Do you want to be banned again?
Cut it out with all this shit.

And then he wonders "why did I get banned?" :rolleyes:

[iamclearlyaledgendww]

england. See the hidden meaning in the words.....................

[Zygalski]

See the hidden meaning of your ban......

Go away.

[adams9802]

Thank you Zyg:)

[whatrudoing???]

Thank you fopr what??????

[whatrudoing???]

this site is so dull!! Just one man and his dog, talking crap, zygalski how did you get so many posts when there is nothing here to talk about???

[Zygalski]

If it is so dull, why do dumb shits like you keep coming back??

[zygalski.]

Hi i am zygalski a sad man with 7500 posts, on a crappy site. See the hidden meaning of you ban- you are very clever arent you, actually you are a cuntstable who whouls be shot, now allow me to access this site in freedom. Free society except pesinsight a shite site for boring bastards. There are so many alternatives

Try evo-web for a start, and take those arrogant sticks out of your arsenals

[Zygalski]

Yes, so go try the other sites then.

[adams9802]

Arsenal have lost to boro...oh well one its the carling cup two, we fielded an astounding number of youngsters and 1-0 isn't bad against a boro fielding all starters. Besides I think that Boror want this more than we do anyways

[Zizou_Zizi]

When did the game started?

[adams9802]

I dunno I think around 8:00 kick off

[Zoidberg]

That's only the first leg though, maybe Boro will open up a bit more at home.

David Bentley looks a good prospect, although he's not a left winger by any stretch of the imagination. He looks more like a Bergkamp type player.

[adams9802]

It should be goodI think we'll play more of our stars in the return leg and we'll rip'em apart

oh and drunkensailor check your PM box...

[drunkensailor]

That's only the first leg though, maybe Boro will open up a bit more at home.

David Bentley looks a good prospect, although he's not a left winger by any stretch of the imagination. He looks more like a Bergkamp type player.

the bentley of football then ;)

[Zizou_Zizi]

That's only the first leg though, maybe Boro will open up a bit more at home. You mean Arsenal were defeated 1-0 at home to Boro?

[adams9802]

You mean Arsenal were defeated 1-0 at home to Boro?
yup we lost but who cares? not I

[adams9802]

Did anyone see the Bentley goal? He looks like trailer trash but he certainly has some skill! Schwarzer must have only been 3-4 yards off his line...amazing shit.:)

[BazHilder]

Yeah i just saw bentley's goal. His hair is shocking but that was a special finish. i hope he gets a decent chance in the team unlike pennant etc

[adams9802]

Yeah i just saw bentley's goal. His hair is shocking but that was a special finish. i hope he gets a decent chance in the team unlike pennant etc
I hope so too but I think bentley has much more talent than Pennant though....maybe wenger knows more than we give him credit for.

[Zizou_Zizi]

And all those in the 4-1 win right?
Was it in the FA Cup or League Cup?

[adams9802]

The FA Cup.

[Zizou_Zizi]

Okay.
1st leg right?

[adams9802]

The FA cup has no legs. If you tie the first game you have a replay..if still tied after that you got to extra time. Unfortunately the government destroyed much of the romanticsm of the FA with no marthon replays:( I would love to see two teams battle each other for 6-7 games.

[Zizou_Zizi]

Yeh I know, when I said first leg I meant the one before the replay if there's any, so I'm guessing that 4-1 victory was not the FA Cup replay then?

[adams9802]

No it was just 4th round.

[Zizou_Zizi]

Anyway after they draw who plays who they do another draw for who's at home right?

[adams9802]

No whoever is home at the draw is away in the next game.

[Zizou_Zizi]

Really?
I didn't noticed that.

But anyway, I feel 50% of the outcome of the game is dependent on the stadium.

Like last season 5th round Arsenal won at Old Trafford is that right?

If it was at Highbury it would have been very different, perhaps Arsenal 0-2 Man United?

[adams9802]

HAHAHAHAHA you are so funny. IF we meet United in the cup it would be a good game but honestly I don't fear united at all...eazi-peazy

[Zizou_Zizi]

I don't fear Arsenal either.
United beat Arsenal in prem last season st home, and should have won away as well... :)

[adams9802]

However this season is much different. Arsenal are much better defensively. ANdUnited are much weaker, especially with Rio out.

[Zizou_Zizi]

Utd's midfield are the best in the prem.

[MatPhillips]

Arsenal vs Chesea in 5th round!

opinions please.

i predict the most boring match ever! (the "match of the round" usually is.)

[adams9802]

Utd's midfield are the best in the prem.
*laughs*

I think not. vieira is so much better than keane, Pires scores more and is involved in more of the play than giggs, Fletcher, or Ronaldo on the right vs Ljungberg no Contest. And P. Neville over world cup winner Gilberto? Nah, I mean Gilberto is not that great but atleast he's not a Neville!:)

[Zizou_Zizi]

Don't just compare class with inexperienced.

Keane more influentional then Vieira.
Kleberson better than Gilberto.
Giggs plays better than Pires.
Silvestre more quality than Cole.
G Neville more quality than Lauren.
O' Shea better than....Toure?

And lastly, (some of you might not agree)

van Nistelrooy better than Henry.

[rebusrahman]

Ooooh!

http://www.teamtalk.com/teamtalk/News/Story_Page/0,7760,761707,00.html

[BazHilder]

We've signed Jose Reyes from Sevilla for around £20m today. its on the official website. he's a winger, anyone know anything about him. He's meant to be the best young player in Spain.

[adams9802]

I am starting to wonder though if all these Thierry to Real stories are true...I mean how the hell did we get all of this money...and if this is true I will be very angry, Henry is our team with out him we are nothing.......but Vieira has said that Henry won't leave so I hinge my hopes on that.

[Zizou_Zizi]

Would you rather have Henry over Vieira if one of them is to leave?

[Henry_IS_God]

Don't just compare class with inexperienced.

Keane more influentional then Vieira.
Kleberson better than Gilberto.
Giggs plays better than Pires.
Silvestre more quality than Cole.
G Neville more quality than Lauren.
O' Shea better than....Toure?

And lastly, (some of you might not agree)

van Nistelrooy better than Henry.



...........ur so full of shit lol
just shutup all 2gether ur views r totally biased and truely untrue n' suck!

even tho im an arsenal fan im not being biased :P

[adams9802]

Arsenal vs Chesea in 5th round!

opinions please.

i predict the most boring match ever! (the "match of the round" usually is.)

I predict a 1 or 2 nil victory to the gunners. It will be ok But I don' think Crespo will be back and quite frankly Chelsea is pretty toothless up front.

[Zizou_Zizi]

Crespo hasn't recovered yet.

I'm going for a draw in the FA Cup.
For the prem it's at Stamford Bridge, right?

[adams9802]

Crespo hasn't recovered yet.

I'm going for a draw in the FA Cup.
For the prem it's at Stamford Bridge, right?

No its at highbury, and you really need to read the whole post....:rolleyes:

[Zizou_Zizi]

I mean in the Prem!
For the FA Cup, it's Highbury yes.

[pokey]

arsenal however knocked man utd out the fa cup..... and won it so shhh lol

[Zizou_Zizi]

Giggs missed terribly in that match.....oh dear.

[jthk2004]

and edu had his luck... deflection

[Henry_IS_God]

arsenal had that game all day they just needed a goal to show for it! wiltord quality finish!

[adams9802]

So what do you gooners think abbout how the squad is shaping up for the new season?

[50!]

The only ppl i have seen arsenal buy are van persie and the young parma guy are there any others?

[Scarface]

So what do you gooners think abbout how the squad is shaping up for the new season?

i think the squad is in excellent condition..ppl seem 2 b makin a meal out of us releasin/ sellin 17 players but they r not needed! robin van persie is a gr8 addition 2 the squad..i rate him so highly, under wengers guidance i genuinely think he will bcum beta than arjen robben and rafael van der vaart! lupoli is only 17 so his 1 4 the future and we have also signed manuel almunio who was outstandin last season at albacete so even tho i was very happy with the 3 gks we alredy had 9 all of them r of the highest highest quality) he seems 2 b a gud addition neway.hatem trabelsi will b a gr8 signin wen he signs l8a this week 9 if all goes 2 plan :D ) we need sum comp 4 lauren at rite bk until justin hoyte has enuf experience and maturity 2 take ova and bcum 1 of the top rite bks in european football!!
b4 ppl slag off our squad sayin its 'weak' and 'understrength' and all that crap they need 2 check out our squad and c wot talent we have in there..without
bein biased we have far and away the best squad in the country so everythin is jooly gud from where im sittin lol :D

[adams9802]

i think the squad is in excellent condition..ppl seem 2 b makin a meal out of us releasin/ sellin 17 players but they r not needed! robin van persie is a gr8 addition 2 the squad..i rate him so highly, under wengers guidance i genuinely think he will bcum beta than arjen robben and rafael van der vaart! lupoli is only 17 so his 1 4 the future and we have also signed manuel almunio who was outstandin last season at albacete so even tho i was very happy with the 3 gks we alredy had 9 all of them r of the highest highest quality) he seems 2 b a gud addition neway.hatem trabelsi will b a gr8 signin wen he signs l8a this week 9 if all goes 2 plan :D ) we need sum comp 4 lauren at rite bk until justin hoyte has enuf experience and maturity 2 take ova and bcum 1 of the top rite bks in european football!!
b4 ppl slag off our squad sayin its 'weak' and 'understrength' and all that crap they need 2 check out our squad and c wot talent we have in there..without
bein biased we have far and away the best squad in the country so everythin is jooly gud from where im sittin lol :D
I agree with everything that you have said band hopefully we will capture Trabelsi later this week. But the one thing that I would like to see is a new centeral midfielder. With Parlour looking elsewhere and gilberto failing to convince I would really like to see a new partner for PV4 and to me it isn't EDU. He's been good but not consistent enough. I wish we would have picked up Davids. free and we can afford his wages especially if we get rid of Gilbo

[adams9802]

The only ppl i have seen arsenal buy are van persie and the young parma guy are there any others?
Trabelsi is tipped for us...and Mr. Aluminium from celta

[Scarface]

I agree with everything that you have said band hopefully we will capture Trabelsi later this week. But the one thing that I would like to see is a new centeral midfielder. With Parlour looking elsewhere and gilberto failing to convince I would really like to see a new partner for PV4 and to me it isn't EDU. He's been good but not consistent enough. I wish we would have picked up Davids. free and we can afford his wages especially if we get rid of Gilbo

yeh our central midfield has gone from bein filled with almost 2 many gud midfielders 2 mayb needin 1 other who can fit in there. personally i rly like gilberto and i r8 edu very highly aswell. its a shame parlour mite leave but wenger will have it covered ;) cesc fabregas will b gr8 in the future but its obviously 2 early 4 him at the minute, and i agree with u about davids, but his not joined ne1 yet, i dont think neway,so who nos? :D

[adams9802]

I think its a shame that Wenger has a real thing against buying players in their prime..ie over 27..it limits the players we get. He needs to buy some 1 in their prime to get us to that next level which we seem to be lacking (this only applies to the CL not the EPL) and since davids is 31 Wengers scared of buying him

[Darth Daft]

Its all about youth man in the long run, Busby and Ferguson managed Wengers final hurdle (the CL) with teams mainly built around youth and energy (with class & luck also) with the latter team of the class of '92 becoming a legacy of success that Utd will draw power - for power see money and fanbase, for years to come from now.

In my opinion Arsenal arent at that stage yet in as, yeah they have a great team but if, the manager or for instance 3-4 key players were to leave (i think you can guess who i mean) theyd be in a major shit situation to attempt to carry on the success theyve had recently at the same level never mind attacking the CL.

Wenger i think is going for long term planning for beyond when even he is the manager at Arsenal i.e aiming to leave Arsenal a long way away from when he took over by the time he leaves. Buying young players on the cheap and them selling them on for profit, or keeping them, instead of spending money on other players is a pretty good way of doing that but you just have to accept that you wont be able to buy the very best players normally, just produce them.

Everyone goes on about Man Utd having loads of cash but they only go and splash it when its really necessary. Even though its cool to spend money, from a fans view its better to buy younger players, probably why if you combine both high value transfers & young players like Reyes and Ronaldo, they are instantly popular.

Have to say though, Utd have been chucking it about a bit recently. Hope you gooners arent getting jealous. :)

[BazHilder]

Have to say though, Utd have been chucking it about a bit recently. Hope you gooners arent getting jealous.

Not in the slightest, we're still gonna be up their and a few signings by united won't have any effect on our squad. It might help them lose less than 9 games next season though.

[JoeyM]

Have to say though, Utd have been chucking it about a bit recently. Hope you gooners arent getting jealous.

As long as they keep being Djemba Djemba's, or Bellion's, I don't see why anyone would be jealous. :p

[adams9802]

were're not jealous of Fergies inability to spot good young talent. Fergie has not insight these days, he just leans on the bank account.
na

[Darth Daft]

hehe, didnt think you'd all rise to the bait quite so easily, especially after i defended Wengers transfer policy :rolleyes:

were're not jealous of Fergies inability to spot good young talent. Fergie has not insight these days, he just leans on the bank account.

au contraire my forgetful friend

Pique joins United instead of Arsenal (http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=77749&itype=466&icategoryid=123)

United sign Italy U19 prospect (http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=79192&itype=466&icategoryid=123)

and surely youre forgetting
http://www.andrewmonaco.com/metro/images/squad/18.jpg

\irritating mode - i further believe the younger Ronaldo cost less than the older Reyes, who did not make it into the poor Spanish squad for Euro 2004.

Thank you and goodnight.

[adams9802]

hehe, didnt think you'd all rise to the bait quite so easily, especially after i defended Wengers transfer policy :rolleyes:



au contraire my forgetful friend

Pique joins United instead of Arsenal (http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=77749&itype=466&icategoryid=123)

United sign Italy U19 prospect (http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=79192&itype=466&icategoryid=123)

and surely youre forgetting
http://www.andrewmonaco.com/metro/images/squad/18.jpg

\irritating mode - i further believe the younger Ronaldo cost less than the older Reyes, who did not make it into the poor Spanish squad for Euro 2004.

Thank you and goodnight.
Ok Pique I'll kind of give you that but we in there too so that has to tell you something, probably that Fergie just spies on us.

And the same with your guy at parma, you get one we get one..all wenger if you ask me

and howard is hardly a find... he's been an awsome keeper in the MLS for years..and you all know that the only good players we produce is kkeepers.

[Scarface]

hehe, didnt think you'd all rise to the bait quite so easily, especially after i defended Wengers transfer policy :rolleyes:



au contraire my forgetful friend

Pique joins United instead of Arsenal (http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=77749&itype=466&icategoryid=123)

United sign Italy U19 prospect (http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=79192&itype=466&icategoryid=123)

and surely youre forgetting
http://www.andrewmonaco.com/metro/images/squad/18.jpg

\irritating mode - i further believe the younger Ronaldo cost less than the older Reyes, who did not make it into the poor Spanish squad for Euro 2004.

Thank you and goodnight.

Reyes is about 6 months older than Ronaldo so that harldy makes a significant difference in the world of football!! howard i have 2 say is a very gud keeper but wasnt exactly a gr8 find, most alredy new of him and new he was a gud keeper, i think stack and taylor will bcum beta than him neway and they r a couple of years younger aswell! also, ronaldo actually cost more than reyes ( who may have been left out of the spain squad but boy didnt they miss him!!) ronaldo cost around £13m whereas Reyes only cost £6m in initial fees goin up 2 around £15m dependin on CL success, appearances, goals etc..and as far as comparin Reyes and Ronaldo, Reyes is far superior, ne1 who had seen him at Sevilla will no this, itll b shown ova the next few years nehow!! and wen talkin bout talented young players u need look no further than the arsenal squad!

[Jonny2J]

hehe, didnt think you'd all rise to the bait quite so easily, especially after i defended Wengers transfer policy :rolleyes:



au contraire my forgetful friend

Pique joins United instead of Arsenal (http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=77749&itype=466&icategoryid=123)

United sign Italy U19 prospect (http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=79192&itype=466&icategoryid=123)

and surely youre forgetting
http://www.andrewmonaco.com/metro/images/squad/18.jpg

\irritating mode - i further believe the younger Ronaldo cost less than the older Reyes, who did not make it into the poor Spanish squad for Euro 2004.

Thank you and goodnight.a poor spanish squad?? i wish we had ther squad, they just underperformed again, look at a squad of Valeron, Raul, Morientes, Exteberria, Joaquin, Vicente, Baraja, Xabi Alonso, Torres, Puyol, Casillas, Helguera... that aint a poor squad, this is just another attempt at fucken Man Utd and Arsenal fans tryna out do each other again.... and why u saying the older Reyes?? its not like ur talking about Bergkamp versus Ronaldo, u making it out like hes a veteran compared to Ronaldo.... it aint Reyes' fault Arsenal paid more for him than anyone else offered, they wanted hm that bad, if im not mistaken did Man Utd not pay double Ronaldo's asking price too?? ;)

[adams9802]

we may be triny to out do each other but atleast we have moarlity on our side ;)

[Darth Daft]

Reyes is about 6 months older than Ronaldo so that harldy makes a significant difference in the world of football!! howard i have 2 say is a very gud keeper but wasnt exactly a gr8 find, most alredy new of him and new he was a gud keeper, i think stack and taylor will bcum beta than him neway and they r a couple of years younger aswell! also, ronaldo actually cost more than reyes ( who may have been left out of the spain squad but boy didnt they miss him!!) ronaldo cost around £13m whereas Reyes only cost £6m in initial fees goin up 2 around £15m dependin on CL success, appearances, goals etc..and as far as comparin Reyes and Ronaldo, Reyes is far superior, ne1 who had seen him at Sevilla will no this, itll b shown ova the next few years nehow!! and wen talkin bout talented young players u need look no further than the arsenal squad!

thats nice sonny, I cant argue against stack and taylor being great goalkeepers when your manager keeps going out and signing new ones :rolleyes: and your fantastic argument that Reyes cost less than Ronaldo depending on him turning out to be a bit shit despite being far superior to the younger Ronaldo who returns from a Euro final. How he'll manage to be superior sitting on the bench for Arsenal while Ronaldo is off playing for his country in the Olympics and important World Cup qualifiers i'll leave for you to comment on.

i'll go away now and you can talk about how great Arsenal are. Didnt mean to wind you lot up, just made a post about how Wenger was right to buy young :rolleyes: the season hasnt even started yet, should be a laugh. ;)

[Scarface]

thats nice sonny, I cant argue against stack and taylor being great goalkeepers when your manager keeps going out and signing new ones :rolleyes: and your fantastic argument that Reyes cost less than Ronaldo depending on him turning out to be a bit shit despite being far superior to the younger Ronaldo who returns from a Euro final. How he'll manage to be superior sitting on the bench for Arsenal while Ronaldo is off playing for his country in the Olympics and important World Cup qualifiers i'll leave for you to comment on.

i'll go away now and you can talk about how great Arsenal are. Didnt mean to wind you lot up, just made a post about how Wenger was right to buy young :rolleyes: the season hasnt even started yet, should be a laugh. ;)

wot keepers do we actually keep on signin then?? i neva said taylor & stack were gr8, but once they get a run in the team with time i def believe theyll both bcum beta than howard. ur argument about reyes turnin out 2 b a bit shit is weak..if we win the CL in the next few years there is a stipulation in his contract where we pay sevilla around £2m extra on top of the additional transfer fee. many can c just by watchin reyes how gr8 a talent he is, whether inaki saez chose reyes or not is irrelevant, it was probily a punishment 4 him joinin an english club! and its quite a coincidence how spain lacked so much attackin prowess in euro 2004 without Reyes and Mista. saez has since left the spain hotseat so he has his just rewards. as i said we'll c ova the next few years just how gud Reyes is, ne1 who has watched him 4 sevilla destroy real on a couple of occasions and his other superb performances 4 the la liga outfit knows wot a player he is, and yes he is beta than ronaldo. if felipe scolari was manager of spain hed include reyes everytime as his a far more talented manager than saez. actions speak louder than words tho my friend and reyes' performances 4 arsenal will blow u and every1 else away next season and the seasons 4 years 2 cum afta that i assure u.. ;)
also, btw u havent wound me up, i cant speak 4 fellow arsenal fans but im just respondin with my opinions its not a case of me bein wound up.

[50!]

Do all u arsenal fans not think Jens Lehmann is a bit eccentric and does do some really stupid things sometimes and also his agression is very high.
Talking about keepers doesnt Tim Howard have a slight case of that illness where u cant stop swearing and it just comes out.

[Scarface]

Do all u arsenal fans not think Jens Lehmann is a bit eccentric and does do some really stupid things sometimes and also his agression is very high.
Talking about keepers doesnt Tim Howard have a slight case of that illness where u cant stop swearing and it just comes out.

yeh ur rite on both accounts, but thats wot makes Lehmann so interestin lol :D ..i rate him as a rly top class keeper tho..the only keeper in the prem id swap him 4 wud b probily antii niemi..while lehmann does sum outrageous thins he organises the defence superbly, while we do have a excellent back four its no coincidence our defence concedes far less goals now! he is 1 of the best shot stoppers in europe IMO and id prefer a keeper who makes obvious mistakes but is consistently very gud in goal than 2 keepers such as jerzy dudek and carlo cudicini who IMO try and save 4 the cameras and often fluff it but no1 mentions it while if jens was in the same situation he wud usually just make a comfortable save, but may commit 3 or 4 silly fouls or mistakes which get highlighted by every1.
tim howard has turets syndrome( i think thats how u spell it) so yeh he does swear & stuff apparently at times, but his only got it in a mild form ive herd so its not as bad as sum mite make out.

[Darth Daft]

Talking about keepers doesnt Tim Howard have a slight case of that illness where u cant stop swearing and it just comes out.

Tim Howard has tourettes syndrome, which in extreme cases can manifest itself in swearing and uncontrollable oubursts, but T-Ho doesnt have an extreme case of it, and therefore doesnt swear. Well, im sure he does when he intends to :)

[Scarface]

Just a little bit of news 4 Arsenal fans..Robin Van Persie will take over wiltords shirt next yr and wear the no 11 shirt, this is what arsenal mania claims, however it is only 'allegedly' at the moment, but his shirt has been spotted :rolleyes: next 2 number 11s so it looks likely he wil wear this number which isnt very surprising rly now 11 has bcum available and RVP is a left winger/ striker afta all.

http://www.arsenal-mania.com/?page=articles_controller&view=full&article=333

[JoeyM]

Is the official arsenal.com site not working for anyone else? Whenever I try to visit, it comes up with a 'This Page cannot be Found' message. At an Arsenal forum, someone had links to the official store and you could purchase the new kit. Their was no direct link from the store page, you had to enter in the direct URL to get their and someone found it. So they shut down the site to fix it.

That's what I heard at least.

[Scarface]

i dunno m8, its been workin alrite 4 me tho ova the past few months weneva ive wanted 2 access it.

[BazHilder]

Is the official arsenal.com site not working for anyone else? Whenever I try to visit, it comes up with a 'This Page cannot be Found' message. At an Arsenal forum, someone had links to the official store and you could purchase the new kit. Their was no direct link from the store page, you had to enter in the direct URL to get their and someone found it. So they shut down the site to fix it.

That's what I heard at least.

It's fine now, they don't have any decent pics of the kits though. The ones on arseweb have been removed too cos their links aren't working.

[Darth Daft]

i cant believe theres a site called 'arseweb' - that is quality.

reading in the papers this morning that Wengers gonna consider his position in October - worried? I mean there has been absolutely NO evidence of the Germans even saying they are considering Wenger as a candidate (ive seen no quotes) but as usual he comes out and gets involved with it all in the papers.

Why is he coming out with all this now?

[adams9802]

i cant believe theres a site called 'arseweb' - that is quality.

reading in the papers this morning that Wengers gonna consider his position in October - worried? I mean there has been absolutely NO evidence of the Germans even saying they are considering Wenger as a candidate (ive seen no quotes) but as usual he comes out and gets involved with it all in the papers.

Why is he coming out with all this now?

Well maybe they cotaced him discreetly? I mean how do we know..? And of course Fergie never talks to the papers he just tells them to fuck off!

[BazHilder]

Or maybe an interviewer asked him the question. That's generally why people say stuff in papers. He didn't just ring them up and say it did he?

[Darth Daft]

Well maybe they cotaced him discreetly? I mean how do we know..? And of course Fergie never talks to the papers he just tells them to fuck off!

Generally the best option with the British press if you are manager of the champions, ive got a feeling Wenger will learn that this season. They dont like winners.

[BazHilder]

Does anyone know if we've got a new keeper kit this season too?

[Scarface]

Does anyone know if we've got a new keeper kit this season too?

yeh there is m8, ill just find it and then post it, i dont think 2 much of it tho i gotta say

[Scarface]

i cant find it newhere, sorry, it was shown on a arsenal website i no that much. its a light grey colour i think, goin by memory and is a similar design 2 the 3 GK kits we had last year, not very nice tho IMO, ill say that much. ill search 4 it again l8a and if i find it ill post it in this thread. :)

[BazHilder]

i cant find it newhere, sorry, it was shown on a arsenal website i no that much. its a light grey colour i think, goin by memory and is a similar design 2 the 3 GK kits we had last year, not very nice tho IMO, ill say that much. ill search 4 it again l8a and if i find it ill post it in this thread. :)

Ok, cheers anyway. Anything would be better than that awful orange thing we had last season!

[DARK JAK]

why are u gonna buy the keepa kit as i don't no many people who buy the goalie kit their ugly and long sleeved

[BazHilder]

No I'm not gonna buy it but I still have to look at it!

[adams9802]

So any gooners (or non gooners) have anything to say about Patrick Vieira being booed yesterday when he was presented with the trophy? It seems that the Highbury faithful are pretty divided over the issue. When some of the fans started to sing his song others tried to stop it. Is he deserving of the stick he's gotten and would you boo our captain? I for one feel that as much as I'd like to belive his "I love Arsenal" crap he's just lying. that said however I think that we should not boo him and move forward. He has however used up the very last of my patience and if we have to go through this shit next summer I never forgive him.

[Darth Daft]

So any gooners (or non gooners) have anything to say about Patrick Vieira being booed yesterday when he was presented with the trophy? It seems that the Highbury faithful are pretty divided over the issue. When some of the fans started to sing his song others tried to stop it. Is he deserving of the stick he's gotten and would you boo our captain? I for one feel that as much as I'd like to belive his "I love Arsenal" crap he's just lying. that said however I think that we should not boo him and move forward. He has however used up the very last of my patience and if we have to go through this shit next summer I never forgive him.

I think he was rightly booed and like you, i dont agree with his "i always loved Arsenal really, honest" crap after the deal collapsed. I think you'd get by without him and maybe Wenger should have shown him the red card. But lets see, ive got a feeling this ones not finished yet.

One last thing on the Vieira/Madrid thing,

Didnt they offer him 65k a week max? and didnt he want 75k? if im correct this is why the transfer fell through.

Now, (and i could be wrong but) isnt Woodgate picking up 75k a week there? :confused: :confused: :confused: how can a injury prone good centre back be worth more than the all conquering French captain? somethings not adding up here.

[LiamK]

I'd never boo a Chelsea player, not even a ex-player. So booing a member of your own team, let alone your captain, is wrong in my book. Although a Chelsea player has never gone through the situation Vieira's found himself in.

However, Vieira should not have done all that 'I love Arsenal' bullshit, it's just undermining the intelligence of Arsenal's support. It's clear that he doesn't, and that the deal only fell through because, in the end, Arsenal offered him more money. I think the Arsenal fans would have much more respect for him if he

a) kept quiet
or
b) told the truth, he's stayed because his salary has increased

Rather then lying through his teeth with his whole 'I love Arsenal' which no-one is buying.

In short, booing a player of your own team is wrong. People who do that are invariably, wankers. However Vieira has been a bit of a prat himself, and you can't really say he didn't deserve it.

[adams9802]

I think he was rightly booed and like you, i dont agree with his "i always loved Arsenal really, honest" crap after the deal collapsed. I think you'd get by without him and maybe Wenger should have shown him the red card. But lets see, ive got a feeling this ones not finished yet.

One last thing on the Vieira/Madrid thing,

Didnt they offer him 65k a week max? and didnt he want 75k? if im correct this is why the transfer fell through.

Now, (and i could be wrong but) isnt Woodgate picking up 75k a week there? :confused: :confused: :confused: how can a injury prone good centre back be worth more than the all conquering French captain? somethings not adding up here.
I think though that perhaps it was more of a situation that he's in love with Wenger not arsenal ;) But David Dien did insinuate that he and Wenger were talking over at Wenger's house when Vieira showed up on the front door and was crying saying that he could leave the Arse. I think he was crying that he wasn't gonna make more money. But then again like what you say if the issue was money then why do Real not like paying their DM's enough money. Woodgate on 75 is the most insane salary. I also think that due to what the Club has admitted that if Vieira really wanted to go then he would have, coz if it was a choice regarding salary then why would he have stayed at Arsenal and earnless :confused: He still would have made more money at Real. Perhaps he looked at the teams and realized that Real are gonna be washed up pretty soon . Clearly Vieira, Woodgate and Owen weren't all gonna go either Vieira or Owen and Woodgate. I think that he's pragamatism perhaps decided it, he did after all make his decision after the COmmunity shield which perhaps proved to him where he could realize his ambitions here. But sure aint not fuckin love!

[gollan]

Well, I too believe that the issue with Patrick was a financial one. I think it's legit - that's his profession and football players are, after all, mercenaries. I also agree that he should'nt have gone with the "I love Arsenal" bullshit, but I don't really blame him - that's what every other football player would have done. Gottta keep in mind it's a lot of politics - when he was more convinced that he's going to Madrid he had to give the reasons why he is moving (champions league, dynamics in the team, etc.) and now when he stays he has to say that he loves Arsenal. Thing is, that my probable idea that he both loves Arsenal and wanted to move at the same time, you could see that he wasn't all decisive. The only difference is on which part (wanting to move or staying) of his wishes he puts the spotlight on.
Keeping that in mind - How amazing is that Fabregas kid? Wenger has truly the best nose for promising players. I think that the gunners look like they're carrying on from where they stopped, only to look up to bigger and better things.

[adams9802]

Keeping that in mind - How amazing is that Fabregas kid? Wenger has truly the best nose for promising players. I think that the gunners look like they're carrying on from where they stopped, only to look up to bigger and better things.
Cesc is gonna be insane..long term replacment though...keep in mind that while he's had 3 spectacular games his age still makes it a wee bit risky to play him alot. Wenger has said that he will rest him and protect him which is good. But if I had a choice between Cesc and Edu or Gilberto I'd choose cesc.

[Tenacious D]

What liam K said was true BUT say what dyer did then i would boo him if he refused to play were told to play

[adams9802]

What liam K said was true BUT say what dyer did then i would boo him if he refused to play were told to play
I dunno, I'd probably not considering that if someone did that to Wenger they probably would never be seen on the Highbury pitch again. Plus thats a single event. Patrick has been fucking with our heads for 4 years now......

[Fraz_Maitland]

I didn't hear him get booed, probably cos i was late to the game but I don't agree or disagree with it although i would never boo anyone in an Arsenal shirt. he didn't stay cos he wanted to he stayed because of money. nearly every year there's the Vieira to Madrid rumour and it gets boring so he can't expect everyone to be over the moon with the way he's handled the whole situation. i was more upset to hear that Sol might go and freddie to be honest. Freddie did exactly what every gooner wants a player to do when being linked with another club and squashed the rumour straight away. Our best result in Europe last year came without Vieira in Milan, but he had a pukka season last year, in my opinion his best since 2000/01 when he was brilliant. You've gotta say your better of with some1 of his ability then without it though. all in all i've got to say i am pleased he is staying. I want Dennis to remain as captain :D he's been brilliant this season with the armband and in my opinion should keep it for his last season at the club.

[adams9802]

I didn't hear him get booed, probably cos i was late to the game but I don't agree or disagree with it although i would never boo anyone in an Arsenal shirt. he didn't stay cos he wanted to he stayed because of money. nearly every year there's the Vieira to Madrid rumour and it gets boring so he can't expect everyone to be over the moon with the way he's handled the whole situation. i was more upset to hear that Sol might go and freddie to be honest. Freddie did exactly what every gooner wants a player to do when being linked with another club and squashed the rumour straight away. Our best result in Europe last year came without Vieira in Milan, but he had a pukka season last year, in my opinion his best since 2000/01 when he was brilliant. You've gotta say your better of with some1 of his ability then without it though. all in all i've got to say i am pleased he is staying. I want Dennis to remain as captain :D he's been brilliant this season with the armband and in my opinion should keep it for his last season at the club.
He got booed during the special trophy presentation. I agree that he should have come out and said something. I never thought Sol would leave...he's nearing the end of his career and why would he leave for some place that would take him the rest of career to settle in? I honestly could have gone either way on freddie. If we would have been offered the reported 15 million pounds I would think that the board would have to strongly consider it for a player who hasn't exactly been a great player for the last two years. As for Dennis with the armband I'd love to see it too considering everytime he puts it one he scores and has an absolute blinder. But that would exactly be the way to treat patrick right after he stay though. (not that he doesn't deserve it but still.....)

[Tenacious D]

I dunno, I'd probably not considering that if someone did that to Wenger they probably would never be seen on the Highbury pitch again. Plus thats a single event. Patrick has been fucking with our heads for 4 years now......
yeh true first it was manu then chelsea then real madrid arsenal dont need him to win the premiership but the champions league is another story

[BazHilder]

I didn't hear Vieira get booed either, I was sitting in the middle of the North Bank and all I could hear was mega cheering and singing of 'the vieira song'.

[DARK JAK]

why would people want to boo him anyway he stayed didn't he give the guy a rest, even if it was for money he stayed full stop

[adams9802]

Well we broke the record....Yea :D

[JoeyM]

Well we broke the record....Yea :D

Did Cesc get credited with the goal? Surely he's Arsenal's youngest ever goal scorer if he did.

[gollan]

adams did u catch the match? what happened?

[adams9802]

adams did u catch the match? what happened?
I did manage to catch it...As usual we started out strong, but failed to score. Rovers hauled themselves back into the match but at the break it ended 0-0. 5 minutes into the second period Henry scored assisted by Bergkamp. Then Henry's Corner went in off Gilberto but it managed to hit Cesc however he was not given the goal. Then three minutes after Reyes came on he scored in the 80th. Assisted by Henry no less. Henry now has3 goals and 4 assists and Reyes has scored in every game he's played in. Not fucking bad eh? Plus we're immortal....J/k ;)

[gollan]

Allright!!!!
Us football fans in Israel are really suffering as the rights to broadcast the PL were bought buy Pini Zahavi (the players' agent) and he opened a PPV channel for it. Anyhow, the office I'm working in is working on an appeal against this channel and right now we've got an injunction against it so for the time being we will get PL matches in the Cable Sport Channel. If things go really wrong I'll have to go and watch the matches in some south african pub around the corner (they got satellite).
So we are the record holders you say?
fookin goonaz :D

[Scarface]

After being linked with Angulo and Trabelsi again recently,the next player 2 b linked is none other than future england no.1 Chris Kirkland. a fee of £6m was mentioned in the mail on sunday. i rly like kirkland, he cud turn out 2 b 1 of the best keepers in the world under the rite management, but then again so cud both stack and s.taylor IMO. do fellow arsenal fans rly think we need another keeper as we already have lehmann,taylor,almunio and stack??

[BazHilder]

No neither do we need or are we going to get another keeper, we've signed 2 in 2 seasons so I can't see Wenger spending that much on another one.

[adams9802]

No neither do we need or are we going to get another keeper, we've signed 2 in 2 seasons so I can't see Wenger spending that much on another one.
Neither can I 6 mil is a ton of money to Wenger right now. We have plenty of Keepers so this really seems like a load of crap to me. I'm not to sure why we need Angulo or even Trabelsi, if we needed anyone I'd like to see us buy a central defender. Hoyte played ok but lets say Toure gets injured..we're fucked. Plus Toure and Hoyte can cover for the RB.

[Scarface]

Neither can I 6 mil is a ton of money to Wenger right now. We have plenty of Keepers so this really seems like a load of crap to me. I'm not to sure why we need Angulo or even Trabelsi, if we needed anyone I'd like to see us buy a central defender. Hoyte played ok but lets say Toure gets injured..we're fucked. Plus Toure and Hoyte can cover for the RB.

i agree with all you said there, we have senderos who is going 2 b a world class defender in a few years time but it may b a little 2 early. justin hoyte i think is a far beta right back than a centre back but shud do quite well there with toure. i wont lie, i wud like 2 have chris kirkland in our squad but i agree £6m is 2 hefty 4 a player that is not vitally needed. as 4 trabelsi i dont r8 his defensive qualities at all, i dont no y wenger is tracking him, but who am i 2 question him. angulo wud just b backup 4 our attacking midfielders and strikers, i cant c him gettin in ahead of the likes of pires,reyes,henry,bergkamp and ljungberg at the moment and of corse we have pennant and van persie also, aswell as the sidelined aliadiere.

[gollan]

Arsenal shouldn't be spending money now. Almost everybody's got a decent replacement, and even if Lehman isn't the best of keepers, he still got very good instincts and usually comes through. It's not just the money - it's the principal, even.

[adams9802]

Arsenal shouldn't be spending money now. Almost everybody's got a decent replacement, and even if Lehman isn't the best of keepers, he still got very good instincts and usually comes through. It's not just the money - it's the principal, even.
Ir really does look like we're gonna sign Angulo though....I'm not s sure why....

[Fraz_Maitland]

i think kirkland would be a quality signing but we should wait a bit to see if he can go 6 months without gettin injured then go for it. Personally for kirkland i dont think 6 mil is too much but if he carries on getting injured then i dont see the point. Lehmann Aluminia (although i havn't seen much of him) and Taylor aren't good enough IMO but i think we should give Stack a go cos when he played in the carling cup last year he looked very assured and calm in goal which is all we need. We dont need the best goalie in the world we just need a secure goalie who wont try and dribble out of his defence and wont throw the ball at center fowards and wont make us draw against spurs the day we win the league.

[BazHilder]

Ir really does look like we're gonna sign Angulo though....I'm not s sure why....

Yeah it does, midfield is the one place above all where we are blessed with plenty of talent and I can't see anywhere we need even cover.

LM - Pires, Reyes, Van Persie, Clichy
CM - Vieira, Gilberto, Edu, Fabregas, Flamini
RM - Ljungberg, Pennant

That makes at least 10 capable players across the midfield.

[adams9802]

Yeah it does, midfield is the one place above all where we are blessed with plenty of talent and I can't see anywhere we need even cover.

LM - Pires, Reyes, Van Persie, Clichy
CM - Vieira, Gilberto, Edu, Fabregas, Flamini
RM - Ljungberg, Pennant

That makes at least 10 capable players across the midfield.
Maybe he's gonna convert someone into a defender...? :confused: I have Idea why we need a striker/midfielder.... oh well Wenger knows best! :D

[Scarface]

Does anyone know if any of the guys we had on trial in the summer - a midfielder called Ne, a swedish midfielder called cristiano zwegler and a right back called duoade (not sure how 2 spell it) have been signed by Wenger? i assume they have all been let go as the only player i believe we signed out of the young trainees was Ahmed Fahti who starred as the youngest player in the African Cup of Nations 4 Egypt, he is 18 and can play anywhere along the midfield and exceptionally well at right back according 2 reports. i am just curious as i didnt hear anymore of them after the summer friendlies.

[robz18]

i know that Marco Ne and Emmanuel Eboue wasnt sighned by wenger...but he did say they were both talented and he'z keeping an eye out for them

[Scarface]

i know that Marco Ne and Emmanuel Eboue wasnt sighned by wenger...but he did say they were both talented and he'z keeping an eye out for them

o its eboue not duoade lol :o i only saw his name quickly on the teamlist in a friendly. cheers 4 the info!

[Fraz_Maitland]

Marco Ne was a quality player, i went to the friendly at barnet and he played the second half and was so calm and could knock a ball about really well, the other two i thought were absolute pants!

[Scarface]

Marco Ne was a quality player, i went to the friendly at barnet and he played the second half and was so calm and could knock a ball about really well, the other two i thought were absolute pants!

wot nationality was Marco Ne out of curiousity?

[robz18]

wot nationality was Marco Ne out of curiousity?
he'z from the ivory coast

[JoeyM]

Was Ne the right back or the center midfieilder? I though the right back looked good, especially making attacking runs. Maybe a little suspect defensively though.

[Scarface]

he'z from the ivory coast

o ok, is he an international 4 them do u no? the Ivory Coast have some quality young players, Kolo Toure refers 2 them as the african brazil lol :rolleyes:

[robz18]

Eboue's the right back and Ne'z the center midfielder

[Scarface]

Was Ne the right back or the center midfieilder? I though the right back looked good, especially making attacking runs. Maybe a little suspect defensively though.

i think Ne is the centre midfielder and edoue that right back, i may be wrong tho as i wasnt fortunate 2 c either of them play.

[DARK JAK]

i think Ne is the centre midfielder and edoue that right back, i may be wrong tho as i wasnt fortunate 2 c either of them play.

yeah your right i saw them both play, Eboue seems alright but not sure of Ne. Wenger rate's them highly but says that they won't be able to play for arsenal until a couple of years because of a workpermit

[BazHilder]

I saw them in the Amsterdam tournament and neither of them really looked anything special. We've got a deep and balanced enough squad as it is if you ask me.

[DARK JAK]

I saw them in the Amsterdam tournament and neither of them really looked anything special. We've got a deep and balanced enough squad as it is if you ask me.

yeah your right but if you had to say a weakness in the team who would it be?, i would have to say lauren i just think with him that he's vulnerable to mistakes don't get me wrong he's still good it's just that if their was a weakness he might be it.

[Scarface]

yeah your right but if you had to say a weakness in the team who would it be?, i would have to say lauren i just think with him that he's vulnerable to mistakes don't get me wrong he's still good it's just that if their was a weakness he might be it.

yeh i agree, i like Lauren, his definitely 1 of the better right backs in the Prem, but in the back 5 i think only he and possibly Lehmann could be adequately replaced at the moment. Justin Hoyte is just about ready 2 take Laurens place though, so i dont think we need 2 buy another right back, if we do though id prefer Friedrich, the German right back who plays 4 Hertha Berlin i believe, he is very solid, id much rather him than Trabelsi, who i dont rate much at all, he wudnt b an improvement on Lauren IMO. Trabelsi seems 2 b highly rated bcos of his tag as the fastest right back in the world, id prefer defensive skills a bit more than that tho :D

[DARK JAK]

i forgot about lehmann he's a weakness to so like we said before frey for him

[Scarface]

i forgot about lehmann he's a weakness to so like we said before frey for him

lol, yep just snap Frey up 4 about £4m from Parma and slowly let Justin Hoyte settle in the team so he can then take over from Lauren (who can then play some games in midfield and be a replacement right back). Our defence is still very good tho, we dont need 2 worry about that 2 much as Sol should be coming back soon and the whole defence plays beta with him in the team, especially Kolo Toure, to continue the KOLOSOL partnership :D But if their is some improving to be done in the team it is probably at right back and the goalkeeper.

[Scarface]

just thought id post the Arsenal squad to be able to see more easily where the little weaknesses could be..if put the players number in brackets to the left and their age to the right, btw,i did this myself, and didnt take it off a site so i may have got the ages wrong by a year or so.


Arsenal Squad

GKs

(1)Jens Lehmann (34) Germany
(13)Stuart Taylor (23) England
Manuel Almunio (27) Spain
(33)Graham Stack (22)( year loan to Millwall) Ireland

DFs

(23)Sol Campbell (29) England
(28)Kolo Toure (23) Ivory Coast
(3)Ashley Cole (23) England
(12)Lauren (27) Cameroon
(20)Phillipe Senderos (18) Switzerland
(18)Pascal Cygan (28) France
(31)Justin Hoyte (18) England
(22)Gael Clichy (19) France
Frankie Simek (19) USA
Ryan Garry (19) England
Danny Karbassiyoon (18) USA
Ahmed Fahti (18) Egypt(player we signed in summer, he was the youngest player in the African Nations Cup,representing Egypt. a lot has been said about him on ANR)

MFs

(4)Patrick Vieira (28) France
(7)Robert Pires (30) France
(19)Gilberto Silva (28) Brazil
(8)Freddie Ljungberg (27) Sweden
(17)Edu (25) Brazil
(15)Francesc Fabregas (17) Spain
(21)Jermaine Pennant (20) England
(11)Robin Van Persie (20) Holland
(16)Mathieu Flamini (20)France
John Spicer (19) England
Sebastien Svard (21) Denmark
Johannes Djorou (18) Switzerland
FWs

(14)Thierry Henry (27) France
(9)Jose Antonio Reyes (21) Spain
(10)Dennis Bergkamp (35) Holland
(30)Jeremie Aliadiere (21) France
(37)David Bentley (19)(year loan to Norwich) England
Quincy Owusu Abeyie (17) Holland
Niklas Bendtner (16) Denmark
Arturo Lupoli (17) Italy
Adam Birchall (19) Wales(Welsh under 21 star Currently on a months loan at TA's Wycombe, and has instantly become a hit by scoring some goals, including a brace at the weekend 2 help wycombe win 2-0!)

All positions look covered in my eyes now, weakness,wot weakness? :D ;)

[Thierry14]

Hold the front page!!!...
What has Ralph ever done wrong, he is a great right-back...
I truly believe that there are few better going forward in the world than him!, Give me Ralph over Gary Neville any day!...

[Scarface]

I like lauren a lot but feel he could be replaced by a better right back, i.e Justin Hoyte ;) we have the future England right back at the club already IMO so dont need 2 spend money on a new right back. But, yeh id choose him ova G.Neville any day of the week 2 :D

[adams9802]

So what ya'll think of the Edu deal? I think he's be told he's better than he actually is, spending way to much time stroking himself in the Brazil camp. Doesn't want to stay at Arsenal?! after 1 good season? Good riddence you greasy ponce, we have Fabregas and Flamini to replace you. (oh and Barca don't want you anyways)