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im not a man u supporter i support chelsea but i rate man u coz da football dey play and if dey cant beat u wid football dell kik u
im not a man u supporter i support chelsea but i rate man u coz da football dey play and if dey cant beat u wid football dell kik u
Could you repeat that in Mancunian please.
Darth Daft
23-08-2005, 23:46
United look like they will win the games they drew last season, and the ones they lost despite dominating games like Norwich and Everton last season.
the only thing im not 100% on is this, just a bad feeling that the inability to finish off teams is still lurking , sometimes i think ronaldo can be a one man plan b but that wont work all season.
but agree with everything else you say man. :cool:
darth i respect ur views cuz me and u are the only utd fans talkin sense
we dont need cicinho
we could have done with a centre midfielder as a long term replacement for keane as i cant see smith fulfilling that role as much as id like him too
park looks a gr8 buy but with the 4-3-3 fergie is playing when ronaldo is fit will giggs and park BOTH sit on the bench
Who do you reckon would be a realistic replacement for keano?,i reckon Gattuso.
i would have sed essien in may as he looked certain to join us but now id say prob ballack if he decides to join nxt year
God,i would love to have Ballack at Utd,he is one of my favourite players.
Ballack is more attack minded, whereas I think a more Defensive Midfielder would suit the role.
I say use our resources, use Smith, give him a whole season there next year. See how he goes, in Pre-Season he looked superb, very sharp and commited. Seemed like he'd being playing there for years, definetely looked like his natural position. And if needs be, we could also use his Attacking experience if we want him to push on more. So I say by using Smudgers we basically get a 2 in 1 when its needed.
I am not saying I wouldn't like to see Ballack at United, but I don't think he is fully required...
Agreed,would you agree with me that Gattuso is a good option to go for if Smith didn't do the job?
Depends, could be risky, but could also be worth it.
But Smith won't fail, mark my words.
Nope i don't really see smithy failing to be honest.If he's given time in central then things should be fine in no time.I do however miss him being further up and grabbing goals though but if he plays central more then he'll get more games with the front 2 most likely Ruud and Rooney! :)
FURIOUS Sir Alex Ferguson told a group of Manchester United fans who confronted him over the Malcolm Glazer takeover: "If you don't like it, go and watch Chelsea".
Fergie became embroiled in an amazing row with the supporters just minutes after United touched down in Budapest for the second leg of tonight's Champions League qualifier with Debrecen.
The fans accused Fergie of "selling out" over Glazer's £790million takeover and demanded to know why the United boss had not been more vocal in opposing the buy-out.
According to the United fans website redissue.co.uk, a supporter confronted chief executive David Gill then turned his attention to Ferguson.
The fan said: "You've f***** us over too, you could've spoken out about it."
Sir Alex replied: "I've got close friends who've been working with me here for 15 years. They come first in all of this."
Fan: "So don't the fans come first?"
Fergie: "Well I suppose they do come somewhere."
Fan: "You what? That's well out of order."
Sir Alex: "If you don't like it, go and watch Chelsea."
Fan: "The fans have been screwed right over. It costs me over £20 a game as it is."
Sir Alex: "It costs more than that at Chelsea - go and watch them."
Ferguson also told the fans they should have taken their chance to buy the club back in 1991, when it floated on the Stock Market and became a plc.
The unseemly row in front of United officials was the worst possible preparation for Fergie ahead of the second leg of tonight's Champions League qualifier against Hungarian champions Debrecen.
Im sorry if this is wrong but i agree with fergie here!
-=[101st]=-
24-08-2005, 04:23
i agree with fergie also, he cannot say anything bad about glazer because he is his boss, those fans suck, they're wankers, and he is right, go watch chelsea
=-']i agree with fergie also, he cannot say anything bad about glazer because he is his boss, those fans suck, they're wankers, and he is right, go watch chelsea
Fans who oppose Glazer are wankers for not wanting their club ladened with debts of up to a billion pounds?
As for the story, it was somebody from Red Issue who actually confronted Fergie and Gill and it hasn't been confirmed so there's a good chance it's a load of bollocks.
With the greatest respect to Red Ish, it does sound very 'red issue' to me.
AgentZero
25-08-2005, 13:36
fcuk off.......im not sayin hes sellin out but the fans have a more than legitamate arguement
Lost seraphim
25-08-2005, 15:59
eventually everybody will have to realize that there's nothing they can do about the glazer situation, they're not going to just get up and leave because the fans don't like them, don't want to watch games at OT? I'm sure there are ppl lining up to take your place
7RONALDO7
25-08-2005, 16:03
Group D:
Manchester United
Villareal
Lille
Benfica
Not an easy group imo.
Villareal are the only team that may give man utd a real problem, with the likes of riquelme and Forlan.
7RONALDO7
25-08-2005, 17:07
Lille came second in the French league and "i think" Benfica won the portugal league.
And knowing United, I can seeing us slipping up and letting in needless away goals.
Those fans surely have a point. Fergie cant handle the arguement and keeps saying "go to Chelsea!"
Man Yoo wouldve been nowhere without their fans.
Lille came second in the French league and "i think" Benfica won the portugal league.
And knowing United, I can seeing us slipping up and letting in needless away goals.
Yeah, Benfica won the league.
As for the draw, realistically we should be able to beat all the teams in the group.
I hope Forlan doesn't haunt us!!
I'm not sure that he will have as good a season as last year but he is a good player.
I will be pissed off if he scores against us though.
chris248
25-08-2005, 19:12
that will be a very competitive group but in the champions league if you want to win it you need to beat the best teams and i don't think you would class any of the three in that category. all the teams are quite good and can play good football. villareal are the biggest potential for a slip up but the defence looks much stronger this season with van der sar behind them, may cut out any early mistakes in the matches. they will also know forlan and how he plays so may be able to deal with him better.
the side is getting stronger and plays a type of football that will suit the champions league.
jthk2004
26-08-2005, 00:09
Lille came second in the French league and "i think" Benfica won the portugal league.
And knowing United, I can seeing us slipping up and letting in needless away goals.
lilie now is never the same team last season. so there's 6 points for u. benfica are potential banana skins, but i cannot see man u slipping. at least 4 points man u will get. so u don't even netta beat villareal to reach the knockout stage...
-=[101st]=-
26-08-2005, 01:13
Fans who oppose Glazer are wankers for not wanting their club ladened with debts of up to a billion pounds?
Thats not what i said.. I said that fergie cant say shit, are you going to bag out your boss on international TV? to expect fergie to this is ridiculous...
AgentZero
27-08-2005, 00:55
notice how the three 3R's(Roo, Ron and Ruud) are scorin most of the goals good to see from our very potent strikeforce
Ronaldo7
27-08-2005, 12:32
Does anybody else think we need a new central midfielder, as in cover for Scholes and Keane? if Scholes did get injured (touch wood) who would we play there? Fletcher? great potential but more of a passer than than scholes and not enough attitude, Smith has not settled into the role yet, Miller? same again lack of experriance and not enough of an attacking player. We should've signed Ballack or Van der Vaart when we had the chance.
o0oGedo0o
27-08-2005, 12:35
Ballack might be still at hand, bayern gave him 6 weeks to decide his future with the club, that was last week, maybe he'll come around in Jan transfers window.
Ronaldo7
27-08-2005, 12:40
To be honest i would rather see Van der Vaart than Balllack because Ballack would NOT be prepared to sit on the bench until Scholes came off (if ever) where as Van der Vaart would probably be more accepting to it, not being as an authoritive figure in world football and not as large an ego as Ballack is. Mabye when Keane retires (end of this season alot of people have been saying) would be a better time to go for Ballack
AgentZero
27-08-2005, 12:41
i think we should steal Postiga...he was quite good against the Arse in the amsterdam cup.....
o0oGedo0o
27-08-2005, 12:46
it's really crap that i don't get to watch the premierleague (cause of the subscribtions) but i think the best signing this year was Van Der Sar, not that i underestimate Park.
Ronaldo7
27-08-2005, 12:46
Out of any player in the world (disregarding the fact they would never move, or that the transfer would be 80 squillion pounds) who would you most like to come to Man U? I would go for Kaka', or possibly....... Nedved, great footballer and great hair as well!
AgentZero
27-08-2005, 12:56
Nedved would be a waste of squillions because he's 30+.....Kaka' would be good but won't work well w/ ron and roon coz hes a ball hog.
id say sign Schweinsteigger(sp?), Yeste, Gattuso and Maxi Lopez.....
Ronaldo7
27-08-2005, 13:06
Gattuso is a great idea, as well as Schweinsteigger but i dont know about Yeste or Maxi Lopez. I would still plump for Kaka' tho or even Rosicky,I think we need a real quality playmaker to supply the ammo for Ruud. Side Note To be honest with Gary Neville pushing 30 now i think we should be considering replacing him, Ramos anyone?
Just hit me who would be a great replacement for scholes, Sneijder (sp?)
Fast, great crossing, the only thing letting him down is his tackling
AgentZero
27-08-2005, 13:51
does any just get pissed off at real and chelsea.....those bastards are pretty much linked with every talented youngster...we were tipped to sign Cicinho and now they apparantely have secured a deal...Ramos looked like going to the EPL..(arse or utd) and he's prolly heading off to Real...Baptista, wright-phillips...ROBBEN!!!!.
Ronaldo7
28-08-2005, 13:59
Dont forget Essien as well, at the beginning of the summer he said he would like a move to Man U, but as soon as Chelski came in he changed his mind and said it was his dream to play for them,fucking sellout. I think we still have a lot of pull though because Mourinho buys world class players and pretty soon these young hopefulls are going to realise they probably wont get a chance playing there. Arsenal use alot of youngsters, but if you're English you probably wont get a chance, so we have an advantage in the home market as well, i.e Stewart Downing.
Gattuso is a great idea, as well as Schweinsteigger but i dont know about Yeste or Maxi Lopez. I would still plump for Kaka' tho or even Rosicky,I think we need a real quality playmaker to supply the ammo for Ruud. Side Note To be honest with Gary Neville pushing 30 now i think we should be considering replacing him, Ramos anyone?
Just hit me who would be a great replacement for scholes, Sneijder (sp?)
Fast, great crossing, the only thing letting him down is his tacklingdream on
Ronaldo7
28-08-2005, 14:11
Michael Owen - Dream On
Michael Owen - Dream Onit's not me who needs telling that, tell that to the Chairman and Manager... me and numerous Newcastle fans know he won't be coming that's why we won't be arsed when he goes to Liverpool as we weren't expecting him anyways
Ronaldo7
28-08-2005, 14:40
At least you have Luque, quality signing there.
Ronaldo7
28-08-2005, 18:00
2-0! 2-0! 2-0! wahay!
Yes the win was never in doubt, rooney, ruud and ronaldo where fantastic so was Van der Saar. 2-0 never really justified how well United played in the 2nd half. Also how bad was that ref?
7RONALDO7
28-08-2005, 19:11
Yes the win was never in doubt, rooney, ruud and ronaldo where fantastic so was Van der Saar. 2-0 never really justified how well United played in the 2nd half. Also how bad was that ref?
BAD? The ref needs shooting.........Ronaldo was being took out left, right and centre, but just because it was Ronaldo, the ref didnt give it.
Rooney is a different class!!
Papa Lazarou
28-08-2005, 19:13
Good solid result for us today. I was impressed with Fletcher as well as the usual suspects and O'Shea did well in the second half. Maybe he's our Gary Neville replacement?
BAD? The ref needs shooting.........Ronaldo was being took out left, right and centre, but just because it was Ronaldo, the ref didnt give it.
Rooney is a different class!!maybe he shouldn't have a reputation as a diver then
7RONALDO7
28-08-2005, 20:59
maybe he shouldn't have a reputation as a diver then
Yes but today he was being foaled all over.
I think 7Ronaldo7 means "fouled", yea the dirty geordie gas-bags where all over ronaldo today and carr was trying to rip ronaldos shirt off!
I think 7Ronaldo7 means "fouled", yea the dirty geordie gas-bags where all over ronaldo today and carr was trying to rip ronaldos shirt off!yer he had his arm round his arm, erm i'd say your exaggerating a fair bit like, although maybe Shay would have got their as the legend that is Jamie Redknapp pointed out it was definately a foul.... and not getting decision's by referee's? well now you know how the rest of the premiership has felt for 13 years against you lot
7RONALDO7
28-08-2005, 23:18
I think 7Ronaldo7 means "fouled", yea the dirty geordie gas-bags where all over ronaldo today and carr was trying to rip ronaldos shirt off!
Yeh I did lol.....I sort of went blank when trying to spell it for some reason. ;)
newcastle fans should be very concerned about how easily their players heads dropped after the first goal,altough steven taylor looks a fantastic player and a future england international.one of the reasons i love it when we beat newcastle is to see the look on the face of that fat,sweaty ugly geordie bastard freddy sheaperd.
Ronaldo7
29-08-2005, 00:39
Does anybody else think both Fletcher and O'Shea had very poor games? And why did Fergie bring on Park 9 mins from time? he looks like a really good player and we could have done with him coming on alot earlier. He only got 3 touches!
Does anybody else think both Fletcher and O'Shea had very poor games?
JOS was a bit sloppy. He hit a few aimless passes, especially in the first half. But I have to say that he got down the right wing very well on a lot of occasions and perhaps that wasn't as evident on the telly because noone picked him out with a pass. You have to remember that he isn't as comfortable with being played at right back either.
As for Fletch, I was actually very impressed with his work ethic. He's not the most skillful player or the most outstanding by any means, but he tracks runners and chases down the ball for 90 minutes. He's also a good battler too. My only criticism of him is that he never looks dangerous when he goes forward, I do expect big things from the lad in the future though.
And why did Fergie bring on Park 9 mins from time? he looks like a really good player and we could have done with him coming on alot earlier.
Park was warming up to come on at about 50 minutes when the scores were still 0-0, but when we took the lead we didn't really need to make any changes to look for the goal.
As for Fletch, I was actually very impressed with his work ethic. He's not the most skillful player or the most outstanding by any means, but he tracks runners and chases down the ball for 90 minutes. He's also a good battler too. My only criticism of him is that he never looks dangerous when he goes forward, I do expect big things from the lad in the future though.i really rate "Fletch" he's got one of the best distribution's around as he never seems to waste a pass, he always makes the correct decision, whether he needs to play a 50 yarder or a short 6 yard pass, he always chooses correctly, excellent technical ability
the thing missing from his game though is he's a bit slow, and as pace seems to be more and more of an element in today's game that could be his problem, but if he learns positioning too you won't really know about his pace
the thing missing from his game though is he's a bit slow, and as pace seems to be more and more of an element in today's game that could be his problem, but if he learns positioning too you won't really know about his pace
Yeah, his pace does let him down. He also has a tendency to get out-muscled in midfield sometimes. There's talk about him being Keano's long-term replacement, and Keane himself has tipped him for great things in the future. There's aren't many players more tenacious than him though and if he continues developing and learning at United then he's got a bright future.
AgentZero
29-08-2005, 12:22
Im lovin it....we have such a strong squad, this season and the fact that RVN is hittin them in again!
Ronaldo7
29-08-2005, 12:55
The only thing missing from the squad now is an attacking midfielder as cover for scholes, thats why I would really like to see Van der Vaart come.
The only thing missing from the squad now is an attacking midfielder as cover for scholes, thats why I would really like to see Van der Vaart come.no chance......... because he's just went to Hamburg ;)
7RONALDO7
29-08-2005, 13:12
no chance......... because he's just went to Hamburg ;)
Thats a real big shame as he is a great player, going to a not so good team.
Ronaldo7
29-08-2005, 13:13
I would imagine there are plenty of other midfielders out there with the quality we need eg Sneijder, Rosicky, Aimar, etc give Van der Vaart the time he needs to see Hamburg are shit and the lure of a bigger club will be too much.
o0oGedo0o
29-08-2005, 13:20
i don't think we'll sign anyone soon though right? When does the transfer window close?
Ronaldo7
29-08-2005, 13:23
tomorrow isnt it?
Papa Lazarou
29-08-2005, 13:24
we won't sign anyone else now and we don't need to just yet. our squad is strong at the moment and we still have Fortune, Solskjaer and Saha to come back so theres three more options already. I think we may sign someone in January probably a right-back
Ronaldo7
29-08-2005, 13:26
Who though? most of the best right-backs are at big clubs already and though i think Brown is a good player i dont think right-back is his best position.
Papa Lazarou
29-08-2005, 13:29
I don't know many right-backs to be honest with you but i think that it is a position where we need back-up even though i think O'Shea can play it well.
7RONALDO7
29-08-2005, 13:29
Thats why we were in for Cicinho but unfortunally Madrid got him.
Papa Lazarou
29-08-2005, 13:31
Man thats confusing, theres a Ronaldo7 and a 7Ronaldo7!! Can one of you change your name please?
Also does anyone have any info on how our loanees are doing?
7RONALDO7
29-08-2005, 13:33
Im the older and has more posts :D :D :D
Ronaldo7
29-08-2005, 13:34
The weird thing is we registerd at the same time as well! ooooooooooh
Plus unless i can have Feck Off Cup Im not changing it!
Also does anyone have any info on how our loanees are doing?
The site is a bit dire, but http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=228965&i type=466&icategoryid=120
AgentZero
30-08-2005, 00:17
i think scholes doesn't need a cover for this season...hes still in good nick and has signed till 2009 i think, so we'll see a replacement for him in the mid season window....suggestions: Schweinsteigger, Aimar, Juninho(i hope he's not going to be like kleb) and possibly Guti....
7RONALDO7
30-08-2005, 00:21
I like Guti however I feel he is like a Fletcher....a good player but not good enough to be in Real Madrid or United.
Ronaldo7
30-08-2005, 00:35
Sniejder or Rosicky would get my vote, even though I have only seen Rosicky play a couple of times, he has really impressed me. Plus aren't Dortmund supposed to be on the verge of collapse? we could get him cheap. Didn't Aimar say a while back he wanted to go to Liverpool anyway?
AgentZero
05-09-2005, 23:43
anyone heard about united following american cb..onyuwe oguchi(sp?).....he plays in belgium for standard liege.....i bdont kno how good is he, anyone watch the jupiler liga?
o0oGedo0o
06-09-2005, 14:33
Never heard of him, if he's in winning eleven nine you could check his stats and find out if he's good. I know some of the stats are rubbish but who knows?
Phatmann
06-09-2005, 17:05
Here's a bit about him: http://www.yanks-abroad.com/content.php?mode=players&id=0022
AgentZero
07-09-2005, 12:12
oh yeh..and phatmann2003, a fresh batch of knee related injury is troublin OGS....yet again :realmad:
A bit of good news Obi Mikel has rejected chelsea and will join man utd in the January transfer window.
Phatmann
07-09-2005, 17:39
oh yeh..and phatmann2003, a fresh batch of knee related injury is troublin OGS....yet again :realmad:
Yeah, I heard :( , anyone go a link to this story? cos I want to know how much longer he's gonna be out.
Obi Mikel - good news, just as long as he hasnt been forced into choosing us, and he does want to play for us.
Guillermo
07-09-2005, 18:07
Has Mikel even been seen again? He's like a reality version of Where's Wally
Phatmann
07-09-2005, 18:13
Has Mikel even been seen again? He's like a reality version of Where's Wally
:lol: , I guess he must have been seen, otherwise he wouldn't have been able to agree to join man utd.
pro maniac
07-09-2005, 18:33
i havent seen him play before but if he has caused this much aggro he must be something special eh?
o0oGedo0o
07-09-2005, 20:46
where does Obi Mikel play?
Phatmann
07-09-2005, 23:05
where does Obi Mikel play?
centre mid.
We Could Have Had Vieira
Sir Alex Ferguson rejected the chance to sign Patrick Vieira this summer - because the former Arsenal skipper had misled Manchester United too many times in the past. Fergie revealed he was told at the end of last season that Vieira would be available but the United boss did not take the offer seriously because of his previous failed attempts to land the French midfielder. Fergie admitted he was taken by surprise when Vieira finally broke his nine-year association with Arsenal by joining Juventus in a £13million deal. "We were told that Vieira was available at the end of last season," said Fergie. "But we've been down that road so many times where we're told he wants to sign for United and then he ends up staying at Arsenal. So I dismissed it and then, of course, it became a reality. But whether Arsenal would have sold him to us is another matter. I don't think they would have. In an ideal world we'd like to add another experienced midfield player in the Roy Keane mould to our squad. I do not see anyone out there at the moment and I think Alan Smith can do a great job there for us."
David McDonnell, Daily Mirror
Has Mikel even been seen again? He's like a reality version of Where's Wally
:laugh:
I take my hat off, I was actually laughing out loud there.
Fergie's right though, there is no way Arsenal would have sold Vieira to us. But as he also states, Alan Smith is the player to take over Roy Keane and I too feel this way.
o0oGedo0o
08-09-2005, 23:55
but alan smith is an attacking player, i think he'll be more of an offensive midfield than a defensive one
7RONALDO7
09-09-2005, 00:13
Mikel is the replacement for Keane, thats why SAF hasn't baught a DMF. But as Mikel wont be comming till january, Smith will replace him.
Phatmann
09-09-2005, 09:46
Mikel is the replacement for Keane, thats why SAF hasn't baught a DMF. But as Mikel wont be comming till january, Smith will replace him.
Keane will still be first team this season, and Smith has a lot to learn before he can take over from Keane.
Chucky907
09-09-2005, 09:58
mikel is good or not good player?
AgentZero
09-09-2005, 10:00
Thats bloody good news!!! Jon Obi Mikel....he's still a bit of a no name but a cover for Keane is important, i hear he is a specialist Holding Mid which is a one thing Utd desperately need.
Anyone read on ManUtd.com that we could of had Viera if Fergie even showed any interest....what woderful things that would have become tru...i can see the relationship with SAF and Fergie going strength to strength if in the case arsenal sell us their skipper.
Thats bloody good news!!! Jon Obi Mikel....he's still a bit of a no name but a cover for Keane is important, i hear he is a specialist Holding Mid which is a one thing Utd desperately need.
Anyone read on ManUtd.com that we could of had Viera if Fergie even showed any interest....what woderful things that would have become tru...i can see the relationship with SAF and Fergie going strength to strength if in the case arsenal sell us their skipper.
Has he got a split personality now then? :D
AgentZero
09-09-2005, 10:28
uhhh.......didn't we all knoe that?....i mean SAF and Keano
Ronaldo_is_fat
09-09-2005, 12:12
I thought that Viera made a foul comment on Manutd before and so why would he be interested to join them?
AgentZero
11-09-2005, 02:47
F*** nothing i hate more than not notching a win against city...:realmad:
Papa Lazarou
11-09-2005, 17:29
good news about Mikel. I hope the fans wont turn on him because of all the Chelsea stuff
Charlie: 9
12-09-2005, 00:54
Is Mikel any good like...?
good news about Mikel. I hope the fans wont turn on him because of all the Chelsea stuff
He's still a considerable distance away from becoming a United player.
Papa Lazarou
14-09-2005, 21:40
He's still a considerable distance away from becoming a United player.
how so?
anyway im a bit dissapointed with just a draw tonight against Villareal we should have won it and probably deserved to. It was a shame to see Rooney act like a pillock and get sent off.
it was quite lucky at the end when it hit Ferdinand on the head and then it hit the bar.
Guillermo
14-09-2005, 21:49
Thought we could of won it tonight, first half were the better team, could've scored on a few occassions. After the Rooney sending off, I knew it was over, and we had to play for a draw now. Didn't create one real chance after the sending off (from what I recall) and Villarreal were dominant from there on.
It will be tough against Benfica without Rooney, Fergie will have to re-organise the team, might pack a 5 man midfield, with Ruud as a lone striker, with Giggs and Ronaldo as wide men pushing up to support Ruud. But what I really want is Giggs to get a free role position, I remember him working wonders with that freedom previously in the Champions League. Extra pressure too after Benfica got a last gasp victory over Lille.
Extra pressure too after Benfica got a last gasp victory over Lille.
And we damn deserved it!!! :D
Hope we and United go through.
Juan gerard
14-09-2005, 21:59
you guys a draw at villareal is a great result, they beat barca there last season!!! im pleased with all but rooney, but hey cantona got sent off loads of times and is he any less of a legend? if we want rooney they we get the whole package, temper and all even if he was stupid! a good result in a tough group i grantee the rest of the group will lose there.
From how i heard it! rooney seemed like a right twat with what he done to the ref! I heard he didnt deserve the first yellow tho! i put 500 on a draw in the betting forum so thats good but i was hoping we could get off to a good start! any news on heinze?
NikE
Phatmann
15-09-2005, 12:09
http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=307888&cpid=8&CLID=&lid=3&title=Heinze+to+undergo+knee+s can&channel=premiership
AgentZero
15-09-2005, 13:35
good game...dominated in large patches, great to see ronaldo playing so soon...although did anyone notice he didn't take on the defenders as he usually does....he passed and created some plays (well tried)
Rooney definately did not deserve the 1st yellow....but if Milton Nielson was a good ref and not a trigger happy he should of calmed players down and warned them instead of brandishing the red....he's just as petulent(sp?) as rooney is as most of us have seen in previous incidents.
thoughts?
Morientes19
15-09-2005, 13:37
You man fans looking forward to Sunday??
AgentZero
15-09-2005, 13:40
easy win....
Morientes19
15-09-2005, 13:44
easy win....
Exactly what i was thinking...
Liverpool will win. No Keane, Heinze, Brown, Fortune, Saha.
Crouch will score! lol
AgentZero
15-09-2005, 13:48
.....wrong thread to mention that hombre.....Easy win for United....the last 3 players mentioned hasn't appeared in a 1st team squad for a while....scousers gonna take it to scouser....i predict rooney will play brills after his petulent display
Charlie: 9
15-09-2005, 14:09
United will beat Liverpool. Rooney will make up for his stupidity... 2-0.
That ref yesterday has some kind of ego problem, if that was collina or someone they would of just had a word with him telling him to calm down. But a draw is Ok.
United VS Pool will be a good game not sure of the result.
king reyes
15-09-2005, 17:01
Rooney's the one with the ego problem,Singh! I think refs in the Prem always take Ronney too lightly. They're all like " Just tell him off and he'll stop".Thee's no such thing in the rules as "tell off reule breaker instead of cautioning or sending off".Rooney has to understand that if he's to lead you guys to CL glory.
Charlie: 9
15-09-2005, 17:23
When the bet comes out, ill back United, easily!
how so?
anyway im a bit dissapointed with just a draw tonight against Villareal we should have won it and probably deserved to. It was a shame to see Rooney act like a pillock and get sent off.
FIFA have ordered him to return to Lyn Oslo, and he's pleaded with FIFA to cancel any transfer from United, because he doesn't want to play for United. According to him, he wants to go to Chewsea... but both of these comments are 99% motivated by John Shittu.
To be fair the lad looked delighted when he signed for us before all this began.
AgentZero
16-09-2005, 09:00
That ref yesterday has some kind of ego problem, if that was collina or someone they would of just had a word with him telling him to calm down. But a draw is Ok.
United VS Pool will be a good game not sure of the result.
agree with 110%...Kim Milton Nielson is almost as or even more petulent than Wayne...he's the much older and wiser and being a ref emotions should not affect you...he should of at least talked to wayne and calmed him down.
Heinze is out for the rest of the season apparently.
http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=308327&cpid=8&CLID=&lid=2&title=HEINZE+OUT+FOR+THE+SEASO N&channel=football_home
Ok... that means our slim chance of winning the title this year has just disappeared.
No.... only good thing to come out of this is that richardson will get a run it. Heinze had only back from injury recently aswell.
Phatmann
16-09-2005, 14:09
Heinze is out for the rest of the season apparently.
http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=308327&cpid=8&CLID=&lid=2&title=HEINZE+OUT+FOR+THE+SEASO N&channel=football_home
Ok... that means our slim chance of winning the title this year has just disappeared.
:crymore: Now we're gonna have to face having John O'Shea play for a lot of the season. Unless Quinton comes back soon (I really hope he does).
Phatmann
16-09-2005, 14:10
Some good news, Saha isn't going to rush back from his injury :)
http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=308285&CPID=8&CLID=1&lid=&title=Saha's+slow+progress&channel=premiership
:crymore: Now we're gonna have to face having John O'Shea play for a lot of the season. Unless Quinton comes back soon (I really hope he does).
Exactly.
I can't handle a season of John O'Shea at left back...
Surely now even the most optimistic reds on the site must be able to see that our inactivity in the transfer market will cost us dearly this season.
chris248
16-09-2005, 18:58
Exactly.
I can't handle a season of John O'Shea at left back...
Surely now even the most optimistic reds on the site must be able to see that our inactivity in the transfer market will cost us dearly this season.
yep, some new defenders were needed during the summer but not bought. i think that lee who spurs have signed should have been bought. would have helped park settle in and also gave us more depth in the defence.
i hope that richardson gets given a chance now to see if he can handle the pressure at united. however i think once fortune is back to full fitness he will be fergusons first choice left back.
i hope that richardson gets given a chance now to see if he can handle the pressure at united. however i think once fortune is back to full fitness he will be fergusons first choice left back.
Fortune's never been United quality, and he should never be more than a squad player in a team with title aspirations. It's bad enough having John O'Shea a fish out of water on the right, we now have Kieran Richardson floundering on the left.
Kieran's a decent youngster. He's quick and he's a professional but he's not a left back. I've yet to be shown that he can tackle and he certainly isn't strong enough to fill that role.
Harry-Kewell
16-09-2005, 19:13
Kieran's a decent youngster. He's quick and he's a professional but he's not a left back. I've yet to be shown that he can tackle and he certainly isn't strong enough to fill that role.
You're lucky (or we're unlucky) we don't have a good right-sided midfielder otherwise we'd be able to exploit that area.
our squad isnt good enough this season to win anything in my oppinion. as for heinze being out injured i think rather than relying on richardson and fortune at left back, but silvestre back there and play with john o'shea, whose more comfortable in the middle or wes brown who's class when he's on form at centre back
You man fans looking forward to Sunday??
Biggest game of the season.
Phatmann
16-09-2005, 20:21
Biggest game of the season.
I'm certainly looking forward to it, even if we don't have Heinze, cos I think it'll be a great game. Liverpool 2-3 Man Utd :)
yusuf eeli
16-09-2005, 21:42
A big lost loosing Heinze but i'm sure O'Shea will do a good job. Going to be a good match but it seems Liverpool are out of form in the premiership so i go for a 3-0 to United.
Guillermo
16-09-2005, 21:47
Liverpool aren't really out of form. I think it could be 0-0 as that seems to be the scoreline Liverpool are always getting in the Premiership. Liverpool still haven't conceded a goal yet.
Phatmann
16-09-2005, 21:51
I can see a few goals though due to gary neville (he's still out?) and gabriel heinze being out, with Richardson and O'Shea coming in :mellow: Van Der Sar is gonna have to be on top form here, and so do Rooney and Ruud.
Papa Lazarou
16-09-2005, 21:53
im goin for a 2-1 Man U win. I think O'Shea is a great player and will be good cover for left-back but as Neville is still out then Richardson will have to play left-back or maybe put Silvestre left-back and bring in Pique centre-back as he is an amazing talent.
Guillermo
16-09-2005, 21:54
We really could of done with getting Cicinho in the transfer window.
Phatmann
16-09-2005, 21:58
im goin for a 2-1 Man U win. I think O'Shea is a great player and will be good cover for left-back but as Neville is still out then Richardson will have to play left-back or maybe put Silvestre left-back and bring in Pique centre-back as he is an amazing talent.
I agree Pique is a great talent, but I'm not sure if Liverpool away is the right game for him to be thrust into the 1st team...It'd be a bit dodgy I reckon. However, I'd like to see Silvestre at left back as I thought he was decent there, as he is very fast and can run up and down the line a lot quicker than Heinze or O'Shea.
Phatmann
16-09-2005, 22:03
We really could of done with getting Cicinho in the transfer window.
Agreed, he would have been a useful addition especially as G. Neville is out as well as Heinze.
I agree at putting Silvestre left back. I'd stick O'Shea at right back and Brown in the middle. Brown always seems to play better in the centre rather than on the right. Liverpool away is NOT the best place to drop an inexperienced youngster into the deep end.
Have some faith in O'Shea you guys. If he's given a decent run then I believe ww will again see the kind of form he showed in his first season. As for Fortune, why is he still here? Not good enough for Man Utd without a doubt in my mind, wouldn't feel happy with him at left back. As for Richardson, haven't seen any signs of defensive ability from the lad when I have seen him play (granted not that much). I'm sure SAF knows what he's doing... I hope.
yusuf eeli
16-09-2005, 23:18
RB CB CB LB
Brown Ferdinand Silvestre O Shea
Is what I would go for simply because Silvestre and Ferdinand IMO have been solid at the back this season. They working well together and there is no reason to change the central partnership. O Shea could go right back and Richardson could go left but as Mambo said, Richardson is much better as a attacker and i havn't seen him playing very well defensivly.
RB CB CB LB
Brown Ferdinand Silvestre O Shea
Is what I would go for simply because Silvestre and Ferdinand IMO have been solid at the back this season. They working well together and there is no reason to change the central partnership. O Shea could go right back and Richardson could go left but as Mambo said, Richardson is much better as a attacker and i havn't seen him playing very well defensivly.
I think the choice should definately come from those four. Just depends on which way around. Your way would seem the most logical, saving upsetting the central most important partnership between Rio and Silvestre when it seems to be working pretty well. I would rather have O'Shea as one of the full backs, he looks more comfortable there and he is pretty good going forward. SAF just needs to tell him to stop the aimless long balls and he shoudl do just fine.
Phatmann
16-09-2005, 23:30
I think the choice should definately come from those four. Just depends on which way around. Your way would seem the most logical, saving upsetting the central most important partnership between Rio and Silvestre when it seems to be working pretty well. I would rather have O'Shea as one of the full backs, he looks more comfortable there and he is pretty good going forward. SAF just needs to tell him to stop the aimless long balls and he shoudl do just fine.
Definitely, O'shea seems to lose the ball all the time. He should stick to defending, and not play it long, or maybe he should be flying down the wing like we saw in his first season.....but for some reason he hasn't really hit the same form since then, but has had some decent games where he has defended well and even scored a few goals (e.g. v Arsenal :cool: )
Exactly my thoughts. I don't think he has been given a decent enough run to emulate that first season really. He has all the right attributes, just needs to learn how to play effectively. He will get there with time. I loved that goal against Arsenal, sublime. How many defenders, no no, how many strikers would have produced that sort of cool finish with their weaker foot in such a big game?
AgentZero
17-09-2005, 06:27
dunno about brownie and o'shea as fullbacks...both players have been lacking matches....does anyone know how long Gab will be out for?.....
it'll be a close match against l'pool no Gaz, Gab and Keano?...i can only one or two goals involved here.
EDIT: Wes Brown is still suffering his thigh injury, my money is on him not playing, could we a see a debut from either Spector or Pique?....
the back4 options
Silvestre/O'shea - Silvestre/Pique/Spector - Ferdinand - O'shea/Spector
thoughts?
Wesley's still injured, otherwise there wouldn't be a problem.
I've no doubt that Wesley and Rio are the two best centre backs we have and whenever he plays alongside Rio, Wes seems twice as reliable. JOS is an alright squad player at left back but he isn't the same player when he's on the right.
Our back four tomorrow will probably be O'Shea at right back, Silvestre and Rio in the centre and Richardson on the left. And those fullbacks don't exactly inspire much confidence.
Oh and the lad who posted above me, Spector is on loan at Charlton all season.
does anyone know how long Gab will be out for?
He's suffered pretty much the same injury as Keano had 7-8 years ago when he tried to foul Haaland at Leeds. So a long time, probably the whole season. I think SAF has learnt his lesson with Ruud not to bring him back too early. Plus I expect the title to be wrapped up by the last few games again anyway...
Charlie: 9
17-09-2005, 15:04
Yeah Heinze is out for the season, mate. Hope he make good progress and comes back soon. Excellent defender.
Phatmann
17-09-2005, 17:23
Anyone know any information on when Solskjaer will be fit? (if ever :( )
I think hes suffered another recurrance of the injury, can't remember where I got that from
Anyone know any information on when Solskjaer will be fit? (if ever :( )
His recovery hit a major snag a few weeks ago. According to Ole's doctor he has suffered a setback in his rehabilitation from the knee injury.
Basically he's picked up a new tear inside his knee and it's now impossible to say when he's going to be fit again.
We've heard rumours about Ole doing up to seven hours on an exercise bike in an effort to regain fitness, so when you hear him saying he wants to play again you can be assured that he is serious.
Hopefully, Ole will get his wish one day and will play again. No one deserves it as much as him.
vanNistelrooy
17-09-2005, 18:02
Ferguson seems to like Richardson at left back, so don't be suprised to see O'Shea Ferdinand Silvestre Richardson. Shame about Ole, even if he never makes it back he's still a legend, and one of the best "finishers" I've ever actually seen.
I notice that people are bigging up Gerard Pique, but hopefully number 42 will be on the bench tomorrow, Giusepee Rossi. If any of you have been lucky enough to see him play, you'll know how much of a prospect he is.
o0oGedo0o
17-09-2005, 18:09
Anyone knows where to find some good man utd compilations?
7RONALDO7
17-09-2005, 18:15
http://www.tribalfootball.com/september/englishnews8170905.html
^Some good news about Keane.
vanNistelrooy
17-09-2005, 18:20
Good good. Now he can take Gerrard out of the game, as you know he'll actually "turn up", unless Liverpool decide to play in England shirts.
Ronaldo7
17-09-2005, 18:39
I was saying for ages we should be bringing in a defender and a midfielder during the transfer window, and unfortunatly it looks like im gonna be proved very right indeed.
Not sure it would be wise to rush Keane back, seeing as how many players suffer recurrances of hamstring injuries. I'd rather he miss it unless of course he is FULLY fit.
executioner
17-09-2005, 20:18
I notice that people are bigging up Gerard Pique, but hopefully number 42 will be on the bench tomorrow, Giusepee Rossi. If any of you have been lucky enough to see him play, you'll know how much of a prospect he is.
these 2 are very special. their work for the reserve league last year was a big part in them winning the quadruple.
Charlie: 9
17-09-2005, 20:45
Heard that Rossi is a class wee player like, havent seen him play, unfortunatly. Hope he gets on tommorrow.
Phatmann
17-09-2005, 21:47
Cheers for that Akineye.
Rossi is a class player, I have a complilation of him somewhere, which i'll try and find now. (I think Lorenzinho made it)
executioner
18-09-2005, 11:56
i also liked piques performance against byern munich in pre-season a while ago. i just liked the way how an extremely young united side could keep ballack, pizzaro, makaay etc. at bay.
Charlie: 9
18-09-2005, 12:18
United have Keano back today... looking good...
Guillermo
18-09-2005, 14:55
United have Keano back today... looking good...
Not for long...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/4258064.stm
*weeps*
yusuf eeli
18-09-2005, 15:26
Not for long...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/4258064.stm
*weeps*
Two months is a VERY long time when you consider that United can't win!!! I can't actually see the problem with them because they have a great midfield and great attack...
Phatmann
18-09-2005, 15:49
ah great, I thought Keane played well today, but I guess Smith will take his place and we'll have Fletcher playing where smith played today. To be honest I think Fletcher should've started ahead of Smith as Fletcher is a more creative player and with Keane and Smith both playing we looked way too defensive. Also I was disappointed that we seemed to be playing for the draw as our first sub was on 88 minutes, and with Chelsea having won all 6 of their games, we just have to win every game. Van Der Sar is looking more and more like a real bargain, definitely Man of the Match for me today. Came out and swept up Liverpools long balls quite a few times and produced a fantastic save against Gerrards shot.
Not bad a point away to liverpool, maintain our unbeaten record. Was not the best performance i felt richardson done well when called upon he done the job. Ruud should of scored but thats only decent chance i can think United had.
Agree with phatmann van der saar was brilliant.
Onwards and upwards....
Papa Lazarou
18-09-2005, 20:00
i was very impressed with richardson today playing as a kinda wing-back which could be useful if we need more attack minded teamsheets. Van der Sar was amazing again today and he's making the difference between winning and losing matches
Phatmann
18-09-2005, 20:07
Richardson played better than I thought he would, which is good, and I hope he continues to improve and then we'd have decent back up for heinze. Do you reckon Richardson will be first team now as Heinze will be out for the majority of games this season? or will O'Shea go to left back when Gary Neville comes back? or will someone be brought in in the transfer window?
What a disappointment.
The result wasn't so bad, just the total unadventurous, negative tactics we used. Fair enough it's never easy to go to Anfield and win but given the history between the clubs it would have been nice to see a bit of urgency by going for the win. Still, we outsung the scousers for 90 minutes but that was to be expected really.
It was a terrible game.
We didn't look for the win and despite being the home side, Liverpool's tactics involved booting it up to their gangly striker over and over again. There's no chance we'll win the title, especially now with Keane out for two months, it's just a shame that history counts for absoloutley nothing now.
are my Man Yoo friends happy that... well i feel Rooney is wasted playing in this formation of Fergie's... as i feel he is the type of player to build a team around and is at his best dropping deep off a 4-4-2
I think that man u's problem at the moment is the lack of goals, we hold the ball up well we have a great load of possesion but a lack of shots, i see man u trying to play the same way as chelsea do but chelsea are getting the goals needed and man u aint
I think that man u's problem at the moment is the lack of goals, we hold the ball up well we have a great load of possesion but a lack of shots, i see man u trying to play the same way as chelsea do but chelsea are getting the goals needed and man u aint
thats true i think they will do better when Saha is back i have always seen him as a World Class player just too many injuries.
Man. U can score goals. i dont think they are having problems. yeah, they're last two games ended in goalles draws. but against villareal, they were down to 10 men. and against liverpool, they were away. i mean, its not easy to win in Anfield. im sure they will score in the next game.
thats true i think they will do better when Saha is back i have always seen him as a World Class player just too many injuries.All Saha has ever really done is have a good 6 months with Fulham, which made Man Utd buy him. He's a good player but not good enough to get in the Man utd team on a regular basis, not even close.
I agree. United are becoming a team that can play extremely well without creating/finishing any decent chances. Look at today, without a doubt played better than Liverpool yet our only decent chance was Van Nistelrooy's chip (the one he should have blasted near post). I'm getting frsutrated at seeing United dominating and either creating loads and finishing none, or creating little.
You say 'oh but they've played two bitter rivals - tough games' but these are the games Chelsea would grind a result out of. This is why they will finish the season comfortably ahead, again.
Back to today, was willing SAF to bring on a substitute sooner. Smith played alright but it was clear we needed something different. I would've liked Park to scome on for him and link up the play and do the run around job Smith does.
Back to today, was willing SAF to bring on a substitute sooner. Smith played alright but it was clear we needed something different. I would've liked Park to scome on for him and link up the play and do the run around job Smith does.
Even the least tactically astute red knew what was needed yesterday, with two wingers sitting on the bench and an empty left side. It's just a shame Fergie was never going to risk anything because it would mean giving Liverpool the opportunity to attack on the break.
AgentZero
19-09-2005, 10:57
im lovin it!....draws to our two biggest rivals!....frustrating game..lacked spark from rooney and van nistlerooy (note: the goalless draw ended his scorin streak)
But im confident we'll peak at the right time.
on the Saha thing he is class..better than Cisse but injuries plagued the poor lad and inconsistency is not making it better, United need to holdon for at least till the end of this season or he'll do a scorelan for his new club.
Even the least tactically astute red knew what was needed yesterday, with two wingers sitting on the bench and an empty left side. It's just a shame Fergie was never going to risk anything because it would mean giving Liverpool the opportunity to attack on the break.
I thought Richardson was doing alright on the left. Just thought that Park would give us something extra in the middle without really 'risking' anything.
I thought Richardson was doing alright on the left. Just thought that Park would give us something extra in the middle without really 'risking' anything.
Richardson played fine. He hardly had anything to do but he made no mistakes.
Our weakness was that we never got forward down the left. We had two wingers on the bench but the game was so narrow it just fizzled out after the first half.
OSLO, Sept 19 (Reuters) - Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson visited Norway on Monday to press his claim for the transfer of Nigerian teenager John Obi Mikel from Norwegian soccer club Lyn Oslo, Norwegian media said.
'We have an agreement with Lyn, have followed John Obi Mikel for three years and still want him to come to Manchester United,' daily Verdens Gang quoted Ferguson as saying on their website.
Midfielder Mikel, 18, signed for Manchester United on April 29 but the deal was thrown into doubt when Mikel said that he had been put under pressure to sign a deal newspapers said was worth about 4.0 million pounds ($7.21 million).
Mikel then travelled to London and said that he really wanted to play for English champions Chelsea. Mikel turned up in Norway earlier this month and resumed playing for Lyn after several months' absence.
A spokesman for Lyn confirmed that Ferguson met Lyn manager Morgan Andersen in Oslo but said he did not know details of the talks.
Verdens Gang said that Lyn and Manchester United, who negotiated Mikel's transfer, were cooperating on the case in preparing arguments for FIFA.
Last month, FIFA's Dispute Resolution Chamber ruled that Mikel had to return to Lyn after leaving in May without permission.
Under the April deal, Mikel was due to leave Lyn for Old Trafford in January 2006 after the end of the Norwegian season.
The latest on this situation when will it be resolved.
Ronaldo7
19-09-2005, 18:53
I dont even care about this guy anymore, if he is such a good player as everyone seems to say then why does he have to be such a little cryababy about it and just do his fucking job!
Guillermo
19-09-2005, 19:02
I'd prefer it if he just stayed away from England. Obviously doesn't want to play for United, so won't even try for us to get transferred. And I don't want him at Chelsea because he'll carry on with the bullshit of "It's been my lifelong dream" when he seems like a money grabber. Hope he keeps away so I never have the unfortunate circumstance of seeing him actually playing football (if that ever happens again).
Ronaldo7
19-09-2005, 19:06
Same happened with Essien remember? Said at the beginning of the summer he wanted to move to Man U and as soon as Chelsea came in he said it was his dream to play for them. Fucking sellout.
Guillermo
19-09-2005, 19:07
Yeah I have the same feelings about him, he just whined saying he wouldnt play for Lyon and demanded a move to Chelsea. Balls to them.
Phatmann
19-09-2005, 19:12
It would be a desperately bad move for him to go to Chelsea as they aren't really in need of any more central midfielders, whereas we are looking a bit thin in that department at the moment. If he genuinely doesn't want to play for us, then I agree, I don't want him here, but maybe it's his agent who's stirring it up, as I'm sure he'd get a lot more money if Mikel went to Chelsea...
Ronaldo7
19-09-2005, 19:14
I do think one advantage we have now is that all these kids who grew up watchin Man U in the 90s will still have a fondness for them and want to move there in 4 or 5 years time, similar to Liverpool getting Alonso and Morientes and other good players without actually doing anything. People just remember how great they were and want it back again for themselves.
Phatmann
19-09-2005, 19:16
Helguera hints at Real exit
http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=308799&CPID=23&CLID=1&lid=&title=Helguera+hints+at+Real+e xit&channel=premiership
yusuf eeli
19-09-2005, 19:18
Obi is a great talent and i'm sure he'd learn to love Man Utd. I agree with Phatmann by saying it's the agent who is turning him towards Chelsea. The kids only 17?16? and he is still young to know so he rely's on people older then him like his agent. Unlucky about Keane and Henize but United have enough quality and depth in the side to win the league.
And it seems Smith is up for the challenge to fill Keane's postion.
Ronaldo7
19-09-2005, 19:18
Hmmmm not too sure about Helguera to be honest, everytime ive seen him play he never seems to DO anything. plus isnt he like 30ish?
Phatmann
19-09-2005, 19:20
But still, I'm not entirely convinced by Silvestre. He's played well so far this season, but I feel there are better out there, plus we don't have a lot of back up at centre back, maybe pique and brown and thats about it for natural centre backs.
Guillermo
19-09-2005, 19:21
I'd like Helguera as a squad player. But not as a first teamer, we do definitely need a central defender though, Silvestre looks suspect at times and Helguera can be a defensive midfielder too, always handy.
yusuf eeli
19-09-2005, 19:21
Hmmmm not too sure about Helguera to be honest, everytime ive seen him play he never seems to DO anything. plus isnt he like 30ish?
I'd agree with you there mate. All ex Real Madrid defenders suck. I don't think he would do any good in United because simply i don't think he can defend.
Ronaldo7
19-09-2005, 19:23
We should try and get Kompany before Chelsea do, or Heitinga. Defensive Mid is a position that requires some thinking really, If only we had got to Van Bommel before Barca did.....
Guillermo
19-09-2005, 19:25
Weren't Liverpool the team who were most interested in Kompany? But yes I agree he'd be a useful addition (not Heitinga though, don't reckon a whole load to him).
yusuf eeli
19-09-2005, 19:28
Kompany would be a good addition to the United squad but competing against Chelsea the chances of us getting him are shite.
Ronaldo7
19-09-2005, 19:28
I heard somewhere Kompany was being strongly linked with Chelsea, and to be honest that is the one place they could do with improving, both Gallas and Carvallho(sp?) cant cut it on the big stage. Xavi is another one who has just popped into my head, anyone think he would be good?
Phatmann
19-09-2005, 19:30
I heard somewhere Kompany was being strongly linked with Chelsea, and to be honest that is the one place they could do with improving, both Gallas and Carvallho(sp?) cant cut it on the big stage. Xavi is another one who has just popped into my head, anyone think he would be good?
Xavi would be brilliant for us, but i doubt Barca would sell him, well at least not unless we paid a very high price.
7RONALDO7
19-09-2005, 19:30
How old is Xavi? Is he 25+
I like Guily but he is old.
yusuf eeli
19-09-2005, 19:32
Fergie didn't spend much this summer and Glazer said 100 mill for 5 years. I think getting a quality Defensive mid, someone who will ALWAYS turn up to the game, someone as consistance as Makale would be a very good addition to the Untied squad.
Phatmann
19-09-2005, 19:32
Giuly = 29
Xavi = 25
Phatmann
19-09-2005, 19:33
The only consistent defensive midfielder i can think of at the moment would be Gattuso, but I couldn't see him coming here from Milan.
yusuf eeli
19-09-2005, 19:34
Xavi = 25
So he got another 7+ years in him...
Would Barca sell him? I don't watch the Spanish league so i don't know how good he is...
yusuf eeli
19-09-2005, 19:36
The only consistent defensive midfielder i can think of at the moment would be Gattuso, but I couldn't see him coming here from Milan.
Wasn't he about to come to United last season? What happend?
Phatmann
19-09-2005, 19:36
So he got another 7+ years in him...
Would Barca sell him? I don't watch the Spanish league so i don't know how good he is...
It would be very unlikely that they'd sell him but with Van Bommel, it's not impossible..... However, they wouldn't let him go very cheaply.
Ronaldo7
19-09-2005, 19:37
I just dont think Alan smith can hack it in Midfield, i would love to see Ballack come,as seems likley, but he isnt a proper defensive mid is he?
Phatmann
19-09-2005, 19:38
Wasn't he about to come to United last season? What happend?
There was speculation, but that's all it was. He wasn't ever close to coming really.
I heard somewhere Kompany was being strongly linked with Chelsea, and to be honest that is the one place they could do with improving, both Gallas and Carvallho(sp?) cant cut it on the big stage. Xavi is another one who has just popped into my head, anyone think he would be good?Carvalho was the best defender at Euro 2004 by my reckoning, and absolutely no chance of getting Xavi
Ronaldo7
19-09-2005, 19:40
The same way Newcastle had no chance of getting Owen?
The same way Newcastle had no chance of getting Owen?the same way Xavi is one of Barce's most important players, a Catalunian born and bread... in the way Owen was not one of Madrid's most important players.. only bought as an image?
yusuf eeli
19-09-2005, 19:43
The same way Newcastle had no chance of getting Owen?
I don't even think United are looking for a Defensive midfilder as they alreaddy have Keane and Smith and is Miller not a defensive midfielder also?
And Owen wanted to come to the premiership, i think Xavi is quite happy at Barca. I think we'll find out nearer the time of the January window what players Fergie wants.
Ronaldo7
19-09-2005, 19:45
I just think you can never say never. At the start of the transfer window did anyone think Vieri would end up at AC Milan?
I think Gattuso is more likely, he's publicly stated he'd like to play for Man Utd one day. I think Milan are more likely to sell than Barca selling Xavi.
Ronaldo7
19-09-2005, 19:54
Milan are greedy in terms of midfielders, they have Gattuso, Pirlo, Ambrosini, Dhorasso, Seedorf etc etc repeat till fade.
gerard1922
19-09-2005, 19:55
Id Like To See Fletcher Try Take Over In Defensive Mid
Phatmann
19-09-2005, 19:55
the same way Xavi is one of Barce's most important players, a Catalunian born and bread... in the way Owen was not one of Madrid's most important players.. only bought as an image?
To be fair, owen was an important player for Madrid, but I agree that you can't really compare the possiblity of Xavi coming to Man Utd with Owen going to Newcastle, because Owen wasnt always first team (even though he was scoring for fun for them) and Xavi basically is the heart of barcelona, and it's like Roy Keane going off to Juve or something- not gonna happen.
yusuf eeli
19-09-2005, 19:57
Id Like To See Fletcher Try Take Over In Defensive Mid
Fletcher play's better in a central midfield role rather then defensive as he has great passing and is getting better at playmaking. He has good tackling but i think SAF would rather play him more central and forward then defensive.
Phatmann
19-09-2005, 19:58
David Jones could be a decent defensive midfielder int he future. In pre-season he seemed to play exactly the same way as Keane, keeping possession all the time, never losing the ball. I doubt anyone would agree though :rolleyes:
gerard1922
19-09-2005, 20:01
Wot The Hell Has Happened To Liam Miller? After Ditching Celtic And Being Tipped To Be The Next Keano That Just Hasnt Happened ,plus Hes Had Time To Settle And Still Done Sfa
Ronaldo7
19-09-2005, 20:01
Yes but some of the biggest transfers in history have been "players who would never leave", "our most important player" or between rival clubs, eg Vieri to AC, Figo to Real, Ronaldo to Inter, Viera stating he wanted to move to Man U before going to Juve, Beckham to Madrid and so on. Owen to Madrid in the first place was a shock being a scouser through and supposedly through.
gerard1922
19-09-2005, 20:13
But The Reason Why Owen Went To Real Was Because He Was Wanting A Contract That The Board Were Not Prepared To Give Him So Had To Sell Him Cos He Only Had 12 Months To Run On His Contract
Guillermo
19-09-2005, 20:25
All these defensive mids we have suggested we don't really have a chance of getting. Fergie will probably spend little on a no-namer who is a bright prospect for the future.
I honestly believe that Smith can do the job well enough, I mean his tackling is extremely strong. And he isn't exactly easy to run by, he would give any player he is against a run for their money.
And seriously Miller, he doesn't deserve to be on the pitch. I think Rio Ferdinand is more of a liability than any of our other first team defenders. I sometimes get concerned when hes on the ball, he is far too calm with the ball. Usually by the time he is going to distrubute the ball, he realises theres a challenge coming in. In the air against Liverpool he was outstanding but in general on the floor I sometimes get worried.
All these defensive mids we have suggested we don't really have a chance of getting. Fergie will probably spend little on a no-namer who is a bright prospect for the future.
Like Djemba Djemba or Kleberson. This is what worries me.
o0oGedo0o
19-09-2005, 22:38
Like Djemba Djemba or Kleberson. This is what worries me.
He signed Ronaldo and Rooney so he's not that bad
7RONALDO7
19-09-2005, 22:41
And Liam Miller
Phatmann
20-09-2005, 09:25
He signed Ronaldo and Rooney so he's not that bad
but he didn't spend little on them, and Rooney wasn't a no-namer.
jthk2004
20-09-2005, 09:29
All these defensive mids we have suggested we don't really have a chance of getting. Fergie will probably spend little on a no-namer who is a bright prospect for the future.
are u taking about alan smith? spot-on...
He signed Ronaldo and Rooney so he's not that bad
Hardly the same thing. They were hardly unknowns and definitely not cheap (£40+ between them). Its easier to spot a good attacking player that will be effective than a player like Keane IMO
Phatmann
20-09-2005, 17:59
Another Mikel headline :rolleyes:
http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=309306&cpid=8&CLID=1&lid=&title=Fergie+accused+of+Mikel+ ambush&channel=skysports_home_page
Phatmann
20-09-2005, 21:09
Rooney handed two-game ban
http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=309343&CPID=5&CLID=1&lid=&title=Rooney+handed+two-game+ban&channel=skysports_home_page
jthk2004
20-09-2005, 22:54
Rooney handed two-game ban
http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=309343&CPID=5&CLID=1&lid=&title=Rooney+handed+two-game+ban&channel=skysports_home_page
i don't think rooney will be needed for those 2 home games anyway. gotta ban him longer...
Phatmann
21-09-2005, 10:01
United plan Keane talks
Manchester United are rumoured to be ready to offer Roy Keane a coaching role at Old Trafford.
Newspaper reports claim the Republic of Ireland international, out of action with a broken foot, is due to have talks with United officials in December over his future role.
A full-time coaching position is on the agenda as Keane is already showing signs that he could be a top manager having worked under two of the game's greats in Brian Clough and Sir Alex Ferguson.
There is no suggestion that Keane is ready to call time on his playing career yet, despite his constant battle with injuries, but United are thought to want to safeguard against their captain leaving without being tied to a commitment to cutting his coaching teeth at Old Trafford.
The 34-year-old already enjoys huge influence at the club and talk of a summer bust-up with Ferguson was brushed aside by the Scot who admitted having numerous disagreements with his abrasive skipper.
Paul Scholes, meawhile, has joined the list of players bemoaning Keane's latest injury setback.
The former England international, struggling to recapture his best form himself, appreciates losing his midfield partner is a huge blow to United.
"He's a massive player and we'll miss him," said Scholes. "He puts so many tackles and headers in and wins everything."
:mellow: Anyone reckon Keane would make a good coach?
He can motivate em anyway... its a pity he's on his way out though... the guy was a force of nature on the pitch...
Ronaldo7
21-09-2005, 13:04
I dunno most good players dont tend to be good managers, just look at Keegan. exception - Rikjaard
I dunno most good players dont tend to be good managers, just look at Keeganthat's total rubbish i'm sorry.... if it wasn't for Keegan Newcastle would probably be League 2 right now and God knows what would be going on... although for England he didn't do too well... what Keegan done for Newcastle was remarkable
Ronaldo7
21-09-2005, 13:32
Yeah, I was thinking England and Man City more than Newcastle. Sorry :)
Cant argue with Guillet(sp) though!
7RONALDO7
21-09-2005, 14:26
that's total rubbish i'm sorry.... if it wasn't for Keegan Newcastle would probably be League 2 right now and God knows what would be going on... although for England he didn't do too well... what Keegan done for Newcastle was remarkable
"I'd love it......I'd love it if we beat them"
when does tiger woods 2006 come out! ive read on ea sports website that its out on 23rd sep! but play.com, hmv, asda say its out on 7th october??
lol
o0oGedo0o
21-09-2005, 16:24
when does tiger woods 2006 come out! ive read on ea sports website that its out on 23rd sep! but play.com, hmv, asda say its out on 7th october??
lol
What does that has to do with anything?
Guillermo
21-09-2005, 16:45
when does tiger woods 2006 come out! ive read on ea sports website that its out on 23rd sep! but play.com, hmv, asda say its out on 7th october??
lol
Hmm, true, but I was thinking of Alan Smith in that holding role. Good point though, hope to see more of your United views in the future.
Alan Smith
21-09-2005, 16:52
when does tiger woods 2006 come out! ive read on ea sports website that its out on 23rd sep! but play.com, hmv, asda say its out on 7th october??
lol
That is one off the most randomist things i have ever heard.
I just want to know if we have signed that Jon Obi Mikel Fellar.
Phatmann
21-09-2005, 17:55
when does tiger woods 2006 come out! ive read on ea sports website that its out on 23rd sep! but play.com, hmv, asda say its out on 7th october??
lol
It's out 7th October here, I think 23rd September is the US release date.
Fergie's flew out to Norway to persuade him to join but apparently John Obi has snubbed him by refusing to talk. Just how good is this lad?
Wouldn't want him anyway now. Still we could play him out at Antwerp til he was thirty-six.
executioner
21-09-2005, 19:38
I just want to know if we have signed that Jon Obi Mikel Fellar.
no matter what happens, he will only arrive in january.
Ronaldo7
22-09-2005, 10:50
One of three things is going to happen with this lad, either he will eventually come and will be amazing and love life at Old Trafford, he will become the next Djemba Djemba and Kleberson or he will just fade into obscurity and we will never hear from him again.
AgentZero
22-09-2005, 10:56
Dhoorasoo is in PSG is he not?.....Liam Miller man he was suppose to replace beckham not keano as they both play better on the right....and he was the F***in cause why JP McManus sold his share to Glazer....
Ronaldo7
22-09-2005, 11:50
Im hoping against hope really, but i would pretty much giva anything to see Xavi after Keano goes. Realisticaly though, the post about it being some young nobody wwho he turns into a world class player is probably the most likley.
Ronaldo_is_fat
22-09-2005, 11:59
I don't get it about Miller he didn't make any mistake and why wasn't he given any chances?
One of three things is going to happen with this lad, either he will eventually come and will be amazing and love life at Old Trafford, he will become the next Djemba Djemba and Kleberson or he will just fade into obscurity and we will never hear from him again.
Doubt that, he has more quality than them 2 put together multiplied by three. Of course, he could still fade into obscurity, but at least he has more chances to make it.
I don't even think United are looking for a Defensive midfilder as they alreaddy have Keane and Smith and is Miller not a defensive midfielder also?
Miller is shite, Smith is not a defensive midfielder and Keane is no longer able to have the same influence.
We actually need two worldclass midfielders.
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