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Dragonfly
15-09-2011, 20:35
You're a renegade, how can you be apart of our community? :shifty:
I think he's more Rimmer than Renegade.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm6fqzNGps1qi71loo1_400 .jpg
Can we get a new poll in here? Something like "Should Carrick be in Uniteds starting XI to play Chelsea this weekend?"
My back is against the wall and the second I speak out of term it's over for me. It's like one man having his arms tied behind his back with a muzzle over his mouth, while the other men have free reign to do and say what they like.
:lmao: Its not like that and you know it
Phatmann
15-09-2011, 20:57
Can we get a new poll in here? Something like "Should Carrick be in Uniteds starting XI to play Chelsea this weekend?"
Sorted.
I voted yes. Although, it is more of a yes please.
Moyesavelian
15-09-2011, 21:35
I think it's nearly certain that he will start.Who else is going to partner Anderson?
It would be really ballsy of fergie if neither Carrick or Fletcher started.
Ultimate777
15-09-2011, 21:37
I voted yes. Although, it is more of a yes please.
Yes please in that you want a repeat of last seasons beating with him in the team?
In truth its a pointless poll. Who else is going to start in his place? Fletcher and watch him run around in circles chasing shadows? Those who selected no and support united obviously haven't thought through anything but just want to bash a player for the sake of it. Similar to those socalled fans who went on to Gibsons twitter to abuse him because he's not up to United standards.
It;s a good thing they are have nothing to do with United in terms of being any influence in selection otherwise we'd have 3-1-6 tactics employed and end up getting battered.
Cannon ball
15-09-2011, 22:35
Aye, he may be a prize wind up merchant and a bit of a wolf crier but I still think the site is all the better for him. You can't deny he certainly gets things 'going'
I agree, thats why he must be allowed to use off-topic.
chelsea11
15-09-2011, 22:44
Yes please in that you want a repeat of last seasons beating with him in the team?
That was hardly down to Carrick now in fairness!
I wouldn't mind him in there to be honest, he doesn't exactly offer anything in an attacking sense, and can be easily played around if the Chelsea midfield play the way they can.
Ultimate777
15-09-2011, 22:59
He didn't score now yes. However he shielded the back four good enough not to allow your midfield and attack to do what the hell they wanted.
AgentZero
16-09-2011, 00:12
voted no as I'd think SAF will use Giggsy with Ando in the middle.
I wanted Giggs in the middle but as he played the full 90 minutes I'm not sure he will start.
Carrick will probably start :(
Wonder what the odds are on Carrick giving the ball away over 10 times?
I'm not for or against Carrick but the last few seasons Carrick has been gash.
Keyser Soze
16-09-2011, 01:28
Has no-one mentioned slotting Jones in there, giving Anderson the license to go forward? Would be pretty beastly.
He had a decent first season for us but that was about it. Spurs have a knack of selling their best players for a fortune and then they quickly deteriorate.
De Gea
Smalling Ferdinand Evans Evra
Nani Carrick Anderson Young
Rooney Hernandez
Has no-one mentioned slotting Jones in there, giving Anderson the license to go forward? Would be pretty beastly.
I think SAF would prefer to see how Jones and Anderson fair together against a lesser team before a big game like this. If he'd wanted to see Jones at CM over Carrick he would have likely subbed Smalling in for Cleverely and switched positions against Bolton.
It would be great to see, but I'm not sure we'll see it just yet. Hopefully SAF springs a surprise!
I voted no. If I need to explain why by now, then I give up.
I voted no. If I need to explain why by now, then I give up.
I would like you to explain purely for torturous reasons mwahahahaha ....
I would like you to explain purely for torturous reasons mwahahahaha ....
I guessed you'd be the first. With that in mind...
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I guessed you'd be the first. With that in mind...
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That's a bad habit fick (:lmao:)
That's a bid habit fick (:lmao:)
A 'bid' habit?
Get on topic and learn to spell, or gtfo :folarm:
A 'bid' habit?
Get on topic and learn to spell, or gtfo :folarm:
Your powers are weak old man! :lol:
... Well ... will Hernandez start this week against Chelsea? I have Dzeko in my Telegraph team and he's being rotated but I suspect The Little Pea less so.
Yes, I'm pretty positive he will. I think the only questions are who'll partner Anderson in the middle and Ferdinand at centre back.
Yes, I'm pretty positive he will. I think the only questions are who'll partner Anderson in the middle and Ferdinand at centre back.
Personally I'd be happy with Jones at the back. Feltcher in MF, he has caused problems for Chelsea in the past (including scoring...)
IronCity
16-09-2011, 22:30
Your powers are weak old man! :lol:
... Well ... will Hernandez start this week against Chelsea? I have Dzeko in my Telegraph team and he's being rotated but I suspect The Little Pea less so.
3 goals in 5 games againt Chelsea, and two scores last week; the boy is just getting warmed up.- I think Sir Alex will be wanting him in there
De Gea
Smalling Jones Evans Evra
Nani Fletcher Anderson Young
Rooney Chicharito
Fletcher :/
No Rio :/
Hmmmmmmm
It still amazes me how some of Fergie's decisions can be questioned.
Its hard to see Ferdinand getting back in the team Jones and Smalling look very very accomplished players already. In the short term as well its hard to see Rafael getting a look in either.
Far too open; we're lucky Torres is gash.
I had money on Smalling as first scorer :)
Cesc Fabregas
18-09-2011, 16:58
Rooney needs to score a couple more to give my ff team a much needed boost.
Foxhound
18-09-2011, 18:34
Nice to see De Gea had a solid game. I thought it was a certain goal in the first half.
Ramires was slightly on the stretch; Sturridge should have called for it, and if he did, it shoulda been left.
IronCity
20-09-2011, 15:01
Word on the street has Pogba making his debut this weekend
unrelated
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Not this weekend, tonight :)
Leeds in the Carling Cup, should be a few youngsters on show.
IronCity
20-09-2011, 15:24
ahh, thanks for the clarificiaton Top Gun. Makes more sense now. Although I was thinking that Sir Alex might be disapointed with the Carrick or Fletcher selection for the weekend. maybe just the opposite - letting them get the rest.
Pogba is a beast. Looking forward to it!
Moyesavelian
20-09-2011, 15:52
ahh, thanks for the clarificiaton Top Gun. Makes more sense now. Although I thinking that Sir Alex might be disapointed with the Carrick or Fletcher selection for the weekend. maybe just the opposite - letting them get the rest.
I thinks it's more to do with trying to get an extremely talented footballer first team action, rather than resting Fletch and Carrick.
Phatmann
20-09-2011, 19:04
Anyone reckon Morrison will get a run out tonight? I can't think of too many other youngsters - other than Pogba - who might get a look in, maybe Reece Brown.
I came across something interesting today: I believe Berbatov's contract is up at the end of the season. At the moment it doesn't look like he is in Fergie's plans but would we want to let a player we bought for £30m go for free? Perhaps we'll sell him in January if Welbeck gets back into the groove after his injury?
Just seen the team, Carrick and Valencia in defence. Macheda in midfield. Loads of youngsters. Should be fun.
Phatmann
20-09-2011, 19:15
Just seen the team, Carrick and Valencia in defence. Macheda in midfield. Loads of youngsters. Should be fun.
Carrick in defence?!? Have we not got enough young centre backs? Smalling? Jones? Evans? even Reece Brown? Seems a strange choice but I look forward to Valencia playing at full back as he has looked quite decent there. Macheda best show better retention of the ball and short passing than he does when he plays as a striker.
Wow. Was SAF drunk when he chose this team?
Macheda and Diouf in midfield. 1-0 up. http://www.thereses.net/emoticons/Drunk_emoticon_-_updated_again.gif
chelsea11
20-09-2011, 20:17
Who's this Michael Owen kid?
BarnDoor
20-09-2011, 20:18
I see Owen's found his level.
Jonno394
20-09-2011, 20:19
Good strike though. He'd rip defences apart in the championship/League 1.
Game over? http://www.thereses.net/emoticons/Drunk_emoticon_-_updated_again.gif
Not to jinx Owen, but the last tine Carrick started a game at CB didn't Owen score a hat trick? ;)
AgentZero
21-09-2011, 13:47
ended with Berba and carrick in defense.
Moyesavelian
24-09-2011, 09:48
What you guys make out of all this noise coming from Hargreaves and how the evil Man Utd doctors made him feel like he was made out of glass and treated him like a guinea pig?Maybe he did get the wrong treatment ,who knows really , but the way he's speaking is more or less trying to put all the blame on our docs.
I don't wish injury on players , but in this circumstance i will be delighted if/when he breaks down again.
Ultimate777
24-09-2011, 10:06
What you guys make out of all this noise coming from Hargreaves and how the evil Man Utd doctors made him feel like he was made out of glass and treated him like a guinea pig?Maybe he did get the wrong treatment ,who knows really , but the way he's speaking is more or less trying to put all the blame on our docs.
I don't wish injury on players , but in this circumstance i will be delighted if/when he breaks down again.
Storm in a tea cup really.
Sure I think the injections could have done him more harm then good. But Hargreaves is old enough and should know better than to come out publicly slating the United medical team. That should remain between him and the club.
I can understand fans feeling angry towards his comments, but i don't think they were malicious just naive and unnecessary
It's rather small time to be wishing injury on a player just because he says what he believes may have been the wrong treatment. For all you know he may have a point.
Either way I don't begrudge him or the medical team, as sure both done what they thought was best at the time.
I hear rumours of no Rooney for the Stoke game? :-/
Just been confirmed.
EDIT: Hernandez off injured :facepalm:
Meyyappan
24-09-2011, 19:30
Neville,Scholes and Van der sar have retired while united old boys brown and o'shea have left.
The man i most feared would be the difference today was Ryan Giggs but he lost his footing today did he not?!?
Hopefully the departures affect you more than the new arrivals:
De gea,Jones,Smalling and young.
Neville,Scholes and Van der sar have retired while united old boys brown and o'shea have left.
The man i most feared would be the difference today was Ryan Giggs but he lost his footing today did he not?!?
Hopefully the departures affect you more than the new arrivals:
De gea,Jones,Smalling and young.
I'd still put my money on us finishing above you lot; all we have to do is finish 5th or higher.
IronCity
25-09-2011, 02:52
I don't think Berbatov made any great stride for his cause today.
Meyyappan
25-09-2011, 04:16
You are sapping the guy's confidence after he has the best season in his career and ends up being premiership's top scorer you do not even bring him to the Champions League Final and you leave out the guy for nothing in the opening games of the season.
muscularmatt
25-09-2011, 04:18
Cuntfest!!!
Ultimate777
25-09-2011, 08:50
You are sapping the guy's confidence after he has the best season in his career and ends up being premiership's top scorer you do not even bring him to the Champions League Final and you leave out the guy for nothing in the opening games of the season.
That was his own fault. He didn't deliver in the big games last season and the last straw was him missing vital chances in the semi final of the FA Cup against City which cost us the game. That's when SAF lost faith him as a first choice striker.
He's done nothing to show he deserves a place in the team this season except deliver halfhearted performances, slow down our play and miss simple tap ins.
He's a waster who deserves to play for your lot.
AgentZero
25-09-2011, 09:02
oh berba he does really play when he feels like it.
Meyyappan
25-09-2011, 09:29
That was his own fault. He didn't deliver in the big games last season and the last straw was him missing vital chances in the semi final of the FA Cup against City which cost us the game. That's when SAF lost faith him as a first choice striker.
He's done nothing to show he deserves a place in the team this season except deliver halfhearted performances, slow down our play and miss simple tap ins.
He's a waster who deserves to play for your lot.
I would love to take him on a free the coming summer,Arsene would make a nice one touch player out of him.
Rafael starts! :D
£5 says he'll come off injured! :P
Rafael starts! :D
£5 says he'll come off injured! :P
Rafael's back! :dribble:
Team Rocket are back in business now then too!
:carlton:
Sky Sports website fucked up, it's Fabio, not Rafa.
Bammers05
27-09-2011, 19:58
Rafael's back! :dribble:
Team Rocket are back in business now then too!
:carlton:
6th place is mine :realmad:
Welbeck for the hat-trick :hmm:
We all foreseen a Welbeck hatrick.
:rigbys:
Ultimate777
27-09-2011, 20:11
Welbeck for the hat-trick :hmm:
Doesn't matter if he scores 4 tonight because apparently he''ll be gone in 12 -18 months according to this genius
Wellbeck won't be at Man Utd in 12-18 months
Welbeck will be sold because he isn't good enough to make the grade at a club like Man Utd.
I check the score after 5 minutes away and I see 2-2?
WUT DA HALE?
:booker:
Doesn't matter if he scores 4 tonight because apparently he''ll be gone in 12 -18 months according to this genius
I'm happy to be proven wrong, but two tap ins (one was a fluke) and disappearing for the next 70 minutes (again) isn't going to give me a boner like it does you.
^ But he has been showing if he gets the service, he will score.
You're not giving him enough credit. He's only 20 years old and he isn't Messi, so he's not going to be dominating games.
^ But he has been showing if he gets the service, he will score.
You're not giving him enough credit. He's only 20 years old and he isn't Messi, so he's not going to be dominating games.
I've given him credit, but I can't see him being at United for the long term? Is that such a bad thing?
Ultimate777
27-09-2011, 22:15
I'm happy to be proven wrong, but two tap ins (one was a fluke) and disappearing for the next 70 minutes (again) isn't going to give me a boner like it does you.
Yeah but surely when a certain 30 year old Bulgarian comes on for the last 10 minutes with two golden opportunities but fucks them up, you get one.
Well worth 30million hey? Still believe he's 3rd choice behind roo and hernadez? If you do, I got news for you son, he's now 4th choice boarding on being 5th if owen or Diouf get their shit together.
I've given him credit, but I can't see him being at United for the long term? Is that such a bad thing?
Why? Or is it that you don't want to see him at United for the long term? Or you're just too stubborn to admit you're already wrong and therefore can't bring yourself to praise him? Which one is it? Or are you going to go into another one of your mind numbing thesis's on how wellbeck only has pace to his game like bellion and Manucho?
Ultimate777
27-09-2011, 22:28
^ did not read
Of course not. Who wants to read posts where they're emphatically proven wrong and intellectually destroyed?!
Of course not. Who wants to read posts where they're emphatically proven wrong and intellectually destroyed?!
Who wants to read recycled bollocks? Your Nan, perhaps?
You know it's stupid saying such a thing Ziss.
777, don't bite bro.
Moyesavelian
27-09-2011, 23:01
Credit where credit is due, they carved us open for alot of the match , and if they were more clinical it could of been a blood bath.
It was a smash and grab in the end what really is embarrassing to say.
But a good friend of mine traveled to Munich tonight , the bitterest blue you could ever meet so i've been trolling him tonight, what has made me less depressed about tonight's result:).
Ultimate777
27-09-2011, 23:03
I'm hardly going to fall for such a pathetic attempt to try and annoy me. You can do better than that Ziss, surely
My points are hardly recycled, I'm making points on tonights game which just happened. In which wellbeck performed well as lone striker and your man once again proved what a waste of fucking space he literally is, thinking he was going to score from such a ridiculous angle, instead of passing it across goal
I'm hardly going to fall for such a pathetic attempt to try and annoy me. You can do better than that Ziss, surely
My points are hardly recycled, I'm making points on tonights game which just happened. In which wellbeck performed well as lone striker and your man once again proved what a waste of fucking space he literally is, thinking he was going to score from such a ridiculous angle, instead of passing it across goal
Again, an opinion. Stop trying to force them down everyone's throats.
Ultimate777
27-09-2011, 23:25
Again, an opinion. Stop trying to force them down everyone's throats.
Obviously it's my view on the game with a few facts stated. For example the facts are welbeck scored two goals as a lone striker. Berbatov come on for the last9-10 mins of the game and missed chances as usual. It's my opinion that wellbeck had a good game considering he was up top without a SS. And it's my opinion that if berbatov wasn't a selfish bastard we could have won the game.
You've given your view and I asked you to elaborate on a few points that didn't make any sense as usual, then you went off on one talking about things which have nothing to do with the discussion.
If you can't handle the discussion on united then I suggest you refrain from posting in the thread.
Moyesavelian
27-09-2011, 23:34
Ziss i can't understand why you can have such hate for a Mancunian lad who's been consistently bagging goals for us this season.You have become so obsessed with 777 that i know your desperate for him to fail just so you can get one-man-up-man-ship on 777.
Your back handed compliments and good wishes to Welbeck are so see through.I bet you cringe every time Welbeck scores don't you?
Obviously it's my view on the game with a few facts stated. For example the facts are welbeck scored two goals as a lone striker. Berbatov come on for the last9-10 mins of the game and missed chances as usual. It's my opinion that wellbeck had a good game considering he was up top without a SS. And it's my opinion that if berbatov wasn't a selfish bastard we could have won the game.
You've given your view and I asked you to elaborate on a few points that didn't make any sense as usual, then you went off on one talking about things which have nothing to do with the discussion.
If you can't handle the discussion on united then I suggest you refrain from posting in the thread.
You don't ask questions, you talk down to people.
Ultimate777
27-09-2011, 23:44
Ziss i can't understand why you can have such hate for a Mancunian lad who's been consistently bagging goals for us this season.You have become so obsessed with 777 that i know your desperate for him to fail just so you can get one-man-up-man-ship on 777.
Your back handed compliments and good wishes to Welbeck are so see through.I bet you cringe every time Welbeck scores don't you?
Of course. He grits his teeth, clenches his fists and turns the channel over or walks out of the stadium when wellbeck scores
Phatmann
27-09-2011, 23:47
It was disappointing to give up a 2-0 lead but we were very lucky to come away with anything in the game today. Basel were impressive in attack but our defenders were all over the place. I don't know why but Ferdinand, Jones, Evra and Fabio all looked like they had underestimated our opponents, looking like they were going to be raped by Streller and Frei every time.
On a more positive note, I thought Carrick had a solid game and Welbeck did the best he could as a lone striker.
Ultimate777
27-09-2011, 23:53
It was disappointing to give up a 2-0 lead but we were very lucky to come away with anything in the game today. Basel were impressive in attack but our defenders were all over the place. I don't know why but Ferdinand, Jones, Evra and Fabio all looked like they had underestimated our opponents, looking like they were going to be raped by Streller and Frei every time.
On a more positive, I thought Carrick had a solid game and Welbeck did the best he could as a lone striker.
An accurate assessment. I think we were cagey at the back because of the chopping and changing we've had to do due to injuries. We've played so many different back lines so far this season, we've not had the chance to play a consistent and settled back four
As for carrick I didn't notice him too much, but looked as though him and anderson lost controll in the middle of the park as we didn't look as organised or retain possession as much as we usually do.
Credit indeed to Basel they pressed well and gave it a good go and could have easily won the game.
A draw obviously isn't great but considering how we played I'm grateful we leveled. As we can beat benefica at home and the other team, so it's far from panic mode we were are looking at the prospect of not qualifying.
City are the ones that need to worry at this stage, as they've lost in a very tough group and getting points from the rest of their games will still be very difficult for them.
As for the tevez situation, maybe we could have a poll asking if the United fans would have him back if we sold berbatov in january and tevez became a free agent?
Ziss i can't understand why you can have such hate for a Mancunian lad who's been consistently bagging goals for us this season.You have become so obsessed with 777 that i know your desperate for him to fail just so you can get one-man-up-man-ship on 777.
Your back handed compliments and good wishes to Welbeck are so see through.I bet you cringe every time Welbeck scores don't you?
To be honest, you're one of the few users whose opinion I actually care less about than RR's. Unfortunately you're also one of the things that is ruining this site, that and a couple of the admins.
Shame, really.
Phatmann
28-09-2011, 00:16
An accurate assessment. I think we were cagey at the back because of the chopping and changing we've had to do due to injuries. We've played so many different back lines so far this season, we've not had the chance to play a consistent and settled back four
As for carrick I didn't notice him too much, but looked as though him and anderson lost controll in the middle of the park as we didn't look as organised or retain possession as much as we usually do.
Credit indeed to Basel they pressed well and gave it a good go and could have easily won the game.
A draw obviously isn't great but considering how we played I'm grateful we leveled. As we can beat benefica at home and the other team, so it's far from panic mode we were are looking at the prospect of not qualifying.
City are the ones that need to worry at this stage, as they've lost in a very tough group and getting points from the rest of their games will still be very difficult for them.
As for the tevez situation, maybe we could have a poll asking if the United fans would have him back if we sold berbatov in january and tevez became a free agent?
Tevez would be a great asset to the squad but how pleased would he be with being on the bench again? He will inevitably have to sit some games out considering we have Rooney, Hernandez and Welbeck in the squad, probably a better set of options than we had when Tevez was with us. I do think we need to offload Berbatov though. I think he is a good player but there's never a time where I feel we'd be better off if Berbatov was in the team and Fergie seems to not want to play him much either. His contract is up in the summer so letting a £30m man go on a free transfer to another club would be absurd. I reckon we could get maybe £10m for him in January IF there was a big club in desperate need of a striker. That is a big if though.
Why the fuck would we want Tevez, especially after tonights episode? The "I miss Argentina" excuse is never going to go away, so even if we did get a good season or so out of him he'd end up causing unrest at the club. Again.
Moyesavelian
28-09-2011, 00:30
To be honest, you're one of the few users whose opinion I actually care less about than RR's. Unfortunately you're also one of the things that is ruining this site, that and a couple of the admins.
Shame, really.
Please do indulge how i'm contributing to ruining this site?
Or is it just because i have had a difference of opinion with you at times?
Please do indulge how i'm contributing to ruining this site?
Or is it just because i have had a difference of opinion with you at times?
You're a sheep and you create shit threads, often posting for the sake of posting. If it's to do with your age, then fine, but I don't think it is.
Moyesavelian
28-09-2011, 00:37
You're a sheep and you create shit threads, often posting for the sake of posting. If it's to do with your age, then fine, but I don't think it is.
I'm a sheep? Because i agree with 777 on this issue.
Reading through this thread recently 777 has destroyed you with every argument, it really is getting embarrassing for you.You are the type of person who would disagree with someone just because you dislike them.
I would never agree with someone if i didn't believe it!
I'm just not a bitch and scared to side with the most unpopular member.
AgentZero
28-09-2011, 00:38
firm no to Tevez, he has said he doesnt like playing in England why would playing across town change his mind. Also hes a cunt.
I'm a sheep? Because i agree with 777 on this issue.
Reading through this thread recently 777 has destroyed you with every argument, it really is getting embarrassing for you.You are thetype o peron who would disagree with someone just because you dislike them.
I wold never agree with someone if i didn't believe it.
I'm just not a bitch and scared to side with the most unpopular member.
You're a sheep because you have no opinion of your own. On that rare occasion that you do, you create a shit thread about it.
The discussions have been one sided because he insists on making assumptions. He's like a child, insisting he's always right, never admits he's wrong, and eventually bores us into submission. It's very tedious.
Plus, I don't really care about your opinions. You're just another Danny Crespo.
Moyesavelian
28-09-2011, 01:02
You're a sheep because you have no opinion of your own. On that rare occasion that you do, you create a shit thread about it.
you clearly need to read more of my great posts!
I have no opinion, your a sad man .Is that good enough for you?
Funny thing is before you just posted that bullshit, i just posted in the "what you think of the other members"What an idiot you are.
Your name didn't get mentioned because you fly under the radar for me apart from when you talk nonsense about Danny Welbeck:D.
BTW is that supposed to offend me calling my threads shit:lmao:.
you clearly need to read more of my great posts!
I have no opinion, your a sad man .Is that good enough for you?
Funny thing is before you just posted that bullshit, i just posted in the "what you think of the other members"What an idiot you are.
Your name didn't get mentioned because you fly under the radar for me apart from when you talk nonsense about Danny Welbeck:D.
BTW is that supposed to offend me calling my threads shit:lmao:.
You're boring everyone.
Moyesavelian
28-09-2011, 01:10
I'm sorry am i suppose to give a shit?
I'm sorry am i suppose to give a shit?
You keep repeating yourself, so it would appear you do.
Phatmann
28-09-2011, 01:16
Take your petty arguments elsewhere lads, this thread is for talk about Manchester United so let's keep it that way.
Who does everyone reckon will be in our line-up for the Norwich game at the weekend? Fergie often seems to give the fringe players a chance against the newly promoted sides so I think Lindegaard will get a game.
Moyesavelian
28-09-2011, 01:17
You're boring everyone.
I'm sorry am i suppose to give a shit?
You keep repeating yourself, so it would appear you do.
Yes that makes sense.
AgentZero
28-09-2011, 01:20
Take your petty arguments elsewhere lads, this thread is for talk about Manchester United so let's keep it that way.
Who does everyone reckon will be in our line-up for the Norwich game at the weekend? Fergie often seems to give the fringe players a chance against the newly promoted sides so I think Lindegaard will get a game.
id like to see Berba/Owen have a stint...he could be his new Emile.
Just reading your posts I can feel myself becoming dumber.
Blocked.
Now hopefully the thread can get back on track. Norwich on Saturday, shockingly our first 3pm ko of the season :-/
Phatmann
28-09-2011, 01:28
id like to see Berba/Owen have a stint...he could be his new Emile.
AZ, you do realise we aim to win this game right? :laugh: Unless we were playing Aldershot, a Berbatov/Owen strike force would make me more nervous about the game than usual. I suppose it's not as bad as Macheda or Diouf starting though...Christ, that's a scary thought.
Moyesavelian
28-09-2011, 01:30
Just reading your posts I can feel myself becoming dumber.
Blocked.
Now hopefully the thread can get back on track. Norwich on Saturday, shockingly our first 3pm ko of the season :-/
I know im prob going to get banned, but your the faggot that took this off topic and changed the thread to personal attacks , because you got butt hurt because you know you've been making a fool out of yourself for quite a bit now in this thread with your bickering's with rr and even boring sheep like me.Now your trying to take the high ground by blocking ,fucking mug.
Macheda annoys the hell out of me. Whenever he does manage to stay onside (rarely) he usually makes the wrong decisions.
(unless in pre-season)
AgentZero
28-09-2011, 01:44
ive mentioned this in the past and his barnet needs a re-do. Also Owen is on a pretty hot streak for us.
Moyesavelian
28-09-2011, 01:45
id like to see Berba/Owen have a stint...he could be his new Emile.
When Owen partnered Heskey for England/Liverpool he was still good
After Owens last performance , i don't want to see him anywhere near the first team.He really was awful.He had the touch of an elephant.I'd rather see Young partnering Berba ahead of Owen.I really do despise Owen.
Meyyappan
28-09-2011, 06:08
http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/manchester-united-basel-longer-highlights-15469776/
The highlights from you champions league game and again in the 2nd half Ferdinand slips and accidentally denies frei a goal scoring chance on the right of the penalty box,forget cards not even a free-kick is given.
This is the Old-Trafford effect i was stressing to the new guy around here,it seems to have carried on to Europe as well.
On the positive side of things:
Nani is sensational.
De Gea will be fantastic between the posts fot the next decade for the mancunians.
Young is a great signing who is value for money.
Welbeck will certainly be here for the next four years atleast as a back-up striker.
Either rooney or nani will be your best player this season.
I think Nani might end up as good as Pires was if not better,a scary thought but i am sure you mancs underate Pires.
Ultimate777
28-09-2011, 09:20
http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/manchester-united-basel-longer-highlights-15469776/
The highlights from you champions league game and again in the 2nd half Ferdinand slips and accidentally denies frei a goal scoring chance on the right of the penalty box,forget cards not even a free-kick is given.
This is the Old-Trafford effect i was stressing to the new guy around here,it seems to have carried on to Europe as well.
On the positive side of things:
Nani is sensational.
De Gea will be fantastic between the posts fot the next decade for the mancunians.
Young is a great signing who is value for money.
Welbeck will certainly be here for the next four years atleast as a back-up striker.
Either rooney or nani will be your best player this season.
I think Nani might end up as good as Pires was if not better,a scary thought but i am sure you mancs underate Pires.
Good post except for the point about rio preventing frei a goal scoring opportunity. The ref made a good call as anyone could see there was absolutely no intention to obstruct Frei. Just slipped, which he shouldn't have been penalised for. Nothing to do with ''the Old Trafford effect'' otherwise the ref wouldn't have awarded Basel a penalty to take the lead which was the right call.
Maybe if he had gave us a free kick outside the box when Park was clothesline by a Basel that run of play may never have happened
Made no difference really as shortly after they scored anyway.
I expected the referee to give a card if I'm honest. I've seen them given before, but was grateful he didn't. The ref was probably too busy marking our players out the game to see it properly ;)
Meyyappan
28-09-2011, 09:59
Good post except for the point about rio preventing frei a goal scoring opportunity. The ref made a good call as anyone could see there was absolutely no intention to obstruct Frei. Just slipped, which he shouldn't have been penalised for. Nothing to do with ''the Old Trafford effect'' otherwise the ref wouldn't have awarded Basel a penalty to take the lead which was the right call.
Maybe if he had gave us a free kick outside the box when Park was clothesline by a Basel that run of play may never have happened
Made no difference really as shortly after they scored anyway.
I understand it was an accident i even said he felled frei accidentally but it was still from frei's point of view an illegal move that prevented him from assaulting Man Utd.
Hence either a yellow card or a free-kick would have been fine decisions if you think awarding both would have been too much.
:unsure:
assaulting Man Utd.
:laugh:
Meyyappan
28-09-2011, 10:16
:laugh:
Come on he got a hat-trick man or was one of the goals scored by another frei because i heard there were two freis on the field for basel.
But that comment was Lulz:laugh:
But if it was the same frei four goals against united old trafford would suit the comment:ninja:
I also think if you had signed Scott Parker it would have been best for both parties involved.
But maybe you did not because fletcher was similar to him??
Because he certainly would not replace Hargereves as i do not think he had anywhere near the passing,crossing and free-kick taking ability but certainly does possess stamina and defending ability and can spray the ball around just fine for a defensive central midfielder and is english which fergie loves having around his squad.
And yes he would have been on the field and not the injury table.
It was two different Freis, although Alexander was pretty decent last night, as was Streller. However if you give anyone in the Champions League as much space and time on the ball as we did, you should expect to be punished.
I always saw Parker as a medium sized fish in a small pond (West Ham), but now he's in a medium pond (Spurs) :laugh:
I don't think Parker was ever a target for us; plus I think Parker would want to be playing week in, week out, to keep his England place. With the number of decent central midfielders we already have, and in hindsight the progress of the Anderson/Cleverley partnership, I don't know if we could have guaranteed him the playing time he wanted.
Hargreaves was very good for us when he wasn't shattering into a million pieces. His move to City did puzzle me at first, especially when WBA were offering him 30-40 games a season (if his body could handle it), but perhaps he is happy collecting a tidy salary by sitting on the bench/in the reserves/on the physio's table. It seemed quite out of character when he came out and had somewhat of a pop at our medical staff, but that just reeks of City. Not even the world renowned Richard Steadman could fix the problem, yet it's the fault of our staff? Hmmmm
It's not just the English, we've had our fair share of Irishmen in the last 10 or so years. I like that we have so many British players; especially as they're not players like Henderson or Carrol :laugh:
Ultimate777
28-09-2011, 10:59
It was stupid to let Hargreaves go to be honest. The guy was offering to play for free. We could have easily had him on a pay as you play contract and there was enough room in our 25 man squad to include.
This is why I bear no grudge towards his move to City. Also they were the only club willing to take the gamble for him and offer him a concrete contract and it looks as though it will pay off.
What's more dumbfounding is our reluctlance to add another holding midfielder to our ranks. As good as carrick is at protecting the defense he is not mobile enough and now offers nothing going forward. Fletcher is just pointless if you ask me, just there to fill in the numbers. Seriously he should be playing for the likes of Everton or West Brom, that's his level. Whenever he's asked to do more than hassle the opposition he's left wanting.
Anderson and cleverly are clearly too naive to be relied upon consistently. Neither have very good positional sense in being able to track runners in the hole.
Parker could have been a good shout however the reasons Ziss listed are valid as to why we didn't go in for him
However there were plenty of other alternatives for example M'villa who is a big United fan could have been picked up. Benega from Valencia could have been an option.
At the moment I think we are heavily relying on our wings and rooney for our creativity and impetus in the final third.
I didn't expect Hargreaves to play a great deal again after we let him go, and to be fair to United we did give him a long time to prove his fitness. Perhaps it was all in his head, and once he left it gave him some peace of mind? I know players want to play at the highest level, but having been out as long as he had, I think WBA would have been a great move for him. Keeping him here for free would have only hampered the progress of Anderson, Cleverley, Pogba etc.
I do agree that we're light in the centre of midfield, in a creative sense. I would like to see someone like Ramsey here, who can play defensive but also has a creative side. Hopefully Pogba is sent out on loan in January to get some more playing time, and we invest in a midfielder or two next Summer (SAF won't in January).
I'm so glad I was wrong about Nani; as soon as he came on yesterday we actually used the wings a lot more, rather than trying to go through the middle (which was packed with about 16 players. The cross for Young's goal was superb.
When is Rooney back? I've heard a week, and I've heard three weeks? Luckily we've got an international break coming up, so he can try get fit for the Liverpool game.
Meyyappan
28-09-2011, 14:30
Still a miracle we managed to steal Ramsey from you people,seeing at that time we played 4-4-2 and had fabregas flamini whilst you people were european and premiership champions and were looking for a scholes replacement but unfortunately smalling and jones made the right moves for their careers.
Still a miracle we managed to steal Ramsey from you people,seeing at that time we played 4-4-2 and had fabregas flamini whilst you people were european and premiership champions and were looking for a scholes replacement but unfortunately smalling and jones made the right moves for their careers.
It wasn't a miracle, we offered 3 times more in wages than what Utd were prepared. Why do you think so many young players opt to join us? You'd have to be very naive to think it's just down to working with Wenger and the opportunities he gives you.
Meyyappan
28-09-2011, 18:59
It wasn't a miracle, we offered 3 times more in wages than what Utd were prepared. Why do you think so many young players opt to join us? You'd have to be very naive to think it's just down to working with Wenger and the opportunities he gives you.
:o Really but when i saw nani and anderson coming in at 07-08 for man utd they just did seem like atleast 50-0k earners...
Or do they underpay British youth?
But then again it was so early in his career a the age of 17 he really need not think about the money especially with his ability and potential.:no:
Edit:I just now verified both Anderson and Nani were on 50k per week on their debut season and i do not think we pay nasri 150k or 100k or even 75k for that matter,it would be the same range aroung 45k-55k.
Nasri was on 55k only for god's sake and he had proved he was a class player and a great prospect on his debut season at the mere age of 21.
Or do you want to say man utd offered 20-30k to ramsey that would seem so odd.
Ultimate777
28-09-2011, 19:19
I didn't expect Hargreaves to play a great deal again after we let him go, and to be fair to United we did give him a long time to prove his fitness. Perhaps it was all in his head, and once he left it gave him some peace of mind? I know players want to play at the highest level, but having been out as long as he had, I think WBA would have been a great move for him. Keeping him here for free would have only hampered the progress of Anderson, Cleverley, Pogba etc.
It wouldn't have hampered the progress of pogba. The guy clearly is not ready for first team action at all besides a few games in the CC. Theres no shame in that as he's only 17. He needs to be loaned out for two seasons. AlsoI don't see how it would have hampered anderson or cleverly. Maybe their partnership however one or the other would have played alongside hargreaves who would be a better slot than carrick or fletcher. Hargreaves/anderson or cleverly and those two are hardly going to play 60 games. I feel we didn't have to get rid of hargreaves and think the decision was more to do with annoyance rather than necessity in regards to letting him go. He was making progress as the last injuries he suffered had nothing to do with his knee which was the main problem that kept him out for so long.
I do agree that we're light in the centre of midfield, in a creative sense. I would like to see someone like Ramsey here, who can play defensive but also has a creative side. Hopefully Pogba is sent out on loan in January to get some more playing time, and we invest in a midfielder or two next Summer (SAF won't in January).
Fuck Ramsey! He had his chance to join a proper club but now let him rot at Arsenal juniors and win nothing. Hopefully you're right we'll get someone in the january window.
I'm so glad I was wrong about Nani; as soon as he came on yesterday we actually used the wings a lot more, rather than trying to go through the middle (which was packed with about 16 players. The cross for Young's goal was superb.
I never doubted nani, he always showed his quality as soon as he joined. He was just inconsistent and lacked maturity. However if you remember the progress and transition ronaldo made where he was inconsistent and lacked decision making, you'd know he was going to grow into a great player also. Very similar players with the same degree of potential. This is why i don't get that you keep failing to learn lessons and write off youngster like wellbeck when anyone can see he's a star in the making. 20 years old and he's terrorising defensives against the top premiership clubs which is no average feat.
When is Rooney back? I've heard a week, and I've heard three weeks? Luckily we've got an international break coming up, so he can try get fit for the Liverpool game.
Sir alex says he'll be out for a few weeks so he should return after the international break.
Rumour has it that De Gea was caught trying to steal a doughnut from Tescos :facepalm:
IronCity
30-09-2011, 18:59
I had no idea you guys had Krispy Kreme in the U.K. I eat at the original Krispy Kreme store, the first ever. Amazing they are now overseas - they have never spent a single dollar on advertising here - they rely only on word of mouth promotion and have done it successfully. I may have to pick up a few hot glazed before the game to give De Gea his props.
I had no idea you guys had Krispy Kreme in the U.K. I eat at the original Krispy Kreme store, the first ever. Amazing they are now overseas - they have never spent a single dollar on advertising here - they rely only on word of mouth promotion and have done it successfully. I may have to pick up a few hot glazed before the game to give De Gea his props.
They still do whipped cream filled ones over there? They stopped them about a year ago (I was told because of seasons) but as of yet haven't brought them back?
Moyesavelian
30-09-2011, 19:09
What makes you think it's a krispy kream donut iron?
IronCity
30-09-2011, 19:42
They still do whipped cream filled ones over there? They stopped them about a year ago (I was told because of seasons) but as of yet haven't brought them back?
they do have creme filled and I sometimes hit that up. But I am a "hot now" fan. When that red neon light is on letting me know they are piping hot my car is on autopilot. Those things melt in your hands.
What makes you think it's a krispy kream donut iron?
ran into this story - don't know its credibility but fun to think it was krispy kreme nonetheless
http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/blog/dirty-tackle/post/De-Gea-allegedly-caught-stealing-a-single-Krispy?urn=sow-wp5328
Lindegaard starts. Not surprised. Its been a rough few weeks for De Gea, he's done well but it's a steep learning curve.
Good to see Fletcher starting and Rooney is back.
Moyesavelian
01-10-2011, 15:38
First 5 minutes Fletcher lost the ball 4 times with misplaced passes:facepalm:.
Looking fucking sloppy apart from Nani.I'm surprised both Rooney and Hernandez both started after coming back from injury.Hopefully Berbatov doesn't get the nod ahead of Welbeck when one of the strikers are subbed..
Meyyappan
01-10-2011, 15:41
Its been 6 years since Man utd lost a game that kicked off 3pm at old trafford,enjoy another happy win.
Moyesavelian
01-10-2011, 22:04
Right as always Meyappan.
Good to see the goal scoring machine that is Welbeck get on the score sheet again.Really is putting his price up though for next year when he joins a mid table mediocratey club though.:troll:
Its been 6 years since Man utd lost a game that kicked off 3pm at old trafford,enjoy another happy win.
Was that against Liverpool?
Blackburn.
Pretty poor performance today, lucky to get away with a victory. I hope Fergie realises Valencia should only play right-back as an absolute last resort.
Ultimate777
01-10-2011, 22:44
Right as always Meyappan.
Good to see the goal scoring machine that is Welbeck get on the score sheet again.Really is putting his price up though for next year when he joins a mid table mediocratey club though.:troll:
:laugh: hey don't you realise Kevin Doyle is a much better player than wellbeck
Considering you blow the guy at any opportunity, you'd think you would be able to spell his name correctly by now ;)
Ultimate777
02-10-2011, 09:24
Considering you blow the guy at any opportunity, you'd think you would be able to spell his name correctly by now ;)
No my friend I only mention him a lot because he deserves praise. He's beginning to score for fun now and is even making a good case for himself to start ahead of hernandez after already de-placing allegedly one of the most talented players at the club in Berbatov.
What I don't get is why he's not getting as much plaudits. You only have to look at the mass hysteria when carroll started scoring goals for newcastle last season and there were media campaigns for him to start immediately for England and hyping him up to be the best english striker that's ever existed.
I don't see any of that for Welbeck even though he's clearly the better talent.
Ali_BWFC
02-10-2011, 10:39
I knew you guys would be arguing about bloody Welbeck again! :facepalm:
No my friend I only mention him a lot because he deserves praise. He's beginning to score for fun now and is even making a good case for himself to start ahead of hernandez after already de-placing allegedly one of the most talented players at the club in Berbatov.
What I don't get is why he's not getting as much plaudits. You only have to look at the mass hysteria when carroll started scoring goals for newcastle last season and there were media campaigns for him to start immediately for England and hyping him up to be the best english striker that's ever existed.
I don't see any of that for Welbeck even though he's clearly the better talent.
I'm all for being proven wrong, as it will only benefit my club.
Carroll got praise from scoring in a lower league; perhaps they're looking for a Geordie boy to take over from Shearer and he was the closest they could find?
Meyyappan
02-10-2011, 15:01
Sir Alex Ferguson claims he could remain in the Manchester United hot-seat for another four years.
The legendary Scot has already occupied the position for 25 years, overseeing a glittering era in the Red Devils' history.
He came close to stepping down in 2002, but a change of heart saw him shelve his retirement plans indefinitely.
Speculation continues to rage regarding his Old Trafford tenure, with various dates offered up as potential end points.
Ferguson, though, has always maintained that he will stay on for as long as he is enjoying his work and for as long as he feels he can do the job.
He may be fast approaching his 70th birthday, but the Scot insists he has no plans to walk away any time soon, with it possible that he could remain in the post until 2015.
"I've got three or four years left," said Ferguson.
"I feel good. But when I do leave, I will leave in place a strong young team that will continue to succeed for my successor."
Ferguson has helped United to dominate English football and claims his success is down to creating a mentality that is geared more towards the collective effort than individual reward.
He added: "It's all about team spirit.
"In a match, I only need eight of my players to be on top form. If the other three aren't up to it, it's not €serious. The other eight do the work for them.
"There has only been six matches where I've had all 11 players perform at their very best. It's like swallows. They always fly together in a group, in a V formation, and those at the front do the majority of the work. And they alternate regularly.
"If one swallow flies out of formation, two others go to get him and bring him back into the group. It's the same in my teams - sacrifice, friendship, and the giving of oneself to the team."
I noticed the 8 player 3 player thing he is talking about.
IronCity
11-10-2011, 15:58
wow, am I reading correctly that Vidic and Cleverly could be available this weekend? 8 weeks for Vidic, I imagine they have to be close to working him back in.
Hopefully Vidic comes back strong. We're pretty shakey at the back in the last few weeks.
Moyesavelian
11-10-2011, 16:18
Incredible that stat that i heard last week that De Gea's been the busiest goalkeeper in the league.Really need Vidic's commanding presence back in the team.
Ultimate777
11-10-2011, 17:34
Incredible that stat that i heard last week that De Gea's been the busiest goalkeeper in the league.Really need Vidic's commanding presence back in the team.
Since the third week of the season he's it's been recorded that he's had to make the most saves in the prem.
Still doesn't get any praise for it, only criticism and journalists questioning his ability. While Golden boy Joe Hart keeps fucking up every week, but it's never his fault.
IronCity
11-10-2011, 21:21
don't do it Chicharito, don't do it. I know the rumors have been circulating but they seem dangerously real today. Sir Alex was on U.S. radio this morning talking about it. From a North American supporter of Man U I would hate to see him go and then play for a club I have no interest in supporting.
Moyesavelian
11-10-2011, 21:48
Real are suppose to be after him.
But the story has come from the sun newspaper so.....
IronCity
11-10-2011, 21:49
Huh?
there are always the Goal.com type rumors I never listen to but sometimes greater rumors scare me more
Real Madrid are preparing a major offer for Manchester United striker Javier Hernandez.
The Sun says Chicharito is a shock £30million target for Real Madrid.
The Spanish giants have put the Manchester United striker top of their wanted list.
But boss Alex Ferguson is desperate to keep the 23-year-old Mexican at Old Trafford.
United want him to sign a new five-year deal, tripling his wages from £25,000 to £75,000.
But Real would be prepared to double that again and pay a transfer fee which represents five times what United bought the striker for when they took him from Chivas for £6m just 18 months ago.
Ultimate777
11-10-2011, 21:50
Huh?
It's been reported that madrid are lining up a 30 million bid for hernandez.
Which I believe is nonsense, considering the strikers they already have at their disposal. However if they were serious then we would have to consider it.
Moyesavelian
11-10-2011, 21:51
International week these story's usually come out.
IronCity
11-10-2011, 21:57
Real are suppose to be after him.
But the story has come from the sun newspaper so.....
I don't know the Sun but once click towards their website told me a all I need to know.
Hernandez is playing for Mexico tonight. It is on espn2 (U.S.) and streaming on espn3. The boy needs a rest. On top of the dead leg the plane rides alone are a bit much.
Moyesavelian
11-10-2011, 22:29
I think Welbeck and Rooney will start at the weekend because of this.^.
IronCity
11-10-2011, 22:40
probably correct. SAF has been in the U.S., I like how he said on our radio this morning he didn't see the Rooney kick incident from the England match. Good way to avoid discussion; of course he saw it.
Cannon ball
11-10-2011, 22:43
Since the third week of the season he's it's been recorded that he's had to make the most saves in the prem.
Still doesn't get any praise for it, only criticism and journalists questioning his ability. While Golden boy Joe Hart keeps fucking up every week, but it's never his fault.
Those stats won't tell you anything, most of those could have been fairly routine saves, he seems to have been tested with a lot of long range efforts so far.
Hart is hardly the Golden boy. He's not the finished article, his distribution needs much improvement.
Moyesavelian
11-10-2011, 22:45
probably correct. SAF has been in the U.S., I like how he said on our radio this morning he didn't see the Rooney kick incident from the England match. Good way to avoid discussion; of course he saw it.
Taking a page out of the kiddy fiddlers book.
Ultimate777
11-10-2011, 23:14
Those stats won't tell you anything, most of those could have been fairly routine saves, he seems to have been tested with a lot of long range efforts so far.
Hart is hardly the Golden boy. He's not the finished article, his distribution needs much improvement.
I'm not saying he's been amazing, however he's done well considering he's only 20. He's made some top saves and all the commentators or pundits say is the attacker should have done better or wait until he comes up against so and so.
For example the Ramires save he made against chelsea. Instead of praising De Gea, they just criticised ramires for poor finishing. Against Stoke, he done very well considering many were anticipating for him to fold under the relentless long balls and big tall stoke forwards yet no credit was given.
Compare that to Joe Mr Englands Hart who has only got to pick up the ball and scream at his defence for the media to get a hard on for him
Bammers05
12-10-2011, 00:12
probably correct. SAF has been in the U.S., I like how he said on our radio this morning he didn't see the Rooney kick incident from the England match. Good way to avoid discussion; of course he saw it.
Or he could just be blind and myopic, like Wenger is always accused of being, when he does exactly the same thing? :willfrown:
Chicharito rumours are probably bollocks, but if they are true, I reckon you guys could hold out for a bit more than £30m tbh. How long is his contract btw?
IronCity
12-10-2011, 03:07
Or he could just be blind and myopic, like Wenger is always accused of being, when he does exactly the same thing?
Chicharito rumours are probably bollocks, but if they are true, I reckon you guys could hold out for a bit more than £30m tbh. How long is his contract btw?
I bet they are true, but there are probably a lot of teams wanting him. Why not. Additional rumors today include Man U trying to sign him to a new six year deal; something about his contract was to be reviewed at the end of this season but United wanting to step that up with the Real Madrid talk. However, this new story is a goal.com rumor so to be taken lightly.
I stopped in at a latin-american grocery store near my home after work - a lot of people in there getting ready to watch the MEX - BRA game on their big screen. They all heard the rumor when I brought it up and they were more in the camp of wanting him to go to Real Madrid. But then again, there were Mexico national jerseys and Real Madrid jerseys hanging from the ceiling for sale.
These ESPN2 broadcasters for the Mexico match are absolutely horrible
IronCity
12-10-2011, 04:55
as a side note, United fans will be happy that the new DLC adds Pogba and Will Keane to the game.
Ultimate777
12-10-2011, 06:35
Or he could just be blind and myopic, like Wenger is always accused of being, when he does exactly the same thing? :willfrown:
Chicharito rumours are probably bollocks, but if they are true, I reckon you guys could hold out for a bit more than £30m tbh. How long is his contract btw?
Shouldn't you be more concerned with your sinking ship that you call a club?
Do not dare try and put Sir Alex in the same category as that arrogant clown who has always got someone else to blame for his shortcomings.
Anyway whatever iron city chooses to believe I don't really care, however it's fairly reasonable that if someone is out of the country then it's fairly likely that they won't have caught the England game live. Especially in the states, who don't go out of their way to broadcast england internationals.
It's a far cry from being on the fucking pitch and then trying to treat people like mugs telling all and sundry that they didn't see the incident even though they;re on the touchline. Funny how they always see it when it happens to their players but not the opposing team. Managers like king kunt and arsene wenger are the worst hypocrites in the league
Jonno394
12-10-2011, 08:50
Come on, this is Alex Ferguson we're talking about, of course he'll have seen the incident in some form or another, Rooney is one of his biggest players so i'm sure he has feelers out even when he is out of the country, in this day and age it only takes an email with a video attachment.
Most managers are cunts, especially those at the big clubs who take losing quite badly and always find something else to blame like the referee or teams being too physical etc, but they are right in keeping a lot of their discussions in house, why should they air everything in the public domain, it isn't as if he'll come out and say
"Yeah I saw it and he was a stupid prick"
he'll probably just pull him to one side in private and ask him what the hell he was thinking.
Come on, this is Alex Ferguson we're talking about, of course he'll have seen the incident in some form or another, Rooney is one of his biggest players so i'm sure he has feelers out even when he is out of the country, in this day and age it only takes an email with a video attachment.
Most managers are cunts, especially those at the big clubs who take losing quite badly and always find something else to blame like the referee or teams being too physical etc, but they are right in keeping a lot of their discussions in house, why should they air everything in the public domain, it isn't as if he'll come out and say
"Yeah I saw it and he was a stupid prick"
he'll probably just pull him to one side in private and ask him what the hell he was thinking.
Which is fair enough really. Why would he want more shit being spouted around the media. It also must be a pain in the ass for most managers when they're constantly asked the same questions over and over, so giving the whole "I didn't see it" is a short swift answer.
^ Yeah, but then you have a lot of hypocrites who get angry when one manager says it, but accepts it when their manager says it.
Moyesavelian
12-10-2011, 12:19
Maybe he just didn't want to admit to watching the baarrstard IInnglish
IronCity
12-10-2011, 13:40
Anyway whatever iron city chooses to believe I don't really care, however it's fairly reasonable that if someone is out of the country then it's fairly likely that they won't have caught the England game live. Especially in the states, who don't go out of their way to broadcast england internationals.
I watched it live
Hernandez is never worth £30 million.
Ultimate777
12-10-2011, 18:19
Come on, this is Alex Ferguson we're talking about, of course he'll have seen the incident in some form or another, Rooney is one of his biggest players so i'm sure he has feelers out even when he is out of the country, in this day and age it only takes an email with a video attachment.
Most managers are cunts, especially those at the big clubs who take losing quite badly and always find something else to blame like the referee or teams being too physical etc, but they are right in keeping a lot of their discussions in house, why should they air everything in the public domain, it isn't as if he'll come out and say
"Yeah I saw it and he was a stupid prick"
he'll probably just pull him to one side in private and ask him what the hell he was thinking.
With all things considered, I don't think you're in a position to be discussing things at this level.
I doubt at the time when fergie was away in the states and asked the question, he had gone through watching all his players on international duty.
What you've said is merely speculation. Had he been at the match and claimed he couldn't see it, then you'd have a point. However since that didn't happen you don't have one.
BarnDoor
12-10-2011, 18:25
Hernandez is never worth £30 million.
He's a little shit eating cunt thats for sure
Ultimate777
12-10-2011, 18:30
He's a little shit eating cunt thats for sure
What has Hernandez done for you to dislike him? He's no worse than any of those newcaslte players who turn out to be serial rapists and convicts
BarnDoor
12-10-2011, 18:36
What has Hernandez done for you to dislike him? He's no worse than any of those newcaslte players who turn out to be serial rapists and convicts
I've already discussed it in other threads, putting him in the category of 'Diving little flanges'. Now if your refering to Titus Bramble you'll get no arguement from me as I have long hated the fat talentless bastard but as he does not play for us anymore the laughter has helped stem the hatred somewhat
Jonno394
12-10-2011, 18:43
With all things considered, I don't think you're in a position to be discussing things at this level.
At this level? Explain yourself.
Oh and nice way to bypass the point I was making about how managers are well within their rights to keep their thoughts in house.....but as you said, I didn't have a point...
Moyesavelian
12-10-2011, 19:02
So....... it begins....again
*gets popcorn*
Bammers05
12-10-2011, 20:14
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Ultimate777
12-10-2011, 20:16
I've already discussed it in other threads, putting him in the category of 'Diving little flanges'. Now if your refering to Titus Bramble you'll get no arguement from me as I have long hated the fat talentless bastard but as he does not play for us anymore the laughter has helped stem the hatred somewhat
He must have dived once last season, against wolves if I remember. After that I can't recall any high profile incidents where he's been blatantly diving ala Luis Suárez. Hernandez is one of the good guys in the sport and is an inspiration for any kid looking to become a footballer. Compare that to the likes of bramble and barton and the difference is light and day.
Newcastle has become a breeding ground for future criminals who have no regard for the law or their fellow human beings
At this level? Explain yourself.
Oh and nice way to bypass the point I was making about how managers are well within their rights to keep their thoughts in house.....but as you said, I didn't have a point...
What I'm saying is that you're not really the best person to be discussing top flight football with.
Anyway of course managers are within their right to keep their thoughts in house especially in regards to criticising players or outlining what sort of stance the club will take on the matter. However when an incident has just happened right in front of their eyes and they are questioned on their opinion of whether the ref made the right call or not, then there is absolutely no need to lie and pretend they didn't see it. The manager saying whether or not he agrees or disagrees with the ref is not hanging a player out of dry or airing the clubs dirty laundry out in public
Furthermore, Fergies reason's for not seeing the situation with rooney are understandable and there is no reason to believe he was telling fibs. He's given his opinion in the past regarding controversies involving rooney when he's been at the England set up. So it's not as if he's shy of giving his opinion. Anyway it's not his responsibility to how rooney behaves for england, that's why they have a coach for the national team.
Jonno394
12-10-2011, 21:33
What I'm saying is that you're not really the best person to be discussing top flight football with.
So basically you're just being your normal self, that's ok i understand.
Ultimate777
12-10-2011, 21:59
So basically you're just being your normal self, that's ok i understand.
Did you read what I wrote? You can't really disagree with it, no matter how many pms of abuse you want to send me.
Jonno394
12-10-2011, 22:10
No I didn't because your a phallus. You can't really disagree with that no matter how many pms of abuse you want to send me.
Epic usage of the word 'phallus' there ;)
Ultimate777
12-10-2011, 22:27
No I didn't because your a phallus. You can't really disagree with that no matter how many pms of abuse you want to send me.
Look at your comment. Back to mine. Back to yours NOW BACK TO MINE. Sadly, it isn't mine. But if you stopped trolling and started posting something legitimate and worthy of discussion, it could LOOK like mine. Look down, back up, where are you? You're scrolling through comments, finding the ones that your comment could look like. Back at mine, what is it? It's a highly effective counter-troll. Look again, MY COMMENT IS NOW DIAMONDS. Anything is possible when you think before you post, SON.
Bammers05
13-10-2011, 00:06
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Hernandez has signed a new contract :)
IronCity
13-10-2011, 13:26
Hernandez has signed a new contract :)
so goal.com got it right this time. Man U had to be feeling the pressure of Real Madrid.
I remember writing on this thread in preseason when Man U was over here slamming goals against the like of Chicago and Seattle that Phil Jones looked stiff as a board. I could not have been more wrong. I love watching this guy.
so Nemanja will likely be back and Ferdinand as well. Do they put Jones in at RB to keep him on the field? I feel like Jones could simply replace Ferdinand but if not hard not to play him in anyway.
Moyesavelian
13-10-2011, 13:38
Right now i still think Smalling is the better defender than Jones in a positional sense and reading the game.
BarnDoor
13-10-2011, 15:59
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Bammers if you don't like them having a discussion maybe fucking off back to the Arsenal thread would be a good idea?
Ultimate777
13-10-2011, 16:35
Bammers if you don't like them having a discussion maybe fucking off back to the Arsenal thread would be a good idea?
That's the best thing advice I've seen you give on this forum. Well done.
I am beginning to get fed up of his stupid images he keeps posting every where. I was going to say something to the boy, but I know if I said it, I'll get banned.
IronCity
13-10-2011, 16:40
lighten up francis(s)
+1 for bammers,
IronCity
14-10-2011, 19:59
I have read that Javier Hernandez contract is official and complete - video details below (requires sound)
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Bammers05
14-10-2011, 20:02
Bammers if you don't like them having a discussion maybe fucking off back to the Arsenal thread would be a good idea?
That's the best thing advice I've seen you give on this forum. Well done.
I am beginning to get fed up of his stupid images he keeps posting every where. I was going to say something to the boy, but I know if I said it, I'll get banned.
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Ultimate777
14-10-2011, 20:15
Was it worth it? Did you laugh when you saw that picture? Because I didn't because I've seen it before and frankly it's fucking lame.
For real though Bammers. The pictures and memes are old. Stop spamming/trolling.
Bammers05
14-10-2011, 21:42
I understand what you're saying, Joel, and I promise to stop posting the same old pictures over and over again, when I stop having to read the same old arguments over and over again :folarm:
Keyser Soze
14-10-2011, 21:54
Don't read them then? But don't punish us all by constantly posting unfunny pictures like a 13 year old who's just discovered an internet forum in 2006. :folarm:
Don't read them then? But don't punish us all by constantly posting unfunny pictures like a 13 year old who's just discovered an internet forum in 2006. :folarm:
This.
Im glad someone has finally said it!
Bammers05
14-10-2011, 23:38
Okay, guys. Point taken. I'll try to cut down and stop posting them in future (although I only do so, most of the time, because I feel they illustrate a point better than I could with just words, but I suppose that's irrelevant. As I said though, I'll do my best not to post them in future.)
Phatmann
14-10-2011, 23:38
Predictions for the game tomorrow? I'm going Liverpool 2-1 Man Utd, Suarez wins a pen, Vidic gets sent off, Carragher decapitates someone and gets away with it. Then there will be suggestions of us not being good enough to win the league but we will proceed to win the next 4 league games on the trot and build up a healthy 6 point lead at the top.
We've got City at home & Everton away after this, Mike.
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Phatmann
14-10-2011, 23:52
We will destroy both.
StringerBell
15-10-2011, 04:05
Speaking of Lebron...
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Foxhound
15-10-2011, 05:37
I'd take another 0-1 result, with Liverpool dominating most of the match, and United to score during injury time.
Ultimate777
15-10-2011, 06:00
Okay, guys. Point taken. I'll try to cut down and stop posting them in future (although I only do so, most of the time, because I feel they illustrate a point better than I could with just words, but I suppose that's irrelevant. As I said though, I'll do my best not to post them in future.)
Don't turn into a mini laughing man. You use to be able to articulate your points fairly well without troll pictures. Don't bring yourself down, fair enough your team are doing that but you don't have to as well.
And you don't want to fall into hypocrisy. After all it wasn't long ago that tears where running down your face accusing others of trolling.
Phatmann
19-10-2011, 19:21
The Otelul game was one of the most boring matches I've watched involving Man U this season. Thankfully we managed to scrape through with a win which was vital considering how we've started this CL campaign. Rooney and Hernandez didn't look on top form but they got the job done winning penalties and free kicks. I would've liked to see Valencia take on the full back more often and I actually thought Carrick played pretty well, making a couple of vital blocks. Vidic shouldn't have been sent off, although when watching it in real time it looked like it might have been a red. After seeing the replays it was obviously a yellow but the ref had a pretty poor game overall, especially when he booked Carrick for an excellent challenge.
Ultimate777
19-10-2011, 19:33
The Otelul game was one of the most boring matches I've watched involving Man U this season. Thankfully we managed to scrape through with a win which was vital considering how we've started this CL campaign. Rooney and Hernandez didn't look on top form but they got the job done winning penalties and free kicks. I would've liked to see Valencia take on the full back more often and I actually thought Carrick played pretty well, making a couple of vital blocks. Vidic shouldn't have been sent off, although when watching it in real time it looked like it might have been a red. After seeing the replays it was obviously a yellow but the ref had a pretty poor game overall, especially when he booked Carrick for an excellent challenge.
Yeah it was very boring until those succession of controversial incidents took place.
The team looked disjointed. Valancia didn't offer very much width or look threatening at all. His form so far this season has been very poor compared to his usual standards.
Vidic looked rusty, in live action his tackle did look dangerous and reckless so the ref can be forgiven for giving a straight red even though in slow mo reply it shows it should have been yellow.
Carrick was fantastic last night and the difference was that his work rate and determination to track runners throughout was very high to compared to his usual lacklustre performances. Also his passing was on point and didn't have one of his moments where he would give away possession in a key area of the pitch
I think it's because again we've been choping and changing so much in europe why we've not looked our usual selves in the competition this year.
Still I'd rather we start slowly in the group stages and pick up the pace in the knockout rounds.
Phatmann
19-10-2011, 19:41
The only worry is that we drop points against Basel or Benfica. If we only manage a draw against Benfica then they could be in prime position to finish 1st if they beat Basel at home in their next match. The last thing we want to do is finish 2nd in the group which at the moment isn't too farfetched a notion. I do believe that we will do the business and win the next two games but the Basel away fixture in the last game could be a dodgy one.
Line-up:
De Gea
Smalling
Ferdinand
Evans
Evra
Nani
Fletcher
Anderson
Young
Rooney
Welbeck
subs: Lindegaard, Jones, Park, Hernandez, Berbatov, Fabio, Valencia
Phatmann
23-10-2011, 13:09
Evans? Oh fuck. :doh: Hopefully Fletcher can up his game a bit as he doesn't seem to have got back to his top form just yet. Also, Carrick has had a few decent games so it's a little disappointing that he's not starting but maybe it's the right call. Having said that, it looks like Carrick isn't even on the bench, is he injured?
*sigh*
Evans never to play for the club again. Was surprised to see him after the West Ham 4-0 last season, so hopefully this convinces Ferguson.
Welbeck was left up front on his own again, Rooney was too busy trying to do Anderson and Fletcher's jobs and Evra was Evra; nowhere to be seen in our half. Everyone else was shit.
Just got back from my niece's Christening. Was there a game today? Think I'll check it out in May. :hmm:
Just got back from my niece's Christening. Was there a game today? Think I'll check it out in May. :hmm:
We were all over them for 20 minutes, they scored, they dominated for rest of half. Evans got sent off for being Irish at start of second half, they cut us apart with two sweaty FIFA goals and the three in injury time when we were, for some reason, going gun ho to try get a second.
Oh well. Opportune time to bust this out.
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Foxhound
23-10-2011, 16:52
Bastards
Cannon ball
23-10-2011, 17:04
Oh well. Opportune time to bust this out.
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Its a good job United don't spend any money, oh wait...
I can't remember Edwards having a great deal of money that he invested into the club, only when we floated on the stock market did we have a bit of money. Our success earned us money from then on. Hardly selling out to a bunch of Arabs and buying players like Lescott for £24m :erm:
Cannon ball
23-10-2011, 18:55
I can't remember Edwards having a great deal of money that he invested into the club, only when we floated on the stock market did we have a bit of money. Our success earned us money from then on. Hardly selling out to a bunch of Arabs and buying players like Lescott for £24m :erm:
Edwards bankrolled one of the biggest spending spree's in English football during Ferguson's early years, to bridge the gap between yourselves and Liverpool, and the irony was, it made you regress as a team. You spent so much, you went into debt, and you were in the right place at the right time in 1992, when the Sky money starting flooding in, and spending more than anyone else.
I agree that we were fortunate to win the first EPL, but your financing can't be compared to ours, perhaps only to Chelsea.
Like I said earlier, at least we didn't get merked by Liverpool :-/
Billy Minof
23-10-2011, 21:33
There was alot of money on the bench for United today, United fans should always look in the mirror before slagging off City and Chelsea fans, the best modern day club has to be Arsenal, granted they havent won a trophy in 6 years but they have always been challenging, that with selling there best players year after year and credit has to go to them for that alone.
Dundon's
24-10-2011, 13:46
Man City fans have not seen a win like this since they were Chelsea fans...
Man City fans have not seen a win like this since they were Chelsea fans...
I was going to crack that one, but it wouldn't make me feel any better.
Still doesn't feel like we lost 6-1. I think they only had 7 shots on target? :-/
Jonno394
24-10-2011, 14:01
I bet the tens of thousands of United fans who travelled up from London yesterday are getting some stick off there arsenal mates.
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AgentZero
24-10-2011, 14:55
don't bite on the trolly-pop man. So I just got off eBay and have proceeded to buy fireworks with instructions for our strikers. Let's hope it gets past customs, maybe they can bag a brace like old Mario.
Major rage but, in the grand scheme of things the only way is up after a very forgettable Sept/October in terms of form. I love the immediate pot shots by mainly my arsenal mates who still had bit of grapes left.
being a yuppie: sent from iPhone
At the end of the day our defence has been dodgey for weeks. We were bound to be found out at some point. I'm still fucking fuming letting in 3 within minutes of each other at the end.
Hopefully we can sort our defence out immediately.
I was down in the Capital on Sunday, supporting my other team during their thrilling victory. As a consequence I missed the derby due to a mixture of travelling (damn, I hate trying to get anywhere in Londonia) and getting into the event, therefore I decree it never happened and all those gloating new City fans and supporters of pointless other clubs can frankly go and fuck themselves :folarm:
Moyesavelian
24-10-2011, 20:57
It kicked off last night big time over the match, gangs of utd fans and City fans going at it on my street.
Funny thing though they were like 10 year old-ish gangsL
All of a sudden i just heard i pitched voises shouting outside my house::lol:.
If it is any consolation the utd fans beat the city fans arses with pieces of wood they got out of my next door neighbors skip.Puts the match into perspective.
We might of lost heavily on the pitch but our child hooligan's have restored some pride:hmm:
The futures bright . :joel:
Phatmann
25-10-2011, 19:29
Line-up for tonight: Amos, Jones, Vidic, Fryers, Fabio Da Silva, Valencia, Cleverley, Park, Diouf, Owen, Berbatov. Subs: De Gea, Vermijl, Michael Keane, Pogba, William Keane, Morrison, Cole
Great to see Cleverley fit again for us as he was starting to look a first team player at the beginning of the season. It's disappointing that Evans will only have a 2 game suspension after tonight but hopefully Vidic and Jones will remain fit for most of the rest of the season. I have no idea why Fergie bothers playing Amos in these games when Lindegaard really ought to be playing these games to build his confidence up. Amos is never going to be a Man U player and will probably end up at a League 1 side.
IronCity
25-10-2011, 20:39
my man Park with an assist - that guy is gold.
edit: glad to see Cleverley get notched with an assist as well.
I didn't see any of the game; how did everyone play?
Phatmann
26-10-2011, 00:08
I didn't see any of the game; how did everyone play?
Hard to say really since we were playing Aldershot. Park looked a little lost as he was playing centre mid for some reason. Fabio did well at full back and Valencia was good on the wing in front of him, although his crossing wasn't the greatest. Vidic started off looking worryingly rusty after he brought someone down when they got past him but he did alright after that as did Jones but they didn't have much to do. Cleverley was also a bit rusty but improved as the game went on. Berbatov looked good but there were times when you wish he had even the slightest bit of pace. He set one up and scored one though so can't complain too much. Owen didn't do a lot but managed to score a goal. Amos made a great save at the end. Fryers looked like he has been thrown in to the first team a little too early, needs some more reserve games before going out on loan. Michael Keane came on for a bit and looked ok, Morrison looked very bright and it's clear he is talented and Pogba was half decent when he came on.
Mame Biram Diouf also played, I think.
Moyesavelian
26-10-2011, 00:14
Did Morrison get on?
edit...nevermind
I've since seen the goals; AV should shoot from distance more often :laugh:
I'm glad Michael Keane got on. Did Will?
Phatmann
26-10-2011, 00:19
I've since seen the goals; AV should shoot from distance more often :laugh:
I'm glad Michael Keane got on. Did Will?
Nope. M. Keane, Pogba and Morrison came on.
AgentZero
26-10-2011, 01:28
Berbatov as a trequartista .. discuss.
Cesc Fabregas
26-10-2011, 04:50
I hope Sir Alex shares this opinion.
Billy Minof
26-10-2011, 19:11
Thread need a new poll?
Jonny Evans starts. :facepalm:
De Gea
Jones Vidic Evans Evra
Welbeck Cleverley Fletcher Park
Rooney Hernandez
Why is it that we occasionally play at Goodison Park at 12:00 on a Saturday?
Dragonfly
29-10-2011, 11:55
Evans again?
Ultimate777
29-10-2011, 12:30
We look so much more fluid with Cleverly in the team. Just need to get rid of wasters like fletcher and really should look at someone like fellaini who actually has some balls in the centre of the park.
Moyesavelian
29-10-2011, 12:51
It's worrying how easy Everton are getting shots on goal.
Ultimate777
29-10-2011, 12:56
It's worrying how easy Everton are getting shots on goal.
It's fletcher he's fucking useless in a positional sense in helping protect the back four. and Cleverly isn't a holding midfielder so it's easy to run through the middle of the park for Everton. Do you know what's happened to Carrick?
Since we took the lead we've just been complacent. Which is suprising because the whole team should be busting a gut to make up for the horror show which was last sunday.
IronCity
29-10-2011, 13:14
damn, I want to see Cleverley get back in the groove. snakebit.
Ultimate777
29-10-2011, 13:19
damn, I want to see Cleverley get back in the groove. snakebit.
Well you ain't going to see that any time soon I'm afraid, as he's gone off injured again. Looks like fergie's decision not to sign a midfielder of some kind is going to bite us on the arse.
Now we've reverted back to our negative style when we play away from home and dropped back into our own half, inviting pressure and looks as though everton will eventually equalise sadly.
Moyesavelian
29-10-2011, 13:26
At least we look a lot more solid.If we carried on playing as we did in the first half, an Everton goal was nearly certain.
Ultimate777
29-10-2011, 13:40
Last ditch defending.
IronCity
29-10-2011, 13:42
Well you ain't going to see that any time soon I'm afraid, as he's gone off injured again. Looks like fergie's decision not to sign a midfielder of some kind is going to bite us on the arse.
Now we've reverted back to our negative style when we play away from home and dropped back into our own half, inviting pressure and looks as though everton will eventually equalise sadly.
yeah, thats what made me make that comment.
what the deal with ferdinand - was the man city game so bad that saf just didn't play him today or is he with yet another muscle tweak.
Ultimate777
29-10-2011, 13:50
yeah, thats what made me make that comment.
what the deal with ferdinand - was the man city game so bad that saf just didn't pay him today or is he with yet another muscle tweak.
Yeah he's been dropped but not just for his performance but also his stupid remarks on twitter
Moyesavelian
29-10-2011, 13:56
Yeah he's been dropped but not just for his performance but also his stupid remarks on twitter
What remarks?
Ultimate777
29-10-2011, 14:05
What remarks?
His remarks gloating on how he was going to wembley to be tampa bay's captain for some meaningless coin toss, shortly after the match where he showed he couldn't give a fuck about the result.
Rio is washed up (free transfer to QPR please?).
Injury has blighted his career of late and his fascination with all things celebrity leave him looking a shadow of his former self.
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