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Gary G
07-12-2005, 22:18
It's good to see the mature element of PESInsight in full flow.

AgentZero
08-12-2005, 00:10
Fuck This...its a fucking disgrace!!!......im more pissed off at Benfica for wasting so much fuckin time....that git Beto..had a nice free ride to the byline didnt he ..stupid cunt......and the keeper...what a joke, a jostle for the ball ends up with him on his ass for 5 fuckin minutes!!!!......if it was anything benfica didnt win that game valiantly....a dishonorable way to win a game.....worse than rino gattuso after the Milans game agianst shalke...

o0oGedo0o
08-12-2005, 00:14
Is manchester targeting any players in Jan? I want to see some decent players coming in especially after roy keane leaving old trafford.

AgentZero
08-12-2005, 00:16
yeah....we were heavily linked with Balls.....but he chose madrid over manchester...
but some of SAF's targets for Jan are:
Aldo Duscher
Nigel De Jong
John Obi Mikel
Manuel Fernandez

primarily hollding mids

pier69
08-12-2005, 07:34
is obi mikel still want to play for man utd ? i thought he's crying to go to chelsea where the money is

Hunter
08-12-2005, 19:14
As far as I'm concerned, that cunt Obi Mikel can fuck off and should never step foot in Manchester again. Why do so many people want him at the club, he clearly wouldn't dedicate 100% to us. So if he isn't going to pull his weight I wouldn't buy him for £1m.

But as far as the match went yesterday I was ashamed to be a United fan, we showed no enthusiasm what so ever. It was digusting, professional footballers getting paid amounts we could only dream for and they do fuck all. The referee seemed to be favouring anyone who appealed. And there fans were nothing but cunts throughout the game, it got so annoying hearing them whistle and boo for the full 90 minutes. I even pressed Mute at one point it got so irritating. There time-wasting was taken to a new level last night, I have never seen anything like it. There were initially 4 added minutes yet roughly 3 of them were wasted by Benfica very smartly. However the referee only added and extra 40 seconds on which I was incredibly pissed off about.

But at the end of the day it was mainly our fault, we just could not be arsed. And I feel sorry for all the fans who travelled only to watch such tripe.

wallpaper_01
08-12-2005, 19:22
That was useless, looks like we r gona go down hill from now on, we've lost our sponsor our players will leave and no one good will wana come now!

Lorenzinho
08-12-2005, 19:24
Fuck This...its a fucking disgrace!!!......im more pissed off at Benfica for wasting so much fuckin time....that git Beto..had a nice free ride to the byline didnt he ..stupid cunt......and the keeper...what a joke, a jostle for the ball ends up with him on his ass for 5 fuckin minutes!!!!......if it was anything benfica didnt win that game valiantly....a dishonorable way to win a game.....worse than rino gattuso after the Milans game agianst shalke...

Ach, shut up, please! First off, about Beto. Are you saying you would shout and scream at Wayne Rooney if Man U were in Benfica's position? Of course you wouldn't, and as far as i'm aware there is no rule against that type of "timewasting" and if there is, it's not enforced very much, is it?

Stop being bitter. You wouldn't be in that position if your players had even bothered for the previous 5 games.

Miggy
08-12-2005, 19:26
Shit happens, Barça were in a simular situation a few years ago, then we got a new president, new coach and well RONALDINHO. So who knows but I'm sure United will bounce back eventually.

Lorenzinho
08-12-2005, 19:30
Barça were in a simular situation a few years ago, then we got a new president, new coach and well RONALDINHO.

Haha. How ironic it is that Barcelona are the ones that beat Man United to Ronaldinho?

Clyde Frog
08-12-2005, 20:25
I don't believe in the diving, Dado Prso tried it on a few occasions and it's not right, gives the club a bad name, however, timewasting may be a pain in the ass but they can do it and if my team where 2-1 up against one of the top clubs in europe, I would expect them to time waste but not dive.

Phatmann
09-12-2005, 14:23
Appalling result, but to be fair they were probably better than us. How many times did we really test their keeper? maybe once in total. We seem afraid to take any risks when in the oppositions half. There were many times when we had the ball on the edge of the area where I thought we could have had a shot, but instead played it out wide, crossed it in and their defenders headed it out easy. Absolutely gutted :(

Ronaldo7
09-12-2005, 15:54
That was easily the most disgraceful performance I have ever seen and one of the very few times i have felt embarresed by my team. Although I dont agree with it, Fergies head will be called for now and unless he manages to cement his position by bringing at least 1 trophy (not the Carling Cup) by the end of the season he will be forced out by the Glazers, who's first move when they took over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers was to get rid of the popular coach. So here is the question we have been dreading...

Who can replace Sir Alex Ferguson?

Singh
09-12-2005, 16:20
Gus Hiddink.

http://www.soccernet.com/images/european/holland/hiddink_brianbahr_g.jpg

Estill
09-12-2005, 16:52
Fabio Capello or Martin O'Neill are the only two I would be happy about.

ps2gtavc
09-12-2005, 16:55
i want Gus

Guillermo
09-12-2005, 17:04
Roy Keane.;)

Top Gun
09-12-2005, 17:06
Roy Keane would be allrite if he had some experience but I think that Martin O'Neill would be the best.

deftones5
09-12-2005, 17:24
i'd like cappello and he says he wants to manage in england some day

Phatmann
09-12-2005, 17:52
Definitely not O'Neill, maybe Hiddink or Capello though.

Akineye
09-12-2005, 18:31
Fookin' disgraceful result.

There was always an accusation thrown at us as United fans - and that was we felt we had a 'devine right' to win things. It may have been appropriate for some, but to the majority of match going fans it was an unfair criticism. The tag however, tonight at least, is appropriate - but not against the fans but the team.

All throughout the group we played with no urgency as though we were just waiting for the knock-out stages to begin. On Wednesday night the players had a chance to redemm themselves and they failed miserably. They were second best to a Benfica side who looked amazed that they actually stood a chance of qualifying past the group stages. And we got exactly what we deserved, as did Benfica.

We'll now have to suffer the consiquences: no TV revenue from the Champions League and realistically this may result in the selling of a Rooney, Ruud, Rio on Ronaldo to pay back Glazer's enormous debts. Also, since it seems to me at least, fairly obvious that the Wizard can no longer motivate players, next season may also see a new face in the dugout.

Frankly, Hiddink or Cappello would be welcomed with open arms by me.

Usul
09-12-2005, 22:11
I hear Vanderlei Luxemburgo is looking for a job...

Papa Lazarou
09-12-2005, 22:26
I don't even want to consider gettin rid of SAF at this stage as he has a plan for the team and im sure he knows what he's doing.

Phatmann
09-12-2005, 23:08
I don't even want to consider gettin rid of SAF at this stage as he has a plan for the team and im sure he knows what he's doing.
I know, but I can't really see him lasting past the end of next season.

In other news we're after a left back from Fiorentina called Manuel Pasqual. Anyone seen this guy play at all? I haven't heard of him really myself.

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=332943&CPID=21&clid=&lid=&title=United+watch+Italian+lef t+back

Jonny2J
09-12-2005, 23:11
I don't even want to consider gettin rid of SAF at this stage as he has a plan for the team and im sure he knows what he's doing.his plan should be to get rid of the over-paid, overrated, under performing playboys like Richardson, O'Shea, Ferdinand

Papa Lazarou
09-12-2005, 23:29
his plan should be to get rid of the over-paid, overrated, under performing playboys like Richardson, O'Shea, Ferdinand
whats wrong with Richardson? He's a great player who should be played alot more. As for O'Shea he's a good squad player who although never lived up to his early potential is still pretty good. And why should we get rid of Ferdinand who is our best defender by a mile

I say play Wes Brown alot more than Silvestre who is startin to look shaky

Jonny2J
09-12-2005, 23:33
whats wrong with Richardson? He's a great player who should be played alot more. As for O'Shea he's a good squad player who although never lived up to his early potential is still pretty good. And why should we get rid of Ferdinand who is our best defender by a mile

I say play Wes Brown alot more than Silvestre who is startin to look shakyi've been a big advocate of Wes Brown for a long time, before all of the injuries he looked a real class act, when he first came on the scene i thought he was the best young defender in the country and i include Rio in that... just hope he can finally stay clear of injury

and Richardson is not great far from it as far as i'm concerned, just a flash cunt basically, O'Shea had 6 good months and like many others is just happy to take the cash... i honestly can't remember him making one correct pass the othernight, he was absysmal

Keyser Soze
09-12-2005, 23:54
i've been a big advocate of Wes Brown for a long time, before all of the injuries he looked a real class act, when he first came on the scene i thought he was the best young defender in the country and i include Rio in that... just hope he can finally stay clear of injury

and Richardson is not great far from it as far as i'm concerned, just a flash cunt basically, O'Shea had 6 good months and like many others is just happy to take the cash... i honestly can't remember him making one correct pass the othernight, he was absysmal
I think Richardson and O'Shea would be good players in an average Premiership team, United can do better than them although they are decent squad player, I suppose.

At one point, when Wes Brown was coming onto the scene he was dubbed the new Bobby Moore. :laugh:

Jonny2J
09-12-2005, 23:55
I think Richardson and O'Shea would be good players in an average Premiership team, United can do better than them although they are decent squad player, I suppose.

At one point, when Wes Brown was coming onto the scene he was dubbed the new Bobby Moore. :laugh:so was Rio Ferdinand which is even more laughable

Ronaldo7
10-12-2005, 00:41
so was Rio Ferdinand which is even more laughable

And Jonathan Woodgate who had what, 2-3 good years in a team where he was the best of a poor bunch and has made little to no impact at a Real team suffering with poor defenders is a better prospect?

Barring the Benfica performance Rio has looked alot more solid at the back and was probably the best defender at the last world cup. and as for Wes, he is a squad player now and will always be.

Jonny2J
10-12-2005, 00:44
And Jonathan Woodgate who had what, 2-3 good years in a team where he was the best of a poor bunch and has made little to no impact at a Real team suffering with poor defenders is a better prospect?

Barring the Benfica performance Rio has looked alot more solid at the back and was probably the best defender at the last world cup. and as for Wes, he is a squad player now and will always be.so you admit he was better than Rio then? and i never brought Woody into this argument, he hasn't kicked a ball in anger for about a month and played just a handful of game sunshine... just more insecurities from Man Utd fans

Ronaldo7
10-12-2005, 00:56
I was just sayin' that you can say Rio has not lived up to the expectations put on him but he is only 26, and as a centre-back has alot more time in which he will prove himself to be one of the best IMO. And the Woodgate thing was an obvious stab due to your large picture of him and previous Avatar of him. And Jonny is in your name. And you support Newcastle. And you do go on about him abit.

GuyP
10-12-2005, 00:58
Little to no impact? Once he settled in he got two MOM's in a row! How would Rio act if he missed a season and a half and got thrust into Real Madrid team who have a poor defence to start with.

Ronaldo7
10-12-2005, 01:01
Yeah its not as if spent time out from a team and then came back and instatly made it look more solid is it.

..... oh wait.

Jonny2J
10-12-2005, 01:08
I was just sayin' that you can say Rio has not lived up to the expectations put on him but he is only 26, and as a centre-back has alot more time in which he will prove himself to be one of the best IMO. And the Woodgate thing was an obvious stab due to your large picture of him and previous Avatar of him. And Jonny is in your name. And you support Newcastle. And you do go on about him abit.but i just gave my opinion on Ferdinand mate... there's no need for this "my dad is harder than your dad bullshit" i've just had it for years with the overhyping of Rio, ask anyone i'm no bandwagon jumper i've stated my case on this long before the media got on his back, i just don't like his attitude off the pitch and on it when i always feel nervous whenever he has the ball because you dunno what's going to happen next, i'd rather have my centre half like Tony Adams style anyday of the week and minimize the risk

it would be like you mentioning say for example Luque to me as yes he has had a poor start but i know will come good, and me for no apparant reason attacking Ronaldo

Ronaldo7
10-12-2005, 01:19
]it would be like you mentioning say for example Luque to me as yes he has had a poor start but i know will come good[/B], and me for no apparant reason attacking Ronaldo

I feel the same way about Rio in say 2-3 years time when I feel he will probably be the best in the Premiership and one of the best in the world. He has only been here for 3 years and, providing he stays, Wes Brown hs had alot longer to prove himself and has not, where as I feel Rio still has some way to go. 26 is young for a centre-back. And as for the "my dad is harder than your dad" thing, please, its not as if I am some 15 year old who has been supporting united for 2 years and posts things like "LOL YOUZE IS SHIT!!!!11!!! NEWCASLE SMELL!" I just was making the point that Rio still has a long career left and can still prove himself to be one of the best

Jonny2J
10-12-2005, 01:22
I feel the same way about Rio in say 2-3 years time when I feel he will probably be the best in the Premiership and one of the best in the world. He has only been here for 3 years and, providing he stays, Wes Brown hs had alot longer to prove himself and has not, where as I feel Rio still has some way to go. 26 is young for a centre-back. And as for the "my dad is harder than your dad" thing, please, its not as if I am some 15 year old who has been supporting united for 2 years and posts things like "LOL YOUZE IS SHIT!!!!11!!! NEWCASLE SMELL!" I just was making the point that Rio still has a long career left and can still prove himself to be one of the besti'm not being funny because he's at Man Yoo or out but Rio at Leeds to me seemed on a whole different level to what he is now, i dunno why though, at Leeds he did never fail to impress me... thought at West Ham he was dodgy but had potential, looked class at Leeds, and not the same level since then..... over-confidence/cockyness whatever you call it...

and by the way im called Jonny as it's my nickname in real life;)

Ronaldo7
10-12-2005, 01:27
and by the way im called Jonny as it's my nickname in real life;)

I'll let you off with that one then :)

I'll tell you what we will come back to this in 2-3 years time and if Rio has not lived up to my expectations i will except a forfit of some kind. Deal?

GuyP
10-12-2005, 01:33
Yeah its not as if spent time out from a team and then came back and instatly made it look more solid is it.

..... oh wait.

half the time of woody.

Ronaldo7
10-12-2005, 01:34
more actually, 18 months he was out for wasn't it?, and we have moved on. I am now excepting forfits if Rio fails to live up to my expectations. Go on, do your worst.

Jonny2J
10-12-2005, 01:38
my theory why Man Utd's defence too has been performing so poorly of late is alot to do with Heinze being out, i thought he was an unsung hero to be honest outside of Old Trafford, and his physical presence (as you have too many defenders who just fanny about instead of getting stuck in) has been sorely missed, as a crunching tackle is all that can be needed to inspire team mates... although for a so-called hardman ive lost a bit of respect toward him as the last two seasons at SJP he has moaned constantly once Shearer got stuck in at him

Ronaldo7
10-12-2005, 01:41
They sold more Heinze shirts at the Cup Final than Rooney shirts you know? He was easily our best player last year and was probably the one player who deserved to be in the Final more than any other.

Jonny2J
10-12-2005, 01:44
They sold more Heinze shirts at the Cup Final than Rooney shirts you know? He was easily our best player last year and was probably the one player who deserved to be in the Final more than any other.i'm not surprised to be honest, he seems to be quite a cult figure at Old Trafford, i mean he must be if English fans will scream "Argentina" without followed by are a cheating bunch of wankers

Ronaldo7
10-12-2005, 01:48
i'm not surprised to be honest, he seems to be quite a cult figure at Old Trafford, i mean he must be if English fans will scream "Argentina" without followed by are a cheating bunch of wankers

There were rumours that we might be buying Bridge in Jan to cover untill he gets back. Big mistake if you ask me, he is a good solid player with a bit of pace as well, but when Gabby comes back he will be in the same position he is now at Chelsea, and will probably complain untill he ends up back at Southampton.

EDIT- Just realised im on the computer at 1:49 in the morning and not looking at porn! this is a new record for me!

Jonny2J
10-12-2005, 01:51
There were rumours that we might be buying Bridge in Jan to cover untill he gets back. Big mistake if you ask me, he is a good solid player with a bit of pace as well, but when Gabby comes back he will be in the same position he is now at Chelsea, and will probably complain ends up back at Southampton.

EDIT- Just realised im on the computer at 1:49 in the morning and not looking at porn! this is a new record for me!we're after him too, we nearly got him on loan in the summer apparantly

Ronaldo7
10-12-2005, 01:55
And instead you got Babayaro.... God, Souness really doesnt know what he is doing does he?

Im going to bed now cos its fucking late.

Akineye
10-12-2005, 12:29
i'm not surprised to be honest, he seems to be quite a cult figure at Old Trafford, i mean he must be if English fans will scream "Argentina" without followed by are a cheating bunch of wankers

The reason why we chant 'Argentina' is only about 40% down to Heinze.

As for this United defence talk? Rio is world-class. One of only three world-class players we currently have. Of COURSE he's a cunt off the pitch, a prostitute, and being on a million pounds a week and everything is a ridiculous salary, but it's Glazer's money he's being paid with now, so pay him whatever he fookin' wants.

Wesley is an exceptional centre-back and is miles ahead of Silvestre in terms of defensive competence. After Rio he's the best centre-back at the club by far.

And aye, Heinze is a good left-back. Maybe not as good as a lot of United fans are making him out to be, but he's a solid defender who'll always give 110%.

AgentZero
10-12-2005, 12:38
thats all we need to perform a 110% from eevryone...lately i have not been seeing many lollypops from ronaldo..goals from ruud...inch perfect tackles from smith ....Gabby was an inspiration to the team..i was pretty gutted seeing him limp around in Spain

Ronaldo_is_fat
10-12-2005, 14:21
Cristiano is no doubt a good player but he didn't conformed his end product to the club yet. Last game against Benfica showed that he knew not of how to play like a team.

Don't start with Smith, he's a joke. All he does is tackle, tackle and tackle knows nothing or whatsoever of how to control the tempo and posession keeping. After that he'll make a scary looking face, him=joke.

GuyP
10-12-2005, 23:59
Cristiano is no doubt a good player but he didn't conformed his end product to the club yet. Last game against Benfica showed that he knew not of how to play like a team.

Don't start with Smith, he's a joke. All he does is tackle, tackle and tackle knows nothing or whatsoever of how to control the tempo and posession keeping. After that he'll make a scary looking face, him=joke.

I fully disagree...he can finish well (eg. beginning of last season) and i would welcome him to Newcastle...very soon before he is wrecked and turned into a defensive midfielder.

GuyP
11-12-2005, 00:43
click here (http://forum.pesinsight.com/showthread.php?t=4962&page=165)

???

AgentZero
11-12-2005, 00:54
im sorry ......i was testin something a forgot to delete
anywho...by how many goals will we beat everton by?

GuyP
11-12-2005, 01:06
1...2-1 in my opinion...Beattie, Van Nistelmullet and Scholes.

btw...how did you put the html url link there?

Ronaldo_is_fat
11-12-2005, 01:42
I didn't mentioned about his finishing but his ability in the role of being a midfield mate, that's before he was converted into the DMF position.

Keyser Soze
11-12-2005, 01:44
btw...how did you put the html url link there?
Don't double post. ;)

URL:

{url=www.chelseafc.com}Click Here{/url}

Replace the { with [ and it becomes:

Click Here (www.chelseafc.com)

GuyP
11-12-2005, 02:04
I didn't mentioned about his finishing but his ability in the role of being a midfield mate, that's before he was converted into the DMF position.

Yeah...this really annoys me...he had a good future.

executioner
11-12-2005, 16:10
bolocks, everton score.

Guillermo
11-12-2005, 16:15
What the fook, behind again.

executioner
11-12-2005, 16:30
giggsy scores. 1-1

yusuf eeli
11-12-2005, 16:33
I think United might win 5-1 with Saha getting an hat-trick. No more goals in the first half for now, but United will get 4 all in the second.

dee-dee
11-12-2005, 16:50
I think United might win 5-1 with Saha getting an hat-trick. No more goals in the first half for now, but United will get 4 all in the second.

doubt it
but i reckon we still will win comfortably
saha looks sharp again
hope we see ronaldo come on later in the game

Jonny2J
11-12-2005, 16:53
doubt it
but i reckon we still will win comfortably
saha looks sharp again
hope we see ronaldo come on later in the gameand perform to his shocking standards of lately

dee-dee
11-12-2005, 16:55
and perform to his shocking standards of lately

yes, i know he has played poor this season but the longer we don't play him, the lower his confidence will drop, especially after his shit performance in lisbon

dee-dee
11-12-2005, 17:23
can see park coming off for ronaldo soon
EDIT- just came on
EDIT- van der sar just saved our bacon
EDIT- final score 1-1
disappointing

Papa Lazarou
11-12-2005, 18:52
Another dissapointing result and i just can't figure out whats missing?? except for Ole naturally!!

vanNistelrooy
11-12-2005, 18:57
You Are My Solskjaer!

dee-dee
11-12-2005, 19:09
Maybe Rossi will play an important role this season?

Hunter
11-12-2005, 19:23
Maybe Rossi will play an important role this season?

Can't see it myself mate, maybe next season.

Alan Smith was lazy today, he just didn't seem too bothered. I mean there were flashes, but a lot of the time he was walking around the pitch kicking people and arguing. Rooney did well as usual, but I don't want to see him one of the only players back at times, from set-pieces and corners etc. hes not damaging when in our own half. Giggs did very well I thought and set a good example, he played sensibly and used his footballing mind. Gary Neville was good to watch with his good over-lapping etc. although he does get annoying when he argues every 5 minutes. I thought Ronaldo was appalling, his crosses were absolutely diabolical, but you can't expect much else can you. He always seems to go for power rather than accuracy and that is definetely not the way to go about it when putting a ball into the box. Richardson did well I thought but bottled a few 50-50's. Saha was a joy to watch with his pace, and he seemed to fit in well with todays play. But I think the deciding factor was Ruud Van Nistelrooy, him missing played a major part in the draw. You could tell from watching it that we needed someone deadly inside the box, a poacher, someone with a natural eagle eye for goal. We resorted to shooting from outside of the box a lot of the time, and most were poor attempts.

Ah well, just not our day but we have another match in a couple of days against Wigan. Must get prepared for that as they are stumbling and we need to capatalise on that.

executioner
11-12-2005, 19:33
that was bolocks.
we had about 100 crosses and nobody got a decent header in.

AgentZero
12-12-2005, 01:16
lowly..everton..*shakes head in dispair*

Phatmann
12-12-2005, 14:29
Absolutely gutted. I went to the match yesterday (just got back) and the second half was awful. Saha needs to be sold asap, because he is useless off the ball, he cannot make a decent run! And ince again we seemed frightened to have a shot from outside of the box and were instead opting for a pass out wide and a crap cross into the box for players who aren't that great at headers.

In my opinion Giggs was the best player for us overall as he was looking good terrorising defenders and making important tackles to help out richardson. However, our defence was way too shaky and got caught out a few times, which is very worrying. I thought Scholes had another good game and Smith was ok but rather uncharacteristically, Park didn't look very energetic.

This result leaves me very worried for Wednesdays match :unsure:

Phatmann
13-12-2005, 08:59
http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=284734&itype=466&icategoryid=120

Some people may not rate him that highly, but I reckon we could've done with him at left back at the moment as we have had no luck whatsoever with Richardson and O'Shea.

AgentZero
13-12-2005, 10:06
the question remains?...why did we sell phil...he was a good utility squad player

Mambo
13-12-2005, 11:52
Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but why doesn't SAF try Silvestre back at left back and play Brown in the middle with Rio. I'm pretty sure this would be a far more stable defence. This constant changing is doing no good.

I know Silvestre through his toys out the pram when he decided he was a centre back and not a full back but he did a good job there, got a few assists and is good on the overlap.

AgentZero
14-12-2005, 01:34
ummmhas anyone mentione dwe have landed Nigel De Jong from Ajax?????? 1 million quid....pretty cheap for a player like him

Phatmann
14-12-2005, 11:40
ummmhas anyone mentione dwe have landed Nigel De Jong from Ajax?????? 1 million quid....pretty cheap for a player like him
Since when?:mellow:

ps2gtavc
14-12-2005, 11:43
Saw that in the paper 2 days ago, no big fanfare made about it though,
seems a decent signing for that price. We wont be getting him until Jan though cause of the transfer window.

Mambo
14-12-2005, 12:06
We haven't signed him yet, they were rumours. If we did, the transfer would only be £1million because he is out of contract in the Summer so Ajax want anything they can for him. I don't believe until the player has signed on the dotted line...

Papa Lazarou
14-12-2005, 19:08
yeh i wouldnt beleive it just yet. Papers talk bollocks really

Cali
14-12-2005, 20:56
at minute man u 2-0 wigan(rio hahah true i swear,rooney)half time:D

dee-dee
14-12-2005, 20:58
Rooney's goal was a peach. He looked like he had lost posession but he got up, took it past 2 players and fired home.

vanNistelrooy
14-12-2005, 20:59
Unlucky Pollit. He's having a really good game.

AgentZero
14-12-2005, 20:59
Great!!!.....i actually saw the Nigel DE Jong thing at the unite dsite.....why would they fabricate this???....the last time they did was that we signed ronaldinho and arjen robben:crymore: but they were big names opposed to no fanfare Nigel

Cali
14-12-2005, 21:15
3-0 rooney:D

Cali
14-12-2005, 21:50
4-0 ruud(pen)

Guillermo
15-12-2005, 08:07
Great match last night, real confidence booster. I thought we'd get 1-0 at the most.

Phatmann
15-12-2005, 11:56
Brown, G.Neville, Scholes and Giggs were all excellent yesterday. Rooney and Ruud played well as usual, but Fletcher and O'Shea both looked a bit dodgy at times. Overall though it was a good performance and we should beat Villa on Saturday, let's hope.

AgentZero
15-12-2005, 12:04
anyone heard...Fergie will be a Gunners fan for the weekend only..are they playing chelski???

Phatmann
15-12-2005, 14:58
anyone heard...Fergie will be a Gunners fan for the weekend only..are they playing chelski???
Yep, Arsenal v Chelsea on Sunday. Not sure who I want to win really.

pokey
15-12-2005, 17:52
ummm us? for the sake of your hope for the title...

Guillermo
15-12-2005, 18:02
I hope for a draw really. Means they both drop a couple of points.

Phatmann
15-12-2005, 18:24
I hope for a draw really. Means they both drop a couple of points.
I'll probably hope for the same, a 0-0 draw would be good.

djmoz1000
15-12-2005, 19:05
united = worst and most boastful team EVER

Guillermo
15-12-2005, 19:09
What the hell are you talking about?

vanNistelrooy
15-12-2005, 19:14
united = worst and most boastful team EVER

villa = hammered by doncaster

stfu

It's got to be an Arsenal win for me. We need Chelsea to drop points, not just A point.

Papa Lazarou
15-12-2005, 21:17
Great result for united last nite an a great performance

oh yeh an Keane has signed for Celtic so good luck to him an celtic WILL win the league now

AgentZero
15-12-2005, 21:18
rooneys finally broken his drougth

dee-dee
15-12-2005, 21:19
Hope it is a draw as we don't want Arsenal to gain more points.

dee-dee
15-12-2005, 21:19
Rooney's second goal was sublime. He truly is amazing.

AgentZero
15-12-2005, 21:19
stuff that arsenal are to far behind to cathc up we need chelsea to slow down

dee-dee
15-12-2005, 21:35
I suppose. Either way, all we can do is hope that the match goes the way we want it to and we get on with the job of beating Villa.

JustMe
15-12-2005, 22:32
Hi guys.

Made this fantasy Manchester United home kit - hope you like it;) .
I'm not sure about the sponsor, but I've heard about IBM and O2, so it's either this one:
http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/1020/manutdhome2fw.png (http://imageshack.us)

Or this one:
http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/1241/manutd2home2dd.png (http://imageshack.us)

Alternative version:
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/1971/manutd3home7xy.png (http://imageshack.us)

Cheers and enjoy

To check out more fantasy kits that I've posted in this forum (just in case:rolleyes: ):
http://forum.pesinsight.com/showthread.php?t=31950

Phatmann
16-12-2005, 09:23
I don't like the o2 ones.

I've realised what I hope for in the Arsenal v Chelsea match- some injuries (Lampard? Henry?) :) , our only chance of catching Chelsea really is if they have some key players injured.

Stella Artois
16-12-2005, 09:26
You won't catch them because you're not good enough.

Congratulations on beating Wigan, who've lost their last 5 in a row, and have slipped from 2nd to 8th. A truly amazing result!

Top Gun
17-12-2005, 14:05
2-0 up against Aston Villa with about 60 mins gone. Goals from Rooney and Van Nistelrooy.

dee-dee
17-12-2005, 14:08
You won't catch them because you're not good enough.

Congratulations on beating Wigan, who've lost their last 5 in a row, and have slipped from 2nd to 8th. A truly amazing result!

I know what you mean. Arsenal will probably fall even further behind them on Sunday as you're not as good as us this season.

Top Gun
17-12-2005, 14:13
Angel just hit the crossbar for Villa but it is still 2-0 to United.

dee-dee
17-12-2005, 14:15
Are you watching the match on Prem Plus because I am trying to listen to it on BBC.co.uk but it not working.

Top Gun
17-12-2005, 14:39
Match finished now. 2-0 finish, goals from Rooney and Ruud.

Keyser Soze
17-12-2005, 14:43
Another poor performance from C.Ronaldo, another great performance from Rooney.

Top Gun
17-12-2005, 14:47
Another poor performance from C.Ronaldo, another great performance from Rooney.

Quite true but Park had a really good game after a poor performance on Wednesday.

executioner
17-12-2005, 15:53
good result today. better result against wigan though.

we really need to give ronaldo a good clip round the ear, he's annoying all the fans and the management. he's just wastefull now, i'd have no problem selling him.

btw, anyone got clips of todays goals?

Keyser Soze
17-12-2005, 15:55
we really need to give ronaldo a good clip round the ear, he's annoying all the fans and the management. he's just wastefull now, i'd have no problem selling him
:rolleyes: Fucking hell, talk about fickle.

vanNistelrooy
17-12-2005, 16:01
Another poor performance from C.Ronaldo, another great performance from Rooney.

He was on for about 30 minutes and played conservative as we wanted to play keep ball!? I'd rather he did that, then lose the ball when trying to skin 4 players and us going on to conceed!

Not a bad cross at the end though, just a shame Ruud couldn't do the easiest part of the whole move and header it in!

Top Gun
17-12-2005, 16:06
good result today. better result against wigan though.

we really need to give ronaldo a good clip round the ear, he's annoying all the fans and the management. he's just wastefull now, i'd have no problem selling him.

btw, anyone got clips of todays goals?

I can't believe that you would sell Ronaldo, him and Rooney are the main young players to build with for the future.

o0oGedo0o
17-12-2005, 17:58
sorry ruud i really like you as a player but that's really gay http://www.premierleague.com/en/images/news_premier_league/ruudfletcher184.jpg

Papa Lazarou
17-12-2005, 21:20
good result today and it's great that we're gettin a run of results together now.

erm...thats all i need to say

Cali
17-12-2005, 21:24
great win today i honustly hope arsenal win tomoz as if they do we will be nearer to the premiership trophy:Dbut then arsenal lose forever again;)

vanNistelrooy
17-12-2005, 23:58
Awesome effort from Ruud (the flick up and overhead), what a goal that would have been!

Top Gun
17-12-2005, 23:59
Rooney had a good Overheadkick attempt aswell, that was probably even better as it was first time whereas Ruud flicked it up.

woodsy
18-12-2005, 00:14
has anyone got clips of todays goals ?

Lord Shrimpeh
18-12-2005, 00:28
has anyone got clips of todays goals ?

They should be on http://latestgoals.net/games.php?league=23 in a few days. That's the only site I know which does them.

AgentZero
18-12-2005, 09:20
hooray...all we need now is for arsenal not to choke against the West Russia Blue

dee-dee
18-12-2005, 10:55
good result today. better result against wigan though.

we really need to give ronaldo a good clip round the ear, he's annoying all the fans and the management. he's just wastefull now, i'd have no problem selling him.

btw, anyone got clips of todays goals?

Sell Ronaldo? That is why you are not Sir Alex Ferguson.

o0oGedo0o
18-12-2005, 11:52
I've just seen on Al-Jazeera sports channel that Abramovic (sp?) is willing to pay lots of money to get Henry, shit if they got him they'll be invincible. I always thought that their forwards were their worst line.

dee-dee
18-12-2005, 11:57
Chelsea would be invincible if they had Rooney, not Henry. Henry doesn't turn up for the big matches.

o0oGedo0o
18-12-2005, 12:00
But he's one of the best forwards around the world, if he's got better assistance from: Lampard, Duff, Joe cole, Wright Phillips and Robben things will change. On the other hand I would hate see rooney go to any team, cause he's a united player.

dee-dee
18-12-2005, 12:07
Rooney, in my opinion is the best in the world at what he does. (Awaiting comments) He is United's best chance of winning the league this year.

o0oGedo0o
18-12-2005, 12:10
Well he's young and has proven himself to be England's hope for a new star. So I would say he's too good if not the best.

Phatmann
20-12-2005, 17:29
Anyone catch the reserves match against Bolton the other night (5-0), we have some great prospects for the future there. Neumayr, Eckersley, Ebanks-Blake (scored a hat-trick), Rossi, Pique, Martin all played well, and also Solskjaer played well and played 77 minutes too :) . Also Campo got sent off for headbutting one of our players (think it was neumayr) :laugh:

Anyways, I hope to see some of these playing tonight, especially Eckersley as I believe he is better than Richardson and O'Shea at the moment at left back and he is very good at getting down the line and producing decent crosses, whereas Richardson and O'Shea are looking a bit shaky going down the line.

Papa Lazarou
20-12-2005, 17:35
Im glad Ole got 77mins an Ebanks-Blake looks a great prospect. We have so much attacking talent coming throught at the mometn an some of our defenders are pretty good too. It's just debateable if we have any good midfielders coming through (apart from Jones who will be 1st teamer next season for sure)

Phatmann
20-12-2005, 17:41
Agree with you there, David Jones will surely be playing a good deal of first team matches next season, and what I'm hoping for either in the January or the summer transfer window is that Saha and Richardson are sold. Richardson has improved over the last season, but I still think that player like Eckersley would be a lot better at the left back position and Lee Martin at left wing is a fantastic prospect too who I think isn't too far off first team action too.

Akineye
20-12-2005, 19:30
2-1 United.

Ronaldo and Saha....

Oh, and I can't be fooked with Carling Cup matches, especially not as it would mean two trips to Birmingham within four days.

Cali
20-12-2005, 19:30
wicked:)we should win easily;)

executioner
20-12-2005, 21:50
3-1 win. two great goals from saha and a first united goal from park. decent game all-round, and now into the final four.

AgentZero
20-12-2005, 22:01
we'll defo win the milk cup....yay silverware:rolleyes:

dee-dee
20-12-2005, 22:44
Saha showed sparks of brilliance tonight. His second goal was sublime.

dirda
22-12-2005, 18:20
Sell Ronaldo? That is why you are not Sir Alex Ferguson.

True! C. Ronaldo got lot of potentials... But i think his main problem is that is not much focused in the game... juz tryinna give his best to get the ball forward. if he improves in his gameplay, he will be the next ronaldinho for the next few years... Honestly guys, i know that Rooney is good but i'd rather see Ronaldo play.

Papa Lazarou
22-12-2005, 20:15
Well we have Blackburn in the cup semi-final so i think we can pretty much book our place in the final. Im gonna say Wigan will beat Arsenal so we'll meet them in the final

accessgranted
22-12-2005, 23:40
I hope that was sarcastic.

Oh, and what the **** was that? It's no wonder any team with an ounce of pride is knocking the **** out of them.

gadfly
23-12-2005, 03:09
Park Ji Sung is never talked about, and I don't know why. I'd love to see him at Anfield if you filthy mancks don't want him.

EDIT: Merry Christmas gentlemen.

Papa Lazarou
23-12-2005, 20:29
hey! Park is ours an he's a great player, i admit i had my resevations about him when he signed but he gives something different to the team an should play more

Oh an SOLKSJAER may be back on the bench over the xmas period!!

Mambo
23-12-2005, 21:57
United closing in on Vidic


Spartak Moscow chief executive Sergei Shavlo is resigned to losing defender Nemanja Vidic - and admits Manchester United are favourites to sign him.

United and Spartak reportedly held talks on Monday in London but failed to agree a fee for the 24-year-old Serbia & Montenegro international.

Shavlo told Russian newspaper Sport-Express: "We were trying to retain Vidic in the squad but he has told me straight that he will leave Spartak.

"The only question is to which club will he move? Initially he was going to join Fiorentina but now he is inclined to accept the Manchester United offer.

"We continue to have talks concerning the transfer fee."



Anyone know anything about this guy?

AgentZero
23-12-2005, 22:21
nup...hence spartak moscow....
if you were to pick the team and one of the following came up who would you chose

Park/Fletcher in CM replacing scholes
Ronaldo/Richardson in The Left Wing Replacing Giggs
Fletcher/Solksjaer RM replacing Ronaldo
Saha/Ronaldo replacing Rooney
Pique/Beardsley replacing O'Gay in the CB
Pique/O'Gay replacing M.Silvestre
Rossi/ROoney replacing Ruud?

well this should be interesting

Papa Lazarou
23-12-2005, 22:28
Fletcher in CM replacing scholes
Ronaldoin The Left Wing Replacing Giggs
Solksjaer RM replacing Ronaldo
Saha replacing Rooney
Piquereplacing O'Gay in the CB
Pique replacing M.Silvestre
Rooney replacing Ruud?

AgentZero
23-12-2005, 22:34
yeah thought so....
i dunno i think i would prefer park over fletcher in scholesy creative roles...hes more active than dazz

Top Gun
23-12-2005, 22:36
In my opinion I think that our best centre back partnership is Brown and Ferdinand. Silvestre makes too many mistakes and is better at LB so I would like to see Fergie try the other two out a bit more.

AgentZero
23-12-2005, 22:42
O forgot to mention
went to a x-mas party last night and had a really good football discussion going with some of the older party-goers and..ive been told that United have a link with Shevchenko.....hmmm coul b ejust anoteh rtabloid tripe but....we were linked with him 3 seasons ago and hes out of contarct this summer and With Milan having Vieri, Super Pippo, Gilardino and Kaka' i think it could be plausible...any thoughts?

Top Gun
23-12-2005, 22:45
O forgot to mention
went to a x-mas party last night and had a really good football discussion going with some of the older party-goers and..ive been told that United have a link with Shevchenko.....hmmm coul b ejust anoteh rtabloid tripe but....we were linked with him 3 seasons ago and hes out of contarct this summer and With Milan having Vieri, Super Pippo, Gilardino and Kaka' i think it could be plausible...any thoughts?

I can find that sort of believable as AC Milan are not having such a good time of late and the team isn't getting much youth in it.

But saying that we aren't really having a good time so it could be possible but I wouldn't bet on it.

paraic64
23-12-2005, 22:47
no way dud shev wudnt join yee his goin 2 leeds on a five year loan.

AgentZero
23-12-2005, 22:48
i think we're getting most of our kiddies....and they're starting to find their feet...I Pray that ronaldo will play like he did last season..this season hes been blank

Top Gun
23-12-2005, 22:48
Do you know when David Jones loan finishes?

paraic64
23-12-2005, 22:49
ronaldo is joining us 2.he just terminated his man u contract an is on his way 2 leeds as i speak

Alan Smith
23-12-2005, 22:51
o yer mate nice one..

AgentZero
23-12-2005, 22:51
:ohmy:......well i guess he'll have a good time in the championship

paraic64
23-12-2005, 22:54
yeah hes guna have u 2 suk him off ya queer/

Alan Smith
23-12-2005, 23:00
yer ur well cool mate ur just guoing to get banned if you keep this on..

Hunter
23-12-2005, 23:20
I can find that sort of believable as AC Milan are not having such a good time of late and the team isn't getting much youth in it.

But saying that we aren't really having a good time so it could be possible but I wouldn't bet on it.

Why do you think we aren't having a good time ? Because we are second to a team with inifinite money ?

I will have you know that we are doing very well minus the CL. I think one of the commentators mentioned it the other night, this season we have played around 25 games I think and we have only lost 4. Yeah, we are doing bad aren't we. :rolleyes:

Top Gun
23-12-2005, 23:27
Why do you think we aren't having a good time ? Because we are second to a team with inifinite money ?

I will have you know that we are doing very well minus the CL. I think one of the commentators mentioned it the other night, this season we have played around 25 games I think and we have only lost 4. Yeah, we are doing bad aren't we. :rolleyes:

I mean both of our teams seem to be in the same situation where we are both chasing teams in the league. Also I would have to mention the CL exit which is a bit of a bummer.

So, I couldn't see him joining in January but possibly in the summer and I would love for him to bring Kaka along with him.

P.S Hunter do you know when David Jones' loan ends?

Mambo
23-12-2005, 23:32
Do United need Shevchenko? Ruud and Rooney is a deadly partnership, and you can't have either of them or Shevchenko on the bench every game. SAF should be concentrating on a CB and some CM and possibly a winger to eventually replace Giggs. Maybe a utility player to cover at the back.

Akineye
23-12-2005, 23:50
Aye, we've been linked with Shevchenco.

At the moment it's no more than pure media speculation, and no credible source has even hinted that it's likely- although it is widely suggested that Shevchenko will leave Milan at the end of the season.

The two most likely targets are de Jong and Vidic.

Top Gun
23-12-2005, 23:52
I would like to sign Ryan Babel as I think he will be a very good player in the future and he is going to star for Holland this year in the World Cup.

AgentZero
23-12-2005, 23:53
De Jongs already been signed hasnt he?...amid a media frenzy:rolleyes:

and david jone sis on a year loan spell at PNE...just like becks...and he'll be beack at seasons end

Phatmann
24-12-2005, 00:26
De Jongs already been signed hasnt he?...amid a media frenzy:rolleyes:

and david jone sis on a year loan spell at PNE...just like becks...and he'll be beack at seasons end
David Jones' loan contract runs out on 1st January 2006, but Preston are trying to extend this as he is playing very well for them.

EMIN3M
24-12-2005, 00:28
i would like to see man u sign febregas as i think he can do the role of keane well, i think he has a great future ahead of him and will go along way

Phatmann
24-12-2005, 00:29
i would like to see man u sign febregas as i think he can do the role of keane well, i think he has a great future ahead of him and will go along way
Very unlikely that Arsenal would sell him to us though, considering he's more or less 1st team for them now;)

AgentZero
24-12-2005, 00:29
yeah good'o..doubt Wneger is willing to let this one go

ps2gtavc
24-12-2005, 00:31
Aye, we've been linked with Shevchenco.
At the moment it's no more than pure media speculation, and no credible source has even hinted that it's likely- although it is widely suggested that Shevchenko will leave Milan at the end of the season.
cant see us getting sheva, first of all not sure if he really would leave milan,2nd if he was to leave he's cost 30+million and we dont have the money, and finally if he left to an english club it would surely be chelsea, because they need a world class striker, have infinite money and he's guarenteed to win trophies there.

AgentZero
24-12-2005, 00:35
ur making it sound like we play in th echampionship....theres trophies coming this season

and its been nearly 2 season of cheap buys..very unlike SAF...he needs his retail therapy...Veron..then later on Rooney anyone

Phatmann
24-12-2005, 00:36
ur making it sound like we play in th echampionship....theres trophies coming this season

and its been nearly 2 season of cheap buys..very unlike SAF...he needs his retail therapy...Veron..then later on Rooney
the league cup?:(

Phatmann
24-12-2005, 01:04
Just seen some bad news guys:(
http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=347834&CPID=8&clid=&lid=&title=Fergie:+Saha+going+nowhe re

AgentZero
24-12-2005, 01:08
holy no......Pack ur shotgun phatmann

ps2gtavc
24-12-2005, 01:19
leave louis alone, okay maybe not united quality but if he stays injury free he'll get goals for us.

Top Gun
24-12-2005, 15:10
Looks like we are getting a new defender.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4557572.stm

o0oGedo0o
24-12-2005, 17:11
Why the hell we always get nobodies? I never heard of the guy. :angry:

Phatmann
24-12-2005, 17:34
Hopefully he's a centre back cos I still think Silvestre is a bit shaky at times and we can't trust in Brown to stay injury free.
EDIT: just seen that the price for Vidic is supposedly 16 million euros, so he must have some quality :mellow:

Top Gun
24-12-2005, 21:26
16 million! I haven't heard that but he must be good for that but I think that he can play CB or RB so he could be a replacement for Neville. I do know that there are a few teams after him though.

Singh
24-12-2005, 21:29
I heard that Vidic's agent is in talks with Man united over a fee, as vidic has told his club he is going to leave just a matter of where to.

Top Gun
24-12-2005, 21:30
Yeah that is exactly what I have heard about there being no fee decided but I really think it is about time for SAF to bring in an amazing unknown player and make him world class.

Nedeljko
24-12-2005, 22:21
Vidič is really top quality and i think he is worth the money. He was the main man in the Serbia&Montenegro defence trough all the qulifiers and we all know that they conseeded only one goal. He is a class. I remember in 2001 when Inzaghi was in top form he coulndt score past Vidic. I think he will be a good transfer.

Top Gun
24-12-2005, 22:23
I have just seen on ManUtd.com that Solksjaer is a possibility for the bench on Monday which would be great but I hope that SAF dosen't rush him back to fitness.

Phatmann
25-12-2005, 00:02
I have just seen on ManUtd.com that Solksjaer is a possibility for the bench on Monday which would be great but I hope that SAF dosen't rush him back to fitness.
yeah same here, we don't want him to get injured again! I'd prefer it if his first game back was the fa cup 3rd round match.

AgentZero
25-12-2005, 00:20
MERRY CHRISTMAS LADS!!!!!.....FELIZ NAVIDAD
its 11 am here and im already kinda drunk..

Phatmann
25-12-2005, 00:25
MERRY CHRISTMAS LADS!!!!!.....FELIZ NAVIDAD
its 11 am here and im already kinda drunk..
haha, merry christmas LosGalacticos (and all other Man U fans on here)

What do you reckon the score will be on boxing day? For me: Man U 2-1 WBA Rooney and Ruud scoring the goals. Ronaldo is suspended for this match which I don't really mind as he's not on top form really.

AgentZero
25-12-2005, 00:27
WBA ....i reckon it ll be a 3-0 scoreline to Utd.....i can see us putting a spirited game against WBA.....
Scorers;
Rooney
Scholes
Fletcher

Top Gun
25-12-2005, 00:55
haha, merry christmas LosGalacticos (and all other Man U fans on here)

What do you reckn the score will be on boxing day? For me: Man U 2-1 WBA Rooney and Ruud scoring the goals. Ronaldo is suspended for this match which I don't really mind as he's not on top form really.

Yeah Ronaldo isn't doing to well lately but I reckon it will be 2-0, Ruud and Giggs.

o0oGedo0o
25-12-2005, 02:25
3-0 Ruud, Ronney and O'Shea from a corner :D

AgentZero
25-12-2005, 04:23
O'shea thats very optimistic but ......i think he is our highest scoring back

Papa Lazarou
25-12-2005, 21:08
well we've definately got him now

http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=289762&itype=466&icategoryid=120

Miggy
25-12-2005, 21:10
Is he any good?

Phatmann
25-12-2005, 21:41
Is he any good?
We'll soon see;)

vanNistelrooy
25-12-2005, 22:20
Is he any good?

Well, let's be honest, he can't be any worst than Silvestre can he?

Phatmann
25-12-2005, 22:28
Well, let's be honest, he can't be any worst than Silvestre can he?
Lets just hope. Well to be fair Silvestre isn't a terrible player but has just been on bad form for the last few games.

Papa Lazarou
25-12-2005, 22:29
Well, let's be honest, he can't be any worst than Silvestre can he?

LOL

yeh i think Silvestre needs some serious time on the bench, i think we should play Wes more often but hey, if this new guy is great then he should start. Maybe Fergies idea is to get another CB in an play Silvestre at Left-Back

vanNistelrooy
25-12-2005, 22:32
Lets just hope. Well to be fair Silvestre isn't a terrible player but has just been on bad form for the last few games.

Don't you mean LAST FEW YEARS!?

Bring in Wesley, much better IMO.

Phatmann
25-12-2005, 22:37
Don't you mean LAST FEW YEARS!?

Bring in Wesley, much better IMO.
Wesley has never been really consistent at centre back but I have to admit since he's come in for Silvestre he has been great (also his injuries dont really help his performances). So I'm looking forward to seeing Vidic play, I wonder how much he cost :mellow:

vanNistelrooy
25-12-2005, 22:45
Still, neither could have been as bad as Laurent Blanc! If someone has our results for the last 5 seasons, look for the season we lost games to:

Bolton
Liverpool
Arsenal
Newcastle
Chelsea

Think it was the year we lost 4-3 to Newcastle at SJP. See if you can find the hidden message!

Phatmann
25-12-2005, 22:51
Still, neither could have been as bad as Laurent Blanc! If someone has our results for the last 5 seasons, look for the season we lost games to:

Bolton
Liverpool
Arsenal
Newcastle
Chelsea

Think it was the year we lost 4-3 to Newcastle at SJP. See if you can find the hidden message!
:laugh: saw that on Soccer AM, just before we played Chelsea. Tim was bragging how Chelsea were surely going to win pointing out this coincidence. I didn't mind Blanc to be honest- very good defender but perhaps a few yards too slow :D

vanNistelrooy
25-12-2005, 22:59
When was it on Soccer AM? I heard of it during the season it happened.

Phatmann
25-12-2005, 23:32
When was it on Soccer AM? I heard of it during the season it happened.
It was on Soccer AM the weekend that we were playing Chelsea.

vanNistelrooy
25-12-2005, 23:34
It was on Soccer AM the weekend that we were playing Chelsea.

Oh, you mean the weekend we BEAT Chelsea.

vanNistelrooy
26-12-2005, 15:54
I gather you've all heard about Paul Robinson. Hopefully it's not as serious as once feared.

Phatmann
26-12-2005, 15:57
I gather you've all heard about Paul Robinson. Hopefully it's not as serious as once feared.
I heard he appeared unconscious and was stretchered off with a neck brace on, let's just hope it's not too serious.
p.s. Did it look real bad? as I only heard of it from text commentary.

vanNistelrooy
26-12-2005, 15:59
I heard he appeared unconscious and was stretchered off with a neck brace on, let's just hope it's not too serious.
p.s. Did it look real bad? as I only heard of it from text commentary.

I know as much as you do at the moment.

AgentZero
26-12-2005, 22:12
good win over wba.....ferdinand scored again!!!!!....

Top Gun
26-12-2005, 22:15
Good result it looks like we are getting into some good form, it looks like we are back to the 1999/2002 days when we would knock over these sorts of teams without a second thought.

o0oGedo0o
26-12-2005, 22:58
i read that it was rooney who pushed robinson into the clash with his team mate ...

Top Gun
27-12-2005, 00:08
Iv'e just saw Paul Scholes's goal and Rio was amazing running forward, I hope he does it more because he looks dangerous. I think I can remember him doing it last match.

3663dawg
27-12-2005, 00:17
man u top notch world class just seen motd i think man u are great again still a possible double on cards park,ferdinand 5 star performances well done man u

o0oGedo0o
27-12-2005, 13:27
i don't understand what he's just said

Singh
27-12-2005, 17:37
man u top notch world class just seen motd i think man u are great again still a possible double on cards park,ferdinand 5 star performances well done man u

Man united are a top notch, world class team. I have just seen Match of the day and i think man utd are great and they could win the double yet, park and ferdinand performed well 5 star. Well done man united.;)

Top Gun
27-12-2005, 17:44
Thanks for the translation.

Singh
27-12-2005, 17:45
Your welcome.

Carrick anyone? to solve United's midfeld problems.

I heard from number of sources United may make an offer for him.

Top Gun
27-12-2005, 17:47
I would like Carrick as I see him as a good prospect for the future. He is a good passer of the ball and is also good from set pieces.

I feel he would work well with Scholes as he is the sort of player who could sit back and Scholes could go and play his natural game going forward.

Phatmann
27-12-2005, 17:50
Carrick would be great but would spurs sell him and do we have enough money to buy him?

Singh
27-12-2005, 17:53
Dont think Spurs would sell him, however im sure the funds would be there. Silvestre's future looks uncertain and im hearing lyon are interested in him.

It would make sense for united to get him in the summer, as they may win something and use those funds to buy him.

Top Gun
27-12-2005, 17:53
Carrick would be great but would spurs sell him and do we have enough money to buy him?

I'm not sure that Spurs would want to sell him since he is one of there best players.

I feel that 10 million would be around the right price for him.

Also for Carrick personally he would think that if he moved to Man Utd in January and then performed well for the rest of the season he would be able to get to the World Cup.

Phatmann
27-12-2005, 17:54
Also for Carrick personally he would think that if he moved to Man Utd in January and then performed well for the rest of the season he would be able to get to the World Cup.
That's a good point, could be more possible than I first thought.

Gary G
27-12-2005, 18:52
Also for Carrick personally he would think that if he moved to Man Utd in January and then performed well for the rest of the season he would be able to get to the World Cup.

Man Utd will have a hard enough job trying to sign Carrick in the Summer, so a January move is extremely unlikely. I agree he would be an excellent signing for yous, he's a top player.

Whilst I'm here, a note for any of you with access to Sky Sports - a selection of MUTV programmes are currently free-to-view, not that it interests me like.

o0oGedo0o
27-12-2005, 21:16
I'm sad to see Silvestre future on the line here. I always liked that guy.

vanNistelrooy
27-12-2005, 21:21
I'm sad to see Silvestre future on the line here. I always liked that guy.

Well, he needs to sort his performances out. He can't expect to play as dodgy as he does and still expect a first team place.

My January Wishlist

1. Wesley Sneijder
2. Michael Carrick
3. Steven Davis (although unlikely as he just signed new contract)

Cali
27-12-2005, 21:44
yeh if chelsea go and lose 3 games we have a chance for the premiership title;)as we are on magnificiant form:rolleyes:park definately played the best he ever has in a red devils shirt on sunday idnt he;)can anyone clarify who we have got tomorrow thanks in advice;)

o0oGedo0o
27-12-2005, 22:00
birmingham

Phatmann
28-12-2005, 01:28
Should be another easy win against a team managed by an ex-man u player ;) No place for messing up here.

Ronaldo7
28-12-2005, 14:23
The first contender for the Man U job has stepped forward
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2005600253,00.html

Also it looks like Maniche will be going to Chelsea in Jan cos he wants to work with Mourinho again. 1 year loan deal apparantly.

Yossi
28-12-2005, 15:23
I reckon Capello will go to Real Madrid at the end of the season- Perez wants him and Caro is only the caretaker so Capello can take over in the summer.My January Wishlist

1. Wesley Sneijder
2. Michael Carrick
3. Steven Davis (although unlikely as he just signed new contract)
That lot will cost about £20m, and with Vidic coming in you have no chance. Anyway, all you really need is a central midfielder now, and Davis wouldn't be good enough I reckon.

vanNistelrooy
28-12-2005, 18:25
I reckon Capello will go to Real Madrid at the end of the season- Perez wants him and Caro is only the caretaker so Capello can take over in the summer.
That lot will cost about £20m, and with Vidic coming in you have no chance. Anyway, all you really need is a central midfielder now, and Davis wouldn't be good enough I reckon.

I don't want all of them (although it was be sweet). Just one will make me happy.

vanNistelrooy
28-12-2005, 21:46
Fucking stupid. Congtratulations Chelsea, the titlte is yours. If we can't beat a team, that our reserves beat last week, with our first team then we stand no chance.

Miggy
28-12-2005, 21:53
Seriously, it was over before tonights game. Ok they had a few good results but alot of united fans got ahead of themselves. Its a shame, beacause I don't want to see chelsea run away with it again.

vanNistelrooy
28-12-2005, 21:54
Seriously, it was over before tonights game. Ok they had a few good results but alot of united fans got ahead of themselves. Its a shame, beacause I don't want to see chelsea run away with it again.

What dissapoints me is that Chelsea haven't got that many good players, yet they seem to stroll the league.

Earthworm
28-12-2005, 21:58
Fucking stupid. Congtratulations Chelsea, the titlte is yours. If we can't beat a team, that our reserves beat last week, with our first team then we stand no chance.
Completely agree, I am fucking disgusted by this, how can we not manage to beat Birmingham. Learn to fucking defend, the midfield is shit.The front 2 are the only quality are team posseses at the moment with few exceptions.The title is Chelsea's they can be lucky and still win matches. The amount of games Chelsea have won by 1 goal pisses me off to no end, why the fuck can we not just do that.

vanNistelrooy
28-12-2005, 22:02
The amount of games Chelsea have won by 1 goal pisses me off to no end, why the fuck can we not just do that.

That's far too easy for United.

Funny how Chelsea's game winner (Joe Cole) should have been suspended for tonight's game if the ref could have done his job properly against Fulham. But oh well, shit happens, then he signs for Chelsea for £24m!

Joel
28-12-2005, 22:16
What dissapoints me is that Chelsea haven't got that many good players, yet they seem to stroll the league.

LOL...........so are you trying to say Man U have better players than Chelsea?

I will admit, your two attackers are better than ours, but I think we are superior to you in all other departments. And our team spirit is second to none.

Please don't blow this over and make an arguement out of it, just read what you said and had to say what I had to say.;)

vanNistelrooy
28-12-2005, 22:20
LOL...........so are you trying to say Man U have better players than Chelsea?

I will admit, your two attackers are better than ours, but I think we are superior to you in all other departments. And our team spirit is second to none.

Please don't blow this over and make an arguement out of it, just read what you said and had to say what I had to say.;)

Lampard, Terry and Duff. That's all I see. John Terry makes your defence (including Cech) look alot better than they are. Your forwards are naff (Crespo is good, but not made for the Premiership IMO). Makalele may be an exeption, but Essien has been overhyped. Didn't he get dragged off at HT vs us?

On tonights performance, we should have played Park instead of Ronaldo, as Park's performances as of late have been top class.

Keyser Soze
28-12-2005, 23:38
Lampard, Terry and Duff. That's all I see.
Not Makalele, Essien, Robben, Cech, Gallas, Del Horno, Ferriera, Crespo, Cole, Gudjohnsen, Wright-Phillips? All of these players could walk into your team, maybe not Del Horno as he is in par or slightly inferior to your best defender, Gabriel Heinze. That is an unbeivable statement you have just said there.

P.S. Ferdinand was partly at fault for Brum's second goal, when the ball was whacked across the 6 yard box, Ferdinand, who was a yard away from the player, turned his back like a coward. 90% of the Chelsea team would kill to get infront of that ball even if it means going in face first.

AgentZero
28-12-2005, 23:41
disgusting

pokey
28-12-2005, 23:50
What dissapoints me is that Chelsea haven't got that many good players, yet they seem to stroll the league.

roflmfao!!!!!!!!!!

player for player they have a far better first team than yous and every other team in the prem... and theyre second team could hold itself well in the premiership...

by far one of the stupidest things ive herad on here

no offence

Scarface
28-12-2005, 23:56
Not Makalele, Essien, Robben, Cech, Gallas, Del Horno, Ferriera, Crespo, Cole, Gudjohnsen, Wright-Phillips? All of these player could walk into your team, maybe not Del Horno as he is in par or slightly inferior to your best defender, Gabriel Heinze. That is an unbeivable statement you have just said there.

P.S. Ferdinand was partly at fault for Brum's second goal, when the ball was whacked across the 6 yard box, Ferdinand, who was a yard away from the player, turned his back like a coward. 90% of the Chelsea team would kill to get infront of that ball even if it means going in face first.

I don't think SWP, Gudjohnsen, Ferreira, Del Horno or Crespo could walk into the Man Utd side. I agree that Petr Cech, John Terry, Joe Cole, Damien Duff, Frank Lampard and Claude Makelele (or Michael Essien) could. William Gallas possibly, but personally I think Rio Ferdinand is the better defender when in form.


--------------------------Cech------------------------

--G.Neville--------Terry---------Ferdinand-----Heinze--

--Joe Cole-------Lampard-------Makelele------Duff-----

---------------van Nistelrooy----Rooney----------------

Not a bad looking team ;)

Keyser Soze
29-12-2005, 00:00
I don't think SWP, Gudjohnsen, Ferreira, Del Horno or Crespo could walk into the Man Utd side. I agree that Petr Cech, John Terry, Joe Cole, Damien Duff, Frank Lampard and Claude Makelele (or Michael Essien) could. William Gallas possibly, but personally I think Rio Ferdinand is the best defender in the country when in form.


--------------------------Cech------------------------

--G.Neville--------Terry---------Ferdinand-----Heinze--

--Joe Cole-------Lampard-------Makelele------Duff-----

---------------van Nistelrooy----Rooney----------------

Not a bad looking team ;)
Hehe, alright maybe not walk into the team, I got a bit carried away there. But my point is Chelsea's depth and squad is excellent and how you can say we only have 3 good players is laughable.

Earthworm
29-12-2005, 00:15
The bottom line is, If we(Man U.) had Chelsea's money we could buy the Premiership aswell.

To say all the money they have, they have made some very poor signings and paid big for them.I.E.Drogba,SWP.

Keyser Soze
29-12-2005, 00:15
The bottom line is, If we(Man U.) had Chelsea's money we could buy the Premiership aswell.

To say all the money they have, they have made some very poor signings and paid big for them.I.E.Drogba,SWP.
Ok, so you drew today because Chelsea have a lot of money. I understand. :mellow:

Earthworm
29-12-2005, 00:20
Ok, so you lost today because Chelsea have a lot of money. I understand. :mellow:
No that's not true, but in case you hadn't realised until Chelsea got the money we would be far above you and only Liverpool would be higher placed.Although United and Arsenal have deteraited in quality over the last few years, United would still be leading the premiership if it wasn't for Chelsea's money.Chelsea were nothing until they got bought by a billionaire and they would be nothing today without his money.

Also we didn't lose today you idiot.

Keyser Soze
29-12-2005, 00:22
No that's not true, but in case you hadn't realised until Chelsea got the money we would be far above you and only Liverpool would be higher placed.Although United and Arsenal have deteraited in quality over the last few years, United would still be leading the premiership if it wasn't for Chelsea's money.Chelsea were nothing until they got bought by a billionaire and they would be nothing today without his money.

Also we didn't lose today you idiot.
Whats this got to do with United drawing against a poor Birmingham side though? No Chelsea fans have come on to gloat, just give our views, but talk about being bitter.

Edit Don't call me an idiot you prick, It was just a typo.

Earthworm
29-12-2005, 00:25
Whats this got to do with United drawing against a poor Birmingham side though? No Chelsea fans have come on to gloat, just give our views, but talk about being bitter.
Yes, I may well be bitter. I think every single Premiership fan in the world is bitter of Chelsea's money, you give Sunderland all that money I think they could buy some class players too. Every team drops points, that is the nature of football, who have you dropped points to this season?3 points in particular.

Keyser Soze
29-12-2005, 00:28
Yes, I may well be bitter. I think every single Premiership fan in the world is bitter of Chelsea's money, you give Sunderland all that money I think they could buy some class players too. Every team drops points, that is the nature of football, who have you dropped points to this season?3 points in particular.
Manchester United. The team that didn't win anything last season, are out of the Champions League and have no chance of winning the Premiership. And like I said, I wasn't gloating just replying to a silly post where someone said Chelsea only have 3 good players.

Earthworm
29-12-2005, 00:38
Manchester United. The team that didn't win anything last season, are out of the Champions League and have no chance of winning the Premiership. And like I said, I wasn't gloating just replying to a silly post where someone said Chelsea only have 3 good players.
I'm not even gonna waste my time talking to someone who clearly doesn't know anything about football.

Keyser Soze
29-12-2005, 00:40
I'm not even gonna waste my time talking to someone who clearly doesn't know anything about football.
Good to see your justifiying your "Most Hated Member Award". Keep it up.

Yossi
29-12-2005, 00:45
I'm not even gonna waste my time talking to someone who clearly doesn't know anything about football.
Where in that post you quoted did he say anything that makes you think he knows nothing about football?

TheAlchemist
29-12-2005, 01:03
The bottom line is, If we(Man U.) had Chelsea's money we could buy the Premiership aswell.

To say all the money they have, they have made some very poor signings and paid big for them.I.E.Drogba,SWP.

Youlot are Richer Than us, its just that we have a more well off owner; Therefore, if he were to invest all of his money into the club then we would be...http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/4272205.stm

Akineye
29-12-2005, 09:47
Youlot are Richer Than us, its just that we have a more well off owner; Therefore, if he were to invest all of his money into the club then we would be...http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/4272205.stm

That list is now absoloutle nonsense.

Although I haven't done the legwork, I can say fairly confidently that we are the poorest team in world football.