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Stella Artois
03-02-2006, 12:25
You have six fingers on one hand?:huh:

;)

Either he was born near a nuclear power station, or he's an inbred. I choose the latter personally.

AgentZero
03-02-2006, 12:50
:laugh:..considering there isnt many Nuclear Power Stations in the UK (if any) alll six fingers point to inbred

Akineye
03-02-2006, 13:30
Either he was born near a nuclear power station, or he's an inbred. I choose the latter personally.

'He?'

Was that a slow-witted dig at me?

Stella Artois
03-02-2006, 13:43
Well I don't see anyone else making stupid comments about Blackburn being able to count to 6 on their five fingers, do you?

Kemmel
03-02-2006, 13:58
Akineye what in the fuck are you smoking? To suggest Blackburn fans can count is one thing, to suggest you can safely go on this piss in the area is ridiculous!

:D

Akineye
03-02-2006, 14:24
Well I don't see anyone else making stupid comments about Blackburn being able to count to 6 on their five fingers, do you?

Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooosh.

vanNistelrooy
04-02-2006, 22:12
4-2. Not a great defensive performance, but I'll take the result!

Ronaldo showed his quality for a change too. Some good runs and crosses, with the occasional piss take of the opponents :tongue: Hopefully he'll start performing that on a more regular basis.

cmccolgan27
05-02-2006, 00:46
yes it was a great first half, could have easily been 7 - 8 goals. it did bring back memorys of 1999 when we used to play for fun. RVN could have had a hatrick too on another day. evra played well tho hes does like to get in teamates way alot maybe just because he is still nervous. also one thing i notice about saha he tends to get early goals and then he will sit back for the rest of the match thinking hes done his bit, that might just be me tho? richo in the middle mmm.. he was good on the ball but didnt do much defensively? smith was MIA. once we get a few classy central midfielders i cant see him getting many games, the fact of the matter is that he is a good striker thats why we bought him. park alright played like he used to at psv today nice. ronaldo was effective hooray!! lol lets hope he can carry on and leave this mess he has been in behind. silvestre is a liabilty what ya think?
What positions does PIQUE play? can someone tell me, i looked on the net and it says defender but ive seen him twice in DM.

footiezboy11
05-02-2006, 06:42
the game was amazing!!!!!
ive gotta give credit to van nistelrooy he did amazing.

anywho i think pique plays as a defender.

AgentZero
05-02-2006, 08:15
Pique is a defender...but we don't need to pressure him.
Against Liverpool Rio was practically playing along side giggs in CM. So maybe push him a little high than usuall and Bring in Vidic to partner either Wes or Mikael, preferable Wes.
Pique should be groomed as Centreback he's perfect for it.

Akineye
05-02-2006, 15:38
Scoring four goals at home should mean you've won an easy three points. So how come 'til Ronaldo's second strike we struggled to kill off the opposition? Have the bad old days of comic defending returned?

It's easy to criticise when you lose, but a lot less so when you win - but there are times when to do so far from being picky, is necessary.

With the transfer window shut, our midfield for this season at least is a ramshackle patchwork mess of strikers, defenders, wanabees and misfits.

Today it was the turn of Smith and Richardson to 'patrol' the midfield neither protecting the defence ot aiding the attack. It's perhaps harsh on Kieran who does his little best, but without Park early in the game, and Ronaldo throughout, Saha and Ruud would have been afforded no service whatsoever. Fortunately, what little help they did get, they used to their enormous abilities and we found ourselves scoring four goals.

Then there was the defence. When Ferdinand plays alongside Brown we look at our best in the middle. With Vidic being the new boy, the jury's out on whether he can further cement the centre - but there's no reason why not given his performances so far, and allowing for a settling in period. But the plan yesterday did not include him. The jury is far closer to making a decision regarding our new left back however. No really he is a left back, though he doesn't appear to actually play there. Early days, but with first impressions and all that, should he ever come up against a decent right sided attacking player I'd watch the game only through slightly spread fingers in the absence of a settee in a sort of Dr. Who and the Daleks scenario from being aged five to hide behind.

Van der Sar has reacted to the new look defence by losing his confidence and the steady keeper has looked almost Barthez at times this week. It's true we've suffered from the disappearance of Heinze, but to buy two defenders in preference to even one midfield player, is completely at odds against the statistics of the goals conceded column, and of what we've witnessed - a midfield that's had to use O'Shea (centre half), Smith (centre forward), Ferdinand (centre half), Rooney (centre forward)etc etc etc, whilst losing Scholes for the season and Keane forever.

Comical defending we all thought was a thing of the past - quite clearly it's not. Comic midfield play however has never gone away.

Lord Shrimpeh
05-02-2006, 17:27
Excellent post that Akineye I agree with everything you say.

The problem with the defense at the moment is the midfield aren't protecting them. It must be hard for Vidic and Evra to come in and have loads of people running at them all the time. Though I must admit neither have them look amazing at the moment... hopefully they'll improve.

I can only think Fergie has written this season off and is waiting till the summer to buy midfielders. I think if we win the Carling and FA cup, and secure second place in the league we can count his strategy a success.

But without a genuine good central midfielder, we run a risk. He should have bought someone in on loan.

All I can see is either Ferdinand in defensive midfield, or Fletcher there.

This, might be our best squad at the moment:

Neville---Ferdinand---Vidic---Evra
------------Fletcher-------------
Ronaldo--------------------Giggs/Park
------------Rooney------------------
RVN-----------------------Saha

Fletcher ain't a defensive midfielder, but at least he is a CM... unlike Smith or Ferdinand.

The main problem I have with Fergie is his squad rotating. Why!? Even Chelsea don't rotate so much. Rooney was out this match for no reason, Ruud the match before... Why!!

pier69
06-02-2006, 01:51
i think , personally giggs would be good as an attacking midfielder , and park should be used on the left. with rio as a defensive midfielder and bwron as a centre back with vidic. formation should be something like this

neville , brown , vidic , evra
ronaldo , rio , giggs , rooney
ruud , saha

Akineye
08-02-2006, 09:21
I'm still annoyed that none of you geniuses got the 6 finger thing.

One schmuck creamed himself at the prospect of being able to correct my mistake.

Lord Shrimpeh
08-02-2006, 23:27
I'm still annoyed that none of you geniuses got the 6 finger thing.

One schmuck creamed himself at the prospect of being able to correct my mistake.

They can't count???

Ronaldo_is_fat
09-02-2006, 12:10
The main problem I have with Fergie is his squad rotating. Why!? Even Chelsea don't rotate so much. Rooney was out this match for no reason, Ruud the match before... Why!!

Resting them for next year's CL

vanNistelrooy
11-02-2006, 14:13
Resting them for next year's CL

...atleast we'll be there...

Barry
11-02-2006, 14:16
Hardly a substitute, so will probably FC Basel and Maccabi Tel Aviv :tongue:

vanNistelrooy
11-02-2006, 14:46
Hardly a substitute, so will probably FC Basel and Maccabi Tel Aviv :tongue:

Arsenal won't be in that list :tongue:

Top Gun
11-02-2006, 17:42
1-0 up against Portsmouth Ruud getting a tap in after Giggs hit the crossbar.

Top Gun
11-02-2006, 19:27
3-1 finish with the goals coming from Ruud and Ronaldo getting 2 more, it's a bit of a shame that we couldn't keep a clean sheet but a good result none the less.

AgentZero
12-02-2006, 05:35
who and how was the defence?

cmccolgan27
12-02-2006, 10:45
Team was.
................Van der sar......................
Brown.......Rio.......Vidic... ......Silvestre.
Ronaldo....Fletcher.....Giggs. .....Park.....
..................rooney...... ....................
........................Van Nisetelrooy........



The Team did well but the second half was a bore and disapointing i missed the first half live and whilst watching the second was hoping for them to disgrace the portsmouth by putting another 2 or 3 in but it never happend. Vidic played well, he is starting to look at home here. rooney looks tired or just missing something. ronaldo played well he wasnt doing so many stepovers? he has played his last 2 matches like how he plays for portugal. great goals. park was pushed off the ball again throughout the match. fletcher played well better than richardson. smith needs to get out of midfield. the poor bugger wont get a game next season after they sign some midfielders. giggs did well in the middle i havnt seen him play there much at all its interesting. when howard came on i was nervous LOL he always seems to make a mistake, hey i heard that this was van der sars last season at old trafford can someone back that up? what will we do then?
oh yeah the 2 forwards for pompy played well and were unlucky, there is a bit of promise for harry there, i hope they stay up birmingham, sunderland and west brom should go down i feel.
Anyway the match was boring bar the goals from ronaldo and RVN we lack creativety in the middle ronaldo and rooney were the only hope to create and rvn to maybe get his poached goals, we are looking a bit one dimensional at the moment, manchester teams from yesteryear would have takin a game a 3 - 0 at half time and blew it out. but maybe i should just be happy that we won and young ronaldo has found form,he's a real confidence player.

AgentZero
12-02-2006, 10:50
VDS to go...thats a shame, he has probably saved us from where arsenal is

Guillermo
12-02-2006, 16:01
Anyone know how bad the injuries for Giggs and Van Der Sar are?

Top Gun
12-02-2006, 16:07
I don't think that they are too bad as I can't find anything on the Man Utd website.

Estill
13-02-2006, 23:01
Anyone got a video or a link to a video of the Ronaldo wonder goal? Shamefully I haven't seen it yet...

Top Gun
15-02-2006, 00:54
Anyone got a video or a link to a video of the Ronaldo wonder goal? Shamefully I haven't seen it yet...

It wasn't really a wonder goasl it just caught the keeper unawares.

Lord Shrimpeh
15-02-2006, 02:38
Anyone got a video or a link to a video of the Ronaldo wonder goal? Shamefully I haven't seen it yet...

www.latestgoals.net is always your friend for such things

AgentZero
16-02-2006, 10:41
superb strike....im lovin keallys face

Estill
16-02-2006, 14:54
Doesn't work for me, says file is either corrupt or wrong file type or something like that, any ideas?

Phatmann
16-02-2006, 16:05
Got my West Ham tickets in the post today, but it says the game is on Wednesday. I was sure that when I applied for them it said the game was on Saturday 25th March. Anyone else know anything on this?

Akineye
16-02-2006, 19:10
who and how was the defence?

Wes, Silvestre, Vidic and Rio.

From the start there was a gulf in class between the two teams, with the industrious Park and talented Ronaldo causing them problems down either flank. It was another of our midfielders who created the opening goal with a flashback to days gone past when he floated past their midfield, attacked the defence and after a clever 1:2 with Ruud, swerved past their 'keeper. In a week when the subject of playacting and diving has reared its ugly head once more, Giggsy showed how the game should be played, with skill and honesty and he was only denied his true reward by the underside of the bar. Many teams would have rued their luck, but not when you have the most prolific striker in the land (Shearer, Henry check the facts). Ruud followed in as he always does and nodded in the first. He is now only 2 away from the 150 goal mark for the reds and his record in a little over 200 games for the club is phenomenal.

From then on it was cruise control for the first half and Ronaldo's first goal was sheer class. Following up his brace against Fulham the young star looked full of confidence and without the off field pressures which have undoubtedly affected his performance so far. An inch perfect pass from Rooney set Ronny up for his second and United's third which he finished with ease. He deserved his hat trick but was denied in the closing minutes when his free kick hit the bar.

A special mention should go to Lua Lua, who was simply outstanding considering the weeks events in his personal life. He never gave up and caused us real problems with his direct and tricky style.

So hopefully we have marked our last trip to Fratton Park for a few years with 3 points. It's a trip none of us will miss, their home fans do make the most noise in the league but it's a long trip home.

Hunter
16-02-2006, 19:14
Nice little review there Akineye.

I'm getting tickets to the Birmingham game (I hope so anyway) but the website isn't allowing me to Log In. I've had this problem before, it just doesn't let me click the Log In button. I will click it but when I do, nothing happens, nothing loads so I can't really get tickets. Any suggestions ?

Akineye
16-02-2006, 19:22
Nice little review there Akineye

Better late than never.

I'm already giddy with anticipation for this weekend's game against the mickeys.

BarnDoor
18-02-2006, 15:08
Smith has apparently got a broken leg and Alex "Abortion face" Ferguson says its the worst injury he has seen.

I don't suppose you mancs give a shit he's shit anyway and a fucking clunge but i don't like see anyone getting hurt

Hunter
18-02-2006, 15:11
Smith has apparently got a broken leg and Alex "Abortion face" Ferguson says its the worst injury he has seen.

I don't suppose you mancs give a shit he's shit anyway and a fucking clunge but i don't like see anyone getting hurt

Looked bad, was being treated on the pitch for about 5 minutes.

Course he care you muppet, he gives his all and his dedication isn't questionable. Also he is definetely not shit, you put any Striker in DMF and see how well they play eh ? Hes done a good job there. Also the word "clunge" is awful, 5 year old kids have better insults.

PS: Am I the only one who thinks we were robbed of 3 minutes injury time. They indicated that there will be 7 minutes added on, but this was when play started again in the 93rd minute. Also the commentators said on the 95 minute mark that there is 5 minutes left, but the Ref blew on the 97th min.

Guillermo
18-02-2006, 15:17
Yeah, I was suprised to hear the whistle suddenly go on 97:48. John Motson said the match will be heading into 100mins.

For me, the match was over before it even began. Having Giggs and Richardson in the centre of the park is just suicide.

BarnDoor
18-02-2006, 15:18
Course he care you muppet, he gives his all and his dedication isn't questionable. Also he is definetely not shit, you put any Striker in DMF and see how well they play eh ? Hes done a good job there. Also the word "clunge" is awful, 5 year old kids have better insults.

I thought clunge was more fitting for him. I could also have said a fucking gaping gash but i refrained from doing so. I personally could win a slagging match between a five year as i class my insults as right on the button, if a five year old did get the better of me i'd beat the shit out of him for his audacity.


I felt pity for him and thats all i can do. But he is shit mate lets be honest and a fucking snatch to boot. I hope he recovers so i may insult his shitness when i see him next play the toon

Also the middle of defence was woeful, Brown was bad but the other fella was even worse. They didn't know what they were doing and were, quite frankly, fucking shit

I have always hated Smith, and as a striker he was shit. He reminds me of Bowyer, alot of heart but fuck all else and mostly awful and they are both, whats the word? Ah yes, fucking clunges

Singh
18-02-2006, 15:26
The Toon have no right to call a player shite. Do i sense a bit of hostility towards smith considering he rejected newcaslte.

Liverpool are very clever at breaking up the play by constantly fouling most notabily Sissoko.

But overall liverpool played better and deserved the win, United missed Rio Ferdinand the most Vidic was a bit lost.

Hope Smith recovers as soon as possible.

BarnDoor
18-02-2006, 15:30
No mate not at all. I know alot of my teams shit, please look at the Souness thread, i'll dig it up. Honestly i'm not a knob, i respect Utd but some of your team is shit and you need shot of cunts such as Brown, Vidic, Silvestre, Darren " Clunge face" Fletcher, Richardson, Smith and Louis "I couldn't score in a savage cunny warren" Saha and that should do the trick

Guillermo
18-02-2006, 15:39
http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=364760&CPID=8&clid=&lid=4163&title=Smith+suffers+horrific+b reak

Singh
18-02-2006, 15:44
A nasty injury for smith there, horrific. The game seems irrevelant now, this looks really really long term.

Silvestre, Darren " Clunge face" Fletcher and Richardson need to go thats about it. Smith, Saha and Brown are good enough and still can do a job for United as for Vidic its early days.

BarnDoor
18-02-2006, 15:46
Glad you agree with clunge face at least singh, but are you sure about the cunny Warren?

Singh
18-02-2006, 15:49
Yes you mean saha, for now he should stay he is good at scoring in cups games and like today he played better then ruud and rooney and he only came on in second half.

Hunter
18-02-2006, 15:50
No mate not at all. I know alot of my teams shit, please look at the Souness thread, i'll dig it up. Honestly i'm not a knob, i respect Utd but some of your team is shit and you need shot of cunts such as Brown, Vidic, Silvestre, Darren " Clunge face" Fletcher, Richardson, Smith and Louis "I couldn't score in a savage cunny warren" Saha and that should do the trick

Brown has been sensational this season, so to say that off 1 game is fairly silly and pathetic to be honest. Vidic has only played a few matches so you obviously have no clue. Silvestre is dipping but hes probably off in the Summer so theres no worries and Darren Fletcher is a good player. He may get in the team because hes Scottish but usually in big games he steps it up a gear. He beat Chelsea with his headed goal, without him we wouldn't have won. Also he played top notch against Arsenal controlling the park. Richardson's quite useless really. Smith certainly isn't shit, its just your hatred towards him blocking your vision and opinions of his ability. Saha has scored quite a few goals this season, hes into double figures too isn't he ?

Also "clunge" is an awful insult. Really a 5 year old would win in an argument with you, if you kept using that word.

BarnDoor
18-02-2006, 15:57
Mate you have said that already and it wasn't that funny the first time and i like the word, find it rolls of the tongue and i can't see me stop using it. I have many other words in my vocab but i like clunge. I can't see whats wrong with it

What would you like me to call him? Look my dislike for him does not block my vision i just don't rate him, not in anyway. I don't really rate Brown or Fletcher, from what i have saw of Vidic he hasn't impressed me.

Now i'm off to have a row with a five year old to disprove this view of yours

Hunter
18-02-2006, 16:01
Wasn't funny the first time ? It wasn't intended to be funny unlike your immature insults. "Clunge" is a boring word and I'm sure a lot of people on this site agree.

I'd prefer you to call him twat instead of "clunge". Also you clearly haven't a clue if you think Brown is shit, he has been United's most consistant defender this year. Please, don't return to this thread again.

BarnDoor
18-02-2006, 16:06
Jesus you really get wound up easily don't you mate? Theres no need to cry about. If Brown is apparently your most consistent defender then you have problems.

I can joke and criticise my team and lay into them but its obvious you don't like it and thats alright but christ man don't get uptight about it

Hunter
18-02-2006, 16:11
Jesus you really get wound up easily don't you mate? Theres no need to cry about. If Brown is apparently your most consistent defender then you have problems.

I can joke and criticise my team and lay into them but its obvious you don't like it and thats alright but christ man don't get uptight about it

I'm not annoyed about my team, I'm annoyed by you still using that shitty word "clunge". It really is silly, playground jokes are more insulting than that word.

I have criticised my team enough this season, so when we have a good run of form I like to credit them. But as Newcastle are all around shit I suppose you wouldn't know eh ?

BarnDoor
18-02-2006, 16:24
Oh for fucks sake mate, i know Newcastle are shit! I have posted it enough times! I have said that i don't rate certain players, like i have posted in the Newcastle thread about certain players and called then every name under the sun. Why is the word clunge bothering you? Jesus its just a word! I called him clunge just light heartedly but you have to come on acting the fucking cunt. I bet you never even heard the word clunge until i said it.

I will use any word i fucking please and whatever shit you say won't off put me from saying it. Come back when you have growed some pubes you fucking snatch (Do you understand the last word or do you need an explanation?)

Hunter
18-02-2006, 16:45
Now whos taking this all the wrong way then. It bothers me because you overuse it. Like for example, annoying people who constantly say catchphrases from TV programs, its just as annoying. Light heartedly ? Does it have 2 meanings now does it ? So lets say I call you a cunt and you take it the wrong way, I could've just implemented the friendly way of saying it. :rolleyes:

Grown some pubes ? You can't even spell grown so I think its you who should do the developing.

Papa Lazarou
18-02-2006, 17:36
jeez shut the fuck up and stick to topic!!

Bad result today, we weren't therre in midfield. I don't know why he didnt start with Smith and Park instead of Fletcher and Richardson. Also Smiths break looked fuckin rough and it has ruled him out for the rest of the year which is a shame as i thought he had done enough to stake a claim to a World Cup place. All i have to say now is WE BEST WIN THE LEAGUE CUP FINAL!

BarnDoor
18-02-2006, 17:38
Jesus mate if you think i took anything you said to heart your mistaken. I don't take anyone seriously or they me and thats the way i like it.

If you annoyed at me saying clunge well thats sad but i'm the word isn't going anywhere and hopefully neither am I, so i'm afraid you might have to get use to me hunt

The papa also speaks sense, all I said was Alan smith was shit so we will leave it there

Hunter
18-02-2006, 17:55
Jesus mate if you think i took anything you said to heart your mistaken. I don't take anyone seriously or they me and thats the way i like it.

If you annoyed at me saying clunge well thats sad but i'm the word isn't going anywhere and hopefully neither am I, so i'm afraid you might have to get use to me hunt

The papa also speaks sense, all I said was Alan smith was shit so we will leave it there

I know your not going to stop using the word, I was just stating that you over-used it. Hence why it was becoming annoying.
But fair dues mate, its done and dusted.


Carling Cup Final next week, lets just hope we can claim some silverware this season to make up for the FA Cup loss. It is terribly dissapointing losing to Liverpool, but they are a good team. You'd think it would cushion the blow but unfortunately it doesn't. Oh well...

Mambo
18-02-2006, 20:10
BarnDoor fuck off and spam somewhere else, you've wasted a whole page with mindless crap. If you don't have anything relevant to say about the topic, then don't say anything at all.

Jonny2J
18-02-2006, 20:28
i thought he had done enough to stake a claim to a World Cup placeYour kidding right?

Guillermo
18-02-2006, 20:30
Your kidding right?

He should be, while Scott Parker and Michael Carrick are on the prowl.:ninja:

BarnDoor
18-02-2006, 21:14
Mambo, me and Hunt have cleared the air as we both were exchanging our views and although they were heated i know i and hopefully he have forgotten all about it.

So if you please Mambo take your opinions and ram them up your vadge as no one, and i mean no fucking one gives two shits in what you have to say you silly cunt

Hunt as you have nicely rounded the conversation i promise if ever come in this thread again i will refrain from the word Clunge.

Phatmann
19-02-2006, 00:19
Anyone else really worried about our centre midfield now, considering Smith and Scholes will be out for the rest of the season? Richardson and Fletcher in the middle doesn't fill me with confidence, maybe it's time to bring back David Jones if possible considering he's playing very well for a top half eredivisie side. Otherwise, we're gonna have to hope Richardson and Fletcher stay fit, or we're in real trouble. By the way, when's O'Shea back? :mellow:

cmccolgan27
19-02-2006, 00:41
Who is going to play in midfield?
I think its time to give the young guns a go and see what they have got?
what do u think?
there is young kids at united ive heard about for years and they are only 17,18 and 19 years old, i think its there time to play in the premiership and see what these young names have to prove for them selves being on the books for so many years.
Please SAF give them a go, if they cant get the experience theyll never improve.

Phatmann
19-02-2006, 00:43
Who is going to play in midfield?
I think its time to give the young guns a go and see what they have got?
what do u think?
there is young kids at united ive heard about for years and they are only 17,18 and 19 years old, i think its there time to play in the premiership and see what these young names have to prove for them selves being on the books for so many years.
Please SAF give them a go, if they cant get the experience theyll never improve.
But are they good enough to help maintain our league position?

Hunter
19-02-2006, 00:46
We'll soon find out mate. I say give them a shot, I mean we are pretty much fucked in the centre of the park anyway. We might as well give them a reason to play, and they will be hungry for it too so you never know we could find a real gem to play week in week out. Basically, we don't know until we try.

Jonny2J
19-02-2006, 00:47
IMO although you can't fault injuries, Fergie has alot of the blame to harbour due to the fact he should have had ready replacements for Keane in by now, he should have brought someone in like he did with Keane in Robson's latter years

cmccolgan27
19-02-2006, 00:58
Ritchie Jones
David Jones
Darren Gibson
Neumayr

but even rossi could play in the middle or drop rooney back again. And i saw pique play the other day hes great i love the way he moves, great football brain, they did well to poach him. so i rekon he could even come into the middle to?

Phatmann
19-02-2006, 01:09
Nuemayr's gonna be great in the future, but as Jonny said we should've got someone in to replace Keane at some point during the transfer window. By the way, any new news on Mikel? He must be back from the Afican Nations, so where is he currently training? :mellow: cos his contract with us started on the beginning of Feb didn't it?

cmccolgan27
19-02-2006, 01:26
Reality is that the reserves come up against the same players that play in the prem but they are trying to prove a point that they deserve to play in the prem, so all the players are trying harder and more compeditive.
Also how did giggsy scholes beckham keane nevilles make it by being givin the chance, i think its the right time now to do it. Also how does ROSSI not get a game for us or even on the bench. He has scored 21 goals from 18 apps this year and 4 1st team goals. Put him up front with RVN drop rooney into scholesys spot.
this is the team id have at the moment ok with all injurys asw it stands,

-------------VDS----------------
Neville---vidic--Brown-Richardson-
----------Ferdinand-------------
Ronnie-------------------Evra---
-----------Rooney---------------
-------Rossi-----RVN------------


Then you have on the bench,
Howard
Pique
Park
Giggs
Saha

What ya think i feel evra is a natural LM than LWB and i think Richo has found his spot at LWB rather than LM. And GOD help us if Quinton fortune comes back into the team Feck!

cmccolgan27
19-02-2006, 01:48
About Alan Smith,

I'm sorry to say this guys but its about 80 percent chance he will never play again and if he does he will not ever ever be the player he was its the truth I've seen many injuries like this, his passion for the game might get him back to play for a few games. But with these sort of injuries the pain is enormous, every time he gets up to stand the blood will rush into the leg and will be painful also he has dislocated ankle so his ligaments are stuffed aswell look at heinze? If he does even get back on to his feet he WILL have restricted movement in his ankle. And after all the treatment and therapy he will then have to build up his muscles again and get fitness and then he will never make a tackle again cos he will be scared for it to happen again. Expect him back in 2 years or later if ever.

I hope he proves me wrong and comes back and plays well, Ill be praying for you Alan best of luck, Only you can do it.

Ronaldo_is_fat
19-02-2006, 02:15
How did he break his leg? Was it due to the freekick or was it the way in which he fell?

martin_cranie
19-02-2006, 04:47
He fell nastily.

When I was watching it, it looked like nothing at all. It was only with closer analysis that it became apparent he was in very bad shape. I never really liked him, but this injury is terrible. I'd never wish something like this on anyone, so I wish him the best of luck with his recovery.

cmccolgan27
19-02-2006, 11:39
i saw it live and i think he has dived to block the ball and the ball has hit his leg and knocked into a funny position and fell on it and dislocated it but i think straight after a liverpool player stood on his leg, im not positive well im 70 percent sure he did get stood on. they only shopw the replay of him trying to bloke the ball and falling on his leg but they dont show imediatly after him on the ground left his head up and look at his leg and suddenly you see liverpool boot come strait down on his leg and he put his head back down on the pitch.

Guillermo
19-02-2006, 13:05
Good to see United linked with Mascherano in the papers this morning. I think he'd be an awesome buy. We're still being linked with Diarra of Lyon, personally, from what I've seen in the French League, he's not even as good as Tiago, pretty piss poor.

vanNistelrooy
19-02-2006, 15:39
Your kidding right?

Yeh he is, we all know Hargreaves has a "get in the England team free" card.

IMO although you can't fault injuries, Fergie has alot of the blame to harbour due to the fact he should have had ready replacements for Keane in by now, he should have brought someone in like he did with Keane in Robson's latter years

I think that the calibar of midfielder SAF wants to bring in are still at a team in Europe. Can't see them leaving their club knowing they've got a chance of winning the CL. Should be interesting to see who he does bring in.

Reality is that the reserves come up against the same players that play in the prem but they are trying to prove a point that they deserve to play in the prem, so all the players are trying harder and more compeditive.
Also how did giggsy scholes beckham keane nevilles make it by being givin the chance, i think its the right time now to do it. Also how does ROSSI not get a game for us or even on the bench. He has scored 21 goals from 18 apps this year and 4 1st team goals. Put him up front with RVN drop rooney into scholesys spot.
this is the team id have at the moment ok with all injurys asw it stands,

-------------VDS----------------
Neville---vidic--Brown-Richardson-
----------Ferdinand-------------
Ronnie-------------------Evra---
-----------Rooney---------------
-------Rossi-----RVN------------


Then you have on the bench,
Howard
Pique
Park
Giggs
Saha

What ya think i feel evra is a natural LM than LWB and i think Richo has found his spot at LWB rather than LM. And GOD help us if Quinton fortune comes back into the team Feck!

---------------------------van der Sar----------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------------------
--Neville------------Rio-------------------Wes----------------Silvestre--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------Fletcher------------------------------------
--Ronaldo-------------------------------------------------------Giggs--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------Rooney-------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------van Nistelrooy------Saha------------------------------

executioner
19-02-2006, 16:05
who saw chris eagles score for watford yesterday?
winger
from manchester
who scores from the half way line
interesting....

Phatmann
19-02-2006, 16:13
i saw it live and i think he has dived to block the ball and the ball has hit his leg and knocked into a funny position and fell on it and dislocated it but i think straight after a liverpool player stood on his leg, im not positive well im 70 percent sure he did get stood on. they only shopw the replay of him trying to bloke the ball and falling on his leg but they dont show imediatly after him on the ground left his head up and look at his leg and suddenly you see liverpool boot come strait down on his leg and he put his head back down on the pitch.
I think that was Riise who stepped on him.

Jonny2J
19-02-2006, 16:51
Yeh he is, we all know Hargreaves has a "get in the England team free" card.



I think that the calibar of midfielder SAF wants to bring in are still at a team in Europe. Can't see them leaving their club knowing they've got a chance of winning the CL. Should be interesting to see who he does bring in.
I'm not just on about recently mate someone to replace Keane should have been brought in a good year and a half ago in my eyes

Guillermo
19-02-2006, 16:55
I'm not just on about recently mate someone to replace Keane should have been brought in a good year and a half ago in my eyes

Well according to Sir Al, Liam Miller was supposed to be the next Keane. Not taking into account that they don't even play in the same position.

Phatmann
19-02-2006, 16:57
Well according to Sir Al, Liam Miller was supposed to be the next Keane. Not taking into account that they don't even play in the same position.
And Miller was so good that he's now on loan to Leeds :mellow:

vanNistelrooy
19-02-2006, 18:24
I'm not just on about recently mate someone to replace Keane should have been brought in a good year and a half ago in my eyes

I can see where you're coming from, but if we were to have bought in someone with enough quality to replace Keane back then, I don't think someone that good would have liked warming the bench for a couple of seasons.

And Miller was so good that he's now on loan to Leeds :mellow:

Miller was class for Celtic, SAF just forgot that was the Scottish league, which Kleberson and Djemba-Djemba wouldn't look out of place in.

cmccolgan27
20-02-2006, 08:30
we need a player like smith who can be a playmaker and set things up with there passing, Fletcher was to be this so called player in SAF eyes but he cant pass a ball he does try but his best efforts for man utd are behind him he played well against wigan in the FA cup but thats it, i think he likes to be out on the right and not in the middle.

i feel that we should be buying either from scandinavia or from south america
heres a list i like to see shop with,

Kim Kallstrom, about 24 SWE
Left footed, Great passer, playmaker, good shot from distance, Awesome free kick taker.

MG Pederson, Well i dont have to say much about him u no what he is like

Blasi, italy about 25 a real enforcer plays in the middle, and could be snatched for next to niks.

Rosicky is out of contract in the summer too.

Deigo Lugano, great player for sao paolo has played in europe and like to be on the ball alla RIO oh hes a central defender tho?

cicinho Real Madrid i shouted his praises 2 years ago, but he is playing for real LOL so no chance now, but an ideal replacement for Gary Nevile.

macherano, been a good player for boca when ive seen him but i havnt seen boca play 4 a while now and dont no if he is there still

Schweinsteiger Enthusiasm, determination, creativity

deco maybe to old for the young red devil movement

Pablo Garcia from real madrid i love him hes great to watch he does well he get on the ball and doesnt panic even if some one is traking him in middfield he uses his body well and sheilds the ball and holds it and looks for options, we need a player like this to control the game, to give us a chance to get into atttacking possies, he is about 28 29 could do for a couple tho,

i believe united will sign 2 known players and 2 players that play well in the world cup, I believe the first will Be a player like Masherano from ARG, and the other will be one of the following Kim Kallstrom, Rosicky (free Trans), schwienstieger and outsider M'bam.

cmccolgan27
20-02-2006, 11:11
buy far the best player we could get would be a guy called Garcia Sergio he plays for Real Zaragoza, awesome player he is a young totti. great play maker. Used to play for Barca but never got a go, he has been injured tho this season but last season 8 from 28 appearences. he has a bit of scholes/ronaldo about him.

Born: June 9, 1983
Birthplace: N/A
Height: 1.75m
Weight: 72 kg

Akineye
20-02-2006, 15:28
As FA Cup games go this was one we didn't want to lose, but like most reds I'd gladly finish second rather than third and that has to take priority. A needless game qualifying, so soon after players are involved in the World Cup, and it does nobody any good for the season. Add to that the expense...

Still it hurts losing. Not that we didn't deserve to. They had the best midfielder on the park by a mile. 'That's not hard' you might think, given we didn't have any, but Gerrard ensured we rarely troubled Liverpool. That they did similar, is down to their attacking options being hoof it to the freak, something we allowed to work just the once. Until the second half, it was one more option than we had though.

Saha saw a general United improvement, Giggs did his best and showed flashes of inspiration you expect from a midfield, but generall United were second best, and you can't expect to come to Anfield and win, with the personnel in midfield we had. No matter how well Giggs did given it's not his position.

Off the pitch and inside the stadium the return of the pure hatred we saw in the eighties was back. Liverpool fans sang 'who's that dying' and made constant references to Munich; celebrated Smith's broken leg; shat in cups and threw it into our end; generally spat and chucked coins.

United fans sick of the taunts responded accordingly. Dead rats went over. Coins returned. As for the faeces? That had hit a poor woman steward so I guess the own goal made for some irony. There was also the returning chants. 'Murderers', 'you killed your own', and '96' not being 'enough'. Some reds sang in reference to the 1996 cup final win, completing the double not being good enough, and wanting more success - others I think were referring to a far darker motive. Whatever, the taboos of old went out of the window.

After the game the police had it boxed off for the normal match going fan to have a bit of a box to get rid of some quite deeply felt hatred on both sides. Pity, for it would have led to a far more interesting match than the dull asinie affairs these two sides have served up three times this season.

As for Smith? My heart goes out to the lad. We'll definitely miss his combative presence in the side, which is something that has been completely absent in recent weeks. Hope he can recover as quickly as possible.

An honourbale mention to Rio and O'Shea, who watched the game in the away end - even lead a couple of chants at the end whilst we were being held behind.

Guillermo
23-02-2006, 12:26
Manchester United and Liverpool have issued a joint statement condemning the fans who attacked the ambulance taking Alan Smith to hospital at the weekend.
Smith, 25, suffered a broken leg and a dislocated ankle during United's 1-0 FA Cup defeat at Anfield.

The clubs' statement read: "These people aren't real fans of football.

"The actions of a few idiots should not overshadow the efforts of all involved to make sure Alan received the best treatment as soon as possible."

Reports in several newspapers on Thursday claimed the ambulance was surrounded by people who threw stones and bottles at it and even tried to rock it from side to side.

The two paramedics - both Liverpool fans - were described as being "horrified" by the hostility shown once the culprits realised the occupants of the ambulance were Alan Smith and Manchester United's club doctor Mike Stone.

A spokesman for the Merseyside ambulance trust confirmed the attack: "It did not result in any delay in transferring the player to hospital but the trust cannot condone this type of behaviour while administering emergency treatment."

Smith, who later underwent surgery on the injury, was given a general anaesthetic before he left the stadium so was not aware of the attack on the ambulance.

Les Lawson, secretary of the Merseyside branch of the official Liverpool Supporters' Club, told BBC Radio Five Live: "The Liverpool supporters who were actually inside the ground gave Alan Smith a standing ovation as he left the field.

"As far as I am concerned, the people who attacked the ambulance are not genuine Liverpool supporters because you just don't do that sort of thing.

"You never know when you are going to need the paramedics yourself or for a member of your family, so how would they feel if mindless idiots came out and tried to shake an ambulance and throw missiles.

"These are just not genuine football fans. Words just fail you really.

"I don't think the relationship between the two sets of fans will ever improve really because there is a great rivalry and the fans just don't like each other," he added.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/4742360.stm

Disgusting.

Phatmann
23-02-2006, 17:35
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/4742360.stm

Disgusting.
I read this earlier, what a bunch o' wankers

BarnDoor
23-02-2006, 17:39
Why would the Utd fans attack Smith Ambulance though? Could maybe the scousers and Mancs been fighting and the Ambulance got caught up in the aggro? Either way its pretty fucking horrible. Maybe the United lads got stuck in once they saw Liverpool attacking the Ambulance? I can't understand why the Utd fans would attack their own player, it doesn't make much sense.

Guillermo
23-02-2006, 18:07
Why would the Utd fans attack Smith Ambulance though? Could maybe the scousers and Mancs been fighting and the Ambulance got caught up in the aggro? Either way its pretty fucking horrible. Maybe the United lads got stuck in once they saw Liverpool attacking the Ambulance? I can't understand why the Utd fans would attack their own player, it doesn't make much sense.

The United fans didn't attack it....

Lord Shrimpeh
25-02-2006, 18:16
This place is looking a bit dull recently. Champions league week blues for Man U fans probably.

Anyway, what do you people think of the final tomorrow?

I really hope we win, but we'll get a tough game.

vanNistelrooy
25-02-2006, 19:41
Will be a close game. Wigan are no pushovers, as they did get this far. I was going to say "beating Arsenal on their way", but that's no big feat nowadays.

Phatmann
25-02-2006, 22:33
I'm looking forward to the final, but as we have no Scholes or Smith, this isn't gonna be easy to win.

Singh
25-02-2006, 23:52
No ruud to start either by the looks of it, saha and rooney starters.

Phatmann
26-02-2006, 00:03
No ruud to start either by the looks of it, saha and rooney starters.
Uh-oh :shocking:

Viperized
26-02-2006, 00:15
I was going to say "beating Arsenal on their way", but that's no big feat nowadays.
Our season has been cursed with injuries k.

Jonny2J
26-02-2006, 00:17
Our season has been cursed with injuries k.I was wondering what Graeme Souness was upto nowadays.....

AgentZero
26-02-2006, 09:53
i don't expect wigan to be easy push-overs but confident in a (at least 2 Goals) 2-1 scoreline in favour of United.

vanNistelrooy
26-02-2006, 10:46
I was wondering what Graeme Souness was upto nowadays.....

:lol:

Guillermo
26-02-2006, 16:44
4-0. Not bad. :shocking:

Same as league game.

Estill
26-02-2006, 16:45
United! United!

Wes Brown was awesome. Typical Rooney performance aswell.

BarnDoor
26-02-2006, 17:03
As good as United were, Wigan were fucking awful. Bullard, Kavanagh, Chimbonda and Baines were woeful and as for Roberts and camara, they don't pass, are ball greedy and couldn't hit a cow's arse with a plane wing. Although i hate Utd i wanted them to get 6 or 7 which they probably could have if they carried on in the vein they started in just because Wigan were so bad and their shitness was pissing me off.

One team turned up today and had won the game as soon as it kicked off

Please no one say "Well Wigan tried their best..." because you will be lying to yourself. If i was there i would have booed them to my throat was sore and thrown my own shit at them they were that bad

vanNistelrooy
26-02-2006, 17:04
Will be a close game. Wigan are no pushovers, as they did get this far. I was going to say "beating Arsenal on their way", but that's no big feat nowadays.

Maybe I was wrong! :tongue:

UNITED, UNITED!

Joel
26-02-2006, 17:08
Congrats to Man U.

Well deserved victory.

Phatmann
26-02-2006, 17:36
Has Paul Jewell scored a goal against us yet? (as a manager) cos he lost twice 4-0 with Bradford, and 4-0 again this season with Wigan. But didn't Bradford have 2 seasons in the prem, so what were the scores in the other 2?

Yossi
26-02-2006, 17:38
They said early on in the game at 0-0 than Jewell had managed against Man Utd three times before and lost 4-0 each time. So now it's four games, four 4-0 defeats.

Lord Shrimpeh
26-02-2006, 17:39
Excellent game for United. I know people say this cup is worthless, but if Chelsea continue to dominate the premiership then I think it's going to start to be more contested.

After all, for 95% of the teams in the premiership winning it would make their decade.

Phatmann
26-02-2006, 17:43
Ahhh, I just checked, and I didn't realise that Jewell resigned after keeping Bradford in the premiership.

Papa Lazarou
26-02-2006, 20:40
Great result today! Wes Brown was superb in the defence, did nothing wrong all match. Rooney was also great up front as was Saha who thoughroughly deserved his place in the starting line up and proved it by getting a goal

Akineye
28-02-2006, 15:52
It was almost certainly our last ever visit to Cardiff, and though the trip home was a long one, a good day was had by all... well perhaps not the half empty Wigan end....

Much was said following the game at the fact that Ruud didn't look happy. Whether or not he 'deserved' a run out as sub, and an opportunity to get a medal, is I guess debatable, though Evra and Vidic being the newbies probably had less of a shout. But the fact is Ruud doesn't play in this competition, he is saved for bigger games, and the fact we haven't any left shouldn't distract from the fact Saha has done well enough recently to deserve the place ahead of him, in this competition at least. Ruud, we love you, we glad you wanted to play, sorry for you you didn't, but get on with it you're not bigger than the club.

That the Ruud 'sulk' was given as much air time as it was said much for the one-sidedness of the game. Wigan, for one reasaon or another, were never really in the game, and for once we were at complete ease when the floodgates initially didn't open. Against some teams, you know that you'll be punished sooner or later if you don't score or kill a game when you've the chance. Against Wigan, twice this season so far, it's just not been an issue. They've done well in their first top flight year, but they've a stretch to go as yet to be a real force.

Now just watch them beat us 1-0 next week, taking a more important three points off us than this cup win could ever be.

Now not everyone will agree to that - but be honest, finishing second is no longer 'nowhere' and in reality could make our season 06/07. Without World Cup players for the preliminary Champions League, we've no longer a squad that wouldn't struggle against any other qualifier, and not to reach the initial group stages would be a real possibility.

Cardiff was nice, the drink before the game a pleasure, the game enjoyable, and the silverware better than anything city have managed in thirty years. But the win is not in the same league as the one we're trying to finish runners-up in.

In other news... Barca are supposedly going to play at OT to open the extended 76,000 capacity stadium before the new Premiership season begins on 19 August.

Yorke looks set to return to United, to train with us before captaining Trinidad and Tobago in the World Cup.

And also a Liverpool player has been investigated for alleged racist abuse during our Premiership win at Old Trafford.

AgentZero
01-03-2006, 07:29
Now just watch them beat us 1-0 next week, taking a more important three points off us than this cup win could ever be.

so what you're saying is my friend you would ratehr lose in a cup final rather than lose in a premiership game....bti silly dont you think...id rahter we end up with silverware rather than silver

and all your talk of not qualifying for europe is rather BS...even if say we do finnsih third and have to qualify, im pretty sure the UEFA will move its dates for teh world cup.

Akineye
01-03-2006, 09:45
so what you're saying is my friend you would ratehr lose in a cup final rather than lose in a premiership game....bti silly dont you think...id rahter we end up with silverware rather than silver

Finishing second in the league comes far higher on my list of priorities than winning the league cup. Fair enough, it's always nice to win a trophy, and it was a great day out, but finishing second in the league, especially given Chewsea's dominance and our decline finishing second is no longer a 'nowhere' finish.

Add to that a difficult European tie played without our best players, who will have been on World Cup duty, and I think no red in their right mind would pick league cup success over qualification for the Champions League.

Akineye
02-03-2006, 19:02
From Red Issue: Outrage as United steal from supporters. Blame for the League Cup final tickets shambles has largely been attributed to postal strikes in Northern Ireland but many Reds from elsewhere were affected too.

Unlike Wigan, United refused to send tickets out by registered/recorded delivery (clearly the extra 3% levy isn't enough to cover this) and many supporters didn't receive theirs, which created problems given that the Millennium Stadium have stopped issuing duplicates on the day of the game.

United were informed that this was the case weeks and weeks ago but continued to lie to supporters all last week saying that duplicates would be sorted by Friday. With Reds having paid for tickets and travel United then had to admit that no duplicates would be issued, but accepted no responsibility for the tickets not having turned up and refused to issue refunds. This despite the fact that United had no record of ever posting the tickets and therefore the Post Office had no liability for any missing items. Still, good ol' United could offer supporters who could afford it the chance to purchase another ticket at a mere £72 each.


United maintain that no refunds will be offered to fans who are out of pocket - which is in clear breach of law governing purchase of goods which aren't supplied, not to mention horrendous customer service. No doubt the £7000 stolen by United from its supporters in this way will be most welcome to the Glazers, but United don't have a leg to stand on legally and some supporters are set to launch a group action to recoup their losses.


Anyone looking to join this should contact redissue@btinternet.com or comms@imusa.org


Meanwhile Brian Lashley at the Evening News says if there are any aggrieved fans who wish to report in to him, he will do a story on Friday for Saturday's paper and take the issue to the club and to Cardiff/the League. Contact RI for his phone number.

Lord Shrimpeh
06-03-2006, 22:24
Too much money grabbing in Man Utd, that's what upsets me about the club.

Anyway, win today. Lucky but still. And why was Van da Man left on the bench? SAF said the cup final was because he was afraid Saha would leave... but surely better he leaves than Van Nistlerooy!!

vanNistelrooy
06-03-2006, 22:34
Still, he leaves Ruud out, brings him on at the right time, and we win 2-1. I'm not arguing.

Papa Lazarou
06-03-2006, 22:59
lucky win for us tonight. Should have played Ruud really but who cares, we got the win. Am i the only one concerned that we haven't given our newbies a good enough chance yet. I mean we brought Evra in because we didnt have a good left back and he doesn't even play!!!

Phatmann
06-03-2006, 23:01
If Ruud had started I don't think we would've gone behind and struggled so much throughout the game. Why leave the premierships top scorer on the bench when he was already rested for the cup final? :mellow: Oh well, at least we won the game by the skin of our teeth, and in no way did we actually deserve to win at all :no: It was probably also something to do with the central midfield pairing of Ryan Giggs and John O'Shea...need I say more :huh:

Kemmel
06-03-2006, 23:05
By sweet fuck we was lucky tonight. Any other team would have fucked us the way we defended.

Dan
06-03-2006, 23:07
Chimbonda you silly silly man :no: pretty much his fault for both goals, and yas have a game in hand. :no:

Kemmel
07-03-2006, 00:40
Chimbonda you silly silly man :no: pretty much his fault for both goals, and yas have a game in hand. :no:

Almost forgot to thank him!

Akineye
08-03-2006, 19:25
Ole's season looks to be over....again.

Ole's desperate fight to win back a first team place at United looks over not just for this season but for good, after a challenge from Ugo Ehiogu of Middlesbrough left him with a broken cheekbone.

Ole's recovery period is expected to be about six weeks, but given that he will then have to find 'match fitness', it's unlikely that he'll play again this season. With his contract due to expire come July, it's unlikely therefore we will ever see him in the red of United again.

How sad is that.

dee-dee
08-03-2006, 20:27
Benfica have taken the lead against 'Pool. Simao. How ironic.

Papa Lazarou
08-03-2006, 21:01
yay for Liverpools losing

Boo for Oles injury, he's so unlucky...all i want is Ole back to play!!

vanNistelrooy
09-03-2006, 20:35
Ole's season looks to be over....again.

Ole's desperate fight to win back a first team place at United looks over not just for this season but for good, after a challenge from Ugo Ehiogu of Middlesbrough left him with a broken cheekbone.

Ole's recovery period is expected to be about six weeks, but given that he will then have to find 'match fitness', it's unlikely that he'll play again this season. With his contract due to expire come July, it's unlikely therefore we will ever see him in the red of United again.

How sad is that.

I can see us offering him another year. It's the least he deserves.

dee-dee
09-03-2006, 20:40
I can see us offering him another year. It's the least he deserves.
Maybe in a sentimental sense, but not in a business sense. The Glazers may not take kindly to having to continue to pay thousands of pounds to a player who has hardly played a game in the past 2 years, but I hope they do.

Singh
09-03-2006, 21:07
He will probably be on a pay as you play contract next season.

vanNistelrooy
11-03-2006, 19:24
How does everyone think we'll do tomorrow? If Ruud starts, I fancy him getting on the scoresheet.

With Ruud: 2-0
Without Ruud: 3-1 (Rooney hat-trick :))

Hunter
11-03-2006, 22:11
He will probably be on a pay as you play contract next season.

Hes getting a new contract I know thats for sure, not sure whether it will be a full contract or pay as you play like you suggested.

Manchester United 2 - 1 Newcastle

Guillermo
11-03-2006, 22:17
I think it will be a tough game tomorrow. Newcastle are no walkover at the moment, United to scrape it 1-0.

Yossi
11-03-2006, 22:29
Spurs line up £7m bid for Ruud van Nistelrooy (http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2006110611,00.html).

He is worth far more than £7m.
Man Utd won't let him go.
He won't go to Spurs, even if they do qualify for the Champions League.

Stupid story.

Keyser Soze
11-03-2006, 22:31
Spurs line up £7m bid for Ruud van Nistelrooy (http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2006110611,00.html).

He is worth far more than £7m.
Man Utd won't let him go.
He won't go to Spurs, even if they do qualify for the Champions League.

Stupid story.
Haha, pathetic story.

At very least, 15m, it's only fair a striker who can guarantee you over 20 goals a season.

GuyP
11-03-2006, 22:34
Yeah...but if he's unhappy...

AgentZero
11-03-2006, 22:54
oh he'll get over it
if SAF lets him go for that amount...i call for a new manager...one who doesnt act like a child

Phatmann
11-03-2006, 23:05
Man U 1-0 Newcastle is my prediction. Probably an 80th minute pen or something, I can't see this being an easy game really.

AgentZero
11-03-2006, 23:09
so phatmann whats your reaction to Ole being sidelined for a year again...?

Phatmann
11-03-2006, 23:12
so phatmann whats your reaction to Ole being sidelined for a year again...?
:crymore:
That's pretty much all I can say :(

But, at least it's not his knee again, as that would've definitely been the end for him (even though it probably is now anyways :( )

AgentZero
11-03-2006, 23:15
he's 32.....haven't played 3 consec games in 3 years..im sorry but i think it was the end of him on his 2nd knee injury.
they say he'll be offered a 6 month pay as you play contract....which is fair go...but idoubt he'll scrape into 1st XI

Jonny2J
11-03-2006, 23:53
Although we normally get a good hiding a fancy a tight game tomorow, probably because we have a better midfield and Emre and Nobby can slow the game down

Rasheed Sharq
12-03-2006, 00:07
When will Ole return? Really sidelined for another year? You have to feel for him. :crymore:

Gary G
12-03-2006, 00:24
I think it will be the usual story, we contain Man Utd for around the first 60-70 minutes, make a game of it, but then we eventually concede and you end up winning comfortably, won't surprise me if that's what happens.

Like Jonny says, the midfield battle this afternoon will be interesting, Emre and Parker have a very good chance of winning their personal duels, and Nobby has bene bang on form recently.

The main problem I can foresee with regards to the midfield is that Ronaldo and Giggs will get the better of Rmage/Babayaro, meaning they are going to see a lot of the ball, cutting out the centre of midfield, leaving Emre and Parker rather isolated.

Hunter
12-03-2006, 00:32
so phatmann whats your reaction to Ole being sidelined for a year again...?

Have I missed something ? Last I heard a fractured cheekbone requires between a range of recovery from 4 - 8 weeks. Theres over 50 weeks in a year, has something happened to his knees again ?

Prediction:

United 2 (Ruud 2)
Noocastle 1 (Shearer)

Phatmann
12-03-2006, 00:49
Have I missed something ? Last I heard a fractured cheekbone requires between a range of recovery from 4 - 8 weeks. Theres over 50 weeks in a year, has something happened to his knees again ?

Prediction:

United 2 (Ruud 2)
Noocastle 1 (Shearer)
I think he meant that he's out for the rest of the season, and I think his contract is running out soon, so I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't play for us ever again :(

AgentZero
12-03-2006, 01:50
Have I missed something ? Last I heard a fractured cheekbone requires between a range of recovery from 4 - 8 weeks. Theres over 50 weeks in a year, has something happened to his knees again ?

Prediction:

United 2 (Ruud 2)
Noocastle 1 (Shearer)

nahyou got me wrong mate.....he's not going to return this season so he's yet again on the sideline for teh conclusion of this campaign

Ronaldo_is_fat
12-03-2006, 04:36
Wondering how Hotspur got all those money?

vanNistelrooy
12-03-2006, 13:03
:realmad: NO Ruud again!:realmad:

BarnDoor
12-03-2006, 14:28
I think it will be a tough game tomorrow. Newcastle are no walkover at the moment, United to scrape it 1-0.


Yeah mate, it won't be a walk over at all. When it finishes 10-0 i'm sure we can all say it was tough match

Guillermo
12-03-2006, 15:14
Well it is only 2-0....;)

If Ruud leaves at the end of the season I'm going to piss on Fergie, literally.

Phatmann
12-03-2006, 15:54
Surprisingly we walked all over newcastle (even though we only won 2-0).

Saha played crap, I don't know why fergie has persisted on playing him instead of Ruud for the last 3 games :huh: John O'Shea played well and Rooney was great once again.

Lord Shrimpeh
12-03-2006, 16:47
How does everyone think we'll do tomorrow? If Ruud starts, I fancy him getting on the scoresheet.

With Ruud: 2-0
Without Ruud: 3-1 (Rooney hat-trick :))

Not far off :p

Hunter
12-03-2006, 18:28
I think he meant that he's out for the rest of the season, and I think his contract is running out soon, so I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't play for us ever again :(

Hes getting a new contract I know thats for sure, not sure whether it will be a full contract or pay as you play like you suggested. However I'm positive they were talking about it on MUTV and said he will be offered one.

Good match today. Rooney was excellent as always, Saha was awful. If he doesn't favour Ruud or Saha next week then something is certainly wrong.

Phatmann
12-03-2006, 18:50
Good match today. Rooney was excellent as always, Saha was awful. If he doesn't favour Ruud or Saha next week then something is certainly wrong.
Yes. Fergie said that he chose the same team that beat Wigan, as he didn't want to change a winning team, but the only reason we won really was cos Ruud came off the bench and set up Ronaldo to score the first goal. If Ruud had started we probably would'nt have left it to the last minute to win by an o.g.

Leaving the top scorer in the league on the bench when he's not injured or unfit is not on though. Something must've happened behind the scenes.

vanNistelrooy
12-03-2006, 19:32
Not far off :p

He should of got a hat-trick!

Good game, but we've got to take more of our chances. We'll play better teams like that, and if we miss as many chances as we did today we'll get punished.

If Ruud had started, it would have been about 4-0 by half time.

AgentZero
12-03-2006, 19:46
finally a match that we totally dominated.....im starting to see why SAF prefers Saha over ruud, i think saha adds a new dimension in attack with his speed, but yet again awful display...well were guranteed 2nd now since gerrards mistake.
But if he plays no Ruud against Arsenal we all piss on fergie or his car at least

Guillermo
12-03-2006, 19:50
im starting to see why SAF prefers Saha over ruud, i think saha adds a new dimension in attack with his speed
Behave.

AgentZero
12-03-2006, 19:51
yes mother

vanNistelrooy
12-03-2006, 20:07
Guaranteed 2nd place? How did you work that out? Almost as stupid as the press saying Chelsea only need 5 more wins. If they calculated it properly, they'll see they need 5 wins and a draw.

After last year, I wouldn't go around saying we're guaranteed 2nd.

AgentZero
12-03-2006, 20:16
your a bit pesimistic aren't you....well wed have to have a shite game agains west ham, west brom and birmingham an dthen lose to arsenal to conceed 2nd....were a game up and 5 points ahead

vanNistelrooy
12-03-2006, 20:18
Don't start blabbering about us finishing second. Stranger things have happened.

Gary G
12-03-2006, 20:57
finally a match that we totally dominated.....im starting to see why SAF prefers Saha over ruud, i think saha adds a new dimension in attack with his speed, but yet again awful display...well were guranteed 2nd now since gerrards mistake.
But if he plays no Ruud against Arsenal we all piss on fergie or his car at least

If Saha didn't have square boots on it could have been much worse for us today.

Truly pathetic performance from us today, I cited the midfield as a key factor going into the match, and it was, we were overran in the middle of the park.

The scoreline most certainly did not reflect how the match went, we just didn't show, thoroughly dissapointiong.

Oh, Shola and Boumsong can fuck off, useless the pair of them.

Akineye
13-03-2006, 17:21
Have you come across a bigger load of utter twats that turned up at Old Trafford to 'support' their team as we frankly played the poorest Newcastle side for a decade or two off the Old Trafford park? Maybe Liverpool and Leeds, but that goes with the territory.

I have to begin by mentioning the complete and utter sad deluded half wits that in the name of Newcastle football club jumped off their coaches early and abused straight women and children in a way that can only be described as cowardly. When confronted by equally straight football goers of the male kind, the torrent of abuse, munich orientated and totally misinformed abuse whist friends 'held them back' took us back to an age of the hooliganism that saw innocents caught up in fights they neither wanted or agreed with.

These days lads look out for lads, and everybody is happy. Unless of course you come up against neanderthal Geordies wearing team shirts too small. Maybe that's why some removed them.

It's with great pleasure then we killed the game and enjoyment for them with two early strikes. Rooney is on fire, and but for a bad day actually finishing the chances he creates he would have broken the Premiership record of five set by our Andrew Cole against Ipswich. His day will come.

As a performance it was as good as we've had for a while. With Giggs the creative one in midfield, O'Shea man marked and spoilt which worked a treat. With Saha's movement and Rooney's guile working so well, the scoreline could have been rather more than the two it was by half time, and though Newcastle did better second half, they created little and never made a game of a match that was over inside the first fifteen minutes.

Again Ruud started on the bench, and we all sit wondering what his reaction will be come the seasons end. As the top scorer in the country, to find yourself 'dropped' must be a real kick in the teeth, but you have to praise Saha for all but his finishing. That said it's still strange we can't accomodate the best finisher in the Premiership, even if his movement isn't as good as the present incumbent centre forward. One look at Park, and the strangeness of the situation takes an even more sinister look.

Gary G
13-03-2006, 18:54
Have you come across a bigger load of utter twats that turned up at Old Trafford to 'support' their team as we frankly played the poorest Newcastle side for a decade or two off the Old Trafford park? Maybe Liverpool and Leeds, but that goes with the territory.

I have to begin by mentioning the complete and utter sad deluded half wits that in the name of Newcastle football club jumped off their coaches early and abused straight women and children in a way that can only be described as cowardly. When confronted by equally straight football goers of the male kind, the torrent of abuse, munich orientated and totally misinformed abuse whist friends 'held them back' took us back to an age of the hooliganism that saw innocents caught up in fights they neither wanted or agreed with.

These days lads look out for lads, and everybody is happy. Unless of course you come up against neanderthal Geordies wearing team shirts too small. Maybe that's why some removed them.

It's with great pleasure then we killed the game and enjoyment for them with two early strikes. Rooney is on fire, and but for a bad day actually finishing the chances he creates he would have broken the Premiership record of five set by our Andrew Cole against Ipswich. His day will come.

As a performance it was as good as we've had for a while. With Giggs the creative one in midfield, O'Shea man marked and spoilt which worked a treat. With Saha's movement and Rooney's guile working so well, the scoreline could have been rather more than the two it was by half time, and though Newcastle did better second half, they created little and never made a game of a match that was over inside the first fifteen minutes.

Again Ruud started on the bench, and we all sit wondering what his reaction will be come the seasons end. As the top scorer in the country, to find yourself 'dropped' must be a real kick in the teeth, but you have to praise Saha for all but his finishing. That said it's still strange we can't accomodate the best finisher in the Premiership, even if his movement isn't as good as the present incumbent centre forward. One look at Park, and the strangeness of the situation takes an even more sinister look.

http://manchesterunited.rivals.net/default.asp?sid=891&p=2&stid=8405644

So you're Steve, then?

GuyP
13-03-2006, 19:03
:laugh: Busted...you stupid half-witted bastard! How can you complain about support? He scored two and you believe he was close to scoring 5? Utter...gimp.

Gary G
13-03-2006, 19:06
Was a genuine question like, he may be that Steve.

Rooney should have had 3 like, the chance when he hit the post should have been put away, don't know about 6 though.

GuyP
13-03-2006, 19:08
Precisely...even if you have all the chances in the world, you cannot claim that someone who scores 2 nearly got six in a professional fanzine.

Gary G
13-03-2006, 19:15
Rooney had 11 shots on goal, 2 were on target.

Akineye
13-03-2006, 21:30
http://manchesterunited.rivals.net/default.asp?sid=891&p=2&stid=8405644

So you're Steve, then?

Actually no. I write for UWS though, and I've posted a few articles in this thread without thinking anything of it. I know Steve wouldn't mind- probably would have been safer to quote it.

How can you complain about support?

What are you talking about?

GuyP
13-03-2006, 22:13
Have you come across a bigger load of utter twats

I don't know where i ever got the impression that you were complaining about our support (?)

Akineye
14-03-2006, 07:26
I don't know where i ever got the impression that you were complaining about our support (?)

I was talking about why you said 'how can YOU complain about support?' as though there's some sort of rule that United fans shouldn't complain about some neandarthal fuckwit geordies.

I dunno if you were there on Sunday, but if you weren't, you really can't defend your fans as you knew nothing about them, or what they did.

Also, I'm not lumping all geordies into this category, but the away fans on sunday were an absoloute disgrace.

Precisely...even if you have all the chances in the world, you cannot claim that someone who scores 2 nearly got six in a professional fanzine.

What the fuck are you talking about? Rooney tore you apart. If he had been half as apt at finishing his chances as he was at creating them, then he would have scored far more. He could have had a hatrick inside the first 25 minutes.

Stella Artois
14-03-2006, 09:18
It’s with great pleasure then we killed the game and enjoyment for them with two early strikes. Rooney is on fire, and but for a bad day actually finishing the chances he creates he would have broken the Premiership record of five set by our Andrew Cole against Ipswich. His day will come.

Yes, that’s now two his scored this year (since January). Talk about being on fire. :rolleyes:

Oh and why did you feel the need to steal someone else’s work?

AgentZero
15-03-2006, 00:34
he may not score a lot of goals but he is infleuntial, Ronaldo is someone whos onfire and scoring goals

Singh
15-03-2006, 14:56
RUUD VAN NISTELROOY has told family his time is up at Manchester United.
The Dutch hitman’s brother Ron broke the news to a supporter in a pub before Sunday’s 2-0 home win over Newcastle.

The fan said: “When I asked ‘Is he off?’ Ron looked at me and said ‘It looks like he no longer has a future at Old Trafford, sadly’. In the past he has always played down any suggestion that Ruud was going. But this time it was different.”

Ron is well known among staunch United fans, who he prefers to mix with rather than take advantage of VIP hospitality.

SunSport revealed on Saturday that Tottenham are ready to pounce with a £7million summer bid.

But Italian giants AC Milan and AS Roma are also keen.

Van Nistelrooy has accepted his fate as he and United boss Alex Ferguson are hardly on speaking terms.

Hunter
15-03-2006, 16:22
RUUD VAN NISTELROOY has told family his time is up at Manchester United.
The Dutch hitman’s brother Ron broke the news to a supporter in a pub before Sunday’s 2-0 home win over Newcastle.

The fan said: “When I asked ‘Is he off?’ Ron looked at me and said ‘It looks like he no longer has a future at Old Trafford, sadly’. In the past he has always played down any suggestion that Ruud was going. But this time it was different.”

Ron is well known among staunch United fans, who he prefers to mix with rather than take advantage of VIP hospitality.

SunSport revealed on Saturday that Tottenham are ready to pounce with a £7million summer bid.

But Italian giants AC Milan and AS Roma are also keen.

Van Nistelrooy has accepted his fate as he and United boss Alex Ferguson are hardly on speaking terms.

I know there is a chance he will leave in the summer but I'm not going to believe this without a reliable source. I know Ruud's brother is reliable enough, but the only word we have is of some blokes in the same pub. After all, this conversation may not have even happened, it could just be people stirring shit.

Its obvious that Ruud and Fergie have fell out but surely as professionals they can over come it. However if Ruud is forced out by Fergie then I'm afraid Fergie's head could be on a mantle. The only thing that could worry me about Fergie getting the sack is Rooney and his developing. Hmmm... maybe Martin O'Neil.

Akineye
15-03-2006, 18:00
Yes, that’s now two his scored this year (since January). Talk about being on fire. :rolleyes:


Those two against Wigan at Cardiff weren't proper goals then, obv.

Besides, even in the league he's been immense, so fuck if he hasn't scored, he's been the catalyst for some superb performances in a chastening couple of years.

GuyP
15-03-2006, 22:12
In the prem obviously...Milan dont need him and Roma aren't good enough (in my opinion) but a team like Inter or Real (they dont need him but would that stop them?) should be favorites. Spurs linked with them but that is probably just for the craic.

Jonny2J
16-03-2006, 01:29
Those two against Wigan at Cardiff weren't proper goals then, obv.

Besides, even in the league he's been immense, so fuck if he hasn't scored, he's been the catalyst for some superb performances in a chastening couple of years.People tend to forget Rooney has carried Man Yoo at times this season and all this despite his position being fucked over on numerous occasions

AgentZero
16-03-2006, 03:13
I know there is a chance he will leave in the summer but I'm not going to believe this without a reliable source. I know Ruud's brother is reliable enough, but the only word we have is of some blokes in the same pub. After all, this conversation may not have even happened, it could just be people stirring shit.

Its obvious that Ruud and Fergie have fell out but surely as professionals they can over come it. However if Ruud is forced out by Fergie then I'm afraid Fergie's head could be on a mantle. The only thing that could worry me about Fergie getting the sack is Rooney and his developing. Hmmm... maybe Martin O'Neil.

your missin the underlying factor mate...they were in a pub, and i presume they were both intoxicated to an extent. And the reliable source of the bloke Ron talked to might have been imagining things.
He's staying as it appears we have offered for him to sign a new contract.

Original?
16-03-2006, 03:37
Its obvious that Ruud and Fergie have fell out but surely as professionals they can over come it.

This is Fergie you know?

Real Madrid could use Van Nistelrooy as some one who actually scores may come in useful for them, especially as it looks like Ronaldo (The Real One ;)) is on his way out, possibly to Inter? If he goes to Tottenham I'll be disappointed as I'd like nothing more than the dirty cocknies to fall far down the table.

As for Roma, does Ruud make a habit of exhibiting facist paraphernalia? :mellow:

Akineye
16-03-2006, 08:01
Personally I think he'll go in the summer. He's almost thirty, and we'd get far more for him now than we would if he left in a couple of years time. Add to that the immensity of Rooney, and I wouldn't be surprised to see SAF sell Ruud and promote Rossi to the first team. I wouldn't have too many complaints either, so long as the money is used to buy a midfield.

People tend to forget Rooney has carried Man Yoo at times this season and all this despite his position being fucked over on numerous occasions

People also shouldn't forget that SAF said that he'd be resting Rooney for the next couple of games, so if you find yerself watching United during this time, I'd advise you bring a good book or a Nuts/Zoo mag depending on your age.

AgentZero
16-03-2006, 08:42
well iff ruud goes..torres must come

Solid Foxx
17-03-2006, 11:53
NEC Nijmegen are hoping they can keep on-loan starlet David Jones for a further season.

Jones arrived in Holland on a season-long loan in January but after impressing, NEC are hoping Manchester United will allow the youngster to remain at De Goffert until the end of the 2006/07 campaign.

The Dutch side are so happy with Jones that they are also looking at bringing in more of United's stars for next season.

Tom Heaton, Lee Martin, Souleymane Mamam, Dong Fangzhou and Sylvan Blake, all currently on loan to Belgian side FC Antwerp, visited NEC on Thursday and trained with the club in a bid to impress new coach Mario Been.

"We hope we can loan one or two more players from Manchester United," said NEC's technical director Leen Looyen.

The club hope to know within a fortnight which of the youngsters will be returning to Holland next season.

source (http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=371751&CPID=9&clid=&lid=25&title=NEC+want+to+keep+United+ starlet")

I must say that Jones has been one of their best players this season, he at least seems way better than Fletcher.

Do you guys know any of the other guys on trial at NEC, I only know the chinese guy. Are they any good? (probably not otherwise they would play for Utd. :tongue: )

Cali
17-03-2006, 11:54
yes,he is better than fletcher....i think Eagles is an all:tongue:

Phatmann
17-03-2006, 15:44
David Jones is definitely better than Fletcher, and I would say Lee Martin is maybe better than Kieran Richardson (not too hard really). Dong looks a decent player, but with Rossi, Rooney and Ruud in the team he won't get a chance. The other 3 will probably end up at a championship side or a struggling prem side .

I've just heard that Brown is out for the WBA match :( Who do you reckon will play at the back? evra left back and silvestre in the middle? silvestre left back and vidic in the middle? evra left back and vidic int he middle? I reckon the last one as Fergie won't see WBA as a great threat and against teams like this he usually brings in some of the fringe players.

By the way, where has Fletcher gone? :mellow:

Zoolander
17-03-2006, 15:48
David Jones is definitely better than Fletcher, and I would say Lee Martin is maybe better than Kieran Richardson (not too hard really). Dong looks a decent player, but with Rossi, Rooney and Ruud in the team he won't get a chance. The other 3 will probably end up at a championship side or a struggling prem side .

I've just heard that Brown is out for the WBA match :( Who do you reckon will play at the back? evra left back and silvestre in the middle? silvestre left back and vidic in the middle? evra left back and vidic int he middle? I reckon the last one as Fergie won't see WBA as a great threat and against teams like this he usually brings in some of the fringe players.

By the way, where has Fletcher gone? :mellow:

Who care where Fletcher's gone he's fucking dog shit anyways!!!!

Phatmann
17-03-2006, 15:52
Who care where Fletcher's gone he's fucking dog shit anyways!!!!
:laugh: He's not that bad, half decent passer of the ball :mellow: but seriously, has he just been dropped or is he actually injured as I haven't heard anything about any injury :no:

Guillermo
17-03-2006, 16:01
Obviously been dropped to accomodate the returning O'Shea.

Phatmann
17-03-2006, 17:00
http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?inewsid=314074

Bardsley has gone on a 2 month loan to Burnley. A good move in my opinion as he could do with a bit more first team action.

Akineye
18-03-2006, 07:58
There was an interesting story yesterday about the latest cutbacks under the Glazer regime.

The regime demanded that any player or coach who was not directly involved with the first team was 'given the option' (the club's words) of buying the most expensive ticket or missing the match.

Ritchie Jones, who played in three earlier rounds, is cited as one example, being asked to stump up 72 quid as was Marketing Director Peter Draper (according to the Mirror).

The Guardian newspaper claims the players were "distinctly unimpressed" when they then found out the club had allocated as many as 70 complimentary tickets to sponsors and other guests. Gary Neville is understood to be leading the case for the younger players.


The funny thing is watching the reaction when the boot is on the other foot and these pampered millionaires get a glimpse of what the fans were getting so upset about last season. At least they didn't have it as hard as some fans who bought tickets from the club, didn't get them delivered and were then 'given the option' of paying to see the game twice.

vanNistelrooy
18-03-2006, 13:57
Score predictions for today lads? I'm gonna go for 2-1 United (Ruud and Haha).

Fletcher has been ok this season, he did single handidly beat Chelski :tongue:

O'Shea looks good in midfield, a shame Scholes isn't in there with him. Watching the Everton vs Villa match, and forgot how decent of a player Phil Neville is. God how we could have done with him this season.

Phatmann
18-03-2006, 14:14
Score predictions for today lads? I'm gonna go for 2-1 United (Ruud and Haha).

Fletcher has been ok this season, he did single handidly beat Chelski :tongue:

O'Shea looks good in midfield, a shame Scholes isn't in there with him. Watching the Everton vs Villa match, and forgot how decent of a player Phil Neville is. God how we could have done with him this season.
Are you saying Saha is crap? :rolleyes:

Guillermo
18-03-2006, 15:30
Are you saying Saha is crap? :rolleyes:

He's scored.:shocking:

o0oGedo0o
18-03-2006, 15:36
why isn't Ruud playing anymore? he's the league top goal scorer for God sake.

vanNistelrooy
18-03-2006, 15:52
Are you saying Saha is crap? :rolleyes:

No, just been a nickname I've had for him when playing PES. Although his finishing, at times, can be laughable.

Guillermo
18-03-2006, 16:31
He's scored.:shocking:

Make that two. :shocking:

Singh
18-03-2006, 16:38
yep....

"Louis Saha controls Cristiano Ronaldo's chip before shooting past the on-rushing West Brom keeper."

Singh
18-03-2006, 16:48
Nathan Ellington shrugs off marker Mikael Silvestre to head in a corner and make it a nervous finale for United at the Hawthorns.

vanNistelrooy
18-03-2006, 16:57
Nathan Ellington shrugs off marker Mikael Silvestre to head in a corner and make it a nervous finale for United at the Hawthorns.

Typical.

Singh
18-03-2006, 17:00
Its over just about managed the win, but still 3 points.

Silvestre needs to really go.

Cali
18-03-2006, 17:02
yes at least 3 points:cool:

vanNistelrooy
18-03-2006, 17:08
Its over just about managed the win, but still 3 points.

Silvestre needs to really go.

Even Evra is starting to look better there than Silvestre there!

Nice to see we actually have two succesive league games at home since mid-December. Should be comfortable 6 points too. As for tomorrow, COME ON YOU MAGPIES!

o0oGedo0o
20-03-2006, 16:46
why isn't Ruud playing anymore? he's the league top goal scorer for God sake.
Someone once said: quoting yourself is really selfish but what the hell? No one answered my Q. I don't watch premierleague games cause i have no subscription to it, I just read most of the news on premierleague.com.
Oh and i heard he's leaving :(, but phatmann told me propably he isn't, so anyone got some feedback on that?

Phatmann
20-03-2006, 17:01
Someone once said: quoting yourself is really selfish but what the hell? No one answered my Q. I don't watch premierleague games cause i have no subscription to it, I just read most of the news on premierleague.com.
Oh and i heard he's leaving :(, but phatmann told me propably he isn't, so anyone got some feedback on that?
Gedo, the reason no-one answered was cos we don't really know. He's most probably had a row with Fergie, but to leave your top scorer on the bench is ridiculous. However, it does show that you don't mess with Fergie :no: (just look at Beckham)
EDIT: I said I didn't think he was going, but now that he's been on the bench for a few more games, I'm not too sure of it.

Papa Lazarou
20-03-2006, 21:21
the reason Ruud has been on the bench is simple. Saha is in great form at the moment and you can't put Rooney on the bench as he's pretty much the whole team at the moment. Ruud wont leave anyways, he's too important to the team. I'm sure he'll be back in the team soon enough. Give Rooney a rest

AgentZero
21-03-2006, 04:12
i think i mentioned in an earlier post that Saha offers more than ruud do...and i think that notion has somewhat been proven that i think he links uip well with the mids tha RVN

TheBishop
21-03-2006, 12:49
May be a surprise for you to hear this from an Arsenal fan but i would love it if you came back to win the premiership this season. I have to admit that every United game i've seen this season has been on the whole entertaining and they have been playing some great football as of late. the Man U - Arsenal game at Old Trafford should be much better than the Highbury one as both teams look in much better form.

Zoolander
21-03-2006, 12:58
May be a surprise for you to hear this from an Arsenal fan but i would love it if you came back to win the premiership this season. I have to admit that every United game i've seen this season has been on the whole entertaining and they have been playing some great football as of late. the Man U - Arsenal game at Old Trafford should be much better than the Highbury one as both teams look in much better form.

Since we're licking each others arses i'd like to say how much i enjoy Arsenal's style of football. I'm fed up of the shitty Liverpool,Chelsea style of football being played by some clubs. Hell even Man U tried copying Chelsea's formation!!!! Attack, Attack, Attack!!!!

Akineye
21-03-2006, 19:00
why isn't Ruud playing anymore? he's the league top goal scorer for God sake.

Because Saha is playing immense.

What a bizzare game against West Brom. There are some games which are more or less forgotten after a couple of months because they're average. Football-wise, this was a one of those games. But I left the ground hoping that West Brom survive this season, not least because the Baggy fans sing hymns in a language foreign to anybody who doesn't live within twenty miles of the stadium, but also because of the tremendous entertainment of the day.

It started out by being greeted with sniffer dogs upon arrival at the stadium. Not for the West Midlands Police an anti-terrorist initiative, but a drugs spaniel, checking out United fans for 'all classes of drugs, it can detect your Class A's as well as the cannabis' said one bobby instrumental in the checks. So why here and now? 'We're targeting drug addled supports like yours and Everton' came the reply. Honestly, you couldn't make it up for fear of being called Walter Mitty.

And at half time came Mr Woo, who after 15 minutes of keep-ups came down to the United end to score a great goal. The most bizzarre part of the half time entertainment was the video of Georgie Best which was played for no apparent reason whatsoever. Much to the annoyance of the home support, who'd heard us singing to and possibly get recognition from, their manager, our Bryan ten minutes earlier.

On the football side of things there were a few positives too, United are winning, Saha is scoring and we have made it through the loss of Wes as Rio's partner without dropping any points.

Phatmann
21-03-2006, 19:06
Saha is playing immense? Saha is on form? :shocking: I'm not saying he didn't play well (against WBA :ninja: ) but last week he was absolutely awful and the game before, we won the game after Ruud came off the bench to set Ronaldo up, and we then went off to win the game. Let's not get carried away here. He has good pace, and offers something different, but he's hardly world class (like Van Nistelrooy)

Akineye