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Or Reo-Coker?
Awesome player. Give us Yossi whilst you're at it!
Reo Coker would be immense but would he leave? and how much for?
reo-coker is quality but i doubt west ham will let him go, i think signed a new contract. i would like carrick
i would like carrick
Maybe, but we ain't getting him. I mean, you probably have more chance of getting laid.
:no:
-Jamster-
13-05-2006, 20:08
Apparently, we're interested in Martins. I'll get a link later.
Good man. What about Nolan? He was linked to us before.
I would love to get Nolan or Reo Coker but as they are their clubs captains I doubt that they would leave, Barton would never come and he only had a good middle part of the season the rest of the time he was shite.
If Ruud does go we should definetly try to lure in a big player in a trade deal, what about Sneijder if Ruud wants to go back to Holland.
Apparently, we're interested in Martins. I'll get a link later.
GOD NO:crymore:
Carrick,Reo-coker,Nolan would be class!
Apparently, we're interested in Martins. I'll get a link later.
martins is very quick, but the guy misses too many chances
Papa Lazarou
13-05-2006, 21:39
what about a swap deal, Ruud + money for Shevchenko who looks like he may leave milan
what about a swap deal, Ruud + money for Shevchenko who looks like he may leave milan
That would be amazing but I would rather get a World Class midfielder.
what about a swap deal, Ruud + money for Shevchenko who looks like he may leave milan
There were rumours going around once or twice during the season about us and Shevas, I wouldn't rule him out.
How's things on Gattuso these days? Is there any possibility to get him?
Shevchenko's three high-profile close friends:
Silvio Berlusconi, Victor Yushchenko, Roman Abramovich
Gattuso = relatively unlikely
How's things on Gattuso these days? Is there any possibility to get him?
Probably is, although I don't know all the possible midfielders we've been watching. I'd prefer someone else to Gatusso, someone a bit more "complete".
AgentZero
14-05-2006, 01:40
dream signings would be RVN swap with Torres and Reo-Coker.....that lad was superb in the final, Benayoun not bad either.....off topic but anyone reckon he looks a tad like a younger, skinnier Gary Neville long lost israely relative maybe?...
Phatmann
14-05-2006, 01:43
dream signings would be RVN swap with Torres and Reo-Coker.....that lad was superb in the final, Benayoun not bad either.....off topic but anyone reckon he looks a tad like a younger, skinnier Gary Neville long lost israely relative maybe?...
:laugh: Yeah I see what you mean, does look similar to Nev. Torres and Reo-Coker? might be decent signings, not too sure whether either would come though or if we'd actually go after them, and it looks like Torres is going to Arsenal anyways.
AgentZero
14-05-2006, 01:55
that would be a shame id say.......Torres is huge talent and him going to the gooners is a huge kick in the teeth. Would that mean Monsieur Henry is heading the other way?
Phatmann
14-05-2006, 01:56
that would be a shame id say.......Torres is huge talent and him going to the gooners is a huge kick in the teeth. Would that mean Monsieur Henry is heading the other way?
Doubt it, to be honest Torres has been linked to Arsenal for a while anyways, so we might have a chance of getting him, but I just can't see it happening to be honest.
AgentZero
14-05-2006, 02:10
overrated as in the toon puttin 38 million euro bid for him
Yeah...who is our chairman?
overrated as in the toon puttin 38 million euro bid for him Yup because our chairman like's a trophy signing to show how great he is
Torres is overrated
Ahem.
I wouldn't mind seeing him at Old Trafford but bringing him through would yet again block any chance of Guiseppe Rossi progressing at a high level. We don't really need Torres, he'd be a nice edition but I'd be much more concerned with our Midfield. Getting a high quality midfielder is definetely top of the list, looks like Diarra is in the bag too, possibly the Ruud trade.
Ahem.
I wouldn't mind seeing him at Old Trafford but bringing him through would yet again block any chance of Guiseppe Rossi progressing at a high level. We don't really need Torres, he'd be a nice edition but I'd be much more concerned with our Midfield. Getting a high quality midfielder is definetely top of the list, looks like Diarra is in the bag too, possibly the Ruud trade.
I agree, although having Torres would be good, a midfielder is definetly a must as that is our weakest area on the pitch. I think we should look at somebody who is class but will not cost too much.
Ahem.
I wouldn't mind seeing him at Old Trafford but bringing him through would yet again block any chance of Guiseppe Rossi progressing at a high level.
Rossi is lacking experience, and I can see him being loaned out to a CCC team next season. So I'd say we need another striker, maybe Shevas ;)
Getting a high quality midfielder is definetely top of the list, looks like Diarra is in the bag too, possibly the Ruud trade.
I will support Sheffield United next season if we get Diarra for Ruud + money.
Phatmann
14-05-2006, 16:05
I will support Sheffield United next season if we get Diarra for Ruud + money.
:no:
But I agree that it'd be stupid to sell ruud + money for Diarra. Should be diarra + money for ruud or no deal.
:no:
But I agree that it'd be stupid to sell ruud + money for Diarra. Should be diarra + money for ruud or no deal.
It should be but now that Ruud has fallen out with Fergie he will just try to ger rid of him as easily as possible. But if it is Ruud + Money then the money should be no more than £10 million.
Is it just me or is the probability of Riquelme coming to OT tiny? He is a great player but I just can't see it. The Sheva move is looking a lot more likely in my opinion. I wouldn't be surprised if...
I always wanted us to sign Scott Parker before he eventually moved to Newcastle. I think he's just what we need, good all-rounder, gets stuck in and will only get better. Plus he's English and wears his heart on his sleeve. Maybe a bit injury prone though. Too bad Newcastle would never sell him.
If we lose Rudd we definitely need a new striker (150 goals in 200 games? Who the hell said we didn't need a replacement for that?). Torres might be too expensive, afterall Ruud won't go to Atletico, or Lyon for that matter either so we can forget Diarra. This Ruud thing has come at a bad time, our transfer kitty needs to be spent wisely on some top centre mids (and a winger to be phased in for Giggs). How the hell do you go about replacing Ruud? He will break the Champions League scoring record provided he goes to a good European side this summer. Amazing goals to game ratio, real shame Fergie has to fuck up our best players (Stam or Keane anyone?).
I really can't see us getting half the players we're being linked to. I doubt any of the top mids would come to us from the list. Diarra, Diop, Carrick, Mascherano, Gattusso can't see it happening. Not sure if I want Riquelme anyway TBH, you don't get the five hours on the ball over here like you do there. Not sure he has the workrate we want either, with the ball quality but we want someone who will fight for it like Giggs does when we don't have it.
AgentZero
18-05-2006, 10:11
help out lads please:D
http://www.pesinsight.com/showthread.php?t=38118
Manchester United are reportedly in talks to sign Brazilian starlet Kerlon.
The 18-year-old, full name Kerlon Moura Souza, is Cruzeiro's prized asset and is one of the hottest young properties in Brazil.
He came to the fore last year during the South American Under-17 championship where he helped his country lift the title in Venezuela - whilst also winning both the top-scorer and player of the tournament awards.
It was during the junior competition that Sir Alex Ferguson is believed to have been tipped off about the boy, whose genius is compared to that of Ronaldinho.
His party trick - which he employs regularly during a game - is something called the 'seal dribble', as he flicks the ball onto his head and runs with it past the opposition, who cannot challenge him without committing a foul.
Kerlon admits it is something he has always been able to do: "It's just a skill I have, though it's not meant to be a mark of disrespect to my opponents.
"Opponents say they will snap me, but this doesn't scare me, it just motivates me even more."
United, having missed out on Ronaldinho, are keen to secure the player who is being tipped to succeed him with the national side and Cruzeiro admit he is available.
"We are always ready to listen to offers for Kerlon," Cruzeiro vice-president Zeze Perrella told The Times and he confirmed a deal was close with a Premiership club - believed to be United.
"We have had a lot of interest in him and we have been in close contact with an English team, but right now we are not there on the money."
One problem for Ferguson and United, is that Kerlon may not immediately qualify to play in England - as at the moment it appears he has no European relatives from whom he could draw an EU passport.
Should Kerlon arrive in England, who would have to be loaned out until he could secure a permit to play in The Premiership. Source= SkySports
Yea i read this...
http://www.aftonbladet.se/atv/player.html?catID=26&clipID=557
Him and his "Seal dribble"
zangerbone
18-05-2006, 15:57
we have to lose Ruud, Fergie didn't fuck up Ruud did, he never gets on with team mates, most players in the dutch side hate Ruud because he starts fights, Ronaldo refuses to play on the same side as him now, face it, he fucks up team morale
we have to lose Ruud, Fergie didn't fuck up Ruud did, he never gets on with team mates, most players in the dutch side hate Ruud because he starts fights, Ronaldo refuses to play on the same side as him now, face it, he fucks up team morale
van nistelrooy is a wanker. i hope we get kerlon
we have to lose Ruud, Fergie didn't fuck up Ruud did, he never gets on with team mates, most players in the dutch side hate Ruud because he starts fights, Ronaldo refuses to play on the same side as him now, face it, he fucks up team morale If i was Ruud i'd be a bit pissed off as well losing the best crosser of the ball in the world and having that overrated show pony instead
If i was Ruud i'd be a bit pissed off as well losing the best crosser of the ball in the world and having that overrated show pony instead
fair point, but ruud has been acting like a dickhead man
we have to lose Ruud, Fergie didn't fuck up Ruud did
Oh yeah, dropping Ruud for the Carling Cup Final when he was on form was all his own fault.
fair point, but ruud has been acting like a dickhead man
Who do you advise us to get then? There's hardly anyone who can be a prolific scorer like Ruud.
Who do you advise us to get then? There's hardly anyone who can be a prolific scorer like Ruud. Michael Owen ;)
Yea i read this...
http://www.aftonbladet.se/atv/player.html?catID=26&clipID=557
Him and his "Seal dribble"
Get ready for countless..
CN I PLZ HVE KERLON STATS PLZ threads.
Phatmann
18-05-2006, 17:17
Get ready for countless..
CN I PLZ HVE KERLON STATS PLZ threads.
Too late Dan: http://www.pesinsight.com/showthread.php?t=38128&highlight=kerlon
the first of many I imagine.
Papa Lazarou
18-05-2006, 21:03
Too late Dan: http://www.pesinsight.com/showthread.php?t=38128&highlight=kerlon
the first of many I imagine.
LOL, so true.
I'm slightly skeptical about signing this guy, especially if it's for a huge fee! i mean south americans don't always do well in the premiership but hey, we don't know till we've tried eh! And he better not be Ruuds replacement cause we need someone proven
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One year on from the Glazer takeover of Manchester United, various journalists have had a go at assessing its impact and the mood of United followers.
Most appear to have taken the lazy and sardonic attitude that 'nothing has really changed'.
Luckily I learned a long time ago that reading something in a newspaper should not be a sign of it's accuracy, but I'm surprised how many half-truths some people will swallow and how readily they will latch on to a bland one-liner and accept it as fact without looking into it for themselves.
Normally it doesn't matter, people can believe what they want to believe, but when it regards Manchester United, and more specifically the Glazer situation, people need to be set straight.
Take Gill's bundle of spin that he produced on the takeover anniversary.
Remember, this is the man who called the Glazer's plans 'damaging' when they weren't paying his wages, who offered money to SU, and who proclaimed he would be 'manning the barricades' with the fans at a time when their opinion mattered to him for once.
'There is clearly more debt than before' would have anyone who hasn't followed the whole episode thinking that United were in debt before the Glazers, and that it has just been topped up. The truth being that £1 of debt would have been 'more debt than before', as United had millions in the bank. Hundreds of millions of debt are therefore glibly glossed over as though it's almost a healthy position that is in no way affecting day to day matters on and off the pitch.
But Gill didn't just buy his bucket of whitewash last week.
When questioned over the 16,000 empty seats at the Debrecen Champions League qualifier, Gill offered the England cricket game down the road later in the week as an excuse. No, seriously, he did. Given that the home of LCCC holds 19,000, we were being asked to believe that every empty seat for the Debrecen game was because they would've normally been filled by cricket loving England fans who couldn't afford both. Oh, and that despite this not being a problem for United's attendances since 1878, it was now.
We also hear how United's cheapest tickets after the price rises are still among the cheapest in the country, and they are. They are also only somewhere between 5 and 10% of United's capacity, the remainder being priced among the top 5 in the country. Those dearer include Arsenal, Chelsea, and Tottenham, where the earnings of the match going fan bear about as much resemblance to the average United supporter as mine do to Gill's.
We are told that the Glazer's have brought 'stability' to the club. I would imagine that the 25 people made redundant by Gill would beg to differ. Maybe even the countless reserves and youths now being coached and developed away from Old Trafford to get them off the wage bill may feel the same. This is probably the easiest example of a financial decision being made without regard to the footballing side of operations - will the lads out on loan get the same level of quality coaching and development at places like Watford, Antwerp, Walsall, Brighton, Crewe, Chesterfield, and others as they should, in theory at least, be getting at Carrington? With the exception of Beckham, can you name a United player who has gone out on loan and come back better? In fact, how many have ever played for United at all once sent out on loan?
We are told that the Glazers backed Sir Alex Ferguson when sanctioning the purchases of Vidic and Evra, as though providing around £12m was some sort of white knight act of generosity that proves their credentials. We are also told by Ferguson himself that the Glazers are 'excellent' when it came to the purchases, as he didn't have to wait for plc approval. Well, I didn't hear any complaints in all the plc years, for all the plc's faults, about delays while funds were approved, and certainly some purchases seem to have been made with plenty of haste. Gill himself declared years ago in a sly dig at Forlan that 'last minute purchases haven't always worked out well'. The money was found quickly enough then Sir Alex, so sorry, that one doesn't wash either.
We are even told that AIG was a preferred option as a sponsor, as they are 'blue chip'. This is the same AIG that was recently fined millions for malpractice.
It would be nice if the insults to our intelligence were only coming from Old Trafford, but too many statements like the above are accepted by people who really ought to know better, and even garnished by the radio phone-in and message board 'look at me' brigade.
How many times have you heard 'they are businessmen, they wont let it fail' from some smart arse who knows nothing about United, or, worse, a United fan who just over a year ago was singing 'Not For Sale' but who now has shrugged his shoulders? They of course ignore the fact no mainstream banks would touch the Glazer business plan, that the Glazers have had failed businesses, and that believe it or not, United was run by businessmen before (and very profitably thank you).
'No shareholders to pay dividends to now' is offered by the bloke down the pub who wants to look clever (having heard the same from Gill) as a benefit of private ownership, overlooking the fact that dividends were a fraction of what is now having to be paid out in interest.
The dullest of all the short sighted sound bites is the one about Old Trafford still selling out. For those nice, easy for Johnny Megastore weekend games, more often than not it does. It used to be the case with every game that it was sold out weeks in advance. This season the 'apply now' button on the ticket application website stays up days, sometimes weeks longer than before, with some tickets even being available on match days. We've been harangued by post and email to apply for season tickets, where before, there wasn't even a waiting list. Every existing book holder who wanted an extra season ticket, got one, no ballot needed for them. In a true act of spin, some declared attendances, where empty seats have been dotted around the ground, have been laughable. I guess the key word there though is just that - attendance - the Glazer's don't care if you turn up or not as long as the seat has been paid for.
All we can do is not take anything coming from Gill at face value (him being two-faced doesn't help for a start) and ignore the know-nowts, United supporters or not, who think the Glazers are ok. They'll all be gone long before we are.
In the Daily Star it says that we are intrested in signing Thomas Kuchzack from West Brom, personally I think he is a good keeper and is much better than Tim Howard.
Guys, Kerlon isn't the answer... If you really want the "new Ronaldinho" his name is Anderson and he plays for Porto. Was player of the tournament in the under 17 World Cup for Brazil and was at the same club as Ronaldinho....
Kerlon is too lightweight and a bit of aa one trick pony..
AgentZero
20-05-2006, 01:07
screw this attacking minded players we need to shore up the midfield
Yeah Kerlon, try doing that heading shit against John Terry!
Thats if Terry could catch him.
Man Utd should sort out there Midfield first...
Michael Owen ;)
Although there was probably a HUGE amount of sarcasm in that joke, Owen and Rooney would be great. Would to the national side alot of good too.
Although there was probably a HUGE amount of sarcasm in that joke, Owen and Rooney would be great. Would to the national side alot of good too. I'm being serious
accessgranted
20-05-2006, 15:20
Guys, Kerlon isn't the answer... If you really want the "new Ronaldinho" his name is Anderson and he plays for Porto. Was player of the tournament in the under 17 World Cup for Brazil and was at the same club as Ronaldinho....
Kerlon is too lightweight and a bit of aa one trick pony..
Isn't Giovanni Dos Santos the new Ronaldinho?
Isn't Giovanni Dos Santos the new Ronaldinho? Sahin is apparantly the best of the bunch for that age group
nah man goivanni dos santos is better
-Jamster-
20-05-2006, 15:32
Barcelona won't let Dos Santos go. He is the next big thing.
nah man goivanni dos santos is better Any particular reason for this? or is this because the media and the fanboys have told you so
Any particular reason for this? or is this because the media and the fanboys have told you so
errrr no, i have actually seen him play in the world U17 tournament in peru i think. he was by far the best player in the tournament. sahin is a good player aswell but he didnt make as much as impact as giovanni dos santos did
Isn't Giovanni Dos Santos the new Ronaldinho?
He's a very good player who also played in the under 17 World Cup for Mexico. He didn't score a goal in the whole tournament I think, and Carlos Vela got the Golden Boot.
Dos Santos is a player that is alot stronger than players in his age bracket, a la Rooney, but he lacks finishing and is defintely not a skillful player in the Ronaldinho mode. He has good vision, but can't beat a man with outrageous tricks.
The similarities between Ronaldinho and Dos Santos ar mainly in features; both are black with long frizzy ponytail, dos santos as I said is powerful with HUGE thighs!! But I would say that Andersons skill and influence-wise is more like Goofy...
is he playing in the World Cup 2006?(Dos Santos)
No..
He is no way as developed as a player like Messi, plus he's only about 17 right now....
He still in Barcelona B team, and is still quite inconsistent.
Chelsea and Manchester United have reportedly struck a deal to swap Iceland ace Eidur Gudjohnsen for Holland hitman Ruud van Nistelrooy.
The transfer fee involved is not known, but the champions were alerted to van Nistelrooy's availability after the Red Devils registered their interest in classy forward Gudjohnsen.
Chelsea chief executive Peter Kenyon - formerly in charge at Old Trafford - is believed to have met van Nistelrooy's agent Roger Linse in Paris last Wednesday and agreed personal terms on a deal.
However even if the van Nistelrooy deal goes through, it would not stop Roman Abramovich splashing out close to £50million on AC Milan striker Andriy Shevchenko. A decision on the Ukraine superstar's future is due to be announced this week.
A Chelsea insider said: "Jose (Mourinho) would alter the structure of his entire side if he could bring in van Nistelrooy and Shevchenko. They would not only terrorise the Premier League but the whole of Europe as well."
Van Nistelrooy's five-year stint at Old Trafford appears to be over after a miserable second half of this season.
First he lost his place to Louis Saha for the Carling Cup final in Cardiff, and then saw even youngster Giuseppe Rossi preferred to him for the Premiership finale against Charlton.
Milan giants AC and Inter have both been linked with a move for the prolific 29-year-old.
But Tottenham's reported interest is likely to cool after they splashed out £10.9million on Bayer Leverkusen's Bulgarian hitman Dimitar Berbatov.
United would clearly prefer to sell van Nistelrooy abroad, but the possibility of a swap deal sending Gudjohnsen north may spark a deal with Chelsea.
Sir Alex Ferguson is a long-term admirer of the Icelandic ace, who made only 16 appearances during Chelsea's second consecutive title-winning season.
What's everyone's opinion on this then? Eidur is a fantastic player no doubt, although he is not going to get you 20+ goals a season like Ruud can. Also, the LAST thing we want to do is give Chelsea the one thing they require to becoming almost invincible; a potent striker. Ruud will put away the chances Drogba squanders with ease. I'd be questioning SAF if this dealwent through. If we sell him we should sell him abroad.
I think that if there was going to be a trade deal it would have to be Gudjohnsen + £15 million for Ruud, although I do like Gudjohnsen and would love him at Man Utd it would be bad buisness if we didn't get any money back for Ruud.
Alex must have a real problem with Ruud if his willing to sell him to Chelsea. Sometimes I just think Ferguson should of left when he said he was going to. Oh well.
Alex must have a real problem with Ruud if his willing to sell him to Chelsea. Sometimes I just think Ferguson should of left when he said he was going to. Oh well.
He does seem to not be able to back down even if he knows he is in the wrong.
He does seem to not be able to back down even if he knows he is in the wrong. When is Fergie ever in the wrong though? Beckham had to go when he did, Van Nistelrooy has clearly upset team morale and has to go as well
What's everyone's opinion on this then? Eidur is a fantastic player no doubt, although he is not going to get you 20+ goals a season like Ruud can. Also, the LAST thing we want to do is give Chelsea the one thing they require to becoming almost invincible; a potent striker. Ruud will put away the chances Drogba squanders with ease. I'd be questioning SAF if this dealwent through. If we sell him we should sell him abroad.
Like I said before, Gudjohsen's a great player but is definitely not a replacement for Ruud.
He likes to drop off and influence play, and United already have Rooney, probably the best player in the world at doing that.
Cudnt see or dont hope to see ruud jumping ship to chelsea.Its a bit stupid to be honest.We're hoping to prove a bigger challenge next season but if we give a world class striker to our rivals we'll have no chance.
If he had to go i'd say inter.
Ruud dosen't know why he is being sold.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/5005908.stm
Hopefully this gives some hope of him staying.
Ruud dosen't know why he is being sold.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/5005908.stm
Hopefully this gives some hope of him staying.
Links not working mate. But he could just be playing the sympathetic, innocent game. Could be, but I doubt it.
The link is working for me. I do hope that he stays as we need a poacher to work with Rooney and he is one of the best poachers.
I would love it Van Nisty came to Arsenal, provided he gets on with our players....
He may be passed his peak, but he's not far from it and if you guys let him go, its going to comeback and slap you in the face...
Cant see him going to you lot after he got bullied by most of your team couple of seasons ago.
So Arsenal get Rosicky, Chelsea get Ballack, who we getting? Some shite fucker I'm guessing.
The Messiah
23-05-2006, 16:39
Don't worry we've got Darren Fletcher.
executioner
23-05-2006, 16:39
I would love it Van Nisty came to Arsenal, provided he gets on with our players....
In patrick vieira's autobiography he said that everyone at arsenal hates van nistelrooy.
@Haribo = we'll get someone good from the money of van nist
Fergie is losing it, i my opinion. You could almost field a top 5 XI with players he's shifted out; Stam, Beckham, Keane, Barthez....
executioner
23-05-2006, 16:57
Fergie is losing it, i my opinion. You could almost field a top 5 XI with players he's shifted out; Stam, Beckham, Keane, Barthez....
ok a new topic :mellow:
the fact is that fergie is a winner, and if those guys dont want to play for manchester united then fuck 'em. Keane is alright, the rest werent up to scratch after a while.
and yes he's got rid of them, but if we didnt get rid of a few guys we wouldnt get in new guys
cough rooney cough
Phatmann
23-05-2006, 18:09
In patrick vieira's autobiography he said that everyone at arsenal hates van nistelrooy.
@Haribo = we'll get someone good from the money of van nist
Like who though? I don't see many players who chelsea haven't already been linked with.
And I don't consider it to be good business to sell Ruud and buy a midfielder anyway. We wouldn't be any stronger.
Phatmann
23-05-2006, 18:19
And I don't consider it to be good business to sell Ruud and buy a midfielder anyway. We wouldn't be any stronger.
Exactly. I'm certainly looking forward to a season of Saha partnering Rooney up front ( :no: )
The Messiah
23-05-2006, 18:22
Torres will be coming.
well,I hope so,But we need a midfielder.
Torres. Nope. We're looking to replace a 30+ a season goalscorer with another, and Torres definately isn't that.
Owen would do nicely.
Owen would be great but I doubt that he will leave Newcastle just 1/2 a season after joining.
The Messiah
23-05-2006, 18:30
Torres told me so himself!!! We go to the same hairdressers.
Billy Minof
23-05-2006, 19:23
Torres would easily get ye 20 goals a season while Owen would be lucky to play that many matches.
The player United could be after maybe David Villa, a great striker and also Valencia are looking at other strikers maybe to replace him.
Watch this Space.
Papa Lazarou
23-05-2006, 19:45
i have a feeling in me gut that we'll go after gudjonnson...and he'll be great!! you'll see
i have a feeling in me gut that we'll go after gudjonnson...and he'll be great!! you'll see
I think that Gudjohnsen would be the safest bet as he would be the cheapest out of everyone mentioned and he is more versatile which we need especially with a lack of midfielders, I also think that Gudjohnsen would be the best as he is a true professional and we would have no problems with him if he was dropped etc.
i have a feeling in me gut that we'll go after gudjonnson...and he'll be great!! you'll see
Oh yeah, Chelsea reserve. Aren't we improving :rolleyes:
Happy Birthday to Eric Cantona, who is 40 years old today.
Strange thought that at the same age, Teddy Sheringham is still playing well at the highest level of English football...
Also, Mike Stone is no longer the United doctor. There was a 'difference of opinion involving neither football or medical issues', apparently.
United have been linked with Inter midfielder Gloria Esteban Cambiasso, the ex-Real Madrid player who is described by the UEFA website as a 'tireless midfield schemer'.
Stella Artois
24-05-2006, 13:43
I'd imagine the difference of opinion being Ferguson doesn't want Rooney at the WC. :rolleyes:
Happy Birthday to Eric Cantona, who is 40 years old today.
Strange thought that at the same age, Teddy Sheringham is still playing well at the highest level of English football...
Also, Mike Stone is no longer the United doctor. There was a 'difference of opinion involving neither football or medical issues', apparently.
United have been linked with Inter midfielder Gloria Esteban Cambiasso, the ex-Real Madrid player who is described by the UEFA website as a 'tireless midfield schemer'.
Cambiasso is the sort of player we need so I would love him to come to us, though we would still need one more class midfielder who can play on the left.
Also is Manchester United are looking for a striker how about Andy Johnson? He would be cheaper than any other striker, he has proved he can score in the Premiership and he is the sort of player who would work well with Rooney.
Papa Lazarou
24-05-2006, 13:51
Cambiasso is the sort of player we need so I would love him to come to us, though we would still need one more class midfielder who can play on the left.
Also is Manchester United are looking for a striker how about Andy Johnson? He would be cheaper than any other striker, he has proved he can score in the Premiership and he is the sort of player who would work well with Rooney.
Andy Johnson is shit...simple as that
I'd imagine the difference of opinion being Ferguson doesn't want Rooney at the WC. :rolleyes:
United denied it was anything to do with that. Though I'm fairly sure that Rooney will start the first game against Paraguay regardless.
The Cambiasso deal is likely to involve Ruud going in the other direction too.
As for Andy Johnson, I've never been a fan. He's a decent premiership striker, but not really United-class.
Andy Johnson is shit...simple as that Yet i've heard you call Darren Fletcher a great player
Cambiasso to United would be fucking excellent.
A.J. no thanks.
Papa Lazarou
24-05-2006, 18:38
Yet i've heard you call Darren Fletcher a great player
Fletcher is a great player. He's better than AJ anyways
Anyway
I don't know too much about Cambiasso? what's he like?
Fletcher is a great player. He's better than AJ anyways
Anyway
I don't know too much about Cambiasso? what's he like?
A tireless midfield schemer, I've already said.
Oh, and Fletcher is anything but great.
Cambiasso would definetly be a good signing, Diarra is still target number one though because he is younger so has more years ahead of him.
Fletcher is shit.
I think there are better players out there than Cambiasso. But he's a player that can do a job and we won't be held to ransom over the transfer fee Lyon-styley. Though "tireless midfield schemer" doesn't really say much, I'd describe Park as that, yet he's not up to the centre mid job.
Andy Johnson is shite, not anywhere near United quality. People are remembering his premiership season where he scored something like 12 of his goals from the penalty spot. So what. Am I right in saying he scored a mere 15 goals in the Championship last season or did I hear wrong? Not the kind of scoring record to replace Ruud Van Nistelrooy, who has like 47 goals in the CL in 4/5 seasons, and let's face it it's not like United have played up to the final every year either. Andy Johnson is over priced and over rated.
Fletcher is also shite, yes. Trouble is like Richardson has a good game every now and again which Fergie seems to remember more than the games they go missing during games.
As I think I've said before I'd like to see a new young winger come in to be phased in for Giggs of which Jaoquin, Downing, Lennon would be great, though the chances of getting them at all and at a decent transfer fee make them unlikely.
Mambo do you know whats happening about Obi Mikel?
Yeah I read United are getting £10-12 million in compensation money from Chelsea and he goes there. Good deal if you ask me! I'd rather £10million than a money grabbing bastard whose heart wouldn't be in it at United. I'm glad if it's true. We could definitely use that money to good use, £10million could go a long way to improving the squad.
I think there are better players out there than Cambiasso. But he's a player that can do a job and we won't be held to ransom over the transfer fee Lyon-styley. Though "tireless midfield schemer" doesn't really say much, I'd describe Park as that, yet he's not up to the centre mid job.
Andy Johnson is shite, not anywhere near United quality. People are remembering his premiership season where he scored something like 12 of his goals from the penalty spot. So what. Am I right in saying he scored a mere 15 goals in the Championship last season or did I hear wrong? Not the kind of scoring record to replace Ruud Van Nistelrooy, who has like 47 goals in the CL in 4/5 seasons, and let's face it it's not like United have played up to the final every year either. Andy Johnson is over priced and over rated.
Fletcher is also shite, yes. Trouble is like Richardson has a good game every now and again which Fergie seems to remember more than the games they go missing during games.
As I think I've said before I'd like to see a new young winger come in to be phased in for Giggs of which Jaoquin, Downing, Lennon would be great, though the chances of getting them at all and at a decent transfer fee make them unlikely.
There are better players than Cambiasso, and I don't know how much reality there is in him being linked with United. It's just a fact that United will be linked with every midfielder in the world in the next couple of months. It makes sense that the media would make the obvious assertion with Inter being linked with Ruud, too.
As for Ruud? It's not easy to replace the most prolific striker in Premiership history, but being honest he hasn't been 'on form' for the past two years. He hasn't been Fletcher-shit, but definitely shit compared to the Ruud van Nistelrooy who joined the club in 2001 with something to prove, the player who quickly became the most prolific striker United have seen since Law.
The squad needs two midfielders in the summer, desperately. If Ruud goes, United need a striker too. And being forced to shell out for a world class striker is clearly taking money away from the war chest needed to buy midfielders.
mufcsean
25-05-2006, 11:12
ithink we should buy a new keeper like Paul Robinson,a skillfull midfielder like Schweinsteiger and a rock in midfield like Diarra, i wouldn't mind another striker aswell, oh and get fletcher shipped of tosomeone like birmingham and send evra back were he came from
ithink we should buy a new keeper like Paul Robinson,a skillfull midfielder like Schweinsteiger and a rock in midfield like Diarra, i wouldn't mind another striker aswell, oh and get fletcher shipped of tosomeone like birmingham and send evra back were he came from
we dont need to worry about the keeper position at the moment IMO. Think SAF will see how Tim Howard gets on at Everton next season as to whether he can eventually take over from Van Der Sar. As for Van Der Sar, he was the difference in quite a few games last season, he doesn't appear to be on the wane despite his age there are still a few good years left in him. I think we are fine in goal and at the back.
Evra had a shite first season at United true, but he has had to adjust to the language and pace of teh Premiership midway through the season under some pressure. Give him time, from what I've read he was one of the most frightening left backs going forward in the French league.
I personally have never seen Diarra play, though I've heard he was more important to Lyon than Essien. I should hope so 'cos so far I haven't seen Essien produce anything near the quality his pricetag suggests. Mascherano I've heard good things about, he might be cheaper.
I very much doubt we'd get Schweinsteiger either, though a creative mid is also definitely needed.
o0oGedo0o
25-05-2006, 18:57
it pains me to see nistelrooy leaving, i read somewhere that he doesn't want to leave i dunno what the hell is wrong with saf? he has pushed very good players away from united like david beckham, nistelrooy and i heard that he kicked out rooney's doctor and refused to allow him to play in the world cup which made him very upset i hope he doesn't turn on us
Phatmann
25-05-2006, 23:57
Reserve team captain Markus Neumayr has been released :(
Ba!
Only seen him play once.
Reserve team captain Markus Neumayr has been released :(
Fucking stupid. Only signed him a few years ago didn't we?
Phatmann
26-05-2006, 00:06
Fucking stupid. Only signed him a few years ago didn't we?
Yep, 2 years ago, was just looking as though he may break into the first team for a few games too. I'm sure he'll get picked up by a decent side.
Thats horrid news, I like watching the reserves play and it was mainly down to Marcus. He was a great young prospect to maybe help our fading Midfield. I'd consider him in somewhat of a Beckham style league with his great vision and passing. Not to mention his ability to whip in a beautiful ball every match. The guy was a special up and comer and it really has dissapointed me to see him being released.
If he's as good as you say he is then why have we released him? Doesn't make much sense. Lennon played well in the England game tonight so I hear (didn't watch it) and Downing apparently had a bad game. Hope SAF was watching.
Yeah, it's a shame. He wasn't prodigous or anything, but that's what you get when United are under the Glazer's ownership.
Players have to buy their own tickets to matches, youngsters are released simply to get them off the wage structure, and most of the youth team are loaned out for no other reason than to make some other team pay their wages for a season.
You reds know what happened on this day 7 years ago?
Damn right.
Manchester Untied 2 - 1 Bryan Munich :cool:
Oh the feelings it brings back, shivers down the spine.
If he's as good as you say he is then why have we released him? Doesn't make much sense. Lennon played well in the England game tonight so I hear (didn't watch it) and Downing apparently had a bad game. Hope SAF was watching.You's had a 6 million bid rejected for Lennon last January, and he's untouchable
Stella Artois
26-05-2006, 14:01
The Scum are clearly trying to build a team so you wouldn't get anywhere near Lennon.
Ben Foster has been called up to the England back-up squad for the World Cup.
Lord Shrimpeh
26-05-2006, 15:26
Does anyone know how Ben got on at Watford? It'd be great to have a good up and coming keeper as backup to Sar/Howard
He did pretty well, Watford got promoted so he couldn't have been too bad.
o0oGedo0o
26-05-2006, 23:01
sheva is headed to chelsea this season, that's just great, let's just sell nistelrooy so we can make it easier for chelsea to win the league for the third time in a row.
AgentZero
27-05-2006, 00:20
who said sheva wont be a flop
remember crespo, mutus first season at the bridge
o0oGedo0o
27-05-2006, 00:26
i think we all agree that shevchencko is a more capable player than these two
AgentZero
27-05-2006, 00:31
nevertheless the italian leagues high calibre players are protected by the ref.......its different in the epl.
nevertheless the italian leagues high calibre players are protected by the ref.......its different in the epl.Yes because Chelsea's players don't get protection or Man Yoo's never used too :rolleyes:
AgentZero
27-05-2006, 00:38
nup...because we're not affiliated with terrorist:P
o0oGedo0o
27-05-2006, 00:41
maybe you're right, but he's a talented player, and let's not involve shevchenko in a juventus' scandal, btw i think we should get saviola, barca don't want him which is weird, and i think he'll do a great job upfront.
AgentZero
27-05-2006, 00:44
its all well and good if ruud did go...but he did say he is staying at united...so for this summer lets sign a mid...derossi, gattuso or perhaops try and nab xavi
nup...because we're not affiliated with terrorist:PHappens in all league's mate, the top teams always get the bread and butter decisions
o0oGedo0o
27-05-2006, 00:48
xavi or gattuso will be great, i doubt barca will ell xavi though
AgentZero
27-05-2006, 00:50
have you been hearing he speculation?(i know you are also a real madrid supporter) that they might get Jesus Navas and Joaquin...maybe united should also get navas....joaquin will be to hard to compete for
Joaquin has been off the boil for a while now, so whether he'd do us any good is uncertain. I'd rather strengthen the central roles first, as we've got Ronaldo and Giggs, Park plays out wide too.
AgentZero
27-05-2006, 00:58
i think Navas is a winger and can ploy attacking mid....he was pretty good for sevilla in the UEFA cup ... he could fill in for scholesy
Keyser Soze
27-05-2006, 01:01
i think Navas is a winger and can ploy attacking mid....he was pretty good for sevilla in the UEFA cup ... he could fill in for scholesy
Navas is a completely different player to Scholes. Completely different.
Papa Lazarou
27-05-2006, 21:21
i still think there could be some profit in getting Owen Hargreaves...i really reckon he'd be great at United. And he's versatile as well!!
i still think there could be some profit in getting Owen Hargreaves...i really reckon he'd be great at United. And he's versatile as well!!
It is hard to say as he is normally terrible for England but not too bad for Bayern so it is a bit of a gamble.
i still think there could be some profit in getting Owen Hargreaves...i really reckon he'd be great at United. And he's versatile as well!!
You, my friend, have one of the worst footballing knowledge's on this planet. Close friend of Sven by any chance?
You, my friend, have one of the worst footballing knowledge's on this planet. Close friend of Sven by any chance?
:laugh:
Harsh but probably true. Its hard to judge this summer in terms of transfers as the club seem to be keeping everything so tight which is the best way to go about business I reckon.
Papa Lazarou
27-05-2006, 23:49
You, my friend, have one of the worst footballing knowledge's on this planet. Close friend of Sven by any chance?
Oh Ha Ha Ha very funny! Seriously, i do reckon Hargreaves is a decent player and i don't know why everyone dismisses him.
Keyser Soze
27-05-2006, 23:50
Oh Ha Ha Ha very funny! Seriously, i do reckon Hargreaves is a decent player and i don't know why everyone dismisses him.
Because he isn't very good, simple as. :huh:
Owen Hargraves? Papa, stock smoking the ganja!
Owen Hargraves? Papa, stock smoking the ganja!He's not needed though because as Papa says Darren Fletcher is a great player :happy:
He's not needed though because as Papa says Darren Fletcher is a great player :happy:
Oh yeh I forgot about Darren FELTCHer.
Looks like Quinton "DENZEL" Fortune is off to Celtic. Glad as I don't want Citeh or Bolton having him. To be honest I'd rather we kept him!
I know we won't as Fergie loves the guy, but we should get rid of Fletcher to Hearts or another Scottish club. I'm sure they'd love the Scotland international, and we could probably get in the region of £3m for him.
I know we won't as Fergie loves the guy, but we should get rid of Fletcher to Hearts or another Scottish club. I'm sure they'd love the Scotland international, and we could probably get in the region of £3m for him.
Then use that £3m to buy who? Even if we went for someone like Traore, Chelski would buy him just so we can't!
Oooo, I've got an idea :tongue:
AgentZero
28-05-2006, 13:18
opinion needed lads
Who should partner Rio for next year ?
Vidic, Silvetre or Brown
I think Vidic is the right man for that spot..he's a no-nonsense hard man....
Keyser Soze
28-05-2006, 13:23
Wes Brown.
Wes Brown is better than Vidic no question, obviously its the injuries that often keep him out of the team rather than the competition.
-Jamster-
28-05-2006, 13:32
Brown. The real hard man. ;)
Dr. Bob Kelso
28-05-2006, 15:02
http://www.football365.com/mediastore/Story_Images/F365_Homepage/Lookalikes/brownbrown.jpg
Yeah solid.
opinion needed lads
Who should partner Rio for next year ?
Vidic, Silvetre or Brown
I think Vidic is the right man for that spot..he's a no-nonsense hard man....
Wes Brown is better, he is quicker, he is a better tackler, his decision making is better and he can read the game much better. The only thing that Vidic is better than Brown at is heading and that is a tight contest.
You forgot about Gabriel Heinze, he can play in the centre of defence and he is solid
Is that Vidic anygood? we were interested in him just before he went to you'se.
You forgot about Gabriel Heinze, he can play in the centre of defence and he is solid
Yeah but we need him at left back as he is very good going forwards and putting crosses in also Evra hasn't been to good so we need to put a proven class left back there.
Is that Vidic anygood? we were interested in him just before he went to you'se.
From what we've seen at United, then no. But you'll see if he is truely any good against the likes of Tevez,Ruud and Kezman in Germany.
From what we've seen at United, then no. But you'll see if he is truely any good against the likes of Tevez,Ruud and Kezman in Germany.
Kezman?? they are on the same team.
A Serb anit he?
Edit: Beaten too it, silly Haribo :laugh:.
Kaka22_kk
28-05-2006, 15:53
A Serb anit he?
No he's Montenegrin along with Vidic, and Zigic.
I'd say well over 85% of Serbia and Montenegro's squad are Montenegrin.
A Serb anit he?
Edit: Beaten too it, silly Haribo :laugh:.
I meant in training games :rolleyes:
muaha
Yeah he is Serbian but we will still see if he is any good as he is a starter for them, in Serbia's World Cup qualifying campaign they only conceeded one goal and Vidic played in every single one of those games so he must of been good then.
Papa Lazarou
28-05-2006, 16:05
Vidic is a quality defender, tough and no-nosnense. It's a tough decision between him and Brown. However, i think Fergie will use Vidic more, like he did at the end of last season.
No he's Montenegrin along with Vidic, and Zigic.
I'd say well over 85% of Serbia and Montenegro's squad are Montenegrin.
You got it wrong my Yank friend when i said that i actually ment Serbia and Montenegro's. And i was talking about Vidic.
Vidic is a quality defender, tough and no-nosnense. It's a tough decision between him and Brown. However, i think Fergie will use Vidic more, like he did at the end of last season.
Brown was picking up knocks and wasn't 100%. Fergie will prefer Brown to Vidic if both are fit and optional. Also Vidic is not a quality defender, far from it to be honest mate. Hes average at best from what we've all seen whereas Brown has been great when hes played.
All this "Vidic is a no-nonsense defender" bollocks is driving me loony! That no-nonsense also includes no-thinking. He jumps into tackles and gives away a hell of alot of free kicks. Brown is better than Vidic in every department.
How much was Vidic 7mil?
8 mil i think
Whatever it was, it was too much. Especially for a practically unknown defender who will act as backup to Rio and Wes.
You only paid that much for him because you offerd 2 million more than Fiorentina if i can remember rightly.
o0oGedo0o
28-05-2006, 20:16
I've read in a website: www.sport4ever.com, that there is an English wallpaper stated that Ronaldo wants to leave manchester to go to Real or Barca, anyone familiar with the news?
Dr. Bob Kelso
28-05-2006, 20:18
I've read in a website: www.sport4ever.com, that there is an English wallpaper stated that Ronaldo wants to leave manchester to go to Real or Barca, anyone familiar with the news?
Guilem Balague (LEGEND!) stated this months ago saying that Ronaldo is a "greedy boy" and does not like England and wants to leave seeing Real as a possible way out.
Guilem Balague (LEGEND!) stated this months ago saying that Ronaldo is a "greedy boy" and does not like England and wants to leave seeing Real as a possible way out.
Is that the fella off La Liga revisited? or am i so wrong??????
The Messiah
28-05-2006, 20:32
Yeah that him.
My memory is the BOMB.
So much so you thought I supported Arsenal a fortnight ago :erm:
I had a drink or two :erm:.
The story about Ronaldo wanting to go to Real or Barca is incredibly old. Probably a year or so old at the least and it basically re-visited bollocks.
Dr. Bob Kelso
28-05-2006, 22:03
The story about Ronaldo wanting to go to Real or Barca is incredibly old. Probably a year or so old at the least and it basically re-visited bollocks.
I'll believe the best Spanish pundit (if not best in the world) out there if it's all the same to you. ;)
Dr. Bob Kelso
28-05-2006, 22:05
Is that the fella off La Liga revisited? or am i so wrong??????
La Liga revisited it that some new period drama Sky Sports are bringing out ?
Revista De La Liga mate. :P
Meh, piss off. Was nearly right.
Guillem Balague is one of the only pundits I have any time for.
And yes, the story about Ronaldo WANTING to leave is about 6 months old. Still, there's renewed interet from Real Madrid as a presidential candidate is promising to bring in Ronaldo if he gets the job.
Let's face it, it would be a typical Real Madrid signing, but there's so much speculation about Real Madrid and their future plans it's hard to separate the media fabrication from the more likely.
The Messiah
28-05-2006, 22:17
Cash plus player i'd accept.
Cash plus the proper Ronaldo, Beckham and some more cash...then maybe.
Cristiano frustrates the fucking bijesus out of me. Plays quality every now and then, but nearly every game he feels the need to shoot from 35 yards out with his week foot! (yeh ok, one went in vs Pompski). Hopefully he'll start to live up to all the hype next season, as we can't rely on Rooney every game.
Ruud van Nistelrooy is wanted by Milan as a replacement for Chelsea bound Andriy Shevchenko - according to the News of the World.
The paper quotes a "Milan source", who "said": "Van Nistelrooy is the man we want. He is one of the few players in the world who could replace Sheva."
Which pretty much sums up the story in a punchy little paragraph with less than 30 words.
Billy Minof
29-05-2006, 10:04
I hope the Fuck that Real dont sign Christy(one trick pony)Ronaldo.
So overated its not even funny any more. Yes its true that he plays great from time to time.(against Sunderland/West Brom and whoever else is useless) but when he plays against the good teams or even half decent defenders who can read him then he always looks like he takes one too many touches.
And BTW there is no chance of getting the "Real" Ronaldo for him.
Papa Lazarou
29-05-2006, 15:51
I hope the Fuck that Real dont sign Christy(one trick pony)Ronaldo.
So overated its not even funny any more. Yes its true that he plays great from time to time.(against Sunderland/West Brom and whoever else is useless) but when he plays against the good teams or even half decent defenders who can read him then he always looks like he takes one too many touches.
And BTW there is no chance of getting the "Real" Ronaldo for him.
Why oh why does everyone slag off Ronaldo, he's another quality player who can produce some amazing things. All he needs is consistency which will come when he gets older.
We've been linked with ANOTHER winger, a french one this time...Ribery i think his name is. Personally i don't think that we need any more wingers and we do need CENTRAL midfielders
Why oh why does everyone slag off Ronaldo, he's another quality player who can produce some amazing things. All he needs is consistency which will come when he gets older.
We've been linked with ANOTHER winger, a french one this time...Ribery i think his name is. Personally i don't think that we need any more wingers and we do need CENTRAL midfieldersWatch Ribery play and then talk about how good Ronaldo is
Ribery is quality but i doubt we will get him. We dont really need Ribery we have Park Ji Sung and Ronaldo
Billy Minof
29-05-2006, 15:58
Why oh why does everyone slag off Ronaldo, he's another quality player who can produce some amazing things. All he needs is consistency which will come when he gets older.
We've been linked with ANOTHER winger, a french one this time...Ribery i think his name is. Personally i don't think that we need any more wingers and we do need CENTRAL midfielders
As I said Ronaldo plays well once in a blue moon against Mikey Mouse players but in the big games against good defenders he is rubbish.
Ribery is a V. Good winger, full of heart and very quick, made his French debut the other night and looked very dangerous and also looks like a dangerous bloke(like someone from the UFC), if he is up for sale then there wil be alot of teams after him.
Ribery is quality but i doubt we will get him. We dont really need Ribery we have Park Ji Sung and Ronaldo
Better than both of them. Easily.
Plus Ribery is just as attractive as Ronaldo, maybe even more so.
Plus Ribery is just as attractive as Ronaldo, maybe even more so.
I hope your talking in terms of football.
Ribery is better, but if we sold Ronaldo i have got a feeling that he will become a better player
I hope your talking in terms of football.
No way.
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/2659/020212660747040221a1395fd45043 .jpg (http://imageshack.us)
:w00t
God damn he is one ugly cunt. Its always the ugly ones that have a lot of talent Ribery, Tevez, Ronaldinho etc
God damn he is one ugly cunt. Its always the ugly ones that have a lot of talent Ribery, Tevez, Ronaldinho etcSeen as he was shot threw a car window as a child in a car crash i think you're being a tad harsh on him
Seen as he was shot threw a car window as a child in a car crash i think you're being a tad harsh on him
Exactly
Seen as he was shot threw a car window as a child in a car crash i think you're being a tad harsh on him
OH SHIT!!! i never knew that, if i did i wouldnt have said that
Billy Minof
29-05-2006, 17:02
Why not?
He is still an ugly fuck. :)
sukhy2004
29-05-2006, 17:13
Ribery is da man....he's too sick
imagine this midfield behind this attack -
C.Ronaldo------------M.Diarra----------Riquelme------------Ribery
----------------------Rooney----------Huntelaar-----------------
Ribery is da man....he's too sick
imagine this midfield behind this attack -
C.Ronaldo------------M.Diarra----------Riquelme------------Ribery
----------------------Rooney----------Huntelaar-----------------
thats a very good line up but that will never happen.
Riquelme- wouldnt make it in the prem
M.Diarra- he would be a very good replacement for Keane
Ribery- very good prospect he would be a good signing
Huntelaar- very good striker, i think he could replace Ruud but i think its too early to sign him now
Defender Phil Pickenmix has agreed a two year deal with Chesterfield.
He played 33 games for the Spireites after joining on loan from United last August.
That's the first of what's expected to be a deluge of players leaving the club
Foxhound
31-05-2006, 05:00
but nearly every game he feels the need to shoot from 35 yards out with his week foot!
:laugh: :laugh:
AgentZero
31-05-2006, 08:06
:laugh: whoa!!..Riquelme, Diarra, Huntelaar and Ribery....a bit optimistic aren't you???...Huntelaar for would never make it in to the 1st squad like that...theres Louis and Rossi....Riquelme and Diarra are too expensive and would not join united....as for ribery...haven't seen him play much is he that good touted as the next zidane i thoght cheyrou was ;)
PS: there is frther talk of Ronaldo quitting united....i would be really sad if he leaves..im hoping he'll become a red devil for the rest of his career or at least most of it.
Franck Ribery's agent claims there is a problem with Marseille chairman Pape Diouf and therefore his client wants to leave....saddened by the departure of l'OM coach Jean Fernandez.
The France winger is said to be one of the outstanding young talents in world football - and would act to soften the blow should Ronaldo depart for Real Madrid or Barcelona as is being reported. And of course Chelsea not decide to offer him higher wages than United.
And of course Chelsea not decide to offer him higher wages than United.
Chelski wouldn't do a horrible thing like that would they?
Man Utd boss Sir Alex Ferguson is to interrupt his summer holiday to look at transfer target Juan Roman Riquelme at the World Cup.
According to the Daily Mirror. I think he would be able to make it in the Premiership.
I don't. Another Argie Bargie midfielder who's used to time on the ball. Won't make it.
ecureuil
01-06-2006, 00:29
I don't. Another Argie Bargie midfielder who's used to time on the ball. Won't make it.
Completely agree. We need someone in the same vein as Keane, and Riquelme isn't that type of player.
Riquelme is a class act, end of. He's one of the best creative midfielder in the world, and takes freekicks and corners better than anyone else in La Liga. He'd be a welcome addition, and United have desperately needed a creative midfielder ever since the world-class Veron was sold.
Also... The rumours are persisting that assistant boss Carlos Queiroz will take the managerial vacancy Benfica.
Benfica are apparently keen to appoint him as a replacement to Ronald Koeman, who was sacked last month.
United fans would be split over the move - some thinking he disturbs the team spirit and is the real reason why Ruud is off, others feel that he's the reason why we played better football this year than last, and played better football in his first spell than at any time when McClaren had influence.
Whatever your thoughts most feel we should bring back Kiddo.
AgentZero
01-06-2006, 10:26
i thought the Quieroz rumours was quashed months ago when he clearly stated he wants to remain no.2 and rejected benfica...
...some thinking he disturbs the team spirit and is the real reason why Ruud is off...
ruud had a bust up with ronaldo over the treatment cristiano gets from carlos...but what would you expect, a winger that barely speaks english and a gafferette that speaks the same language and is pretty much now a father figure to the lad in a foreign enviroment...it just seems to me that ruud is a right wanker....
Riquelme is a class act, end of. He's one of the best creative midfielder in the world, and takes freekicks and corners better than anyone else in La Liga. He'd be a welcome addition, and United have desperately needed a creative midfielder ever since the world-class Veron was sold.
Also... The rumours are persisting that assistant boss Carlos Queiroz will take the managerial vacancy Benfica.
Benfica are apparently keen to appoint him as a replacement to Ronald Koeman, who was sacked last month.
United fans would be split over the move - some thinking he disturbs the team spirit and is the real reason why Ruud is off, others feel that he's the reason why we played better football this year than last, and played better football in his first spell than at any time when McClaren had influence.
Whatever your thoughts most feel we should bring back Kiddo.
Riquelme would be an amazing signing for us especially as he shouldn't be any more than £15 million. We also need a free kick specialist as at the moment nobody is really good enough.
ruud had a bust up with ronaldo over the treatment cristiano gets from carlos...but what would you expect, a winger that barely speaks english and a gafferette that speaks the same language and is pretty much now a father figure to the lad in a foreign enviroment...it just seems to me that ruud is a right wanker....Ronaldo has been here for 3 years now, shirley he should be able to speak the language now so i find that aload of bollocks
Dr. Bob Kelso
01-06-2006, 16:16
Man Utd boss Sir Alex Ferguson is to interrupt his summer holiday to look at transfer target Juan Roman Riquelme at the World Cup.
According to the Daily Mirror. I think he would be able to make it in the Premiership.
I'm not so sure. He wants all day on the ball and there is still the question over whether he lets his nerves get the better of him when it matters.
I wouldn't be too worried if you get him.
Meh, Veron wasnt a success....
ecureuil
01-06-2006, 16:23
Riquelme is a class act, end of. He's one of the best creative midfielder in the world, and takes freekicks and corners better than anyone else in La Liga. He'd be a welcome addition, and United have desperately needed a creative midfielder ever since the world-class Veron was sold.
But Veron was shit.. couldn't hack it in the Prem. What makes you think Riquelme would be any different?
Ronaldo has been here for 3 years now, shirley he should be able to speak the language now so i find that aload of bollocks
Some people obviously learn quicker than others, or he may have known all along he wanted a move to Barca in the near future. I've been doing German for 5 years now, and I can't speak it well, just about manage.
Some people obviously learn quicker than others, or he may have known all along he wanted a move to Barca in the near future. I've been doing German for 5 years now, and I can't speak it well, just about manage.Yes i was the same at French but that's because i didn't want to learn it and apply meself, but if your living in the country i think anyone who lives over here should be able to speak the language, but with Ronaldo's attitude and can see him not wanting to try
Billy Minof
01-06-2006, 16:57
Yes i was the same at French but that's because i didn't want to learn it and apply meself, but if your living in the country i think anyone who lives over here should be able to speak the language, but with Ronaldo's attitude and can see him not wanting to try
Well I know alot of Polish people who couldnt speak 1 word of english when they came here 5 months ago now they speak near perfect english.
I think that Ronaldo having Quirez there hasnt helped because if he was not there then he would have to learn it rather that rely on his translation.
Well I know alot of Polish people who couldnt speak 1 word of english when they came here 5 months ago now they speak near perfect english.
I think that Ronaldo having Quirez there hasnt helped because if he was not there then he would have to learn it rather that rely on his translation.They have an Orish twang on them? :laugh:
Billy Minof
01-06-2006, 17:06
They have an Orish twang on them? :laugh:
lol, the funniest thing ever. :D
lol, the funniest thing ever. :DOlly Bernard had a geordie twang on him, was funny as owt man :laugh:
Billy Minof
01-06-2006, 17:08
Its a cross between David O'Leary and Dolf Lundrum.:)
Its a cross between David O'Leary and Dolf Lundrum.:)I MUST BREAK YOU... and James Milner wants to stay here :blush:
Good to see Rooney back running and kicking a ball, hopefully he can now go on to have a big impact and then come back full of confidence and win us the title. (Doubtful)
But Veron was shit.. couldn't hack it in the Prem. What makes you think Riquelme would be any different?
Veron still provided another dimension to the United midfield. He was nowhere near his best for us, but his ability was still never in question, and selling him to Chelsea when we did was shortsighted and unneccessary.
He was a worldclass midfielder and by his standards, he didn't play well for us, but he was one of the most gifted midfielders I've ever seen at United and he's still a class above anything we have had since.
ecureuil
02-06-2006, 17:01
Veron still provided another dimension to the United midfield. He was nowhere near his best for us, but his ability was still never in question, and selling him to Chelsea when we did was shortsighted and unneccessary.
He was a worldclass midfielder and by his standards, he didn't play well for us, but he was one of the most gifted midfielders I've ever seen at United and he's still a class above anything we have had since.
Yeah, he was gifted no doubt, but you have to have a different kind of quality to play at United. Plenty of great players have been through Old Trafford and been phenomenal for other clubs after Utd. Recently there's been Forlan, who was pretty poor for United. I loved the guy, and I knew he was quality, but it just never worked out for him at the club. He's gone on to set La Liga alight, with rumours of Barcelona being interested in him! I'm just not overly convinced that Riquelme would have much of an impact at Old Trafford.
Viperized
02-06-2006, 18:07
Didn't Riquelme say he hates the aggressiveness and the physical style of the Premiership? I think it would stay in La Liga where the game is more techincal, and he prefers it like that.
One of the reasons why he is doing very well at Villarreal is because the team's style of play is built around him. He is a world-class midfielder without a doubt and is arguebly the best central attacking midfielder in Europe, but I don't think he would be a success in the Premiership. He could be a success, but I think thats unlikely.
Anyways, wouldn't Man Utd want a replacement for Keane, such as Diarra?
Didn't Riquelme say he hates the aggressiveness and the physical style of the Premiership? I think it would stay in La Liga where the game is more techincal, and he prefers it like that.
One of the reasons why he is doing very well at Villarreal is because the team's style of play is built around him. He is a world-class midfielder without a doubt and is arguebly the best central attacking midfielder in Europe, but I don't think he would be a success in the Premiership. He could be a success, but I think thats unlikely.
Anyways, wouldn't Man Utd want a replacement for Keane, such as Diarra?
Kaka? Gerrard?
No disrespect to Villarreal, but I'm sure it is not that hard of a job for Riquelme to stand out in that team.
But I agree with you saying that it is best for him to stay in La Liga and I don't think he would enjoy it much in the Premiership.
I can see Real going for him to replace Zidane and I can't see Sir Alex making a bid for him.
AgentZero
02-06-2006, 23:07
Ronaldo has been here for 3 years now, shirley he should be able to speak the language now so i find that aload of bollocks
well lets consider 2 thinsg here
1. does david beckham speak fluent spanish (or at all)
2. English is one of the hardest languages to learn
and just to back up my point
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGr08T-t9mg&search=cristiano%20ronaldo%20i nterview
as you can see his understanding of english isn't as crystal yet....let alone speaking to someone like SAF
Lord Shrimpeh
03-06-2006, 13:09
Well, he knows all the cliches ("I'm very happy today") and so he's perfectly fluent enough in English for post match interviews at least!
Papa Lazarou
03-06-2006, 16:21
On a bad note, John Obi Mikel has finally signed for Chelski...what a load of shit eh! He was literally stolen from us and lured by the money
It's pretty good that we got £12 million from it, more money to go and sign a class midfielder.
£12m for a player that wasn't really ours? Great business. Especially as it's now clear he's a selfish cunt.
Dr. Bob Kelso
03-06-2006, 17:06
12m from what I have seen will be a great bit of business.... you never know though.
He does look like a class player but it seems he makes bad decisions as he would have played more at United, he obviously just wanted the money and to sit on the bench.
AgentZero
03-06-2006, 23:25
he is a Bludger....he's the type that sits on his ass and eats up government subsidies.....bastard.
Our interest in Martins has been confirmed as well as Newcastle and Tottenham wanting him, he is the sort of striker who could score 20+ goals a season so he is the sort of player we should be going for.
http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=392256&CPID=21&clid=1&lid=&title=Martins+interest+confirm ed
He's the type of player who is fast as fuck but shit at shooting. We already have that in Ronaldo :tongue:
He's the type of player who is fast as fuck but shit at shooting. We already have that in Ronaldo :tongue:No because Martins doesn't over elaborate at every available opportunity ;)
I wouldn't mind him, being young and he can develop a lot. I don't want him as a replacement for Ruud though. If we must sell a striker then let it be Louis.
Don't sell Loius Haha. We might need him to win the Mickey Mouse Cup again next season! :tongue:
AgentZero
05-06-2006, 09:35
a cups a cup.....i know it may not be a FA but we still get a nice sum of money for our troubles....
A nice sum that can contribute to a player like Taribo West as Chelski will just go over the top of our bids to stop us getting who we want.
That said they might go over the top for a bid on West too.
Keyser Soze
06-06-2006, 22:20
Our interest in Martins has been confirmed as well as Newcastle and Tottenham wanting him, he is the sort of striker who could score 20+ goals a season so he is the sort of player we should be going for.
No, not really.
Agreed.
We've been linked with Eider recently, as have Barca to replace the departed Larsson.
Barca would be his first choice (one can only assume) but hopefully the better chance of playing more regularly might tempt him to OT.
He may only be able to do a job for a short time, I can only see us getting him as a gap filler for the mean time. We'll replace Eid in a year or two if we do buy him. I'd like to see bids for Mascherano and Ribery, although we may have already put in some bids. We seem to be doing business privately which is good for obvious reasons, but it also makes it hard for us to predict the next star coming to OT. I wouldn't be too dissapointed if Ronaldo and Ruud were sold, Ruud is reaching the end of his career at his peak and Ronaldo has great potential but we can get better in the market.
Our interest in Martins has been confirmed as well as Newcastle and Tottenham wanting him, he is the sort of striker who could score 20+ goals a season so he is the sort of player we should be going for.
I don't agree Martins could score 20 goals in a season, he's pacy and skillful but for me, mainly a supporting striker rather than a goal-getter.
Duisburg are signing United reserve team captain Markus Neumayr after he was surprisingly released at the end of the season.
He can play in either centre midfield or on the right, and captained the United treble-winning reserve team last season.
Not sure why we released him to be honest.
Billy Minof
07-06-2006, 20:47
I don't agree Martins could score 20 goals in a season, he's pacy and skillful but for me, mainly a supporting striker rather than a goal-getter.
He has potential very quick but not much of a brain IMO, another Cisse anyone...
No. Martins has two legs that aren't broken. Cisse only has one :tongue:
Harsh joke I know. My apologies.
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