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vanNistelrooy
12-08-2006, 14:09
Mutv
Fuck that i'm watching it online, isit true that Rooney and Scholes could miss the 1st game of the season?
Fuck that i'm watching it online, isit true that Rooney and Scholes could miss the 1st game of the season?
Nope.
It was from the Maccabi Haifa game from a few years ago. As we also no longer have:
Ricardo
Phil Neville
Forlan
Carroll
May
Pugh
Roche
Lynch
Nardiello
Timms
Okay.. Don't know whats got into me.. i seriously think i need to sleep more often :erm:
Fuck that i'm watching it online, isit true that Rooney and Scholes could miss the 1st game of the season?
Please tell me how you are watching it online?
Please tell me how you are watching it online?
www.footballstreaming.info
You have to sign up to watch the match
mufcsean
12-08-2006, 15:28
I cant watch any matches as i cant find them, how do i find them, please help me :(
vanNistelrooy
12-08-2006, 15:43
At a guess...
van der Sar
Bardsley
Silvestre
Brown
Heinze
Giggs
Scholes
Park
Ronaldo
Saha
Solskjaer
10 of out 11 isn't too bad!
van der Sar, Bardsley, Brown, Silvestre, Heinze, Ronaldo, Scholes, O'Shea, Park, Giggs (captain), Saha
Subs: Kuszczak, Evra, Miller, Rossi, Solskjaer, Richardson, Jones.
Good game actually jones looked good when he came on and so did Evra who seems to be playing with confidence, not to mention the likes of ronaldo and Park playing well.
Good to see Saha and Ronaldo both getting a goal, Jones is looking like a pretty good prospect.
vanNistelrooy
12-08-2006, 18:22
When the goals get uploaded online please can someone post the link up. Thanks.
Phatmann
12-08-2006, 23:51
Looks like Rossi might be wearing the number 19 shirt this season, but i'm not 100% sure on this as the 1st team numbers on manutd.com haven't been updated in a while (Howard is still number 1)
Richardson actually looked decent when he came on today; he's improved a lot recently. Let's hope he can play like he did on the last game of last season a lot more often. David Jones didn't look great when he came on, but got lucky with the goal (the keeper :laugh: ) but it seemed that he had a bandage on his arm, so maybe that's why we haven't seen enough of him really in pre-season.
Kuszczak looked alright, didn't have much to do, but held onto 2 powerful shots, which is encouraging I guess. Park looked as energetic as ever, and Saha took his goal well, and was overall ok.
mufcsean
13-08-2006, 00:20
Didn't see the game but from the result i'm happy :D
Dr. Bob Kelso
13-08-2006, 00:45
When the goals get uploaded online please can someone post the link up. Thanks.
They are wonder strikes. Honest. :)
man u aint scum u fool, we will win da prem
What are you on about mate?
Read rafas sig'.
Also its good to hear Gerrard talking bullshit in his auto-bio', i might pre order Theo walcotts new one aswell.:rolleyes:
Theo Walcott is bringing out an autobiography at the age of 17, he must of had a pretty interesting life so far.
What are you on about mate?
rafalution sed manc scum u prick, read it
Calm down man I didn't see it.
Dr. Bob Kelso
13-08-2006, 02:23
rafalution sed manc scum u prick, read it
You see this people ? This is what mobile phones are doing to our society. I warned you but now it's too late.
mufcsean
13-08-2006, 02:30
Just seen the goals, the last 2 were rather lucky to be honest, but oh well a goal is a goal
It's my understanding from two different HP's that United are in talks with Owen Hargreaves. Both say that he'll be coming to the club and that the Senna deal is still on.
I was away last week so I don't know which stories anybody's commented on, but looks like United have almost definitely signed Senna. The craic was always the same all along. He wanted to leave, and had agreed terms with United, but the club were reluctant to sell.
As for Valencia and Ronaldo. They want him and are rightly convinced that he wants to leave Old Trafford. They hadn't realised that United's defence is sorted and that Ayala is no longer the attraction to Ferguson he would have been three years ago. Great player, but at 33 he'd be a Blanc.
Oh... and Gerrard has been running his annoying little mouth again about our Ronaldo. Apparently he's a 'disgrace' because he wanted Portugal to beat Ingurlund in the world cup. The sanctimonious shite that Gerrard served up shows just what a moral coward the weak scouse prick is. A year ago he promised Chelsea he'd be joining them, and then a few people got on his case in his inbred little town and the next minute he's back kissing his badge.
The moment Lampard, the country's best midfielder (sic) missed Ingerlands first penalty Gerrards less than broad shoulders slumped to the floor and his face pulled the sort of gurn we associate with his rat featured region. His bottle had gone.
The real problem was that Gerrard and Lampard failed in every game to step up to the plate, and in the case of Gerrard actually physically shrank when the onus was put on him. So he had to find someone to blame....just in case people realised he and a couple of other scousers had contrived to ensure the 'forty years of hurt' continues.
Edit... Last night was encouraging. The new keeper played well, and Ronaldo was brilliant.
AgentZero
13-08-2006, 09:12
good comment about gerrard, i see why the twat was overlooked for england captain.
vanNistelrooy
13-08-2006, 10:48
Rossi number 19 shirt? Would that mean VDS gets the number 1 shirt?
Guillermo
13-08-2006, 11:37
It's my understanding from two different HP's that United are in talks with Owen Hargreaves. Both say that he'll be coming to the club and that the Senna deal is still on.
Hargreaves for 8m :no:
Oh, and Ruud scored his first goal for Real last night.
AgentZero
13-08-2006, 11:58
Rossi number 19 shirt? Would that mean VDS gets the number 1 shirt?
wasn't VDS no.1 last year?
Guillermo
13-08-2006, 11:59
wasn't VDS no.1 last year?
Tim Howard was. I'm guessing with him out of the frame Van Der Sar will take the number 1 shirt.
Who will be taking penalties this season? I guess it might be Scholes or Ronaldo.
vanNistelrooy
13-08-2006, 13:21
Well I've never seen Ronaldo hit a bad penalty so I'd prefer him.
mufcsean
13-08-2006, 13:31
VDS is number 1, why we getting Senna and Hargreaves, both play a similar game, oh well who gives a shit about what Gerrard said, he is scouse scum, is Rossi definately number 19, and i think it will be Ronaldo after some of the ones he hit at the WC
Dr. Bob Kelso
13-08-2006, 13:33
good comment about gerrard, i see why the twat was overlooked for england captain.
The amount of narrow minded idiotic comments in here abosultely astound....
Oh wait I'm on the manc forum.
Long live Ronaldo that bastion of Football and Liam Miller truly was meant to be the next Roy Keane.
Nobhead.
As Captain, Steven Gerrard has lifted more trophies than anyone in the same time period including the trophy that has eluded a side with all the money in the world (he did it by leading by example) and since you say we are so shit and a one man team surely this singles him out for special praise ? You can't have it both way. I was also under the impression that a match had 120 mins (if it went to E.T) and also that even the best could miss penalties. Was Baggio shit ? Did John Terry step up for a penalty ?
As for your rat featured region comment half the mancs on this site drool over Jenny Ellison because you think that is as good as it gets. Me I went to school with her and she wasn't even the fittest bird in our year.
You post up some fit manc birds and I guarentee the scouse birds are well fitter. I mean just take a look at Corrie ffs not a proper fit bird in site.
If you were talking about males then I think that says more about you than the players. ;) Unless they are Luke Chadwick circus freak ugly then why would you care?
I wonder if you hate scousers so much and there "Rat features" then why did you break the bank on one to save your side you hypocritical twat.
I've got respect for you Rafa, I think you know that but I think it might be best if you miss out this thread for a bit until as these pointless arguments die down.
http://frank.racefreaks.nl/express.JPG
If this indeed does happen then the title race is as on as ever.
vanNistelrooy
13-08-2006, 13:51
I could look at Jennifer Ellison all day long. If she talked however she'd be attractive as Jeremy Beadle.
Dr. Bob Kelso
13-08-2006, 13:56
I've got respect for you Rafa, I think you know that but I think it might be best if you miss out this thread for a bit until as these pointless arguments die down.
http://frank.racefreaks.nl/express.JPG
If this indeed does happen then the title race is as on as ever.
I understand what you mean but not a chance.
I don' think you will get Torres as he said he was staying but Diarra is a real possibility if the price is right.
I could look at Jennifer Ellison all day long. If she talked however she'd be attractive as Jeremy Beadle.
Scouse wouldn't be at the top of the accents of my birds either.
Papa Lazarou
13-08-2006, 14:25
so now we're linked with Hargreaves, Senna and Diarra in midfield. Out of those i'd have Hargreaves personally as Senna is a bit old and Diarra may be a risk for the amount of money they want for him (we don't want a £23million Djemba-Djemba!)
and we're also linked with Torres and Adriano, out of them i'd go for Torres as he's young, energetic and someone who would excell under SAF
Why does everyone think buying Diarra will be a risk? I know we will pay a lot of money for him but I think it is a risk worth taking if we want to compete with Chelsea
It is a risk as he has rarely played at the highest level so we are not sure if he can compete.
Guillermo
13-08-2006, 14:33
so now we're linked with Hargreaves, Senna and Diarra in midfield. Out of those i'd have Hargreaves
:laugh: :laugh:
Well if reports are accurate then the fee for Diarra would be around the £15-18m mark. A very good deal if you ask me, Hargreaves would definetely cost more than just £8m, especially now Munich have lost another valuable midfielder in Ballack.
I'd welcome Diarra with open arms and out of Torres and Adriano, only a retarded 10 year old might pick Adriano purely for the fact hes Brazilian, but saying that 'maybe' is the key word. I'd have Torres anyday.
I think the overall £35m would go like this:
Diarra - £15m
Torres - £20m
Papa Lazarou
13-08-2006, 14:42
:laugh: :laugh:
i don't see whats so funny, i mean i don't really rate Senna and he's 30 already
Also i reckon Diarra would be too expensive and risky...also think about it this way, the money we would save buying Hargreaves instead of Diarra we could use to buy a striker, especially to lodge a sizeable bid for Torres
I was also under the impression that a match had 120 mins (if it went to E.T) and also that even the best could miss penalties. Was Baggio shit ? Did John Terry step up for a penalty ?
Erm, no. Baggio scored 5 goals in '94 and lead Italy to the final. Gerrard was wank in every Ingerlund game, missed a penalty, then blamed Ingerlund's loss on a player who did nothing more than want his team to win.
Stevie G's a true scouser though, isn't he? That's why he promised he'd join Chewsee, only to change his mind, and why he's giving his story to News of the World.
And don't even pretend that there's a scouser who doesn't look like a rat.
vanNistelrooy
13-08-2006, 14:58
And don't even pretend that there's a scouser who doesn't look like a rat.
:lol:
As Fat Frank would put it "WE LOVE IT".
Dr. Bob Kelso
13-08-2006, 18:44
Erm, no. Baggio scored 5 goals in '94 and lead Italy to the final. Gerrard was wank in every Ingerlund game, missed a penalty, then blamed Ingerlund's loss on a player who did nothing more than want his team to win.
Stevie G's a true scouser though, isn't he? That's why he promised he'd join Chewsee, only to change his mind, and why he's giving his story to News of the World.
And don't even pretend that there's a scouser who doesn't look like a rat.
So Gerrard was wank was he ? Fuck off you retard England were shite and Gerrards play was the result of mismanagement. Anyone with half a brain could see that.
At no point did he "promise" to join Chelski. What about the NOTW ? Don't give me that Sunday S*n bullshit as it simply isn't true.
What part of Manchester are you from anyway or are you just another that came off the boat to get on another ?
That's a quality comeback that by the way, what are you gonna do next pull a tongue at me and say ner ner ner ner ner ner. Fuck off you pleb you're below me.
:lol:
As Fat Frank would put it "WE LOVE IT".
Yeah I would have thought you would be eager to shove your dick up his ass for that one it's about your level.
7RONALDO7
13-08-2006, 19:54
What do people think of the rumors that we are after Hargreaves?
I personally will kill Fergie and Hargreaves if we even put in a bid! I cannot see how such a shit player will help inprove United. Hargreaves makes me feel sick and also does the fact that we are interested in him!!!
You look at Chelsea and Liverpool etc who have Makalale and Sissoko and were thinking of Hargreaves!!!!
Guillermo
13-08-2006, 20:09
So Gerrard was wank was he ? Fuck off you retard England were shite and Gerrards play was the result of mismanagement. Anyone with half a brain could see that.
Hargreaves and Carrick were used as defensive midfielders in the tournament giving Gerrard freedom to attack. But like most of the team, he failed to perform. Wank would be a good summarisation though.
Has Kuszczak played a United game yet?
Has Kuszczak played a United game yet?
he played yesterday
Nice. How was he? Did he concede a goal? What do you think about him for his first game?
Nice. How was he? Did he concede a goal? What do you think about him for his first game?
Nope he didnt concede a goal which was good
He held on to a few good shots but he really didn't have a lot to do. I didn't realise how young he was I always thought he was 28.
Kuszczak is 24 I believe, great for the future. I'm really hoping a lot from this man, hope he delivers. :)
Is his jersey number still 29?
Dr. Bob Kelso
13-08-2006, 21:39
I was impressed with him last season but as I already said he does remind me a lot of Kirkland. This may not necessarily be a bad thing but Kirkland was found out very quickly and for people who think it was just injuries it wasn't. He was truly shocking from setpieces.
If you had the choice would you take Kusczak or Boruc or dare I say Isaksson?
mufcsean
13-08-2006, 21:45
Yes he is number 29, see :D
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/6965/kuszczaksm3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I was impressed with him last season but as I already said he does remind me a lot of Kirkland. This may not necessarily be a bad thing but Kirkland was found out very quickly and for people who think it was just injuries it wasn't. He was truly shocking from setpieces.
If you had the choice would you take Kusczak or Boruc or dare I say Isaksson?
I'd take Kusczak. You mentioned three great keepers. But from what I've seen from him so far, he's been excellent. You can never be sure though, he needs to play very well consistently and then he can be deemed as a good keeper. All my hopes are on him, don't know why, I just see something special in Tomasz. :tongue:
Dr. Bob Kelso
13-08-2006, 21:58
I'd take Kusczak. You mentioned three great keepers. But from what I've seen from him so far, he's been excellent. You can never be sure though, he needs to play very well consistently and then he can be deemed as a good keeper. All my hopes are on him, don't know why, I just see something special in Tomasz. :tongue:
Fair enough. For what it is worth I would take Isaksson as he is already very close to world class and will be the best in the world in a few years I reckon.
Fair enough. For what it is worth I would take Isaksson as he is already very close to world class and will be the best in the world in a few years I reckon.
Yeah, and now that he is at City, we'll be able to see more of him. He was class at Rennes. But you are damn right about him being world class, he already is his country's number 1 keeper at this young age. Which reminds me of Akinfeev, another great keeper. Hope he plays in the Premiership one day aswell.
mufcsean
13-08-2006, 23:32
Is Rennes where Cech played for, if so they have let two world class (or soon to be in Issaksons case) keepers in the past couple of seasons
Yeah Cech did play for Rennes, Rennes must have a good goalkeeper scout.
mufcsean
13-08-2006, 23:39
Wonder who will be there next big keeper, hopefully we will sign him whoever it is, although we have just bought Kuszczak but i dont trust him since he let a goal in from the other box against Colombia
Yeah but there was a terrible bobble which made the ball loop over him so he can't be tottaly blamed. I can still remember his save of the season last year against Wigan.
vanNistelrooy
13-08-2006, 23:46
Yeah I would have thought you would be eager to shove your dick up his ass for that one it's about your level.
Shut up, rat face.
What do people think of the rumors that we are after Hargreaves?
I personally will kill Fergie and Hargreaves if we even put in a bid! I cannot see how such a shit player will help inprove United. Hargreaves makes me feel sick and also does the fact that we are interested in him!!!
You look at Chelsea and Liverpool etc who have Makalale and Sissoko and we're thinking of Hargreaves!!!!
Were you watching the Portugal game with your eyes closed? Hargreaves was England's best player. He was actually voted England's player of the tournament.
Ask yourself what United need right now and it is a bulldog who can break up attacks and snap at the heels of other teams' creative players. Then distribute the ball well to our creative players. Hargreaves fits the bill, is cheaper than Diarra, English, would settle quicker and, and overall give everything for the club and fans. That is what we need. I would be happy to see Hargreaves in a United shirt.
In Hargreaves and Carrick I honestly believe we can have the English Gattuso and Pirlo partnership.
On a side note, Rafa if you're going to post in this thread please try not to turn it into a manc - scouse pointless argument, a waste of everyones' time. Personally it fucks me off that footballer's are becoming the cash cows that bring out auto/biographies during their career. They should be written at the end of their career ffs. 'My story so far' fuck off. They only say out there comments to generate critique and interest to boost sales.
Viperized
14-08-2006, 00:44
What do people think of the rumors that we are after Hargreaves?
I personally will kill Fergie and Hargreaves if we even put in a bid! I cannot see how such a shit player will help inprove United. Hargreaves makes me feel sick and also does the fact that we are interested in him!!!
You look at Chelsea and Liverpool etc who have Makalale and Sissoko and were thinking of Hargreaves!!!!
Have you even seen Hargreaves play for Bayern Munich? He is a very good defensive midfielder, as shown by his performance against Portugal. His positioning is quite good, and he could run around all day - he has got pace and stamina. He is also a quite versatile player as he can play on the wings or as a fullback if required. He is also quite young - I think he is 25 years old.
Although the quality of the Bundasliga isn't as good as the Premiership, it is notable that he is a decent midfielder. For £8m he seems like a good buy.
7RONALDO7
14-08-2006, 02:02
Ok, I guess I was abit harsh on him, he hasnt "that" bad but....
I saw him agaisnt Portugal and yes he played very good. But if you seen hes other games that he has played for England, he has been dire. United cannot afford to have an inconsistant player this season.
There are plenty of other quailty DM players that United should go after, such as Mascherano etc...
I would just hate to see Hargreveas in a United shirt.
Mascha' would be excellent, but i cant see it.
Owen has only had one good performance for England, cant buy him on the basis of that.
So Gerrard was wank was he ? Fuck off you retard England were shite and Gerrards play was the result of mismanagement. Anyone with half a brain could see that.
Call it what you fucking want, he was terrible in every world cup game. Ingurlund were shite. Gerrard and Lampard were shite too.
At no point did he "promise" to join Chelski.
He handed in a transfer request stating that he wanted to join Chewsee.
What about the NOTW ? Don't give me that Sunday S*n bullshit as it simply isn't true.
They put together and released his autobigoraphy you fucking whopper.
What part of Manchester are you from anyway or are you just another that came off the boat to get on another ?
Urmstone. Unfortunately I don't have my 'PesInsight birth cerftificate proving I'm a mancunian' to hand, but I'm willing to guess I've been a United ST holder longer than you've been a Liverpool ST holder.
That's a quality comeback that by the way, what are you gonna do next pull a tongue at me and say ner ner ner ner ner ner. Fuck off you pleb you're below me.
What the fook are you on about?
Ok, I guess I was abit harsh on him, he hasnt "that" bad but....
I saw him agaisnt Portugal and yes he played very good. But if you seen hes other games that he has played for England, he has been dire. United cannot afford to have an inconsistant player this season.
There are plenty of other quailty DM players that United should go after, such as Mascherano etc...
I would just hate to see Hargreveas in a United shirt.
Hargreaves has been inconsistent for England in years gone by that is true. There is a reason for that and that reason is Sven. The trouble with Hargreaves' versatility is he gets played in all the positions except that which he is best, DMF. Sven would often bring him on in the last 10-20 mins of a game, usually when England weren't playing well. This usually coincided with bringing off other good first team players. This all added together makes it hard to make a proper impact and, being the fickle arse fans we English are, we ignore the real reasons and find our scapegoat and that was Hargreaves.
If you give Hargreaves a starting position in DMF, he WILL perform. That I am sure. Mascherano would also be excellent, but hey Hargreaves would be cheaper and less of a gamble. No language barriers etc, and he will wear the shirt with pride, he's the type of player that would probably spend the rest of his career here if he performs well enough for the manager. It's just a shame SAF missed the boat on Scott Parker before he went to Newcastle.
AgentZero
14-08-2006, 12:35
i think Rafalutionary its time for you, to not troll around in this thread anymore.
Dr. Bob Kelso
14-08-2006, 13:59
Call it what you fucking want, he was terrible in every world cup game. Ingurlund were shite. Gerrard and Lampard were shite too.
He handed in a transfer request stating that he wanted to join Chewsee.
They put together and released his autobigoraphy you fucking whopper.
Urmstone. Unfortunately I don't have my 'PesInsight birth cerftificate proving I'm a mancunian' to hand, but I'm willing to guess I've been a United ST holder longer than you've been a Liverpool ST holder.
What the fook are you on about?
If want constitutes a promise then I promise I will shag Eva Mendes.
I know they did and why should I care was the point you blert.
I'm willing to guess that if that is true since I don't have a ST as no one in my family had one and our waiting list is bigger than yours.
@los galacticos I don't troll I comment and it's a forum so I will go where I wish when I please. If someone has a pop I will have one back. Don't like it then don't have a pop. Pretty simple really.
Hargreaves has been inconsistent for England in years gone by that is true. There is a reason for that and that reason is Sven. The trouble with Hargreaves' versatility is he gets played in all the positions except that which he is best, DMF. Sven would often bring him on in the last 10-20 mins of a game, usually when England weren't playing well. This usually coincided with bringing off other good first team players. This all added together makes it hard to make a proper impact and, being the fickle arse fans we English are, we ignore the real reasons and find our scapegoat and that was Hargreaves.
If you give Hargreaves a starting position in DMF, he WILL perform. That I am sure. Mascherano would also be excellent, but hey Hargreaves would be cheaper and less of a gamble. No language barriers etc, and he will wear the shirt with pride, he's the type of player that would probably spend the rest of his career here if he performs well enough for the manager. It's just a shame SAF missed the boat on Scott Parker before he went to Newcastle.
As you mention Hargreaves is also a utility option when the shit hits the fan and he also has a very underrated knack of scoring wonderful freekicks.
Papa Lazarou
14-08-2006, 18:40
I've always been a fan of Hargreaves...i say get him SAF!!
Guillermo
14-08-2006, 20:40
I say shut up.
mufcsean
14-08-2006, 23:25
I say dont bother trying to get him, all of a sudden he is a world class player and people are saying things about him when they know fuck all about him, just becuase he had one good game at the world cup doesnt make him a world class player, he didn't do that well for bayern last year, and about Gerrard, he wasnt at his best at the World Cup but that is simply because he and FAT FRANK cant play together as they both play similar postions, now that Beckham isnt in the England squad i think gerrard should play on the Right with Lampard and it should be Parker joining him but seen as he hasnt had a call up it will be Hargreaves, so maybe we can do better, and i hope hargreaves does well as i thgink he took it well when he was getting booed, so maybe now he can play well as he hasn't got as much pressure on him, but i would rather sign Mascherano for United but he would be a lot dearer
mascherano is fuckin miles better than hargreaves, true sean. hargreaves was class, at the start i was like y is that cunt goin but i take it back now. but it wouldnt take much 4 him to start playin shit again
I would rather we got someone like Cambiasso as he is a proven player and can play at the highest level. Also I expect he would cost around £8 million so he would be a good buy.
mufcsean
15-08-2006, 01:34
But will he adapt to the Premiership, its the same for a lot of Argentinians, they dont adapt to the Premiership, and yes i know Mascherano is Argentinian, which is why i think he will cost too much as he is too much of a risk
It is rarely defensive players who find it hard to adjust, it is more commonly attacking player so I think Cambiasso would be a good signing.
TheBishop
15-08-2006, 12:05
Rossi wanting to return to Italy in the future.
http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=409905&CPID=8&clid=1&lid=2&title=Rossi+dreams+of+Italy+re turn
I think if he doesn't get his chance at Old Trafford over the next year or 2, it may be sooner rather than later.
AgentZero
15-08-2006, 12:45
with the lack of quality strikers (at the moment) i think rossi will shine this year
vanNistelrooy
15-08-2006, 13:28
You damn right bitch.
Papa Lazarou
15-08-2006, 19:37
I just hope Rossi means when he's 35 and too old for the premiership after guiding us to back-to-back champs league trophies and another treble!!
mack10souljah
15-08-2006, 20:36
I just hope Rossi means when he's 35 and too old for the premiership after guiding us to back-to-back champs league trophies and another treble!!
Amen
Hopefully Rossi he will get his chance
Some bad news Rooney and Scholes have been banned for three matches
vanNistelrooy
15-08-2006, 22:13
Bad news is the bans don't come into play till the second game, therefore they miss the Spurs match!
y the fuck is rooney banned, he shudn't av been sent off, that referee was a cunt
An utter disgrace as far as the disciplinary system goes. It's a fucking joke. Rooney's red was unintentional, any prick can see that. He didn't take his eye off the ball once when he was challenging for the ball. But because his name is Wayne Rooney, he's banned for three games. Scholes' is less debatible to be fair, but then he's just a clumsy tackler and the second should've been a yellow rather than a straight red. And what's all this about bans from friendly matches? WTF is up with that?
In extreme circumstances yeah ban them (e.g. Geoff Horsefield the other day or Di Canio pushing the ref or something).
Anyone else angry at this? I'm of the feeling Rooney is now being targeted because of his image and reputation and that just shouldn't happen. I was watching the community shield on Sunday and I saw incidents such as Lampard's petty kick on Zenden and wondered what Rooney would've got if it had been him.
In the end though, as someone has already highlighted, it could be a blessing in disguise to push SAF into getting the extra CMF and CF we need.
AgentZero
15-08-2006, 22:48
I just hope Rossi means when he's 35 and too old for the premiership after guiding us to back-to-back champs league trophies and another treble!!
not optimistic at all
What in the fuck kind of decision is that? The Portuguese greasy cunt dived like a wanker!
The only reason I can think of is because its Man Utd.
Stella Artois
15-08-2006, 22:56
Scholes' is less debatible to be fair, but then he's just a clumsy tackler and the second should've been a yellow rather than a straight red. And what's all this about bans from friendly matches? WTF is up with that?
He'd already been shown a yellow card you spastic.
The ref chose to give him a straight red for some reason, despite the fact he'd been booked.
He'd already been shown a yellow card you spastic.
The ref chose to give him a straight red for some reason, despite the fact he'd been booked.
He got a straight red for the second one, hence the three match ban. If he'd got a second yellow instead of a straight red then the ban, if any, would have been less. Who's the spastic now?
Stella Artois
15-08-2006, 23:40
The tackle was worth a straight red anyway. Even if he got a second yellow he'd still be banned.
Shush.
Papa Lazarou
16-08-2006, 01:04
the bans are very bad news as we will now be without Carrick for the first match and now Rooney an Scholes for 3 games, we will need another striker now cause i don't think Ole is fit enough to start with Saha just yet
What in the fuck kind of decision is that? The Portuguese greasy cunt dived like a wanker!
The only reason I can think of is because its Man Utd.
spot on
AgentZero
16-08-2006, 04:46
or because its wayne rooney.
An utter disgrace as far as the disciplinary system goes. It's a fucking joke. Rooney's red was unintentional, any prick can see that. He didn't take his eye off the ball once when he was challenging for the ball. But because his name is Wayne Rooney, he's banned for three games. Scholes' is less debatible to be fair, but then he's just a clumsy tackler and the second should've been a yellow rather than a straight red. And what's all this about bans from friendly matches? WTF is up with that?
In extreme circumstances yeah ban them (e.g. Geoff Horsefield the other day or Di Canio pushing the ref or something).
Anyone else angry at this? I'm of the feeling Rooney is now being targeted because of his image and reputation and that just shouldn't happen. I was watching the community shield on Sunday and I saw incidents such as Lampard's petty kick on Zenden and wondered what Rooney would've got if it had been him.
In the end though, as someone has already highlighted, it could be a blessing in disguise to push SAF into getting the extra CMF and CF we need.
The bans were an absoloute joke, though it's really no surprise with the fat scouse cunt Barwick in charge of the FA now.
Still Chelsea are hardly likely to curry much favour with the FA, and as long as Liverpool continue on their forlorn effort to be number one again I guess we'll just have to get used to every trick in the book being used to give them help.
Edit...
If want constitutes a promise then I promise I will shag Eva Mendes.
I know they did and why should I care was the point you blert.
I'm willing to guess that if that is true since I don't have a ST as no one in my family had one and our waiting list is bigger than yours.
The point is that it's amusing to hear the weak scouse prick Gerrard complain about the moral outrage of Ronaldo's actions in an attempt to shift the blame from his terrible perfomances, including missing a penatly.
This is coming from a man who ran scared of a Liverpool mob, ditched his club then 'mysteriously' changed his mind; the man whose partner and mother of his child is arrested for a bottle assault... Interesting set of morals scousers have.
http://www.eurosport.co.uk/football/bundesliga/2006-2007/sport_sto945192.shtml
Hargreaves wants to come to us
Miguel SC
16-08-2006, 12:54
Now Adriano and Hargreaves have been strongly linked with Man Utd...that would be perfect and would make a powerful squad.
Guillermo
16-08-2006, 12:56
Here's hoping he breaks his leg tonight. Or at the very least puts on a shit performance to convince Ferige otherwise.
Here's hoping he breaks his leg tonight. Or at the very least puts on a shit performance to convince Ferige otherwise.
Whats with all this hate towards Hargreaves?
Guillermo
16-08-2006, 12:59
Whats with all this hate towards Hargreaves?
I don't like him, don't think he's a good player and I don't think he'd improve United in any way whatsoever. He'd only be a squad player, not good enough for first team. He should be playing for a team 6th to 10th, not championship contenders.
United 'make move' for Hargreaves
Owen Hargreaves has been quoted in the German press as saying he has received a "fantastic" offer from Manchester United.
The 25-year-old England star - who is due to feature in central midfield in Wednesday's friendly with Greece at Old Trafford - claimed earlier this week he was as close to completing a move to the Premiership than he had ever been.
Hargreaves only recently signed a lucrative contract extension with Bayern Munich but has never made any secret of the fact he would like join an English club at some stage in his career.
Although he spoke in general terms on Monday about that desire, without revealing which, if any, clubs had expressed a firm interest.
However, it is now reported Sir Alex Ferguson has made a move for the Canadian-born midfielder, who has spent all his professional career with Bayern.
And, with just a fortnight to go before the transfer window closes, Germany's Sport Bild magazine claims Hargreaves is sorely tempted by the prospect of joining the Red Devils.
"The offer from Manchester United is fantastic," Hargreaves is quoted as saying.
"Particularly as an England international, it is of interest and you never know if such an opportunity will arise again.
"Now is the time to take the next step to develop even further."
Ferguson has already brought one new midfielder to Old Trafford this summer in £18.6million man Michael Carrick, who is currently injured.
But the Red Devils boss has stated on more than one occasion he is on the hunt for more reinforcements.
Villarreal's Marcos Senna has been heavily tipped to join United but, having insisted at the weekend his club would no longer be taken for mugs in the transfer market, Ferguson appears unwilling to meet the £8million asking price.
Bayern are unlikely to be taken for a ride either when it comes to putting a valuation on Hargreaves.
Having lost Michael Ballack, the German giants need to hang onto their best midfielders and would be unwilling to lose Hargreaves unless United stump up a fee of around £15million.
I doubt the fee would be that much, but if it is we might as well go for Mascherano. Otherwise Hargreaves would be a great signing IMO.
If it's gonna cost that much then there is no point buying him
AgentZero
16-08-2006, 13:40
well its a certainty isn't it?....Hargreaves with all his hinting in the media bout returning to england and then declaring it a fantastic offer....no.10???
well its a certainty isn't it?....Hargreaves with all his hinting in the media bout returning to england and then declaring it a fantastic offer....no.10???
no. 10 as in squad number? He'd probably take over Kleberson's no. 15 shirt. That's what I'd give him anyway.
AgentZero
16-08-2006, 13:47
No.15 is Vidic's i think 12 is a free number can't put it on a face. If he does come and gets the no.10 one would assume fergie isn't going to dip for a big(ger) signing
I forgot about Vidic. 12 is a good number for him too. I would assume even though there may not be a striker being signed this summer that the no. 10 would be saved for a striker, the next RVN.
Lord Shrimpeh
16-08-2006, 13:53
Hargreaves is a very solid DMF who was played out of position by Sven. Just cos he's canadian and has not really had a chance to prove himself with England people hate him. To use a Allardyce style comparision, if he was called Hargeaviese and played for a foreign national team we'd all say he was a good signing. Just like we don't seem to mind Senna who is IMO worse.
Dr. Bob Kelso
16-08-2006, 13:54
@Akineye
Ah yes we all know that mancunians are all a fine set of upstanding citizens who would never do anything wrong. What does the ALLEGATION of his bird kicking off in a restaurant have to do with anything anyway ?
By sticking up for Ronaldo you are just showing your manc bias. Gerrard simply said what needed saying and what we all really know. Players like Ronaldo are a fuckin disgrace to the game and for a player of his ability he is a disgrace to himself. No one gives a fuck if Gerrard missed a pen just add him to a long list of England players to do that. Where was super Wayne to carry us through ? Surely if you are so far up Ronaldos ass you should at the same time be deploring the actions of Rooney, ah but then again he plays for United as well so you can't be seen to have a spine over the issue now can you ?
How you can single out Gerrards performance is absolutley laughable given the shite we took to the World Cup. Frank Lampard anyone ?
Rooney showed what a money hungry nobhead he is anyway by not smacking Ronaldo first chance he saw him. I mean if there was any doubt then I could understand him leaving well enough alone but in knowing that greasy little funboy had winked to his coach and therefore acknowledged he deliberalty set out with the clear intention of CHEATING and looking to get Rooney sent off then this dimissed any slight doubt.
Which mob was this ? Believe everything we read in the paper do we ? If this threat was so real then why was he not under any kind of police protection ? I can tell you for a fact that the reaction of Rooney leaving was far more fierce. Then again what do I know I only live in Liverpool I didn't read it in the southern based media.
There was no mystery about why he changed his mind, he said himself that at first he did not believe at first that Benitez wanted him at the club. Benitez as we all know being the dignified class act that he is just asked Gerrard what his decision was and decided that he would leave him to it. He didn't beg and plead like Rick Parry and the rest so Gerrard saw this as him not being wanted at Liverpool. I also know for a fact that Gerrards dad was disgusted with him at the time and he made no small point in reminding him who he was, where he was from and what his dreams were. The night before the transfer Steven Gerrard under his own volition (or did the southern based media claim it was at gun point?) rang Rick Parry and told him that he wanted to remain the captain of the club and that Liverpool was where he wanted to be.
The common theme in these posts is that you attack scousers (except Rooney funnily enough) as it suits your ends. I on the other hand try and keep the posts about football but am given little choice but to respond to your slanderous jibes.
How about you stop being an absolute prick and then everyone can return to talking about football?
AgentZero
16-08-2006, 13:59
funny enough rafa..we were discussing football when you had to prop up your campaign further, its wankers like you who disrupt the whole forum
Dr. Bob Kelso
16-08-2006, 14:00
funny enough rafa..we were discussing football when you had to prop up your campaign further, its wankers like you who disrupt the whole forum
Funny how you keep getting your own in though even though you are complaining at me for doing the same. Even funnier as it has dick all to do with you.
Guillermo
16-08-2006, 14:03
Ah yes we all know that mancunians are all a fine set of upstanding citizens who would never do anything wrong. What does the ALLEGATION of his bird kicking off in a restaurant have to do with anything anyway ?
By sticking up for Ronaldo you are just showing your manc bias. Gerrard simply said what needed saying and what we all really know. Players like Ronaldo are a fuckin disgrace to the game and for a player of his ability he is a disgrace to himself. No one gives a fuck if Gerrard missed a pen just add him to a long list of England players to do that. Where was super Wayne to carry us through ? Surely if you are so far up Ronaldos ass you should at the same time be deploring the actions of Rooney, ah but then again he plays for United as well so you can't be seen to have a spine over the issue now can you ?
How you can single out Gerrards performance is absolutley laughable given the shite we took to the World Cup. Frank Lampard anyone ?
Rooney showed what a money hungry nobhead he is anyway by not smacking Ronaldo first chance he saw him. I mean if there was any doubt then I could understand him leaving well enough alone but in knowing that greasy little funboy had winked to his coach and therefore acknowledged he deliberalty set out with the clear intention of CHEATING and looking to get Rooney sent off then this dimissed any slight doubt.
Which mob was this ? Believe everything we read in the paper do we ? If this threat was so real then why was he not under any kind of police protection ? I can tell you for a fact that the reaction of Rooney leaving was far more fierce. Then again what do I know I only live in Liverpool I didn't read it in the southern based media.
There was no mystery about why he changed his mind, he said himself that at first he did not believe at first that Benitez wanted him at the club. Benitez as we all know being the dignified class act that he is just asked Gerrard what his decision was and decided that he would leave him to it. He didn't beg and plead like Rick Parry and the rest so Gerrard saw this as him not being wanted at Liverpool. I also know for a fact that Gerrards dad was disgusted with him at the time and he made no small point in reminding him who he was, where he was from and what his dreams were. The night before the transfer Steven Gerrard under his own volition (or did the southern based media claim it was at gun point?) rang Rick Parry and told him that he wanted to remain the captain of the club and that Liverpool was where he wanted to be.
The common theme in these posts is that you attack scousers (except Rooney funnily enough) as it suits your ends. I on the other hand try and keep the posts about football but am given little choice but to respond to your slanderous jibes.
How about you stop being an absolute prick and then everyone can return to talking about football?
And this rant is because..?
Papa Lazarou
16-08-2006, 14:07
Finally, Theres some concrete evidence of Hargreaves possibly coming to Man U!! Good signing in my opinion
AgentZero
16-08-2006, 14:07
i don't really care, but was it reallythat necessary for you to jump in this thread and make your bit known, for a second i thought yoru comment was somehow related to the possibility of Hargreaves to united bu no, its littered with 8 paragraphs of whinging.
Dr. Bob Kelso
16-08-2006, 14:11
And this rant is because..?
There should have been a quote above it but it didn't work.
Stella Artois
16-08-2006, 14:30
Rafa, couldn't you just fuck off?
Dr. Bob Kelso
16-08-2006, 14:31
Rafa, couldn't you just fuck off?
Yes.
Miguel SC
16-08-2006, 14:39
N.10 jersey will be for Adriano! ;)
Guillermo
16-08-2006, 15:21
Bayern Munich have insisted they have no intention of selling midfielder Owen Hargreaves to Manchester United.
:D
Lord Shrimpeh
16-08-2006, 16:43
Let's all just agree that we hate Chelsea :)
Papa Lazarou
16-08-2006, 17:08
I think Bayern will sell for the right price...maybe offload someone shit in part-exchange like Miller!!
@Akineye
Ah yes we all know that mancunians are all a fine set of upstanding citizens who would never do anything wrong. What does the ALLEGATION of his bird kicking off in a restaurant have to do with anything anyway ?
By sticking up for Ronaldo you are just showing your manc bias. Gerrard simply said what needed saying and what we all really know. Players like Ronaldo are a fuckin disgrace to the game and for a player of his ability he is a disgrace to himself. No one gives a fuck if Gerrard missed a pen just add him to a long list of England players to do that. Where was super Wayne to carry us through ? Surely if you are so far up Ronaldos ass you should at the same time be deploring the actions of Rooney, ah but then again he plays for United as well so you can't be seen to have a spine over the issue now can you ?
How you can single out Gerrards performance is absolutley laughable given the shite we took to the World Cup. Frank Lampard anyone ?
Rooney showed what a money hungry nobhead he is anyway by not smacking Ronaldo first chance he saw him. I mean if there was any doubt then I could understand him leaving well enough alone but in knowing that greasy little funboy had winked to his coach and therefore acknowledged he deliberalty set out with the clear intention of CHEATING and looking to get Rooney sent off then this dimissed any slight doubt.
Which mob was this ? Believe everything we read in the paper do we ? If this threat was so real then why was he not under any kind of police protection ? I can tell you for a fact that the reaction of Rooney leaving was far more fierce. Then again what do I know I only live in Liverpool I didn't read it in the southern based media.
There was no mystery about why he changed his mind, he said himself that at first he did not believe at first that Benitez wanted him at the club. Benitez as we all know being the dignified class act that he is just asked Gerrard what his decision was and decided that he would leave him to it. He didn't beg and plead like Rick Parry and the rest so Gerrard saw this as him not being wanted at Liverpool. I also know for a fact that Gerrards dad was disgusted with him at the time and he made no small point in reminding him who he was, where he was from and what his dreams were. The night before the transfer Steven Gerrard under his own volition (or did the southern based media claim it was at gun point?) rang Rick Parry and told him that he wanted to remain the captain of the club and that Liverpool was where he wanted to be.
The common theme in these posts is that you attack scousers (except Rooney funnily enough) as it suits your ends. I on the other hand try and keep the posts about football but am given little choice but to respond to your slanderous jibes.
How about you stop being an absolute prick and then everyone can return to talking about football?
Save your longwinded replies for someone who gives a shit.
The difference between Rooney (who was also terrible in the world cup, although clearly not fit) is that he did not come out blaming Ronaldo's actions for Ingerlund's loss in the world cup.
Rooney fucked Ingerlands chances up by pretending to be fit and then getting totally frustrated when he couldn't perform to any sort of level. That Ingerland complete with fat Sammy Lee and big nose Ray Clemence saw to it United's and Rooney's best interests were completely overrided just to have him play seems forgotten. I'm glad it backfired spectacularly on them.
Get the chip off your shoulder. Frank 'Gareth' Lampsy Lampard was also dreadful in the world cup, and could also do well to remember whose balls were halfway up his stomach when he accuses Ronaldo of 'duping' his teammate. Me having a go at Gerrard for being a morally weak prick has nothing to do with him being scouse. I said the same about Lampard and the same about the 'southern based media' for condemning a player for doing nothing more than wanting his team to win.
Dr. Bob Kelso
16-08-2006, 18:12
Save your longwinded replies for someone who gives a shit.
The difference between Rooney (who was also terrible in the world cup, although clearly not fit) is that he did not come out blaming Ronaldo's actions for Ingerlund's loss in the world cup.
Rooney fucked Ingerlands chances up by pretending to be fit and then getting totally frustrated when he couldn't perform to any sort of level. That Ingerland complete with fat Sammy Lee and big nose Ray Clemence saw to it United's and Rooney's best interests were completely overrided just to have him play seems forgotten. I'm glad it backfired spectacularly on them.
Get the chip off your shoulder. Frank 'Gareth' Lampsy Lampard was also dreadful in the world cup, and could also do well to remember whose balls were halfway up his stomach when he accuses Ronaldo of 'duping' his teammate. Me having a go at Gerrard for being a morally weak prick has nothing to do with him being scouse. I said the same about Lampard and the same about the 'southern based media' for condemning a player for doing nothing more than wanting his team to win.
Chip off my shoulder ? You are now blaming the coaches (despite the fact Rooney wanted to play and it was Svens decision not theres) because they used to play for Liverpool. Remember lad you can bitch all you want but
18 AND 5 FOREVER IN OUR SHADOW ! Chip on my shoulder ? I love it!
To summarise stamping on someones balls = ok ? ( I should point out I don't think it was deliberate but were talking about your opinion here not mine)
Saying that it isn't ok like the rest of the non man ure supporting nation = bad.
Bending over for a cheating little funboy because Ferguson might be upset = morals.
Yeah you're not bias at all.
vanNistelrooy
16-08-2006, 18:30
Yawn.
Stella Artois
16-08-2006, 18:32
Yawn.
Unfortunately I'm unable to do the world a service and break rafa's fingers with a hammer as he lives too far away.
Do us all a favour and shut the fuck up.
Dr. Bob Kelso
16-08-2006, 18:35
Unfortunately I'm unable to do the world a service and break rafa's fingers with a hammer as he lives too far away.
Do us all a favour and shut the fuck up.
You name the time and place there Reggie.
vanNistelrooy
16-08-2006, 18:35
Unfortunately I'm unable to do the world a service and break rafa's fingers with a hammer as he lives too far away.
Do us all a favour and shut the fuck up.
How about we each send him a piece of turd in the post?
You name the time and place there Reggie.
Ooooo. Fight, fight, fight (in a school boy way).
Dr. Bob Kelso
16-08-2006, 18:37
How about we each send him a piece of turd in the post?
Ooooo. Fight, fight, fight (in a school boy way).
I didn't say I'd be there. ;)
Just thought I would carry on this mafia boss behind a keyboard type lark. One too many Mel Gibson movies for this lad me thinks.
Stella Artois
16-08-2006, 18:39
Yes, as I was being deadly serious wasn't I. :rolleyes:
Drop the whole, "I'm older than you, therefore I'm harder than you" attitude, as it doesn't wash with me.
For all I know, you could be a 5ft 2", nerd - infact I'd say that's highly likely.
i like the man utd talk lads
Pointless arguments like this have been happening for about the last 10 pages now and its frankly fucking annoying. Completely pathetic, maybe 1 argument could be funny but dragging out the bollocks is just irritating. Really.
Stella Artois
16-08-2006, 21:45
Sorry mens.
Anyway, how much do you see Richardson figuring this season? I'm surprised he hasn't bothered going to a team like West Ham in order to play more.
Sorry mens.
Anyway, how much do you see Richardson figuring this season? I'm surprised he hasn't bothered going to a team like West Ham in order to play more.Doubt it after it was them Man Yoo poached him off. ;)
I can see him playing a fair bit, hes been incredibly impressive Pre-Season so he should be getting a look in I imagine. Giggs is knocking on the pensioners door as we all know, so giving him a rest every now and then for Richardson is definetely a possibility. Not to mention, Richardson can drop into Left-Back if needed. Hes a good asset and I reckon we'll keep him, but I'd understand if he handed in a transfer request tomorrow though.
How much money do you think he'd fetch from a team ?
I can see him playing a fair bit, hes been incredibly impressive Pre-Season so he should be getting a look in I imagine. Giggs is knocking on the pensioners door as we all know, so giving him a rest every now and then for Richardson is definetely a possibility. Not to mention, Richardson can drop into Left-Back if needed. Hes a good asset and I reckon we'll keep him, but I'd understand if he handed in a transfer request tomorrow though.
How much money do you think he'd fetch from a team ?I personally wouldn't pay more than 500k for him, but as he's a Man Yoo player god knows.
Stella Artois
16-08-2006, 21:55
I think a few million would suffice, but he's English, so who knows?
Jonny, I didn't know that, but it was an example of the sort of club he should be at. :P
£5million probably, at this point in time.
Hargreaves has just been named man of the match in the England game, and a good game he's had too. Kept posession well, and made some fine tackles. People still need convincing?
If anyone is watching/watched it, what was that they were saying about Kirkland's family winning £10,000 on a bet they made in 1997. What was it for? That he'd make a number of appearances in an England shirt or something?
£5million probably, at this point in time.
Hargreaves has just been named man of the match in the England game, and a good game he's had too. Kept posession well, and made some fine tackles. People still need convincing?
If anyone is watching/watched it, what was that they were saying about Kirkland's family winning £10,000 on a bet they made in 1997. What was it for? That he'd make a number of appearances in an England shirt or something?That he'd play for England at some point before the age at 30.
£5 million for Richardson is a joke by the way.
Stella Artois
16-08-2006, 21:58
No, that he'd play for England. That was his first game.
vanNistelrooy
16-08-2006, 21:59
Richardson is definately one to keep. Will feature alot more next season.
£5million probably, at this point in time.
Hargreaves has just been named man of the match in the England game, and a good game he's had too. Kept posession well, and made some fine tackles. People still need convincing?
If anyone is watching/watched it, what was that they were saying about Kirkland's family winning £10,000 on a bet they made in 1997. What was it for? That he'd make a number of appearances in an England shirt or something?
His family made a bet that he'd play for England one day. Surprised the odds weren't better if it was mad ein 1997 to be honest, 100/1 is quite harsh. Meh..
Hargreaves says he'd love to sign for United so it looks fairly likely now. I'll get the link to the article.
Richardson is definately one to keep. Will feature alot more next season.He's shite and an arrogant tosser.
That he'd play for England at some point before the age at 30.
£5 million for Richardson is a joke by the way.
£5million is a joke. But he's English, and English players are always overpriced. Davies £10million?
EDIT: Bet his family wish they put more than £100 on that bet now
vanNistelrooy
16-08-2006, 22:03
He's shite and an arrogant tosser.
He'd get in to your team and yes he can be arrogant.
That he'd play for England at some point before the age at 30.
£5 million for Richardson is a joke by the way.
Maybe pushing the boat out a bit but everyone seems to be overpriced nowadays so according to the modern money flutters, £5m seems okay. Personally, I'd say £2-4m but of course potential comes into play, the fact hes English and also the fact hes playing for United. Hes been looking superb recently, so it would be understandable.
He'd get in to your team and yes he can be arrogant.Instead of Duff and The Zog i presume? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
vanNistelrooy
16-08-2006, 22:07
Instead of Duff and The Zog i presume? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Hell yeah :tongue:
Stella Artois
16-08-2006, 22:13
He'd get in to your team and yes he can be arrogant.
That's a sig-worthy comment if I ever saw one!
TheBishop
16-08-2006, 22:18
So, whats you lots feelings about the potential signing of Hargreaves then? I hope Wenger comes in with a late bid :D
Hell yeah :tongue:Had chance to re-thunk it?
vanNistelrooy
16-08-2006, 22:28
Had chance to re-thunk it?
Was always meant as tongue in cheek. Especially as I've always rated The Zog.
The Stig
16-08-2006, 22:33
hargreaves wants to move to old trafford, but im sorry to break your hearts all you man utd fans out there but bayern say they have no intension of selling him.
http://www.clubcall.com/index.jsp?storyID=287806
AgentZero
16-08-2006, 22:47
selling rihardson!!..thats just wasteful!
EDIT: well bardsley is on loan now to rangers
Rangers have taken defender Phil Bardsley on loan until the end of the year.
Our promising 21-year-old right-back joins team-mate Lee Martin, who made a similar switch to Ibrox last week.
Bardsley spent the end of last season on loan at Burnley and featured in the pre-season friendlies against Celtic, Porto and Seville.
Also, rumors persist, mainly put out by himself, linking Hargreaves to United. Bayern general manager Uli Hoeness said: "Hargreaves is not a subject of discussion. "Owen has a contract until 2010 and he will complete it. The issue is closed."
It's thought United would be willing to pay about £13m- far too much. Although Hargreaves would clearly be an asset, and he's disliked by England fans.
PS- Richardson is poor player whose arrogant enough to think that he's a brilliant young prodigy.
Here is the full list of the squad numbers,
1. Van der Sar, 2. Neville, 3. Evra, 4. Heinze, 5. Ferdinand, 6. Brown, 7. Ronaldo, 8. Rooney, 9. Saha, 11. Giggs, 13. Park, 14. Smith, 15. Vidic, 16. Carrick, 17. Miller, 18. Scholes, 19. Rossi, 20. Solskjaer, 22. O'Shea, 23. Richardson, 24. Fletcher, 25. D.Jones, 27. Silvestre, 29. Kuszczak, 33. Eagles, 38. Heaton, 49. R.Jones.
Dr. Bob Kelso
17-08-2006, 17:06
Yes, as I was being deadly serious wasn't I. :rolleyes:
Drop the whole, "I'm older than you, therefore I'm harder than you" attitude, as it doesn't wash with me.
For all I know, you could be a 5ft 2", nerd - infact I'd say that's highly likely.
Read the post sense the irony and then stop being a boring little beaut. Chances are I am harder than you because you're a southerrn fairy but I hadn't mentioned anything like until then.
Oh and if you think I am 5"2 then you would be in for a shock. Nerd ? iF you like.
vanNistelrooy
17-08-2006, 18:18
I've had enough of this bollocks. I'm starting an "Official Rafalutionary argument thread".
@ Top Gun, where did you get that list from?
EDIT: Don't worry. Found it at Man Utd website.
Dr. Bob Kelso
17-08-2006, 19:19
I've had enough of this bollocks. I'm starting an "Official Rafalutionary argument thread".
@ Top Gun, where did you get that list from?
EDIT: Don't worry. Found it at Man Utd website.
No you're not. :)
No you're not. :)
Would seem a reasonable thread to me, would certainly rack up many pages in a short space of time. However I doubt anyone would visit it and if push came to shove just add you to the Ignore List instead to save time and frustration.
Dr. Bob Kelso
17-08-2006, 21:07
Would seem a reasonable thread to me, would certainly rack up many pages in a short space of time. However I doubt anyone would visit it and if push came to shove just add you to the Ignore List instead to save time and frustration.
Well a man's got to do what a man's got to do. So get off your horse and drink your milk pilgrim.
Kairoshousen
17-08-2006, 21:23
fucking losers
Fucking spammer :happy:. Hargreaves would be a great signing as would Senna...Selling Richardson would be a mistake.
ferdinand93
17-08-2006, 21:47
fucking losers
as that thread said,
KAIRO-THINGY IS A C*NT
ferdinand93
17-08-2006, 21:51
Man United have been given a deadline of friday to sign Marcos Senna according to the website.
anyway, who would you's prefer to sign, Hargreaves or Senna?
Man United have been given a deadline of friday to sign Marcos Senna according to the website.
anyway, who would you's prefer to sign, Hargreaves or Senna?
deffo hargreaves hes younger while senna is only a short term solution
Dr. Bob Kelso
17-08-2006, 22:53
deffo hargreaves hes younger while senna is only a short term solution
I wonder how much the Glazers will have to say about this. I hope you get Hargreaves as then you wont be able to get a new striker I don't think.
Guillermo
17-08-2006, 22:54
anyway, who would you's prefer to sign, Hargreaves or Senna?
Neither.
bakerboy15
17-08-2006, 22:56
Hargreaves...as said before hes younger
vanNistelrooy
18-08-2006, 00:28
No you're not. :)
http://www.pesinsight.com/showthread.php?t=41528
:rolleyes:
Neither.
Andy, just want to know since you're an Englishman, what's so wrong about Hargreaves? Or anyone else for that matter who does not like Hargreaves?
vanNistelrooy
18-08-2006, 00:58
How would Hargreaves improve our squad? We've just signed Carrick who plays pretty much the same role and we need a striker, not another DM.
How would Hargreaves improve our squad? We've just signed Carrick who plays pretty much the same role and we need a striker, not another DM.
Carrick is more a CMF than a DMF. Hargreaves will add the bite the United midfield is lacking. Carrick will take over from Scholes, rather than Keane IMO.
Carrick can't do the same job as Scholes, he doesnt score enough goals.
Lets face it this season were are screwed, this could be our worse season under SAF
Hargreaves and Carrick, doesn't sound too bad does it?
Carrick can't do the same job as Scholes, he doesnt score enough goals.
Lets face it this season were are screwed, this could be our worse season under SAFScrewed... try having Shola as your only recognised striker.
I win. :):(
Guillermo
18-08-2006, 11:25
Hargreaves and Carrick, doesn't sound too bad does it?
Yes. Look at other clubs signings, then you look at United's, not exactly something you'd be quaking in your boots over.
carrick is fuckin immense, man u will win the leag, arsenal n chelsea r a bunch of cunts who av no hope
Guillermo
18-08-2006, 11:32
carrick is fuckin immense, man u will win the leag, arsenal n chelsea r a bunch of cunts who av no hope
OK.
Darron Gibson, Danny Simpson, Jonny Evans and Fraizer Campbell have all gone on loan to Antwerp until January, I am interested to see how Evans progresses as he seems to be one of the better prospects.
AgentZero
18-08-2006, 12:39
fuck replacing scholes or keanes , have faith in these new players to become their own star, not just someone who can play like somebody else.
id prefer Hargreaves, just because he's english.
fuck replacing scholes or keanes , have faith in these new players to become their own star, not just someone who can play like somebody else.
id prefer Hargreaves, just because he's english.
I pretty much agree mate, often hearing about a new youngster replacing Keane or Scholes when the fact is no one can replace them. But these youngsters could very well become immense too so ruling them out completely before ever kicking a ball for us is harsh. Only if we signed Shola could we be harsh (only said Shola as Jonny posted up top).
Carrick is not a DMF, I repeat, not a DMF.
Lets get Hargreaves and buy a CF, tevez anyone?
http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=8484
I would love for him to come here, but i can see him going to Milan.
Tevez is far too similar to Rooney, it would be rather pointless to be honest even if he wants to come to United. Who would we then play, Rooney or Tevez ? Or 4-3-3 ? Doubt it.
Rooney and Saha is a very good partnership, I don't think people will realise this properly until they produce many goals this season. Yes another striker would be alright but its silly buying one for the sake of it. We should only buy one if the striker in question is a quality yongster, Huntelaar or Torres etc. goalscorers.
Our midfield is on the verge of being fully sorted thankfully, and could definetely become one of the strongest about:
Ronaldo
Park
Carrick
Hargreaves
Scholes
Giggs
Richardson
Senna ?
Doesn't look bad at all now does it ?
We've got a great keeper in VDS, with a good young prospect in Tomas coming in.
Defensively sound, midfield sorted and up top we've got great players.
Not so much of a crisis really is it, we should really be pushing Chelsea this season, we weren't far off last season and our midfield was rather a shambles at times.
AgentZero
18-08-2006, 14:21
its only deemed a crisis because utd aren't spending big...we came 2nd thats not a crisis to me...arsenal would have been a meltdownof some sort
Yea our midfield looks sorted but its either senna or hargreaves, i dont reckon we will get both.
Still we are one CF away from a class team. SAF knows that and he has said he is looking at a 20 goals a season striker, but who?
What crisis? finishing 2nd to a team with all the millions is not too bad.
Yes. Look at other clubs signings, then you look at United's, not exactly something you'd be quaking in your boots over.
Which other clubs? Chelsea, no one can compare to them. /
I think United being somehow unfancied this season, will be motivated and challenge Chelsea all the way, they are making some good and most importantly young signings.
By the way, which club is the richest from these three. Arsenal, United and Liverpool?
Us. Officially we are still the richest club in England
http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=410716&CPID=8&clid=1&lid=2&title=Defiant+Bayern+cling+ont o+Owen
Bayern say that Hargreaves is not for sale, well thats one transfer out the window
I'm still certain we'll get him.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2006380276,00.html
check this.
Latest is that he wants to come, but Bayern are being stubborn. This is because they wanted to do a deal with Van Nistelrooy and Hargreaves and feel that their noses have been put out.
United re-ignited interest in Hargreaves after Senna started stalling. Senna wants to come, but his agent is being a tool. Senna earns £21k basic a week at Villarreal. His agent wants £60k a week for him at O.T. United have offered around forty bags.
Realistically United are never going to challenge for the title this season. We have midfielders, but none of them are good enough to play for a team hoping to compete for trophies. Carrick and Hargreaves are decent players, but they're nowhere near world class.
Twelve months ago at least there was some semblance of rebellion / optimism / anarchy in the air. August 2006 is as dull and uninspiring a time as we've seen since the immortal "Tara Fergie" banner was unfurled. Expectation has never been so low.
Having said that, I'm looking forward to returning to the norm on Sunday. I stopped following United to the friendlies away at Peterborough or Wrexham that we seem to play every year. I've had a great football-free summer (after the world cup) but it's time to get back to it.
The world cup was brilliant, but the season will spell a welcome end to the jingoistic press wank about hating the dirty Argies, the krauts, and 'getting behind the country'. Thank fuck for that.
Roll on Fulham Sunday, and lets get back to realising just who the real enemy are.
Darth Daft
18-08-2006, 19:57
Twelve months ago at least there was some semblance of rebellion / optimism / anarchy in the air. August 2006 is as dull and uninspiring a time as we've seen since the immortal "Tara Fergie" banner was unfurled. Expectation has never been so low.
Having said that, I'm looking forward to returning to the norm on Sunday. I stopped following United to the friendlies away at Peterborough or Wrexham that we seem to play every year. I've had a great football-free summer (after the world cup) but it's time to get back to it.
The world cup was brilliant, but the season will spell a welcome end to the jingoistic press wank about hating the dirty Argies, the krauts, and 'getting behind the country'. Thank fuck for that.
Roll on Fulham Sunday, and lets get back to realising just who the real enemy are.
Everyone is the enemy, the FA, other clubs, the press, even our own owners and manager and fans who shell out for merchandise thus paying off glazers debt for him.
Fuck everyone! :D
Dr. Bob Kelso
18-08-2006, 20:36
http://www.pesinsight.com/showthread.php?t=41528
:rolleyes:
How can it be official without the guest of honour. ;)
Guillermo
18-08-2006, 20:47
Which other clubs? Chelsea, no one can compare to them. /
Well take Liverpool for example, they've recruited Kuyt, Bellamy, Gonzalez, Pennant etc. much better than United's signings (and cheaper). I see United coming 4th at best.
http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=410790&CPID=8&clid=1&lid=4161&title=Senna+staying+at+Villarr eal
Looks like Senna wont be coming, another transfer that has gone down the drain
AgentZero
18-08-2006, 23:19
support our youth ranks boys...don't want to turn out like real ...a club where its youngsters have no hope in hell
Our youth players aren't coming through as well as they did 10 years ago, I mean back then we had the likes Gary Neville, Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs and David Beckham and many more, I can only see 1 or 2 of the current youth team making it into the first team.
support our youth ranks boys...don't want to turn out like real ...a club where its youngsters have no hope in hellOr perhaps because the youngsters aren't good enough?
I think it's doubtful that you will ever see the likes of the class of '92 being repeated again. The talent that came through in that period was exceptional.
Billy Minof
19-08-2006, 04:44
Looks like Senna wont be coming, another transfer that has gone down the drain
Ye need to tie up a few deals fast, now that word that ye want Hargraves has come out Chelsea are gonna strike a deal with him. :huh:
so I guess Man U is beating Milan so far into signing Tevez eh...
Billy Minof
19-08-2006, 04:49
so I guess Man U is beating Milan so far into signing Tevez eh...
Ya thats what they say anyway. :(
Heard it on the Grapevine tonight. ;)
I wouldn't mind having him but I would worry as he is quite similar to Rooney, but saying that he is one of the best young talents in the world so it would be a shame to miss out on an oppertunity to sign him.
Martins having a stormer for rangers vs hearts, and bardsley had a good game aswell.
Kaka22_kk
19-08-2006, 16:41
Martins having a stormer for rangers vs hearts, and bardsley had a good game aswell.
Good to hear, unfortunatly its for the huns :(
Good to hear, unfortunatly its for the huns :(
Na its ok, im happy to see Uniteds young plays getting first team football and hopefully developing even more.
AgentZero
19-08-2006, 23:52
yeh i hope both phil and lee do well for the gers.
anyways Heinze Vidic and Carrick out of the opener
my expected 11 would probably be:
VDS
Neville-Brown-Ferdinand-Silvestre/Evra
Ronaldo/Park - Scholes - Fletch/Giggs - Richardson/Giggs
Saha - Rooney
Kairoshousen
20-08-2006, 00:44
fucking losers
AgentZero
20-08-2006, 07:32
kairoshousen...piss off.
Our first game of the season today, what do you think the score will be? I am going for a 2-0 win
A 2-0 victory with the scorers being Ronaldo and Saha.
vanNistelrooy
20-08-2006, 11:28
Either 3-1 or 2-2.
Rooney considering FA sponsor strike
Wayne Rooney has threatened to stop co-operating with the FA's commercial deals following the decision not to spare him from a three-match ban.
Rooney's agent Paul Stretford sent a letter to FA chief executive Brian Barwick explaining why the 20-year-old is considering "withdrawing all support for the FA's commercial programme," according to reports.
Stretford stressed Rooney's "dismay" would not affect his availability as a player for England.
Manchester United striker Rooney was dismissed by referee Ruud Bossen when he caught Porto's Pepe in the face with his arm as he jumped for a header in the Amsterdam tournament at the start of the month.
Bossen sent his match report to the Football Association but United were encouraged to appeal and assured it would be dealt with sympathetically.
The FA's independent disciplinary committee, however, looked at the evidence and decided Bossen made the right decision and that the suspension should stand - to the fury of United boss Sir Alex Ferguson and Rooney, and the dismay of new England manager Steve McClaren.
Stretford's letter reportedly said: "I am writing on behalf of my client to express his utter dismay at the decision not to overturn the ban.
"Rooney feels extremely let down by the FA on this matter.
"While he will continue if selected to play for his country with pride and commitment, he is considering withdrawing his support for the FA's commercial programme: in other words, he will not allow his image to be used or exploited, or participate in personal appearances for and on behalf of the FA's commercial partners unless he is satisfied with how the FA conducts its affairs in regard to player matters."
Rooney is now awaiting a reply to the letter before deciding on his next course of action.
Although it would appear there is no imminent problem given the striker is suspended for next month's Euro 2008 qualifiers against Andorra and Macedonia, the FA's marketing arm will be making plans to promote the Old Trafford encounter with Macedonia on October 7.
With former skipper David Beckham not part of McClaren's plans, Rooney is now by far the most recognisable member of the England fold.
It would be safe to assume the FA planned to use Rooney's picture in their plans to sell tickets for the Macedonia clash.
However, until the present dispute is resolved, they will be unable to do so and neither will the FA be able to plan any commercial campaigns around him.
A rather amusing story. Not sure whether it's an advisable one though, Rooney must tread carefully, because in some ways it looks a bit like blackmail. Though I think everyone except that 'independent' panel all agree that Rooney's red wasn't a red, or at least not a three match ban. Jokers
AgentZero
20-08-2006, 12:28
wazza shoul just play by the rules
Todays team is, Van Der Sar, Neville, Rio, Brown, Evra, Ronaldo, Scholes, O'Shea, Giggs, Rooney and Saha.
Ronaldo got a cheer at the start of the match which is good to hear.
Edit: Saha scores. 1-0 to United.
AgentZero
20-08-2006, 13:44
o'shea in midfield..
EDIT: didn't know bullard signed for fulham
Yeah, hopefully he will be able to do a good job and sit there in midfield so Scholes can go forwards to support our forwards.
Edit: Own goal. 2-0. Rooney scores. 3-0. Ronaldo scores. 4-0.
greenegg
20-08-2006, 13:57
Deary me, is this match available to view on the net anywhere?
The Stig
20-08-2006, 13:59
Deary me, is this match available to view on the net anywhere?
try www.footballstreaming.info
Scholes just nailed the post with one of his trademark shots. But in the end Niemi managed to keep it out.
AgentZero
20-08-2006, 14:09
holy crap yeah!!! nothing cant hide my delight!
vanNistelrooy
20-08-2006, 15:33
As I've said before, Ronaldo is going to have a stormer of a season.
Was gonna put £30 on Ronaldo to score today at evens but didn't :(
TheBishop
20-08-2006, 15:45
http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=411007&CPID=8&clid=1&lid=4161&title=Rampant+Red+Devils+thras h+Fulham
Think that picture shows how the media blew the 'feud' between them two way out of proportion.
vanNistelrooy
20-08-2006, 15:47
Well it was mainly The Sun. The Sun are stupid fuckers.
o0oGedo0o
20-08-2006, 21:18
where can i download the goals of today's match from ? anyone knows?
where can i download the goals of today's match from ? anyone knows?
www.soccerpulse.com
Think they do football streaming and matches etc.
If you want the goals here they are
http://www7.rapidupload.com/d.php?file=dl&filepath=15912
http://d.turboupload.com/d/898103/pearce_2-0.zip.html
http://d.turboupload.com/d/898122/Rooney_3-0.zip.html
http://d.turboupload.com/d/898137/ronaldo_4-0.zip.html
http://d.turboupload.com/d/898154/ferdinand_4-1.zip.html
http://d.turboupload.com/d/898261/Rooney_5-1.zip.html
Ah, missed the game but saw the highlights earlier it could of been any score.
Micheal browns a dirty cunt.
vanNistelrooy
20-08-2006, 23:28
Micheal browns a dirty cunt.
Will the FA do anything about it? Or will the FA do FA about it? I guess it has to be mentioned in the referee's report for them to take any further actions.
Will the FA do anything about it? Or will the FA do FA about it? I guess it has to be mentioned in the referee's report for them to take any further actions.
Its a shocking challenge, and i dont think the Fa will do fuck all. The ref didnt see it, and yet rooney and scholes are suspended for 3 games :angry:
AgentZero
20-08-2006, 23:32
the power of the english media?!....so how many of you guys were caling for his head weeks ago?
Not me, ronaldo can do the fuck he wants for portugal as long as he keeps performing like he did today.
Talking about ronaldo right?
micheal brown is a dirty cunt n needs to stop puttin in those fuckin tackles, he did it on i think nolan last season, also why the fuck is rooney suspended cos that cheating portugues cunt fuckin dived
If Rooney and Scholes get a three match ban for what they 'did', SURELY that would make Brown's a nine match ban, right? Right? FA = Fucking Assholes
I think we should be able to cope with Scholes and Rooney out, Tottenham is the only game I am worried about but if they play like they did against Bolton we should beat them.
Ronaldo_is_fat
21-08-2006, 12:29
I think we should be able to cope with Scholes and Rooney out, Tottenham is the only game I am worried about but if they play like they did against Bolton we should beat them.
No worries don't let the warmup fool you as it also fool me.
TheBishop
21-08-2006, 13:24
Alan Smith is apparently playing for the reserves tonight. Quite incredible how early he's managed to get back.
I think we should be able to cope with Scholes and Rooney out, Tottenham is the only game I am worried about but if they play like they did against Bolton we should beat them.
They'll raise their game when they play us. It is a tricky fixture considering the Rooney Scholes situation, and could be a possible slip up. Though if Carrick is back to replace Scholes and Solskjaer produces the kind of form he did pre-season, we should get the three points out of it.
Alan Smith is apparently playing for the reserves tonight. Quite incredible how early he's managed to get back.
I can't wait until he is playing up front again, then he will be back at his best.
They'll raise their game when they play us. It is a tricky fixture considering the Rooney Scholes situation, and could be a possible slip up. Though if Carrick is back to replace Scholes and Solskjaer produces the kind of form he did pre-season, we should get the three points out of it.
I'd say that Park and Rossi are worthy replacements of Roony and Scholes...
It's sad park doesnt get as much playtime as he deserves...
Rossi is still young and will no doubt wrk himself into the first team, from what I've seen of him.
Park will start to play more and more once players like Giggs and Scholes get too old, he is a great squad player as he can play almost anywhere in midfield and he never complains.
vanNistelrooy
21-08-2006, 18:23
I'd say that Park and Rossi are worthy replacements of Roony and Scholes...
It's sad park doesnt get as much playtime as he deserves...
Rossi is still young and will no doubt wrk himself into the first team, from what I've seen of him.
Park isn't the player we need when Scholes is out. Park would be better on the wing and Giggs in the "Scholes role".
Talking about park-:check the moves :laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=froJ1-uqvRk
And the utd team photo.
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7782/fermp5cl4.png