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vanNistelrooy
07-11-2006, 22:49
Will we? On what evidence?
Well, just watch this space then...
mufcsean
08-11-2006, 00:05
What a goal that was, and their keeper was outstanding, cant believ we are out already, looks like our aims of going for the domestic treble are out of the window now
AgentZero
08-11-2006, 06:59
aiya-yay disasterous result bottom of the championship southend knocks out top of the prem and current holders united...its like one of those embarassing dreams
Not too bothered that we're out to be honest. Was never that interested in progressing in this cup, nor the FA. By playing less matches it reduces our chance of injury and that's something we definetely do not need. It gives us a bit more concentration on the Prem, I'd rather win the Prem than the CL this year to be honest.
vanNistelrooy
08-11-2006, 08:08
What a goal that was, and their keeper was outstanding, cant believ we are out already, looks like our aims of going for the domestic treble are out of the window now
He probably would have conceeded if EVERY shot wasn't straight at him!
AgentZero
08-11-2006, 09:30
Not too bothered that we're out to be honest. Was never that interested in progressing in this cup, nor the FA. By playing less matches it reduces our chance of injury and that's something we definetely do not need. It gives us a bit more concentration on the Prem, I'd rather win the Prem than the CL this year to be honest.
true but we should never FA-bash and anyways would you not liek the squad to emulat ethe treble or possibly the quadreble(not anymore)
true but we should never FA-bash and anyways would you not liek the squad to emulat ethe treble or possibly the quadreble(not anymore)
Even if we did win I don't think we have the sqaud to emulate the quadruple
I can't see anyone doing the treble or quadruple for a long time.
I can't see anyone doing the treble or quadruple for a long time.
Agreed, there was simply no way we were ever going to win a series of trophies this season, especially since our squad lacks depth. Generally we have a great team but just a 'good' squad. We'll need to make a signing or two I feel in January to keep up as plague has struck our camp and we've already had a few injuries.
Heinze didn't look sharp at all last night, quite disappointing. It is after a long period of time out but you'd have thought he would still have some sense of awareness.
mufcsean
09-11-2006, 00:08
i was messing about the quadruple ny the way
Adu to link up with United
http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=427662&CPID=8&clid=1&lid=2&title=Adu+to+link+up+with+Unit ed
what u guys think??
Not sure what to think, it says a newspaper reported it which could mean it's untrue. I wouldn't mind seeing Adu here, he's young and he's a half decent striker at the moment with potential. Although the sum can't be high, it would be ridiculous.
mufcsean
09-11-2006, 13:51
Teenage sensation Freddy Adu is to train with Manchester United for two weeks, that is all it is
Zoolander
09-11-2006, 15:57
Who thinks we should cash in on O'Shea & Fletcher? I can see Newcastle willing to spend money on them 2.
Who thinks we should cash in on O'Shea & Fletcher? I can see Newcastle willing to spend money on them 2.
Not sure, although I think a team of maybe Rochdale's caliber may be interested in the pair.
ecureuil
10-11-2006, 01:02
Who thinks we should cash in on O'Shea & Fletcher? I can see Newcastle willing to spend money on them 2.
YES!!! OH GOD YES!!! I'd love it! :D They could have a buy 2, get 1 free, and we could throw Richardson in there.
if that happens...i would just love it!!
Zoolander
10-11-2006, 14:52
Alan Smith may go on loan to Cardiff. Thoughts? I think we're a bit sort on players so i wouldn't want him to go.
Guillermo
10-11-2006, 15:39
That would leave us with 3 strikers. I say keep him.
That would leave us with 3 strikers. I say keep him.
Isn't he classed as a midfielder now?
Isn't he classed as a midfielder now?
No. That was when we were short in midfield but now he is upfront and I agree we should keep him because it will leave us with two fit strikers
No. That was when we were short in midfield but now he is upfront and I agree we should keep him because it will leave us with two fit strikers
When has he played upfront this season?
mufcsean
10-11-2006, 17:32
Smith has also been linked with leeds now, i say let him go back there for a while as being back at home will boost his confidence massivly especially when playing against the crap teams of the championship
uA - 1905
10-11-2006, 17:53
being back at home will boost his confidence massivly especially when playing against the crap teams of the championship
Yes, crap teams like Barnsley and Southend.
Guillermo
10-11-2006, 18:00
Southend :no:
uA - 1905
10-11-2006, 18:06
Exactly.
Dr. Bob Kelso
10-11-2006, 18:06
These things happen. Still funny as fuck when they do though.
Best manager ever? Please.
mufcsean
10-11-2006, 18:37
Who is the best manager ever then, no doubt you will say someone like Paisley, who just happened to be a Liverpool manager
Dr. Bob Kelso
10-11-2006, 18:59
Who is the best manager ever then, no doubt you will say someone like Paisley, who just happened to be a Liverpool manager
Yeah funny but 3 European Cups (including 2 back to back) and 6 league titles in 9 years will kind of give you that kind of opinion. In a recent poll (THAT HAD FUCK ALL TO DO WITH SKY) Paisley was voted the greatest British Manager ever followed by Brain Clough.
1. Paisley: 28%
2. Clough: 27%
3. Stein: 18%
4. Fergie: 15%
5. Shankly: 6%
6. Nicholson: 4%
7. Busby: 1%
8. Chapman: 1%
vanNistelrooy
10-11-2006, 19:13
Best manager ever? Please.
When did any of us say he was? I think it's remarkable to stay at the same club for as long as he has. Gives Liverpool a chance to win the "place your team name here" cup, which I'm sure you'll celebrate, being your only silverwear and all :tongue:
That poll wasn't done over at www.liverpoofc.co.uk was it? :tongue:
EDIT: The Smith thing, loaning him out while Guiseppe is at Newcastle and Ole is injured, would be stupid and then I would agree with Rafalutionary.
Dr. Bob Kelso
10-11-2006, 19:30
When did any of us say he was? I think it's remarkable to stay at the same club for as long as he has. Gives Liverpool a chance to win the "place your team name here" cup, which I'm sure you'll celebrate, being your only silverwear and all :tongue:
That poll wasn't done over at www.liverpoofc.co.uk was it? :tongue:
EDIT: The Smith thing, loaning him out while Guiseppe is at Newcastle and Ole is injured, would be stupid and then I would agree with Rafalutionary.
Have you been in a cave for the last 2 weeks? No one said you yourself said it but all you had to do was turn on a TV (boxy thing with pics that move incase any Bolton Gypos have made their way into this thread), Radio or pick up a paper (thing you wipe your ass with that you find on the ground gypos) and you would see the hype. The poll was on Football Focus and shows people early enough to remember not to believe the hype.
I couldn't give a flying fuck in a high wind about the *United didn't care that is why Rooney and Ronaldo played* cup, with Everton and you leaving early there is only Chelski that are left that I wouldn't want to win it. I will of course support Liverpool in all their pursuits but come on the league cup is an absolute joke, it's no more than a poor mans FA Cup, the only time it means anything is when you play a rival because there are no friendlies when Liverpool meet Everton, United or Chelski.
tom pain
10-11-2006, 19:35
Alan Smith may go on loan to Cardiff. Thoughts? I think we're a bit sort on players so i wouldn't want him to go.
I wouldn't mind him playing here,.:happy:
Zoolander
10-11-2006, 19:36
Ahhh Liverpool & Manchester United fans bonding.
vanNistelrooy
11-11-2006, 10:53
Ahhh Liverpool & Manchester United fans bonding.
As always :)
The CC was "a fallback" for us last season, as we were so wank in everything else. Hopefully we'll be a bit closer in the league this season.
vanNistelrooy
11-11-2006, 18:11
How is this 0-0? I can see us losing this fucking game. Scholes is playing quality, as is Saha. Don't know who's performing worst? Rooney or Riley?
How Rooney hasnt scored is beyond me and I agree with RVN, if we keep missing chances we could pay for it
Guillermo
11-11-2006, 18:53
Need another one ideally, I could see a Blackburn equaliser unless we kill off the game.
vanNistelrooy
11-11-2006, 19:11
Game over. Take a look at my posts during pre-season, how I said we'd be up there again when Scholes returns. What a player.
mufcsean
11-11-2006, 19:27
Excellent performance from Saha and Scholes, i well wasn't expecting Giggs to get that but he did excellently. Been linked with a £22m signing of Torres, but it was in the Sun so i don't believe it really, why has he been left out of the Spain squad btw
3663dawg
11-11-2006, 19:30
come on united, real premier champions, dont let chelski get 3 in a row , big game coming up
Excellent performance from Saha and Scholes, i well wasn't expecting Giggs to get that but he did excellently. Been linked with a £22m signing of Torres, but it was in the Sun so i don't believe it really, why has he been left out of the Spain squad btw
Because he has been playing shit.
Fergie fuck Torres and get Huntelaar
3663dawg
11-11-2006, 19:42
huntelaar is ours mate
Guillermo
11-11-2006, 19:44
huntelaar is ours mate
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Yeah right.
Viperized
11-11-2006, 19:47
why has he been left out of the Spain squad btw
Because he is an incredibly overrated player. If you watch him play you'll see why. A lot of Spanish fans will agree with me. The media hype him up too much.
£22 million? To pay such money for him would make me laugh. Saha is a far better striker than Torres.
Viperized
11-11-2006, 19:47
huntelaar is ours mate
What's next, Ronaldinho?
3663dawg
11-11-2006, 19:54
tell you truth mate i really suspect beckham being our next signing not that im happy with that, come on the scousers
tell you truth mate i really suspect beckham being our next signing not that im happy with that, come on the scousers
That is meaningless on here, say it in the Arsenal thread
ecureuil
11-11-2006, 21:39
Great victory, that. First time we've taken all three at Ewood Park for 8 years.
What's up with Neville these days? He's always injured. He's done his calf in three times in the past two months.
ferdinand93
11-11-2006, 22:05
Great victory, that. First time we've taken all three at Ewood Park for 8 years.
What's up with Neville these days? He's always injured. He's done his calf in three times in the past two months.
and he's pulled out of the England squad too.
ps2gtavc
12-11-2006, 02:02
huntelaar is ours mateHe isn't a midfielder.
AgentZero
12-11-2006, 08:28
when ronaldo fell flat on his ass it made me laugh
Ronaldo_is_fat
12-11-2006, 09:16
How ironic, at the start of the season Fergie stated that the young players like Rooney and Ronaldo are the key to success this season but IMO Scholes, Giggs and Saha are actually the most vital in your team.
3663dawg
12-11-2006, 09:30
obviously your name suggests you may disagree, but i think ronaldo has been the best man u player this season, him or ole, c.ronaldo seemed like he really wanted it against southend, i also think vidics coming on leaps and bounds
Ronaldo_is_fat
12-11-2006, 09:47
well it obviously meant the other Ronaldo
3663dawg
12-11-2006, 10:32
well it obviously meant the other Ronaldo
how obvious you point of a needle
Ronaldo_is_fat
12-11-2006, 12:28
Funny that you are actually discussing about my name
3663dawg
12-11-2006, 12:32
Funny that you are actually discussing about my name
just asking thats all
Ronaldo_is_fat
12-11-2006, 12:37
JUST ASKING TO THE POINT HOW BLOODY OBVIOUS IS IT TO THE UNKNOWN IF YOUR IN THE MAN U THREAD
Now you got a problem with that? You do have a great imagination if you actually derive that C.Ronaldo is fat.
3663dawg
12-11-2006, 12:42
did'nt say that
is your name cockney rhyming slang for tw*t
3663dawg
12-11-2006, 12:44
Now you got a problem with that? You do have a great imagination if you actually derive that C.Ronaldo is fat.
ok sorry for being an arse
Ronaldo_is_fat
12-11-2006, 12:52
ok sorry for being an arse
I felt sorry for your mom
mufcsean
12-11-2006, 14:01
do you have to do that in here ffs, somebody book em
vanNistelrooy
12-11-2006, 14:02
Both of you fuck off, or shut up.
Hopefully the Arse vs Liverpoo will be 0-0, if any team should win I'd prefer Liverpool, simply as I see the Arse as more of a threat than the Scousers.
Lord Shrimpeh
15-11-2006, 11:21
Dave Jones looks likely to join Derby on loan with a view to a permanent transfer in January http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/d/derby_county/6149842.stm
Pity, he was promising. We seem to be selling a lot of youth players these days and with our second squad looking a bit crap I wonder if that's a bit of a risk...
Dave Jones looks likely to join Derby on loan with a view to a permanent transfer in January http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/d/derby_county/6149842.stm
Pity, he was promising. We seem to be selling a lot of youth players these days and with our second squad looking a bit crap I wonder if that's a bit of a risk...
The Glazer salary cutting is in effect.
mufcsean
15-11-2006, 13:42
Shame if he goes looks like a very promising player
ecureuil
15-11-2006, 21:17
Dave Jones looks likely to join Derby on loan with a view to a permanent transfer in January http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/d/derby_county/6149842.stm
Pity, he was promising. We seem to be selling a lot of youth players these days and with our second squad looking a bit crap I wonder if that's a bit of a risk...
That's really disappointing. He's the most promising United youngster I've seen for years.
Why are we offloading him and keeping crap like Richardson?
3663dawg
15-11-2006, 21:39
it is only loan?
im a doughnut
Guillermo
15-11-2006, 21:43
£1m-plus transfer becoming permanent in the January.
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vanNistelrooy
17-11-2006, 18:27
Predicitions for the Sheffield United game? I'm going for 4-0, really depending on the team he puts out though, as we have Celtic in the week and Chelski a week Sunday.
Sheff Utd 0
Man Utd 4
Saha (2)
Ronaldo
Giggs
3663dawg
17-11-2006, 18:32
i think
SHEFF UTD 0
MAN UTD 3
saha, rooney, and neville( yes neville unlucky last time out)
AgentZero
18-11-2006, 07:18
im picking a good old 2-0 ...
deftones5
18-11-2006, 10:54
i actually think this could be a tight game, 2-1 or 3-1
mufcsean
18-11-2006, 13:09
Sheff U 0
Man U 3 - Saha, Giggs, Rooney
and somebody will be sent off for Sheff U
watch it here: http://www.live-footy.org
vanNistelrooy
18-11-2006, 15:18
PHIL THOMPSON IS A PRICK.
1-0 Sheff Utd if you didn't hear Did Hamman's father scream out. Why do they have dicks like this commentate on the United games? Le Tosser is another United hater.
vanNistelrooy
18-11-2006, 16:57
2-1. Ronaldo missed a sitter. Yes it bobbled, but he still should have put it in.
LMAO at Arsenal. C'mon Boro!
Phil Thompson is an annoying cunt!
Guillermo
18-11-2006, 17:02
Oh dear at Ronaldo's misses. :no:
vanNistelrooy
18-11-2006, 17:04
That he is. Why they let him commentate on United games is beyond me. Kudos to him that he did shout GOAL when Rooney equalised, but not a high pitched scream like he did for the Sheff Utd goal.
Maybe I'll scream when Maccarone bangs a hat trick past the scouse pricks!?
ecureuil
18-11-2006, 17:04
Phew.. glad we got through that one. Even if we lose next weekend, we're still top. :)
Ronaldo though.. lol. That's got to be one of the misses of the season. Hopefully he's saving it all for next week. :D
Ronaldo's miss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agUPzp3u6PI
:laugh:
Papa Lazarou
19-11-2006, 14:33
well we got the result with 2 fantastic goals!
bring on chelsea next week
i predict 1-0 Man U Carrick with his first United goal
Dr. Bob Kelso
19-11-2006, 15:03
where is it ? If it is at your gaff I predict a draw, if at theres then you are screwed.
deftones5
19-11-2006, 15:22
yeah it's at OT, 1-0 or 2-0 i reckon
It's at Old Trafford.
And about Michael Carrick scoring the only goal in the game.....:laugh:
*Thinks and then remembers Darren Fletcher scoring the winner last year*
Viperized
19-11-2006, 15:24
I think this will be a close game. Probably a draw.
mufcsean
19-11-2006, 16:16
I also think it will be a draw, which to be honest wouldn't be too bad we would still have a 3 point lead, but Carrick scoring a winner for his first goal would be lovely
vanNistelrooy
19-11-2006, 16:18
I'd take the referee scoring the winner for us. I mean they have it in for Chelski don't they? So it wouldn't be surprising :tongue:
mufcsean
19-11-2006, 16:45
:laugh: hahahaha, that would be hilarious
I don't see us winning tonight, I won't be suprised if we lose
Lord Shrimpeh
21-11-2006, 18:08
Woo for optimism!
Man U have been good in European except for the last game. I don't see any reason why we can't win, that's probably why we won't :p
We suck away from home and Celtic have a good home record in the champions league
vanNistelrooy
21-11-2006, 18:21
Beware United fans, tonight could go completely tits up.
On one hand we could lose tonight, and install a posibility of us not even qualifying from the group stage. On the other we can have the group won by 10:00 tonight.
Hopefully it'll be the latter.
C'MON UNITED!
vanNistelrooy
21-11-2006, 19:12
CELTIC
1 Artur Boruc
3 Lee Naylor
6 Dianbobo Balde
2 Paul Telfer
44 Stephen McManus
15 Evander Sno
18 Neil Lennon
25 Shunsuke Nakamura
16 Thomas Gravesen
7 Maciej Zurawski
10 Jan Vennegoor
46 Aidan McGeady
20 Jirí Jarosik
29 Shaun Maloney
12 Mark Wilson
48 Darren O'Dea
22 David Marshall
9 Kenny Miller
MAN UTD
1 Edwin Van der Sar
15 Nemanja Vidic
4 Gabriel Heinze
5 Rio Ferdinand
2 Gary Neville
11 Ryan Giggs
18 Paul Scholes
7 Cristiano Ronaldo
16 Michael Carrick
9 Louis Saha
8 Wayne Rooney
27 Mikael Silvestre
22 John O'Shea
24 Darren Fletcher
6 Wes Brown
29 Tomasz Kuszczak
23 Kieran Richardson
3 Patrice Evra
vanNistelrooy
21-11-2006, 21:38
Told you it'd go pear shaped! Nice of the referee to listen to the crowd for their free kick.
Saha :no:
ecureuil
21-11-2006, 21:38
Why can't we score away from home in Europe? For 80 minutes of the game we taught Celtic a footballing lesson, we embarrassed them, we had 60% of the possession, we passed it around well, and were in control. One dive and stunning free kick later, and we lose.
Rossy Boy
21-11-2006, 21:39
Shame about your los saha should of scored that pen
The Stig
21-11-2006, 21:40
Why can't we score away from home in Europe? For 80 minutes of the game we taught Celtic a footballing lesson, we embarrassed them, we had 60% of the possession, we passed it around well, and were in control. One dive and stunning free kick later, and we lose.
You forgot to mention the penalty save. Which might I add seemed a little harsh to even be a penalty.
Well looks like the cunts got a lucky win against a side that dominated the gypsies from start to finish. They listened to the scum support and got a fluke free kick and that fucking cunt Artur Boruc saved a crap penalty from Saha at the end.
Hopefully when Celtic fly out to Coppenhagen their plane will crash and they will all die.
[/Barndoor mode]
Told you it'd go pear shaped! Nice of the referee to listen to the crowd for their free kick.
Saha :no:
Ah, I see you have fallen victim to what is called, inTIMidation.
Don't worry, its very common. Just a fortnight ago, Celtic scored in the 6th minute of injury time when 4 were put on the board.
Although you brought it on yourselves, you looked like you couldn't give a shite about the result.
zer0faith
21-11-2006, 21:43
Did anyone not predict Saha would go left?
ecureuil
21-11-2006, 21:43
You forgot to mention the penalty save. Which might I add seemed a little harsh to even be a penalty.
Saha was fucking awful tonight. I knew he would miss.
Did anyone not predict Saha would go left?
Oddly enough I did. Stupid cunt. We need to get Ashton or Johnson in or someone who can put a penalty away. Fucker.
Ah, I see you have fallen victim to what is called, inTIMidation.
Don't worry, its very common. Just a fortnight ago, Celtic scored in the 6th minute of injury time when 4 were put on the board.
Although you brought it on yourselves, you looked like you couldn't give a shite about the result.
That would mean there would be at least 4 minutes of injury time without trying to sound like a twat.
Shame, did it to ourselves. Could have beat Copenhagen but pathetically chose not to and to be honest I couldn't give a flying elephant's arse anymore. It's becoming a joke which I refuse to watch away. If we get knocked out of the CL no one is to blame but us. That way I'd be mildly happy as we can keep our players fitter for the Prem. Screw 'em all.
vanNistelrooy
21-11-2006, 21:46
Ah, I see you have fallen victim to what is called, inTIMidation.
Don't worry, its very common. Just a fortnight ago, Celtic scored in the 6th minute of injury time when 4 were put on the board.
Although you brought it on yourselves, you looked like you couldn't give a shite about the result.
We do that with teams who don't really stand a chance in the competition, gives them that little bit of hope (Arsenal, Copenhagen, Southend and now Celtic).
Still, we'll come up against much much better teams than Celtic, and if we can't put away a goal or two when we're on top, we're screwed.
We need some more players in January. Bringing on Evra and O'Shea to try salvage a draw out of a game is never going to work.
ecureuil
21-11-2006, 21:51
Although you brought it on yourselves, you looked like you couldn't give a shite about the result.
I hate to lose, but I don't care THAT much about the European cup. There's too much cheating involved these days, I spend more time complaining about shit refereeing and cheating playersb than I do enjoying the football.
Premiership all the way for me.
And yes, we desperately need new players, we have no-one on the bench that can make a difference except Ole, and he's injured.
manutdfan1999
21-11-2006, 21:52
thank god! i wasn't the only person that could see saha missin the penalty! i can never understand why united make things so hard for themselves! they had 9 points out of 9 for the first 3 games now lost twice in a row. saha let united down today and through all that dominance in the first half the keep was barely tested! torres needs to come in the summer because saha is not consistent enough! now i can see united playing in the uefa cup the way thier results are going!
that was a nice free kick i must admit no matter how angry i am i must admit that.
let celtic finish top and get barca or lyon!
vanNistelrooy
21-11-2006, 21:56
Torres? Give it a break.
Let Celtic finish top? So they can play Barca who don't have Messi or Eto'o? If there was ever a time to play Barcelona it would be now!
Rossi on loan, Solskjaer and Smith injured. We need a striker on the bench NOW to be honest.
ecureuil
21-11-2006, 21:59
If we lose on Sunday, the wheels really will have fallen off.
Torres? Give it a break.
Let Celtic finish top? So they can play Barca who don't have Messi or Eto'o? If there was ever a time to play Barcelona it would be now!
Rossi on loan, Solskjaer and Smith injured. We need a striker on the bench NOW to be honest.
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/515/hunttj5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Torres ? Rather keep the £20+m which we probably don't even have anyway and spend about £12m on Huntelaar as he's a better striker, simple.
manutdfan1999
21-11-2006, 22:06
torres will be coming. thats the only real potential man utd have the slightest possibilty because i don't believe adu is all that great.
barca are still a good team without eto'o and messi. saviola and guily are still quality players
if man utd manage to get through then they will probably end up facing madrid so i would enjoy that match.... very much RUUUUUUUUUUUDD!
torres will be coming. thats the only real potential man utd have the slightest possibilty because i don't believe adu is all that great.
barca are still a good team without eto'o and messi. saviola and guily are still quality players
if man utd manage to get through then they will probably end up facing madrid so i would enjoy that match.... very much RUUUUUUUUUUUDD!
And I know Torres isn't that great. Remind me again, how many league goals has he bagged this season ? Bring on Huntelaar, he'd be half the price and probably twice the player.
Why would Ajax sell Huntelaar for only 12m? I'm pretty sure if he was for sale there'd be quite a bidding war.
Guillermo
21-11-2006, 22:20
Nice to see United putting a man on the line for the free kick. The most predictable thing I've seen in my life.
And don't even get me started on Saha, I could write a 10 page essay on it.
To be fair, Ajax sell all their top stars for peanuts.
Why would Ajax sell Huntelaar for only 12m? I'm pretty sure if he was for sale there'd be quite a bidding war.
Don't Ajax have a history for being a selling club ?
The fact United have been hot on the trail for The Hunter for ages now will play some part too I imagine.
Stella Artois
21-11-2006, 22:23
"One point and you fucked it!"
That comment is oh so close to being true. :)
Why isit that Celtic go through but we don't?
Nakamura scored one hell of a freekick
Why isit that Celtic go through but we don't?
Because they have sufficient points to qualify as there is only 1 match left. Thought it was simple ? ;)
Stella Artois
21-11-2006, 22:29
Well it isn't to do with the points, more the fact they did better than you over the two games.
Well it isn't to do with the points, more the fact they did better than you over the two games.
Fair really.
Why isit that Celtic go through but we don't?
Celtic - 9 points
United - 9 points
Benfica - 7 points
Copenhagen - 4 points
If United beat Benfica then Celtic still go through, but if Benfica beat us, then they still go through as they're already above us on goal difference.
manutdfan1999
21-11-2006, 22:33
And I know Torres isn't that great. Remind me again, how many league goals has he bagged this season ? Bring on Huntelaar, he'd be half the price and probably twice the player.
torres has got 4 league goals in 10 games and huntelaar 4 league goals in 12 games can anybody suggest any young strikers that united could get that have "true" potential because haha..... i mean saha just isn't enough
It's a joke that they qualify and we don't as we have a better goal difference
It's a joke that they qualify and we don't as we have a better goal difference
Just looked on the UEFA site and noticed that. Now I'm confused:
Uneven goal difference ? (http://www.uefa.com/Competitions/UCL/Standings/Round=2357/Group=2662.html)
Viperized
21-11-2006, 22:44
What a free kick by Nakaruma.
Just looked on the UEFA site and noticed that. Now I'm confused:
Uneven goal difference ? (http://www.uefa.com/Competitions/UCL/Standings/Round=2357/Group=2662.html)
This is down to the fact that Celtic got a draw and a win out of the two games against you.
Stella Artois
21-11-2006, 22:44
They lost away, but it was 3-2.
Just think of it as aggregate games, so given the two scores, they've done better.
Quite simple.
Oh well, thanks for clearing that up guys. Although I thought it only happened when teams were drawn on points 'and' goal difference, clearly not it seems.
I'm sure Fergie will rape them now, bring on Chelski!
Stella Artois
21-11-2006, 22:50
No, it's purely on head to head when you have the same points. It's the reason that Celtic are through. ;)
No, it's purely on head to head when you have the same points. It's the reason that Celtic are through. ;)
Now you're just rubbing it in:
http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/9951/vaseline368glyd7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
:huh:
Dr. Bob Kelso
21-11-2006, 22:55
I would congratulate you on the noise your fans made if it weren't for the fact 90% of the noise you made was about us. Sad really. I wonder why we only have one song about you and you have hundreds for us.
The fact you are moaning about a contentious strike just makes this whole thing all the more satisfactory. Funny not as many people are quick to decry the fact it was never a pen.
FORCA BENFICA. :d
I would congratulate you on the noise your fans made if it weren't for the fact 90% of the noise you made was about us. Sad really. I wonder why we only have one song about you and you have hundreds for us.
The fact you are moaning about a contencious strike just makes this whole thing all the more satisfactory. Funny not as many people are quick to decry the fact it was never a pen.
FORCA BENFICA. :d
Only heard a couple of anti-Liverpool chants to be honest, hardly over the top.
50/50 with the penalty though as despite turning around he did still raise his arms a bit. Hard to call but Saha was always going to miss anyway, possibly the most predictable thing this season.
Dr. Bob Kelso
21-11-2006, 23:02
Only heard a couple of anti-Liverpool chants to be honest, hardly over the top.
50/50 with the penalty though as despite turning around he did still raise his arms a bit. Hard to call but Saha was always going to miss anyway, possibly the most predictable thing this season.
Pretty much the response I would expect. You sang less about United than you did about us as per usual to deny it is laughable. What really takes the cake is that you actually feel a penalty given for turning backwards and then in a natural motion putting your arm to your face is a "50/50" pen decision.
You are that sad you are now copying the tunes we come up with and changing the words. Team of Carraghers and We Won it 5 times are perfect examples. You just will never get over that inferiority complex that drives your club. As I say, very sad.
The Stig
21-11-2006, 23:02
thank god! i wasn't the only person that could see saha missin the penalty! i can never understand why united make things so hard for themselves! they had 9 points out of 9 for the first 3 games now lost twice in a row. saha let united down today and through all that dominance in the first half the keep was barely tested! torres needs to come in the summer because saha is not consistent enough! now i can see united playing in the uefa cup the way thier results are going!
that was a nice free kick i must admit no matter how angry i am i must admit that.
let celtic finish top and get barca or lyon!
Omg, What a knowledgeable fan you are. When you finish top of the group you get the runners up of another group you moron. And in your post why did you keep referring to Man Utd as 'Their' and 'They' instead of 'Our' and 'We'. Your supposed to be a fucking fan mate. And to call Saha not consistent is a joke. He's your topscorer for fuck sake.
Stella Artois
21-11-2006, 23:06
Aren't you the guy who wouldn't watch Liverpool away from home anymore?
Sit down, shut up.
Pretty much the response I would expect. You sang less about United than you did about us as per usual to deny it is laughable. What really takes the cake is that you actually feel a penalty given for turning backwards and then in a natural motion putting your arm to your face is a "50/50" pen decision.
Now you're just being silly man, yes there were clearly anti-Liverpool chants but they certainly didn't outweigh the pro-United chants.
His arms were closer to his abdomen than his face plus just because he turned around shouldn't give him an excuse. What's really laughable is you saying I actually felt it was a penalty decision despite me saying I was 50/50 about it. (EDIT: Mis-read, my apolpgies)
However it's still handball, no matter how many times he spins or looks away from the ball as he put his arms out rather than kept them by his side. Whether it's ball-to-hand or not is another matter, if it exists as there has been arguments about it in the past.
The Stig
21-11-2006, 23:09
Aren't you the guy who wouldn't watch Liverpool away from home anymore?
Sit down, shut up.
I said that because I was quite frankly pissed off. You think you own the place.
Stella Artois
21-11-2006, 23:12
What a stupid thing to say.
Still you're Scouse, I should come to expect it from you I suppose.
Anyway, how do you lot fancy your chances in Portugal? Benfica have been brilliant at home.
Guillermo
21-11-2006, 23:13
Anyway, how do you lot fancy your chances in Portugal? Benfica have been brilliant at home.
It's at Old Trafford. One reason to be optimistic.
The Stig
21-11-2006, 23:15
What a stupid thing to say.
Still you're Scouse, I should come to expect it from you I suppose.
Anyway, how do you lot fancy your chances in Portugal? Benfica have been brilliant at home.
What a stupid thing to say? when on a forum you tell me to... Sit down and shut up just because I was ripping a Man Utd fan that comes from London by judging from his post looks like he knows fuck all about football.
Stella Artois
21-11-2006, 23:17
Ah good point, I forgot you'd beaten them away.
I don't see you having a problem really, I thought you were lucky to get a result out there, but unless you go down to a late goal, I'd be surprised if you didn't progress.
Still, I bet Fergie is ruing putting out a weakened side against Copenhagen.
@ScouseMike: Seriously, shut up.
manutdfan1999
21-11-2006, 23:19
Omg, What a knowledgeable fan you are. When you finish top of the group you get the runners up of another group you moron. And in your post why did you keep referring to Man Utd as 'Their' and 'They' instead of 'Our' and 'We'. Your supposed to be a fucking fan mate. And to call Saha not consistent is a joke. He's your topscorer for fuck sake.
how nice of u to make a comment like that. everybody makes mistakes just like you did. i won't stoop down to your level with the swearing and insults, however you did make a mistake. the way barca are in their behind chelsea they look favourites to finish second in their group!
as far as the 'we' and 'our' goes i have never said that but that does not mean i am not a true fan. everyone is entitled to their opinion but u can never question the passion i have for "MY" team.
is that better you prick!...... i mean moron
Dr. Bob Kelso
21-11-2006, 23:19
Sadly the mancs will still no doubt progress. The only thing in Benficas favour is that they know they have to win and the Mancs could fall into the playing for a draw trap if the score stays level late on.
The Stig
21-11-2006, 23:20
how nice of u to make a comment like that. everybody makes mistakes just like you did. i won't stoop down to your level with the swearing and insults, however you did make a mistake. the way barca are in their behind chelsea they look favourites to finish second in their group!
as far as the 'we' and 'our' goes i have never said that but that does not mean i am not a true fan. everyone is entitled to their opinion but u can never question the passion i have for "MY" team.
is that better you prick!...... i mean moron
:laugh: I bet you've never stepped foot in Old Trafford.
sonic_speed
21-11-2006, 23:23
Only heard a couple of anti-Liverpool chants to be honest, hardly over the top.
50/50 with the penalty though as despite turning around he did still raise his arms a bit. Hard to call but Saha was always going to miss anyway, possibly the most predictable thing this season.
yeah right as if you new saha was gonna miss on a football phone-in 90% of the mu fans say saha will destroy celtic but that didn`t happen.Anyway push off the fact he missed it but most mu fans said he was gonna score tonight
Viperized
21-11-2006, 23:23
His username, manutdfan1999, just says it all.
yeah right as if you new saha was gonna miss on a football phone-in 90% of the mu fans say saha will destroy celtic but that didn`t happen.Anyway push off the fact he missed it but most mu fans said he was gonna score tonight
I never knew, but it was still fairly predictable. Despite Saha having a great goal scoring record this season I still don't have much faith in him to be honest. Just because 90% of tools phoned in to the ever so amazing Sky Sports doesn't mean I lied.
sonic_speed
21-11-2006, 23:29
I never knew, but it was still fairly predictable. Despite Saha having a great goal scoring record this season I still don't have much faith in him to be honest. Just because 90% of tools phoned in to the ever so amazing Sky Sports doesn't mean I lied.
who says anything about sky sports?
dry yours eyes mate lol
manutdfan1999
21-11-2006, 23:35
:laugh: I bet you've never stepped foot in Old Trafford.
IS IT? who told you that? shows how much you know doesnt it? i may live in london but i've been there about 7 times over the last 2 years and thats only because i don't have the money to go on a regular basis have you got any more accusations about me? because i thought that this was the club thread for manchester united and you decide to insult me, especially as you know fuck all about me
Miguel SC
22-11-2006, 00:14
I heard that Ferguson would like to go through with Celtic, so he probably thinks that he is already in the next phase.
How i'd love to see my team winning at Old Trafford, and sending Man U to UEFA...
Charlie: 9
22-11-2006, 01:20
Ah, I see you have fallen victim to what is called, inTIMidation.
Don't worry, its very common. Just a fortnight ago, Celtic scored in the 6th minute of injury time when 4 were put on the board.
Although you brought it on yourselves, you looked like you couldn't give a shite about the result.
Jesus H Christ :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
By the way, lads, its shite to get a wrong decision against your team isnt it? Big time. Cost you the game aswell, tonight and no way was that a penalty, but Boruc done the business.
On a serious note, United showed why they are so good and currently sit atop of the Premiership. I loved the football they played and they'll go very far in the CL, in my opinion. Scholes and co knocked the ball about and had shown sometimes the difference in class, for a fair bit of the game, Celtic werent a step below United, they were a full flight of stairs behind United. Tonights result seen us have possibly our best home win in the CL, better than Benfica, Juventus and so on.
Goodluck against the Chelsea on Sunday, I think itll be a United win.
PS - Ive Ive gloated somewhere in there, ignore it, I still cant believe we won.
PPS- 50! :laugh:
vanNistelrooy
22-11-2006, 22:00
How i'd love to see my team winning at Old Trafford, and sending Man U to UEFA...
It'd be better than last year!
Montana & Co
22-11-2006, 22:01
congratz to the hoops eh?????
and im no a celtic fan
it waz quite a crap game tho
The Celtic result was disappointing. But it's by no means as bigger shock as I'm sure some journos would have you believe yesterday morning.
We bossed the game, and outplayed them for the entire match, but lost the game. That happens in football. The way we played indicates to me that we are a side still playing (almost) to the best of our abilities. And that's why we're top of the championship. Not because we have the strongest side, but because every player thus far has played at, or close to, their best form .
As for Saha, he gets a lot of undue criticism. He's absoloutley vital to this United side. His running has been one of the main reasons why we've torn teams to pieces in the league this season. He's not as clinical as Ruud, and his first touch is often frustrating, but you can attribute a lot of the free-flowing attractive football to Saha being in the starting lineup instead of van Nistelrooy.
I just hope that he can keep the confidence he needs coming into Sunday's game. He looked absoloutley distraught at the final whistle on Tuesday, but to put it in perspective, we didn't play badly, we were unlucky not to win and in the end, just like the Southend game, it shouldn't really make that much difference.
I'm sure that all week we'll have to listen to the Celtic fans and everybody on Sky Sports News going on about how passionate the Celtic fans were, but fuck it. We're watching the best football played by a United side since 2001, so enjoy it while it lasts. If it hasn't gone tits-up by Chewsee on Sunday, it will in december. It'll be long overdue.
AgentZero
24-11-2006, 09:27
in response to many posts regarding how true a fan shouldbe/is.....i think its more of a qualitive thing than a quantitive
2 days until the big game, I would be happy with a draw just to keep us 3 points ahead.
AgentZero
24-11-2006, 10:37
fark that.......i still am bitter about the fact that we had that 3-0 humiliation 2 seasons back....time thump'em 6-2
I still think that their midfield is too strong for ours so if we got a draw I think that would be a good result.
AgentZero
24-11-2006, 10:58
no doubt any point gain would be a good result, especially against chelsea. I think this week is where we bounce back after a couple of not very convincing games
mufcsean
24-11-2006, 15:04
The team will be more than fired up after tuesdays result, but as will Chelsea, when was the last time they lost games in a row, i think this will be a very close draw
Last year we (Chelsea) lost to Betis in the Champions League and then we lost to Man Utd on Super Sunday.
Not good signs for The Blues :no:
Guillermo
24-11-2006, 15:39
fark that.......i still am bitter about the fact that we had that 3-0 humiliation 2 seasons back
Make that 1 season.
We lost 3-1 at home 2 seasons ago :no:
mufcsean
24-11-2006, 16:28
Last year we (Chelsea) lost to Betis in the Champions League and then we lost to Man Utd on Super Sunday.
Not good signs for The Blues :no:
Oh right yeah, i'd forgot bout that, well come on united 1-0
If Drogba is playing we are fucked and even if he doesnt I can't see us winning to be honest
vanNistelrooy
24-11-2006, 19:52
If Drogba is playing we are fucked and even if he doesnt I can't see us winning to be honest
Did anyone ever imagine themselves making such comment? :lol:
Man Utd 1-0 Chelski
Darren Fletcher
wrigh2uk
24-11-2006, 19:57
Did anyone ever imagine themselves making such comment? :lol:
Nope, but the guy is on pure FIYAHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! at the moment
AgentZero
24-11-2006, 20:44
i wish he was actually...
I hope Obi Mikel plays....so the stretford end can taunt him till he cries
Yeah Mikel should play!!! Me i thin it will be a 2-0 win to United.If Drogba plays it might be 3-2.
ecureuil
26-11-2006, 03:15
I have a bad feeling about the game. I just hope Chelsea don't turn up.
Oh, and I doubt Obi Mikel will play. Chelsea are already regretting buying him, he got sent off on his debut, and fell out with Mourinho because he's a whiney shit.
AgentZero
26-11-2006, 06:12
teh easiest 12 Million quid ever made!!!....if performances are to go by im pretty sure we're the underdogs
Guillermo
26-11-2006, 11:56
And so judgement day is upon us. The tension will be unbearable, no matter how exciting the game will be.
teh easiest 12 Million quid ever made!!!....if performances are to go by im pretty sure we're the underdogsYou really aren't in the position to take the piss due to your spending on Carrick now are you?
1-0 HT
Great performance in the first half and a good goal by Saha. We could have got more goals but we couldn't take our chances.
Drogba should be off, he did a blatant elbow on Vidic. In another game with less talk about refs he would have been gone.
Karaoke29
26-11-2006, 16:59
Chelsea have given ManUtd too much room, yet the goal scored by Saha is a stunning one. I think that the result is fair.
Karaoke29
26-11-2006, 17:02
Drogba should be off, he did a blatant elbow on Vidic. In another game with less talk about refs he would have been gone.
Drogba isn't only a cheater, he is also vile.
ecureuil
26-11-2006, 18:04
1 -1 is a fair result, but Chelsea are scummy fuckers. Drogba should have been off, Ballack elbowed Ronaldo and clotheslined Vidic as well as being an utter twat, Carvalho is just a dickhead who is always looking to cheat someone out of it, and Cole was snapping at Ronaldo's heels for the last 10 minutes of the game until he finally injured him.
1-1 FT
Not the score I wanted. If Saha didn't get a touch on Calvalho's header I think Van Der Sar would have saved it and before that Rio gave the ball away which lead to the corner :realmad:. Ronaldo was excellent, our best player in my opinion hopefully he and Saha are not seriously injured otherwise were are fucked
mufcsean
26-11-2006, 18:11
Drogba and Robben need shooting diving fucks, i'd have taken a draw before the game but we really hsould have had the game wrapped up by half time
Karaoke29
26-11-2006, 18:16
Scholes is in his top form and performed well too. Despite retreating to their own territory in the second half, all ManUtd players heve been good in the match (excluding Van Der Sar and Heinze). What is more, I think that Scholes-Carrick compination works and it may be better, but only after paying more attention to their defensive roles.
Happy with the result as in the second half Chelsea dominated, negative substitutions from Fergie summed it up.
Guillermo
26-11-2006, 18:23
Ronaldo was excellent
Final ball let him down once again.
negative substitutions from Fergie summed it up.
How exactly is he supposed to do positive substitutions?
I'll settle for the draw, and in the end I think it was the fair result.
Well the fact that he couldn't do any positive substitutions annoyed me, no strikers on the bench.
Karaoke29
26-11-2006, 18:27
I don't look at the situation from the side that you look at. Ferguson's been satisfied with the draw, thus he decided to protect his own half and to give Chelsea no room especilly in the midfield. In fact, Chelsea tried their best in the second half to score, that's why ferguson has no choice to do other than depending on counter attacks and securing his box.
Anyway, I think that the draw is more useful to ManUtd. They are still the Premiership leader.
I'll settle for the draw, and in the end I think it was the fair result.
The same opinion as mine.
Final ball let him down once again.
How exactly is he supposed to do positive substitutions?
I'll settle for the draw, and in the end I think it was the fair result.
True, he also needs to defend and help Gary Neville a lot more
vanNistelrooy
26-11-2006, 20:41
Ronaldo is frustrating me like hell. He NEVER gets back. We're playing against the current champions and he never gets back to help with the defending.
How Drogba stayed on the pitch is beyond me. He stared at the player for a couple of seconds then jumped and elbowed him. Pathetic.
1-1 FT
Not the score I wanted. If Saha didn't get a touch on Calvalho's header I think Van Der Sar would have saved it and before that Rio gave the ball away which lead to the corner :realmad:. Ronaldo was excellent, our best player in my opinion hopefully he and Saha are not seriously injured otherwise were are fucked
So you're saying Saha should have left the ball and risk it going in anyway? Don't be stupid. Ronaldo best player? Ha! Ignore the second half as we weren't even at the races. Carrick was our best player today.
Zoolander
26-11-2006, 20:44
Our squad needs adding to & we need a freekick specialist. Fletcher is shithole!
Ronaldo is frustrating me like hell. He NEVER gets back. We're playing against the current champions and he never gets back to help with the defending.
How Drogba stayed on the pitch is beyond me. He stared at the player for a couple of seconds then jumped and elbowed him. Pathetic.
So you're saying Saha should have left the ball and risk it going in anyway? Don't be stupid. Ronaldo best player? Ha! Ignore the second half as we weren't even at the races. Carrick was our best player today.
I didn't say that but from the replay, it looked like VDS was going to save it. As for Ronaldo I still feel he was out best player, he was the only player who took on the Chelsea players and for once he actually gave Ashley Cole a hard time on the left
vanNistelrooy
26-11-2006, 20:50
Cole kept Ronaldo at bay more times than he skipped past him. Even when he did there was no-one in there or he couldn't deliver. Getting past players and doing nothing is useless. van Der Sar would have had it, but if Saha had left it and it'd gone in SAF would have roasted him.
What Saha did wasn't wrong, he had every right to stop the header, but I simply said that if he didn't get a touch then VDS would have saved it.
1-1 FT
Not the score I wanted. If Saha didn't get a touch on Calvalho's header I think Van Der Sar would have saved it and before that Rio gave the ball away which lead to the corner :realmad:. Ronaldo was excellent, our best player in my opinion hopefully he and Saha are not seriously injured otherwise were are fuckedYou must have been watching a different game to me as Ashley Cole had him in his back pocket.
You must have been watching a different game to me as Ashley Cole had him in his back pocket.
Not really because in the past Ronaldo struggled to get past A.Cole but today there were occasions where he went past him, not only that some of the chelsea couldn't stop Ronaldo not even Robben
Not really because in the past Ronaldo struggled to get past A.Cole but today there were occasions where he went past him, not only that some of the chelsea couldn't stop Ronaldo not even Robben
"Occasions" is simply not good enough. It barely merits a good performance, nevermind our best player performance.
As Ruud said, Carrick done well for us today and stuck the foot in like we all want, I was elated with some of tackles. In all honesty, I'm glad he got a booking, he needs to throw himself about even if it means he'll pick up a card here and there.
Scholes was tight on Lampard, nearly left him with no ankles by the end of the match. Rio was good for the most part, but as he is Rio, he made a mistake or two.
Karaoke29
26-11-2006, 21:25
You must have been watching a different game to me as Ashley Cole had him in his back pocket.
I think so as well. Ronaldo passed Cole just twice and the two chances created weren't dangerous at all. Cole did dominate Ronaldo.
I think so as well. Ronaldo passed Cole just twice and the two chances created weren't dangerous at all. Cole did dominate Ronaldo.
Yes but when he says he had him in his back pocket must mean that he didn't get past him once or am I wrong?
mufcsean
26-11-2006, 22:40
Ronaldo was poor when it came to him v cole, and i agree Messiah on both accounts, we need a free kick specialist instead of Ronaldo keep twatting at the wall or into row ZZ, and yes Fletcher is DISGRACEFUL
Karaoke29
27-11-2006, 00:20
Yes but when he says he had him in his back pocket must mean that he didn't get past him once or am I wrong?
No, you aren't. Ronaldo already created 2 or 3 chances from nothing. However, the winner here is Cole due to his success in marking Ronaldo. That's all!
ecureuil
27-11-2006, 01:35
Yeah, Cole dealt with Ronaldo really well today.
It's not always like that, though. If you remember the FA Cup final vs. Arsenal, which we somehow lost - Ronaldo completely owned Cole all over the park in that game. Although I seem to remember Ronaldo switching over both wings during the game, so he wasn't always on the right. Cole is an utter loathsome twat, but he's a decent player.
We need a couple more players, that's for sure. I hope we can hold on until the transfer period, then bring someone decent in. We typically have our best spell of the season towards the end, and if that happens again, we're in with a great chance. I just hope we don't have a collapse in the next month. :/
We play Chelsea at Stamford Bridge on April 14th, and I'm getting way ahead of myself hear, but if we're still neck and neck at that point, that will probably decide who wins the league. If we can, again, go in to it with a three point cushion, we could either kill off the league, or make it very hard for ourselves. But there's a long way to go, and anything could happen..
Thought Vidic was your best player today, kept Drogba quiet all day long.
Cristiano Ronaldo n Ryan Giggs were the best 4 United fullstop
Saha's doing like @#$*@@#**^%%!#(won/t swear gonna get sent off i think never read the rules lol)[If there r any rules] missing lots of chances Cristiano struggled to give him a ball he just ran past it n a scummy blue just kikced it forward.
Even though, Saha has made a DOUBLE scoring a goal against Chelsea and one FOR Chelsea. Carvalho headed the ball then it touched Saha n went in. If he hadn't been there VDS could have easily saved it!!!! Saha's been bad these days missing a penalty against Celtic.I didn't watch the game wasnt shown on TV n i don't have Satelite TV.So i get only maximum of two Man Utd premiership games per month.There is only 1 premiership match per week
AgentZero
27-11-2006, 07:48
@Hunter Love the sig
Cristiano Ronaldo n Ryan Giggs were the best 4 United fullstop
Giggs was good, Ronaldo was not. Just because he had the ball a lot of the time doesn't particularly mean he did anything with it.
Saha's doing like @#$*@@#**^%%!#(won/t swear gonna get sent off i think never read the rules lol)[If there r any rules] missing lots of chances Cristiano struggled to give him a ball he just ran past it n a scummy blue just kikced it forward.
Even though, Saha has made a DOUBLE scoring a goal against Chelsea and one FOR Chelsea. Carvalho headed the ball then it touched Saha n went in. If he hadn't been there VDS could have easily saved it!!!! Saha's been bad these days missing a penalty against Celtic.I didn't watch the game wasnt shown on TV n i don't have Satelite TV.So i get only maximum of two Man Utd premiership games per month.There is only 1 premiership match per week
You can swear motherfucker! It's not PESFan.
I definetely think you're being harsh on Saha here, I mean he had to go for the header. He probably didn't even know VDS lept across the goal to save it, and if he didn't attempt he'd have his bollocks ripped out in the dressing room.
Hunter Love the sig
Coolio.
Regardless of which pocket, Cole, had Ronaldo in, it took all of the sideback's skill to keep Ronaldo quiet. People can say whatever they want about Ronaldo, but they guy is an excellent winger.
I enjoyed seeing Rooney and Ronaldo celebrate. I thought it was a beautiful moment. :)
vanNistelrooy
27-11-2006, 09:27
Saha's doing like @#$*@@#**^%%!#(won/t swear gonna get sent off i think never read the rules lol)[If there r any rules] missing lots of chances Cristiano struggled to give him a ball he just ran past it n a scummy blue just kikced it forward.
Even though, Saha has made a DOUBLE scoring a goal against Chelsea and one FOR Chelsea. Carvalho headed the ball then it touched Saha n went in. If he hadn't been there VDS could have easily saved it!!!! Saha's been bad these days missing a penalty against Celtic.I didn't watch the game wasnt shown on TV n i don't have Satelite TV.So i get only maximum of two Man Utd premiership games per month.There is only 1 premiership match per week
Another idiot blaming Saha for their goal. Saha gives us a whole other dimension, one Ruud didn't. He may not be as prolific infront of goal but his pace in behind defenders is why we've done so well in the league up to now.
AgentZero
27-11-2006, 10:13
Regardless of which pocket, Cole, had Ronaldo in, it took all of the sideback's skill to keep Ronaldo quiet. People can say whatever they want about Ronaldo, but they guy is an excellent winger.
I enjoyed seeing Rooney and Ronaldo celebrate. I thought it was a beautiful moment. :)
you make it sound that they hold hands or something
I think Chelsea's greatest positive from that match must be injuring Ronaldo and Saha. United have a clear starting 11 and behind them, only Evra for Heinze is a close replacement. Solskjaer for Saha and Fletcher for Ronaldo as replacements just aren't good enough for a champion team. Chelsea were able to bring on subtitutes like Robben, Joe Cole and Paulo Ferreira but United could only call on Fletcher and O'Shea.
Stella Artois
27-11-2006, 11:24
I don't understand Mourinho's comments to be honest, we absolutely outplayed you lot and won, yet Chelsea get a draw and suddenly everything is coming up blue?
Was a boring game I thought, but I felt you shaded it overall.
AgentZero
27-11-2006, 11:33
mourinho is way too cryptic sometimes, i think he tries to be really smart and complex but he's just talking bollocks.
Lord Shrimpeh
27-11-2006, 12:01
Our crappy bench is the only reason Chelsea drew with us. There was just no one to come on who could make a difference. All Fergie could do is shore up the midfield which he did too late.
If we get some quality in in the transfer window we have a chance at winning the league. If we don't, I don't think we will.
deftones5
27-11-2006, 12:25
yeah we need another striker and good midfield back-up
mufcsean
27-11-2006, 13:23
When i saw the two benches yesterday i couldnt stop laughing, where they had J Cole, Robben and Ferreira we had O' Shea, Fletcher and Silvetsre, our first choice team is unbelievably good but the back up players just arent good enough, we need more back up especially up front
Stella Artois
27-11-2006, 13:53
"Unbelievably good"? As if. ;)
Chelsea have a tough game away to Bolton this week, were they to lose that it would make the fact you didn't beat them even more significant.
Yeah hunter i agree am bein a bit 2 harsh on Saha i just said it out of anger,was a bit annoyed by the home draw!!!
And yeah wat bout any players tipped 2 United apart from Torres n Adu n Higuain n HARGREAVES!!! Yeah again bout Saha i said this cuz i get to watch only one premiership game per week and its not always United.
Satelite TV is damn expensive here in Mauritius.There r only 3 free channels n the TNT has only 6 channels where there is no soccer channels.hopefully cable TV will b arriving soon n am gonna see more United games.Its mainly cuz i don't get the chance to see Saha play too often.but in the few matches i saw him play he did play well.And why isn't Park J S playin anymore this season he hasn't even been on the bench once.
Park is the best utility player of the Premiership which is very good.He plays RMF,LMF,AMF,CMF,DMF,Support Striker and Winger!!!!! Why isn't he even on the bench???? Is he suspended or injured???
There is an edit button ya know
mufcsean
27-11-2006, 15:49
PLEASE put them together and Delete your posts, and your right stella (not that your ever wrong of course :tongue:) Chelsea's trip to Bolton will not be an easy game and we have Everton at home which we will no doubt win so we could open the gap a bit more
[QUOTE=mufcsean;869460]PLEASE put them together and Delete your posts,
Now that i've done this can anyone tell me why Park Ji Sung hasn't even been on the bench so far this season.
Guillermo
27-11-2006, 18:04
And yeah wat bout any players tipped 2 United apart from Torres n Adu n Higuain n HARGREAVES!!!
God, not another one.
[QUOTE=mufcsean;869460]PLEASE put them together and Delete your posts,
Now that i've done this can anyone tell me why Park Ji Sung hasn't even been on the bench so far this season.
Because he's injured.
vanNistelrooy
27-11-2006, 21:47
"Unbelievably good"? As if. ;)
Good enough not to get our asses handed to us by the big bad bullies that are Bolton ;)
Congrats on the Vet status, when did that happen?
mufcsean
28-11-2006, 00:35
Yeah i was wondering that Stella, also ath10, i dont know how you quoted me saying that about Park Ji Sung but i never said that
vanNistelrooy
28-11-2006, 12:12
Sheva to United anyone? Obv I'm only going on rumours that Chelski are looking to offload him. But the way that the joke club they are run things I wouldn't be surprised! We were linked with him 2 or 3 times in the past. SAF surely would get him back to his old self? Then again Chelski wouldn't let him go cheap OR to us would they?
deftones5
28-11-2006, 12:31
never gonna happen, wouldn't want him anyway judging by the way he's started for chelski. he can't stick the pace of the premiership. would love Huntelaar or even D.Bent, but we def need some midfield cover
Hey i think this Micah Richards will be a good defender or Dawson and there is also A.Ferdinand who is very good too.I'd like Torres to come he'd pair up well with Rooney I think Tevez also would be good but then the aerial play upfront wouldnt b too good cuz both Rooney and Tevez r short(especially Tevez) and i think the two of them would clash cuz Tevez plays a bit like Rooney.D.Bent would be good with Rooney too cuz he plays 4 the national team so its kinda they gonna always play together.
vanNistelrooy
28-11-2006, 14:54
Richards, Dawson, Ferdinand? I agree we should sign atleast one of these overrated ENGLISH defenders. Maybe we could sell one of our quadrants to afford to buy them?
vanNistelrooy
28-11-2006, 15:09
DOUBLE BOOST FOR UNITED
Park Ji-sung and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer are set to resume full training for Manchester United.
Park has been sidelined since damaging ankle ligaments in United's 1-0 victory over Tottenham in September.
Solskjaer, meanwhile, has not played since pulling a hamstring in the final seconds of the shock UEFA Champions League defeat to Copenhagen at the start of the month.
However, Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson has now confirmed that both players are ready to return and will be fit to feature in the gruelling schedule of fixtures running up to Christmas.
"Ji-sung and Ole will begin training this week which is great news for us," Ferguson told Manchester United Radio.
"With the hectic December period coming up it's great we'll have those players available."
Ferguson also revealed that Alan Smith is being put through a special training programme in a bid to boost his fitness.
He explained: "Alan is coming along fine. We've changed his fitness programme with the first team - he's now doing special training to aid his speed.
"He's responding well and is enjoying it. He realises that there is a lot of hard work involved but he's putting everything into it."
Source (http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=431790&CPID=8&clid=1&lid=&title=Double+boost+for+United)
Yeah i was wondering that Stella, also ath10, i dont know how you quoted me saying that about Park Ji Sung but i never said that
I'm not too sure either but anyway it was directed at dede_11.
mufcsean
28-11-2006, 18:38
Haha no worries mate, i dont want Sheva, not that they would ever let him come here, but i agree about the defenders, we cant spend the money on those overrated players, i saw a video on Nani today at college he looks very good, bet he would cost a bomb though, and the news on Ole and Park is good
Richards, Dawson, Ferdinand? I agree we should sign atleast one of these overrated ENGLISH defenders. Maybe we could sell one of our quadrants to afford to buy them?
I agree, but I think Dawson does have talent, he has been good for Tottenham since he has joined and is always improving, the other 2 are both hype players.
Yeah Dawson would b good pairing with Ferdinand they can also score headers too cuz they are damn tall.I'd say send O'shea or Silvestre to Tottenham for Dawson. Btw do any of u guys know wen players like Neville
,Giggs and Scholes are gonna retire?
Hey check this link out its a goal of Nani from youtube
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6747109766018525628&q=nani&hl=en
Sorry for the double post
mufcsean
29-11-2006, 16:54
EDIT it then if you are sorry, he does look bloody good though doesnt he
Yeah Dawson would b good pairing with Ferdinand they can also score headers too cuz they are damn tall.I'd say send O'shea or Silvestre to Tottenham for Dawson.Genius mate. Send them one of your shit players in return for a promising young English talent worth about five times as much. Tottenham will bite your arms off. Ever thought of going into management?
vanNistelrooy
29-11-2006, 17:10
Genius mate. Send them one of your shit players in return for a promising young English talent worth about five times as much. Tottenham will bite your arms off. Ever thought of going into management?
Don't be a cretin! Why would you want to sell one of those talents to another team in your league? Dammit people, think before you post!
Full Time: 3-0, bit of a routine win, goals from Ronaldo, Evra and O'Shea. I was a bit worried about this game but it has turned out fine.
Papa Lazarou
29-11-2006, 21:58
good that we won well...and great that the Arse lost AGAIN!!
Viperized
29-11-2006, 22:06
Man United are looking very strong.
They certainly look like they will win the title.
Nah I still think Chelsea will win it
mufcsean
29-11-2006, 22:35
I dont, i think we can go all the way, with key people missing today we still beat an alright team by 3 goals to nil, arsenal lost again thats bad
Guillermo
29-11-2006, 22:38
If we buy someone like Torres/Huntelaar in the January window I could definitely see us take Chelsea right to the end, but as things stand Chelsea just have too much strength in depth.
vanNistelrooy
29-11-2006, 22:51
I had a tenner on United to win and 3 or more goals scored. John O'Fucking Shea out of all people. Love it!
Apparently his goal was an outside of the boot flick over the keeper, I can't wait too see it on Match Of The Day.
vanNistelrooy
29-11-2006, 22:57
I had the game on stream but it was so stop/go I couldn't watch it. That and I had money so had to listen the Gordon McQueen on SS1.
What does everyone think of Evra? Last season I thought he was pretty poor but this season he has come on leaps and bounds, he is playing so well I think Fergie will have problems dropping to fit Heinze in.
Yes I agree, he has been playing well and I am not suprised at all despite his start with us last season. Fergie is going to have problems deciding weather to pick Evra or Heinze
vanNistelrooy
29-11-2006, 23:03
I thought both Evra and Vidic were far off Premiership quality. But now...
Vidic - It wasn't long ago I said I still didn't rate him. He's not throwing himself into every challenge and giving away needless free kicks anymore, which is good. He's starting to play like Rio does so that can only be good (other than when Rio goes walkies like he does every now and then).
Evra - I always rated him going forward, but not as a defender. He seems to stand his players up alot more now. Teams still take advantage of his height, or lack there of, but SAF must realise this is going to happen when he plays him.
I don't think there's much harm in playing him over Heinze, as Gabby hasn't looked any good as he was before his injuries.
vanNistelrooy
29-11-2006, 23:25
Apparently his goal was an outside of the boot flick over the keeper, I can't wait too see it on Match Of The Day.
Just seen it on Football First. Nothing special. Ball played in by Evra, he does a kind of outside of the foot poke towards top near corner, keeper pushes in off the post.
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