Manchester United

[Cannon ball]

skintstudent you support Man U and live in birmingham? interesting.

[skullverine]

currently united leading 2-1. Smith's header

[Haz-e]

~prays Man Utd don't concede another goal so he doesn't lose any points on his BBC sport Fantasy Football~

[skullverine]

let me add mine

~prays Rooney to score a goal because he is in my Yahoo Fantasy Football team

[Haz-e]

he missed a penalty

[skullverine]

i know that he missed the penalty.. if he doesnt score a goal after the missed penalty, he'll get - points, which is bad for me

Anyway, the 2nd half just started.. again palace are levelled again!

[Haz-e]

ahh for shits sake, that's -1 for Roy Carrol then. Who scored for Palace?

[Slaytor]

anyone sitting in the stretford end hear all the "Mr Mystery" chants, well fucking funny

[zargoth]

there is no god!

[Cannon ball]

Originally Posted by Stoneman
Whats so interesting about that? Enlighten me.


I just thought you supported a midlands team.

[carlos nino]

unlucky united scum looks like ur out of the champions league

[JimmyHill11]

. If Jaap Stam thinks that Manchester United are THE best team to play for in england, then there must be other quality players like him who would love to play for us. We need to find more players like him. Its just a shame that he and Sir Alex couldn't sort out their differences in the end.

It wasn't just difference with SAF that saw Jaap on his way. His book referred to the Nevilles for instance as 'a couple of busy c*nts'. I guess that is him playing up the stereotype of being the outspoken, opiniated dutch footballer but the other stereotype is that Dutch footballers aren't the best when it comes to team unity. That's why he went, for his overall affect on the team spirit. That is the one thing SAF won't abide, someone being a primadonna and disrutpting the bond between all the players. That is why Beckham wemt and I daresay it might have something to do with why he is giving Ronaldo a rest period. I reckon it is also partly a cooling off period. Ronaldo is young and inexperianced and so Sir Alex will be willing to give him more chances to appreciate his team mates but proabably not too many chances.
Hopefully Ronaldo can look up to the example of Smith. He had a very tough transfer, he puts the team first and is willing to wait until he gets his chances (eg he lost his place to Ruud when Ruud came back from injury) and certainly doesn't chase the personal glory but still manages to score more goals them when he was at Leeds.

I wonder what reception Stam will get at OT ?

[Darth Daft]

Hopefully Ronaldo can look up to the example of Smith.

be very careful in going down this road, yes Smith is an example to most of uniteds squad this season and yes Ronaldo hasnt been at his best and has been wasteful recently, but i remember who was nobbing Smith's girlfriend not long after he came over to England when Smith was still at Lids and im betting this wasnt far from Smiths mind when he had a pop at him the other day.

[nico stallion]

stonbitch evrywere i look u r there, u r a glory hunter ur not even a proper man utd fan, i bet u r an arsenal fan deep down cok suker

[carlos nino]

he probably an arsenal fan all the way the scum cock

[adams9802]

he probably an arsenal fan all the way the scum cock
God you're an annoying little fucker aren't you?

[Gary G]

What the hell are you talking about?

Is it not obvious? Ronaldo was nobbing Smiths bitch, according to him.

[nico stallion]

bad blood in the united dressing room

[carlos nino]

God you're an annoying little fucker aren't you?


we can argue or we can teach these utd scum bags a lesson

wats it gonna be

[pier69]

carlos and nico , u guys are everywhere , and u are so funny i always lmao whenever i see u guys talkin to each other

[S-D-P]

what gives carlos nino the right to call united fans scum when most roma fans are the most disgustingly behaved fans in europe,he is just a jealous twat who's team are almost gone from sight.

[JimmyHill11]

See the thing is, us selling Stam was the catalyst in our so called 'decline'. It left our defence in tatters.

Your're right there. He was awsome no nonsense defender who you just can't replace. On the other hand, after he shot his mouth off and got shipped to Lazio he got done for Steroids so all in all even though he was a massive loss to the team it was maybe for the better. We had a bad defensive record that season but the main catalyst for the 'decline' I reckon was breaking up the most effective midfield in the Prem and changing style of play to accomodate new players. Even now it is still proving hard to find players for a midfield anywhere near as good as the what we had before Keane was in his prime and Beckham up his own ass

[lariz]

by breaking up the midfield do you mean selling beckham?

[adams9802]

by breaking up the midfield do you mean selling beckham?
Exactly if Becks was the one man holding that midfield together I must say it was already in decline. AS for I think we all can see what a crap player Beckham really is.

[AgentZero]

Exactly if Becks was the one man holding that midfield together I must say it was already in decline. AS for I think we all can see what a crap player Beckham really is.

well hes not as bad as some gooners :D.....the decline was due to the shift of style in play before it was more possesion n tempo play (i reckon) ........ wats this about smith n ronaldo sum1 xplain

[Teekay]

Becks was a football player when at ManU. When ha became too much of a celebrity, Sir Ferguson shipped him to Real. Where he has been shit. He used to control ManU's game from the right side, he was a good footballer and I respect that, but he has changed into a popstar really.

[Fab]

http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/TV2/archive/00120/Rio_Ferdinand_120475a.jpg

Manchester United are reportedly prepared to open talks with Rio Ferdinand regarding a contract extension

The 26-year-old's performances have been a primary factor in United's upsurge in form and he is due to be rewarded at the end of the season.

But that has not stopped Premiership rivals Chelsea being sporadically linked with a bid for Ferdinand, with the big-spending London club likely to top the ex-West Ham United ace's Old Trafford salary.

Source: http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=247691&CPID=8&CLID=1&lid=&title=Rio+set+for+deal+reward&channel=Premiership

There was no doubt about Man Utd offering him a new contract, but Chelsea wanting to buy him, i could probably see Alex selling Rio. as The Godfather Corleone would say ' Make em an offer he cant refuse'. Ok, Ambrahamovic wont exactly shoot Alex in the head, or cut his horses head off and place it in his bed when hes sleeping, but he will offer him a lot of money.

[Figо10]

Becks was a football player when at ManU. When ha became too much of a celebrity, Sir Ferguson shipped him to Real. Where he has been shit. He used to control ManU's game from the right side, he was a good footballer and I respect that, but he has changed into a popstar really.
Agree.

Becks doesn't possess any extraordinary qualities at all, other than precision from dead ball situations. So much for a world-class superstar, poor dribbling, tackling, heading, etc...

[Teekay]

He still has the freekicks as Figo10 said, but Becks has no dribbling skills, no pace whatsoever. He was so embarassing in Euro 2004. He was hiding in the right flank only passing backwards. And those penalties, even I would have shot better.

[AgentZero]

due to the fact that real is not a champion team but a teams of champions, but becks still prove he can still score goals out side of deadballers eg. wales game.........not too smart tho (the comment he made after the game)

[Figо10]

He still has the freekicks as Figo10 said, but Becks has no dribbling skills, no pace whatsoever. He was so embarassing in Euro 2004. He was hiding in the right flank only passing backwards. And those penalties, even I would have shot better.
I wonder what he was trying there, perhaps aiming for the top corners, but any sensible person, even us, would just aim for the bottom ones. Low shots are harder to save and easier to be on target.

[akaj]

Come On Milan. 5 Nil Or Just 4 Nil Depending On Magic Roy.

[bbjaylive]

For England, Beckham usually depends on Gary Neville to get past people in order to make a cross. He is just idly occupying his position now, thanks to Sven and the better player SWP has to watch from the bench.

[label]

Although I'm a Milan fan, I'll use the word 'we' when talking about Man Utd, as it's my favourite in England.

Stunning result against Exeter. I can't believe we couldn't get a goal and played like crap. Not even our subs (Ronaldo, Scholes, Smith) were able to score a goal.

Yes, we really need to get rid of the dead wood and need a new manager. Fergie' has been one of the best managers in the world for a long time, but last season I think it started. He's losing his touch. Although Porto won the CL, I can't say I wasn't very disappointed for losing to them.

And the Carling Cup match against Chelsea. We must go with a first team squad, but give two or three guys a chance. Maybe bring them in as subs. Chelsea's not going to play their reserves.

[Lost seraphim]

I think forcing Fergie out would be very disrespectful, besides, who else would be suitable to run Man Utd?

[Figо10]

United should play a close to full strength squad against Chelsea. They will be fielding a very strong starting team, with the exception of Arjen Robben who's suspended. And if Fergie is thinking or getting a consolation trophy this season it's probably in this competition.

Chelsea at Stamford Bridge are a strong opposition, United wouldn't stand a chance if they fielded players like Bellion, Fletcher, Richardson etc. They're not experienced enough to play in a grand stadium against numerous world stars.

[Hunter]

i agree Fergie needs to be moved but i ask myself one question. Who would replace him ??
to me and many Man Utd fans even if we are going through a rough time he is irreplacable.

flops - Bellion , Djemba , Kleberson

[Papa Lazarou]

Hey, dont sell Bellion!! i think he can be really good!!!

Buy Gravesen, i diodnt think he was any good but after watchin a few maches, i think he would be a great aqquisition. do a swap deal him for Kleberson

[Darth Daft]

I didn't say the board would force Fergie out of the club completely. I bet that they plan on "moving him upstairs" as a sign of respect.

i'll bet they aren't..... He aint going no-where until he's ready to.


Arsenal seem to be doing that all the time. Thats why our reserve team is worse than theirs.

errr..... now this normally can never really be proved one way or the other, but didnt our reserves beat them 1-0 VERY recently? :rolleyes:

Arsenal get away with playing reserve players now and then because Wenger isnt afraid to risk players like Vieira, Lauren, Toure, hell even Henry to back them up in the 'easy' games 90% of the time, but, every time he does that he's taking a big risk which one day maybe might haunt him.

Whenever he is asked why he hasnt given the likes of campbell or vieira a rest after these types of games he says "i havent got a big enough squad not to" - surely not the words of someone with a fantastic reserve team?

In contrast if we played Rio, Keano or Giggsy in these sort of games they would very likely end up fucked then we'd be in more of a shambles then we already are. Wengers merely a gambler of epic proportions but good luck to him I say.

So, to recap, Richardson, Eagles, Bellion and Jones to just name a few may very well all become top players, but we arent going to see it if they arent given a chance to come through

A) Gradually

and

B) ONE AT A TIME!!

If fergie thinks he can recreate the 'golden generation' of the nevilles, becks, scholes etc in one fell swoop, then he's mistaken, that was a one off.

[Hunter]

Hey, dont sell Bellion!! i think he can be really good!!!

Buy Gravesen, i diodnt think he was any good but after watchin a few maches, i think he would be a great aqquisition. do a swap deal him for Kleberson

i completely disagree.
simple way - Bellion is shite !

[Darth Daft]

Well, I'll bet they're seriously thinking about it. I think, they SHOULD be looking at potential future managers to takeover anywhere in the next 1-3 years.

yeah, in maybe 3 years, but they cant really go looking without giving Sir the major hump, and a lot can change in three years, a year before Wenger joined arsenal, no-one had heard of him, and before Porto won the Uefa cup, no-one really rated Mourinho.



Oh, come on! We beat them 1-0 because of a mistake by Almunia. The original shot by Bellion was straight at the keeper and as a result, that goal changed the game as that goal was scored in the 1st minute. Had we not scored then, we might well have struggled to get a result.

yeah we might have done, but we didnt because Arsenal were absolutley dogshit, trust me, i was at the game, and Howard only looked troubled from Pennants free kick. To be honest, i was majorly dissapointed in the gooners reserves, i thought they were out of their depth at OT. Im not saying our reserves are fantastic, but dont believe all the media hype bigging up the gooners reserves, they arent anything like our golden generation, but there is one or two talented players in the team, just like ours.


Richardson is just too clumsy. Whenever he plays, he ALWAYS loses the ball and whenever he gets a chance in on goal, he fluffs it. Just look at the weekend and the Fenerbahce away game to prove my point. I just can't see him becoming even a decent winger. Eagles can become a top player but he really needs to bulk up. Bellion is just speed and thats about it. I haven't seen enough of Jones so I can't judge him.

I still dunno about Richardson, for the youth team, he has showed some awesome stuff no doubt, and i think hes done enough for the 1st team to not be dumped just yet, Eagles as you say needs to build himself up but even then im sceptical of his chances.

But lucky for Bellion and company, Fergie doesnt have many options at the moment so they'll get their lifeline chance before Fergie shows his ruthlesness and clears house.

[AgentZero]

hahaha force fergie out of MU, unlikely he made MU wat they are the board will have to wait for him to retire no way he is getting "forced" to leave, suitable replacement probably Del Bosque and Quieroz wouldnt b as shocking as he was w/ madrid. Label where do u lay your loyalties when United Face milan in CL, chelsea should be tough but i reckon fergie will field a reserve teams w/ some of the first team youngsters (i know rooney and ronaldo r playin) and we should be able to beat chelski, we did beat the arse

[Ronaldo 9]

Hi MAN FAN..

I just wanted to ask you whether MAN has a match tonight against chelsea or not.. has it?

sorry for bothering..

Shaft

[Figо10]

I don't know what side Chelsea will put out tonight, though United welcome back John O'Shea, Quinton Fortune and Louis Saha from injury. And Wayne Rooney is set to start immediately after his ban, which means he's probably polaying tonight.

[label]

Label where do u lay your loyalties when United Face milan in CL,

Milan definetly. As you can see from my sig and everything I support Milan above all.

[Nick Neville]

Go on Chelsea!!! Allez les Bleus, allez les Bleus!!!

[AgentZero]

u forget the fact that united seem 2 rise to the occasion when it comes 2 big games, no one backed us winnin 2-0 agains the gooners, and anfield has been a good hunting ground 4 united and a certain mr forlan....Dudek will dearly miss him.
The last time we lost 2 l'pool was at OT late last season and it was a dubios pen call.....HAVE FAITH

[Figо10]

I'll say United will run out 2-1 winners at Anfield. Morientes seems to be effective wherever he goes, and will possibly score on his debut. Hopefully he isn't ready to play yet :) Liverpool haven't looked like title contenders so far this season yet.

Is van Nistelrooy still out??

[-=[101st]=-]

is morientes can work extremely well with monaco i am quite confident he will work well at liverpool.. i am going to keen to watch how he can benefit from gerrards service.. against the United defense..

[Figо10]

It'll be an honour for him if he can score on is Liverpool and Premiership debut, or better still, get a brace :)

[S-D-P]

That was are best performance all season IMO,the defence looked fantastic and keane looks back to his best at the moment.

[Highway Penguin]

They did play well, but I think that we did quite well as well.

Rooney's goal was a shocking one, I have no idea how Dudek missed that.
You all have to admit that.

Brown was crazy though.
First time I've watched him play, but he was wild. Tackling anything that moved.
Deserved getting sent off.

Keane played well.
Fletcher was quite most of the match, and Scholes did well.

[S-D-P]

yes,liverpool did do well.I think the goal came very much against the run of play and it did change the game.Always felt confident we could see the game through that was until the sending off but i think we did deserve the win and liverpool lacked ideas.I hope moro does very well for the club as i respect him very much as a player.

[Highway Penguin]

I'm sure that everyone was a little confused, as we had two new players in our 11.
So once they start playing together more and gelling they will do very well. :)

Other than that, very fun game to watch. :)

[Jonny2J]

Once again the master showed the apprentice who was boss

[7RONALDO7]

Great result for us.

Scholes, although IMO played crap still was the best player on the pitch, with his quick thinking, turns and sharp passes!

[Redbloke]

We've all seeing in the past that the men from the marble halls don't take shock defeats to well. We knocked them out of the FA Cup last season and soon their aspiring treble dreams were dashed by Chelsea in Europe. We know all about the mind games which accompany United - Gunner showdowns and there'll be more hype than a boxing promoter pumping steroids the later this month progresses.
Infact, the Moaner Wenger has already threw his teddy out of the pram according to the Sky Sports website today.

Story at http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=250118&cpid=8&CLID=&lid=2&title=Wenger+finished+with+Fer gie&channel=Football_Home

We all know what United are capable of after Christmas. A few years ago I remember telling a friend at the match that United are the only team who can win every domestic game in the second half of the season. That year we clawed back a 12 point deficit and won the Premiership. This time round we're not the only team capable of such a feat. Cash injected Chelsea and the Wenger driven ego train boast the same qualities so playing catch up won't be easy. Still, United have been there before and Sir Alex knows better than anyone that the title is a long run in with many hurdles. My belief is that every team in the premiership has the potential to take points off any other team and a lot of points are still to be won and lost before the winning post is on us.

[Figо10]

United won due to Liverpool's decision to play Pelligrino and Morientes from the start. They were lacking match action and have not trained much with the Liverpool players, but were forced into the game at such an early stage of their transfer.

[Redbloke]

Incidently, Sir Alex's version of the "Pizzagate affair" as written by todays Sunday People can be read here:

http://www.people.co.uk/sport/tm_objectid=15080912%26method= full%26siteid=55768%26headline =sir%2dalex%2d%2dwenger%2dwant ed%2dpunch%2dup%2d-name_page.html

[Redbloke]

At first it looked to me like Gerrard had indeed hooked an elbow on Scholsey. Scholes went to the ground and I flew from my chair enraged. The instant replay shown that Gerrard did catch Scholes either in his chest or throat. I wouldn't say it was malicious, if anything Scholes went down a little easy. Both United and 'Pool fans don't need telling of the intencity on the pitch when the two giants meet either side of the M62. I can fully understand both players incentives and motives.
Keano was subjected to a slightly over zealous challenge by Riise in the opening seconds of the match. Minutes later Riise was clattered by Phil Neville. This goes on in derby matches and it's a very naive onlooker who doesn't come to expect it.

Rooney's incident with Ben Haim was off the ball and very foolish. Rooney is young outstanding talent in a mans game but he is prone to letting the child in him show itself from time to time. Hopefully, under the watchful eye of Sir Alex, Wayne will mature to be one of the most exciting forwards this country has produced for many years.

[Jonny2J]

United won due to Liverpool's decision to play Pelligrino and Morientes from the start. They were lacking match action and have not trained much with the Liverpool players, but were forced into the game at such an early stage of their transfer.no it wasnt, they both played quite well, it was due to the fact man utd had a new found resiliance to them tht was opitimzed by Heinze

[Highway Penguin]

I don't like Heinze.
He seems to be quite childish when he plays.

And a bit cocky.
I was about to ask if any of you felt the same way.
Like, he goes in really hard with players and is all over them, but then one person goes and him and he seems to go down so easily.
I've seen him play maybe a dozen times, and he seems to do it quite often.

What do you think?

[-=[101st]=-]

i havhe noticed that a little.. but.. i think he is a great defender.. and united buy of last year... sure rooney may turn out to be star, but at the moment.. Henize is better than him.. i feel he contributes more to the team than rooney ATM

[Highway Penguin]

Yes, he does do his job quite well.
I just found that too be a little odd.

Hm, but isn't Rooney your only striker at the moment.
As Smith, Ruud, and Solskjaer are all out.
So you do have Saha, but he isn't really that experienced yet.
I'd like to see Christian up front again.
With his dribbling skills it makes sense for him to be up there. Sorta.
Atleast in my mind. ;)

[-=[101st]=-]

well.. i dont support United.. but i think he is the only fit striker other than Saha, but.. i did like that formation that Ferguson played gainst Liverpool.. would be even better with giggs on the left, Ronaldo/Rooney on the right and RVN holding the ball up for others.. i think it would work well..

[Highway Penguin]

Ya, I think Giggs does wonderfully when he plays well.
Roy, Giggs, Scholes, and Fletcher/Ronaldo
Sounds like a very good midfield.
But they don't seem to be on form much. :rolleyes:

You don't support Man U?
Who do you support?

I wonder how Man will do when Ruud Smith and Solskjaer are all back.
They would definatley have one of the strongest striker powers in the world.
I bet that one or even two will be loaned/let go of.
What do you think?

[skullverine]

Christian up front again.
With his dribbling skills it makes sense for him to be up there. Sorta.
Atleast in my mind. ;)
who's Christian? a new player? :rolleyes:

[Highway Penguin]

The player un-worthy of his last name. :D
:rolleyes:

Did I spell it wrong?

What do you think about Heinze?
I know you're a Man U fan.

[skullverine]

i think he's the best left-back after Irwin.. he's really good at tackling.. the last minute goal-saving against 'pool was class!
The thing about Heinze is that he will give you 120% effort in area of the pitch. He certainly has all the right attributes to be a great Manchester United player.
i agree with the quote as well

[Highway Penguin]

Do you mean at Man U?
The best left back.

Hm, don't know if I agree with the quote. :rolleyes:

[-=[101st]=-]

You don't support Man U?
Who do you support?

Milan is my Number 1 team, but i have teams that i support in each league.. in the EPl it is Chelsea, because i am a huge fan of Mourinho.. in spain its Barca because they play very exciting football.. but i like seeing madrid playing well too..

[skullverine]

Do you mean at Man U?
The best left back.


yeah..

[S-D-P]

i like heinze and he has played consistently well all season.But there is one thing that worries me about him and that is his rashness,he dives in too much and this worries me,he also seems to be a bit erratic in his decision making.But what i do love about him is his energy,passion and workrate.

[Hunter]

i think heinze is one of the buys that we have succeeded in recently esspecially when it comes down to money. Rooney got amazing potential which is why he is £30m. Kleberson rip off.
djemba rip off.
Forlan saved us on a couple of occasions to be fair to the guy.

[S-D-P]

it looks like benfica could be signing kleberson soon

[Hunter]

thank god!

[Highway Penguin]

I take it that he is not a good player?
I've only seen him play a few times, and he seems like a good player.

I guess that there just isn't room for him then..?

[AgentZero]

i reckon kleberson is a good ball winner in the middle of the park, back in WC2002 he was good 4 brasil and united need to keep players like him at the club, he is also a versatile mid, he has the ability to play as a winger (both ends) and defensive mid. Just last season i saw him play against everton he and ronaldo worked very well together, Djemba should be off-loaded while bellion should go, his talents can be used at other teams coz right now he's lightyears down the pecking order

[skullverine]

again.. as far as i know, Heinze is the only South American player who managed to get regular first team action for United

[Papa Lazarou]

i think that the only reason for us selling Kleberson or DjembaX2 is to buy another defensive midfielder eg Hargreaves who we were linked with not too long ago. we missed out on Gravesen so we swtill need a Keano replacement

[Ronaldo_is_fat]

Fergie needs to retire soon because as he gets older and also his decision making. If you reflect on what he did last year you would probably understand what i meant. First he bought alot of youngsters and hoped that they'll be a replacement of players like Giggs, Scholes, Veron and Beckham. Half of them didn't succeed in doing so and Manutd still depend too much on their old players. Players like Fletcher and Miller were not classy enough to do anything. Also the signing of Ronaldinho which i wouldn't talk much about it because it's very chaotic by using cheap bets on him comparing to the Roony bet. He also missed good player like Robin as you can see he would defintely be a good replacement for Giggs by his peformance in Chelsea. If you compare to the money spend by Arsenal and Manutd you would defintely see Fergie had a brain of grass. End of the sentence Fergie defintely needs to retire.

[Figо10]

\If you compare to the money spend by Arsenal and Manutd you would defintely see Fergie had a brain of grass.
Does Fergie not have a say in the Manchester United signings??
I'm sure he started the negotiations for most of them.

[Lost seraphim]

I really hope Utd buys Downing as a Giggs replacement, they must not miss out on him

[Akineye]

As a replacement for Keane, somebody like Daniele De Rossi would be perfect.

I'd also love to see Vincente Kompany come, because he's an astounding young defender, plus he can play as a defensive midfielder as cover. He's been given a hard time at Anderlecht and now would be a perfect time to buy him.

Oh, and Downing is overrated.

[AgentZero]

i dont c y we shouldnt go n buy Edu from arse, or Parker from Chelski they're both out of favour/injured,but we know theyre quality mids

[Akineye]

I don't like the idea of buying rival's rejects.

We desperately need a quality central midfielder and more cover in defence too.

Buying Vincente Kompany would be ideal.

[AgentZero]

tru tru, my apologises.......united should go looking in the portuguese league again, i watched the benfica and sporting derby and i have to say the portuguese league is very very exciting at the moment and portugal is the european brazil......on footballing terms and not historical factors

[Hunter]

is it true that Eric Cantona might be taking over in a couple of years..he said that he would love to but he needs to get to know some of the players and youngsars as he has been away for a while..
i hope this happens as i think that Fegie has almost had it. not saying he is shit or anything like that but i think its about time he moved on in my opinion..

[bbjaylive]

is it true that Eric Cantona might be taking over in a couple of years..he said that he would love to but he needs to get to know some of the players and youngsars as he has been away for a while..
i hope this happens as i think that Fegie has almost had it. not saying he is shit or anything like that but i think its about time he moved on in my opinion..
Does Cantona have any coach badges? If not them there would be no point. Only the best should manage United. I hope Martin O'Neil is the successor.

[skullverine]

no way! he doesnt has the experience as a manager! perhaps, he should be the asst. manager

[Hunter]

Does Cantona have any coach badges? If not them there would be no point. Only the best should manage United. I hope Martin O'Neil is the successor.

he might do i shall phone him later ;)
i wouldnt mind O'Neil to be honest he seems to have everything under control but im sure there will be a better manager that will come along.

[Phatmann]

I wouldn't want O'Neill at Man U, because he hasn't really proved himself with any big clubs yet. I would like to see an Italian manager at Man U, e.g. Capello.

Changing topic, I've just read on skysports.com, that Chris Eagles has gone on loan to Watford for three months. I think it will be good for him but I doubt he has the ability to hold down a first team place, especially with Cristiano still around. Anyone know whether Spector is going to go on loan to Blackburn or if he already has?

[woodsy]

it will be interesting to c who the next manager will be , i cant c ferguson leaving soon tho !

[Stella Artois]

I would agree with you Woodsy ! He always postpones his retirement !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hunter]

I would agree with you Woodsy ! He always postpones his retirement !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

he was suppossed to retire around 4 or 5 years ago wasnt he ??

[skullverine]

I would agree with you Woodsy ! He always postpones his retirement !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!
i think he wont pospone(ing) his retirement after he's dead :D

[skullverine]

.

Like I was saying before, Capello would be perfect for us. He's managed 3 of the best teams in Europe and was successful every where he went. Not only this but, he wasn't defensive when he was at Real Madrid. They played some very good attacking football back then. It was his spells at AC Milan and Roma where his teams were defensive. And I'm not gonna back against him for success at Juve either.

if Capello becomes our manager, i hope he'll start to play attacking minded because (i think) Italians manager are usually defensive minded

[AgentZero]

thats very stereotypical isnt it???.....i beleive ancelotti plays quite offensive at times its the other milan manager (4got hisn name) whomis renowned 4 his defesince tactics......Cappello hes the only i see suitable 2 replace such a successful manager in SAF and probably Del Bosque.....but i think Queiroz is fergies successor

[Figо10]

Del Bosque is a good choice for United, but Queiroz is probably FErgie's best seond manager in his career. Without them he has faltered badly, like last season, but now that he's came back, his tactics and training are suitable for United and with his help, United are surely stronger than they were when he went to Real.

[AgentZero]

q figo10 r u a "red Galactico" like me coz i seem 2 find ye in reals thread n uniteds, if so keep it up :) :)

[Hunter]

when do you'se think Fergie will actually retire then ???

[Estill]

Martin O'Neill.

I would think of him as a good replacement for a specific reason, apart from the fact he is a great manager.

He is like Fergie in the way he manages, very fiery and emotional and I think if we went to someone cool calm and collected, like Capello, it may be too much of a change.

All in all I think Martin O'Neill is the way to go, being British is a plus as well.

[S-D-P]

another comprehensive victory,glad to see saha scoring,hopefully this will give hm the confidence he needs and another couple against chelsea will do nicely.Forlan wants to return to united to proove himself :eek: .

[AgentZero]

isnt he intalks w/ PSG 4 a loan deal, lets hope not

[JimmyHill11]

It seems the United hierachy are grooming Queiroz. He is definately a brilliant coach. Look at how the defence has played over the the last couple of months and the way the team has been employing all sorts of attacking options. But there are ample cases where good coaches have failed as managers... Brian Kidd for instance.

What really sets SAF apart as a manager is his ability to motivate players and keep the hunger there season after season. Just look at some of the performance of the senior players this season not to mention the new faces like Smith and Rooney. When Alex came to United he hadn't been managing big players at a big club. He had taken Aberdeen beyond their wildest ambitions at that time. The new manager should be someone with similar qualities, not neccasarily someone with trophies from big clubs.

Martin O'Neill could be the right man. I am hugely impressed by David Moyes. Please note any Everton and Celtic fans who might be reading, I am not saying that they are not big clubs, just commenting how much I like the way the managers go about their business, motiviating their players and seeming to have unbelievable hunger and commitment.

On another note, I am very glad that Fletcher had got into the team on a regular basis in the last couple of months. He seems to be getting better and better and he, Keane and Scholes are a qualilty combination in midfield.

Forlan wants back to prove himself !?!? I don't think theres much chance he'll be able to prove himself worthy of a place in front of RVN, Saha, Rooney and Smith ! Not to mention Solskjaer when he (let us all hope) returns to fitness. Forlan has a wee place in all our hearts becuase he is the man who exposed Dudek as the best United keeper since Schmeical but he just never came remotley close to cutting it as a United player !

[AgentZero]

read this, i think fergie is gonna b in a bit of trouble if true:
Fergie in 'tap' row
Alex Ferguson has been accused of tapping up French starlet Jeremy Menez by offering his parents financial incentives. Sochaux president Jean-Claude Plessis said of the Manchester United boss: “Ferguson even went to Jeremy’s parents’ home in the Paris suburbs and made them financial offers. Arsenal and Manchester United both wanted to take him away. But his parents are sensible people and they put their son’s career first.” United last night strongly denied they had done anything illegal. Communications director Phil Townsend insisted: “There is absolutely no question of us having tapped him up.”
Ben Kinsella, The Sun

[skullverine]

never heard of that player but why does SAF always makes in the headline? like two weeks ago he commented about wenger now this :(

[AgentZero]

me neither, but i the thing about wenger was provoked, wenger accusing united of being cheats n all

[JimmyHill11]

never heard of that player but why does SAF always makes in the headline? like two weeks ago he commented about wenger now this :(

the lad is considered the dogs in France and he scored a hatrick at the weekend. I think he's only 17.

SAF has a bit of history with tapping up plsyers but most people in football don't consider it that heinous a crime. It's very widespread and just last week David O Leary and Villa just got their wrists slapped and a 5K fine from the FA for tapping up someone. Wenger got fined more for calling RVN a cheat

[Singh]

Sochaux's starlet Jeremy Menez explained his decision to snub Manchester United, after scoring his first hat-trick for the senior side at the weekend.

When I knew Sir Alex Ferguson was interested in me it was a great shock," said Menez. "It was something great.

"I have visited the facilities and I was in the stands for the match against Everton.

"But finally I chose to stay with Sochaux's academy because they had shown such faith in me."

"I didn't want to leave as a thief - that's all."

[Giggsy11]

erm thats what everyone said when man utd lost like 7games in the 01-02 season then they won the league the year after, everyone said arsenal where the best and now there doing shit everyone says chelsea are looking un-beatable but they will be beaten, loosing in the shitty carling cup to a team higher up in the league even tho it was an even game does not mean its the ened for anything.

[Gary G]

erm thats what everyone said when man utd lost like 7games in the 01-02 season then they won the league the year after, everyone said arsenal where the best and now there doing shit everyone says chelsea are looking un-beatable but they will be beaten, loosing in the shitty carling cup to a team higher up in the league even tho it was an even game does not mean its the ened for anything.

I bet you wouldn't be calling the Carling Cup "Shitty" if you had won tonight, it was your best chance of silverware.

Arsenal are doing shit? there are a point ahead of you lot, what does that say about your season if you are a point behind a team doing shit?

[skullverine]

they start to play shit when utd beaten them in september.. before their defeat, most of their game that they have won was like 4-0,3-0 etc

i didnt watch the match but who played in goal?

[gollan]

Well. The first time in my life when I supported Man U, and they played fuckin good, they had to lose because of the dimnit howard. What a waste of space between the bars. Giggs goal was super. It's a shame as in some point during the match I saw Chelsea's solid iron defense looked quite shaky. Cech denied you guys of a deserved victory, or at least OT.
A shame all in all.

[skullverine]

dammit! why the hell fergie prefer to use howard in such an important game? howard has been out-of-form since the blunder he made during last season 2nd round of CL

[JimmyHill11]

loosing in the shitty carling cup to a team higher up in the league even tho it was an even game does not mean its the ened for anything.

spot on. we shouln't blow it up out of proportion. a couple of seasons ago we lost the league cup final to liverpool and still won the championship that year. its about 12 years since the club last saw the league cup as anything other than a oppurtunity to blood youngsters

A much more significant problem for us is the gap in the prem table and that is down to our early season form and the fact that we were playing people like djemba-djemba, Kleberson, O'Shea in midfield etc that just didn't deliver. People are definatley too short sighted. After Arsenals double season in 1998 they went three years without a trophy but that club stuck by their manager becuase they knew that replacing the famous Arsenal backline was a long term thing and mistakes were definatley made along the way, such as Stepanovs.

United are in a simlilar situation now. Do people really think that rebuilding and replacing one of the most effective midfields ever can just happen overnight? This could take a couple more years and peoples memories are way too short of they think two seasons without a league title is worth getting rid of the coaching/managing team for.

[Tozz]

I was wondering that howard on the goal too.. Carrol has been quite clear choice on goal.. that was a bad mistake by Howard.. like Mark Lawrenson said "when the situation are 50-50 goalie have to decide that is he going to punch the ball away or try to catch it and Howard did the worst mistake he didn't do anything.."

[Giggsy11]

I bet you wouldn't be calling the Carling Cup "Shitty" if you had won tonight, it was your best chance of silverware.

Arsenal are doing shit? there are a point ahead of you lot, what does that say about your season if you are a point behind a team doing shit?

well ou know what i meant everyone said arsenal would go un-beaten and never loose etc etc there playign bad and the carling cup is shitty even if man utd won the cup itself its still a crap cup.

[Figо10]

a couple of seasons ago we lost the league cup final to liverpool and still won the championship that year.
At least United's departure from the Cup would prevent a repeat of that, for a consolation... :(

[skullverine]

but if united continues its good form.. i hope utd will win the cl

[JimmyHill11]

Theres a reason why defeats like that happen. Its a sign. It shows that something needs to be changed.

I'm more concerned right now about Fergie losing his unbeaten record in domestic semi-finals and where our next trophy is coming from.

we're still in the Cl and Milan look beatable at the moment

[uA - 1905]

we're still in the Cl and Milan look beatable at the moment
I doubt that.

[Hunter]

i think we will get past Milan to be honest as we are on form
we didnt deserve to lose that Cup match...

[Tenacious D]

I bet you wouldn't be calling the Carling Cup "Shitty" if you had won tonight, it was your best chance of silverware.

Arsenal are doing shit? there are a point ahead of you lot, what does that say about your season if you are a point behind a team doing shit?
I can't agree with that more speacially the first paragrah if Man U won you would never here chelsea saying that's a SHIT cup to win.

If you didn't want to win it why did you put out the strongest team you could? :rolleyes: sometimes UNTIED fans have go too think before tehy speak.

[pier69]

i saw that match , man u vs chelsea . man u is shit in the first half ,the only one who is attacking is ronaldo and saha looks good too and chelsea outshone them . but at the last 20 minutes ? 30 minutes ?when rooney comes on , man u is great , they are playing good football . i think rooney is like a good inspiration for the team

[Darth Daft]

I get your point.

I don't get why there are some united fans who are badmouthing the Carling Cup as 'shitty' when we did play mostly our 1st team with the exceptions of Howard and Fortune (who don't normally play in Premier league matches). Realistically, the Carling Cup and the FA Cup looked like the most likeliest competitions we would win this year especially seeing as Chelsea are 11 points ahead of us in the Premier league and the fact that we've got AC Milan in the last 16 of the Champions League.

The fact is, we would have liked to have got to the final and of course, win. It might at the end of the season, have ended up being a consolation prize for us or something like last year with the FA Cup.

Anyway, if Chelsea decide to play the same team as last night in the final then, they will win the Carling Cup. Even though Liverpool have a great record in that competition. Just to verify, how many finals have Liverpool actually lost? I seriously can't remember them losing any League Cup final.


this just doesnt make sense, so let me get this straight, the carling cup is not shit, purely because Man United put out a strong side.

So, following that, if Man United put out a bunch of reserves against Milan, the Champions League would become shitty? no, of course not.

the carling cup, is and always will be shit until the reward for winning it is changed. geting into the uefa cup when your almost certainly going to qualify for the CL anyway makes it a bit shit in my opinion. Yes there's been some fantastic games including last nights, and oh how i would have liked to have seen us going to the final, but, at the end of the day

ITS STILL ONLY THE CARLING CUP. BOO.....HOO..... the only reason i was remotely annoyed when Liverpool beat us in the final was because it was them and nothing else.

Stoneman, you say you cant see where Uniteds next trophy is coming from, like you think its our right to get trophies and if we dont get loads EVERY season then its a big catastrophe and we should get rid of the manager or half the side. This would be the thinking of a United fan born into the glory of the 90's.

You seem to forget that we are still in the FA cup (just after exeter) and also the Champions League. "ooh but we'll never beat Milan, theyre well good" - im sorry, but please fuck off and support another club if you dont have the belief that United can overcome Milan. If they beat us heavily (i think not), so be it, but i think if you were in charge of Man United you'd probably concede the match already. :rolleyes:

[Figо10]

The Arsenal match winner could decide who is going out of the race. Now that Arsenal are leading United by a point, and behind by 11 points.

A draw wouldn't be favourable for either side I would imagine, unless Chelsea draw or lose.

[AgentZero]

im very confident that we'll beat the arse on teus, comparing the two teams we're more consistent lately, our defence is at its strongest (3 goals in 11) and players like Cristiano, saha and rooney are gettin back on fine form, it will be tough but they say playing at highbury isn't as intimidating as versing United at the Theatre Of Dreams.....whats your view and first team predictions????

[Phatmann]

West Bromwich Albion have secured the services of Manchester United's Kieran Richardson on loan until the end of the season.
The winger has found first-team opportunities hard to come by at Old Trafford this term and will relish the prospect of regular football.
The 20-year-old has made just two substitute appearances for The Red Devils this season, but is likely to play a key role for Bryan Robson.
West Brom are currently bottom of The Premiership and will need an impressive second half of the season if they are to avoid the drop.
Richardson is keen to add to his game while at The Hawthorns after saying: "I'm definitely happy to go out on loan and get some experience.
"I also want to show what I can do because I believe I have a lot to offer West Brom."
This is from skysports.com
I think this is a great move for Richardson, and hopefully he can improve by getting a lot more first team action.

I really hope we beat Arsenal, but It's going to be very close. Anyone know whether Smith will be back? and is Toure banned? If he is I hope Cygan comes in to take his place :D .

[Papa Lazarou]

i think the loans of richardson and eagles are a great idea because it will give them first team experince and i beleive that they will prove themselves to be Man U quality especially Richardson

[skullverine]

I really hope we beat Arsenal, but It's going to be very close. Anyone know whether Smith will be back? and is Toure banned? If he is I hope Cygan comes in to take his place :D .
dont know when Smith will be back.. hopefully either Toure or Campbell will be injured before the game so that Cygan will play.. also i hope Lehmann will play! :D

[AgentZero]

nah let Almunia play we know how good he is at crosses and corners:rolleyes:.....he in CM must have 20 as tendency to punch...something about the way United came into this fixture is giving me the confidence that'll we'll win.......
Carrol should b a def starter 4 this game

[Guillermo]

Good news to hear Djemba-Djemba's gone to Villa. In the summer, United should target Maniche and certainly a new keeper.

[Papa Lazarou]

OK so Djemba Djemba is gone but i think Kleberson should stay at least. He was always the better player in my opinion.

I want to wish Djemba Djemba all the best. hell probably be really good at Villa and a starter. Just not Man U class

[AgentZero]

did anyone see Mancini's goal it was sublime, hopefully SAF targets him in the summer but does he not play on the right-side only and not a central minded player

[skullverine]

did anyone see Mancini's goal it was sublime, hopefully SAF targets him in the summer but does he not play on the right-side only and not a central minded player
but i've seen him played at right-side a few times this season..

[tezzer]

i think its amazing cause he is the best left winger in the country :D

[Guillermo]

4-2 against the Arsenal, at Highbury! Am I on drugs?

[Giggsy11]

with ten men? arsenal are pish, when would man u play so shit at home?!!!

c'mon united!!!!!!!

[Flashy]

And the game goes to United!

Weeeeeeeeeeee!

[Lami]

Oh yea baby! what a sweetheart finish by O'Shea! What a game!

[Tozz]

Thank you SAF thank you Team.. I'm speechless

[Giggsy11]

i could just take ronaldo now.....but i won't :p

[-=[101st]=-]

yea... great game (not syaing that coz i had $10 on United @ $3.20 :D) me so happy right now.. i am going invest that winnning in another 'sin' Beer

Giggs had a stormer.. as Did henize (well the last 80 anyway) Ronaldo played well, good to see he has found his finishing boots finally...

Rooney is a luck lucky man... very lucky.. i mean football players seem to get a away with a damn lot when it comes to the ref.. in Rugby Union Rooney would have been sent off straight away for telling the ref to "Fuck Off!" even on his first offence if it happened in the first 30 seconds

In saying that i feel that Silverstre can feel hard done by (in some senses) i mean Berkamp took a swipe at him with a pretty savage backhand.. and it wasnt the first time it happened.. but.. still he should not have headed butted.. he deserved red for that.. but it was provoked..

good game... prolly the best i have watched all season...

[kallum]

Agh...I just knew Man Utd would pull it back...they always do, I have to say they have the best 'mentality' in the premiership, sad that Arsenal couldn't carry on from their 1st half performance. However we can have no excuses...Man Utd played very well, even with 10 men.

[mutu]

mutu did

good stuff guys - but you're still out of the title race unfortunately

[sheringham316]

Amazing match!!
I thought arsenal were going to win from the 1st half lead but it wasn't to be. Hopefully we can beat Chelsea, though can't see us winning the premiership this season. Love for somone to proove me wrong!!

[Stella Artois]

Amazing isn't it? Suddenly all the prawnies are back in force.

[mehul_98]

funny how fergie even sed "judge us in january"
fair enough its february but the mans got skills and determination and heinze was doin the business brilliant buy!:D

[woodsy]

it was a great match , i thought rooney would have been sent off tho !

[Stella Artois]

And I hope you get sent off for having an awful signature that's far too large (and gay looking).

[Giggsy11]

anyone see match of the day and roy keane in the tunnel? apparently viera was giving neville shit so keane said 'come and have a go at me then' - and rooney's remark at pires about his old beard - good stuff. And i have to say that O'Shea is fooking amazing - what a finish, giggs setting up 2 and producing one of the best balls of the season for a rooney chance - wonderfull stuff!

btw...when your not looking liek your gonna wint he league then you beat arsenal like that - its as good as winning it ;)

[woodsy]

And I hope you get sent off for having an awful signature that's far too large (and gay looking).
y do u always look to cause arguments ? ? ? :confused:

[Stella Artois]

Because I am a badass.

And plus I don't like illiterate morons.

[woodsy]

Because I am a badass.

And plus I don't like illiterate morons.

oh well good for u ,but i dnt have time for ur shite or to reply to ur shite either

[Giggsy11]

Because I am a badass.

And plus I don't like illiterate morons.

Yes - oh btw, you don't start sentences with 'And' - Its Illiterate.

[woodsy]

Yes - oh btw, you don't start sentences with 'And' - Its Illiterate.
lol, nice 1 m8

[Stella Artois]

Yes - oh btw, you don't start sentences with 'And' - Its Illiterate.

Many people use it. But, hey ho.

And to be perfectly honest, at least I type in such a way that it doesn't need people to have to re-read it in order to understand it.

:)

[Giggsy11]

you had to re-read it? you must be thick lol

[woodsy]

you had to re-read it? you must me thick lol

:) :) :)

i agree with u there

[Gary G]

you had to re-read it? you must me thick lol

You must me thick?

Your sig is a bit gay-looking Phillip, I know you love ManYoo but that's taking it a bit too far.

[AgentZero]

Amazing isn't it? Suddenly all the prawnies are back in force.
HAHHAHA you're just obviously dissappointed in your teams lost, you think your so much better than everyone dont you

[AgentZero]

what did i tell everyone, i was superconfident that'll we'll win it......and for all you haters out there RONALDO 2 GOALS (1.5 the tap in) but his first one was a brilliant finnish

[pier69]

very good play from man u , the only thing i hate about the game is rooney , i think there's something wrong with his mind

[zer0_faith]

btw...when your not looking liek your gonna wint he league then you beat arsenal like that - its as good as winning it ;)

I was thinking just that, beating arsenal in a match like that feels like winning the league

[Stella Artois]

HAHHAHA you're just obviously dissappointed in your teams lost, you think your so much better than everyone dont you

When the hell did I say I was better than anyone else? I have never thought that about myself, so keep your stupid comments to yourself.

And yes, as soon as United manage to beat us suddenly the forum is filled with United fans, amazing isn't it?

[Akineye]

And yes, as soon as United manage to beat us suddenly the forum is filled with United fans, amazing isn't it?

I guess its similar to how London became swarming with Chelsea shirts within the last two years.

As for the match, we fully deserved the victory. Keane showed that he is a different class to Vieira.

[Giggsy11]

Suddenly its filled with Utd fans? Which forum have u been reading?
every week utd fans make comments into his thread about the matches, And just because people are happy that man u beat arsenal doesn't always mean there are necessarily man u fans, its just means they are glad arsenal lost.

[Mambo]

Yes, I too find it hard to believe that this thread is swarming with Man Utd fans. Absolutely shocking, ESPECIALLY being that it is "The Official Manchester United Thread". I think all those Stellas are clouding your mind, making you aggressive. Thats what chav drinks do to you I suppose though. Nevermind.

I have to say that was the best game I've seen all season, and United's best show (With the Boro one close second) in a while. The way they reacted to being a man down was awesome. John O'shea, is proving me wrong and I think he will make a fine centre midfielder. Two classy finishes in two games. The chip was sublime, especially seeing as it was his left foot. He brings a new meaning to ambidextrous.

Vieira had a stunning dive from the Rooney 'foul.' Really I think they are a bunch of hypocrites, calling Van Nistelrooy and United cheats. Bergcamp was lucky not to get a card in the Silvestre incident too. You could really see the Arsenal frustrations boiling over.

[t1000v2.0]

Don't forget Ashley Cole's dive in the first half, it was a carbon copy of Diouf the other week. And they accuse United of being cheats and divers!! Wenger can shut the hell up now!

[Akineye]

As Andy Gray said, this defeat will arguably do more damage to Arsenal than the one at OT earlier.

Then, the game was very equally matched and we were fortunate with decisions, this time, we played them off the park.

I guess you could say this was a defining moment in Vieira's career, because no longer can he consider Keane his equal as a captain, a player, or a man.

Bring on Meelan.

[Figо10]

Nice win for the Devils.

They probably didn't want to lose another record, the unbeaten home record which United holds at 33 and if Arsenal didn't lose they would have got 30 and going.

Arsenal 2 - 4 United... What a scoreline, who would have predicted this???

[JimmyHill11]

I guess you could say this was a defining moment in Vieira's career, because no longer can he consider Keane his equal as a captain, a player, or a man.

Bring on Meelan.

Keane, who has had his knee reconstructed and been told that his dodgy hip may make him an invalid in later years is summoning some awsome performances this season. Even with diminshed athletiscm he is still the master. He has been an inspiration to the team - but howm much longer has he got in him ? Where can United find another player like that?

The performance and result last night sent out a clear message about what sort of state Manchester United are in. Chelsea will propably be be crowned as champions this season, and deservedly so becuase their quality and consistency has been amazing. However , United look in good fettle and Chelsea will not be having all their own way if they think Romans wallet will make them the dominant force from now on.

Hopefully we will have no more talk from the (glory hunting brigade ?) United fans of little faith who are talking about it being time for Ferguson to step down. This is preposterous. Chelsea have unlimited funds and a brilliant manager - if there is one guy in British football who can rise to that challenge it is SAF

On current form I am pretty confident about the CL fixture against Milan. They have been losing in the league lately and finding goals hard to come by. Rooney vs Stam should be fun

[uA - 1905]

If we actually don't count the goals that were caused by the goalie's mistake, the score would be 1-0 to Man Utd.

I'm sure Arsenal and Man Utd are proud to have Wigan and Albacete players keeping their goals.

[Akineye]

If we actually don't count the goals that were caused by the goalie's mistake, the score would be 1-0 to Man Utd.

What?

The only goal Almunia was at fault for was Ronaldo's.

If you were being picky, perhaps you could blame Carrol for being megged, but that shit happens to every keeper. It would be harsh to blame him for that, especially considering he had a pretty sound game.

[Singh]

This site is very quiet at the moment and people ignore some of the sore losers they cant blame anyone for this defeat apart from themselves the best team won and thats that. Ronaldo played brilliant-HUSH! to all the anti-ronaldo gang, forms temporary class is permanent.The double on arsenal is sweet but winning the title would be better.And keano the legend proves his quality on the pitch and off it.

Don't forget Ashley Cole's dive in the first half, it was a carbon copy of Diouf the other week. And they accuse United of being cheats and divers!! Wenger can shut the hell up now!

yep, and vieria's dive but you dont see that being made a big deal.dive was really bad.

[Scarface]

This site is very quiet at the moment and people ignore some of the sore losers they cant blame anyone for this defeat apart from themselves the best team won and thats that. Ronaldo played brilliant-HUSH! to all the anti-ronaldo gang, forms temporary class is permanent.The double on arsenal is sweet but winning the title would be better.And keano the legend proves his quality on the pitch and off it.



yep, and vieria's dive but you dont see that being made a big deal.dive was really bad.

Who is complaining about the defeat? I don't see any sore losers around here. This time round, you were the better team on the night, and deserved to win the game.
Ashley Cole and Vieira were wrong for diving, but they didn't receive any match-winning penalties, so obviously there isn't going to be as much hysteria surrounding it.
It's laughable to claim Keane is a legend off the pitch. Why is that? Because he comes out in the press pretending his looking for a fight? That would say more about the mindset of some Man U fans than anything else though :rolleyes:

[Dan]

"It's laughable to claim Keane is a legend off the pitch. Why is that? Because he comes out in the press pretending his looking for a fight?" truest words ive heard all day, i wish viera socked him one

[Giggsy11]

"It's laughable to claim Keane is a legend off the pitch. Why is that? Because he comes out in the press pretending his looking for a fight?" truest words ive heard all day, i wish viera socked him one

He wasn't looking for a fight, he was standing up for his team mates and being a captain, something which Viera wasn't doing by having a go at neville in the first place, Viera hitting Keane? I don't think i have seen Viera more scared in that tunnel.

[Dan]

fair point, my brother said when they were shaking hand ect viera was sweating like a fat lass in a chip shop,woud of been nice to see a scuffle though

[Singh]

Who is complaining about the defeat? I don't see any sore losers around here. This time round, you were the better team on the night, and deserved to win the game.
Ashley Cole and Vieira were wrong for diving, but they didn't receive any match-winning penalties, so obviously there isn't going to be as much hysteria surrounding it.
It's laughable to claim Keane is a legend off the pitch. Why is that? Because he comes out in the press pretending his looking for a fight? That would say more about the mindset of some Man U fans than anything else though :rolleyes:

Say what you want mate fact is 4-2 to manchester united if you read my post it stats SOME arsenal fans being sore losers, "hes a legend off the pitch" its ok for arsenal players to go round threatning other players but when someone stands up to them they get scared.There are some sore losers that are posting in the official manchester united thread saying man utd fans suddenly appearing etc etc so get you facts right before you reply to me.

[kallum]

Don't forget Ashley Cole's dive in the first half, it was a carbon copy of Diouf the other week. And they accuse United of being cheats and divers!! Wenger can shut the hell up now!

Well know you know how it feels don't you...Rooney did exactly the same at Old Trafford...exept he got a Penalty! Which is even worse.

[Singh]

"It's laughable to claim Keane is a legend off the pitch. Why is that? Because he comes out in the press pretending his looking for a fight?" truest words ive heard all day, i wish viera socked him one

Its called trying to intimidate your opposition vieria tried it but didnt really work, also vierias like 6'4 why he starting on g.neville so keane the captain had to do something.How many people do you know who would confront vieria?

Well know you know how it feels don't you...Rooney did exactly the same at Old Trafford...exept he got a Penalty! Which is even worse.

Fair enough,some would argue arsenal should of had a penalty pires incident.But remember vs chelsea man utd were not given 2 pens fouls on fortune,saha so it equalls itself out.

[Dan]

me im just as tall :)

[kallum]

Before any of you guys call me a sore loser...I posted yesterday which in a nut-shell said Man Utd were the better team. We got complacent in the 2nd half.

[Giggsy11]

i want that match on dvd! :D

[Singh]

Yea get me i got it on tape, but on dvd would be sweeter.4 goals vs arsenal amazing

[kallum]

i want that match on dvd! :D

lol, talk about rubbin' it in! lol..no offense meant by that by the way. :)

[Giggsy11]

i want to kiss O'Shea everywhere, he has really impressed me recently!

[Scarface]

Say what you want mate fact is 4-2 to manchester united if you read my post it stats SOME arsenal fans being sore losers, "hes a legend off the pitch" its ok for arsenal players to go round threatning other players but when someone stands up to them they get scared.There are some sore losers that are posting in the official manchester united thread saying man utd fans suddenly appearing etc etc so get you facts right before you reply to me.

The fact is I know what the score was, I haven't been in a coma the past day.
You stating 'SOME' Arsenal fans makes no difference, I can't see any Arsenal fans being sore losers. For my money, it looks like we have all admitted we weren't good enough to win. I don't see how that equates to some of us being sore losers?
It's not ok for Arsenal players to go around threatening Man U players, that is why they recieved suspensions for their 'altercation' with van Nistelrooy. I can't remember many Man U fans being very happy about that, but now when the boot is on the other foot, and Keane is issuing warnings, threats, scaring Vieira or whatever you like to call it, he is a legend. Sounds a bit hypocritical to me.

[Singh]

Thats just going over the top, giggs played well yesterday aswell, come on Blackburn!

[Darth Daft]

fair point, my brother said when they were shaking hand ect viera was sweating like a fat lass in a chip shop,woud of been nice to see a scuffle though

This was the limit of Vieira's combative abilities last night

http://gallery.euphorics.net/uploads/united/88798730giggis.jpg

[Giggsy11]

lmfao!!!!!!!!!!!!! giggsy!!!! thats a class image, i'm keeping that i need it framed! :D

[kallum]

Even, i laughed...:cool:...funny pic.

[Singh]

The fact is I know what the score was, I haven't been in a coma the past day.
You stating 'SOME' Arsenal fans makes no difference, I can't see any Arsenal fans being sore losers. For my money, it looks like we have all admitted we weren't good enough to win. I don't see how that equates to some of us being sore losers?
It's not ok for Arsenal players to go around threatening Man U players, that is why they recieved suspensions for their 'altercation' with van Nistelrooy. I can't remember many Man U fans being very happy about that, but now when the boot is on the other foot, and Keane is issuing warnings, threats, scaring Vieira or whatever you like to call it, he is a legend. Sounds a bit hypocritical to me.


And yes, as soon as United manage to beat us suddenly the forum is filled with United fans, amazing isn't it?

sore loser? but the fact that there are man utd fans posting in here regulary. :rolleyes:

Ok the majority have admitted they got beaten by the better team,keane didnt start on vieria first it was vieria who started on Neville so look at the difference in height/strenght keane had to step in it was unfair of vieria.Keane had to say something back.Im not being Hypocritical, cause the arsenal fans that i know were going yea yea, we scared ruud look at us pushing him etc and they were acting like keown, etc were topmans.

[Stella Artois]

I am not a sore loser. I just don't like losing, anything wrong with that?

[Singh]

I am not a sore loser. I just don't like losing, anything wrong with that?

Nope.

[Darth Daft]

lmfao!!!!!!!!!!!!! giggsy!!!! thats a class image, i'm keeping that i need it framed! :D

somehow, I knew you'd like that, heres another

http://gallery.euphorics.net/uploads/united/7263579252120325.jpg

[Stella Artois]

That image was about as funny as the statement that, "United fans are true supporters".

[Papa Lazarou]

What an amazing match!!

Heinze is officially the greatest Argentinian player ever! LOL what a signing he is!!

and O'Shea is turning into a bloody good midfielder!

LOOK OUT CHELSEA!!

[Darth Daft]

That image was about as funny as the statement that, "United fans are true supporters".


i disagree, i find that picture of a zombified Henry rather funny, your hastily cobbled together statement, i find a bit irrelavent.

[Stella Artois]

I would tend to agree, Darth Daft.

<remembers not to rush his post because dinner is on the table>

[-=[101st]=-]

this game was unreal.. i am not really a Man Utd supporter. actaully i dont really support anyone in the EPL but this is probably the best game of football i have ever seen... it had everything.. lots of goals.. a great pace.. physical nature.. and gret photos.. some people can really construct a photo the 2 posted above arsenal supporter or not.. you have to say they really are great photos.. they almost sum the game up entirely..

[skullverine]

when I looked at both team jersey.. there's something next to Nike.. what is it?

[Darth Daft]

that tunnel incident (http://www.simnet.is/de/Keane-Viera-rifrildi.mpg)


Keano fookin loses it! an interesting insight into how the ref deals with that sort of trouble. I want to know what Vieira said to the Neviller to get Roy so riled up like that.

[thierrysmith]

GARY NEVILLE, is a wanka is a wanka, GARY NEVILLE is a wanka is a wanka

[AgentZero]

When the hell did I say I was better than anyone else? I have never thought that about myself, so keep your stupid comments to yourself.

And yes, as soon as United manage to beat us suddenly the forum is filled with United fans, amazing isn't it?
hahahaha "as soon as we manage to beat the arse" we beaten you on the 5 past occassion, and for the record most of the people who posted after the win have posted before its just scousers like you who hasn't.

[Phatmann]

when I looked at both team jersey.. there's something next to Nike.. what is it?
It's STAND UP SPEAK UP. I think it's a campaign by Nike, against racism.
EDIT:just found this bit of news:
Rio capped again
Rio Ferdinand is getting stick from his Man Utd mates — for wearing a SHOWER CAP. The defender dons the granny-style headgear to keep his dreadlocks dry. The defender has become a laughing stock with his Old Trafford pals for refusing to let his barnet get wet in case it goes all frizzy and messed up.
Gordon Smart, The Sun
from www.manutd.com

[razor]

that tunnel incident (http://www.simnet.is/de/Keane-Viera-rifrildi.mpg)

Keano fookin loses it! an interesting insight into how the ref deals with that sort of trouble. I want to know what Vieira said to the Neviller to get Roy so riled up like that.


Patrick Vieira taunted Gary Neville as he branded him a hacker in the Highbury tunnel. Arsenal’s captain targeted the Manchester United star following the warm-up before Tuesday night’s stormy showdown. It was the clash which eventually led to war between Vieira and Roy Keane. Vieira said: “Let’s see if you are going to kick everyone at Highbury tonight like you did at Old Trafford.” There was another tunnel confrontation featuring Vieira and Neville just before kick-off. That is when Keane reacted.
Neil Custis, The Sun

Don't shoot your f*****g mouth off
Patrick Vieira almost caused a tunnel punch-up when he stuck his forehead right in Gary Neville’s face. And the confrontation so angered Roy Keane that Manchester United's captain warned the Frenchman: "Don't shoot your f*****g mouth off." Arsenal’s skipper had already chased Neville down the Highbury tunnel after the pre-match warm-up to have a go at him. Then, as both teams emerged from their dressing rooms, Vieira went straight up to the Manchester United full-back, stared at him and put his forehead within inches of his rival’s. Vieira said to Neville: “Are you going to kick us again?” The incident ignited an already angry Roy Keane, who had heard about his team-mate being intimidated earlier. United’s captain went straight for the Frenchman and rapped: “Pick on someone your own size. Are you going to have a go at me then?”

[AgentZero]

Roy Keane has the true spirit of Stand Up Speak Up

[pier69]

i think roy keane got that anger from cantona , when cantona arrives in man utd , roy keane is not that rough

[Figо10]

Patrick Vieira taunted Gary Neville as he branded him a hacker in the Highbury tunnel. Arsenal’s captain targeted the Manchester United star following the warm-up before Tuesday night’s stormy showdown. It was the clash which eventually led to war between Vieira and Roy Keane. Vieira said: “Let’s see if you are going to kick everyone at Highbury tonight like you did at Old Trafford.” There was another tunnel confrontation featuring Vieira and Neville just before kick-off. That is when Keane reacted.
Neil Custis, The Sun

Don't shoot your f*****g mouth off
Patrick Vieira almost caused a tunnel punch-up when he stuck his forehead right in Gary Neville’s face. And the confrontation so angered Roy Keane that Manchester United's captain warned the Frenchman: "Don't shoot your f*****g mouth off." Arsenal’s skipper had already chased Neville down the Highbury tunnel after the pre-match warm-up to have a go at him. Then, as both teams emerged from their dressing rooms, Vieira went straight up to the Manchester United full-back, stared at him and put his forehead within inches of his rival’s. Vieira said to Neville: “Are you going to kick us again?” The incident ignited an already angry Roy Keane, who had heard about his team-mate being intimidated earlier. United’s captain went straight for the Frenchman and rapped: “Pick on someone your own size. Are you going to have a go at me then?”
That's how it feels to be a strongly-built, tall and big-size captain ;)

[Humanfly]

What a fight would it have been Vieira against Keane. Have you looked at the eyes of Keane? What a concentration before the match. And watch Rooney, he's like a child who's watching the old guys, he was probably thinking "don't fight please?" ;)
I think Rooney is a guy with a great mound but with a little heart. But congretulations for the Man Utd fans. It was a beautiful match and a beautiful goal from O'shea who i have seen playing for Antwerp couple of years ago. He has made an unbelievable progress.

By the way, just one more question as this the Man Utd thread. Does anyone know where Wallwork plays now? He also has played for Antwerp on loan a couple years ago but became famous when he kicked a referee in the tunnel. He was suspensed for 2 years. Just asking where he's playing now?

[Figо10]

What a fight would it have been Vieira against Keane. Have you looked at the eyes of Keane? What a concentration before the match. And watch Rooney, he's like a child who's watching the old guys, he was probably thinking "don't fight please?" ;)
I think Rooney is a guy with a great mound but with a little heart. But congretulations for the Man Utd fans. It was a beautiful match and a beautiful goal from O'shea who i have seen playing for Antwerp couple of years ago. He has made an unbelievable progress.

By the way, just one more question as this the Man Utd thread. Does anyone know where Wallwork plays now? He also has played for Antwerp on loan a couple years ago but became famous when he kicked a referee in the tunnel. He was suspensed for 2 years. Just asking where he's playing now?
The latest I heard he went to West Bromwich. I don't suppose he's moved yet otherwise there should be some news on it.

[Cannon ball]

Originally Posted by Humanfly
What a fight would it have been Vieira against Keane. Have you looked at the eyes of Keane? What a concentration before the match. And watch Rooney, he's like a child who's watching the old guys, he was probably thinking "don't fight please?"
I think Rooney is a guy with a great mound but with a little heart. But congretulations for the Man Utd fans. It was a beautiful match and a beautiful goal from O'shea who i have seen playing for Antwerp couple of years ago. He has made an unbelievable progress.

By the way, just one more question as this the Man Utd thread. Does anyone know where Wallwork plays now? He also has played for Antwerp on loan a couple years ago but became famous when he kicked a referee in the tunnel. He was suspensed for 2 years. Just asking where he's playing now?



Wallwork plays for west bromwich albion now and they are struggling. A beautiful match? It was ugly and brought out the worst.

[Hunter]

it was a quality match which brought out the best of football...nowadays its a non-contact sport and it was good to finally have a contact match...
plus having 6 goals in one game surely didnt bring out the worst in football mate...have a think.

[Cannon ball]

I meant how the players lost there cool, it was a horrid game for a referee, the players let themselves down with there conduct. I blame the managers...

[Hunter]

i actually thought that it was a great game to watch..the suspense was always their. it even had me really riled up and thats what football matches are suppossed to do get you anxious and g'd up...
it was easily the best match of the season with the other match between the two at Old Trafford second.

[Akineye]

It was a fantastic match, and an advert for British football.

By far the best match this season... you pay money to watch players sweat blood for the cause, and that's what most of the players on the pitch did.

[AgentZero]

yeh great advert of the quality of the EPL......one of the most exciting grudge/derby's match in the world of football.....its more firery than that anti-climax 3-0match (barca/real) which is most say is the greatest derby in europe....i think arse v united floggs'em by a country mile

[skullverine]

true.. its always fun to watch when these two team play each other

any news when Ruud will come back?

[Figо10]

Forlan takes a blast at Fergie:

Fergie's Forl guy

Manchester United reject Diego Forlan yesterday blasted former boss Sir Alex Ferguson for not backing him. Uruguayan striker Forlan has been impressive for Spanish side Villarreal this season, with 13 goals already. But the 25-year-old insists he will never return to the Premiership. He said: "Ferguson did not rate me as much as his other strikers. He didn't give me enough time to become a success at Manchester United - he lacked patience. I got tired of being a substitute for van Nistelrooy. The manager only had eyes for the Dutchman." Forlan added that United's latest crop of strikers were not a big improvement. "I don't consider myself to be a worse player than Alan Smith or Saha, for example," he said.
I can hardly believe, just like most of the Red Devils, that Forlan is one of La Liga's top scorers, but his statement doesn't make as much sense as his performances for Villareal.

Especially this part:

"He (Fergie) didn't give me enough time to become a success at Manchester United." :D

[Hunter]

i never thought Forlan would say something like that...but he still is a great guy.
i am happy now that hes finally doing well for himself at a club...
GO FORLAN !!!! :D

[Figо10]

Anyway do you know if Solskjaer can make his comeback this season or does he have to wait till the next??

[Mappa C]

There is no way Solskjaer will make it back for this season, I am even worried that he wont make it back at all but lets hope that i'm wrong.

[Phatmann]

There's not much chance that he'll be back this season. At the moment he is aiming to make it back for next seasons pre-season tour of China, and he is seeing his specialist this month to see how he's doing.

[pier69]

btw .talkin about china , how's dong fang zhuo ? i know he's comin to old trafford but when ? i wanna see him play and see if he lives up to the hype

[AgentZero]

i doubt hell make an appearance for the red devils...they dont need his services at all, i think hes buy was just so they can break into the asian market.....a real madrid act

[Cannon ball]

Apart from Hao Haidong who is now playing for sheffield united.

[Figо10]

i doubt hell make an appearance for the red devils...they dont need his services at all, i think hes buy was just so they can break into the asian market.....a real madrid act
Real never go for Asian players.

Perhaps you're talking about Arsenal when they bought Inamoto or Everton when they got Li Tie. And a few more Asians have made their way into the Premiership.

[Figо10]

What Los Galacticos is trying to say is that when Real bought Beckham, they only bought him so they could crack the asian market. Beckham is very popular over there - thats why they bought him. We've done exactly the same by signing Dong Fanzhou.
Oh I see. It's because of the trip they made to Asia, if they hadn't had Beckham maybe the crowd would be halved.

Has Dong Fangzhou really contributed anything to United's shirt-selling?? I don't think many Asians are buying shirts with his name on it even up to now.

[pier69]

real madrid is a spanish team and they can't waste their space for foreign talents in asia , cuz lets face it asian football is just not good enough , even though i come from asia

[Figо10]

real madrid is a spanish team and they can't waste their space for foreign talents in asia , cuz lets face it asian football is just not good enough , even though i come from asia
I agree 3 isn't a lot of space for foreigners.

Talk about Luxemburgo planning to buy all the hot Brazilian youngsters and taking them to Madrid :D Sacchi must convince him not to...

[zer0_faith]

According to PES4 (with me playing realistically as possible with Man Utd) the final score today should be... Man Utd 3 - Birmingham City -1, with goals from Scholes, Rio and Rooney

[Figо10]

According to PES4 (with me playing realistically as possible with Man Utd) the final score today should be... Man Utd 3 - Birmingham City -1, with goals from Scholes, Rio and Rooney
Hah Rio :D

I would expect United 3 - 0 Birmingham

With Rooney, Ronaldo and Saha among the goals ;)

[Cannon ball]

I can think of decent asian footballers, Ali Daei, Ali Karimi, Nakata, Park, Haidong...etc

[Hunter]

Nakata is about as good as you are going to get in Asian football mate...it is just not up to scratch..
United bought Dong Fangzhou as well for about £600,000 which even though it doesnt seem like much is crap for a player of such a low standard.

[ben7]

being a newbie, i dont wanna sound like an inexperianced idiot...

but i saw Dong Fangzhou play in some highlights broadcast by Sky Sports and he did look pretty promising, though i agree he probably wont be good enough for Uniteds first team.

[AgentZero]

id like to say congrats to both Roy and Cristiano
roy for breaking his 2 year long scoring drought and netting his 50th and cristiano for a happy 20th birthday.

[Hunter]

that 50th goal for Keano was quite a decent one as well...he ran with it for about 15yards before striking it with venom into the bottom corner taking it past the keeper...
KEANO,THERES ONLY ONE KEANO !!!!!!
hes a living legend...

[AgentZero]

DEATH TO MALCOM GLAZIER....if he does take