Manchester United

[Dundon's]

I'm not falling into the trap yet.

There's a lot of bad memories with me and the devils team.

P.S. Gattuso is playing the game of his life.

[greenegg]

Gennaro Gattuso :welcome2:

[Dundon's]

If Utd manage to score with around 5 minutes left I think I'll get sick. :erm:

[vanNistelrooy]

I know I said this on Saturday only to be proved wrong, but this isn't Everton...

GAME OVER.

If Utd manage to score with around 5 minutes left I think I'll get sick. :erm:
Why are you so keen for United to go out?

[Top Gun]

We need to do a Juventus job on them but as we don't have the Keane factor so I can't see this happening. We will be lucky if we can escape without being completely embarassed.

[Guillermo]

We need to do a Juventus job on them but as we don't have the Keane factor so I can't see this happening.

Plus that was 2-2 at half time.

GAME OVER.

Correctamundo.

[Dundon's]

Why are you so keen for United to go out?

Because I hate them.

[Viperized]

Good goals by Kaka and Seedorf.

Milan appear to have the edge in attack. United are just a blunt knife.

[Top Gun]

Plus that was 2-2 at half time.

True but the deficit was the same then at one point as it is at the moment.

It doesn't matter anyway as there is no way it is going happen.

[greenegg]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/kingegg/DSC00637.jpg

[Dundon's]

Haha well played my son. :D

P.S. He's in the trap. :ninja:

[Zoolander]

Damn you! God!!!!!!!!

[Dundon's]

Time for operation Solskjaer me thinks. :ninja:

[Dundon's]

3-0

Game set and match surely.

[Jonno394]

3-0

Game set and match surely.

Jealous and bitter of united.

Fucking snatch

2 goals and it's extra time you old irish muff.

[Guillermo]

Time for operation Solskjaer me thinks. :ninja:

Operation Haha more like :rolleyes:

Way too late for a comeback now. The biggest night of most of our players lives and they didn't perform anywhere near their capabilities. Shameful. Congrats AC.

[wrigh2uk]

Jeeez where was anyone, for that goal

Talk about Gung Ho

[Joel]

Don't worry United fans...our teams are going to the new Wembley :w00t :w00t

[Zoolander]

She Kaka!

[Dundon's]

Jealous and bitter of united.

Fucking snatch

2 goals and it's extra time you old irish muff.

10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1

Get out

[Jonno394]

10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1

Get out

what the fuck you on about you bogheaded mick.

[vanNistelrooy]

He was probably counting down the seconds of the match.

Congrats AC, you wanted AND deserved it more than we did.

Our performances, bar the Roma home game, in the competition this year did not warrant a place in the final, let alone to win the bloody thing.

What a final it will be though, eh?

[Rambo]

No suprise we lost tonight, were shit away from home.

[DazToon]

Great result!

Glad your out.

C'mon Chelsea, win the Prem!

[Calzone]

Unlucky boys, milan home, man u away, shit weather, All that makings for a bad game for man u. Unlucky, just take care of chelsea now.

[Top Gun]

I'm very dissapointed but to be honest after the group stages I wasn't confident. We put in two good performances in the CL this season so to get to the Semi's was a good performance. This will hopefully a good learning curve for the young lads as the main difference today was the experience of the Milan side. The Premiership was always the main priority this season but after getting this far I am dissapointed, as Joel said bring on Wembley!

[Jonno394]

He was probably counting down the seconds of the match.

Congrats AC, you wanted AND deserved it more than we did.

Our performances, bar the Roma home game, in the competition this year did not warrant a place in the final, let alone to win the bloody thing.

What a final it will be though, eh?

i'm not even a man united fan and i'm fucking pissed off; it doesn't matter if you didnt deserve it, but you should be saying stuff like gattuso's mom better get raped tonight or shit like that.

People who don't get angry or venomous when they lose shouldnt be classed as football fans

[AgentZero]

confident that liverpoll will win the final..seen it twice against bayern and us that milan needs 2 legs to dominate...Ancelotti is a master of the two leg ties...not the one off

bigegst c*nts:
Gattuso
Kaka'
Fletcher
Oddo

[vanNistelrooy]

i'm not even a man united fan and i'm fucking pissed off; it doesn't matter if you didnt deserve it, but you should be saying stuff like gattuso's mom better get raped tonight or shit like that.

People who don't get angry or venomous when they lose shouldnt be classed as football fans
What's the point of getting angry? What does it achieve? What's happened has happened.

Fans who get angry and all that shit aren't real fans IMO, they're just c**ts. I tend to get depressed and constantly think about the game, but in a few days it will be behind me.

Hopefully our performance won't affect how we play against City.

[7ames]

Tonights game showed up how far Ronaldo is off of a world class player. Kaka, over the 2 legs was in a class of his own. His pace was incredible and he could beat people, but it was his ability to find the space that impressed me. He didnt even need to take players on as he had done them with his off the ball movement. Kaka played man u on his own in the first leg and put in another great performance tonight.

Ronaldo vs Kaka - No contest

[Calzone]

confident that liverpoll will win the final..seen it twice against bayern and us that milan needs 2 legs to dominate...Ancelotti is a master of the two leg ties...not the one off

bigegst c*nts:
Gattuso
Kaka'
Fletcher
Oddo

cant see how you can be confident, i see your logic but, milan wont let liverpool make a fool of them again.

[AgentZero]

im confident because milans players are ageing and they conceed sily goals...but when theyve got a tactical direction theyre just pure class

[Calzone]

im confident because milans players are ageing and they conceed sily goals...but when theyve got a tactical direction theyre just pure class

they wont be that old in may, just play with the same line-up as tonight

[AgentZero]

if milan wins i know ill eat my words hard...but seeing both legs and the bayern games they dont show quality that they can win games in one game...if they were to it be a drubbing like 94 but liverpools got to much fight and are very cautiious in defence, they wont let kaka' any space..itll be a defensive minded liverpool

[Don Sweey]

What's the point of getting angry? What does it achieve? What's happened has happened.

Fans who get angry and all that shit aren't real fans IMO, they're just c**ts. I tend to get depressed and constantly think about the game, but in a few days it will be behind me.

Hopefully our performance won't affect how we play against City.

Excellent post.

[AgentZero]

imagine teh backlash against city...mouth watering methinks

[vanNistelrooy]

Excellent post.
;) Cheers dude ;)

[Billy Minof]

:happy: :happy: Yeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. :happy: :happy:

[AgentZero]

hardly mean anything as your a madrid fan...or are you?
and dint give me this 2nd team bullshit..no such thing...one team through and through

[Billy Minof]

hardly mean anything as your a madrid fan...or are you?
and dint give me this 2nd team bullshit..no such thing...one team through and through

Indeed, one team is right....but Ye lost and as I said yeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaa...C. Ronaldo my arse...keep him. :laugh:

[AgentZero]

thats all i need...go for that sky pointing twat instead

[Viperized]

hardly mean anything as your a madrid fan...or are you?
and dint give me this 2nd team bullshit..no such thing...one team through and through
LostGalactico
a lost Galactico

:erm:

[Billy Minof]

thats all i need...go for that sky pointing twat instead

We will ya, might aswell, Ronaldo is like Ray Parlour on Drugs. :shocking:

[AgentZero]

the picture of beckham....

ive made it clear in the past what it means and suppose to mean...my previous one was a typo

[Singh]

We will ya, might aswell, Ronaldo is like Ray Parlour on Drugs. :shocking:

:unsure:

Oh Well.....double is still on.

[Hunter]

Oh fucking hell, no need to say anything about our perforamance. Really.

[AgentZero]

at least we can concrentrate on the league till end of season

[Dundon's]

Aye man that's true and believe it or not and as hard as this is for me to say, "I want you to win the league OVER Chel$ki"

Listening to Ferguson tonight really showed the difference in class between the two managers, one was a total dip shit and the other took the defeat graciously.

Now lets hope Maldini gets to lift the European cup in his last ever game in the champions league.

[skullverine]

I surely hope Milan wins the final. Wouldn't stand the Liverpool fans singing 'we won it 6 times'

bad performance from the team. Everytime we had the chance to attack, we blew it by giving away the ball or Gattuso tackling everyone

Now, concentrate on the League and FA Cup

[Sully]

Unlucky lads at least you already have the prem in the bag.

[Barry]

How come everyone (English) is so happy to see English teams get knocked out? If Feyenoord or PSV were to be in it even I'd support them.

I'd laugh if they get crapped 4-0, but still I'd support them.

[Guillermo]

How come everyone (English) is so happy to see English teams get knocked out? If Feyenoord or PSV were to be in it even I'd support them.


But would PSV/Feyenoord fans rub it in your face?

[-The Trooper-]

Unlucky lads at least you already have the prem in the bag.

I wouldn't go that far. 3 games left, including United vs Chelsea. COULD go either way. It's not impossible for Chelsea to win but it is definatly all in United's favour.

[Barry]

But would PSV/Feyenoord fans rub it in your face?

Undoubtebly in every arguement. Although thankfully I don't often see PSV fans.

[Jonny2J]

Unlucky last night lads, well I say unlucky but I don't mean this in any respect as I expected Milan to win but that was just a capitulation last night. Taggart got his tactics completely wrong.

All of the best on your quest for the double.

[Sully]

I wouldn't go that far. 3 games left, including United vs Chelsea. COULD go either way. It's not impossible for Chelsea to win but it is definatly all in United's favour.

I'm trying to think of the worst because IF we do win it it will be so much sweeter

[Lami]

Tonights game showed up how far Ronaldo is off of a world class player. Kaka, over the 2 legs was in a class of his own. His pace was incredible and he could beat people, but it was his ability to find the space that impressed me. He didnt even need to take players on as he had done them with his off the ball movement. Kaka played man u on his own in the first leg and put in another great performance tonight.

Ronaldo vs Kaka - No contest

So Ronaldo is off of a world class player only because he couldn't play well enough in one game? Oh how wise of you. He barely had the ball in his feet during the 1st half with Man Utd playing long balls to nowhere. And whenever Ronaldo recieved the ball he had 2 milanese cunts up his ass then gattuso plays his dirty tricks to snatch the ball. He realised the 3 man marking he had to face everytime and at times passed the ball but no luck becuase the rest of the team were doing crap. Ronaldo had a yellow card and his fears of recieving another was pretty obvious whenever gattuso or whoever clips him from behind he does no reaction whatsoever. And the twat ref does nothing about it.
Kaka on the other hand had so much space with Vidic marking him which wasn't enough because he just wasn't fit and lacked pace. Don't go around with your shit comparison techniques only because you have a personal grudge against Ronaldo.
Get your facts straight.

[Viperized]

So Ronaldo is off of a world class player only because he couldn't play well enough in one game? Oh how wise of you. He barely had the ball in his feet during the 1st half with Man Utd playing long balls to nowhere. And whenever Ronaldo recieved the ball he had 2 milanese cunts up his ass then gattuso plays his dirty tricks to snatch the ball. He realised the 3 man marking he had to face everytime and at times passed the ball but no luck becuase the rest of the team were doing crap. Ronaldo had a yellow card and his fears of recieving another was pretty obvious whenever gattuso or whoever clips him from behind he does no reaction whatsoever. And the twat ref does nothing about it.
Kaka on the other hand had so much space with Vidic marking him which wasn't enough because he just wasn't fit and lacked pace. Don't go around with your shit comparison techniques only because you have a personal grudge against Ronaldo.
Get your facts straight.
Well it is actually a fact Ronaldo has failed to have the same impact against the top sides compared to the smaller sides he has played well against.

Against Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal he didn't do much. That said, he has played well this season, but not well enough against the big teams.

If you watch Kaka, he creates space himself. He moves into space. He finds space. He is a better player than Ronaldo.

[Miguel SC]

The truth is that Ronaldo always fail in the decisive moments. He has no champion stuff like he should have.
A world class player should be crucial in matches like this, and Ronaldo my friends, isn't world class....
Although, Kaká is, he has been decisive for Milan in tough situations and that is when you realise who's great and who's not.

[Zoolander]

The truth is that Ronaldo always fail in the decisive moments. He has no champion stuff like he should have.
A world class player should be crucial in matches like this, and Ronaldo my friends, isn't world class....
Although, Kaká is, he has been decisive for Milan in tough situations and that is when you realise who's great and who's not.

So Alan Shearer wasn't World Class? Ronaldo has all the ingredients to become World class! There's no team in the world who wouldn't have him.

[Jonny2J]

So Alan Shearer wasn't World Class? Ronaldo has all the ingredients to become World class! There's no team in the world who wouldn't have him.What's Sir Alan got to do with it. ;)

[Miguel SC]

What's Sir Alan got to do with it. ;)

Good point.

[Zoolander]

He has no champion stuff like he should have.
A world class player should be crucial in matches like this, and Ronaldo my friends, isn't world class....

Using your criteria for a World Class player I have come to the conclusion Alan Shearer is not World Class.

[Jonny2J]

Using your criteria for a World Class player I have come to the conclusion Alan Shearer is not World Class.He's not now no but he was. ;)

[Zoolander]

Is it true about Kieron Dyer having the HIV?

[Jonny2J]

Is it true about Kieron Dyer having the HIV?If he did I very much doubt he'd be still playing. Rumours are it was something to do with some medication he was taking totally fucking his liver up completely, not to sure on this as I have nothing concrete to back it up nor does nobody I know.

The Woodgate stories are all true though.

[Sully]

What are the Woodgate stories?

[Jonny2J]

What are the Woodgate stories?Him and Tony Montana have a lot of things in common.

[Sully]

Cuban? Or maybe large amounts of a certain white powder

[AgentZero]

well it would be foolish to say that cristiano is best in europe...because kaka' outshon..out everything cristiano...he may be the best in england but the style of play is differnt in europe
a wise man once said

"playing football in Italy is like playing chess, whereas in the premiership you just run
Wayne Rooney

[Dr. Bob Kelso]

well it would be foolish to say that cristiano is best in europe...because kaka' outshon..out everything cristiano...he may be the best in england but the style of play is differnt in europe
a wise man once said

"playing football in Italy is like playing chess, whereas in the premiership you just run
Wayne Rooney

"At half time I said if we could score a goal it would be different, then we did and it was different." - Rafa Benitez (Grand Master)

[vanNistelrooy]

If he was a Grand Master, he'd be battling between 1st and 2nd, not 3rd and 4th, surely?

[Viperized]

"At half time I said if we could score a goal it would be different, then we did and it was different." - Rafa Benitez (Grand Master)
Forget your Jamie Carragher quote.

Some Italian papers:
"Kolo Toure is the black Fabio Cannavaro"

[Hunter]

Him and Tony Montana have a lot of things in common.

Now we all know why he went back to Teesside. ;)

[vanNistelrooy]

Now we all know why he went back to Teesside. ;)
Tony Montana liked fat ugly birds?

[wrathchild_uk]

Are people not forgetting the fact that Ronaldo is still only 22, Kaka is 25 and i'm sure in another 3 years Ronaldo will be a far better player than he is now, people expect the likes of Ronaldo and Rooney to perform well in every match because Utd don't really have many other players who can cause teams big problems. So if they play crap then Utd usually play crap...

[AgentZero]

kaka' joined Meeelan when he was 21

[Jonny2J]

Are people not forgetting the fact that Ronaldo is still only 22, Kaka is 25 and i'm sure in another 3 years Ronaldo will be a far better player than he is now, people expect the likes of Ronaldo and Rooney to perform well in every match because Utd don't really have many other players who can cause teams big problems. So if they play crap then Utd usually play crap...But you are forgetting the hype that is surrounding Cristiano at the moment, if everyone is saying he is the best player in the world then he should be delivering in the top games.

[Usul]

I'm guessing that Ronaldo doesn't do that well against top teams for the same reason that Ronaldinho finds it difficult to do so. Good squads neutralize this kind of player by double teaming him into submission. In Ronaldinho's case, it's sometimes up to three that jump him. The sideback, a midfielder, and either a centre back or another midfielder.

[Dr. Bob Kelso]

I'm guessing that Ronaldo doesn't do that well against top teams for the same reason that Ronaldinho finds it difficult to do so. Good squads neutralize this kind of player by double teaming him into submission. In Ronaldinho's case, it's sometimes up to three that jump him. The sideback, a midfielder, and either a centre back or another midfielder.

This has been going on for Years, great players deal with it.

[Usul]

This has been going on for Years, great players deal with it.
Yes, we all know it's been happening for years. Did my post sound like i was implying that it's an innovative and revolutionary new tactic devised to supress good players?

Someone was saying that Ronaldo doesn't perform in the big ones, so i was giving the most probable and obvious reason as to why that happens. The big clubs know what to do with his kind and, what's more important, they have the means (quality players) to do it.

Anyhow, great players can't always dribble past three opponents bent on taking the ball or bringing them down. New tactics have to be brought into place to counter this.

[Jonny2J]

Yes, we all know it's been happening for years. Did my post sound like i was implying that it's an innovative and revolutionary new tactic devised to supress good players?

Someone was saying that Ronaldo doesn't perform in the big ones, so i was giving the most probable and obvious reason as to why that happens. The big clubs know what to do with his kind and, what's more important, they have the means (quality players) to do it.

Anyhow, great players can't always dribble past three opponents bent on taking the ball or bringing him down. New tactics have to be brought into place to counter this.That's the thing, personally I don't think he has the footballing brain to think up new tactics when his usual flicks and tricks don't work. You say this about Ronaldinho but for Barcelona he's proved to me that he is a big game player.

[Usul]

That's the thing, personally I don't think he has the footballing brain to think up new tactics when his usual flicks and tricks don't work. You say this about Ronaldinho but for Barcelona he's proved to me that he is a big game player.
Of course he is, Jonny. Ronaldinho is so much more than tricks. Not only is he effective, he makes it look good. He is one of the very few that have ever made a pinpoint pass with his fucking back, without even looking.

When the ball is on it's way to his feet, he is instantly assaulted. If you give this guy too much space, he will destroy you.

He still manages to hold the ball extremely well, regardless of the kicks to his ankles, and either backheels it to the sideback, gives it to the midfielders, or crossess it to the other winger, which on many occassions has been an off-side breaking assist that's led to a goal.

Giuly has scored so many with this tactic.

Everynow and again, he'll try to dribble past them, and the success rate is not high, but he is quite capable of doing it. Which is no easy feat when they are stepping on your feet and pulling your shirt. I don't like it when he tries it. He is playing in a team, so that kind of heroic is better left for when we've got the lead. I say let them double team him and leave Xavi and Deco open. Suits us just fine.

If anyone watched our last fixture, you'll have noticed the treatment that Messi got. Even so, the lad is very fucking good. He kept trying and kept going. Unstoppable. He got tackled so hard he fell but immediately picked himself up and kept charging towards goal. So refreshing.

I'd rather he toned it down a little though. I fear for his legs.

[Jonny2J]

Of course he is, Jonny. Ronaldinho is so much more than tricks. Not only is he effective, he makes it look good. He is one of the very few that have ever made a pinpoint pass with his fucking back, without even looking.

When the ball is on it's way to his feet, he is instantly assaulted. If you give this guy too much space, he will destroy you.

He still manages to hold the ball extremely well, regardless of the kicks to his ankles, and either backheels it to the sideback, gives it to the midfielders, or crossess it to the other winger, which on many occasions has been an off-side breaking assist that's led to a goal.

Giuly has scored so many with this tactic.

Every now and again, he'll try to dribble past them, and the success rate is not high, but he is quite capable of doing it. Which is no easy feat when they are stepping on your feet and pulling your shirt. I don't like it when he tries it. He is playing in a team, so that kind of heroic is better left for when we've got the lead. I say let them double team him and leave Xavi and Deco open. Suits us just fine.

If anyone watched our last fixture, you'll have noticed the treatment that Messi got. Even so, the lad is very fucking good. He kept trying and kept going. Unstoppable. He got tackled so hard he fell but immediately picked himself up and kept charging towards goal. So refreshing.

I'd rather he toned it down a little though. I fear for his legs.What also stems Ronaldinho as unique compared to a lot the likes of Cristiano is his in game intelligence, tactical brain and vision. Cristiano does not have these attributes like Ronaldinho and that is no detriment to the lad as it's just not his style of play and never will be. Even Rooney despite scoring however many goals this season but not having the impact he has had previously is a more intelligent player than Cristiano, it's just the way some players brains operates.

But it's the same as like Zidane had, players like that know that the opposition are going to employ several people to mark them, but where Cristiano gets frustrated as he can't beat them with his trickery and lashes out. Ronaldinho and Zidane realise this creates space and time for their team mates and then instead of going for glory all of the time will use their tactical nous with the space that is being created due to themselves to find their compadres in space. Now this is the hallmarks of great players. It's all well and good going for glory all of the time, but the true greats in their positions all play for the team as well and sacrifice personal glory for it.

[Barry]

What also stems Ronaldinho as unique compared to a lot the likes of Cristiano is his in game intelligence, tactical brain and vision. Cristiano does not have these attributes like Ronaldinho and that is no detriment to the lad as it's just not his style of play and never will be. Even Rooney despite scoring however many goals this season but not having the impact he has had previously is a more intelligent player than Cristiano, it's just the way some players brains operates.

But it's the same as like Zidane had, players like that know that the opposition are going to employ several people to mark them, but where Cristiano gets frustrated as he can't beat them with his trickery and lashes out. Ronaldinho and Zidane realise this creates space and time for their team mates and then instead of going for glory all of the time will use their tactical nous with the space that is being created due to themselves to find their compadres in space. Now this is the hallmarks of great players. It's all well and good going for glory all of the time, but the true greats in their positions all play for the team as well and sacrifice personal glory for it.

A good post. Although Zidane lashed out at others too when things weren't too good. But that is of little importance.

CRonaldo has almost all the technical attributes down, but he still has to work on alot of mental and team-issues. And of course his ridiculous diving antics.

[Jonny2J]

A good post. Although Zidane lashed out at others too when things weren't too good. But that is of little importance.

CRonaldo has almost all the technical attributes down, but he still has to work on alot of mental and team-issues. And of course his ridiculous diving antics.Zidane didn't half have a temper on him Barry I agree with that. However he still turned it on when he had too and the comments I made about his unselfish play and intelligence still stand. ;)

[Dr. Bob Kelso]

Yes, we all know it's been happening for years. Did my post sound like i was implying that it's an innovative and revolutionary new tactic devised to supress good players?

Someone was saying that Ronaldo doesn't perform in the big ones, so i was giving the most probable and obvious reason as to why that happens. The big clubs know what to do with his kind and, what's more important, they have the means (quality players) to do it.

Anyhow, great players can't always dribble past three opponents bent on taking the ball or bringing them down. New tactics have to be brought into place to counter this.


Chill out lad I was just making a point not having a pop at you.

The reason CRonaldo doesn't perform in big games is as you say he isn't allowed to, however he is either all guns blazing or totally invisible and this is not something that is true of great players. Gerrard can play poorly for 89 minutes then win a game in the 90th I don't think the same can be said of CRonaldo. As the lads on RTE so rightly pointed out Ronaldo when things are going against him has this "well it isn't my fault so why should I change" attitude.

Since he is being (laughably) compared to Best and Figo, ask yourself would CRonaldo perform well enough in a European Cup final from what you have seen to win it or even take his team to the final ? One excellent Season does not a great player make. He has the ability but until he starts to think and act like a great player he will NEVER be one.

[Jonno394]

LMAO; you come on here saying CRonaldo is overrated when Gerrard is fucking overrated as well; he was shit against chelsea, did we watch the same game?

But because he's scouse and plays for your team, he is an amazing player right?

[wrathchild_uk]

But you are forgetting the hype that is surrounding Cristiano at the moment, if everyone is saying he is the best player in the world then he should be delivering in the top games.

Well he's not the one comming out saying "i'm the best player in the world" is so its not exactly his fault, besides i'd rather have Ronaldo in my team than the likes of Adriano (the most overated player on pes6) and other players who are supposedly the best in the world. To be fair aswell they were doubling up against Ronaldo the other night and i'm sure if Kaka had the same treatment then he would of probably had a bad game too.

[Dr. Bob Kelso]

Anyone who thinks Adriano is the best in the World probably thinks Torres isn't far behind. Idiots.

[wrathchild_uk]

Anyone who thinks Adriano is the best in the World probably thinks Torres isn't far behind. Idiots.

Konami seem to bum him.. :mellow:

[Dr. Bob Kelso]

Konami seem to bum him.. :mellow:

They also thought Lampard was as quick as Gerrard from what I have seen when I play Chelski.

I ain't buyin it.

[Joel]

To be fair aswell they were doubling up against Ronaldo the other night and i'm sure if Kaka had the same treatment then he would of probably had a bad game too.

I don't think so. Kaka' is a genius and I think he is the type of player that will still find space, or just pull his markers away to create space for other players.

But Ronaldo is still a young boy, so let's see how he builds on his great season.


Konami seem to bum him.. :mellow:

He is their cover man...ofcourse he is going to be one of the best in the game.

[Lami]

I still think all your comparisons vs C Ronaldo are unfair. He's still 22 for gods sake. Ronaldinho already on 27. Give the man a break. He's matured compared to last season. He's got many games and years to come for him. Til then, leave the lad alone and enjoy football.

[Lord Shrimpeh]

Ronaldo is a brilliant winger... he's not a Gerrard, Zidane or even Kaka. They all play in different positions to him. He's an out and out winger. It's amazing he scores the number of goals he does considering that but that's down to the fact he's damn good at what he does. He just doesn't play in a position in which he can change a game if it's going as bad as the Milan one was. Do you expect him to dribble from the right wing past the best defenders in the world and score on his own? I don't think so.

I don't think he is the best but he's one of the best and probably the best winger in the world.

[wrathchild_uk]

I don't think so. Kaka' is a genius and I think he is the type of player that will still find space, or just pull his markers away to create space for other players.



Well to be fair Kaka was up against the likes of Fletcher and a makeshift Utd defence over the two games where as Ronaldo had two players doubling up on him most of the time and then still a pretty strong Milan defence to get past so in that sense I think its harsh to criticise Ronaldo..

[Usul]

the likes of Adriano (the most overated player on pes6)
PES6 abilities are supposed to be based on potential, not current form.

[skullverine]

changing the topic. Any news that Rio will start tonight?

[Jesus]

Reds freshen up for City

Sir Alex Ferguson has no new injury concerns ahead of Saturday's Manchester derby at Eastlands, but will attempt to freshen up his side for the lunchtime clash by recalling four players.

Rio Ferdinand, Louis Saha and Alan Smith, were all on the bench for Wednesday's Champions League semi-final defeat to Milan.

Ferdinand, who had been suffering from a groin strain, was not risked. But, having recovered from a troublesome hamstring injury, Saha played the final thirteen minutes of the match.

Patrice Evra is available again after the French defender missed the trip to Italy through suspension, while Alan Smith is fully fit and ready if called upon.

“There are no injuries from Wednesday night’s game,” confirmed the boss on Friday. “The first thing I have got to do is the freshness I can apply to the team on Saturday. European games take it out of you, and with the City match being a 12:45 kick-off, we certainly have considerations to make.

"But, for the first time in a few weeks we have got options. There are some players available for the game, like Rio Ferdinand, Louis Saha, Alan Smith and Patrice Evra, who was suspended on Wednesday.

“It’s difficult to assess how players react after the midweek game, but the fact that it’s a derby game means we have to work out what to do, because all the players will want to play. I’m sure that Giggsy, Scholesy and all the players who have played in derby games before will want to play in it.”

Sir Alex is confident his players will not suffer from a Champions League hangover following defeat to Milan in midweek.

Source (http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={B4CEE8FA-9A47-47BC-B069-3F7A2F35DB70}&newsid=424667)

Gary Neville is targeting the FA Cup final against Chelsea later this month for a return from an ankle injury that has kept him out since March.

Source (http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={B4CEE8FA-9A47-47BC-B069-3F7A2F35DB70}&newsid=424884)


Milan Outclass United
Manchester United Columnist]Manchester United were thoroughly beaten by a classy Milan side in the pouring rain at the San Siro on Wednesday night ending United's chance of emulating the 99' treble success. An early goal from Kaka set the tone for the rest of the match with United never really looking like they would trouble Milan's well organised defence. Seedorf added a second following a defensive mistake between Heinze and Vidic then to cap off a poor evening Gilardinho added the third and final nail in United's European coffin.

Manchester United's hopes of turning the Champions League Final into an all-English affair were brutally crushed at the San Siro as AC Milan set up a revenge attack on Liverpool.

Sir Alex Ferguson's men chose the worst night possible to turn in one of their worst displays of the entire campaign, with Cristiano Ronaldo among the biggest let downs.

That is not to place too much blame on the young Portugal winger's shoulders - there were plenty of others around him who did not perform either.

But, without the spark Ronaldo has provided so often this season, United were a dreadful disappointment, their treble hopes shattered.

Nursing a single goal lead from the first meeting at Old Trafford last week, United saw their advantage wiped out by Kaka inside 11 minutes.

Clarence Seedorf capped a brilliant personal display by netting the second on the half hour and hope had virtually evaporated for United by the time Alberto Gilardino drilled home a third late on.

And a bad night for Ferguson's team ended in bad tempered fashion as Paul Scholes managed to provoke Gennaro Gattuso into a furious rage and Ronaldo was booked for a wild lunge on Marek Jankulovski.

Ferguson had promised, win or lose, his team would remain true to their attacking beliefs.

Yet, from the outset, it was obvious something was badly wrong.

There was a hesitancy, almost a timidness about their play. Routine passes went astray with unnerving regularity, loose balls were snaffled by Milan players. Ronaldo and Rooney, so brilliant on domestic and European stages recently, could do nothing right.

At the back, United's defence, supposedly strengthened by the introduction of Nemanja Vidic, creaked and groaned like an old gate in need of a spot of oil.

In contrast, the home team were superb, with Kaka and Seedorf among the most impressive.

United were given a warning of what was to come as early as the second minute when Kaka's free-kick was nodded out to Seedorf, whose snap-shot would have gone in had fellow Dutchman Edwin van der Sar not tipped it over.

There was just a hope, as it all started to unfold in front of Ferguson's eyes, that if United could somehow hold on to their precious advantage, a stronger force might eventually emerge from the shell of a team they appeared to be.

Unfortunately, it did not happen as the Red Devils were caught out by a distinctly 'English' goal as Alessandro Nesta launched a long ball towards the edge of their box.

Seedorf won the aerial duel and turned his header neatly into Kaka's path.

Having given a demonstration of his finishing skills at Old Trafford, United feared what was to follow and the Brazilian duly fired a low shot into the bottom corner.

Ferguson's problems did not end there as Andrea Pirlo skidded a shot just wide.

At least there was some attacking threat from the visitors, albeit a sporadic one, with Ryan Giggs drilling a low shot at Dida which the Milan goalkeeper smothered at the second attempt.

Disaster was lurking though as Vidic, who looked off the pace on his first appearance since breaking a collarbone on March 31, headed Kaka's cross to Seedorf.

The midfielder brushed Darren Fletcher away as though the young Scot did not exist, then took maximum advantage of a fortuitous ricochet as Vidic closed in to make a tackle, belting his volley into virtually the same spot as Kaka had found earlier.

It left United in exactly the same position as they had been in at Everton on Saturday.

At Goodison Park they famously roared back to win. This was an entirely different proposition though and all hope would have been lost had Filippo Inzaghi found the net from Massimo Oddo's cross instead of flashing a near-post effort just wide.

It got no better after the break. As Ronaldo hung his head at another pass sent straight to an opponent, Milan burst forward, Kaka beat Vidic and only a fine save from Van der Sar kept United alive.

Only now, with virtually an hour on the clock, did the visitors start playing.

Ronaldo rocketed two free-kicks into the Milan wall, Fletcher screwed an angled shot wide and Rooney appealed in vain for a penalty when Oddo barged into him from behind.

But the goal that would have given United fresh hope just would not come and in the end it was Milan who scored again, Gilardino racing through alone 12 minutes from time before beating Van der Sar in clinical fashion.

So it was the Italians, so nearly expelled from the tournament for their part in the match-fixing scandal, who will go to Athens, eager to atone for the misery Liverpool inflicted on them with that amazing win in Istanbul two years ago.

Teams:

AC Milan Dida, Oddo, Nesta, Kaladze, Jankulovski,Gattuso (Cafu 84), Pirlo, Seedorf, Ambrosini,Kaka (Favalli 86), Inzaghi (Gilardino 66).

Subs Not Used: Kalac, Bonera, Serginho, Brocchi.

Booked: Ambrosini, Gattuso.

Goals: Kaka 11, Seedorf 30, Gilardino 78.

Man Utd Van der Sar, O'Shea (Saha 77), Brown, Vidic, Heinze,Ronaldo, Fletcher, Scholes, Carrick, Giggs, Rooney.

Subs Not Used: Kuszczak, Ferdinand, Smith, Solskjaer,

Richardson, Eagles.

Booked: Ronaldo.

Agg (5-3)

Att: 78,500

Ref: Frank De Bleeckere (Belgium)[/FONT]

Source (http://forevermanutd.com//content/view/293/9/)

Manchester United Vs Manchester City Preview
Manchester City and Manchester United meet tomorrow in what represents the 136th derby clash between two sides. Here Simon goes through the pre match analysis ahead of a potential Championship winning game.


For Manchester City skipper Joey Barton will miss out after being involved in a nasty fracas with teammate Oliver Dabo earlier in the week. Other notable absentee for City will be England International Micah Richards, a long-term casualty after suffering injury on international duty.

City have been in poor form in recent times and have not win since the 9th of April in a 3-1 victory over Fulham at Craven Cottage and although are safely through the relegation zone they may well fall to 14th place should they lose to United and with Stuart Pearce no doubt facing renewed pressure on his position following former Bolton boss Sam Allardyce’s decision to leave The Reebok Stadium the game is a must win for City, if not to give the Sky Blue fans something to cheer about.

City will no doubt be bolstered by their derby day victory last year at Eastland’s, but face a tough test against a United side wounded for pride after their 3-0 loss in Milan.

Manchester United will welcome back Patrice Evra from European suspension this weekend and with Louis Saha also back most likely on the bench The Red Devils will have more options in both attack and defence.

Although having a torrid time against Milan it is likely Sir Alex Ferguson will stick with Nemanja Vidic, although Rio Ferdinand may come back alongside the Serbian international in the heart of defence with Wes Brown moving back onto the right fullback position.


United know that if they win at the City of Manchester Stadium and if Chelsea lose or draw away to Arsenal on Sunday, that the red half of Manchester will be singing come Sunday.

Should Patrice Evra and Gabriel Heinze appear against City they will both be making their 50th appearances in United colours, whilst PFA player and young player of the year Ronaldo can score his 50th goal for the club should he find the net tomorrow.

Source (http://forevermanutd.com//content/view/292/9/)

[vanNistelrooy]

Sinclair is on the bench :no: I can see him scoring past us :no:

Also that Darius Vaseline bastard will actually turn up! :(

[Zoolander]

Hear about the suspect packages getting sent to Carrington? Roman & his gangsters I bet!

[Sully]

Nope twas I who sent it. Was only a bunch of flowers though

[Guillermo]

Micheal Ball is a disgrace.

[Barry]

The pitch is actually mowed in a Burberry motive :mellow:

Michael Ball is a disgrace

Surprised he's still on the pitch. He's shite, at PSV he was a disaster. Most of the danger seems to come from long balls, both sides.

Ronaldo really made the most of that. Ball should know he goes down at contact. He actually stood still in his run-up, I thought that wasn't allowed? 0-1 anyway.

[Zoolander]

Hahaha Ball! Cunt!

[vanNistelrooy]

Please blow the full time whistle now!? Please?

Only 45 minutes away lads, please don't fuck this up.

[Cannon ball]

Arrgggg..... Frustrating... The football we play is horribly negative, but thats what you get with a defender managing the team. Have a go at them! Attack!

[vanNistelrooy]

In previous seasons you've gone at us, and usually done well. But from the word go it looks like you're settling for a draw.

[Zoolander]

Damn you! Ball! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahaha!

[Top Gun]

Vassell :laugh: Soft penalty won by someone who shouldn't be on the pitch. Justice.

[Barry]

Vassell had some strong moments though. Finally some attacking spirit from City.

[Zoolander]

Come on Arsenal! Lets all cum on Arsenal!

[vanNistelrooy]

Vassell :laugh: Soft penalty won by someone who shouldn't be on the pitch. Justice.
Exactly what I thought, I would have felt cheated if we had dropped points because of that prick.

Van Der Sar, we love you!

[Top Gun]

Come on Arsenal! Lets all cum on Arsenal!

Don't worry they will be getting my full support tomorrow, probably for the first time ever. I'm just hoping that Chelsea won't be on the backlash after the Champions League exit.

[Cannon ball]

Fucking Vassell needs shooting. Awful penalty. Pearce should hit the road and dont come back, that was a poor performance, we only played half decent in the last 10 minutes. Sun Jihai's diving was just plain embarrassing. Arrrggggg!! Useless tossers.

You guys have virtually won the title, I can not see Chelsea winning at all.

[vanNistelrooy]

Change that avatar CB ;)

[Guillermo]

Change that avatar CB ;)

I think changing the sig would be more appropriate ;)

[vanNistelrooy]

Bitch ;)

[greenegg]

That Citeh penner was never a fucking penner. Matey just charged into a motionless brown. Vassel is a turd.

[karandinho]

fuck man city they suck can't score penalty !

[vanNistelrooy]

Spot on there, Karen.

[Cannon ball]

That Citeh penner was never a fucking penner. Matey just charged into a motionless brown. Vassel is a turd.

Look, I know Vassell is talentless, crap at pens, cant score and what not but theres no need for racism.:ninja:

[skullverine]

Ball is an asshole

[Dr. Bob Kelso]

Although it wont apply to many on here, can I just thank Man United fans for graciously giving up their flights to Athens and also cancelling their accomodation. More and more flights are mysteriously becoming available from Manchester Airport in particular and not at unbelievable prices.

:D

[vanNistelrooy]

No probs, I feel we owe you Liverpool fans praise for bigging your team up before the season started, allowing us to sneak to the Premiership title ;)

[Dr. Bob Kelso]

No probs, I feel we owe you Liverpool fans praise for bigging your team up before the season started, allowing us to sneak to the Premiership title ;)

Nothing like a half decent performance against your rivals to let you forget that you can't get it done against Europe's elite I suppose.

[vanNistelrooy]

We played shite all season in the CL, I've said that all along. For us to get to the semi finals playing the way we did shows the standard of football there's been in the competition.

We've pretty much won the league, which was what I wanted all along.

Congrats on the CL final and all that, but nothing you could say could upset me after today's result.

[Viperized]

The title is just about wrapped up for United. Surely there is no way Chelsea will win it now.

There is an 8 point gap as well. Although I could see Chelsea winning the title only if they win their next 3 games whilst United lose their next two games. But this is an unlikely scenario.

[Usul]

I must say, that was a great dive by Ronaldo.
The pitch is actually mowed in a Burberry motive :mellow:
It was ugly and annoying to look at.

[skullverine]

according to the replay, Ronaldo didn't dive

[Yossi]

He was definitely caught. He possibly could've stayed on his feet, but there was sufficient contact.

Ball will be lucky to get away a three game ban for that assault on Ronaldo. What is it with Man City left backs?

And about the tartan tablecloth pitch. I thought it was innovative.

[Usul]

according to the replay, Ronaldo didn't dive
According to replay, Ronaldo was looking for the dive. He could have easily avoided that foot, but he wanted to get back at Ball.

It's as clear as daylight.

[Keyser Soze]

According to replay, Ronaldo was looking for the dive. He could have easily avoided that foot, but he wanted to get back at Ball.

It's as clear as daylight.
I agree, but would anyone be expect C.Ronaldo to stay on his feet in that situation? In fairness to him, Ball stuck his leg out blindly and contact was made so Ronaldo had the right to go down.

[Usul]

I agree, but would anyone be expect C.Ronaldo to stay on his feet in that situation? In fairness to him, Ball stuck his leg out blindly and contact was made so Ronaldo had the right to go down.
Ronaldo pretty much created the situation. He was waiting for that foot to come out so he could trip on it.

It was a Hell of a way to get his revenge on Ball, but it's still a dive in my book.

[Zoolander]

Just notice your avatar The G, isn't it Michael Essien?

[Keyser Soze]

I'd agree with that, Muad.

Just notice your avatar The G, isn't it Michael Essien?
Think it's Mickael Essien, but I didn't make the avatar... :mellow:

[Zoolander]

Don't mind me, I have OCD.

[Yossi]

Wiki, his website, the Ghana website and the Chelsea site agree on Michael.

[Keyser Soze]

Wiki, his website, the Ghana website and the Chelsea site agree on Michael.
Touche'. :mellow:

[vanNistelrooy]

God, Ronaldo actually gets caught and he still gets accused of diving!

His ability got him into that decision, and even if Ball didn't make contact he'd still have got past him and had the chance to deliver a killer pass (which to be honest he'd probably fuck up :tongue:). Ball deserves to conceed it for making a stupid unecessary "challenge".

Compared to City's penalty, it's stonewall ;)

[wrathchild_uk]

Micheal Ball is a disgrace.

I think he's City's new Thatcher..

[Cali]

Let's fucking hope Chelsea slip up tommorow now then. Great win today against Shitty. Brilliant stop from Edwin from the Penalty Spot. Nice penalty from Cristiano. I seriously couldn't be any happier with today's win, to think that if Chelsea slip up tommorow we will win our first Premiership trophy since 2003 just is excellent. Beyond Excellent :D.

[Jesus]

I am supporting Arsenal for the day. I thinks it is the first time in my life, I am doing so.

[Lami]

Ronaldo pretty much created the situation. He was waiting for that foot to come out so he could trip on it.

It was a Hell of a way to get his revenge on Ball, but it's still a dive in my book.

You hate C Ronaldo :ninja:

[BLOODYAUSSIE]

i reckon hes all class, we need some players like him in liverpool that can supply to the forwards, thats half our problem.
Mascherano>Pennant>Zenden>Gonzalez.
Not the best bunch of side midfielders ive ever seen...

[vanNistelrooy]

League probe Howard omission

The Premier League is to investigate why Tim Howard did not play in Everton's 4-2 defeat to Manchester United.

Howard was left out of the game at Goodison Park last weekend as part of the agreement which saw the keeper complete a permanent switch to The Toffees in February.

The United States international originally joined Everton on loan, but signed a five-year contract after United accepted an undisclosed offer.

Toffees boss David Moyes confirmed prior to the game that Howard would be omitted from his side as a result of the deal struck with the Premiership leaders.

But the Premier League has confirmed it will ask the two clubs about the agreement as it could contravene league regulations.

"We will be contacting both clubs as a matter of urgency to find out what has gone on," Premier League spokesman Dan Johnson told the News of the World.

"As Howard's is a permanent transfer there is no reason why he could not have played against Manchester United.

"Had such a clause been included in the transfer we would not have allowed it - it would have been a clear case of third party interference.

"We certainly have no record of an agreement between Everton and United that Howard could not play on April 28."

West Ham United were recently fined £5.5million for fielding Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano, who were owned by a third party.
Source: Sky Sports (http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=465167&CPID=8&clid=11&lid=2&title=League+probe+Howard+omis sion)

Wouldn't surprse me if we got docked points to be honest, knowing the FA and their enjoyment at making an example of us and our players (Rio).

[Rossy Boy]

Well hope you dont get docked points as i dont want chelsea to have the title, hopefully your will just get fined if anything :)

[AgentZero]

if we ge docked points west ham should be relegated...nuff said

[vanNistelrooy]

No-one should really get docked points, as it's not like anyone's PLAYED anyone they shouldn't have.

Anyway, if the deal was done in FEBRUARY, that's outside the window. So it should work that he's on loan till the end of the season and permanent from then on, so he wouldn't have been allowed to play.

[AgentZero]

yeh agreed...he did sign for a loan spell for a season, thus all of the agreements in the loan carries on untill the contract has ended..
still, if we lose points then..i predict a riot

[AgentZero]

Ronaldo pretty much created the situation. He was waiting for that foot to come out so he could trip on it.

It was a Hell of a way to get his revenge on Ball, but it's still a dive in my book.

that c*nt ball ...fucking KARMA mate!!! 10/10

[Barry]

Ronaldo pretty much created the situation. He was waiting for that foot to come out so he could trip on it.

It was a Hell of a way to get his revenge on Ball, but it's still a dive in my book.

True.

[Usul]

You hate C Ronaldo :ninja:
I like Cristiano. I was actually praising his dive. It was one of the few instances where i don't mind a skillful dive to get back at a poor defender that makes up for his inadequacies by using intimidation tactics.

Don't get me wrong though. I might have torn into him and his family had he done it against us. :)

[Dr. Bob Kelso]

I have no problem with what C.Ronaldo did and for once I believe it is just people picking on the lad. I have heard all the Mancs come out and defend him for everything he does, even when it is blatantly cheating but what he did yesterday is what most top players in his position would have done. He invited the challenge and "won" the pen. Ball was stupid enough to dive in and he should have known better.

[wrathchild_uk]

yeh agreed...he did sign for a loan spell for a season, thus all of the agreements in the loan carries on untill the contract has ended..
still, if we lose points then..i predict a riot

Its the same thing with the Kuszczak deal so i can't see any problems, also i recall over the years when players have joined clubs and then had to play the former players club almost straight away and then the player has not played cus of that...if that makes sense :S

[Joel]

No-one should really get docked points, as it's not like anyone's PLAYED anyone they shouldn't have.

Anyway, if the deal was done in FEBRUARY, that's outside the window. So it should work that he's on loan till the end of the season and permanent from then on, so he wouldn't have been allowed to play.

Correct.

It would be wrong for United to face any punishment, as officially, Howard is still on loan. The permanent deal does not go through until the summer.

[Lami]

Correct.

It would be wrong for United to face any punishment, as officially, Howard is still on loan. The permanent deal does not go through until the summer.

What if the loan contract was replaced by the other? not possible?

[Joel]

What if the loan contract was replaced by the other? not possible?

It was done outside the transfer window, so that's not a possibility.

[wrathchild_uk]

Why are they questioning the deal then, wouldn't they know that he's on loan still??

[Rambo]

Seeing as the cunts didn't deduct points from West Ham, I am quietly confident they will not deduct points off us.

[Zoolander]

Jean-Michel Aulas has hinted Lyon would be interested in signing Manchester United striker Louis Saha.

Reports have claimed that the French champions have lined up Saha as a potential summer recruit.

Lyon are keen to bring in more firepower at the end of the season and appear to hold an interest in Saha.

Speaking to the French media after his side's 1-1 draw at Paris Saint Germain on Saturday, Aulas conceded the former Metz attacker is an option.

"He is a good player," said the Lyon president.

"All the players of the French team who play abroad interest us."

Saha joined United in a £12.8million deal from Fulham over three years ago, but has endured an injury-plagued career at Old Trafford.

Though he has a fair scoring record for the Premiership leaders - netting 13 times this season - his fitness is reputed to be a concern for Sir Alex Ferguson.

The 28-year-old has made just three substitute appearances in the past two months due to a hamstring problem and could be allowed to move on in the summer.

Source (http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=465178&CPID=24&clid=143&lid=3&title=Lyon+hint+at+Saha+intere st)

[Zoolander]

No rules broken by Manchester United & Everton. From SSN.

[Zoolander]

http://img.alibaba.com/photo/10423956/MOET_CHANDON_Champagne.jpg

Just keep these on ice.

[Zoolander]

http://www.anobyte.com/reviews/images/winrar_boxshot.gif

We are the WinRAR's!!!!!!

[Calzone]

congrats man u

[Sully]

Congrats

[Zoolander]

Honk! Honk! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sogKUx_q7ig)

[Jonno394]

Over teh course of the season; you have deserved this for the quality you have put on display for football fans to see.

However, I think even you can agree that it would have been such an amazing game on wednesday if it was to be decided at old trafford.

[kallum]

Unlucky lads, better luck next season.

:mellow:

[vanNistelrooy]

I've already told you, repeat after me "we're gonna win fuck all". :D
Nice one ;)

CHAMPIONES, CHAMPIONES, OLE OLE OLE!

Looks like we won't have to put up with Moaninho next season ;)

Unlucky lads, better luck next season.

:mellow:
Eh?

[CaptainCabinet]

Congrats on a cracking season lads although, you better watch out for us next season lads.












A man can dream can't he?

[Lami]

However, I think even you can agree that it would have been such an amazing game on wednesday if it was to be decided at old trafford.
True. But unfortunately it won't happen. :cool: Congrats mates! :D

Edit: Unlucky lads, better luck next season.

:mellow::unsure:

[Dr. Bob Kelso]

Nice one ;)

CHAMPIONES, CHAMPIONES, OLE OLE OLE!

Looks like we won't have to put up with Moaninho next season ;)


Eh?

If you give it out you gotta take it.

Hold me hands up.

Congraulations.

I fucking hate you all.

[Viperized]

Congrats on winning the Premiership and I thought it was deserved. You played some good football throughout the course of the season.

But hopefully you won't win it next season. Hopefully its Arsenal. :ninja:

[wrathchild_uk]

Mourinho sayin at the end well done to everyone else for helping utd to win the title :huh:

[vanNistelrooy]

If you give it out you gotta take it.

Hold me hands up.

Congraulations.

I fucking hate you all.
I know you have to, and I'm glad you do otherwise it'd be boring.

We all hate you too ;)

Mourinho sayin at the end well done to everyone else for helping utd to win the title :huh:
Did he?

I suppose SAF should be thanking Moaninho for wasting all his money on Sheva and Ballack when Chelski really needed backup in central defense!

[wrathchild_uk]

Did he?

I suppose SAF should be thanking Moaninho for wasting all his money on Sheva and Ballack when Chelski really needed backup in central defense!

Yea he said that and kept saying how everything went against em, so he's probably basically saying that the FA have helped Utd win it because of the fixtures and some of the refs decisions. He's a good manager but he does talk out of his arse a fair bit..

[Cali]

Really happy that we're finally Prem Champions again. Really happy is a huge understatement. Make's me laugh that when I told my Mate ( Who also supports United ) he just goes "Woo" without any enthusiasm.

We seriously deserved the Title this Season, and that's not being biased at all. And I'm super glad that we've finally gotten our Trophy back!

:D.

[greenegg]

I hate Manure but well done on a deserved title. :(

[Hunter]

I hate Manure but well done on a deserved title. :(

Hearf Ebanks-Blake ws on the scoresheet today :cool:

Cant beleive we won the title, well, I can as we deserced it but its just so amazing to have it back. Overwelmingly amazing.

Cant remember ever using this smile, here :w00t

Another on :w00t

Bottoms up..

[AgentZero]

UNITED......FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!
i was at a social club watching the game hardly any arsenal fans showed up...i could not stop jumping up and down till security told me off

[Lord Shrimpeh]

Glory Glory Man United!

We were brilliant this season. So good to see after 4 years of mostly mediocraty (for us). And to beat Mourinho makes it doubly special! Hopefully this will spur us on to make some great signings in summer and the experience will help us win the Champions League next year.

Never been so glad (or glad at all) for an Arsenal goal.

[Nturtle]

Well done ManU...glad we could help our favorite northern team...

A good run a the start, good form...good finishing...everything Arsenal did NOT have...hah!

Well...finish off Chelsea in the FA cup will ya?

[skullverine]

yes!! I was singing a lot of ManUtd songs to my mate(a chelsea fan) and he got really annoyed with me. Haha

Glory Glory Man United

[Guillermo]

Which chap had the bet with Kelso/Rafalutionary over who would finish higher out of United and Liverpool?

Was it manutd4ever/Rambo?

[vanNistelrooy]

Whoever it was SHAME ON YOU for taking advantage of a silly Liverpool fan who is blinded by their faith.

[ecureuil]

Anyone got any pictures of the lads celebrating at the training ground this morning? They've been showing some of it on Sky Sports News today.

[Top Gun]

I think it was LostGalacticos who made the bet. Not 100% sure though.

Anybody see the cut on Ronaldo's chest after the stamp? They showed it on MOTD2 last night.

[vanNistelrooy]

Nope, any pictures?

[Top Gun]

Nope, any pictures?

I've been trying to find one, it must of been about 6 inches long and probably stung like mad.

[ecureuil]

I've been trying to find one, it must of been about 6 inches long and probably stung like mad.

I'd look too, but I'm too scared to put 'ball stamp' in to google image search. :O

[greenegg]

I've been trying to find one, it must of been about 6 inches long and probably stung like mad.

I deflowered a virgin once who muttered this afterwards :mellow:

[CaptainCabinet]

:laugh:

[Dan]

:laugh:

"Probably" though egg?

[Sully]

Saw your lads on SSN news this morning celebrating like they had won the title or something. Oh wait they did:crymore:

[vanNistelrooy]

Shevchenko is to undergo a hernia operation and will miss the FA Cup Final. Breaking news on Sky Sports just now.

[pesifier]

i thought he had to undergo brain surgery to repair the dead cells in his brain. why did he even come to chelsea?

[vanNistelrooy]

To win things obviously. Every professional footballer in the world would rather win the Carling Cup than the Champions League.

Duh.

[pesifier]

i dont think shevchenko was the kind of striker Mourinho had in mind. they need a striker with high stamina and willingness to close down the opposition on their own half. the premier leagues reguires physical toughness that sheva dont have, he is too slow for the english league

[-The Trooper-]

Did you even know who Shevchenko was before he moved to Chelsea? Granted the English leauge is "faster" than the Itallian leauge but Shevchenko was no slouch.

Look on youtube for his goal vs Lyon in last years champions leauge - his pace is mind blowing.

[pesifier]

yes of course, i knew who sheva was. i am just saying he is getting old and it takes some time to adjust to another environment and a new playing style. have you seen him in CL matches, he is useless and drogba had a monsterous season that overshadowed sheva. he is not a right winger or a suporting striker. i think he should go back to italy but milan wont buy him back now that they have ronaldo and play one striker. maybe juve will buy him. i am pretty sure abram wanted him and his wife is american so she may like england.

[-The Trooper-]

A.C. Milan play 4 - 1 - 2 - 1 - 2 with Ronaldo and another striker upfront - the same when Shevchenko was there...

Drogba has a had a good season, his previous was poor - much like this season for Shevchenko. Coupled with a knee injury and playing at the World Cup the guy is probably knackerd.

[pesifier]

and how do u know that milan will play two strikers upfront rather than 4-5-1 formation they have been playin in this season.

[-The Trooper-]

Ronaldo - Gilardino - Inzaghi. why would you only play one of these upfront? Im sure an AC Milan fan on here (Sweey - NY Red Bulls) will back me up on this - the majority of this season they have been playing 4 - 1 - 2 - 1 -2.

[pesifier]

i admitt that they have plenty of reasonable top strikers but inzaghi is gettin old and gilardino is inconsistent. ronaldo is prone to injury and plus these three players i think they have borriello and why do u think milan would buy him back? when they need young and solid players

[-The Trooper-]

Quote me when I said they should buy him back. I want him to stay at Chelsea.

[Guillermo]

Sir Alex Ferguson has identified three players he wants to sign for Manchester United before the start of next season.
"We've outlined three targets and chief executive David Gill is aware of them," said the United manager.

"When there is competition for the best players, it costs, so we will just have to wait and see."

The Premiership champions have been linked to Bayern Munich midfielder Owen Hargreaves, Southampton defender Gareth Bale and Spurs striker Dmitar Berbatov.

But Ferguson expressed his concern that United could be outbid by Chelsea if the London club moved for one of the players the Scot wants to sign.

"Manchester United has always been an attraction," added Ferguson, who has led United to nine top-flight titles.

"We have 76,000 people watching us every week and have a celebrity status, which means we are known throughout the world.

"It is not a question of attracting players. The real competition comes when Chelsea pay £27m for someone like Michael Essien. They can outbid us all."



I hope he doesn't get any of them. It'd be like 50m for all 3, ridiculous. I really do hope he has other targets.

[pesifier]

but i am just asking do u think sheva would play better with another lone striker or a part of a three man attacking system chelsea plays

[-The Trooper-]

Haribo - Silly old fool - Essien was £24 mil. :huh:

Pesifier - He plays better in a partnership with another striker - like at Milan. I think Joel noticed Drgoba plays better with Shevchenko and Shevchenko plays better without Drogba so at Chelsea i'd play him upfront with J.Cole/Robben.

Thats forgetting that Drogba has been in awesome form - so Shevchenko - Drogba up front is fine as it is.

[Calzone]

I hope he doesn't get any of them. It'd be like 50m for all 3, ridiculous. I really do hope he has other targets.

I prey that berbatov stays at tottenham.

[Top Gun]

I hope he doesn't get any of them. It'd be like 50m for all 3, ridiculous. I really do hope he has other targets.

I wouldn't mind Berbatov although he will be expensive. I'm hoping the three targets are Huntelaar, Sneijder and a right/center back.

[Lami]

Im one who'd like to see Berbatov join.

[Zoolander]

I made this bad boy.

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/5276/ballzc1.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[Calzone]

Ronaldo got back at him with making ball concede the the pk...yeah

[vanNistelrooy]

I wouldn't mind Berbatov either, but it looks like Sneijder will go to Valencia (who are interested), if anywhere.

[ecureuil]

We have no chance of getting Berbatov. We missed our chance on him last year.

[executioner]

The thing with hardgreaves is that while he is a good player, our midfield is now fletcher, giggs, ronaldo, park, scholes, carrick, richardson, eagles, and occassionally smith. Untill the likes of scholes or giggs retire, i think our midfield is pretty damn strong, and we're better off playing with what we have untill we only have that option.

We had a makeshift defence for the last stretch of the season, and the fact we still have some defenders is just a bit....iffy. I'd rather sell on Heinze and Silverstre and buy someone a bit more solid.

And as far as upfront is concerned, i'd rather give smudger and Sahahahaha another shot before shipping them away.

[Lami]

Pique should be returning for next season no?

[vanNistelrooy]

He is, I read it on the Utd website.

He's looked very good when I've seen him play for Zaragoza, hopefully this'll rub off for his Utd career.

[Lami]

Yes he did. Watched a couple of Zaragoza games myself and he looked fine. Still the premier league is much physical. Lets hope he's up for the challenge.

[ecureuil]

http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/premiership/article2521670.ece

Looks like the Hargreaves transfer isn't quite set in stone. I still expect us to get him, though.

The interesting part is the last paragraph about Saha. It's looking more likely now that he'll be on his way in the summer. It wouldn't be the worst thing, to be honest.

[AgentZero]

Pique to return and i beg saf to keep smudger here...statistically all of our leeds player become 1st team regulars...Rio, Eric just to name a few

[castrometal]

is Larsson still in Manchester Utd??

[Miggy]

is Larsson still in Manchester Utd??

Nope.

[Jonny2J]

Pique to return and i beg saf to keep smudger here...statistically all of our leeds player become 1st team regulars...Rio, Eric just to name a fewDifference being they're both a lot higher caliber player than Smudger, and I do say that begrudgingly with that overrated waster Ferdinand.

If you're going to use a statistic like that, then I can say all of the black players we've signed from Ipswich have all turned out to be bling bling tossers who need a rifle to their heads. ;)

[Guillermo]

Man Utd are close to pulling out of buying Owen Hargreaves from Bayern Munich as the German club have upped their price for the England man. (Various papers)

That'd be grand. :w00t

The only players I want rid of this summer are Richardson and Saha.

[wrathchild_uk]

Not sure about Sneijder as i doubt utd would go in for him and i'm not really sure if he'd be all that good anyway, ok he plays for Ajax but it is the dutch league were talkin about and look at some of the players who have come from holland to the prem in the last couple of seasons and not exactly done that well...

[Joel]

Not sure about Sneijder as i doubt utd would go in for him and i'm not really sure if he'd be all that good anyway, ok he plays for Ajax but it is the dutch league were talkin about and look at some of the players who have come from holland to the prem in the last couple of seasons and not exactly done that well...

Or you could look at Ruud van Nistlerooy...Robin van Persie...Arjen Robben (when he feels like it).

[Jonny2J]

Or you could look at Ruud van Nistlerooy...Robin van Persie...Arjen Robben (when he feels like it).Overmars, Stam etc

[Joel]

Overmars, Stam etc

Well he did say last couple of seasons ;)

[wrathchild_uk]

Or Kezman, Bouma, Oojer, Beasley, Park, Kalou and probably even Robben at times, besides Ferguson doesn't seem to get on all to well with Dutch players as seen with Stam & Rvn :P

[vanNistelrooy]

Kuyt hasn't done too bad.

Wesley's too good not to make an impact here, trust me ;)

[wrathchild_uk]

Changing the subject abit but has anyone seen Utd's home kit for next season?

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/3844/54cm2x4pl3.jpg

[ecureuil]

Not sure about Sneijder as i doubt utd would go in for him and i'm not really sure if he'd be all that good anyway, ok he plays for Ajax but it is the dutch league were talkin about and look at some of the players who have come from holland to the prem in the last couple of seasons and not exactly done that well...

What!! Dutch players are the best, they nearly always do well over here. Mainly because the weather in Holland is colder than here, so they don't have the problem with coping with the weather like South American and Spanish players do. For any team, getting a Dutch player is a fairly safe bet.

[vanNistelrooy]

Changing the subject abit but has anyone seen Utd's home kit for next season?

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/3844/54cm2x4pl3.jpg
Yep, you just showed me!?

Duh.

[wrathchild_uk]

Yep, you just showed me!?

Duh.

That was the idea.. ;)

[skullverine]

I thought it was the same picture as the one shown in RedCafe except this was zoomed out. It looks like the red GK Nike kit when it was zoomed in, so most likely fake.

[Top Gun]

If Smith gets back to his best then he would easily be good enough for the first team. Get rid of Saha and bring in a back-up striker and it should be fine especially with Solskjaer as extra back-up.

What does everyone think is going to happen to Rossi when he comes back? He has been alright for Parma but I don't think that he has developed well enough for us, maybe another season out on loan in Italy.

[Guillermo]

Paris Saint Germain starlet Youssouf Mulumbu is content with life at Parc des Princes, despite claiming that Manchester United have been in contact with him.

The 20-year-old - who is playing in his first season as a professional - has emerged as a promising prospect for Paul Le Guen having played 15 times this term.

United boss Sir Alex Ferguson is an admirer of the versatile performer, according to Mulumbu himself, along with European giants Juventus and Valencia.

However, PSG's DR Congo-born midfielder admits he is happy with the chance handed to him by the French club ahead of proposed talks over his future.

"It is always nice to play regularly for every club, but it is more encouraging when it is for PSG," Mulumbu told But.

"It is not easy to trust youngsters here, so I can't show bad performances like I did at Toulouse.

"Manchester United, Juventus and Valencia are still following my performances, they keep on contacting me.

"But they know that since I signed a professional contract, it is more difficult for them.

"Regarding my future I don't know what I will do. We will sit down and discuss it with my agent and the coach. It is really encouraging to be followed by such clubs.

"The most important thing for me is to play, and I can't complain because I have played nearly 20 times and it is only my first pro season. I am proud."

Meanwhile, PSG will be without Pierre-Alain Frau for the remainder of the season after the striker suffered a muscle injury in his foot.

The capital club are currently seven points clear of the danger zone with three games to go, but Frau will be unable to assist their bid for salvation after an MRI scan confirmed he will be sidelined for a month.



Can't say I know him. :huh:

[vanNistelrooy]

Rossi has done pretty well for Parma, I say atleast give the kid a proper chance.

[Jonny2J]

Rossi has done pretty well for Parma, I say atleast give the kid a proper chance.He was poor for us to say the least.

[vanNistelrooy]

Rossi has done pretty well for Parma, I say atleast give to kid a proper chance.

[Viperized]

Overmars, Stam etc
OMG. NO ONE HAS MENTIONED BERGKAMP! POSSIBLY THE BEST PLAYER TO GRACE THE PREMIERSHIP.

;o

[Joel]

OMG. NO ONE HAS MENTIONED BERGKAMP! POSSIBLY THE BEST PLAYER TO GRACE THE PREMIERSHIP.

;o

He went to Italy before he came to the Premiership ;)

[vanNistelrooy]

OMG. NO ONE HAS MENTIONED BERGKAMP! POSSIBLY THE BEST PLAYER TO GRACE THE PREMIERSHIP.

;o
The same Bergkamp that fluffed an injury time penalty in an FA Cup Semi Final to help us go on and complete our historic treble?

Yeah I like him :blush:

[Viperized]

Everyone makes mistakes. :P

[castrometal]

Nope.

when did he leave and where did he go??

[Zoolander]

March 12 & Helsingborgs IF.

[AgentZero]

whats this ive heard of miguel owen

[Zoolander]

He apparently he has a release clause in his contract. Well played by Newcastle again.