Manchester United

[AgentZero]

Anyone know when Ando, Nani and Hargreaves will be presented to the public? And this supposed new kit when are they unveiling it?

[Phatmann]

Hargreaves signs on July 1st so I imagine he'll be presented then. Not sure about the rest. Doesn't Anderson still need to sort out a work permit?

[AgentZero]

i think its been passed and cleared, nothing of any stallings in the Anderson deal has been reported on manutd.com

[Phatmann]

Apparently he is in Brazils Copa America squad. I hope he plays most of the time as I will be looking out for him :)
Brazil v Mexico 27/6/07
Brazil v Chile 1/7/07
Brazil v Ecuador 4/7/07

Tournament finishes 15th July, so if Brazil get to the final, it's likely Anderson will be presented some time shortly after that date but I doubt he'll be going on our pre-season tour of the far east :huh:

[AgentZero]

whend does the window closes?

[Phatmann]

whend does the window closes?

Transfer window closes 31st August.

[AgentZero]

oh brilliant. Well nuff time to sort out the tits and tats

[Jonny2J]

Hargreaves signs on July 1st so I imagine he'll be presented then. Not sure about the rest. Doesn't Anderson still need to sort out a work permit?Of course he'll get it sorted out, he's going to Man Utd not Man City.

[Phatmann]

Of course he'll get it sorted out, he's going to Man Utd not Man City.

Celio Silva? :)

[7ames]

oh brilliant. Well nuff time to sort out the tits and tats

Nani's a tit, anderson is tat.

Bang bang, business done.

[AgentZero]

ahahaha cheeky.

[7ames]

ahahaha cheeky.

sorry, it was too obvious not to do...

[AgentZero]

whitlow: Gudjohnsen ideal for United (http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={F9E570E6-407E-44BC-800F-4A3110258114}&newsid=439527&page=1)
thoughts?

[Stormrider]

I wouldn't mind if the price is right. He's a great team player.

[Guillermo]

Gudjohnsen is not what we need at all.

[AgentZero]

dont you just love the notion of hijacking the torres deal, piss them scousers right off

[Wan]

I think current Man O.O striker is good enough now..
Rooney, Saha, Solksjaer, Rossi & Dong..

[Zoolander]

dont you just love the notion of hijacking the torres deal, piss them scousers right off

How I would love that! If I owned a club i'd be a prick & bid just to jack the price up.!

[AgentZero]

ahahha i bet your them pricks on ebay.

[Zoolander]

ahahha i bet your them pricks on ebay.

:D

[otobot]

I think current Man O.O striker is good enough now..
Rooney, Saha, Solksjaer, Rossi & Dong..

umm...no...saha n ole r always injured, rossi n dong r not proven...which leaves rooney, who isnt really a goal machine...he does have his spells, 3 hat-tricks last season i believe, or 2...but he has his dry spells either...n i see him more of a support striker than your main striker

[AgentZero]

Anderson played in the 2nd half against mejico. Looks quite tantalising for next season!

[ecureuil]

Yeah Anderson looked quality last night. Definitely looks like he has what it takes.

[Hunter]

Gudjohnson will only have a few years in him, and as for Torres, well he's good but he's not worth the price tag. Therefore I think the best buy at the moment, would be Huntelaar, who's a natural scorer, and cheaper than Torres.

[otobot]

how bout that fabio guy? he really not an option anymore?

[Wan]

well, he is now owned by Udinese & I don't think they will sell him..

[Zoolander]

Man Utd face Anderson permit wait


Anderson may have to wait before moving to Old Trafford
Manchester United's new Brazilian signing Anderson is facing work permit problems and may have to wait a year before he can play for the club.

United agreed a deal with Porto in early June to sign the 19-year-old.

But Anderson does not have enough caps for Brazil to satisfy Home Office rules and his first application was refused.

United lodged an appeal on Thursday - with a verdict expected within 48 hours - but if that fails they cannot reapply until next year.

Anderson needs to have played in 75% of Brazil's international fixtures in the previous two years to meet Home Office criteria.

The Premier League champion's solicitor, Maurice Watkins, asked the six-man panel to consider Anderson as a special case.

Anderson has described the proposed move to Old Trafford as "a dream come true".

He said: "I cannot wait to play in the same team as Cristiano Ronaldo, who is a great player, as well as Wayne Rooney and many more."

His move to United was announced at the same time as Sporting Lisbon youngster Nani, who as a Portuguese citizen has no work permit problems.

Source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6252368.stm)

:huh:

[Jonny2J]

It's Man Utd there'll be no trouble.

[otobot]

i believe its...its man utd, there will be trouble

[wrathchild_uk]

Was trying to think of other Brazilian's who have managed to get work permits but barely played for Brazil...like Edu and Rochemback....how would he of got one...unless he's got a spannish passport???

[Zoolander]

We got the permit!

[skullverine]

I guess the home kit with the white strip on the back is real. The GK kit looks great
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7998/newsigniz9.jpg

got that on RedCafe.

[CaptainCabinet]

:laugh:

[skullverine]

:laugh:

fuck. I copied the wrong link. Here's the real one
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4518/newhomekitkt1.jpg

[CaptainCabinet]

Ok, that one looks more real.

[Cali]

how bout that fabio guy? he really not an option anymore?

Quagliarella has been captured by Udinese from his co-ownership. He may still be avalaible though, but with Udinese losing Iaquinta, I cannot see him leaving.

We got the Permit!

Damn right we have. Excellent news.

And Meecrob, that kit looks nice actually. I'll be sure to invest in it sooner rather then Later. I'll probably opt to having either Nani or Anderson on the Back :cool:.

I see that apparently we are going to offer Newcastle Alan Smith and £4m for Owen... :no:. I really hope Owen doesn't come to United, as I would prefer someone like Tevez much more. There is no doubt that Michael Owen is a class act, but also get's injured a hell of a lot.

[Sully]

Well if he can get the work permit shirley we will be able to obtain one for Alex now

[skullverine]

I'll probably buy the new home kit, depending on how the away kit looks like. If they sell it with player's name, I will opt on either Vidic or Heinze (if he stays)

good news on Anderson, was worried that he could only play for us next year

[ecureuil]

I see that apparently we are going to offer Newcastle Alan Smith and £4m for Owen... :no:. I really hope Owen doesn't come to United, as I would prefer someone like Tevez much more. There is no doubt that Michael Owen is a class act, but also get's injured a hell of a lot.

There are better players to get, but Smith is so ineffective for us, it would be like getting Owen for £4mil, which is a steal!

[Cali]

There are better players to get, but Smith is so ineffective for us, it would be like getting Owen for £4mil, which is a steal!

No, I wouldn't go as far as calling Smith ineffective.

Alan Smith is a good all-round player, who can, as you know, play in midfield aswell. He's very handy, and can also score goals. Based on this Season performances from him, he hasn't been as effective as beforehand. If we had to sell a Striker I too, would wan't Alan to go as I feel Saha would be a handy Player to have when he's gotten over his Injury proneness ( Which could be never, to tell the truth ).

Yes, Owen would be a steal for £4m, but he's just as injury prone as Saha I would say. If Saha stayed fit and played, he would score 20+ goals a Season. Same with Owen, but I to be honest with you, cannot see either of them staying fit a whole Season anytime soon. I would much rather have Eidur Gudjohnson or Carlos Tevez with the Team. Gudjohnson is a good Player, he can score goals and hardly ever put's in a real bad performance. Tevez, well, he was World Class when he adapted to the English Footballing Style with The Hammers, and he would be the best choice out of the three now.

Now, to another Player we have been strongly linked with; Jermain Defoe. Defoe really didn't get that much of a chance to prove that he is one of the best strikers in the Premiership at Spurs. He would be a good signing aswell, as I think that he can get the job done. He has a great shot on him, and is also very quick and can beat defenders. He could be a hit or a miss, though. But I'm thinking more of that he would be a hit at Old Trafford.

[Top Gun]

From those kits which are posted the blue keeper kit looks the nicest, reminds me of the one we had a few seasons back.

On the striker front this is the order I would take them in,

Tevez
Huntelaar
Owen
Torres
Defoe
Gudjohnson

[Zoolander]

Eidur Gudjohnson isn't a 20+ man though. He drops off too much.

The Hunter is what we need.

[Guillermo]

I see we're all in agreement over Huntelaar. Let's start a petition and send it on to David Gill :ninja:

[AgentZero]

im bloody stoked about teh kit + ando...
weird story last nigth i dreamt thta Gabby Heinze transfered to Real Sociedad :huh:

[Stormrider]

Dunno how you guys can like the aig kit. Its so plain. I still walk around in my Vodafone kit :cool:

Good news about the permit, really looking forward to next season :happy:

[wrathchild_uk]

Think it would be abit of a risk signing Owen and letting Smith go....as we'd then have Saha & Owen (two of the most injury prone strikers in world football)

[Top Gun]

Think it would be abit of a risk signing Owen and letting Smith go....as we'd then have Saha & Owen (two of the most injury prone strikers in world football)

Not to mention Solksjaer. Most of Owen's injuries seem to be freak one's like the one he got in the World Cup. At Newcastle there was some myth about the pitch as loads of players were getting hamstring injuries so maybe that explains some of his injuries.

[wrathchild_uk]

Maybe so as half of the Newcastle squad seem to be injured every season...but i always remember Owen getting injured at Liverpool. Saha is just a waste of space!

[AgentZero]

the new kit look liverpoolish...or is that just me?

[Guillermo]

the new kit look liverpoolish...or is that just me?

I wouldn't say you looked Liverpoolish at all.

[AgentZero]

oh thank god, i am wearing the hood in my hoodie atm.

[skullverine]

the new kit look liverpoolish...or is that just me?

yeah, looks pretty similar to their last kit with reebok (if I remember correctly)

wish it has some white or black on the collar or sleeve.

Did we ever have a blue GK kit before?

[Cali]

Yeah, it does look a bit like their old kit.

But, personally I think that the plain look look's nice. They should maybe add some sort of colouring of white or black on the sleeve or collar, though. I like the plain look of the kit, and whatever it looks like I'll still buy it.

[AgentZero]

tehre will be white stripes on the back aswell.

[Guillermo]

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/06_03/rooney290607_468x338.jpg

[AgentZero]

no!!

[Dmitris]

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/06_03/rooney290607_468x338.jpg

Chhhhhhhhhreck!

[Hunter]

no!!

Probably a good thing to be honest. He was never really a number 8.

Anderson = 8
Nani = 17
Rooney = 10
Hargreaves = ?

[AgentZero]

imo
8= Hargreaves
17=Nani
30=Anderson

[mufcsean]

Has the new kits been revealed yet? If so can somebody post pictures

[Barry]

I see we're all in agreement over Huntelaar. Let's start a petition and send it on to David Gill :ninja:

Dream on ;)

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4518/newhomekitkt1.jpg

That was on the last page mufcsean, not sure if it's official?

[mufcsean]

Thankyou ;)

[skullverine]

Haribo, that looks like the old premiership font.

I don't like plain kits, it's just a simple red shirt, with a ManUtd badge and AIG sponsor, which I think, is a rip off.

[Zoolander]

Rooney - 10
Huntelaar - 9

:w00t

[wrathchild_uk]

Old font because there holding up last seasons shirt, Hargreaves is gonna be number 8 accourding to most football sites. Theres also some reports saying that Silvestre is on his way out as he's not to be seen in that team kit photo..

[skullverine]

Didn't believe the photo at first, but I checked at soccernet, and it's true

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=442466&cc=4716

[AgentZero]

why don you open manutd.com...its headline story. I think every signle one of us should buy the kit. Remember without money glazer cant pay of his debt.

[Hunter]

why don you open manutd.com...its headline story. I think every signle one of us should buy the kit. Remember without money glazer cant pay of his debt.

I'll re-phrase that for you:

"Buy the kit if you want, even if it looks naff. Remember without money, us, the fans, can't pay off the debt Glazer dumped on us."

There you go mate.

[AgentZero]

ye....you get the gist

[Jesus]

Since Ruud left I wanted Rooney to get the number 10.(or 9)
IMO:
Nani-17
Hardgreaves-8
Anderson-12?

[wrathchild_uk]

Its not to bad i mean Utd are only having another home kit because last years was to do with the busby babes. Half of the prem teams have a new kit every year now anyway...

[Jesus]

Oh Fuck
Liverpool are reportedly ready to rival Juventus for the signature of Gabriel Heinze, but the Manchester United defender is remaining tight-lipped about his future until after the Copa America.

Source (http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=474481&CPID=8&clid=14&lid=&title=Reds+enter+Heinze+race&channel=&)

[AgentZero]

lets hope he stays because Silvestre is apparently on his way out.

[Hunter]

Just got a letter through the door today stating I can get a ST if wanted, seems the 10 year waiting list is all bollocks after all. I didn't apply that long ago, must be true as well, about 8,000 ST holders declining the renewal as they seem to be clutching at straws to drag people through the gates.

To be honest, if you're a member with a membership number (obviously) you'll be able to just ring up and ask for a ST. All you'll need to do is say you've got your Credit Card in front of you and you're prepared to buy and they'll probably bite your hand off. Was reading Red Cafe earlier, and apparently people have just been scamming the ST's, saying they received this ST letter when they actually haven't. You need some proof to back your claim but if anyone wants the proof, I'm sure I can be of service since I won't be getting one anytime soon. The cheapest now is £570 but that's pretty much automatically doubled to about £1000 if you include the conning Cup Scheme, whereby you're given tickets and charged whether you want to go or not.

Anywho, ring up, and get a ST (if you're rich).

0870 442 1999

[AgentZero]

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/4487/74965414uq7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Shot at 2007-07-01
need piccies people!

[skullverine]

I hope the away kit won't have the stripe on the back

[Phatmann]

Just got a letter through the door today stating I can get a ST if wanted, seems the 10 year waiting list is all bollocks after all. I didn't apply that long ago, must be true as well, about 8,000 ST holders declining the renewal as they seem to be clutching at straws to drag people through the gates.

To be honest, if you're a member with a membership number (obviously) you'll be able to just ring up and ask for a ST. All you'll need to do is say you've got your Credit Card in front of you and you're prepared to buy and they'll probably bite your hand off. Was reading Red Cafe earlier, and apparently people have just been scamming the ST's, saying they received this ST letter when they actually haven't. You need some proof to back your claim but if anyone wants the proof, I'm sure I can be of service since I won't be getting one anytime soon. The cheapest now is £570 but that's pretty much automatically doubled to about £1000 if you include the conning Cup Scheme, whereby you're given tickets and charged whether you want to go or not.

Anywho, ring up, and get a ST (if you're rich).

0870 442 1999

Very interesting.

[AgentZero]

I hope the away kit won't have the stripe on the back

it does, check out the new kits thread. I posted of the example given by the manutd megastore

[Top Gun]

Manchester United have completed the triple signing of Nani, Anderson and Tomasz Kuszczak.

Both Nani and Anderson have signed five-year-deals with the Barclays Premier League champions, joining from Sporting Lisbon and Porto respectively.

The permanent transfer of Polish goalkeeper Kuszczak comes after the completion of a loan season from West Bromwich Albion last term.

Nani, Anderson and fellow new arrival Owen Hargreaves will be officially unveiled to the press in the near future.

Meanwhile, Academy scholars James Chester, Richard Eckersley and Sam Hewson have signed professional forms with United, as has Academy student Tom Cleverley.

.

[Wan]

hmm..
the academy student thing might be interesting..

[Hunter]

Excellent news here, possibly greater than the 3 signings this summer:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=46 6047&in_page_id=1779

[Phatmann]

Excellent news here, possibly greater than the 3 signings this summer:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=46 6047&in_page_id=1779

£2.5m, what is Keano doing??? :mellow:

[Barry]

Haha, he must be on dogfood.

[Viperized]

Just got a letter through the door today stating I can get a ST if wanted, seems the 10 year waiting list is all bollocks after all. I didn't apply that long ago, must be true as well, about 8,000 ST holders declining the renewal as they seem to be clutching at straws to drag people through the gates.

To be honest, if you're a member with a membership number (obviously) you'll be able to just ring up and ask for a ST. All you'll need to do is say you've got your Credit Card in front of you and you're prepared to buy and they'll probably bite your hand off. Was reading Red Cafe earlier, and apparently people have just been scamming the ST's, saying they received this ST letter when they actually haven't. You need some proof to back your claim but if anyone wants the proof, I'm sure I can be of service since I won't be getting one anytime soon. The cheapest now is £570 but that's pretty much automatically doubled to about £1000 if you include the conning Cup Scheme, whereby you're given tickets and charged whether you want to go or not.

Anywho, ring up, and get a ST (if you're rich).

0870 442 1999
£1000 for a ST? That is a lot cheaper than what you can get at the Emirates stadium.

[Wan]

Richardson he should leave with Nani can play at wing..

[AgentZero]

why is keano raiding us?

[CaptainCabinet]

Because he needs to survive, and he'd rather have a team where he knows the ins and outs of the players from his time at your club, rather than a team of hit and misses.

[Hunter]

£1000 for a ST? That is a lot cheaper than what you can get at the Emirates stadium.

Doesn't mean it's cheap, it's a pure scam to be fair, and it's quite ridiculous. We didn't sell out quite a few matches last year, and now to increase the pricing and implementing such cons as the Home Cup Ticket Scheme is not only a disgrace, it's an embarrassment to football. Having to pay for cup matches automatically whether you can even go or not is pathetic. I also read yestersay that the season before Glazer arrived, 0.5% of ST holders didn't renew. Whereas that figure now stands at 14%, with around 8,000 fans reportedly not renewing due to several reasons.

If they don't lower the prices and remove the gay Cup scheme, then I'm afraid Old Trafford will barely see a sell out stadium. Something must have gone drastically wrong if the Champions are having fans spit their tickets back at the club.

[AgentZero]

Because he needs to survive, and he'd rather have a team where he knows the ins and outs of the players from his time at your club, rather than a team of hit and misses.
well thats pretty valid. Although we hate him round these parts he showed what he can do withing a modest club.

[Phatmann]

well thats pretty valid. Although we hate him round these parts he showed what he can do withing a modest club.

We hate Keano? :mellow:

[mufcsean]

Who hates Keano?

[Scarface]

We hate Keano? :mellow:

I think he's talking about Kieran Richardson.

[Guillermo]

Possible new bet for next season suggested by Ronaldo:

If Cristiano fails to net 20 goals next season, he'll shave his head. If he nets 20 or more, Fergie's head will be shaved.

:laugh: :huh:

[Phatmann]

I think he's talking about Kieran Richardson.

That's fair enough then :)

:laugh: @ Haribo.

[Hunter]

20 League goals, so I expect to see Ronnie with a slaphead in a year or so. I think he's capable of netting 20 goals in all competitions but the Prem alone is too much to ask. However it would be hilarious seeing Fergie with a bald head, not sure whether he'd agree to it though.

[Phatmann]

It's certainly a more interesting bet than they had last year with the winner getting £100 :mellow:

[mufcsean]

Wasn't it £400?

[Yossi]

Apparently, because Ferguson is mates Jim Duffy and Bryan Gunn, Norwich are supposedly going to be the new Sunderland in terms of being the Championship team to get the good Man Utd loanees. Nice if true I suppose.

[Stella Artois]

Not really, because then you'll become like Birmingham and have a dependency on players whose future you cannot control.

[Phatmann]

Apparently, because Ferguson is mates Jim Duffy and Bryan Gunn, Norwich are supposedly going to be the new Sunderland in terms of being the Championship team to get the good Man Utd loanees. Nice if true I suppose.

I heard it was gonna be Stoke :erm:

[Yossi]

Not really, because then you'll become like Birmingham and have a dependency on players whose future you cannot control.
Every club in the Championship has a few loanees though, and if they were Man Utd youngsters, chances are they'd be good. And if like Birmingham, we were to go up, then we would have the money to buy new ones anyway.
I heard it was gonna be Stoke
Maybe, but Ferguson and Gunny go back years to the point when Gunny used to babysit Ferguson's kids. Ferguson is also rather kind to Gunny in his leukaemia appeals too.

[AgentZero]

We hate Keano? :mellow:

talkin about kiero

[mufcsean]

Have Nani, Anderson and Hargreaves been shown off yet

[Zoolander]

Nike Video Rooney (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mGdQwyyXx4E) - They must have used special effects to make Manchester seem sunny.

[mufcsean]

Thats quite good

[AgentZero]

wayne needs to lose the beard

[ecureuil]

Errr.. we have signed Tevez apparently. Make of these what you will..

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/sport/article-23402979-details/Fergie+signs+Tevez/article.do?ito=newsnow&

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=46 6284&in_page_id=1779&ito=newsnow

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premiership/article2029349.ece

Is this for real??

[Zoolander]

A little bit of sexwee came out then.

[ecureuil]

I won't believe it yet, but that seems quite legit.

[AgentZero]

im feelin rather giddy

[skullverine]

Possible new bet for next season suggested by Ronaldo:

If Cristiano fails to net 20 goals next season, he'll shave his head. If he nets 20 or more, Fergie's head will be shaved.

:laugh: :huh:

well, better be prepared to see Ronaldo getting more greedier next season.

[Hunter]

Errr.. we have signed Tevez apparently. Make of these what you will..

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/sport/article-23402979-details/Fergie+signs+Tevez/article.do?ito=newsnow&

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=46 6284&in_page_id=1779&ito=newsnow

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premiership/article2029349.ece

Is this for real??

I'd rather have Huntelaar I think. We all know Tevez is an excellent player, but he's not the out-and-out striker that United are craving at the moment. I'm not sure whether he can get the 20+ Premier League goals we need, or whether he's just a 15 goal man. I guess it's all about teamwork though, and if he can link up with everyone else then he can be capable of it. He has the skill to do amazing things, so maybe he has the skill to turn himself into an out-and-out striker. Let us hope so.

[CaptainCabinet]

I'd rather have Huntelaar I think. We all know Tevez is an excellent player, but he's not the out-and-out striker that United are craving at the moment. I'm not sure whether he can get the 20+ Premier League goals we need, or whether he's just a 15 goal man. I guess it's all about teamwork though, and if he can link up with everyone else then he can be capable of it. He has the skill to do amazing things, so maybe he has the skill to turn himself into an out-and-out striker. Let us hope so.

Thank you. Jesus Christ. You have Rooney to play that "support striker" if you will. You don't have anyone, who is out and out. Rep for you sir.

[Hunter]

Thank you. Jesus Christ. You have Rooney to play that "support striker" if you will. You don't have anyone, who is out and out. Rep for you sir.

Danke Schon.

We have Solskjaer who's out-and-out, but we all know he'll last another season before he either gets injured again or leaves to join Sunderland with Keano. Shame, but his time has gone and past. Saha can bag goals but has legs as durable as balsa wood broomsticks, whilst no one really knows what position Alan Smith even plays. Rooney is a SS as you've said, Rossi is likely to be sold however I'd like to see him get a run here and Dong Fangzhou was purely bought for marketing schemes.

[CaptainCabinet]

Danke Schon.

We have Solskjaer who's out-and-out, but we all know he'll last another season before he either gets injured again or leaves to join Sunderland with Keano. Shame, but his time has gone and past. Saha can bag goals but has legs as durable as balsa wood broomsticks, whilst no one really knows what position Alan Smith even plays. Rooney is a SS as you've said, Rossi is likely to be sold however I'd like to see him get a run here and Dong Fangzhou was purely bought for marketing schemes.

If I could sex you via the computer I would now be doing so. How is it that some of your fans, not necessarily anyone on here, are too blind to see that you don't have the type of striker your club should?

P.S. You can have Kanu for 18m if you'd like?

[Cobinho]

Tevez can play as an "out and out striker". He is good with his back to goal and finishes well, he could be a good partner for Rooney. A team like Man Utd don't need a 20 goal striker anyway, they have goalscorers all over the pitch.

[Barry]

So much for "I'll decide my future after the Copa".

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={B4CEE8FA-9A47-47BC-B069-3F7A2F35DB70}&newsid=441645

Not terribly confirming, but it's something.

[Miggy]

Rather he went to you guys then to Madrid :)

[CaptainCabinet]

Tevez can play as an "out and out striker". He is good with his back to goal and finishes well, he could be a good partner for Rooney. A team like Man Utd don't need a 20 goal striker anyway, they have goalscorers all over the pitch.

No he can't, it's been tried, fairly unsuccessfully. I would find examples but quite frankly I'm too lazy. Though I do agree with Man Utd having goal scorers all over the pitch I pose this to you: Goal scorers all over the pitch, or goal scorers all over the pitch + a 20 goal a season man?

[Hunter]

If I could sex you via the computer I would now be doing so. How is it that some of your fans, not necessarily anyone on here, are too blind to see that you don't have the type of striker your club should?

P.S. You can have Kanu for 18m if you'd like?

Got protection ?

I'm sure Kanu could bag more goals than half the strikers we have here, but £18m is a little steep, maybe knock £2m off and you have yourself a deal. ;)

I pose this to you: Goal scorers all over the pitch, or goal scorers all over the pitch + a 20 goal a season man?

Even Homer Simpson could work that one out.

[CaptainCabinet]

Got protection ?

I'm sure Kanu could bag more goals than half the strikers we have here, but £18m is a little steep, maybe knock £2m off and you have yourself a deal. ;)

Deal, I'll ring ole Hazza and we'll be in touch.

And yes ;) My firewall is excellent :mellow:

[Miggy]

http://www.ellenvandenberg.nl/images/ruud.jpg

[Cobinho]

No he can't, it's been tried, fairly unsuccessfully. I would find examples but quite frankly I'm too lazy. Though I do agree with Man Utd having goal scorers all over the pitch I pose this to you: Goal scorers all over the pitch, or goal scorers all over the pitch + a 20 goal a season man?

He was often the main striker for Boca and always the main striker for Corinnthians so I think its not laziness that is the cause of your inability to find examples. My point about this 20 goal a season striker is that to a team like Man Utd its not of primary importance as it would be to a team who dont have as much attacking quality throughout thier team. Chelsea won the league twice without that a 20 goal striker and Man Utd done the same this year.

[CaptainCabinet]

He was often the main striker for Boca and always the main striker for Corinnthians so I think its not laziness that is the cause of your inability to find examples. My point about this 20 goal a season striker is that to a team like Man Utd its not of primary importance as it would be to a team who dont have as much attacking quality throughout thier team. Chelsea won the league twice without that a 20 goal striker and Man Utd done the same this year.

Nilmar was played as the original ST at Corinthians with Tevez forming a supporting role, yes he scored more but that is not my point.

Chelsea won the league twice without that a 20 goal striker
Right, Drogba?

[Guillermo]

Right, Drogba?

10 Prem goals first year, 12 in the second.

In another news, Real Madrid are apparently poaching our 'highly regarded' fitness coach Valter di Salvo.

EDIT: I know. ¬_¬

[CaptainCabinet]

10 Prem goals first year, 12 in the second.

:blush: Fair enough, then I do apologise.

Haribo you're an arse.

[Cobinho]

Nilmar was played as the original ST at Corinthians with Tevez forming a supporting role, yes he scored more but that is not my point.


Right, Drogba?

Nilmar had a broken leg for the majority of Tevez's stay at Corinthians. Drogba scored 10 league goals in his first season for Chelsea and 12 in his second both seasons they won the league.

[Lord Shrimpeh]

I think these days teams are moving past the stage of having 20 goal a season strikers. It's much more about the team now as demonstrated by Arsenal, Chelsea and Man U. Sure, you need someone to put them in but we have guys from all over the pitch. Tevez would link in nicely to last seasons style of football. Someone like Ruud wouldn't... which is why he was sold and why we won the league. Why would we want to go back to 3 premiershipless seasons?

[CaptainCabinet]

Nilmar had a broken leg for the majority of Tevez's stay at Corinthians. Drogba scored 10 league goals in his first season for Chelsea and 12 in his second both seasons they won the league.
I'm guessing the almost full report card in the 2005 season means nothing then?

[Joel]

:blush: Fair enough, then I do apologise.

Haribo you're an arse.

You could use Arsenal's 2003/04 season for your argument.

Henry got 30 league goals, but they still had many other goal scorers around the pitch. Not only did they win the league comfortably, but they went on to be unbeaten.

I guess that is what happens when you have a 20+ hitman and still have many other goal scorers all over the pitch. Let us hope this does not happen for Man Untied.

[Cobinho]

I'm guessing the almost full report card in the 2005 season means nothing then?

My mistake Nilmar's injury must have been last season. Tevez did play as a striker, not a second striker at Corinthians that cannot be denied. Nilmar floats into wide areas when he plays, Tevez was the main reference point through the middle.

[Cobinho]

You could use Arsenal's 2003/04 season for your argument.

Henry got 30 league goals, but they still had many other goal scorers around the pitch. Not only did they win the league comfortably, but they went on to be unbeaten.

I guess that is what happens when you have a 20+ hitman and still have many other goal scorers all over the pitch. Let us hope this does not happen for Man Untied.

Obviously any team would want a 20+ goal striker. My point is that it is not of great necessity when you have goalscorers throught your team. So when people said Man Utd NEED a 20+ goal striker I was trying to point out they didn't.

[Phatmann]

10 Prem goals first year, 12 in the second.

In another news, Real Madrid are apparently poaching our 'highly regarded' fitness coach Valter di Salvo.

EDIT: I know. ¬_¬

But we poached him FROM real madrid a few years ago :mellow:

[AgentZero]

why is tehre talk of nilmar, corinthians and le arse in here?! Settle it outside lads

[skullverine]

if the reports on Tevez joining is true, how would the third-party ownership can be solved?

[AgentZero]

well 20M is a little more than what west ham payed for him isnt it?

[Top Gun]

Tevez is probably not the best choice but with his talent it would be hard not to go for him. Under Curbishley he had a record of 1 goal every 1.6 games or something close to that, so we know he can score goals. If Rooney had a poor season like so many people say then he should get more than the 16 which he got this year and move to over 20. Ronaldo will always get a good few. Giggs, Scholes and maybe Anderson should chip in. I think he will be a great addition.

[AgentZero]

saf is determined not to have more than one argy bargy in the team. Unless this sways Gabby to stay

[Zoolander]

Although i'm disappointed the Holy Trinity of Pique, Ronaldo & Fenando couldn't happen. Tevez will bring the sexy back into our front line.

[ecureuil]

Tevez would be a great addition to the squad. I won't believe he's joining until I see him paraded on the Old Trafford pitch in a United shirt. The dodgy stuff with agents/third parties leaves the transfer liable to fall through at any given moment.

[Wan]

Well, Tevez is a good one..

[Cali]

Tevez would be a good signing, but I agree with Theo and Hunter when they say that he isn't the "in and out" striker we are really needing.

I would of much rather had United going for Luca Toni, not just because I'm a fan of Luca, but because he pops up and score's plenty. Yes, I do know that he now plays his Football at Bayern Munich, btw. Tevez will be great though, but I'm sure he won't score more then what, 15/16 goals a season, yet anyways. He will get involved in the creative way that we play, and I think that he will give plenty of assist's. I'm sure he will be great for us, but I would prefer a more goalscoring type of forward, like Toni or Huntelaar. Although to be fair with Tevez, he scored a lot of goals at the end of the Season and was only at the Hammer's since January.

[ecureuil]

If we have Rooney, Tevez and Ronaldo scoring 15+ goals a season, with Scholes, Anderson and Nani scoring plenty too, along with Saha, Ole, Giggs, Carrick, Hargreaves chipping in and anyone else, do we really need an out and out goalscorer? I don't think so. We had one in Ruud, and he didn't make us any better (great as he is), it just meant that we had to play to his strengths. We have enough firepower in the team.

[Mambo]

It's easy to jump on the 'out and out 20+ a season' bandwagon. That's what we had with Ruud, and it worked for a while. But United's gameplay is evolving. SAF is trying to build a team of intelligent attacking players that can interchange seamlessly. People like Ronaldo who at some stages of the game will be playing up front, drifting out left, then right etc.

Tevez fits into this perfectly. He and Rooney have great off the ball movement, and yes they can both play SS roles (I've stated my worry about them playing together before). But now I think they'd work really well, playing off each other. How hard would it be for defenders to mark them, not knowing who's going to drop off or drift wide etc? They're intelligent enough to find the space and know when to play off the last man or drop off, depending on where the other player is. I think we're moving past the 'one drops off and one poaches/gets on the end of everything route.' For a player who had a 'bad season' Rooney's 16 goals is a good return. Just think what he could get with Tevez as his partner.

Just don't knock it until/if you see it, I think they could work well and prove a nightmare for defenders. The only thing I worry about is headers, not much height in there between them.

[AgentZero]

nah we dont need another player in the ruud mould. I reckon going with a les conventional striker in Tevez will definately bring sexyback.

@God: where pique gone?

[Zoolander]

He's still with us for the time being.

[AgentZero]

well the holy trinity of Portuguese speakers is the new trinity.
Nani, Ando, Ronaldo

[ecureuil]

The Times reckons it'll be a 2 year loan deal with the option of a £20+mil permanent move after that.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premiership/manchester_united/article2034228.ece

Also says we're trying to wrap it up within 24 hours.

[Rambo]

nah we dont need another player in the ruud mould. I reckon going with a les conventional striker in Tevez will definately bring sexyback.


So you don't want a 20+ goal striker?

[accessgranted]

nah we dont need another player in the ruud mould. I reckon going with a les conventional striker in Tevez will definately bring sexyback.

@God: where pique gone?

Sexy never left the EPL.
Arsenal have been bringing the sexy for years.

[Lord Shrimpeh]

So you don't want a 20+ goal striker?

We won the league, got to the FA cup final and got further in the champions league than we have for several seasons without one last season so.... no actually.

Sexy never left the EPL.
Arsenal have been bringing the sexy for years.

Well they're not going to anymore so it looks like it's our job now. Thanks for filling the gap for a couple of seasons while we were rebuilding our squad though. You can return to obscurity now.

[Jonny2J]

We won the league, got to the FA cup final and got further in the champions league than we have for several seasons without one last season so.... no actually.



Well they're not going to anymore so it looks like it's our job now. Thanks for filling the gap for a couple of seasons while we were rebuilding our squad though. You can return to obscurity now.So because Thierry Henry has left they are not going to keep on playing the passing football that only they can play in the league?

Arsenal going back to obscurity? I always thought they were one of the most historically successful sides in the history of English football.

[mufcsean]

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=475502&CPID=8&clid=1&lid=2&title=Tevez+to+seal+United+loa n&channel=football_home&

:D

[Wan]

might be a good signing for Man U..
But why West Ham just want to loan him?
Maybe the next season they will be relegated..

[Zoolander]

Eh?

[Wan]

What?
You don't understand what I'm saying?

[Zoolander]

West Ham chairman Eggert Magnusson insists Carlos Tevez cannot leave without the consent of the club.

Widespread reports claim Manchester United are close to signing Tevez on a two-year loan deal, with the Argentina striker likely to seal a move to Old Trafford in the next 24 hours.

However, West Ham have now moved to play down the possibility of the 23-year-old leaving Upton Park this summer by stating he still has three years to run on his contract.

Magnusson fully expects Tevez, who is currently on international duty playing in the Copa America, to return to West Ham ahead of next season.

"Carlos Tevez is a registered West Ham United player, contracted to the club until June 2010," he said in a statement on the club's official website.

"There is no agreement with West Ham United for Carlos Tevez to leave the club and we expect him to return in time for next season's preparations.

"No decision on his future can be reached without the agreement of West Ham United."

Any deal which takes Tevez to Manchester United will be under scrutiny from the Premier League and they will likely back West Ham in their stance.


Source (http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=475577&CPID=8&clid=21&lid=2&title=TEVEZ'S+UNITED+MOVE+IN+T URMOIL)

[Wan]

Sorry mate..
Seems like he can't join..

[Zoolander]

If Tevez doesn't want to play for West Ham they'll have no choice. :laugh:

[Wan]

ya you're right..
Maybe he will join Man Yoo or Real Motherrid..

[Zoolander]

--------------Van Der Sar--------------

Neville-----Ferdinand-----Vidic------Evra

--------------Hargreaves---------------

--------------------Scholes------------

--Rooney-----------------------Ronaldo

-----------------Dong-----------------


:w00t

Dong my Asian brother will come good!

[Phatmann]

--------------Van Der Sar--------------

Neville-----Ferdinand-----Vidic------Evra

--------------Hargreaves---------------

--------------------Scholes------------

--Rooney-----------------------Ronaldo

-----------------Dong-----------------


:w00t

Dong my Asian brother will come good!

GO ON DONG!

what about Park Ji-Sung when he's fit? :unsure:

GK: Van Der Sar
RB: Nev
LB: Heinze (if he stays)
CB: Rio
CB: Vidic
CM: Hargreaves
CM: Carrick
RM: Ronaldo
LM:Giggs
ST: Rooney
ST: Dong :cool: <-----the out and out striker :huh:

[Top Gun]

GK: VDS
DR: Neville
DL: Evra
DC: Rio
DC: Vidic
MR: Ronaldo
ML: Giggs
MC: Carrick
MC: Scholes
SS: Rooney
FC: Smith

At least this year then bench is going to be looking much stronger, instead of having people like Richardson the bench should be,

Foster
Heinze/Brown
Anderson/Nani/Hargreaves/Fletcher
Saha/Solksjaer

I would have no problem with any of them being in the starting eleven.

[Zoolander]

Where's Dong?

[Phatmann]

Where's Dong?

That's exactly what I was thinking.

http://www.southcn.com/sports/star3/dongfz/200401161217_547020.gif

[AgentZero]

So you don't want a 20+ goal striker?

loved one, but we prove we can still play without one and still win.

[skullverine]

good move. Doesn't player's value go down when they're in the last year of the contract? Might save us a few millions.

[AgentZero]

well i have a sus feeling that we didnt spend the alleged amount for both Nani and anderson............maybe im just clutching straws but who knows.

[Zoolander]

http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/4729/mesininhopx2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Manchester United are reported to have agreed a deal for Internacional youngster Mesininho.

The 18-year-old midfielder is understood to have been watched by United for two years.

The Red Devils have now pushed through a deal and will pay around £250,000 for Mesininho.

It is not United's first foray into the youth market in Brazil, only last year they struck a deal for Fluminese duo Rafael and Fabio - who will be eligible to move to England in 2009 when they turn 18.

Source (http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=475648&CPID=8&clid=1&lid=&title=United+close+on+youngste r&channel=&)

[Jonny2J]

Let's hope with a name like that he's not some sort of a Messi/Ronaldinho crossbreed. ;)

[vanNistelrooy]

Let's hope he is! :D

[Top Gun]

News for you Dong fans. (God and Phat)

United striker Dong Fangzhuo is tipped to feature in China's starting XI for the team's opening Asian Cup match on Monday.

China, who were losing finalists in 2004 but have since slumped to 76 in the FIFA world rankings, kick off their campaign against co-hosts Malaysia at the National Stadium in Kuala Lumpur on 9 July (kick-off 13:35 BST).

Fangzhuo is one of five forwards selected by coach Zhu Guanghu and joins fellow England-based players Li Tie (Sheffield United) and Sun Jihai (Manchester City) in the side. Midfielder Zheng Zhi, who played on loan for Charlton last season, will captain the team.

Fangzhuo has scored just once for China at senior level, against Switzerland in June 2006, but some Asian media outlets predict the United frontman could be "the one to watch" this month.

China face an uphill battle to reach the tournament's knockout phase. As well as co-hosts Malaysia, they occupy Group C with 2006 World Cup qualifiers Iran and emerging force Uzbekistan.

"They are going crazy during training," China coach Zhu Guanghu said of his players.

"They are shouting and screaming at each other and trying to encourage each other. It's amazing."

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BB4CEE8F A%2D9A47%2D47BC%2DB069%2D3F7A2 F35DB70%7D&newsid=437216

[Miggy]

Let me see that Dong!

That dong,dong,dong.

[Keyser Soze]

Nani Compilation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nAe6ke2M0Q)

[AgentZero]

did you make G-banger?

[Keyser Soze]

Yeah, did you enjoy it?

[AgentZero]

it was wank:ninja:

[Zoolander]

I was gonna make a Ballack compilation but couldn't find any recent footage.

[Keyser Soze]

I was gonna make a Ballack compilation but couldn't find any recent footage.
Ah, lucky I had no finding Nani clips. He seems to like acting a lot....

[Joel]

Rooney Nike Advert (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe52mPMtgRM)

[AgentZero]

old hat

[Joel]

Tevez On Joining United (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfum5X583Uc)

[Keyser Soze]

:laugh:

Let's have some respect, this is the Manchester United thread and these video's have nothing to do with their players which is a little out of order IMO...

Ferdinand Compilation (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=egLDDbdX8EU&mode=related&search=)

[Jesus]

United's 3 signings (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TttNhD1Q9XA)

[AgentZero]

what a shit song, there are a lot of better tunes than those.

[Jesus]

It is shit, but I the video was okay...

[AgentZero]

yeah it is ok. But there arent very many clips of Nani yet. Ive seen shitloads of Ando

[Jesus]

Try searching on this site http://footballclips.net/

[AgentZero]

hhaha just seen ye av...reminds of the farcas when ozzy osbourne pissed on the alamo

[dadamafia]

...got to the FA cup final and got further in the champions league than we have for several seasons without one last season so.... no actually.

These are all reasons why we do actually need a striker with size, good strength on the ball to go alongside a good scoring touch up front. Our team currently has no striker who could really battle it out with the class defenders of the Chelseas and other top teams in European competition. Tevez definitely doesnt help in that department either. The Prem trophy is all fine and dandy but we really shouldnt be settling for just that. With some sources putting the future fee at around 35 m Thats just crazy considering you could probably get two solid strikers for that fee (Huntelaar at 15m and Adriano at 20m). I have always felt like Utd should go after Adriano especially as he is still only 25 and all he needs is a supportive atmosphere and patience. He cant get that at Inter with the quality they have up front in that squad because the class strikers they have would definitely become unsettled when their talent sits on the bench while Adriano tries to regain form. I honestly believe he would burst back onto the scene if Man Utd were ever to get him and Rooney's unselfishness as his support striker will definitely give him that extra push. They could feed off each other pretty well I feel. The player has all the tools and with his size we'd effectively have someone who wouldnt be intimidated by the challenge of a big, strong defender and also someone who can grind it out for us up front while helping us attain victory in those ugly (physically taxing) matches where all the fancy stuff gets thrown out the window.

[Jesus]

:laugh:

[AgentZero]

dont tell me you wear Dada, fubu and Wu Tang still.

[dadamafia]

:laugh:

What?

[Jesus]

Adriano? :lol:

[AgentZero]

Well les hope this 2 year loan + sale clause at end of it is the real deal. Concerned with the level of spending and the glazer debt issue

[Guillermo]

Tevez On Joining United (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfum5X583Uc)

I like Ashley Cole's response :rolleyes:

Blatantly shitting himself about giving a truthful answer.

[Viperized]

Ashley Cole wanted to say Jermaine Jenas but he doesn't play for Chelsea.

[AgentZero]

lets not bag out ashley cole here lads he does have the fittest wife, so the bosy doin somethin right.

[Jesus]

Aye, Cheryl Tweedy is fit.

[Mambo]

These are all reasons why we do actually need a striker with size, good strength on the ball to go alongside a good scoring touch up front. Our team currently has no striker who could really battle it out with the class defenders of the Chelseas and other top teams in European competition. Tevez definitely doesnt help in that department either. The Prem trophy is all fine and dandy but we really shouldnt be settling for just that. With some sources putting the future fee at around 35 m Thats just crazy considering you could probably get two solid strikers for that fee (Huntelaar at 15m and Adriano at 20m). I have always felt like Utd should go after Adriano especially as he is still only 25 and all he needs is a supportive atmosphere and patience. He cant get that at Inter with the quality they have up front in that squad because the class strikers they have would definitely become unsettled when their talent sits on the bench while Adriano tries to regain form. I honestly believe he would burst back onto the scene if Man Utd were ever to get him and Rooney's unselfishness as his support striker will definitely give him that extra push. They could feed off each other pretty well I feel. The player has all the tools and with his size we'd effectively have someone who wouldnt be intimidated by the challenge of a big, strong defender and also someone who can grind it out for us up front while helping us attain victory in those ugly (physically taxing) matches where all the fancy stuff gets thrown out the window.

Have you seen Rooney and Tevez play? They're some of the least intimidated players in the game, and add that to the fact that they are both tanks, they don't get shoved off the ball too easily by anyone no matter what their size. Of all the strikers we could be going for I wouldn't want Adriano.

[Barry]

I hate Nani already. A shame because I do like the Jackson Five.

[Jesus]

Why do you hate Nani, Barry?

[Barry]

Why do you hate Nani Barry?

There's a few things. His attitude and his balance problems mainly; the same as Cristiano Ronaldo, which also means he's is indeed a talented player.

[Jesus]

It's a really good reason to hate someone :laugh: :lol:

[Barry]

Players like him ruin the beautiful game with their diving, much like Robben, CRonaldo, Guti etc. Players that don't need it to get by, but still cheat the shit out of their opponents.

[Jesus]

Okay, i get your point now.

[Matty D]

Have you seen Rooney and Tevez play? They're some of the least intimidated players in the game, and add that to the fact that they are both tanks, they don't get shoved off the ball too easily by anyone no matter what their size. Of all the strikers we could be going for I wouldn't want Adriano.

I slightly agree, although you do need a tall target man upfront to compliment the skill and tenacity of Rooney and Tevez.

[Mambo]

I slightly agree, although you do need a tall target man upfront to compliment the skill and tenacity of Rooney and Tevez.

Yeah if you're Bolton! Just because these guys aren't as tall as Peter Crouch doesn't mean they won't win headers. Plus if you look at United's play, it's all about pass and move, with either on the floor passes or lofted balls for players to run on to. We rarely hoof the ball to a target man. I think Rooney and Tevez will score headers too because of their positional awareness. This is more important than being tall IMO

[Viperized]

Old Trafford at it's finest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPkxEvl3GYg)

[Hunter]

Old Trafford at it's finest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPkxEvl3GYg)

I was thinking more of "Spider Leaping Through Air".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPUpdRYDbMo

Cool as you like. :cool:

[mufcsean]

:cool: cool

[Top Gun]

Carlos Tevez says he has given his word to Sir Alex Ferguson that he will join United.

The 23-year-old, currently on international duty with Argentina at the Copa Amercia, claims negoiations between his advisors and the club are at an advanced stage and he is relishing the chance to play for the Reds.

"Through my backers I have given my word to Mr Ferguson," Tevez is quoted as saying in The People. "They have told him I'll be at Manchester United next season and once I make a promise I don't go back on it.

"There isn't a player who would turn down this opportunity and the negotiations are too far advanced to go back now.

"I have been open and honest with West Ham every step of the way and I hope the fans understand."

If he joins, Tevez will become United's fourth major signing of the summer following the arrivals of Owen Hargreaves, Nani and Anderson.

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=&newsid=442652

Good news, I personally think he will be able to fit in the same team as Rooney and they both have brilliant work rate which should be great to watch. One of the best things in getting him is that another team can't have him, if Chelsea had Drogba with Tevez playing off of him they would be extremely dangerous.

[Jesus]

Do you guys think the Tevez transfer is 100% confirmed or is there a slight chance that another club does a [:ninja:]hijacking[/:ninja:]

[Sully]

Do you lot honestly think that United are trying to buy the title? Most of the players they have brought so far have come in at highly inflated prices. If this were to happen at Chelsea we'd be accused of trying to buy the title

[ecureuil]

Do you lot honestly think that United are trying to buy the title? Most of the players they have brought so far have come in at highly inflated prices. If this were to happen at Chelsea we'd be accused of trying to buy the title

They're all on hire purchases so it's not as much as it looks.

[Top Gun]

Do you lot honestly think that United are trying to buy the title? Most of the players they have brought so far have come in at highly inflated prices. If this were to happen at Chelsea we'd be accused of trying to buy the title

They clearly are to a certain extent. If this Tevez deal goes through it could mean spendings of more than £80 million which is huge although still something like £40 million off what Chelsea spent straight after Abramovic came in. This reason I think that Chelsea get accused so much is because they weren't really in the title contention until they got all of the money whereas Man Utd worked there way up, money was involved but not in such a big way. Another thing with Chelsea is that they have the ability to go out and spend £30 million on a 30 year old whereas we spend our money on youngsters who could be at the club for a long time.

I also think Fergie has realised that major investment is needed as the key players in the squad over the past decade are now coming to the end of their career's (Giggs, Scholes, Solksjaer, Neville) and they all need to be replaced if we are going to stay in touch with Chelsea over the next few season's.

[ecureuil]

Top Gun, as I said, the deals are on hire purchases. Nani and Anderson were only £7-8mil upfront, and fell in to last years budget, as we didn't spend all that much. Hargreaves cost a bit more, but as he was bought after July 1st, it falls in to next years budget, and Tevez is supposed to be coming on a loan deal for £3mil/year, no? It looks like we spent £60+ million in the summer, but it's not that simple. Total outlay for the summer is less than £30mil so far. It'll mean we won't be able to afford anyone next summer.

[Jesus]

I really hope our players play well together quickly, I've had nightmares of Nani playing like Richardson.

EDIT: Some pictures of the home shirt:

http://www.kitbag.com/product_images/maxzoom/prd_maxzoom_237924-666.jpg
http://www.kitbag.com/product_images/maxzoom/prd_maxzoom_237924-666_1.jpg
http://www.kitbag.com/product_images/maxzoom/prd_maxzoom_237924-666_2.jpg
http://www.kitbag.com/product_images/maxzoom/prd_maxzoom_237924-666_3.jpg
http://www.kitbag.com/product_images/maxzoom/prd_maxzoom_237924-666_4.jpg

[Top Gun]

Top Gun, as I said, the deals are on hire purchases. Nani and Anderson were only £7-8mil upfront, and fell in to last years budget, as we didn't spend all that much. Hargreaves cost a bit more, but as he was bought after July 1st, it falls in to next years budget, and Tevez is supposed to be coming on a loan deal for £3mil/year, no? It looks like we spent £60+ million in the summer, but it's not that simple. Total outlay for the summer is less than £30mil so far. It'll mean we won't be able to afford anyone next summer.

The Hargreaves deal is a straight £17m I think but I know that the Nani and Anderson deals depend on performance and Tevez is probably going to be on loan but Ferguson hinted today in a press conference that it might not be a loan.

Anyway I think the squad is now looking the strongest it has in the last 4 or 5 years,

Van Der Saar, Foster and Kuszczak. All 3 of them are good enough to be starting although Kuszczak doesn't have my full confidence. Foster and Van Der Saar are both very good keepers.

Neville, Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra, Brown and Heinze. I have no problems with any of those starting and in backup we have Silvestre, Pique, Evans and O'Shea. Silvestre is dodgy at times and could do with leaving, O'Shea improved greatly last season and looked much more confident. Pique and Evans are both untried in the Premiership but both had very good season's with their respective clubs.

Giggs, Hargreaves, Carrick, Scholes, Ronaldo, Fletcher and Park. I have no problems with any of those starting. Fletcher is the same as O'Shea in the way that last season was probably the best season he has had and showed that he plays his best in the centre of the park. Park's energy gives us a different dimension as he hassle's brilliantly and chips in with some good goals. We obviously have Nani and Anderson who are both untried but could become first team players quite easily if they can prove themselves in the Premiership.

Rooney, Smith, Saha and Solksjaer. All of those could be starters but we definitely need a better player to partner Rooney and it looks like Tevez will be coming in to do that. We have Rossi who had a good record for Parma last season which shows he can score at a high level and Dong, who to be honest, I don't have a clue about really.

[Jesus]

Dong:erm: , God knows:w00t

[Hunter]

Do you lot honestly think that United are trying to buy the title? Most of the players they have brought so far have come in at highly inflated prices. If this were to happen at Chelsea we'd be accused of trying to buy the title

People have said it about United over the last decade but the problem with the claim is United earned their money. Chelsea were no where to be seen until some mafia based Russian multi-billionaire mobster decided to own Chelsea. Quite as simple as that really.

[-The Trooper-]

With Tevez & Rooney upfront, United will definatly have the ugliest pairing of strikers.

Then throw Saha, Scholes, Giggs, Neville, Van Der Sar, Ferdinand, Evra and Brown into the mix and you have one hell of a ugly first team.

Good thing football aint a beauty contest.

[Jesus]

Might be the ugliest but certainly one of the deadliest partnerships(striking/football partnership, that is)

With short hair Tevez and Rooney aren't so ugly :erm:

http://www.soschildrensvillages.org.u k/imgs/content/Rooney_SOS_Ambassador_website. jpg
http://www.4thegame.com/media/00/03/00/tevez.jpg

[AgentZero]

Do you lot honestly think that United are trying to buy the title? Most of the players they have brought so far have come in at highly inflated prices. If this were to happen at Chelsea we'd be accused of trying to buy the title

when we were after tevez for 20M i was like hmm i feel rather hypocritical right now. But the fee surrounding nani and anderson are undisclosed so we cant say how much of the title we're buying.

[Viperized]

Anderson compilation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6Lxr6_jQeo)

Nani skills (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0dcSBAcUpc)

[Wan]

You got a wrong link there mate!
Lol..

[Sully]

:rolleyes: :unsure: :laugh: :no:

[Cali]

Anderson compilation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6Lxr6_jQeo)

Nani skills (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0dcSBAcUpc)

Eduardo Da Silva Compilation (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QALY0kbJWzs)

OMFG PW'ND!!!!111!

[Guillermo]

Eduardo Da Silva Compilation (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QALY0kbJWzs)


I knew that was a lie. As if someone would make a compilation of him :ninja:

Viperized - piss off.

[Jonny2J]

Anyone watching ESPN Classic now?

To think this game was just over a decade ago with some of the tackles, kicks, punches all thrown in there. Never be able to have a game as well battled as this now.

[Viperized]

I knew that was a lie. As if someone would make a compilation of him :ninja:

Viperized - piss off.
It's only a joke you fag.

By the way here is a link to an Eduardo compilation. So your claim is pretty much debunked. :tongue:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nREh1bD0HsY

[Viperized]

Eduardo Da Silva Compilation (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QALY0kbJWzs)

OMFG PW'ND!!!!111!
Stepanovs. :no:

[Keyser Soze]

Anderson compilation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6Lxr6_jQeo)

Nani skills (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0dcSBAcUpc)
R.I.P Compilation joke.

[wrathchild_uk]

Anyone notice that Nani had 17 on his shirt and Hargeaves had no number on his....maybe there waiting to sell Richardson so he can his old bayern num at utd.

[vanNistelrooy]

Let's fucking hope so!

Who was 17 before?

[Miggy]

I thought Hargeaves was getting 8 now that Rooney has 10 :unsure:

[Top Gun]

I think that Anderson will end up getting 8, this would show that Ferguson has faith that he can be a first team player straight away.

[Joel]

It'll probably go to Tevez :no:

[Top Gun]

He might take 32 but I'm not sure if he has a special affiliation with that number or not. If not he could end up taking the number 8. 12 is free but I expect that Foster will end up taking that.

[skullverine]

Let's fucking hope so!

Who was 17 before?

Larsson. Before that, Miller

[Jesus]

Sir Alex Ferguson is expecting Manchester United to complete the signing of Carlos Tevez in the coming days.

The Argentine has agreed personal terms to join the Premier League champions, who are trying to resolve the issue of his registration with West Ham United and the Premier League.

Tevez's representative Kia Joorabchian is also involved in the negotiation process, but Ferguson believes the matter will conclude with the striker moving to Old Trafford.

"We have had a negotiation, it's well documented, with Carlos Tevez," said Ferguson at a press conference on Sky Sports News.

"The essential parts, it's all agreed, we're just hoping to finalise it soon.

"I thought it was going to be done by last weekend. Everything seemed perfectly okay, so the hold-up must be with the Premier League."

Ferguson also anticipates none of the problems which blighted West Ham's signing of Tevez, with the East London club fined £5.5million.

The United manager insists nothing 'dodgy' will occur in his club's quest to bring the South American to the club.

He added: "I don't know about the intricacies, I've left that to Maurice Watkins, he's dealing with that.

"I'm sure the outcome will be that we will be taking him with complete clarity in the deal, with no suspicions or anything dodgy about it.

"There is no way we can be involved in anything that's underhand at all."

Tevez's capture would complete a big-spending summer for Ferguson, who has already secured deals for Anderson, Owen Hargreaves and Nani.

Source (http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=475957&CPID=8&clid=1&lid=&title=Fergie+waits+on+Tevez+tr ansfer&channel=&)

[Wan]

Before Miller, Ronaldo wears no 17 too right?

[Guillermo]

Before Miller, Ronaldo wears no 17 too right?

Ronaldo has always worn the number 7 shirt at United. He wears 17 for Portugal.

[Wan]

oh must be a mistake then..

[Top Gun]

Rooney Nike Commercial Part II (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TmphogTco4U)

[mufcsean]

:lol: thats better than the other one

[skullverine]

any pics of the unveiling of Nani and Hargreaves?

[Jesus]

http://picsrv.manutd.com/?fif=/manu/...61386&cvt=jpeg

[Wan]

An internal error occured at the location..

[mufcsean]

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/9663/75282392uj8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://editorial.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?EventId=75264965