Manchester United

[Wan]

Oh, these pictures already got them..

[AgentZero]

nani does look like MJ

[Sully]

Its gonna feel quite odd at the start of the season. For the first time in about four season Manchester United will be under more pressure than Chelsea.

[Bammers05]

Rooney Nike Commercial Part II (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TmphogTco4U)

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Barry]

nani does look like MJ

While Hargreaves is obviously trying for Jeff Buckley.

[Phatmann]

While Hargreaves is obviously trying for Jeff Buckley.

http://www.abcmedianet.com/showcontent/primetime/uglybetty/uglybetty_i/urie.jpg

[mufcsean]

:lol:

[PEM]

ahh. c.ronaldo snogs bipasha basu.

people who dont know who bipasha basu is then

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipasha_Basu

and if you dont know who c.ronaldo is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristiano_Ronaldo

[Joel]

ahh. c.ronaldo snogs bipasha basu.

people who dont know who bipasha basu is then

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipasha_Basu

and if you dont know who c.ronaldo is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristiano_Ronaldo

' the fuck are you talking about?

[PEM]

' the fuck are you talking about?
this, t'was in the papers

http://www.indicine.com/movies/img/2007/07/bipasha_ronaldo.jpg

http://www.indicine.com/movies/img/2007/07/cristianaano.jpg

http://www.theoffside.com/leagues/england/english-premiership/cristiano-ronaldo-gets-cuddly-with-bollywoods-bipasha-basu.html

http://www.dailyindia.com/show/156055.php/Cristiano-Ronaldo-gets-close-and-personal-with-Bipasha-Basu

[Top Gun]

It looks like Tevez is desperate to leave West Ham, he is apparantly now threatening to give Sheffield United evidence showing his transfer to be illegal if West Ham don't let him go.

[Zoolander]

You just flicked on SSN? They've been reporting this all night.

[Top Gun]

Yep. It would be funny if he was to leave and still give Sheffield United the evidence. Nobody would miss West Ham.

[skullverine]

I thought West Ham allows Tevez to move. It's just the PL members that decide to block the move

[AgentZero]

this, t'was in the papers

http://www.indicine.com/movies/img/2007/07/bipasha_ronaldo.jpg

http://www.indicine.com/movies/img/2007/07/cristianaano.jpg

http://www.theoffside.com/leagues/england/english-premiership/cristiano-ronaldo-gets-cuddly-with-bollywoods-bipasha-basu.html

http://www.dailyindia.com/show/156055.php/Cristiano-Ronaldo-gets-close-and-personal-with-Bipasha-Basu
those pics arent very flattering of her.

[Zoolander]

Ronaldo is copying my style from 2 years ago! :angry: Tanned, good at football, white shirt, gay hair etc!

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/1971/1010196pf4.jpg

[Miggy]

You have a better complexion God.

[Zoolander]

You have a better complexion God.

Thanks latino! :blush: You're hot too!

I have 2 attributes Ronaldo doesn't have! My buns of steel!

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8651/blackjack838921307vc1.jpg

[mufcsean]

Hot

[Guillermo]

Chocolate love indeed.

[Dragonfly]

Were you dogging that night? Looks like you're in a car park.

[Wan]

You're Asian?

[Sully]

No, he just uses a sunbed a lot

[Jesus]

Yes God is Asian, Wan;)

[Zoolander]

Were you dogging that night? Looks like you're in a car park.

Pub carpark. Toga pub crawl.

[Top Gun]

Kia Joorabchin (Sp?) was on SSN earlier saying that the Tevez deal has been agreed and he will be having a medical on Wesdnesday. He also said that he has all of the papers showing nothing wrong with any of Tevez's moves.

[mufcsean]

Good ;)

[AgentZero]

BJ youre not tanned thats how you were originally.

[Zoolander]

I go darker. Due to me being in the UK for a long time, my tan has faded. That's why I have to top it up with sunbeds.

[ecureuil]

Kia Joorabchin (Sp?) was on SSN earlier saying that the Tevez deal has been agreed and he will be having a medical on Wesdnesday. He also said that he has all of the papers showing nothing wrong with any of Tevez's moves.

Already been denied by West Ham, who insist that he's not going anywhere. They are being complete cunts to be honest, the only reason they want to keep him is because if he goes they are in the shit. I hope that if they force him to stay, he goes on strike again.

[AgentZero]

I go darker. Due to me being in the UK for a long time, my tan has faded. That's why I have to top it up with sunbeds.

just dont go nuts liek our oompa loompa friend *tries to locate photo*

[Dragonfly]

I go darker. Due to me being in the UK for a long time, my tan has faded. That's why I have to top it up with sunbeds.

:laugh: Are you for real?

[Zoolander]

:laugh: Are you for real?

Yes, I frequent the sunbeds. :blush:

[Top Gun]

Sky Sports News has learnt that Carlos Tevez will fly back to England next week to undergo a medical with Manchester United on Wednesday.

The Red Devils are hopeful of completing the capture of the Argentina striker from West Ham next week as his proposed move to Old Trafford has been held up by the ongoing issue of his registration.

But Tevez's representative Kia Joorabchian is confident the contractual problems will be successfully been ironed out.

Tevez is currently preparing for the Copa America final against Brazil on Sunday but will return to England following the game to seal his switch to United having already agreed terms with the Premier League champions.

Joorabchian has told Sky Sports News that the 23-year-old will fly back on Tuesday before having a medical with United the following day.

"Carlos is going to come on Tuesday to do a medical on Wednesday at Manchester United," Joorabchian said.

"Hopefully we'll get all the administrative issues sorted next week and I hope everything will be okay, we don't foresee any problems.

"We spoke to Manchester United tonight (Thursday), they are quite confident we can have him registered by next week.

"Personal terms between Carlos and Manchester United have been agreed in full."

Joorabchian admits Tevez is slightly saddened to be bringing to an end his spell as a West Ham player, but says it was agreed last summer that he would only spend one season at Upton Park.

"Carlos is a little bit sad because in terms of West Ham he felt very attached to the club last year," he added.

"He helped them, along with the other guys at the club, to get them out of the relegation battle which I think they did a fantastic job towards the end of the season.

"He's a sportsman, he doesn't really understand all the administrative bits and pieces, but he knows he's not in any way fighting with West Ham or demanding anything.

"He loved his time there and it was kind of mutually agreed he would be there for a year and he was there for his year, he served his year."

West Ham have dismissed claims that striker Carlos Tevez is set to complete his move to Manchester United.

Representatives for the Argentine, 23, say he will have a medical at Old Trafford on Wednesday when he returns from Sunday's Copa America final.

But West Ham are said to be bewildered by the latest statements on the future of Tevez, calling them irresponsible.

United boss Sir Alex Ferguson remains "hopeful" a deal can be reached to take the striker to Old Trafford.

He said: "I think we have got the player - we think he's our player and are very hopeful.

"Everyone was excited when we thought we could get Tevez. He's exciting, his form is fantastic and at 23 he can get better."

Personal terms are understood to have been agreed and United have agreed an initial loan deal to sign Tevez.

The Premier League has insisted West Ham, who hold Tevez's registration, must receive the majority of the fee rather than Kia Joorabchian, who owns Tevez's economic rights.

A spokesman said: "Any deal for Carlos Tevez has to be done directly with West Ham United.

"They hold the registration and we will not transfer the registration unless a deal is done directly with the club."

West Ham were only allowed to keep playing Tevez last season after assuring the Premier League all third-party clauses in the player's contract had been severed.

But Joorabchian is confident he is on sound legal footing to push the transfer through.

"We don't see any problems. I spoke to United on Thursday and they are confident they will have him registered next week," said Joorabchian.

"Carlos will come on Tuesday, have a medical on Wednesday at United and hopefully we will have administrative issues sorted next week.

"Personal terms between Carlos and United have been agreed in full. He feels confident now he is a Manchester United player."

Joorabchian said the time was right for the former Corinthians striker to leave Upton Park.

"Carlos is a bit sad as, in terms of West Ham, he felt very attached to the club last season," he added.

"He helped them out of the relegation battle but he is a sportsman, he doesn't understand the administrative bits and pieces.

"He knows he is not fighting with West Ham or demanding anything.

"He loved his time there and it was mutually agreed he would be there for a year and he has served his year.

"He feels confident now he is a Man United player."

I don't have a clue what is going on now.

[skullverine]

even if West Ham agree for the move, to whom does the money go to?

[AgentZero]

premier league states west ham must get the money
once they have it i dont think the fa can block them paying MSI..or am i wrong?

[Dragonfly]

I don't know if this has been posted, but I thought it was funny.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=lUlLexMBI1k

[Yossi]

premier league states west ham must get the money
once they have it i dont think the fa can block them paying MSI..or am i wrong?

Now I'm no expert on the situation as because the whole situation is so shady nothing is being made public, but the FA saying that is just trying to make them look better. West Ham didn't pay for him as far as I know, and making them get any transfer fee is like the FA trying to say West Ham did indeed own them all along, which doesn't seem to be the case.

I also saw on SSN yesterday that MSI claim Tevez' loan deal with West Ham is now over :erm:

[Phatmann]

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=476799&CPID=8&clid=1&lid=&title=Black+Cats+close+on+Rich ardson

If the reported price is true, I'd be over the moon :w00t :w00t :w00t

[mufcsean]

Same here, bout time we got rid of him, Fletcher next hopefully

[Wan]

Why is that?

[Guillermo]

Why is that?

Because Richardson is rubbish, wan.

[mufcsean]

No its because he is shit

[Wan]

Guess so..
Is Fletcher shit too?

[mufcsean]

I take it youve never seen him play ;)

[Yossi]

To be fair Fletcher did look a bit better towards the end of last season though.

[Keyser Soze]

Fletcher's not shit at all, he's just not Man United standard. He's still a decent squad player for you.

[Wan]

He's not my squad player anymore he's NY Highland Cow now..

[Joel]

Fletcher and O'Shea were superb last year imo. A few seasons back, when they would come on as a sub, it would mean there was a weak link, but not this time around. They pulled their own weight and became trustworthy United squad players.

[Phatmann]

John O'Shea seemed like a different player last season. I was waiting for him to fulfil some of the potential we saw in him in his first full season, but he seemed to be getting worse through the seasons. Now I hope he can keep up his level of performance and not drop down like he has done in the past.

[mufcsean]

He (Fletcher) was better towards the end of the season but he is still not good enough for United, O' Shea was terrific last seasson but i never mentioned him!

[Wan]

Maybe Silvestre?
Doesn't saw him play regularly last season.

[AgentZero]

O'shea and fletch were invaluable squad players last season, fletcher slotted well to cope with our injury crisis and o'shea has be fergies utility man.

[nikos24]

Fletcher's not shit at all, he's just not Man United standard. He's still a decent squad player for you.

He's not my squad player anymore he's NY Highland Cow now..

:laugh:

[Phatmann]

Maybe Silvestre?
Doesn't saw him play regularly last season.

Yeah, we can get rid of Silvestre hopefully.

[mufcsean]

Yeah we dont need him really

[AgentZero]

i hope we do, we can invitingly warm Pique to benches now.

[Keyser Soze]

He's not my squad player anymore he's NY Highland Cow now..
:huh: k.

[mufcsean]

Agreed :tongue:

[Zoolander]

Noises coming from Spain say Pique will be sold.

[AgentZero]

saw the spain and czech game in the u20s pique was quite solid, lets hope someone can persuade him to stay

:angry: scousers can stay the fuck away from our gab

[Zoolander]

They can sniff around him but I doubt he'll go there.

[Wan]

I rated Pique highly than Silvestre regarding his performances with Zaragoza & the U20 matches..

[Guillermo]

Noises coming from Spain say Pique will be sold.

We rejected a 7m bid just a month ago, and now reports are saying Zaragoza will get him for 4m. :rolleyes:

[AgentZero]

is your av saying 'haribos gay'?

[Jonny2J]

is your av saying 'haribos gay'?:laugh:

[Phatmann]

is your av saying 'haribos gay'?

:laugh:

I hope everyone will be watching Brazil v Argentina tonight :w00t Heinze, Anderson and Tevez may play some part hopefully. I'm personally gonna be rooting for Argentina.

[Wan]

ermm, may i know who wants to buy Pique other than Zaragoza?

[Phatmann]

ermm, may i know who wants to buy Pique other than Zaragoza?

No, you may not :)

[wrathchild_uk]

:laugh:

I hope everyone will be watching Brazil v Argentina tonight :w00t Heinze, Anderson and Tevez may play some part hopefully. I'm personally gonna be rooting for Argentina.

Is it a 10:30 kick off on sky sports??

[mufcsean]

Yes it is, we shouldnt let Pique go he is a very solid defender and is a very bright prospect for the future, i think fergie has more sence

[Miggy]

He missed a penalty last night :(

[Top Gun]

So with most of the transfers looking done now, what do you reckon the starting 11 is going to be looking like next season? (You can include Tevez as that looks quite certain)

-----------------Van Der Saar----------------

Neville------Ferdinand------Vidic----------Evra

----------------Hargreaves-------------------

---------------------------Carrick------------

----------Scholes-----------------------Giggs

Ronaldo--------------------------------------

-------------------Rooney--------------------

With that formation we have plenty of cover for all positions. Rooney isn't a lone striker but I think that we would have Ronaldo, Giggs and Scholes moving into the box at the same time. It is the first time Scholes will be fully released since Keane retired really, his goal record should get back to what it was when Keane was in the team.

[Wan]

How about Hargreaves?

[Guillermo]

How about Hargreaves?

Don't get me started on him.

[Top Gun]

How about Hargreaves?

He's in there. :erm:

[Phatmann]

You gotta give Hargreaves a chance now that he's a United player, Haribo :ninja:

[Wan]

Oh sorry didn't noticed him..
So Nani & Anderson was just for backup?

[Phatmann]

Oh sorry didn't noticed him..
So Nani & Anderson was just for backup?

They are more future prospects than back-up.

[wrathchild_uk]

Wheres Tevez in that line up?

[Wan]

He didn't join yet I pressume..

[Stormrider]

-----------------Van Der Saar----------------

Neville------Ferdinand------Vidic----------Evra

----------------Hargreaves-------------------

---------Carrick------------Scholes-----------

Tevez-------------Rooney-------------Ronaldo

back to 4-3-3 :D

[mufcsean]

Giggsy????

[Stormrider]

Giggsy????

Super sub :tongue:
If we do get Tevez, Giggsy should figure in the 1st half of season until Tevez starts gelling with the team.

[Yossi]

I'd stick with the 4-4-2 if I was Ferguson. Which midfielder to drop would be a bloody hard decision though.

[Stormrider]

-----------------Van Der Saar----------------

Neville------Ferdinand------Vidic----------Evra

-----------Carrick--------Hargreaves----------

Ronaldo----------------------------------Giggs

-------------------Scholes (Tevez)------------

-------------------Rooney--------------------

How about this? Only way I can see all 3 included in a 4-4-2

[vanNistelrooy]

Scholes would be the LAST midfielder I'd drop from our team.

And YES that includes Ronaldo.

[Zoolander]

How about Hargreaves?

:laugh:

[mufcsean]

Here is what i think it'll be for the first game of the season against Reading if everybody fit and we have Tevez

GK: van der Sar
RB: Neville
CB: Ferdinand
CB: Vidic
LB: Evra
RMF: Ronaldo
CMF: Hargreaves
CMF: Scholes
LMF: Giggs
SS: Tevez
CF: Rooney

[ecureuil]

Aight, Copa America is over, so let's go get Tevez.

[Stormrider]

Aight, Copa America is over, so let's go get Tevez.

OK you drive :D

[otobot]

great...just great...

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=476995&CPID=8&clid=1&lid=3&title=Gill:+Tevez+deal+complic ated&channel=&

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=476992&CPID=8&clid=1&lid=3&title=Fergie+confirms+Park+blo w&channel=&

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=477000&CPID=8&clid=1&lid=3&title=United+braced+for+Heinze +exit

[Rambo]

Looks like we have no choice but to keep Silvestre. :no:

[AgentZero]

i dunno about 5 mids.

[skullverine]

I'm very disappointed in Heinze. He should fight for his place

[Wan]

I think he knew he can't so that's why he's leaving

[-The Trooper-]

Im still baffled by why Fergerson isn't lookig for an out and out goal scorer (Huntelaar, Berbatov et al.) Rooney is not a natural CF. He scores goals but plays much better behind a natural CF. (Van Nistelrooy) The same applies to Tevez. I can't see a Tevez / Rooney partnership working.

I think he knew he can't so that's why he's leaving

Heinze is 10 times the player Evra is. Your manager hasn't given him the run of games he deserves.

[ecureuil]

Im still baffled by why Fergerson isn't lookig for an out and out goal scorer (Huntelaar, Berbatov et al.) Rooney is not a natural CF. He scores goals but plays much better behind a natural CF. (Van Nistelrooy) The same applies to Tevez. I can't see a Tevez / Rooney partnership working.


We don't need an out and out goalscorer.

Chelsea won the league twice in a row without one.
We won the league last year without one.
Liverpool won the Champions League without one.
Chelsea got one, and failed to win the league.

It's an absolute myth that you need an out and out goal scorer to be successful, it's exactly what we DON'T need. It limits our play, because with that sort of player you have to play through them. We scored 123 goals in all competitions last season, so there is no problem. I can see a Tevez/Rooney partnership working like a dream, I hope we get him.

[Top Gun]

Heinze is 10 times the player Evra is. Your manager hasn't given him the run of games he deserves.

I find a Chelsea supporter giving our manager advice on what left back to pick highly ironic. Also Heinze had a good run of games considering Evra was out for over a month and Vidic was out for a month aswell.

[St.Zwailla]

Nemanja Vidic ... jedan je Nemanja Vidic .......... :)

There can be only 1 ... :)

Sir Alex ... my IDOL ... :)

Man.Utd ...just too let u know u have one more fan ;) and it dont stop...and it cant stop ...and it wont stop :)

Salute ! :)

[Joel]

I can see a Tevez/Rooney partnership working like a dream, I hope we get him.

I can't. All you have to do is look at Argentina's performance when they play both Messi and Tevez together.

[Top Gun]

I can't. All you have to do is look at Argentina's performance when they play both Messi and Tevez together.

Messi and Rooney are totally different players though. Rooney is much stronger and actually wins a lot of headers that he goes up for. Also Argentina don't have much pace in their side so Messi and Tevez wouldn't of been getting much help up top quickly, whereas we would have Ronaldo, Giggs and Nani helping out with Scholes playing much higher up the pitch now we have Hargreaves.

[wrathchild_uk]

Problem is when we had RVN who was a goal scorer the team was more focused around him....since he has gone Utd seem to attack more in numbers, i mean look how many different players scored last season.

[Barry]

There's always room for a natural poacher, however it's not a necessity. Rooney himself is more than a capable goalscorer ( every young player has a season of drawbacks and such).

[-The Trooper-]

I find a Chelsea supporter giving our manager advice on what left back to pick highly ironic. Also Heinze had a good run of games considering Evra was out for over a month and Vidic was out for a month aswell.

Ironic how?

We don't need an out and out goalscorer.

Chelsea won the league twice in a row without one.
We won the league last year without one.
Liverpool won the Champions League without one.
Chelsea got one, and failed to win the league.

It's an absolute myth that you need an out and out goal scorer to be successful, it's exactly what we DON'T need. It limits our play, because with that sort of player you have to play through them. We scored 123 goals in all competitions last season, so there is no problem. I can see a Tevez/Rooney partnership working like a dream, I hope we get him.

Sush you.

[Top Gun]

Ironic how?

The fact that your manager persists in playing Cole when Bridge is a better player, maybe you should advise him. ;)

[-The Trooper-]

The fact that your manager persists in playing Cole when Bridge is a better player, maybe you should advise him. ;)

That is debatable.

Bridge was on form for Chelsea before Cole arrived but was replaced - probably un-fairly.

The RB and LB are used in a much different way at Chelsea than at United. They push up much further in United's formation comapred to Chelsea's where they sit back more. Compare A.Cole at Arsenal and now at Chelsea.

I rate Henize a better player than Cole incidentaly.

:ninja:

[Top Gun]

Maybe Heinze from his first season. Every year he seem's to be getting more erratic, last season Evra was a much, much better player both attacking and defending.

[Keyser Soze]

That is debatable.

Bridge was on form for Chelsea before Cole arrived but was replaced - probably un-fairly.

The RB and LB are used in a much different way at Chelsea than at United. They push up much further in United's formation comapred to Chelsea's where they sit back more. Compare A.Cole at Arsenal and now at Chelsea.

I rate Henize a better player than Cole incidentaly.

:ninja:
Bridge sits back? That's news to me.

[-The Trooper-]

Bridge sits back? That's news to me.

:laugh: You know what I mean. The way Mourinho emplys full backs - he doesn't like them getting too far up the pitch. Why else we he put Lassana fucking Diarra in at RB?!

[ecureuil]

Problem is when we had RVN who was a goal scorer the team was more focused around him....since he has gone Utd seem to attack more in numbers, i mean look how many different players scored last season.

Yes, exactly. We lived and died by how well Ruud was playing. If he was off form, we lost, if he wasn't playing, we looked lost. I love the guy, he's one of the best goalscorers we've ever had, but we're a better side without him.

[wrathchild_uk]

Its true Heinze has peformed poor in the last couple of seasons...he's come through some bad injuries though but even with Evra theres been games when Ferguson has taken him off cus he's been abit shit. Heinze did play pretty poorly against Milan though in both ties and werent that impressive last nite either...

[ecureuil]

I don't know why he wants to leave..

[wrathchild_uk]

prob cus he wants to bum Torres..

[-The Trooper-]

prob cus he wants to bum Torres..

Wan will probably believe you and L33ds will want photo's...

[ecureuil]

Richardson has officially gone to Sunderland. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwEMxYggoKQ)

[mufcsean]

YES :D

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=477190&CPID=8&clid=56&lid=2&title=Black+Cats+land+Richards on&channel=football_home&

[Calzone]

Good signing for them. Loss for Man U.

[Rambo]

Despite Heinze's performances I would advise SAF to do his best to keep him because he is an important member of the squad. There will be matches this season where he will be needed instead of Evra.

[Wan]

Good signing for them. Loss for Man U.

Nah, don't think so..

[Guillermo]

Nah, don't think so..

You tell him wan. :w00t

[Calzone]

:huh:

[vanNistelrooy]

Fuck yes. This is better than us signing Ronaldinho or Messi.

Bye bye Richardson, so fucking glad to see the back of you!

[Singh]

now for fletcher and O shea....

[AgentZero]

fletcher maybe but johnny is useful

[Top Gun]

They both had good season's last year so I think they deserve another season to prove that they can be consistent on a long term basis. The only person I would like to see go would be Silvestre. Maybe Saha if it means we would sign another striker.

[AgentZero]

i say one more long term injury for saha then he has to go

[Top Gun]

That's the only problem I have with Saha. When he is fit he is a very good player, he had a record of better than 1 goal every 2 games last season. Apparantly we are in the hunt for this guy,

Juan Pablo Carrizo's agent claims both Manchester United and Manchester City have made bids for him.

Carrizo is already the subject of an offer from Lazio, whilst Real Zaragoza have just entered the bidding.

The Argentine international, 23, is regarded as one of the best goalkeepers in South America and he looks as if he could seal a move to Europe this summer.

Now it is claimed that Sir Alex Ferguson and Sven Goran Eriksson have locked horns for the first time since the Swede arrived in Manchester.

"The player also has offers from Manchester United, Manchester City and Lazio," Jose Alberti told GRT.

"The decision is now with the club but the kid has told them he wants to move to Europe.

"He is a complete player and can do everything, he has a big future."

I would of thought that a goalkeeper would of been the last thing on Fergie's mind. We already have Foster, Van Der Saar and recently Kuszczak has signed permanantly. Unless Foster is going back out on loan I don't see the point.

[AgentZero]

apparantely gabby has askd for the door.

[Top Gun]

apparantely gabby has askd for the door.

Apparantly so. That's bad news on two levels, firstly we will be losing a very useful player he can play both centre-back and left-back very well. Also it means that Silvestre is likely to stay, in the past few season's he has been getting worse and worse. If he could return to the standards of 2001-2003 he would be a great asset.

[Calzone]

...and if Liverpool get Gabby it would be a plus for them.

[Top Gun]

...and if Liverpool get Gabby it would be a plus for them.

He would be a plus for any team in the world. I can't see him going to Liverpool though as a move to them has already been blocked. I think he will end up in Spain as Real Madrid are interested.

[Calzone]

Yea, It would also be fucked up on his part to go to the pool.

[AgentZero]

id prefer madrid, it seems we are their feeder club for 29yr old players

[ecureuil]

If he could return to the standards of 2001-2003 he would be a great asset.

He was only good that year because he was at centre back. He's always been a crap left back.

[skullverine]

I'd rather see Heinze go to Juventus, instead of Real Madrid.

[mufcsean]

Me too, we have a friendly tonight against Urawa Red Diamonds, wonder what the team'll be

[mufcsean]

Apparently were intrested in this guy

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=477197&CPID=103&clid=1&lid=&title=United+and+City+eye+keep er&channel=&

[Lami]

Me too, we have a friendly tonight against Urawa Red Diamonds, wonder what the team'll be

Tonight? They're already playing 31 minutes through Urawa 1-0 Man U

[Lami]

1st half played with full squad. 2nd half started now with a couple of changes like simpson, silvestre, and one more (not sure who he is).

Update: Evra, Ferdinand, Vidic out. Silvestre, Simpson, and (?) in.
Update: Fletcher goal.
Update: Ronaldo goal. Urawa 1-2 Man U

[AgentZero]

oh dear it seems nani have sported indentical haircut to rons and roons done a shave lines job

[Lami]

Rooney doing it Navy-style.

Update: Giggs, Carrick out. Smith, O'shea in.
Update: Ono goal. Urawa 2-2 Man U.

[wrathchild_uk]

fucking hell didn't we lose to them last year....are they actually a good team or something....also does anyone know of anysites where you can watch this game?

[skullverine]

I was hoping to see Nani and Ronaldo on the pitch.

also, http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=477226&CPID=8&clid=1&lid=&title=Tevez+wants+quick+soluti on

so, he's due for a medical

[Lami]

Well i think Alex said no Nani, Hargreaves or Anderson. It was an ok game. Man U were still on a holiday.

[Wan]

Try this for the vid although they're not complete they still have some goal vid..

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=search_vid eos&search_query=Urawa&search_sort=video_date_uploade d&search_category=0&search=Search&v=

[wrathchild_uk]

ok......what the fuck was going on with Van der sar for the 1st goal, still abit worrying about his weakness from long-range shots. although they were abit slow to close the player down in the 1st place!

[Sully]

West Ham have refused to give Tevez permission to have a medical at United

[Top Gun]

West Ham have refused to give Tevez permission to have a medical at United

Just seen this, he is in Manchester but West Ham have refused. What are they going to do with him then? They didn't take him on tour with them and now won't let him move. I'm still confident he will have the medical and the move will be completed by the end of the week.

[ecureuil]

West Ham can fuck off, the bunch of cunts.

[Hunter]

From what's been spreading around, apparently Tevez's mafia-agents are holding West Ham at ransom, threatening to leak documents of the controversial transfer to Sheffied United associates and the FA.

Still think Tevez will move.

[mufcsean]

I think West Ham will be forced to let him go as i read ages ago that Tevez would spill the beans about what happened if they dont let him go

[wrathchild_uk]

Looked like Tevez had kidnapped someone.. :ninja:

[vanNistelrooy]

Wasn't the first goal deflected? If so, can't really blame Edwin for it.

[Stormrider]

Wasn't the first goal deflected? If so, can't really blame Edwin for it.

Nope, poor keeping, poor marking.

[skullverine]

Apparently, David Gill hoping that the medical will be done at some point this week. Better hope this will happen

[wrathchild_uk]

Nope, poor keeping, poor marking.

exactly!

[skullverine]

latest on Tevez

Carlos Tevez is going to Fifa in an attempt to secure his move to Manchester United.

The Argentina international is currently in Manchester as he waits to undergo a medical with the Premier League champions.

West Ham United have prevented the tests taking place after talks between the two clubs failed to bring about a resolution to the impasse.

The Hammers insist no offer has been made for Tevez, although The Red Devils have expressed their optimism that a deal can be arranged.

The problem centres on the striker's contractual situation, with West Ham seemingly holding his playing registration and his agent Kia Joorabchian holding the economic rights.

Only last week, Fifa confirmed it would be prepared to intervene in the matter, if asked to by any of the parties involved.

Tevez has now taken the issue in to his own hands and has called on world football's governing body to wade into the complex affair.

He wants Fifa's Disputes Resolution Chamber to rule on the subject as Tevez looks to free himself from his West Ham contract.

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=477428&CPID=8&clid=21&lid=2&title=Tevez+takes+contract+row +to+Fifa

[Barry]

Fucking mercenary.

[skullverine]

It's getting really boring. I think the earliest Tevez will join is in January next year.

[Mambo]

It's getting really boring. I think the earliest Tevez will join is in January next year.

'true dat' I can't help but yawn when I read everyday the same bloody thing regarding problems with the Tevez transfer. A deal for Huntelaar looks more attractive every day this shit goes on, less hassle, less dough. , and less of a gamble with respect to seeing how he and Rooney would work together vs how Rooney and Tevez would work together. All this interchangeable stuff sounds fucking good on paper, but will it work in practice?

[AgentZero]

yeh January looks more liek a certainty

[Zoolander]

Lets have a no Tevez zone for a couple of weeks.

[Keyser Soze]

Lets have a no Tevez zone for a couple of weeks.

You're right, man. You've been linked with shit loads of players anyway;


Bentley to United?! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_T%C3%A9vez)
Robinho wants move? (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yK2ucVW6BKY)
Fergie eyes Spanian (http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=387577726 0)






http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4923/imageshc4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4796/pcarlostevez201th9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Top Gun]

In the papers today they were showing pictures of Tevez with a plaster on his arm. Apparantly it is from a blood test so the medical could of went ahead without West Ham's consent.

[Sully]

In the papers today they were showing pictures of Tevez with a plaster on his arm. Apparantly it is from a blood test so the medical could of went ahead without West Ham's consent.

Shirley thats against the rules and you'll get punished if it is true

[Top Gun]

I guess that should be so, unless he says that he is just giving blood.

















































And don't call me Shirley.

[Dundon's]

Just said I'd pop in and say that the T-shirt you girls will be wearing next season is off the charts bad.

http://store.manutd.com/product_images/maxzoom/prd_maxzoom_237924-666.jpg

You deserve it though. :D

[Top Gun]

As long as they slap on the Champions badge on the sleeve I'm happy. :D

Haven't Arsenal got a White kit next season? *cough*Tottenham*cough*

[Dundon's]

Our colors have always been red and white mate, don't see what's changed really, at least ours doesn't look like something you'd get free after a marathon. :laugh:

[Top Gun]

Our colors have always been red and white mate, don't see what's changed really, at least ours doesn't look like something you'd get free after a marathon. :laugh:

I thought that Red and White were the colours for your home kit, then usually something totally different for the away. Anyway I would rather see more important things going well than how good the kit looks.

[vanNistelrooy]

Shirley thats against the rules and you'll get punished if it is true
Let's hope our punishment isn't as severe as Chelsea's every time you break the rules.

I don't think I could cope with my club getting a £2.50 fine and a slap on the hand!
Just said I'd pop in and say that the T-shirt you girls will be wearing next season is off the charts bad.

http://store.manutd.com/product_images/maxzoom/prd_maxzoom_237924-666.jpg

You deserve it though. :D
But it improves 100% and looks better with yours as it will have a "Premiership Winners" badge on each sleeve ;)

[Zoolander]

Our colors have always been red and white mate, don't see what's changed really, at least ours doesn't look like something you'd get free after a marathon. :laugh:

http://file.shanghaidaily.com/News/Image//2007/2007-06/2007-06-25/20070625_320876_01.jpg

[Dundon's]

Anyway I would rather see more important things going well than how good the kit looks.

True, you're just the ones wearing it that's all. :rolleyes:


@God: We're over him, he's so yesterday.

[Top Gun]

Winning trophys > How the kit looks

[Dundon's]

Us walking around in our kits > you in walking around in yours

[Top Gun]

Us winning trophys > You battling for 3rd place

[Dundon's]

Just face it, the red T-shirt your wearing next season is cat. We'll have to wait and see how things work out as regards where we finish but you'd be a fool to write off the best footballing side in England.

Just because you paid over the top for 3 players doesn't mean anything, didn't we beat you ladies home and away last season? :cool:

[Top Gun]

We won two games last season aswell, we also won the Premiership, got to the Semi-Finals of the Champions League (only playing well once or twice) and the final of the F.A cup. :rolleyes:

I would rather pay "over the odds" for 3 players than buy 16 year olds which 95% of will never be heard from again.

[Zoolander]

Just face it, the red T-shirt your wearing next season is cat. We'll have to wait and see how things work out as regards where we finish but you'd be a fool to write off the best footballing side in England.

Just because you paid over the top for 3 players doesn't mean anything, didn't we beat you ladies home and away last season? :cool:

Didn't you guys used to win things?

[Dundon's]

When we did we done it in style too my friend, on that note, how many times have you ever won the premiership unbeaten?

None you say, oh right, :erm:

wait.... I know why, that's because we're the only team in history ever to do it which is kinda legendary and ultra cool. :cool:

We're rebuilding that's all, you'll see when we beat you again twice this year, handy 6 points for us. :)

[Top Gun]

Treble > Unbeaten Premiership season. I don't think anyone has ever won the full treble. :rolleyes:

[Dundon's]

dInvincibles kiddo, that's what they will be remembered as. The team that no one could ever beat. :cool:

[Zoolander]

Dundon's don't take your anger out on us, I know it's hard to take the power shift in north London.

[Viperized]

Blahblahblah. :mellow:

[Sully]

dInvisibles kiddo, that's what they will be remembered as. The team that no one could ever beat. :cool:

They couldn't be seen by the naked eye ¬_¬

[Top Gun]

I can see Arsenal fans having to fall back on that unbeaten Premiership season as much as the Liverpool fans do on the Champions League titles. Arsenal clearly are in a downfall, the structure of the club is built so much on respect for Wenger that if he leaves the club will be in trouble. They don't care for Arsenal Football Club they care for Wenger, Fabregas has said as much.

[Dundon's]

They couldn't be seen by the naked eye ¬_¬


Don't you fucking start me now, I'm not too impressed with you and your shit talk last night, it's good fucking idea because it doesn't effect you and your cunt of a team. The format is wrong and you know it. Top 6 already played a whole season to decide who deserved to be in the 1st and 2nd division, this other rule doesn't even make sense and is pointless.

But whatever yea we'll get over it.

[Sully]

Don't you fucking start me now, I'm not too impressed with you and your shit talk last night, it's good fucking idea because it doesn't effect you and your cunt of a team. The format is wrong and you know it. Top 6 already played a whole season to decide who deserved to be in the 2nd division, this other rule doesn't even make sense and is pointless.

But whatever yea we'll get over it.

This isn't the place for that discussion.

[Viperized]

We won two games last season aswell, we also won the Premiership, got to the Semi-Finals of the Champions League (only playing well once or twice) and the final of the F.A cup. :rolleyes:

I would rather pay "over the odds" for 3 players than buy 16 year olds which 95% of will never be heard from again.
Both of Arsenal's latest signings are 19. Sagna and Eduardo are 24. Arsenal are in debt and lack the funds to splash the cash on players anyway. The transfer budget is limited at the moment.

>_>

[Zoolander]

Both of Arsenal's latest signings are 19. Sagna and Eduardo are 24. Arsenal are in debt and lack the funds to splash the cash on players anyway. The transfer budget is limited at the moment.

>_>

You've been saying that for 10 years. Considering Wenger makes a profit on his signings & never wastes money...

[Jonny2J]

When we did we done it in style too my friend, on that note, how many times have you ever won the premiership unbeaten?

None you say, oh right, :erm:

wait.... I know why, that's because we're the only team in history ever to do it which is kinda legendary and ultra cool. :cool:

We're rebuilding that's all, you'll see when we beat you again twice this year, handy 6 points for us. :)Tbf I'm looking at this from a neutral standpoint, well perhaps not as I despite Man Utd and everyone knows I do like Arsenal, but Man Utd's achievements over the past 15 years dwarf Arsenal winning the league unbeaten I'm afraid Dundon's.

Both of Arsenal's latest signings are 19. Sagna and Eduardo are 24. Arsenal are in debt and lack the funds to splash the cash on players anyway. The transfer budget is limited at the moment.

>_>Didn't Hill-Wood recently come out and actually say that the stadium hasn't effected the transfer budget and only made it stronger?

[Dundon's]

This isn't the place for that discussion.

Then stay the fuck away from me, I'm sickened with you.

[Sully]

Piss off. I can post in whatever thread I like. If you're that sickened put me on ignore.

Anywho I totally agree with Jonny

[Viperized]

I can see Arsenal fans having to fall back on that unbeaten Premiership season as much as the Liverpool fans do on the Champions League titles. Arsenal clearly are in a downfall, the structure of the club is built so much on respect for Wenger that if he leaves the club will be in trouble. They don't care for Arsenal Football Club they care for Wenger, Fabregas has said as much.
They?

No, only Fabregas feels he will leave when Wenger leaves.

[Zoolander]

How about we settle this with an old fashioned roll about outside?

[Viperized]

Tbf I'm looking at this from a neutral standpoint, well perhaps not as I despite Man Utd and everyone knows I do like Arsenal, but Man Utd's achievements over the past 15 years dwarf Arsenal winning the league unbeaten I'm afraid Dundon's.

Didn't Hill-Wood recently come out and actually say that the stadium hasn't effected the transfer budget and only made it stronger?
It's a load of shit.

Arsenal have barely any money to spend. I think I'd rather believe Wenger than Hill-Wood.

Wenger said himself that Arsenal may have to sell to buy. And he was right.

[Top Gun]

Tbf I'm looking at this from a neutral standpoint, well perhaps not as I despite Man Utd and everyone knows I do like Arsenal, but Man Utd's achievements over the past 15 years dwarf Arsenal winning the league unbeaten I'm afraid Dundon's.

Didn't Hill-Wood recently come out and actually say that the stadium hasn't effected the transfer budget and only made it stronger?

What he and Sully said.

They?

No, only Fabregas feels he will leave when Wenger leaves.

No. Fabregas is the only one to say it, I'm sure he would not be the only one.

[Jonny2J]

It's a load of shit.

Arsenal have barely any money to spend. I think I'd rather believe Wenger than Hill-Wood.

Wenger said himself that Arsenal may have to sell to buy. And he was right.I'm sorry Viper, I just always thought Hill-Wood was a well respect Chairman who only speaks when he actually has to, unlike our fool of a Chairman who has no credibility, that's why I believed him. :'(

[Dundon's]

Piss off. I can post in whatever thread I like. If you're that sickened put me on ignore.

Anywho I totally agree with Jonny

Typical coming from a yes man.

@Jonny: No one will ever do what we done ever again, no one.

But yes of course they have won more then us in recent times, isn't that a little obvious though. :mellow:

This still doesn't change the fact that their new all red T-shirt sucks ass.

[Zoolander]

It's a load of shit.

Arsenal have barely any money to spend. I think I'd rather believe Wenger than Hill-Wood.

Wenger said himself that Arsenal may have to sell to buy. And he was right.

My Ian Harte bleeds for you. :crymore: I know lets build a stadium so we can blame the lack of cash on that.

[Sully]

Typical coming from a yes man.

@Jonny: No one will ever do what we done ever again, no one.

But yes of course they have won more then us in recent times, isn't that a little obvious though. :mellow:

This still doesn't change the fact that their new all red T-shirt sucks ass.

Whatever dude

[Jonny2J]

Typical coming from a yes man.

@Jonny: No one will ever do what we done ever again, no one.

But yes of course they have won more then us in recent times, isn't that a little obvious though. :mellow:

This still doesn't change the fact that their new all red T-shirt sucks ass.How do you know that?

[Sully]

Teams will do it again. Chelsea was one game away from doing so a couple years back. The gap in quality between the big three and the rest is getting wider and I can see it happening again in the next few years

[Dundon's]

How do you know that?

Ok it might happen in another 100 years time.

[Top Gun]

Ok it might happen in another 100 years time.

I could easily say the same for the Treble which is a much harder achievement.

[Dundon's]

Yes you could say the same thing I won't argue with that. But history has shown that the team on top form normally gets close to the winning the double anyways and now with the English sides over taking or at least matching the top European sides, the treble is much on the cards again.

But winning the league unbeaten, that's like 38 games in a row. Way harder and well more tricky..

[Top Gun]

Yes you could say the same thing I won't argue with that. But history has shown that the team on top form normally gets close to the winning the double anyways and now with the English sides over taking or at least matching the top European sides, the treble is much on the cards again.

But winning the league unbeaten, that's like 38 games in a row. Way harder and well more tricky..

I wouldn't say so. Not losing to 2 or 3 top quality teams in the Premiership can't compare to beating the same teams plus beating Europe's finest. We lost 4 games during the Treble season, including League Cup. I would be interested to see how many games Arsenal lost in all competitions during the Invincible season.

[Jonny2J]

Yes you could say the same thing I won't argue with that. But history has shown that the team on top form normally gets close to the winning the double anyways and now with the English sides over taking or at least matching the top European sides, the treble is much on the cards again.

But winning the league unbeaten, that's like 38 games in a row. Way harder and well more tricky..I'm going to have to disagree on that one I'm afraid.

[Dundon's]

Yea it's close though. :rolleyes:

[Zoolander]

Arsenal top of the league! :w00t

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8036/untitleddx4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Top Gun]

Just been checking during the Invincible season Arsenal lost 3 games in the Champions League, lost 1 in the F.A Cup and 1 in the League Cup. So they lost one more game than us and won 2 less trophies than we did in the Treble season.

[vanNistelrooy]

But shhhh their's is better! :D

[Viperized]

Arsenal top of the league! :w00t

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8036/untitleddx4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Hooray!!

[Cannon ball]

Us above the reds!!

[vanNistelrooy]

Us above the reds!!
Liverpool above us both! :realmad:

Anyone got the goals for the 4-0 win over FC Seoul?

[Dundon's]

Just been checking during the Invincible season Arsenal lost 3 games in the Champions League, lost 1 in the F.A Cup and 1 in the League Cup. So they lost one more game than us and won 2 less trophies than we did in the Treble season.

Yes but we went through the entire league unbeaten, that's my point.

P.S. I know you're sorry it's ok. :tongue:

[Top Gun]

Yes but we went through the entire league unbeaten, that's my point.

P.S. I know you're sorry it's ok. :tongue:

My point is, you lost one more game and won 2 less trophies. How can that be a more successful season?

[Dundon's]

It's hard to for me to try and explain it because it just is. :dribble:

P.S. You can even ask Stella or Viper.

[Guillermo]

P.S. You can even ask Stella or Viper.

Or a non-Arse rimmer. ;)

[Wan]

Or a Chelski fan.

[Top Gun]

Or a Chelski fan.

Don't you support Chelsea?

[Wan]

Yea.
So ask me!
Lol..

[Top Gun]

Why do you call them Chelski then?

[Wan]

For fun.
btw, what's the meaning of chelski?

[AgentZero]

oh shit he doesnt know:laugh:, must be a 2006 supporter.

Chelsea FC + Ruski owner = Chelski

[Wan]

What's Ruski?
I thought that Abramovich was Russian?

[nickpring]

What's Ruski?
I thought that Abramovich was Russian?

lol ;)

Ruski is Russian, so Chel + ski = Chelski

[Wan]

Oh I get it..
i thought Chelsea was called like that because Russia pronounsation was different..
"sea" in english was "ski" in Russian..

[AgentZero]

oh dear, in other words we're just giving chelsea a russian feel to it.

[skullverine]

oh shit he doesnt know:laugh:, must be a 2006 supporter.

Chelsea FC + Ruski owner = Chelski

haha. You've uncovered a secret.



By the way, what's everyone favourite chants? Mine is The Red Flag.

We'll never die, we'll never die,
We'll never die, we'll never die,
We'll keep the red flag flying high,
Cause Man United will never die.

[AgentZero]

glory glory is mine. Player based one cant beat Gary Nev is a red or Wayne rooney (white pele).

[Hunter]

Loads, e.g.:

The Calypso
United Road
Red Flag Flying High
If You Want to go to Heaven When You Die

Nemanja (newer one but still a good laugh)


Those are my favourites from when I go to Old Trafford, I'm sure there'll be many more classic oldies' that I won't have heard much though. Shame.

[Jonny2J]

None as good as the Ameobi Okie-Kokie mind. :happy:

[ecureuil]

New away shirt?

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/9486/manutdawayya9.jpg

[Zoolander]

Dong Fangzhuo has flown into Macau to join up with his United team-mates following China's exit from the Asian Cup.

The Chinese national team were knocked out of the competition on Wednesday after losing 3-0 to Uzbekistan.

Sir Alex confirmed the 22-year-old striker has been reunited with the Reds but said that he will not be involved in the team's remaining two matches during their Far East tour.

"He needs his rest after being involved with the Asian Cup for the past three weeks," explained the United boss. "He's a good young player and we have high hopes for him."

The Reds take on Shenzhen FC at Macau Stadium on Monday night in the third of their four-game Asia trip.

Sweet & sour source (http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BB4CEE8F A%2D9A47%2D47BC%2DB069%2D3F7A2 F35DB70%7D&newsid=446496)

Can't wait to see some Dong action.

[skullverine]

well, the boss said he won't play

[Dmitris]

New away shirt?

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/9486/manutdawayya9.jpg

Black? Ronaldo will look good in that!

[skullverine]

it looks good in front-view. I really hope that there won't be any stripe on the back

[ecureuil]

it looks good in front-view. I really hope that there won't be any stripe on the back

Apparently there's a stripe on the back..

[Wan]

Why?

[Zoolander]

Why?

It's experimental Nike technology. Helps the air flow down the crack like a dorsal fin.

[Wan]

OO..
Looks like Nike have one like Adidas too..

[AgentZero]

Black? Ronaldo will look good in that!

looks like our third as we've had the blue for two seasons

has anderson been unveiled yet?

[skullverine]

It's experimental Nike technology. Helps the air flow down the crack like a dorsal fin.
I thought it's for making our player look taller

[Zoolander]

I thought it's for making our player look taller

Don't be silly.

[skullverine]

Haha.

Also, the fitness coach has rejoined Real Madrid. According to the Sun, Giggs and Brown are being offered for a new contract

[Zoolander]

I must say I like Evra's attitude. Watching his interview on SSN, he comes across as always striving to better himself.

[Dundon's]

He's useless anyways.

*Gones*

[Jesus]

No, Evra is a very good player. He attacks very well and makes good passes. He can't defend well and makes very good forward runs so he is more of Left Wing Back than a Left Back. I've noticed that he plays better when Gary Neville is playing. Anyone else noticed that?