Manchester United

[Wan]

Manchester United are in pole position to sign Miguel Veloso from Sporting Lisbon, ahead of Arsenal and Chelsea. (Sunday Express)

[beetwee]

sean the name is awful

the name?!?!?
How about that picture?:crymore: :no:

[Wan]

That picture is better than awful. :ninja:

[AgentZero]

its atrocious

[mufcsean]

it's only for today,

Is anybody else annoyed that we are trying to buy Veloso for £20m, we really don't need another central midfielder, we need a striker, and £20m could get us a bloody good striker

[beetwee]

Who?

[Wan]

I don't think Man Utd need another central midfielder.
You've got Scholes, Carrick, Hargreaves, Fletcher.

[beetwee]

That are three good ones and one ???? so I guess you could use one or two class players.
And Scholes isn't getting any younger anyway.
Maybe Affelay from PSV would be a good signing.

[Jesus]

Aissati or Affelay would be good.

I always thought Veloso is a CB. :unsure: Anyway 20 million is too much for him!

EDIT: Huntelaar, Huntelaar, Huntelaar!!!!!!!!!

[AgentZero]

dont need another midfielder we should invest in a striker if we were to go for anyone.
Huntelaar and Menez.

[mufcsean]

Carlos Queiroz has indicated that he would like to become Manchester United manager by declaring that he wants to stay at Old Trafford for another decade.

The Portuguese tactician has been Sir Alex Ferguson's assistant for five years in two separate spells.

Ferguson has yet to decide when he will step down but Queiroz, who has managerial experience with Real Madrid, believes he will have age and experience on his side when that time does arrive.

"I came here with a set of well defined functions which I carry out today and which I can do in the future," he told the News of the World.

"The conditions are here for me to stay another eight or 10 years.

"Sir Alex is happy, I'm happy, the Glazers are happy.

"If they think I should stay on, it is up to them. I've got extremely comfortable conditions in Manchester."

Queiroz has been linked with the role of Portugal coach but he claims he would not want to be considered.

"No Portuguese coach should ignore that possibility but I'm not offering myself," he said.

"Nor will I be available at any price."

This is something i worry about regularly. Who will replace Fergie? How do you replace somebody like SAF? For me personally i think there are 3 main candidates, Mark Hughes, because of his history at the club and how well he has done with Blackburn, Roy Keane, again because of history with us, and Queiroz, he knows the squad very well, he has been with us for a long time.

Other names are Jose Mourinho, but i don't expect Fergie to be quitting any time any time soon, and i doubt Mourinho won't be managing some other team by then, Marcello Lippi, he is a friend of Fergie's and he has been linked to us before.

What does everybody else think?

[AgentZero]

im for Carlos Quieroz, he knows the club well and this relatively young side has developed with and under him.

[Phatmann]

im for Carlos Quieroz, he knows the club well and this relatively young side has developed with and under him.
He is also a rubbish manager. He did a great job with Real Madrid. :|

[vanNistelrooy]

It doesn't matter if you DO do a good job at Real, they still sack you :/

Hehe, I said do do.

[AgentZero]

He is also a rubbish manager. He did a great job with Real Madrid. :|
he was prevented from doing an even better job.

[Top Gun]

Fergie Happy With His Lot

Sir Alex Ferguson has ruled out a January swoop for Tottenham striker Dimitar Berbatov. Both Berbatov and Bolton hitman Nicolas Anelka have been linked with big-money moves to Manchester United during the transfer window. But Sir Alex insists he is happy with the talent he currently has at his disposal. The United boss said: "We don't always get great joy in January and I think the squad is good enough. It takes time for players to settle in when they are midway through the season — so we are conscious of that. Maybe we are short of cover in the left-back area now Gabriel Heinze has left, but other than that we are okay."

I'm not too surprised, I think he still thinks Saha is going to come good again. But if he doesn't by the end of the season I expect he will be on his way.

[Jesus]

Yes, I agree with you Top Gun. I didn't think he would have been so patient with him anyway.

I don't think the, "It's my way or the highway" scenario can be done so often again. The other teams will snap the player, if the latter adapts, that wouldn't be good for us.

[AgentZero]

Saha was ok last season if he could only capture the form he had whilst at fulham ill be more than happy.
Someones gotta do some work on hargreaves accent.

[Top Gun]

Saha was ok last season if he could only capture the form he had whilst at fulham ill be more than happy.
Someones gotta do some work on hargreaves accent.

He has one good season then a bad one, etc. When he first joined he was brilliant and looked one of the best in the league, then he got injured. Then 05-06 he scored 15 or 16 in total after missing 2 months, then last season he was crap. He's due his good season but I can't see it happening.

[AgentZero]

well its hard when you have Rooney Tevez combo. Which brings up my next point, we need a zazzy name for that combination. Had Blues brother for Yorke+Cole.
TevRoon, TevWay, WaVez??...

[fick]

Hows about little & little?

[Meyyappan]

What about the shreks-one shall be english shrek(wayne) while the other argentinian(carlitos)

[Jesus]

I'm eager to see how the Shreks are going to walk, or stampede is a better word here past your defence.

[Meyyappan]

Whose defence you mean?

[Jesus]

It is pretty obvious, make your mind up and see for yourself.

I do hope their asses are kicked by our pair of strikers.[Not the other way round, hopefully)

[AgentZero]

Wayne Carlos..simple but got something sexual about it.

[mufcsean]

How about Rooney & Tevez?

------------van der sar------------
brown-----rio-------vidic------evra
ronaldo-hargreaves--anderson-giggs
-----------rooney-tevez-----------

tonights line up

[AgentZero]

Ronaldo volley

[Keyser Soze]

That was truely beautiful; Davis gifted it to him but what a finish.

[vanNistelrooy]

Tevez could have put that one away. Actually.... :unsure:

[AgentZero]

saha is useless..

[mufcsean]

Ronaldo's first was beautiful, great ball in by O' Shea put a great ball in for his second, decent header aswell, Saha wasted a glorious opportunity, that miss summed him up for me really. I'm not sure if that was a penalty. I watched it on a stream and couldn't really tell

[PEM]

Ronaldo's first was beautiful, great ball in by O' Shea put a great ball in for his second, decent header aswell, Saha wasted a glorious opportunity, that miss summed him up for me really. I'm not sure if that was a penalty. I watched it on a stream and couldn't really tell
same. i watched it the same way as you. it looked like a Pen but tevez is so greedy there were so many opportunity's where he could have played Ronaldo in. Ronaldo should have had 4-5 today.

[spoonzwba]

ronaldo really is a different class. He has changed his style of play since he first joined united and he is just amazing to watch. One of the best players in the world at the moment. ;)

[AgentZero]

Ronaldo's first was beautiful, great ball in by O' Shea put a great ball in for his second, decent header aswell, Saha wasted a glorious opportunity, that miss summed him up for me really. I'm not sure if that was a penalty. I watched it on a stream and couldn't really tell

this might sound crazy but i reckon twas a pen, niemi was nowhere near the ball and he clipped ronldos leg. Remember lehmann at teh Champions league final? similar except that ronaldos past misdemeanor got the better of him.

[mufcsean]

Rooney went mad when he was given offside :laugh: It was very close but there was no need for that.

Next game is a home game against Derby, should be an easy 3 points, Arsenal have a tough game against Middlesborough, which is away, i know Middlesborough are on poor form lately but they always seem to give the better teams tough games at the Riverside so hopefully Arsenal will slip up.

EDIT: Arsenal are away to Newcastle first actually on Wednesday

[Del Piero]

Dont write off the mighty reds though weve got reading next and we are hot on your tails!

With a game in hand might i add

[PEM]

Rooney went mad when he was given offside :laugh: It was very close but there was no need for that.

Next game is a home game against Derby, should be an easy 3 points, Arsenal have a tough game against Middlesborough, which is away, i know Middlesborough are on poor form lately but they always seem to give the better teams tough games at the Riverside so hopefully Arsenal will slip up.
their last win was against us blues. :huh: so really expect a win.

[Jesus]

Fulham fought well but with the referees help. Their players aren't outstanding but I wonder what the manager told them, they were playing well but our players are the better:smug:.

There were lots of off side decisions against us, Ronaldo got a booking for being tripped by the keeper. For once the referee wasn't with us but with the other side! I'm glad the other bastards won't be here moaning about the ref being with on our side!

It was indeed a penalty for Ronaldo. Rooney wasn't off-side but on. There few correct decisions in this game.

Clint Dempsey caught my eye (again) yesterday.

[Phatmann]

He plays on the left, he plays on the riiiight. That boy Ronaldo makes England look shite.

Despite letting in 2 goals yesterday, I thought Niemi had a fantastic game.

Fulham = worst away fans in the prem? Every now and then they'd start singing "come on Fulham" and a couple of them got chucked out but that's about all I remember of them.

We played quite well but Fulham, bar Niemi, looked uninterested for the whole game.

[Meyyappan]

Yes, I agree with you Top Gun. I didn't think he would have been so patient with him anyway.

I don't think the, "It's my way or the highway" scenario can be done so often again. The other teams will snap the player, if the latter adapts, that wouldn't be good for us.

Its got nothing to do with "It's my way or the highway" scenario,its rather that the glazers dont want to supply any more money after shelling out cash in summer.

[mufcsean]

Yeah i have seen the trip on Ronaldo and i think it was a penalty.

Maradona - Rooney better than Kaka

Diego Maradona does not believe Kaka is the best player in the world after he picked up the Ballon d'Or.

Indeed the Argentine legend says that Manchester Unietd and England star Wayne Rooney has more to offer than the Brazilian - who was crowned World Footballer of the Year at the weekend.

"I don't know too well how the election is done but I think that Rooney is better than Kaka," Maradona explained in El Grafico.

"Milan is a team that depends all the time on Kaka but that doesn't make him the best player in the world."

Boca loyalty

Maradona also looked ahead to the Fifa Club World Cup which kicks-off in Japan later this month and where his beloved Boca Juniors are favourites, along with Milan, to meet in the final.

"In my opinion Boca has chances to win the Fifa Club Championship. Everyone is talking about Milan, but if Kaka doesn't play well they will be in problems because they depend too much on him," he said.

"I am not scared of Milan, I only want Boca to get to the competition in good physical condition."

Speaking of his current favourites in football - Maradona ruled on who he feels is the pick of his fellow countrymen.

"At the moment the best three Argentinian players are Lionel Messi, Sergio Aguero and Juan Roman Riquelme.

:shocking:

[fick]

Maradona - Rooney better than Kaka

Diego Maradona does not believe Kaka is the best player in the world after he picked up the Ballon d'Or.

Indeed the Argentine legend says that Manchester Unietd and England star Wayne Rooney has more to offer than the Brazilian

Maradonna should stop the drugs. Lil' Rooney may have more to offer, but as the golden ball joke trophy is for best footballer for the past year, then even as a Salford Red i'd have to say Kaka hands down.

[Stella Artois]

Is what I read correct, in that Ronaldo cheated yet again?

[mufcsean]

Well i wasn't sure at the time but i've seen it a few times now and i think it should have been a penalty, Niemi was nowhere near the ball and he clearly caught Ronaldo, i think Ronaldo was booked for complainin to much rather than diving though.

[Top Gun]

Is what I read correct, in that Ronaldo cheated yet again?

There wasn't much contact but that was only because Ronaldo had to jump over him. It was one of those which you've seen given but it definitely wasn't a dive.

[Wan]

Cristiano Ronaldo says his mum will be angry with Rob Styles after the referee denied the Manchester United winger a chance of a hat-trick against Fulham on Monday. He was instead booked for diving and Ronaldo said: "My mum sometimes says to me 'Why do you never score a hat-trick?' But I tell her I'm happy to keep scoring two goals."

What a caring mum.

[AgentZero]

bit much isnt it mum?

[Wan]

Check it again. :ninja:

[AgentZero]

just watchin the highlights of vs Fulham again, is rio trying to be a good olf fashioned libero?

[Jesus]

I don't believe what Maradona said. A few weeks earlier the bastard was praising Tevez, and what shit and now he talks only about Kaka' and Rooney! What if Tevez and Rooney were Brazilian, I doubt he'd have said that!

[Dundon's]

Lads I don't care if Moses came down from the mountain with a new table saying God told him so.

Rooney is not better than Kaka. :coffee:

[Jesus]

I never said the opposite. :erm:

[Miggy]

But Messi is better then them both :smug:

[AgentZero]

Lads I don't care if Moses came down from the mountain with a new table saying God told him so.

Rooney is not better than Kaka. :coffee:

thank you captain obvious

[wrigh2uk]

Maradona, Platini, Pele, all great players but they talk way too much bullshit like ALL THE TIME!!!!!

[Dundon's]

I never said the opposite. :erm:

That wasn't directed at you pal. :)

[Jesus]

:blush:

Okay. ;)

[Jesus]

What do you think of his way of playing now and what did you think before? To the football not his character!

I think he has improved greatly, from a crazy guy on the pitch who'd keep trying to beat his man when he could have easily passed and get the ball again to a good and less selfish player(in contrast to how he was before) in recent times.

I think he should start using his brains more while playing and improve his free-kicks.

[vanNistelrooy]

Still has a hell of a lot to learn.

[Stella Artois]

Stick this shit in the United thread.

[Meyyappan]

I think cesc is better.

Edit: i meant comparing him of last season to this season.How many think cristiano had peaked last season?

[Zoolander]

Stick this shit in the United thread.

.

Woops!

[Phatmann]

:|

[Top Gun]

Why is it called Cristiano Ronaldo still, you idiot.

[Zoolander]

I've had a busy day at work. Fuck you!

[Stella Artois]

Alright TG, calm down precious.

[Meyyappan]

In how many hours is the arsenal game ?

[Top Gun]

I've had a busy day at work. Fuck you!

Now the poll is screwed.

Sack please. :no:

[Zoolander]

In how many hours is the arsenal game ?

1 hour & a bit. This isn't the Arsenal thread.

[Phatmann]

Now the poll is screwed.

Sack please. :no:

Trying to get God sacked? :ohmy:

You should get booked for that. :shifty:

[Top Gun]

Trying to get God sacked? :ohmy:

You should get booked for that. :shifty:

Trying to get someone booked, you can get booked for that.

Not that I'm suggesting the rule should be used. :shifty:

[Meyyappan]

1 hour & a bit. This isn't the Arsenal thread.

Sorry and thanks.

[Phatmann]

Trying to get someone booked, you can get booked for that.

Not that I'm suggesting the rule should be used. :shifty:

I'm just helping out the admins. http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/4997/armsfoldedgv6.png

[Top Gun]

I'm just helping out the admins. http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/4997/armsfoldedgv6.png

You suggesting they're not capable by themselves? :shifty:

[mufcsean]

Dundon's if you were talking to me about Rooney not being better than Kaka's then you misread, i posted a :shocking: after it because i was shocked he said that, as it is rubbish.

Anyway, i was thinking earlier about Gary Neville, he has been out for a long time now and i personally think we won't be seeing much more from him now, but, the worrying thing is who'll replace him, Brown has done an OK job there but i don't think he is the long term solution.

When do those Brazilian brothers come to us, have we signed them or what?

[Zoolander]

Jan or end of the season I think. We might go for Shorey for cover at left back.

[Top Gun]

I've been hearing a lot about linking us Sagnol recently. He has fallen out with the Bayern manager aswell, not that he will be a long term replacement.

[mufcsean]

Jan or end of the season I think. We might go for Shorey for cover at left back.

:no:

[Wan]

Why?
Shorey's decent right?

[Zoolander]

Why?
Shorey's decent right?

He's better on the left. :shifty:

[mufcsean]

:laugh:

He is good, for a team like Reading, he isn't quite up to the standard of player we usually buy, i can think of at least 10 better left backs than him who i'd like to sign, reasonable as well, not just the 10 best Lb's

[Wan]

He's better on the left. :shifty:

Jan or end of the season I think. We might go for Shorey for cover at left back.

:rolleyes:

[blob123]

:laugh:

He is good, for a team like Reading, he isn't quite up to the standard of player we usually buy, i can think of at least 10 better left backs than him who i'd like to sign, reasonable as well, not just the 10 best Lb's

10 ??? Ok you have my attention. Name them...
....and don't start naming players like Cafu or J.Zanetti who are over 30. Most signings are made based on their age (value over time)

[Jesus]

I guess Sagnol would be a good buy. He'd running and tackling the opposition wingers down the wing until Simpson or the samba boy is ready!

EDIT: Arsenal drawed! :dancer:

I shouldn't be so happy, they're 4 points clear!

[Preki-USA]

Cafu plays right back.

10 left backs better than Nicky Shorey:


Drenthe
Marcelo
Jansen
Pander
Baines
Bridge
Maxwell
Jankulovski
Chiellini
Atouba
Drago

I'm sure theres more, just give me a second.

[Wan]

But Sagnol isn't too young.
You guys are related to Hutton before this.

But Preki they wouldn't be available as cheap as Shorey.
And Shorey is just for backup for Evra.

[Keyser Soze]

Cafu plays right back.

10 left backs better than Nicky Shorey:


Drenthe
Marcelo
Jansen
Pander
Baines
Bridge
Maxwell
Jankulovski
Chiellini
Atouba
Drago

I'm sure theres more, just give me a second.
There's shit loads more, Shorey is pretty mediocre.

[Preki-USA]

There's shit loads more, Shorey is pretty mediocre.

No really? :laugh:

Of course there are, they'd overpay for Shorey just like every other English player. Go get Pander for a couple million and you'd have a great player.

[Jesus]

After seeing Drenthe, I think playing him at LB would be a waste of potential in a way. He's got a good stamina and keeps on running and running! He's a good left winger anyway.

Wan, even as backup, I doubt Shorey would be a good investment for an English club.

[Wan]

I heard Drenthe is wanted by Chelsea.
Madrid want to swap him with Malouda though.

[AgentZero]

drenthe, didnt he just sign for madrid? what makes anyone think hell want to leave?

[mufcsean]

Dunno but apparently he wants to, probably bullshit at best though.

[Preki-USA]

He's like 3rd choice left back, and as a winger he's got Robinho and god knows who else in front of him.

This is why I don't want Jozy Altidore going to Real, they buy up all the young talent and leave it to rot.

[Stella Artois]

Drenthe's crashed a car into a Cop car, been spotted out on the town getting pissed too much, and recently watched a game on the subs bench whilst listening to his I-Pod. It hasn't gone down well with the Madrid hierarchy.

[Meyyappan]

Fergie - Anderson Is The Best
Sir Alex Ferguson has praised Anderson for filling the void left by Paul Scholes' injury.

Scholes is likely to be out until the New Year with a knee injury he picked up in training before United's UEFA Champions League clash with Dynamo Kiev back in October, but he has hardly been missed due to Anderson's recent form.

The Brazilian arrived at Old Trafford in the summer from Porto in a £19million deal and has given Ferguson's side a new dimension in midfield.

His ability to adapt to life in the England League so quickly may have surprised some, but his manager believes that he is merely fulfilling the potential which the club knew he had after agreeing the deal with the Portuguese champions at the end of last season.

Superb

"Anderson has been absolutely superb," Ferguson said.

"The boy has definitely got something special.

"There was an urgency to get him once we'd scouted him, even though he had broken his leg and had been out for four or five months.

"The reports we were getting were saying that he was the best young player in the world.

"I knew he had real potential but I didn't want to put labels on him like that.

"But we have been delighted with him and he has proven himself to be a true central midfield player.

"He can tackle, he is lightening quick, he's brave and he can pass the ball.

"What he's got to prove is his goalscoring ability because that's something that Scholesy has always given us."

Dominated

Ferguson even believes that his new star is better than Arsenal's Cesc Fabregas after leaving the Spaniard in the shade during the 2-2 draw at the Emirates Stadium last month.

"Anderson's battle with Cesc Fabregas against Arsenal was interesting because they were two very influential players in the game," he said.

"The boy Fabregas is going through a golden period at Arsenal, but I thought that Anderson dominated that position."

www.skysports.com/story/0,19...

Really,how many here thinks hes better than cesc,anderson played in the same youth tournament as veela and the the latter got the golden boot and best player of the tournament.:huh:
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[mufcsean]

Nicked this from fanbanta

Has the world's most famous football tournament been fixed?

We take the numbers called out for granted, but check out the video evidence of the wrong number being announced... amazing!

Were Aston Villa always going to draw Man Utd?

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I personally think it's a load of shit. Though we do always play these in the FA Cup

[vanNistelrooy]

Is that legit?

[mufcsean]

Dunno, it is a bit suspicious but the fact there is only the Daily Star that have mentioned it, then i'm sure it is rubbish

[Yossi]

Apparently it was the lighting and the reflection, or so the FA say. And if you look at the 24 ball and 25 ball, you can see it probably was the lighting.

[vanNistelrooy]

I'd agree, but it looked like when he took out 25 (the Boro ball) he was trying to cover some of it.

Brooking even took a moment to say "Manchester United" which would suggest something dodgy.

Not too fussed, but obviously if we go out to Villa I'll throw a huge wobbler.

[AgentZero]

i had a power-nap dream that gudjohnson signed for united.

[Jesus]

I do hope that doesn't happen! :no:

[Top Gun]

Another setback for Neville, he won't be returning against Roma now.

[Top Gun]

Edit: WTF!!

[Jesus]

Edit: WTF!!

WHAT!?!?!?!:shocking:

[AgentZero]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/manchester_united/article3013603.ece

talks of a one of comemorative kit for busby babes...again.
So they'll essentially be putting on last seasons kit.

[Phatmann]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/manchester_united/article3013603.ece

talks of a one of comemorative kit for busby babes...again.
So they'll essentially be putting on last seasons kit.

Did you read the article? :doh: They're gonna be wearing 50's style baggy shirts and shorts apparently, plus it's gonna be exactly 50 years since the disaster so it's fair enough really. Perhaps the commemorative kits that have come out in the past seasons were a bit much though.

[AgentZero]

:doh: just read the epl will relax the sponsorship and numbering rule.
So completely plain shirt with 1-11 for the starters.

[Jesus]

Nooooooo!

That would suck man, really. So, we could end up seeing Ronaldo playing with number 6?!

Has anyone noticed that Barca and Real have different numbering/lettering styles? Or is it that the whole Liga and Serie A team can have different lettering/numbering styles?

[Phatmann]

Nooooooo!

That would suck man, really. So, we could end up seeing Ronaldo playing with number 6?!

Has anyone noticed that Barca and Real have different numbering/lettering styles? Or is it that the whole Liga and Serie A team can have different lettering/numbering styles?

I imagine they will just give Ronaldo number 7, would be a bit silly for him to have number 6 :| Why would they give him 6 anyway?

[AgentZero]

we could see like Tevez get number 9 though :smug:

[Phatmann]

And O'Shea with 3 :smug:

[Jesus]

I imagine they will just give Ronaldo number 7, would be a bit silly for him to have number 6 :| Why would they give him 6 anyway?

I was talking about the new rule LG said.

----------------------1---------------------
-----2----------3----------4---------5------

-----6----------7-----------8--------9------

-----------------10-------11----------------

The kit men would be getting more money! When players play on different positions, their number will differ. I think that new rule is pretty stupid!

[Phatmann]

I was talking about the new rule LG said.

----------------------1---------------------
-----2----------3----------4---------5------

-----6----------7-----------8--------9------

-----------------10-------11----------------

The kit men would be getting more money! When players play on different positions, their number will differ. I think that new rule is pretty stupid!

:| Are you serious?

[Joel]

And O'Shea with 3 :smug:

Even though Evra is a starter and uses #3...




:shifty:

[Keyser Soze]

I was talking about the new rule LG said.

----------------------1---------------------
-----2----------3----------4---------5------

-----6----------7-----------8--------9------

-----------------10-------11----------------

The kit men would be getting more money! When players play on different positions, their number will differ. I think that new rule is pretty stupid!
:doh:

[Jesus]

Yeah. :mellow:

That's what I understood from what LG said!:mellow: Care to explain if it isn't so? I have a hard time understanding what he says. :|

EDIT::doh: just read the epl will relax the sponsorship and numbering rule.
So completely plain shirt with 1-11 for the starters.

[Phatmann]

Even though Evra is a starter and uses #3...




:shifty:

O'Shea > Evra.

On that note, was Evra injured in the Fulham game? cos he didn't seem injured in the first half, and O'Shea was pretty much training all the way through half time, practicing with his left foot. Will Evra be starting the next game or has he been dropped? :shifty:

[Jesus]

:angry:


:doh: just read the epl will relax the sponsorship and numbering rule.
So completely plain shirt with 1-11 for the starters.

Here it is!

[Joel]

O'Shea > Evra.

On that note, was Evra injured in the Fulham game? cos he didn't seem injured in the first half, and O'Shea was pretty much training all the way through half time, practicing with his left foot. Will Evra be starting the next game or has he been dropped? :shifty:

It seemed he was injured. I don't think he can really be dropped, as you don't have Heinze or Silvestre to replace him.


:shifty:

[Phatmann]

It seemed he was injured. I don't think he can really be dropped, as you don't have Heinze or Silvestre to replace him.


:shifty:

But alas, we have John O'Shea.
http://img.skysports.com/07/09/218x298/JohnO_Shea_576916.jpg

:shifty:

[fick]

O'Shea > Evra.

Please tell me you're joking? :huh:

It seemed he was injured. I don't think he can really be dropped, as you don't have Heinze or Silvestre to replace him.


:shifty:

Glad silv isn't available, hes been crap for a few seasons & can't head a ball. Josh isn't a bad replacement, although i could see Pique filling the role efficiently enough...

[Joel]

But alas, we have John O'Shea.
http://img.skysports.com/07/09/218x298/JohnO_Shea_576916.jpg

:shifty:

He only does well for you when he is playing in midfield.


:shifty:

[Phatmann]

He only does well for you when he is playing in midfield.


:shifty:

Or in goal.

:shifty:

[Jesus]

Are you shitting me? Pique, at left-back!? He's a natural CB and does a half-decent job at RB.(and DMF, so I've heard)

[fick]

Or in goal.

:shifty:

:laugh:

Clean sheet man!!!

[fick]

Are you shitting me? Pique, at left-back!? He's a natural CB and does a half-decent job at RB.(and DMF, so I've heard)

the guy is comfortable on the ball & no slouch. I think he'd cope well.

[Phatmann]

:laugh:

Clean sheet man!!!

Sometimes I think I'd rather him than Kuszczak as a backup keeper.

the guy is comfortable on the ball & no slouch. I think he'd cope well.


Trouble is,he doesn't really have a left foot.

[Joel]

Or in goal.

:shifty:

Touché.

:shifty:

Son of a bitch!

[fick]

Trouble is,he doesn't really have a left foot.

I've just had a mad vision of him hopping down the left flank... :laugh:

...still be better than Silvestre though. :shifty:

[mufcsean]

Well it's nice that they will be wearing that kit, but it will be wierd, Derby tomorrow, predictions anybody, i'm going for 4-0

[Phatmann]

0-0

[Jesus]

5-2.

[mufcsean]

If we concede 2 at home to them i will erm, be very shocked, it's not going to happen, Phatmann, why the negativity?

[Phatmann]

If we concede 2 at home to them i will erm, be very shocked, it's not going to happen, Phatmann, why the negativity?

Joel knows. :shifty:

I've decided to return to my pessimistic ways for this particular match due to past experience of terrible performances against the relegation sides. i.e. when we drew 0-0 at home to Sunderland when they only managed something like 19 points all season. :doh:

[mufcsean]

Yeah we always seem to do poorly against the crap sides, but i'm hoping Fergie puts out a strong side seen as the next game is against Roma which we can afford to lose and rest the bigger players

[Top Gun]

Probably 1-0 to Derby, these are the sort of games we screw up in.

[Meyyappan]

No this time certainly you wont fergie wont let that happen 3-0

[AgentZero]

:angry:




Here it is!

right mate..it just means the players have numbers 1-11 - correct
I presume players are able to choose what numbers they want or it will be based on positions like in the good old days.

[Jesus]

right mate..it just means the players have numbers 1-11 - correct
I presume players are able to choose what numbers they want or it will be based on positions like in the good old days.

Why were the others saying that then?
:| Are you serious?

:doh:

[Wan]

Brown snub Utd contract

Wes Brown could be on his way out of Manchester United after rejecting the club's latest contract offer.

The England international was expected to sign a new and improved four-year deal at Old Trafford, but his advisors have now informed the club that they are not happy with the offer.

Manager Sir Alex Ferguson insists that The Red Devils will not be improving their existing offer, meaning Brown could be on his way when his present deal expires in the summer.

Rejected

"We have had several meetings with Wes' agent but they have rejected our last offer," said Ferguson.

"It is a good offer but it is our final one. That is the end of it now and we won't be going back."

Brown would be free to talk to other interested clubs in January and even sign pre-contract terms with teams outside the Premier League.

It is rare for United to find themselves in this position, especially with one of their home-grown players.

And with Gary Neville suffering yet another setback on his long-awaited return from injury, he seems destined to spend much of the campaign at right-back.

Ferguson added: "There is a possibility Wes could leave, which would be very disappointing."

[Jesus]

I think Sagnol would be a very good addition to the squad now. Especially with Brown leaving.

(revised) Prediction for today: United 4 - 1 Derby

[mufcsean]

I'm still going for 4-0, shame about Brown, he is a decent player and is a good back up for anywhere in defence

[fick]

I think Sagnol would be a very good addition to the squad now. Especially with Brown leaving.

(revised) Prediction for today: United 4 - 1 Derby

sagnol? we'd be lucky.

hope wes orange doesn't go...

[Jesus]

He's been loyal to the club. :crymore:

He had potential 8 years ago, eh?

[fick]

He had potential 8 years ago, eh?

Had a few bad injuries early in his career, otherwise i think we would have seen more of him. Always liked him at rb...

[mufcsean]

He was never going to keep Neville out of the team though, he used to play at CB a lot ages ago

[beetwee]

I guess he never made it to be a permanent player for the first 11 and then you have to move on and try someone else maybe a young talent.

[mufcsean]

To be honest i can't think of any young Rb's who we could sign, the only guy who springs to mind is Mica Richards, but i can't see City selling to us unfortunately

[beetwee]

Is ther nothing in the Man utd youth, they have a pretty good rep with youth players.

[mufcsean]

Well we did have Bardsley who i liked but i think he is making is loan to Sheffield United permanent, we have Pique who can play there though his natural position is CB. Then there is Danny Simpson who i also like and his natural position is RB, it's just a case of whether or not he is good enough to play there for us. If i was United manager :rolleyes: i'd go for Johnny Heitinga, he is naturally a CB but he can play at RB, he is a brilliant defender. but i don't think you'd like that too much eh Beetwee

[beetwee]

No I wouldn't but at the moment it seems to be that we can't keep the good players.But you're right about him and I know he's ready for a higher level.

[mufcsean]

Just read on Sky Sports that Hargreaves will start in central midfield and that Carrick and Fletcher are fighting for a place along side him, where's Anderson?

[Zoolander]

Just read on Sky Sports that Hargreaves will start in central midfield and that Carrick and Fletcher are fighting for a place along side him, where's Anderson?

Rested? No disrespect but it's Derby & we're at home.

[mufcsean]

These are the types of games he should be playing in, it gives him a chance to get his first goal for us

[Zoolander]

But he's more important, better than Carrick & Fletcher. :laugh:

[Top Gun]

Giggs to get his 100th league goal today? If ever he had a chance it's today.

[mufcsean]

Would he be the first midfielder to do so?

[beetwee]

I don't think so.

[Jonny2J]

Would he be the first midfielder to do so?http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/northeast/series11/images/week5/bobby_charlton449.jpg

http://www.friendsandrelations.com/images/user/15_1.jpg

Spring to mind.

[Top Gun]

Van Der Sar
Brown
Ferdinand
Vidic
Evra
Ronaldo
Hargreaves
Anderson
Giggs
Rooney
Tevez

Subs Kuszczak, O'Shea, Carrick, Fletcher and Saha.

Same starting line-up and squad as Monday night.

[mufcsean]

I thought he meant Premiersh!p but because of the filter he said that, so it is not only Premiership goals but the old top division aswell then

[beetwee]

How they measure up
Sir Bobby Charlton
Born: 11 Oct 1937
Debut: 6 Oct 1956 v Charlton (H)
Appearances: 759
Goals: 249

Ryan Giggs
Born: 29 Nov 1973
Debut: 02 Mar 1991 v Everton (H)
Appearances: 721
Goals: 141

f**kin' hell that are some serious numbers

[Zoolander]

I thought he meant Premiersh!p but because of the filter he said that, so it is not only Premiership goals but the old top division aswell then

I'll get in before Jonny. There was football before the Premiership. :laugh:

[mufcsean]

Yes i know that bloodyhell, i just thought he meant Premiersh!p goals as that's what everybody says now, anyway, Anderson is playing :erm:

[Top Gun]

Hargreaves got injured in the warm up so Carrick is now starting in his place.

[Zoolander]

:doh:

[beetwee]

I think he is a better player.

[mufcsean]

Hargreaves got injured in the warm up so Carrick is now starting in his place.

:doh:

Anybody watching it, the one i'm trying to watch is just a pink screen :(

[somegooner]

Derby are doing a good job against United.

EDIT: Ryan Giggs just scored his 100th league goal. Congrats.

EDIT 2: What amazing flukes. Rooney missing an open goal :laugh:. Last week Anelka and now this!

EDIT 3: Ok now 2-0.

[Phatmann]

Man Utd 12-0 Derby

We 12-0 up? :mellow:

[Guillermo]

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2224/newpicture10pe8.png (http://imageshack.us)

:wave:

[mufcsean]

:laugh: Sky Sports > BBC

Well done Giggsy

:cheer:

[beetwee]

:badumtish: :club: :thewave: And that's 100

[Phatmann]

:calmdown: beetwee.

If we don't win the game after being 2-0 up at HT, I'd be extremely surprised and disappointed.

BBC is better than sky sports by the way. Sky Sports seems to take forever to update. I'm talking about the websites here, as Gilette Soccer Saturday is obviously much better than the BBC equivalent.

[mufcsean]

Well i have never seen Sky Sports website make a mistake like adding 10 goals to a teams score :wave:

[Phatmann]

That's cos they have all the games on 0-0 for the majority of the game. :shifty:

[beetwee]

:handbags:

[Jesus]

How they measure up
Sir Bobby Charlton
Born: 11 Oct 1937
Debut: 6 Oct 1956 v Charlton (H)
Appearances: 759
Goals: 249

Ryan Giggs
Born: 29 Nov 1973
Debut: 02 Mar 1991 v Everton (H)
Appearances: 721
Goals: 141

f**kin' hell that are some serious numbers

You can swear.

At the time football wasn't as strategic as it is now. Charlton was playing in midfield and upfront.;)

[beetwee]

But still, that are some serious numbers(both of them)

[Jesus]

Yes, they both have a very impressive record with us. :)

:club:

:thewave:

[mufcsean]

3-0 Tevez, nice finish

Fletcher on for Anderson

[Stella Artois]

God Derby are awful.

[Guillermo]

God Derby are awful.

As are we.

[mufcsean]

3-1 :no:

[Stella Artois]

4-1, with Ronaldo conning the ref as per usual and then being so fucking greedy that he won't even give the ball to Tevez for his hat-trick.

What a cunt.

[mufcsean]

Yeah i can't believe he didn't let Tevez have it. That penalty made up for the decision that went against him on Monday :erm:

[Stella Artois]

Perhaps if he stopped looking to run into opponents, he might gets decisions more.

[ecureuil]

He made the right decision by not letting Tevez take it.

[vanNistelrooy]

4-1, with Ronaldo conning the ref as per usual and then being so fucking greedy that he won't even give the ball to Tevez for his hat-trick.

What a cunt.
I was gonna say all foreigners do it, but Gerrard took a pen against Porto when Torres was on for a hat trick. When a game is practically already won, I don't understand why they don't give them the chance?

[Jesus]

Their greediness for goals... :no:

[mufcsean]

He made the right decision by not letting Tevez take it.

Care to explain?

[AgentZero]

hes king ron..

[Jesus]

Care to explain?

My dad(who's always on Ronaldo's side, when I say something negative about him:mellow: ) says these one goals can help someone become the top scorer! :mellow: :huh:

For Gods's sake he's a winger! I know it's good to be a winger who CAN actually score, shows his aggressiveness(in football terms, not going berserk), yet that doesn't change the fact he's a winger. I think Ronaldo should have let Tevez should have take it.

He(Ronaldo) does know the feeling of not getting a hat-trick when you COULD have. Very selfish of him I can say. Then again, who doesn't like scoring goals, but he's already scored a fair few this season, I guess that's how he is.

Good news tonight, Le Arse are only 1 point clear. I think it was the 02-03 season when we got the league in the end, eh?

[mufcsean]

Some good results this weekend for us, I believe Ronaldo now has 14 in 14 that is very impressive

[AgentZero]

extremely impressive, continues this and pfa might come his way again.

[vanNistelrooy]

I could get 14 in 14 if I shot as often as he does.

He's still got A LOT to earn and giving him PFA won't help that happen any time soon.

[Phatmann]

I could get 14 in 14 if I shot as often as he does.

He's still got A LOT to earn and giving him PFA won't help that happen any time soon.

Freudian slip? :shifty:

[AgentZero]

:loopy:.....give ron more money.

[mufcsean]

:laugh:

I fully expect Rooney, Ronaldo and the like to be rested midweek as it is a game of absolutely no importance, and Sunday's game is a big en, Liverpool away like you didn't know, usually i'm not confident about these types of games, but i feel good, hopefully the Arsenal vs Chelsea game will be a draw

[Rkf91]

It's quite funny reading this arguement about Ronaldo taking the pen instead of Tevez completing his hat trick because I did the same not long ago, we were 4-0 up and I hadn't scored and my strike partner was on 2 goals , I won a penalty after being brought down by the keeper and stepped up myself to score , I think his reasoning like mine would be that he won the penalty? or was denied a scoring chance by being fouled , so i sympathise with Ronnie because I am also a greedy bastard :D

[AgentZero]

did anyone else did not hear about ronaldo gettin in trouble with hookers in september...i just heard about while having dinner.

[Jesus]

He's still got A LOT to earn and giving him PFA won't help that happen any time soon.

That'll make him think he's on the right track and he'll continue this way.:no:

[o0oGedo0o]

did anyone else did not hear about ronaldo gettin in trouble with hookers in september...i just heard about while having dinner.
Looks like fifa manager mode scenario to me.

[mufcsean]

Park set for United return

Park Ji-sung could return to the Manchester United squad for the pre-Christmas game against Everton.

The South Korean midfielder has been sidelined since the end of March after suffering a knee injury against Blackburn Rovers.

He was due to reappear in club colours for a reserve game against Newcastle United last week, only for the fixture to be postponed.

However, Park is close to full fitness and United boss Sir Alex Ferguson feels he could be in his plans for the 23rd December clash with Everton at Old Trafford.

"Ji-sung Park is now training with the first team and should be ready in a couple of weeks," Ferguson told Manchester United Radio.

"He'll be back in the fold in about two weeks' time, I think."

Terrific

Prior to his injury, Park had scored five goals in his previous five Premier League appearances and Ferguson is looking forward to the player's return.

He added: "He's a terrific young player and his return will be a great boost for us.

"He gives us more options going forward, which is good news."

It's about bloody time

[AgentZero]

does that mean anderson gets the chop

[Phatmann]

I thought Park played on the wings?

[AgentZero]

i thought he was amf

[Phatmann]

I'm pretty sure he's only ever really played as a LMF or RMF for us though.

[mufcsean]

He can play anywhere really, as he has never been a starter he hasn't had a fixed position for us

[AgentZero]

youre probably correct.

[vanNistelrooy]

Park is a winger, not a central mid. I feel however his best position is on the bench.

[Jesus]

:D

He's a good squad player, though he's been having too many injuries. :/

[Wan]

He's a versatile Asian player.
Not much Asian are like him.

[Jesus]

Oh dear. :doh:

[vanNistelrooy]

He's a versatile Asian player.
Not much Asian are like him.
This kid averages 12 posts a day, and at least 11 of them are as pointless as this. Can an admin not have a word with him, and tell him to sort his act out?

As for tomorrow's match, I hope SAF doesn't field too weak a team as I don't want a reversal of last season's score :(

[Jesus]

Even I wouldn't.

I do think that the score won't be as high as it was last season, for you to have 'Absolutely Shit Roma' in your signature.;)

[Top Gun]

Wayne Rooney will captain United in the Champions league clash with Roma at the Stadio Olimpico on Wednesday night.

Reds boss Sir Alex Ferguson has taken a young squad to Roma for the meaningless final Group F match.

Wes Brown and Michael Carrick are the only other players besides Rooney who started against Derby County on Saturday.

Rooney has been handed the captaincy, after much persistence from the 22-year-old.

"He has been pestering me for quite a while now, so I have given in," said Sir Alex.

United from: Kuszczak, Heaton, Brown, Eckersley, O'Shea, Pique, Evans, Simpson, Lee, Chester, Cleverley, Hewson, Nani, Eagles, Carrick, Fletcher, Dong, Brandy, Saha, Rooney.

Manchester United striker Wayne Rooney will captain a side that will be packed with fringe players.

Cristiano Ronaldo, Carlos Tevez, Ryan Giggs and Rio Ferdinand are rested.

Danny Simpson, Jonny Evans, Darren Fletcher and Louis Saha are brought in, along with young reserves Febian Brandy and Sam Hewson.

Roma defender Philippe Mexes is back after injury but midfielder Simone Perrotta is a doubt, while Alberto Aquilani and Marco Cassetti are out.

Going on that evidence the team should look something like this,

GK: Kuszczak
DR: Simpson
DL: O'Shea
DC: Evans
DC: Brown
MC: Fletcher
MC: Carrick
MC: Hewson
FC: Brandy
FC: Saha
FC: Rooney

Unless Rooney is playing a deep role then it looks like 4-3-3 with Saha and Brandy both playing aswell. Hopefully Roma will rest a few players or we could get a severe beating here.

[Jesus]

I think Pique will play.

I'm glad Aquilani is out!

[mufcsean]

That's not a bad team but i still think we'll lose. Though they are without Totti, Aquilani and Cassetti i think.

[Zoolander]

This kid averages 12 posts a day, and at least 11 of them are as pointless as this. Can an admin not have a word with him, and tell him to sort his act out?

As for tomorrow's match, I hope SAF doesn't field too weak a team as I don't want a reversal of last season's score :(

I've tried but he still does it. I don't want to ban him as he might hang himself.

[vanNistelrooy]

He's only 12 isn't he? I doubt he can reach the rafters, so he should be fine.

[Yossi]

Going on that evidence the team should look something like this,

GK: Kuszczak
DR: Simpson
DL: O'Shea
DC: Evans
DC: Brown
MC: Fletcher
MC: Carrick
MC: Hewson
FC: Brandy
FC: Saha
FC: Rooney

Unless Rooney is playing a deep role then it looks like 4-3-3 with Saha and Brandy both playing aswell. Hopefully Roma will rest a few players or we could get a severe beating here.
GK: Kuszczak
DR: Brown
DL: O'Shea
DC: Evans
DC: Pique
MR: Eagles
ML: Nani
MC: Carrick
MC: Fletcher
ST: Rooney
ST: Saha

...is more experienced, established and less likely to get a beating. Therefore more likely?

[vanNistelrooy]

With those two at the back together, there'd still be a beating.

I'm still going for 3 or 4-0 to Roma.

[AgentZero]

If we lose do we get second place?

[Guillermo]

If we lose do we get second place?
No, the win against Lisbon guaranteed us top spot.

[AgentZero]

oh good, i fancy going against the kopshites

[vanNistelrooy]

If you're on about in the CL, we can't as we can't get drawn against another English team in the next round.

Luckily for us it's our team to get drawn a pub team in the next round, after Liverpool had 3 of them ;)

[AgentZero]

oh really i wasnt aware we couldnt draw english teams in the next round. Yeh Rosenborgs pub team looks a-ok.

[Guillermo]

oh really i wasnt aware we couldnt draw english teams in the next round. Yeh Rosenborgs pub team looks a-ok.

:laugh: You should start doing your research, Rosenborg are out.

[vanNistelrooy]

lol, Valencia finished bottom.

[AgentZero]

i am on a roll...damn crack is too strong
Well i wouldnt like to vs lyon or Fenerbahce...who does that leaves us with?

[mufcsean]

Celtic, Schalke, Olympiacos are definite possibilities, the others are Lyon/Rangers, PSV/Fenerbahce, or in unlikely circumstances Sevilla.

I personally would like Schalke.

[teztravis7]

Celtic, Schalke, Olympiacos are definite possibilities, the others are Lyon/Rangers, PSV/Fenerbahce, or in unlikely circumstances Sevilla.

I personally would like Schalke.

Anyone.

We have to beat the best to win it.

End Of.

[LarssonIsGhod]

i wouldn't mind a game against you lot again. The atmoshpere at parkhead was electric, nakamura's freekick was amazing. All round i have nothing but positivity about games with united

[Keyser Soze]

Anyone.

We have to beat the best to win it.

End Of.
Tell that to Liverpool. :coffee:

[teztravis7]

i wouldn't mind a game against you lot again. The atmoshpere at parkhead was electric, nakamura's freekick was amazing. All round i have nothing but positivity about games with united

With Celtic being my other team since birth, i'd rather lose to them then anyone else.

Plus, we owe Celtic one for Parkhead last season.

[Guillermo]

Wasn't expecting this. :unsure:

[vanNistelrooy]

It won't last.

It was the least Pique could do, after leaving that ball to Totti.

[teztravis7]

Wasn't expecting this. :unsure:

I'll say.

Been decent first half.

Carrick running the show.

[AgentZero]

pretty good result for the young squad.. mancini goals was very good.

trouble in roma again, 7 fans injured (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=490155&cc=3436)

[mufcsean]

Shame about the fans, very pleased with the result and the fact that Rooney didn't get injured, didn't see the second half but i was very impressed with the first half. The young ones did themselves proud

[vanNistelrooy]

Fucking hell. That stadium was practically empty yet the Roma fans still manage to stab 5 of our fans.

What kind of punishment do they get? Practically fuck all. Kick them out the tournament and don't let them play in it for a few seasons, otherwise they'll never learn.

[AgentZero]

Tell that to Liverpool. :coffee:didn't liverpool beat the then reigning champions of england in the process last season, along with barca?

[Wan]

Fergie is banned for two matches including the Liverpool match.

[AgentZero]

yeh just read...shame really, lets see how much of an influence quieroz is for the team.

[Jesus]

Yes, that would be a chance for him to prove himself. That is, we'll have an insight of what to expect of him, if he does become our manage when Sir Alex Ferguson steps down.

[Wan]

I wonder if Fergie steps down first before Queiroz leave. :rolleyes:

[Guillermo]

Fergie is banned for two matches including the Liverpool match.

No he's not, the ban starts on the 28th. So away at West Ham and at home to Birmingham.