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AgentZero
16-03-2008, 10:06
well the time and stage is right for a revenge mission.
vanNistelrooy
16-03-2008, 10:25
Still remains to be seen as to whether Neville will return on Wednesday against Bolton, hopefully he will play some part, especially if Rio is still out.
Would be quite a coinsidence if he does, as it'll be in the fixture he originally got injured in :unsure:
mufcsean
16-03-2008, 18:05
Yeah never thought about that, there is talk that he won't play till the Roma game now :no:
Lord Shrimpeh
18-03-2008, 21:11
Yeah never thought about that, there is talk that he won't play till the Roma game now :no:
If he doesn't play again this season I think he should retire unfortunately :( The way it's going with his comeback its delayed so much it wouldn't surprise me. I think we need to sign a right back in the summer anyway.
mufcsean
18-03-2008, 21:21
Me too, but the best right back are either too old or too expensive, i know we have lots of money but paying around £20m for a right back just seems ridiculous to me.
Silvestre will play for the reserves this week as he tries to get back to full fitness, hopefully he will get fit again soon as we currently don't have a natural left footed defender to back up Evra. On the talk of transfers, David Villa is ready to quit Valencia, and we are intrested according to some papers, i'd love to see him at OT, he is magnificent.
I read what Fergie has been saying today about not being "ruthless" enough in fornt of goal and i completely agree, our past 3 games have all been 1-0 and we need to be better in front of goal especially this weekend.
AgentZero
18-03-2008, 22:18
anyone concerned about chelseas ressurgance?
vanNistelrooy
18-03-2008, 23:16
The who what now?
Ask me after the weekend.
AgentZero
18-03-2008, 23:46
Lets hope the yids can end chelseas streak.
mufcsean
19-03-2008, 01:50
Can't see Spurs beating them, but i also can't see Chelsea keeping this run up either to be honest, Grant will make some changes and i can see things fucking up again for them.
vanNistelrooy
19-03-2008, 09:30
Perfect weekend would be for us to beat the bindippers and Arsenal and Chelski to draw.
That would make me one happy bastard.
anyone concerned about chelseas ressurgance?
Yes... I said when Arsenal were however many points in the lead back in Novemeber that Chelsea were still in contention... possibly more of a threat than Arsenal as they still don't look good enough to win the league. Chelsea's chance will ultimately be decided by whether they can get results in their 'big games' as thus far they have been the opposite of United... consistant against weaker sides but hopeless against the better ones.
Looking further ahead, Berbatov has been linked with us again through his agent seemingly creating a story where there really isn't one. He's a brilliant player no doubt, but I'm not sure if Fergie would go for a 27 year old with no real pace when we already have Rooney and Tevez to provide inspiration and creativity. It looks increasingly likely that Fergie will move for a striker and a right back in the summer, with Saha and Brown appearing to suggest that their future lies away from OT. David Villa hasn't been linked, but it looks almost certain that he will be leaving Valencia in the summer.
But one game at a time and all that. Hopefully Foster's up for it again tonight and SAF doesn't rest too many players. It'd be nice to see an home debut for the ace new Anderson song too.
skullverine
19-03-2008, 16:45
anyone know the squad for tonight?
mufcsean
19-03-2008, 16:55
Dunno but i guess the starting line up will be
-----------------Foster-----------------
---Brown----Ferdinand----Vidic----Evra--
Ronaldo-----Scholes-----Anderson---Nani
--------------Rooney-----Tevez---------
skullverine
19-03-2008, 17:34
I have a feeling that Kuszcack will start if he's in the squad
vanNistelrooy
19-03-2008, 19:03
anyone know the squad for tonight?
Since it's not announced until half hour or so before kick off...no.
Sean is probably there or there abouts.
Phatmann
19-03-2008, 20:11
I can see Park getting a start maybe and perhaps O'Shea.
vanNistelrooy
19-03-2008, 20:24
Kuszcack
Hargreaves
Pique
Vidic
O'Shea
Ronaldo
Fletcher
Anderson
Nani
Saha
Tevez
Phatmann
19-03-2008, 20:33
Oh dear. My confidence has suddenly taken a nose-dive.
I expected to see a stronger team than that, even if it is only Bolton, who do not usually give you much trouble.
vanNistelrooy
19-03-2008, 20:43
Rio a huge doubt for Sunday :(
Phatmann
19-03-2008, 20:53
Rio a huge doubt for Sunday :(
Ah fuck. Hopefully Hargreaves has a decent game at right-back today, then Brown can move into the centre. Although I wouldn't mind O'Shea playing and scoring the winner again :)
Zoolander
19-03-2008, 21:39
Tevez seems up for it.
vanNistelrooy
19-03-2008, 21:49
Yeah, up for it on his own. Being far too gready.
Hargreaves is not existant as is Anderson. Hopefully Ronnie can get a third soon before SAF brings him off.
PESFan92
19-03-2008, 21:51
I have a feeling Ronaldo will get 40 goals this season :crymore:
2-0 job done.
Saha came off injured, hopefully it isn't too serious as we need all the players fit especially upfront.
vanNistelrooy
19-03-2008, 22:57
3 points clear, and Chelski royally fucked up.
Beat the bindippers and Chelski to beat the Arse and we've got a great advantage.
mufcsean
20-03-2008, 00:25
2-0 not a bad result, could/should have been more. Tevez and Nani were both greedy but Tevez was far worse.
Ronaldo was outstanding in the first half and had his moments in the second, 24 league goals already :D
:realmad: Saha needs to go, i had already given up on him but todays performance and injury just prove it, personally Rambo i feel if he is injured for Sundays game with Liverpool it will be a good thing rather than a bad thing, as this way Fergie won't feel the need to bring him on in place of somebody like Tevez who (usually) works so hard for the team.
:realmad: Saha needs to go, i had already given up on him but todays performance and injury just prove it, personally Rambo i feel if he is injured for Sundays game with Liverpool it will be a good thing rather than a bad thing, as this way Fergie won't feel the need to bring him on in place of somebody like Tevez who (usually) works so hard for the team.
I know what you mean, his injuries are very frustrating. Rooney is close to getting 10 (he's on 7 at the moment) bookings which would mean that he misses two games. If that scernario was to materialise with Saha injured, we would be left with Tevez upfront who isn't the best to have as a lone striker. We can't afford for that to happen with crucial matches with Chelsea and Arsenal coming up which is why it's imperitive everyone including Saha is fit.
mufcsean
20-03-2008, 01:12
If that were to happen to Rooney then i'd move Ronaldo up front with Tevez and play Park or Nani, providing Giggs was back
skullverine
20-03-2008, 06:00
I really hope that 'Rio is doubtful' is just one of his mind-games.
Nani was annoying last night, he was too selfish
mufcsean
20-03-2008, 18:42
I really hope that 'Rio is doubtful' is just one of his mind-games.
Nani was annoying last night, he was too selfish
I was thinking that aswell. Tevez was far worse by the way.
Silvestre is making his comeback tonight for the reserves
Good, he was looking quite decent at the start of the season. Also we could do with another natural left footer in the defence, O'Shea at left back never fills me with confidence.
mufcsean
20-03-2008, 23:46
If Rio is injured for Sunday i think brown will step inside with O' Shea at right back and Evra back in the starting line up at left back
I don't mind O'Shea at right back. He has a decent technique and an alright cross, he scores in the big games aswell. Would be great if he could score the winner again. :D
mufcsean
20-03-2008, 23:58
Rio has a decent goal record against the scousers aswell though :(
I'm really hoping he will be fit as he did a job on Torres earlier in the season, one of a few who have.
Just saw the reserve write-up on Manutd.com. Silvestre played 76 mins, Neville played the full 90 and Welbeck scored a hat-trick.
AgentZero
21-03-2008, 00:42
yeh hoping Rio will be right for Sunday. I dont think pique is good/experianced enough (yet) to contain Torres.
vanNistelrooy
21-03-2008, 00:50
Pique won't be good enough full stop.
mufcsean
21-03-2008, 00:51
No i don't think so either, and i wouldn't like to see Brown trying either if i'm honest.
wrathchild_uk
21-03-2008, 01:34
Saha better be sold in the summer, he's just another Fortune..
vanNistelrooy
21-03-2008, 01:43
A South African midfielder???
Guillermo
21-03-2008, 01:47
Anyone seen this (might have been posted before?):
Yh9sVG5Cbmk
When he grew up
Oh he knew he's gonna be
He's gonna be the only Scotsman in our team
Now he's grown up
And he's realised his dream
He's played alongside Giggsy, Scholes and Roy Keane
And he would run 500 miles
And he would run 500 more
To be the man who might just score
To be that man Darr-en Fletch-ur
DARREN FLETCHER! Darren Fletcher! DARREN FLETCHER! Darren Fletcher! dalandaladalandaladalan...
skullverine
21-03-2008, 12:31
nice find.
the only ones I've seen was the Fletcher song to the tune of Umbrella.
Also, the Sun says both Rio and VDS are fit to play. Let's hope they got it right this time.
mufcsean
22-03-2008, 02:38
Well i did hear Van der Sar was fit again but i from what i've read ferdinand won't play, whether that is just another of Fegie's mind games i don't know but the prospect of Rio not playing is unsettling non the less
Pique at the centre then if Rio's not playing?
Zoolander
23-03-2008, 04:40
I think we should get Agüero. :wub:
somegooner
23-03-2008, 06:02
I think we should get Agüero. :wub:
Atletico won't sell him until they find someone to carry the team like he does. Look at when the offers started coming in for Torres and look at when they sold him ... Only after they got Aguero to carry Atleti 4-5 years later.
Zoolander
23-03-2008, 06:07
Cuck my sock!
AgentZero
23-03-2008, 06:49
hehe, well i hear villa is disillusioned with valencia...why not him.
Imagine if Dean Ashton and David Villa were bought by martin o'neill :w00t:
vanNistelrooy
23-03-2008, 10:07
Anyone nervous about today's game?
Games against Chelsea, Arsenal and cup finals I'm fine. But games against Liverpool - I fucking hate them.
AgentZero
23-03-2008, 11:58
yeah me too, something about this one is really unsettling. I think its the accumulation of their form (torres) + for some odd reason records/streaks are being broken against us i.e Bolton winning over us, citys first since the 70's at old trafford.
And i dont think Liverpool havent beaten us at home for a good while too.
LarssonIsGhod
23-03-2008, 11:59
Is Ferdinand playing today......if he's on top form i think he can handle Torres!
AgentZero
23-03-2008, 12:03
nope..back injury...we either have woeful wes or 'pressure-cooker' pique.
LarssonIsGhod
23-03-2008, 12:04
Your fucked then :)
AgentZero
23-03-2008, 12:07
cheers, for your utmost support.
LarssonIsGhod
23-03-2008, 12:09
No i'm kidden on mate.....
United are my favourite team from England. I'm sure they'll be fine
As long as they can close down Torres and Gerrard (i know easier said than done) I reckon they'll win
AgentZero
23-03-2008, 12:17
as far as im concerned. If Anderson played like he did at anfield, gerrard should be kept at a moderate level of influence and with torres i think he needed the former to click for him to click.
So i presume no one thinks Vidic is good enough to keep Mr Tower at bay?
LarssonIsGhod
23-03-2008, 12:28
What formation you think Liverpool will play.....If they play crouch and torres then vidic has to mark crouch so that leaves torres open
If Vidic marks torres then crouch is free
skullverine
23-03-2008, 12:31
If Rio isn't playing, I'd rather see Brown at CB instead of Pique. Hargreaves can play at right back
AgentZero
23-03-2008, 12:37
What formation you think Liverpool will play.....If they play crouch and torres then vidic has to mark crouch so that leaves torres open
If Vidic marks torres then crouch is free
against newcastle they had a 4-5-1, but i dont think they'll play that again. 4-4-2 with Kuyt upfront partnering Torres.
@meecrob, yeah for sure Brown > Pique at a crucial game like this.
skullverine
23-03-2008, 12:42
By the way, Rio trained yesterday
http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=1&language=en-US&family=editorial&ebd=2008-03-21&p=manchester%20united&src=standard#
look at _
Editorial
#80330919
21 Mar 2008
Doesn't look like a person that has a back injury
LarssonIsGhod
23-03-2008, 12:42
LostGalactico when does the game kick off?
The celtic game kicks off at 14:00 today and i want to try watch both!!
Ferdinand had better play because if he doesn't I can't see Pique containing Torres.
AgentZero
23-03-2008, 13:00
LostGalactico when does the game kick off?
The celtic game kicks off at 14:00 today and i want to try watch both!!
13:30 kick off...good luck at channel surfing.
LarssonIsGhod
23-03-2008, 13:02
That's good then......there will be a point when the games aren't on at the same time.....should make surfing easier :P
somegooner
23-03-2008, 13:47
Doesn't O'Shea play at CB?? Or is he injured??
Guillermo
23-03-2008, 13:48
Doesn't O'Shea play at CB?? Or is he injured??
He's not injured, and can play pretty much anywhere. Doesn't matter mind, Rio is playing. :smug:
AgentZero
23-03-2008, 13:54
hooray!!:wave::loopy:
vanNistelrooy
23-03-2008, 13:57
van Der Sar
Brown
Rio
Vidic
Evra
Ronaldo
Scholes
Carrick
Anderson
Giggs
Rooney
Tevez
Nani
Hargreaves
O'Shea
Kuszczak
One up front, at home???
AgentZero
23-03-2008, 14:00
presuming anderson will play behind rooney.
vanNistelrooy
23-03-2008, 14:15
Prolly Giggs and Ronaldo up with Rooney.
I shall be praying before todays game!
Guillermo
23-03-2008, 14:17
Prolly Giggs and Rooney up with Rooney.
Thought I'd lulz at this before you edit it. :shifty:
Mum's done Sunday lunch for 2, and there's fucking visitors round. I think I'll skip food, no matter how much this displeases the family.
vanNistelrooy
23-03-2008, 14:19
Sorry, edit what exactly? :erm:
Zoolander
23-03-2008, 14:24
Thought I'd lulz at this before you edit it. :shifty:
Mum's done Sunday lunch for 2, and there's fucking visitors round. I think I'll skip food, no matter how much this displeases the family.
Be a man & watch the football while eating your lunch naked.
vanNistelrooy
23-03-2008, 14:25
...in front of the family.
I'm starting to feel sick :(
How dare Man Utd come out to I Am The Resurrection. Should be our tune tbh.
[/Sarcam]
vanNistelrooy
23-03-2008, 14:27
FFS, not that cunt Bennett.
ThierryHenry14
23-03-2008, 14:32
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/premier-league/2007-2008/man-united-liverpool-195890.html
lol look what they put about Ronaldo..
Zoolander
23-03-2008, 15:10
Watch them stick Crouch on to do their boring long ball game.
somegooner
23-03-2008, 15:14
What were the odds on Brown with the first goal??
He's like a wild beast, Rafa to lay down the law.
AgentZero
23-03-2008, 15:20
aiaiaiaiia.....
Fergie's media comments working a treat, Torres and Mascherano were both booked for dissent. Anderson is class.
Cracking decision by Steve Bennett, especially after the Ashley Cole incident the other day.
He's like a wild beast, Rafa to lay down the law.
Booked for double posting, what a fucking joke.
Don Sweey
23-03-2008, 15:25
Booked for double posting, what a fucking joke.
Want it fucking extended or upgraded? Double posting is an automatic booking. If you don't like it then stop doing it.
Make sure you guys ram home the advantage in the second half. Can't let this greasy lot squirm their way out of this one.
Booked for double posting, what a fucking joke.
Steve Bennet is a mod.
Don Sweey
23-03-2008, 15:27
Steve Bennet is a mod.
Steveo Bennetti(o) in this case :huh:
Booked for double posting, what a fucking joke.
You best be careful. Mascherano got sent off for showing dissent after he was booked
AgentZero
23-03-2008, 15:29
anyone watchin sky? terrible halftime rants
You best be careful. Mascherano got sent off for showing dissent after he was booked
:laugh:
anyone watchin sky? terrible halftime rants
The Last Word is gonna be a cracker.
PES looks pretty good for the Wii :mellow:
AgentZero
23-03-2008, 15:49
yeah...must say ads that av is top stuff..her breast are pressed up perfectly.
yeah...must say ads that av is top stuff..her breast are pressed up perfectly.
It did take a rather in depth Google image search but I think I made the correct choice. It's pretty much :w00t
Zoolander
23-03-2008, 16:01
Get the ball down & calm things down cunts.
somegooner
23-03-2008, 16:10
Congrats guys. Good win but I must say that a shit could have done better on saving both United goals.
Next time put a little more effort into it cunts! Liverpool should've been demolished in the 2nd half.
LarssonIsGhod
23-03-2008, 16:22
Ronaldo on 25 league goals......30 looks a realistic target for the season!!
Stroll in the park for United today tbh.
I can't see Liverpool putting in a title challenge in the near future.
somegooner
23-03-2008, 16:23
Now you have made our CL tie much easier. Never thought I would be thanking a team for going 6 clear of us.
AgentZero
23-03-2008, 16:25
that game cemented my admiration for the carrick scholes combo.
Now you have made our CL tie much easier. Never thought I would be thanking a team for going 6 clear of us.
Ah you might have spoken too soon there kid, Liverpool are a different team in Europe.
Don't get me wrong, I really hope Liverpool get bummed...again
AgentZero
23-03-2008, 16:26
Id rather see a gooner saying "we've won euro" rather than have 'we've won it 6 times' all over again.
Id rather see a gooner saying "we've won euro" rather than have 'we've won it 6 times' all over again.
And that's exactly the reason I hate Liverpool. Their fans pretty much all live in the past.
I think many of them are extremely deluded.
AgentZero
23-03-2008, 16:39
lets hope that rooney knock was just play-acting.
Rio and Vidic kept Torres quiet again and Gerrard didn't even turn up, when Babel came off for Benayoun their attacking threat was all gone. Was a bit worried when we couldn't get the second to finish them off but Nani came on and took advantage of some tired defending. Fergie got the tactics spot on as we were having most of the possesion even before Mascherano got sent off, Carrick is always efficient in these games adept at both going forwards and defending which allows the attack to do what they do.
Rio and Vidic kept Torres quiet again and Gerrard didn't even turn up, when Babel came off for Benayoun their attacking threat was all gone. Was a bit worried when we couldn't get the second to finish them off but Nani came on and took advantage of some tired defending. Fergie got the tactics spot on as we were having most of the possesion even before Mascherano got sent off, Carrick is always efficient in these games adept at both going forwards and defending which allows the attack to do what they do.
I think Carricks discipline is brilliant. When United are swarming forward he tends to hold his position which i'm sure is reassuring for United fans.
Lord Shrimpeh
23-03-2008, 16:55
We were brilliant today and outclassed Liverpool second half although admittedly they were down to ten men. We need to put more chances away really with Rooney being the prime culprit although the rest of his play is genius. I've been very impressed with Nani this season, considering his age and the fact it's his first season.
vanNistelrooy
23-03-2008, 16:55
Can we play you every week?
I said it before, and I'll say it again...
Tevez > Torres
also,
Brown > Torres
Ronaldo > Torres
Nani > Torres
Always been an admirer of Brown. And that Steve Bennett fellow :tongue:
skullverine
23-03-2008, 16:59
Always been an admirer of Brown. And that Steve Bennett fellow :tongue:
Well, weren't you the one that has an X over Brown's face after the derby?
Anyways, it's always nice to see us win against l'pool.
Scholes was the MOM for me.
vanNistelrooy
23-03-2008, 17:01
/sarcasm
Can we play you every week?
I said it before, and I'll say it again...
Tevez > Torres
also,
Brown > Torres
Ronaldo > Torres
Nani > Torres
Always been an admirer of Brown. And that Steve Bennett fellow :tongue:
:lol:
vanNistelrooy
23-03-2008, 17:10
United > Liverpool
:lol:
I was shitting myself before the match, thankfully we came out on top and our task was made easier with Mascherano being sent off.
Would've been perfect had Arsenal not lost, nevertheless 5 points clear at the top is more than satisfactory.
Don Sweey
23-03-2008, 22:16
I was shitting myself before the match, thankfully we came out on top and our task was made easier with Mascherano being sent off.
Would've been perfect had Arsenal not lost, nevertheless 5 points clear at the top is more than satisfactory.
You'd have been five clear if they'd drawn too :mellow:
AgentZero
23-03-2008, 22:23
yeah but with chelsea the chance to drop points is against us and maybe everton. lets hope boro can do a number on avvys men.
You'd have been five clear if they'd drawn too :mellow:
Aye, i'm fully aware of that, that's why I was pissed they lost.
vanNistelrooy
23-03-2008, 22:52
A draw would have been better, as Chelski are prolly our main threat and I've been told have an easier run in than Arsenal.
AgentZero
23-03-2008, 23:02
they do, last two games are against the relegation dwellers and face the mid table teams before that. There is a glimmer of hope when Chelsea Faces Everton on the same weekend we play Arsenal, the following week its on like donkey kong at the bridge.
mufcsean
24-03-2008, 01:26
What is it with our defender getting goals against them, not complaining mind.
Brilliant result, i was confident all week going into the game but this morning i woke up and nerves were kicking in.
I think the referee was spot on to send Mascherano off, what a silly little boy, after all that's happened this week you'd think he (Mascherano) would have known better.
I thought Carrick was very good again today, was always there to help out and tidy things up and set us away on the attack.
Anderson made a few mistakes and didn't impress me really today, a positive though is that you can see he is desperate to score and hopefully it's sooner rather than later.
Rio and Vidic were decent, though didn't really have all that much to do, glad Rio started though.
Rooney was excellent, Skrtel and Carragher just couldn't cope, so gutted he didn't score though.
Glad to see Ronaldo finally score against the scousers and 25 league goals, bloodyhell, let's hope he can hit 30, lovely finish from Nani aswell.
I watched the game at a pub in Manchster and the atmosphere was brilliant, the pub wasn't too far from Old Trafford, and after the game the noise was unbelievable and the United fans were singing, You'll never win the league in the style of You'll never walk alone which had everybody in stitches.
AgentZero
24-03-2008, 05:49
Anderson needs to learn to stop hitting first timers. Needs to hold it and asses his options first.
vanNistelrooy
24-03-2008, 10:42
That song is oooooooold.
vanNistelrooy
29-03-2008, 19:07
Ronaldo's football is giving me an erection.
Is that wrong?
Guillermo
29-03-2008, 19:16
Ronaldo's football is giving me an erection.
Is that wrong?
No, but what you intend to do with it is. :shifty:
Fabulous goal.
Phatmann
29-03-2008, 20:48
Bets on the next time Villa don't get hammered by us? Fiver says it's after England next host the World Cup.
Couple of tricky games coming up, away to Roma and Boro. I'd be happy with a score draw at Roma, but Boro is a must win considering we still have to play Arsenal and Chelsea.
vanNistelrooy
29-03-2008, 20:49
If we can get past Boro and Blackburn away I think we have a great chance.
mufcsean
30-03-2008, 01:00
We were brilliant today, 4 more wins like that and the league is ours.
Ronaldo :shcoking: What a bloody good goal, surely he will have 30 league goals.
Glad to see Rooney getting 2 and unlucky for his 3rd to be ruled out, Tevez was brilliant today as well as everybody.
Yet another clean sheet :D
Tough game Tuesday and hopefully we can get at least a draw with an away goal.
vanNistelrooy
30-03-2008, 01:29
Not fussed about CL tbh.
The league is the important one.
AgentZero
30-03-2008, 07:48
cant agree more..it would be nice but its more icing on the cake....that is several layers thick.
I personally would like us to win the CL, it's been long overdue.
Looks like Rio, Carrick, Evra and Giggs are injured.
vanNistelrooy
30-03-2008, 11:29
& Edwin.
Guillermo
30-03-2008, 12:30
Looks like Rio, Carrick, Evra and Giggs are injured.
Eh? :huh:
Are you just saying that because they were subbed?
AgentZero
30-03-2008, 12:31
who got motm? i wouldnt be surprised if it was rooney but ronaldo deserves it for the 3 assist and one cheeky goal.
@wan: yeh that better not be based on the subs or what you've read from goal.com.
EDIT: its confirmed..there is concern over the 5 aforementioned players.
vanNistelrooy
30-03-2008, 12:36
Rio, Carrick and Evra were subbed because they picked up knocks.
Giggs came off injured just before full time.
van Der Sar didn't play because of his reoccuring thigh injury.
:(
Don Sweey
30-03-2008, 12:46
Totti's out, you'll be fine.
Strange to see United fans play down the possible defeat against Roma before the game. Roma beat Real though, so it's not going to be a walk in the park for United either, especially not at Olimpico. It's going to be a superb game though, both teams seem to be in fantastic shape. Although I don't feel United have been really tested in the last few weeks though (since beating Lyon).
Fantastic performance. Great to see a side come to Old Trafford and actually try and play open attacking football instead of resorting to kicking, time wasting and annoying. Martin O'Neil deserves a lot of credit for his approach to the game; they were just unfortunate to come up against a magnificently talented team epitomised by the tireless work and precocious talent of Rooney. Ronaldo might get all the media plaudits for scoring goals, and rightly so, he's been unbelievably good this season, but this team is lead by Wayne Rooney make no mistake. When Rooney plays well, the shirts play well and he remains the talismanic figure in the side.
Very tough week coming up with the two aways. But such has our form been this season that we should fear nobody. This is the most talented United side I have ever seen in my lifetime and whilst the attempts of the club to gloss over the atrocious derby performance were cringeworthy, so long as Ronaldo stays clear of injury and Wayne doesn't feel the need to pretend he's Roger Federer with another game of head tennis, there's every chance this side can honour the Babes' memory in the best possible way.
vanNistelrooy
30-03-2008, 17:25
Rooney has been awesome this season, but as usual the press point out his lack of goals, totally ignoring how much he's doing for the team.
Tevez has really impressed me this season. He wasn't really proven in this division from his spell with West Ham, but the way he chases players down even when we're 4-0 up; you can't ask anymore of him (does take shots on when he should pass a little too often though).
As for Anderson; wow. How fucking strong is he? My Dad reckons he'll be the best out of all the summer signings and he may be right!
Let's hope Boro haven't saved all their goals for us visit, hey!?
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x187/BPR07/77209164.jpg
When those 3 all decide to play they're pretty much unstoppable. Was a great performance yesterday and hopefully we can carry the confidence into the coming weeks. Scholes looked great yesterday too.
Zissou I'm in agreement with the Anderson comment, the guy is a monster. Nani doesn't look half bad either. :smug:
mufcsean
30-03-2008, 18:50
:cheer: Totti is injured
Rooney has been awesome this season, but as usual the press point out his lack of goals, totally ignoring how much he's doing for the team.
Tevez has really impressed me this season. He wasn't really proven in this division from his spell with West Ham, but the way he chases players down even when we're 4-0 up; you can't ask anymore of him (does take shots on when he should pass a little too often though).
As for Anderson; wow. How fucking strong is he? My Dad reckons he'll be the best out of all the summer signings and he may be right!
Let's hope Boro haven't saved all their goals for us visit, hey!?Rooney to me makes the team tick, there's no doubt about that in my mind.
vanNistelrooy
30-03-2008, 19:27
It pisses me off at how much stick he gets. Our number one striker has been having a goal drought, yet we're still top. Not gonna worry myself with that one!
As far as SAF is there I can't see Rooney ever leaving. Let's hope SAF stays until the day he dies! :/
It pisses me off at how much stick he gets. Our number one striker has been having a goal drought, yet we're still top. Not gonna worry myself with that one!
As far as SAF is there I can't see Rooney ever leaving. Let's hope SAF stays until the day he dies! :/I think he's absolutely brilliant.
I'm still in love with Paul Scholes though. The finest player England have had since Gazza iyam.
vanNistelrooy
30-03-2008, 19:40
Scholes has been my favourite United player since he's been with us.
Have much more respect for Rio, and how good a defender he actually is. Carrick keeps coming in when called upon and giving flawless performances. Fucking loving it right now! :D
Scholes has been my favourite United player since he's been with us.
Have much more respect for Rio, and how good a defender he actually is. Carrick keeps coming in when called upon and giving flawless performances. Fucking loving it right now! :DI've just created a thread actually on one of the Toon boards, inspired by my comment about Scholesy, saying what a legend he is.
Rio has impressed me no end as of late as well. Never been a huge fan of him, but I can't fault the way he's been playing the past couple of seasons.
vanNistelrooy
30-03-2008, 19:56
It's a shame (for England) he retired from internationals as early as he did. Then again it gets a couple more seasons out of him for United, so I'm not gonna moan.
Rio appears to have cut the odd hiccups out of his game. The composure he shows impresses me greatly.
Would have liked to have seen more of Hargreaves this season, but I never expected Anderson to impress so much in his first season.
Just need to get rid of Saha and bring in another striker. Possibly look at a right back incase Neville never really fully recovers and because Wes is stalling over a new contract.
It's a shame (for England) he retired from internationals as early as he did. Then again it gets a couple more seasons out of him for United, so I'm not gonna moan.
Rio appears to have cut the odd hiccups out of his game. The composure he shows impresses me greatly.
Would have liked to have seen more of Hargreaves this season, but I never expected Anderson to impress so much in his first season.
Just need to get rid of Saha and bring in another striker. Possibly look at a right back incase Neville never really fully recovers and because Wes is stalling over a new contract.I think Rio finally seems to have matured a lot more as well which has helped him out greatly.
It's a shame (for England) he retired from internationals as early as he did. Then again it gets a couple more seasons out of him for United, so I'm not gonna moan.
Rio appears to have cut the odd hiccups out of his game. The composure he shows impresses me greatly.
Would have liked to have seen more of Hargreaves this season, but I never expected Anderson to impress so much in his first season.
Just need to get rid of Saha and bring in another striker. Possibly look at a right back incase Neville never really fully recovers and because Wes is stalling over a new contract.
He retired because the media were on his back saying he should step down and let the uber partnership of Lampard and Gerrard progress, glad to see that worked out...
I wouldn't mind seeing Hargreaves given a few games at right back, he has played there a bit in his career and is good defensively.
On the striker front we could do with bringing somebody in, but with the 7 subs rule next season there's no reason not to throw Danny Welbeck or Frazier Campbell on the bench and give them a chance.
How good are they? (Campbell & Welbeck)
AgentZero
31-03-2008, 10:46
anderson-son-son...etc great song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqSKzdDRJZM
skullverine
31-03-2008, 12:41
I prefer the Viva Ronaldo song
Better than the disgusting Adebayor song some of us have took to singing at recent matches. There used to be a time when United fans had the moral highground over our smalltime neighbours. I remember boasting that United fans would never sing the racist chants about Sun Ji Hai and chippies that city fans loved to sing. Today we have songs proclaiming South Koreans are 'dog eaters' and Park is our 'hong kong phooey on the wing'.... it's sad to see some of us have fallen to the level of Little Englander BNP humour.
The standard has certainly slipped since the Wenger song...
Stella Artois
31-03-2008, 21:18
Better than the disgusting Adebayor song some of us have took to singing at recent matches. There used to be a time when United fans had the moral highground over our smalltime neighbours. I remember boasting that United fans would never sing the racist chants about Sun Ji Hai and chippies that city fans loved to sing. Today we have songs proclaiming South Koreans are 'dog eaters' and Park is our 'hong kong phooey on the wing'.... it's sad to see some of us have fallen to the level of Little Englander BNP humour.
Now I know for a fact that definitely don't go to games.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Manchester United stars hospitalized after "bizarre crash"
Manchester United players Cristiano Ronaldo and Anderson were hospitalised in Rome late last night after what Italian police have described as a "bizarre crash". The Portuguese star and his Brazilian teammate suffered the accident on the A90 ringroad circling the city, where a Porsche 911 Turbo, rented in Ronaldo's name, hit a lorry in the crawler lane.
The two Manchester United midfielders were taken to Rome's Gemelli hospital with "cuts and bruises". No serious injuries have been reported, but the two of them are said to be "more than a little shocked" by the incident.
Eyewitness reports indicate that the Porsche, which was doing the speed limit at the time, veered wildly out of the middle lane and struck the other vehicle. The exact reasons for the crash are unknown, but no blame is thus far being attributed to either driver.
The lorry, of Dutch origin, was transporting sanitary towels and other personal hygeine items to a local supermarket warehouse for distribution across the capital, and the driver is unavailable for comment.
Manchester United have already issued a press release, wishing the players well and reassuring fans that no long term damage has been done. It looks likely, however, that the two players will now miss today's important European clash with AS Roma.
Pictures of crash from BBC:-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7321997.stm (http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9219/foolsiv3.jpg)
How ghey. :/
Phatmann
01-04-2008, 01:30
Oh dear.
Zoolander
01-04-2008, 01:30
I wish them a fast recovery.
Jake Small
01-04-2008, 01:58
Sounds like they're okay at least.
Well, United missing Ronaldo and Roma missing Totti for the first leg. Makes things rather interesting, though I'd rather have both play than neither.
Phatmann
01-04-2008, 02:03
:doh:
Scholes has been my favourite United player since he's been with us.
Have much more respect for Rio, and how good a defender he actually is. Carrick keeps coming in when called upon and giving flawless performances. Fucking loving it right now! :D
ManU, I'm luvin' it.
We're a few points clear of Le Arse and Chelsea, City lost, couldn't have been any better. :D
Edit: Sean, you cheeky cunt.
Jake Small
01-04-2008, 06:24
:doh:
That will teach me for not clicking through :doh:
Maybe Totti being out is an April fools joke by Spalletti.. :ninja:
AgentZero
01-04-2008, 06:30
TG no one is falling for that.
skullverine
01-04-2008, 09:13
Haha. I've seen a longer version of that report. It has this
"It was quite surreal, really," said Polizia Stradale officer Gianpaulo Luca, the first to arrive at the scene. "There was this lovely Porsche, with two stunned superstars inside, each covered head to toe in toilet roll and other items for female convenience."
:laugh:
:laugh:
April Fools? :ninja:
Now I know for a fact that definitely don't go to games.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
The fuck are you talking about?
Stella Artois
01-04-2008, 14:46
The fuck are you talking about?
What do you think? You're one of the worst clubs in the country for some of the things you chant.
You lot are happy to whinge about City or Liverpool fans making references to Munich, yet I've lost count of the number of Hillsbrough references I've heard in the past.
Not to mention the disgusting songs you sing about our manager.
Although to top it all off, the whiskey nosed cunt then had the cheek to moan about a bit of abuse at our ground. You couldn't make it up. :laugh:
Not to mention the disgusting songs you sing about our manager.
:laugh: those always makes me smile.
Phatmann
01-04-2008, 14:56
Predictions for tonight? Roma 1-1 Manchester United for me. A Vidic header to equalise after we go 1-0 down to a goal by some Roma player.
0-0. Got a feeling it might be quite tense. After all we'll have played Roma more times in the last year than any England League side!!!
Keyser Soze
01-04-2008, 15:01
Not to mention the disgusting songs you sing about our manager.
:laugh:
Hardly just United though, who doesn't sing that about Wenger though? It's not a spiteful song, doesn't compare to some of the racism/other chants mentioned.
Stella Artois
01-04-2008, 15:12
:laugh:
Hardly just United though, who doesn't sing that about Wenger though? It's not a spiteful song, doesn't compare to some of the racism/other chants mentioned.
Do you even know what is sung? Feel free to tell me.
Although you're right, singing anti-sematic songs about your manager and sending him death threats because he's Jewish is definitely worse.
Fick: simple things please simple minds.
Cannon ball
01-04-2008, 15:14
Better than the disgusting Adebayor song some of us have took to singing at recent matches. There used to be a time when United fans had the moral highground over our smalltime neighbours. I remember boasting that United fans would never sing the racist chants about Sun Ji Hai and chippies that city fans loved to sing. Today we have songs proclaiming South Koreans are 'dog eaters' and Park is our 'hong kong phooey on the wing'.... it's sad to see some of us have fallen to the level of Little Englander BNP humour.
You have never had any "moral highground", some of your lot do sickening stuff. Remember Rags fans bringing Turkey flags to Elland Road, and chanting about Marc Foe?
Fick: simple things please simple minds.
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/4025/simpleyb1.jpg
Yet you wouldn't think it to look at them would'ya?
Phatmann
01-04-2008, 15:20
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/4025/simpleyb1.jpg
Yet you wouldn't think it to look at them would'ya?
:laugh:
Let's be honest, no fans can take the "moral high ground." Maybe Fulham fans but more cos they hardly sing anything. :unsure:
Keyser Soze
01-04-2008, 15:43
To stay on topic, I predict a 1-1 tonight.Do you even know what is sung? Feel free to tell me.
Although you're right, singing anti-sematic songs about your manager and sending him death threats because he's Jewish is definitely worse.
Fick: simple things please simple minds.
My bad, I thought you were referring to the "Arsene Wenger is a pedophile" song. Feel free to tell me what you're on about though. I'm glad to say I've never heard anything of the like at Stamford Bridge, or any racism for that matter.
To be fair though, I think it's unfair to single out any team especially for this type of stuff as every club has it's fair share of idiots and it is a shame but it is usually the minority bringing this shite into the game, with exceptions.
What do you think? You're one of the worst clubs in the country for some of the things you chant.
You lot are happy to whinge about City or Liverpool fans making references to Munich, yet I've lost count of the number of Hillsbrough references I've heard in the past.
Not to mention the disgusting songs you sing about our manager.
Although to top it all off, the whiskey nosed cunt then had the cheek to moan about a bit of abuse at our ground. You couldn't make it up. :laugh:
'Hillsbrough references you've heard in the past'? You make a concious effort to go to United games in order to check the moral high ground of our fans do you?
I'm no prude. I've sang songs about individuals and teams, both living and dead to try and annoy, incite and most of all to affect the way the opposition is playing. But racism is different. So is singing about Hillsbrough as far as I'm concerned. There were certain ways United fans behaved which set them apart from other sets of supporters. Not only are our attendances uncomparable to any other club in England since WW2, we didn't boo our own team if things weren't going well like our smalltime neighbours, we didn't make racist jibes about opposition players, let alone our own team, we don't buy into foam hands, easy chants, or any of this happy clappy football supporting. We support the shirts no matter what league and how successful the club is. In the past few years this has slowly changed. As far as the racism and club culture goes, it's a sociological explanation more than anything else. Big cities, in particular Manchester, which was built on migration, tend to dismiss these smalltown BNP views embodied and accepted by those in provincial satelite towns which make up the bulk of city's suport. Places like Stockport, Didsbury,Macclesfield and Burnage.
I don't expect you to comprehend, nothing personal, firstly because you aren't a mancunian but also because I'm fairly sure you're a teenager and as a result you'll only be aware, at least at any meaningful level, of football in the past 10 or so years. For example when you say you've heard 'countless Hillsbrough chants' I guess you're reffering to watching games on TV in the last couple of years when it has become much more common, not the decades during and before your formative years before you developed such a fascination with commencing your diatribe against United.
And don't get me wrong, not all United fans are saints. We've had songs sung about Henry, Adebayor et al by minorities in the past. The difference is that these are/were shouted out by other reds and they were quickly shut the fuck up. The culture of United has always been an embodiment of the culture of Manchester. Integrated and celebrated, and United always reflected that.
Stella Artois
01-04-2008, 18:01
That has to be the biggest load of sanctimonious, arrogant bullshit I've ever had the misfortune to read.
Re-read that and if you still struggle to see why I think you're a cunt, I'll be amazed.
Oh, and you constantly go on, and on, and on, about being present at every game, so feel free to show us proof. A simple photograph of all your tickets from away games this season will do.
Cannon ball
01-04-2008, 18:06
I'm no prude. I've sang songs about individuals and teams, both living and dead to try and annoy, incite and most of all to affect the way the opposition is playing. But racism is different. So is singing about Hillsbrough as far as I'm concerned. There were certain ways United fans behaved which set them apart from other sets of supporters. Not only are our attendances uncomparable to any other club in England since WW2, we didn't boo our own team if things weren't going well like our smalltime neighbours, we didn't make racist jibes about opposition players, let alone our own team, we don't buy into foam hands, easy chants, or any of this happy clappy football supporting. We support the shirts no matter what league and how successful the club is. In the past few years this has slowly changed. As far as the racism and club culture goes, it's a sociological explanation more than anything else. Big cities, in particular Manchester, which was built on migration, tend to dismiss these smalltown BNP views embodied and accepted by those in provincial satelite towns which make up the bulk of city's suport. Places like Stockport, Didsbury,Macclesfield and Burnage.
I don't expect you to comprehend, nothing personal, firstly because you aren't a mancunian but also because I'm fairly sure you're a teenager and as a result you'll only be aware, at least at any meaningful level, of football in the past 10 or so years. For example when you say you've heard 'countless Hillsbrough chants' I guess you're reffering to watching games on TV in the last couple of years when it has become much more common, not the decades during and before your formative years before you developed such a fascination with commencing your diatribe against United.
And don't get me wrong, not all United fans are saints. We've had songs sung about Henry, Adebayor et al by minorities in the past. The difference is that these are/were shouted out by other reds and they were quickly shut the fuck up. The culture of United has always been an embodiment of the culture of Manchester. Integrated and celebrated, and United always reflected that.
Huge pile of Bull. And you wonder why so many people hate your team.
I like how you make up bollucks about City fans all being BNP supporters. City has the biggest non white support in the League, and our old location of Moss Side is a very mixed area. United fans have never booed their own team before ever. Sure. Oh and for the record, United arent based in Manchester. That bit I embolded was probably copied and pasted from the Official Man Yoo website, or a similar source.
Zoolander
01-04-2008, 20:25
Was that a fucking salmon on the pitch? What a jump?!
vanNistelrooy
01-04-2008, 20:45
Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie!
Oi oi oi!
Easily our best away win for a long time.
vanNistelrooy
01-04-2008, 21:41
About time we gave a decent performance in Europe (bar the Roma raping last season).
Scholes was awesome, but Rio was out of this world.
Phatmann
01-04-2008, 21:53
Park had a pretty solid game.:smug:
AgentZero
01-04-2008, 22:16
i really liked the way we approached the game. Concern on vidic, looks nasty.
vanNistelrooy
01-04-2008, 22:39
I doubt he'll be fit for the weekend. Not too fussed if he misses Roma game, as we should be fine without him.
Just hope he's back for the Arsenal game.
AgentZero
01-04-2008, 22:45
True not really fussed about boro, with Rio playing so well i think even pique can do a job well done.
Surprised at Park starting ahead of Giggs and Nani but he proved his selection.
vanNistelrooy
01-04-2008, 22:47
I'm always cautious over Bor :erm:
Would be nice to see Silvestre get a run out. He must be fit enough if SAF stuck him on the bench tonight.
Giggs wasn't 100% and Nani is injured.
Yeah, you never know what you will get from Boro.
Silvestre has played 3 or 4 full games for the reserves so must be close to fitness, could see him coming off the bench but Evra has been great lately so he should stay.
Very, very good result tonight. Park did a good job all night, was worried when we had O'Shea at centre back but he looked solid enough and Rio was a monster. I still think that Scholes and Carrick is our best centre midfield partnership, when we switched to 4-4-2 we looked much better and grabbed the second goal.
vanNistelrooy
01-04-2008, 22:59
As soon as I heard Totti wasn't playing and worries I had vanished. De Rossi looked the biggest threat and as he's more a defensive minded midfielder that shows how well we coped with their attack.
mufcsean
01-04-2008, 23:10
What a performance by Park, that is probably his best performance since he has been with us, really wasn't expecting to see him play let alone be one of the best out there. Also, did hear right, that was the first time he has started for us in the Champions League?
Ronaldo again, the quickness to get into the box and the jump were amazing, i just hope he can stay fit till the end of the season as he has took a bit of a battering the past few weeks.
Nice to see Rooney grab another goal after going so long without one, the commentators pointed out that it was his 75th goal for us which isn't a bad return for a 22 year old.
There were only 2 negatives about tonight, van der Sar's kicking was awful i think only one ended up with one of our players, the other was Anderson, didn't play well at all, gave away silly free kicks and once again his shooting was way off.
Other than that i'm extremely pleased, i really can't see us going out now and the prospect of Barca is just :dribble:
vanNistelrooy
01-04-2008, 23:15
I didn't find anything wrong with Edwins kicks. Anderson did have a poor game though.
Rooney has played like 180 odd games for us, so the return is ok. What I'd expect from someone who creates more than he scores.
Lord Shrimpeh
01-04-2008, 23:18
We approached the game in exactly the right manner and even though Roma dominated possession and we attacked a couple of times we still looked more dangerous than them. It was a mature performance.
Nifty1Pound50
01-04-2008, 23:18
I think Rio Ferdinand just proved why he's the England captain, and should be for the foreseeable future.
Absolute top-drawer performance, from someone who's always been capable, but had his reputation dogged by lapses of concentration earlier on in his career.
Since he stopped those happening, especially in Europe, he's been immense.
vanNistelrooy
01-04-2008, 23:20
I know, and I was once one of those who was always waiting for one of those lapses.
Like you said he's cut them out of his game, and is looking like on of the best defenders in Europe.
AgentZero
01-04-2008, 23:21
I really would like anderson to just hit the ball right and direct it on goal. Maybe take a page out of mickey carricks book of the low driving shots.
I can't remember the last time Ferdinand made a mistake this season. I've had my doubts about Rio being England captain but he has my support.
vanNistelrooy
01-04-2008, 23:26
Not sure about captain of England. Let him have a stint as captain of United for a while first.
So, everyone cheering on Arsenal tomorrow night? I know I am.
AgentZero
01-04-2008, 23:28
For shizzle...they have my blessing,. Hopefully it would be one of the final nails in the coffin for the bindippers season.
mufcsean
02-04-2008, 00:05
Indeed Arsenal ftw :cheer:
Keyser Soze
02-04-2008, 00:24
I'm cheering on United and Arsenal until we meet one of them tbh, as many games as you can possibly have please.
vanNistelrooy
02-04-2008, 00:26
I'm cheering Arsenal as I can't bare to watch Liverpool perform wank in the league and win the CL again, therefore claiming themselves the best team in the country.
:laugh: those always makes me smile.
:laugh:
Edit:
Re-read that and if you still struggle to see why I think you're a cunt, I'll be amazed.
Ah. :rolleyes:
Wonderful performance by Park. Versatile, hard working squad member & perhaps getting a little of the respect he's due.
Rio, good game. England captain, no. He still hasn't performed consistantly enough at world level to earn it for me.
O'Shea, performed well, no Vidic, but Roma were a little toothless without Totti's playmaking so it was no hardship.
The Red Baron, immense.
Ronaldo. Probably the best header i've seen in football since Andy Gray.
skullverine
02-04-2008, 09:45
Great result. Rio performance was absolute world class.
Let's hope Vidic's won't be out for too long
I like how you make up bollucks about City fans all being BNP supporters. City has the biggest non white support in the League, and our old location of Moss Side is a very mixed area. United fans have never booed their own team before ever. Sure. Oh and for the record, United arent based in Manchester. That bit I embolded was probably copied and pasted from the Official Man Yoo website, or a similar source.
I'm not sure where you got the idea that city had the biggest non-white support in the league, and again... having no idea how old you are I wonder if you remember the city of the 1980s when it was commonplace to wave inflatable bannanas at black opposition. Add to that the racist chants started against your own player, the 40 odd fans who have been arrested for racist chanting etc. Whilst I wouldn't go so far as to say city has a culture of racism, it certainly has done in the past. city had a decent black support in the early 80s which all but disappeared by the end of the decade.
There's more United fans than city fans in Manchester, and a large number of city's limited support comes from provincial satelite towns around Greater Manchester. Wherever the respective stadia are located, both of those statements are true.
Edit... the last part of my post? Copy it into a search engine if you think it's from a United site you mong.
Cannon ball
02-04-2008, 11:59
I'm not sure where you got the idea that city had the biggest non-white support in the league, and again... having no idea how old you are I wonder if you remember the city of the 1980s when it was commonplace to wave inflatable bannanas at black opposition. Add to that the racist chants started against your own player, the 40 odd fans who have been arrested for racist chanting etc. Whilst I wouldn't go so far as to say city has a culture of racism, it certainly has done in the past. city had a decent black support in the early 80s which all but disappeared by the end of the decade.
There's more United fans than city fans in Manchester, and a large number of city's limited support comes from provincial satelite towns around Greater Manchester. Wherever the respective stadia are located, both of those statements are true.
Edit... the last part of my post? Copy it into a search engine if you think it's from a United site you mong.
I suppose you're talking about Alex Williams. Williams mostly got stick of away supporters at Maine Road. Theres a history behind the inflatable bananas waved, and its not racist. Williams was, and still is a City hero.
In the late 1980s, City fans started a craze of bringing inflatable objects to matches, primarily oversized bananas. One explanation for the craze is that in a match against West Bromwich Albion chants from fans calling for the introduction of Imre Varadi as a substitute mutated into "Imre Banana". Terraces packed with inflatable-waving supporters became a frequent sight in the 1988–89 season as the craze spread to other clubs (inflatable fish were often seen at Grimsby Town), with the phenomenon reaching a peak at City's match at Stoke City on 26 December 1988, a match declared by fanzines as a fancy dress party.[24] In the 2006/2007 season, City's FA Cup run to the sixth round of the competition saw the re-emergence of the inflatables craze, with hundreds of yellow and blue bananas being brought to cup matches.
There. Nothing to do with racism.
City have won a Diversity award, so the club has a mixture of fans of fans from a variety of backgrounds. City's black support has vanished? Rubbish, I've seen lots of black City fans at Eastlands and at Maine Road.
Limited support? City are one of the most well supported clubs in Britain. Even when the club were in League One (the old division two) Maine Road's attendances were in the 30,000's. Old Trafford attendances dropped when United were relegated in the 70's.
AgentZero
02-04-2008, 12:10
bring your beef into another thread please.
City have won a Diversity award
Irellevant. If memory serves they actually paid for it. It is also "Diversity Champion" and relates mainly to the employment of homosexual workers.
Regardless of all this LostGalactico is right, there are better place for all this.
The Red Baron, immense.
Who are you referring to?
vanNistelrooy
02-04-2008, 13:30
Who are you referring to?
Dong :erm:
I suppose you're talking about Alex Williams. Williams mostly got stick of away supporters at Maine Road. Theres a history behind the inflatable bananas waved, and its not racist. Williams was, and still is a City hero.
There. Nothing to do with racism.
City have won a Diversity award, so the club has a mixture of fans of fans from a variety of backgrounds. City's black support has vanished? Rubbish, I've seen lots of black City fans at Eastlands and at Maine Road.
Limited support? City are one of the most well supported clubs in Britain. Even when the club were in League One (the old division two) Maine Road's attendances were in the 30,000's. Old Trafford attendances dropped when United were relegated in the 70's.Man Utd's attendances where awesome when they were relegated man, don't kid yourself.
City can't even fill out now as well.
greenegg
02-04-2008, 13:45
Man U when they travelled away in the 70s used to just take over away towns or Cities. Numbers were immense.
Who are you referring to?
Scholes. Aka The Red Baron, The Ginger Ninja etc...
Dong :erm:
:laugh: Nope, but i see where you're coming from...
Cannon ball
02-04-2008, 13:55
From what I've heard from family members around at the time, attendances did drop, maybe not significantly, but were not as high as they were.
I know City can't fill out Eastlands, unless it is an important game, but average attendances have certainly improved from last season. Costs don't help much either.
From what I've heard from family members around at the time, attendances did drop, maybe not significantly, but were not as high as they were.
I know City can't fill out Eastlands, unless it is an important game, but average attendances have certainly improved from last season. Costs don't help much either.Costs are high everywhere, yet you still don't sell out, which is poor iyam.
Man Utd's attendances are the highest average since the War.
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"Despite relegation, attendances at Old Trafford swelled during the 1974-75 season and United responded well, winning the Second Division and returning to the top flight."
Defending Manchester United, look what I've become.
Cannon ball
02-04-2008, 14:11
Maybe thats true.
On our attendances, they have improved this season, and with the progress being made, I'm sure they will improve next season.
Attendance improved with the signing of Sven & the lure of cash. It happens at all clubs. If Sven doesn't produce, number will fall. Thats football.
Stella Artois
02-04-2008, 14:23
I'm not sure where you got the idea that city had the biggest non-white support in the league, and again... having no idea how old you are I wonder if you remember the city of the 1980s when it was commonplace to wave inflatable bannanas at black opposition. Add to that the racist chants started against your own player, the 40 odd fans who have been arrested for racist chanting etc. Whilst I wouldn't go so far as to say city has a culture of racism, it certainly has done in the past. city had a decent black support in the early 80s which all but disappeared by the end of the decade.
There's more United fans than city fans in Manchester, and a large number of city's limited support comes from provincial satelite towns around Greater Manchester. Wherever the respective stadia are located, both of those statements are true.
Edit... the last part of my post? Copy it into a search engine if you think it's from a United site you mong.
I'm still waiting for the proof of all these games you supposedly go to.
Jonny, the support might have been high, but the majority of these were people who supported the club after Busby Babes accident, etc.
Plastics the lot of them.
Plastics the lot of them.
I assume you refer to the blue, seat shaped fans that appear weekly at the City of Manchester Stadium?
Cannon ball
02-04-2008, 14:30
I assume you refer to the blue, seat shaped fans that appear weekly at the City of Manchester Stadium?
No, I think he means the United "fans" who support the club in places that aren't remotly near Manchester, who jump on the bandwagon.
No, I think he means the United "fans" who support the club in places that aren't remotly near Manchester, who jump on the bandwagon.
And one hell of a bandwagon it is!
On a serious note, between ticket prices and the over reliance of corporate seating OT has lost something of it's old ambiance. I recall a derby game where my dad purloined some tickets from one of his suppliers. My mate & I were the only Utd fans in a sea of City & neutrals. Made for a shit experience.
vanNistelrooy
02-04-2008, 18:42
I tell you what, there weren't many spaces on the bandwagon I jumped on when we weren't winning a lot (a couple of cups I think) back in the 80s :rolleyes:
Keyser Soze
02-04-2008, 18:53
I tell you what, there weren't many spaces on the bandwagon I jumped on when we weren't winning a lot (a couple of cups I think) back in the 80s :rolleyes:
Haha, alright Grandad. ;) Wouldn't you have been, like, 5 years old back in the 80's?
vanNistelrooy
02-04-2008, 19:02
89 I would have been 6 ;) actually :) Still went to a couple of game, went to even more from 95 to 00.
Zoolander
02-04-2008, 21:08
I was bored so I remixed my Mr Glass picture of Dyer.
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/7871/photo06hirescopycopyfs2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
mufcsean
02-04-2008, 23:55
Any news on Vidic yet?
I tell you what, there weren't many spaces on the bandwagon I jumped on when we weren't winning a lot (a couple of cups I think) back in the 80s :rolleyes:A couple of cups. I'd kill for a couple of cups!
I tell you what, there weren't many spaces on the bandwagon I jumped on when we weren't winning a lot (a couple of cups I think) back in the 80s :rolleyes:
Part timer! My first vist was in the 70's...
Damn i feel old.
vanNistelrooy
03-04-2008, 08:46
lol, didn't you share the Inter-two-bob cup with a couple of teams a few years ago?
lol, didn't you share the Inter-two-bob cup with a couple of teams a few years ago?We won it yessum. But you know what I mean.
I'm still waiting for the proof of all these games you supposedly go to.
Jonny, the support might have been high, but the majority of these were people who supported the club after Busby Babes accident, etc.
Plastics the lot of them.My point still does stand though, my opinion is well documented on here at times about certain fans, but he was trying to make a point about Man Utd fans deserting the team when they went down, which as the stats clearly prove wasn't the case.
AgentZero
03-04-2008, 11:08
those statistics are fascinating i think there was only club post 80's that had below 15000 as seasonal average.
skullverine
03-04-2008, 14:31
Any news on Vidic yet?
out for 2-3 weeks from manutd.com
Not sure who will play with Rio for the next few weeks then. It will be one of Pique, Silvestre, O'Shea and maybe Brown with O'Shea switching to right back, personally if he's fit and ready I would go with Silvestre as he has the experience needed in a run-in. Needless to say though, the sooner Vidic is back the better.
Is it me or is Vidic incredibly average? He always seems to make a mistake whenever I watch him, and a bit out of place. Rio on the other hand seems more stable and better with the years.
Regard it as an opinion of someone who catches about 1 game every 3 weeks involving United.
We're on for our best ever defensive Premiership season so he must be doing something right. This includes a defence which Wes Brown has been a major part of. Rio is better though.
out for 2-3 weeks from manutd.com
Bad news. He's been bloody good this year.
As for replacement, i've never been a big fan of Silvestre in the centre. Don't feel his heading is up to scratch. I'd quite like to see O'shea or Pique tbh. Brown ought to stay wide as he can be prone to being pulled out of position.
I'm still waiting for the proof of all these games you supposedly go to.
Jonny, the support might have been high, but the majority of these were people who supported the club after Busby Babes accident, etc.
Plastics the lot of them.
Plastics? Your stupidity knows no bounds.
As for 'proof', even if I had a digital camera I wouldn't go to the trouble to post up pictures so some poster child for abortion can judge how much of a 'real fan' I am. Don't believe me? Fine. No mither. Debate the content of what I say as much as you like, but if you think I feel the need to prove my 'redness' to somebody I have and will never see in my life then you're delusional.
Guillermo
03-04-2008, 19:17
Bad news. He's been bloody good this year.
Good news in my eyes, as I was hearing reports this morning he'd be out for the rest of the season. This way he'll only miss Boro, Roma and Arsenal games.
Good news in my eyes, as I was hearing reports this morning he'd be out for the rest of the season. This way he'll only miss Boro, Roma and Arsenal games.
Fair enough for Borough & Roma, but i'd really like him in the back 4 for the Arsenal game. Adebayor is pretty mobile and we need people with good positional awareness to keep tabs on him.
vanNistelrooy
03-04-2008, 19:38
Rio should be able to take care of him.
I would hope so, but when Adebayor pulls wide i don't want Rio playing the sheep.
mufcsean
03-04-2008, 22:52
I was looking on the internet on my phone about Vidic, the title said United eased by Vidic fears, so i thought "oh he must be ok then". Read it and he's out for 3 weeks, gutted, his partnership with Rio has been unbelievable, conceded less than 15 goals all season together.
Viperized
03-04-2008, 23:26
So he'll miss the game against Arsenal.
Good news for us I suppose - Vidic + Rio is probably the best defensive partnership in the England League.
Vidic would be a big miss against Arsenal as I feel he's the best defender to compete with Adebayor in the air. I'm just glad he's out for 2 to 3 weeks rather than the rest of the season.
Dundon's
04-04-2008, 01:34
Big boost for us but I don't know it that game is going to be as important as we all thought it was going to be.
vanNistelrooy
05-04-2008, 19:19
Anyone else concerned about Boro tomorrow?
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