Manchester United

[skullverine]

Yep, especially that Boro usually cause United trouble when they're playing at home.

[Keyser Soze]

Knowing you lot at the moment though, you'll probably breeze through them 4-0. I don't know, this United side is unpredictable - but they don't look like slipping too much tbh.

[vanNistelrooy]

As long as they don't go 1-0 up. They usually make it difficult for us when they do.

Hopefully Silvestre comes in for Vidic, or Brown moves to CB with Hargreaves filling in at RB.

[Keyser Soze]

O'Shea looked perfectly capable at CB to be fair though. I'd have him in the defence - either at RB (with Brown in the centre) or CB.

[skullverine]

Not too sure about Silvestre though. I don't think that he can last 90 min at the moment.
We would probably see Pique coming in for Vidic.

[vanNistelrooy]

I'm still not 100% confident with O'Shea. Before he got injured, Silvestre was impressing me.

My god anyone but Pique.

[Rambo]

I too am slighty concerned against Boro.

I wouldn't mind seeing the back 4 we played for the majority of the match



My god anyone but Pique.

Pique isn't as bad as you think, he's had some good performances this season.

[vanNistelrooy]

For the reserves?

He just doesn't fill me with confidence.

[Zoolander]

Look at the "Have your say" section!

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/giles_smith/article3670392.ece

[vanNistelrooy]

lol

[Rambo]

For the reserves?

He just doesn't fill me with confidence.

Champions League, Roma being one of them. He's got talent and he's proved he can play at the top level.

[Hunter]

We always have a tough game against Boro, from the past 7 games against them, think we've won 3, they've won 3 and 1 has been a draw so it just shows how tight it history says it should be. However I've just got a funny feeling that we'll play them off the park, and cruise to a 3-1 victory.

[Jesus]

I'm always scared when we play Boro, though like Tom, I think we'll win 3-1.

Edit: Why isn't Gerrard on the diving list? Oh I forgot, English players don't dive.

lol, just seen it Jin.

Edit 2: At LostGalactico's post under, :laugh:.

[AgentZero]

Nev is travelling to boro which is good to see. Im giddy with excitement for the next Chelsea game.

EDIT:
Ronaldo stepover, one notes, has evolved way beyond its original form. It's now only a couple of hand movements short of a charleston. Soon, one assumes, it will include elements of the cha-cha, the Watusi and the Funky Gibbon.
:laugh:

[vanNistelrooy]

Will Gary...

a) get injured getting onto the coach
b) get injured getting off the coach
c) get injured whilst playing poker with teammates on the coach

Answers on a postcard.

[AgentZero]

i think i'll phone a friend thanx chief.

[vanNistelrooy]

That option is unavailable I'm afraid, as you have no friends.

Would you like to take a 33/66 or ask the idiots?

[AgentZero]

ask the idiots..Squad been released yet?

[vanNistelrooy]

van der Sar
O'Shea
Ferdinand
Brown
Evra
Ronaldo
Scholes
Carrick
Giggs
Tevez
Rooney

[AgentZero]

i would prefer oshea at centreback, last time he played fullback was against city which was frustrating to watch.

[vanNistelrooy]

O'Shea vs Downing :erm:

[AgentZero]

o'shea isnt a threat going forward unlike browneye

[nickpring]

Is Neville in the 16?

[vanNistelrooy]

Brown is playing at RB apparently.

Nope, neither is Silvestre.

[AgentZero]

yea, saf must like the way this crop is playing with each other...relieved at the scholes-carrick combo with tevez and rooney upfront.

[vanNistelrooy]

Tevez has been a bit rusty lately, possibly because he hasn't always started.

I've got a fiver on him to score, but as long as we win I couldn't care less if he doesn't. In fact, I'd quite happily give £5 for every game we have left this season if it means we win it.

[AgentZero]

id give more if we can get a convincing away win over the supposed 'easy' teams

[Zoolander]

Zing!! :smug:

[AgentZero]

up u get paddy...cmon.

[Sully]

Boro aren't playing too badly. Hopefuly they can get something out of the game

[Sully]

Alves!

[Zoolander]

Giggs looks lost.

Double post!

[-Rafa-]

Alves :w00t

[Guillermo]

I fucking hate Boro.

[vanNistelrooy]

Erm, penalty much?

[AgentZero]

gee boro are hard to watch, lots of long balls

[vanNistelrooy]

Well it seems to be working.

If only Nani was fit. Giggs is off the pace and seems to be making the wrong decision 90% of the time.

[AgentZero]

hmm i was just thinking that the deliveries of th elast 2 corners could of been better.

[-Rafa-]

ALVES !!! :w00t

[Viperized]

:o

[AgentZero]

typical bogey boro

[Guillermo]

"Who are ya" chants commence. Fuck off.

[Sully]

Ferdinands gone off limping. Not good news for you lot

[vanNistelrooy]

Not too bad considering Rio went off injured and we were 2-1 down.

vDS for MoTM.

[AgentZero]

"Who are ya" chants commence. Fuck off.
campione replies are in order

[vanNistelrooy]

Park was awesome when he came on.

If Rio can make it for the Arsenal game, I think we can say they are officially off the pace.

Chelski away to Everton two days after their CL game could prove vital.

[Rambo]

If Rio isn't fit for Sunday, Adebayor could have a field day.

I think Everton is our only hope of Chelsea dropping points before playing us.

[vanNistelrooy]

If we had won today, and Chelski lose Thursday I'd crack the bubbly already, but with these injuries, and two dropped points it is far far from settled.

Like I said, the Everton match is key.

[ThierryHenry14]

Whoever beats Man u will win the premiership..

[AgentZero]

]If we had won today, and Chelski lose Thursday I'd crack the bubbly already, but with these injuries, and two dropped points it is far far from settled.

Like I said, the Everton match is key.not sounding smug i raised that point few pages back ......oh what the heck..:smug:

[Keyser Soze]

Kind of dissapointed 'Boro didn't win after some of the chances they had - all hail Alves though. :happy: It is very open now, but we'll need Arsenal to win next week to stand a very good chance.

Great game to watch though. I was screaming at the t.v from the last 20 minutes to go - I thought it might have been one of them days.Whoever beats Man u will win the England League..
Wrong.

[AgentZero]

likewise we need mighty wigan of greater manchester to beat you lot.

[Joel]

Kind of dissapointed 'Boro didn't win after some of the chances they had - all hail Alves though. :happy: It is very open now, but we'll need Arsenal to win next week to stand a very good chance.

Yeah same here. And I feel kind of greedy thinking like that, but with them being in the lead and having that chance at the end, I can't help but feel a bit disappointed. Ah well, all I wanted this morning was them to drop at least two points, so I should just be grateful.

They still have a tough trip to Ewood Park too. If they are without Rio, they may have some trouble.

[vanNistelrooy]

ALVES !!! :w00t
Out of curiosity, why did you post this? I know it's hard to take, but Liverpool won't win the league for two reasons. One; you won't make up the point deficit and two; you're fucking shit.

I thought the Everton game was THIS Thursday :(

Hopefully Rio is ok :no:

[AgentZero]

thoughts on Giggs? Saw SAF get proper mad, red face and all when giggsy didnt bother to latch on to that clever chest by Park..summed up his performance to me, frustrating.

[vanNistelrooy]

Totally off the pace. How long is Nani out for? Even if he doesn't make the Arsenal game I say Park should get a run. His last couple of performances have more than deserved it.

[ThierryHenry14]

Is Vidic injured for the Arsenal game?

[vanNistelrooy]

We don't know. Most likely.

[AgentZero]

3 weeks, so yeh. Lets hope hes ready in time for Chelsea. Piques first touch...shaky.

[vanNistelrooy]

I warned you about Pique. Hopefully come next week Silvestre or Neville may be able to play some part.

If we don't win this league it will be an injustice IMO, considering the quality of football we've been playing. I don't know though, I've got a bad feeling about it all :(

[wrathchild_uk]

If Rio isn't fit for Sunday, Adebayor could have a field day.

I think Everton is our only hope of Chelsea dropping points before playing us.

You never know..Newcastle could get something against Chelsea as they've picked up abit of form.

Based on todays game i think we should have started with 4-5-1, it seems to suite utd more away from home and Tevez looked abit shite today anyway..

[Phatmann]

How was Gary O'Neil still on the pitch at the end of the match? :unsure:

Pretty disappointing result which makes the Arsenal game a must win now, as I can't see us getting anything from Stamford Bridge. Park has to start instead of Giggs in our next match.

[vanNistelrooy]

Tevez didn't do too bad, I didn't understand why he got subbed off but glad he did Park was superb.

Newcastle almost got a point at SB earlier in the season (and should have but for the most blatent offside goal of the season), so I understand your point. Just depends if we both get through to the CL semis, which we probably will, as we'll have to rotate players to keep everyone fresh as can be.

Would be funny if Everton could do us the favour, like they did last season :cool:

[wrathchild_uk]

Park has to start instead of Giggs in our next match.

Giggs just gives the ball away all the time now and always tries to be clever doing flicks and backheals that never seem to work out.. :no:

[AgentZero]

:laugh: thats like saying your dads too old to wear his cap backwards.
Giggsy's was the original fancy dan before ron

[Guillermo]

Looking at the run-in:

Man United
Arsenal (h) - DRAW
Blackburn (a) - WIN
Chelsea (a) - LOSS
West Ham (h) - WIN
Wigan (a) - WIN

Chelsea
Wigan (h) - WIN
Everton (a) - DRAW
Man United (h) - WIN
Newcastle (a) - DRAW
Bolton (h) - WIN

That's my first thought. Chelsea could easily beat Newcastle and Everton though, and we can easily slip up against Blackburn. Then again, there's every chance of a point at Stamford Bridge.

[Jonny2J]

We normally do well against Chelsea at home. They never beat us when Mourinho was in charge. But still.

[wrathchild_uk]

The last day could be a big one..i mean we go to Wigan where there pitch is shit and Chelsea play at home against Bolton who are just pure shit..

[-Rafa-]

Out of curiosity, why did you post this? I know it's hard to take, but Liverpool won't win the league for two reasons. One; you won't make up the point deficit and two; you're fucking shit.

I thought the Everton game was THIS Thursday :(

Hopefully Rio is ok :no:
Hit a nerve did I? Funny how you bring up Liverpool in this, just happy Boro took the lead, as I'd love you lot to choke it.

I don't care if we aren't in the title race this season, it has nothing to do with us, but you'll always bring up the point we're shit blah blah blah.

I ignore your shit posts like the one you just made.

[somegooner]

Looking at the run-in:

Man United
Arsenal (h) - DRAW
Blackburn (a) - WIN
Chelsea (a) - LOSS
West Ham (h) - WIN
Wigan (a) - WIN

Chelsea
Wigan (h) - WIN
Everton (a) - DRAW
Man United (h) - WIN
Newcastle (a) - DRAW
Bolton (h) - WIN

That's my first thought. Chelsea could easily beat Newcastle and Everton though, and we can easily slip up against Blackburn. Then again, there's every chance of a point at Stamford Bridge.

Given your recent record against them, this could make you drop points.

[vanNistelrooy]

I ignore your shit posts like the one you just made.
You ignore it by quoting and repling to it?

Nobber.

[Miggy]

Tunçay's turn at the death was sexy, shame he couldn't finish.

[Phil W.A.F.C]

I dont know about any of you United fans on here but i cant wait for the last day of the season. Dont worry to much though Bruce will do you a favor if it comes down to that game ;). Will be a tough one for you as are record at home aint to bad not lost in 5 games there and all of them were clean sheets :D. Role on the final day of the season :tongue:

[50!]

Chelsea will bottle it at Everton, of that I have no doubt.

As much as us neutrals would love to see a title decider at Chelsea, I don't think its going to happen.

[Dundon's]

UTD will drop points at Blackburn.

[vanNistelrooy]

We might be able to afford to after we beat you lot.

[skullverine]

I dont know about any of you United fans on here but i cant wait for the last day of the season. Dont worry to much though Bruce will do you a favor if it comes down to that game ;). Will be a tough one for you as are record at home aint to bad not lost in 5 games there and all of them were clean sheets :D. Role on the final day of the season :tongue:

If the title has to be decided at the JJB, I fucking hope that you're already safe from relegation.

Typical Boro performance, only turned up when they're playing the top 4.

Rio better not be out for a long time. :angry:

[Top Gun]

I think you just have to say fair play to Boro who looked good and could of won the game. We weren't up to much defensively and how Wes Brown can think he deserves £65k a week, I will never know. With Rio and Vidic out, Neville and Silvestre will have to be fast-tracked back into the first eleven as a defence including Brown, O'Shea and Pique doesn't fill me with confidence.

Still, if this position in the league was offered when we were 8 points behind Arsenal I would of taken it.

[Dundon's]

We might be able to afford to after we beat you lot.

Don't get too carried away with yourself fella, there's still 15 points to be won.

[somegooner]

I think you'll drop points against West Ham.

[wayne reep]

anyone got an original face edit for anderson at man utd for ps2 please?

[somegooner]

This isn't the place for that wayne. Put it in the editing thread.

[vanNistelrooy]

Don't get too carried away with yourself fella, there's still 15 points to be won.
Coming from the guy who has been saying he still thinks his club, who have won one game out of the last six, still has a shot at the title.

[Jonny2J]

Mwahahaha Rooney got twatted by me mate in the tunnel yesterday.

[vanNistelrooy]

That's funny because? I'd be inclined to say you're mate is a dick unless Rooney provoked him?

[Jonny2J]

That's funny because? I'd be inclined to say you're mate is a dick unless Rooney provoked him?The latter.

[vanNistelrooy]

I would like to say I'm surprised, but I'm really not.

What happened?

[Jonny2J]

I would like to say I'm surprised, but I'm really not.

What happened?Said mate goes over to shake his hand at the end of the game, Rooney's having none of it, saying he kicked him or something during the match. (Not like Rooney has never done that before or to sulk is it?)

Verbals go off walking down the tunnel as he's telling him to grow up, then Rooney starts shoving etc and booting off so gets one on him. Resulting in Fergie and Southgate and everyone else having to split it all up.

[vanNistelrooy]

Who kicked him in the match? That bit lost me?

So does your mate work there or something? Or with the press? Or just tresspassing? lol

[Jonny2J]

Who kicked him in the match? That bit lost me?

So does your mate work there or something? Or with the press? Or just tresspassing? lolMy mate is the left-back who Park sold an awesome dummy to when setting up the 2nd goal.

[greenegg]

His mate plays for Boro :mellow:

[vanNistelrooy]

Ohhhh, Taylor is it?

Haha, he got done by Park. Laugh at him for me, will you? Does your mate's hand still hurt from blocking Ronnie's shot? :P

Seriously though, Park has been looking good lately.

[wrathchild_uk]

UTD will drop points at Blackburn.

have you been to the future and purchased some kind of book that gives all the results for this current season or something?? :rolleyes:

[AgentZero]

I think you'll drop points against West Ham.

by that game the epl could already be in some teams bag. (it wil matter if god forbid we lose both games v Arsenal and Chelsea)

[mufcsean]

God damn it. (yesterday)

I read Ferdinand hasn't broke a bone, but how long is he out for?

Also, Totti is out of the game on Wednesday thankfully for our defence

[vanNistelrooy]

have you been to the future and purchased some kind of book that gives all the results for this current season or something?? :rolleyes:
Dundons is actually Biff.

[Jonny2J]

Dundons is actually Biff.Aye he's definitely a cock like.

[Dundon's]

Aye he's definitely a cock like.

Fuck yourself.

[vanNistelrooy]

Biff wasn't a cock!

What's a matter McFly...

[vanNistelrooy]

Rio could feature tomorrow!

Phew, my nerves has settled slightly.

[Phatmann]

That's good news. Either Gary Neville or Silvestre could start too apparently. Predictions for the United defensive line-up? (and for the match itself?)

[Guillermo]

Evra-Silvestre-Pique-Brown

With O'Shea and Ferdinand on the bench (Neville absent).

I think it will be a rather bland match, possibly because United may score early, basically killing the tie. Roma to equalise just before half time, 1-1 final score.

[vanNistelrooy]

I'm going for 1-1 too. Hopefully Park gets a start.

[AgentZero]

dang i was hoping the cl tie would of gone for 120 mins...thus tiring the gooners players..now they are demoralised time to capitalise

[vanNistelrooy]

After the 4-0 win in the FA Cup the commentator posed the question "What will this do to Arsenal's confidence?" - they've only won two games since that game I believe. Let's not let it be three, eh?

[AgentZero]

yeh leaking 4 goals in cup ties are a reoccuring theme.

[vanNistelrooy]

Flamini coming off injured hury Arsenal. Is a shame, because I wanted to see the fuckers dumped out on their asses.

[mufcsean]

Rio could feature :dribble:

I think it'll look at little something like this

-----------------------VDS-----------------------
----Brown------Pique----Ferdinand------Evra------
--------------------------------------------------
-------------Fletcher----------Carrick-------------
----------------------Anderson--------------------
---------Tevez--------Rooney-------Giggs----------

I think, that because we have the 2 goal lead and we have such a big game at the weekend, Ronaldo and Scholes will be rested, normally i'd say Rooney aswell but he is hardly ever rested, i also chose Pique ahead of O' Shea because Fergie was saying that he thought Pique was brilliant at the weekend, which was news to me i must say.

[Rambo]

I don't like the idea of risking Rio in match that more or less guarantees our passage into the last four and with an all important fixture with Arsenal to come at the end of the week.

[vanNistelrooy]

Isn't Fletcher injured?

[mufcsean]

Oh yes he might be actually. Stick Hargreaves there then

[Guillermo]

Isn't Fletcher injured?

It'll be lucky if we see him again this season.

I was hearing bizarre rumours this morning that Vidic will be back on Sunday :|

[AgentZero]

i wouldn't be surprised as vidic is a monster coming out the hill. I think he came back rather quickly after that dislocated shoulder, so why not a busted knee.

[vanNistelrooy]

Vidic wanted to carry on against Roma :/

Would be nice to see Vidic back for the Arsenal game, but hopefully home advantage gets us through that one and we can have him back for the game at Ewood Park.

Still gutted about tonight's result :(

[AgentZero]

Vidic wanted to carry on against Roma :/

Would be nice to see Vidic back for the Arsenal game, but hopefully home advantage gets us through that one and we can have him back for the game at Ewood Park.

Still gutted about tonight's result :(
as am i...i really wanted the gunenrs to go through for numerous reasons.

[Jesus]

Coming from the guy who has been saying he still thinks his club, who have won one game out of the last six, still has a shot at the title.

Like we thought Liverpool would go through.


I have a feeling Rio will play. :happy: :erm:

Predictions for tonight, lads?

[AgentZero]

dull game...perhaps 1-1 or even 1-2

[fick]

Should be 1-0, but it all depends on who Sir A puts in the back four...

[Ronaldo_is_fat]

as am i...i really wanted the gunenrs to go through for numerous reasons.

It is not only you. Obviously, nobody will wish to see another Chelsea-Liverpool clash.

[AgentZero]

my reasoning would be that Arsene would have to rest players for this weekend after the gruelling schedule...flamini injured is a bonus. And that i really do not want liverpudlians to assume this sort of god given right to 'dominate' Europe by featuring in potentially a 3rd final in 4 seasons, when they have been poor in the league.
Yeah those clashes are dull but i think Cousin Avvy's men now has enough bollocks about them to finish of liverpool should they turn up at the bridge playing like they did for the first 20 minutes yesterday.

EDIT:

Papers: Vucinic warns Ron
09/04/2008 10:44

We’ll kick you out of it, Ron
Angry Roma will target Cristiano Ronaldo tonight for his first-leg showboating. The Italian club want revenge after Ronaldo helped Manchester United to a 2-0 win in Rome last week. Striker Mirko Vucinic rapped: “He can obviously dribble but he takes it too far and we have told him that.” Ronaldo put United in the driving seat for tonight’s Champions League quarter-final return at Old Trafford. But Vucinic said: “We have to be angry after what happened last week. If we didn’t come here feeling angry it would be a waste of time.”
Sports Reporter, The Sun

Meanwhile, the Daily Mirror reports how the Ronaldo debate took an interesting turn yesterday when Roma manager Luciano Spalletti issued an apology to the Reds winger for comments made by his player David Pizarro following the first leg.

The same newspaper publishes Sir Alex Ferguson’s praise of Ronaldo’s recent “outstanding” form and the manager's dismissal of the idea that Paul Scholes might be handed the captain's armband tonight to mark his 100th European game.
fuck off vucinic...

[Joel]

I don't see how they could use such a title, when it has no quotes of Vucinic saying these things.

[muzza798]

united occasionally play good football. 90% of the time they get played off the pitch by everyone and then out of nowhere ronaldo will score from 5 yards out or a set piece (most of his goals) and then everyone will say how well they've done even though they have been appalingly poor the whole game. example everytime they have played liverpool liverpool have been by far the better team in every sence and have tonnes more chances but then man utd score a tevez 1 yarder and it sickens me to the bone that the team that will win the league hardly ever dominates a game or deserves to win. also against roma away man utd got absolutly played off the park and had next to nothing the hole game and they won 2-0 simply cos roma didnt take their chances and then the peeps have the nerve to say just cos man utd hung on by the skin of their teet the hole game they deserved to win it.

man utd are the only team in the world that has no die hard supporters and 70% of the crowed either sing the only song man utd know which is to sing their own team name over and over or that 70% of the crowed is aisan and cant speak english. man utd is the team peeps support for whom no nothing about football.

i am a player of my local aldershot team and know all there is to know about the tactics of football and i know enough to know that man utd are the luckiest team of any sport in the universe.

[Rambo]

united occasionally play good football. 90% of the time they get played off the pitch by everyone and then out of nowhere ronaldo will score from 5 yards out or a set piece (most of his goals) and then everyone will say how well they've done even though they have been appalingly poor the whole game. example everytime they have played liverpool liverpool have been by far the better team in every sence and have tonnes more chances but then man utd score a tevez 1 yarder and it sickens me to the bone that the team that will win the league hardly ever dominates a game or deserves to win. also against roma away man utd got absolutly played off the park and had next to nothing the hole game and they won 2-0 simply cos roma didnt take their chances and then the peeps have the nerve to say just cos man utd hung on by the skin of their teet the hole game they deserved to win it.

man utd are the only team in the world that has no die hard supporters and 70% of the crowed either sing the only song man utd know which is to sing their own team name over and over or that 70% of the crowed is aisan and cant speak english. man utd is the team peeps support for whom no nothing about football.

i am a player of my local aldershot team and know all there is to know about the tactics of football and i know enough to know that man utd are the luckiest team of any sport in the universe.

I stopped readinf after the first two lines.

[Zoolander]

united occasionally play good football. 90% of the time they get played off the pitch by everyone and then out of nowhere ronaldo will score from 5 yards out or a set piece (most of his goals) and then everyone will say how well they've done even though they have been appalingly poor the whole game. example everytime they have played liverpool liverpool have been by far the better team in every sence and have tonnes more chances but then man utd score a tevez 1 yarder and it sickens me to the bone that the team that will win the league hardly ever dominates a game or deserves to win. also against roma away man utd got absolutly played off the park and had next to nothing the hole game and they won 2-0 simply cos roma didnt take their chances and then the peeps have the nerve to say just cos man utd hung on by the skin of their teet the hole game they deserved to win it.

man utd are the only team in the world that has no die hard supporters and 70% of the crowed either sing the only song man utd know which is to sing their own team name over and over or that 70% of the crowed is aisan and cant speak english. man utd is the team peeps support for whom no nothing about football.

i am a player of my local aldershot team and know all there is to know about the tactics of football and i know enough to know that man utd are the luckiest team of any sport in the universe.

I am shocked no mention of 5 times is in this.

[Phil W.A.F.C]

united occasionally play good football. 90% of the time they get played off the pitch by everyone and then out of nowhere ronaldo will score from 5 yards out or a set piece (most of his goals) and then everyone will say how well they've done even though they have been appalingly poor the whole game. example everytime they have played liverpool liverpool have been by far the better team in every sence and have tonnes more chances but then man utd score a tevez 1 yarder and it sickens me to the bone that the team that will win the league hardly ever dominates a game or deserves to win. also against roma away man utd got absolutly played off the park and had next to nothing the hole game and they won 2-0 simply cos roma didnt take their chances and then the peeps have the nerve to say just cos man utd hung on by the skin of their teet the hole game they deserved to win it.

man utd are the only team in the world that has no die hard supporters and 70% of the crowed either sing the only song man utd know which is to sing their own team name over and over or that 70% of the crowed is aisan and cant speak english. man utd is the team peeps support for whom no nothing about football.

i am a player of my local aldershot team and know all there is to know about the tactics of football and i know enough to know that man utd are the luckiest team of any sport in the universe.

Welcome by the way but that has to be the biggest utter load of shit i have ever ever ever heard!. This guy seems abit bitter if you ask me.

[somegooner]

united occasionally play good football. 90% of the time they get played off the pitch by everyone and then out of nowhere ronaldo will score from 5 yards out or a set piece (most of his goals) and then everyone will say how well they've done even though they have been appalingly poor the whole game. example everytime they have played liverpool liverpool have been by far the better team in every sence and have tonnes more chances but then man utd score a tevez 1 yarder and it sickens me to the bone that the team that will win the league hardly ever dominates a game or deserves to win. also against roma away man utd got absolutly played off the park and had next to nothing the hole game and they won 2-0 simply cos roma didnt take their chances and then the peeps have the nerve to say just cos man utd hung on by the skin of their teet the hole game they deserved to win it.

man utd are the only team in the world that has no die hard supporters and 70% of the crowed either sing the only song man utd know which is to sing their own team name over and over or that 70% of the crowed is aisan and cant speak english. man utd is the team peeps support for whom no nothing about football.

i am a player of my local aldershot team and know all there is to know about the tactics of football and i know enough to know that man utd are the luckiest team of any sport in the universe.

So, who do you support?? Liverpool or City??

[Joel]

Interesting team selection. In my opinion, it sends out a message that Ferguson thinks the tie is dead.

[Rambo]

Van der Sar
Brown
Piqué
Ferdinand
Silvestre
Anderson
Hargreaves
Carrick
Park
Giggs
Tévez

I'm suprised Silvestre is playing but then again Evra is one yellow card away from a supension so I can understand why he isn't risked for tonight.

[vanNistelrooy]

Dunno what dickhead Andy Gray was on about, I thought it was a penalty :erm:

[Joel]

How the hell did they turn a De Rossi penalty miss, to a tribute of Steven Gerrard?! :huh:

[vanNistelrooy]

Because he's the bestest player to ever grace the land.

[Miggy]

I just saw the penalty. Oh dear.

[vanNistelrooy]

From the replay I saw I couldn't see Brown make clear contact with the ball. Then I saw it from one particular angle I did...THE REFEREE'S!

[Don Sweey]

Regarding the penalty: is it me or did Brown not touch the ball? Mancini took it away from him a split-second before. I knew De Rossi was going to miss. Too often does he go from superb play to a ridiculous moment...would have him at Milan any day though. Thought he might lose his cool after that and elbow someone in the face again.

Roma are playing too much one-touch in attack which is nice to watch but isn't going to get them goals.

[Yossi]

It looked to me as if Brown played Mancini's foot on to the ball, rather than actually winning it, so I can see why the referee gave it. No excuse for that dive by Mancini though; it was shocking. Nearly as bad as the penalty.

[Miggy]

Nice goal.

[vanNistelrooy]

Hargreaves crosses were spot on tonight.

[AgentZero]

eventual winners to be ascertained in this tie ITT (Barca - UTD)

[vanNistelrooy]

Not guaranteed. Liverpool's players will be much more fresh, as United, Chelski and Barca still have leagues to play for.

Holy shit, deja vu! :rolleyes:

[AgentZero]

last time we played barca in the semi....what happened?

[mufcsean]

Hargreaves was brilliant today, did he get Man of the Match?

[Zoolander]

Spanish reports claim Real Madrid have decided to offer Manchester United a world-record £100million for Cristiano Ronaldo.

It is believed Real told United last summer they would pay up to 120million euros for the Portuguese star.

The Red Devils made it quite clear they had no plans to sell Ronaldo - but the wonderful form of player, which has seen him score nearly 40 goals this season, will prompt a new bid.

Real have made little secret of their desire to lure Ronaldo to the Spanish capital and now La Sexta is claiming that an incredible £100million bid is imminent.

La Sexta - who have the rights to La Liga television coverage in Spain, are said to have close ties with high-ranking Real officials, from where the news on the possible bid have emanated.

However, it is also being reported that despite the huge bid, Real are not expecting United to accept the deal.

The current world record for a footballer is already held by Real, after they £46million to Juventus for Zinedine Zidane in 2001.

Recent speculation intensified after it was reported in Spain that Real's sporting director Predrag Mijatovic met with Ronaldo's agent Jorge Mendes in London and Rome in recent weeks.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_3404583,00.html

:laugh:

[wrathchild_uk]

united occasionally play good football. 90% of the time they get played off the pitch by everyone and then out of nowhere ronaldo will score from 5 yards out or a set piece (most of his goals) and then everyone will say how well they've done even though they have been appalingly poor the whole game. example everytime they have played liverpool liverpool have been by far the better team in every sence and have tonnes more chances but then man utd score a tevez 1 yarder and it sickens me to the bone that the team that will win the league hardly ever dominates a game or deserves to win. also against roma away man utd got absolutly played off the park and had next to nothing the hole game and they won 2-0 simply cos roma didnt take their chances and then the peeps have the nerve to say just cos man utd hung on by the skin of their teet the hole game they deserved to win it.

man utd are the only team in the world that has no die hard supporters and 70% of the crowed either sing the only song man utd know which is to sing their own team name over and over or that 70% of the crowed is aisan and cant speak english. man utd is the team peeps support for whom no nothing about football.

i am a player of my local aldershot team and know all there is to know about the tactics of football and i know enough to know that man utd are the luckiest team of any sport in the universe.

What a prick!

[vanNistelrooy]

Oi, don't resort to calling Statto names like that!

[fick]

Should be 1-0, but it all depends on who Sir A puts in the back four...

:smug:

Hargreaves was brilliant today, did he get Man of the Match?

Dunno, but his workrate and quality of passing/crossing was the best i've seen from him. He was immense last night.

Credit must also go to Park & Tevez for tireless running and Silvestre for looking solid on his return (i was glad to see see him at LB though and not CB). Lovely passing move, great cross and sublime header to seal a good win. Who said we can't win without Ronny & Rooney? Must admit that Roma were sub-par defensively though...

Useless twat award goes to Anderson who did fuck all apart from one shot. I don't think i've seen anyone that lazy at OT since Veron.

Nice to see Neville back on the pitch, albeit for only 10 mins. Good respose from the crowd too.

[Jesus]

Useless twat award goes to Anderson who did fuck all apart from one shot. I don't think i've seen anyone that lazy at OT since Veron.

That's harsh, considering how much he normally does for the team, though he could still be doing a bit more if he tried.

[fick]

That's harsh, considering how much he normally does for the team, though he could still be doing a bit more if he tried.

My comments are all based on last nights performance only. Anderson is a good player with lots of potential. However, anyone who doesn't think he was a lazy twat last night must not have watched the match.

[AgentZero]

muzza798 for cunt of the year ... that post just infuriated me~i need some chai latte

[Phatmann]

My comments are all based on last nights performance only. Anderson is a good player with lots of potential. However, anyone who doesn't think he was a lazy twat last night must not have watched the match.
I hadn't really thought about it, though that was probably because I'd forgotten that he was on the pitch. :mellow: Hargreaves was very impressive last night and I thought Silvestre looked excellent for a player who hasn't played first team for a long time. I've not always been a big fan of Silvestre, but when he's at left-back he tends to play well (compared to his performances at centre back.) It's great to have him back as we've been without a left-footed left-back to provide cover for Evra.

By the way, how great has Van Der Sar been for us? His decision making and kicking is probably the best I've ever seen from a keeper. He's not a bad shot stopper either.

Predictions for Arsenal on the weekend? I wouldn't be surprised if us and Chelsea both dropped points.

[Lord Shrimpeh]

I personally think Hargreaves should be first team instead of Carrick. Carrick does bugger all despite what people say and Hargreaves works his socks off for the team and has great delivery from set pieces and crosses.

I think we'll draw with Arsenal and Chelsea will win. It's squeeky bum time! I still think we'll win the league though. Chelsea will drop points somewhere but it's unlikely to be Wigan at home, as much as I love the pie-eaters. I actually think we'll beat them at home, we'll be up for it, we're good at smashing records (Arsenal unbeaten run), Chelsea will get nervous and Grant will fuck something up.

[Phatmann]

I think you're being a little harsh on Carrick there. His passing is usually excellent and he works hard for the team. Before last night I hadn't been too impressed with Hargreaves' recent performances and I can't agree that Hargreaves should start ahead of Carrick. Some games Hargreaves looks a world class defensive midfielder, and on other occasions looks like a headless chicken. Anyway, I think there's a place for both in the first team with a midfield trio of Carrick, Scholes and Hargreaves, with Rooney, Ronaldo and Tevez up top.

[Top Gun]

Park has been class in the past few games, he's really stepped up. Silvestre looked very good considering his injury and I would go with him at centre-back on the weekend if Vidic isn't playing.

How great was it to see Neville back. :cool:

EDIT: I'm with Phat here, Hargreaves had a month earlier in the season where he looked like the best player on the park most matches but he has been pretty hit and miss the rest of the season, mainly down to small injuries.

[Phatmann]

Park has been class in the past few games, he's really stepped up. Silvestre looked very good considering his injury and I would go with him at centre-back on the weekend if Vidic isn't playing.

How great was it to see Neville back. :cool:
I would not be happy to have Silvestre at centre-back. I'd probably prefer Brown there to be honest.

[fick]

I hadn't really thought about it, though that was probably because I'd forgotten that he was on the pitch. :mellow:

Easily done eh! Good performance marking the centre circle though...

Predictions for Arsenal on the weekend? I wouldn't be surprised if us and Chelsea both dropped points.

Should beat Arsenal 2-1. Going for Adebayor or Diaby to open the scoring, Ronaldo equaliser just before half time, with Ronaldo scoring from a dubious pen late in the second half.

Edit: As per my earlier post, Silvestre LB only. His heading is not 100%. Pique, O'Shea, Brown - in that order.

As for Chelskum... can't see the piemen getting close. Easy win.

[Top Gun]

I would not be happy to have Silvestre at centre-back. I'd probably prefer Brown there to be honest.

The only reason I would go with Silvestre is because he has more experience, which could help against Adebayor. I really don't care though as there is barely any difference between the two, I think Pique would get destroyed by Adebayor though.

[Phatmann]

The only reason I would go with Silvestre is because he has more experience, which could help against Adebayor. I really don't care though as there is barely any difference between the two, I think Pique would get destroyed by Adebayor though.
I agree that Pique would be the wrong choice against Arsenal, but I have a bad feeling that Fergie will pick him as he won't want to rush Silvestre back and will give him the odd start here and there for the rest of the season. I also can't see Neville starting, and Brown will most likely stay at right back. So the centre-back partnership will most probably be either Ferdinand-Pique or Ferdinand-O'Shea. :(

[Top Gun]

O'Shea I wouldn't mind as he likes a battle but I fear the Pique vs Adebayor would be like Senderos vs Drogba all over again.

Tbh I would be satisfied with a defence of,

Brown, Rio, Silvestre/O'Shea, Evra. Would be great if Vidic was fit to play though.

[Jesus]

My comments are all based on last nights performance only. Anderson is a good player with lots of potential. However, anyone who doesn't think he was a lazy twat last night must not have watched the match.

I don't think i've seen anyone that lazy at OT since Veron.

I based my post on this, it looked as if you meant all the time. :huh:


I told you guys, Rio might play!

Pique still has much to learn.

Edit: I'm with Top Gun there. ;)

[Guillermo]

How are people feeling towards the game as we draw closer? I honestly do not have a clue which way the match will go, so another draw is my first thoughts. I want Ronaldo to bring his A game, but if anyone does it's more likely to be Rooney. We pretty much NEED to win this.

[Phatmann]

It's one of the few times that I'm not that nervous before a match with Arsenal, and that worries me. :huh: The trouble is that a draw isn't really good enough as it'll mean we have to basically win every other match, including Chelsea away. I'm hoping that the absence of Flamini will give us the edge, but if Silvestre starts at centre back, I can see a silly mistake costing us the game. Draw is what I say, but that's more because I can't decide rather than I think the match will finish 0-0, 1-1, etc. :mellow:

[Top Gun]

I'm pretty much the same as Phat, I'm (weirdly) quite confident. I feel we might just have the edge as they have Flamini out and even though we are missing Vidic, Adebayor isn't playing at his best at the moment. But even so it could quite easily go either way.

I would love to see this team out tomorrow as a 4-4-2,

VDS
Brown
Rio
Silvestre
Evra
Ronaldo
Scholes
Carrick
Nani
Tevez
Rooney

But I'm expecting 4-5-1/4-3-3 with Rooney, Ronaldo and Giggs (I would rather it was Nani) switching as the front three. If we're going to play that formation I would rather go with Carrick, Scholes and Hargreaves and give Nani, Ronaldo and Rooney freedom to do what they do best.

Like I said though I'm expecting Giggs to play even though he has not been up to much recently. If I was pushed to predict a result I would go with a 2-1 win for us.

EDIT: Just read that Tevez is unlikely to play as he is knackered and Hargreaves might be having an operation on his knee in the summer to try and sort out the problem he has had with it for the past few seasons.

[vanNistelrooy]

Is Nani even fit?

I'm nervous, like I usually am going into big games.

I'll take a 1-0, but my nerves won't, so 2-0 would make me very happy.

[AgentZero]

never confident coming into games against arsenal...

[skullverine]

I read that Sir Alex plans to rest Hargreaves and Tevez, so I'm quite nervous for this game.

[vanNistelrooy]

Why rest them? Our next game after this one isn't for 6 days?

[skullverine]

Why rest them? Our next game after this one isn't for 6 days?

Something about Hargreaves knee and Tevez burning out, which I think makes them feel harder to play 2 games in a week.

It could be bullshit though, as it was taken from dailymail.

http://http//www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=55 9249&in_page_id=1779&ct=5

[mufcsean]

Not confident at all :no:

[AgentZero]

mind games by sir alex? and in fact he will play one of them most likely carlitos

[vanNistelrooy]

PIQUE!?

The advantage we had from them playing Senderos has just been lost.

EDIT: Senderos isn't even playing!? Lehmann starts too? My already low confidence in this game has just got even lower :(

[Phatmann]

PIQUE!?

The advantage we had from them playing Senderos has just been lost.

EDIT: Senderos isn't even playing!? Lehmann starts too? My already low confidence in this game has just got even lower :(
I just saw the teams. :no: Hopefully Song at centre back will prove to be a terrible decision by Wenger and Pique a masterstroke from Fergie. I don't think this will be the case but we can all but hope.

[Guillermo]

What a fucking free-kick :huh:

[Lord Shrimpeh]

Brilliant game. Arsenal were unlucky although Ferdinand was immense again today, despite him and Brown producing awesome shots to try and score own goals! Rooney needs to sort out his shooting though, it's been the one area he's lacked this season. Hopefully that wraps up the league for us but you can never be too sure. I think we'll get a draw at the bridge.

[vanNistelrooy]

OWEN HARGREAVES, WOHOA, OWEN HARGREAVES, WOHOA, HE COMES FROM CANADA, OR ENGLAND, OR GERMANY, OR SOMEWHERE, HE SCORES A STUNNING GOAL, WOHOA...

I need more time to work on it. Needless to say I'm over the fucking moon :D

[Zoolander]

Brown was fucking shit again.

[Shaun-irish]

Why does everyone hate brown hes not that bad.

[Top Gun]

I would love to find out how much ground Rooney covered today, even at the end he was sprinting around.

Rio was an absolute monster again.

[vanNistelrooy]

Every chance Arsenal had when it was 2-1 was because Brown let his marker go, or on one ocassion tried scoring himself. Everytime we put five or six passes together it would come to him and he would lose the ball.

I love Rooney in games like this. You know he'll always give 110%.

Rio? Well, my view on him has changed completely. Best defender in the league IMO.

[Lord Shrimpeh]

We need a new right back this summer no doubt.

And to give Hargreaves a medal, he's fast becoming one of my favourite players.

[Shaun-irish]

I didnt see the game because my sky sports dissapeared,but in fairness to brown he preformed well earlier in his carear whenever he wasent injured.

[Zoolander]

Every chance Arsenal had when it was 2-1 was because Brown let his marker go, or on one ocassion tried scoring himself. Everytime we put five or six passes together it would come to him and he would lose the ball.

I love Rooney in games like this. You know he'll always give 110%.

Rio? Well, my view on him has changed completely. Best defender in the league IMO.

See his clearance straight to Fabregas? :laugh:

[vanNistelrooy]

Ohhh that's ok then. He played well 5 years ago, so he warrants his place in the team :rolleyes:

See his clearance straight to Fabregas? :laugh:
Which one, you'll have to tell me in which minute as there was so many!

[Keyser Soze]

How comes Ronaldo was only on the pitch for the penalty? Didn't see him much before and after it. :erm: Strange.

[vanNistelrooy]

How comes Ronaldo was only on the pitch for the penalty? Didn't see him much before and after it. :erm: Strange.
He didn't need to play the rest of the game apparently, as he's been so awesome this season ;)

[Zoolander]

I'm sure that will go through his mind as he picks up his world player of the year.

[Lord Shrimpeh]

How comes Ronaldo was only on the pitch for the penalty? Didn't see him much before and after it. :erm: Strange.

He can hardly be expected to dribble through defenses every week, especially Arsenals. True sometimes he tried and failed but he looked threatening when he could run at them. I wish people would leave off him not being a big game player, he plays in a way that can't be replicated in this kind of game but as he showed against Roma he can deliver when it matters.

[Shaun-irish]

Ohhh that's ok then. He played well 5 years ago, so he warrants his place in the team :rolleyes:


Which one, you'll have to tell me in which minute as there was so many!

Ye hes been with the team for his whole carear he deserves to be played.

[Don Sweey]

I'm sure that will go through his mind as he picks up his world player of the year.

Yep. In the absence of anyone else doing anything at all memorable in the weakest line-up I've ever known.

[vanNistelrooy]

He can hardly be expected to dribble through defenses every week, especially Arsenals. True sometimes he tried and failed but he looked threatening when he could run at them. I wish people would leave off him not being a big game player, he plays in a way that can't be replicated in this kind of game but as he showed against Roma he can deliver when it matters.
Don't get yourself worked up, it's not Ronnie's fault he can't perform in the big games like old Frank Lampard :rolleyes:

[Zoolander]

Yep. In the absence of anyone else doing anything at all memorable in the weakest line-up I've ever known.

Gerrard has been nominated apparently. :laugh:

[Don Sweey]

Gerrard has been nominated apparently. :laugh:

Fucks sake :no:

[wrathchild_uk]

The last word with Andy Gray... *turns tv off*

[Top Gun]

He can hardly be expected to dribble through defenses every week, especially Arsenals. True sometimes he tried and failed but he looked threatening when he could run at them. I wish people would leave off him not being a big game player, he plays in a way that can't be replicated in this kind of game but as he showed against Roma he can deliver when it matters.

Exactly.

He has goals against Arsenal, Liverpool, Roma, Lyon, Sporting and Everton he must be a lucky guy as apparantly he never turns up...

[vanNistelrooy]

Gerrard has been nominated apparently. :laugh:
Anyone see him throw himself about today? I know Ronnie dives, and I can admit that (as much as I hate him doing it), but Gerrard gets the golden treatment from the pundits as per usual.

[Keyser Soze]

He can hardly be expected to dribble through defenses every week, especially Arsenals. True sometimes he tried and failed but he looked threatening when he could run at them. I wish people would leave off him not being a big game player, he plays in a way that can't be replicated in this kind of game but as he showed against Roma he can deliver when it matters.
No-one expects him to, but he was invisible once again - apart from his amazing step-overs in the the corner on the 94th minute (which by the way, I'd have liked Hoyte to take a chunk out of him then). Rooney's not expected to "dribble through defenses every week", but he still consistently delivers against the big boys in the Premiership.

And if Zissou is insinuating that Lamps isn't a big-game player, then he's obviously letting his hate for Chelsea get in the way of common sense/knowledge. Ah well, ignorance is bliss eh?

[Zoolander]

Speaking of world players of the year, who worth a carrot is in contention?

[Barry]

No-one expects him to, but he was invisible once again - apart from his amazing step-overs in the the corner on the 94th minute (which by the way, I'd have liked Hoyte to take a chunk out of him then). Rooney's not expected to "dribble through defenses every week", but he still consistently delivers against the big boys in the England League.

And if Zissou is insinuating that Lamps isn't a big-game player, then he's obviously letting his hate for Chelsea get in the way of common sense/knowledge. Ah well, ignorance is bliss eh?

T'is true. I don't expect him to be fantastic every week (that would be unrealistic and stupid), but he so rarely turns up when the real heat is on (bar that particular game where Roma forgot to defend).

[vanNistelrooy]

And if Zissou is insinuating that Lamps isn't a big-game player, then he's obviously letting his hate for Chelsea get in the way of common sense/knowledge. Ah well, ignorance is bliss eh?
For someone who plays in a position where you see the ball as much as Lampard does, he fails to impress me in the big games. And like Ronnie, needs a penalty or a tap in to become noticed.

I'm just getting slightly fed up with people picking on the one player all the time. Other players today didn't turn up but they don't get a mention. Gallas for example, has been poor this season (well at least the second half of it) but people still hail him as a "class defender". Same goes for Toure, who has gone down hill.

[Lord Shrimpeh]

No-one expects him to, but he was invisible once again - apart from his amazing step-overs in the the corner on the 94th minute (which by the way, I'd have liked Hoyte to take a chunk out of him then). Rooney's not expected to "dribble through defenses every week", but he still consistently delivers against the big boys in the England League.

And if Zissou is insinuating that Lamps isn't a big-game player, then he's obviously letting his hate for Chelsea get in the way of common sense/knowledge. Ah well, ignorance is bliss eh?

Rooney's a different type of player to Ronaldo and as much as I love him he doesn't always deliver the goals (like Ronaldo does) instead he delivers attacking threat, teamwork, great passing etc. That's not what Ronnie is about so it's not a comparision. We don't need two rooneys... (although on second thought that would be awesome) By the way, that penalty was an awesome one under pressure.

[vanNistelrooy]

I don't quite understand what Lehmann was complaining about when the ref said it had to be retaken? :erm:

That Lehmann is one strange fellow! What was wrong with Aluminium anyway? Wasn't even on the bench?

[Lord Shrimpeh]

Ye hes been with the team for his whole carear he deserves to be played.

So we should still be playing Phil Neville and Nicky Butt? No thanks. Brown is decent but not as good as the rest of the team. I'd keep him but just cos he's been knocking around a while doesn't give him a god given right to play. Would you ship Rooney and Ronaldo out for not being here their whole career?

[mufcsean]

Ferdinand was fucking brilliant again, apart from leaving the ball for Adebayor mind.

I thought Scholes had a very off game, constantly giving the ball away which isn't like him at all, some good came out of that though as Anderson was terrific when he came on.

VDS was great again today, the two best saves were from our own defenders efforts though :lol:

Rooney is just amazing, never stopped running and working the defenders, gutted he didn't score though.

Zizzou, Almunia injured his wrist apparently.

[Keyser Soze]

I'm just getting slightly fed up with people picking on the one player all the time. Other players today didn't turn up but they don't get a mention. Gallas for example, has been poor this season (well at least the second half of it) but people still hail him as a "class defender". Same goes for Toure, who has gone down hill.
Sorry, it's naive of me to think the "best player of the world" should show up in big games.
Rooney's a different type of player to Ronaldo and as much as I love him he doesn't always deliver the goals (like Ronaldo does) instead he delivers attacking threat, teamwork, great passing etc. That's not what Ronnie is about so it's not a comparision. We don't need two rooneys... (although on second thought that would be awesome) By the way, that penalty was an awesome one under pressure.
Way to COMPLETELY miss the point. Although I agree, the penalty was beautiful.

[Barry]

For someone who plays in a position where you see the ball as much as Lampard does, he fails to impress me in the big games. And like Ronnie, needs a penalty or a tap in to become noticed.

I'm just getting slightly fed up with people picking on the one player all the time. Other players today didn't turn up but they don't get a mention. Gallas for example, has been poor this season (well at least the second half of it) but people still hail him as a "class defender". Same goes for Toure, who has gone down hill.

Of course it is unfair to single out Ronaldo for criticism, but a player with his capacities should turn up once in a while in the big games. I would agree that all the other games are just as important if we are talking about the league but it would be a testament to his abilities. He can do better, if he's any kind of sportsman he knows it.

Van Persie didn't turn up either.

On the other hand Ferdinand was excellent and Van der Sar had some good saves. He'll win us the title this summer :mellow:

[Wan]

I don't quite understand what Lehmann was complaining about when the ref said it had to be retaken? :erm:

That Lehmann is one strange fellow! What was wrong with Aluminium anyway? Wasn't even on the bench?

Aluminium had a knock and dented.

[Barry]

Speaking of world players of the year, who worth a carrot is in contention?

It'll probably depend on the European Championships. If Torres gets Spain far he'll probably take it, although Ronaldo will obviously have an advantage before the tournament as he's score more.

[vanNistelrooy]

Still, if he's turning up in 70-75% of our games this season I'm not going to argue. Think about other players in his position and think how well they do over the season, let alone in big games?

Like I've said a lot lately, Rio has improved so so much. Seems to have got rid of that complacency. Edwin, well. He's saved us so many points since he joined the club, it's funny.

[Keyser Soze]

Still, if he's turning up in 70-75% of our games this season I'm not going to argue. Think about other players in his position and think how well they do over the season, let alone in big games?

Stop using that argument. Other players in his position aren't being hailed the best in the world. No-one's debating that he's not class, I just find it hard to swallow the best player in the world rarely shows up to big games.

[vanNistelrooy]

The thing is Ronaldo not turning up in big games has been something that's being thrown around since he joined, way before he was hailed as "world class".

At the end of the day he scored one and helped his team to a 2-1 win, I'm not gonna argue with that.

[Top Gun]

I couldn't give a shit if he's the best player in the world. Our record against the big teams is amazing so if he doesn't turn up we must be at our best when playing with 10 players. It's pretty blatent he gets targeted by the big teams and while they do that, it gives the rest of the team more space, him just being there causes problems for the opposition.

He's playing for Man Utd and I wouldn't swap him for any other player on the planet, that's all I care about.

[wrathchild_uk]

Can't really complain considering all the goals he's scored as a winger, besides even when he "doesnt turn up" he still scores anyway..

[AgentZero]

How comes Ronaldo was only on the pitch for the penalty? Didn't see him much before and after it. :erm: Strange.
ah the jokes are even more subtle...my answer would probably be burnout after 38 goals in the season..

EDIT: and the title is 'Best player in the world' over 12 months..not just the odd handful of games against big teams. And i beleive its also fair to say the amount of attention the defence gives him is a testament to his attacking threat.

[Usul]

Ronaldo will have his chance to really show his worth, in the Camp Nou.
Gallas for example, has been poor this season (well at least the second half of it) but people still hail him as a "class defender".
I think Gallas more than proved he is a class defender, when he was forced to play as left back, and managed to excel in that position, when he's not even a lefty.

[Dragonfly]

Of course he is a good defender. A short-term dip in form doesn't suddenly make him anything less.

[Rambo]

Hargreaves's free kick was stunning, no keeper would've saved that imo. Hopefully he gets a run of starts come the end of the season, he has been left on the bench too many times for my liking.

Evra also impressed me today, as always his attacking play was good but he also defended well. We need the same performance against Barca, he's our hope of stopping Messi.

[vanNistelrooy]

Erm, we didn't actually play that well?

I hope we play much better than that against Barca. Especially Scholes and Carrick.

[Rambo]

Erm, we didn't actually play that well?

I hope we play much better than that against Barca. Especially Scholes and Carrick.

I never said we did :mellow:, I was referring to Evra's performance.

[Zoolander]

At the start Evra was worrying me because he was bombing forward & leaving space at the back.

[vanNistelrooy]

Ahhhh.

Still pushes forward too much without the urgency of getting back.

[Usul]

We need the same performance against Barca, he's our hope of stopping Messi.
No one can stop Messi. :smug:

[mufcsean]

Hopefully his injury will come back as i don't have faith in Evra at all, despite his good performance today

[Rambo]

True and he joggs back rather than sprinting which is annoying.

I'm going to be doing some serious praying this week, hopefully my prayers are answered.

No one can stop Messi. :smug:

Unfortunately you're right, but there's a first time for everything :smug:

[Usul]

Hopefully his injury will come back as i don't have faith in Evra at all, despite his good performance today
Scared, are we? :ninja:

How dare you wish him harm. The match won't be nearly as exciting, without him.

[Yossi]

Evra has really impressed me this season.

[mufcsean]

Scared, are we? :ninja:

How dare you wish him harm. The match won't be nearly as exciting, without him.

Unusually for me yes, i am scared, despite the shit run your on and the injuries you have and have had, it is just like us to fuck up.

We did it last year against Milan, also we are always the team who players find form against, like Alves for Boro the other week and i can see Henry doing the same.

[Usul]

Unusually for me yes, i am scared, despite the shit run your on and the injuries you have and have had, it is just like us to fuck up.
I also get the comforting feeling that our players will have a good game.

Though on paper, i think you lot have the upper hand. You are more solid defensively.
We did it last year against Milan, also we are always the team who players find form against, like Alves for Boro the other week and i can see Henry doing the same.
Henry should be the least of your worries.

[mufcsean]

Henry always decides he wants to play well against us, he is a cunt like that

[PESFan92]

Just out of interest:

Who would you(Man Utd Fans) have rather played in the Semi's?

Real Madrid
Barcelona

I haven't been following La Liga as i used to, but im thinking Barcelona as Real Madrid are "running away with the title":erm:

[AgentZero]

not afraid of barca they may attack but their defence are a shambles.

[Wan]

As Valdes performance against Recreativo was poor.

[somegooner]

Hargreaves's free kick was stunning, no keeper would've saved that imo. Hopefully he gets a run of starts come the end of the season, he has been left on the bench too many times for my liking.

Evra also impressed me today, as always his attacking play was good but he also defended well. We need the same performance against Barca, he's our hope of stopping Messi.

Well, I would put his good performance down to be playing against Eboué. We all know the difference between Messi and Eboué.

[Top Gun]

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/5904/fabretwatls5.jpg

Bit disrespectful.

Evra he has been one of the most consistant performers this season, his position is guaranteed every game. I can remember worrying when Heinze left, but now I realise it was a great move.

I see Rio, Vidic, VDS, Ronaldo, Scholes, Rooney and Evra as the players who are definitely in the starting eleven of our best side, at the moment we have the right back, centre midfield, left midfield and striker positions up for grabs. Hopefully Neville will make the right back position his own again, Hargreaves and Carrick can battle it out for the other centre midfield position, Nani should be taking over from Giggs in the next season or so and Tevez is there for the striker but I would like to see another come in and Saha leave.

[fick]

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/5904/fabretwatls5.jpg

Bit disrespectful.



Certainly is. Okay, I can understand his dissapontment, but hey, it happens.

On the whole we were lucky. Had Adebayor actaully managed to make good contact with any of his efforts (barring the use of his arm which was certainly a good contact!!) then I think the game would've been over by half time. As it was, it was a better 2nd half with a much improved performance by Anderson after last weeks debacle.

Apart from the pen & a little showboating at the end Ronaldo was nigh on useless. Hargreves on the other hand was a monster again! Another well taken free kick.

Looking forward to the game at Sandford Bridge now, especially if the title is sealed there.

As for Barca... well, gonna be tough, especially the first leg. Got my fingers crossed that with Puyol missing we should be good enough to get at least one away goal.

[skullverine]

Yeah, we were very lucky that Adebayor finishing was not clinical. I thought the game would be over had Van der Sar did not make a save on Rio's almost own goal.

[BarnDoor]

also we are always the team who players find form against, like Alves for Boro the other week and i can see Henry doing the same.

What kind of wank is that?!? Name one other player who has found form against fucking Manchester United of all teams.

[PESFan92]

What kind of wank is that?!? Name one other player who has found form against fucking Manchester United of all teams.


Good point.

[AgentZero]

that cesc picture is burning me up inside, sour grapes much?

[Joel]

that cesc picture is burning me up inside, sour grapes much?

Why? It's not like it was your shirt :erm:

You should be happy to see that picture, rather than him celebrating.

Whose shirt is it by the way?

[skullverine]

Most likely Rooney's

[PESFan92]

Maybe Ronaldo

[Top Gun]

Rooney's. He should of kept it, it's not like he's getting much else from this season.

[Joel]

Rooney's. He should of kept it, it's not like he's getting much else from this season.

:laugh: (I laugh, but we could end up empty handed too.)

I agree he shouldn't have thrown it away, as it is disrespectful. But for it to be burning someone inside, is over the top. I doubt Rooney would give a shit if he saw the picture.

[BarnDoor]

Fabregas could have wanked into the thing and wiped his arse with it, and still he'd be showing it more respect than most would give it.

[PESFan92]

Yeah, all he cares about is the title, he wont be fussed by Csec throwing his Man Utd shirt, on the ground of Old Trafford. If anything it makes him look better because a Man Utd shirt doesn't belong in the hands of a Arsenal player

[AgentZero]

Why? It's not like it was your shirt :erm:

You should be happy to see that picture, rather than him celebrating.

Whose shirt is it by the way?
Yeah i like what lead him to doing it, but i feel that its not a very sporting gesture.

[BarnDoor]

Well if it was Rooney's shirt he probably threw it on the ground with the intent of covering the Old Trafford pitch with it later in case it rained.

And, lets not forget, this was the same Rooney who threw down the black armband in memory of Emlyn Hughes' wretched life during that England friendly in Spain. Not that a give a shit mind, as he was a Scouser and therefore obviously a cunt.

[Lord Shrimpeh]

Yeah i like what lead him to doing it, but i feel that its not a very sporting gesture.

I agree, he could at least have thrown it in the crowd. You'd get a fair penny on ebay for it. I bet the groundsman is doing that right now :p

[Sully]

I guess congratulations are in order...

[Phatmann]

http://itn.co.uk/news/story97979596cae601e7fbe79e35c 7cbef23.jpg

My hero.

[Joel]

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/4595/4650637yi3.jpg

[Rambo]

My prayers were answered, there truly is a god.